Speaker 1: Streaming live on the Ihearts Radio WIB. This is Eye
Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen
Speaker 1: fifty eight.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to Whying the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera. You're jigansaws. Thanks everybody
Speaker 2: for listening. We got Henry at the board. We still
Speaker 2: survive this, KO give me affected this. So you know,
Speaker 2: you talked about Kaleb being the guy who's number two,
Speaker 2: who's a must, who's a must.
Speaker 3: It's funny because there's so many Yeah, I think I
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna I was gonna say Henry. I think,
Speaker 3: you know, because when Henry, when Henry goes off again
Speaker 3: in a bunch of different ways, he's getting rebounds, you know,
Speaker 3: protecting the rim, you know, hitting you know, hitting some shots,
Speaker 3: you know, and getting the ball inside because he can
Speaker 3: move really well with the you know, with the ball,
Speaker 3: you know. And if you got a game where Henry
Speaker 3: goes out for you know, fifteen and eight or something
Speaker 3: like that, that's that adds a lot to what they do, right,
Speaker 3: you know. And so I put Henry the next the
Speaker 3: next guy up on that just from the standpoint that again,
Speaker 3: if that happens.
Speaker 2: They're really good, Right, Okay, I'm gonna put. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put go ahead. I was just kJ kJ kJ. He's
Speaker 2: not gonna score a bunch of points. He's got to
Speaker 2: play some defense and not.
Speaker 4: Turn the ball out. That's all he's got to do.
Speaker 2: And he's been the X factor for a few of
Speaker 2: the people at REST. So I'm gonna go three with
Speaker 2: Jayden Bradley because he's the point guard. He has, he's
Speaker 2: the ball. He hasn't been the Jyden Bradley that we
Speaker 2: had seen earlier in the year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been a little The offense has been a
Speaker 3: little more chaotic.
Speaker 4: He's not getting to the basket and he's not getting
Speaker 4: in to the basket.
Speaker 3: But but obviously, you know, teams are scouting that and
Speaker 3: they're playing that.
Speaker 4: They're not letting him get to the basket. But you know,
Speaker 4: that's his game.
Speaker 3: Game, that's his game or you know, Gay, you know,
Speaker 3: getting in there and hitting the fifteen footer if he's
Speaker 3: if he's going to hit that twelve to fifteen footer
Speaker 3: every time that he's been and he's been taking pretty
Speaker 3: good at it last couple of games he has, he's
Speaker 3: he missed a few, know, because when I see him
Speaker 3: take that shot, I'm like, that's two points and then
Speaker 3: he's missed a few.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So I'm gonna go with a Waka four
Speaker 2: even though you need him. Yeah, and he's been you know,
Speaker 2: he is the big twelve. They bought him in the He.
Speaker 4: Is the big He's Yeah.
Speaker 3: He he's a big reason why you know what's he
Speaker 3: got six double doubles in a row or something like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he's a man in there, and
Speaker 3: and he's not taking any crap from anybody.
Speaker 4: He gets he gets tough rebounds.
Speaker 3: See that's the thing that I like with the difference
Speaker 3: between you know, a Waka and and and Masar.
Speaker 4: They're two completely different.
Speaker 3: Is the taller guy, but Walker I mean, but a
Speaker 3: Walka is the guy that you want him inside.
Speaker 2: It's a fastball and a curveball. Yeah, you know, on
Speaker 2: the ones one and the ones the other. Okay, So
Speaker 2: then you have kJ maybe or is it Bryant ahead
Speaker 2: of kJ because you need Bryant to.
Speaker 4: You need him, but you met him though, you need.
Speaker 2: Him in bed good because that's all you're getting, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because that's all.
Speaker 3: You're getting from you know, he's still you know, I
Speaker 3: saw a draft, a Monk draft.
Speaker 4: They had me eleven potential. Yeah, because, yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: it's the draft potential. I get that.
Speaker 3: But you know, and he does some great things, but
Speaker 3: there's something you know, he'll go and stretches and he'll
Speaker 3: just look like a kid.
Speaker 2: Foul people intentionally or or whatever stupidly. So yeah, no,
Speaker 2: but they need him because he's a threat from the perimeter.
Speaker 2: And that's why I like dol Orso. So you know,
Speaker 2: he's the starter, but he's not really a starter, but
Speaker 2: he needs to hit. If he hits three or four
Speaker 2: shots from the perimeter, that's gravy.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing that I think that that that
Speaker 3: Tommy has adjusted to, and that the offense is adjusted too,
Speaker 3: is that they're not relying on the three point shot.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: They know they they know they can't shoot, you know,
Speaker 3: a high high enough percentage to make it an integral
Speaker 3: part of their offense.
Speaker 4: It's enough a part of their offense.
Speaker 3: That they they've got to guard Caleb, they've got to
Speaker 3: guard Jayden, They've even got to guard Henry out there,
Speaker 3: and and uh and and and Bryanton del Orso. But
Speaker 3: they don't shoot so many that it's like everything runs
Speaker 3: through that. Everyzone's trying to get the ball, you know,
Speaker 3: get the ball on the inside of fifteen feet all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 4: Even Caleb, you'll see him.
Speaker 3: I mean, there've actually been a couple of times that I,
Speaker 3: you know, you see him get the one. I thought,
Speaker 3: why didn't you shoot that? And he drives the lane,
Speaker 3: you know, he gets a layup or you know, you know,
Speaker 3: gets it inside and then kicks it out to somebody.
Speaker 3: So I feel like he's doing he's doing a lot
Speaker 3: more besides just standing out there waiting for an open
Speaker 3: three pointer.
Speaker 4: And I think that's been a big deal to what
Speaker 4: they've been doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, uh in the bench, you know, here here's
Speaker 2: a nitty gritty baby.
Speaker 4: He asked what he has, and that's it, right, it's
Speaker 4: eight guys, it's eight guys.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's you know, Tray Townsend, it's the
Speaker 3: guys who have been starting with Vasar and the starting lineup,
Speaker 3: and then it's Tray Townsend, Carter Bryant and kJ Lewis.
Speaker 4: And you see the pattern, you.
Speaker 3: Know, when he makes his first substitution of the game,
Speaker 3: it's a it's a it's Vasar Bryant and uh and
Speaker 3: and kJ come in, you know, and it completely changes
Speaker 3: what they're doing. Yeah, you know, or yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: he subbed, he subbed. I know, he subbed dot Caleb
Speaker 3: at the first TV time out on on U on
Speaker 3: Wednesday night. And I thought that was unusual that you know,
Speaker 3: well he because usually usually the starting line goes in
Speaker 3: is then at least past the first was the scored.
Speaker 2: By that time, because if he really doesn't need him offensively,
Speaker 2: he's just gonna, yeah, rust them up. They were up
Speaker 2: a few, you know, they got up early. They had
Speaker 2: a twenty four point lead at one point. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then they here's the issue. They do this a lot.
Speaker 2: They let go of that lead and against good teams.
