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<v Speaker 1>Streaming live on the Ihearts Radio Wive. This is Eye

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox sportsporteen. Cookie,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Steve Rivera, your Dave Silver. Now we have one

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<v Speaker 2>with breaking news. I don't know why it never works

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<v Speaker 2>with me. It doesn't like me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, welcome to breaking news, yours truly, Mihitolindo on

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<v Speaker 3>a Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels a little bit weird. Yes, no, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>you filled in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're here on a Tuesday, starting off with some

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona women's basketball after the weekend editions of Molly Ladwig

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<v Speaker 3>and oh Sumiya Suga Pung.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah she where's she from?

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<v Speaker 3>You see San Diego transfer Ladwig is an incoming from

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<v Speaker 3>I think Omaha de Brass.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the roster is pretty much complete in it,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe so.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been waiting for the official on the on the website,

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<v Speaker 3>but they announced today the officially signed the signing international

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<v Speaker 3>guard uh media.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we had that yesterday, but it was I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it was official.

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<v Speaker 3>It may have been, but and then they had a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of staff editions. Jenna Nudsen. I believe that's how

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<v Speaker 3>you pronounced that last name. As an assistant.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach as well, he played for her at the Embry

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<v Speaker 4>Riddle her early years as as the head coach, so

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<v Speaker 4>she played for her there.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you ever guessed that mby Riddle had a team?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know. No, what is it? Is it

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess yeah, so yeah, it's up in Prescott.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, you haven't said that, right pre Preskres I always

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<v Speaker 3>had a Prescott.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's wrong. It's pres k a biscuit, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>a brisky the biscuit and brisky don't make me hungry.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I didn't have my lunch. So alasi these A

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<v Speaker 3>Williams as the director of Staff Staff Operations, joining her

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<v Speaker 3>from Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so they get they get a GM, they got

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<v Speaker 2>Julie Rosie card great. Uh and then we have the

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<v Speaker 2>two new right, well, okay, I think they're gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they're gonna be fine. It always will be yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>sure eventually, sure that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Lightning the bottle like Ada did.

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<v Speaker 3>And who knows exactly And then you guys have such

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<v Speaker 3>about it earlier. But baseball happening tonight six o'clock high

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<v Speaker 3>Corbett Field taking on New Mexico State six.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, yeah, you'll be home by eight thirty whether

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<v Speaker 2>you like.

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<v Speaker 6>It or not.

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<v Speaker 4>He handed one of the basketball games full night of sports.

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<v Speaker 4>What a life baseball? Well, they struggled, but they went

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<v Speaker 4>one to two against six. They've got a couple more

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<v Speaker 4>series before the Big twelve Attorney.

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<v Speaker 3>They played in Mexico State about a month ago, a

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<v Speaker 3>little lesson the beginning of the month. Yeah, one eleven

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<v Speaker 3>to nine. Uh, and tonight will be there. You have baseball?

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<v Speaker 2>What is that is there? Latin night? Take me to

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<v Speaker 2>the game. Okay on baseball, I should be likely.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I went to U Zoom Nights a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of weeks ago and there was like nobody there from

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<v Speaker 4>the Zona Zoo. I was kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't there supposed to be like their studying day, their

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<v Speaker 4>study The only thing they had was like the cheerleaders

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<v Speaker 4>were there for some reason. And what was the attendants like, say,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe fifteen hundred, like a bunch of old guys like me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they thought you doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember the days of when Chip played played for

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, baseball happening tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you I mean yeahego the baseball Take me to

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<v Speaker 3>the game of baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Softball's got their upcoming road trip to Houston starting on

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<v Speaker 3>Friday after the split in San Diego last weekend. But

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<v Speaker 3>today was announced Devin Nets picked up her second big

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<v Speaker 3>tall Picture of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, So come grat this little future for her graduation.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not sure if you talked about yesterday, but

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<v Speaker 3>Shaquille O'Neal has agreed to become the Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 2>State gm UH with Bibby right, yeah, with baby. That's

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<v Speaker 2>interesting because his son's gonna be playing for her gm Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>When when do they have time? He's got to do

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<v Speaker 2>an icy hot commercial, he's got to do a general

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's gonna be the gm Well, if anything anything,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the world of mine because he's he is

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<v Speaker 2>and he's going full for his baby. He knows, he

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<v Speaker 2>knows people. Can he get some players I think for

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<v Speaker 2>that level, I think so. I think.

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<v Speaker 7>So.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is that's the place, Dave, and we know

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<v Speaker 2>this New Mexico state, maybe in New Mexico to a degree,

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<v Speaker 2>the Colorado States. You go there and you better catch

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<v Speaker 2>it right away. It's a place to get fired because

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<v Speaker 2>you got to win, you know what I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they're in the big sky.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so what Nau the Montana is the North Oka

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<v Speaker 2>If he wins, and he could because he's that dude,

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<v Speaker 2>he's that coach he wanted at the high school level.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a demanding coach. Uh he can, Yeah, he'll draw

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<v Speaker 2>some excuse me, draw some attention. Well, look he's already

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<v Speaker 2>did with Shack being his GM guy exactly. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he's uh, I know, he got a recruit out of

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, more power to Mike.

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<v Speaker 4>So these guys come in like as GM's like, is

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<v Speaker 4>that like a really a full time job?

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<v Speaker 2>You think, well, how's that going to work? Well? I

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<v Speaker 2>think depends, Like here would be an u a right

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<v Speaker 2>over there. I'm not too sure because uh, Steph is

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<v Speaker 2>a GM for David Savidson. Davidson also Trey Young at Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, yeah, so it's kind of like a you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>what's the what's the word I'm looking for a celebrity

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<v Speaker 4>of I mean, like Arizona's got guys that are you know,

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<v Speaker 4>actually you know, work on the staff.

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<v Speaker 2>They are supposedly gms. I think some of it and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking through my my, you know what, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'm sure that nil if Shack gives some

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<v Speaker 2>ni L to that, and the other guys give a Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not on the table, it's it's upfront, and your

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<v Speaker 2>coach is given it to you or your GM is

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<v Speaker 2>given it to you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's similar to the role Bruski fish or

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<v Speaker 3>good Point senior analyst or supervisor best friends a good

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<v Speaker 3>Point senior best friend to the head coach.

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<v Speaker 4>But then that guy you know, Woj from ESPN that

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<v Speaker 4>goes to Saint Bonaventure, he's their GM and he every

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<v Speaker 4>once in a while and will announced, hey we got

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so he seems to be working that gig.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm sure and all if you have Shack

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<v Speaker 2>is your guy and he's talking you up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>who's not gonna listen right, whether it's good or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know what he says. In fact, I

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<v Speaker 2>get to google get my next icy hot just joking.

