Speaker 1: Yo, What is up everybody? And welcome back to another
episode of the One Piece Virgin Podcast, continuing the Journey
slash restarting the journey with the YouTuber from mythos Poseidon.
What's up?
Speaker 2: Hello, I'm excited to talk today.
Speaker 1: Same same we got hell yeah, we got the expert
teching one on one with us here today.
Speaker 3: Hello there. This is gonna be tough for me because
of spoilers.
Speaker 1: No spoilers teching no, no spoilers. Also, fun fact, what
are the crazy coincidence you were here for the Orangetown
Village episode. I went back and checked and you're like,
you said you remembered being on one. I'm like, what
are the odds I invite them for the.
Speaker 3: Same episode I was? I thought, I was Yep.
Speaker 1: Life is just great.
Speaker 4: So that we get to bash the cat pirates.
Speaker 1: Yeah, together again.
Speaker 3: And it's six years when you're doing this again for
a third time. I'll be on again for Orangetown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Orangetown's villain. That's that's this is your time slot.
Speaker 3: This is my time slot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, guys, we got added back four anime uproar from Briggs.
Speaker 4: It's from Briggs.
Speaker 1: You've said it more times than be dude, you said
it more times.
Speaker 4: Anima from anime. I'm not even guys, I'm glad to
be here. Let's talk about Zeruah Village and Orange Town
and uh, let's make some magic happen.
Speaker 1: Makes the magic happen that we can make some magic.
Let's start very generic, like we we usually do. Poseidon
Howard is your general thoughts overall experience. He's still enjoying
one piece.
Speaker 2: Yes, I I am. However, I am starting to see
what you guys were talking about with the pacing. Oh yeah, yeah,
I'm starting to see it was especially was it is
it the.
Speaker 3: Is it Syrup Town?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I started to see what you guys were talking
about once I started getting to like the last like
four or episodes of that arc where the fights I
feel like in real time we're happening in maybe like
thirty to forty five minutes. But then it was getting
really slow, Yeah, where it would like cut to someone's
face for like ten seconds and then it'll cut to
somebody else's face for ten seconds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, slow modem pacing in that Like I don't go
back and watch their village that often, or when I do,
it's the beginning of the arc, because yeah, the final
battle of that with Cerrow and then the Nyambon brothers
and everything it's and Django's there and everything. It really
does feel like a little sloggy in the anime, oh.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And there was like a point where
all was like, I need to watch this at one
point five speed, let's go almost getting a little slow.
Speaker 3: I almost feel like with everything that happens, you could
probably just make that a two part episode and probably
call it a day.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, with everything. This is why I am
a gigantic fan of One Pace. I've mentioned it last
week and everyone in the comments second was like, no,
one pay sucks. One pay sucks. One pay sucks. I'm
telling you chat and people in the comments. Everyone's welcome
to do what they want, watch what they want, but
there's the reason why, Like most people prefer the manga,
and then one Pace literally just makes it like the manga.
The pacing gets so much yep, it's so much faster.
But people are like, oh, it loses the mood, it
loses the ambiance because it's cutting a little bit more.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit I'll tell you what if you
really worry about the ambiance and everything getting cut. Then
wait for the Witch Studio adaptation because that'll probably just
be straight from the manga. So there you go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I did see some comments saying that, you know,
one paste is good on a rewatch, but it's not
good for your first experience.
Speaker 3: I could see that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, as a manga reader, I you know, I'm more
with brings on the one pace thing. Like I have
seen some episodes and some moments in the anime that
I also read in the manga first, and yeah, they're
always dragged out.
Speaker 1: They always drag out. If it's gonna end up with
Besidon watching at one point five time speed, the ambiance
is going to be slightly lost. Anyway, at that point,
one pace might be the move. Maybe not right away,
let her continue to join that this version for a bit,
but trust me, once you like get past the East Blue,
it just gets slowly worse and worse and worse once
you get to the once you get past the time skip,
because what happens is slowly they get closer and closer
to the manga. So basically every fight scene, every conversation,
every pan to someone's face or to the sky just
theays keep on extending it and One Pace is an
amazing story that me tecking at Animac are in love with,
but that's one of its major faults.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the anime is you know for that reason. But yeah,
I always say when it comes to One Piece, like
if the first one hundred chapters or so is not, like,
if you're not feeling it by then, then that's probably
a good place to just stop.
Speaker 1: But you know what's pretty cool though, if she's liking
it so far as of Orangetown and Serruit Village, I
will say this is the weakest part of One Piece
for me.
Speaker 3: It builds, I mean, it gets better, better and better.
Speaker 4: Yes, So especially if you're if you're you're starting out
and watching the anime and like the pace of sur
Village and and Orange Town and stuff, it might be
like one of those things where if you're not you
don't feel committed yet, you just kind of drop it
because you're like, you know, it's slow, it's not that good.
So that is the challenge, because yeah, like I think
that the stakes keep getting raised and the story keeps
getting better as you go, so that even when you
know it's slower, you're kind of like, Okay, I'll stick
with it because I'm really you know, invested. But in
these early stages when you're not that invested and it's
not that epic necessarily, as it does get later, that's
I think where most people will probably drop it because
of that.
Speaker 3: I can see that happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets it gets better and better, so it's
less likely to be dropped once you get to some
of these future arcs. What I'm excited to hear your
reaction to quick question, is the real still your favorite
boy favorite character?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I still love him very much. There was
a particular part from I can't remember which episode it was,
but it was during the fight between the pirates and
then loofy Usop and you know his crew were I
I think for a little bit, there was a part
where Zoro was not even part of the fight and
he was like so mad at Lufy. He was on
the ground like I'm gonna kill you up, and I
just I love how like he's a really big idiot,
but he's also like really strong.
