Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Joining us now is someone who is no stranger to
Speaker 2: the show. We've had Scott on many times, Scott Sarah,
Speaker 2: and he's written a book, however now about the ordeal
Speaker 2: that he's gone through with his family and what happened
Speaker 2: to his daughter Grace. We've had him on many times.
Speaker 2: Our Amazinggrace dot net is his website and you can
Speaker 2: go there and pre order the book. It releases on Monday,
Speaker 2: and so we're excited to see that. We've got a
Speaker 2: little bit of a preview of the book and we're
Speaker 2: going to tell you a little bit about what's in
Speaker 2: it and why he wrote it. And if you haven't
Speaker 2: seen Scott before, you really need to hear about his experiences,
Speaker 2: his heartbreaking and it is something that every American needs
Speaker 2: to know because we need to understand what this system
Speaker 2: they've created is capable of doing and actually incentivized to do.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: Joining us now is Scott s here. I thank you
Speaker 2: for joining us.
Speaker 3: Scott Well, it is really a pleasure to be here
Speaker 3: and I am so thankful to see you.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you. Scott was a really big
Speaker 2: help in terms of when I had the stroke. He
Speaker 2: was very helpful in terms of advice and things and
Speaker 2: warnings and other things like that. One of the things
Speaker 2: that we never talked about before, and we can touch
Speaker 2: on that today. I don't know if you want to
Speaker 2: do it later, but we can talk about adult protective services.
Speaker 2: So many times we've talked about child protective services and
Speaker 2: how families can get caught up in something like that,
Speaker 2: but they have the equivalent for reaching every one of us.
Speaker 2: They can grab us at the end of life as well.
Speaker 2: And so the book is government legally killing you? And
Speaker 2: that rhetorical question, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Scott, Yeah, you could the way I understood it from
Speaker 3: the people that helped me put the book together. They said,
Speaker 3: I think you'll sell more copies if you put it
Speaker 3: as a question.
Speaker 2: It's no longer an open question for any of us.
Speaker 2: Have been paying attention since twenty twenty and things that
Speaker 2: have happened.
Speaker 1: At that point in time.
Speaker 2: You now have a podcast, of course as well, and
Speaker 2: the podcast is is Deprogramming with Grace's Dad, and you
Speaker 2: can find that on Rumble and all the regular podcast platforms.
Speaker 2: What did you do before this happened to your family?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nobody ever asked me that question. That's a
Speaker 3: great question. I have been a business owner for most
Speaker 3: of my life. I own a business right now that's
Speaker 3: just a small business. I have for men who work
Speaker 3: for me, and praise God, I've been able to turn
Speaker 3: the business part of it.
Speaker 1: Over to them.
Speaker 3: So I only spend about three hours a week in
Speaker 3: the business and I do this full time.
Speaker 1: My background though.
Speaker 3: Before the current business, which is a pond management company,
Speaker 3: I had a CPA firm and then I did strategic planning.
Speaker 3: And you know, when you think about the Book of
Speaker 3: Esther and the line everybody quotes when Mordecai said to Esther,
Speaker 3: how do you know God has it made you for
Speaker 3: a time such as this? All that background has really
Speaker 3: helped me to be able to do this. So you know,
Speaker 3: as a CPA you're used to audit trails and I'm
Speaker 3: proving things out and you know, the book when you
Speaker 3: write a book, I had never thought i'd write a book,
Speaker 3: But when you choose to write a book, you can't
Speaker 3: just start blabbering. You've got to have the facts and
Speaker 3: you've got to find the source documents, and so I
Speaker 3: did all of that for the book. We have seventy
Speaker 3: end notes in the book and that background helped tremendously.
Speaker 3: The strategic planning background also helped, because you know, this
Speaker 3: is a long term project. You know, Grace died. Grace
Speaker 3: is a murtyr and she died so that otheroples lives
Speaker 3: can be saved. And so this is our long term plan.
Speaker 3: This is the rest of our life plan.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2: So tell us a little bit about Grace's story, give
Speaker 2: us a brief overview, because we know we've had you
Speaker 2: on several times on the show, but there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people that are always coming on board the show,
Speaker 2: and so they may not be familiar with what happened.
Speaker 2: If you could tell us briefly what happened with her,
Speaker 2: just to give us an overview.
Speaker 3: Well, so, first, Grace was only nineteen when she died
Speaker 3: on October thirteenth of twenty one. Grace said down syndrome,
Speaker 3: and she was, you know, to be blunt, she was
Speaker 3: the best thing God ever gave us, second to salvation.
Speaker 3: And it was on an earlier interview today and I
Speaker 3: told the host that if God chooses to do an
Speaker 3: Abraham Sarah situation with my wife and I would want
Speaker 3: another down syndrome baby because down center is an absolute gift.
Speaker 3: Percent of Down syndrome babies are murdered in the womb
Speaker 3: in America today. So yeah, that's my plug for Down syndrome.
