Speaker 1: Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your
Speaker 1: daily comedy news. As I mentioned a few times, I
Speaker 1: want to take the weekend off. It was my son
Speaker 1: graduated from college. I didn't want to be sitting there
Speaker 1: on Friday at four in the morning recording a bunch
Speaker 1: of episodes before I headed out. A Rolling Stone caught
Speaker 1: up with John Mullaney. This is lengthy here. Apparently Mullaney
Speaker 1: first broke down the Rock Hall of Fame inductees and
Speaker 1: snubs with Rolling Stone in twenty eighteen. The plan was
Speaker 1: for it to be an annual tradition, Laney said govid
Speaker 1: and some personal problems got in the way, but he's
Speaker 1: ready to recommit and says I'll make this an annual
Speaker 1: thing now. Mullaney started off with some advice when you're
Speaker 1: in your twenties, take as many photos of yourself as possible.
Speaker 1: You're so good looking. The topic of chubby Chicker, Rolling
Speaker 1: Stone asked Mullaney, does he have any experience with the
Speaker 1: twister Let's Twist Again? Malaney said, well, I really appreciate
Speaker 1: Let's twist again like we did last summer. It's a
Speaker 1: funny lyric for a reboot I really like the bald
Speaker 1: faces of Let's Twist Again like we did last summer, saying,
Speaker 1: remember we did the song the Twists last year, we're
Speaker 1: doing it again. And also, I think Let's Twist Again
Speaker 1: is a better song than the Twist. I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm alone in that. Sorry, didn't meaning make it sound
Speaker 1: like such a novel ideas. Chuppy Chick are still with us.
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone asked John, is there a group that you
Speaker 1: don't care about that you want to see in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? He said, okay, I mean a lot
Speaker 1: are in already helped me think a little. Buttole Surfers,
Speaker 1: Flaming Lips, they're not in right Stone, No, they're not.
Speaker 1: Olney talked about Phish. This was hugely important music to us.
Speaker 1: It really kept bands alive. Dad, you have a band
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine playing guitars, piano and Drum's was
Speaker 1: not easy to find. Funny exchange here, John, I have
Speaker 1: no opinion on the Black Crows being diplomatic. No, I
Speaker 1: genuinely have no opinion. So if that's the pull quote,
Speaker 1: we've got a viral story. In twenty eighteen, John said
Speaker 1: that the Hall had an anti Chicago Bias. O'Laney said,
Speaker 1: a lot of things I said in twenty eighteen could
Speaker 1: be buffeted with, but in reality, John's a little off.
Speaker 1: I like that. They don't say, well, John's just misguided
Speaker 1: and might be on speed. They're like, is there some truth?
Speaker 1: We won't say no? All right? Moving on. Tonight is
Speaker 1: the twelfth annual Patrise O'Neill Comedy Benefit Concert, Rosebud Baker,
Speaker 1: greer Bourne's DC, Benny Bill Birds Him Dylan to Mesh Patel,
Speaker 1: Sean Patten, and Rich Voss. Pretty good lineup. That's at
Speaker 1: New York City Center at seven point thirty. I've told
Speaker 1: the story in the past. I'm not gonna be shy.
Speaker 1: Never ever once enjoyed an encounter with Patrise O'Neil. He
Speaker 1: just had this thing of like he would just come
Speaker 1: at you for no reason, just to see how you
Speaker 1: were to react. And like, dude, this is a professional workspace.
Speaker 1: We're at a comedy festival. You know, we're trying to
Speaker 1: do interviews. Don't do your stupid thing. Go away. So personally,
Speaker 1: Patrise O'Neil's comedy funny. Patrise O'Neil, the dude, I know
Speaker 1: the comedians revere him, love him, never enjoyed my time
Speaker 1: with him. That said, let's raise some money tonight with
Speaker 1: a good lineup. Dylan from the Facebook group which is
Speaker 1: Daily Comedy News Podcast group share this one with me
Speaker 1: from crack Nora Dunn. Remember when Nora Dunn was on SNL.