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<v Speaker 2>Those those work, do they okay? Good for me? Good

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<v Speaker 2>to know I walked like an old dude. You know

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<v Speaker 2>I've been walking like an old dude because I would

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<v Speaker 2>all you ever had baseball, baseball, baseball being very very

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<v Speaker 2>good to me. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I also don't know if you talked about this yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>but Elijah Arenas is walking in doing better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Did did you see that video? The noo there

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<v Speaker 2>was a video of the crash. No, did it come

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<v Speaker 2>from the car? I guess because it does it take

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<v Speaker 2>from the way it looks, wasn't it? It was a

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<v Speaker 2>Tesla cyber truck crash into a tree.

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<v Speaker 3>Did not see it? Did it come out today? I

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<v Speaker 3>saw it last week or like a couple of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see it, So tell me crashing into a tree.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been guessing the battery caught fire or the engine

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. I don't know how those things work. But

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<v Speaker 3>wheels of a trash can or whatever, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>But also hit off one of the fire hydrants and

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<v Speaker 3>water was ever but he they someone local right there

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<v Speaker 3>and then they but I'm guessing possibly one of the

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<v Speaker 3>came out and knew that there was someone in the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Still got to bild him out and he was laying

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<v Speaker 3>and rolling in the water right there for for a

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<v Speaker 3>good while until the paramedics came.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So, so part of that story was he was

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<v Speaker 2>it was five o'clock in the morning, I think at

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<v Speaker 2>five o'clock in the morning, and it said that he

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<v Speaker 2>was coming from a workout. I'm thinking to my I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking to myself, who's working out at four or five, three, three,

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<v Speaker 2>four thirty in the morning. You know, well, people that

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<v Speaker 2>want to be real good, you can sleep till seven

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<v Speaker 2>or eight, you know what I'm saying. The skeptical Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>skeptics to it. Yeah, okay, no, I definitely work Google

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<v Speaker 2>Google the if you have a chance to google the

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<v Speaker 2>crash or whatever, because it was Yeah, I was definitely

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, uh, but continue with some bad baketball. You got

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<v Speaker 3>the we talked about it. The playoffs happening right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Great games last night. Oh, a great game last night.

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<v Speaker 3>But we got the Bucks and Pacers in the midst

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<v Speaker 3>of it right now, forty seven forty one Bucks at

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<v Speaker 3>the half Oay, you got the Pistons going up against

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<v Speaker 3>the Knicks at four thirty, Magic playing the Celtics at

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<v Speaker 3>five thirty, and the tides series between the Clippers and

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<v Speaker 3>Nuggets at seven.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. I've been watching that's Denver right, game five

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<v Speaker 2>and what's the two?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that those games have been great. I mean the

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<v Speaker 4>Clippers are favored by the point and a half on

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<v Speaker 4>the road.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a you're a dunk away from being up three

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<v Speaker 3>to one. So this is this is, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 3>been a great series. But I'm not sure how the

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<v Speaker 3>hold up against Oklahoma City. Yeah, after say it goes

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<v Speaker 3>seven to six.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because this game, I mean, this series will definitely

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<v Speaker 4>go six at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So you guys talked about there and Gordon play assume

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<v Speaker 4>yes they're tipping.

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<v Speaker 2>That was something else. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Staying in the NBA, Kings have named Doug Christie their

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<v Speaker 3>next head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so he's gonna stick on stay on right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was the interim after firing their their original

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<v Speaker 3>head coach. I think it was rown. Yeah, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna stick with that choice. After Damian Lillard got hurt

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<v Speaker 3>this isn't and said that, Dame said, that's not the

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<v Speaker 3>way he's going to go out. There's been a lot

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<v Speaker 3>George Kittle got extended to today with the forty nine

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<v Speaker 4>You gotta get your fantasy football who were April here?

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the horses going into the event on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's paying. And he's currently your Kentucky Derby favorite

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<v Speaker 5>But some of these horses I thought run as two

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<v Speaker 5>champion and he's currently thirty to one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that makes no sense to me, good bet, Yeah, no,

427
00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:10.440
<v Speaker 2>you never know.

428
00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:14.880
<v Speaker 5>He's Bafford, right, he is about he is one of

429
00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:17.319
<v Speaker 5>two Bafford horses in the field. He did draw the

430
00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:20.279
<v Speaker 5>one hole, so I'm not super thrilled about that, but

431
00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.880
<v Speaker 5>Bob Bafford basically said Martin Garcia has got one option

432
00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:25.119
<v Speaker 5>and he's going to have to run out of there

433
00:21:25.160 --> 00:21:28.240
<v Speaker 5>like his hair's on fire because he's got no other option.

434
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<v Speaker 5>His his one, his one big element to a race

435
00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:35.519
<v Speaker 5>is he is speed, and so he will be one

436
00:21:35.559 --> 00:21:37.920
<v Speaker 5>of about six what we call rabbits in the race

437
00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:40.160
<v Speaker 5>where they will be gun into the front and probably

438
00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:42.759
<v Speaker 5>setting some very fast fractions.

439
00:21:43.039 --> 00:21:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, he's one and the other one is a familiar name.

440
00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:49.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it has any connections to coach Rodriguez,

441
00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:50.559
<v Speaker 2>but his name is Rodriguez.

442
00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:55.799
<v Speaker 5>Yes, the four Rodriguez a lot of the same ownership connections,

443
00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:59.079
<v Speaker 5>both owned by SF Racing and Starlight Racing.

444
00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:02.119
<v Speaker 6>So kind of that the ownerships, they have two chances in.

445
00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:04.039
<v Speaker 5>The race along with Bob Affort. That seeing his first

446
00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:07.240
<v Speaker 5>derby back in about three years, Rodriguez made a pretty

447
00:22:07.279 --> 00:22:09.079
<v Speaker 5>big statement in the Wood Memorial.

448
00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:10.519
<v Speaker 6>A couple of weeks back, stepping up to a mile.

449
00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:13.079
<v Speaker 5>And eighth and again his cruising to beat is out front.

450
00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:15.200
<v Speaker 5>So I mean you have both Baffort horses looking.

451
00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:15.559
<v Speaker 6>To go out front.

452
00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:17.599
<v Speaker 5>There's a couple other horses that are also looking to

453
00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:20.319
<v Speaker 5>probably gun it right out of the gate. But I

454
00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:23.079
<v Speaker 5>mean Rodriguez gets Mike Smith aboard, and Mike Smith as

455
00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:25.160
<v Speaker 5>repeatedly says that this horse is deast distance will be

456
00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:27.079
<v Speaker 5>at a classic distance of about a mile and a quarter.

457
00:22:28.039 --> 00:22:29.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so great. I mean, this is a mile on

458
00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:32.160
<v Speaker 2>the sixteenth, what is it? I should know?

459
00:22:32.200 --> 00:22:34.279
<v Speaker 5>This Derby is a mile and a quarter. Freakness is

460
00:22:34.279 --> 00:22:37.920
<v Speaker 5>a mile and three sixteenth, and the Belmont this year

461
00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:39.279
<v Speaker 5>will be a mile and a quarter and then we.

462
00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:40.720
<v Speaker 6>Should be back to a mile and a half the

463
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<v Speaker 6>next couple of year.