Speaker 2: Guess what happened? Then it keeps going, It keeps going.
Speaker 2: You know that's not good. Yeah, yeah, uh and guess
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen? And we talked about it. What's happen
Speaker 2: in the next the next five three four weeks, it's all.
Speaker 4: Good teams that side of maybe a Tuesday game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, starting well exeph as he was in the
Speaker 3: middle of that, starting with I, I you know, Iowa
Speaker 3: state that they got a s U and then they
Speaker 3: then it's Kansas and.
Speaker 4: It's nothing but tournament teams after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know, because you're you're if you're you know,
Speaker 3: you're you're seeded into the into the third round in
Speaker 3: the Big twelve Tournament, you're life playing a tournament team
Speaker 3: because we're going to get like eight teams in the tournament, and.
Speaker 2: There are let me tell you, there are very few
Speaker 2: better tournament teams than the Big twelve Tournament. Right, Well,
Speaker 2: I think we had the course of course, you.
Speaker 4: Know we had.
Speaker 2: Uh it's a fantastic tournament just for that the competition alone. Yeah,
Speaker 2: be on the alert because he'll be calling us in
Speaker 2: a little bit, Okay, Yeah, so uh no, you know, they've.
Speaker 3: Got one easy game, and easy to me, I mean,
Speaker 3: they're going to going to be the hell out of
Speaker 3: those guys, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, Bobby Hurley might not even have a job
Speaker 4: after that. Well you know that.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's it's just a mess up there.
Speaker 3: But you know, so from here on out, starting tomorrow,
Speaker 3: it's it's a grind.
Speaker 4: And not that it's a one and done.
Speaker 2: It's not a one and done in the next couple
Speaker 2: of weeks, but it's going to start to be that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you feel that way.
Speaker 3: You feel that you know, you might play three games
Speaker 3: in three days and then you got to turn around
Speaker 3: and go, you know, go to an n c Double
Speaker 3: A tournament. So uh it, you know it's it's starting.
Speaker 3: It starts now. It starts tomorrow with this game in
Speaker 3: Iowa State tomorrow.
Speaker 2: So before we go for the they get set up
Speaker 2: with Auburn. That's fantastic and that's a hell of them.
Speaker 2: So you have a big scheduled next week twelve, and
Speaker 2: then you have the the other games, the.
Speaker 3: Dukes and the Ramas and all the duke you got
Speaker 3: Alabama you're gonna have u c l A again, and
Speaker 3: and then Auburn.
Speaker 4: I mean that's our games. Kon oh, Yukon. They got Yukon. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you say they do. Then you, Clay don't.
Speaker 3: Have duke anymore. They're done with you. They've had their
Speaker 3: home home. So it's Yukon, Alabama, Auburn and in the
Speaker 3: u c l A next.
Speaker 4: Year for the addition to what we see the hyphenated
Speaker 4: teams that come into town, yeah, which are very few,
Speaker 4: but the big twelve.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then I think he also said they were going to
Speaker 2: go to eighteen game schedule, eighteen game Big twelve schedule.
Speaker 2: Really you said that on the show, we're gonna drop
Speaker 2: us from twenty to eighteen. Yeah, because they they don't
Speaker 2: want to play the common Skins before the you're gonna
Speaker 2: play him after the eliminated two games, Tommy. Tommy broke
Speaker 2: the news yesterday yesterday and the show, And I'm not
Speaker 2: sure I should be saying that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: I just hope Kansas comes down. Yeah, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: well they got it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That just means that there's gonna be teams that you're
Speaker 3: gonna play twice in a season. Fewer of those, but
Speaker 3: you know, you got to play everybody, you know.
Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens. If you have tickets. Great.
Speaker 4: I was disappointing the crowd, Henry called in yesterday.
Speaker 2: I was really pissed at the crowd. Henry called industry
Speaker 2: without terrible.
Speaker 3: You know it got me was again the usual, Right
Speaker 3: they pay, they're pissed off at the eight o'clock in
Speaker 3: eight thirty games, right and they get so you give
Speaker 3: them seven o'clock game. Guess what they don't show or
Speaker 3: they're or they're really late.
Speaker 2: Well, we saw the pictures. He turned to you guys
Speaker 2: and to look with this man.
Speaker 3: I said, yeah, why I made that comment at forty
Speaker 3: nine seconds left on the on the pregame clock, and
Speaker 3: the place was there were probably eight thousand people there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it did fill out nicely, better not didn't.
Speaker 3: Finish because they had those white toles on all the
Speaker 3: chair so it was easy to see where somebody was,
Speaker 3: where somebody didn't show for their seat.
Speaker 2: You right, you probably see him in the corner for
Speaker 2: five bucks somewhere. Got them all in so and my
Speaker 2: brother collected a whole bunch of them. He stole mine.
Speaker 2: Now I gave it to him. They were going to
Speaker 2: be hearing from Tom Tolbert any any moment here in
Speaker 2: the next couple of minutes. Uh, you know it's talking
Speaker 2: about favorite stories.
Speaker 4: What did you think of that thing?
Speaker 3: You know, because there I sat with Tommy and him
Speaker 3: getting a little choked up about and then a bunch
Speaker 3: of people are going on on social media saying, you know,
Speaker 3: why why is why is he you know, why is
Speaker 3: he emotional about this? You know the the coach got
Speaker 3: his five million dollars. You know, those guys are on
Speaker 3: the team they're criticizing him forgetting emotional.
Speaker 4: What Twitter? Twitter? Yeah, yeah, I think the reporter from
Speaker 4: Channel four. Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Can't remember her name, I'm sorry, but she posted she
Speaker 3: posted the clip, and all the comments about it were,
Speaker 3: you know, what a weenie he's been, and you know.
Speaker 4: Why is he upset that?
Speaker 3: You know, the coach got five million dollars. Those guys
Speaker 3: are grown up. They shouldn't know they're on the team
Speaker 3: and they should be there.
Speaker 2: Anyways, I'm like, really, you're not supposed to be a
Speaker 2: having no good stories here.
Speaker 4: It's the news. I just want to I just want
Speaker 4: to slap some people.
Speaker 3: Jennifer, Yeah, think Jennifin. You know she posted that and
Speaker 3: also a bunch of the responses were that tom what
Speaker 3: do you up said about Tommy?
Speaker 4: He got five million bucks?
Speaker 3: And but he said that when you somebody say it's
Speaker 3: not about the money, these are our families that are
Speaker 3: going through these things.
Speaker 4: Dad loses his job. It's tough on the kids.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't see that. I'm gone. We live
Speaker 2: in a world that's just kind of crazy.
Speaker 4: I want to slap the hell out of some people. Steve,
Speaker 4: I'm sitting over there prepared because it's going to be
Speaker 4: a bumpy ride.
Speaker 5: From here on out.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see in a lot of different areas.
Speaker 2: So no, that was that was good. In fact, it
Speaker 2: humanized him even more. And then the funny thing about
Speaker 2: is he goes emotional and then return to scheduled program.
