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Speaker 1: Perfect Blake Snell said it best when he was coming up,
Speaker 1: it's his bobblehead night.
Speaker 2: Everyone knew.
Speaker 1: We knew, it's just what he does with that walk off,
Speaker 1: home run, ugly start to the game. Took eight innings
Speaker 1: for the Daughters to claw their way back, and what
Speaker 1: an exclamation point there. We also knew that today was
Speaker 1: going to be a mess on Wall Street right, Let's
Speaker 1: make no no, let's waste no time getting into it.
Speaker 1: Financial markets around the world are a mess. Taking a
Speaker 1: look at Wall Street down fourteen hundred points. We saw
Speaker 1: this coming as Liberation Day hit yesterday. Let's get to
Speaker 1: Sawhawk Manuelian. He is a managing director of the head
Speaker 1: of Equity Trading at web Bush Securities there in Pasadena. Sawhawk,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us as warning to make sense of
Speaker 1: all of this. Like I said, we knew, we saw
Speaker 1: the futures markets yesterday. We knew what was going to
Speaker 1: happen with the opening bell today, the uncertainty playing out.
Speaker 1: I guess the first question is how long do you
Speaker 1: anticipate this to last.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on my pleasure, and how
Speaker 3: long do we anticipate That's a great question. I don't
Speaker 3: think anybody has a good answer to that. So we're
Speaker 3: kind of seeing what happens next. But for the time being,
Speaker 3: we have to kind of go into this like this
Speaker 3: is here to stay until something changes. Now, we don't
Speaker 3: necessarily think that this will be here to stay, and
Speaker 3: we think that a lot of this will be negotiations
Speaker 3: in the coming I don't know weeks or months, but
Speaker 3: hopefully some of these numbers will come down from what
Speaker 3: they were just set at last night from the administration.
Speaker 1: So all imports to the US will be subject to
Speaker 1: at least a ten percent tariff, effective on the fifth Saturday.
Speaker 1: But the real news the incremental, huge incremental tariffs imposed
Speaker 1: on some of our biggest trading partners. You numbers higher
Speaker 1: than expected going into effect next week. We're looking at
Speaker 1: thirty four percent on China. China hit particularly hard by
Speaker 1: the new tariffs. What are we going to be spending
Speaker 1: more for?
Speaker 3: I think the easy answer to that would be probably
Speaker 3: most everything. China was hit particularly hard, Europe was hit
Speaker 3: particularly hard, Taiwan Vietnam all hit very hard, and so realistically,
Speaker 3: if these stays as they were set last night, you know,
Speaker 3: we will be paying a lot more for most things
Speaker 3: we're consuming. So it'll be it'll be very tough. It'll
Speaker 3: be very interesting how some of this, how some of
Speaker 3: this translates, and considering you know, Trump was just on
Speaker 3: television last week teasing that, you know, what he comes
Speaker 3: out with yesterday, when he comes out on Liberation Day,
Speaker 3: won't be as bad as maybe most feared. It was
Speaker 3: quite the opposite.
Speaker 1: So I was talking to some money people that I
Speaker 1: know this morning because this is not my wheelhouse, and
Speaker 1: they were saying, essentially, and I'm not asking for advice
Speaker 1: from you, but they were saying, essentially what you hear
Speaker 1: most of the time when there is market turmoil. Again,
Speaker 1: this is probably the worst day we're going to see
Speaker 1: on Wall Street since COVID I've been rating. But anyway,
Speaker 1: the money people are saying, don't make any moves right now.
Speaker 1: Don't panic that this will correct. Like you said, we
Speaker 1: don't really have a timetable for this. But if we
Speaker 1: know Trump, we know that this is his opening salvo,
Speaker 1: this is his opening point of negotiation, and that these
Speaker 1: will be dialed back somewhat as talks continue with other countries.
Speaker 3: I would agree with that, especially I would underscore the
Speaker 3: opening salvo and opening negotiation tactics from Trump and the administration.