464
00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I misspoken. I knew that. I knew that. Okay,

465
00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:46.440
<v Speaker 2>so we've talked about someone. We'll go back to journalism

466
00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:49.119
<v Speaker 2>in a little bit. But and you know, I like

467
00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:54.039
<v Speaker 2>that horse a lot. There's sovereignty, there's there's publisher. If

468
00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:57.759
<v Speaker 2>you're you know, into into journalism and publisher in the

469
00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:01.039
<v Speaker 2>same line, whatever, tell me about those two.

470
00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:05.279
<v Speaker 5>So journalism he is. There's a reason this horse is

471
00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:09.200
<v Speaker 5>the top top of the list. He is what people

472
00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:12.839
<v Speaker 5>have been calling poetry in motion. As a rider, you

473
00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:14.920
<v Speaker 5>look for a horse that you just have to kind

474
00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:16.359
<v Speaker 5>of sit there and you feel like you're floating on

475
00:23:16.400 --> 00:23:18.519
<v Speaker 5>a on a cloud, or you're just on a giant

476
00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:21.400
<v Speaker 5>rocking horse and you watch Alan Bert to riskily, his

477
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:23.319
<v Speaker 5>jockey rides him and he just kind of sits there

478
00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:25.920
<v Speaker 5>and journalism does it all, and he's just it's a

479
00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:29.880
<v Speaker 5>very fluid motion. He's very connected, and he's only getting

480
00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:33.000
<v Speaker 5>better with distance, and so everyone has to imagine that

481
00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:34.559
<v Speaker 5>a mile and a quarter is only going to be

482
00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:37.759
<v Speaker 5>better for him. As he continued to pass horses in

483
00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:39.160
<v Speaker 5>sant Anita Derby.

484
00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:39.799
<v Speaker 6>Going a mile and a eight.

485
00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.039
<v Speaker 5>And he had some experience with a longer stretch at

486
00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:46.799
<v Speaker 5>Lost Alamados when he won the Grade to Lost Alamados Futurity.

487
00:23:46.880 --> 00:23:49.559
<v Speaker 5>That stretch is a very long stretch. Obviously, that setup

488
00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:52.519
<v Speaker 5>is very different than Churchill. He was schooling in the

489
00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:55.119
<v Speaker 5>paddock today. My understanding is he's handled it all very well.

490
00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:58.319
<v Speaker 5>He came out of his work on Sunday in great shape.

491
00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:01.279
<v Speaker 5>Wasn't a super hard hard work, but again it was

492
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:04.519
<v Speaker 5>just it was very easy and he was very calm

493
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:07.359
<v Speaker 5>and collected and just acting very very professional.

494
00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:11.480
<v Speaker 4>Did I hear there could be some weather issues, some

495
00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:12.359
<v Speaker 4>rain problems.

496
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:16.920
<v Speaker 5>There is some weather potentially coming in. It looks like

497
00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:19.640
<v Speaker 5>Friday will probably have the most amount of weather, and

498
00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:22.680
<v Speaker 5>then Saturday is supposed to be okay, but depending on

499
00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:26.400
<v Speaker 5>how much rain does hit the track on Friday will

500
00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:30.559
<v Speaker 5>affect track conditions. So looking for a horse that's not

501
00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:33.960
<v Speaker 5>offended by some mud or maybe a sloppier track or

502
00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:38.400
<v Speaker 5>a field track is pretty key. Journalism has not been

503
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:40.759
<v Speaker 5>tried on anything other than a fast track, so that's

504
00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:43.920
<v Speaker 5>kind of the only question mark with him as if

505
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:48.319
<v Speaker 5>he would take However, he is by Curlin, that's a

506
00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:51.440
<v Speaker 5>Hall of Famer horse, a Horse of the Year, So

507
00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:53.799
<v Speaker 5>I mean he's got he's bred to do this. This

508
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:55.039
<v Speaker 5>is what he's bred to do, is to go.

509
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:55.839
<v Speaker 6>This mile in a quarterer.

510
00:24:56.160 --> 00:24:59.359
<v Speaker 2>So I got up this morning and listen to the

511
00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Efendl pre you know today's Today's Breakfast show. Yeah, the

512
00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Breakfast Show with the with the three year of black

513
00:25:06.119 --> 00:25:09.200
<v Speaker 2>and who the other two which they talked to highly

514
00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:13.720
<v Speaker 2>of obviously Journalism and some of the others. But who's

515
00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:15.960
<v Speaker 2>the girl that I thought was very impressive at this

516
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:18.319
<v Speaker 2>the the I think she's Asian?

517
00:25:19.920 --> 00:25:20.920
<v Speaker 5>Oh Andy bean Comb.

518
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:23.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she loved the way he looked today, Uh and

519
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:25.960
<v Speaker 2>just feels today on a Tuesday, you know that could

520
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:27.039
<v Speaker 2>be different on a Saturday.

521
00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:30.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, and he's got a real eye for horses.

522
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.200
<v Speaker 5>But like I said, everyone is talking about this horse,

523
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:36.880
<v Speaker 5>and there's a reason he's the favorite. I felt last

524
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:39.759
<v Speaker 5>year's favorite was very I thought he was pretty solid

525
00:25:39.799 --> 00:25:42.400
<v Speaker 5>as early on. He ran second by and knows we've

526
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:45.880
<v Speaker 5>had the Derby Choice run second two years in a row,

527
00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:47.559
<v Speaker 5>so we're hoping to get the winner this year. But

528
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:50.240
<v Speaker 5>I do feel like Journalism is probably the best bet

529
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:53.039
<v Speaker 5>for it, just given the way he's been running, how

530
00:25:53.039 --> 00:25:55.400
<v Speaker 5>professionally he's done everything. And in his last race, he

531
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:58.880
<v Speaker 5>had a lot of adversity. In that race, he literally

532
00:25:58.880 --> 00:26:00.960
<v Speaker 5>got pinned in against the he had to work his

533
00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:03.039
<v Speaker 5>way around. He did get bobbled up a little bit,

534
00:26:03.200 --> 00:26:06.000
<v Speaker 5>and he only exploded coming through the turn and was

535
00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:08.240
<v Speaker 5>only hitting his best stride as he crossed the wire.

536
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:10.920
<v Speaker 5>So I mean, if he's hitting his best ride as

537
00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:14.359
<v Speaker 5>he's crossing the wire at Santa Anita, he's got almost

538
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:17.079
<v Speaker 5>a furlong and a half to two furlongs in front

539
00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:19.480
<v Speaker 5>of him still when he gets to Churchill, so he

540
00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:21.160
<v Speaker 5>should only be hitting his best dride by the time

541
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:22.000
<v Speaker 5>he hits milm and eight.

542
00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:25.160
<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you, So Dave brought up the weather.

543
00:26:25.880 --> 00:26:28.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know this because it's hard to find mudders

544
00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:32.240
<v Speaker 2>in races, So tell me, is that legit? I mean,

545
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:34.240
<v Speaker 2>if they've never run in mud, how do you know

546
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:36.559
<v Speaker 2>they are mudder or not because you just have a

547
00:26:36.640 --> 00:26:37.039
<v Speaker 2>run in it.

