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<v Speaker 1>It's nice size, Dan Ray. I'm going easy Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Susan. And the bad news is

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<v Speaker 2>the Red Sox are losing six to one. The good

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<v Speaker 2>news is it's only the bottom of the third and

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<v Speaker 2>good evening everyone. For me, it's the top of the

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<v Speaker 2>first to night, the first show of the week. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is Dan Ray. We're here five nights a week.

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<v Speaker 2>We being myself, Dan Ray, the host of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>and producer Rob Brooks. We're here every Monday through Friday

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<v Speaker 2>night from eight until midnight. Occasionally Rob gets the night

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<v Speaker 2>off and occasionally I get a night off.

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<v Speaker 3>But for the most part, what.

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<v Speaker 2>You see is what you get, or what you hear

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<v Speaker 2>is what you get everybody, So welcome on in as

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<v Speaker 2>we start off another week here on WBZ. We are

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<v Speaker 2>sort of wrapping up your number eighteen doing this for

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<v Speaker 2>a while, and we should be doing it for a

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<v Speaker 2>little while longer, at least, I promise you on that.

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<v Speaker 2>And what we do in the eight o'clock hours, we

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<v Speaker 2>talk to four we call kind of like newsmakers. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not the biggest news stories in the world, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>interesting stories that are put together just about every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Either by our producer Marita, our executive producer, Marita McKinnon

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<v Speaker 2>Lorosa or by days when she's not with us, Karen Pussemi.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the deal. And then later on tonight we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about some other subjects which are probably a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more serious we're talking about. We'll be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the ice surge here in Massachusetts and its implications.

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<v Speaker 2>We expect to talk about a poll out of New

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<v Speaker 2>Hampshire which says that Governor Heally may not be in

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<v Speaker 2>as good of shape politically as perhaps some might think.

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<v Speaker 2>And hope to get to Ukraine's sneak attack on Russia,

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<v Speaker 2>which was very successful based upon all of the information

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<v Speaker 2>that we have at this point, and I guess I'd

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<v Speaker 2>like to talk at some point, if possible, about that

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<v Speaker 2>horrific attack out in Boulder, Colorado. It just seems that

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<v Speaker 2>every week there's another anti Semitic attack, anti Israeli, anti

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish attack in this country, and this one was particular horrific,

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<v Speaker 2>and the guy that did it should go away for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, and if I had mind, brothers take

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<v Speaker 2>go away for a short time, but eventually would be eliminated.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a story for another time. Let's start off

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<v Speaker 2>on a happier note and let's talk about the low

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<v Speaker 2>Summer Music Series, which is going to kick off it's

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<v Speaker 2>thirty fifth season, produced by the low Festival Foundation, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a five oh one seed three nonprofit with us

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<v Speaker 2>as the low Music Series Director. James McDonald, James McDonald,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Nightside.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you, sir, thy Dan?

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<v Speaker 4>It is great to be here to talk about the

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<v Speaker 4>Lowell Summer Music Series.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, talk about music in summer. How can we go wrong? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>This series operates without taxpayer funding by LOLL and it

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<v Speaker 2>is sustained by ticket sales and sponsorships and grants and

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<v Speaker 2>some community support.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's been going now for thirty five years. So

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<v Speaker 3>let's start at the beginning. How did it start?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you probably weren't there when it started, but

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<v Speaker 2>you must have some knowledge of how it started.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, well, you know there there was a group of

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<v Speaker 4>people and they they there was a lot of opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>in Lowell. There's still opportunity in Lull. But you know

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<v Speaker 4>there was a parking lot downtown surrounded by mill buildings,

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<v Speaker 4>you know that were built in the eighteen hundreds, quite

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<v Speaker 4>historic mill buildings and This land eventually became the low

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<v Speaker 4>National Historical Park and part of that land. Members of

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<v Speaker 4>the community said this would be a great place for concerts,

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<v Speaker 4>and a beautiful, green, lush park was built right surrounded

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<v Speaker 4>by these you know, eighteen hundreds and beautiful boarding house

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<v Speaker 4>mill buildings, and thirty five years ago, these concerts began

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<v Speaker 4>as small as they were, and it's really grown over

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<v Speaker 4>the years and now we're you know, bringing world class

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<v Speaker 4>talent to the stage, and you know, we like to

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<v Speaker 4>feel that we're doing something really special for the community.