Speaker 2: And when I've had you on in the past, we've
Speaker 2: talked about a very very close friend of ours who
Speaker 2: had a daughter with Down syndrome. And fortunately our friend
Speaker 2: died of breast cancer not too long ago, but that
Speaker 2: was their experience as well. You know, it's a challenging thing,
Speaker 2: but they really it's such a wonderful thing the Downs
Speaker 2: kids have. There's just something about them, the innocence that's there,
Speaker 2: that's in a child, you know.
Speaker 3: Well, it's what God calls us to be. I mean,
Speaker 3: he says to come to him.
Speaker 1: Like a child.
Speaker 3: And Grace, I just I can't say enough about her.
Speaker 3: She just had a way about her that was always encouraging,
Speaker 3: always loving. She always found the good in people. She
Speaker 3: was she was special, you know. So she makes it easy,
Speaker 3: you know, the work that I'm doing now, it makes
Speaker 3: it easy because you know, I think about Grace every
Speaker 3: single day obviously, and I miss her tremendously, but she
Speaker 3: becomes quite a motivation to make sure that nobody else
Speaker 3: loses their best buddy, you know, so you asked what
Speaker 3: happened to Grace? So this was during the COVID scam.
Speaker 3: I had no idea at that time. I was just
Speaker 3: the typical person, you know. I'm just an obedient slave
Speaker 3: to the to the system, trusted the medical system. I
Speaker 3: didn't know anything. And so we had been following the
Speaker 3: frontline COVID critical care doctor's protocol, and that protocol said,
Speaker 3: if your oxygen saturation drops below ninety four percent, admits
Speaker 3: yourself to the hospital because it's an emergency. So we
Speaker 3: dutifully did that and Grace went in with eighty eight
Speaker 3: percent oxygen. She just had a cold to her and
Speaker 3: I were goofing around and seven days later she was dead.
Speaker 3: And so how did she die? They gave her a
Speaker 3: drug combination that should not be given. It's given to
Speaker 3: people at end of life in hospice care, pressed ex
Speaker 3: lorazepam and morphine. And you know, in the jury trial,
Speaker 3: our expert doctor Gilbert Berdine, he said when they gave
Speaker 3: Grace morphine, she didn't even have a blood pressure. He
Speaker 3: called that the worst clinical decision he's ever seen in
Speaker 3: forty six, forty six years of medical practice. And they
Speaker 3: could have still revived Grace after given her the morphine,
Speaker 3: but they refused because the doctor had put an illegal
Speaker 3: do not resuscitate order on Grace's chart. And praise God,
Speaker 3: we had the first and probably the only wrongful death
Speaker 3: jury trial with COVID as the cause of death on
Speaker 3: the death certificate, and of course we lost. That loss
Speaker 3: came down via the verdict on June nineteenth of twenty
Speaker 3: five and we lost eleven to one, you know, so
Speaker 3: it was a significant loss.
Speaker 1: And you know, at the time, of.
Speaker 3: Course, I was shocked because we had a better, better team,
Speaker 3: we had the truth on our side, we were extremely
Speaker 3: well prepared, but we were all shocked with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not surprised. Yeah, go ahead, David Well.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, there was such high
Speaker 2: expectations because you were right, and it was the first time,
Speaker 2: as you said, that anybody had been able to come
Speaker 2: after with a wrongful death rather than just malpractice or
Speaker 2: something like that, and all the facts were on your side,
Speaker 2: and it was so important to establish that precedent as well.
Speaker 2: And I imagine that that had a lot to do
Speaker 2: with the reason that they went the other right way,
Speaker 2: because it would have been a very very important precedent,
Speaker 2: very damaging for the system.
Speaker 3: So it would have been right. And that's uh. They
Speaker 3: brought in the big guns. They brought in five experts
Speaker 3: to or from Johns Hopkins. They spent hundreds of thousands
Speaker 3: of dollars on their experts. Our expert was so gracious.
Speaker 3: He had never worked for a plaintiff before. He only
Speaker 3: had worked for the defense representing doctors, and he thought
Speaker 3: Grace's case was so egregious he didn't take a penny. Wow,
Speaker 3: it's hard to given grasp, but that's it's it's part
Speaker 3: of the it's part of the beast system. The Antichrist
Speaker 3: system has a lot of tentacles. And in the book,
Speaker 3: of course, I'm exposing the medical industrial complex and the
Speaker 3: legal industrial complex. But there's there's a lot. The world
Speaker 3: is full of these deceptions that we've brought into.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, you know, it's just like we're looking into
Speaker 2: the vaccine thing, or they did they put her on
Speaker 2: a ventilator?
Speaker 1: Was that part of it as well?
Speaker 2: Because they had a very high rate that they killed
Speaker 2: with that right, it was ninety percent?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and you know, praise God, Grace was
Speaker 3: never on a ventilator. And the reason I say that
Speaker 3: relative to the story isn't because of whether Grace needed
Speaker 3: or didn't need a ventilator. But the fact is is
Speaker 3: a ventilator was a covered countermeasure under the Public Health emergency.
Speaker 3: So consequently, the prep Act immunity takes over if Grace
Speaker 3: would have died on a ventilator. And so the reason
Speaker 3: we had a lawsuit is because Grace wasn't on a ventilator.