Speaker 2: He gets on Bruce, what are you talking about? You
Speaker 2: know you're back to normal.
Speaker 4: What do you make of the relationship.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's I joke about it because Bruce gets it too.
Speaker 2: It's a give and take and a lot of it's
Speaker 2: tongue in cheek and they get each other. Yeah, but Bruce,
Speaker 2: Bruce doesn't purposely egg game on. He just asked the
Speaker 2: questions the way he asked the questions. Yeah, and he
Speaker 2: and then Tommy kind of does with that paplop dog
Speaker 2: kind of looks why are you doing this? He went
Speaker 2: with me a couple of times. One time I asked him,
Speaker 2: you know, you know you've been playing playing closes the
Speaker 2: game thing. I told you. They've been playing close over
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, last couple of weeks, the
Speaker 2: last few months. You know what I'm saying, It's been
Speaker 2: close closely. The last three had a four. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: they all been good games. I mean, is it couldn't
Speaker 2: kind of it was a relief game and he didn't
Speaker 2: go to his bench till one minute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know. And then that's the thing.
Speaker 3: I mean at the end, you know, when when they're
Speaker 3: up twenty, I'm like, this actually kind of feels good
Speaker 3: because we haven't had one of these run right, right,
Speaker 3: and you know, a game that wasn't tensed down the stretch.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, and that's when I got to that thing.
Speaker 3: That's been more fun sure, you know, watching you know,
Speaker 3: watching a game and not just saying, okay, let's get
Speaker 3: this over with, right, you know, let's want you know,
Speaker 3: these games are more fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think it's been great.
Speaker 2: I think those who who paid the money and didn't
Speaker 2: sell her tickets have enjoyed the season and will continue
Speaker 2: to enjoy the sea.
Speaker 4: I know, if I could afford some or whatever, I
Speaker 4: would buy something.
Speaker 3: I like to think that after a year of this,
Speaker 3: right going through this this year, that the fans will
Speaker 3: make that adjustment for next You realize this is how
Speaker 3: it's going to be. Instead of thinking I wish it
Speaker 3: was like it was before.
Speaker 2: Mentally, mentally yeah, yeah, I think you're probably right. Have
Speaker 2: to be recalibrated and what to expect because I think
Speaker 2: you did twice. You know that they're gonna that they're
Speaker 2: gonna beat the hell out of it. Just it's just
Speaker 2: more fun. I'm having way more fun it is. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you want to be entertained and welcome to the
Speaker 2: Big twelve. And even mentioned that too, this is the
Speaker 2: Big twelve. I get it, you know, I get it.
Speaker 2: I wonder if he was fine, he wasn't gonna probably
Speaker 2: go there, but for talking about the red shot because
Speaker 2: he doubled.
Speaker 4: Down on it, and he's right, it was a bad
Speaker 4: it was a bad call.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, So I don't know, it's it's
Speaker 3: I mean, I would I like the football season to
Speaker 3: be easy.
Speaker 4: I would, but it's not going to be right, you know.
Speaker 4: Uh no, you know, let me ask you, what do
Speaker 4: you think?
Speaker 2: I know you do this, But what's a crossover in
Speaker 2: terms of there's two different entertainments money value basketball? What
Speaker 2: we gotta call Oh, you're on the air, on the
Speaker 2: eye on the ball. Is this Tom?
Speaker 5: It is Tom?
Speaker 4: Tom? Are you doing Tom to? How the hell are you?
Speaker 4: Jagan's alas on the other side of the mic.
Speaker 5: What's happening?
Speaker 2: How's life for you? You look, let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: You look fantastic on video. Lost a lot of weight.
Speaker 2: I know, do you really look that good?
Speaker 4: He does.
Speaker 5: I don't know how good I look. I mean, look,
Speaker 5: there's only so much you can do with the face.
Speaker 5: But I try.
Speaker 4: You lost some weight obviously, Well, yeah.
Speaker 5: I lost. It's probably been five years since I had
Speaker 5: my you know, a order incident, and after that I
Speaker 5: probably lost about thirty pounds right away, and then I
Speaker 5: lost about ten more and I've kept it off. And
Speaker 5: I mean, look, the reason I keep my weight off
Speaker 5: is because my blood pressure is the biggest thing. And
Speaker 5: I figured, I'm gonna eat what I want to eat.
Speaker 5: I just won't eat as much, and I'll exercise. I'll
Speaker 5: get out and walk more. And if I if I'm lighter,
Speaker 5: that should help my blood pressure. And that's that's that's
Speaker 5: my contribution to my blood pressure, keep my weight down.
Speaker 4: Very nice? Can I say this? Oversation?
Speaker 2: So he reached out to Tom and he says, I
Speaker 2: could do this if one thing, if he's not on
Speaker 2: grandpa duty.
Speaker 4: Grandpa, that tells you how old. So Tom, you got
Speaker 4: grandkids or a grandkid.
Speaker 5: I got two two of grand kids. Camila is my
Speaker 5: oldest Weston's daughter, and she's going to be five at
Speaker 5: the I guess technically she's going to be five February
Speaker 5: of twenty twenty eight because she's a leafling, so she
Speaker 5: was born on February twenty ninth. Oh, so she will
Speaker 5: celebrate her birthday this weekend. She is five. And then
Speaker 5: my son Walker and his wife Kai I his wife
Speaker 5: Elisa have a son named Kai and he's about ten.
Speaker 4: Months ten months old.
Speaker 5: So yes, I have a granddaughter and a grandson and
Speaker 5: they are the absolute best. I love those kids. They're awesome.
Speaker 4: Well, see, when you think about it, Tom's really not
Speaker 4: that much younger than us. I know he's not. I
Speaker 4: mean I was.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think they how old were you in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty eight, twenty two, twenty three.
Speaker 4: Twenty two?
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. How about I say.
Speaker 4: Hold m now, you know, because then we've got to
Speaker 4: do math. Okay, hold are you now?
Speaker 5: I don't want to do math?
Speaker 4: How old are you now?
Speaker 5: That was not part of the questionnaire when I said
Speaker 5: reaching them on the show. So I'm fifty nine now,
Speaker 5: eighty eight was probably twenty.
Speaker 4: Two, twenty two. Probably, yes, Okay, she's fifty nine, he's
Speaker 4: only you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I shouldn't be shocked that you've got
Speaker 3: grand kids because you're an old guy like us.
Speaker 4: But you're not a fat guy. You're just old guy.
Speaker 5: It's the best. It's the best in Grandpa.
Speaker 2: So you started an you venture, tell us about it,
Speaker 2: and how much fun are you going to have with this?
Speaker 5: Well? Yeah, I got let go from doing the radio
Speaker 5: after twenty eight years. The radio industry is just kind
Speaker 5: of you know, it's in a different place it is
Speaker 5: right now, and I figured, I'm I got to do something.