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<v Speaker 4>As a nonprofit, we're self sustaining, and it is a

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<v Speaker 4>pleasure to be able to bring live music to a

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<v Speaker 4>place that beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's let's talk about some of the First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I love Lowell, Okay, I've been in a little many

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<v Speaker 2>many times, particularly when I worked as a TV reporter,

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<v Speaker 2>and a beautiful city. It's it's come back very strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Former Senator Paul Songus did a great job helping that

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<v Speaker 2>city grow and prosper. Let's the late great Paul song

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<v Speaker 2>As I should say, Let's talk about some of the shows.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I look at some of these names. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a big music guy. To be really honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>But some of these names I recognize. Tell us some

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<v Speaker 2>of the some of the shows that are coming in, don'nat.

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<v Speaker 2>It gives the day and time because we'll direct people

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<v Speaker 2>to the website.

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<v Speaker 3>But you got some heavy hitters coming in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're thrilled to be bringing in some great names

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<v Speaker 4>and we're you know, we're kicking off the summer on

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<v Speaker 4>June twentieth with Celtic rockers Gaelic Storm and they're really

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a great blend of Celtic music and a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of punchy rock and roll. And you know

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<v Speaker 4>that's highlighted actually by Natalia Kay. He's their fiddle player

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<v Speaker 4>who grew up in Lowell and performed every year at

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<v Speaker 4>the Banjo and Fiddle Contest, which we helped post in

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<v Speaker 4>the park. So it's a bit of a homecoming for

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<v Speaker 4>for Gaelic Storm, and that's followed in Junia.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, are they James?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they primarily Irish band?

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<v Speaker 4>They like you know, actually they're an American band, but

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<v Speaker 4>they play and they love and they honor, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the sounds of Celtic music. So it's a great blend. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, who else you got we're.

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<v Speaker 4>Bringing in Los Lobos, a great you know, Mexican American

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<v Speaker 4>rockers from La Story career. They may have even been

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<v Speaker 4>doing it longer than we have in our thirty five years.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's the kickoff weekend. We have Celtic rock and roll,

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<v Speaker 4>we have Mexican American rock and roll. It's a great bland.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, early in the summer, we're bringing in

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<v Speaker 4>Darlene Love, one of the icons from the nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 4>She'll be bringing that famous wall of sound you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to Lowell and bringing the hits, and you know, we're

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<v Speaker 4>really thrilled about that. And later in the summer we've

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<v Speaker 4>got some great Americana sounds from the Wood Brothers and

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<v Speaker 4>Sierra Hall, who's just a virtuoso mandolin player and really

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<v Speaker 4>an incredible talent. And then later in the summer, as

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<v Speaker 4>we look ahead, we've got Grace Potter coming in. She's

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<v Speaker 4>really made a name for herself out of the state

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<v Speaker 4>of Vermont. She's certainly gone worldwide and global now. And

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<v Speaker 4>then towards the end of the summer, a really fun

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<v Speaker 4>night called Let's Sing Tailor, and that night is a

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<v Speaker 4>live band tribute to the music of Taylor Swift. We

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<v Speaker 4>had them last year, it was just a really fun

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<v Speaker 4>sing along families of all ages and great to see

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<v Speaker 4>the kids out having some fun and singing along to

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<v Speaker 3>So this is great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great for folks who are going to spend summer

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<v Speaker 2>you know in Lowell. They can pick, they can find

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule. You got to it looks to me like

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty a very impressive website Lowellsummer Music dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>And we should emphasize that this is a nonprofit. But

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<v Speaker 2>in order to go, the tickets are not free. This

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<v Speaker 2>is you got to buy the tickets that you can

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<v Speaker 2>get a season pass. What should folks expect to spend

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<v Speaker 2>for most of these events? Is every event the same

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<v Speaker 2>or are some a little bit more expensive than others?

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<v Speaker 4>Every event is a little different, and you know that's

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<v Speaker 4>factored into the price of the talent that they've partnered with,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know the cost of specific shows to produce.

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<v Speaker 4>But we are also selling a season pass which gets

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<v Speaker 4>you into all twelve of our ticketing concerts and that

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<v Speaker 4>price is only forty one dollars a ticket. So we

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<v Speaker 4>work really hard to keep this affordable. This is not

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<v Speaker 4>a mega concert, you know, in a mega you know

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<v Speaker 4>park or an arena. This is really a great, down home,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a lo fi experience in terms of concert going.

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<v Speaker 4>You bring your own share, you can bring in a picnic.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a really wonderful way to see music that we

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<v Speaker 4>don't get to do as much anymore. So we like

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<v Speaker 4>to think that we're we're kind of holding down the

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<v Speaker 4>fort for that easy going concert experience. It's hard to

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<v Speaker 3>But by the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, I've counted the dates here, I count fourteen. You

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<v Speaker 2>keep talking about twelve. Are there a couple that perhaps, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we've missed a couple that that perhaps are open to

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<v Speaker 2>the public and there's no charge.

