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Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season three,

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episode fifty six of Clips in Dip. I am Chuck Mockler,

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joined by Adam Osen and William Updyke. The Clippers are

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not the sixth seed as of this recording, which is

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incredibly frustrating, and we're going to talk about partly why

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that happened and recapping the loss to the Thunder as

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well as some standings talk. We're gonna talk the Clippers

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versus Nicks game, which has some question marks around it

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for both teams, one very large one in particular for

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the Clippers. Thank you for hanging out. If you're listening

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to us, we really do appreciate you. And if you're

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watching us, thank you. If you want to subscribe to

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the YouTube, check out YouTube dot com Slash at Clippers Podcast.

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Before we get into the loss too much, Adam, will

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I was gone last time we all threw a recorded.

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How are you fellas doing?

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Speaker 2: How are you gone last time? If we all three recorded, are.

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Speaker 1: You guys recorded? I think of us as one entity,

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so it's just, you know, it's kind of thrown off.

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How are you doing after the loss? Will Good?

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Speaker 2: My video says it all melting and just melting. I

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you know, like this this streak was going to come

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to an end. I liked how good they looked against Okay,

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see overall, you know, not not perfect. A couple of things,

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a couple of things, and they could have got this

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one in the bag. So I guess that one that

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does hurt. That hurts a lot.

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Speaker 1: It felt it was close holding them to one hundred

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and three points as obviously nice. Adam, you've done lengthy

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content on the loss since it happened. You rewatched the

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fourth quarter. We're going to talk about the James Harden

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injury and some other stuff like that. How are you

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feeling the day after the loss? Because I was pretty

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hot last night. I did a post game stream. I

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was a little fired up. I feel less fired up,

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but I think the ethos of my concerns still remain.

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Speaker 3: You know, like with Will glitching out there and looking

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like the predator, I gotta say that's top that narrat

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If if leeds, we can kill it, and well Norn

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Powell was unfortunately the one bleeding out there. I do

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feel like, you know, Sga went seven of twenty nine.

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It kind of leads me to think what I initially

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thought with this Okac team, the thing that scares me

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most is their defense. It's not SGA, it's not their offense.

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Oh that's great, he's the MVP. But the scariest thing

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is how good they can be defensively.

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Speaker 1: What was that the third quarter when they just kind

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of decided to play their top defensive style, Like it

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just the turnovers were early for the Clippers and then

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late as well. In between they did a good job,

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but like when they decided to just lock in on defense,

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it was like, oh shit, okay, this is why you're

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without check and j dub as well.

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Speaker 2: Did it look like the best defense versus the fourth

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best defense?

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Speaker 3: It did.

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Speaker 1: I think we saw a difference, and that's no disrespect

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to the Clippers, but you see the difference in what

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how OKAC plays in terms of aggression.

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Speaker 3: I thought the Clippers also were incredibly sloppy to start

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the second quarter. As good as oka See was, the

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Clippers were playing like it was still Memphis out there,

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or Charlotte or Cleveland even like no, okay See ramped

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up their defense to start the second quarter, and you

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have to be much more secure with the basketball at

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that point, and the Clippers were far too loose with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I uhed more behind the backs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need as many more of those as possible.

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The fifteen out run without with Shay on the bench,

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I was just like, that is a thing that makes

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winning the game difficult. Not to be too out of

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a take, but when that happened, I honestly I felt like,

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this isn't a They're not winning this game. Fifteen oh

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run without Shae, even with as good as the defense

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was on Shae, to your point at him, that was encouraging.

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You can't lose you. That can't happen to a team

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seriously trying to get the dub I guess.

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Speaker 3: Especially when you have Kawai on the court. They don't

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have Jdubb, they don't have Chet instead of Shay, they

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have Hartenstein out there, they had Wallace, they had not

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Andrew Wiggins brother Aaron Wiggins, who was really good and

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had some key moments on the fourth quarter too. But

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it's it is one thing like to lose those minutes

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to start the second quarter, but to give up a

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fifteen to ohero run without Shade while you have Kawhi,

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that is just catastrophic. They still could have won the game,

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but that's probably where they lost it.

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Speaker 2: Emblematic though, of the Clippers offense throughout the year.

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Speaker 3: I would say without James Harden out there, starting second

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quarters has been a problem all year long, even with Kai.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the second quarters, Yeah, we only and then when

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we started what was it the fourth where it was

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no shade to start the fourth Kawhi was on. We

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tied the game. We didn't. We weren't able to get

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a lead, We weren't able to do anything like that.

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We just we got the game back to even, which

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is another kind of disheartening, like well shit, okay, like

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let's get incredibly stressed and have to do with some

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missed calls. Not the whole reason the Clippers lost, but

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a contributing factor was the refing for part of the game.

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How do we feel about the late game execution? Some

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people were upset at Norm Pwell for that, I think

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second to last possession, not trying to find someone in

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the corner there. People were fired up. I don't know,

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you can't not have Norm out there, I guess.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think if he wasn't out there and they lost,

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they would have complained. And he was out there and

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missed a pretty good look at a three pointer in

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the last thirty seconds, Like yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like in a close game, though, it's it's really easy

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to like Monday quarterback or nitpick any like one little thing,

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but it's the summation of all those parts. Like they

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they didn't get it done, like they you know, they

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didn't get it done. And it's not any one play

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like Adams said, they didn't execute at the level they

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needed to.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: They certainly didn't take advantage of stretches where okay, see

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was down their best offensive player and up against the

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team that you know was already missing a key contributor.

