Speaker 1: Streaming live on the Ihearts Radio Wive. This is Eye
Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to the ball here on Fox sportsporteen. Cookie,
Speaker 2: I'm Steve Rivera, your Dave Silver. Now we have one
Speaker 2: with breaking news. I don't know why it never works
Speaker 2: with me. It doesn't like me.
Speaker 3: Oh well, welcome to breaking news, yours truly, Mihitolindo on
Speaker 3: a Tuesday.
Speaker 2: It feels a little bit weird. Yes, no, I'm glad
Speaker 2: you filled in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're here on a Tuesday, starting off with some
Speaker 3: Arizona women's basketball after the weekend editions of Molly Ladwig
Speaker 3: and oh Sumiya Suga Pung.
Speaker 2: Yeah she where's she from?
Speaker 3: You see San Diego transfer Ladwig is an incoming from
Speaker 3: I think Omaha de Brass.
Speaker 2: I think the roster is pretty much complete in it,
Speaker 2: I believe so.
Speaker 3: I've been waiting for the official on the on the website,
Speaker 3: but they announced today the officially signed the signing international
Speaker 3: guard uh media.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had that yesterday, but it was I don't
Speaker 2: think it was official.
Speaker 3: It may have been, but and then they had a
Speaker 3: couple of staff editions. Jenna Nudsen. I believe that's how
Speaker 3: you pronounced that last name. As an assistant.
Speaker 4: Coach as well, he played for her at the Embry
Speaker 4: Riddle her early years as as the head coach, so
Speaker 4: she played for her there.
Speaker 2: Would you ever guessed that mby Riddle had a team?
Speaker 2: I didn't even know. No, what is it? Is it
Speaker 2: a n ai?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, so yeah, it's up in Prescott.
Speaker 3: Also, you haven't said that, right pre Preskres I always
Speaker 3: had a Prescott.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's wrong. It's pres k a biscuit, but it's
Speaker 2: a brisky the biscuit and brisky don't make me hungry.
Speaker 3: Now, I didn't have my lunch. So alasi these A
Speaker 3: Williams as the director of Staff Staff Operations, joining her
Speaker 3: from Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Okay, so they get they get a GM, they got
Speaker 2: Julie Rosie card great. Uh and then we have the
Speaker 2: two new right, well, okay, I think they're gonna be fine.
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be fine. It always will be yeah,
Speaker 3: sure eventually, sure that's.
Speaker 2: Lightning the bottle like Ada did.
Speaker 3: And who knows exactly And then you guys have such
Speaker 3: about it earlier. But baseball happening tonight six o'clock high
Speaker 3: Corbett Field taking on New Mexico State six.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, you'll be home by eight thirty whether
Speaker 2: you like.
Speaker 6: It or not.
Speaker 4: He handed one of the basketball games full night of sports.
Speaker 4: What a life baseball? Well, they struggled, but they went
Speaker 4: one to two against six. They've got a couple more
Speaker 4: series before the Big twelve Attorney.
Speaker 3: They played in Mexico State about a month ago, a
Speaker 3: little lesson the beginning of the month. Yeah, one eleven
Speaker 3: to nine. Uh, and tonight will be there. You have baseball?
Speaker 2: What is that is there? Latin night? Take me to
Speaker 2: the game. Okay on baseball, I should be likely.
Speaker 4: You know, I went to U Zoom Nights a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks ago and there was like nobody there from
Speaker 4: the Zona Zoo. I was kind of like, you know,
Speaker 4: wasn't there supposed to be like their studying day, their
Speaker 4: study The only thing they had was like the cheerleaders
Speaker 4: were there for some reason. And what was the attendants like, say,
Speaker 4: maybe fifteen hundred, like a bunch of old guys like me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they thought you doing it.
Speaker 4: I remember the days of when Chip played played for
Speaker 4: the U A.
Speaker 2: But yeah, baseball happening tonight.
Speaker 3: Okay, you I mean yeahego the baseball Take me to
Speaker 3: the game of baseball.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Softball's got their upcoming road trip to Houston starting on
Speaker 3: Friday after the split in San Diego last weekend. But
Speaker 3: today was announced Devin Nets picked up her second big
Speaker 3: tall Picture of the week.
Speaker 2: Nice, So come grat this little future for her graduation.
Speaker 3: So I'm not sure if you talked about yesterday, but
Speaker 3: Shaquille O'Neal has agreed to become the Sacramento.
Speaker 2: State gm UH with Bibby right, yeah, with baby. That's
Speaker 2: interesting because his son's gonna be playing for her gm Yeah.
Speaker 2: When when do they have time? He's got to do
Speaker 2: an icy hot commercial, he's got to do a general
Speaker 2: the commercial, he's got to do the T and T stuff.
Speaker 2: Now he's gonna be the gm Well, if anything anything,
Speaker 2: I think the world of mine because he's he is
Speaker 2: a friend of mine and we text every now and again,
Speaker 2: and he's going full for his baby. He knows, he
Speaker 2: knows people. Can he get some players I think for
Speaker 2: that level, I think so. I think.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 2: The thing is that's the place, Dave, and we know
Speaker 2: this New Mexico state, maybe in New Mexico to a degree,
Speaker 2: the Colorado States. You go there and you better catch
Speaker 2: it right away. It's a place to get fired because
Speaker 2: you got to win, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: mean they're in the big sky.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what Nau the Montana is the North Oka
Speaker 4: Idaho's I think.
Speaker 2: If he wins, and he could because he's that dude,
Speaker 2: he's that coach he wanted at the high school level.
Speaker 2: He's a demanding coach. Uh he can, Yeah, he'll draw
Speaker 2: some excuse me, draw some attention. Well, look he's already
Speaker 2: did with Shack being his GM guy exactly. And then
Speaker 2: he's uh, I know, he got a recruit out of
Speaker 2: south out of a Scott Still Junior college community college.
Speaker 2: So yeah, more power to Mike.
Speaker 4: So these guys come in like as GM's like, is
Speaker 4: that like a really a full time job?
