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Speaker 1: John You, and power Lines International Woman of Mystery Lucretia.
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Speaker 2: I'm back in the US. I'm back in the.
Speaker 3: Chair for this podcast because when I let Lucretian John
Speaker 3: all on their own, they just run a mock and
Speaker 3: so I'm gonna bring order back to this podcast. I
Speaker 3: have got my Lefroy twenty five because I've been drinking
Speaker 3: acavit and Dutch jin geneva jenee vera however you pronounce
Speaker 3: it uh, And so I'm glad to be back.
Speaker 2: How are you John? How are you? Lucretia? What are
Speaker 2: you drinking? How are you feeling?
Speaker 4: I'm feeling joy. I'm feeling joy because, as we all know,
Speaker 4: Kamalama ding Dong visited my state. Not only did she
Speaker 4: visit my state, she visited the town where my best
Speaker 4: friend lives.
Speaker 3: And right, well, I thought, right, I mean so right,
Speaker 3: I mean she was in your hood, and now John,
Speaker 3: she's like literally across the street.
Speaker 4: From you, and she was it was five o'clock Pacific
Speaker 4: where when she was in Douglas. So she got on
Speaker 4: a quick ass airplane and flew to Fairmont and got
Speaker 4: a helicopter. I mean flew to San Francisco and got
Speaker 4: a helicopter to the Fairmont. Because I've barely had one
Speaker 4: drink since her I kmitted more since her speet.
Speaker 2: That's not enough.
Speaker 5: And when she's in San Francisco, she mixes with the
Speaker 5: people by barricading herself inside the Fairmont Hotel at the
Speaker 5: top of what is deservedly called knob Hill, where all
Speaker 5: the snobs live. And you can't get a close off
Speaker 5: all the streets around this gigantic hotel with police and
Speaker 5: sniffer dogs and everything. All I want to do is
Speaker 5: go hang around at the University Club across the street.
Speaker 5: Are a little old, run down. It's so run down
Speaker 5: old that Winston Churchill would look at home, look at
Speaker 5: home here.
Speaker 2: Oh, I used to go to the Universe.
Speaker 3: This is thirty years ago now, John, But I used
Speaker 3: to go have lunch with William Rusher at the University
Speaker 3: Club and smoke.
Speaker 5: Cigars, which yeah they because yeah, people still smoke cigars
Speaker 5: here drink they have excellent bourbon and Scotch selection. If
Speaker 5: any loyal listeners who can identify Lucretia by voice, which
Speaker 5: has happened to me only once in the freaking Flyer
Speaker 5: Lounge and Frankfurt with a weird guy from Norway. But
Speaker 5: if anybody wants that can do that, I will offer
Speaker 5: them as much bourbon and Scotch as they can drink
Speaker 5: on my tab at the University Club in one night.
Speaker 4: Actually it's good. I won't go into why now. If
Speaker 4: they have even the tiniest, slightest detective skills, it should
Speaker 4: be very very very easy to figure out if you
Speaker 4: don't already know who I am. All of our listeners
Speaker 4: are very smart. They knew who I am, and I'm
Speaker 4: okay with that. It's just plausible deniability when I get
Speaker 4: called in front of the provost and you know, blah
Speaker 4: blah blah. Anyway, let me talk for just a moment
Speaker 4: about my So you're talking about you know, Kam Lama
Speaker 4: ding dong.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but just one sentence, Lucretia, you should take
Speaker 3: a bow or we give you a prize because commentary magazine,
Speaker 3: and you know, you're not always a huge fan of
Speaker 3: that gang there. They're a podcast this week used Kami
Speaker 3: Lama ding Dong as their title.
Speaker 2: So you get the prize and royalties, and.
Speaker 5: They get that. They give full credit in citation to
Speaker 5: Lucretia they did. I'm okay with that. Oh see, that's
Speaker 5: the kind of conduct we expect from the people a
Speaker 5: commentary exactly.
Speaker 4: But I'm okay with it because you know, I'm not
Speaker 4: a selfish person. I share my joy with the world.
Speaker 4: I'm also very joyful about so I really spend an
Speaker 4: extraordinary amount of time in Douglas. It is a it
Speaker 4: is a border town.
Speaker 5: It is now.
Speaker 4: It used to be a huge mining town, copper mining town,
Speaker 4: and the place is still you know, but it's now,
Speaker 4: of course, a human trafficking town. That's its and they
Speaker 4: passed through. It's got one of the second largest border
Speaker 4: crossing in Arizona, I believe it is, and it's about
Speaker 4: to be made bigger. That was a big deal. But
Speaker 4: here's the point. Douglas is a small town and it's
Speaker 4: a poor town. It's a very poor, mostly Mexican immigrant town.
Speaker 4: There's not any there's not a lot of wealth there
Speaker 4: anymore at all, and it doesn't have any large venues.
Speaker 4: So my understanding, I cannot confirm this absolutely reliably, but
Speaker 4: my understanding is that she went to Coache's Community College
Speaker 4: has a campus in Douglas and was at the theater.
Speaker 4: The theater holds one hundred and forty persons max. And
Speaker 4: the interesting thing was, if you watched her speech li
Speaker 4: I watched it on Fox, there was only one camera.
Speaker 4: You know, the troll what's his name, Mark Kelly spoke
Speaker 4: and but the camera they only ever trained one camera
Speaker 4: on any of the speakers up at the front, and
Speaker 4: there's you know, a teleprompter. Her speech was a teleprompter speech.
Speaker 4: And my thought was did they actually force Fox News
Speaker 4: before they would let them in that venue or did
Speaker 4: Fox get their their film from someone else that not
Speaker 4: to look at the crowd, I mean, they were very loud.
Speaker 4: The crowd was very loud, but not loud because there
Speaker 4: were literally thousands of people speaking out. They were just
Speaker 4: loud mouthed people, you know, very excited and joyful about
Speaker 4: being there with the troll and Kamala and Ding Dong.
Speaker 4: So anyway, that was my first comment about it. She
Speaker 4: was more articulate because she had a teleprompter and she
Speaker 4: sounded like, except for a few comments, she sounded like
Speaker 4: she could be Trump. Quite frankly. She talked about, you know,
Speaker 4: that it was important to close the border to refugees
Speaker 4: except at border crossings. It was important to stop fentanyl.
Speaker 4: She bragged about how she shut down cartels in California
Speaker 4: operating in San Francisco. I'm sure you guys remember that
Speaker 4: when she shut down the fentanyl trade and the cartels
Speaker 4: in San Francisco when she was Attorney general. Excuse me,
Speaker 4: it was just lie after lie after lie. Other than
Speaker 4: she wanted a path for dreamers. It's about the only
Speaker 4: honest thing she said. And of course then she turned
Speaker 4: to Trump, and you know, you want to ask if
Speaker 4: you've got all these great ideas for how we're going
Speaker 4: to close the border and make, you know, take away
Speaker 4: all these families that are suffering from the effects of
Speaker 4: illegal immigration and fentanyl and guns, and tell them why
Speaker 4: isn't she doing it herself? Because in case she didn't forget,
Speaker 4: she could go back to the White House and start
Speaker 4: doing it right away. But no she can't, because you
Speaker 4: know why, it's Trump's fault. And you know why it's
Speaker 4: Trump's fault because somehow, even though Trump is not in
Speaker 4: any position of power in the legislature or otherwise, he
Speaker 4: stopped the bipartisan immigration reform bill, which is what every
Speaker 4: stupid Democratic politician from Arizona says every time the subject
Speaker 4: comes up, and they have to make an answer for
Speaker 4: their pathetic excuse for policies only on immigration anyway. So
Speaker 4: I want to know, how is it that she being
Speaker 4: part of the administration and this was such a bipartisan
Speaker 4: bill and all these conservatives even wanted it. She said,
Speaker 4: all these the most conservative people in the Congress wanted
Speaker 4: this by partisan reform bill, but Trump stopped it. Do
Speaker 4: you guys know how that happened?
Speaker 2: No, I remember hearing all that that was all nonsense,
Speaker 2: And okay, you're back. You froze up for a second there, Lucretia.