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So you know, I'm not I'm I think that that

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is like, uh, it's it's tomato tomato to mean, like

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it doesn't really matter that. This to me wasn't a

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game where like, yes, it was very close, but it's

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not like one issue. I just feel like there's you know,

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it's it's kind of the prevailing things that we've we've

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seen kind of throughout the season. It just against a

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higher level opponent where we you know, we were nearly

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able to uh to still to still sneak one out.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this hard and fourth quarter turnovers have been

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an issue all season long, and he had three more

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and two of them were looking for Avitza Zubos the

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inbounds play and before that on a roll, and then

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Norman had a turnover looking for a Visa Zubos too,

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which it touched, Shay got a hand on it and

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then it went off the hand of Visa Zubots and out.

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this team late in the game. They still could have won,

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but they were all critical and you know, pretty unforced

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errors like Norm Powell was that was basically a Russell

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Westbrook like pass to Avitza Zubas on the lower block

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where you know he probably could have gone up with it,

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and then at the last minute he was like, I'm

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gonna pass it to a Visa Zubos and Sga was

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so quick with it he still got a handle on it.

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But yeah, it's it's frustrating to see the same type

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of mistakes Harden was playing hurt. We found that out

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afterwards where it wasn't just as hip and we'll talk

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more about this obviously, but it's still it just has

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to be better decision making against a team of that caliber,

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Like you can't make the same passes you just did

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a Friday night against Memphis against Oka.

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Speaker 1: See the other thing too, if you kind of want

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to look at like, you know, if people are looking

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for one reason why the game was lost, I mean,

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look at the three point shooting. They made eight three

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pointers the whole game. Like that's also a pretty big

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contributing factor there.

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Speaker 2: For this team to still be able to stay in

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de I mean, and that's the market. Keep again keeping

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the score low, it certainly helps.

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Speaker 3: But there were times in this.

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Speaker 2: Game where they like I thought they were playing too

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out of control. They were playing at a pace that

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we haven't seen them like consistently or effectively play out

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all season and long. And yeah, I mean Brian Stephen

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comments on it, like it turned into a track meet

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during stretches of this game, and it was just like

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how are like, how are you not cognizant of Like

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that's not really a style that behooves this team, especially

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against the best defense in the NBA. So that you

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know there's some decision making things there as well.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this though, it's like, well, a low

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scoring track meet then like they only had ten turnovers

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entering the fourth like they had they averaged twenty two

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against okay See. The first three games they were taking

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care of the basketball, but then they had some really

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bad turnovers in the fourth quarter, like, and their offense

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lost from this game. Their defense is fabulous. I think

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the worst team scoring wise in the NBA averages one

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hundred and four points per game, and they only gave

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up one oh three to okay See, which is the

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third best offense. The Chuck's point. People can overanalyze this

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thing to death and say, well, Brian Shaw wouldn't have

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lost this game or whatever it's like.

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Speaker 2: Would he not even entertain would he have lost it?

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Speaker 1: Though? Oh my god, the like, Sorry, Adam, I didn't

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mean to cut you off.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, No, it's it's the approper reaction to a

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really weak narrative. And just look at those three guys

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you mentioned were like three or fifteen from the outside,

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Bogie Norm and James Harden. How many games are you

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gonna be able to win against lesser competition on nights

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like that, let alone the OKC Thunder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, well, that's the margins thing. Right, Like,

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you know, on any given night, we can take maybe

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one or two of those players having an off night.

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When it's like, you know, three key contributors, there's just

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not enough here to be able to elevate. Despite Like

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I like that Adam commanded the defensive performance because like,

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despite it, you know, it was a good go. But yeah,

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it's just that there's not enough.

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Speaker 3: It's disappointing and a real blown opportunity and missed opportunity

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because you get the worst game of the season for

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maybe SGA, and that wasn't by coincidence. They were really

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good defensively against him. They don't have Chet, they don't

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have j. Dubb, And if one of those three guys

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has a hot night or just a decent night, an

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average night, you probably win the ballgame. And then or

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you just don't do what you did to start the

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second quarter and you still get away with those three

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guys shooting so poorly. There were many avenues to win

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this game for the Clippers.

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Speaker 1: They did not win it. It sucks. I was excited

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for sixth seed Sunday, but that did not happen. We

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still have to wait for that. The biggest thing out

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of this game though was Harden possibly well he took

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a knock. We know for sure that he took two knocks.

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He took a knee of the thigh, and then when

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he fell from that he rolled his ankle. Law Murray

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last night over on Blue Sky said this, this tweet

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was funny but also scary. In the locker room and

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into it dome, James Harden is moving worse than I've

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ever seen him since joining the LA Clippers. Needs help

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getting his right shoe on and sliding his leg around

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like a damn pirate. He did, however, travel with the team.

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He was wearing very fuzzy Louis Vauton slippers. I cannot

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confirm if they were orthopedic or not, but they looked

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very expensive, so they're probably very comfortable. I guess I

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kind of want to talk like people keep bringing up

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this option of like should we just sit Harden for

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a week. You can't do that. He will not allow

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And I don't mean this in a mean way.

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Speaker 2: Who is the starting point guard as none A?

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Speaker 1: Who is the starting point guard? B? What historical evidence

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do we have that James Harden is gonna say, yeah,

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shut me down for a week. That's not how he

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plays well that we didn't.

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Speaker 2: People will another week to like knock the rust off,

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And that's not a knock on him. That's just you know,

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the way he likes to play is he likes to

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stay in rhythm, he likes to stay ready. So yeah,

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it's one of those things that like I get the logic, like, yeah,

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of course that makes sound sense. Gives the guy who

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is the most important piece of the offense a little

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bit of rest. It's that's just not the reality.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't looked tired. He's literally been playing his best

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basketball in March. He's been incredible.