Speaker 3: Thing about Zoro in the early arcs is they always
have to figure out a way to handicap him, so
he's not like in this one, he's like trying to
get up the cliff, I remember, and he kept like
shipping on the oil that Usop was laying out, and
it's just like, yeah, unless we nerve Zoro, he's gonna
be too powerful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's the he's a pirate hunter. All the
pirates fear him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If he was part of the fight, it would be
over in like one episode probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You can't have Loofy and Zorro both there fighting the
main guy. So they always have to create like a
side distraction for Zoro to fight, or some type of
injury or something to nerve him to make the fight
a little bit more even since like he'd be fighting
like the second or third in command or something, and
you see it. I think in Orangetown he gets stabbed
by Buggy and then he constantly gets injured and injured
and injured and everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because at that point they're not aware of Buggy's powers, right,
so he tricks them.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So Zoro thinks like, I'm just gonna hack
him up and then I'll call it a day, and
then Buggy stabs him and then he's like, I need
to sleep this off for a few hours.
Speaker 1: You guys fight without me Teching, I have a question
for you actually, because so so for Presidon, Zorro was
is her favorite at this point, For me it was
Zora as well. For Animac, he was like unomy a lot.
How about you at this point of the story, do
you remember who your favorite was?
Speaker 3: So I remember watching the Four Kids dub of this,
and I remember Sonji was my favorite. But we're not
up to Sanji yet, so I would probably say at
this point, I actually probably would just go with loofy
lufy like at this phase of the story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, yeah, I'm I'm a hard Nami Stan at
this point. Like I by the way, I can't believe
you said Sidon that Zora's best boy when Buggy's right there.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Adam Mac, you've come so far. You were
literally pulling at us at this point in the story.
Poseidon Adam Mac was like a buggy, just a throw
throwaway villain.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's true. Buggy's Buggy is like very cringe
at that point. He's kind of like a comedic relief villain. No,
but I do think that Nami at this point, like
you know, her introduction is hilarious. She robs the pirates
and tricks them. Then she calls Loofy her boss, to
get them off her back, and after him, you know,
she steals the map of the Grand Line and she's
I just yeah, I really I really like her personality.
And I also like that she's so practical, right, Like
she she's not over the top, she's not silly and
stupid and doesn't take stupid risks.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: She joins forces with the guys because they have a
common goal at the time, but she doesn't think of
herself as a pirate. She doesn't like pirates because obviously
pirates have a bad reputation. You know. She does her
own things sort of, and she's very like calculating and
smart and practical, and yeah, I really related for yeah, yeah,
I really related to that. They're much more than Loufi
and Zoro, because to me, they were hard to relate
to because they just, you know, they're so over the
top and they just do such dangerous, insane things, which
is kind of the point of their character. But like me,
I'm always you know, I like to think of myself
as as more what's.
Speaker 1: That word bring machiavellian?
Speaker 4: Yes, to me, like Nami at this point was really
speaking to me. And I think if Nami got more
focused later on, I think I would still you know,
she would still be my favorite. It's just that obviously
later on there's very important involved. But I do think
that Nam at this point is my most relatable and
most interesting to me. But obviously not the strongest physically,
and you know, she's not going to be the main
fighter in battles, but I love were you.
Speaker 1: All right, let's start off with Orange. Sorry, what would
you say?
Speaker 2: I was gonna about to say, like she she has
like the brains over the bronze.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, that's the idea.
Speaker 4: Really, No, I'd like to think I have both, but
I still relate to her more.
Speaker 3: A very a very initial concept for the crew. It's
like you got the strong guys, and then you have Usap,
who's sort of at the beginning is the comic relief,
and then I mean still is, but then then you
have Nomi, who's, like, no, she's the brains the operation.
If they didn't find Nomi early on, they would have
been probably screwed.
Speaker 4: At least Lufy's smart enough to know that he needs
a navigator.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a big thing about a musician. Yes, and
a musician, but he knows he's like, I mean, he
doesn't say he's stupid, but he's like, I don't know
how to do these things. I need to find people
that can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I respect it anyway, Poseidon, you got you got
introduced to a to a new character. How do you feel?
Speaker 2: I honestly, God, sir Village. I cried a lot at
the end. Really, I like actually felt the tears, and
I was like, oh no. At first, I was like,
just to give context to teching here. I did watch
the live action a year Friar watching starting One Piece,
so I had a small I don't I don't want
to say like a big idea is so like a
little small idea of like who the characters are like
via their live action counterparts. I really enjoyed Oosop in
the live action, yes, so from the start. I really
liked him from the start. But in the anime, I
don't know. He came off a little bit to me
as like annoying, But as the arc went on and
you start to see that, you know he's he lies
a lot, but it's also his way of coping with
you know, loss and his family, and he uses it
to kind of, you know, make kaya feel better about
you know, being bedridden all day because she doesn't get
much to do, right, so he moves we're there to
entertain her, to keep her happy and keep.
Speaker 3: Her you know, her spirits up and all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I started to love him even more, and I
would even argue by the end of the this arc,
Ussaw probably came second place for me as like favorite character.
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, yeah, awesome.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed him by the end. I was actually
really surprised because at the beginning, I was like, oh
my god, he's kind of annoying.
Speaker 3: He's he's supposed to be, you know, the comic, the
comedic relief here, but he's also supposed to be like
the everyman like Zorro and Loofy have like larger than
life personalities. No, he's very practical and the Nusap's just
supposed to be like a dude that like they run
into and it's just like, oh, yeah, okay, but he
has a good heart, and yeah, he could be a
little annoying here.