Speaker 2: You think, well, how's that going to work? Well? I
Speaker 2: think depends, Like here would be an u a right
Speaker 2: over there. I'm not too sure because uh, Steph is
Speaker 2: a GM for David Savidson. Davidson also Trey Young at Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, so it's kind of like a you know, uh,
Speaker 4: what's the what's the word I'm looking for a celebrity
Speaker 4: of I mean, like Arizona's got guys that are you know,
Speaker 4: actually you know, work on the staff.
Speaker 2: They are supposedly gms. I think some of it and
Speaker 2: I'm talking through my my, you know what, because I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm sure that nil if Shack gives some
Speaker 2: ni L to that, and the other guys give a Hey,
Speaker 2: it's not on the table, it's it's upfront, and your
Speaker 2: coach is given it to you or your GM is
Speaker 2: given it to you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's similar to the role Bruski fish or
Speaker 3: good Point senior analyst or supervisor best friends a good
Speaker 3: Point senior best friend to the head coach.
Speaker 4: But then that guy you know, Woj from ESPN that
Speaker 4: goes to Saint Bonaventure, he's their GM and he every
Speaker 4: once in a while and will announced, hey we got
Speaker 4: this play.
Speaker 2: I mean, so he seems to be working that gig.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure and all if you have Shack
Speaker 2: is your guy and he's talking you up. I mean,
Speaker 2: who's not gonna listen right, whether it's good or not.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what he says. In fact, I
Speaker 2: get to google get my next icy hot just joking.
Speaker 2: Those those work, do they okay? Good for me? Good
Speaker 2: to know I walked like an old dude. You know
Speaker 2: I've been walking like an old dude because I would
Speaker 2: all you ever had baseball, baseball, baseball being very very
Speaker 2: good to me. I don't.
Speaker 3: I also don't know if you talked about this yesterday,
Speaker 3: but Elijah Arenas is walking in doing better.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did did you see that video? The noo there
Speaker 2: was a video of the crash. No, did it come
Speaker 2: from the car? I guess because it does it take
Speaker 2: from the way it looks, wasn't it? It was a
Speaker 2: Tesla cyber truck crash into a tree.
Speaker 3: Did not see it? Did it come out today? I
Speaker 3: saw it last week or like a couple of the day.
Speaker 3: I didn't see it, So tell me crashing into a tree.
Speaker 3: I've been guessing the battery caught fire or the engine
Speaker 3: or whatever. I don't know how those things work. But
Speaker 3: wheels of a trash can or whatever, I don't know.
Speaker 3: But also hit off one of the fire hydrants and
Speaker 3: water was ever but he they someone local right there
Speaker 3: and then they but I'm guessing possibly one of the
Speaker 3: house the house members of the household in front of it,
Speaker 3: came out and knew that there was someone in the car.
Speaker 3: Still got to bild him out and he was laying
Speaker 3: and rolling in the water right there for for a
Speaker 3: good while until the paramedics came.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, so part of that story was he was
Speaker 2: it was five o'clock in the morning, I think at
Speaker 2: five o'clock in the morning, and it said that he
Speaker 2: was coming from a workout. I'm thinking to my I'm
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, who's working out at four or five, three, three,
Speaker 2: four thirty in the morning. You know, well, people that
Speaker 2: want to be real good, you can sleep till seven
Speaker 2: or eight, you know what I'm saying. The skeptical Yeah,
Speaker 2: skeptics to it. Yeah, okay, no, I definitely work Google
Speaker 2: Google the if you have a chance to google the
Speaker 2: crash or whatever, because it was Yeah, I was definitely
Speaker 2: on on x.
Speaker 3: Okay, uh, but continue with some bad baketball. You got
Speaker 3: the we talked about it. The playoffs happening right now.
Speaker 3: Great games last night. Oh, a great game last night.
Speaker 3: But we got the Bucks and Pacers in the midst
Speaker 3: of it right now, forty seven forty one Bucks at
Speaker 3: the half Oay, you got the Pistons going up against
Speaker 3: the Knicks at four thirty, Magic playing the Celtics at
Speaker 3: five thirty, and the tides series between the Clippers and
Speaker 3: Nuggets at seven.
Speaker 2: That's good. I've been watching that's Denver right, game five
Speaker 2: and what's the two?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that those games have been great. I mean the
Speaker 4: Clippers are favored by the point and a half on
Speaker 4: the road.
Speaker 3: You're a you're a dunk away from being up three
Speaker 3: to one. So this is this is, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: been a great series. But I'm not sure how the
Speaker 3: hold up against Oklahoma City. Yeah, after say it goes
Speaker 3: seven to six.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because this game, I mean, this series will definitely
Speaker 4: go six at least.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So you guys talked about there and Gordon play assume
Speaker 4: yes they're tipping.
Speaker 2: That was something else. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Staying in the NBA, Kings have named Doug Christie their
Speaker 3: next head coach.
Speaker 2: Oh, so he's gonna stick on stay on right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the interim after firing their their original
Speaker 3: head coach. I think it was rown. Yeah, but he's
Speaker 3: gonna stick with that choice. After Damian Lillard got hurt
Speaker 3: with his uh achilles, doc Rivers came out and said
Speaker 3: this isn't and said that, Dame said, that's not the
Speaker 3: way he's going to go out. There's been a lot
Speaker 3: of speculation if this is the retirement for Lillard or
Speaker 3: maybe just career ending, but he is very clear that
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to go out that way. No, I
Speaker 3: don't think he ever. I don't think for my opinion,
Speaker 3: that was never the case. Right, right, what do you
Speaker 3: got to Did Biby get.
Speaker 4: Another Biby got a player, but I'm not sure he's
Speaker 4: the best player in the world. His ex high school phenom,
Speaker 4: Mikey Williams, leaves University of Central Florida for Sacramento State.