Speaker 5: I'm sitting around and I took about four months off
Speaker 5: and it's boring as hell. I wake up, I go
Speaker 5: for a walk. I take Lou out for a walk,
Speaker 5: you know, me and my little Boston Terrier, go for
Speaker 5: like three four miles four or five times a week,
Speaker 5: get home, maybe cook up something for dinner. And then
Speaker 5: it's like, well, I got two more hours until the
Speaker 5: first game starts, or maybe even three hours, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: now what I'm gonna do? Okay? I read a little bit,
Speaker 5: read for an hour, and then I'm still scratched together,
Speaker 5: like how do how do I put together more time?
Speaker 5: So I just know this. I love sports, I love talking,
Speaker 5: I love entertaining, and I just said, let's go ahead.
Speaker 5: This is not a venture where I look at and go, Okay,
Speaker 5: I need to I need to pay my mortgage with this,
Speaker 5: I need to buy groceries with this. I just want
Speaker 5: to have fun with it, and if I end up
Speaker 5: making money, that's cool. I'm doing it with two other
Speaker 5: guys that are really cool guys. One guy's my former
Speaker 5: program or my form producer, and the other one I
Speaker 5: met through him, and they're just young guys and they
Speaker 5: want to be a part of it. We're just gonna
Speaker 5: have fun, have guests on that bought stories and talk sports.
Speaker 5: So now I'm looking I'm absolutely looking forward to it.
Speaker 5: So it's we came up with a really cool name.
Speaker 4: I thought.
Speaker 5: It's called the Tom Tolbert Show. It's really original. It's
Speaker 5: like Bill's Liquor. It is. We tried to come up
Speaker 5: with something kind of clever where it's like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 5: tired to say it's hurt in my head.
Speaker 4: Let's go to.
Speaker 5: Yeah on YouTube, Spotify, iTunes. I guess as they say,
Speaker 5: wherever you.
Speaker 6: Get your podcast, and I always go where wherever you.
Speaker 5: Get your bottom tier podcast, that's where we're gonna That's
Speaker 5: where we're gonna be. So yeah, we're just going to
Speaker 5: have fun, tell some stories. I'm gonna be doing shows
Speaker 5: with the people that I did shows with at camb Are.
Speaker 5: We did Brent Jones, former night er tight End. This
Speaker 5: week We're try to get Steve Young, former night or quarterback.
Speaker 5: I'll get Steve Kerr on me and him or Buddy
Speaker 5: so I'll get him on, and just people that I know,
Speaker 5: people that I've run across throughout the course of I've
Speaker 5: doing radio for twenty eight years and being in sports
Speaker 5: my entire life, and we just, you know, I just
Speaker 5: want to have a good time to tell us some stories,
Speaker 5: talk about sports in twenty twenty five and kind of
Speaker 5: see where it goes.
Speaker 3: Know, is it going to be on a regular schedule
Speaker 3: or you just kind of record it and throw it
Speaker 3: out there on social media and stuff. What are you
Speaker 3: gonna what are you gonna do with that?
Speaker 5: We've been live. We've been live all this week and
Speaker 5: we've started at noon or noon noon fifteen. Now that
Speaker 5: may change because I told him the guys that I'm
Speaker 5: working with. I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna play
Speaker 5: golf on Mondays. Ago, I'm not. I'm not going to
Speaker 5: be beholden to a schedule. So we might do Mondays
Speaker 5: and Fridays a little later. Today we did from the backyard,
Speaker 5: which is really cool. We just sat in the backyard,
Speaker 5: me and my buddy Bill Martin, who were retired after
Speaker 5: thirty eight years of being the weatherman here in the
Speaker 5: Bay Area. He worked at KTVU Fox affiliate for thirty
Speaker 5: three years. We had him on the air. No, I
Speaker 5: can't even count how many times had him on the
Speaker 5: air when I was in KMBR and I just love Bill,
Speaker 5: And it wasn't about the weather. It was about the
Speaker 5: stories that he tells me and the camaraderie that we
Speaker 5: have together, in the chemistry and the fun that we have.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, let's have billover, We'll have some beers,
Speaker 5: and we'll do the show up in the backyard. So
Speaker 5: we did that. Come to find out, not everybody's into
Speaker 5: beers at noon on a Friday. We might move that
Speaker 5: one a little bit later into the evening, kind of
Speaker 5: do like a happy hour type of show, like after
Speaker 5: daylight saving time clicks in warmer here in the Bay Area.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, the only thing I think we're
Speaker 5: going to try to do is three shows a week.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure exactly what time they're going to be,
Speaker 5: and it may end up being more, but I just
Speaker 5: thought three was a good number. We could do an
Speaker 5: hour and a half two hours a show and just
Speaker 5: talk sports, have some laughs, talk life a little bit,
Speaker 5: and see where it takes this. So I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 5: I mean it's a weekend, so it's hard to say, oh,
Speaker 5: this is great. I don't know what it's going to
Speaker 5: be like in the middle of baseball season, even though
Speaker 5: I love baseball and I can talk baseball and my
Speaker 5: hatred of the Dodgers should carry me for at least
Speaker 5: a half an hour.
Speaker 4: You need to stop. I got it. I mean, I've
Speaker 4: got a Dodger right now. Fell that's my paying time.
Speaker 4: Where's dog?
Speaker 6: I shouldn't have said that, No, no, no, I look,
Speaker 6: I was a Dodger fan until probably late seventies when
Speaker 6: they traded Garvey Lopes, saying Russell.
Speaker 5: What I go? You gotta be Kidney, You let the
Speaker 5: whole infield go. Like I love I love that team,
Speaker 5: and then I was like, you know what, I'm done.
Speaker 5: I'm done with these guys. So about nineteen eighty that's
Speaker 5: when I became an Angel fan because were easier to
Speaker 5: get to. We used to go to the Angel Stadium
Speaker 5: all the time and watch the one of the games.
Speaker 7: And they had a pretty good did a pretty good team, did.
Speaker 4: Nice run for a while.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Nolan Ryan and Hrew Burlison, de sense A Ford,
Speaker 5: Fred Lynn, Brian downing the Hulk, Like I those seems
Speaker 5: were great. Although I still there was a part of
Speaker 5: me that still stayed with the Dodgers through Fernando Mania
Speaker 5: because I love Fernando Hockey you not love Fernando. I mean,
Speaker 5: Fernando is incredible, So but I didn't really root for
Speaker 5: the Dodgers like I did when I was a kid
Speaker 5: in the seventies. And the reason I was a Dodger
Speaker 5: fan was they were on TV. Moore my grandfather, who
Speaker 5: was a baseball fan, was a Dodger fan, so he
Speaker 5: took me to a couple of Dodger games. But after that,
Speaker 5: I was like, you're gonna trade the Holy Infield. I'm gone.
Speaker 5: I think I forget where they all man. I think
Speaker 5: same place. I'm not sure if lost the Philly right
Speaker 5: away or maybe I don't know where he went, but
Speaker 5: all I know is they went with the Dodgers.
