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<v Speaker 1>Well, whiskey coming gay, Oh, why don't you? From Powerline

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<v Speaker 1>blog dot com and produced by Ricochet dot Com. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the three Whiskey Happy Hour with your bartenders Steve Hayward,

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<v Speaker 1>John You, and power Lines International Woman of Mystery Lucretia.

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<v Speaker 2>Got you gotta giving? Let that whiskey float where you're

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<v Speaker 2>being in love down he loon? All right, I am back, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm back in the US. I'm back in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Chair for this podcast because when I let Lucretian John

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<v Speaker 3>all on their own, they just run a mock and

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm gonna bring order back to this podcast. I

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<v Speaker 3>have got my Lefroy twenty five because I've been drinking

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<v Speaker 3>acavit and Dutch jin geneva jenee vera however you pronounce

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<v Speaker 3>it uh, And so I'm glad to be back.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you John? How are you? Lucretia? What are

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<v Speaker 2>you drinking? How are you feeling?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm feeling joy. I'm feeling joy because, as we all know,

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<v Speaker 4>Kamalama ding Dong visited my state. Not only did she

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<v Speaker 4>visit my state, she visited the town where my best

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<v Speaker 4>friend lives.

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<v Speaker 3>And right, well, I thought, right, I mean so right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean she was in your hood, and now John,

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<v Speaker 3>she's like literally across the street.

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<v Speaker 4>From you, and she was it was five o'clock Pacific

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<v Speaker 4>where when she was in Douglas. So she got on

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<v Speaker 4>a quick ass airplane and flew to Fairmont and got

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<v Speaker 4>a helicopter. I mean flew to San Francisco and got

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<v Speaker 4>a helicopter to the Fairmont. Because I've barely had one

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<v Speaker 4>drink since her I kmitted more since her speet.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not enough.

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<v Speaker 5>And when she's in San Francisco, she mixes with the

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<v Speaker 5>people by barricading herself inside the Fairmont Hotel at the

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<v Speaker 5>top of what is deservedly called knob Hill, where all

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<v Speaker 5>the snobs live. And you can't get a close off

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<v Speaker 5>all the streets around this gigantic hotel with police and

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<v Speaker 5>sniffer dogs and everything. All I want to do is

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<v Speaker 5>go hang around at the University Club across the street.

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<v Speaker 5>Are a little old, run down. It's so run down

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<v Speaker 5>old that Winston Churchill would look at home, look at

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<v Speaker 5>home here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I used to go to the Universe.

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<v Speaker 3>This is thirty years ago now, John, But I used

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<v Speaker 3>to go have lunch with William Rusher at the University

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<v Speaker 3>Club and smoke.

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<v Speaker 5>Cigars, which yeah they because yeah, people still smoke cigars

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<v Speaker 5>here drink they have excellent bourbon and Scotch selection. If

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<v Speaker 5>any loyal listeners who can identify Lucretia by voice, which

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<v Speaker 5>has happened to me only once in the freaking Flyer

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<v Speaker 5>Lounge and Frankfurt with a weird guy from Norway. But

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<v Speaker 5>if anybody wants that can do that, I will offer

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<v Speaker 5>them as much bourbon and Scotch as they can drink

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<v Speaker 5>on my tab at the University Club in one night.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually it's good. I won't go into why now. If

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<v Speaker 4>they have even the tiniest, slightest detective skills, it should

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<v Speaker 4>be very very very easy to figure out if you

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<v Speaker 4>don't already know who I am. All of our listeners

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<v Speaker 4>are very smart. They knew who I am, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>okay with that. It's just plausible deniability when I get

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<v Speaker 4>called in front of the provost and you know, blah

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah. Anyway, let me talk for just a moment

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<v Speaker 4>about my So you're talking about you know, Kam Lama

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<v Speaker 4>ding dong.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, but just one sentence, Lucretia, you should take

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<v Speaker 3>a bow or we give you a prize because commentary magazine,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, you're not always a huge fan of

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<v Speaker 3>that gang there. They're a podcast this week used Kami

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<v Speaker 3>Lama ding Dong as their title.

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<v Speaker 2>So you get the prize and royalties, and.

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<v Speaker 5>They get that. They give full credit in citation to

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<v Speaker 5>Lucretia they did. I'm okay with that. Oh see, that's

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<v Speaker 5>the kind of conduct we expect from the people a

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<v Speaker 5>commentary exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm okay with it because you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>a selfish person. I share my joy with the world.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm also very joyful about so I really spend an

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<v Speaker 4>extraordinary amount of time in Douglas. It is a it

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<v Speaker 4>is a border town.

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<v Speaker 5>It is now.

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<v Speaker 4>It used to be a huge mining town, copper mining town,

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<v Speaker 4>and the place is still you know, but it's now,

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<v Speaker 4>of course, a human trafficking town. That's its and they

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<v Speaker 4>passed through. It's got one of the second largest border

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<v Speaker 4>crossing in Arizona, I believe it is, and it's about

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<v Speaker 4>to be made bigger. That was a big deal. But

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<v Speaker 4>here's the point. Douglas is a small town and it's

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<v Speaker 4>a poor town. It's a very poor, mostly Mexican immigrant town.

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<v Speaker 4>There's not any there's not a lot of wealth there

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<v Speaker 4>anymore at all, and it doesn't have any large venues.

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<v Speaker 4>So my understanding, I cannot confirm this absolutely reliably, but

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<v Speaker 4>my understanding is that she went to Coache's Community College

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<v Speaker 4>has a campus in Douglas and was at the theater.

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<v Speaker 4>The theater holds one hundred and forty persons max. And

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<v Speaker 4>the interesting thing was, if you watched her speech li

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<v Speaker 4>I watched it on Fox, there was only one camera.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the troll what's his name, Mark Kelly spoke

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<v Speaker 4>and but the camera they only ever trained one camera

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<v Speaker 4>on any of the speakers up at the front, and

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<v Speaker 4>there's you know, a teleprompter. Her speech was a teleprompter speech.

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<v Speaker 4>And my thought was did they actually force Fox News

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<v Speaker 4>before they would let them in that venue or did

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<v Speaker 4>Fox get their their film from someone else that not

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<v Speaker 4>to look at the crowd, I mean, they were very loud.

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<v Speaker 4>The crowd was very loud, but not loud because there

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<v Speaker 4>were literally thousands of people speaking out. They were just

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<v Speaker 4>loud mouthed people, you know, very excited and joyful about

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<v Speaker 4>being there with the troll and Kamala and Ding Dong.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, that was my first comment about it. She

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<v Speaker 4>was more articulate because she had a teleprompter and she

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<v Speaker 4>sounded like, except for a few comments, she sounded like

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<v Speaker 4>she could be Trump. Quite frankly. She talked about, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that it was important to close the border to refugees

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<v Speaker 4>except at border crossings. It was important to stop fentanyl.

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<v Speaker 4>She bragged about how she shut down cartels in California

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<v Speaker 4>operating in San Francisco. I'm sure you guys remember that

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<v Speaker 4>when she shut down the fentanyl trade and the cartels

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<v Speaker 4>in San Francisco when she was Attorney general. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 4>it was just lie after lie after lie. Other than

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<v Speaker 4>she wanted a path for dreamers. It's about the only

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<v Speaker 4>honest thing she said. And of course then she turned

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<v Speaker 4>to Trump, and you know, you want to ask if

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<v Speaker 4>you've got all these great ideas for how we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to close the border and make, you know, take away

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<v Speaker 4>all these families that are suffering from the effects of

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<v Speaker 4>illegal immigration and fentanyl and guns, and tell them why

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<v Speaker 4>isn't she doing it herself? Because in case she didn't forget,

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<v Speaker 4>she could go back to the White House and start

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<v Speaker 4>doing it right away. But no she can't, because you

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<v Speaker 4>know why, it's Trump's fault. And you know why it's

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<v Speaker 4>Trump's fault because somehow, even though Trump is not in

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<v Speaker 4>any position of power in the legislature or otherwise, he

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<v Speaker 4>stopped the bipartisan immigration reform bill, which is what every

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<v Speaker 4>stupid Democratic politician from Arizona says every time the subject

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<v Speaker 4>comes up, and they have to make an answer for

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<v Speaker 4>their pathetic excuse for policies only on immigration anyway. So

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<v Speaker 4>I want to know, how is it that she being

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<v Speaker 4>part of the administration and this was such a bipartisan

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<v Speaker 4>bill and all these conservatives even wanted it. She said,

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<v Speaker 4>all these the most conservative people in the Congress wanted

