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<v Speaker 1>Always made extra special.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only do we hear from Christopher Smithaman get an

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<v Speaker 2>airful from Christopher. I think it's on fire. This morning,

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<v Speaker 2>we get to hear from Brian James, all with financials.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian James a financial planner. He is providing us with

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<v Speaker 2>the Monday Monday segment. Brian, Welcome back to the Morning Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Always a pleasure talking with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning much Thomas, and welcome back to you as

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<v Speaker 3>well to your own show.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, and yeah, I got a chuckle out of the

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<v Speaker 2>topic list stock future is based on the news and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my immediate reaction to that, just basic summary

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<v Speaker 2>of what we're going to talk about was stock futures

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<v Speaker 2>maybe based on memes that float around and really not

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<v Speaker 2>connected with things like pe ratios or reality, but just

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<v Speaker 2>because people get all ginned up over topics designed to distract.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not quite sure that's the direction you were

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<v Speaker 2>planning on going. Well, I think that's there's some truth

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<v Speaker 2>to that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we react to whatever is in front of us,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's a lot more in front of us. It

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<v Speaker 3>seems like there's a lot more every single day. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you go back to twenty thirty years, the only

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<v Speaker 3>thing you had was lou Dobbs and his market report

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<v Speaker 3>and those.

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<v Speaker 1>Kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, to do at the end of the day. Now

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<v Speaker 3>it's in your face all day, every day. And that

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<v Speaker 3>has led us to a situation where even if there

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<v Speaker 3>isn't a headline, gosh darn it, we're gonna find one.

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<v Speaker 3>And we look to memes and we look to all

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<v Speaker 3>this other kind of social media stuff for whatever is

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<v Speaker 3>everybody talking about. There may not actually be a headline,

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<v Speaker 3>but somebody's talking about something, and by god, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to react to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no question about it. Also, you know, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a dear friend, Jay Rattliffe. I heard media aviation expert

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<v Speaker 2>Jay Ratloff, who also is a bit of a day trader,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's a quick in and out guy. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the way he trades and the way he teaches how

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<v Speaker 2>to trade, And that's part of his business is to

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<v Speaker 2>teach people. His methodology usually really successful. So in like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, thirty minutes in the morning, he will jump

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<v Speaker 2>in following some kind of trend to identify it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then as soon as he gets some kind of profit,

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<v Speaker 2>he gets right out. So in a half hour, who

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<v Speaker 2>may make five thousand dollars because he doesn't hang on

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<v Speaker 2>to any given stock. And I know that's not the

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<v Speaker 2>methodology that you prefer, which is mixed index funds and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that, but I think it's because of the

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<v Speaker 2>mean reality of the world that those stocks will fluctuate

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<v Speaker 2>so rapidly during a day someoney gets the word out,

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<v Speaker 2>the stock will jump, and you got to just know

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<v Speaker 2>when to dump it and not hang onto it for

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<v Speaker 2>too long or you're gonna lose your money in a

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<v Speaker 2>single day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think and on the idea of day trading,

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<v Speaker 3>and uh, you know, I know, I know Jay, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's he's got his strategy, and I think that the

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<v Speaker 3>keyword there is prefer which doesn't mean rule out anything.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I think even Jay himself will tell

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<v Speaker 3>you that you need to keep your core money in

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<v Speaker 3>a good, you know, good diversified type of a portfolio

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<v Speaker 3>that frees you up to do the kind of things

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<v Speaker 3>that he trains on. And that's okay, there's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 3>with that. You want to take a flyer on something,

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<v Speaker 3>then then then knock yourself out. But day trading is

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<v Speaker 3>a job. It's not something where I'm gonna go at

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<v Speaker 3>a stoplight. I'm going to buy a stock real quick

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<v Speaker 3>and then I'll sell it at lunchtime. No, you're just

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<v Speaker 3>sitting there watching numbers on a screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife was like, you need to take Jay's class.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to take Day's class. And I'm thinking to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>it is a job, you know. You you you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to commit yourself to following the stock market or following

