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Speaker 2: Pet? How are you? How you been?
Speaker 1: I've been doing good. I've been doing good, all right,
So let's just jump right in there. We're not the
kind of people that bullshit Trump's foreign policy picks. What's
your take? Where are you going with that?
Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of scare quotes, and
I think they are a lot of I think it's
a variation on the John Bolton play. If you listen
to Trump on his you know, when he was on
with Joe Rogan, he was like, yeah, you know, I
really wish he had called me earlier because I just
hired him and I didn't really want anything like that.
I only have to deal with this fucking maniac, right,
And then he's like, well, you know he's a maniac,
so I'll bring him into the negotiations. I'll let everybody
think I'm going to nuke them. And then he uses
a negotiation tactic like Trump is a guy that he
knows exactly what he's doing. He's a and he also
knows how to manipulate the overton the window. The reality is,
I think that this is a foreign policy team that
at best, at worst is going to be it's gonna
pro Israel, and there's no way you're gonna get around that.
And anybody who thought that that Donald Trump was gonna
come to power, back to power and not be pro Israel.
It's just I don't know, Like whatever you're smoking, it's
a really good fantasy gig, and I'd like to, I'd
like to, you know, visit that every once in a while.
But then you know, when the drug wears off, you
come back to reality and you know this this isn't
the phili K Dick novel where you never not wake up.
Dude's like, it's this is real. So, you know, I
look at somebody like Marco Rubio, like, you know, like
I don't see Rubio as any kind of massive hawk.
I see him as little Marco who does what he's told.
And you know that's that mark. Rubio, though, does signal
to me that Trump is planning on making Latin America
and North America his priority for the term, and that
this is, you know, a this is a clear signal
to the rest of the world that our foreign policy
is going to shift radically away from the quote quote
Asian pivot of the Obama administration. I don't think for
a second Trump wants anything to do with UH. A conversation,
a confrontation with China over Taiwan. I don't think Trump
really wants a confrontation with Iran over Israel. I think
he's gonna bluff and he's gonna bluster her, and he's
gonna beat his chest and he's gonna do with all
you're gonna do, all that rotten nonsense. But I don't
think for a second that he's gonna get us involved
in a war with Iran. I just don't like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's an impossibility. You know, I was doing
an episode with my friend John the other day, and
you know he was he was involved in war gaming
in the in the aughts over attacking Iran and what
they can and like their staging base was Azerbaijan, which
wouldn't happen, which that's not going to happen. And also
it would take two years to stage, and while Iran
is while Iran staging for two years. So this whole
thing is, and I've been saying this, this is just
a distraction away from what the most important thing is
is Ukraine, and Ukraine's the only thing that really matters.
And I think that's why if it's true that Elon
went up and met with the Iranian diploma the Ambassador
to the UN. Some people are saying it didn't happen.
So if you were saying it happened, that that was
just say, hey, you know, just let you know where
he's at, what he's thinking. But I think Ukraine's the
main thing. I mean, the one thing I guess, the
one thing that sounds that sounds bad is they're saying
that by saying we can get this thing done with
it would be to escalate Ukraine. It would be to
arm Ukraine even more and put and look make it
look like they're going to really push so that Putin
backs down or comes to the table.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, that's the worst case scenario. Actually from
a Trump's perspective, that's the worst case scenario. From the
the worst case scenario is that the Brits are trying
to meet us in the World War three.
Speaker 1: Yea. And what's funny is I've come to realize more
recently that you know, I think sometimes when we say
the Brits, we mean somebody else the city of London,
where the city of London came from. But now it
is really obvious that like that these British intelligence agencies
are really all over this and I've had people that
I trust who are in my sphere sharing stuff with
me saying, yeah, look at this, they don't even there
are there are outfits in out of England. It don't
have aren't answering to anybody. They can basically do what
they want.
Speaker 2: Well, the Grayson article confirmed it for me recently, the
one that Kack Klarenberg put out talking about project out
to me in general Strickland and all those guys. And
I mean, I always kind of knew it, right But
and even if you know, and even if that article
by Kit, I don't get me wrong, I'm not trying
to throw shade on Kit here at all, Okay, because
you know, he was clearly given information to get out
into the public. Okay, this is clearly a you know,
a leak that was meant to get out into the
general public be disseminated and explode. Now whether or not
he you know, and and Kid of course is going
to run with whatever information he's given, and I expect
him to do that, and I expect him to do
as much due diligence on that information as possible. I'm not, again,
not throwing any shade here, but the reality is that
we always we all knew all of this anyway, all
he did was all that information doesn't confirm it making
and name names, and even if those names are a dodge, right,
even if they're another layer of obfuscation, right, Like notice
how there are no there are no hooks noses involved
in that particular group. It's all classically Anglo Saxon. Okay,
even if that is the case, and even if that's
a cover story for somebody else, fine whatever, I don't care.
What matters is that this stops. It's like that that
leak is this is akin to somebody leaking Israel's plans
to attack Iran before it happened. Okay, that's the kind
of thing. That's the importance of it. Now. Personally, I
think what was given as correct is real. I think
that I'm you know, the more I watch this play out.
And I've been saying and I've been saying this for
an awfully long time, because this is my my feel
on this, okay, is that it's always been a collaboration
between a certain group of people and the British, a
certain sect of a certain group of people that we're
not supposed to name names. We all know it's the Jews,
but that it but that h it's the question is
you know who's zoom and who here? Who's running who? Right?
And you know the I don't even know that it
matters at a certain level, right And I'm not again,
I'm not trying to absolve anybody here. Whoever's guilty is guilty.
It's clearly these people are fucking evil and it doesn't
matter who they are. They're evil and we need to
stop them. And it doesn't matter whether we sprug out
and find out what the actual truth is. The actual
truth really matter that much as opposed to stopping the
people who are actually doing this, because knowing who's doing
it doesn't help you to stop who's going to you
know what they're doing unless you literally out what they're doing,
which is what that article did beautifully, I think. But
we all have plenty of circumstantial evidence around this. So
me personally, I think it's the fucking British. I think
the shit goes back five hundred years. That's me. Like,
you can disagree with me if you want, I don't care.
It doesn't matter. Do I think they're cynically using Jewish eschatology? Yeah?
I do do I think they're cynically using Muslim eschatology,
Yeah I do. Do I think they're cynically using Christian eschatology,
Yeah I do. Why because they like having a permanent
aircraft carrier in the Middle East to control all the
maritime shipping lanes, which is what the British Empire was
built on. And what's the current business model of the
City of London shipping insurance? Take that and four x
that's it. That's like six that's like thirty five percent
of British GDP. That's where all their money comes from.
It's where all their power comes from. Take that away
from them. Why do you think they're angry with I
Ran because they kicked the run out of the swift
system twelve years ago and Iron built their own shipping
shipping industry with its replete with his own insurance industry.
That's why they hate the Russians, because the Russians are
doing the same fucking thing. Like like, this is about
what it's in London, folks. This isn't about like it
you know, well, I just you know, that's that's that's
that's my very cynical take on it. And you know,
and if you have a bunch of just at the
last point, if you have a bunch of you know,
Jewish maximalists, you want to call them Zionis, want to
call them whatever you wants, that are willing to graft
themselves onto that power base. That makes perfect sense. I mean,
and again it doesn't matter who's running who here there,
it's a marriage and convenience.
Speaker 1: Ultimately, Well, even if you look at Jewish power in
this country, if you look at APAC, if you look
at all these things, it gets to a point where
the blackmail and the bribes are only only goat for
so long. When if the person who like it so say,
there's everyone in Congress except for Thomas Massey and apparently
Matt Gates was taking money and being and being blackmailed
or bribed by by Jews, by Zionists. It only gets
so long before they become complicit, before they're like, they
like it, they start to like it, and then it's
like that then they can start see this is what
I I don't think this is what people are seeing.
Is what people are seeing is if they do start,
if there is a wasp rebellion against Jewish power, right now,
all the wasps are doing is taking over the power
that the Jews were exercising. The only thing that you
can hope for if that is in fact happening. And
I've been seeing this for a couple of years now.
It's not like I just came to this, you know,
this is something that it looks like that wasp wasps
were rising. And especially if you if you want listen
to the people who go on Napolitano's show. Even E
Michael Jones, of all people, was saying, whenever you see
someone go whenever Colonel McGregor opens his mouth, it seems
like he's putting information out there for somebody else. And
considering he's a wasp elite, and Trump's bringing in all
these wasp elites for the for everything that is based
in domestic and financial, it looks like they're trying to
take over. And if they take over, well, they're going
to have the same power that the Zionists and the
Jews had. It's just a matter of whether they're indifferent
to us or whether their plans somehow benefit us.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's I mean, that's perfectly reasonable.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 2: That's all I've been saying about drum Powell and the
fed by the way, you know. I mean it was
very early on in this process that one of my
one of my patrons, you know, did a genealogical deep
dive in the palell. It came up today's eighth generation American.