Speaker 6: And Rod Crewe was one of my favorite players growing up,
Speaker 6: so I love the fact that Rod Crewe was an Angel.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's when I started following the Angels. And
Speaker 5: it's funny because Steve Kerr, who obviously everybody and tooths
Speaker 5: on those is a huge, massive Dodger, so he always
Speaker 5: tells me, he goes, hey, got her for the Dodgers.
Speaker 5: A lot of fun, and I just I can't tell
Speaker 5: you what I tell him because we're on radio. I
Speaker 5: could say it on YouTube, but I can't play it
Speaker 5: on radio. But I'm like, no, I'm not gonna roof
Speaker 5: for the damn Dodgers. They go, I go with tanis nice,
Speaker 5: they go with the I go what I wish the
Speaker 5: Angels had.
Speaker 4: Somebody like him?
Speaker 5: Oh wait, we did for six years and then we
Speaker 5: screwed it up. So now I'm an Angel fan. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna stick with him. They got their champion chipping O
Speaker 5: two against the Giants, and I will enjoy that and
Speaker 5: it'll probably be another twenty years before they it's very sad.
Speaker 5: So Tom only played free playoff games. Very sad.
Speaker 2: So time before we go into a couple of quick
Speaker 2: stories that we had in the book, which you tell
Speaker 2: him so well. I want to say I had Harvey,
Speaker 2: Harvey Mason about a week ago, Matt Othika after that,
Speaker 2: and we've had Kerr, and we've had Sean. I wanted
Speaker 2: to talk to you and I asked this about Harvey.
Speaker 2: You guys that eighty eight group, you know, the first
Speaker 2: born here, kind of get him in the final four.
Speaker 2: You've been successful, Harvey's been great, successful, Steve Kerr, Sean
Speaker 2: obviously does what he does. All you got Matt's an
Speaker 2: attorney here. How did you guys become all these great
Speaker 2: people successful people? I, you know what, I have no.
Speaker 5: Idea, and I would not include myself.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's just one of those things that Kenny, you know,
Speaker 5: sometimes sometimes randomness just happens, and guys end up on
Speaker 5: the same team. And we really enjoyed each other. It
Speaker 5: was a really, really fun, fun group, and I think
Speaker 5: Lout was probably a pretty astute judge of character, and
Speaker 5: when he brought people into his program, it wasn't just
Speaker 5: for their skills. I mean, yeah, we had Sean, we
Speaker 5: had Craig McMillan, who were there. Both McDonald's all Americans.
Speaker 5: They are great players. But you know I was you know,
Speaker 5: I was a Juco guy, and yeah, I was like
Speaker 5: the California I think me and Dean Carrott shared the
Speaker 5: California State Player of the Year. So you know, I
Speaker 5: was okay, but I wasn't like a five star, four
Speaker 5: star guy. Steve certainly wasn't a five star, four star guy.
Speaker 5: And he just brought people in. They like, you know what,
Speaker 5: these guys can fit into my program, and I think
Speaker 5: I like their character. He probably shortly found it didn't
Speaker 5: take him that long to find out that I miss
Speaker 5: Judge Shulbert h He probably thought I was correct on Steve.
Speaker 5: I might have screwed up on Tover, you know, Harvey
Speaker 5: and Judd anything, Kenny, But you look at this, You
Speaker 5: look at the diverse talent that we had on that team.
Speaker 5: Like I played seven years in the NBA, went on
Speaker 5: a new radio for twenty eight years. Steve played fifteen
Speaker 5: one I think it was five titles as a player
Speaker 5: and now four as a coach. Sean was an All
Speaker 5: Star and now he's broadcasting for the Spurs. Matt is
Speaker 5: a lawyer and he's done the PAC twelve network, so
Speaker 5: he's been an analysts as well. Kenny, who should be
Speaker 5: in the damn Hall of Fame in the baseball was
Speaker 5: an incredible baseball player, an incredible athlete. Sewn Brooks, who
Speaker 5: has since passed twelve years in the NBA, had a really,
Speaker 5: really nice career. Craig McMillan, who's been coaching up here
Speaker 5: at Santa Rosa JC for like twenty five years. And
Speaker 5: I asked him one time, I go, do you have
Speaker 5: any desire to coach, you know, D one or something?
Speaker 5: Because I think he could. He said, no, I'm happy here.
Speaker 5: He goes, I have a great life. He goes, I'm
Speaker 5: next next to my mom and dad and I'm coaching
Speaker 5: at home. So it's just it was a really cool
Speaker 5: group to be a part of, and the fact that
Speaker 5: we were the first team to kind of break through
Speaker 5: and be a national team, and I always think that's
Speaker 5: where the national brand started.
Speaker 4: There was no question eighty eight.
Speaker 5: It's just and I know, and I don't talk to
Speaker 5: all those guys as much as I should. I talked
Speaker 5: to Craig every once in a while John. Every once
Speaker 5: in a while, Steve I probably talked to I don't know,
Speaker 5: pretty much every other day we'll chat about the the Warriors.
Speaker 5: Since he's coaching, I'm calling the games for the Warriors.
Speaker 5: But it was just a really special time and a
Speaker 5: really special group. And you know, I think I could
Speaker 5: speak for all of them that week, and I didn't
Speaker 5: even mention Harvey, who was probably the biggest, I mean,
Speaker 5: the biggest celebrity of all of us. The dude's on
Speaker 5: the Grammy, for God's say, you know, the head of
Speaker 5: the Grammy. So Harvey is an incredible, incredible things musically.
Speaker 5: So I'm just proud to be a part of that
Speaker 5: group and be a part of the group that kind
Speaker 5: of started the tradition of Arizona basketball which they carry
Speaker 5: on today.
Speaker 2: Before before, I don't want to run out of time
Speaker 2: with you, but let me say I want to talk
Speaker 2: about a story there serendipity. Tom Tobert comes here for
Speaker 2: just serendipity. Could you tell the story that made the
Speaker 2: book about about the Vegas recruitment and you not being
Speaker 2: at home?
Speaker 5: Ah, so I got recrid. I what did you call?
Speaker 5: I went to Irvine first? You see Irvine I got
Speaker 5: a scholarship out of high school, and then I just
Speaker 5: it wasn't hitting at Irvine. I wasn't just hitting it
Speaker 5: off with coach Bill Mulligan, and I told him I
Speaker 5: was going to transfer to Thridos, my junior college next
Speaker 5: to the house, and I'm planning I'm playing football. That's
Speaker 5: what I wanted to do. I'd never played football high
Speaker 5: school because their practices were way too damn early. I
Speaker 5: was like, well, wait a minute.
Speaker 6: Our basketball practices started six thirty in the morning. Football
Speaker 6: starts at six thirty in the morning during the summer.
Speaker 5: I go, I can't. I got I just know way I.
Speaker 7: Could do that.