Speaker 1: But that is one nice thing about one Piece. You
do get a big variety of type of characters that
the crew slash on the crew that are like you
get to see different perspectives, Like they go on this
over the top journey that's super dangerous, and you have
someone trying to become the strongest swordsman, but he's like
crazy strong. Lufy's already crazy so strong. And then you
have someone who's like a normal girl, but he's like
smart and strategic and she's a navigator. That's how she
provides value and she has a goal as well that
we'll eventually get into. But then you have Uslap, who's
genuinely just like a normal dude, but then like it's
entrolled into these situations and has to figure out a
way to like become the brave war year he wants
to be. And it's just like so much more relatable,
and he adds the comedic relief. So I think it's
good that not everyone just like a beast or just
not everyone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wants to be, like I want to be
like my dad, I want to go out to see
I want to be a great pirate. But then it's
like he's actually doing that and he's like, oh, this
is okay, this is like really dangerous, but this is
what I wanted to do, So this is what we're doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like imagine just being you or just being yeah,
and then like you're fighting you in fucking monkey de
Loofy stretching his arms or with three swords.
Speaker 3: Not even like not even like Loofy or Zorro level.
Just imagine being like the way you are now, and
like a group of bandits attack your town or your
house or something, and it's like, oh, okay, I guess
I'm gonna try to fight back, but like what, yes.
Speaker 1: I'm dead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think I get where Pasidon is coming
from because there are differences between the live action and
the anime. I did think in like obviously I read
the manga, but I did think in the manga early on,
USA was annoying. He's like the boy who cried Wolf, right.
Speaker 3: That's the character.
Speaker 4: And I'm I'm just like, bro, you're gonna you're screwing
yourself by doing this. It was frustrating, but yeah, it's
part of like the charm and the introduction. There were
differences in the Netflix adaptation where him and Kayak kiss
in the Netflix one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just made it like and it's super obvious
in the anime and the mang get that there's a
there's a spark there, and at the end of their
live action they're just like, just have them kiss.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like each other.
Speaker 4: I like that because it kind of it's like like
stop beating around the bush. I liked that aspect of
the of the one piece of the live action. And
then also Mary's faith is different in the live action
versus the anime, which is what I was getting out
in the pre podcast discussion.
Speaker 1: Since we have teching here, Yeah, is Mary humid or
like you may so?
Speaker 3: Uh you know what I mean. For a long time,
we just assumed that he just had that interesting hairstyle
and horns and stuff. But now he might be half
mink or a quarter mink. Who knows?
Speaker 1: You have a human looking face, Like I just don't know.
I know, we kind of despoiled a little bit for poseidon.
I'm so sorry, but you could tell that, that's right,
damn it. No, But I did ask because I always
just assume, like once you get to see like later
on in the series and as you watch them, it's like,
I assume you wasn't human.
Speaker 3: If you could, I mean like, yeah, no, definitely could
be the case now retroactively, I don't think that'd be
a problem. One thing else so they change in the
live action. That I really like though, is they show
it that like Syrup Village has like a ship building
yard and ustop like works there as like the guy
that scrapes the barnacles off the ships or whatever, And
I'm like, okay, that makes sense for when the Mary
actually when Mary introduces the going Mary, like did Mary
build this thing by himself? Like where did he do that?
And it's like, Okay, this makes more sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Posidon, I think we should start off with Orangetown
though we kind of just clossed over. Yes, sorry, we
just get excited.
Speaker 3: So when I'm here that usually happens.
Speaker 1: Starting off with Orangetown. I remember you wrote you read
or watched a little bit ahead. Last time you were
talking about how Shoesho the dog was making you cry
and those moments were so great. Do you have any
any thoughts and things you want to talk about for Orangetown?
Speaker 2: So again, I'm gonna go back with like the live
action just a little bit. I feel like if I
didn't watch the live action at this point in this
series with like Buggy and everything. I think I would
have had like a similar thought of, like, ah, okay,
Buggy's just like a throwaway villain. He's probably just there
to be here for a few episodes, Like he's just
a goofy guy who I will not take seriously. But
you know, because I know what goes on in the
line of action, I'm like, Okay, no, Buggy's gonna probably
be very, very important going forward. But honestly, it was
a lot of fun. I like, I kind of even
almost wish there was more to Orange Town than just
like one fight and like a little bit of interaction,
because I wanted to see more of Buggy and his
crew because I think they're really silly. But I'm assuming
going forward there is going to be like a big
Buggy storyline going on. I don't know. I don't know,
but I really enjoyed Orange Town. I think it was
cool to it showcased a lot.
Speaker 3: Of not me because I think at this point that's
for introduction much she shows up earlier in the anime.
Speaker 1: Yeah in the anime, yeah, you get to see her
a little bit right in the manga Orangetown is actually
like introduction.
Speaker 3: In the anime. She's Oh, she's in the first episode
in the anime.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah she is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but you get to you get to learn
who she is and like talk to her and like whatever.
Speaker 3: It's a pretty quick yeah introduction to Nami.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can see how like clever she is. She
kind of manipulates the crew a little bit, and I
feel like that was when Loofy kind of got to
see what her skill set is and it's like, I
need her on this crew. But at this point, she's like, no,
I hate pirates. Pirates like destroyed my family. I don't
really want to I don't want to be part of
her crew, but I guess I might tag along with
you because I don't have a choice right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I get the impression she's done this before,
just to manipulate Pirates out of gold and then she
skips out. I mean that's her whole thing.
Speaker 4: If you if you were to put Roles in this
early stuff with us, not beside him, because beside him
you're new. Yeah, you're the new guys. So but clearly
Loofy would be teching, yeah okay, orro would be Briggs
who Saw would be Knocks, and I would be Nami
exceptis hotter.
Speaker 3: There you go, except nomis. Yeah, I don't know if
you have the boobs for it, but like, okay, I
don't know.
Speaker 2: Man. I think at this.
Speaker 1: Point, I think I navigate this conversation pretty well.
Speaker 4: Oh please Briggs.
Speaker 2: So are you saying you should be not?
Speaker 1: I think I should be. Noam Okay, they all just
wanted to be an orange hair girl.
Speaker 2: So Mac is a zoro now I wish.