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<v Speaker 4>this by partisan reform bill, but Trump stopped it. Do

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<v Speaker 4>you guys know how that happened?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I remember hearing all that that was all nonsense,

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<v Speaker 2>And okay, you're back. You froze up for a second there, Lucretia.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>But my theme for the week, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 3>Israel strikes, but camel of bombs. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of catastrophic interviews. We saw that, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think we need to do all on that for

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<v Speaker 3>too much.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think I think we should holistically look at

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<v Speaker 4>how she holistically addressed all of the holistic problems of

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<v Speaker 4>this country and how we holistically can bring our aspirations

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<v Speaker 4>and our dreams together so that we all holistically can

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<v Speaker 4>find the American dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you just took my new sign out for this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>But you can still do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Audio, I'm going to add being inspired, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing. We need to inspire people so we

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<v Speaker 2>can be inspired. That was a rather alright, sol.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the spirit of inspiration will cause us to be

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<v Speaker 4>inspired so that we can dream the dreams that inspire

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<v Speaker 4>us to dream.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I thought, by the way, John, a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a sidebarb, but not entirely.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard you talking last week how you once taught

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<v Speaker 3>briefly here for a month at the Free Universe of Amsterdam,

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<v Speaker 3>and say, my impression of Amsterdam from being there a

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<v Speaker 3>week was they need they need a certain statute. We

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<v Speaker 3>can't mention here because of the unbelievable amount of marijuana smoke.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, you did not tell what you're talking about that's

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<v Speaker 5>not governed by the Clean Air Act.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it should be, and then that should be.

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<v Speaker 3>They need they need OSHA at least, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all the the buildings are just incredible safety nightmares, the

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<v Speaker 3>stairways and stuff. And then finally, you know, I noticed

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<v Speaker 3>that the bicycle riders are out of control in Amsterdam

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<v Speaker 3>and none of them were helmets.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in California helmets are mandatory, as we know,

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<v Speaker 2>and in probably other places in any way.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you notice here was one interesting thing about the bicycles,

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<v Speaker 5>which I fear is going to happen to all of

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<v Speaker 5>us with the rise and crime in our in our cities.

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<v Speaker 5>Because you notice almost all the bicycles in Amsterdam where ugly, old,

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<v Speaker 5>beat up bicycles. That's because anyone who has a nice

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<v Speaker 5>bicycle has it immediately stolen. So the idea in the Dutchess,

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<v Speaker 5>just have a terrible bicycle and like blended in with

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<v Speaker 5>all the other ugly, terrible bicycles and no one will attack,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, choose yours and steal that. That's what's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>happen to us in these inner cities these days. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>like with the rise to crime in places like San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I've seen recently the comeback from the seventies,

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<v Speaker 5>signs in people's car saying this car is unlocked, right,

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<v Speaker 5>please don't break the glass and you can take anything

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<v Speaker 5>you can find in it because crime was so bad

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<v Speaker 5>back in the seventies, remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, Yeah, I do remember that. Unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's take a very quick break here for

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<v Speaker 3>a message from a sponsor, and then I'll bring up

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<v Speaker 3>another topic for the week that is one that's divided us.

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<v Speaker 3>So after this, So I think I didn't prepare you

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<v Speaker 3>guys for this, but I think the other interesting story

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<v Speaker 3>of the week, and I said, it's something that has

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<v Speaker 3>divided us a bit in for the last year and

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<v Speaker 3>a half or more longer is Zelenski came to the

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<v Speaker 3>US and I think had it to disastrous visit because

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<v Speaker 3>he essentially, I don't know if he was foolish or

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<v Speaker 3>it was on purpose, but he essentially lent himself to

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<v Speaker 3>be an adjunct to the Democratic campaign for president by

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<v Speaker 3>going to Pennsylvania and appearing with all the Democratic and

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, giving an interview to The New Yorker

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<v Speaker 3>where he criticized Trump and attacked JD. Vance directly. What

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<v Speaker 3>a foolish thing to do.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I guess they should prosecute him.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Well, I you know somebody you know it's it's here.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds like more of election interference than Trump signing a

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, I mean, what what John?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you you've generally been in favor of our

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<v Speaker 2>But what say you now? That seems to be a

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<v Speaker 5>it now. Obviously, I think a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>other countries have their hopes for who might win our election,

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<v Speaker 5>what a mistake. There's a terrible mistake. But that doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>Can I ask an honest question, how does anybody in

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<v Speaker 4>because you've never been guilty of this, but how does

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<v Speaker 4>one actually demand a cease fire from Israel ah and

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<v Speaker 4>not demand a ceasefire from Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>people saying there should be a ceasefire in Israel are crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It appears.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's reports apparently coming out of the Middle

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<v Speaker 5>East now that Israel killed the head of Hezbola Justine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to ask you if you which is true?

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<v Speaker 5>So apparently, well, I just went and looked, and so

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<v Speaker 5>all these rallies did is they just targeted with their

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<v Speaker 5>That must mean where the head of the leader is.

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<v Speaker 5>Well that's a big that's a big deal for you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the millies with Israel. I mean, if you're Israel, right,

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<v Speaker 5>rest of the Hezbolah leadership. You already used the pagers

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<v Speaker 5>just killed the head of Hesbela. They killed the military

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<v Speaker 5>military leader of Hesbola last week. I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>I was just gonna say I heard that hes blow

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<v Speaker 2>Your question is one that's been on my mind too,

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<v Speaker 4>Don't mean it to be Steven merely what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>But the LinkedIn answer or no no actually is a joke.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that this exposes, if we needed it again, the

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<v Speaker 4>Lite just stupidity. Let's let's give them a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of credit for being absolutely abjectly stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you can be both stupid and malicious or mendation

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time. Right, embrace the power of Anne

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<v Speaker 3>because you're demanding a cease fire from Israel, not just

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<v Speaker 3>for gose of but now for Hesbola. And of course

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<v Speaker 3>the real reason is they're panicked that an escalating war

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<v Speaker 3>we might get involved. But I think also they're really

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<v Speaker 3>worried about the political fallout for the Harris campaign. But

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<v Speaker 3>you'll notice that when Biden went on the View, or

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<v Speaker 4>But I but I did get a lot of responses

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<v Speaker 4>to my tweet that said Biden's going on the View,

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<v Speaker 4>so that for once he could be the smartest person

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Biden was wearing a flag pin that was the

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<v Speaker 3>American flag and the Ukrainian flag, and I thought, okay, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>when is he has he ever worn an American flag

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<v Speaker 3>and an Israeli flag or any Democrats wearing except for

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<v Speaker 3>maybe Fetterman wearing an American flag in an Israeli flag.

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<v Speaker 3>After all, what Israel done here in the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>They've killed a lot of people that we've had a

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think Biden should send him a check

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<v Speaker 4>for the seven million dollars bounty.

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<v Speaker 5>And the second thing just took Just give them some

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<v Speaker 3>And just to round off this about Zelensky's blunder and

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<v Speaker 3>you know Trump's meeting, you know, Trump has actually although

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<v Speaker 3>Trump has said some things like and this week you said,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, you know, Zelensky's blunder led Trump to

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<v Speaker 3>say Ukraine is lost.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if Trump thinks that or not, but

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<v Speaker 3>up to this point, Trump has actually maintained a fairly

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<v Speaker 2>He has fair right. And the point is, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think what's behind all that is is Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Assume Trump wins, the current appropriations of money in the

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<v Speaker 3>Ukraine runs out. Who knows if Trump has some idea

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<v Speaker 2>The crap, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>The point is I don't think Trump wants to be

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a possibility that Trump would want to

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<v Speaker 3>To back up Ukraine if he can't he and our

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<v Speaker 3>European allies can't broke or some kind of ceasefire and solution.

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<v Speaker 3>But when Zelensky comes and says I'm I'm for Harris, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of gives Trump a free pass to say

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<v Speaker 4>But at the same time, what does lose Ukraine actually mean?