Speaker 5: I hate mornings. Anybody knows me knows I hate. I
Speaker 5: hate mornings. It's a supreme night out. I stay up
Speaker 5: till twelve thirty one one thirty every single night. So
Speaker 5: I wanted to play football. I want to be a
Speaker 5: tight end at Critos. So go to Sorito's play football
Speaker 5: for about a month, just located my hips and I
Speaker 5: went back to basketball, which I was going to do.
Speaker 5: I was gonna play basketball anyway. So anyway, I played basketball.
Speaker 5: We have a good season, and I got recruited by
Speaker 5: Vegas and I go, oh, that'd be great going to Vegas.
Speaker 5: I got a chance to go against Irvine. They're both
Speaker 5: in the PCAA I believe at the time, and my
Speaker 5: dad was totally for it. He was like, oh, that'd
Speaker 5: be great, or to Vegas, get a chance kick Irvine's ass.
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, yeah, I love Vegas. My
Speaker 5: buddies love Vegas. I love Vegas, close the home, you
Speaker 5: guys go to the games.
Speaker 6: And then kind of as the season progressed, Arizona jumped
Speaker 6: into the prayer.
Speaker 5: And the more I.
Speaker 6: Thought about it, I got recruited by Arizona and I
Speaker 6: was gonna go to Vegas.
Speaker 5: I told him I was going. I told Tark, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm going to I'm going. I'm committed. I'm going to Vegas.
Speaker 5: Not it wasn't like anything that was god binding, like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm going. So the more I thought about it and
Speaker 5: my recruiting trip was I want to say it was
Speaker 5: Craig Bergman, who's still one of my best friends today.
Speaker 5: We go golfing all the time. He lives here in
Speaker 5: the Bay Area, had a very successful career coaching football
Speaker 5: up here at Monta Vista, Hi. Bruce Frasier who's Steve's
Speaker 5: assistant coach and Steve and we all went out to
Speaker 5: uh think no, no, no, Steve wasn't there because Steve
Speaker 5: was her bayer. It's Piggar Millon, so it's Craig Craig,
Speaker 5: the Cloverdale brothers.
Speaker 9: And uh.
Speaker 5: And we went out and it was funny because we
Speaker 5: went out to the Green Dolphin and they were all
Speaker 5: having beers and everything, and I wasn't even having many beers,
Speaker 5: which is kind of funny, but I was just kind
Speaker 5: of sitting there and doing their like.
Speaker 4: This guy's a dud.
Speaker 5: He didn't want to have fun, to want to party.
Speaker 5: But I was so tired because I woke up early
Speaker 5: that morning. You know, I went to Lout's house at breakfast.
Speaker 5: You know, Bobby cooked I think pancakes or whatever. If
Speaker 5: I went over there and had breakfast, and I was
Speaker 5: just like beat by the end of the night. So
Speaker 5: they were like, and this guy's thing gonna come here?
Speaker 7: Is he?
Speaker 5: And I'm like, you know, I went back, call my go.
Speaker 5: Those guys are pretty cool. I like those guys. I
Speaker 5: like Arizona, I like Loot. I think we're have a
Speaker 5: really good team. And do I really want to go
Speaker 5: to Vegas. The answer was yes, but do I want
Speaker 5: to go to Vegas? I love Vegas. I love going
Speaker 5: to the casinos, I love hanging out. My buddies will
Speaker 5: be up every weekend. I goes that a great mix.
Speaker 5: Probably not so yeah. Toward the end of the cycle, like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go to Arizona. I just think that's the
Speaker 5: best place for me. I loved it there. So I
Speaker 5: had to call UH coach working team was the assistant
Speaker 5: coach and it was signing.
Speaker 4: Danny calls me and.
Speaker 5: He says, are you ready to sign? We're gonna come down,
Speaker 5: you know, fly down there sign you. And I go, well,
Speaker 5: you know, I've actually decided I'm going to go to Arizona.
Speaker 5: Needless to say, he wasn't happy. Well, he was not
Speaker 5: super pumped to hear hear that news. So towards the
Speaker 5: end of the conversation, he said, well, I think you
Speaker 5: owe to Tark to tell him UH that you're not going. Okay,
Speaker 5: that's fine. He goes, go call you around five o'clock.
Speaker 5: I go, okay, I should be here. My brother, who's
Speaker 5: ten years younger than me, Jeffrey, had a little league
Speaker 5: game that day that I wanted to go to and see.
Speaker 4: So I'm at home.
Speaker 5: Waiting for the phone call. Five o'clock comes now, five
Speaker 5: oh five, five ten, five point fifteen. I go, well,
Speaker 5: maybe he just said screw it, he's not gonna call me.
Speaker 5: So I get in the car, strugg over to the
Speaker 5: Little League field to watch Jeffrey play. I come home
Speaker 5: and I pull up and I get out of the car,
Speaker 5: walk to the front door my next door.
Speaker 4: They were lyle.
Speaker 5: He said, hey, Tommy, he goes, he goes. Were you
Speaker 5: expecting somebody? I go, no, he goes, Well, he goes.
Speaker 5: Somebody pulled up in a black town car and got
Speaker 5: out and knocked on the door and then knocked on
Speaker 5: the window, looked in the window, knocked on the door again,
Speaker 5: knocked on the window, and then got in the car
Speaker 5: and left. And I said, holy crap, I go tarks.
Speaker 5: He must have flown down here. Oh man, I go,
Speaker 5: I'm so glad I wasn't home.
Speaker 6: Because I don't know if I could have. I don't
Speaker 6: know if I could have told him face to face
Speaker 6: that I.
Speaker 5: Wasn't going to go to Vegas and I was going
Speaker 5: to going to going to Arizona. And I was like
Speaker 5: I'm glad I was at home because that would It's
Speaker 5: funny because Vegas went to the final four that year,
Speaker 5: my junior year, and then we went to the final
Speaker 5: four the following year. We both end up losing. We
Speaker 5: didn't win the national championship. But I thought, man, if
Speaker 5: you would have been here, I would have been going
Speaker 5: to I would have been going to Vegas because I
Speaker 5: probably couldn't have told him face to fade. And the
Speaker 5: funny part was, and Matt Othik transferred from to Mexico,
Speaker 5: everybody thought he's going to Vegas because he's from Vegas.
Speaker 5: Goes to Arizona and that's where the midnight Lout thing
Speaker 5: started with U with uh. And then not only did
Speaker 5: the midnight Lout thing start because Tark accused Lute of
Speaker 5: coming in at the last minute and stealing players that
Speaker 5: were committed to Vegas. And Bob Baffert had a horse,
Speaker 5: he's a famous trainer from Tucson went to Arizona called
Speaker 5: Midnight Loot, which of course that sad on. I don't
Speaker 5: think I won, but it was a great was like,
Speaker 5: oh man, we got a horse name Midnight Loot, too.
Speaker 10: Incredible.
Speaker 5: That was the story.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was the story of kind of how I
Speaker 6: got to got to Arizona and almost narrowly.
Speaker 5: Missed going to Vegas.