Speaker 4: He was involved in some shooting in twenty twenty three
Speaker 4: when he was at Memphis. Charges were dropped or reduced,
Speaker 4: pled guilty, sentenced to a year of probation. But anyway,
Speaker 4: he's on his way to Sacramento State. Six foot three guard,
Speaker 4: three point three million Instagram followers, was considered a five
Speaker 4: star prospect in his high school career. Wow, but yeah,
Speaker 4: maybe rehab himself a little bit. Trivian Shack's tutelage.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw this, but there was
Speaker 3: a Kobe Bryant and GG Murro that was vandalized. Luca
Speaker 3: Doncz stepped up and made like a five thousand dollars
Speaker 3: donation to restore it.
Speaker 2: What was it down in downtown in La Downtown Los Angeles? Shocked?
Speaker 2: Have you been downtown Staples? Is it near Staples? It
Speaker 2: must be right by there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, would think going into some football real quick or
Speaker 3: not real quick, but going into football. In the UFL,
Speaker 3: they have suspended the Panthers Sampson a cool after slapping
Speaker 3: a fan postgame. Oh really, after your the thirty seven
Speaker 3: or thirty two to twenty seven loss. It's amazing, It's amazing.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you guys feel about this, but
Speaker 2: you saw what Aunt did last week. I guess with
Speaker 2: the his uh grabbing of the croutch. I think it
Speaker 2: was he to a fan, the dude in Pittsburgh. He
Speaker 2: he did one of those gestures too, and they find him.
Speaker 2: I mean, you have to have a major restraint if
Speaker 2: you're an athlete, because the dumb ass fans give him
Speaker 2: so much grief, you know what I'm saying. I know
Speaker 2: it's easy to just ignore because that's what they're They're
Speaker 2: hoping that you engage with them, right, just so they
Speaker 2: can laugh and put it on whatever to talk or whatever,
Speaker 2: and it's almost impossible for you to say, shut the
Speaker 2: hell up, you know what I'm saying and then not
Speaker 2: do stupid stuff to get fined. And every.
Speaker 4: Everything's on TV. Yeah, you knows anything. Any expression a
Speaker 4: guy makes or you know, moving with his hands or
Speaker 4: smiling or laughing.
Speaker 2: You watch Luca.
Speaker 4: I used to not like Luca that much when he
Speaker 4: was on the Mavericks because they were they were always.
Speaker 2: Going to pitching suns.
Speaker 4: Oh, just the way he would laugh and then he
Speaker 4: was still he still does the same thing with the Lakers,
Speaker 4: and a lot of people rubs people the wrong way sometimes. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, we'll see how long. Like what's his name, Edwards.
Speaker 4: He's got a lot of personality and I'm sure half
Speaker 4: the people love him and a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, well they love them if you're with them,
Speaker 2: if you're with the te Wolves.
Speaker 3: George Kittle got extended to today with the forty nine
Speaker 3: ers through the twenty twenty nine season. It's a deal
Speaker 3: worth up just seventy seventy six point four million dollars,
Speaker 3: which includes forty million guaranteed man to be an NFL player.
Speaker 3: How much a game was that sent six seventy six
Speaker 3: point four with forty guaranteed. Another another player got played
Speaker 3: two uh. Vikings paid Andrew van Ginkel with the one year,
Speaker 3: twenty three million dollar extension.
Speaker 2: Do not know my van Ginks from the money?
Speaker 4: You gotta get your fantasy football who were April here?
Speaker 2: I just know the only guy I know there was
Speaker 2: is the quarterback. Then you got McCarthy sor right JJ. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's only because he's going to combat for the Vikings.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know anybody else. Last thing I
Speaker 2: got before you got to go to break.
Speaker 3: Boise State has finalized a new contract for their football
Speaker 3: coach Spencer Danielson. After leading the Broncos to the College
Speaker 3: Football Playoffs the twenty twenty nine season. He le averaged
Speaker 3: just over or just about two point two million. Nice, Okay,
Speaker 3: good for him. It's yeah people getting paid. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: trying to.
Speaker 2: So let's yeah, let's get ahold of d here on
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to One on the ballge on Fox
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Speaker 5: Tva hi yah.
Speaker 2: Are you doing back? I know? How are you doing?
Speaker 6: I'm doing all right?
Speaker 2: Great? Great? Are you at a track that I love?
Speaker 2: Over there?
Speaker 5: No, I'm not there today. Santa Anita is not running today.
Speaker 5: Will possibly be up there on Sunday, we.
Speaker 2: Shall see mm hmm, okay, cool. But you you know
Speaker 2: a lot of the horses going into the event on Saturday,
Speaker 2: We've talked to a lot recently, you know, because I've
Speaker 2: been following journalism of course, and as one of my
Speaker 2: guests said last week, journalism finally pays.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's paying. And he's currently your Kentucky Derby favorite
Speaker 5: at about three to one, and I suspect he's going
Speaker 5: to go off a little lower than that. But no,
Speaker 5: these are horses that I've gotten a chance to see
Speaker 5: both running California, not just for prep races, both for
Speaker 5: the boys and the girls, for the Oaks and the Derby.
Speaker 5: But some of these horses I thought run as two
Speaker 5: year olds when they came out to Delmar for the
Speaker 5: Briefs Cup Championships.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, in fact, a Citizen Bulls, one of those.
Speaker 5: Missition Bull is one of those your two year old
Speaker 5: champion and he's currently thirty to one.
Speaker 2: Yeah that makes no sense to me, good bet, Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: you never know.
Speaker 5: He's Bafford, right, he is about he is one of
Speaker 5: two Bafford horses in the field. He did draw the
Speaker 5: one hole, so I'm not super thrilled about that, but
Speaker 5: Bob Bafford basically said Martin Garcia has got one option
Speaker 5: and he's going to have to run out of there
Speaker 5: like his hair's on fire because he's got no other option.
Speaker 5: His his one, his one big element to a race
Speaker 5: is he is speed, and so he will be one
Speaker 5: of about six what we call rabbits in the race
Speaker 5: where they will be gun into the front and probably
Speaker 5: setting some very fast fractions.
Speaker 2: Right, he's one and the other one is a familiar name.