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Speaker 2: Not well, this is all theoretical. Have you considered the theoretical tiredness.

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You can't always see it, manifested. Sure, you got number.

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Speaker 3: Where he thought he was slowing down and then he

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picked it up.

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Speaker 1: He put up fifty in the second out of a

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back to back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and in March he's getting twenty six points, forty

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three percent from the field, thirty percent from the outside.

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He's been really good. And yeah, I don't know what's

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going to happen if he is out. If he's out,

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well that must mean if he's not playing through it.

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It's more serious.

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Speaker 1: It's like zoo Zoom misses a game, You're like, oh shit,

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this gotta hurt really bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or they put their foot down because of his

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foot issue going on right now and just saying, hey,

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we got to save you from yourself because we didn't

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do it in the fourth quarter. Coach lou postgame spoke

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about that. But it's like, who's a better option than

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having James Harden at sixty percent last night? Who was better?

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He's still gets fould on a three pointer. They're still

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playing him so close. He gets fout on a three pointer.

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His gravity out there still matters, even if he's being

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used as a decoy. I don't know what else you do.

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Speaker 1: That's a good way to look at it, Like, what

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of the backup point guard options are as good as

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a sixty percent.

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Speaker 2: James how many?

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Speaker 3: How many?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Chris Dunns is sixty per James.

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Speaker 1: Harden twenty eight because that's what you need to make

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up for the three point percentage. So it was described

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he James Harden described as the middle of his foot

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and people were one, we're hoping that it's not a

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tendon strain. He had that in twenty twenty two. He

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missed a month. We have no we're gonna get the

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injury report tomorrow. They haven't. It's six twenty when we're

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recording this, and he wasn't on the injury report a

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day early or something like that, So that's somewhat encouraging.

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Are we thinking he plays on Wednesday? Where like, I'm

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leaning yes, because we have no evidence to suggest that

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he shouldn't at this point, and they need him like

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they need him more than maybe any other Clipper other

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than Zoo would be my take.

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Speaker 2: A decent amount. I'm like, you know, this isn't your

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full week, but a decent amount of mess for this team.

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Speaker 1: Comfortable flight. They took this this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm concerned if he's not playing.

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I think my concern is ratcheted up.

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Speaker 1: I think that's.

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Speaker 3: Fair, though, is in the three games he hasn't played

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this season, was Kawhi back at that point? Like, now

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Kawhi is there.

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Speaker 1: Let me look, I don't losing James.

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Speaker 3: Harden when you actually have everybody else healthy is a

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little bit different. We haven't seen it, but I think

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you can get by. I think if there is risk

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of him exacerbating the injury. I'm not playing him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so he can still beat the Knicks. Oh, they

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could absolutely still beat the next Okay, So he was

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inactive for the loss to Houston.

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Speaker 3: Kawhi didn't play against Houston, did not play.

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Speaker 1: He was an active for the loss against Okay. See,

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I'm starting to sound some kind of pattern when he's out.

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I can't quite put my finger on it. Kawhi was

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out for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they definitely are winning if he's in for Okay.

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Speaker 1: Seeing they lost to Boston and ot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was out.

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Speaker 1: That was everybody had. We started Terrence Man, Emir, Derek

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Jones Junior, Kevin Porter Junior, and Mo Bamba. That game,

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Kobe Brown played thirty eight minutes Jesus Christ, So it

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feels like he's probably going to play because he's traveling, Like,

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I don't know, I assume he's playing.

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Speaker 3: He said, we'll see how it feels, So I don't know.

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At some point there's gonna be a type of injury

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he can't just play through anymore. And who knows how

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much worse it got the next day. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Because that initial tweet from law Too, it's like the

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injury was fairly fresh at that point. Not to drill

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into like that tweet specific, but you know what I mean,

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like right after the ankle sprain. We'll see how it.

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Speaker 3: Reacts or what point of the game did it happen.

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It was near the end of the third.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was when he fell when he got

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the thigh.

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Speaker 3: Right, was that you're like the end of the third? Yeah,

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because I just rewatched the fourth quarter and it didn't

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happen then, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I took really shitty notes on a per quarter basis.

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The way I saw it was the third went Sorry,

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it was a third when he took the knee of the.

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Speaker 3: Thigh, Okay, and that's when it happened. He took a

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couple of hops in the second half, he rolled the foot,

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is what happened?

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Speaker 2: Door like door is like coming around the zoo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Coincidentally, the guy who plays basketball too physical is

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yet again in a situation where someone gets hurt.

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Speaker 3: So people are talking about how hobbled he was in

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the fourth and I redwatched it. He doesn't look that hobbled.

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In fact, one of his turnovers was him driving towards

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the basket and around like the six and a half

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minute Mark when he came back in he's driving, So

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I'm not saying this means he's gonna be good to

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go on Wednesday. It could totally swell up after the game.

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I believe the latch week. I'm saying, if he can

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get back and be able to look like you can

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at that level, maybe he's able to go.

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Speaker 1: Or even sixty percent of that level. I think is

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this podcast as level set? What's your main takeaway from

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this loss? And I guess like I was looking at

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it from the Clippers go two and one against the Calves,

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Memphis and Okac, we talked about it last week. We

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would have signed up for that right. The Calves game

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was incredible. Thank you to the Clippers for putting on

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a show. My family was in the stands and they asked,

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how come the Clippers don't play with a healthy team

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every game? Well, I wish I knew the answer. What's

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the main takeaway? Well, what's your main takeaway from this

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this three game strap? Because I feel like there's some

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sour tastes in some Clippers fans mouths. How are we

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what are we really taking away from this?