548
00:26:38.200 --> 00:26:40.240
<v Speaker 5>So a lot of that could be related to pedigree.

549
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:45.039
<v Speaker 5>There are certain sires that are known for having mud horses,

550
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:47.319
<v Speaker 5>that are known for having horses that.

551
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:47.960
<v Speaker 6>Love the mud.

552
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:50.359
<v Speaker 5>Arrogate is one of those. You've the Gray loved the

553
00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:54.480
<v Speaker 5>mud on Preakness Day last year. Spicetown is another. Is

554
00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:57.799
<v Speaker 5>another sire that his folds for whatever reason, seemed to

555
00:26:57.839 --> 00:26:59.559
<v Speaker 5>run really well on the mud. So some of it

556
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.319
<v Speaker 5>there is a pedigree related No curling seemed to do

557
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:04.640
<v Speaker 5>okay on it. I think a lot of it is

558
00:27:04.680 --> 00:27:07.720
<v Speaker 5>depending on how their trip goes, how much kickback they

559
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:08.200
<v Speaker 5>might get.

560
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, some.

561
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:10.839
<v Speaker 5>Horses just don't like getting hit in the face of mud,

562
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 5>which is completely understandable. It's not a fun experience. But

563
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 5>there's just there's that certain aspect of breeding that does

564
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:20.839
<v Speaker 5>come into play. But like I said, I think the

565
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:23.920
<v Speaker 5>track will could very well be wet on Saturday, could

566
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:25.519
<v Speaker 5>be a little heavy. I don't think it's going to

567
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:29.440
<v Speaker 5>be nice sloppy because they're going to by the time

568
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.839
<v Speaker 5>the jerby comes around at about almost four o'clock, it

569
00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:36.559
<v Speaker 5>should be pretty well dried out and worked through from

570
00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:37.559
<v Speaker 5>the track crew.

571
00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:40.640
<v Speaker 2>So I was watching today, Like I said, I saw

572
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:43.680
<v Speaker 2>the show. Then what's a couple of the first three races?

573
00:27:44.440 --> 00:27:46.599
<v Speaker 2>Try to build up my bank in the third race,

574
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.759
<v Speaker 2>I think the favorite one. I eight the five and

575
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I had that. So the track is said to be

576
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:54.839
<v Speaker 2>going fast or you know speed.

577
00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, a fast track is typically speed on the front

578
00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.640
<v Speaker 5>end is playing well, but fast tracks can also be

579
00:28:02.680 --> 00:28:06.039
<v Speaker 5>pretty fair. If the way that they're harrowed or graded

580
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 5>or how deep they are, closers can still come. They

581
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 5>show up, they will run well. And we have quite

582
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:14.839
<v Speaker 5>a few closers in the derby this year between Sandman

583
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:17.680
<v Speaker 5>and Sovereignty and Chunk of Gold, and there's a couple

584
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.400
<v Speaker 5>others in there that are definitely will be in the

585
00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 5>second and third flight of horses that shouldn't have a

586
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:27.079
<v Speaker 5>problem closing at the track is rated fast by the

587
00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:30.160
<v Speaker 5>time the derby rolls around, David.

588
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Think no, I was just going to say it's again.

589
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:33.680
<v Speaker 4>We always have the u of a contingent to watch

590
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:36.599
<v Speaker 4>for with Pletcher there and Baffort as well. They both

591
00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:40.200
<v Speaker 4>have what two horses each, So that's I believe.

592
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:44.759
<v Speaker 6>Pletcher only has the one, which would be Grande, the

593
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:46.720
<v Speaker 6>number ten horse for the Rapoli team.

594
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:50.599
<v Speaker 5>He last ran second in the Wood Memorial behind Rodriguez,

595
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:54.279
<v Speaker 5>and then Baffort has the one in the FOURG and

596
00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:55.720
<v Speaker 5>Citizen Bowl and Rodriguez.

597
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.680
<v Speaker 4>What okay, So Journalism is the favorite. If I were

598
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.079
<v Speaker 4>to go lay some money down, who would you who

599
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:05.079
<v Speaker 4>would you suggest maybe I look at to be, you know,

600
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:07.000
<v Speaker 4>the upset winner or something like that.

601
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.759
<v Speaker 5>The second choice or the next horse that I would

602
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:13.880
<v Speaker 5>end up looking at would be the eighteen sovereignty For

603
00:29:13.960 --> 00:29:17.119
<v Speaker 5>Bill Mott, this horse is getting his preferred rider, Junior

604
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.880
<v Speaker 5>Alvarado back aboard. He ran second in the Florida Derby.

605
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.960
<v Speaker 5>He ran a monster race in the Fountain of Youth

606
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:26.440
<v Speaker 5>at Goldstream. Again, a horse that's going to be hitting

607
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.519
<v Speaker 5>his best stride as they turned for home. He needs

608
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.680
<v Speaker 5>that long stretch, he needs more distance to be able

609
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:36.480
<v Speaker 5>to get to his best stride, and that mile of

610
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 5>the quarter is really going to offer it again. He's

611
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:42.680
<v Speaker 5>into mischief, and these into mischief horses, they are just

612
00:29:42.759 --> 00:29:45.079
<v Speaker 5>incredible this year they have been performing at a super

613
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 5>high performance rate. I mean, Citizen Bowl is also an

614
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 5>into mischief and obviously we saw what he did as

615
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 5>a two year old, so a lot to be said.

616
00:29:54.119 --> 00:29:56.400
<v Speaker 5>His numbers are. He did regress a little bit in

617
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.160
<v Speaker 5>the Florida Derby, but there could be some excuse is

618
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 5>made for him there if we were looking for them.

619
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.200
<v Speaker 6>But he's definitely a horse is only going to improve with.

620
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>What horse eighteen sovereignty o soeverigine. Okay, So I was

621
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:11.119
<v Speaker 2>just going to say that, what about you haven't mentioned

622
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:12.359
<v Speaker 2>although I mentioned him earlier.

623
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:16.119
<v Speaker 5>Publisher Publishers are really interesting.

624
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:17.640
<v Speaker 6>Horse draws the thirteen hole.

625
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.920
<v Speaker 5>He actually draws just inside of his uh barn mate

626
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:26.759
<v Speaker 5>Histastic and his Tastic won the Louisiana Derby and Publisher

627
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.160
<v Speaker 5>ran second in the Arkansas Derby. Now, I feel like

628
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:31.519
<v Speaker 5>the Arkansas form this year has held up a little

629
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.839
<v Speaker 5>bit better than the Louisiana form. I don't think the

630
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.880
<v Speaker 5>Louisiana Fairgrounds trail to the Derby was nearly as difficult

631
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:40.640
<v Speaker 5>as the Arkansas form. We saw baffordship out several horses

632
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:43.640
<v Speaker 5>to Arkansas throughout the Derby trail, and so I feel

633
00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:45.920
<v Speaker 5>like those horses have had a much higher level of

634
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.960
<v Speaker 5>competition coming in today and they're seeing a lot of

635
00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:51.920
<v Speaker 5>each other again if they've gone through Arkansas. So Publisher

636
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.359
<v Speaker 5>is interesting because he's still considered a maiden.

