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<v Speaker 2>But right now it's time for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Ta Benn and Skin listeners, Here comes JT fun Tweets.

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<v Speaker 2>We're the round.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's go around the sports k TD fuck queens as.

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<v Speaker 4>All the sports.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, We're very excited about this because joining us

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<v Speaker 1>now is one of our favorite humans period end of story,

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<v Speaker 1>like one of our favorite human beings, but also the

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<v Speaker 1>very best when it comes to talking Dallas Cowboys football,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can catch him doing that with d l LS.

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<v Speaker 2>They are kicking ass.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very exciting to see what they're building here in

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Fort Worth and uh he leads the way on

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of their exquisite Dallas Cowboys content with the

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal team around him as well. Jeffrey Kavanaugh joins, Boom, wow, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>The longer introd.

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<v Speaker 1>I did I did I properly set that up? I

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<v Speaker 1>want to I want to plug what you're doing and

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<v Speaker 1>what you guys are building over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I give it enough love? Anything else I need

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<v Speaker 2>to say?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's good.

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<v Speaker 4>D l LS Sports. It's on YouTube and then wherever

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<v Speaker 4>you get podcasts. And then also just make sure you

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<v Speaker 4>follow me personally on YouTube, jeff Kavanaugh, you know, because

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<v Speaker 4>it's about me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, we can see you in a way the

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<v Speaker 1>listener can't. So that backdrop with the bricks and the

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<v Speaker 1>shelves and some of those books, I'm trying to read

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<v Speaker 1>the titles. They look like fantasy books, which makes me think,

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<v Speaker 1>are you in your place or you at d l

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm in my place. I did build one random

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<v Speaker 4>brick wall in my guest room. Said that I have

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<v Speaker 4>a studio, so I put in a brick wall.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks amazing, dude, except it's made of paper. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>If I hit it, you would see my bricks move.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, it looks like real bricks. I thought he was

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<v Speaker 2>at DLS. He lied to me. It looks Hey, you're

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<v Speaker 2>still lying to women.

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<v Speaker 4>I see, Yes, some things don't change.

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<v Speaker 2>He's never lied to women. I made that up.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Jeffrey, Uh, we're all on alert. We feel like

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<v Speaker 1>at any minute, I don't know if Jerry World the

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<v Speaker 1>white Smoke's gonna come out or whatever going to be. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's Brian Schottenheimer's the coach. It feels an ever. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it shouldn't, but I'm I'm stuck in just this

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<v Speaker 1>quick sand of doom and gloom, and I'm worried that

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Schottenheimer is going to be the next coach of

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it seems that way.

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<v Speaker 4>Ish Clarence Hill, who I work with and has been

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<v Speaker 4>covering the Cowboys for a.

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<v Speaker 3>Really long time, expected that maybe today.

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<v Speaker 4>Or perhaps as early as or I guess as late

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<v Speaker 4>as tomorrow, we could hear that Brian Schottenheimer's the head coach.

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<v Speaker 3>But now there's some Pete Carroll chatter.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, you'll either have a guy that nobody

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<v Speaker 4>would ever consider to be their head coach or a

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<v Speaker 4>guy that people used to have as their head coach

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<v Speaker 4>and no one would consider it anymore, and we could

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<v Speaker 4>get that guy instead, because we're the Cowboys and only

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<v Speaker 4>the best you need to play around here, And by

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<v Speaker 4>best I mean whoever. Jerry is super comfortable with that

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<v Speaker 4>no one else wants because Jerry's smarter than everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>You left out the very important word affordable.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, the cheapest. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So earlier before KT left town, he was started talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Pete Carroll and he was trying to connect the

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<v Speaker 1>dots between Pete Carroll and Brian Schottenheimer. And I got

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<v Speaker 1>confused because he made it sound like they broke up

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<v Speaker 1>in Seattle, And then I was like, so, then why

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<v Speaker 1>would they be connected in any way here? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>any connection? And from your perspective that somehow Brian Schottenheimer

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<v Speaker 1>and Pete Carroll are here together.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it's possible. Now

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<v Speaker 4>I can't claim to know all about their breakup. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean I remember, like, now we're in a place where

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<v Speaker 4>Jerry's gonna have to try to sell us on all

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<v Speaker 4>sorts of things. But I remember when Brian Schottenheimer was

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<v Speaker 4>Pete Carroll's offensive coordinator in Seattle, and that was when

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<v Speaker 4>the whole world was begging them to let Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 4>throw passes. And then you know, once you leave there,

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<v Speaker 4>you just say, wow, that was Pete Carroll.