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<v Speaker 4>And the reason I say that, Steve is I think

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<v Speaker 4>that in this particular case, losing Ukraine a negotiated settlement

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<v Speaker 4>where any territory is lost for the Biden administration is

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<v Speaker 4>a disaster. However, losing some of the territory that probably

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<v Speaker 4>rightfully belongs to Russia anyway in a negotiated settlement Russian

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<v Speaker 4>speaking territories and so on. That's a different story for Trump, right,

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<v Speaker 4>That's a totally different story for Trump. And a promise

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<v Speaker 4>that Ukraine will never ever join NATO. He can do that,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think that that he can actually negotiate a

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<v Speaker 4>settlement that the Biden administration just simply can't get away with.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not even being my usual snarky self against

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<v Speaker 4>a Biden administration. I mean, it's just what they've painted

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<v Speaker 4>themselves into in this particular case. So my only point

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<v Speaker 4>is the options for Trump are more open than they

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<v Speaker 4>are for the Biden administration at this point, in part

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<v Speaker 4>because of what you said, but also in part because

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<v Speaker 4>it's one thing to have a negotiated settlement and all

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<v Speaker 4>those lives lost and billions wasted on both sides, if

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<v Speaker 4>you just kind of go with the status quo. It's

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<v Speaker 4>another thing if you say, Okay, well this is the

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<v Speaker 4>We got to take things away they are and this

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<v Speaker 4>is what we're going to do. That's my thought on it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that makes any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But John, I'll give you the last word on this

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, you know, I mean, Lukrutia made us start out

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<v Speaker 5>hypocrisy what's going on in Ukraine versus Israel. But actually

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<v Speaker 5>it got me thinking there there is a commonality in it,

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<v Speaker 5>which is in both cases, the Biden administration shrinks from

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<v Speaker 5>the bully in the neighborhood, whether it's with Russia, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>not letting Ukraine pursue the war across the order, or

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<v Speaker 5>with Iran letting Iran have billions of dollars in revenue

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<v Speaker 5>from oil sales and then trying to restrain Israel because

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<v Speaker 5>they're afraid that Israel will escalate it and draw Iran

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<v Speaker 5>into a war. But in both cases it's a Biden

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<v Speaker 5>administration being spineless before either Russia or before Iran. They're

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<v Speaker 5>escalating things that they're actually I mean, that's that is

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<v Speaker 5>the commonality, which I think explains why our foreign policy

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<v Speaker 5>is such a mess. And you know, this is one

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<v Speaker 5>where I don't think Harris is going to do much better,

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<v Speaker 5>like at least Trump I think he you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>We won't even go into how all those foreign policy

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<v Speaker 4>elite are are itching for war with a rant. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>just leave that aside. Oh, I agree with you, John,

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<v Speaker 4>but I also think that the further point that needs

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<v Speaker 4>and their spinelessness an explanation for what's happening right now

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<v Speaker 4>and the demand the weird that what seems to be

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<v Speaker 4>the inequitable demand for a ceasefire. Your your explanation is

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely right, but it's also the explanation for how we

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<v Speaker 4>Trump can actually negotiate a settlement where the terms of

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<v Speaker 4>the settlement might be identical for the Biden Harris administration

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<v Speaker 4>and the Trump administration. But Trump could get away with it,

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<v Speaker 3>So well, let's go out an overtime on this subject

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<v Speaker 3>for one more round with this wrinkle. I gather I

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<v Speaker 3>Merrick Garland gave us some comments talking about taking very

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<v Speaker 3>seriously the Iranian threat against President Trump, right assassination plot

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<v Speaker 3>somebody decided, you know, I don't know, send some kind

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure that our foreign policy elite Lucretian wants

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're scared to death of it. But one

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<v Speaker 3>Are scared to death of Trump because he took out

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<v Speaker 3>there what's the Stulamani or whatever his name was, and

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they're also afraid of the United States Navy. And

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<v Speaker 5>so if it really is true that the Iranian if

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<v Speaker 5>we have proof that the Iranians are trying and it's

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<v Speaker 5>not like courtroom proof, we just like know for intelligence

427
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<v Speaker 5>purposes that Iran is trying to kill the major party candidate,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, for the presidency, then we should sink a

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<v Speaker 5>few Iranian naval vessels and blow up some oil platforms. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and they will, and I am sure they will back down. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but if they if we do nothing, then and this

432
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<v Speaker 5>is the story of Iran in the Middle East is

433
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<v Speaker 5>they're bullies. They get away with just pushing and pushing

434
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<v Speaker 5>because no one stands up to them. And if we

435
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<v Speaker 5>don't stand up, and they're just going to continue doing

436
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<v Speaker 5>more of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you could easily see President Trump ordering the destruction

438
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<v Speaker 3>of Iran's Cark Island, you know, oil refiner, and that's

439
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<v Speaker 3>like that's their hub for their oil if you take

440
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<v Speaker 3>that thing out there in deep trouble. And okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>let's take a quick break and then we want to

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<v Speaker 3>get back to I think events in Berkeley.

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<v Speaker 5>This week, John, Yeah, Yeah, why don't we talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all Steve's fault, all right.

445
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<v Speaker 3>So we talked to the Cretia about how Kamala Harris

446
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<v Speaker 3>who was invading her neighborhood for a border stunt. But

447
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<v Speaker 3>then John, you know, I wasn't back yet, so I

448
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<v Speaker 3>missed all the fun. I mean, I was president eight

449
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<v Speaker 3>years ago for the milo Aganapolis riot at Berkeley, but

450
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<v Speaker 3>I missed the.

451
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<v Speaker 2>Fun and games with a stem rough been at the

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<v Speaker 2>law school on Tuesday night. So tell our listeners what

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<v Speaker 2>happened if in case they didn't read my article about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So, first of all, this is a case once

455
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<v Speaker 5>again of Steve. Hey, we're getting me in trouble. Steve,

456
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<v Speaker 5>a fanboy for the Israeli Kanessa, met this very impressive.

457
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<v Speaker 5>We both met him. We caped a was a very

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<v Speaker 5>impressive minister of the Kanessa, Simcha Rothman, who actually as

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<v Speaker 5>an American law degree from Northwestern and he really was

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<v Speaker 5>the I think the real prime mover of the uh

461
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<v Speaker 5>Supreme Court reform bill in Israel that was causing all

462
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<v Speaker 5>the fuss last summer before the the summer before the attacks,

463
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<v Speaker 5>before the October seventh attacks. And so uh we thought, hey,

464
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<v Speaker 5>we should do an event and have him come and

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<v Speaker 5>speak at Berkeley about this, you know, whether the Supreme

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<v Speaker 5>Court in Israel should have its powers curbed. And we

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<v Speaker 5>actually arranged for another very I think outstanding scholar who

468
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<v Speaker 5>clerked on the Israeli Supreme Court named Joshua Kleinfeld, who

469
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<v Speaker 5>just actually moved from Northwestern to George Mason to be

470
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<v Speaker 5>kind of an interlocker tour slash debate partner, and of

471
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<v Speaker 5>course Steve, knowing this would explode, didn't show up, hit out,

472
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<v Speaker 5>fled to a jurisdiction with no extradition treaty with US

473
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<v Speaker 5>like Amsterdam, and so there was I have to say,

474
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<v Speaker 5>so this is the first time my time at the

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<v Speaker 5>law school where a speaker at the law school could

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<v Speaker 5>not actually speak so after about so there are all

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<v Speaker 5>these protesters going on outside and I think they've violated

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<v Speaker 5>a variety of rules by invading the law school building

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, having like a corridor with signs attacking

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<v Speaker 5>Jews and attacking Israel. There were some smaller or smaller

481
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<v Speaker 5>number of pro Israeli protesters, but inside the room for

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<v Speaker 5>about the first fifteen minutes we had we we heard

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<v Speaker 5>from Rothman, and then two people got up and just

484
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<v Speaker 5>started screaming at the top of their.

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<v Speaker 2>Lungs and would not stop.

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<v Speaker 5>They were asked to leave politely, they would not leave.

487
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<v Speaker 2>And this is the problem.

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<v Speaker 5>There were a lot of UC police there. I think

489
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<v Speaker 5>the police chief was there. I think the Vice chancellor

490
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<v Speaker 5>in charge of security was there, and they made the

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<v Speaker 5>decision not to remove these people, not to arrest them,

492
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<v Speaker 5>not to physically remove them. Once you decide to do

493
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<v Speaker 5>that or not to do that, then you'd have a

494
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<v Speaker 5>Heckler's veto. It's impossible to have any event if one

495
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<v Speaker 5>person wants to stand up and scream continuously throughout the event.

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<v Speaker 5>And so then it devolved from there. Then they went

497
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<v Speaker 5>up to the front and took over the podium and

498
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<v Speaker 5>the microphone and started screaming free Palestine in there, and

499
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<v Speaker 5>then it would became impossible. Both speakers had to be

500
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<v Speaker 5>escorted out by the police, and they finished the event

501
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<v Speaker 5>on zoom, which is not acceptable alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought the whole thing was a disaster.