Speaker 2: But yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: But my theme for the week, by the way, is
Speaker 3: Israel strikes, but camel of bombs. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: a couple of catastrophic interviews. We saw that, and I
Speaker 3: don't think we need to do all on that for
Speaker 3: too much.
Speaker 4: I don't think I think we should holistically look at
Speaker 4: how she holistically addressed all of the holistic problems of
Speaker 4: this country and how we holistically can bring our aspirations
Speaker 4: and our dreams together so that we all holistically can
Speaker 4: find the American dream.
Speaker 2: Well, you just took my new sign out for this episode.
Speaker 4: But you can still do it.
Speaker 2: Well, Audio, I'm going to add being inspired, because that's
Speaker 2: the other thing. We need to inspire people so we
Speaker 2: can be inspired. That was a rather alright, sol.
Speaker 4: Because the spirit of inspiration will cause us to be
Speaker 4: inspired so that we can dream the dreams that inspire
Speaker 4: us to dream.
Speaker 2: You know, I thought, by the way, John, a little
Speaker 2: bit of a sidebarb, but not entirely.
Speaker 3: I heard you talking last week how you once taught
Speaker 3: briefly here for a month at the Free Universe of Amsterdam,
Speaker 3: and say, my impression of Amsterdam from being there a
Speaker 3: week was they need they need a certain statute. We
Speaker 3: can't mention here because of the unbelievable amount of marijuana smoke.
Speaker 5: Right, you did not tell what you're talking about that's
Speaker 5: not governed by the Clean Air Act.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it should be, and then that should be.
Speaker 3: They need they need OSHA at least, because you know,
Speaker 3: all the the buildings are just incredible safety nightmares, the
Speaker 3: stairways and stuff. And then finally, you know, I noticed
Speaker 3: that the bicycle riders are out of control in Amsterdam
Speaker 3: and none of them were helmets.
Speaker 2: You know, in California helmets are mandatory, as we know,
Speaker 2: and in probably other places in any way.
Speaker 5: Did you notice here was one interesting thing about the bicycles,
Speaker 5: which I fear is going to happen to all of
Speaker 5: us with the rise and crime in our in our cities.
Speaker 5: Because you notice almost all the bicycles in Amsterdam where ugly, old,
Speaker 5: beat up bicycles. That's because anyone who has a nice
Speaker 5: bicycle has it immediately stolen. So the idea in the Dutchess,
Speaker 5: just have a terrible bicycle and like blended in with
Speaker 5: all the other ugly, terrible bicycles and no one will attack,
Speaker 5: you know, choose yours and steal that. That's what's gonna
Speaker 5: happen to us in these inner cities these days. I mean,
Speaker 5: like with the rise to crime in places like San Francisco.
Speaker 5: You know, I've seen recently the comeback from the seventies,
Speaker 5: signs in people's car saying this car is unlocked, right,
Speaker 5: please don't break the glass and you can take anything
Speaker 5: you can find in it because crime was so bad
Speaker 5: back in the seventies, remember.
Speaker 2: Right, right, Yeah, I do remember that. Unfortunately.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a very quick break here for
Speaker 3: a message from a sponsor, and then I'll bring up
Speaker 3: another topic for the week that is one that's divided us.
Speaker 3: So after this, So I think I didn't prepare you
Speaker 3: guys for this, but I think the other interesting story
Speaker 3: of the week, and I said, it's something that has
Speaker 3: divided us a bit in for the last year and
Speaker 3: a half or more longer is Zelenski came to the
Speaker 3: US and I think had it to disastrous visit because
Speaker 3: he essentially, I don't know if he was foolish or
Speaker 3: it was on purpose, but he essentially lent himself to
Speaker 3: be an adjunct to the Democratic campaign for president by
Speaker 3: going to Pennsylvania and appearing with all the Democratic and
Speaker 3: by the way, giving an interview to The New Yorker
Speaker 3: where he criticized Trump and attacked JD. Vance directly. What
Speaker 3: a foolish thing to do.
Speaker 4: And then I guess they should prosecute him.
Speaker 2: Steve Well, I you know somebody you know it's it's here.
Speaker 4: Sounds like more of election interference than Trump signing a
Speaker 4: couple of.
Speaker 2: Checks or or calling Linsky on the phone.
Speaker 3: And he did lately have a meeting with Trump, and
Speaker 3: Trump immediately released the text the Lensky scent that made
Speaker 3: him look like a total supplicant.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, I mean, what what John?
Speaker 3: I mean you you've generally been in favor of our
Speaker 3: policy of uh of supporting Ukraine, and you know we've
Speaker 3: argued with you about that from different directions.
Speaker 2: But what say you now? That seems to be a
Speaker 2: catastrophic blow during his part.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's a mistake for foreign leaders to
Speaker 5: try to manipulate our domestic politics and their advantage. Although
Speaker 5: people say that Yahu does that, and if he does
Speaker 5: do it, he does it I think successfully. But I
Speaker 5: think I think Zelenski made a major mistake by trying
Speaker 5: to in some way interfere with our elections or try
Speaker 5: it now. Obviously, I think a lot of you know,
Speaker 5: other countries have their hopes for who might win our election,
Speaker 5: like bagging Minds a twenty twenty that guy in Brazil, Bolsonaro,
Speaker 5: he wanted Trump to win because a very similar outlook,
Speaker 5: very similar of support. They're both conservative populous, and Zelenski's
Speaker 5: an idiot if he doesn't realize that there's a fifty
Speaker 5: to fifty chance at least that Trump's going to win,
Speaker 5: and he's placing his all his bets on you know, Harris,
Speaker 5: what a mistake. There's a terrible mistake. But that doesn't
Speaker 5: take away from whether it's strategically a good idea to
Speaker 5: op Russian from winning in Ukraine despite the inadequacies and
Speaker 5: incompetence of the Ukrainians and US.
Speaker 4: Can I ask an honest question, how does anybody in
Speaker 4: this day and age, And this is not referring to you, John,
Speaker 4: because you've never been guilty of this, but how does
Speaker 4: one actually demand a cease fire from Israel ah and
Speaker 4: not demand a ceasefire from Ukraine?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean I agree. I mean I think
Speaker 5: people saying there should be a ceasefire in Israel are crazy.
Speaker 5: By the way, We're not a breaking news show, but
Speaker 5: there is breaking news right now.
Speaker 2: It appears.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's reports apparently coming out of the Middle
Speaker 5: East now that Israel killed the head of Hezbola Justine. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was going to ask you if you which is true?
Speaker 5: So apparently, well, I just went and looked, and so
Speaker 5: apparently Israeli sources in Israel and Israeli media are starting
Speaker 5: to report this. So it sounds like it might come
Speaker 5: out in American press like within we know, well, well,
Speaker 5: all these rallies did is they just targeted with their
Speaker 5: missiles where they saw ten pagers exploded once last time.
Speaker 5: That must mean where the head of the leader is.
Speaker 5: Well that's a big that's a big deal for you know,
Speaker 5: there's not going to be any cease fire now in
Speaker 5: the millies with Israel. I mean, if you're Israel, right,
Speaker 5: you should press the advantage now and wipe out the
Speaker 5: rest of the Hezbolah leadership. You already used the pagers
Speaker 5: to you know, get into you know, destroy the communications
Speaker 5: network and kill a lot of the top leadership. They
Speaker 5: just killed the head of Hesbela. They killed the military
Speaker 5: military leader of Hesbola last week. I think this is
Speaker 5: the time if you were there, they should press the
Speaker 5: advantage now. The last thing they should do is listen
Speaker 5: to any kind of leads from the Biden administration to
Speaker 5: stop I heard it.
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say I heard that hes blow
Speaker 4: is put on a adds on LinkedIn forzation no there.
Speaker 2: Your question is one that's been on my mind too,
Speaker 2: is this is but I.
Speaker 4: Don't mean it to be Steven merely what I mean.
Speaker 2: But the LinkedIn answer or no no actually is a joke.
Speaker 2: No no, I I know I'm right with you on this.
Speaker 3: Is that this exposes, if we needed it again, the
Speaker 3: hypocrisy of you know, the Biden administration and our foreign policy.