I've made this point many times. And guess what somebody
else in one of my one of my patrons pointed
out the other day and reading the uh the Trump
nomination of Scott descent, there was a little note in
there that said, and Scott's the direct descendant of the
direct descendant of French Huguenots that goes back to sixteen eighty. Now,
why in the fuck would he put that in that
note if it wasn't important, if he wasn't signaling that
to somebody.
Speaker 1: This is like, you have two people that are running
it's on his fucking Wikipedia that he's that he's descended
from French French Huguenots. That's not stuff doesn't go on Wikipedia.
That's not supposed to be.
Speaker 2: There, right, And so you're so you're hearing two things.
So you've got two people now who are in charge
of US monetary and fiscal policy that we could argue
pretty convincing, aren't race traders and again you know what
they do with that power? Again, I've never you know
once ever you know state.
Speaker 1: Yelling like does Jennet yelling like Jerome power?
Speaker 2: How they hate each other?
Speaker 1: They were spoken in. Yeah, but what power group does
she reckon? Does she represent Dava? Well, let's let's use
the three let me, I'll use the three letter work,
the four letter work.
Speaker 2: No, no, well yeah, she's part of that group, that cabal.
But I think she maps specifically. I look, there's Evil
Corp Central, and Evil Corpse Central has a lot of
verticals in it, you know, like Microsoft has the Office
and then Windows and then special Products and then the
Zoom and everything else. Right, Well, you have your various
verticals with the Evil Corpse Central, one of which is
the British Remnant, one of which is Davos, would be
Continental Europe, and then the other and then then then
you have the Jews, and then you have you have
all these other and and and they all have ven diagrams,
and there's a ven diagram of their of their incentive structure,
and there's a lot of overlap with some of them,
and you know, and I just think that people who
are long term Obomades are Devojan first and British Remnant second.
I think there's a fundamental difference between the British Remnant,
which is more of the Anglo Saxon British power, as
opposed to Davos, which is you know, and and look,
don't get me wrong, I think there's the Jews are
are in both camps. God, I think, and they think
they're playing their own game, the particular Jews that everybody
doesn't like, right, And and I think that, you know,
that's why it gets complicated, like these are old relationships
that are hundreds of years old. These are old fights
that are hundreds of years old. And you know, at
this point we're dealing with you know, the great great
grandsons are the ones who created the wealth. And I'm
being it's really like put four or five greats in
front of that, and we all know what that looks like.
You start with, you know, if the father made the
money and the grand if the grandfather made the money,
the father maintained the money, and the grandson spent all
the money, right, and we're you know, two or three
generations beyond that in terms of inbreeding, and you know,
and and mendaciousness and all those and all these other
freaking words that are now somehow leaving my brain, like
you know, evil for lack of a better term, Like
you know what we're dealing with here, We're dealing with
people who have had no constraints put on their behavior
for multiple generations. And there is decadent as they come.
That's the word I'm looking for. And you know, it
doesn't matter what you know, what the religion is, it
doesn't matter what their ethnicity is, because the last I checked,
you know, you know, the Jews don't have a monopoly.
I'm being decadent, Like plenty a decade of Russians out there,
Plenty of decadent Italians out there, Plenty of decadent Irishman
out there, plenty of deferent you know, you know what
I mean. Like that's not plenty of decadent Spaniards. And
let me do this. People, when you get that much money,
you're just like you just do decadent ship. And so
this is my this So when I go on my
my when I go on a rant about why it's
not all the Jews, this is exactly what I'm talking about.
I'm just willing to open up the conversation to go
all that you know, that evil and decadence and abusive
narcissism and malignant narcissism isn't you know, isn't tied to ethnicity.
It's not it's not geneologic, you know, it's not it's
not passed down the genes. You know, everybody there's a
there's you know, everybody has this tendency. It's part of
human nature. So you know, just that's why it that's
why it's And if you do that kind of analysis
or you make those kinds of assertions, you're easy to
dismiss as being a racist or this or that or
anything else, because then at the end of the day
they're really not wrong, as opposed to just opening up
and going, oh, they're all ship bags.
Speaker 1: What's funny is I was talking to I was at
the American Renaissance Conference and I was talking to Jared Taylor,
and I asked Jared Taylor about, you know, the JQ,
and he said, well, you know, I've read all of
Kevin McDonald's work and I know it, but you know,
I'm I'm all about race. You know. My rule is
be a crank on one thing and I'm a crank
on race, so.
Speaker 2: So am I that races? Lioney's like, you know what
I mean, Like, Okay, I'm okay with that, And that's
that's my gig. If you wanted to be your gig,
that's fine. I don't really care. But but I think
it's what's I think it's important. And I'll be honest
with you why. Part of part of the reason why
I've like wrapped my brain around, I've taken this on
so hard this way, is because they work so fucking
hard to stay in the shadows and blame everybody else.
And I think it's really important that we get past
this whole image of modern England as you know, a
bunch of that. It's it's a cross between Monty Python
and Dalt Nabbey. Like it's bullshit. That's all propaganda, folks. Okay,
what do you think.
Speaker 1: They destroyed their own Why do you think they destroyed
their own culture by importing basically yeah, third the Third
World and Africa and the Middle East.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing, this is where you get
into this. Did you have a bunch of again? This
is why I like to make the distinction between Davos
and the British remnant, I think, and when you look
at somebody like Tony Blair or David Cameron or Sir
Mark Saidwell or others those people like that, I don't
I think that they they that they're just kind of
classically progressive British who really do believe in communism and
really do believe in, you know, the whole European project.
Like why did they why did why did they? Why
did her Thatchers betray her so easily and destroy any
restoration of you know effect. I mean, let's see, at
the end of the day, have to ask yourself the
big question is, like's two things. One, I don't think
the British really care. The British elite don't care about
their people. They don't care about the culture. This came
about stay remaining in power their locusts. So they I
think they realized a long long time ago that ruling
the world from this little shitty island is not you know,
is not what's necessary. They're willing to move their power
base to wherever they think the power base is going
to be next. They already moved their power base to
the United States ages ago, right, and now they then
they were planning a movie at the China and she
was like, yeah, that's nice. Your money's still trapped behind
the fucking Chinese wall. And I and I and and
and that was a double entendre on purpose. Folks, we
don't know what the Chinese wall is between the investments
bank side and the and the commercial bank side of
a bank. This was his Chinese wall between them. Like supposedly,
like h gen knew exactly what he was doing, and
and and so did Dung Japing and the others. I
think they all understood exactly what was going on, or
they had an arrangement right with the Chinese in the
eighties and the nineties and into the auts. And then
she comes to balances. No no, no, no no no, I keeps
the capitol account closed and then all the money is
stuck behind the Chinese wall. And then he just cuts
up all the avenues for escape. Like I saw something
this afternoon. Somebody posted to my Twitter feed this afternoon
that I don't know the guy's name, but she's about
to execute some banker for being a trader. And apparently
that guy, and apparently that guy worked for Soros's being executed.
They didn't just take his money. Folks. They didn't execute him,
oh by the way, so you know, but they were
fully preparing to move their their their power base to China.
After they stripped mine the British Isles, they stripped mined Europe,
then they stripped mine in the United States, and now they're
planning on strip mining in China. There's locus. They just
go from place to place to place, and you know,
and again, this is not an ethnicity at this point.
This is a mindset. And you know, yeah, there are
a lot of British Jews whranglified their names. I'm not
gonna argue about that.
Speaker 1: Who who's a bigger threat or who does Powell view
as the enemy more? Is it the city of London
or is it Davos or is it column and Columbee?
Speaker 2: I think it's the same thing as the euro dollar system.
He's already new to the city of London because he took
a libor away from them.
Speaker 1: They couldn't, okay, if he knew to the city of London.
Answer me this question, just so we can piss off
we can piss off the libertarians and a narco capitalists.
If we made we made do that. Why did how
the r Malay send all of that gold, all like
sixty to seventy percent of Argentina's gold to the City
of London.
Speaker 2: Did anybody, I don't. I The first thing I did
was say, oh, look he's fake when I saw that.