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<v Speaker 5>I think, I mean, I think the I think the

504
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<v Speaker 5>First Amendment got well trampled on by these I think

505
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<v Speaker 5>anti Sismic. I don't think they're anti Zionists. I think

506
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:12.480
<v Speaker 5>they're anti Semitic protesters, and the university failed in its

507
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<v Speaker 5>duty to make sure that people are able to speak well.

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's almost an almost comical aspect to this that

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<v Speaker 3>I picked up on from a couple of news accounts

510
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<v Speaker 3>and also the number of videos that were sent to

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<v Speaker 3>me by some of the students who you and I know,

512
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<v Speaker 3>and one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Is is that there were a number of left wing

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<v Speaker 2>Jews who don't like Natan Yahoo showed up to disagree

515
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<v Speaker 2>with Rothman and vigorously disagree with him, but we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to allow him to speak. They were the ones who got.

517
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<v Speaker 3>Tickets to the event, and before the event actually started,

518
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<v Speaker 3>they had a long argument with Rothman entirely in Hebrew.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I've got some videos.

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<v Speaker 5>This is very this is very interesting. So I actually,

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<v Speaker 5>I actually I like this part of Israeli culture. So

522
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:55.319
<v Speaker 5>I taught in Israel. It's a very funny experience. So

523
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<v Speaker 5>like you'll talk and the students will just enter, start

524
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<v Speaker 5>interjecting and just be like, wow, why, Like you might

525
00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:05.359
<v Speaker 5>say yellow. Abraham's labor color was yellow, They'll be like

526
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:07.799
<v Speaker 5>why why they're Lincoln like yellow? What is yellow?

527
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Anyway?

528
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:11.160
<v Speaker 5>And they'll start arguing with you, you know, directly. So

529
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<v Speaker 5>that's actually what was going on in the first fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 5>Like roth would say something and then in Hebrew one

531
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<v Speaker 5>of these people was saying it would clearly say something

532
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<v Speaker 5>like why do you think that? Or show us the proof?

533
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<v Speaker 5>And they do.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's what like, that's what I saw in Israel.

535
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<v Speaker 2>Like that's even.

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<v Speaker 5>Normal speech in Israel. It was only when these two

537
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<v Speaker 5>disruptors got up and started yelling and screaming that I

538
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<v Speaker 5>think actually the event was going to end. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think these people yellow, you know, yelling out questions from

540
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<v Speaker 5>the audience in Hebrew, were really disrupting and didn't want

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<v Speaker 5>to try to disrupt event.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I mean, they were gonna let go for it,

543
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:46.839
<v Speaker 3>but they wanted to be heard to object to Rothmann,

544
00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 3>that you know. But then I mean, again, the accounts

545
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<v Speaker 3>I gather is that, you know, I don't know, I

546
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<v Speaker 3>hesitate to say naive liberal Jews, but you had these

547
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<v Speaker 3>prohomous people, people who are anti Semites, full stuff, right, and.

548
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<v Speaker 2>They're in there yelling and screaming, and I heard all

549
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<v Speaker 2>they started left wing juic saying, but we agree with you,

550
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>why are you yelling at us on your side? And

551
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<v Speaker 2>so you know, he answered the three sided comedy going on,

552
00:29:11.400 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 2>where yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>They're like, those guys are kind of like we went

554
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<v Speaker 5>a free Palestine too, Why are you yelling at us

555
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:18.160
<v Speaker 5>that we're for.

556
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<v Speaker 2>A two state solution?

557
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<v Speaker 6>Right? Yeah?

558
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>And then someone pulled the fire alarm and that that

559
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<v Speaker 2>was at that point it's and.

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<v Speaker 5>Then oh yeah, that's right, then the fire alarm was pulled,

561
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<v Speaker 5>But it was I thought I was embarrassed on behalf

562
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<v Speaker 5>of this university, of which you know, you and I

563
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 5>are both apart. That you can't have a legitimate speaker,

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<v Speaker 5>a minister of a parliament of a foreign country, right, yeah,

565
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<v Speaker 5>and an important one too, can't give a speech on campus.

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<v Speaker 5>That's embarrassment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe he should have just denounced started out by denouncing

569
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<v Speaker 4>Amy Wax and then he would have been.

570
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<v Speaker 2>Ah, well that's next to Trump.

571
00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:58.359
<v Speaker 5>Maybe he should have denounced Trump and then he would

572
00:29:58.359 --> 00:29:59.720
<v Speaker 5>have gotten a good fair earring.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it wouldn't have worked. Now here's the question.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. I talked to people from the administration about this,

575
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<v Speaker 5>and they're like, well, we can't if we use the

576
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<v Speaker 5>police to try to remove these people. It's almost like

577
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<v Speaker 5>they're like repeating the words of the Biden administration. There

578
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<v Speaker 5>might be an escalation, and we don't want an escalation

579
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<v Speaker 5>because people will get hurt. And if people, you know,

580
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<v Speaker 5>they're afraid of what you know was shown happening at

581
00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:30.839
<v Speaker 5>UCLA and Colombia in the suiting that you'll get open

582
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<v Speaker 5>fighting between pro and anti Israel protesters. But the problem

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<v Speaker 5>is yes, that's a legitimate fear, but you're sacrificing the

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<v Speaker 5>First Amendment, Adam.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I just mention John that maybe I'm a little

586
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<v Speaker 4>more cynical about it that that that concern You'll probably

587
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<v Speaker 4>be surprised, but that concern is actually a cover not

588
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<v Speaker 4>for not caring about the First Amendment. Leaves that aside.

589
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<v Speaker 4>But I noticed in the Steve and I get these

590
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<v Speaker 4>wrap ups of the all the circuit court cases for

591
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<v Speaker 4>the week, and I've noticed a common trend that Ninth

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<v Speaker 4>Circuit especially has refused to grant qualified immunity to police

593
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<v Speaker 4>of any kind at University, police, police in Seattle, police

594
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:25.519
<v Speaker 4>here and there who acted with what might be considered

595
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:30.480
<v Speaker 4>excessive force against the George Floyd rioters. And you know,

596
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.440
<v Speaker 4>our courts are are are pretty pretty quick to grant

597
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:37.759
<v Speaker 4>qualified immunity in the most egregious of cases, in my opinion,

598
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 4>but in every case I've read. Now, that's anecdotal, and

599
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:44.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't even think it makes data, Steve, but it

600
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:49.960
<v Speaker 4>just seems to me like they are continu continuously refusing

601
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<v Speaker 4>to protect police who acted in the midst of those

602
00:31:54.039 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 4>riots in ways. I mean, the case I read today

603
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<v Speaker 4>was somebody who got shot in the eye the rubber bullet,

604
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 4>and the Ninth Circuit upheld a jury finding that the

605
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:12.680
<v Speaker 4>police officer who said he couldn't know what he was

606
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:17.440
<v Speaker 4>shooting into did it on purpose and a million dollar

607
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:21.279
<v Speaker 4>damages or something like that. No qualified immunity upheld it.

608
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 4>So maybe I mean, I'm not really making excuses for them.

609
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<v Speaker 4>But until we get to the point where we say,

610
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<v Speaker 4>you riot, you deserve everything you get up to and

611
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:38.839
<v Speaker 4>including arrest, disbarment, disenrollment, expulsion, all of the other things.

612
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:41.880
<v Speaker 4>What do you call it when you said them out

613
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:45.240
<v Speaker 4>of the country, deportation, all of that. We need to

614
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<v Speaker 4>be able to do that and have it upheld, and

615
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<v Speaker 4>then I think police might be a little bit less hesitant,

616
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<v Speaker 4>especially police at a place like Berkeley, to be to

617
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<v Speaker 4>defend the First Amendment the way it should be defended.

618
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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I'm wrong, but that was just my thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me give a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little background and then a concluding point about why this

621
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<v Speaker 3>episode is significant for the next month because of the

622
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<v Speaker 3>anniversary of October seven coming up. So you know, I

623
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<v Speaker 3>remember after the Mile of Unopolis riots got out of

624
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<v Speaker 3>hand back in twenty seventeen, and it turned out there

625
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<v Speaker 3>were one hundred and fifty police inside Zellerbach Auditorium who

626
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<v Speaker 3>were told to stand down and stay there. And I

627
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<v Speaker 3>talked to somebody. That was when Chancellor Nick Dirks was

628
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<v Speaker 3>in office, and he was a liberal loon.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a fool, yeah, a total fool.