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Speaker 2: I mean, like like we've known all year, the defense

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is really is real. It's one hundred percent for real.

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And when in a corner, I mean, this team can't

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execute at an insanely high level, at a scary high level.

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Just can they get to that consistently enough to get

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out of series? Or And I think there are still

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question and I think there's still honest questions about that, Adam,

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what say you?

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Speaker 3: I remember we were talking about a couple of weeks ago,

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this color Rick that was calling in and complaining about

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the roster and being like, we aren't serious, we aren't

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a contender. And I was still holding on to this

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point as a year one, saying that, you know, if

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Kawhi gets right and they're healthy, in a seven game series,

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I still feel like they have a chance against pretty

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much anyone. And I'm not saying they would beat Okay.

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See in a seven game series, they didn't have Chet,

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they didn't have JDub last night. They can play better,

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but they might be able to make some noise against them.

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They might make it interesting if Kawhi can look close

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to being the best player in that series. It could

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be interesting because the biggest thing is Kauhai still look

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good last night again, six straight games of basically last

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year's version of Kauwhi send it. A month into the season,

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they get last year's version of Kawhi. With this defense,

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their offense is gonna be bumped up to being a

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top ten offense. They're gonna cut down the turnovers which

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they have overall, some bad ones at the wrong time

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last night. Not on Uh, they're dangerous, they're a problem,

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but they're still in this position where you gotta get

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out of the plane right now. So I don't know.

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I still think you get in a seven game series.

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The Clippers can be a problem healthy, just like we

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thought a month into the season when we knew the

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defense was we knew the defense was for real pretty

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early on. We knew they were creating that defensive identity

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when they pivoted away from Paul George and how they

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were playing this. You have that with a healthy Kawhi

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like the guy we saw last night, I mean the

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shot he hit over SGA around the two minute mark

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to put him up by two after Alice Caruso kind

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of tried to go for the steal. He pumped fakes,

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he gets SGA up, then he puts it in like

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Kawhi looks ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 3: His mid range shot over the last two weeks has

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gone way up and that's all that was like the

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only thing we need to see, Like his mid raine

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shot was missing. We're like, so, does that mean this

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is the end of Kawhi or is that if he's

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hitting threes when he first came back, but he's not

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hitting the mid range at some point you expect that

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to come back? Why would that leave him? I would

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think that would be the last thing to go. It's back. Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a stat I think from a couple

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of games ago two where he scored more points than

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the paint in this stretch over these last six games

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than he did like an absurd amount in the beginning.

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So that's incredibly encouraging. And the defense, like, the defense

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is still there, so that's good. Like again, okay, see

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one hundred and three points even out those two guys,

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they have a deep team. That's that's good. Law Murray

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had a take on like, you know, his record needed

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for standings for the remaining games for the Clippers. He said,

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for the sixth seed, he thinks the Clippers should need

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to go nine and two. For the seventh seed, eight

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and three for the eight seed two and nine that

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obviously probably not gonna happen. Haggle, no haggle, William and Adam,

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the Clippers will get the sixth seed. William, there you

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go first. I'm seeing some react.

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Speaker 2: Ah, I'm gonna ask to haggle with that. I don't

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think they're I think they're I think they're kind of

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stuck in the plane right now, especially they're gonna miss

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Harden for really any amount of time. I don't see

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nine and two as being attainable from where I sit

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right now, but seeding doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a very good point as well. There were people,

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I think it was after the Calves game where someone

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was like, will was right. It's the year like we've

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been wrong, Adam. Haggle, no haggle, the Clippers will be

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the succeed.

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Speaker 3: There's so many variables. It's it's a coin flip.

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Speaker 1: That's the beauty of haggle, no haggle.

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Speaker 3: It's like Golden State the last game of the regular season.

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Minnesota's just lost to the Pacers tonight, so the Clippers

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are back in the seventh spot. Currently, they have the

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tiebreaker over Golden State. I'll say no haggle to go

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against what Will said, I think it's a total coin flip.

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But yeah, they have they have a very good chance

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of getting it. Tell me if Harden's playing and now

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serious injury though is first, I don't know. There's too

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many balls in the air, there's too many things to

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account for. But they have a real shot.

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Speaker 1: They do have a shot. I think, I think I

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have to haggle it because again, the consistency has been

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the issue from this Clippers team. You know, the defense

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has been very good.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's some of the changes where it's not

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nine and two, you know, like even slightly, like I

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think I could maybe even get to eight and three.

472
00:25:22,599 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it also depends too, like what Adam's saying

473
00:25:24,759 --> 00:25:27,119
the Warriors, Yeah, it totally all off.

474
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it totally depends on what happens around us in

475
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:30,920
the standings too.

476
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: But what's their strength? Let me look up one of

477
00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:36,359
the and I will I will say this one of

478
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,359
the most unreliable stats that I feel like I use,

479
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,920
the strength of schedule because it just purely factors in

480
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:43,640
opponent winning percentage.

481
00:25:44,799 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 3: Minnesota, it's a weak They have one the easiest strengths

482
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,400
to schedule.