Speaker 7: That's all.
Speaker 4: I've never heard that.
Speaker 5: The Yeah, I met my wife Laurie at Arizona and
Speaker 5: still have some great friends from Arizona, and you know,
Speaker 5: who knows. I might have had a great time in Vegas,
Speaker 5: but I can't imagine having a better time than I
Speaker 5: did at Arizona. The fan support was absolutely incredible going
Speaker 5: into McHale sold out thirteen thousand plus. Every single home
Speaker 5: game was awesome. And the friends that I was able
Speaker 5: to make and the teammates that I had at Arizona
Speaker 5: was just it was absolutely the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Tom, thanks a bunch. We got to take
Speaker 2: the break. We're just kind of singing, we got the break.
Speaker 4: Gotta go, Tom.
Speaker 5: Kind of I kind of know how radio goes. The
Speaker 5: great thing about YouTube and you just go as long
Speaker 5: as you want, you don't care about that.
Speaker 4: And you get to cut.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have the I actually had to center myself
Speaker 5: a couple of times while I was talking to you.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of going back and forth between YouTube mode
Speaker 5: and radio mode, and I'm like, okay, hold on a
Speaker 5: second path.
Speaker 2: No worries say that on radio, No worries. I had
Speaker 2: the finger on the button here just in days. He
Speaker 2: I bet you did as always. Man, Thanks a bunch,
Speaker 2: Be well, stay healthy. We'll I talk to you at
Speaker 2: some point some down the road.
Speaker 5: Yeah, anytime, guys. I appreciate you calling and thankful lot.
Speaker 2: I appreciate Tom Tobert appreciated that. Not one of the
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Speaker 1: This is I on the Ball with Steve Ramiro on
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my I'm about here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in today is my Friday?
Speaker 10: Guy?
Speaker 4: You got some girls cut cookies over there?
Speaker 10: What you got?
Speaker 2: I got some Steve camp Oh you said, all right,
Speaker 2: I think of every monster these are, yeah, new caramel.
Speaker 4: Okay, I guess I'm a dove cy dope kind of
Speaker 4: guy in the peanut butter cookie. Oh yeah, I have.
Speaker 4: I like I've run through a whole bunch of those
Speaker 4: this year. So you doctor know this? Yeah? Hey, and
Speaker 4: that got s called. Hey, guy, I was at the
Speaker 4: doctor a couple of weeks ago. I got told I.
Speaker 2: Was gonna say, you probably didn't really well, and this
Speaker 2: is okay, good you could, you know, continue to do
Speaker 2: what you're doing.
Speaker 4: Hell that.
Speaker 2: You do come in a bad time because everybody says,
Speaker 2: oh I was doing so well with their New Years.
Speaker 4: We got a call. Let's take the call.
Speaker 7: Hey, hey, j hey, Steve.
Speaker 4: Of course it sounds like I'm a little wired.
Speaker 5: How many you have three points?
Speaker 10: Really quick to get out of your way to the
Speaker 10: first one is, oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my son's that's why I have to drink. Oh,
Speaker 5: and then your show started with Jay coming. So these
Speaker 5: are two points. And the gremlins were taking over your right.
Speaker 4: We know that right showed up. Yeah, and the other one.
Speaker 5: I wanted this answer all the time, but the great
Speaker 5: guest of Tom you know, answered the.
Speaker 10: Question about the story of Midnight Lute. And I guess
Speaker 10: Tom pretty much covered it because that that's the only
Speaker 10: thing I didn't know, the nuts.
Speaker 5: And bolts of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had not heard that the park going to
Speaker 4: his house. Yeah, yeah, that was part of this story.
Speaker 2: And then there was the thing, you know, Tom has
Speaker 2: these stories because he was, you know, loot gun on
Speaker 2: his all the time, pretty defense, running back.
Speaker 4: And five, you know all that stuff. So that was great.
Speaker 10: I like that, and I liked because you know me.
Speaker 10: But I've got a good record going, Steve.
Speaker 5: I haven't flopped. But that's why when we get off quick, so.
Speaker 10: I don't drop it up.
Speaker 4: Did you, in fact let me ask you, let me
Speaker 4: ask you something. You gave us some gifts?
Speaker 2: I think you've got some two from from Howard maybe
Speaker 2: our first year with the cards, right with the cards?
Speaker 2: Did you did you give us former U eight cards,
Speaker 2: player cards.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I gave you, of course, I gave you
Speaker 5: and Jason you of a cards, and I got a bunch.
Speaker 5: I got so much more. I think.
Speaker 4: That mix somewhere. Yeah, maybe there was so much more.
Speaker 10: I would say. Colbert's the great character of everybody.
Speaker 4: We don't have to go the far coward. We got
Speaker 4: another call? We got another call?
Speaker 5: All right, well, thank you guys.
Speaker 4: Have you got another call? You're on the air and
Speaker 4: nine on the ball. Who's this?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 4: You're on You're on the air. Lis, You're on the air,
Speaker 4: Andine on the wall. There there we go. Hi, you're
Speaker 4: on the air. Who's this?
Speaker 7: Hello?
Speaker 10: Brian?
Speaker 4: Have you got any haircut?
Speaker 9: Ye?
Speaker 7: Let's go Hell No, Hey, I'm retired. I don't have
Speaker 7: to do that anymore.
Speaker 4: He's Steve. He came by. He's a hippie, is he?
Speaker 4: Brian's a hippie? Where'd he go? Where do you see him?
Speaker 4: He came up at the basketball game? Okay the other night?
Speaker 4: What's up, Brian?
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I'm looking forward to tomorrow's game. I have
Speaker 7: no idea what to expect.
Speaker 4: Do we see those line? Did you check the line?
Speaker 4: It was four and a half? Yeah, okay, you take.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm not as rich as Jay to throw
Speaker 7: my money away because I'm retired, you know, but you
Speaker 7: know what, you got.
Speaker 4: A post office retirement. You got money. So don't ever
Speaker 4: tell us that you don't.
Speaker 7: I mean not have it soon?
Speaker 4: Who knows have it soon?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I mean, if if they played like they did Tuesday night,
Speaker 7: they were going to lose by more than four. But
Speaker 7: if they played like they did against BYU, and I
Speaker 7: thought they played well except some of the defensive lapses,
Speaker 7: they got a shot at beating Iowa State. I mean,
Speaker 7: this team is fifteen to fifty every time they go
Speaker 7: on the court.
Speaker 2: Right, let me ask you that, because you say that,
Speaker 2: did you like let's go? Let's go from November the
Speaker 2: start to about December fifteenth? Did you like this team?
Speaker 2: And do you like I'm sure you like it now
Speaker 2: that but did you like that team? And were you
Speaker 2: had concerns? And now how much do you like it now?
Speaker 7: We all had concerns and we saw what was happening.
Speaker 1: You know, I like it.