Speaker 3: Having said that, I think that investors should be really
Speaker 3: just looking over what they have their portfolios and where
Speaker 3: they stand with an asset mix. It's it's I think
Speaker 3: very important for investors to remember that the second half
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four, you know, we had some huge
Speaker 3: moves to the upside and a lot of stocks, specifically
Speaker 3: within you know, tech stocks, and so we've had some
Speaker 3: nice you know year to well, not year today, but
Speaker 3: we've had some very nice gains over the last couple
Speaker 3: of years. We're seeing some volatility this year. The tariffs
Speaker 3: don't help, and so things are quite volatile right now.
Speaker 3: But again we're coming off of the last two years
Speaker 3: which have been very very good for stocks, and I
Speaker 3: think it's important for investors to know what they own
Speaker 3: within their portfolio and to possibly take a little bit
Speaker 3: of a more defensive posture within their portfolio. We've got
Speaker 3: bonds acting while this morning, treasury certainly have a bid.
Speaker 3: While the more cyclical and the more risk assets are
Speaker 3: down the hardest. But again we've got defensive like consumer
Speaker 3: staple stocks, healthcare stocks, utilities. These are all relative outperformers today.
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you, and I didn't ask our producer.
Speaker 1: Are you okay to hang on for one more segment?
Speaker 1: I just have another quick question about setting aside cash
Speaker 1: when the media attention is negative, If that's time to invest,
Speaker 1: can you stick around for another segment?
Speaker 3: Certainly?
Speaker 2: Awesome? Great.
Speaker 1: We're talking to Sahawk Manwellian. He's managing director, head of
Speaker 1: equity trading at web Bush Securities. Again a crazy day
Speaker 1: on Wall Street. We knew this was coming with the tariffs,
Speaker 1: but what does it all mean and what does it
Speaker 1: mean for your money? We'll continue talking to Sahawk when
Speaker 1: we continue it.
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Speaker 2: Just breaking this hour.
Speaker 1: Trump he said to be firing several National Security Council
Speaker 1: officials over concerns they're not sufficiently loyal. We were talking
Speaker 1: in the wake of the Signal app debacle of him
Speaker 1: having heads roll because of it, and I thought to myself.
Speaker 2: Well, that's not what he's going to do. These are
Speaker 2: his guys.
Speaker 1: That he picked, and Gary and I were talking about it,
Speaker 1: and he had parted ways with guys in his previous
Speaker 1: inner circle. You know, you think about Jeff Sessions and
Speaker 1: the like Mike Pompeo, but those were guys that did
Speaker 1: not remain loyal in his eyes, and I think that's
Speaker 1: where the heads begin to roll. Anyway, we continue to
Speaker 1: follow what's going on on Wall Street markets all down
Speaker 1: because of the reaction globally when it comes to the
Speaker 1: markets and the tariffs and what will the impact be.
Speaker 1: The Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney says they're going to
Speaker 1: be imposing counter auto tariffs in response to Trump's announcement.
Speaker 1: He says that these are going to be felt around
Speaker 1: the world world Trump's tariffs and that it is fundamentally
Speaker 1: different today the global economy than it was yesterday. And
Speaker 1: the markets they like certainty and that's not what they're
Speaker 1: going to get. For a while, we've been talking to
Speaker 1: Sahawk Manuelian, he's a managing director over there at web
Speaker 1: Bush Securities and Pasadena head of Equity Training, and Sahawk
Speaker 1: we hear from Canada that they're going to impose counter
Speaker 1: auto tariffs. We've heard that China has threatened retaliation. So
Speaker 1: not only do the markets need to contend with the
Speaker 1: Trump's tariffs, but now kind of awaiting how the globe responds.