630
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<v Speaker 3>But I talked to somebody on his staff who's not

631
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<v Speaker 3>a fool but a liberal. But and I said, well,

632
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<v Speaker 3>you know, come on, you got to tell me what's

633
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<v Speaker 3>the deal here. And he said, well, we were out numbered,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know the police will tell you. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>this is probably right. I think I mentioned this before

636
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<v Speaker 3>that you don't want to be out numbered in the

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<v Speaker 3>case of a riot because it'll go badly for the

638
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<v Speaker 3>police and everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to have a ratio of superiority of the police.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's when his successor, Carol Chris said, Carol Chris said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, my Ben Shapiro is going to come. He

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<v Speaker 3>is going to speak and I don't care how much

643
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<v Speaker 3>it costs and how many law enforcement we have to have.

644
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<v Speaker 3>And and because Antifa said they were going to shut

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<v Speaker 3>that down, and Carol, you got I know people talking

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<v Speaker 3>to her. She said, we are going to regain control

647
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<v Speaker 3>of our campus. Period full stop, and she carried it off,

648
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<v Speaker 3>and the left complained bitterly about Chancellor Christs.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's the point, is is that, all right?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe the law school didn't take seriously the threat to

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<v Speaker 3>Rothman from protesters. I don't know why you've been so

652
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<v Speaker 3>foolish as to think there wouldn't have been this kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a problem and have similarly ordered sufficient security to

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<v Speaker 3>rouse anybody disrupting that hallway.

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<v Speaker 2>We are now coming up. But this is open.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the leftists are saying the week of October seven,

657
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<v Speaker 3>they're going to disrupt campuses all over the country, disrupt cities.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to probably blockade highways they've imagined.

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<v Speaker 5>And imagine if if Israel just killed the head of

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<v Speaker 5>hezbe a Lot today, right and presses a military which

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<v Speaker 5>I'm off for that too, yeah, Lucasia and presses an

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<v Speaker 5>offensive into southern Lebanon, Right, Like that's gonna that'll just

663
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<v Speaker 5>be compound how crazy they were going to be anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder though, there is that we talked about a

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<v Speaker 4>bit last time, John, that element of fake machoism on

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<v Speaker 4>their part. If they're utterly defeated, then maybe they don't

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<v Speaker 4>feel quite as much like the bullies. That was my

668
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<v Speaker 4>first point. My second point is, why don't we hire

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<v Speaker 4>some damn Spartans to be university police and send them

670
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<v Speaker 4>into the Battle of the Mebley and just say, come on,

671
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<v Speaker 4>you cowards, if you're outnumbered, well for.

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<v Speaker 5>The football team. Let's get the football team out there.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys may be thinking about the Roman Empire. I

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<v Speaker 4>I'm female, I gotta go a little different direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, all right, Lucrisia mentioned Amy wax Let's take up

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<v Speaker 2>that and the wider implications of all that. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>after this very brief time out for or a sponsor,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, this week we got I think what.

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<v Speaker 3>Was a totally unsurprising, perhaps ruling out of the University

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<v Speaker 3>of Pennsylvania suspending Amy wax forer year, cutting her salary

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<v Speaker 3>in half, stripping her of her name chair, cutting off

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<v Speaker 3>her summer funds, but not stripping her of tenure, and

683
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<v Speaker 3>firing her, which is what I'm sure that they really

684
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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do. So they're doubly cowards. And I don't know,

685
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<v Speaker 3>you know, I've been the one who's been saying, gosh,

686
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<v Speaker 3>things may be turning around. I saw a complaint this

687
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<v Speaker 3>week from the left that darn Harvard. You know, five

688
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<v Speaker 3>of the top seven positions now at Harvard are white males.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the whole DEI mentality is not going quietly

690
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<v Speaker 3>into this good night. And you would have thought that

691
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<v Speaker 3>Penn would have backed off of Professor Wax after their

692
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<v Speaker 3>disgrace of their president last year and anti Semitism, but no,

693
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<v Speaker 3>they went full speed ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'll add this democracy really doesn't bother them, No

696
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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>But let me let me add one other thing that

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<v Speaker 3>emerged this week, and I think it came from Amy.

699
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<v Speaker 3>It was revealed by Aaron Sabarium at the Free Beacon newspaper,

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<v Speaker 3>and she had to have gotten the documents from Wax

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<v Speaker 3>and information from Professor Wax that the.

702
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<v Speaker 2>University tried to settle with her saying all right, well

703
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<v Speaker 2>you know we won't.

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<v Speaker 3>We will. You can keep everything if you'll just sign

705
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<v Speaker 3>a non disparagement clause and won't criticize the university. And

706
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<v Speaker 3>I thought, you know, if they added a couple of

707
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<v Speaker 3>zeros to that settlement offer, and maybe you'd take it.

708
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<v Speaker 3>And she told him to go pound sand and which

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<v Speaker 3>I think was great of her.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, I have it on good authority that

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<v Speaker 5>if she if the NBA provision is in there, which

712
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<v Speaker 5>seems very strange for a university, Yes, of all places.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I could see, like, you know, a corporation,

714
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<v Speaker 5>but a university once one of its to not exercise

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<v Speaker 5>their free speech.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>You know that that she was unwilling to accept any

718
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<v Speaker 5>settlement agreement, no matter how much money was attached, if

719
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<v Speaker 5>it required her not to be able to talk about

720
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<v Speaker 5>the whole affair she's been through.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, come on, if if if just like you say,

722
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<v Speaker 4>a couple of extra zeros is enough to make you say,

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<v Speaker 4>never mind the principles that I've sacrificed myself for for

724
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<v Speaker 4>the last how many years it's been.

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<v Speaker 2>Now too, a year and a half, Yeah, much longer

726
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<v Speaker 2>than that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but yeah, I think it's been going on pre COVID,

728
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<v Speaker 7>start before COVID, you know, and she never honestly we

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<v Speaker 7>know what she said.

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<v Speaker 4>We have, you know, their their version of what she said,

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<v Speaker 4>her version of what she said. That nobody's uh denying

732
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<v Speaker 4>what was actually said by her, nothing of which anybody

733
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<v Speaker 4>who knows anything about higher education can possibly find objectionable.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Uh, why are they so afraid?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm i mean, this is the other thing, is she

736
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<v Speaker 5>is clearly being singled out for her ideology or her viewpoint,

737
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<v Speaker 5>because I mean, you have people who believe it in

738
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<v Speaker 5>all this critical race theory stuff, who say all white

739
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<v Speaker 5>people are racist. They say all that, they say it

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<v Speaker 5>in print, or they'll say, oh, there's structural racism. They

741
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<v Speaker 5>will accuse universities, they'll accuse white colleagues of being racist,

742
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:26.719
<v Speaker 5>and nothing happens to them, right, Sometimes they get promoted,

743
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:30.039
<v Speaker 5>as far as I can tell. But it's so obviously

744
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<v Speaker 5>about the content of what she's saying, and I just

745
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<v Speaker 5>it's it's so she I hope she sues, I hope

746
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<v Speaker 5>she sees, and I hope she wins.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And it's not just the content, it's specific content

748
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<v Speaker 4>that is the worst of all. It's a little it's

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<v Speaker 4>Amy Wax is the Clarence Thomas of the law profession,

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<v Speaker 4>right she And I think the reason that they pick

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<v Speaker 4>on her especially is because they think they can get

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<v Speaker 4>away with it because she's Jewish, right, I swear I

753
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<v Speaker 4>think that's the truth, because you'd think that after everything,

754
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<v Speaker 4>all the humiliation they went through, that they'd be treading

755
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<v Speaker 4>just a little bit more softly on this one, but

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<v Speaker 4>they're sure not. And she's the worst because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>at least until recently, Jewish law professors could claim some

758
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<v Speaker 4>sort of victim status. She never did, of course, but

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<v Speaker 4>that was but now that's just unacceptable, can we You know,

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<v Speaker 4>Jews are whites now and they're oh, you know, guilty

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<v Speaker 4>of racism. But the things that she said are they

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<v Speaker 4>believe targeted against groups?

763
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<v Speaker 5>True or not.

764
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<v Speaker 4>They make groups feel bad, certain marginalized groups might feel bad.

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<v Speaker 4>But she pointed out that her top students quite simply

766
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<v Speaker 4>were not black. Very few. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. She

767
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<v Speaker 4>never said none, she just said very few. And of

768
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<v Speaker 4>course that's because of affirmative action and bad policies like that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's not necessarily that there aren't smart blacks

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<v Speaker 4>out there, but you know, your pen is a little

771
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<v Speaker 4>bit lower. The smarter blacks are going to go elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's just not enough of them to go around

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<v Speaker 4>at these premier universities because you know, because they're only

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<v Speaker 4>twelve percent of the total population. Right, it's just the

775
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<v Speaker 4>circular on this whole thing. But anyway, she was never

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<v Speaker 4>being racist, you know, she was just commenting.