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<v Speaker 2>individual stocks. And honestly, man, that does not sound like

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<v Speaker 2>it's fun. You know, it doesn't grab my attention, even

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<v Speaker 2>though you can make money at it, you know, applying

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<v Speaker 2>meeting myself to that kind of activity just just like

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<v Speaker 2>it's just it's not appealing, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And a lot of people out there too, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we hear the stories about crypto and people like make

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<v Speaker 3>kind of approach.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not buying and sitting on something.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't you know, a stock where you're you're picking

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<v Speaker 3>up something because they just invented the new widget we

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<v Speaker 3>all have to have and you can just sit and

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<v Speaker 3>watch it rise. You have to learn how to bounce

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<v Speaker 3>in and out of it. Then you have to be

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<v Speaker 3>willing and more importantly, Brian Thomas, you have to be

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<v Speaker 3>willing to take the hits. Everybody who has made money

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<v Speaker 3>in anything has lost a lot of money in the

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<v Speaker 3>exact same thing. And you're hearing about the good run

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<v Speaker 3>that they just had. They don't bother bringing up they

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<v Speaker 3>took like gambling. I won four hundred dollars in the casino.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like one day, and then you know the

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<v Speaker 2>prior six days, you lost four hundred every single day.

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody who tells you they made a bunch of money

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<v Speaker 3>and something that's great, ask them for the full year.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, up ups and downs of whatever they're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And if they're doing something so great, that's awesome. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they're in the next Warren Buffett, But well take a

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<v Speaker 3>breath before you believe them.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that does impact the market as

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<v Speaker 2>well as market futures, jobs data and I guess US

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<v Speaker 2>data showed non farm payrolls increased by one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine thousand jobs last month. It was downwardly. It

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<v Speaker 2>was revised one hundred and forty seven thousand in April.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does that mean? Unemployment rates is static at

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<v Speaker 2>four point two, which is not bad. I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>I guess considered full employment anyway, We've talked about that before.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're just about darreed. And remember most people will

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<v Speaker 3>go well fulls one hundred percent. So why are we calling,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, ninety six percent employment full? Well, we have

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<v Speaker 3>to have some some oil in the engine. If everybody

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<v Speaker 3>is employed, then that means we can't expand anymore. So

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<v Speaker 3>we need that buffer of people who need jobs so

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<v Speaker 3>that businesses can expand and do the things they need

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<v Speaker 3>to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, some good news last week.

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<v Speaker 3>Expectations were kind of low heading into the monthly report

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<v Speaker 3>that this one came from ADP. I remember, so ADP

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<v Speaker 3>is a private company, of course, just like any other

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<v Speaker 3>well public trade, but it's in the private sector and

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<v Speaker 3>they're simply reporting on Here's what our little app shows

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of all the people who were added to

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<v Speaker 3>the system. Because ADP is ultimately a payroll company, they

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<v Speaker 3>know exactly how many people were on the system a

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<v Speaker 3>month ago and are on now, and then we extrapolate

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<v Speaker 3>that out to mean something in the overall economy. But

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<v Speaker 3>the main job support showed that employers added about one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and thirty nine thousand jobs. The expectation was one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty six thousand. So a lot of times,

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<v Speaker 3>as we know, when we talk about the economy and

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<v Speaker 3>the market, what we're trying to do, we're reacting to

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<v Speaker 3>whether the analysts were right or not. And in this case,

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<v Speaker 3>the analysts were slightly wrong, but in a good way.

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<v Speaker 3>We got more than we expected.

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<v Speaker 1>No fair enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I know, so what are some of the

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<v Speaker 2>other things. I know we got China to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>as well, But officials are meeting with the China to

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<v Speaker 2>discuss trade, and this seems like I being an on again,

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<v Speaker 2>off again proposition, you know, things that seemed to be

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<v Speaker 2>going in the right direction, and then as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>they sit down to have talks, it tends to go nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>At least that's what it seems to me to be. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been following yet as closely as perhaps I should.