But then I saw about three weeks later that the
British are giving giving Argentina the fall comes back. Uh, okay,
So the hey, even if even if England is broke
by the way, right, well are they buying aren't they?
They buying our debt out of like the Caymans and
out of Saint Kitts and trying to get weasel their
way back in. Well, no, that's a different I think
that's a different point. Let's let's stick on the Malay
thing for a second, simply because I don't I'm gonna
I think I'm gonna wind up being wrong about Malay
in the same way that I was wrong above the deck. Okay,
and fair a fair cop. And I hope I am.
I've always said I hope I'm wrong about the Deck,
and I you know, I'd like to be wrong about Malae.
If Malay traded the Falkland Islands and all the oil
and all and everything else and all the oil rights
and everything else for the rest of urchins, for most
of Argentina's gold. That's a fair trade for him because
now he can just because if he's open, Because if
he then deregulates the economy and leaves the and then
makes a deal with Wall Street, which is apparently what
he's doing to recapitalize the country, right, then they've got
all the gold and silar coming out of the ground
that they want. All the Argentinian government can rebuild those
reserves in no time. Right if that's the deal they
made he made, then that's the deal I would have made.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, I mean I agree, I agree that.
Speaker 2: It's hard to argue at that point. You know, my
ego would say, you know, normally my ego was saying, ah,
I'm so right about this, but I'm not. I mean,
if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Like so that seems like
a real honest to God tray here. So then with
the British buying the ship out of the US treasuries,
and they are, by the way, now the second largest
holder the Bank of England is of US treasuries on
the you know, of all the central banks, more than China,
just barely. They just beat the Chinese out a couple
of weeks, and the Chinese vacillate every about ten or
twenty billion dollars a month plus or mindus, so you
know it's it's next month China maybe number two. Don't
they do it?
Speaker 1: Don't they do it every once in a while as
a fuck you to us, just be like, okay, this
is what we hold over you. And then they're doing it.
Speaker 2: They're doing it to they're doing it to keep the
they're doing it to keep the pound under from from
falling because they're trying to keep their bond yields from
rising too fast.
Speaker 1: Well, they're the pound. When we were when we were kids,
the pound was always like two dollars. It seemed like
it was pegged to two American dollars a quarter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's a bucket a quarter. Yeah, so
W one twenty five six something like that this afternoon.
The but the point is is that at this point,
and again I don't have I can't like tell you, well,
this is the trade looks like this from Japan to
from Japan to Germany to England to France and back,
and no one knows what the fucking trade is we
just know that that the ECB and the b O
are the Bank of England and the European Central Bank
are have been maintaining a very tight yield spreads between
American and German debt and English debt of similar maturity
since Powell started raising interest rates, and the pound eurocross
has been a particularly egregious thing. When I wrote the
last blog post, I wrote last last month about without
maybe not last month, but back back in October, before
I went to to speak at the Mesas Institute on
a cob Or twelve, I wrote an article talking about
the British and I said, you know, I opened it
up by saying, look, I'm never I am the last
person to be considered a fan of the British. But
I'm going to do something I would not normally do.
I'm gonna I'm going to now cast them as the victim,
not the villain. But and the villain in this story
is dc BA right, Because depending on your point of view,
depends on whether a person's the hero of the victim or
the villain. This is a very important thing to do,
and this is part of the reason why I get
really angry with people who say, well, it's all the Jews, like, no,
it's not. They can be a victim depending on depending
on how you view the problem, right, they can be
the hero depending on how you now literally bake people's
fucking noodle. Right. So it all depends on the perspective.
So in this perspective, the break, go back to Brexit,
Go get the pound, youuro across. Let's go pull up
a ten year monthly chart of the pound euro across
and you'll see that during twenty sixteen, you know, once
we were getting close to the vote for Brexit, the
campaign to stop breaks it started very quickly, and it
started with them attacking the pound versus the euro, and
they devalued the pound versus the euro by twenty five percent. Okay,
Now the bottom of the trading range is around eighty
three cents, so point eighty three euros to the pound. Okay,
that has been defended like a dog since twenty sixteen.
Like it's hit that bottom end of that range eighteen times, right,
I don't know, twelve times, eighteen times, it doesn't matter
a lot. That's the floor. Now, when you devalue the
currency one currency versus the other, obviously the pound is
losing purchasing power on the continent of Europe. Right so now,
under normal circumstances, because that happened and because the pound
was being is also devaluing against the dollar and other currencies,
there should have been an investment flood into the UK,
but that was blow because of the three years of
Brexit negotiations, then COVID and everything else. So what we're
talking about here is that to punish the Brits, the
British people for voting for Brexit, they've left the pound
very very weak versus the Euro, and then there was
nothing that would allow the benefits of the weaker currency
to come in and make things better for the British people.
In order to do what to destroy their support for
Brexit and set up eventually we're getting And so everybody
hates the Tories because they gave us this Brexit. This
Brexit didn't work. It's all awful, you know. The London set.
The former lead people like Jeremy Clarkson used to complain
about how expensive French wines are now and all the
and they can't get cheese and all this other crap.
But the truth of the matter is they couldn't They
couldn't really export either, because there was a part of
the the Brexit agreement that left the British on the
hook for any damages to the year a union for
ten buccing years after the brez had vote. So you
strangle them on the currency, you strangle them on bondills.
Trump said he would give them a trade deal if
they voted for Brexit. Our Congress steinies them for four years,
because our Congress still works for fucking Obama and Davos,
Continental London, Continental European and then we get COVID, which
destroys everything. Boris Johnson tries to stand up to these people,
not go for lockdowns or any of the and masking
and all the rest of this stuff. They try and
kill him twice. I mean, I'm a fan of Boris Johnson,
but they did try to kill him a couple of times. Right,
So when you when you factor all that together, it's
very clear that they were trying to starve the Brits
out because they wanted them back in the European Union.
So this is a fight between the old British remnant,
which is what who backed bresit. So that remember, during
the Brexit negotiations, everywhere with all the the the Romoters
were like, well, you know they breaks it was just
back by a whole bunch of really rich people who
you just you know, you heard all that shit. Well, yeah,
they wanted they wanted their independence, they wanted to be
independent of the European Union fucking assholes, and they wanted
to reassert British dominance over continental Europe. At the same time.
I don't do I think Nigel Farage was a part
of that. No, do I think the other people that
you know he had to get into bed with to
get Brexit done. Yes, Like, you know, it's a very
complicated situation when you're trying to extricate yourself from medi evil,
freaking people. But the European Union is Britain's biggest trading partner.
So the with the Biden hunt now, the first thing
Biden said was, you know, when I come to power,
no trade deal with the UK, get back into get
back into the European Union. You know, you you gap
tooth Freakin' Milamy's like, that's what you're supposed to do,
and that was very clear. That's what the policy was.
Because the plan of all these globalist at the end
of the day. They all have the same plan. Destroy
the national borders, destroy the national culture, and then turn
all of the power over the transnational post World War
two institutions, the BIS, the IMF, the World Bank and
the UN which they control. Now in my map of
the world, they're all fighting who's going to control those
institutions after the war is over? Is there going to
be the British remnant? Is there going to be is
there going to be France and Germany? Who's it going
to be? And everybody's fighting over there for that, But
they all agree on two things. Destroy the US because
of the because they're the only real current antipode to
them and within the Western system that has to be
taken out. And to kill Russia because we need all
their resources for the collateral necessary to reboot the system
after they collapse the entire system during the war, because
who the hell is going to buy the new debt
same as the old debt after they collapse and default on.
You know, I don't know so many twenty trillion dollars
with the sovereign debt. You've got to have. You've got
to have more than twenty three you you've got to
have the cash flow streams coming in the future to
get anybody to go along with this, to basically take
the big punch in the mouth now for the big
punch for the for the big pot of gold at
the end of the rainbow. And that's why Ukraine, Pete
to your original point, is the key, because Ukraine and
Russia are the prize and the best way for them
to win is to set the two people that they
hate the most, who are their natural enemies in this
fight against each other. So France, and this is the
only time you go over see France and Britain agree
with anything. Yeah, we need to kill the Russians. Yes,
we need to bring the Americans down a peg. Then
they're gonna fight amongst themselves as who's gonna win after that.
But the but clearly the British have been betrayed from within,
the same way that we've been betrayed from within. That's
very clear.
Speaker 1: So so if there's of people in the what.
Speaker 2: I said, the.