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<v Speaker 3>And then now that.

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<v Speaker 4>He's been the offensive coordinator for Mike McCarthy, they got

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<v Speaker 4>to sell you on well, Mike McCarthy was really not

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<v Speaker 4>letting him do what he wants.

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<v Speaker 3>And so, like, I don't know how you sell Brian Schottenheimer.

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<v Speaker 4>He is a visor guy, which I like he's a

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<v Speaker 4>visor guy because that's a that's a courageous move. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if you guys remember when we were coworkers. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I decided I was going to be a visor guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it lasted like four days because they're not comfortable, so

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<v Speaker 4>shout out to him.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a toughness that comes with visor guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, I thought you were saying pisor guy like

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<v Speaker 1>the pharmaceutical companysor yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>A bold move for a commercial. I'm available.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a bold move to be a visor guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a similar move.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a white sunglasses guy for a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days and it was a bad look. It was hard

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<v Speaker 1>to pull and I had to immediately abort that one.

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<v Speaker 3>That one't while you were a big truck guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that was a big truck guy for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>but not simultaneously white sunglasses guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Very few people dabble in a big truck phase. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>once you go big truck, you stayed big. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just dabbled. You did it for like three months. No,

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<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't get my big truck in our parking grog.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's something that we love to attribute to uh

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<v Speaker 4>with all your christing the woman, but uh, I was

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<v Speaker 4>an F one fifty guy for probably like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>five or six years, maybe longer than that, and I

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<v Speaker 4>never ever felt good parking that sucker. So we can

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<v Speaker 4>make fun of people all we want. I'm him. I

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<v Speaker 4>can't do truck ever again. It's just too big for me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's too big for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Handle it like a Nissan now, but are you driving.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm driving Chevy Blazer.

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<v Speaker 4>For Chevy Blazer, I like a mid sized or on

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<v Speaker 4>the smaller side, SUV so that I can pretend I

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<v Speaker 4>could haul stuff around and do all these different things

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<v Speaker 4>that I'll never actually do, but the idea that I

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<v Speaker 4>could is in my mind, and I can park it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're talking to the great Jeff Kavanaugh. Obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>should be subscribed to his YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a beast. So tracking in your mind right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. Tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me the top three candidates who not who you

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<v Speaker 1>would hire, who you think they are most likely to

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<v Speaker 1>get the job, and give me the percentages on each

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<v Speaker 1>right now as it stands, right now in your cabin.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll brain.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see right now, let's say Brian Schottenheimer fifty eight percent,

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<v Speaker 4>Kellen Moore thirty two percent, Pete Carroll six percent, Prime.

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<v Speaker 3>Four percent. What is the I want Dion?

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<v Speaker 4>I want Dion because I just think, look, if we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna quit, let's have fun. I don't want to quit

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<v Speaker 4>and be boring. Let's quit trying to win and pretending

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<v Speaker 4>even pretending that we're trying to win, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it with some style, you know, bring me

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<v Speaker 3>coach Prime.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Jeff Cavanaugh of DLLs Sports on their Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>coverage as well as his own YouTube channel, Jeff Kavanaugh.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all a's in there. C A V A N

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<v Speaker 2>A U g H. Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody that's listening right now has subscribed yet. I'm watching

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<v Speaker 3>the live number forty. I need one.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, we need one. Just one person subscribe. Go

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<v Speaker 1>to YouTube, subscribe to Jeff Kavanaugh's YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 2>We need He's looking at it right now, we're watching.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at it.

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<v Speaker 3>What's looking at it?

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<v Speaker 2>What number? You at?

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<v Speaker 3>Forty?

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<v Speaker 2>He does not need any more?

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<v Speaker 3>I do. I need one.