Speaker 4: Lite just stupidity. Let's let's give them a little bit
Speaker 4: of credit for being absolutely abjectly stupid.
Speaker 3: Well, you can be both stupid and malicious or mendation
Speaker 3: at the same time. Right, embrace the power of Anne
Speaker 3: because you're demanding a cease fire from Israel, not just
Speaker 3: for gose of but now for Hesbola. And of course
Speaker 3: the real reason is they're panicked that an escalating war
Speaker 3: we might get involved. But I think also they're really
Speaker 3: worried about the political fallout for the Harris campaign. But
Speaker 3: you'll notice that when Biden went on the View, or
Speaker 3: maybe you did notice, because I'll bet you watch Biden
Speaker 3: on the View.
Speaker 4: But I but I did get a lot of responses
Speaker 4: to my tweet that said Biden's going on the View,
Speaker 4: so that for once he could be the smartest person
Speaker 4: in the room.
Speaker 3: Well, Biden was wearing a flag pin that was the
Speaker 3: American flag and the Ukrainian flag, and I thought, okay, uh,
Speaker 3: when is he has he ever worn an American flag
Speaker 3: and an Israeli flag or any Democrats wearing except for
Speaker 3: maybe Fetterman wearing an American flag in an Israeli flag.
Speaker 3: After all, what Israel done here in the last two weeks.
Speaker 3: They've killed a lot of people that we've had a
Speaker 3: bounty on. I mean, they killed the guy who was
Speaker 3: behind the bombing of the marine barracks forty years ago.
Speaker 4: I think I think Biden should send him a check
Speaker 4: for the seven million dollars bounty.
Speaker 5: And the second thing just took Just give them some
Speaker 5: give them some Howard rund bombs.
Speaker 3: And just to round off this about Zelensky's blunder and
Speaker 3: you know Trump's meeting, you know, Trump has actually although
Speaker 3: Trump has said some things like and this week you said,
Speaker 3: by the way, you know, Zelensky's blunder led Trump to
Speaker 3: say Ukraine is lost.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I don't know if Trump thinks that or not, but
Speaker 3: up to this point, Trump has actually maintained a fairly
Speaker 3: discreete silence about the Ukraine business.
Speaker 2: He has fair right. And the point is, and I
Speaker 2: think what's behind all that is is Trump.
Speaker 3: Assume Trump wins, the current appropriations of money in the
Speaker 3: Ukraine runs out. Who knows if Trump has some idea
Speaker 3: of pulling up, booting and scaring.
Speaker 2: The crap, I don't know.
Speaker 3: The point is I don't think Trump wants to be
Speaker 3: the person who is blamed for losing Ukraine.
Speaker 2: I think there's a possibility that Trump would want to
Speaker 2: find some way.
Speaker 3: To back up Ukraine if he can't he and our
Speaker 3: European allies can't broke or some kind of ceasefire and solution.
Speaker 3: But when Zelensky comes and says I'm I'm for Harris, Well,
Speaker 3: that kind of gives Trump a free pass to say
Speaker 3: screw you.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, what does lose Ukraine actually mean?
Speaker 4: And the reason I say that, Steve is I think
Speaker 4: that in this particular case, losing Ukraine a negotiated settlement
Speaker 4: where any territory is lost for the Biden administration is
Speaker 4: a disaster. However, losing some of the territory that probably
Speaker 4: rightfully belongs to Russia anyway in a negotiated settlement Russian
Speaker 4: speaking territories and so on. That's a different story for Trump, right,
Speaker 4: That's a totally different story for Trump. And a promise
Speaker 4: that Ukraine will never ever join NATO. He can do that,
Speaker 4: and I think that that he can actually negotiate a
Speaker 4: settlement that the Biden administration just simply can't get away with.
Speaker 4: And I'm not even being my usual snarky self against
Speaker 4: a Biden administration. I mean, it's just what they've painted
Speaker 4: themselves into in this particular case. So my only point
Speaker 4: is the options for Trump are more open than they
Speaker 4: are for the Biden administration at this point, in part
Speaker 4: because of what you said, but also in part because
Speaker 4: it's one thing to have a negotiated settlement and all
Speaker 4: those lives lost and billions wasted on both sides, if
Speaker 4: you just kind of go with the status quo. It's
Speaker 4: another thing if you say, Okay, well this is the
Speaker 4: deal and my previous the previous administration really screwed this up.
Speaker 4: We got to take things away they are and this
Speaker 4: is what we're going to do. That's my thought on it.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that makes any sense.
Speaker 2: But John, I'll give you the last word on this
Speaker 2: before we press on. If you want a last time.
Speaker 5: Actually, you know, I mean, Lukrutia made us start out
Speaker 5: with a good point, which is trying to reveal the
Speaker 5: hypocrisy what's going on in Ukraine versus Israel. But actually
Speaker 5: it got me thinking there there is a commonality in it,
Speaker 5: which is in both cases, the Biden administration shrinks from
Speaker 5: the bully in the neighborhood, whether it's with Russia, you know,
Speaker 5: not letting Ukraine pursue the war across the order, or
Speaker 5: with Iran letting Iran have billions of dollars in revenue
Speaker 5: from oil sales and then trying to restrain Israel because
Speaker 5: they're afraid that Israel will escalate it and draw Iran
Speaker 5: into a war. But in both cases it's a Biden
Speaker 5: administration being spineless before either Russia or before Iran. They're
Speaker 5: so afraid of these allies of ours, Ukraine or Israel
Speaker 5: escalating things that they're actually I mean, that's that is
Speaker 5: the commonality, which I think explains why our foreign policy
Speaker 5: is such a mess. And you know, this is one
Speaker 5: where I don't think Harris is going to do much better,
Speaker 5: like at least Trump I think he you know, I
Speaker 5: think foreign policy was far more successful under him than
Speaker 5: under Biden and Harris, even though Biden and Harris are
Speaker 5: the ones who are kind of supported by and are
Speaker 5: favored by the foreign policy elite in Washingtons.
Speaker 4: We won't even go into how all those foreign policy
Speaker 4: elite are are itching for war with a rant. I'll
Speaker 4: just leave that aside. Oh, I agree with you, John,
Speaker 4: but I also think that the further point that needs
Speaker 4: to be made is that not only is their weakness
Speaker 4: and their spinelessness an explanation for what's happening right now
Speaker 4: and the demand the weird that what seems to be
Speaker 4: the inequitable demand for a ceasefire. Your your explanation is
Speaker 4: absolutely right, but it's also the explanation for how we
Speaker 4: got to where we are and why it is that
Speaker 4: Trump can actually negotiate a settlement where the terms of
Speaker 4: the settlement might be identical for the Biden Harris administration
Speaker 4: and the Trump administration. But Trump could get away with it,
Speaker 4: and Harris and Biden can't because they will look weak
Speaker 4: and spineless.
Speaker 3: So well, let's go out an overtime on this subject
Speaker 3: for one more round with this wrinkle. I gather I
Speaker 3: didn't hear it, but I just saw a tweet or
Speaker 3: something a new story referencing I guess. Late on Friday,
Speaker 3: Merrick Garland gave us some comments talking about taking very
Speaker 3: seriously the Iranian threat against President Trump, right assassination plot
Speaker 3: against him. You know that people have been, you know,
Speaker 3: Peter Doocy from Fox have been asking the White House
Speaker 3: about this, and they're just sort of downplaying it. And
Speaker 3: somebody decided, you know, I don't know, send some kind
Speaker 3: of signal to Iran that you know, we are paying
Speaker 3: attention to this.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that our foreign policy elite Lucretian wants
Speaker 3: a war with Iran.
Speaker 2: I think they're scared to death of it. But one
Speaker 2: thing we do know, the Iranians.
Speaker 3: Are scared to death of Trump because he took out
Speaker 3: there what's the Stulamani or whatever his name was, and
Speaker 3: there's mad about money.