Speaker 3: So if she would have been on one, of course
Speaker 3: she would have died on it, and then we would
Speaker 3: have not had a lawsuit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what we're seeing right now. Trump has
Speaker 2: used exactly the same legal prevarication, this Defense Act thing
Speaker 2: that he's got that he used to push the production
Speaker 2: of these ventilators that one pull moonologist said, we've never
Speaker 2: done that before. Why would you do that? Didn't make
Speaker 2: any sense at all, But they pushed that, And as
Speaker 2: you point out, since they pushed it and demanded that
Speaker 2: it be made then and they could not be held
Speaker 2: aliable for that. He's doing the same thing now with glyphysset.
Speaker 2: He's compelling the production glyphysset under that same Act. And
Speaker 2: under that Act they also get immunity. It just makes
Speaker 2: your head spin that people don't wake up to this.
Speaker 2: It's insane.
Speaker 3: I am blown away by it myself. But you know,
Speaker 3: I'm reminded of First Samuel chapter eight, when you know,
Speaker 3: I don't want to throw other people under the bus
Speaker 3: that don't get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, although it's hard to not.
Speaker 3: But you know two hundred and fifty years after God
Speaker 3: part of the Red Sea that Israel's didn't want the king.
Speaker 3: They wanted a king instead of the king. And you know,
Speaker 3: we're suckers for man's way and politics is not the
Speaker 3: way out of this, folks. You can't legislate morality, We
Speaker 3: can't vote our way out of this. You have to
Speaker 3: come to our senses.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: So you know it's a trap, and you talk about
Speaker 2: the trap and how it's a very long process that
Speaker 2: they get us all into. It's like, you know, grooming
Speaker 2: process for everybody. Really talk a little bit about that
Speaker 2: process that gets so dependent and reliant on conventional medicine,
Speaker 2: and what do we need to do to inoculate ourselves
Speaker 2: against that?
Speaker 3: Well, you had you have such a weight of asking questions.
Speaker 1: I enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I forgot how much I enjoy you as a host. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so they do this through a So that's why my
Speaker 3: podcast was called deprogramming. They program us and we don't
Speaker 3: realize it because it's so subtle, and you know, we
Speaker 3: end up becoming the boiling frogs in the end because
Speaker 3: we can't recognize this happening over time. And in the book,
Speaker 3: I lay this out and I start with nineteen oh five,
Speaker 3: even though the eugenics model was already in place in
Speaker 3: Plato wrote about it in three hundred and seventy five BC.
Speaker 3: And so the idea of eugenics is nothing new, but
Speaker 3: modern eugenics started in nineteen oh five with Jacobson versus Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: And in that Supreme Court case, the Supreme Court said, quote,
Speaker 3: the rights of the individual, in respect to his liberty, may,
Speaker 3: at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected
Speaker 3: to such restraint to be enforced by reasonable regulations as
Speaker 3: the safety of the general public may demand. So when
Speaker 3: you hear that for the first time, you think, well,
Speaker 3: that's reasonable, it's pragmatic, but it's not right. What that
Speaker 3: is is collectivism, and collectivism has become the quote law
Speaker 3: end quote of the land. This is the legal standard.
Speaker 3: It's not lawful because God is an individualist, not a collectivist.
Speaker 3: But then, okay, so now how does that doctrine? How
Speaker 3: does that get integrated into our society? And I mentioned
Speaker 3: earlier that downsentdrome babies are murdered at the rate of
Speaker 3: ninety percent, so collectivism relative to down centerme. I'll just
Speaker 3: give you the four to one one. You know, the
Speaker 3: young couple gets pregnant, they have not established any biblical roots.
Speaker 3: So what happens is the to the doctor. The doctor
Speaker 3: congratulates them on the pregnancy and says, let's do an amniocentesis.
Speaker 3: And the young couple without roots, the only question they
Speaker 3: really ask is does my insurance cover it? And the
Speaker 3: answer is yeah, your insurance does cover it. I'm just
Speaker 3: going to add my two cents your insurance covers it
Speaker 3: because they're in on it. That's part of the scam.
Speaker 3: So now the amniocentisis comes back positive for Down syndrome.
Speaker 3: The doctor has a meeting with the couple and says,
Speaker 3: your son, we expect him to have down syndrome based
Speaker 3: on these test results. And they have a training document
Speaker 3: that I don't have at my fingertips right now, but
Speaker 3: there's a training document that doctors wrote for other doctors
Speaker 3: as to how to view down syndrome, and so down
Speaker 3: syndrome is looked at as this negative thing, this burden
Speaker 3: on society, a burden on the family, all of that.
Speaker 3: So he sells that lie to the young couple and
Speaker 3: suggests they have an abortion. So that's what collectivism looks
Speaker 3: like in real time. All of us have bought into it,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to we'll go right to the endgame.
Speaker 3: So just process this as a So first, maybe I'll
Speaker 3: just ask you the question, David. You know, if you
Speaker 3: were going to have your windows cleaned at your home,
Speaker 3: you know you would expect I presume that, you know,
Speaker 3: if you don't have a referral, you'd look up the
Speaker 3: company and you would expect them to give you a quote.