Speaker 2: I don't think it has any connections to coach Rodriguez,
Speaker 2: but his name is Rodriguez.
Speaker 5: Yes, the four Rodriguez a lot of the same ownership connections,
Speaker 5: both owned by SF Racing and Starlight Racing.
Speaker 6: So kind of that the ownerships, they have two chances in.
Speaker 5: The race along with Bob Affort. That seeing his first
Speaker 5: derby back in about three years, Rodriguez made a pretty
Speaker 5: big statement in the Wood Memorial.
Speaker 6: A couple of weeks back, stepping up to a mile.
Speaker 5: And eighth and again his cruising to beat is out front.
Speaker 5: So I mean you have both Baffort horses looking.
Speaker 6: To go out front.
Speaker 5: There's a couple other horses that are also looking to
Speaker 5: probably gun it right out of the gate. But I
Speaker 5: mean Rodriguez gets Mike Smith aboard, and Mike Smith as
Speaker 5: repeatedly says that this horse is deast distance will be
Speaker 5: at a classic distance of about a mile and a quarter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so great. I mean, this is a mile on
Speaker 2: the sixteenth, what is it? I should know?
Speaker 5: This Derby is a mile and a quarter. Freakness is
Speaker 5: a mile and three sixteenth, and the Belmont this year
Speaker 5: will be a mile and a quarter and then we.
Speaker 6: Should be back to a mile and a half the
Speaker 6: next couple of year.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I misspoken. I knew that. I knew that. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we've talked about someone. We'll go back to journalism
Speaker 2: in a little bit. But and you know, I like
Speaker 2: that horse a lot. There's sovereignty, there's there's publisher. If
Speaker 2: you're you know, into into journalism and publisher in the
Speaker 2: same line, whatever, tell me about those two.
Speaker 5: So journalism he is. There's a reason this horse is
Speaker 5: the top top of the list. He is what people
Speaker 5: have been calling poetry in motion. As a rider, you
Speaker 5: look for a horse that you just have to kind
Speaker 5: of sit there and you feel like you're floating on
Speaker 5: a on a cloud, or you're just on a giant
Speaker 5: rocking horse and you watch Alan Bert to riskily, his
Speaker 5: jockey rides him and he just kind of sits there
Speaker 5: and journalism does it all, and he's just it's a
Speaker 5: very fluid motion. He's very connected, and he's only getting
Speaker 5: better with distance, and so everyone has to imagine that
Speaker 5: a mile and a quarter is only going to be
Speaker 5: better for him. As he continued to pass horses in
Speaker 5: sant Anita Derby.
Speaker 6: Going a mile and a eight.
Speaker 5: And he had some experience with a longer stretch at
Speaker 5: Lost Alamados when he won the Grade to Lost Alamados Futurity.
Speaker 5: That stretch is a very long stretch. Obviously, that setup
Speaker 5: is very different than Churchill. He was schooling in the
Speaker 5: paddock today. My understanding is he's handled it all very well.
Speaker 5: He came out of his work on Sunday in great shape.
Speaker 5: Wasn't a super hard hard work, but again it was
Speaker 5: just it was very easy and he was very calm
Speaker 5: and collected and just acting very very professional.
Speaker 4: Did I hear there could be some weather issues, some
Speaker 4: rain problems.
Speaker 5: There is some weather potentially coming in. It looks like
Speaker 5: Friday will probably have the most amount of weather, and
Speaker 5: then Saturday is supposed to be okay, but depending on
Speaker 5: how much rain does hit the track on Friday will
Speaker 5: affect track conditions. So looking for a horse that's not
Speaker 5: offended by some mud or maybe a sloppier track or
Speaker 5: a field track is pretty key. Journalism has not been
Speaker 5: tried on anything other than a fast track, so that's
Speaker 5: kind of the only question mark with him as if
Speaker 5: he would take However, he is by Curlin, that's a
Speaker 5: Hall of Famer horse, a Horse of the Year, So
Speaker 5: I mean he's got he's bred to do this. This
Speaker 5: is what he's bred to do, is to go.
Speaker 6: This mile in a quarterer.
Speaker 2: So I got up this morning and listen to the
Speaker 2: Efendl pre you know today's Today's Breakfast show. Yeah, the
Speaker 2: Breakfast Show with the with the three year of black
Speaker 2: and who the other two which they talked to highly
Speaker 2: of obviously Journalism and some of the others. But who's
Speaker 2: the girl that I thought was very impressive at this
Speaker 2: the the I think she's Asian?
Speaker 5: Oh Andy bean Comb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she loved the way he looked today, Uh and
Speaker 2: just feels today on a Tuesday, you know that could
Speaker 2: be different on a Saturday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and he's got a real eye for horses.
Speaker 5: But like I said, everyone is talking about this horse,
Speaker 5: and there's a reason he's the favorite. I felt last
Speaker 5: year's favorite was very I thought he was pretty solid
Speaker 5: as early on. He ran second by and knows we've
Speaker 5: had the Derby Choice run second two years in a row,
Speaker 5: so we're hoping to get the winner this year. But
Speaker 5: I do feel like Journalism is probably the best bet
Speaker 5: for it, just given the way he's been running, how
Speaker 5: professionally he's done everything. And in his last race, he
Speaker 5: had a lot of adversity. In that race, he literally
Speaker 5: got pinned in against the he had to work his
Speaker 5: way around. He did get bobbled up a little bit,
Speaker 5: and he only exploded coming through the turn and was
Speaker 5: only hitting his best stride as he crossed the wire.
Speaker 5: So I mean, if he's hitting his best ride as
Speaker 5: he's crossing the wire at Santa Anita, he's got almost
Speaker 5: a furlong and a half to two furlongs in front
Speaker 5: of him still when he gets to Churchill, so he
Speaker 5: should only be hitting his best dride by the time
Speaker 5: he hits milm and eight.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, So Dave brought up the weather.
Speaker 2: I don't know this because it's hard to find mudders
Speaker 2: in races, So tell me, is that legit? I mean,
Speaker 2: if they've never run in mud, how do you know
Speaker 2: they are mudder or not because you just have a
Speaker 2: run in it.