Speaker 1: Now Mac is curl.
Speaker 2: Wait I can kind of see that.
Speaker 3: Actually wait, yeah, I'm just saying out of a cosplay contest.
If we're all cosplaying Currow, I'm gonna say ana Mac
has the best option of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess I could cosplay the live action Kudro.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, dude, the live action Currow. I forget the
name of his actor, but he did an amazing job.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's something that was gonna I feel like the
kudo rep in my mind grew because of the live
act Yeah. Probably because I thought, yeah, the Kudro from
like the manga, I was like, this guy's so may
but then the live action guy did kind of kill it,
and then he also literally killed it, like with the
one scene, So I thought he was more badass.
Speaker 3: My My favorite thing about Crow overall though, is it's
so obvious he's evil and like usop and even like
it's like, I know you're evil, but like like you,
we can't really just fight you right away, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say it's more obvious in the live action.
Speaker 3: In action, it's very obviously he's evil. But like even
looking at him, it's just like the dude, the way
he walks, in the way he's like, hes slick back hair,
I mean, come.
Speaker 4: On now, Yeah, he's looks like he's rich in fancy
obvious evil.
Speaker 1: He is an Italian looking butler.
Speaker 3: Okay, now with the glasses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually think because I'm not a big fantasy
or village. The next arc, which is the arc that
Sidon is going to be watching for the next time, uh,
is the one that actually gets me into one piece
at during my journey. So at this point I'm like, oh,
it's a pretty good show.
Speaker 3: I kind of like it. It is a pretty good
arc that happens after sir Village. Of course, you're referring
to the Island of Rare Animals with Guymon. Yes, just
a lot of our souls.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the one I'm referring to.
Speaker 2: Yes, am I gonna cry a lot in this one.
Speaker 3: Oh, definitely the actual In the anime, yes, they do,
but they move it around. In the manga, it's between
Orangetown and Syrup Village, like Oosop's not there in the manga.
In the anime it's after Syrup Village.
Speaker 4: I know, because I know from the manga how it is,
but I don't know.
Speaker 1: We're we're trolling. It's not the guymon whatever he's talking
about the next arc that I'm going to give you
the episodes for. I think we'll make you cry.
Speaker 3: It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: But you already try cry the village and Shoe Shoe
at Orangetown.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Shoe Shoe story is so sad because it's
just Hatchiko. And I remember crying at that movie Hachiko. Yeah,
I didn't realize that it is just it's Hachiko. Well
that's a very popular like story in Japan.
Speaker 1: And Hachiko is a Japanese dog, right, Yeah, he's a shiah.
Speaker 2: This is the one where he's like waiting at the train.
Speaker 3: He waits at the Shibuya station and there's a statue
of him and he waits like seven or eight years
and his master never comes home.
Speaker 1: So there is something I want to point out for
Poseidon since it's her first watch, and I'm sure she's
picked up on some of it, but it's just like
I think going forward to give her some perspective to
think about for future arcs and future watches. So it's
it's not as noticeable right away, but every arc is
slightly connected here where it's like you meet axe Hen Morgan,
he got his position and promotion by capturing and executing Kurrow,
which connects it to the the Here Village arc. Right
then you have Loofy's backstory with Shanks meeting Buggy, but
he references like Shanks, and you get the backstory that
they know each other, and you get to meet his crew,
which is maybe whatever. I'm not gonna get into it,
but there's just little connections from arc to arc and
like from character to character.
Speaker 3: That I want you to They do a really good
job of that in the end and in the live
action in a way that I didn't think they would.
Like there's a scene where Morgan's is like I defeated
you know, Currow of a thousand plans, and it's like, oh,
they actually reference that. There's even a little scar on
Morgan's arm from where Currow cut him, and I'm like, oh,
that's a really neat little touch. I like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So basically what Kuro did with is he faked
his own death because he was really really committed to
getting Kaya's parents treasure.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, that was even before that. Currow's
plan is fucking stupid. Like it is like he's supposed
to be a brilliant guy, but like he was tired
of being a pirate. So he's like, I don't want
to be a pirate anymore. I'm gonna fake my death
and I'm gonna go and live a normal life. So
he starts living a normal life and he's like this
is boring. I don't like this. I'm gonna try to
steal Kaya's money. Apparently he had. He did not actually
kill her parents. That was something in the live action
that wasn't really referenced in the magaly. They just died
of natural causes. But I don't know, dude, I thought.
Speaker 4: His whole plan was to get the treasure.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: His plan was too was to kill Kaya and take
the money. But I feel like the plan was convoluted
and didn't really need to be. I feel like he
could have just stolen Kaya's money and just skipped town.
Like he probably he didn't.
Speaker 1: Want to be a criminal. The whole things, he wanted
to do it legally.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to be a pirate, he didn't want
to live a normal life, and he didn't want to
be a criminal.
Speaker 1: So the whole thing was I think like after him
escaping the life of a pirate, the parents did die naturally,
and then he came up with the plan to like
legally through will get passed down all of the money
from KaiA because he didn't want to return to the
life of being a pirate or a criminal. He's wanted
the money without that currow.
Speaker 3: If that plan would have worked and Curro would have
gotten the money, he probably would have bought a mansion,
and then he would have been like bored with that
after the right year, he would have probably come up
with another, like weird plan, like he was just never happy.
Speaker 1: I think I liked Orangetown and Sert Village slightly more
in the live action, which is crazy, which I I
can't say about the next two.
Speaker 3: Arcs, but you know, I think it works partially because,
like these arcs are not huge, So like all of
Orangetown takes place in the circus tent in the live action,
which is fine, and then all of Serial Villages move
mainly to the mansion, which the mansion set in the
live action was beautiful, So those I think worked perfect.