Speaker 5: Well, they're also afraid of the United States Navy. And
Speaker 5: so if it really is true that the Iranian if
Speaker 5: we have proof that the Iranians are trying and it's
Speaker 5: not like courtroom proof, we just like know for intelligence
Speaker 5: purposes that Iran is trying to kill the major party candidate,
Speaker 5: you know, for the presidency, then we should sink a
Speaker 5: few Iranian naval vessels and blow up some oil platforms. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and they will, and I am sure they will back down. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but if they if we do nothing, then and this
Speaker 5: is the story of Iran in the Middle East is
Speaker 5: they're bullies. They get away with just pushing and pushing
Speaker 5: because no one stands up to them. And if we
Speaker 5: don't stand up, and they're just going to continue doing
Speaker 5: more of this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could easily see President Trump ordering the destruction
Speaker 3: of Iran's Cark Island, you know, oil refiner, and that's
Speaker 3: like that's their hub for their oil if you take
Speaker 3: that thing out there in deep trouble. And okay, all right,
Speaker 3: let's take a quick break and then we want to
Speaker 3: get back to I think events in Berkeley.
Speaker 5: This week, John, Yeah, Yeah, why don't we talk about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all Steve's fault, all right.
Speaker 3: So we talked to the Cretia about how Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: who was invading her neighborhood for a border stunt. But
Speaker 3: then John, you know, I wasn't back yet, so I
Speaker 3: missed all the fun. I mean, I was president eight
Speaker 3: years ago for the milo Aganapolis riot at Berkeley, but
Speaker 3: I missed the.
Speaker 2: Fun and games with a stem rough been at the
Speaker 2: law school on Tuesday night. So tell our listeners what
Speaker 2: happened if in case they didn't read my article about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So, first of all, this is a case once
Speaker 5: again of Steve. Hey, we're getting me in trouble. Steve,
Speaker 5: a fanboy for the Israeli Kanessa, met this very impressive.
Speaker 5: We both met him. We caped a was a very
Speaker 5: impressive minister of the Kanessa, Simcha Rothman, who actually as
Speaker 5: an American law degree from Northwestern and he really was
Speaker 5: the I think the real prime mover of the uh
Speaker 5: Supreme Court reform bill in Israel that was causing all
Speaker 5: the fuss last summer before the the summer before the attacks,
Speaker 5: before the October seventh attacks. And so uh we thought, hey,
Speaker 5: we should do an event and have him come and
Speaker 5: speak at Berkeley about this, you know, whether the Supreme
Speaker 5: Court in Israel should have its powers curbed. And we
Speaker 5: actually arranged for another very I think outstanding scholar who
Speaker 5: clerked on the Israeli Supreme Court named Joshua Kleinfeld, who
Speaker 5: just actually moved from Northwestern to George Mason to be
Speaker 5: kind of an interlocker tour slash debate partner, and of
Speaker 5: course Steve, knowing this would explode, didn't show up, hit out,
Speaker 5: fled to a jurisdiction with no extradition treaty with US
Speaker 5: like Amsterdam, and so there was I have to say,
Speaker 5: so this is the first time my time at the
Speaker 5: law school where a speaker at the law school could
Speaker 5: not actually speak so after about so there are all
Speaker 5: these protesters going on outside and I think they've violated
Speaker 5: a variety of rules by invading the law school building
Speaker 5: and you know, having like a corridor with signs attacking
Speaker 5: Jews and attacking Israel. There were some smaller or smaller
Speaker 5: number of pro Israeli protesters, but inside the room for
Speaker 5: about the first fifteen minutes we had we we heard
Speaker 5: from Rothman, and then two people got up and just
Speaker 5: started screaming at the top of their.
Speaker 2: Lungs and would not stop.
Speaker 5: They were asked to leave politely, they would not leave.
Speaker 2: And this is the problem.
Speaker 5: There were a lot of UC police there. I think
Speaker 5: the police chief was there. I think the Vice chancellor
Speaker 5: in charge of security was there, and they made the
Speaker 5: decision not to remove these people, not to arrest them,
Speaker 5: not to physically remove them. Once you decide to do
Speaker 5: that or not to do that, then you'd have a
Speaker 5: Heckler's veto. It's impossible to have any event if one
Speaker 5: person wants to stand up and scream continuously throughout the event.
Speaker 5: And so then it devolved from there. Then they went
Speaker 5: up to the front and took over the podium and
Speaker 5: the microphone and started screaming free Palestine in there, and
Speaker 5: then it would became impossible. Both speakers had to be
Speaker 5: escorted out by the police, and they finished the event
Speaker 5: on zoom, which is not acceptable alternative.
Speaker 2: And I thought the whole thing was a disaster.
Speaker 5: I think, I mean, I think the I think the
Speaker 5: First Amendment got well trampled on by these I think
Speaker 5: anti Sismic. I don't think they're anti Zionists. I think
Speaker 5: they're anti Semitic protesters, and the university failed in its
Speaker 5: duty to make sure that people are able to speak well.
Speaker 3: There's there's almost an almost comical aspect to this that
Speaker 3: I picked up on from a couple of news accounts
Speaker 3: and also the number of videos that were sent to
Speaker 3: me by some of the students who you and I know,
Speaker 3: and one of them.
Speaker 2: Is is that there were a number of left wing
Speaker 2: Jews who don't like Natan Yahoo showed up to disagree
Speaker 2: with Rothman and vigorously disagree with him, but we're going
Speaker 2: to allow him to speak. They were the ones who got.
Speaker 3: Tickets to the event, and before the event actually started,
Speaker 3: they had a long argument with Rothman entirely in Hebrew.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've got some videos.
Speaker 5: This is very this is very interesting. So I actually,
Speaker 5: I actually I like this part of Israeli culture. So
Speaker 5: I taught in Israel. It's a very funny experience. So
Speaker 5: like you'll talk and the students will just enter, start
Speaker 5: interjecting and just be like, wow, why, Like you might
Speaker 5: say yellow. Abraham's labor color was yellow, They'll be like
Speaker 5: why why they're Lincoln like yellow? What is yellow?
Speaker 3: Anyway?
Speaker 5: And they'll start arguing with you, you know, directly. So
Speaker 5: that's actually what was going on in the first fifteen minutes.
Speaker 5: Like roth would say something and then in Hebrew one
Speaker 5: of these people was saying it would clearly say something
Speaker 5: like why do you think that? Or show us the proof?
Speaker 5: And they do.
Speaker 2: But that's what like, that's what I saw in Israel.
Speaker 2: Like that's even.
Speaker 5: Normal speech in Israel. It was only when these two
Speaker 5: disruptors got up and started yelling and screaming that I
Speaker 5: think actually the event was going to end. I don't
Speaker 5: think these people yellow, you know, yelling out questions from
Speaker 5: the audience in Hebrew, were really disrupting and didn't want
Speaker 5: to try to disrupt event.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean, they were gonna let go for it,
Speaker 3: but they wanted to be heard to object to Rothmann,
Speaker 3: that you know. But then I mean, again, the accounts
Speaker 3: I gather is that, you know, I don't know, I
Speaker 3: hesitate to say naive liberal Jews, but you had these
Speaker 3: prohomous people, people who are anti Semites, full stuff, right, and.
Speaker 2: They're in there yelling and screaming, and I heard all
Speaker 2: they started left wing juic saying, but we agree with you,
Speaker 2: why are you yelling at us on your side? And
Speaker 2: so you know, he answered the three sided comedy going on,
Speaker 2: where yeah.
Speaker 5: They're like, those guys are kind of like we went
Speaker 5: a free Palestine too, Why are you yelling at us
Speaker 5: that we're for.
Speaker 2: A two state solution?
Speaker 6: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And then someone pulled the fire alarm and that that
Speaker 2: was at that point it's and.
Speaker 5: Then oh yeah, that's right, then the fire alarm was pulled,
Speaker 5: But it was I thought I was embarrassed on behalf
Speaker 5: of this university, of which you know, you and I
Speaker 5: are both apart. That you can't have a legitimate speaker,
Speaker 5: a minister of a parliament of a foreign country, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: and an important one too, can't give a speech on campus.
Speaker 5: That's embarrassment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: Maybe he should have just denounced started out by denouncing
Speaker 4: Amy Wax and then he would have been.
Speaker 2: Ah, well that's next to Trump.