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<v Speaker 5>Look. The other thing is, you know, she has said

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<v Speaker 5>things which are alleged to be critical of Asians. So

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<v Speaker 5>she said something like, we have too many, too much

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<v Speaker 5>Asian immigrations. I mean I don't find it a problem

781
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<v Speaker 5>for someone to ask that question and be proven wrong

782
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<v Speaker 5>if she's wrong, but you know, to fire her for

783
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<v Speaker 5>ask saying something like that, I mean that undercuts the

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think there's too much Asian immigration. It's the

785
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<v Speaker 5>Germans and the polls we got to worry about.

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<v Speaker 6>But no, just kidding, of course, but we don't want Irish.

787
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<v Speaker 6>But it's like, why can't she like, why can't.

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<v Speaker 5>She say that that's the So what if Asians are offended?

789
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<v Speaker 2>So what grow up?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, for want Asians to be coddled and protected from people,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, taking you know, sounding opinions which may be

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<v Speaker 5>critical of Asian immigration. All right, So like then we

793
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<v Speaker 5>can have a discussion of how much immigration should there

794
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<v Speaker 5>be and why is it problematic?

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<v Speaker 4>And is it problematic?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Cultures are cultures and they bring and recalled.

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<v Speaker 5>Like the thing that started recall, I think the thing

799
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<v Speaker 5>that started this all off was that she wrote a

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<v Speaker 5>piece with Larry Alexander pritical theory. Guy, what do you

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<v Speaker 5>guys saying that saying something like, you know that my

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<v Speaker 5>minority groups are inner city family should follow the ath

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<v Speaker 5>that worked in the nineteen fifties, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>get married, graduate from high school, get a job, and

805
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<v Speaker 5>then have kids. And that was seen as somehow racist

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<v Speaker 5>because she referenced the nineteen fifties positively, or she said

807
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<v Speaker 5>something like this is sort of the Anglo American formula

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<v Speaker 5>for success, and all their groups should do it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah and right, Yeah, that offensive.

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<v Speaker 5>They're also social scientists who think that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean that was the moan that was the

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<v Speaker 3>moynihan report of nineteen seventy five, by the way, that

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<v Speaker 3>that what that's I forget, I forget the label.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the success sequence.

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<v Speaker 3>But one of the persons who was a big champion

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<v Speaker 3>of that point of view in the Clinton years was

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<v Speaker 3>Bill Colston, who was you know, special advisor and in

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<v Speaker 3>house intellectual, you know, democrat student of Alan Bloom. He's

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<v Speaker 3>one of the only sort of liberals who was a

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<v Speaker 3>student out of the Strauss blue world of Chicago.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know Bill of something and and but he

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Crystal, Bill Colston, Bill.

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<v Speaker 4>The only one over.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, but I'm sorry Lucretia was making fun of Bill

826
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<v Speaker 5>still there.

827
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<v Speaker 2>Shooting fishing.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I think part of what I think, part of

829
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<v Speaker 3>what's going on here, and we'll segue to a related topic,

830
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<v Speaker 3>is they wanted to make an example out of Amy

831
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<v Speaker 3>Wax because if they didn't, other people might start saying

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<v Speaker 3>what she said exactly. And and you know, I think

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<v Speaker 3>I keep coming back to this, and I actually I've

834
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<v Speaker 3>got a whole series of articles I want to write

835
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<v Speaker 3>actually from my new Substack site called liberal fragility. Right,

836
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<v Speaker 3>we've had this whole white fragility from that Robin DiAngelo fraud.

837
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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's really true of liberals is that

838
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<v Speaker 3>they are very fragile, insecure people, easily threatened. And boy,

839
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<v Speaker 3>if you don't stop, you don't shut up Amy Wax,

840
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<v Speaker 3>other people might start saying the same thing, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Leads to the way go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Since you guys are so bad at promoting yourselves, what

843
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<v Speaker 5>is the substack thing? You know? We tie less without you.

844
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<v Speaker 5>We talked about Lucretia's posting on subsect. I was like,

845
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.559
<v Speaker 5>what is the substack? Why am I not in it?

846
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:54.559
<v Speaker 5>Why are you two guys in it? When you should

847
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:55.320
<v Speaker 5>anybody read it?

848
00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:57.840
<v Speaker 4>John?

849
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.840
<v Speaker 5>But No, I didn't know. I didn't know about the subset.

850
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:04.079
<v Speaker 2>You guys got to promote the hell out. Well, we're just.

851
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Getting started, John, and we already. Actually I'm as well.

852
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.440
<v Speaker 3>We started own substack called Political Questions.

853
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:11.480
<v Speaker 2>That's the title for now.

854
00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:13.920
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I think, John, it might become the

855
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.960
<v Speaker 3>substack for a certain institution in Texas.

856
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:20.400
<v Speaker 2>That you and I were talking to. Figuring you guys

857
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>are totally leading.

858
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:26.360
<v Speaker 3>I know you're invited. You're totally invited to participate it.

859
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:29.679
<v Speaker 3>But I'll say I'll tell you more about substack later.

860
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:32.159
<v Speaker 2>But uh, the point is this.

861
00:45:32.400 --> 00:45:32.480
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

862
00:45:32.920 --> 00:45:37.880
<v Speaker 3>The other related story I think to the Wax episode is, uh,

863
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:43.039
<v Speaker 3>you had several the elite universities release their demographics for

864
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.079
<v Speaker 3>their incoming class, the first new class since the Harvard decision.

865
00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:50.239
<v Speaker 2>And I think you have Duke and Princeton and I

866
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 2>forget who Brown and maybe Penn boasting that, oh, we

867
00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:56.159
<v Speaker 2>have this terrifically diverse class.

868
00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:59.760
<v Speaker 3>And Asian admissions actually went down in a couple of

869
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:04.159
<v Speaker 3>minutes institutions, uh, and Hispanic and Black admissions stayed the

870
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:05.400
<v Speaker 3>same or went up a little bit.

871
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:08.679
<v Speaker 2>So the question is you guys all said to the

872
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court in Harvard case.

873
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:13.239
<v Speaker 3>Without affirmative action and allowing to take race into account,

874
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.119
<v Speaker 3>we can't have a diverse student body.

875
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:18.000
<v Speaker 2>And now you're boasting that you have a diverse student

876
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:22.599
<v Speaker 2>body where you and Steve were you lying to the

877
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:26.519
<v Speaker 2>court last year or are you cheating now are?

878
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:28.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

879
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:32.360
<v Speaker 5>That piece Jason Riley wrote a piece in the Wallstreet

880
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:34.760
<v Speaker 5>Journal called me for my comments, and I didn't know

881
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:36.639
<v Speaker 5>he was going to take the comments and use them,

882
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:38.280
<v Speaker 5>but I think when I read them, I was like

883
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:40.920
<v Speaker 5>they were kind of colorful. But I'm just like, it's

884
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:45.119
<v Speaker 5>like everybody knows, right, Like everyone in higher education knows

885
00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.840
<v Speaker 5>that they're still using race. Everyone knows they're cheating.

886
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:49.000
<v Speaker 2>They know they're cheating.

887
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.559
<v Speaker 5>They just don't want to get caught cheating. Yeah, everyone

888
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:55.599
<v Speaker 5>knows you can't produce those numbers without cheating.

889
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.480
<v Speaker 4>I could provide you, guys from my inbox for the

890
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:04.679
<v Speaker 4>last week with one hundred emails on how to cheat

891
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 4>that way, honest to God, That come from consultants, that

892
00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:14.000
<v Speaker 4>come from you know, there's god awful higher education consortium

893
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:19.920
<v Speaker 4>groups and all those other places Admissions officers, higher Chronicle

894
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:23.199
<v Speaker 4>of Higher Education. Yeah, let's figure out how we do

895
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 4>holistic reviews right, so that we can make sure that

896
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:33.039
<v Speaker 4>we get the right people admitted and not let the

897
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.280
<v Speaker 4>wrong people in and not call it because of race.

898
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:41.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just ridiculous. There's my own enrollment. Central

899
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:48.639
<v Speaker 4>Enrollment Processing Unit now spends thirty pages of annotations on

900
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:54.719
<v Speaker 4>any student who a prospective student who applies, who doesn't

901
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:59.079
<v Speaker 4>meet the threshold of a three point zero and wants

902
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:03.000
<v Speaker 4>to get in any way, there's this thirty page thing

903
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:05.840
<v Speaker 4>that they have to go through before they deny them

904
00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:06.800
<v Speaker 4>if they're a.

905
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Person of color.