Speaker 3: The volatility is so real for us here in the
Speaker 3: US markets as there's so much uncertainty of exactly how
Speaker 3: these things will ultimately shake out. Lots of you know,
Speaker 3: corresponding countries saying a lot of different things right now,
Speaker 3: but we just don't know yet, and so it'll be
Speaker 3: a wait and see. And so long as it's a
Speaker 3: wait and see type process here, the volatility will will
Speaker 3: most likely persist. And unfortunately it's a negative impact and
Speaker 3: certainly a headwind for for our domestic equities. And and
Speaker 3: again it's it's consumers being impacted here, business is getting impacted,
Speaker 3: and then you know, ultimately jobs will be impacted. It's
Speaker 3: just to what degree, And that's what we don't know yet.
Speaker 3: And we don't know if these stick and how long
Speaker 3: these tariffs stick, and if we get any you know,
Speaker 3: kind of adjustments to these tariff numbers that we saw
Speaker 3: from last night. So there's just a lot of uncertainty
Speaker 3: and that's what these that's what this market is clearly
Speaker 3: reflecting this morning.
Speaker 1: My buddy Tim Conway Junior let me know he's got
Speaker 1: extra tickets to Santa Anita this weekend. And I know
Speaker 1: how to bet on horses, and I know how to
Speaker 1: bet all day at the pigo table, blackjack, really, any
Speaker 1: games of chance, I'm your girl. But when it comes
Speaker 1: to money, I'm less sure. I read that if now
Speaker 1: could be the time if you were a gambling individual,
Speaker 1: if you're into playing around with your money, if you
Speaker 1: had money to play with, that it could be a
Speaker 1: time for deploying some of that when the media is
Speaker 1: negative when it comes to investments. Is that something you're
Speaker 1: hearing again? Not asking for your advice, but just it's
Speaker 1: something that I read this morning that now may be
Speaker 1: a time if you want to play around.
Speaker 3: Sure, I think that, you know, with with markets down
Speaker 3: as much as they are, it's really looking at what
Speaker 3: you want to invest in now, And you know, from
Speaker 3: our vantage anyways, a lot of the big winners over
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, namely tech stocks and consumer
Speaker 3: discretionary stocks, those have been laggard's year to date. We
Speaker 3: think that trend probably continues, and what we think looks
Speaker 3: interesting here are the more defensive equities. Defensive plays such
Speaker 3: as healthcare, consumer staples, and utilities. And I think that
Speaker 3: those which have been relative performers day year today, we
Speaker 3: probably continue to stay relative performers here to date. So
Speaker 3: we think a lot of those look pretty interesting here.
Speaker 2: All right, Sahawk Manuelian.
Speaker 1: He is the head of equity training at web Bush
Speaker 1: Securities in Pasadena. Thank you so much, Sahawk for your time.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate your analysis on a day like today.
Speaker 3: My pleasure. Thank you again for having me on.
Speaker 2: Of course, all right, we will stay on top of this.
Speaker 1: Keep an eye on Wall Street again, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: all the advice from all the people in the know
Speaker 1: is just don't look at Wall Street today, not until
Speaker 1: things kind of level off a little bit again. Like
Speaker 1: Sahawk and I were saying, it's Trump's opening salvo in
Speaker 1: terms of coming to the table and figuring out how
Speaker 1: the US can get less screwed when it comes to tariffs.
Speaker 1: Why do we pay so much versus what other countries pay.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's time for the constant, the conversation. And you
Speaker 1: got to believe that if this continues, if we're really
Speaker 1: hurt at home, and we're really hurt when it comes
Speaker 1: to our four case that Trump's not going to want
Speaker 1: to gamble with that kind of unpopularity. I believe that,
Speaker 1: but I guess we'll all just have to wait and
Speaker 1: see together, all right, Coming up next.
Speaker 2: I started reading this article this morning.
Speaker 1: It was in the cut and it piqued my interest
Speaker 1: because it's about a course at UCSB and it's called
Speaker 1: Critical Heterosexuality Studies.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what the hell is that?
Speaker 1: And I click on at because it's like new course
Speaker 1: to study hetero relationships.
Speaker 2: I'm like, why do we need a course to study that?