Speaker 1: If the wasp e elite in this country are making moves,
and I think that's one of the reasons why Tucker
Carlson's podcast is the number one podcast in the country,
in the world because That's where it seems that most
of this resistance to the apex of the world, the
Ukrainian nationals that are in the government. You know, Alexander Vinman,
who he needs to be hung, I mean, he needs
to be tried and hung for treason. I mean they
are making Yeah, I mean these let's keep going down
the line of how many people in Biden's White House
you are from within like a twenty to thirty mile radius,
their families are from a twenty to thirty mile radius
of Levov. I mean this, It's it's insane how this
is just a like a Ukrainian and they all have
Jewish back or all Jewish backgrounds. The but if if
the Wasps are making a move and Trump is loading
up his cabinet mostly with non Jews, I think there's
two or three at this point. But you know everybody
will scream, well, well, the rest of them are Zionists.
They're all pro Israel. It's like, i mean, show everybody's
talking about like a Florida occupied government, and I'm like, well,
if you are a politician in Florida and you're not
pro Jewish, you're not a politician in Florida.
Speaker 2: Well not certainly not from South Florida. It's certainly not
a statewide race.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So up north where I am up north there they
were used. There are the ones like the kids that
go to the University of Florida. It's like, let's make
it up. Yeah right, So.
Speaker 1: If if the wasps are making a move back, where
do you see in the cabinet? Because I'm not at
all worried about pretty much anything that I've seen put
in the cabinet for domestic and to me, I think
Trump doesn't want anything to do with Iran. I think
he's mostly leave Israel. Israel does what they do. You know,
I'll be friendly to them, but I'm not going to
go out of my way to help them. He wants
your Ukraine done. It seems to me that this cabinet
is focused on domestic is fixing what's wrong here. And
this cabinet is like one gigantic troll. It's like a
gigantic fuck you to the people who've put us through
hell for the last four years, especially through COVID and
especially through the Summer of Floyd and the election of
twenty twenty and j six and everything that's happened since then,
and the people that the people who don't see that.
You know, I've I hear. I heard two very popular
libertarians I was listening to the podcast before we started recording,
saying this is going to be no different than Trump's
first term, And I'm like, how.
Speaker 2: Do you okay? The same people, These are the same
people who were screaming at Tulsi Gabbard is a Zionist
because she's he's not down with the crazy Islamists that
we created that need to be wiped off the planet,
like they're insane, because everything comes down to the same,
because look, I'm I'm at the point now where people
like their misery. There are some people in this world
who like being, who like losing because losing is comfortable,
because losing has no responsibilities. Losing is sitting in the
back of the classroom lob and spitballs at the teacher,
and when the teacher finally gets tired of it, or
even better, the rest of the class gets tired of
it and starts around. Look, do you think you can
teach this fucking class better? Gets your ass up here?
Oh no, no, I just want to love spit balls in
the back of the room. Now, you and I can
the lob spit balls in the back of the room.
And then when they turned around and said, can you
can you teach this class better? I go, fuck yeah,
I ken get out of my way. Oh by the way,
and that's what we do. And again no, you know,
no ego here. I just know damn well that okay.
If I'm gonna if I'm gonna lob bullets from the back,
if I'm gonna lob spitballs in the back of the room,
is because I'm satisfied with these explanations. But I'm not
doing so because I just want to be a gadfall.
I mean, I'm good at being a gadfly, but I
do so because I think you're wrong. And this is
why I think you're wrong. They don't have a reason
as to why they think. They just know they don't
want to be right because it comes with no responsibility
and it's a pathology. Dex White and I've had a
lot of conversations privately about this in recent in recent
days going and one of the things that he brought
up to me is like, look, you're just dealing with
a lot of people who are vaguely spurgy some of them,
some of them are more spurgy than others. And the
other side of it is that they all have oppositional
defiance disorder, and that that's what libertarian is attracts. On balance,
it also attracts very smart people with a lot of
principles who go, no, no, no, no, these are this is
a better way of thinking, this is a better way
of being. But they also graduate beyond that to go
this is a personal philosophy, not a political ideology that
we can play that, you know, we can, we can
birth whole hog into the world. That's a fundamentally different thing, right, Like,
you know, yeah, taxation stuff, but I still pay my
income taxes because I don't want to, because you know,
I don't want to any more holes in my head,
not stupid, like I have enough holes in my head.
I don't need another one that's a vaguely nine millimeter
size going in, you know, in or three hundred blackout,
going in one side and out the other. I'm sorry,
I'm allergic to that shit, you know, get over, here's
your money. I understand it's the mob, and I understand
that April fifteenth is envelope Day. I'm not dumb, okay,
And I think that that's you know, that's part of
what we have to we have to we have to
understand that we're dealing with that level of arrested development, childishness,
whatever you want to call it. Now, I know there's
a piss a lot of fucking people up and I
don't care because I'm about winning. And if you don't
want to win, fine, the LP is a great place
for you because you're never gonna win.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this now, And I don't I
don't want this to become like a complete just throwing
shit at people. But you were asked to speak at
the Mesa's Institute Supporters summit because they know you're a
long time libertarian. You've written for lou Rockwell dot com
and YadA, YadA, YadA, and they haven't released the video yet.
What did you What was the message that you sent them?
That is? That seems that I'm not going to say that.
It seems to me they either think that it will
tarnish their image, it goes against their core beliefs, or
it'll piss off the donors if it didn't already, maybe maybe.
Speaker 2: Only the above. I know that while I was giving
the speech, the room didn't feel cold. Okay, I didn't.
It didn't feel I would say at times it probably
didn't feel warm. But at the same time I got
enough you know, positive feedback off the room that I
didn't think that I was, you know, stepping out of
any bounds. What I basically did was I came in
with an idea. The name of the speech was quite simply,
and now is our time to slay dragons? Are we prepared?
And I gave a What I gave was a very
kind of high level metaphor talk about branding and messaging.
And I use, you know, and I use the evolution
of storytelling from the modern novels, the birth of the
modern novel all the way through to the birth of
the role playing game in the late nineteen seventies as
the as the jumping off point. And I did so
because I wanted to remind I wanted I want to
talk about how dominant paradigm shift. Right. So we live
in a Canesy And dominated world, and if you want
to have an Austrian dominated world in terms of economic thinking,
well then we have to do some we have to
do some rebranding. Because here we are twelve years on
from the from the Rampaul Revolution, and there's you know,
and I'm probably stepped in it a couple of times
because I said, look, if we were really a serious organization,
and I know I said this, that there'd be more
than there'd be two thousand people in this room, not
two hundred. But we're not. We're not paying it off.
And I don't think we're doing you know, I don't
think we're doing the I don't think we're doing the
work that the men who came before us. I don't
think we're doing the the I don't think we're paying
them proper homage to go out and build the next
generation that way, you know, if you want to just
maintain what I did say is I said, look, so
we have a great story, but we tell it badly.
I wasn't like being a big about this. I was
literally saying, we have a great story, we just tell
it badly. We go from private property rights the tactics
of stuff to end the FED. And that's scary to
a lot of people outside this room. Everybody in this
room gets that idea, but we don't. But the rest
of them don't. They say, well, what are you replaced
with it? How do you get from here to there?
What do you get? There's all these these these stories,
these all these questions, and we're not prepared to answer them.
We don't craft our talking points. This when I did say,
I said, understand. I used to be the Mesa's Institute
was the first place I went to in the morning,
lou Rockwell messas dot org check for new things. I
don't do that anymore. I haven't been there on a
regular on a regular basis. I haven't been there in
twelve years, ten years. Why because I already know what
you're gonna say, and you know, and those funny pieces
I've told this. I've told part of this story to
a number of different podcasters behind the scenes and explaining
what happens, because they're all like, dude, when's the speech
coming out? And I'm like, well, I can't. And I
explained it to them and I told them that the
exact thing, and they all said the same thing, Yeah,
we know what they're gonna say. And then I have
to ask the question, like why am I on everybody's
podcast And I'm a dick. I swear a lot. I'm
not even you know, half the time, I'm not even
like fit for human consumption and yet on everybody's favorite
guest apparently, and again not busting my hand, patting myself
on the back. But what's why, because you never know
what the fuck's gonna come out of my mouth? Right well?
And so what I said was I said, so what
I said to them, I didn't. I wasn't that confrontational
about it, but this, but it was. But the theme
was underneath, and I said. What I said was, look,
we have a great story. We just have to do
a much better job of telling it. Now. I come
in here and I'm the heretic. I'm the guy who
goes out there and says nice things about the FED
every once in a while. Tom Woods is really good
at what he does in the front row. And Tom
does what he does. He brings people along to the
He's the introductory guy that brings people into the whole thing.