Speaker 3: And assuming you hire them, you would expect them that
Speaker 3: if the team that came out to clean your windows,
Speaker 3: if they broke one of them, you would expect them
Speaker 3: to fix it. That's reasonable, right, We'll think about in
Speaker 3: the medical system. Can you think of an any other industry.
Speaker 3: So this is the norm. The window cleaning situation is
Speaker 3: the norm. But in the medical industry they don't disclose
Speaker 3: any pricing. They don't give you any quotes, and they
Speaker 3: if they screw up, they have immunity from liability.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: If you had in your analogy, if they had a
Speaker 2: history of breaking out half the windows that they cleaned
Speaker 2: with their ladder, you would never be able to know
Speaker 2: that if it was a medical situation, because it's all
Speaker 2: hidden exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, truly is amazing.
Speaker 3: So that's how you know we've all tacitly approved all
Speaker 3: of that, and so consequently, on a macro level, I
Speaker 3: believe the only way out of this nightmare is repentance
Speaker 3: for our participation in that system. From a micro level,
Speaker 3: you know, what can people do? I mean, I obviously
Speaker 3: I encourage people to not participate. So what does that
Speaker 3: look like. We don't have medical insurance anymore.
Speaker 1: We chose to.
Speaker 3: Go with a cash pay provider, somebody that's not they
Speaker 3: do not accept Medicare and Medicaid. That's critical because if
Speaker 3: a provider accepts Medicare and Medicaid, they have to toe
Speaker 3: the line or they lose their license. They don't get
Speaker 3: paid for any recommendations outside of that standard of care model.
Speaker 3: And that's for the whole country. That isn't just if
Speaker 3: you're on Medicare and Medicaid, and I'll share a story
Speaker 3: with you that I share in the book that will
Speaker 3: really get your your listeners in the mindset that, okay
Speaker 3: is what this guy's saying. True. Yeah, it's true. And
Speaker 3: I interviewed a doctor for my book just to make
Speaker 3: sure that my anecdotal story is in fact the case today,
Speaker 3: and he said yes, and you'll hear about the statin
Speaker 3: in my story. And he said, I refuse to prescribe
Speaker 3: the statin and I get financially punished for not prescribing
Speaker 3: it because the statin is, as you're going to learn
Speaker 3: here shortly, is the standard of care for heart disease.
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you.
Speaker 1: I know that they tried to push that on me
Speaker 1: real hard. Oh well, I've been too.
Speaker 2: Every time I go, she gives me this whole whole
Speaker 2: spiel about the Framingham study. And I politely sat there
Speaker 2: nod my head. And after this happened two or three times,
Speaker 2: I told Ken, I said, we're not ever going back
Speaker 2: to that time. I've had enough lectures about the Framingham
Speaker 2: study and uh, I know about statins. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to uh not going to take these things ever. So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, it's it's absolutely critical that you know.
Speaker 3: So you asked, how do what do we do? I mean,
Speaker 3: we've got to do our We got to take the
Speaker 3: freedom that we gave away to the government. We turned
Speaker 3: over our birthright. We got to take it back. We
Speaker 3: got to reclaim the ground that we lost. And you
Speaker 3: know you do that by asking questions. You stand firm
Speaker 3: on your beliefs and you know the story. I'll just
Speaker 3: share this quick story so you understand where I'm coming from.
Speaker 3: So this is back. I'm still programmed in the medical system.
Speaker 3: May of twenty eighteen, we still had conventional medical insurance.
Speaker 3: I went in for the recommended physical at fifty five
Speaker 3: three hundred dollars for your physical and so, okay, I
Speaker 3: do that. The doctor said to me, Scott, do you
Speaker 3: want to do a CT scan of your heart? I said, well,
Speaker 3: I don't, Why would I I feel fine? He said, well,
Speaker 3: we got a deal. It's normally two thousand dollars. It's
Speaker 3: only eighty dollars. I said, sure, I'll do it. And
Speaker 3: the day after I did the CT scan, they called
Speaker 3: and said you need to come in immediately.
Speaker 1: They go oh boy.
Speaker 3: So I went into the doctor's office and they said,
Speaker 3: you have a twelve hundred calcium score, which is the
Speaker 3: OMG level for heart disease. So I said, what's the cause,
Speaker 3: and they said, we have high cholesterol. So what's the solution?
Speaker 3: The statin? So, you know, praise God, I didn't roll
Speaker 3: over then. And Sindy, my wife, and I graduated from
Speaker 3: high school with a lady who's a doctor. I called
Speaker 3: her and she explained what I just said to you,
Speaker 3: and she said, my husband just had a heart attack
Speaker 3: two months ago. I'm researching this myself. Let me send
Speaker 3: you some things. And I looked at what she sent
Speaker 3: I started researching at a couple hundred hours in and
Speaker 3: realized high cholesterol is necessary. It's not even in the
Speaker 3: top ten of the causes of art disease. And of course,
Speaker 3: the statin causes dementia. And interestingly, if we tied dementia
Speaker 3: back to Obamacare, which was passed on March twenty thirty,
Speaker 3: twenty ten, Ezekie Lemanuel is the chief architect of Obamacare,
Speaker 3: and he said that if you have dementia, you're a
Speaker 3: non contributing member of society and don't deserve medical care,
Speaker 3: you know, So it's not a joke when I say
Speaker 3: the government is legally killing us. That's an example. So anyway, here,
Speaker 3: just to finish the story, I went into the doctor
Speaker 3: then after doing the research and said I'm not going to.