906
00:48:08.599 --> 00:48:12.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this reminds me if you remember when Stanford put

907
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.199
<v Speaker 5>out the list of words you weren't allowed to use.

908
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:19.159
<v Speaker 5>Remember we had our contest to use them all, Like, yeah,

909
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:21.440
<v Speaker 5>we're like use thirty of them within like the first

910
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:24.639
<v Speaker 5>thirty seconds of the program. And she wasn't even trying everybody,

911
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:26.280
<v Speaker 5>she was just talking. She didn't even know there was

912
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 5>a contest. She didn't even know there was a contest.

913
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:30.760
<v Speaker 5>But what we should do is we should put out

914
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.360
<v Speaker 5>a document of all the words you should use in

915
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:36.079
<v Speaker 5>your application essays to get into college.

916
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I could do that.

917
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:40.599
<v Speaker 5>Actually, the list it would be the exact reverse of

918
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:44.039
<v Speaker 5>the bad words from Stanford, Well to be all of.

919
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:48.000
<v Speaker 4>Their suggested ones. John, remember their suggestions.

920
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:50.400
<v Speaker 5>Yes, well, I think yeah, that's right, the alternatives, that's

921
00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:51.360
<v Speaker 5>where they were agreed.

922
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:54.360
<v Speaker 3>But here's a callback on this. I'm pretty sure we

923
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:57.719
<v Speaker 3>mentioned that could when the Harvard case was decided. This

924
00:48:57.920 --> 00:49:00.239
<v Speaker 3>is going to be like Brown versus Board of Education. Yes,

925
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:05.440
<v Speaker 3>the Democrat run South engaged in massive resistance, and today

926
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:07.960
<v Speaker 3>our Democrat run universities.

927
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:09.199
<v Speaker 2>Are engaging in massive resistance.

928
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:13.079
<v Speaker 3>Now, what was required after Brown was years and years

929
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.119
<v Speaker 3>of follow up litigation and God bless him, our hero

930
00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:20.719
<v Speaker 3>behind the Harvard case, Edward bloom Is, written letters to

931
00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.480
<v Speaker 3>all the universities saying you're on notice, and by the way,

932
00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.320
<v Speaker 3>you better preserve your documents because there's going to be discovery.

933
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:29.519
<v Speaker 2>You sob and Melsing only slightly. I mean I know

934
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:31.519
<v Speaker 2>you know Edward, somebody I know it pretty well.

935
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:33.719
<v Speaker 5>No, No, I mean it's going to take a lot

936
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 5>of lawsuits in litigation, right, people, even though even though

937
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:40.760
<v Speaker 5>the super majorities of the American people are against the

938
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:42.719
<v Speaker 5>use of race, so they're going to have to pressure

939
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.039
<v Speaker 5>their elected officials to stop doing this. And it's not

940
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:49.440
<v Speaker 5>just universities where this ideology is really rooted is in

941
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:53.079
<v Speaker 5>k through twelve teachers. We've all gone through these graduate

942
00:49:53.119 --> 00:49:55.960
<v Speaker 5>schools of education where they've been taught to get rid

943
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:59.760
<v Speaker 5>of merit and intellectually excellence and replace it with this diversity.

944
00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:04.199
<v Speaker 4>In the difference, can I just say really quickly, Steve,

945
00:50:04.280 --> 00:50:07.920
<v Speaker 4>here's the difference between the resistance to Brown and the

946
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:13.639
<v Speaker 4>resistance to the Harvard case. In Brown, the resistance was

947
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:21.079
<v Speaker 4>based upon prejudice, real acknowledged prejudice. There wasn't anybody in

948
00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:25.119
<v Speaker 4>the South arguing against Brown versus Board of Education arguing

949
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:27.960
<v Speaker 4>for impeaching or Warren or any of those things who

950
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:32.519
<v Speaker 4>didn't say it's because I believe ect right. They didn't

951
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.119
<v Speaker 4>hide their views, they didn't pretend that they were something

952
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:38.480
<v Speaker 4>other than what they are. What you said about Amy Wax,

953
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:42.320
<v Speaker 4>the emperor has no clothes on. If anybody hears Amy

954
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:44.480
<v Speaker 4>Wax say that and think that they can get away

955
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 4>with it, the whole edifice call false. It's everything you

956
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:50.840
<v Speaker 4>always say about the left, Steve. I hate to give

957
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:53.760
<v Speaker 4>you this much credit, but you're right here.

958
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:54.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll take it.

959
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:58.679
<v Speaker 4>That is that just even thinking about Kamalama ding Dong's

960
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:02.800
<v Speaker 4>speech today in Douglas Arizona, where she's pretending like she's

961
00:51:02.920 --> 00:51:07.119
<v Speaker 4>the toughest borders are that ever walk the planet. She

962
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.119
<v Speaker 4>doesn't believe any of that nonsense, not one word of it.

963
00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:15.079
<v Speaker 4>But it's necessary for the left to lie, It's necessary

964
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.639
<v Speaker 4>for the left to dissemble, It's necessary for them to

965
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:20.599
<v Speaker 4>be disingenuous and hope that people don't catch them at it.

966
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:23.280
<v Speaker 4>And when somebody like Amy Wax comes along and says,

967
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:27.320
<v Speaker 4>here's the truth of the matter, folks, it's devastating to them.

968
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:32.039
<v Speaker 4>They're not just fragile. They are threatened. Yeah, everything is threatened.

969
00:51:32.119 --> 00:51:35.639
<v Speaker 4>You cannot you cannot call the emperor naked whatever you do.

970
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:38.320
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's the difference. I don't disagree with

971
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:41.199
<v Speaker 4>your analogy. I just think that's an important point to

972
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:44.480
<v Speaker 4>point out. Let the left tell the truth for a change.

973
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:47.960
<v Speaker 4>Let them come out before the voters. Said this to

974
00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:52.280
<v Speaker 4>John last week. Let Kamala Kamalama ding Dong come out

975
00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:55.079
<v Speaker 4>before the voters, tell the truth about what she believes,

976
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:59.840
<v Speaker 4>what her values truly are. Defend them or have somebody

977
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:01.400
<v Speaker 4>we know she can't defend.

978
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Of course they will.

979
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.400
<v Speaker 5>I mean, of course they were just like with affirmative action.

980
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.000
<v Speaker 5>They know that great dry American people are against it.

981
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:11.400
<v Speaker 5>They don't want to honestly say we do want to

982
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:14.119
<v Speaker 5>use race to produce these outcomes. That they hide it

983
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:18.320
<v Speaker 5>behind this allegedly, or we're just creating, you know, diversity

984
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:20.880
<v Speaker 5>of viewpoint and it's the same thing.

985
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Right, Kama was not going to.

986
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:25.880
<v Speaker 5>Go out and explain her real values. Right, they don't

987
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:27.920
<v Speaker 5>think these are the people who came up with the

988
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:29.920
<v Speaker 5>idea of the noble lie in the first place.

989
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:34.400
<v Speaker 4>Can I ask you just really quock question. I know

990
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:37.360
<v Speaker 4>we want to move on, Steve, but do you think

991
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:42.079
<v Speaker 4>that you know the there's a lot of talk around

992
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.480
<v Speaker 4>my circles. I guess you could say that the reason

993
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 4>that they're so bent on destroying K twelve education, higher

994
00:52:49.000 --> 00:52:54.519
<v Speaker 4>education is of course, what they want is a an uneducated, unthinking,

995
00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:59.800
<v Speaker 4>incapable of critical thinking populous, so that that populace can

996
00:52:59.840 --> 00:53:03.800
<v Speaker 4>be much better controlled. That's the sort of tinfoil conspiracy

997
00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:11.239
<v Speaker 4>view of hard right conservatives about about our system of education. Yeah, yeah, right,

998
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:16.920
<v Speaker 4>But my point is, in order to how do I

999
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:20.159
<v Speaker 4>say this? You don't put Clarence Thomas in a class

1000
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:24.960
<v Speaker 4>on critical race theory and expect him to be propagandized

1001
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.559
<v Speaker 4>or have his mind, you know, sort of shaped by

1002
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:34.199
<v Speaker 4>this and no questions asked. So but if you promote

1003
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.639
<v Speaker 4>up people who weren't ever taught how to think, you

1004
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.360
<v Speaker 4>don't force them into the LSAT or something else that

1005
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:44.239
<v Speaker 4>might actually show their propensity for critical thinking, then you

1006
00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:48.039
<v Speaker 4>have them much You have a much more easily brainwashed

1007
00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:52.639
<v Speaker 4>student body, and they become much more compliant, much more

1008
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:58.199
<v Speaker 4>willing to go along with pro Hamas propaganda, pro government propaganda,

1009
00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:01.880
<v Speaker 4>pro climate change aganda, you name it. Anyway, there's my

1010
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:05.000
<v Speaker 4>conspiracy theory for the day, because I know listeners would

1011
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.159
<v Speaker 4>be very upset if I didn't offer at least one

1012
00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:08.920
<v Speaker 4>good conspiracy.