Speaker 5: Maybe he should have denounced Trump and then he would
Speaker 5: have gotten a good fair earring.
Speaker 2: No, it wouldn't have worked. Now here's the question.
Speaker 5: You know. I talked to people from the administration about this,
Speaker 5: and they're like, well, we can't if we use the
Speaker 5: police to try to remove these people. It's almost like
Speaker 5: they're like repeating the words of the Biden administration. There
Speaker 5: might be an escalation, and we don't want an escalation
Speaker 5: because people will get hurt. And if people, you know,
Speaker 5: they're afraid of what you know was shown happening at
Speaker 5: UCLA and Colombia in the suiting that you'll get open
Speaker 5: fighting between pro and anti Israel protesters. But the problem
Speaker 5: is yes, that's a legitimate fear, but you're sacrificing the
Speaker 5: First Amendment, Adam.
Speaker 4: Can I just mention John that maybe I'm a little
Speaker 4: more cynical about it that that that concern You'll probably
Speaker 4: be surprised, but that concern is actually a cover not
Speaker 4: for not caring about the First Amendment. Leaves that aside.
Speaker 4: But I noticed in the Steve and I get these
Speaker 4: wrap ups of the all the circuit court cases for
Speaker 4: the week, and I've noticed a common trend that Ninth
Speaker 4: Circuit especially has refused to grant qualified immunity to police
Speaker 4: of any kind at University, police, police in Seattle, police
Speaker 4: here and there who acted with what might be considered
Speaker 4: excessive force against the George Floyd rioters. And you know,
Speaker 4: our courts are are are pretty pretty quick to grant
Speaker 4: qualified immunity in the most egregious of cases, in my opinion,
Speaker 4: but in every case I've read. Now, that's anecdotal, and
Speaker 4: I don't even think it makes data, Steve, but it
Speaker 4: just seems to me like they are continu continuously refusing
Speaker 4: to protect police who acted in the midst of those
Speaker 4: riots in ways. I mean, the case I read today
Speaker 4: was somebody who got shot in the eye the rubber bullet,
Speaker 4: and the Ninth Circuit upheld a jury finding that the
Speaker 4: police officer who said he couldn't know what he was
Speaker 4: shooting into did it on purpose and a million dollar
Speaker 4: damages or something like that. No qualified immunity upheld it.
Speaker 4: So maybe I mean, I'm not really making excuses for them.
Speaker 4: But until we get to the point where we say,
Speaker 4: you riot, you deserve everything you get up to and
Speaker 4: including arrest, disbarment, disenrollment, expulsion, all of the other things.
Speaker 4: What do you call it when you said them out
Speaker 4: of the country, deportation, all of that. We need to
Speaker 4: be able to do that and have it upheld, and
Speaker 4: then I think police might be a little bit less hesitant,
Speaker 4: especially police at a place like Berkeley, to be to
Speaker 4: defend the First Amendment the way it should be defended.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm wrong, but that was just my thought.
Speaker 2: Let me give a.
Speaker 3: Little background and then a concluding point about why this
Speaker 3: episode is significant for the next month because of the
Speaker 3: anniversary of October seven coming up. So you know, I
Speaker 3: remember after the Mile of Unopolis riots got out of
Speaker 3: hand back in twenty seventeen, and it turned out there
Speaker 3: were one hundred and fifty police inside Zellerbach Auditorium who
Speaker 3: were told to stand down and stay there. And I
Speaker 3: talked to somebody. That was when Chancellor Nick Dirks was
Speaker 3: in office, and he was a liberal loon.
Speaker 2: He was a fool, yeah, a total fool.
Speaker 3: But I talked to somebody on his staff who's not
Speaker 3: a fool but a liberal. But and I said, well,
Speaker 3: you know, come on, you got to tell me what's
Speaker 3: the deal here. And he said, well, we were out numbered,
Speaker 3: and you know the police will tell you. I guess
Speaker 3: this is probably right. I think I mentioned this before
Speaker 3: that you don't want to be out numbered in the
Speaker 3: case of a riot because it'll go badly for the
Speaker 3: police and everybody.
Speaker 2: You want to have a ratio of superiority of the police.
Speaker 3: And that's when his successor, Carol Chris said, Carol Chris said,
Speaker 3: you know, my Ben Shapiro is going to come. He
Speaker 3: is going to speak and I don't care how much
Speaker 3: it costs and how many law enforcement we have to have.
Speaker 3: And and because Antifa said they were going to shut
Speaker 3: that down, and Carol, you got I know people talking
Speaker 3: to her. She said, we are going to regain control
Speaker 3: of our campus. Period full stop, and she carried it off,
Speaker 3: and the left complained bitterly about Chancellor Christs.
Speaker 2: So there's the point, is is that, all right?
Speaker 3: Maybe the law school didn't take seriously the threat to
Speaker 3: Rothman from protesters. I don't know why you've been so
Speaker 3: foolish as to think there wouldn't have been this kind
Speaker 3: of a problem and have similarly ordered sufficient security to
Speaker 3: rouse anybody disrupting that hallway.
Speaker 2: We are now coming up. But this is open.
Speaker 3: I mean, the leftists are saying the week of October seven,
Speaker 3: they're going to disrupt campuses all over the country, disrupt cities.
Speaker 3: They're going to probably blockade highways they've imagined.
Speaker 5: And imagine if if Israel just killed the head of
Speaker 5: hezbe a Lot today, right and presses a military which
Speaker 5: I'm off for that too, yeah, Lucasia and presses an
Speaker 5: offensive into southern Lebanon, Right, Like that's gonna that'll just
Speaker 5: be compound how crazy they were going to be anyway.
Speaker 4: I wonder though, there is that we talked about a
Speaker 4: bit last time, John, that element of fake machoism on
Speaker 4: their part. If they're utterly defeated, then maybe they don't
Speaker 4: feel quite as much like the bullies. That was my
Speaker 4: first point. My second point is, why don't we hire
Speaker 4: some damn Spartans to be university police and send them
Speaker 4: into the Battle of the Mebley and just say, come on,
Speaker 4: you cowards, if you're outnumbered, well for.
Speaker 5: The football team. Let's get the football team out there.
Speaker 4: You guys may be thinking about the Roman Empire. I
Speaker 4: I'm female, I gotta go a little different direction.
Speaker 2: Right, all right, Lucrisia mentioned Amy wax Let's take up
Speaker 2: that and the wider implications of all that. Of course,
Speaker 2: after this very brief time out for or a sponsor,
Speaker 2: all right, this week we got I think what.
Speaker 3: Was a totally unsurprising, perhaps ruling out of the University
Speaker 3: of Pennsylvania suspending Amy wax forer year, cutting her salary
Speaker 3: in half, stripping her of her name chair, cutting off
Speaker 3: her summer funds, but not stripping her of tenure, and
Speaker 3: firing her, which is what I'm sure that they really
Speaker 3: wanted to do. So they're doubly cowards. And I don't know,
Speaker 3: you know, I've been the one who's been saying, gosh,
Speaker 3: things may be turning around. I saw a complaint this
Speaker 3: week from the left that darn Harvard. You know, five
Speaker 3: of the top seven positions now at Harvard are white males.
Speaker 3: You know, the whole DEI mentality is not going quietly
Speaker 3: into this good night. And you would have thought that
Speaker 3: Penn would have backed off of Professor Wax after their
Speaker 3: disgrace of their president last year and anti Semitism, but no,
Speaker 3: they went full speed ahead.
Speaker 2: And so I don't know.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll add this democracy really doesn't bother them, No
Speaker 4: it doesn't.
Speaker 3: But let me let me add one other thing that
Speaker 3: emerged this week, and I think it came from Amy.
Speaker 3: It was revealed by Aaron Sabarium at the Free Beacon newspaper,
Speaker 3: and she had to have gotten the documents from Wax
Speaker 3: and information from Professor Wax that the.
Speaker 2: University tried to settle with her saying all right, well
Speaker 2: you know we won't.
Speaker 3: We will. You can keep everything if you'll just sign
Speaker 3: a non disparagement clause and won't criticize the university. And
Speaker 3: I thought, you know, if they added a couple of
Speaker 3: zeros to that settlement offer, and maybe you'd take it.