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<v Speaker 1>That has to be the largest YouTube following in DFW

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<v Speaker 1>for anyone. Have anyone named Jeff that's bigger than you

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<v Speaker 1>out of anyone?

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<v Speaker 3>Watch? Is it like ninety four thousand?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Okay, watch it? Okay, all right, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so, Jeff, I want to get back to I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be very focused here. What is the percentage

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<v Speaker 1>likelihood in your opinion that Jason Whitnen is somewhere on

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<v Speaker 1>this staff?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>And this is this is the ultimate Ben Rogers vindicated.

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<v Speaker 4>This is like a this is a year's in the making.

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<v Speaker 4>Ben Rodgers vindicated. Uh, yeah, they're gonna I think that

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<v Speaker 4>whatever they're going to do, especially if it's Brian Schottenheimer,

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<v Speaker 4>all they're doing is slow playing and not having.

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<v Speaker 3>The balls to do what they're setting up to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, Like the Jones family worships at the altar of

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<v Speaker 4>Jason Witten, and I'm not saying you shouldn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think Jerry and Stephen Jones look at Jason

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<v Speaker 4>Whitten and they go, oh my god, that's America. Like

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<v Speaker 4>it's just a matter of do they think that they

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<v Speaker 4>could give him the head coach job now, or could

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<v Speaker 4>they hire somebody who's going to be one of the

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<v Speaker 4>lowest paid coaches in the league that will accept that,

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<v Speaker 4>that will accept the fact that they're gonna do whatever

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<v Speaker 4>they want because this coach has no other prospects to

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<v Speaker 4>ever be a head coach, so they're gonna pay him

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<v Speaker 4>very little. They're gonna slap Jason Witten on his staff,

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<v Speaker 4>call him the tight end coach or something, and it'll

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<v Speaker 4>be a setup. They'll they'll have another offseason like they

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<v Speaker 4>did last time, where they won't try their best, they

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<v Speaker 4>won't have a good season, and maybe after one year

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<v Speaker 4>they'll slap Witten in there. They're gonna set somebody up

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<v Speaker 4>to be the fall guy. They're gonna hide the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that they're cheap and more interested in their own pockets

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<v Speaker 4>the next coach, and then Witne will be on the

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<v Speaker 2>I love Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it, And hey, we're not at zero anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>Forty six people have subscribed in.

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<v Speaker 2>The last Fantastic. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go crushing. You guys are crushing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we want to see. We want to see

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<v Speaker 1>our people supporting you. Our people are your people. Your

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, I'm gonna hit go Live and I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to order people to turn on, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Skin YouTube dot com slash Ben and Skin. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but the whole, the whole witting thing. I've missed on

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<v Speaker 1>so many things. I really thought Belichick was going to

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<v Speaker 1>They told me where it was and everything, and I

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<v Speaker 1>of went all in on that. So I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>claim the witting thing, but I will. I'll stand there

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<v Speaker 1>and wait, even if it's five years from now, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>boomerang it. I'll be standing there waiting to get some

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<v Speaker 1>love on that. Maybe it is Ben Rogers vindicated, simply

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<v Speaker 1>because I've gotten so much hate every time I've posted

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<v Speaker 1>that are very hateful, going why would they ever let

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<v Speaker 1>witt and coach? What has he ever done? He only

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<v Speaker 1>played quit trying to get former players to be hired.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's going to happen. He's personally told me

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to be the coach of the Cowboys. Someday

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<v Speaker 1>that's his life dream. It's going to happen at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>and they love him to your point, so it's inevitable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's very thanos. It's gonna happen, and I

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<v Speaker 4>hope he does a great job. Hell, he might be

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<v Speaker 4>able to do it today. It's one of those weird

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<v Speaker 4>things like are you gonna predict failure on if Jason

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<v Speaker 4>Witten were the head coach based on what like he

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<v Speaker 4>has now officially coached football. I know it's not NFL football,

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<v Speaker 4>but he was in NFL locker rooms forever. You don't

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<v Speaker 4>think that he could lead men or or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>control a room or what do we think he couldn't do?