Speaker 1: And I click onto this article and I think, Ah,
Speaker 1: this isn't this isn't that interesting. But I read it
Speaker 1: for about ten minutes. I thought, well, that's interesting enough.
Speaker 1: There's a woman who's teaching this course. She's a sociologist,
Speaker 1: and it's the first of its kind to steatter us
Speaker 1: to study being straight. And it's fascinating and you will
Speaker 1: not believe some of the things that she says. She
Speaker 1: says that this class is going to be a place
Speaker 1: where we worry about straight people, where we feel sympathy
Speaker 1: for straight people. We're gonna be allies, she says to
Speaker 1: straight people. It is fascinating. We'll talk about it when
Speaker 1: we come back.
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Speaker 1: Who's ever in charge of Mark Chrisky and the way
Speaker 1: that he looks should get all the awards in television.
Speaker 2: My god, Mark.
Speaker 1: Chrisky has been He looks like he looked twenty years
Speaker 1: ago when I moved to LA, and he was recently
Speaker 1: out with all these vocal cord issue at KTLA for
Speaker 1: a few months.
Speaker 2: He was gone.
Speaker 1: He had a stroke I believe last year that had
Speaker 1: him out for a couple months and he is back.
Speaker 2: My god, he's incredible.
Speaker 1: He had another health scare a handful of years ago,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: But he looks great.
Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness. Fascinating, also fascinating. Strange science will
Speaker 1: be coming up. Keana has ended out of the park today.
Speaker 1: We've wondered about NASA and the underwear. Okay, I've wondered
Speaker 1: about NASA and the underwear, and I think other people have.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm alone in that, no matter how
Speaker 1: much Gary tries to tell me I am. But there
Speaker 1: was an article in Slate about a woman who used
Speaker 1: to work at NASA, and she, of course has a
Speaker 1: lot of friends who work at NASA, one of which
Speaker 1: is a program scientist for the International Space Station, and
Speaker 1: she says, we hear almost everything because they monitor astronauts health,
Speaker 1: their psychological state, overall comfort, everything, flight controllers always paying
Speaker 1: attention for safety reasons.
Speaker 2: But they hear all the things.
Speaker 1: They hear the burps and the farts and the heacups
Speaker 1: and the bathroom situations.
Speaker 2: All the human things, right.
Speaker 1: And the woman who writes the article for Slate says,
Speaker 1: for as long as I worked in science communication at NASA,
Speaker 1: people always ask me the same two questions. First, they
Speaker 1: want to know about the bathroom stuff. Then they want
Speaker 1: to know about the sex, which was new to me.
Speaker 1: This had not occurred to me. And she goes on
Speaker 1: to write how people have been interested in space sex
Speaker 1: since at least nineteen ninety two, when the first and
Speaker 1: only married astronaut couple joined the Space Shuttle mission and
Speaker 1: lived in space together. So we'll get into that coming
Speaker 1: up in Strange Science. See, now you're going to have
Speaker 1: to hang on till the twelve o'clock hour because you
Speaker 1: want to know.
Speaker 2: Just like me.
Speaker 1: That's all I've read, by the way, So we're alone
Speaker 1: in the knowledge department when it comes to space sex
Speaker 1: until we get to that in the meantime. I saw
Speaker 1: this article this morning in the Cut and it's about
Speaker 1: a new course at UCSB, and it's called Critical Heterosexuality Studies.
Speaker 2: And this is entertaining as hell.
Speaker 1: A sociologist's named Jane Ward teaches this. She's fifty one.
Speaker 1: The author describes her as a young looking fifty one,
Speaker 1: wears Birkenstocks, sandy blonde hair couple natural grays. And she
Speaker 1: is the chair at UCSB of the Department of Feminist Studies.
Speaker 1: And this is a new seminar that she is teaching,
Speaker 1: an intro to her area of expertise, straight studies. If
Speaker 1: this is new to you of this being an area
Speaker 1: of expertise, welcome to my club.