637
00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:55.599
<v Speaker 6>He has not won a race.

638
00:30:56.519 --> 00:30:58.440
<v Speaker 5>He's had seven starts, but he has not won a

639
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<v Speaker 5>race this year alone. He's had three starts and he's

640
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<v Speaker 5>run second and that sec that last second came in

641
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<v Speaker 5>the Arkansas Derby.

642
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<v Speaker 6>But he's been improving.

643
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 5>His numbers have been improving. Where he's finishing has been improving.

644
00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:13.720
<v Speaker 5>He gets Irad Ortis, and Irad is known for having

645
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<v Speaker 5>a very aggressive ride, and this is a horse that

646
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.319
<v Speaker 5>they have said maybe needs a little bit more of

647
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:24.359
<v Speaker 5>an aggressive ride when in the afternoons watching his last work,

648
00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:26.279
<v Speaker 5>he was very aggressive in the morning. They've added the

649
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:29.079
<v Speaker 5>blinkers now in the afternoons and the mornings, and that's

650
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:29.839
<v Speaker 5>helped wake him.

651
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<v Speaker 2>Up a little bit.

652
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.480
<v Speaker 5>It's helped make him more focused and just more concentrated

653
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:34.960
<v Speaker 5>on what his job is, and so he's a little

654
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 5>bit more amped. But this is a horse again that's

655
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<v Speaker 5>probably going to be in the second or third flight

656
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:40.960
<v Speaker 5>of horses are kind of that in between because I

657
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 5>think we're going to have a huge stretch out of

658
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:46.240
<v Speaker 5>who's in front versus who's come and wave behind, just

659
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<v Speaker 5>because of the speed that's in this race.

660
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<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you, so we know the Journalism

661
00:31:52.599 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 2>is a favorite, who's the second favorite. I haven't really

662
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:57.519
<v Speaker 2>looked at the odds yet because it's only Tuesday.

663
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:01.359
<v Speaker 5>It should be Sober at five to one, and then

664
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:04.960
<v Speaker 5>your third choice should be Stanman. That's seventeen at sixty one.

665
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 5>Tool Sandman is your Arkansas Derby winner.

666
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh so you're looking at the possibility of a nice

667
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:12.599
<v Speaker 2>ticket even if the first two favorites come in.

668
00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:18.559
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so Sovereignty and Journalism if you want to box

669
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<v Speaker 5>them or flip flop them, or however you want to

670
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<v Speaker 5>bet it. I mean Journalism I think goes down to

671
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:26.440
<v Speaker 5>about five to two, and I think Sovereignty holds between.

672
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:27.799
<v Speaker 6>Five to one and six to one. I think those

673
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 6>are very.

674
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<v Speaker 5>Realistic odds form based on his last two performances. Standman.

675
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<v Speaker 5>If you want to go out to a third choice,

676
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:37.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean, there's nothing wrong with the numbers on paper,

677
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:40.039
<v Speaker 5>but if you go back and watch his races, he

678
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.160
<v Speaker 5>just seems to find trouble each time he comes out.

679
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.319
<v Speaker 5>He just seems to be green, and there's always something

680
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.319
<v Speaker 5>news that they're trying to work forward. In the Arkansas Derby,

681
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 5>he got a great trip and as he's coming down

682
00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:54.440
<v Speaker 5>the lane, he jumped the tractor marks that were on

683
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 5>the track and just started to float all the way around.

684
00:32:57.079 --> 00:32:58.519
<v Speaker 5>They were saying he was scared of the whip, but

685
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:01.079
<v Speaker 5>he was just kind of floating everywhere, which is what

686
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:04.440
<v Speaker 5>a very green horse should do. Now he's had eight starts.

687
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 6>In his life and he's had three wins.

688
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 5>A horse like that should not be as green as

689
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:11.279
<v Speaker 5>he should be coming into the Derby. Now, his trainer,

690
00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 5>Mark Cathie thinks he's worked through it. He's got Jose

691
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 5>Ortiz a board, the brother to Irad Ortiz Junior, and so.

692
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:19.200
<v Speaker 6>I mean it could be fine, Like.

693
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<v Speaker 5>He could absolutely run a monster race as well. He's

694
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<v Speaker 5>another deep closer, So she'll be in that third group

695
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:27.000
<v Speaker 5>in the way back with sovereignty at eighteen, hoping for

696
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 5>a pace breakdown where he's able to close and start

697
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:32.200
<v Speaker 5>to make a big five for long move a little

698
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<v Speaker 5>bit more than a half a mile. For people that

699
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:36.599
<v Speaker 5>don't know what purlongs are, one for long is equal

700
00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 5>to an eighth of a mile, and four forur Longs

701
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:41.880
<v Speaker 5>is equal to a half, so five eighths of a mile.

702
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<v Speaker 5>They're going to make this big move coming around the

703
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:45.880
<v Speaker 5>turn and run for home, and the biggest thing is

704
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:47.200
<v Speaker 5>going to be who's in their way and can they

705
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<v Speaker 5>get the outside of horses?

706
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 4>Dave, you have something I was just gonna say, journalism

707
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:55.000
<v Speaker 4>is a three to one. I was reading where the

708
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.039
<v Speaker 4>morning line favorite has not won this that since twenty

709
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<v Speaker 4>eighteen years.

710
00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there is second the last couple years a while.

711
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<v Speaker 6>Yes, it has.

712
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:06.720
<v Speaker 5>Been a while since we have seen a favorite when

713
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 5>the derby and mean going. And what I think is

714
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:13.519
<v Speaker 5>more crucial to look at is ever since rich Strike

715
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 5>You're twenty twenty wonder twenty two?

716
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was in last year?

717
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 5>Was mystic Dan?

718
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Was so let me to give you the did

719
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:27.519
<v Speaker 2>you give you the rich Riches? The richest son was

720
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:29.880
<v Speaker 2>it Riches? Rich Strike? So I was in Gulf Stream

721
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 2>with a bunch of relatives. We flew out to Miami

722
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.719
<v Speaker 2>to watch it at Gulf Stream and agree with you know,

723
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.079
<v Speaker 2>a nice table blah blah blah. So my aunt, my

724
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:40.960
<v Speaker 2>aunt has a son in law named rich So she said, oh,

725
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.159
<v Speaker 2>that's cute. Okay, So she put five bucks on it.

726
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:46.039
<v Speaker 2>It was an eighty two to one long shot and

727
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:48.239
<v Speaker 2>it paid her five hundred and some dollars because it

728
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>was a longish shot on the board for five bucks. Yeah,

729
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you like, if you like a name,

730
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:55.679
<v Speaker 2>put that five bucks on it.

731
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:58.000
<v Speaker 5>Well, it could be a name, it could be a

732
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 5>celebrity connection. Flying Mohawk, who's in the Derby this year,

733
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:04.920
<v Speaker 5>is owned by Jason Wirz, who owned door Knock last year.