Now when the start, when the sets start getting really
big and more elaborate, because one piece gets bigger and bigger,
that's going to be interesting to see how season two
is gonna go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you already see issues with Arlong Park.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Arlong Park was probably the weakest set out
of all of them. I like the idea that they
actually changed them to like like like attractions, but I
think they could have utilized them a little better.
Speaker 1: It's just like rushing at the end of the day,
I think rushing Orangetown.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was definitely rushed. And then also the changes
with certain characters showing up that don't in the anime,
but I won't be specific for Poseidons, I don't really.
Speaker 1: Care about the changes too much. For me, it's just
like it being very fast paced worked for Sert Village
and Orangetown. I think it enhanced it, but just keeping
that pace for longer arcs like Baratier and Arlon Park.
I think it just didn't work as well. It was
still good, it was still fine. It's just not as
good as the anime. I'm in my opinion. Anyway, Let's
let's get back to Poseidon's journey or it gets sidetracked
very easily.
Speaker 2: You're good, you're fine.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, and you find out we are ahead.
Speaker 2: Talking about it. I think I did prefer Surrup Village
a little more in the live action. I really like
we're talking about set straight because if you think, like
if you watch back to the anime, it only really
mainly take place at like the shore. Yeah, so you
didn't really get to see much Shaner, you didn't really
get to see much of the town. You didn't really
get to see really much like at all action.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, you have a big mansion right here as a
set piece. I like that would have made more sense
if it all took place in the mansion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they like utilize like the different rooms, the
empty rooms, because you know, it's just Kaya living there.
Speaker 3: With her with Mayor and with Mary and Crow and
that's it.
Speaker 2: Heuro and the wine, the wine cellars and stuff like that,
Like I really really enjoyed. Like, if I were to
pick a favorite part of the live action, it would
have been the Syrup Village part. Oh easily, easily, Like
that was my favorite part. So going into the live action,
I had a little bit of an expectation. I'm like, Oh,
it's gonna be a little similar, right, It wasn't.
Speaker 3: No, you've been going.
Speaker 1: You've been going into the anime, going into the anime.
Speaker 3: Going to the anime.
Speaker 2: Sorry back. It was like a slight disappointment. I didn't
mind it, but I really did like that they did
change that in the live action to be I think
more interesting. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it applied to even for Orangetown. For me,
like I liked the Orangetown probably the most in the
live action. I think Buggy's character, why I already love
him in the anime and manga. I actually really liked
him in the live action, specifically for Orange Town. Oh yeah,
he just the actor killed it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I thought in the live action usop is
like he still has the same vibes of USA, but
I think he's a little bit more badass than Mango Uso.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's so.
Speaker 4: I did. I did get that vibe, and I mean
Zoro is pretty much the same level of but ass.
Speaker 2: Three.
Speaker 4: Loofy is great. He's great too.
Speaker 3: A lot of the live action stuff is like a
lot of the comedy wouldn't work the same way in
live action. Like if Usap like freaks out the level
that he does in the manga, which is funny, in
live action, it would just kind of come off as
really like weird and off putting. I think like if
every single time something came in front of him, Usop
is like and then like runs away, you know, like, Okay,
we can't do that every single time.
Speaker 4: With him, you know.
Speaker 1: Idon, What is your what is your favorite fight in
the series so far?
Speaker 2: Favorite fight? Oh, it would have to be Okay, I'm
torn between Lufy Veru's Buggy and then Lufy versus Crom.
I really liked Lufy versus Crow because you kind of
get to see Loofy at his like almost like mad,
Like the most angry is he yea, because you see
Caro killing off his crew like it's nothing, and that
hurts Lufy because it's like, no, these these are your friends,
these are the people who got you here.
Speaker 3: Why are you whim?
Speaker 2: So you see him get so angry and you see
Crow doing his like this little speed attack where you
can't even see him, but because Loofy is locked in
ready to go, you see him at his most like powerful,
which I thought was really cool. That was probably my
favorite even part of this short village arc was that
fight between Loofy and Crow.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not a huge fantasy or village overall,
but I think one thing that helped was the actual combat.
Like towards the end, Curl versus Loofy looked cool because
Curl is like he was like you can't can barely
see him with his footwork. He goes into that mode
and then you have Loofy like losing his minding, like
going full out.
Speaker 3: I think it was actually also really showcases like Loofy
has weaknesses, he can be he's very susceptible to being hypnotized.
He's a very straight, straight minded kind of individual. It's true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's almost it's almost like very different to
the fight with Buggy because that one is a lot
more humorous, Like when because he ripped his hat, but
like when Lufy hits him in the nuts. So it's
a very different vibe, but it's still good. Like the
humor is good in the buggy fight, but it's a
different vibe.
Speaker 2: From the qu Oh yeah, oh there was another thing
I wanted to talk about with like shirt Village. I
honestly loved the fight between I forgot he's like the
co captain's name, but between him and the kids Django,
there we go and the three kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they weren't the live action. The live action didn't
have onion.
Speaker 3: Dude. I was actually happy they made that change because
like they're just like there and it's like all right,
little kids, they're gonna like fight, all right, cool?
Speaker 1: Great, But it creates like cool moments as well, because
you have the movement moment where like usop like lives
to them so that they don't join the fight children
and ready to stand up for the village. And and
kias I like that.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. It's a very nostalgic thing for
because like it brings you back to like when you
were a little kid playing with your friends in like
the neighborhood of like remember like, oh, we're pirates, or
we're you know, uh, you know, medieval nights or whatever
like that, and that's kind of the vibe there. But
I think it's fine that they excluded them from the
live action.
Speaker 2: I don't I think they would have worked better in
anime versus live action. So it means, yeah, and I
feel like in the live action it might have been
a little bit.
Speaker 3: Irritating, especially since you're you're condensing everything to the mansion,
not like running around the woods or anything like that.