Speaker 3: And she told him to go pound sand and which
Speaker 3: I think was great of her.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I have it on good authority that
Speaker 5: if she if the NBA provision is in there, which
Speaker 5: seems very strange for a university, Yes, of all places.
Speaker 5: I mean I could see, like, you know, a corporation,
Speaker 5: but a university once one of its to not exercise
Speaker 5: their free speech.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know that that she was unwilling to accept any
Speaker 5: settlement agreement, no matter how much money was attached, if
Speaker 5: it required her not to be able to talk about
Speaker 5: the whole affair she's been through.
Speaker 4: I mean, come on, if if if just like you say,
Speaker 4: a couple of extra zeros is enough to make you say,
Speaker 4: never mind the principles that I've sacrificed myself for for
Speaker 4: the last how many years it's been.
Speaker 2: Now too, a year and a half, Yeah, much longer
Speaker 2: than that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but yeah, I think it's been going on pre COVID,
Speaker 7: start before COVID, you know, and she never honestly we
Speaker 7: know what she said.
Speaker 4: We have, you know, their their version of what she said,
Speaker 4: her version of what she said. That nobody's uh denying
Speaker 4: what was actually said by her, nothing of which anybody
Speaker 4: who knows anything about higher education can possibly find objectionable.
Speaker 4: You know, Uh, why are they so afraid?
Speaker 5: I'm i mean, this is the other thing, is she
Speaker 5: is clearly being singled out for her ideology or her viewpoint,
Speaker 5: because I mean, you have people who believe it in
Speaker 5: all this critical race theory stuff, who say all white
Speaker 5: people are racist. They say all that, they say it
Speaker 5: in print, or they'll say, oh, there's structural racism. They
Speaker 5: will accuse universities, they'll accuse white colleagues of being racist,
Speaker 5: and nothing happens to them, right, Sometimes they get promoted,
Speaker 5: as far as I can tell. But it's so obviously
Speaker 5: about the content of what she's saying, and I just
Speaker 5: it's it's so she I hope she sues, I hope
Speaker 5: she sees, and I hope she wins.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's not just the content, it's specific content
Speaker 4: that is the worst of all. It's a little it's
Speaker 4: Amy Wax is the Clarence Thomas of the law profession,
Speaker 4: right she And I think the reason that they pick
Speaker 4: on her especially is because they think they can get
Speaker 4: away with it because she's Jewish, right, I swear I
Speaker 4: think that's the truth, because you'd think that after everything,
Speaker 4: all the humiliation they went through, that they'd be treading
Speaker 4: just a little bit more softly on this one, but
Speaker 4: they're sure not. And she's the worst because you know,
Speaker 4: at least until recently, Jewish law professors could claim some
Speaker 4: sort of victim status. She never did, of course, but
Speaker 4: that was but now that's just unacceptable, can we You know,
Speaker 4: Jews are whites now and they're oh, you know, guilty
Speaker 4: of racism. But the things that she said are they
Speaker 4: believe targeted against groups?
Speaker 5: True or not.
Speaker 4: They make groups feel bad, certain marginalized groups might feel bad.
Speaker 4: But she pointed out that her top students quite simply
Speaker 4: were not black. Very few. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. She
Speaker 4: never said none, she just said very few. And of
Speaker 4: course that's because of affirmative action and bad policies like that.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not necessarily that there aren't smart blacks
Speaker 4: out there, but you know, your pen is a little
Speaker 4: bit lower. The smarter blacks are going to go elsewhere,
Speaker 4: and there's just not enough of them to go around
Speaker 4: at these premier universities because you know, because they're only
Speaker 4: twelve percent of the total population. Right, it's just the
Speaker 4: circular on this whole thing. But anyway, she was never
Speaker 4: being racist, you know, she was just commenting.
Speaker 5: Look. The other thing is, you know, she has said
Speaker 5: things which are alleged to be critical of Asians. So
Speaker 5: she said something like, we have too many, too much
Speaker 5: Asian immigrations. I mean I don't find it a problem
Speaker 5: for someone to ask that question and be proven wrong
Speaker 5: if she's wrong, but you know, to fire her for
Speaker 5: ask saying something like that, I mean that undercuts the
Speaker 5: I don't think there's too much Asian immigration. It's the
Speaker 5: Germans and the polls we got to worry about.
Speaker 6: But no, just kidding, of course, but we don't want Irish.
Speaker 6: But it's like, why can't she like, why can't.
Speaker 5: She say that that's the So what if Asians are offended?
Speaker 2: So what grow up?
Speaker 5: Yeah, for want Asians to be coddled and protected from people,
Speaker 5: you know, taking you know, sounding opinions which may be
Speaker 5: critical of Asian immigration. All right, So like then we
Speaker 5: can have a discussion of how much immigration should there
Speaker 5: be and why is it problematic?
Speaker 4: And is it problematic?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 4: Cultures are cultures and they bring and recalled.
Speaker 5: Like the thing that started recall, I think the thing
Speaker 5: that started this all off was that she wrote a
Speaker 5: piece with Larry Alexander pritical theory. Guy, what do you
Speaker 5: guys saying that saying something like, you know that my
Speaker 5: minority groups are inner city family should follow the ath
Speaker 5: that worked in the nineteen fifties, you know, you know,
Speaker 5: get married, graduate from high school, get a job, and
Speaker 5: then have kids. And that was seen as somehow racist
Speaker 5: because she referenced the nineteen fifties positively, or she said
Speaker 5: something like this is sort of the Anglo American formula
Speaker 5: for success, and all their groups should do it too.
Speaker 2: Yeah and right, Yeah, that offensive.
Speaker 5: They're also social scientists who think that's true.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that was the moan that was the
Speaker 3: moynihan report of nineteen seventy five, by the way, that
Speaker 3: that what that's I forget, I forget the label.
Speaker 2: It's not the success sequence.
Speaker 3: But one of the persons who was a big champion
Speaker 3: of that point of view in the Clinton years was
Speaker 3: Bill Colston, who was you know, special advisor and in
Speaker 3: house intellectual, you know, democrat student of Alan Bloom. He's
Speaker 3: one of the only sort of liberals who was a
Speaker 3: student out of the Strauss blue world of Chicago.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: And I know Bill of something and and but he
Speaker 2: you know, Crystal, Bill Colston, Bill.
Speaker 4: The only one over.
Speaker 5: Well, but I'm sorry Lucretia was making fun of Bill
Speaker 5: still there.
Speaker 2: Shooting fishing.
Speaker 3: Look, I think part of what I think, part of
Speaker 3: what's going on here, and we'll segue to a related topic,
Speaker 3: is they wanted to make an example out of Amy
Speaker 3: Wax because if they didn't, other people might start saying
Speaker 3: what she said exactly. And and you know, I think
Speaker 3: I keep coming back to this, and I actually I've
Speaker 3: got a whole series of articles I want to write
Speaker 3: actually from my new Substack site called liberal fragility. Right,
Speaker 3: we've had this whole white fragility from that Robin DiAngelo fraud.
Speaker 3: But I think it's really true of liberals is that
Speaker 3: they are very fragile, insecure people, easily threatened. And boy,
Speaker 3: if you don't stop, you don't shut up Amy Wax,
Speaker 3: other people might start saying the same thing, which.
Speaker 2: Leads to the way go ahead.
Speaker 5: Since you guys are so bad at promoting yourselves, what
Speaker 5: is the substack thing? You know? We tie less without you.
Speaker 5: We talked about Lucretia's posting on subsect. I was like,
Speaker 5: what is the substack? Why am I not in it?
Speaker 5: Why are you two guys in it? When you should
Speaker 5: anybody read it?
Speaker 4: John?
Speaker 5: But No, I didn't know. I didn't know about the subset.
Speaker 2: You guys got to promote the hell out. Well, we're just.
Speaker 3: Getting started, John, and we already. Actually I'm as well.
Speaker 3: We started own substack called Political Questions.
Speaker 2: That's the title for now.
Speaker 3: By the way, I think, John, it might become the
Speaker 3: substack for a certain institution in Texas.