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on there?

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<v Speaker 4>I see some great other free events. So now, in

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<v Speaker 4>addition to the ticket and twelve concerts, the Lowell Festival

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<v Speaker 4>Foundation which is the nonprofit umbrella that we're a part of.

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<v Speaker 4>They are responsible and run the real, the legendary lowl

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<v Speaker 4>Folk Festival, which is an amazing weekend of free music

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<v Speaker 4>all across Lowell. So we play a small part in that,

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<v Speaker 4>although that is really run by the Lowll Festival full

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<v Speaker 4>festival team. But we also host the Banjo and Fiddle Contest,

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<v Speaker 4>which I mentioned earlier, which is really just a wonderful

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<v Speaker 4>get together of string players of all ages. It's that's

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<v Speaker 4>a multi generational affair. Song circles happening, traditional music, banjos, fiddles,

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<v Speaker 3>James, thank you for the information. Again.

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<v Speaker 2>That website is simply low. Summer Music are one word

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<v Speaker 2>dot org and you have a really good website. They

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<v Speaker 2>can get a lot of information. James, I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>spending some time with us. Best of luck with the

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<v Speaker 2>summer concert series.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Dan, I appreciate it. And thanks for kicking

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<v Speaker 2>A pressure, not a problem, my pleasure as well. Right

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<v Speaker 2>back at you. Thanks thanks again, James. Will we come

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<v Speaker 2>back for those of you are going to be traveling

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<v Speaker 2>this summer, We're going to be talking with Mark shield

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<v Speaker 2>Drop of Triple A and he's going to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>can save some money this summer ways to say on

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<v Speaker 2>both some big ticket items and also smaller purchases. So

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<v Speaker 2>Mark shield Drop with some free information offering tips for

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<v Speaker 2>a budget friendly summer getaway. Coming back here on nightside

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<v Speaker 2>here in New England. Back on Nightside, Dan Ray is here,

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<v Speaker 3>You were there.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get the phone calls. After nine, we have three

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<v Speaker 2>Back with one of my favorite guests, Mark shield Drop Triple,

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<v Speaker 2>a senior spokesperson, and he has some tips for a

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<v Speaker 2>budget friendly summer getaway. Mark, I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>all ears at this point. If there's any way to

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, definitely. So I'm going to go down the list

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<v Speaker 4>So let's say you're on the road. Gas prices are

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<v Speaker 4>The gas stations are a lot more expensive right off

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<v Speaker 4>And then fuel economy, you know, I think a lot

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<v Speaker 5>So that's going to save you some money if you

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<v Speaker 4>last year at three fifty one, maybe we feel a

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<v Speaker 3>Bit just saving money, let me tell you not.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, yeah, you're got to probably be a little

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, all right, So the old advice about booking a

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<v Speaker 4>balance your vacation days. Leave in the middle of the week,

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<v Speaker 4>out over the weekend. And then if you they're packing,

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<v Speaker 3>Don't forget anything.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, all the stuff that you need you

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<v Speaker 4>More, right, And then you get there and you buy

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<v Speaker 4>then the other flying tips. You know, when you're looking

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<v Speaker 4>when I fly at a logan, there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>there's a couple that right outside of Logan that I've

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred twenty bucks, you can save twenty or thirty

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<v Speaker 4>you some money, especially with a trip where you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>picking where to say you're right on that mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Logan's pretty expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's up to like seventy five or eighty

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can give them twenty a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't do it for free. They never drive you. Give

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<v Speaker 2>them some gas money. If they're kind enough to do

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, I'm sorry many exactly. Yeah, you bet. And

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<v Speaker 4>then when you're booking a trip and you say you're

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<v Speaker 4>you might have to a little bit, but you can stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay. If you stay outside of the city center in

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<v Speaker 2>be interacting mostly with other tourists, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 4>Do when the locals tell you, like, don't go to

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<v Speaker 2>Well, great advice. Now let me ask, is there a

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<v Speaker 2>way in which people can access the Triple A site.

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<v Speaker 2>There must be some site we can send people to

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<v Speaker 2>so they can. Probably, yeah, they weren't taking notes necessarily, so, but.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of yeah, a lot of the spools don't

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<v Speaker 4>have a great travel advisory Triple A member that's free

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<v Speaker 4>that comes with your membership. We have travel advisors that

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<v Speaker 4>will help you figure all this stuff out with you

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<v Speaker 4>go to triple a dot com. Your zip code has

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<v Speaker 4>to be punched in, but once you're there to click

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<v Speaker 4>on travel. We have all sorts of great articles and

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<v Speaker 4>all kinds of great content there.