Speaker 1: Do the statin.
Speaker 3: And the nurse his nurse, and I thank her for this.
Speaker 3: This is so good because she walked me out and said, Scott,
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you something I'm not going to
Speaker 3: want to hear. I said, what is it. She said,
Speaker 3: you have to take the statin and I said what,
Speaker 3: I don't have to do anything. And she said, our
Speaker 3: Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement rates are based on what the
Speaker 3: percentage of our patient population that follows the standard of care,
Speaker 3: and the standard of care for your level of heart
Speaker 3: disease is the statin. And I said, I'm not on
Speaker 3: Medicare Medicaid. She said, you didn't hear me. It's based
Speaker 3: on our entire patient population, and if there's enough people
Speaker 3: like you who won't follow the standard of care, we
Speaker 3: have to fire you as a patient to keep our
Speaker 3: reimbursement rates up. And that's the secret I reveal in
Speaker 3: the book. That is how the federal government, through the
Speaker 3: Center for Medicare and Medicaid services controls the entire healthcare
Speaker 3: system in America.
Speaker 2: Well, we see the same things over and over again.
Speaker 2: You know, when you look at childhood vaccines, for example,
Speaker 2: they've all practiced their speech about they've got a little
Speaker 2: speech to convince you, right and again. You know, when
Speaker 2: we go back to I remember in the summer of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty with the COVID stuff, there was a Yale
Speaker 2: study and it was a psychological study.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a study of COVID.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a study of masks or ventilators or the
Speaker 2: vaccine or anything. It was a psychological study. How do
Speaker 2: we convince people to get this vaccine that we haven't
Speaker 2: finished yet, that we haven't tested yet, that we haven't
Speaker 2: found out it's safe or effective. And they went through
Speaker 2: and they tried different statements on people, and they broke
Speaker 2: them into two different groups, you know, just like you
Speaker 2: were testing a drug or something. We have a control
Speaker 2: group over here that doesn't hear the argument, and they've
Speaker 2: got enough one over here that does hear the argument.
Speaker 2: How effective was that argument? And I was just absolutely stunned.
Speaker 2: It's like, here, we are going to rush through this stuff.
Speaker 2: And do no tests of anything except how we can
Speaker 2: manipulate people to take this. And then I saw very
Speaker 2: well known Christian leaders who used these things verbatim after
Speaker 2: the vaccine rolled out after about sevenor eight months. After that,
Speaker 2: I was just appalled at all of that. But the
Speaker 2: same thing. We go back to the vaccines, the same thing.
Speaker 2: They got little speeches to tell people if they are
Speaker 2: reluctant to get the vaccines for their kids, and then
Speaker 2: they will fire you as a patient because they will
Speaker 2: literally put these pediatricians out of business if they don't
Speaker 2: get a certain percentage of the kids who take the
Speaker 2: prescribed number of vaccines on schedule, which is the standard
Speaker 2: of care that they have demanded. Truly is amazing to
Speaker 2: see how that works. And it's all about money, you know,
Speaker 2: they use, they weaponize money. And that's what I was
Speaker 2: telling everybody about the way the whole COVID thing, I said,
Speaker 2: you know, they said, well, it wasn't Trumpet, was the
Speaker 2: bad Democrat governors. I said, well, the Republican governors are
Speaker 2: doing the same thing, and it was the money. It
Speaker 2: was incentivizing it. And I said, that's how the government
Speaker 2: always gets around the Tenth Amendment restrictions, they bribe people
Speaker 2: and they blackmail people with money, and yeah, they always
Speaker 2: roll it that out that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's right on, David.
Speaker 3: I mean, you hit the nail on the head with
Speaker 3: the vaccine agenda. But it's so that's the from the
Speaker 3: government's perspective, incentivizing the medical Well what do they do
Speaker 3: from how do we participate? So I like to cover
Speaker 3: both sides because they have to get us to participate.
Speaker 3: So how did they do that? So go all the
Speaker 3: way back to World War Two. One of the goals
Speaker 3: of World War two was to get women in the workplace.
Speaker 3: So why did they want to get women in the workplace? Well,
Speaker 3: because now we can have a tool earner couple. So
Speaker 3: then why do we want a to earn a couple.
Speaker 3: Well because now they're going to need to send their
Speaker 3: kids to the public fool system for free babysitting. And
Speaker 3: as part of the free babysitting service, the indoctrination service,
Speaker 3: you have to have eighty jabs. I mean, it's a
Speaker 3: massive population reduction agenda. And once your eyes are open
Speaker 3: to that, all the puzzle pieces fit.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, absolutely, I love what you call it, the
Speaker 2: public fool system. I saw that, and I told you
Speaker 2: I start calling it that way. That's the best description
Speaker 2: of it I've heard yet. That's better than government school.