Speaker 7: I like it now. Back then I wasn't too sure
Speaker 7: what we had, but at least I know this team
Speaker 7: may not be as talented as some of these teams,
Speaker 7: but they play hard and that's about really all you
Speaker 7: can ask. This is a this is a tough conference.
Speaker 7: There aren't any gimmes in this conference every night like
Speaker 7: we had in the pack. I mean, you go to
Speaker 7: you go to a game at Michale, You're going to go,
Speaker 7: oh my god. You know, we got to play well
Speaker 7: to win this game.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 7: It's not like it was before. But that's the same
Speaker 7: with every team in the conference, right, you know, And
Speaker 7: I think I think Tommy Lloyd's done a good job
Speaker 7: of getting them prepared physically for this. The metal part,
Speaker 7: I'm not too sure about that. I can't put that
Speaker 7: on Tommy Lloyd because he can't be standing out there
Speaker 7: watching him play and telling him.
Speaker 5: What to do all the time.
Speaker 2: Right, let me teuch to you guys, because you guys
Speaker 2: are old, grizzled guys, don't you think, Jay? And maybe
Speaker 2: you won't agree with us, but this is probably the
Speaker 2: hardest working team I've seen a long time. Yes, yes
Speaker 2: it is before Sean, you know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 3: We've said that, We've said that after the non conference
Speaker 3: I feel like they've played tooferent seasons, but it was.
Speaker 4: A non conference season.
Speaker 3: Alsoden, they get they get into a conference season, they're
Speaker 3: playing all these physical games and they're all good and
Speaker 3: they're hard and they're winning. And I feel like, yes,
Speaker 3: that that that this team is doing exactly that. You know,
Speaker 3: they just they work hard. They work hard on defense,
Speaker 3: and they now do they do some dumb thing lazy
Speaker 3: passes now and then and those kinds of things. Yes,
Speaker 3: But you know, as as Tommy has said a number
Speaker 3: of times, if the good far outweighs the bad, he's
Speaker 3: okay with some of the bad because you can't be
Speaker 3: perfect all the time. And that's how I see this
Speaker 3: team is that they they bust their asses out there.
Speaker 3: I really feel like they do. And Caleb Love was
Speaker 3: a perfect example of that on on on Wednesday Night,
Speaker 3: you know, guarding Madson and just wasn't letting the guy.
Speaker 4: Breathe and you just you just didn't see the stud
Speaker 4: you know scoring. You know, guard also be the lockdown
Speaker 4: defensive guy.
Speaker 7: Now, right, Like, I mean, that's probably the one thing
Speaker 7: I think has been the biggest change is you know,
Speaker 7: Caleb blub last year was the shooter. You know, he's
Speaker 7: still a shooter. But this year he plays a lot
Speaker 7: of defense, and that's you know, to me, that's one
Speaker 7: of the keys to his team is his defense, because
Speaker 7: they seemed to put him on the toughest guy of
Speaker 7: the guards.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he does a great He does a great
Speaker 5: job every time he goes out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, when kJ comes in, he gets that assignment.
Speaker 3: But when kJ and Caleb are not on the floor together,
Speaker 3: Caleb is the is the defender that that's doing that,
Speaker 3: and he's doing a good job of it. He's getting
Speaker 3: he's getting a bunch of steels and he gets It's
Speaker 3: like he knows if I get a steal, I get
Speaker 3: a dunk.
Speaker 4: Too, and he loves doing that.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I hope hopefully to my marldall learn not to
Speaker 7: make the lazy passes because that just I mean, there's
Speaker 7: you know, things happen right a very important part of
Speaker 7: the game, and we start having moment, then all of
Speaker 7: a sudden, we make a lazy pass. They get an easy.
Speaker 5: Basket, and then we don't get anything and they get
Speaker 5: another basket. Then all of a sudden, the game is
Speaker 5: close again. Yeah, they just have to I don't concentrate
Speaker 5: more when they're playing.
Speaker 4: I don't know but again, you're in the league. You're
Speaker 4: in the league where the teams are better, and they're
Speaker 4: going to make runs.
Speaker 7: At you every team, right, and I understand that, but still,
Speaker 7: you know, focus, but these players, yes, have to understand
Speaker 7: that it's a forty minute game, not a twenty nine
Speaker 7: and a half minute game. And you've got to keep
Speaker 7: your mental sharpness.
Speaker 4: The whole game.
Speaker 5: You just can't sit there and say, all got to make.
Speaker 7: This lazy pass. And you can see it coming a
Speaker 7: mile away too. It's not like it's a shock that happened,
Speaker 7: but you can see when they passed the ball, they're
Speaker 7: not Chris passes or sometimes they're not there.
Speaker 2: So Brian, let me ask you, because you probably expected
Speaker 2: the Big Trove to be what the Big Trove is,
Speaker 2: but did they kind of exceed the expectations of the league?
Speaker 2: I meantime, not just Arizona, but I'm taking the league.
Speaker 2: You know, you can Okay, it's.
Speaker 5: Got a bit of basketball, but only to the fact
Speaker 5: we didn't see it very much.
Speaker 4: You didn't know anything.
Speaker 7: Because because we're because we're watching the pack, you know,
Speaker 7: and but watching the Big twelve, I'm going it's not
Speaker 7: you know, even the crappy teams, play tough defense and
Speaker 7: played physical.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, No gimmes, thea aren't horrible. Oklahoma State beat
Speaker 2: the heck coups I State the other night. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I just don't know which is gonna make the tournament.
Speaker 5: Iowa State lost there, didn't have their two leading scores.
Speaker 7: I don't know if they're going to be there tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Now it's still hurt. Oh good you selfish, selfish man, selfish,
Speaker 4: no one your friends, that's exactly what are your friends with?
Speaker 5: J That's exactly right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well Jay talking a lot when.
Speaker 2: It makes sense. Now it's all coming clear. Thanks Brian,
Speaker 2: Thanks for the have a good weekend, enjoy the game tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Okay, you too.
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. Yeah, we only got about a minute, right,
Speaker 2: you gotta go. Thanks Jay for coming in.
Speaker 4: For an hour. Yeah, Allie out on there for a
Speaker 4: little while. But we spent a lot of time with Tobert.
Speaker 4: That was fun that.
Speaker 3: It's good to talk to Tom, you know, just one
Speaker 3: of the again, another one of those good guys who
Speaker 3: were just fun to fun to report on, fun to
Speaker 3: be around, fun to hang with, always fun to see him.
Speaker 4: On the road.
Speaker 2: He was he was good to his YouTube, he looks
Speaker 2: he looks very good his then, Yeah, I didn't realize
Speaker 2: how serious the situation was.
Speaker 4: But it's been five years.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, it's yeah. I read a thing you had
Speaker 3: heart served him. Okay, all right man, hey, thanks for
Speaker 3: having again. Well tomorrow, No, we will see tomorrow. We'll
Speaker 3: see Tuesday, Tuesday at the game. Thank you. Henry is
Speaker 3: always I'm good.
Speaker 4: Awaken everybody,