734
00:35:04.960 --> 00:35:06.800
<v Speaker 5>Doorknock then went on to win the Grade one Belmont

735
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:09.320
<v Speaker 5>and Grade one Halsel. So Jason Worth is back and

736
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:12.039
<v Speaker 5>he's been a huge supporter of the sport and horse

737
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.119
<v Speaker 5>racing and trying to get people involved in it. And

738
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 5>then the other one, the fifteen render judgment is this

739
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:21.000
<v Speaker 5>horse originally wasn't going to run in the derby and

740
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 5>the ownership outloaded the trainer and said no, we're going

741
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:25.159
<v Speaker 5>to run in the derby. And the story behind it

742
00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:27.960
<v Speaker 5>is is this was actually Toby Keiths last horse that

743
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 5>he was a part of breeding and owning before he

744
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.760
<v Speaker 5>passed away. And so the idea is is this is

745
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:33.800
<v Speaker 5>Toby's Derby.

746
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:34.800
<v Speaker 6>That they're going to run with this horse.

747
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 5>So There are so many different stories and connections the

748
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.880
<v Speaker 5>horses that you could follow, whether it's job related, color related, celebrity. However,

749
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 5>if you have a lucky number, you have one through

750
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 5>twenty to pick from, so there's definitely a lot of

751
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:49.360
<v Speaker 5>angles to choose.

752
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 2>This might be a dumb question, but doesn't Belichick cavil

753
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Hort didn't? Is Het kind of in this business too?

754
00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:54.800
<v Speaker 11>Or no?

755
00:35:56.000 --> 00:36:00.239
<v Speaker 5>He's been working on and off with Micropoli, Todd Pletcher team.

756
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:02.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if he's officially bought into horses yet.

757
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:04.320
<v Speaker 5>I do you know he wasn't golf stream at one

758
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:08.039
<v Speaker 5>point this winner looking at horses. So I mean Tom

759
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:12.639
<v Speaker 5>Brady's own horses, uh with micro Polly and Travis Kelsey's

760
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 5>owned horses. So there's the world of sports is all

761
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:18.320
<v Speaker 5>connected to horse racing, right though.

762
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:19.800
<v Speaker 2>The reason I asked is maybe you should name a

763
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:21.159
<v Speaker 2>horse relationship issues?

764
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:26.039
<v Speaker 5>Did I did see that interview?

765
00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to talk about that. We're not finding

766
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:29.039
<v Speaker 6>me about that.

767
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.559
<v Speaker 2>How many times if you see a guy who has

768
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 2>the that pedigree of being a coach being told twenty

769
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:37.119
<v Speaker 2>four he's not talking about that, yeah, talking about you're

770
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:37.639
<v Speaker 2>not talking.

771
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:39.639
<v Speaker 5>About that, But you see mad about it, but he

772
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:40.440
<v Speaker 5>just moved on.

773
00:36:40.599 --> 00:36:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Right right, Well, I did bum Phillips and I saw

774
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:44.400
<v Speaker 2>him at the Breaders when I was out there with

775
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:50.480
<v Speaker 2>you guys. Uh, he's a horse owner, guy who bum phillips.

776
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Bum phillips. The old football coaches, the old football coach. Yeah,

777
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 2>he's the USFL too. No, no Phillip, what I say,

778
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:01.719
<v Speaker 2>bump Yeah yeah yeah Wade Field? So sorry, yeah, So

779
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:04.239
<v Speaker 2>what about the Bafford return? Right, this is his return to.

780
00:37:05.079 --> 00:37:09.280
<v Speaker 5>Conentucku, his return ever since his suspension due to the

781
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:13.000
<v Speaker 5>Medina's spirit testing positive. He seems pretty happy to be

782
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:17.320
<v Speaker 5>out at Churchill Downs. He has I think between ten

783
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:19.280
<v Speaker 5>and fifteen horses out there that are going to run

784
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.840
<v Speaker 5>this week alone, not this Friday and Saturday. He's got

785
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:24.800
<v Speaker 5>ten months. Who's in the oaks as well? She kind

786
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:27.800
<v Speaker 5>of swept the whole division out here in California for

787
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.159
<v Speaker 5>the girls. She's definitely not the favorite in there. She's

788
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:34.639
<v Speaker 5>not my top selection, but the lift in his suspension

789
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:36.599
<v Speaker 5>has definitely led him to bring a.

790
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:37.639
<v Speaker 6>Whole flue horses.

791
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:41.239
<v Speaker 5>If you might recall the name Nisos, who was originally

792
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 5>the Kentucky Derby favorite last year in about February to March.

793
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:47.280
<v Speaker 5>Unfortunately he was sidelined with an issue. He's making his

794
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:51.599
<v Speaker 5>return on Saturday in the I believe it's the Grade

795
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 5>two Churchill Down Stakes, and that's the loaded field. Like

796
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.159
<v Speaker 5>that is a huge statement for Bob Bafford to come

797
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:00.360
<v Speaker 5>back and put a horse like that, of that caliber,

798
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:03.280
<v Speaker 5>that was supposed to be a Derby horse into a

799
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:04.679
<v Speaker 5>stakes race on Derby Day.

800
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. In fact, the our local I'm gonna ask you

801
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.719
<v Speaker 2>for your choice in a second here, but our guys

802
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.800
<v Speaker 2>white Man and Watson have a couple of horses in

803
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:15.000
<v Speaker 2>here on Saturday.

804
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:15.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

805
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.920
<v Speaker 5>Well, they are sending Gaming in the Pat Day Mile.

806
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.320
<v Speaker 5>That should be really fun. Gaming ran second in the Juvenile.

807
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:24.039
<v Speaker 5>He unfortunately had a couple of troubled trips and then

808
00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:26.960
<v Speaker 5>they sent him back to Arkansas. He got a clean trip,

809
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:29.639
<v Speaker 5>he ran second. Hopefully that was a confidence booster, and

810
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:31.679
<v Speaker 5>so they're going to now send him in the Pat

811
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:34.559
<v Speaker 5>Day Mile, which is a Grade two I believe, on

812
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:35.360
<v Speaker 5>Derby Day.

813
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:36.800
<v Speaker 6>So that should also be very exciting.

814
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:39.159
<v Speaker 5>So, like I said, Bob Bafford is very well represented

815
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:41.800
<v Speaker 5>not just in the Derby but the entire week leading

816
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:42.280
<v Speaker 5>up to it.

817
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:44.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Okay, So finally, what do you have? What do

818
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 2>you have?

819
00:38:46.239 --> 00:38:48.760
<v Speaker 5>I'm sticking with journalism. I mean, like it's just it's

820
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 5>too appropriate, not too he drew a perfect post. I've

821
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:54.400
<v Speaker 5>gotten to watch him. He's just he's an incredible horse.

822
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:56.239
<v Speaker 6>He's just us poetry, emotion.