But we don't have anybody in between. And I was said,
and to the kids in the audience, to the interns,
what role do you want to play in this? If
you you know, because you have a role to play,
and you should think and I'm thinking, I'm like, and
all I'm doing now is paying forward with Gary North
taught me twenty years ago. You know, find your niche
find that thing you're an expert in and be great
at it so that people use you as a resource.
But we have to tighten the story. We have to
tighten the storytelling up because the goal is to lead
the people out of the darkness so that they can
they're strong enough to go slay dragons. That's what we
need to go do. How do we do that? Well,
I got news for you. We're not doing it. I said,
if we don't do a better job of telling this story,
then what's going to happen here is you're going to
have what happened at the Liver Hearing Party convention this summer,
where you're going to send Dave Smith and those guys
into a room full of Trotsky. I'm trying to take
over your institution and succeeding. And because you didn't prepare
them emotionally with the right weapons, and you sent them
in unarmed in a war. But the system is failing.
We have answers to a lot of these questions of
how to get out of this problem that we're in.
Another question is are we willing to come up our
rhetorical mountain and go help them. And if we're not
willing to go do that, then we're going to just
be in a relevant book club. And you know, I can,
I can. I know why people are. I know why
Salerno and deal Lorenzo, who by the way, called me
a clown. And I don't have no problem now saying
this almost two months later, when I asked, when I
asked very nicely as to whether or not I was ever
going to see the seech where I was going to
see the light to day call me a clown. And
I know that the people that I talked to after
the speech was over, they were all we were all
sitting out there for two hours after the speech was over,
right outside the thing. I was available to everybody. We
all had a great time, and they're all like, thank
god you said that. That crowd needed to hear that
has needed to hear that for twelve years, ten years.
I've been coming to these things forever, and finally somebody
said what needed to be said. And I do believe that.
I don't know because I haven't had I haven't talked
to him, but getting a hold of lou Rockwell personally,
if my email has always been very difficult for me
going back to when I first published my first article
with him, because he missed the stuff he always has,
or it winds up, or my emails wind up be
in a spam folder or something along those lines. So
I sent Lou a very nice thank you note, and
I know that while I was checking in with him
during while I was giving this speech, he looked riveted.
He didn't look angry with me. And I was given
the yank by the way I had structured the speech
in such a way that I moved through all the
talking points to get to the end, to leave fifteen
minutes for Q and A to explain myself, and they
gave him the yank after one question. Well, we had
a whole raft of people getting ready to ask questions,
and so what we wound up with is a scenario
where we found out that you know, there are people
there that are are comfortable with where they are, and
if they are comfortable, this is the last thing I'll say.
If they're comfortable being the keepers of the records, if
they're comfortable being the monks who preserve the knowledge through
you know, can't go before we labor with style. If
that's there, If that's what they see their role as being. Well,
then you know, mazel Tov, that's not my role, and
that's not what I think their role should be. But hey,
you know, I gave it my best shot. But I
wasn't confrontational. I wasn't mean about it. I was like, look,
let's go out there and slay dragons. But we may
have to make a deal with one for a little while.
We may have to say nice things about the FED
because the FED may actually do some do the right
thing every once in a while. It's not it's not
an athema. It's our job as analysts to analyze the
world we have from the perspective of what you know
from our perspective, and I, you know, that's what I say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I get Shortly afterwards, you and I had
a private conversation, and people, I guess the only person
my wife, got to witness our private conversations, which pretty
much end up with you and I yelling at each other,
but not yelling at each other like we're mad at
each other. We're just like, so we get so fired up,
we just start yelling at each other, and we're pretty
much just yelling at each other on the phone. And
one of the points I made, which I want you
to talk about right now, is that all this end
the FED bullshit. If you ended the FED tomorrow, the
globalist win. And they don't realize that. So why did
the globalist win if we end the FED tomorrow?
Speaker 2: The globalist win if we end the FED tomorrow, Because
this is a war between central banks. This is a
war of the future of money. And like it or not,
the shitty money that we're all using is right now
the dominant mechanism by which we run the world, and
it's greased by dollars. We created a dollar global We
already created a global reserve currency, which is a rare
thing in human existence. As a matter of fact, I
don't think we've ever had a global reserve currency previous
to this. Not even the British pound was a global
reserve currency. Let's not kid ourselves, right. Gold was maybe
the closest thing to a global reserve currency. And then
there's the manipulation of gold versus silver during the nineteenth, eighteenth, nineteenth,
and early twentieth centuries that led to a lot of
I led to a lot of strife and a lot
of anything else. So in today's world, asset prices are
based on the amount of this crabby money that's floating around.
So if you won ninety four percent deflation and you
want to, the globals will win simply because if you
try to get rid of the Fed, then you're seeding
control over global monetary system to them, because the dollars
are still going to flow if you give it, if
you give it over to the Treasury, now, the Treasury,
now they can go and they can take over the
federal government every four years, okay, And we maximize the
uncertainty surrounding the future of the dollar. So when you
maximize the uncertainty over something in economic sense, what do
you do? You shorten thiss lifespan because you know, people
buy things and they invest in things, and they do
and they in order to create certainty in order to
create a sense of higher time. They want lower time preference.
We want people we act in order to lower our
time preference. I'm going to put the sims Saisi in terms, right,
we act in order to lower our time preference on
what we're going to do with the next minute of
our life, so we can think farther out into the future. Well,
if you maximize uncertainty because you're not sure if the
dollar's going to who's going to be the Federal Reserve chair,
who's going to be the Treasury secretary, who's going to
be the president, doesn't everything else? Remember four years, we're constantly,
you know, flipping back and forth between tight to weak,
to this to that monetary policy or fiscal policy. You know,
then there's maximum uncertainty. And if once now that we've
reached a point where all the national balance sheets around
the world are chucked to the guild and levered up
with debt to the point where they it's either you
collapse them or you reform them completely. Getting rid of
the FED now is not gonna We're not gonna go
back to the gold standard. I mean gold has already
proven inadequate for this this level of division of labor.
I'm not saying that gold is bad. I like gold,
I love gold. I think gold needs to return to
the monetary system, but it can't return to the monetary system.
We're not going to be transacting in gold coins, folks,
Like that's his bumb Like, we're gonna we can we
have gold come back as collateral, but you're not going
to be able to move to that tomorrow. And because
the just eat our lunch with shitty money that out
competes good money because you won't stop the process of
Gresham's law. Gold doesn't circulate because of capital gains tax
on gold. Gold doesn't circulate because dollars is a shit.
You get rid of the dollar, you get rid of
you get rid of the FED and a control over
the value of the dollar. You hand it back to
the You're going to hand it to the European Central Bank,
going to hand it to the BIS. Great now you're
just handing them the blueprint for programmable money, you know,
de banking, unpersoning, deplatforming. Again, I'm not you know again,
the FED isn't our friend, but the FED acts on
the behalf of the commercial banks who don't want to
be cut out of the new, brave, new monetary world
that they're trying to build. So well, central banking is evil,
and it is when you have the biggest dragon at
the table, or you have the army on the board,
you don't just I'm gonna convert those into plowshares and
you know, let them and then you know, say, yeah,
I'm not playing anymore. Great, So you're telling us that
we're all just gonna do we're just leaving us to
the wolves, then well, yeah, well of course we're libertarians.
Like I'm sorry, I'm at the point now where I
really do feel like Ed Norton while he's beating the
shit out of Jared Ledo in Fight Club, like I
I you know, I'm being He's beating the crab out him.
He's literally saying, you know, I was angry for every
pandam that would't fuck to save its own species. That's
the way I feel about all these That's the way
I feel about every one of these black pearled libertarians,
every fucking one of them. And I'm angry with them
because it's very clear that they have no fucking clues
to what's going on. And I can lay that at
the feet of the second generation Misssians, who have not
filled in the fucking details and have not met a
euro dollar they've ever understood. It's a big world out there.
I mean when a ship back like Jeff Snyder understands
the global monetary system better than the entirety of the
Mesas Institute and then reveals himself to be as far
as I'm concerned a water carrier for the globalists because
he never wants because he tried to explain the euro
dollar system to everybody for years. Right. But the minute
Sofa went live and I started complaining that, I started saying, well,
no Sofa is going to eat live wars lunch in
the United States is going to be in control of
its own monetary policy. Again. I got so much hate
mail and feedback from people.
Speaker 1: Like I got.