Speaker 5: So a lot of that could be related to pedigree.
Speaker 5: There are certain sires that are known for having mud horses,
Speaker 5: that are known for having horses that.
Speaker 6: Love the mud.
Speaker 5: Arrogate is one of those. You've the Gray loved the
Speaker 5: mud on Preakness Day last year. Spicetown is another. Is
Speaker 5: another sire that his folds for whatever reason, seemed to
Speaker 5: run really well on the mud. So some of it
Speaker 5: there is a pedigree related No curling seemed to do
Speaker 5: okay on it. I think a lot of it is
Speaker 5: depending on how their trip goes, how much kickback they
Speaker 5: might get.
Speaker 2: I mean, some.
Speaker 5: Horses just don't like getting hit in the face of mud,
Speaker 5: which is completely understandable. It's not a fun experience. But
Speaker 5: there's just there's that certain aspect of breeding that does
Speaker 5: come into play. But like I said, I think the
Speaker 5: track will could very well be wet on Saturday, could
Speaker 5: be a little heavy. I don't think it's going to
Speaker 5: be nice sloppy because they're going to by the time
Speaker 5: the jerby comes around at about almost four o'clock, it
Speaker 5: should be pretty well dried out and worked through from
Speaker 5: the track crew.
Speaker 2: So I was watching today, Like I said, I saw
Speaker 2: the show. Then what's a couple of the first three races?
Speaker 2: Try to build up my bank in the third race,
Speaker 2: I think the favorite one. I eight the five and
Speaker 2: I had that. So the track is said to be
Speaker 2: going fast or you know speed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a fast track is typically speed on the front
Speaker 5: end is playing well, but fast tracks can also be
Speaker 5: pretty fair. If the way that they're harrowed or graded
Speaker 5: or how deep they are, closers can still come. They
Speaker 5: show up, they will run well. And we have quite
Speaker 5: a few closers in the derby this year between Sandman
Speaker 5: and Sovereignty and Chunk of Gold, and there's a couple
Speaker 5: others in there that are definitely will be in the
Speaker 5: second and third flight of horses that shouldn't have a
Speaker 5: problem closing at the track is rated fast by the
Speaker 5: time the derby rolls around, David.
Speaker 2: Think no, I was just going to say it's again.
Speaker 4: We always have the u of a contingent to watch
Speaker 4: for with Pletcher there and Baffort as well. They both
Speaker 4: have what two horses each, So that's I believe.
Speaker 6: Pletcher only has the one, which would be Grande, the
Speaker 6: number ten horse for the Rapoli team.
Speaker 5: He last ran second in the Wood Memorial behind Rodriguez,
Speaker 5: and then Baffort has the one in the FOURG and
Speaker 5: Citizen Bowl and Rodriguez.
Speaker 4: What okay, So Journalism is the favorite. If I were
Speaker 4: to go lay some money down, who would you who
Speaker 4: would you suggest maybe I look at to be, you know,
Speaker 4: the upset winner or something like that.
Speaker 5: The second choice or the next horse that I would
Speaker 5: end up looking at would be the eighteen sovereignty For
Speaker 5: Bill Mott, this horse is getting his preferred rider, Junior
Speaker 5: Alvarado back aboard. He ran second in the Florida Derby.
Speaker 5: He ran a monster race in the Fountain of Youth
Speaker 5: at Goldstream. Again, a horse that's going to be hitting
Speaker 5: his best stride as they turned for home. He needs
Speaker 5: that long stretch, he needs more distance to be able
Speaker 5: to get to his best stride, and that mile of
Speaker 5: the quarter is really going to offer it again. He's
Speaker 5: into mischief, and these into mischief horses, they are just
Speaker 5: incredible this year they have been performing at a super
Speaker 5: high performance rate. I mean, Citizen Bowl is also an
Speaker 5: into mischief and obviously we saw what he did as
Speaker 5: a two year old, so a lot to be said.
Speaker 5: His numbers are. He did regress a little bit in
Speaker 5: the Florida Derby, but there could be some excuse is
Speaker 5: made for him there if we were looking for them.
Speaker 6: But he's definitely a horse is only going to improve with.
Speaker 2: What horse eighteen sovereignty o soeverigine. Okay, So I was
Speaker 2: just going to say that, what about you haven't mentioned
Speaker 2: although I mentioned him earlier.
Speaker 5: Publisher Publishers are really interesting.
Speaker 6: Horse draws the thirteen hole.
Speaker 5: He actually draws just inside of his uh barn mate
Speaker 5: Histastic and his Tastic won the Louisiana Derby and Publisher
Speaker 5: ran second in the Arkansas Derby. Now, I feel like
Speaker 5: the Arkansas form this year has held up a little
Speaker 5: bit better than the Louisiana form. I don't think the
Speaker 5: Louisiana Fairgrounds trail to the Derby was nearly as difficult
Speaker 5: as the Arkansas form. We saw baffordship out several horses
Speaker 5: to Arkansas throughout the Derby trail, and so I feel
Speaker 5: like those horses have had a much higher level of
Speaker 5: competition coming in today and they're seeing a lot of
Speaker 5: each other again if they've gone through Arkansas. So Publisher
Speaker 5: is interesting because he's still considered a maiden.
Speaker 6: He has not won a race.
Speaker 5: He's had seven starts, but he has not won a
Speaker 5: race this year alone. He's had three starts and he's
Speaker 5: run second and that sec that last second came in
Speaker 5: the Arkansas Derby.
Speaker 6: But he's been improving.
Speaker 5: His numbers have been improving. Where he's finishing has been improving.
Speaker 5: He gets Irad Ortis, and Irad is known for having
Speaker 5: a very aggressive ride, and this is a horse that
Speaker 5: they have said maybe needs a little bit more of
Speaker 5: an aggressive ride when in the afternoons watching his last work,
Speaker 5: he was very aggressive in the morning. They've added the
Speaker 5: blinkers now in the afternoons and the mornings, and that's
Speaker 5: helped wake him.