Speaker 2: That you and I were talking to. Figuring you guys
Speaker 2: are totally leading.
Speaker 3: I know you're invited. You're totally invited to participate it.
Speaker 3: But I'll say I'll tell you more about substack later.
Speaker 2: But uh, the point is this.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: The other related story I think to the Wax episode is, uh,
Speaker 3: you had several the elite universities release their demographics for
Speaker 3: their incoming class, the first new class since the Harvard decision.
Speaker 2: And I think you have Duke and Princeton and I
Speaker 2: forget who Brown and maybe Penn boasting that, oh, we
Speaker 2: have this terrifically diverse class.
Speaker 3: And Asian admissions actually went down in a couple of
Speaker 3: minutes institutions, uh, and Hispanic and Black admissions stayed the
Speaker 3: same or went up a little bit.
Speaker 2: So the question is you guys all said to the
Speaker 2: Supreme Court in Harvard case.
Speaker 3: Without affirmative action and allowing to take race into account,
Speaker 3: we can't have a diverse student body.
Speaker 2: And now you're boasting that you have a diverse student
Speaker 2: body where you and Steve were you lying to the
Speaker 2: court last year or are you cheating now are?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: That piece Jason Riley wrote a piece in the Wallstreet
Speaker 5: Journal called me for my comments, and I didn't know
Speaker 5: he was going to take the comments and use them,
Speaker 5: but I think when I read them, I was like
Speaker 5: they were kind of colorful. But I'm just like, it's
Speaker 5: like everybody knows, right, Like everyone in higher education knows
Speaker 5: that they're still using race. Everyone knows they're cheating.
Speaker 2: They know they're cheating.
Speaker 5: They just don't want to get caught cheating. Yeah, everyone
Speaker 5: knows you can't produce those numbers without cheating.
Speaker 4: I could provide you, guys from my inbox for the
Speaker 4: last week with one hundred emails on how to cheat
Speaker 4: that way, honest to God, That come from consultants, that
Speaker 4: come from you know, there's god awful higher education consortium
Speaker 4: groups and all those other places Admissions officers, higher Chronicle
Speaker 4: of Higher Education. Yeah, let's figure out how we do
Speaker 4: holistic reviews right, so that we can make sure that
Speaker 4: we get the right people admitted and not let the
Speaker 4: wrong people in and not call it because of race.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just ridiculous. There's my own enrollment. Central
Speaker 4: Enrollment Processing Unit now spends thirty pages of annotations on
Speaker 4: any student who a prospective student who applies, who doesn't
Speaker 4: meet the threshold of a three point zero and wants
Speaker 4: to get in any way, there's this thirty page thing
Speaker 4: that they have to go through before they deny them
Speaker 4: if they're a.
Speaker 1: Person of color.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this reminds me if you remember when Stanford put
Speaker 5: out the list of words you weren't allowed to use.
Speaker 5: Remember we had our contest to use them all, Like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we're like use thirty of them within like the first
Speaker 5: thirty seconds of the program. And she wasn't even trying everybody,
Speaker 5: she was just talking. She didn't even know there was
Speaker 5: a contest. She didn't even know there was a contest.
Speaker 5: But what we should do is we should put out
Speaker 5: a document of all the words you should use in
Speaker 5: your application essays to get into college.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I could do that.
Speaker 5: Actually, the list it would be the exact reverse of
Speaker 5: the bad words from Stanford, Well to be all of.
Speaker 4: Their suggested ones. John, remember their suggestions.
Speaker 5: Yes, well, I think yeah, that's right, the alternatives, that's
Speaker 5: where they were agreed.
Speaker 3: But here's a callback on this. I'm pretty sure we
Speaker 3: mentioned that could when the Harvard case was decided. This
Speaker 3: is going to be like Brown versus Board of Education. Yes,
Speaker 3: the Democrat run South engaged in massive resistance, and today
Speaker 3: our Democrat run universities.
Speaker 2: Are engaging in massive resistance.
Speaker 3: Now, what was required after Brown was years and years
Speaker 3: of follow up litigation and God bless him, our hero
Speaker 3: behind the Harvard case, Edward bloom Is, written letters to
Speaker 3: all the universities saying you're on notice, and by the way,
Speaker 3: you better preserve your documents because there's going to be discovery.
Speaker 2: You sob and Melsing only slightly. I mean I know
Speaker 2: you know Edward, somebody I know it pretty well.
Speaker 5: No, No, I mean it's going to take a lot
Speaker 5: of lawsuits in litigation, right, people, even though even though
Speaker 5: the super majorities of the American people are against the
Speaker 5: use of race, so they're going to have to pressure
Speaker 5: their elected officials to stop doing this. And it's not
Speaker 5: just universities where this ideology is really rooted is in
Speaker 5: k through twelve teachers. We've all gone through these graduate
Speaker 5: schools of education where they've been taught to get rid
Speaker 5: of merit and intellectually excellence and replace it with this diversity.
Speaker 4: In the difference, can I just say really quickly, Steve,
Speaker 4: here's the difference between the resistance to Brown and the
Speaker 4: resistance to the Harvard case. In Brown, the resistance was
Speaker 4: based upon prejudice, real acknowledged prejudice. There wasn't anybody in
Speaker 4: the South arguing against Brown versus Board of Education arguing
Speaker 4: for impeaching or Warren or any of those things who
Speaker 4: didn't say it's because I believe ect right. They didn't
Speaker 4: hide their views, they didn't pretend that they were something
Speaker 4: other than what they are. What you said about Amy Wax,
Speaker 4: the emperor has no clothes on. If anybody hears Amy
Speaker 4: Wax say that and think that they can get away
Speaker 4: with it, the whole edifice call false. It's everything you
Speaker 4: always say about the left, Steve. I hate to give
Speaker 4: you this much credit, but you're right here.
Speaker 2: I'll take it.
Speaker 4: That is that just even thinking about Kamalama ding Dong's
Speaker 4: speech today in Douglas Arizona, where she's pretending like she's
Speaker 4: the toughest borders are that ever walk the planet. She
Speaker 4: doesn't believe any of that nonsense, not one word of it.
Speaker 4: But it's necessary for the left to lie, It's necessary
Speaker 4: for the left to dissemble, It's necessary for them to
Speaker 4: be disingenuous and hope that people don't catch them at it.
Speaker 4: And when somebody like Amy Wax comes along and says,
Speaker 4: here's the truth of the matter, folks, it's devastating to them.
Speaker 4: They're not just fragile. They are threatened. Yeah, everything is threatened.
Speaker 4: You cannot you cannot call the emperor naked whatever you do.
Speaker 4: And I think that's the difference. I don't disagree with
Speaker 4: your analogy. I just think that's an important point to
Speaker 4: point out. Let the left tell the truth for a change.
Speaker 4: Let them come out before the voters. Said this to
Speaker 4: John last week. Let Kamala Kamalama ding Dong come out
Speaker 4: before the voters, tell the truth about what she believes,
Speaker 4: what her values truly are. Defend them or have somebody
Speaker 4: we know she can't defend.
Speaker 2: Of course they will.
Speaker 5: I mean, of course they were just like with affirmative action.
Speaker 5: They know that great dry American people are against it.
Speaker 5: They don't want to honestly say we do want to
Speaker 5: use race to produce these outcomes. That they hide it
Speaker 5: behind this allegedly, or we're just creating, you know, diversity
Speaker 5: of viewpoint and it's the same thing.
Speaker 2: Right, Kama was not going to.
Speaker 5: Go out and explain her real values. Right, they don't
Speaker 5: think these are the people who came up with the
Speaker 5: idea of the noble lie in the first place.