Speaker 2: It is also new to me.
Speaker 1: This is a rundown of a typical Monday in the class.
Speaker 1: This was January seventy two degrees at Santa Barbara, after all,
Speaker 1: and they said that twenty eight undergraduates start moving their
Speaker 1: desks into a circle there inside a classroom. You know,
Speaker 1: the usual college students, Baggy Jean's, oversized T shirts, a
Speaker 1: sticker on one laptop that says f tuition You know
Speaker 1: the usual.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The fun thing about the teacher, Jane Ward, the sociologist
Speaker 1: teaching the study or the seminar on heterosexual studies, is
Speaker 1: she is a lesbian. One student named Anthony says, I
Speaker 1: feel like this class is going to answer a lot of.
Speaker 2: Why are they like that? Why are they like that?
Speaker 2: He is a.
Speaker 1: Global studies major. Anthony, he identifies as gay. Sarah is
Speaker 1: another one. She is a student. She's a comparative literature
Speaker 1: major from Long Beach, and she says, I feel bad
Speaker 1: for some of my straight friends. They're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: my boyfriend got me flowers for the first time in
Speaker 1: two years. Danny is a psychology and brain sciences major
Speaker 1: from Dallas who is bisexual. She says she observed her
Speaker 1: self behave in ways that disturbed her when she dated men.
Speaker 1: She was more submissive, more self conscious, inattentive to her
Speaker 1: own needs. She wanted to understand why. Julia is another student.
Speaker 1: She says she's actually straight, but queer enough to be
Speaker 1: in the class. She says that a lot of straight
Speaker 1: relationships can create a type of insecurity. There is Simran,
Speaker 1: a feminist studies student psychology double major, actually describes herself
Speaker 1: as constantly confused about her sexuality but definitely not straight.
Speaker 1: She has trouble imagining being a parent without a man
Speaker 1: in the picture. And what's that all about? Why do
Speaker 1: I feel this way? She wanted to know, and the teacher,
Speaker 1: Miss Ward, Jane Ward, said, well, let's try to answer
Speaker 1: these questions in the next few weeks, she said, In
Speaker 1: this class, we're going to flip the script. It's going
Speaker 1: to be a place where we worry about straight people,
Speaker 1: where we feel sympathy for straight people again. As you
Speaker 1: can imagine, this class is the first of its kind
Speaker 1: approaching straight culture head on as its primary subject. As
Speaker 1: you can imagine, few academics have been drawn to this topic.
Speaker 2: There have been.
Speaker 1: Sex research classes, courses going on. You're thinking Freud, you're
Speaker 1: thinking Kinsey. Never has anyone sat down to say, what's
Speaker 1: all this straight stuff all about?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: It's only been kind of the wallpapers, the author writes,
Speaker 1: the wallpaper against which other exhibits are hung.
Speaker 2: It just is.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Coming up next, they dig into what the straight culture
Speaker 1: is all about, and it gets pretty insane.
Speaker 5: It goes on to talk about this course about how
Speaker 5: hard life is for women straight women, and how there
Speaker 5: have been decades of just expecting men to get better,
Speaker 5: but they haven't.
Speaker 1: It's it's insane, you guys. It is crazy. And I
Speaker 1: think my takeaway not to spoil it, not that you're
Speaker 1: you're waiting for it, but is you shouldn't go to
Speaker 1: your heterosexual relationship for your overall well being. You know,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't try to get everything you want out of
Speaker 1: life and out of your self improvement out of your
Speaker 1: heteros any relationship, homosexual relationship, heterosexual relationship, whatever. You can't
Speaker 1: go to your partner for everything. And I feel like
Speaker 1: this course is trying to say that because women straight
Speaker 1: women can't go to their straight boyfriend or husband or
Speaker 1: partner for all of this enrichment.
Speaker 2: Get rid of them altogether.
Speaker 1: It's fascinating to see their math on it. We'll get
Speaker 1: into it when we come back.