Speaker 2: Up a little bit.
Speaker 5: It's helped make him more focused and just more concentrated
Speaker 5: on what his job is, and so he's a little
Speaker 5: bit more amped. But this is a horse again that's
Speaker 5: probably going to be in the second or third flight
Speaker 5: of horses are kind of that in between because I
Speaker 5: think we're going to have a huge stretch out of
Speaker 5: who's in front versus who's come and wave behind, just
Speaker 5: because of the speed that's in this race.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, so we know the Journalism
Speaker 2: is a favorite, who's the second favorite. I haven't really
Speaker 2: looked at the odds yet because it's only Tuesday.
Speaker 5: It should be Sober at five to one, and then
Speaker 5: your third choice should be Stanman. That's seventeen at sixty one.
Speaker 5: Tool Sandman is your Arkansas Derby winner.
Speaker 2: Oh so you're looking at the possibility of a nice
Speaker 2: ticket even if the first two favorites come in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so Sovereignty and Journalism if you want to box
Speaker 5: them or flip flop them, or however you want to
Speaker 5: bet it. I mean Journalism I think goes down to
Speaker 5: about five to two, and I think Sovereignty holds between.
Speaker 6: Five to one and six to one. I think those
Speaker 6: are very.
Speaker 5: Realistic odds form based on his last two performances. Standman.
Speaker 5: If you want to go out to a third choice,
Speaker 5: I mean, there's nothing wrong with the numbers on paper,
Speaker 5: but if you go back and watch his races, he
Speaker 5: just seems to find trouble each time he comes out.
Speaker 5: He just seems to be green, and there's always something
Speaker 5: news that they're trying to work forward. In the Arkansas Derby,
Speaker 5: he got a great trip and as he's coming down
Speaker 5: the lane, he jumped the tractor marks that were on
Speaker 5: the track and just started to float all the way around.
Speaker 5: They were saying he was scared of the whip, but
Speaker 5: he was just kind of floating everywhere, which is what
Speaker 5: a very green horse should do. Now he's had eight starts.
Speaker 6: In his life and he's had three wins.
Speaker 5: A horse like that should not be as green as
Speaker 5: he should be coming into the Derby. Now, his trainer,
Speaker 5: Mark Cathie thinks he's worked through it. He's got Jose
Speaker 5: Ortiz a board, the brother to Irad Ortiz Junior, and so.
Speaker 6: I mean it could be fine, Like.
Speaker 5: He could absolutely run a monster race as well. He's
Speaker 5: another deep closer, So she'll be in that third group
Speaker 5: in the way back with sovereignty at eighteen, hoping for
Speaker 5: a pace breakdown where he's able to close and start
Speaker 5: to make a big five for long move a little
Speaker 5: bit more than a half a mile. For people that
Speaker 5: don't know what purlongs are, one for long is equal
Speaker 5: to an eighth of a mile, and four forur Longs
Speaker 5: is equal to a half, so five eighths of a mile.
Speaker 5: They're going to make this big move coming around the
Speaker 5: turn and run for home, and the biggest thing is
Speaker 5: going to be who's in their way and can they
Speaker 5: get the outside of horses?
Speaker 4: Dave, you have something I was just gonna say, journalism
Speaker 4: is a three to one. I was reading where the
Speaker 4: morning line favorite has not won this that since twenty
Speaker 4: eighteen years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is second the last couple years a while.
Speaker 6: Yes, it has.
Speaker 5: Been a while since we have seen a favorite when
Speaker 5: the derby and mean going. And what I think is
Speaker 5: more crucial to look at is ever since rich Strike
Speaker 5: You're twenty twenty wonder twenty two?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in last year?
Speaker 5: Was mystic Dan?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Was so let me to give you the did
Speaker 2: you give you the rich Riches? The richest son was
Speaker 2: it Riches? Rich Strike? So I was in Gulf Stream
Speaker 2: with a bunch of relatives. We flew out to Miami
Speaker 2: to watch it at Gulf Stream and agree with you know,
Speaker 2: a nice table blah blah blah. So my aunt, my
Speaker 2: aunt has a son in law named rich So she said, oh,
Speaker 2: that's cute. Okay, So she put five bucks on it.
Speaker 2: It was an eighty two to one long shot and
Speaker 2: it paid her five hundred and some dollars because it
Speaker 2: was a longish shot on the board for five bucks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, if you like, if you like a name,
Speaker 2: put that five bucks on it.
Speaker 5: Well, it could be a name, it could be a
Speaker 5: celebrity connection. Flying Mohawk, who's in the Derby this year,
Speaker 5: is owned by Jason Wirz, who owned door Knock last year.
Speaker 5: Doorknock then went on to win the Grade one Belmont
Speaker 5: and Grade one Halsel. So Jason Worth is back and
Speaker 5: he's been a huge supporter of the sport and horse
Speaker 5: racing and trying to get people involved in it. And
Speaker 5: then the other one, the fifteen render judgment is this
Speaker 5: horse originally wasn't going to run in the derby and
Speaker 5: the ownership outloaded the trainer and said no, we're going
Speaker 5: to run in the derby. And the story behind it
Speaker 5: is is this was actually Toby Keiths last horse that
Speaker 5: he was a part of breeding and owning before he
Speaker 5: passed away. And so the idea is is this is
Speaker 5: Toby's Derby.
Speaker 6: That they're going to run with this horse.
Speaker 5: So There are so many different stories and connections the
Speaker 5: horses that you could follow, whether it's job related, color related, celebrity. However,
Speaker 5: if you have a lucky number, you have one through
Speaker 5: twenty to pick from, so there's definitely a lot of
Speaker 5: angles to choose.
Speaker 2: This might be a dumb question, but doesn't Belichick cavil
Speaker 2: Hort didn't? Is Het kind of in this business too?
Speaker 11: Or no?
Speaker 5: He's been working on and off with Micropoli, Todd Pletcher team.
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's officially bought into horses yet.