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<v Speaker 2>But the way, I've been a Triple A member for

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<v Speaker 2>I have the family deal, and I got to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you it's one of the best investments I've ever made.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge Triple A supporter and a huge Triple A member,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess would be.

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<v Speaker 3>The best way to describe it. For years and years

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<v Speaker 2>You would be surprised if you had access and google

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<v Speaker 2>back and see how long I've been a member at

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<v Speaker 2>Triple A. At Triple A, I think you'd be very

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<v Speaker 4>Mark oh Dan, I wouldn't be surprised, but I am

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<v Speaker 4>very pleased, and you're so kind and we appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, a Triple A we really just value our members.

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<v Speaker 4>We're a membership organization, you know, so we're we're there

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<v Speaker 4>to serve our members. And it means a lot to

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<v Speaker 4>me that you're you can speak so highly of an organization,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's a lot of pressure on me representing an

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<v Speaker 2>So well, I'm telling you the truth, right, And I

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<v Speaker 2>have used Triple A resources. They have been they have

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<v Speaker 2>been great. I'm a I'm a big believer in Triple A.

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<v Speaker 2>And as they say, if you check out, I'm no lie.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a member of that probably for twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>years at least at least, and I think, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>view it as as a real good investment because over

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<v Speaker 2>the course of the years I'm probably ahead of you

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<v Speaker 2>guys in terms of the services that I've been able

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<v Speaker 3>So thanks very much for being there.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Hey Dan, thanks a lot. And you know, flash

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<v Speaker 4>that triple A card you get a discount at your

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<v Speaker 4>hotel or a museum. You never know this funny heels. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I like it, Hey begs Mark, We'll talk soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks very much, appreciate it great.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take a quick break for a news break, and

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<v Speaker 2>be talking with a very interesting woman who's a marriage

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<v Speaker 2>and family therapist. He's also the author of a new

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<v Speaker 2>number of moms who are reporting their mental health is

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<v Speaker 2>being excellent now is down a little bit from twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if COVID had much to do with this,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll get the skinny from Christy Taylor Jones when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back after the break, and we will also

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<v Speaker 2>talk about a one in thirty million orange lobster with

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<v Speaker 2>the executive chef of the chef at the Union Oyster House.

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back everyone, Thank you very much, Suzanne. We are

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<v Speaker 2>joined by Christy Taylor Jones. She's a marriage and family therapist,

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<v Speaker 2>also the author of a book entitled Touched by Suicide,

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<v Speaker 2>a personal and psychological perspective on the longing for death

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<v Speaker 2>and rebirth. Christy, we'll get to the book in a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>but I guess we're going to talk about the fact

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<v Speaker 2>sharp decline in their own self described mental health. Tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about it. First of all, welcome to Night's Side,

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<v Speaker 2>and feel free to take the conversation in whatever direction

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, thank you, and I'm happy to be here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>the study is disturbing, but I think it's mostly disturbing

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<v Speaker 6>because there hasn't been a lot of research, and what

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<v Speaker 6>And research often comes out and confirms what a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of us already know, is that motherhood is becoming a

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<v Speaker 6>more and more stressful endeavor. And as the study indicated,

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<v Speaker 6>only twenty five percent of moms report excellent mental health,

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<v Speaker 6>which is down thirty eight percent.

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<v Speaker 4>From twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 6>So we're talking about a period of time that includes

426
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<v Speaker 6>the pandemic but precedes the pandemic, So it isn't just

427
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<v Speaker 6>pandemic driven, and it's physical as well as mental health.

428
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<v Speaker 6>But I think that they've been focusing more on the

429
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<v Speaker 6>mental health.

430
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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you.

431
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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you a question, which as a guy,

432
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<v Speaker 2>it's difficult to ask, but I'm going to ask it

433
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<v Speaker 2>anyway because I like to ask tough questions, and that is,

434
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<v Speaker 2>have we reached a point where moms are beginning to

435
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<v Speaker 2>realize that what they hope to be able to accomplish

436
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<v Speaker 2>both having a career and motherhood and good marriage and

437
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<v Speaker 2>all of that, that maybe there's a little bit of

438
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<v Speaker 2>a sacrifice of happiness for what was described as self fulfillment.

439
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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not asking that question antagonet antagonistically, I want you.

440
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<v Speaker 3>To understand that.

441
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<v Speaker 6>Sure, well, it's an interesting question because actually the mental

442
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<v Speaker 6>health of fathers has also gone down, but.

443
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<v Speaker 4>Just not as much as mothers.