823
00:38:56.360 --> 00:39:00.119
<v Speaker 5>And I really hope the Riskily and Michael McCarthy's this

824
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 5>is their best shot. They had endlessly last year. Unfortunately

825
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 5>that didn't go quite as they had hoped. But this,

826
00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.800
<v Speaker 5>this horse is fantastic, and he's got just a heart

827
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:12.360
<v Speaker 5>of a lion, hearted a champion, and he's obvious. He's

828
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:14.800
<v Speaker 5>just the way you watch him run after the sant

829
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:17.800
<v Speaker 5>Anita Derby like he knew he knew it was game time.

830
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, D, thanks a bunch. Be well, see you soon.

831
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<v Speaker 2>Thanks guys, Right, take care. I was D my former

832
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<v Speaker 2>intern who's now with Vandel and she knows her stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she'sa yeah. Yeah. So let's take a break and come

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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rovera on

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to Win the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Riverta. You or Dave Silver.

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<v Speaker 2>We got one of controls. We got about ten minutes,

904
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<v Speaker 2>maybe nine minutes one seven seven of fifty two fifty three.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, what time to go lay some bets on the Yeah,

906
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<v Speaker 4>Kentucky's two early right now, but you could do that.

907
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<v Speaker 2>I mean if I were you do it on your phone,

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<v Speaker 2>you can, but it's too early. Still start trying this

909
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<v Speaker 2>because it's just haven't set it up. You know, you

910
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<v Speaker 2>could do it on other other other races, but not

911
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:48.920
<v Speaker 2>on that one. So you know when it comes time.

912
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<v Speaker 2>Many if you're on Fandle the one she's on. Uh,

913
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 2>you can bet ten bucks to ten bucks on the

914
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<v Speaker 2>winter and if they don't win, you get money back.

915
00:43:57.800 --> 00:43:59.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's a ten dollars free bet, all right. So

916
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:01.679
<v Speaker 2>if they win, you're good. If you lose, you're good

917
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.039
<v Speaker 2>to just give it back to you. They just want

918
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<v Speaker 2>to be part They want you to be part of

919
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<v Speaker 2>their system. Right yeah, so then later you can bet

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<v Speaker 2>more money. Welcome back, Yeah yeah, we'll come back. I

921
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<v Speaker 2>get some other stuff. You get twenty five dollars free. Yeah.

922
00:44:14.840 --> 00:44:18.679
<v Speaker 2>When's the NFL season start? Right? Right? Right? Right? So

923
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<v Speaker 2>one I like journalism a lot, so do you? And

924
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:27.280
<v Speaker 2>maybe it'll pay hopefully. Yeah, right, that's the goal. Yeah,

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00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.239
<v Speaker 2>anybody want to call. We have about seven minutes maybe

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<v Speaker 2>five to zero, four, one, six, seventy four forty Jim,

927
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<v Speaker 2>if you want to call, I got your message. Like

928
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:37.920
<v Speaker 2>we talked about that, that's not a big deal. Uh,

929
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<v Speaker 2>in today's basketball world, what's going on? Wether then that

930
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Pima Pema baseball is doing really well. Softball is doing

931
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 2>really well. Maybe want to come back next week, have

932
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:51.679
<v Speaker 2>them on the show again, because they're doing really well.

933
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:55.000
<v Speaker 2>People used to be an afrothat Dave. Now it's not

934
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<v Speaker 2>so much. Well they're having such great success.

935
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, look what both those basketball teams did this

936
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<v Speaker 4>or how fun they were to kind of follow that,

937
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, in the years past, you know, if they

938
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<v Speaker 4>weren't good, there wasn't a whole lot of buzz. But

939
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<v Speaker 4>since they were so good and yeah, you wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>keep track right right? Isn't that how that usually goes?

941
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<v Speaker 8>Though?

942
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<v Speaker 2>You win, baby win, just keep yeah, good looking, you're popular.

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<v Speaker 2>Free drinks, free drinks, right right right till you're not

944
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<v Speaker 2>that way. The world's good. I mean, it's good to

945
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<v Speaker 2>see PEMA, especially.

946
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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's so many local players, so many most

947
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<v Speaker 4>rushed the teams, especially with baseball and softball or like

948
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<v Speaker 4>you know, seventy five percent or from Tucson. So it's

949
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<v Speaker 4>given them a good chance to play and continue to play. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, maybe they'll play at the Division one

951
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<v Speaker 4>level after you know, having success at here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, and that happens every now and again. I

953
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<v Speaker 2>mean they're getting recruited just not to hear, and they're

954
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<v Speaker 2>going to the schools an the IA Division two, Division one.

955
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah in some cases.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I know when we were talking to Rebecca Kiros,

957
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:00.159
<v Speaker 4>their coach, a couple of weeks ago, and she was

958
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<v Speaker 4>just saying, well, that's the selling point is you know

959
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<v Speaker 4>you can play here in front of your family and

960
00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:09.039
<v Speaker 4>friends still and get an education and still set yourself

961
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<v Speaker 4>up for a chance to maybe go D one somewhere, right,

962
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<v Speaker 4>Because those are the teams here in Arizona especially are

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<v Speaker 4>hotbeds for women's soft off Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Oh, let me have some kind of breaking news

965
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.519
<v Speaker 2>in a sense. So that nickname that I said for

966
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<v Speaker 2>the soccer team that was in the previous life of

967
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:29.039
<v Speaker 2>the f C two when they were pros. So Johnny

968
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<v Speaker 2>says that we don't have one yet. We have toyed

969
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<v Speaker 2>with the Desert Foxes and the Habilinas.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I could get a behind a team called the Hailinas,

971
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:43.559
<v Speaker 3>the f C two son Habilinas. I feel like it's original.

972
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:47.480
<v Speaker 3>It's uh home to Tucson.

973
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<v Speaker 2>What do you make a little what do you call

974
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<v Speaker 2>the food Gironas? Yeah, I think from Hallolleena. I don't know.

975
00:46:57.119 --> 00:46:59.840
<v Speaker 2>I've never happened that. Yeah, I've heard people. I put

976
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:04.679
<v Speaker 2>pictures of Helena and they said, oh, Nash, I never

977
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<v Speaker 2>eat that. Okay tough meat now yeah, yeah, okay, uh, yes,

978
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<v Speaker 2>Well have Alena's Foxes. But I guess the the other

979
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.159
<v Speaker 2>name I said that, I want to see it again

980
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.599
<v Speaker 2>because it used to be associated with the son maybe

981
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:19.840
<v Speaker 2>the pro teams back in the.

982
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:23.239
<v Speaker 4>Day we did have the Tucson have Alena's baseball team

983
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:25.400
<v Speaker 4>in the airs in a fall league.

984
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, back in the day. The only reason I.

985
00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:32.400
<v Speaker 4>Can remember that is that k GUN sponsored the game

986
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:33.639
<v Speaker 4>where Michael Jordan came to.

987
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Tucson and played.

988
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, and so I was given the chance to

989
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:38.079
<v Speaker 4>interview who was a coach.

990
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Remember francon Gry Francona. I didn't remember that until I

991
00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 2>saw it on the thirty for thirty thing. Yeah.