1013
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:10.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

1014
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:12.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know either. I mean the deception. You're right

1015
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.039
<v Speaker 2>about the deceptions of the left. I think it may

1016
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.920
<v Speaker 2>be simpler that they're just actually that stupid and believe

1017
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:20.320
<v Speaker 2>in the ideology of victimology. Yeah, I think they just

1018
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:20.840
<v Speaker 2>believe it.

1019
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:25.760
<v Speaker 4>They Yeah, well, listeners, I want I want to vote

1020
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:26.280
<v Speaker 4>on this one.

1021
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:30.239
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, speaking of voting, and we're almost out of time,

1022
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:31.960
<v Speaker 3>and let me just mention a couple of quick facts

1023
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:33.519
<v Speaker 3>that I think are curious and we'll come back to this,

1024
00:54:33.559 --> 00:54:35.119
<v Speaker 3>because of course, the election is going.

1025
00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.320
<v Speaker 2>The polls are volatile. It's dumb to follow them day

1026
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:40.880
<v Speaker 2>to day. But there are two things of interest that

1027
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:42.239
<v Speaker 2>came to my attention this week.

1028
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:47.320
<v Speaker 3>One is, oh, news out of your state, Arizona, Lucretia,

1029
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:51.480
<v Speaker 3>is that what some jurisdictions sent out two thousand duplicate ballots?

1030
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:51.559
<v Speaker 4>You?

1031
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Ah, this is the big cheat is in the Maybe.

1032
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:58.519
<v Speaker 2>But here's an interesting thing that there are fifty.

1033
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:03.239
<v Speaker 3>Million mail in votes ballots out already, but it turns

1034
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:05.440
<v Speaker 3>out that twenty million of those are here in California,

1035
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:08.239
<v Speaker 3>which is not a state that sent right. Yeah, and

1036
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:11.360
<v Speaker 3>and now the interesting thing is the number of ballots

1037
00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:13.239
<v Speaker 3>and early voting started in a lot of states. The

1038
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:16.159
<v Speaker 3>number of ballots that have been turned in is amazingly small,

1039
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:20.800
<v Speaker 3>under one hundred thousand in Pennsylvania. And I don't know

1040
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.320
<v Speaker 3>if people are now the Lucretia will probably say people

1041
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:24.159
<v Speaker 3>are undecided.

1042
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:26.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know.

1043
00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:28.039
<v Speaker 2>If that's it. I have a bunch of theories about this.

1044
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:30.199
<v Speaker 2>But the point is is that we're not seeing a

1045
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:34.159
<v Speaker 2>lot of votes being banked early like we saw in

1046
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:37.159
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty. And they'll pay attention to all this, but

1047
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:40.000
<v Speaker 2>it's the point is that it does look like, we're

1048
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:43.280
<v Speaker 2>not right now and still early in some ways, but

1049
00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:43.639
<v Speaker 2>we're not.

1050
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:47.599
<v Speaker 3>We're not seeing necessarily a rerun of twenty twenty, but

1051
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:50.320
<v Speaker 3>we'll pay attention. The second thing is on a macro

1052
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:53.599
<v Speaker 3>level news out or data out this week from Gallup

1053
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:57.320
<v Speaker 3>and a couple others, for the first time since before

1054
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:03.239
<v Speaker 3>the Great Depression, so almost eighty years ago, UH, voters

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<v Speaker 3>identifying as Republicans outnumber voters identifying as Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>And normally have been going on for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, by the way, one of the states where Republican

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<v Speaker 3>registration is surging is Pennsylvania. And yeah, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you if you go back to UH, if you go

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<v Speaker 3>back to the last you know, ten elections presidential election cycles,

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<v Speaker 3>that partisans split of people's declared party preference has tracked

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<v Speaker 3>pretty closely to the popular vote. And so, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>and we know that the polls have now in free

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<v Speaker 3>elections in a row or two election last two.

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<v Speaker 2>Elections have understated Trump's support. It's driving posters crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And so all these polls that show Trump even maybe

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<v Speaker 3>down a point or two. I mean, let's remember the

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<v Speaker 3>real average, real Color Politics average of polls, which is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of the best way to throw all the soup together.

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<v Speaker 3>Had Biden leading by six seven points any he won

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<v Speaker 3>by three in the popular vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I was you know Macrusha and I are talking

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<v Speaker 5>about this because when we taped last week, I had

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<v Speaker 5>just spent the week in Pennsylvania, right, And you can

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<v Speaker 5>feel it. It is not is not a lock for

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<v Speaker 5>Harris at all, and the pollings you just suggest it's tied.

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<v Speaker 5>You also have McCormick, who got he should have been

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<v Speaker 5>the candidate rather than doctor Oz from two years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>He was running a really good campaign. He's running the

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<v Speaker 5>kind of ads that Trump should run. He's got these ads,

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<v Speaker 5>these great ads up which quote Harris saying things about

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<v Speaker 5>the border and guns and diversity and from four years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>from twenty twenty or even more recently about the border,

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<v Speaker 5>and then playing the other things she's saying at the debates,

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<v Speaker 5>and they just utterly contradict each other. I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 5>really good ads, are really effective. And he's also running

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<v Speaker 5>a very positive campaign too. He's got very good positive

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<v Speaker 5>ads up. I don't think Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania really decides the election.

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<v Speaker 5>I really still think it's fifty to fifty in the washing.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it was The Washington Post has them tied, yeh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and in the Senate race too. So don't

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<v Speaker 5>I don't mean you need any fancy data and your

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<v Speaker 5>little regression model, Stevie. Just spend a few days on

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<v Speaker 5>the ground in Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>You're from there.

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<v Speaker 5>You can feel that this is going to be a

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<v Speaker 5>coin flip election there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I forget the data.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I say it's metaphysically impossible for Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 3>to be president.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so.

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<v Speaker 5>What does that mean? Well, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>It's an appeal to natural law, John, but and prudence.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll leave all right, Lucretia.

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<v Speaker 5>What be?

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<v Speaker 2>What be headlines we got for us this week? We

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<v Speaker 2>got some handy, We got lots we just give keep them.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just give you a few. Okay, So let's start

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<v Speaker 4>with media asks Trump. Can you hear? Media asked Trump?

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<v Speaker 4>If he's tried reducing assassination attempts by being less Republican,

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<v Speaker 4>they get better. I have to start with the weak ones.

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<v Speaker 4>After being asked where his brother is, Kin explains to

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<v Speaker 4>God that he grew up in a middle class family.

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<v Speaker 4>We didn't get to this. I wanted to talk with

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<v Speaker 4>John about it, but we are over time, so I'll

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<v Speaker 4>just offer the Babylon b which I think may very

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<v Speaker 4>well be a summary of John's views on the matter.

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<v Speaker 4>Black man faces punishment for disobeying his Democratic masters, and

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<v Speaker 4>it is a picture of Eric Adams. Yeah, Trump, this one.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we discussed this a little last time. John

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<v Speaker 4>Trump will start World War three, says party, autographing bombs

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<v Speaker 4>to be launched at russa Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah boy, that's not funny really, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Acting US President stops by White House to pick up paycheck.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's a picture of Zelenski.

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<v Speaker 2>That was going to be doctor Jill.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah Jill.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah we boy, doctor Jill. You were gone, Steve. When

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Jill media warns Florida hurricane may hamper ongoing Trump

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<v Speaker 4>assassination attempt, Paris declines to say whether she supports the

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<v Speaker 4>hurricane or not. Sorry, you know that he is a

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<v Speaker 4>This was my personal favorite, though we didn't discuss anything

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<v Speaker 4>about it, but it is my personal favorite. Mark Cuban

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<v Speaker 4>inspires thousands by proving even the very retarded can become wealthy.

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<v Speaker 2>So that guy is awful. That's right, Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>John ding Dong, I'm working on one, John, So.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's see always drink your whiskey meat. Let's go Brandon

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<v Speaker 5>and Steve.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm working on this so I can't read my writing,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone go forth and be holistically inspired so that you

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<v Speaker 3>could be inspired holistically.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Bye, bye, everybody, see you next week.

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<v Speaker 5>Bye next week.

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