Speaker 1: Well back on May twelfth, nineteen ninety Andrew Dice Clay
Speaker 1: hosted SNL. He was quite controversial back in that time.
Speaker 1: Nora Dunn refused to participate in the show. That week,
Speaker 1: SNL doubled down. They kept Dice and made repeated jokes
Speaker 1: about Nora Dunn. Cracked assd You'd been on the show
Speaker 1: for five years at that point, did you plan on
Speaker 1: coming back the next year? Nora said, I actually wasn't
Speaker 1: coming back after my five years, but the reason was
Speaker 1: only because I didn't want to do any more sketches.
Speaker 1: I didn't have any more sketches. I was really anxious
Speaker 1: to move on. A lot of what I call kids
Speaker 1: were coming in. I thought, boy, this humor is now
Speaker 1: bending towards twelve year old boys. She's referencing Adam Sandler. There,
Speaker 1: Nora Dunn and I could be friends. She says of Sandler,
Speaker 1: a great guy. But I have to tell you, when
Speaker 1: I saw him on the show playing that thing, I
Speaker 1: was like time to leave anyway. So Dice is gonna
Speaker 1: host the show, Nora tells Al Franken, I ain't doing
Speaker 1: the show. I'm not coming in. I called several other
Speaker 1: cast members and said, you know that Andrew Dice Clay's
Speaker 1: doing the show, and They're like no. Some were saying, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not to perform with him, and I won't write
Speaker 1: for him, and I said, well, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: work with him. That's how the word got out to NBC.
Speaker 1: It must have been Monday morning. I got a call
Speaker 1: from the AP. He told me S and L was
Speaker 1: posting a piece on me that said my contract wasn't
Speaker 1: going to be renewed. Cracked. Who did you voice your
Speaker 1: objections to that you weren't going to do the show?
Speaker 1: Just Al Franken, Norah, Yeah, just Al Franken. I called
Speaker 1: Lauren on Monday morning, too, but I believe he was
Speaker 1: at a funeral. He didn't return my call. Franken wasn't surprised.
Speaker 1: He actually asked Lauren that week not to have him
Speaker 1: on the show. He said, it's a mistake. He's divisive
Speaker 1: and people are going to turn against us if you
Speaker 1: have him on the show. But Lauren said he was
Speaker 1: an interesting phenomenon worth examining. Nora said, well, I was Hitler.
Speaker 1: I've been examining him for years. That doesn't mean I
Speaker 1: accept him. I know. He says he was doing a parody,
Speaker 1: but the laughs are coming because they love the character
Speaker 1: and they agree with that character. He was Andrew Dice Clay,
Speaker 1: he was billed as him, he's came out as him. Cracked,
Speaker 1: why do you think Lauren went forward with him as
Speaker 1: the host? Nora, I don't know. I think he didn't
Speaker 1: want admit he was wrong. I think he was very,
Speaker 1: very upset the way I did it, which he calls
Speaker 1: bad form. But he did call him and he did know,
Speaker 1: and I didn't think that anyone would notice. Crack said,
Speaker 1: how come you never objected to someone like Sam Kennison? Nora.
Speaker 1: I love Sam. He was a smart comic. I got
Speaker 1: along with him very well. I'd seen him in clubs
Speaker 1: and he wasn't hateful. Most of his jokes turned on himself.
Speaker 1: Dice was so hateful. He's whipping people up by saying things.
Speaker 1: Even Johnny Mack doesn't want to repeat thirty years later.
Speaker 1: I'll paraphrase jokes about aids. I'll leave it there. People
Speaker 1: would pound their tables. One of the good pieces I
Speaker 1: read on Dice was saying, if you listen to a show,
Speaker 1: people aren't laughing, they're pounding on the tables. They're expressing anger.