483
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: They play the Jazz once, the seventy six ers who

484
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,880
suck the Nets twice, and the Suns once. I love

485
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,599
that the Suns are so bad that they're like lumped

486
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,599
in with Like, well, you got a pretty easy spot

487
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,200
on this schedule. You got the damn Suns coming up,

488
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:09,000
and then Golden State is sixteenth, only a couple of

489
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,680
spots behind the Clippers. They still have to play the Rockets, Nuggets, Lakers, Grizzlies,

490
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,400
and the Clippers. But they also get the Pels, the Heat,

491
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,880
the Spurs twice, the Blazers, and against the Suns. But

492
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,839
we get the MAVs twice, so that feels good.

493
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's coming down to the final day or two

494
00:26:31,079 --> 00:26:32,000
of the regular season.

495
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: Yes, thankfully we have that tie breaker against Golden State,

496
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,160
because that is that could be an incredibly stressful game

497
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,240
to end the season with an incredibly like isn't the

498
00:26:43,319 --> 00:26:47,960
playing like a day after the regular season, Like they

499
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,000
get a day break and then the playing starts or

500
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:52,319
something crazy? Am I misremembering that?

501
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,599
Speaker 3: No, it sounds right. Season ends on Sunday and we

502
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,000
might have playing games Tuesday.

503
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, they usually get it. I feel like the last

504
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,599
two years at least they get into the plane right after.

505
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: The April fifteenth. Between the last day April fifteenth, so

506
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,880
the last day of the regular season is the thirteenth.

507
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,039
They get a day to chill or get COVID if

508
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:16,839
you're a Clippers fan, uh, and then play the most

509
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,720
important game of the season up to that point.

510
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be close, real close.

511
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: It's going to be close. Yes, let us know what

512
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,880
you think at Clippers Pod on Twitter, at Clippers Podcast

513
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,079
on YouTube. Tense times for the Clippers, but nothing that

514
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,880
we're that we're not used to. Right coming out, we're

515
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,680
doing a preview of Clippers versus Nicks, which is I

516
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:49,160
just I'm getting it's gonna be weird. If you're listening,

517
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,000
there's gonna be some quick audio ads. They might be

518
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,240
very loud. We got reviews on that. But if you're watching,

519
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:56,759
you just get to see these beautiful faces. So there's

520
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:58,720
gonna be some ads coming up, and then Clippers versus

521
00:27:58,759 --> 00:27:59,640
Nicks in three.

522
00:27:59,759 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: Two what welcome back into Clips and Dip. We just

523
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,119
talked the heartbreaker lost to the Oklahoma City Thunder. Now

524
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,720
we're looking ahead to the Knicks. Who knows what Harden's

525
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:15,119
availability is gonna go it is gonna be for this one,

526
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,759
but as we said, he did travel with the with

527
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,480
the team. Will be a second night of a back

528
00:28:20,519 --> 00:28:22,680
to back for the Knicks, so a little bit of

529
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:27,039
a rest advantage there. However, they are at home. So

530
00:28:28,279 --> 00:28:29,839
what do you what are you watching for this one?

531
00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:30,279
Speaker 1: What are you?

532
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: What are you watching for in this one? Chuck?

533
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,279
Speaker 1: Who gives you ship? I mean the home back to back?

534
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 2: Is that really a back to back?

535
00:28:38,119 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: Come on, they're gonna sleep with the stadium right, Like, well,

536
00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:46,599
how hard is that? I mean, I'm watching for what

537
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,319
if Harden can't go, like we have no if he's

538
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,559
questioned off the table, We've already talked about that. No,

539
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,880
if Harden can't go, I obviously feel way worse about

540
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,440
this this game. But I don't know. There's no Brunson.

541
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,880
Mitch Robinson is questionable for their game tomorrow, and Miles

542
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,759
McBride is out. But Mitchell Robinson like hasn't been playing

543
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,880
uh back to backs anyway, so I'm wondering if he

544
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,480
plays versus. I don't know, man, all I'm rio like Adam,

545
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:17,079
who start? What's the lineup if Harden can't go?

546
00:29:18,359 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: So I asked law this earlier as he was in

547
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:22,799
a subway in New York.

548
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: And doing what.

549
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:30,839
Speaker 3: Getting ready for the game, always traveling over to MSG.

550
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:36,279
But uh, he thinks Bogey. He thinks Bogie would start. Uh,

551
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:40,079
it makes sense. It's either Bogear or Ben most likely,

552
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,000
Like I think Bogey probably makes more sense offensively. Sure.

553
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:50,359
Uh well yeah, and that's what they're not replacing a defender.

554
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,640
They're replacing a guy who runs the show on offense. Yeah,

555
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,640
because he can run, pick and roll with the visa zubas.

556
00:29:58,119 --> 00:29:58,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

557
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,519
Speaker 3: Really, well, not that Ben Simmons can't, but Bogey can

558
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:07,160
also shoot. So Bogey probably Bogey Norm done.

559
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,759
Speaker 1: Because we've also too, this is something we didn't since

560
00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:13,440
the team has been fully healthy. We've seen the open

561
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:16,599
with Don and then close with Derek Jones Junior. Kind

562
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,599
of prescription from from Tylo with the starting lineup versus

563
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:23,279
the closing lineup. So it would be like Bogey Norm

564
00:30:23,519 --> 00:30:29,680
done or do they switch it up fully and go

565
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:34,960
like Bogey Norm Kawhi Derrek Jones Junior zoo Because that's

566
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,480
what we mean when people have been out, is that

567
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:39,240
Derek Jones Junior and at the four, I.

568
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:43,279
Speaker 3: Mean Dunn has been starting the whole three guards, starting

569
00:30:43,359 --> 00:30:43,960
lineup thing.

570
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: When healthy, when fully healthy.