And so yeah, you gotta kind of like get everybody together.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day. They have to streamline
it for sure. I just I do like little little
interactions with USAP and those kids. And also I just
want to I want to point out as well, so
this is Posidon's first time watching, but upon Rewatch and rewatch,
there's little things that like I like, I pick up
that I like, I really appreciate, just noticing like Nami
was there, when Lufy like references that like this is
his treasure multiple times referring to his hat, or even
just like seeing Shanks and Buggy on the same ship
and seeing some of the crewmates there. Like upon rewatch,
it's really interesting and the lore you pick up and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3: Oda. There's a lot of stuff in this story you
could reference that, Like Oda had it planned from the
very very start, and it's very obvious. Other stuff maybe
like oh came a little bit later, but yeah, there,
he definitely had a plan for the long game this one.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for Poseidon to like read an arc like, yeah,
five hundred episodes from now, and I'm gonna be like,
remember that time in Orangetown, Remember that time in Serrat Village, Remember.
Speaker 3: That flashback that Buggy had in chapter nineteen with that
guy there you.
Speaker 1: Go, Or even like there's a lot of like cool
moments where it's like there was the flashback, or at
least in the anime, Lufy has the flashback of Romance
Dawn right where he you know, you have the Shanks
moment and all that stuff, and he repeats those lines
to usop. I think even the small things like that
are just so cool, and it almost ahead, Yeah, it
almost implies that, like he told Zoro that story, like
his backstory, because Zoro knew what he was talking about.
What do you think, Teking, do you agree that like
you think like Lufy told Zora his backstory.
Speaker 3: I so that's a question that comes up. I'm sure
they all know, but like that's one thing about one piece.
I always wish that we got to see a little
bit more interaction with the straw hats, like on the ships,
just just talking about like that was.
Speaker 4: A thing we just did, you know, behind the scenes stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be nice, But we can assume that, like, yeah,
like when USAP joined, they kind of brought him up
to speed on like yeah, yeah, we fought against this
guy named Morgan, and then we went to Orangetown and
fought this clown guy and then it's just like everything
gets brought up like that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you almost assume that they're just chatting and talking
it up during their travels because like guns aren't for
threats right there, for actions like lufy Y and Zoro
kind of know that right or later did the scene
in another arc?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean it makes sense right that it's
not like they're just sleeping whenever they're not on screen.
So yeah, yeah, and sometimes there's skips in time.
Speaker 3: I'm sure USAP has a question or two like Okay,
how did you guys come together? Where did you all
come from? You know, like, what's your stories?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: Sorry, and you brought up the kids and Django. Also,
Django was Djangle in the live action No, he wasn't
Michael go Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3: That was an unfortunate loss. I feel like sad that
Django wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Yea, Djangle is Michael Jackson and oosof Pinocchio.
Speaker 3: Yep, like.
Speaker 1: Early one piece, like with the references are not subtle
at all.
Speaker 3: It's fair, No, it isn't.
Speaker 2: Are they actually based off of those?
Speaker 3: Oh, Django is one hundred percent. He's based off of Michael.
Speaker 1: Jacksons and then they they gave the liar the long nose.
Speaker 2: Yes see, I think I would have picked that one
up easy.
Speaker 3: Pinocchio one is kind of on the nose. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm like now that I'm thinking about it, Okay.
Django being Michael Jackson makes sense.
Speaker 3: He has the outfit, he has the glove, he moon
walks around, the moon walks backwards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, backwards.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's this is from the nineties, so back
then Michael Jackson was.
Speaker 3: Like so huge before it was yeah mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Going back to the kids, I felt really emot that
was one of the parts where I was like getting
really really emotional during servillage was when the kids, uh
who was basically telling the kids like it's I'm leaving now,
like you guys, are you know in charge or whatever.
And it reminded me a lot of me when I
was a child, because I did a lot of those
like oh, I'm I'm I'm a I wouldn't say pirate,
but like I'm a mermaid or something, and like really
going around and bringing all the neighborhood kids and playing
around and stuff. So seeing those kids like kind of
have that kind of youthfulness made me feel nostalgic for
like my own life experiences, which is why I really
enjoyed them in this arc. I can see why people
other people don't though, but I thought they were awesome
and they were also really smart too.
Speaker 3: They were yeah out smart Jako then or Jaco might
have just been really stupid one of the way. Yeah,
but uh yeah, that's like I think what that's what
Odo was going for, like the nostalgia factor, because like
everybody has stories like that of like playing with their
friends like on a Summer's Nights pack and you were
like and then you know, whenever you were growing up,
and Odo was like, I'm gonna try to like encapsulate
that with this character in a boosap.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping I don't spoil if this is I really
hope that we get to see those kids like in
the future, all grown up. I feel like that would
be really really cute.
Speaker 1: Onion for Pirate King, I think he's gonna come back.
Speaker 3: Onion's gonna sweep in and he's gonna become Pirate King.
Speaker 2: Yeah. New spin off series Onion is now with.
Speaker 1: Pirate Next week we're covering I guess I could say
the arc. He already watched the live action. We're covering
the Barratier arc, and there is a lot of differences.
So I'm excited to hear your opinion on the Barti arc.
I can maybe not next week, or maybe we'll do
the new week after. We'll kind of let everyone know,
depending how many episodes it is, because I don't want
to force too many episodes in a week on Poseidon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Barazier is so that the arcs are getting longer. Now, Uh,
you know, let me look it up. Sorry, guys, Yeah,
I'll look it up really quick. Here is twelve episodes.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's not too bad.
Speaker 1: That's not too bad. So I think we're gonna we're
gonna break it up into one episode just on Barratier
and then one episode just on our long Park. For
the most part, if.
Speaker 3: You're comferable, they're about twelve and fourteen for our long
So that's okay, that's not too bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's that's good because they're both important dark,
very important.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and.