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously you would rather have a guy like work his

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<v Speaker 4>way up to something. But yeah, you're gonna be right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna be right. You've been on it. You've been

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<v Speaker 4>on it, Ben Rogers been Don't you try to backpedal

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<v Speaker 4>from your vindication. Your vindication is here, all right, it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Your vindication is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go, it's the eve of vindication. That sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>a Steven Sagal movie. Does Steven Sagaal is eve of vindication?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? Before we let you go, Jeffrey, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know this because I'm trying to pieces together in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know, off the top of your head, from

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<v Speaker 1>how long was that? Like? Did he do any assistant

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<v Speaker 3>Sure? I'm sure, Okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>He was because Dan Campbell is like ten years of

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<v Speaker 4>Vrabel immediately after playing became the Ohio State linebacker coach,

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<v Speaker 2>So he took.

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<v Speaker 1>About seven years to get to NFL head coach, which

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<v Speaker 2>Campbell's was longer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, what are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if it's gonna be d On, that would

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<v Speaker 4>be fun too because he would have went from a

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<v Speaker 4>don't remember right, and then some quick coaching and then

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<v Speaker 4>he's ready to rock. So I think we could make

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think Witten would love that. It'd be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun, though I like it. You're just cheering for

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<v Speaker 1>chaos and just uh more madness.

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<v Speaker 3>I quit.

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<v Speaker 4>I quit like I reached the point of recognition, enlightenment,

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<v Speaker 4>something like everybody's always known Jerry Jones love's attention and

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<v Speaker 4>that you know. When he had his old Netflix trailer

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<v Speaker 4>come out, he has three lines in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Every single one.

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<v Speaker 4>Of them is about promoting the brand, and none of

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<v Speaker 4>them is about winning at football, like Jerry Jones is

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<v Speaker 4>here to run a business, make money for him and

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<v Speaker 4>his family and his friends, do it comfortably, all while

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<v Speaker 4>on him that he still can't fill because, in theory,

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<v Speaker 4>should have already been filled because he won a Super

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<v Speaker 4>Bowl with Barry Switzer. He should just claim ultimate victory.

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<v Speaker 4>But he can't because other people don't give him credit

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<v Speaker 4>for that. And Jerry has problems. He has unhealed trauma.

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<v Speaker 4>He needs to be in therapy and then he could

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<v Speaker 4>try his best, but he can't. Instead, he's trying to

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<v Speaker 4>even though he has three super Bowl championships. He's a psycho.

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<v Speaker 4>His ego is the size of Mount Vesuvius. I just

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<v Speaker 4>picked a random, big thing. Don't know if it's a

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<v Speaker 4>real place like there. This team does things in a

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<v Speaker 4>very inefficient way, in so many ways that the best

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<v Speaker 4>teams do not.

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<v Speaker 3>You will never win a Super Bowl. Never. You won't.

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<v Speaker 4>It would require so much luck because the good teams

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<v Speaker 4>that hire the best people, not the people that they're best.

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<v Speaker 3>He's with like the people who hire the best.

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<v Speaker 4>People and look for every little edge and how you

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<v Speaker 4>build a team, and how you do the salary cap

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<v Speaker 4>and what makes sense when drafting, and who are the

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<v Speaker 4>coaches that were interested in all of these little things

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<v Speaker 4>that the Cowboys let slip. They add up, and they

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<v Speaker 4>add up to. You will never be better than the best.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll be better than a bunch of teams because most

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<v Speaker 4>teams are either going for it or tanking it so

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<v Speaker 4>that they can go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys refuse to live there.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to be relevant at all times, but we

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<v Speaker 4>also don't want to really go for it because that

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<v Speaker 4>involves risk.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I'm tired. I'm tired.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic Hey, we love you. Thanks for taking time to

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<v Speaker 1>join us. Tell everybody where to find you again.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I'm sure you're trying it. Any minutes to covidos ranting.

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<v Speaker 4>The LLS sports on YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 4>I do The Cowboys Show and also on my own YouTube,

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<v Speaker 4>bitch Jeff Kavanaugh, thanks, love you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let you more there it goes. Let me great,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Kavanaugh. Wow, absolute beast, Absolute beast,