Speaker 2: I got blacklisted by Robert Barnes for over over a year,
to be honest with you, even because he believed because
he agreed with Jeff Snyder over me, and I told
I told him. I asked him multiple times, Hey man,
once come on the podcast, we'll talk about it. Or
all of his people said, why don't you have Tom
on you guys talk about No, I don't want to like, oh, look, grifter,
I'll state it flat out. I don't give a fuck.
We're here for the saving, trying to save the fucking
goddamn humanity from these fucking people, and you expect me
to not name names. Maybe that's the little legal is
this is to go on my part. I'm fine, I'm
gonna shit, but it's clear what these people are doing
over on over at the marin Archos building, And it's
clear what they're doing on Wall Street if you have
eyes to see and are they perfect?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Are they going to try and you know, are they
going to turn in? Could they turn into the next
you know boss, we have to you know, level up
and beat the next time? Sure? Again, why why did
I use role playing games as a as a as
a metaphor for this? Yeah, we have to level up
not only our rhetoric today, but possibly have to fight
a bigger boss tomorrow. I did say at one point,
I said, you know, I do like it every time
that Bob Murphy beats up on Paul Krugman. But you know, dude,
like at the end of the day, Krugman is a Cobald.
Could we you know, could could we graduate to Alberts please?
You guys aren't even ready for dragons, aren't even ready
for them yet. You haven't prepared people for al bears yet,
and we've got dragons. This slight. I I don't know, man,
I look at this is very obvious to me what
needs to be done.
Speaker 1: And it's there's a lot of audience capture. There's a
lot of audience capture in there too. It's that there.
You know, I'll say this as somebody who has when
they stop pushing the libertarian line, you know, lost a
huge percentage of my income from content creation. Is that
there are people who their job is being a libertarian,
Their job is, you know, promoting promoting this, and they
know and I will tell you from experience, and you
know this too. As soon as you step away from that,
as soon as you as soon as that box you're in,
as soon as you poke a hole in that box
and you want to see what's on the outside, and
you're like, oh, wait a minute, there's more information out
there that we need in order to operate in order
to take down this enemy. This, you know, this enemy
that's been lording it over us for you know, a
century and centuries. In many cases, people know that there
they stand the chance of losing their income, they stand
the chance of losing their audience, they stand the chance
of losing their donations because they've created a group of
people who cannot see outside of that box. And anything
outside of that boxes stayed as Keynesian as YadA YadA,
YadA YadA, and all of those, all of those things
are sins that are unforgivable.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well again, so it's a cult, it's a religion,
it's a thing. I while I was there, I said,
I said, you know, guys, I want you to understand
that what the what what the downstream effect of the
story that you're telling is the following. You've created bitcoin maxies,
You've created gold bugs. I said, Peter Shift's good. Think
Peter Shift's not in the room because I'd like call
him out right now, and I call him an asshole.
I didn't say that. I thought I would call him
out immediately.
Speaker 1: I said, you know how many billions of dollars he
he has lost his people?
Speaker 2: I know he by the way, at New Orleans over
the weekend, Larry Leppard literally told him on the stage
to go fuck himself. Peter, You've cost your You've cost
people billion, you cost your clients billions of dollars. You
need to shut up and apparently like hitting the brickwall,
like hitting the brickwall. But I said, I said, like
even that morning, this is one of my one of
my impromptu applause ones. I said. That morning, so Peter
was out there on Twitter. I was reading my Twitter feed,
this morning, before I got started, before I came down
here for this, and Mike and Peter's like, I spent
an hour and within an hour I got chat. I
convinced chat GPT that Bitcoin's my digital goal. I said,
that's that's cute. Yesterday my daughter was telling me about
a story about how one of her friends spent half
an hour with chat chat GPT and convinced that it
was a horse. Very nervous applause for most of the audience,
and uproarious applause from about a quarter of the audience
because they understood it, Like, this is what we're dealing with.
Have you met the bitcoin maxies on Twitter? Do you
understand what to them those people think, I'm on Zionist shill. Okay,
we're at the point where they're they're so far gone
in this very simplistic worldview, and you've given that to them,
and you've not given them the tools to take that
one step further as to what that looks like now.
I go on bitcoin podcasts all the time, and I
read the comment I read the comment threads afterwards, and
I'm like, yeah, you can see the ones that don't
get it. They come after me on Twitter, and I'm like, dude,
I don't care. You're a Bitcoin maxie, like, I'm not
interested in that. Bitcoin may win eventually. You may be right,
I don't care. Still not gonna I'm not gonna say
I'm not going to say definitively what's what bitcoin is
going to do because I'm not going to say definitively
what's going to happen in twenty years because you don't
have any any more of a fucking clue about it
than I do. So stop LARPing like you know anything,
like it's it's just it's otherworldly. But you you, when
you live in the real world, you realize that you
have to interact with these institutions and these organizations where
you have actionable information. You know. For me, Pete and
I talk about Murphy about this both, you know, on
the air actually in my podcast and uh and and
off the air, I said, you know, bomb, I said,
for the the dividing line for me was today I
was I was going to work for Newsbats. I think
that was actually part of the speech as well, is
that when I went to work for news Max, I
went in with this mindset, with this story that you
that I had been. I thought I understood everything, and
then I had to start managing money for people, and
I took it very I took that responsibility very seriously,
because my name's at the top of the mast head
last I checked. And you know, I'm not going to
just this isn't a grift to me. If I want
to continue doing this, I have to be good at it.
And it became very clear, very quickly that I was
this isn't twenty thirteen through twenty fifteen, and nothing was
working hei to the gold Begger market right. And at
one point I finally had to, you know, take it
into my consciousness that maybe Martin Armstrong had a point
or two about that. And I even invoked the quantity
theory of money and all this stuff, just to remind
everybody to know, seriously, I'm not just talking in political
terms here. I sprinkled the whole thing with enough hardcore
Messsian speak for them to understand that I know my shit.
For the maybe the people and the audience who'd never
heard me speak before, or you know, read an article
of mine or whatever. Clearly Tom deal Lorenzo never had,
by the way, So I went, I said, you know,
I had to really start upping my game. Otherwise I
was going to fail and then I would have to
go back to digging ditches or you know, analyzing blood
or whatever the hell I was going to do for eleven.
So it's at that point that I really had to
seriously engage with the way the world actually worked and
then use this as a filter to understand how the
world actually operated and where, and use that as a
filter to figure out where we were going to go
next and really dig down. And it took me a
long time. It took me ten years to deprogram myself.
Speaker 1: And you know, we.
Speaker 2: All can do the same. There's a lot of smart
people in this room, well very a lot and a
tremendous amount of talent. Let's go down fourth and let's
let's kick ass and take effectively. Hey, let's go out there,
kick ass and take names. We we have something they
don't have. We have something that can to the truth. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think that the Powell trump bluster was k Faber?
Do you think that was Powell waving his stick around?
Speaker 2: That was all that was all? That was all set
up by the British. I was a British. That's an operation.
I was Trump. I don't think Trump understood what Powell
was trying to do. I think Trump was during COVID.
I think Trump was on the raw to pressure and
he wasn't handling the pressure very well, okay, And maybe
he was thinking in terms of the bigger picture, right,
how do I stay in power so that I can
finish doing what I need to do? These people a cockbox.
I now finally have a handle on what it is
to be president, and I'm gonna have a second term.
I'm gonna have a new cabinet. And he was really
worried about that. So, you know, any fight between Powell
and Trump during twenty twenty, I just don't, you know.
And then early in the campaign trail, you know, Trump
says whatever he has to say, wey his campaign. So
I don't. I just I don't even listen to Donald
Trump when he's campaigning, to be honest with you, because
it's all bullshit, because he says whatever he needs to say.
I mean, not all bullshit, but like a lot of
this stuff, I just I know that he likes to
throw stuff out there in order to get people talking
about what he wants them to talk about. And then
he came out and he said, yeah, I'll Palell's fine.
And then the day after the fo Then the day
after the election with the FOMC meeting, there's Powell at
the podium and some junior chick from Politico. So you
can read on the fucking payer letter three letters three
or five letters D A D A V O S
or S O R O S. It doesn't really matter,
same thing. And then yeah, whatever, blimey whatever says will
you step down as the president? Ask no, why not?
But but but doesn't want to give any more color.
Why should I No? It was all bullshit. It was
no different than when the just stop oil chicks showed
up at the ECB too, you know, to embarrass him,
and he's like closed the fucking door like that was
probably the last time he spoke to Christie in the Guard.
But they treated him that badly, like fuck you if
I'm Powell. So Trump, he gave Trump everything he Trump
needed to win. He held interest rates hi until September.