Speaker 5: I do you know he wasn't golf stream at one
Speaker 5: point this winner looking at horses. So I mean Tom
Speaker 5: Brady's own horses, uh with micro Polly and Travis Kelsey's
Speaker 5: owned horses. So there's the world of sports is all
Speaker 5: connected to horse racing, right though.
Speaker 2: The reason I asked is maybe you should name a
Speaker 2: horse relationship issues?
Speaker 5: Did I did see that interview?
Speaker 6: I don't want to talk about that. We're not finding
Speaker 6: me about that.
Speaker 2: How many times if you see a guy who has
Speaker 2: the that pedigree of being a coach being told twenty
Speaker 2: four he's not talking about that, yeah, talking about you're
Speaker 2: not talking.
Speaker 5: About that, But you see mad about it, but he
Speaker 5: just moved on.
Speaker 2: Right right, Well, I did bum Phillips and I saw
Speaker 2: him at the Breaders when I was out there with
Speaker 2: you guys. Uh, he's a horse owner, guy who bum phillips.
Speaker 2: Bum phillips. The old football coaches, the old football coach. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's the USFL too. No, no Phillip, what I say,
Speaker 2: bump Yeah yeah yeah Wade Field? So sorry, yeah, So
Speaker 2: what about the Bafford return? Right, this is his return to.
Speaker 5: Conentucku, his return ever since his suspension due to the
Speaker 5: Medina's spirit testing positive. He seems pretty happy to be
Speaker 5: out at Churchill Downs. He has I think between ten
Speaker 5: and fifteen horses out there that are going to run
Speaker 5: this week alone, not this Friday and Saturday. He's got
Speaker 5: ten months. Who's in the oaks as well? She kind
Speaker 5: of swept the whole division out here in California for
Speaker 5: the girls. She's definitely not the favorite in there. She's
Speaker 5: not my top selection, but the lift in his suspension
Speaker 5: has definitely led him to bring a.
Speaker 6: Whole flue horses.
Speaker 5: If you might recall the name Nisos, who was originally
Speaker 5: the Kentucky Derby favorite last year in about February to March.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately he was sidelined with an issue. He's making his
Speaker 5: return on Saturday in the I believe it's the Grade
Speaker 5: two Churchill Down Stakes, and that's the loaded field. Like
Speaker 5: that is a huge statement for Bob Bafford to come
Speaker 5: back and put a horse like that, of that caliber,
Speaker 5: that was supposed to be a Derby horse into a
Speaker 5: stakes race on Derby Day.
Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, the our local I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 2: for your choice in a second here, but our guys
Speaker 2: white Man and Watson have a couple of horses in
Speaker 2: here on Saturday.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, they are sending Gaming in the Pat Day Mile.
Speaker 5: That should be really fun. Gaming ran second in the Juvenile.
Speaker 5: He unfortunately had a couple of troubled trips and then
Speaker 5: they sent him back to Arkansas. He got a clean trip,
Speaker 5: he ran second. Hopefully that was a confidence booster, and
Speaker 5: so they're going to now send him in the Pat
Speaker 5: Day Mile, which is a Grade two I believe, on
Speaker 5: Derby Day.
Speaker 6: So that should also be very exciting.
Speaker 5: So, like I said, Bob Bafford is very well represented
Speaker 5: not just in the Derby but the entire week leading
Speaker 5: up to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, So finally, what do you have? What do
Speaker 2: you have?
Speaker 5: I'm sticking with journalism. I mean, like it's just it's
Speaker 5: too appropriate, not too he drew a perfect post. I've
Speaker 5: gotten to watch him. He's just he's an incredible horse.
Speaker 6: He's just us poetry, emotion.
Speaker 5: And I really hope the Riskily and Michael McCarthy's this
Speaker 5: is their best shot. They had endlessly last year. Unfortunately
Speaker 5: that didn't go quite as they had hoped. But this,
Speaker 5: this horse is fantastic, and he's got just a heart
Speaker 5: of a lion, hearted a champion, and he's obvious. He's
Speaker 5: just the way you watch him run after the sant
Speaker 5: Anita Derby like he knew he knew it was game time.
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Speaker 2: You win, baby win, just keep yeah, good looking, you're popular.
Speaker 2: Free drinks, free drinks, right right right till you're not
Speaker 2: that way. The world's good. I mean, it's good to
Speaker 2: see PEMA, especially.
Speaker 4: You know, there's so many local players, so many most
Speaker 4: rushed the teams, especially with baseball and softball or like
Speaker 4: you know, seventy five percent or from Tucson. So it's
Speaker 4: given them a good chance to play and continue to play. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and you know, maybe they'll play at the Division one
Speaker 4: level after you know, having success at here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and that happens every now and again. I
Speaker 2: mean they're getting recruited just not to hear, and they're
Speaker 2: going to the schools an the IA Division two, Division one.
Speaker 2: Yeah in some cases.
Speaker 4: Well, I know when we were talking to Rebecca Kiros,
Speaker 4: their coach, a couple of weeks ago, and she was
Speaker 4: just saying, well, that's the selling point is you know
Speaker 4: you can play here in front of your family and
Speaker 4: friends still and get an education and still set yourself
Speaker 4: up for a chance to maybe go D one somewhere, right,
Speaker 4: Because those are the teams here in Arizona especially are
Speaker 4: hotbeds for women's soft off Sure.
Speaker 2: Sure, Oh, let me have some kind of breaking news
Speaker 2: in a sense. So that nickname that I said for
Speaker 2: the soccer team that was in the previous life of
Speaker 2: the f C two when they were pros. So Johnny
Speaker 2: says that we don't have one yet. We have toyed
Speaker 2: with the Desert Foxes and the Habilinas.
Speaker 3: Oh, I could get a behind a team called the Hailinas,
Speaker 3: the f C two son Habilinas. I feel like it's original.
Speaker 3: It's uh home to Tucson.
