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<v Speaker 1>Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your

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<v Speaker 1>daily comedy news. As I mentioned a few times, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to take the weekend off. It was my son

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<v Speaker 1>graduated from college. I didn't want to be sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday at four in the morning recording a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of episodes before I headed out. A Rolling Stone caught

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<v Speaker 1>up with John Mullaney. This is lengthy here. Apparently Mullaney

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<v Speaker 1>first broke down the Rock Hall of Fame inductees and

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<v Speaker 1>snubs with Rolling Stone in twenty eighteen. The plan was

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<v Speaker 1>for it to be an annual tradition, Laney said govid

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<v Speaker 1>and some personal problems got in the way, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>ready to recommit and says I'll make this an annual

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<v Speaker 1>thing now. Mullaney started off with some advice when you're

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<v Speaker 1>in your twenties, take as many photos of yourself as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so good looking. The topic of chubby Chicker, Rolling

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<v Speaker 1>Stone asked Mullaney, does he have any experience with the

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<v Speaker 1>twister Let's Twist Again? Malaney said, well, I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>Let's twist again like we did last summer. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>funny lyric for a reboot I really like the bald

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<v Speaker 1>faces of Let's Twist Again like we did last summer, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>remember we did the song the Twists last year, we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it again. And also, I think Let's Twist Again

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<v Speaker 1>is a better song than the Twist. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm alone in that. Sorry, didn't meaning make it sound

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<v Speaker 1>like such a novel ideas. Chuppy Chick are still with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Rolling Stone asked John, is there a group that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about that you want to see in the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame? He said, okay, I mean a lot

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<v Speaker 1>are in already helped me think a little. Buttole Surfers,

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<v Speaker 1>Flaming Lips, they're not in right Stone, No, they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Olney talked about Phish. This was hugely important music to us.

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<v Speaker 1>It really kept bands alive. Dad, you have a band

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety nine playing guitars, piano and Drum's was

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<v Speaker 1>not easy to find. Funny exchange here, John, I have

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<v Speaker 1>no opinion on the Black Crows being diplomatic. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely have no opinion. So if that's the pull quote,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a viral story. In twenty eighteen, John said

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<v Speaker 1>that the Hall had an anti Chicago Bias. O'Laney said,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things I said in twenty eighteen could

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<v Speaker 1>be buffeted with, but in reality, John's a little off.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. They don't say, well, John's just misguided

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<v Speaker 1>and might be on speed. They're like, is there some truth?

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<v Speaker 1>We won't say no? All right? Moving on. Tonight is

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<v Speaker 1>the twelfth annual Patrise O'Neill Comedy Benefit Concert, Rosebud Baker,

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<v Speaker 1>greer Bourne's DC, Benny Bill Birds Him Dylan to Mesh Patel,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Patten, and Rich Voss. Pretty good lineup. That's at

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<v Speaker 1>New York City Center at seven point thirty. I've told

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<v Speaker 1>the story in the past. I'm not gonna be shy.

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<v Speaker 1>Never ever once enjoyed an encounter with Patrise O'Neil. He

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<v Speaker 1>just had this thing of like he would just come

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<v Speaker 1>at you for no reason, just to see how you

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<v Speaker 1>were to react. And like, dude, this is a professional workspace.

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<v Speaker 1>We're at a comedy festival. You know, we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do interviews. Don't do your stupid thing. Go away. So personally,

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<v Speaker 1>Patrise O'Neil's comedy funny. Patrise O'Neil, the dude, I know

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<v Speaker 1>the comedians revere him, love him, never enjoyed my time

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<v Speaker 1>with him. That said, let's raise some money tonight with

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<v Speaker 1>a good lineup. Dylan from the Facebook group which is

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<v Speaker 1>Daily Comedy News Podcast group share this one with me

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<v Speaker 1>from crack Nora Dunn. Remember when Nora Dunn was on SNL.

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<v Speaker 1>Well back on May twelfth, nineteen ninety Andrew Dice Clay

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<v Speaker 1>hosted SNL. He was quite controversial back in that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Nora Dunn refused to participate in the show. That week,

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<v Speaker 1>SNL doubled down. They kept Dice and made repeated jokes

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<v Speaker 1>about Nora Dunn. Cracked assd You'd been on the show

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<v Speaker 1>for five years at that point, did you plan on

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<v Speaker 1>coming back the next year? Nora said, I actually wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>coming back after my five years, but the reason was

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<v Speaker 1>only because I didn't want to do any more sketches.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any more sketches. I was really anxious

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<v Speaker 1>to move on. A lot of what I call kids

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<v Speaker 1>were coming in. I thought, boy, this humor is now

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<v Speaker 1>bending towards twelve year old boys. She's referencing Adam Sandler. There,

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<v Speaker 1>Nora Dunn and I could be friends. She says of Sandler,

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<v Speaker 1>a great guy. But I have to tell you, when

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him on the show playing that thing, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like time to leave anyway. So Dice is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>host the show, Nora tells Al Franken, I ain't doing

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I'm not coming in. I called several other

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<v Speaker 1>cast members and said, you know that Andrew Dice Clay's

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<v Speaker 1>doing the show, and They're like no. Some were saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not to perform with him, and I won't write

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<v Speaker 1>for him, and I said, well, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>work with him. That's how the word got out to NBC.

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<v Speaker 1>It must have been Monday morning. I got a call

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<v Speaker 1>from the AP. He told me S and L was

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<v Speaker 1>posting a piece on me that said my contract wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to be renewed. Cracked. Who did you voice your

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<v Speaker 1>objections to that you weren't going to do the show?