992
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:47.079
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, he played for Francona Birmingham and then then

993
00:47:47.079 --> 00:47:48.320
<v Speaker 4>he played for him here.

994
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:49.840
<v Speaker 2>But we had a chance.

995
00:47:49.880 --> 00:47:51.280
<v Speaker 4>It was one of the you know, people ask me, well,

996
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:53.119
<v Speaker 4>what was some of the better interviews and most exciting,

997
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:54.559
<v Speaker 4>So we had a chance to. I had a chance

998
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:56.559
<v Speaker 4>to go up there and interview Jordan, just me and

999
00:47:57.000 --> 00:47:58.880
<v Speaker 4>it was baseball and he did it. Yeah, it was

1000
00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:00.280
<v Speaker 4>in a spring shot. It was it a airs in

1001
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:01.840
<v Speaker 4>a fall league game. In Scott's day, this had to

1002
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:04.960
<v Speaker 4>be like ninety sixish before that, even thirty four.

1003
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<v Speaker 2>Play playing baseball.

1004
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 4>So they had already won the ninety three finals, so

1005
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:15.159
<v Speaker 4>maybe in ninety four, ninety five, yeah, six in basketball.

1006
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:18.079
<v Speaker 4>So that was the Tucson Avelina's I kind of remember

1007
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<v Speaker 4>the rest in Peace.

1008
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, now they have the Tucson Suarrows. I think

1009
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:24.320
<v Speaker 2>it is they're still around. Yeah, I think so, because yeah,

1010
00:48:24.320 --> 00:48:27.400
<v Speaker 2>it's the peckless league baseball thing. Yeah, I mean that

1011
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't last long they were.

1012
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean it was kind of a shame because again

1013
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:33.119
<v Speaker 4>it was similar to what we faced with with spring training,

1014
00:48:33.119 --> 00:48:35.320
<v Speaker 4>where teams just didn't want to come down here. You know,

1015
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:38.320
<v Speaker 4>in the middle of winter. There wasn't a great crowd necessarily.

1016
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:40.079
<v Speaker 4>But you know, I think if you look at the

1017
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:42.039
<v Speaker 4>rosters and some of the players had come through there,

1018
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 4>there's tons of major leaguers.

1019
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, you just don't know it until you know.

1020
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:47.000
<v Speaker 4>Derek Jeter, I'm pretty sure played in the airs in

1021
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:47.519
<v Speaker 4>a fall league.

1022
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, no, I think they're trying to do

1023
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 2>something with that too locally eventually maybe could be good. Yeah,

1024
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:57.280
<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes, we're trying to get some stuff going

1025
00:48:57.320 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 2>on here. Yeah, of course from the south of the board,

1026
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<v Speaker 2>right when I'm all that, possibly, yeah, yeah, all that

1027
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:04.880
<v Speaker 2>all that. So what do you think how much that

1028
00:49:04.960 --> 00:49:09.000
<v Speaker 2>we have about three minutes? Okay, why Tuson doesn't succeed?

1029
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Is it come with a lot of pro teams in

1030
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.519
<v Speaker 2>your time, they did even in the seventies, Uh, pro volleyball,

1031
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:18.199
<v Speaker 2>pro this pro that it's just it's big enough.

1032
00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:19.079
<v Speaker 18>I don't know.

1033
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<v Speaker 4>We've always been in the shadow of Phoenix. That's always

1034
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:23.440
<v Speaker 4>We've always kind of been known as a minor league

1035
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:27.400
<v Speaker 4>city when it comes to sports, and you know, fans

1036
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:31.360
<v Speaker 4>here just they're coming from all over the place. They

1037
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:33.760
<v Speaker 4>don't have strong allegiances necessarily. The U of A has

1038
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:35.880
<v Speaker 4>a hard enough time getting people to come to football games.

1039
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.599
<v Speaker 4>Basketball doesn't have too much. But I think there's just

1040
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<v Speaker 4>never been you know, especially in the summer. The summer

1041
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:44.599
<v Speaker 4>is a hard cell. Let's be honest. Yeah, sit out

1042
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:48.079
<v Speaker 4>there and sure in August and July. Sure, sure, No,

1043
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<v Speaker 4>the one we gotta call. Okay, call hello.

1044
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<v Speaker 2>You're on the air and I on the ball. Who's this? Hello? Hello?

1045
00:49:57.880 --> 00:49:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Who's this? I see it?

1046
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<v Speaker 18>It's yeah, Hey, Jim, Hey, I was just wondering if

1047
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:12.159
<v Speaker 18>I could get some takes, including yours on LeBell and

1048
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:18.239
<v Speaker 18>James as a basketball player, be his impact on sports,

1049
00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:21.559
<v Speaker 18>see the impact on the culture.

1050
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a big pan we have. The thing is, Jim,

1051
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<v Speaker 2>now we only have a minute, minute and a half,

1052
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<v Speaker 2>minute and a half. That's way too much. Do me

1053
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<v Speaker 2>a favorite comedy on Monday, and we'll talk about this

1054
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<v Speaker 2>because God, I don't even know where to start. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know what to storry. He's been paying in

1056
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<v Speaker 2>the league for twenty two years now, he's the forty Yeah,

1057
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<v Speaker 2>twenty two years. God, he's had an impact on the

1058
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<v Speaker 2>this generation. Did Jim send me a question because I

1059
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<v Speaker 2>have to do some research? I never do research. I did? Okay, yeah, yeah, no,

1060
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<v Speaker 2>I got your text and then now it makes it

1061
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<v Speaker 2>more clear. We'll talk again next Monday. Is that cool?

1062
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<v Speaker 2>That's fine? Okay, thank you man.

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<v Speaker 4>Just real quick to finish up on the have Alina's

1064
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<v Speaker 4>They played two years, just two seasons. Bob Didier was

1065
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<v Speaker 4>the manager of the first year, whos been a manager

1066
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<v Speaker 4>of Tucson Toros, I believe, and then Davey Lopes was

1067
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<v Speaker 4>their manager of the second year. And then that was

1068
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<v Speaker 4>it ninety two and ninety three. So the organ interview

1069
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<v Speaker 4>was had to have been in ninety three, in the

1070
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<v Speaker 4>fall of ninety three, after they've won the championship.

1071
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<v Speaker 2>He no longer played.

1072
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, after the finals in May and Phoenix. Yeah, and

1073
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<v Speaker 4>so this was right after that.

1074
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, gotta go, Yes, last last thing I got

1075
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<v Speaker 3>to finish up to chat. Oh yeah, uh well, typically

1076
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<v Speaker 3>was certainly possible to make from have havelena me. They

1077
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:40.719
<v Speaker 3>are typically made from pork skin or pork belly, which

1078
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<v Speaker 3>is a richer which is richer in fat.

1079
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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure, but who knows in Tucson. Yeah, you just

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<v Speaker 2>don't talk about it. Yep. Yeah, Okay, thanks a bunch, everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>See you on Monday. Have a good few days.