571
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think he likes done as a tone

572
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,880
center defensively. That's that was my argument before. I think

573
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,359
that's what he likes. And Dune has been like in

574
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,079
foul trouble recently, and DJ has been playing well off

575
00:30:58,119 --> 00:31:00,759
the bench. And I like the fact that closed out

576
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:03,480
that game because he was like the main guy locking

577
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:09,599
up SGA. But I don't know. Then I think, well,

578
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,640
what about starting Batom against the Knicks, like with Bogie

579
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,440
out there instead of done? If you went Bogey, Norm, Kawhi,

580
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:24,759
Nico and zubas well.

581
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:28,039
Speaker 1: He got rested. He played five minutes against the Thunder.

582
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,759
Speaker 3: I will say this, like, who did they want him

583
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:36,000
playing over? They're locking them down defensively. Yeah, the reason

584
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:39,240
to play Nico Batum is to have more versatility on defense.

585
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:44,039
What why would you play him over guys with more

586
00:31:44,079 --> 00:31:44,960
offensive potential?

587
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,359
Speaker 1: Well, I think you run the simulation enough times that

588
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,640
you just think that Niko Batum makes up for the

589
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,160
three point shooting. That's I'm not defending it, but I

590
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,519
think that's I'm not agreeing with it. I just think

591
00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:59,519
that's where the bad basketball brain goes. You think if

592
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:02,559
it went exactly the same, but Nico was getting these shots,

593
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,599
maybe more of them would have gone in. And that's

594
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:06,720
a bad way to think about the game. That's how

595
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:07,319
it works.

596
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: But that is what I sound logic though.

597
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if you only look at the game on

598
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:16,880
paper with hindsight, it's a pretty easy game.

599
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:20,519
Speaker 3: But you're good to go with the guys who are

600
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:26,240
shooting arguably better on higher volume. Like it's I get it, but.

601
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but have you considered if Nico was at the

602
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:29,480
same volume.

603
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,359
Speaker 3: Very good point here is it.

604
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: Will How do you feel about this game?

605
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:40,359
Speaker 3: I don't.

606
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:45,839
Speaker 2: I don't know how to feel about this one. If

607
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,920
Harden can't go, obviously it's a huge struggle. I just

608
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,839
want to see the same level of execution as we've

609
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,480
seen over this stretch so far. I want to see

610
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,200
the same approach and I can live with the result.

611
00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:59,880
I mean, again, this one would be like no brunts

612
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,680
and you know, Robinson maybe or maybe not Plane. I mean,

613
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,000
this would be not a great loss. Sure that the

614
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:10,079
third like they're the third seed in the East, but

615
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,359
that to me would still not be like a quality loss.

616
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,680
If you only get two, you gotta go nine and two. Buddy, buddy,

617
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:18,960
this is not the one you want to take.

618
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,519
Speaker 1: And this would put us at two and two for

619
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:25,079
the aforementioned prove it trip with kind of peaks and

620
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,920
valleys on both sides.

621
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,359
Speaker 3: For sure.

622
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,039
Speaker 1: Since the All Star break, the nixt.

623
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: Planes, I'd say, yes, this would be about.

624
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: Since the All Star break, they've turned into what we

625
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:41,200
all thought they would be, which is tenth in defensive

626
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:44,759
rating and twenty sixth in offensive rating. Yes, they're mitching

627
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:46,960
Jalen Brunson, which is a big part of their offensive rating.

628
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,519
But this is a team that, like, they're not scoring

629
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:54,000
a bunch of points, they're not shooting that well. We

630
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,319
beat them earlier this month. The blueprints kind of there,

631
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,279
like we shot them out of the him.

632
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: You guys remember who they started against the Knicks in

633
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:09,800
that game? Who shows Nico to guard Kat? That's why

634
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,960
I think and Cat got shut down?

635
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: Was that fully healthy clips? No, that's what throws me out,

636
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,119
because I don't know what Ty's gonna do with a

637
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:22,039
fully healthy lineup.

638
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, they still didn't have Norm Yeah or Kawhi Kawhi

639
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:31,239
played in that game.

640
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the starting lineup for Oh shit, I

641
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:42,559
clicked the wrong one. Damn you stats dot NBA dot com. Man,

642
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:44,079
I don't want hard to miss this game at all.

643
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: Uh. That was the game where Bogie had some tip

644
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:49,159
ins at the end. He didn't shoot it well, but

645
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,719
he got a couple of tippins on the forward.

646
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, this should be a winnable game, though without hard

647
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,880
like if he did, if he did have to sit one,

648
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,559
this is still this is still a winnable game.

649
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: A hundred we got.

650
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,159
Speaker 2: We just can't have no heart in our three highest

651
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,719
volume three point shooters, you know, shoot thirty percent.

652
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: And second chance points. We didn't really touch on that

653
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,519
in the Thunder recap, but they smoked us on second

654
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:18,079
chance points. There were four instances of an offensive reboard

655
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:21,079
lead offensive rebound leading to a three for the Thunder

656
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,880
in that game. Yeah, that's fucking crazy. And last time

657
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,480
we played the Knicks, Josh Hart of all people, had

658
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:29,599
twenty rebounds, they rebound, they outrebounded us, but again we

659
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,400
shot them out of the gym. So I'm like, which

660
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,599
version of the effort are we see because we know,

661
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,679
based on some of the viral clips going around of

662
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,559
the Knicks, they're gonna put a lot of effort.

663
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: It's annoying that the Clippers actually had more offensive rebounds

664
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:50,400
in that game last night, they just didn't convert the opportunities.