Speaker 2: I like public fool system. You know it is. And
Speaker 2: this has been one of my pet peeves all along,
Speaker 2: which you touched on the public health issue, the difference
Speaker 2: between this idea of collective health and individual health.
Speaker 1: And I've said for the longest time, if you.
Speaker 2: Don't have individual health, how do you have collective health?
Speaker 2: Because the collective is all a bunch of individuals and
Speaker 2: you're going to run rough shot over people and poison
Speaker 2: them and all the rest of the stuff them are
Speaker 2: not healthy, how does the herd get healthy? It doesn't
Speaker 2: make any sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the blinding flash of the obviously exactly right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a crazy system, and it's an evil system,
Speaker 2: and it's very calculated, and we can see it happening
Speaker 2: in so many different ways. Like I said, the grooming
Speaker 2: that they do to us as adults and as children,
Speaker 2: and how the profit motive is woven into all of
Speaker 2: this stuff. Let me ask you, because I know that
Speaker 2: we got pressured when we were having our child Lances
Speaker 2: running the board right now, and they wanted us to
Speaker 2: do an amniocentesis because we were older, and we said, no,
Speaker 2: we're not going to do that because it we're not
Speaker 2: going to abort the baby, so that there's no point
Speaker 2: in doing it, and any procedure is going to have
Speaker 2: certain risks, so I'm not going to do that. What
Speaker 2: was the situation when you guys had Grace? Did you
Speaker 2: know that she had Down syndrome?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Boy, am I glad you asked me that question, because
Speaker 3: so we had been chasing the American dream. So what
Speaker 3: did that look like? We had two point one kids,
Speaker 3: one point seven dogs, no cats, of course, and you know,
Speaker 3: projecting out our retirement in the early fifties and blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. Well, God got a hold of us and
Speaker 3: when we were thirty nine, we turned the baby department
Speaker 3: over to him, and five minutes later, fertile Myrtle got pregnant.
Speaker 3: And then we didn't do any of the testing because
Speaker 3: we knew we were going to give We're going to
Speaker 3: take whatever God gave us. And so I was in
Speaker 3: the delivery room with Cindy, and when Grace came out,
Speaker 3: I just said to her, I said, I think she
Speaker 3: has Down syndrome because she had the features and the
Speaker 3: doctors had a huddle, and it was my first experience
Speaker 3: negative with the medical system because one of the doctors
Speaker 3: came in and said, we suspect your daughter has down syndrome.
Speaker 3: Do you want to keep her? And I said to him,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Was he talking about adoption or youth and age youth?
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I didn't because I wasn't
Speaker 3: a wake to anything. Then he just said, you know,
Speaker 3: I said, what are you talking about? He said, well,
Speaker 3: we have people waiting in the wings for children such
Speaker 3: as these. So we just left said, you know, we
Speaker 3: have no interest in anything that you're talking about. And
Speaker 3: you know, so was the end of the story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Yeah, that's amazing. You were about the same
Speaker 2: age we were when we had had Lance as well,
Speaker 2: and that was the way we felt about it as well.
Speaker 2: You just have to certain things like that. You just
Speaker 2: have to trust God in it. And and I think
Speaker 2: you had a wonderful experience with Grace for nineteen years.
Speaker 2: I've seen your website all the wonderful things that you
Speaker 2: all did with her, and how she had a wonderful
Speaker 2: life that you gave her.
Speaker 3: Well, she was she was a blast. I just I
Speaker 3: enjoy just processing all the I mean, we had so
Speaker 3: many cool experiences with her, and she was she was
Speaker 3: a natural comic to boot, and that's of course what
Speaker 3: I missed the most. I taught her literal humor and
Speaker 3: she got it. You know, it was really fun. I
Speaker 3: mean just a simple example. I mean, we're it'll be
Speaker 3: our fortieth wedding anniversary coming up here in November, and
Speaker 3: I remember this so vividly because Grace was so sharp.
Speaker 3: It was our twenty ninth anniversary. We have an apple
Speaker 3: orchard and we were pressing apples, which is a manual process,
Speaker 3: and so Grace and I are on the apple press
Speaker 3: and I said, hey, Grace, did you know that it's
Speaker 3: mom and Dad's anniversary today? And she quips back, happy misery.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just was so funny.
Speaker 3: I just love that kind of humor. And you know,
Speaker 3: just I really thought that someday she would be a
Speaker 3: stand up comic because she was.
Speaker 1: She was so funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably a lot funnier than the stand up comings.
Speaker 1: I typically say. They were not funny.
Speaker 2: They're just shock jocks, you know, trying to shock you
Speaker 2: with their language or whatever they're doing.
Speaker 1: So I want to welcome change. I think I want.
Speaker 3: To share something that I expose in the book, and
Speaker 3: it's it's a little bit deep, but it's important. So
Speaker 3: we talked about the idea of standards of care, and
Speaker 3: that's how the government controls us. That's how they control
Speaker 3: medical care. So standards of care. You know, there can
Speaker 3: be some good standards of care, but for the most part,
Speaker 3: standards of care designed to kill us. So the standard
Speaker 3: of care for heart disease, the stanton seven hundred thousand
Speaker 3: deaths a year attributable to the government killing us with
Speaker 3: the standard of care for heart disease six hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: With cancer, the standard of care for cancer is chemo.