444
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<v Speaker 6>So you know, there's there's that. But the other thing

445
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<v Speaker 6>is that when you talk about and I think you're

446
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<v Speaker 6>suggesting that a mother's trying to juggle a career and

447
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<v Speaker 6>motherhood and everything else that.

448
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<v Speaker 3>You know.

449
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<v Speaker 2>I'm a baby boomer, so I'm not saying that mothers

450
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<v Speaker 2>in the fifties or sixties had an idyllic life. But

451
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<v Speaker 2>there was the idea that mothers needed to do more,

452
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<v Speaker 2>and there was a clearer division. And again, I know

453
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sounding like a really old guy when I ask

454
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<v Speaker 2>that I'm asking it is I assume we don't have

455
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<v Speaker 2>legitimate statistics to compare this to do to how happy

456
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<v Speaker 2>moms were in let's say the fifties.

457
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<v Speaker 4>The Sixtiesison.

458
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it.

459
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<v Speaker 2>Just seems to me that that a lot that that

460
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<v Speaker 2>women aspired to. Maybe it's it's it's not provided what

461
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<v Speaker 2>they had hoped for. It's really my question if the

462
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<v Speaker 2>if the drop has been it's a precipitous drop. At

463
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<v Speaker 2>sixty four percent increase in mothers reporting of fear to

464
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<v Speaker 2>poor health, I guess mental health.

465
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

466
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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think the way I would answer that is

467
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<v Speaker 6>that women did work in the fifties and the sixties

468
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<v Speaker 6>and so on. But what is happening now is that

469
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<v Speaker 6>the positions that women are rising to are much more demanding.

470
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<v Speaker 6>I mean, we sort of got what we wanted, right,

471
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<v Speaker 6>We got to you know, break that barrier between men

472
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<v Speaker 6>and women.

473
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<v Speaker 4>In terms of you know, job.

474
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<v Speaker 6>Equality, we're much more equal to men. But the problem

475
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<v Speaker 6>is that also the stresses, the long hours, the energy

476
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<v Speaker 6>that goes into those jobs is much more. And sometimes

477
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<v Speaker 6>women are the primary bread winner. I have I work

478
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<v Speaker 6>with a couple and the woman is makes most of

479
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<v Speaker 6>the money. The husband is no slackers in you know,

480
00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:08.640
<v Speaker 6>the industry, the Hollywood industry, but she makes most of

481
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<v Speaker 6>the money and she has to.

482
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<v Speaker 4>Do it all.

483
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<v Speaker 2>So what is the solution or do we just keep

484
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<v Speaker 2>heading down this road.

485
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<v Speaker 3>To unhappiness? Again?

486
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<v Speaker 2>This is I'm trying to find a light at the

487
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<v Speaker 2>end of the tunnel here and make sure it's not

488
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<v Speaker 2>a train.

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<v Speaker 6>If you know what I'm saying, well, absolutely, And I

490
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<v Speaker 6>think there are things that not just women but couples

491
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<v Speaker 6>can do because this, you know, parenthood is a shared responsibility.

492
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<v Speaker 6>And I think that mothers feel like they have to

493
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<v Speaker 6>be the nineteen fifties mother. I feel guilty if they

494
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<v Speaker 6>have a nanny, or if they're coming home late at night,

495
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<v Speaker 6>if they're not there for all of their children's events.

496
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<v Speaker 6>And also I think women are not trusting their instincts.

497
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<v Speaker 6>They look to all the experts, which is great because

498
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<v Speaker 6>you know, we need education, but there's a tendency to

499
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<v Speaker 6>lose track of what are a basic maternal instincts and

500
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<v Speaker 6>not to trust them, and I think that's a piece

501
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<v Speaker 6>of it too.

502
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<v Speaker 4>And the other thing is self care.

503
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<v Speaker 6>If women are trying to do it all, they're probably

504
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<v Speaker 6>not taking care of themselves. And that old adage of

505
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<v Speaker 6>you know, you have to have the oxygen for the

506
00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:44.559
<v Speaker 6>parent first before the child on the airplane, it's that

507
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<v Speaker 6>kind of thing. Is that mothers really do have to

508
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<v Speaker 6>make sure that they get the rest they need. And

509
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<v Speaker 6>this is a huge problem in the first few months

510
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<v Speaker 6>because women don't get the rest that they need and

511
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<v Speaker 6>that is a a big source of mental health problems.