Speaker 2: What do you make a little what do you call
Speaker 2: the food Gironas? Yeah, I think from Hallolleena. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've never happened that. Yeah, I've heard people. I put
Speaker 2: pictures of Helena and they said, oh, Nash, I never
Speaker 2: eat that. Okay tough meat now yeah, yeah, okay, uh, yes,
Speaker 2: Well have Alena's Foxes. But I guess the the other
Speaker 2: name I said that, I want to see it again
Speaker 2: because it used to be associated with the son maybe
Speaker 2: the pro teams back in the.
Speaker 4: Day we did have the Tucson have Alena's baseball team
Speaker 4: in the airs in a fall league.
Speaker 2: Yes, back in the day. The only reason I.
Speaker 4: Can remember that is that k GUN sponsored the game
Speaker 4: where Michael Jordan came to.
Speaker 2: Tucson and played.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and so I was given the chance to
Speaker 4: interview who was a coach.
Speaker 2: Remember francon Gry Francona. I didn't remember that until I
Speaker 2: saw it on the thirty for thirty thing. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, he played for Francona Birmingham and then then
Speaker 4: he played for him here.
Speaker 2: But we had a chance.
Speaker 4: It was one of the you know, people ask me, well,
Speaker 4: what was some of the better interviews and most exciting,
Speaker 4: So we had a chance to. I had a chance
Speaker 4: to go up there and interview Jordan, just me and
Speaker 4: it was baseball and he did it. Yeah, it was
Speaker 4: in a spring shot. It was it a airs in
Speaker 4: a fall league game. In Scott's day, this had to
Speaker 4: be like ninety sixish before that, even thirty four.
Speaker 2: Play playing baseball.
Speaker 4: So they had already won the ninety three finals, so
Speaker 4: maybe in ninety four, ninety five, yeah, six in basketball.
Speaker 4: So that was the Tucson Avelina's I kind of remember
Speaker 4: the rest in Peace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, now they have the Tucson Suarrows. I think
Speaker 2: it is they're still around. Yeah, I think so, because yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the peckless league baseball thing. Yeah, I mean that
Speaker 2: didn't last long they were.
Speaker 4: I mean it was kind of a shame because again
Speaker 4: it was similar to what we faced with with spring training,
Speaker 4: where teams just didn't want to come down here. You know,
Speaker 4: in the middle of winter. There wasn't a great crowd necessarily.
Speaker 4: But you know, I think if you look at the
Speaker 4: rosters and some of the players had come through there,
Speaker 4: there's tons of major leaguers.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, you just don't know it until you know.
Speaker 4: Derek Jeter, I'm pretty sure played in the airs in
Speaker 4: a fall league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no, I think they're trying to do
Speaker 2: something with that too locally eventually maybe could be good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, we're trying to get some stuff going
Speaker 2: on here. Yeah, of course from the south of the board,
Speaker 2: right when I'm all that, possibly, yeah, yeah, all that
Speaker 2: all that. So what do you think how much that
Speaker 2: we have about three minutes? Okay, why Tuson doesn't succeed?
Speaker 2: Is it come with a lot of pro teams in
Speaker 2: your time, they did even in the seventies, Uh, pro volleyball,
Speaker 2: pro this pro that it's just it's big enough.
Speaker 18: I don't know.
Speaker 4: We've always been in the shadow of Phoenix. That's always
Speaker 4: We've always kind of been known as a minor league
Speaker 4: city when it comes to sports, and you know, fans
Speaker 4: here just they're coming from all over the place. They
Speaker 4: don't have strong allegiances necessarily. The U of A has
Speaker 4: a hard enough time getting people to come to football games.
Speaker 4: Basketball doesn't have too much. But I think there's just
Speaker 4: never been you know, especially in the summer. The summer
Speaker 4: is a hard cell. Let's be honest. Yeah, sit out
Speaker 4: there and sure in August and July. Sure, sure, No,
Speaker 4: the one we gotta call. Okay, call hello.
Speaker 2: You're on the air and I on the ball. Who's this? Hello? Hello?
Speaker 2: Who's this? I see it?
Speaker 18: It's yeah, Hey, Jim, Hey, I was just wondering if
Speaker 18: I could get some takes, including yours on LeBell and
Speaker 18: James as a basketball player, be his impact on sports,
Speaker 18: see the impact on the culture.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a big pan we have. The thing is, Jim,
Speaker 2: now we only have a minute, minute and a half,
Speaker 2: minute and a half. That's way too much. Do me
Speaker 2: a favorite comedy on Monday, and we'll talk about this
Speaker 2: because God, I don't even know where to start. I
Speaker 2: don't even know what to storry. He's been paying in
Speaker 2: the league for twenty two years now, he's the forty Yeah,
Speaker 2: twenty two years. God, he's had an impact on the
Speaker 2: this generation. Did Jim send me a question because I
Speaker 2: have to do some research? I never do research. I did? Okay, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I got your text and then now it makes it
Speaker 2: more clear. We'll talk again next Monday. Is that cool?
Speaker 2: That's fine? Okay, thank you man.
Speaker 4: Just real quick to finish up on the have Alina's
Speaker 4: They played two years, just two seasons. Bob Didier was
Speaker 4: the manager of the first year, whos been a manager
Speaker 4: of Tucson Toros, I believe, and then Davey Lopes was
Speaker 4: their manager of the second year. And then that was
Speaker 4: it ninety two and ninety three. So the organ interview
Speaker 4: was had to have been in ninety three, in the
Speaker 4: fall of ninety three, after they've won the championship.
Speaker 2: He no longer played.
Speaker 4: Yeah, after the finals in May and Phoenix. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: so this was right after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, gotta go, Yes, last last thing I got
Speaker 3: to finish up to chat. Oh yeah, uh well, typically
Speaker 3: was certainly possible to make from have havelena me. They
Speaker 3: are typically made from pork skin or pork belly, which
Speaker 3: is a richer which is richer in fat.
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, but who knows in Tucson. Yeah, you just
Speaker 2: don't talk about it. Yep. Yeah, Okay, thanks a bunch, everybody,
Speaker 2: See you on Monday. Have a good few days.