Speaker 3: If you survive five years in one day, that is,
Speaker 3: you are an anomaly. You're one of two point one
Speaker 3: percent that survives that long after chemo. So that's what
Speaker 3: we're programmed to believe. Okay, So then you've got people
Speaker 3: arguing for they're in the trap, and they're arguing for
Speaker 3: informed consent. And so let me set this up just
Speaker 3: a little bit. If you have as you well know,
Speaker 3: I mean, you experience good doctors and bad doctors, and
Speaker 3: you know there are good doctors, but for the most part.
Speaker 3: The doctors believe that their job is to tell you
Speaker 3: what to do, so that is not informed consent, right,
Speaker 3: That is telling you what to do and expecting you
Speaker 3: to do what they say because they've got all the
Speaker 3: schooling and you're just a dummy, all right, So that's
Speaker 3: not informed consent. Informed consent means that they explain the
Speaker 3: options to you thoroughly, You ask questions, and then you
Speaker 3: process those options and make a decision. Separate from being informed,
Speaker 3: that's informed consent. So people are arguing. So, for example,
Speaker 3: in Grace's case, not only didn't we get informed consent,
Speaker 3: you have knowledge of these meds being used on Grace.
Speaker 3: We have no knowledge of the dn R order, you know.
Speaker 3: So that's lack of informed consent on steroids. But here's
Speaker 3: the trap. If people are really pushing for informed consent,
Speaker 3: the problem is they're in the system. So the doctor
Speaker 3: can only give you options that are within the boundaries
Speaker 3: of the standards of care. Okay, they can't give you
Speaker 3: real options outside so cancer for example, if a doctor
Speaker 3: gives you a recommendation to take ivermectin for your cancer,
Speaker 3: he'll lose his license, so they can't give you real
Speaker 3: informed consent. So that's the scary part about these arguments.
Speaker 3: I see a lot of medical freedom people making these arguments,
Speaker 3: but they're inside the trap that they've created, the informed
Speaker 3: consent trap. Of course, I want informed consent, but I
Speaker 3: want informed consent outside of I want to go outside
Speaker 3: the lines. I was thinking about how Grace would color.
Speaker 3: So you know, you color a picture, and you're taught
Speaker 3: to color inside the lions, right, Well, Grease would always
Speaker 3: draw clouds and little hearts and things.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That's what I want. I want a doctor that's willing
Speaker 3: to go outside the lions.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And just to give you an example, you know, when
Speaker 2: I'm in the hospital, they're giving me a lot of
Speaker 2: different things. I said, you know, I didn't bring my
Speaker 2: vitamin C with me. I said, can I get vitamins?
Speaker 2: Oh no, we don't give you vitamin C.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't get vitamin C in the hospital.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: It's even worse than that. You can't get any sleep either.
Speaker 2: That's the with the bed and all the rest of
Speaker 2: the stuff that's there. But no, I'm not gonna go
Speaker 2: outside that narrow box of standard of care. That's exactly right. Well,
Speaker 2: I said at the beginning, let's talk about this situation
Speaker 2: with Adult Protective Services. We're all aware of the damage
Speaker 2: that's done with child protective Services. I hope at least
Speaker 2: the people who follow the show are, because I've talked
Speaker 2: about that many times. But adult care where they insinuate
Speaker 2: with so worker and come into a situation where somebody
Speaker 2: is at the end of life or incapacity to talk
Speaker 2: a little bit about that, because that played into Grace's
Speaker 2: story as well.
Speaker 3: Right well, it technically didn't because we had our paperwork
Speaker 3: in order. Grace was an adult, she was nineteen, but
Speaker 3: we did have a durable medical power of attorney in place,
Speaker 3: and they ignored it. But we had the documents in
Speaker 3: place so that Grace would never become a ward of
Speaker 3: the state. But we have firsthand experience now. In fact,
Speaker 3: my wife is not in the area right now, she's
Speaker 3: three hours away. She has become a co guardian for
Speaker 3: a lady that ended up being captured by Adult Protective Services,
Speaker 3: and the family were familiar with our story. They had
Speaker 3: seen our local billboards and asked us to get involved,
Speaker 3: and we started to get involved and realized Adult Protective
Speaker 3: Services captured this lady. They sent her to a hospital.
Speaker 3: They ended up putting her on a ventilator. She now
Speaker 3: permanently has a trake and will never speak again because
Speaker 3: of the medical abuse. And when you become a under
Speaker 3: adult Protective Services, the court takes over and they appointed
Speaker 3: a state guardian. And that's so now my wife started
Speaker 3: advocating for this lady. The state guardian. You would expect
Speaker 3: if that if you were doing your guardianship duties, you
Speaker 3: would want an advocate on the ground to give you
Speaker 3: the report as to what's going on with the patient.