Speaker 1: These are the arcs then, yeah, and these are the
arcs that got me into one piece.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, was the one that's my favorite straw hat
at the beginning of the story.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but fourth Briggs four Next week, though, do you
want to do the the latest chapters or do you
wanna do this again? Or do you do every two weeks?
Speaker 2: So what we can do is two weeks works best
for me personally, sweet, So.
Speaker 1: Next week we'll do the normal one piece version of
the newest chapters. So that is the first of October,
and then the eighth of October, if I'm looking at
this correctly, would be the week with Poseidon, the one
piece version covering Broughte.
Speaker 4: That work for everyone, Yeah, yeah, it should, it should
because we have a few chapters not to talk about
in the manga. Cool and obviously a lot of stuff
is happening in the latest chapter in the manga, so
I'm looking forward to talking about that. And then uh
part is like a great, great little package to talk
about in a episode as well. Yes, reliving all of
that fun times. I will say again, you know I
said this before when I first read this, I'm still
pissed the Loofy didn't take the treasure. It's way too
way too goody Goody.
Speaker 1: In Orangetown didn't take the treasure in Orangetown. He's just
he's just too nice of a guy, man, How do
you feel about that side?
Speaker 4: Because he's supposed to be a pirate, he's supposed to
be funding his journey.
Speaker 3: So I can tell you go ahead, Poseidon and I'll
bring something up.
Speaker 2: I think at this point, right Luf, he isn't very
interested in treasure. He's more interested and let me just
get a crew together and we're going to find the
one piece. So he's not the typical pirate where it's
a treasure treasure of treasure, money, money, money. I think
at this point he's more focused on getting a crew
together and trying to figure out a way to find
the one Piece.
Speaker 4: Again, this is why why Nami's more relatable to me,
because it's like, you need money to fund to recruit,
and funds not smart enough.
Speaker 2: To get that nosioning.
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole reason he became a pirate is
for like freedom, adventure fun. He told Shanks he wants
to become the pirate king, right like, it has nothing
to do with like riches or being like his goals
aren't evolved around so money.
Speaker 3: But you're right he probably this is probably because this
is early One Piece is the dregs of this. I
would have went through a lot of like concepts before
actually starting proper One Piece, And in one of those
proto chapters there was the idea that there's two different
kinds of pirates. There's the piece main pirates and the
morganeer pirates. This didn't end up getting into the actual story.
That's not like terms that are used, but basically it's
like there's the pirates that murder and plunder and seek treasure,
and then there's the pirates that are just there for
the adventure of it all. And Lufy's definitely in that category.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there is there is some of that with
Nami's perception of pirates, yeah versus.
Speaker 3: It is basically trying to make it like there's good pirates,
that there's evil pirates. There you go.
Speaker 1: But he had it more like in his in his plans,
he had it more black and white.
Speaker 3: And yeah, he had it like there's two different distinct types,
and he decided just to go, no, pirates are pirates,
but like there's different kinds.
Speaker 1: Different types of people in the world.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I like that he didn't have to tell the audience
and lets us like see the nuance ourselves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can do that ourselves. We could tell what
kind of pirate Buggy is, and we could tell what
kind of pirate Loofy is, right, Yeah, and Buggy is
the better one. Yeah, they're clearly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you're excited to see more Buggy in the future, Posidon,
And I'm trying to Yeah, I think, are there any
predictions you have anything that you're excited excited for? I am.
Speaker 2: That was my biggest prediction was like, there's no way
that this is the last for seeing of Buggy, Like
I I don't think he got to showcase all of
his like his full strength and abilities. So I'm really
looking forward to seeing potentially a big Loofy versus Buggy
fight where both of their devil fruit powers are like
at the max and they're I really am excited because
I really do like the concept of buggies double fruit
powers where he can detach himself and kind of just
kind of go all over the place. So that'll be
a lot of fun. I'm really I'm really looking forward
to watch this next arc.
Speaker 4: It's a funny thing because Loofy is strong, like he
has a devil food he's you know, he trained for years.
He's strong, and yet he's also in these early like
stages lucky to be alive because he's.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, sometimes there's a couple of times where he
could have died, like straight up, like even though.
Speaker 4: He's overpowered, he's also lucky just to be alive because
he he he can be very careless and dumb sometimes
like not stupid, but just careless because he's smart about
how he fights it stuff. So again, he's not just
like a idiot character, but he's just so like reckless.
Speaker 1: Do you have any favorite like funny moments right now?
Besides anything that stands out, there's a lot of small
humor in one piece throughout like the action and adventure.
Speaker 2: Funny moments. M hmmm, I don't know if this is funny.
It was more like ah. At the end of the
short village arc, I thought it was funny when all
the families that live there, all the villagers are like,
where's oosup? Why isn't he yelling about pirates?
Speaker 3: Why isn't he.
Speaker 2: And you see like the little kid with his family
in there, he's like, where is this where isp.
Speaker 1: Some of the older the dads look forward to chasing
him down the street. They're getting there.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: If I was living in Sir Village and every single
day it sawp woke us up yelling pirates and there
were no pirates the day that he is gone, I
would actually legitimately think pirates are actually attacking today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was That was also one of the
parts where I was laughing, but also like feeling like
like shedding a tear because these villagers were so accustomed
it was almost like a comfort thing for them. You know,
now they're going to have to deal with them not
being there and going on a huge journey. So I
thought that was really like funny and also cut his head.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite gags is like, this is the
boys getting lost. If I remember correctly, I remember exactly
what they're like. What they were saying was like the
oldest like trying to run around the island or something
I can't remember it, or like or someone was trying
to go north because it's colder. Like that stupidity I
find so funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought there were a lot of like buggy
stuff funny, like in the buggy fight, like the rubbing
technique and beaten by a mussur. That was funny.
Speaker 3: I like Cabagi with the lion. He was funny.
Speaker 4: Also, men pretend to be unconscious, So yeah, I'm not
I'm not dealing with this. A lot a lot of
buggy stuff I thought was teching.