Speaker 1: That's what they're angry about. Interesting to change here. Have
Speaker 1: you spoken to Lauren about any of this? No, he
Speaker 1: never spoke to me again. He did hire me to
Speaker 1: do some things. He was the producer on a Seth
Speaker 1: Rogan movie and I got worded that Lauren wants you
Speaker 1: to do it, but he only wants to pay you
Speaker 1: twenty five hundred dollars and for the size of the role,
Speaker 1: it should have been like twenty five grand. I did it,
Speaker 1: but it was one of those things that his little message,
Speaker 1: you're going to come and work for me for scale.
Speaker 1: I also noticed in the credits that I was put
Speaker 1: last after every character that could have been a walk on,
Speaker 1: and I had a pretty long scene too. That's the
Speaker 1: kind of thing I suspect. Laura of Wow I was
Speaker 1: seated at the fiftieth Aniverse in the last row of
Speaker 1: the studio. I wasn't asked to be in anything, and
Speaker 1: in the montage of the year that I was on,
Speaker 1: I wasn't in it at all, and I shouldn't be
Speaker 1: saying this. I went on the floor afterwards. I ended
Speaker 1: up standing next to Marty Short watching Paul McCartney sing,
Speaker 1: and when we finished, we looked at each other and
Speaker 1: we had tears in our eyes. Then I turned and
Speaker 1: there's Lorne standing there. I hadn't talked to him in years.
Speaker 1: I went up and I said, Lorne Michaels and hugged
Speaker 1: him fifty years. Good work. He just said yeah and
Speaker 1: walked away, and I went, now that's a petty man. Wow.
Speaker 1: The only times caught up with Eliza Slessinger, they were
Speaker 1: curious how she reaches different age audiences. Eliza said, I'm
Speaker 1: always developing jokes for me, and I'm mindful of who
Speaker 1: might be in the audience. But I'm very lucky that
Speaker 1: I don't have a homogeneous audience. I think with some comics,
Speaker 1: you know exactly the archetype of their fans. And because
Speaker 1: I'm fortunate enough to be able to play audiences across
Speaker 1: the country, you don't really know who you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: You can kind of guess, but we have everyone from
Speaker 1: conservative veterans to a super queer contingent to people who
Speaker 1: just look like your parents gen Z. So it's always
Speaker 1: about the truth, and it's always about saying something honest,
Speaker 1: because comedy comes from vulnerability and from honesty. I don't
Speaker 1: hate gen Z or baby boomers. Comedy comes from a
Speaker 1: place of very much wanting to be seen and explain myself.
Speaker 1: I don't ever write anything to hurt anyone deliberately, and
Speaker 1: so all my comedy comes from this unending need to
Speaker 1: understand what the bleep is going on. I think we
Speaker 1: make the mistake of thinking that if it's pro female,
Speaker 1: it has to be anti male, and both things can
Speaker 1: be true. That you're critiquing something without aiming to harm
Speaker 1: and also wanting women to feel a little bit better.
Speaker 1: One of the comments that I sadly still get is
Speaker 1: women will come up to me and they'll say that
Speaker 1: was my first stand up show, and I'll be like, yep,
Speaker 1: that's right, because your boyfriend probably only showed you his
Speaker 1: favorite male comics, so you thought comedy wasn't for you.
Speaker 1: I'm not the only woman he does stand up. Thankfully,
Speaker 1: there's so many more now that when I started. So
Speaker 1: everybody can find something for them. But I think there's
Speaker 1: a way to bring men in. I call it digestible feminism,
Speaker 1: bring men in a way. So you just present the facts.
Speaker 1: You make everyone laugh, but you're saying something that women
Speaker 1: in the audience can vibrate with, and men, if you
Speaker 1: don't hate women, will be like, hey, that's a good thought.
Speaker 1: Nobody buys a ticket to a comedy show to hear
Speaker 1: why their politics are wrong, while their gender is wrong,
Speaker 1: while their colors wrong. And so I try to keep
Speaker 1: it all social and light and just hate you with
Speaker 1: skating hot facts that are irrefutable wrapped in comedy so
Speaker 1: you can digest it and talk about it on your
Speaker 1: drive home to lacrescenta later. And that is your comedy
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