665
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: Another thing to be upset about, circling back to things

666
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,519
being upset to be upset about. Yeah, and it feels

667
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:04,480
kind of like we we didn't. Zoo didn't get a

668
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,840
lot of touches, which I think partly is due to

669
00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:09,519
how good the perimeter defense is for the Thunder. I

670
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:11,920
think that plays into it. But it also it's hard

671
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,559
to not kick up the memories we have as Clippers

672
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,000
fans of like, oh, only nine shots feels pretty low

673
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:19,440
in a game where they lose by two.

674
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 3: The thing is, though, and I love going after them

675
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,320
for not getting Zoo the ball enough. That's like maybe,

676
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:31,800
but their last three turnovers of the game are all

677
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,280
trying to get a beast of Zoo Boss the basketball. Yeah,

678
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:35,360
they tried.

679
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: Zoo also had two pretty incredible blocks that I think

680
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,440
are going to go unnoticed late in the game because

681
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,000
the Clippers lost, But those were that was some clutch

682
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:51,159
defense from Zoo there. Yeah, I don't I don't know

683
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,119
what to make of this game. It's gonna be weird,

684
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,639
is what is how I feel about it. It's gonna

685
00:36:55,679 --> 00:36:58,559
be a wonky ending. I'm hoping the refs and again

686
00:36:58,599 --> 00:37:00,360
we don't we don't cry about the ref a lot

687
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,920
on this podcast. But they were bad last night and

688
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,480
they even admitted themselves that they missed the call on Shay,

689
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:08,920
so we have documentation that they were bad from them.

690
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: I love that they do that because it's like, okay, great,

691
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:14,320
so now now.

692
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,519
Speaker 1: What we get more ship to yell at you on

693
00:37:16,599 --> 00:37:18,800
the sidelines like this doesn't help anybody.

694
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: I like the accountability, it's not the real accountability is

695
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:25,960
nothing happens.

696
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: They didn't dump mayonnaise on the ref's head who missed

697
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,320
the call or anything. There's no consequences.

698
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,039
Speaker 3: But them having to admit that they missed the call.

699
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:39,079
There's like a transparency aspect to it. I like. I

700
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,000
like seeing that.

701
00:37:40,199 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: But are they admitting everything they missed?

702
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't know and they don't name names. They

703
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,559
don't say this sideline ref missed this call that was

704
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,519
on them. You should have called that.

705
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 3: Name perfection, now come on, But I.

706
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Speaker 1: All I want to see. All I want to see

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is that the ref if they made a car in

708
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a one possession game, if they if the ref who

709
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:06,880
missed or made the wrong call. Is they should allow

710
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them or require them to sit on a dunk tank

711
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and then the coach whose team was wronged Tyler in

712
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,000
this scenario, you can pick any assistant coach also that's

713
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on the table to get one throw at the dunk tank.

714
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:21,840
I think that's what they should do. Maybe you build

715
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,199
it up. Maybe that's what they do for the All

716
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:28,199
Star Game. Nothing sucks. Do this and the Mayo in

717
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,519
this scenario, Sure, Mayo nails. I don't know, it's that's

718
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:34,280
that's league, that's that's Union stuff. I don't know. I

719
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don't know what they can legally fill it with.

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Speaker 3: I actually hot take outside of that really bad call, yes,

721
00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:45,559
that should have been a foul in SGA. Outside of that,

722
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I think the Clippers, who actually got a pretty good

723
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,360
whistle last night, like surely to take a free throw

724
00:38:51,559 --> 00:38:53,719
till to fake the five minute mark of the second

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quarter and.

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Speaker 1: We had more free throws also totally Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Artenstein had some real tiki tag calls go against him

728
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,280
early on, and like look at the Kawhi fourth quarter

729
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,639
play where he pushes off of Alex Caruso and he

730
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,760
loses the basketball and they called a foul I think

731
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on Dork coming over, I was like, they could have

732
00:39:11,519 --> 00:39:13,519
called the off arm there in Kawhi, So I'm not.

733
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I just I can't blame that one on the officials

734
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as much as I'd like to.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like you need to be on the dunk tank

736
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:24,599
done also an official dunker. Dunn was playing with his

737
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,760
hands a lot very early on Shae. There was a

738
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couple where I was worried that Don was going to

739
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,119
get like the two fouls in the first like six

740
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:35,119
minutes or something like that. He only had one, But

741
00:39:35,159 --> 00:39:37,239
there was a couple where I was like, I guess,

742
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,480
so letting him go, But we want to see more

743
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:42,880
of the same defense against as well. Mentioned a Knicks

744
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,239
team that is beatable. It's a beatable Knixt team even

745
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if we're out art.

746
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the defensive like set the defensive tone early, be

747
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:54,119
able to knock down some threes. I just I do

748
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,880
feel like this is a very winnable game.

749
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Speaker 3: Honestly, with two days off in between and then a

750
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day off before they take on Brooklyn, this is, yes,

751
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:08,199
a big opportunity. They have to get this one. I

752
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,119
don't want to make it seem like it's just about

753
00:40:10,159 --> 00:40:13,079
stopping one guy. But if you slow down, Karl Anthony Towns,

754
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there is a very good chance you're winning that game.

755
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll take the game where someone goes McCall bridges,

756
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,519
which again worst trade than La Paul George trade. You

757
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:29,400
know what I mean? Like there's it is all right

758
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to the most important part player of the game picks. Now,

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if you're new to the show, thank you for hanging out.