He choked the economy to lay a choking, desperate economy,
gasping economy at at the feet of Kamala Harris. And
now he's in a lower interest rates. He's gonna hold that.
He's gonna pull he's gonna pull back on credit's going
to normalize. He's already begun normalizing the yield curve. And
it's gonna be and and the Biden administration has been
you know, I said this all throughout twenty twenty four.
I said, the Biden administration is lying about the unemployment numbers.
They're lying about the housing starts, They're lying about this,
They're lying about that. Why because they want to campaign
on a stronger economy than they actually have. And at
the same time they want to complain that the Fed
is holding interest rates too high because you know reasons, Well,
which is it? You know, it's like that scene from
from Our Brother Art, thou get on the floor, don't move,
get on the floor. Well, what do you want us
to do?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: If we if we if we get on the floor,
we'd be in motion. And then you know, you know
what I mean. It's that, it's that kind of thing.
It's the same it's the same kind of even logic.
And I said, no, Powell's going to use the high
inflation numbers which they can't get around to hold interest
rates high. Enough to hold interest rates higher and you know,
every time they put out a bullshit economic indicator that
says that the economy is in better shape than everybody
thinks it is. This is because Powell more reason not
the cut, so we didn't cut, and then he cut
it the last possible minute, fifty bases points to let
the world know, no, really, the economy is in really
fucking shitty shape. And then that that broke the illusion
for a lot of people. Bond market sells off, the
long end of the eel curve sells off, blah blah
blah blah. You know, the euro starts to break down,
the pounds starts to break down, the boj was already
out there defending the end, like the all sorts of
career shit that I've talked about at length all year long.
I've done, you know, one hundred and fifty podcasts on
this shit, right, or one hundred podcasts on this and
and and explaining this on a day to day basis.
And anybody who doesn't believe me on this go back
and you know, subscribe for a month and listen to
every freaking market report since January, because I literally my
people are tired of me talking about it every Wednesday.
And every Sunday, every week all year. So you know,
that's been the dominant narrative in you know, in our
corner of the our little corner of the universe. And
I happen to have been right about it all because
it was very obvious what they were doing. So to me,
from that framework, seems like I was right. Great, Well,
Powell cuts fifty, then he cuts another twenty five. He's
gonna cut twenty five next week or two weeks from now.
He's gonna probably cut again at the end of January
twenty another twenty five. He's probably gonna get onto three
percent by the end of next year. And everybody's expecting
him to go to four because inflation is too high. Well,
they let that all wrong. He's going to invite another
round in places because he has to, because it's either
that or credit crisis, and he's not going to allow
the banks to melt down. He'd rather have another round
of commodity costs push inflation that pushes the CPI up
towards five or six percent. Well, but if Trump cuts
two twenty dollars with a spending the free market, we're
not going to have that either. And I'm telling you, folks,
and I'm I'm stating this unequivocally. They are going to
cut two trillion dollars in the budget. And it's and
it's the easiest thing in the world. And I'm not
going to say it because I don't want to jinx it.
But when it happens, you're gonna be like, oh my god.
It was hysterious in the face the entire time, wasn't I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, let's let's let me get you on another subject
that I know people want to get on, all right,
Federal Reserve, Wall Street? Do these institutions want a central
bank digital currency?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Why not under Powell?
Speaker 2: Because why would they already have the world's the most
dominant currency. Why would they Why would they Why would
they fuck with the Why would they fuck with perfection?
Speaker 1: Why would they want to happen? If there's a central
bank little currency, how does that affect Wall Street?
Speaker 2: It takes them out of the takes them out of
the game. Why do we need commercial banks? We have
a two tiered monetary system. Central bank lends into the
commercial banks to commercial banks, mark the money up and
send and lend it out to you. They make money
on the big and they make money on the four
x exchange.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what they If you.
Speaker 2: Take them out of that, you take them out of
that game. What do we need commercial banks for? Why
do they want to Why do you think? Why? Why
is everybody going around thinking that they're gonna steal They're
gonna bale in all our money. That's what they're gonna
do in Europe, Guys, I gonna do it here. We
don't have to do it here. It's a lie. Yeah,
Have they written it into our laws? Yes? Was it
written into our laws by a bunch of fucking debogie
and assholes who are trying to destroy the country? Yes?
Was that their plan for twenty twenty or they won
the election? Probably everybody asked why I smoke so many
fucking cigars?
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so let's let's finish on this the We
know that there are a ship ton of people in
a lot of different industries that need to be frog marched,
put on trial, and sent to jail. At least from
what you've seen of this of the cabinet that he's picked,
how likely are we to see that?
Speaker 2: I think we're going to see a lot more than
people are bracketing for I think let's start with the
easy one. Matt Gates was sent out there was chum right.
He was never going to be a turn general as
much as were wanted him.
Speaker 1: He's going to be special counsel and that's.
Speaker 2: What he's saying, and I like that idea. It's clear
that he's not going to be senator. And that's fine
as well, because you know, DeSantis has to get his
pounded flesh for what happened during the primary. Okay, but
I don't think I think Gates is best served as
assistant ag or special counsel or something along those lines.
They thought about this, and they did a better job
of game planning this out than I did. Well, they've
had four years to think about this. I'm not This
was not the only thing I was thinking about for
four years because I didn't know whether we were going
to win the election or not. So you know, so
it's it's just funny. But Gates Gabbard at d and I,
I think is the most most interesting of the picks
because d na I, the the dn I director is
a Director of Nation Intelligence, is a traffic cop between
all the intelligence agencies, and is the position that that's
the word I'm looking for that coordinates and implements the
will of the president from an intelligence perspective. Right, She's
in charge of the president's daily brief And you know,
and from what I understand having talked to I was
talking to Larry Johnson about this, I do believe was
Larry Johnson actually, and he said, of all the presidents
that you know, I served, you know that I I
know people have served under you know, people my friends
in the in the in the agency. Trump is the
only one that actually asked questions. Everybody knew what George W.
Bush wanted and they gave it to him. Everybody knew
what Obama wanted and they gave it to him. They
give Trump stuff and he would ask questions. So this
I so this MSNBC. You know, John Brennan image of
Trump is a disaffected you know, jackasses just sits on
the couch all day, watches Fox News, drinking die a coke,
screaming at the and tweeting into the into the into
the ship storm is false. Trump was always engaged with
his Presidential Daily Brief on intelligence, and he'll have somebody
who's there that he trusts to you give him the
information that he wants go get the information that he
wants and not bring any bullshit from the underlings who
don't give it to him. And I think that that's
I think Tulsey Gabbert is is. I mean, just as
from a personality perspective, I just think that she's the
right person for that job. She has the right temperament.
I think she has the right outlook. I think her
heart's in the right place. I think she's loyal, and
I think she's.
Speaker 1: But doesn't doesn't she doesn't she have to treat that
office different than anyone has since nine to eleven, because
since nine eleven that's basically like a sinecure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, she does. She has she has to
treat that office. Well, it's never it's only a twenty
year old office and only created it after my other.
Speaker 1: Right, So so you can make it anything you want
to now because it's only twenty years old, you know
it Really there's no definition to it, really.
Speaker 2: Right, there isn't. And and she can do with it
whatever she wants to do with And I think she
if she does that, and and in that respect, if
she does, there we go finally we get this fucking
thing lit so sad. All right, fuck you China, you
and your substandard freaking piazos like it's awful. Sorry, So
three lighters on my desk and no freaking work my uh,
maybe that's a sign from you know, whoever like made
Trump turned his head. So I think she does. What's that? So?
I think she does get to remake that image of
that office, or whatever image she makes she wants it
to be. I think she being in that position gives
a lot of hope to a want of junior analysts
at all the developments that have been trying to get
good information to fed up the chain sent up to
chain of command. And now that there's not the same,
it's not going to be the same path to advancement
that it was before. Yeah, I gotta remember these are
all these bureaucracies are all vertically integrated. Nobody everybody is
looking for the next promotion, and everybody just wants to
do what, you know, whatever they do to get the
next promotion. And the next promotion is well, tell us
what we want to hear about Afghanistan or or Syria
or this or that or anything else. You know, don't
don't hand me that shit. That's that's true. They don't
want to hear that. You give me something I can
send to that not that which is true you get
rid of if you even if you lessen that effect
by twenty five percent, that would be immense. That would
change the foreign policy in the United States. Going back
to how we let off this conversation, which was, you know,
they ask about the foreign policy pix in the cabinet
because that's the information that's going to be sent to
the president, at which point people like Marco Rubio are
now Trump's bitch. As Secretary of State, he does what
the President tells him to do. As senator, he gets
to act however the fuck he wants. Yeah, little Marco,
here is your minimal envelope quotient. It's this.