Speaker 1: Dude, what happens to that lion man? He looks so
huge and ferocious right now?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's around richieche I know, but.
Speaker 1: He looks so huge and ferocious, and honestly, you get
to see how strong Luofy really is with that fucking like.
I don't know what that attack he did against him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's the pinwheel where he uh yeah,
spins him around. I think Richie changes size because in
the anime, they make him seem like like building sized
when he's really just like the size of a regular lion,
So that might just be a thing. Yeah, but uh
yeah he's I don't think he's that big. The later
times we see.
Speaker 1: Him they had the problem.
Speaker 3: I guess maybe yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite funny moments from Orange Town was
when Buggy's crew figures out that Loofy has devil fruit powers.
So they're all just pretending to be like dead. They're
like on the ground, don't do he has double fruit powers.
We don't want to mess with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2: I thought that was funny. They were all so so
terrified because.
Speaker 4: Buggy and his crew kind of like fit each other well.
I think the whole goofiness.
Speaker 3: I also love in the live action with Richie, they're like,
where is the talking lion? And it's like, we couldn't
get a talking lion. It's like, oh that's funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a little bit out of our budget, guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah we can't get the talking Sorry.
Speaker 2: I thought it was like that. That was funny because
I feel like at that point, his Buggy's crew has
only really seen Buggy have the double fruit powers, right, Yo,
seeing another person who has devil fruit powers that is
not like buggies. They have no idea how strong he is.
They don't know his full capabilities. So I can imagine
them being like so horrified, like we know how strong
Buggy is. How strong is this dude? Yeah, we don't
want to we don't want to mess with him.
Speaker 1: I sometimes forget that at this point in the story,
and even for a little bit since you've watched the
live action, we don't really get to see many devil
Free users.
Speaker 3: Not in the East. And I like that because it's
established early on that like these are like mythical and
these are rare, and these are like not like they're
more legends in these parts of the world, you know.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I think that's a good place to wrap up
and on Tuesday, so you're always invited back, or you
can come back for Orangetown in six years.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will also say that again, I'm frustrated that
Loofy wears freaking flip flops.
Speaker 3: I don't know why you're upset about the flip flops.
Speaker 4: He's in these dangerous fights. He could get some boots
or something, but he's wearing freaking flip flops and he.
Speaker 3: Has loof he doesn't even wear any underwear. He's just
not probably not, Probably I can't imagine he would. Yeah,
probably does.
Speaker 1: Clearly Adam does not understand that the open toes breathing
is a symbolism of freedom, something that he really enjoys.
Speaker 4: Changing.
Speaker 3: Bro it is legitimately practical for his devil fruit ability
to like if he wanted to like stretch his toes
out for some reason, like he could do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I didn't think of that. Damn, damn you
teching you've thought of this.
Speaker 3: I thought of everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the fact that the toes are free from
for so many characters is the reason why one piece
is still ongoing and all the other anime have crumbled.
Speaker 3: We don't know the reason why it keeps going, but
we just it's working, so just keep it.
Speaker 1: How is it working?
Speaker 3: It's working.
Speaker 1: Anyway? Thank you? Yeah, pleasure, absolute pleasure, Poseidon, It's been
great going through this with you. I'm excited for Baratier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually now that you guys are hyping up
this next arc. Now I'm like, oh my god, now
I have to.
Speaker 3: Watch it, like get ready, get ready for the new character.
It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 4: She's gonna love the aquatic theme of the I will.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah coming up. Yeah, there's a few arts well,
and in a manga about pirates in the ocean, there's
quite a few aquatic theme darks.
Speaker 2: Actually, I will shay though my One Piece Journey. For
you guys who don't know, I'm mainly a TCG streamer
like I do content, so I have kind of started
kind of like side eyeing and looking at the one
piece tc yeah, and I have friends that are like
super into it, So now I'm just kind of like,
can you guys teach me how to play?
Speaker 3: Now? It's really easy. It's a fun game. I love
the art, Like you're gonna get the car, yeah, I mean,
you're gonna definitely get spoiled by characters whatever.
Speaker 1: But there's a couple of cards that are bad man
like they have full on like spoilers. Yeah.
Speaker 3: There is cards that have like literal manga panels of
stuff like oh yeah, like that is what it is.
Speaker 1: You have a character like getting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, now I have to I can't play
now until I finish one eleven.
Speaker 3: Incentive. That's how they get you. You want to play
this card game and not be spoiled. We'll watch the
show there you go.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was nice meeting you too.
Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun. I was.
Speaker 2: I've I've only done like. This is my third podcast
with Frank Cafe. Yes, and it's always really fun talking
with you guys, just like me with about anything. I'm
really excited to continue.
Speaker 3: Always happy to talk about one piece and have people
that are getting into one piece.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Animec always a pleasure, my friend for anime uproar.
Speaker 4: Yes, thank you Briggs, Thank you Briggs. It's from but
it's all right, Thank you guys. And uh looking forward
to the next episode.
Speaker 1: Do the ultrone.
Speaker 4: Oh now I have to do the outro. Now I
have to do it, Briggs.
Speaker 1: I remember I didn't.
Speaker 4: It's got to be streaming soon, I believe right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be streaming like the next hour.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah. Tweeted something about punishing you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm doing a Pokemon TG punishment stream. So game
I lose, I get punished, and then in order for
me to revert the punishment, I have to win two
games in a row.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'll be check that out Poseidon Mythos on
twitch right, Yeah, and check how to spell sidon because
it's it's not easy to spell that is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's one of those old fashioned Greek words,
you know.
Speaker 2: Yeahs spell my name all the time. They'll be like
S I E and the d os no fool And
I'm like, no, it's not how you spell it.
Speaker 4: Google it, google it first. But yeah, thank you Teching
Briggs pasionon and until next time, see you Space cowboys.