Speaker 3: The advocate actually or the guardian, the state guardian actually
Speaker 3: called it's a version of adult protective services to do
Speaker 3: an evaluation to get my wife out of being an advocate.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: And so then we took the extraordinary step of contacting
Speaker 3: this lady's sister and said, hey, you know, I think
Speaker 3: we should hire an attorney and take over guardianship from
Speaker 3: the state appointed guardianship so that we can get her
Speaker 3: back on solid footing and back on her own. She
Speaker 3: at the time, she was homeless, and when she got
Speaker 3: captured from being homeless, they said that, well, you got
Speaker 3: heart issues. They claimed she had a heart attack, got
Speaker 3: her in. She was taken to actually the same hospital
Speaker 3: that Grace was killed at, over an hour and a
Speaker 3: half away from where she was, just to get her
Speaker 3: away from her family. So that system of capturing somebody
Speaker 3: is real. And what happens in that system is if
Speaker 3: you don't have a guardian that is representing your interest,
Speaker 3: so you have a state appointed guardian, they're basically expected
Speaker 3: to just follow the protocol. So right now, for example,
Speaker 3: this lady, the system screwed up again. She ended up
Speaker 3: having oxygen depletion, had to get revived. She ended up
Speaker 3: being without oxygen for twenty minutes. This was last October.
Speaker 3: And now my wife has I just talked with her
Speaker 3: on the way to talking with you on the phone
Speaker 3: because she had an appointment with the neurologists today and
Speaker 3: the neurologists wanted to have this lady on meds the
Speaker 3: rest of her life and be a zombie. And Cindy
Speaker 3: has fought back and the lady is now off. She's
Speaker 3: feeding herself again. It's like you having a stroke. I mean,
Speaker 3: you've got it, but you need that type of care.
Speaker 3: And if you don't fight the system, if she would
Speaker 3: have still been understate, the state appointing guardian, she would
Speaker 3: be dead today. Wow, so this is a big deal.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Usually when you think of a guardian fill in the blank,
Speaker 2: Guardian angel, right, I guess guardian demons as well out there.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, but it's a crazy system, and unfortunately it
Speaker 2: hits you. But you have done so much to warn
Speaker 2: people into eight. People really do appreciate what you've done, Scott.
Speaker 2: It's a very important work that you've been called to
Speaker 2: and it's a way to honor God and to honor
Speaker 2: the memory of Grace as well. And so your book
Speaker 2: is available on Monday.
Speaker 3: Right on Tuesday, Tuesday the tenth is when it's officially released.
Speaker 3: If people go on our Amazing Grace dot net right now,
Speaker 3: you'll see a copy or a picture of the cover.
Speaker 3: If you click on that, you'll see you can order
Speaker 3: on Amazon, on Barnes and Noble and Goodreads. There's both
Speaker 3: the kindle version and the hardcover and both will be
Speaker 3: released on the tenth. The way I understand it, and
Speaker 3: I did my own order just to see how it
Speaker 3: would work, it says that I will have my order
Speaker 3: on the tenth, that it's going to ship on the ninth,
Speaker 3: and I'll have it on the tenth. It's interesting they
Speaker 3: have this process. I actually have one here, so I
Speaker 3: have my complimentary copy. This is the only one right
Speaker 3: now in the whole world. And they print these one
Speaker 3: at a time, so they have a their their process
Speaker 3: of printing is they you know, this is a this
Speaker 3: is a color book. I chose to do it in
Speaker 3: color because of all the diagrams and evidence that I
Speaker 3: brought to the table. I wanted to have it in color.
Speaker 3: And they print a full color book one at a
Speaker 3: time on their press.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's amazing. Well, thank you so much for doing that.
Speaker 2: And again your podcast, what give me the name of
Speaker 2: your podcast?
Speaker 1: Again?
Speaker 3: The podcast is called Deprogramming with Grace's Dad. Uh, And
Speaker 3: obviously the name is because that's you know, Grace. Grace
Speaker 3: died to wake me up and wake me up to
Speaker 3: what all the things that I've been lied to about,
Speaker 3: and that's what my podcast is about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's good.
Speaker 2: So people can follow this, and of course you see
Speaker 2: this in so many different areas. It's not it's not
Speaker 2: a narrowly defined area. This is permeated from one aspect
Speaker 2: of the other through the medical community, the standard of care,
Speaker 2: the box that they have there, and like I said before,
Speaker 2: it's not just about vaccines. It's about heart disease, it's
Speaker 2: about cancer, it's about everything. It's important to understand how
Speaker 2: the system works before you get into that situation where
Speaker 2: a family member or you are sick and you're starting
Speaker 2: to panic and grasp for straws. I think that's the
Speaker 2: way that they get us in and they pray on
Speaker 2: our ignorance, and they pray on our programming that they
Speaker 2: have so carefully put together, which is what you're exposing.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Gott. I appreciate it. God bless you.
Speaker 1: God bless you.
Speaker 2: David.
Speaker 3: You have a gift that sizing things up. You did
Speaker 3: a great time.
Speaker 2: They appreciate you well. Thank you, Thank you, Scott. Looking
Speaker 2: forward to seeing this book.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
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