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<v Speaker 2>But then again, as we talked about a moment ago,

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<v Speaker 2>there's like eight million different things you can talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>and I tend to be following something else other than

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<v Speaker 2>our on and off, on again, off again relationship with China.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, So, so last week there were some discussions

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<v Speaker 3>between Trump and President she of China for a nice

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<v Speaker 3>phone call that that Trump described as very good, which

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<v Speaker 3>is of course always super descriptive, and we get a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of information out of a couple of adjectivicy forros

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<v Speaker 3>out after a call. But they talked about rare earth

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<v Speaker 3>minerals and you know, continuing to talk and renewing negotiations

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<v Speaker 3>and all that, and so markets generally took that conversation

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<v Speaker 3>as a positive step, although as you as you just mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>there's not a whole lot of meat to it. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the markets are responding to the fact that, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so underneath right now, the economy seems to be doing okay,

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<v Speaker 3>as we just talked about, the jobs report seems to

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<v Speaker 3>be coming along just you know, decently, and we are

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<v Speaker 3>willing to have conversations with China and they are willing

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<v Speaker 3>to have conversations with us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no you know, otherwise it's a big nothing burger

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<v Speaker 3>because there isn't a whole lot you can you can

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<v Speaker 3>sink your teeth into it as to here's how the

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<v Speaker 3>United States and China are going to move forward together

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<v Speaker 3>within this global trade economy. It's just the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>we are still talking to each other, and underneath, the

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<v Speaker 3>economy is doing Okay, So as far as taking the

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<v Speaker 3>tempers of the water right now, we are not in

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<v Speaker 3>panic vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I you know, speaking of panic vote and

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<v Speaker 2>I know panic you know, makes the headlines. The suggestion

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<v Speaker 2>that China would dump all US treasuries and and quit

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with completely. That's not possible for them, is it now?

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<v Speaker 3>So you have to remember whether we'd like each other

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<v Speaker 3>or not doesn't really factor into the overall global success

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<v Speaker 3>of each individual country's economy. If China, China is the

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<v Speaker 3>largest holder of treasury bonds other than the US Treasury itself. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>And if they dumped all of those treasuries, if they

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<v Speaker 3>simply walked away, then the value of those would drop

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<v Speaker 3>completely and that would hurt China as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why they haven't done yet.

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<v Speaker 3>If they could pull the trigger and there was no

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<v Speaker 3>downside to them, they'd done it already to put themselves

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<v Speaker 3>in a better position, as would we. Every country is

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<v Speaker 3>out for its own interests. So but but everything is

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<v Speaker 3>so interconnected now you can't really make a move without

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's the idea of if they were to pull

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<v Speaker 3>all of their currency out of and repatriate their currency

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<v Speaker 3>by pulling it out of US treasuries and US debt.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's it going to go.

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<v Speaker 3>They're either gonna they're gonna have to park it in

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<v Speaker 3>the the next best country out there and buy their debt.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's just not a heck of a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>past the United States and China. So I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>there's that's very likely at all, But it sharres a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is, and you know, it kind of keeps

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we talked a little bit about China.

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<v Speaker 1>I think fair enough on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now explain this to me because I understand that

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<v Speaker 2>are oil futures up? What's what's the story on this one, Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>We're finally getting response, I believe, to the to the

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<v Speaker 3>United States and then we spend a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we spend a lot of money traveling around. We hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>We made it all the way through May without talking

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<v Speaker 1>But price we had to pump have been down.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I think I think in the past it's

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<v Speaker 3>prices going up. And politicians do this. They have certain

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<v Speaker 3>gotta be paying attention to these things. Well, I think

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<v Speaker 3>we've been distracted by so many things this past year

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<v Speaker 3>that that hype never occurred. But now we're running actually

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<v Speaker 3>vacation season and all that people are driving and doing more.

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<v Speaker 3>The economy actually is despite the headlines of the economy

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<v Speaker 3>is doing okay. Yeah, so there is still demand out there,

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<v Speaker 3>and we always have that switch to the summer mix

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<v Speaker 1>But I think for once it's just based on.