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<v Speaker 1>Just Al Franken, Norah, Yeah, just Al Franken. I called

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren on Monday morning, too, but I believe he was

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<v Speaker 1>at a funeral. He didn't return my call. Franken wasn't surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>He actually asked Lauren that week not to have him

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. He said, it's a mistake. He's divisive

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<v Speaker 1>and people are going to turn against us if you

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<v Speaker 1>have him on the show. But Lauren said he was

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting phenomenon worth examining. Nora said, well, I was Hitler.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been examining him for years. That doesn't mean I

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<v Speaker 1>accept him. I know. He says he was doing a parody,

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<v Speaker 1>but the laughs are coming because they love the character

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<v Speaker 1>and they agree with that character. He was Andrew Dice Clay,

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<v Speaker 1>he was billed as him, he's came out as him. Cracked,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you think Lauren went forward with him as

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<v Speaker 1>the host? Nora, I don't know. I think he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want admit he was wrong. I think he was very,

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<v Speaker 1>very upset the way I did it, which he calls

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<v Speaker 1>bad form. But he did call him and he did know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't think that anyone would notice. Crack said,

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<v Speaker 1>how come you never objected to someone like Sam Kennison? Nora.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Sam. He was a smart comic. I got

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<v Speaker 1>along with him very well. I'd seen him in clubs

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<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't hateful. Most of his jokes turned on himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Dice was so hateful. He's whipping people up by saying things.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Johnny Mack doesn't want to repeat thirty years later.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll paraphrase jokes about aids. I'll leave it there. People

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<v Speaker 1>would pound their tables. One of the good pieces I

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<v Speaker 1>read on Dice was saying, if you listen to a show,

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<v Speaker 1>people aren't laughing, they're pounding on the tables. They're expressing anger.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they're angry about. Interesting to change here. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you spoken to Lauren about any of this? No, he

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<v Speaker 1>never spoke to me again. He did hire me to

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<v Speaker 1>do some things. He was the producer on a Seth

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<v Speaker 1>Rogan movie and I got worded that Lauren wants you

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, but he only wants to pay you

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five hundred dollars and for the size of the role,

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<v Speaker 1>it should have been like twenty five grand. I did it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was one of those things that his little message,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to come and work for me for scale.

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<v Speaker 1>I also noticed in the credits that I was put

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<v Speaker 1>last after every character that could have been a walk on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had a pretty long scene too. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing I suspect. Laura of Wow I was

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<v Speaker 1>seated at the fiftieth Aniverse in the last row of

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<v Speaker 1>the studio. I wasn't asked to be in anything, and

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<v Speaker 1>in the montage of the year that I was on,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't in it at all, and I shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>saying this. I went on the floor afterwards. I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up standing next to Marty Short watching Paul McCartney sing,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we finished, we looked at each other and

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<v Speaker 1>we had tears in our eyes. Then I turned and

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<v Speaker 1>there's Lorne standing there. I hadn't talked to him in years.

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<v Speaker 1>I went up and I said, Lorne Michaels and hugged

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<v Speaker 1>him fifty years. Good work. He just said yeah and

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<v Speaker 1>walked away, and I went, now that's a petty man. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>The only times caught up with Eliza Slessinger, they were

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<v Speaker 1>curious how she reaches different age audiences. Eliza said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always developing jokes for me, and I'm mindful of who

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<v Speaker 1>might be in the audience. But I'm very lucky that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a homogeneous audience. I think with some comics,

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<v Speaker 1>you know exactly the archetype of their fans. And because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fortunate enough to be able to play audiences across

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<v Speaker 1>the country, you don't really know who you're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 1>You can kind of guess, but we have everyone from

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<v Speaker 1>conservative veterans to a super queer contingent to people who

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<v Speaker 1>just look like your parents gen Z. So it's always

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<v Speaker 1>about the truth, and it's always about saying something honest,

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<v Speaker 1>because comedy comes from vulnerability and from honesty. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>hate gen Z or baby boomers. Comedy comes from a

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<v Speaker 1>place of very much wanting to be seen and explain myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't ever write anything to hurt anyone deliberately, and

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<v Speaker 1>so all my comedy comes from this unending need to

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<v Speaker 1>understand what the bleep is going on. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>make the mistake of thinking that if it's pro female,

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be anti male, and both things can

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<v Speaker 1>be true. That you're critiquing something without aiming to harm

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<v Speaker 1>and also wanting women to feel a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the comments that I sadly still get is

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<v Speaker 1>women will come up to me and they'll say that

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<v Speaker 1>was my first stand up show, and I'll be like, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, because your boyfriend probably only showed you his

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<v Speaker 1>favorite male comics, so you thought comedy wasn't for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the only woman he does stand up. Thankfully,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many more now that when I started. So

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<v Speaker 1>everybody can find something for them. But I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a way to bring men in. I call it digestible feminism,

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<v Speaker 1>bring men in a way. So you just present the facts.

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<v Speaker 1>You make everyone laugh, but you're saying something that women

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<v Speaker 1>in the audience can vibrate with, and men, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't hate women, will be like, hey, that's a good thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody buys a ticket to a comedy show to hear

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<v Speaker 1>why their politics are wrong, while their gender is wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>while their colors wrong. And so I try to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it all social and light and just hate you with

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<v Speaker 1>skating hot facts that are irrefutable wrapped in comedy so

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<v Speaker 1>you can digest it and talk about it on your

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<v Speaker 1>drive home to lacrescenta later. And that is your comedy

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<v Speaker 1>news for today. If you enjoy the program, tell a

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<v Speaker 1>friend about it too. If you've discovered this thing on YouTube, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an old guy in a basement doing an mostly

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<v Speaker 1>audio podcast. So hook me up, bring the bell and

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<v Speaker 1>like and follow and whatever you're supposed to do on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Just do that. Hook the old guy up. Okay, see

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<v Speaker 1>you guys tomorrow.