512
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<v Speaker 6>But they also need time alone, time together and redefining

513
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<v Speaker 6>their identity as being different than their parents. The other

514
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<v Speaker 6>thing that women need, and I think actually couples need,

515
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:30.000
<v Speaker 6>is support. They really need a support system, and when

516
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<v Speaker 6>their kids are little, they may not have a parent

517
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:40.519
<v Speaker 6>or a family member, anybody to be there. Babysitters and

518
00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:42.839
<v Speaker 6>that kind of thing are hard to come by, and

519
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:46.880
<v Speaker 6>you would like for a family member to be there,

520
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<v Speaker 6>but often you know, couples live far away from their

521
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:54.000
<v Speaker 6>family and from their parents, not isolated.

522
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<v Speaker 2>That concept of the extended family again in the nineteen fifties,

523
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>where grandma grandma lived upstairs and there was another grandma

524
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:05.079
<v Speaker 2>or granddad around the block. I do want to give

525
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<v Speaker 2>you a chance to mention your book because it is

526
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<v Speaker 2>touched by suicide personal and psychological perspective, and the longing

527
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<v Speaker 2>for death and rebirth.

528
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

529
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<v Speaker 2>My understanding is that you have had a couple of

530
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<v Speaker 2>personal experiences with suicide or potential suicide.

531
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<v Speaker 4>I have.

532
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<v Speaker 6>I've had personal and professional experiences with it. And I

533
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<v Speaker 6>think that there are two parts in the book where

534
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:38.559
<v Speaker 6>I talk about myself and another family member, and then

535
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<v Speaker 6>another part in the book where I talk that two

536
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<v Speaker 6>different clients. In both of those cases, one of the

537
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:53.559
<v Speaker 6>two committed suicide, and the other cases they attempted it,

538
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<v Speaker 6>sometimes several times, and yet they came out head they

539
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:07.720
<v Speaker 6>did not. They not only were able to survive the suicide,

540
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 6>but to transcend and to transform themselves.

541
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<v Speaker 2>Another thing was that the other things which I wanted

542
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<v Speaker 2>to mention just briefly, I worked as a television reporter

543
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:21.599
<v Speaker 2>for many years, thirty one years for the CBS affiliate

544
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:24.400
<v Speaker 2>here in Boston, when people don't realize that that suicide

545
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:29.240
<v Speaker 2>is a lot more prevalent than people realize because suicide

546
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:34.480
<v Speaker 2>cases i'm not reported by television, local broadcasts, if there's

547
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.559
<v Speaker 2>a shooting somewhere, if there's a right, you know, some

548
00:28:38.559 --> 00:28:41.039
<v Speaker 2>sort of even they've only gotten to the point of

549
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:46.319
<v Speaker 2>reporting murder suicide. So again, somehow, some way, we have

550
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>to take off that sense of shame, and hopefully your

551
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>book I Suspect probably does it. And so I'd like

552
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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that people remember the title Touched by Suicide,

553
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<v Speaker 2>a personal psychological perspective on.

554
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:02.319
<v Speaker 3>The longing for death and rebirth.

555
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<v Speaker 2>So I hope that some of our listeners tonight, who

556
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<v Speaker 2>might be ever contemplating any thought of self harm, might

557
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<v Speaker 2>take an opportunity to read what you've written.

558
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<v Speaker 3>In your book.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm glad you mentioned shame because I have a

560
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:23.400
<v Speaker 6>whole chapter on it, and I think shame is one

561
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:30.559
<v Speaker 6>of the biggest factors in suicide. I really do, Christie.

562
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<v Speaker 2>I thank you so much. We could talk longer, but

563
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<v Speaker 2>I think we have probably raised more questions in people's

564
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.519
<v Speaker 2>minds that we've answered tonight. But hopefully we've got people

565
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 2>thinking about it, and can I have to ask some

566
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<v Speaker 2>of those questions, which were some are going to say, oh,

567
00:29:45.559 --> 00:29:47.200
<v Speaker 2>why would you even ask that question? I think that

568
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:49.240
<v Speaker 2>if you don't ask questions, you never get answers.

569
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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Christy Taylor.

570
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<v Speaker 4>Joe appreciate, Thank you, very welcome.

571
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good night. When we get back, we're going to

572
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<v Speaker 2>talk about one in thirty million shot. No, this is

573
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.839
<v Speaker 2>on a lottery ticket. This is an orange lobster. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back on night Side right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's

576
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<v Speaker 1>news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, it was a one in a thirty million

578
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:17.480
<v Speaker 2>shot with me is Rico de Fronzo. He's the executive

579
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<v Speaker 2>chef at the Union Oyster House, a landmark location in

580
00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Boston owned by the Great Joe Mulano. Rico, how did

581
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>you guys get an orange lobster?

582
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<v Speaker 3>You didn't order that one? I don't think.