Speaker 1: People think that that was People think that was a promotion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not a promotion. It was clearly not
a promotion. Oh, it's lit.
Speaker 1: And the what about what are you thinking of RFK
being over basically a so many departments being having oversight
over more more of a budget than actually the military
at this point? Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I think it's fascinating. I love it. Are you kidding?
I love it. I think it's great, this is what
we need. You need people that are going to go
in there and they know where even if they don't
know where the bodies are buried. Now, if you have
the right person directing in the departments, then the people
who have been cowed into silence, were scared to you know,
to do what needs to be done, can now step forward,
like we're I ran across a really great quote by
Patent for this Mon's newsletter this we're trying to get
out the door tonight actually after I get done with
this call and says, you know, don't tell people what
to do, show them where they're go, and you'll be
amazed at what they come up with. And I think
that's the way we should treat this cabinet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, God, oh god. Yeah. When I saw this cabinet,
I mean, obviously there are some picks that that are
immediately concerning because just a lot of what they've said
about Israel, especially when you have what what Israel is
doing right now. You know, everybody's like, oh, you know, peace,
They're gonna have peace with Hasba. Yeah, they're bombing and
the shit out a Syria right now too. They that
started recently. And then you have the Hamah, then you
have the Hamas thing, and then you have you have
the West Bank, and you have Iran hanging over hanging
over their head. But what this what all of these
what all of these conspiracy, Well that conspiracy looking at
history and seeing that Trump's cabinet basically did whatever the
fuck they wanted and he had no say over it.
That has to people have to assume that people like
Elon Musk and Marc Andreesen and Peter Tiel and all
of these billionaires who put their put through in behind
Trump because they want to see actual structural change in
the way things are done, that they're going that they're
going to get fucked over in this. And the way
I look at it is the way they look at
it is if they get fucked over in this, then
twenty twenty eight rolls around and another Joe Biden or
Kamala Harris gets elected and they're fucked I mean, what
would have happened to them. All they did was by
themselves four years, and I don't think that that's what
they want. I think that the reason they did all this,
and the reason why Elon Musk put his basic life
on the line to do this and destroyed his reputation
in so many circles. Was because they realized that if
there isn't structural change, they have no future. And if
there is one thing I learned in libertarianism is that
somebody else's self you can benefit from somebody else's self interest.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, yeah, that's really I think. I think that's
like the whole thing in a nutshell, Just because someone
just because you may not like somebody's business or you
don't like who they've done business with in the past,
they may wind up with the same self interest that
you have, and their self interest can benefit you. And
that's and there's nothing and there's nothing wrong with that.
It doesn't have to be a purity spiral, it doesn't
have to be well, he didn't do it for the
right reasons, shut the fuck up? Who cares? Last I checked,
economists don't care why you did what you did. They
just know that you did it, and that by doing it,
you preferred to do that over everything else. So why
don't you take the fucking moralization and the bullshit and
once you go stow that somewhere else, and why don't
you go talk about that with your therapist?
Speaker 1: I do well.
Speaker 2: I mean seriously, I'm that seriously. I look at some
of the shit, I'm like, what the fuck's wrong with you?
Like I ran into this. I ran into this kind
of crap with my family all the time. Why did
you do X, Y and Z? Does it matter? Was
it the right thing or the wrong thing to do?
What was the right thing to do? But we don't
trust your motives? Fuck my motives, that's your problem, not mine.
I can tell you about I can lie to you
about my motives. Does it matter. I still did the
right thing, didn't I Why don't you judge me on
my actions as opposed to what you think my actions are?
Because you have a problem trusting people again, oppositional defiance.
Speaker 1: Disorder well, and not only that is and that's in
every that's in every fringe type of edge group. You
have people who have that. And not to mention that
this all is speculation, Yeah, it's not January twentieth. Yet
The only thing we have to worry about at this
point is are they going to push Putin to the
point where he's going to do something that can't be reversed?
Speaker 2: Right And we should be worried about that right now,
And Unfortunately, they keep opening up abysses in front of
us to force us to look down in front of
our feet, as opposed to looking up at the stars.
Neol Musk is trying to get us to look at
the stars. He's like throwing rockets in the space and
then catching the fucking things. Right, Davos is telling us,
look in front of you. There there's a hole in you.
You better watch out. Why is there a hole there? Well,
because we've just dug it. Well, fuck you, I don't
want to seven your goddamn hole. And well no, if
you can't step around, you gotta step in the hole. No,
what's in the hole? What's in the box? What's in
the box? You know? Seven? Like you know? Like, this
is where we are with these fucking people like they
never it never stops with them. So they put the
Hobson's choice in front of us. You know, you don't
give us what you want, don't give it. If you
don't give us what we want, we'll burn the world down. No,
because we know that you don't want to rule over
a nuclear wasteland. I call your bluff. I choose to disbelieve.
I have my here's my DND metaphor again, I choose
to disbelieve your bullshit. I got a natal I got
a twenty sided die in my hand, and my twenty
sided eye only rolls natural twenties. There are no ones
on that die, just natural twenties. Fuck you. I just believe,
like that's it. That's all you gotta do. Folks. Get
past the learned helplessness, because that's what it is. It's
learned helplessness. That's all it is. Be a little ungoverftable,
be a dickhead, laugh at these people and threaten to
give them wedgies. Yeah, stick their head in the life.
I don't do whatever you have to do.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't look at these people like they're
you know, it's like, you know, as much as I
talk about Jewish power and a pack and stuff like that,
I don't think that they control everything. If I thought
they controlled everything, if I thought they even influenced everything,
I'd be a bigger Zionist than Benjamin and Yahoo, because
I'd see them as superheroes.
Speaker 2: Right right they I mean, obviously, but they they fink
they they put it out there like they're omnipotent and
that you're supposed to believe all this ship and that's
just nonsense, Like it's just nonsense, Like they had a
had they had a significant portion of the population as
of you know, October, believing that they could they could
make hurricanes with lasers from space. And then we didn't
go to the moon. Like I'm sorry, I don't believe.
I choose. I choose to believe we went to the moon.
It doesn't matter if it doesn't matter if we want
or not. I can believe that we went to the
moon and still and still had Stanley Cooper film the
film the guy's bouncing around for the pr purposes, for
pr purposes, I can believe that I had no problem.
Speaker 1: You know what, and you know what it was? It
was nice middle class white guys who got us there,
not for not for black not for black women, not
for not for Then you.
Speaker 2: Think about what, actually you think about what the subtext
of we didn't go to the Moon really is about,
and you just hit on that part of it. Yeah,
middle class white guys with pocket protectors and slide rules. Okay,
this is I mean these I've said this before, Like,
has anybody ever really like watch go watch a one
hour documentary on the making of the SR seventy one
Blackbird and then tell us we didn't go to the
fucking moon, Like, fuck you, Like, just tell us we
didn't go to the moon. That fucking blame barely takes off,
for Christ's sake, because the way it has to like
it's insane. The engineering of that, of that that of
that plane, and tell me we didn't go to the moon,
like the moon is easy in comparison. The hard part
is getting the shitting thing up in the air. The
rest of it's just math. What about the Van Allen Belts.
A fan's fucking just debta radiation, Like look at my
skin oils? Could you know? Like, dude, it's just electrons.
It's like it's not even the like a little knowledge
turns into you know, a big thing. And even if
they did irradiate these men, even if they did send
them out there and give them cancer and everything else,
they went up there willingly to do it. They could
still do it, you know something. And those guys were
so fucking assholes that they would have gone knowing the
risk because that's who they were, because those were superman
and we have to tear that down. We have to
tear down human achievement. Whose agendas does that fit? We
have to tear down everything beautiful. We have to tear
down all the churches, tear down we have to blow
up all the cathedrals. We have to let the Jews
bomb thousand year old frigging neighborhoods in Elebanon and Palestine.
We have to. We have to let the vandals run
around France blowing up fucking churches. They burned fucking Notre
Dame to the fucking ground. Get what the fucking program?
That's your head gear and your guy? Do you think
we waste gooks for freedom? Come on, I'm sorry, fuck you.
We went to the moon. We went to the moon.
Speaker 1: Perfect things end on. You have a you have a
newsletter to write, and we we also have Thanksgiving to
get ready for. So tell everybody where they can find
your work.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Tom, appreciate it. Thanks Pete H.