760
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I think we are getting some more listeners because who

761
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:40,760
doesn't want to watch the Clippers as they battle in

762
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,960
the play in Things are getting tense if you're new

763
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,239
to the show. With this game, we cannot pick one

764
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of the obvious guys. So we cannot pick Norm Powell,

765
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we cannot pick James Harden, we cannot pick Kawy Leonard,

766
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we cannot pick Aviataz bats So it's real roots it

767
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,559
it's too easy. It's too easy. Is because we decided.

768
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That's why we decided that if you can choose anyone else,

769
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you could choose a member of the coaching staff. Well,

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who is your player of the game pick for Clippers

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versus Nix.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday, the twenty six, I'm going Bogie Redemption in the garden.

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00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:23,119
Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Well, not a great game from him on Sunday, but

775
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overall he's been improving. He's been he's looked a lot better.

776
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,400
And if there is no heart in yeah, he outside

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of Bogey, I don't know how to make up for

778
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,880
the offensive loss there. I mean, Norm can obviously go

779
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,000
super nova, but we can't pick him for some reason.

780
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,599
So yeah, I think I think this needs to be

781
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:51,559
a good Bogey game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, especially if Pardon can't go. I don't think

783
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,199
that's crazy. Adam your pick for player.

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Speaker 3: Of the game, Uh, I'll go a mere coffee, okay,

785
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:06,840
because he had some nice plays in the fourth quarter,

786
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and amazingly, the same people who were hating on a

787
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mere coffee as of late, we're like, why didn't you

788
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:14,159
play Kamir coffee more minutes in the fourth All of

789
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a sudden.

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Speaker 2: There's no pleasing. There's no pleasing these people.

791
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:21,559
Speaker 3: No, h he did hit a nice jumper, he had

792
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:25,559
the goltending call against Caruso's, he got in transition, knocked

793
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:29,360
down a couple of free throws. Hopefully Amir's confidence is

794
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,639
high going into Medison Square Garden. I'll go with the

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mere coffee.

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Speaker 1: A mere coffee, okay, so we got Bogie a mere coffee.

797
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I have no idea if James Harden's gonna be out,

798
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,519
but if he is out, we're gonna need Ben Simmons

799
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to set the table and just set things up, is

800
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,559
what is gonna happen. So I think I'm gonna go

801
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,320
Ben Simmons if Harden is out, and if Harden is

802
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,880
not out, I'm going Derek Jones Junior.

803
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:57,639
Speaker 2: Again, hedging your bets as you are the only as

804
00:42:57,679 --> 00:42:59,880
you are the only host who has done in this segment.

805
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's not off the table. There's this only certain

806
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,239
guys we can't pick now. I'm gonna go Ben Simmons

807
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:07,639
either way.

808
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Speaker 3: Oh, we just need it.

809
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying some crazy scoring game.

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Speaker 3: He showed up.

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Speaker 1: He scored his first points at the into It Dome yesterday,

812
00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:19,719
which is crazy. He had not scored at the Dome

813
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,159
with some pretty fancy layups, which was odd, but we

814
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,320
needed them. So I'm going Simmons do everything he brought

815
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,960
here to do, cut, defend pass. If he does that

816
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:33,320
soundly and if Bogey's making the shots, I think things

817
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,039
are okay. Any other final thoughts about this Nicks Clippers

818
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:45,440
matchup must win, must win. I think everything from here

819
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,519
on out is a must win. We are going to

820
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be back with a full episode for y'all on Thursday.

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I'm doing Postgame with Knick's Film School on Wednesday, so

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hopefully that's fun. Should be a good time. I think

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we'll be streaming that on clips and day. People will

824
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figure it out. Depending on Harden's injury report, there may

825
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:06,519
or may not be an emergency pod tomorrow from some

826
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combination of us. Who knows. Let's hope that he's not

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on the report. I don't think he will be. Will

828
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where can people demand that they're elected officials divert more

829
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,880
funds towards to find this podcast?

830
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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know they need to be diverting public

831
00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:29,360
funds to. It's actually really easy to find. You can

832
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,840
find his podcast. What's your podcast? We're on all audio platforms.

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If you have to listen podcasts, Spotify, go ahead, a

834
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little rating, we little review there yet is obviously over

835
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:46,199
on YouTube dot com at Clippers Podcast. Wherever you listen,

836
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however you watch, you know, we appreciate you. Begins now.

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Speaker 1: The march to It's our year begins now, and it's

838
00:44:56,079 --> 00:45:01,400
already begun. That started you know as soon as last year, Adam,

839
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one positive thing for the Clippers fan base to start

840
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,679
this incredibly hot week.

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Speaker 3: So, for like the fifth straight year, the reports of

842
00:45:13,159 --> 00:45:17,199
Kawai's demise have been greatly exaggerated. He doesn't look to

843
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,760
be washed. He always does this at his own pace.

844
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,840
This time it took longer because he wasn't able to

845
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,800
practice his hard so he's got to figure out his

846
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,480
timing in game. But now the mid range shots are

847
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:33,840
falling frequently, and over the last six games, kawhis at

848
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,480
twenty six points, eight boards, four assists, two and a

849
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:40,000
half steals, fifty eight percent from the field and fifty

850
00:45:40,039 --> 00:45:44,639
five percent from three. He looks like one of the

851
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,159
best players in the NBA again, and that's kind of

852
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:49,079
a big deal for this Clippers team to make any

853
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:53,000
noise moving forward. So hopefully he'll show out under the

854
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:54,480
bright lights at MSG.

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Speaker 1: There we go. Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank

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00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,400
you for the positivity, Adam, as I say said, we'll

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be back on Thursday, and as always, let's go Clips