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<v Speaker 1>All.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, if you own a Tesla, you don't need gasoline.

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<v Speaker 2>But Tesla's stock is another issue. You know, I was

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<v Speaker 2>laughing about it earlier, Brian. So we have Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 1>They hate him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's cutting things evil Elon Musk. So let's vandalize Tesla's

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<v Speaker 2>and let's dump the stock. So his stock obviously very volatile,

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<v Speaker 2>and it dropped. So now we got the Trump Musk

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<v Speaker 2>split up and divorce, saw us making the headlines everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, you're look at their name calling and

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<v Speaker 2>Trump or Musk isn't on board for the big beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>the suggested impact of angering the Trump side of the

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<v Speaker 2>political ledgers. So are they dumping Tesla stock as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I see Tesla's not done real well, although it

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<v Speaker 2>is it did jump a little bit the other day.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Tesla of course dipped its toe into the political waters.

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<v Speaker 3>You know obviously when when Elon Musk took his role,

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<v Speaker 3>and really before that, when when he took his role

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<v Speaker 3>in the campaign. Yeah, so a hard fourteen percent drop

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<v Speaker 3>last week when the original announcement or the threat was

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<v Speaker 3>made that we could remove the electric vehicle subsidies from

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<v Speaker 3>you know, from the ability for somebody to buy it

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<v Speaker 3>and make a little bit more reasonably priced. So a

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<v Speaker 3>little bounce back there after that fourteen percent drop. It

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<v Speaker 3>came back almost four percent. But when that drop happened,

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<v Speaker 3>it took away about one hundred and fifty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in market value.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing has changed about a Tesla vehicle.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same product it was before this whole debate,

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<v Speaker 3>and it kind of fills the same role. However, this

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<v Speaker 3>is what happens when when companies dip their toes into

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<v Speaker 3>the political where We've seen this before. Henry Ford took

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<v Speaker 3>his company through a major hit when he published in

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<v Speaker 3>his own newspaper some anti semitic articles. Board was not

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<v Speaker 3>publicly traded at the time that he did that. But

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<v Speaker 3>same car company, you know, same idea, took a major

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<v Speaker 3>We're just seeing the fallout from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and let's face it, you know, Tesla's as a

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<v Speaker 2>that or some other electric vehicles. And I think this

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<v Speaker 2>whole green agenda seems to be taking a nosedive globally.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, people are realizing that, you know, solar panels

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<v Speaker 2>on electric vehicles anyway. Hybrids seem to be the way

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<v Speaker 2>of the future. Yeah, and I think they're the way

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think a hybrid is the best deal

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<v Speaker 3>you've got going combining old technology with new until we

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<v Speaker 1>You know. But it's interesting there.

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<v Speaker 3>Elon Musk has always been obviously at the cutting edge

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he's got such a huge fan base.

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<v Speaker 3>But even he had a solar company called Solar City,

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<v Speaker 3>and that we don't talk about that nearly as much

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<v Speaker 3>Don't forget SpaceX's right now, it's our only way to

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<v Speaker 1>He's got it at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>If he wants these companies to stay somehow connected and

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<v Speaker 3>And right now the relationship's not going too fabulously, although

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the direction it's going to go, because

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<v Speaker 2>Let's pause, bring Brian Jabs back to talk about some

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<v Speaker 2>out there in the world. I know, folks. One of

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's accurate in terms of it being a myth.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it's not enough. They're therefore it's never enough.