Speaker 4: Can I ask you just really quock question. I know
Speaker 4: we want to move on, Steve, but do you think
Speaker 4: that you know the there's a lot of talk around
Speaker 4: my circles. I guess you could say that the reason
Speaker 4: that they're so bent on destroying K twelve education, higher
Speaker 4: education is of course, what they want is a an uneducated, unthinking,
Speaker 4: incapable of critical thinking populous, so that that populace can
Speaker 4: be much better controlled. That's the sort of tinfoil conspiracy
Speaker 4: view of hard right conservatives about about our system of education. Yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 4: But my point is, in order to how do I
Speaker 4: say this? You don't put Clarence Thomas in a class
Speaker 4: on critical race theory and expect him to be propagandized
Speaker 4: or have his mind, you know, sort of shaped by
Speaker 4: this and no questions asked. So but if you promote
Speaker 4: up people who weren't ever taught how to think, you
Speaker 4: don't force them into the LSAT or something else that
Speaker 4: might actually show their propensity for critical thinking, then you
Speaker 4: have them much You have a much more easily brainwashed
Speaker 4: student body, and they become much more compliant, much more
Speaker 4: willing to go along with pro Hamas propaganda, pro government propaganda,
Speaker 4: pro climate change aganda, you name it. Anyway, there's my
Speaker 4: conspiracy theory for the day, because I know listeners would
Speaker 4: be very upset if I didn't offer at least one
Speaker 4: good conspiracy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know either. I mean the deception. You're right
Speaker 2: about the deceptions of the left. I think it may
Speaker 2: be simpler that they're just actually that stupid and believe
Speaker 2: in the ideology of victimology. Yeah, I think they just
Speaker 2: believe it.
Speaker 4: They Yeah, well, listeners, I want I want to vote
Speaker 4: on this one.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, speaking of voting, and we're almost out of time,
Speaker 3: and let me just mention a couple of quick facts
Speaker 3: that I think are curious and we'll come back to this,
Speaker 3: because of course, the election is going.
Speaker 2: The polls are volatile. It's dumb to follow them day
Speaker 2: to day. But there are two things of interest that
Speaker 2: came to my attention this week.
Speaker 3: One is, oh, news out of your state, Arizona, Lucretia,
Speaker 3: is that what some jurisdictions sent out two thousand duplicate ballots?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 2: Ah, this is the big cheat is in the Maybe.
Speaker 2: But here's an interesting thing that there are fifty.
Speaker 3: Million mail in votes ballots out already, but it turns
Speaker 3: out that twenty million of those are here in California,
Speaker 3: which is not a state that sent right. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: and now the interesting thing is the number of ballots
Speaker 3: and early voting started in a lot of states. The
Speaker 3: number of ballots that have been turned in is amazingly small,
Speaker 3: under one hundred thousand in Pennsylvania. And I don't know
Speaker 3: if people are now the Lucretia will probably say people
Speaker 3: are undecided.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: If that's it. I have a bunch of theories about this.
Speaker 2: But the point is is that we're not seeing a
Speaker 2: lot of votes being banked early like we saw in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. And they'll pay attention to all this, but
Speaker 2: it's the point is that it does look like, we're
Speaker 2: not right now and still early in some ways, but
Speaker 2: we're not.
Speaker 3: We're not seeing necessarily a rerun of twenty twenty, but
Speaker 3: we'll pay attention. The second thing is on a macro
Speaker 3: level news out or data out this week from Gallup
Speaker 3: and a couple others, for the first time since before
Speaker 3: the Great Depression, so almost eighty years ago, UH, voters
Speaker 3: identifying as Republicans outnumber voters identifying as Democrats.
Speaker 2: And normally have been going on for a while.
Speaker 3: Well, by the way, one of the states where Republican
Speaker 3: registration is surging is Pennsylvania. And yeah, you know, if
Speaker 3: you if you go back to UH, if you go
Speaker 3: back to the last you know, ten elections presidential election cycles,
Speaker 3: that partisans split of people's declared party preference has tracked
Speaker 3: pretty closely to the popular vote. And so, by the way,
Speaker 3: and we know that the polls have now in free
Speaker 3: elections in a row or two election last two.
Speaker 2: Elections have understated Trump's support. It's driving posters crazy.
Speaker 3: And so all these polls that show Trump even maybe
Speaker 3: down a point or two. I mean, let's remember the
Speaker 3: real average, real Color Politics average of polls, which is
Speaker 3: kind of the best way to throw all the soup together.
Speaker 3: Had Biden leading by six seven points any he won
Speaker 3: by three in the popular vote.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: Look, I was you know Macrusha and I are talking
Speaker 5: about this because when we taped last week, I had
Speaker 5: just spent the week in Pennsylvania, right, And you can
Speaker 5: feel it. It is not is not a lock for
Speaker 5: Harris at all, and the pollings you just suggest it's tied.
Speaker 5: You also have McCormick, who got he should have been
Speaker 5: the candidate rather than doctor Oz from two years ago.
Speaker 5: He was running a really good campaign. He's running the
Speaker 5: kind of ads that Trump should run. He's got these ads,
Speaker 5: these great ads up which quote Harris saying things about
Speaker 5: the border and guns and diversity and from four years ago,
Speaker 5: from twenty twenty or even more recently about the border,
Speaker 5: and then playing the other things she's saying at the debates,
Speaker 5: and they just utterly contradict each other. I mean, they're
Speaker 5: really good ads, are really effective. And he's also running
Speaker 5: a very positive campaign too. He's got very good positive
Speaker 5: ads up. I don't think Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania really decides the election.
Speaker 5: I really still think it's fifty to fifty in the washing.
Speaker 5: I think it was The Washington Post has them tied, yeh,
Speaker 5: you know, and in the Senate race too. So don't
Speaker 5: I don't mean you need any fancy data and your
Speaker 5: little regression model, Stevie. Just spend a few days on
Speaker 5: the ground in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: You're from there.
Speaker 5: You can feel that this is going to be a
Speaker 5: coin flip election there.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I forget the data.
Speaker 3: I mean, I say it's metaphysically impossible for Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: to be president.
Speaker 2: And then so.
Speaker 5: What does that mean? Well, what does that mean?
Speaker 2: It's an appeal to natural law, John, but and prudence.
Speaker 3: But I'll leave all right, Lucretia.
Speaker 5: What be?
Speaker 2: What be headlines we got for us this week? We
Speaker 2: got some handy, We got lots we just give keep them.
Speaker 4: I'll just give you a few. Okay, So let's start
Speaker 4: with media asks Trump. Can you hear? Media asked Trump?
Speaker 4: If he's tried reducing assassination attempts by being less Republican,
Speaker 4: they get better. I have to start with the weak ones.
Speaker 4: After being asked where his brother is, Kin explains to
Speaker 4: God that he grew up in a middle class family.
Speaker 4: We didn't get to this. I wanted to talk with
Speaker 4: John about it, but we are over time, so I'll
Speaker 4: just offer the Babylon b which I think may very
Speaker 4: well be a summary of John's views on the matter.
Speaker 4: Black man faces punishment for disobeying his Democratic masters, and
Speaker 4: it is a picture of Eric Adams. Yeah, Trump, this one.
Speaker 4: I think we discussed this a little last time. John
Speaker 4: Trump will start World War three, says party, autographing bombs
Speaker 4: to be launched at russa Russia.
Speaker 2: Yeah boy, that's not funny really, but yeah.
Speaker 4: Acting US President stops by White House to pick up paycheck.
Speaker 4: And it's a picture of Zelenski.
Speaker 2: That was going to be doctor Jill.
Speaker 3: Yeah Jill.
Speaker 4: Yeah we boy, doctor Jill. You were gone, Steve. When
Speaker 4: doctor Jill media warns Florida hurricane may hamper ongoing Trump
Speaker 4: assassination attempt, Paris declines to say whether she supports the
Speaker 4: hurricane or not. Sorry, you know that he is a
Speaker 4: This was my personal favorite, though we didn't discuss anything
Speaker 4: about it, but it is my personal favorite. Mark Cuban
Speaker 4: inspires thousands by proving even the very retarded can become wealthy.
Speaker 2: So that guy is awful. That's right, Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: John ding Dong, I'm working on one, John, So.
Speaker 5: Let's see always drink your whiskey meat. Let's go Brandon
Speaker 5: and Steve.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm working on this so I can't read my writing,
Speaker 2: but it's okay.
Speaker 3: Everyone go forth and be holistically inspired so that you
Speaker 3: could be inspired holistically.
Speaker 2: All right, Bye, bye, everybody, see you next week.
Speaker 5: Bye next week.
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