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Speaker 1: Forty awful, ending to a horrific story out of the
Speaker 1: Valley that ended up in In the Antelope Valley, the
Speaker 1: remains of a thirteen year old boy who was missing
Speaker 1: from the valley actually been found in Oxnard. He was
Speaker 1: supposed to be seeing a friend in Lancaster over the weekend.
Speaker 1: On Sunday, he was reported missing on thirteen. His body
Speaker 1: was discovered yesterday. We will get into more of the
Speaker 1: details about that. You're going to be hearing a lot
Speaker 1: about this story, and if you not, you should because
Speaker 1: his family has been speaking two different news outlets. I
Speaker 1: believe they are only Spanish speaking. But thirteen year old
Speaker 1: boy missing turns up body has been found now in.
Speaker 2: Oxnard, so we'll stay on top of that.
Speaker 1: We are talking about this new course at University of
Speaker 1: Santa Barbara u CSB, and it's called let Me Find
Speaker 1: It because it's of course very overly detailed, a course
Speaker 1: called Critical Heterosexual Studies, basically a class about straight people.
Speaker 1: And where we left off, we were talking about sociologist
Speaker 1: Jane Ward. She teaches this class. She is a chair
Speaker 1: of feminist Studies. She is a homosexual, she's a lesbian.
Speaker 1: She is teaching this course, first of its kind. And
Speaker 1: we were talking about the students and them just having
Speaker 1: questions about why I behave this way in a heterosexual relationship,
Speaker 1: or why can I not see raising a child without
Speaker 1: a man, these types of things, and the goal was
Speaker 1: to answer all of these questions. But it is fascinating
Speaker 1: to hear a lesbian teach a course on straight people,
Speaker 1: but she has also had her own time, her own
Speaker 1: personal experience in straight relationships as well. She points out
Speaker 1: that polls leading up to the last elections showed the
Speaker 1: widest gap in political views in American history. That men
Speaker 1: seem to be younger, men more conservative these days, and
Speaker 1: you're seeing women kind of move in the other direction,
Speaker 1: at least in the younger directions, and the reporter for
Speaker 1: the Cut Rights enough young American women are fed up
Speaker 1: with current realities to make a sizeable trend of their own,
Speaker 1: declaring themselves boy sober or voluntarily celibate, proclaiming themselves as
Speaker 1: part of the four B movement born in South Korea.
Speaker 1: We've talked about this rejects all sexual and romantic relationships
Speaker 1: with men. And I ask you, if you're my age
Speaker 1: or age adjacent, haven't we as straight women, If you're
Speaker 1: a straight woman, or even if you're not a straight woman,
Speaker 1: gone through phases in life where you swear off relationships
Speaker 1: or like, Okay, I've had enough of that. I'm just
Speaker 1: going to be by myself for a while right figure
Speaker 1: out what I want.
Speaker 2: It's pretty normal.
Speaker 1: It's just this day and age, we have to throw
Speaker 1: a label onto everything, whether it's anxiety or what have you,
Speaker 1: or now boy sober. It's just maybe taken some time,
Speaker 1: but anyway, we're labeling things.
Speaker 2: So those are the labels.
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, there was a gender scholar Asia Saronson
Speaker 1: who coined the term heteropessimism to describe straight women's expressions
Speaker 1: of regret, embarrassment, and hopelessness about their hetero lives. She
Speaker 1: spent some time in the Straight course talking about this
Speaker 1: woe is me, it's so hard to be straight? What
Speaker 1: a luxury that is for this country. At UCSB nonetheless,
Speaker 1: to be sitting in a classroom and thinking, oh my god,
Speaker 1: poor straight women, they have it so rough. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: this teacher, sociologist Jane Ward says, I think it's a
Speaker 1: really tough pill to swallow for.
Speaker 2: Many straight women.