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<v Speaker 3>So these are just small habits in early on in

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<v Speaker 1>fall for that myth.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough, Now, what about the idea that, well, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have a big, fat paycheck, then you are financially successful.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that's a myth.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a screaming myth because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>take that high income and they make they make financial

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<v Speaker 3>messes out of themselves. Do they use the phraseology all

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<v Speaker 3>the time? I might have a client with five hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars in their retirement plan and they're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be just fine. My other clients with five million dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in their retirement plans live like they have twenty million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars in their retirement plan. So what matters is your

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<v Speaker 3>is your cash flow, not your pile of money.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the spending that counts, not how big the pile is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that pile money that you have invested, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>have more to invest if you exercise financial discipline. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of the thing reasons why I always

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<v Speaker 2>say I outkicked my coverage when I married. My wife's

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<v Speaker 2>very frugal, and that aligns with my mentality. I have

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<v Speaker 2>always been absolutely scared of scared, like hell of debt,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean even having a mortgage. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we're capable of making the monthly mortgage payment. But we

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<v Speaker 2>went a little more frugal than we certainly could have

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<v Speaker 2>afforded when it came to our house because I never

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be house poor. I mean, her her mindset

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<v Speaker 2>was completely in line with mine. So you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you really don't need it, you just don't buy it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's financial discipline.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that leads you.

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<v Speaker 3>That leads you to a position where down the road

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be able to live your life without concern for

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<v Speaker 3>where the next meal is coming from, the bills paid,

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<v Speaker 3>and so forth, and move the ball forward, not always

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<v Speaker 3>scrambling to for that next nickel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot to do in enjoying the world

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<v Speaker 2>without having to spend a lot of money. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I just learned that lesson over my entire life. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess because I grew up on the west side. Something

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<v Speaker 2>about the water over there. And finally, the whole idea

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<v Speaker 2>of buy now, pay later. What's what's this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so this is a when you're buying something online anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>most people ignore it. But if you're buying something online,

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<v Speaker 3>there's always in your shopping cart when you're checking out,

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<v Speaker 3>there's always a little link nowadays that says, hey, you

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<v Speaker 3>could do this in for you. You could spend this

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six dollars and forty two cents in four easy

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<v Speaker 3>payments and your life will be great. There's a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of companies that do this. Klarna kla Rna is one

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<v Speaker 3>of the big ones. This is a Swedish company that

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<v Speaker 3>they're basically making money. This is the modern day layaway.

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<v Speaker 3>So what they're doing is they're taking these relatively small debts.

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<v Speaker 3>The average Colarna balance is about eighty seven dollars, as

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to the average credit card balance more traditional financing

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<v Speaker 3>about sixty five hundred. So they're taking these extremely small

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<v Speaker 3>amounts and you'll pay about ninety nine percent of users

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<v Speaker 3>paying four different payments, and you're basically applying for credit

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<v Speaker 3>able to get it without without a good credit score.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the same kind of underwriting you'll go through

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<v Speaker 3>in a credit card transaction. Klarna it makes money by

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<v Speaker 3>hoping that some of these people out there aren't gonna

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<v Speaker 3>make payments right at all, and they're gonna get They're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna hit him with late fees and all that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff. The late fee on a you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>can be a seven dollars late fee on an eighty

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<v Speaker 3>seven dollars payment. If you think about that, that's about

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<v Speaker 3>nine percent, and that's if you annualize that out over

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<v Speaker 3>a long over a full year. That's a huge amount

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<v Speaker 3>of money. But remember a lot of people translate by

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<v Speaker 3>now pay later to buy now pay maybe, or never

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<v Speaker 3>had the intent to pay in the first place. So

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<v Speaker 3>Klarna consequently has laid off several thousand employees.

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<v Speaker 2>And for whatever reason, student loans just popped into my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Brian, Yeah, a little bit again.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely buy now pay maybe, I'm or wait until the

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<v Speaker 3>government decides that we're not gonna bother collecting those dollars anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>which is never gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey man, it's always a pleasure talking with you, Brian James.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to Worth Financial as always for loaning you out

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<v Speaker 2>for a few segments, so I've good appreciate the information.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure my listeners do as well. We will have

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<v Speaker 2>another go at this next Monday, and the meantime, have

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<v Speaker 2>a full week.

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<v Speaker 1>My friend. Yes, sir, stay dry, talk to you Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks brother. Coming to a day thirty five.

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