583
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<v Speaker 4>No, No, we didn't know it. And Dan, thanks for

584
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:36.960
<v Speaker 4>having me on. Yeah. Basically, what it is we buy,

585
00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:40.599
<v Speaker 4>you know, hundreds of lobsters a day and just open

586
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:42.880
<v Speaker 4>up a box and there it was just looking right

587
00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.000
<v Speaker 4>up at us. So we separated it, put it in

588
00:30:45.039 --> 00:30:47.559
<v Speaker 4>the tank and we had in here about a week

589
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 4>before we found a nice home for it.

590
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<v Speaker 2>How how yeah, and it was it wasn't the stomach

591
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<v Speaker 2>of a customer. I'm sure that's that's for sure.

592
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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, that's this little guy actually will

593
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<v Speaker 4>he himself up in New Hampshire, up in basically at

594
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:06.440
<v Speaker 4>Hampton Beach in a place called the Explore the Ocean

595
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:10.079
<v Speaker 4>Ocean Aream, and we'll stay there until about Labor day.

596
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:12.880
<v Speaker 4>And then after labor day what they do is they

597
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:18.200
<v Speaker 4>take all the seafood lobsters, clams, crabs and so what

598
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.039
<v Speaker 4>they take them and put them back in the ocean

599
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 4>and give them an opportunity to live.

600
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<v Speaker 2>Really, so this guy, this guy is going to be

601
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:26.720
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be.

602
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Paroled or released. Wow.

603
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So you've been around this business for a long time.

604
00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:33.799
<v Speaker 3>How many.

605
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:38.519
<v Speaker 2>How many orange lobsters have you seen in your career?

606
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:44.519
<v Speaker 4>Three? Total? Two? We actually got two, believe it, about

607
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 4>a year and a half ago. We received two in

608
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:50.519
<v Speaker 4>a box, a male and a female, and we basically

609
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:52.359
<v Speaker 4>same thing. We looked for a place to put it.

610
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:55.960
<v Speaker 4>New England Quarium already had an orange lobster, so we

611
00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.440
<v Speaker 4>reached out to this group here and they took them

612
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 4>and placed them back. The ocean sent me a great

613
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:03.640
<v Speaker 4>video of them popping them right back in, so it

614
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 4>was kind of cool to see them actually put them

615
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 4>back and not be someone's dinner.

616
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what create I mean most lobsters all of us?

617
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:15.799
<v Speaker 2>Who have you been Toister House or or any other

618
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 2>restaurants where there's a lobster pound. You look at them

619
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<v Speaker 2>and they all look the same for the most part.

620
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean different sizes.

621
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<v Speaker 3>And all of that.

622
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<v Speaker 2>But there's blue lobsters and orange lobsters. Is there any

623
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.559
<v Speaker 2>other variety that that that I've missed here besides the

624
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:31.119
<v Speaker 2>regular rubs?

625
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:33.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you missed? You know the calico, which is basically

626
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:34.880
<v Speaker 4>a spotted lobster.

627
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:35.519
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

628
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 4>We also have basically we call them kind of Halloween

629
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<v Speaker 4>lobsters where you take a line right down the center

630
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.960
<v Speaker 4>of the lobster. One side is orange and one side

631
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:49.240
<v Speaker 4>is black. The most rare lobster is a white lobster

632
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.960
<v Speaker 4>in albino, which is like fifty million to one. Some

633
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 4>people say one hundred million to one. I haven't seen those.

634
00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:57.640
<v Speaker 4>So I've seen blue and I've seen orange, but i

635
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:00.920
<v Speaker 4>haven't seen any other ones. I'm into the union Oister

636
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<v Speaker 4>House okay.

637
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:07.839
<v Speaker 3>The orange the second rarest or, A blue lobster's even

638
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:08.519
<v Speaker 3>more rare.

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<v Speaker 4>No, blue are only about one in two million. They're

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<v Speaker 4>relatively common compared to the orange and the cali.

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<v Speaker 2>As I try to find one person out of two

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<v Speaker 2>million people in Greater Boston.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It is. And then there's also yellow as well, by

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<v Speaker 4>the way too, the yellow as so the yellow, the orange,

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<v Speaker 4>and the calico about one in thirty million.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let me ask you this. I get paid,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, money to ask dumb questions. Sometimes, do these

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<v Speaker 2>lobsters that are different colors and rare different colors, do

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<v Speaker 2>they live longer lives?

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<v Speaker 3>Shorter lives?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>What's their life expectancy?

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, it's it's pretty much the same as any other lobster.

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<v Speaker 4>That the key is if someone throws them in a

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<v Speaker 4>pot and cooks them.