Speaker 1: She says, her quote here that the hope that men
Speaker 1: were getting better with each generation, that on time, that
Speaker 1: in time they would be more committed to gender justice
Speaker 1: or equity, and it simply did not come true. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe she's talking about politics, Maybe she's talking about men
Speaker 1: in power, the failure of the country to elect a
Speaker 1: female president in twenty twenty five. Maybe that's what she's
Speaker 1: talking about, but in this guise, it seems like she's
Speaker 1: talking about men you're in relationships with if you're a
Speaker 1: straight woman, And that's a tall order to add for
Speaker 1: your straight partner, husband, boyfriend, to really be a champion
Speaker 1: of gender justice or equity, right, How often does that
Speaker 1: come up?
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: She approaches her subject, they say, through a miss mix
Speaker 1: of historical research, current cultural analysis, blah blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and spent some time on the other side as well.
Speaker 2: She says that we have decades.
Speaker 1: Of evidence that heterosexuality often fails women.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 1: She talks about how she joined a Mom's club at
Speaker 1: one point, a national support group for at home moms
Speaker 1: that has chapters around the country, and she says that
Speaker 1: so these are new moms, right. And she says she
Speaker 1: met a bunch of straight women in these groups and
Speaker 1: that she realized that dealing with these these women, that
Speaker 1: there was this unequal division of domestic l there were
Speaker 1: husband's infidelities, there were so many emotional needs unmet.
Speaker 2: She says it was heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: Well, these are new moms. You're not going to find
Speaker 1: a more hormonally active room than new moms who are
Speaker 1: dealing with all the emotions of having a baby. And yes,
Speaker 1: of course you feel like the division of labor is unfair.
Speaker 2: You're a new mom, it is unfair.
Speaker 1: Of course, that is the time when husbands are the
Speaker 1: most not loyal. There's been a lot of research about
Speaker 1: that people are pregnant or they are new moms.
Speaker 2: This is going to be a.
Speaker 1: Bad sample of people to talk to about the life
Speaker 1: as a as.
Speaker 2: A heterosexual woman.
Speaker 1: She also spends some time in this course talking about
Speaker 1: this book, The Tragedy of Heterosexuality, that came out in
Speaker 1: the fall of twenty twenty. This is all about a
Speaker 1: generation of working straight women six months into COVID.
Speaker 2: Well, what the hell did you think was going to happen?
Speaker 1: We were forced inside with each other for a year.
Speaker 1: Of course, you're going to have more strains on the relationships.
Speaker 1: She's basing the hard life of straight women off of
Speaker 1: new moms and women who wrote a book about it
Speaker 1: being hard stuck in the home with their husband for
Speaker 1: six months because of COVID. Eventually, it winds around to
Speaker 1: feminism and what was called radical feminism at the time,
Speaker 1: and she does spend some time talking about the need
Speaker 1: for women to become financially independent, which is something that
Speaker 1: I believe in. If you're financially independent, then you're free
Speaker 1: to leave the marriage or the relationship or whatever at
Speaker 1: any time. And that's the key people who to get
Speaker 1: stuck in any relationship, gay, straight animals, whatever the hell
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: You don't want to be trapped. That's just common sense.
Speaker 1: But the idea that there's a whole course now UCSB
Speaker 1: over the plight of the straight woman is fascinating. And
Speaker 1: what ah Luxury try to teach this in Ukraine. See
Speaker 1: how far you get? All right, coming up next, I
Speaker 1: thought it was only a matter of time. We've talked
Speaker 1: about e bikes and how on their face, how wildly
Speaker 1: dangerous it is to give a bike, a motorcycle light
Speaker 1: type bike to a kid who doesn't even have a
Speaker 1: driver's license. These things go up to fifty sixty miles
Speaker 1: an hour. Well, now we're seeing the crashes and we're
Speaker 1: seeing them be reported, and I think that the tide
Speaker 1: may be turning in terms of the rules catching up
Speaker 1: to the popularity of these bikes. And it's all for
Speaker 1: safety and I think it should be done. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about it coming up next on Gary and Shannon.
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