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<v Speaker 3>Caught, right, I caught?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, jokingly, this lobster is lucky because obviously

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<v Speaker 4>it landed with us, and you know, we had the

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<v Speaker 4>space in our tank to keep it, you know, separated

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<v Speaker 4>from the others, and and we found a home for it,

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<v Speaker 4>which is unique.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Now, would a lobster that's a blue lobster

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<v Speaker 2>or an orange lobster. I don't know if anyone's ever

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<v Speaker 2>cooked one to taste them. Did they taste different than

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<v Speaker 2>other lobsters.

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<v Speaker 4>They all taste the same. But the difference is that

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<v Speaker 4>when you take a blue lobster or a colored lobster

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<v Speaker 4>and you cook it. Once you put it in the pot,

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<v Speaker 4>it basically the hot water and the boiling breaks down

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<v Speaker 4>the protein and actually changes the lobster back to red. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's actually they all look red in the end.

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<v Speaker 4>But because lobsters technically are actually red to blue in

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<v Speaker 4>color underneath the shell, and then depending on what they eat,

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<v Speaker 4>the diet and basically genetics mutation, that's how these lobsters,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, become different colors.

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<v Speaker 2>And again I'm asking questions that I have no reight

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you. I'd rather excuse me, Rico, but Joe

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<v Speaker 2>will tell you I asked, I asked too many questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Are orange lobsters?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they endemic to our part of the world, or

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<v Speaker 2>could you find one anywhere in the world?

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<v Speaker 3>And thirty millions?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, Well, those lobsters, which are called American lobsters,

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<v Speaker 4>they're off the East coast. You can catch you know,

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<v Speaker 4>our American lobses probably a little south of Connecticut, New

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<v Speaker 4>York that area and north and the Canadians obviously have

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<v Speaker 4>the bulk of the lopsters because the waters colder up

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<v Speaker 4>in North America than it is down here. So we

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<v Speaker 4>don't catch as many lobsters as we used to off

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<v Speaker 4>Rhode Island, Massachusetts, even in the Gulf of Maine, compared

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<v Speaker 4>to we did probably ten or fifteen years ago. Just

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<v Speaker 4>because the ocean is starting to warm up, the lobsters

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<v Speaker 4>are actually migrating further north.

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<v Speaker 3>Knowing how slowly a lobster moves.

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<v Speaker 2>Take that migrating north, that they have to have some

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<v Speaker 2>great instincts to do that which way we're going.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, they don't move quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not like fish, right, No, No, obviously they swim backwards.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, they propel themselves with their tail,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's how they actually moved through the water pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh some of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they would just be crawling on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom of the of the ocean.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Dan, when you come by the restaurant, I'll show

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<v Speaker 4>you in the tag when I drop one in how

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<v Speaker 4>they actually swim across the tank.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that sounds great.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's wonderful when you have a story

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<v Speaker 2>and the fact that you guys are going to donate this.

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<v Speaker 2>People have a chance to see it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if they'll be able to hold it. Hopefully they probably won't.

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<v Speaker 2>But but to know that this lobster will end up

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<v Speaker 2>back in nature, I think that's great. And I say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, hats off to you and hats off to Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's for sure. When you opened up went you

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<v Speaker 2>had it for a week. I got to assume when

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<v Speaker 2>you opened that. But are they coming to crate? I

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<v Speaker 2>assume all the lobsters.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, they're come in a large uh really most

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<v Speaker 4>of them can large board cardboard boxes basically a vendor

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<v Speaker 4>basically so many packs them with ice packs wet wet

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<v Speaker 4>paper and that's how they come into the restaurant. About

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<v Speaker 4>thirty in a box, depending on the size.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate Riky you taking the time. Please say

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<v Speaker 2>hi to Joe for me tonight, and congrat.

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<v Speaker 4>I definitely will deft thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>As they say.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody, when you're downtown Boston, check out the Union iceed

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<v Speaker 2>to house one of the great treats in Boston as

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<v Speaker 2>always for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's it's good.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having us. We really appreciate the support, and

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<v Speaker 4>I really appreciate you being a great friend of the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>How could you not be a great friend of the

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<v Speaker 2>union iused to house. The food is so good. Thanks Rico.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, thank you, Bye bye, Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>You're very welcome. Will we get back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about the big story of the

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<v Speaker 2>day here locally is the immigration, the ICE news conference,

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<v Speaker 2>and also the controversy over the arrest of a student

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<v Speaker 2>at Milford High School, not at Milford High School, but

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<v Speaker 2>the arrest of a student from Milford High School. To

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, and we'll have a positive conversation in

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<v Speaker 2>which all points of view will be respected. We're coming

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<v Speaker 2>back on Nightside right after this.
