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Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You're Wrong

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with Molly Henningway, editor in chief of The Federalist and

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David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner. Just as

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a reminder, if you'd like to email the show, please

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do so at radio at the Federalist dot com.

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Speaker 2: We love to hear from you. Molly. How's it going

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good and great?

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Speaker 3: I think we've just been a record for the most

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time we've spent before, hitting record of just chit chatting.

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Speaker 2: Let's just keep going, and we still don't know what

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we're doing.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris. Sorry, I'm always

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very nervous. I'm going to mispronounce that first name and

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get in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Nothing worse you can do in life than mispronounce her name.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: Did you see this New York Times piece? Kamala Harris

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isn't ready to be written off? Huge puff piece. Well,

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I'll get to my theory on why it was written

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after I give you a quote from the piece. This

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is from the former vice president. I understand the focus

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on twenty eight and all that she told the Times,

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but there will be a marble bust of me in Congress.

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I am a historic figure like any vice president of

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the United States ever was. And then she goes on

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and on about how important she is. I actually don't

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think she's a very important vice president. I can't think

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of a single thing she's actually done or accomplished. If

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you remember, she was tasked with helping figure out the

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border crisis on the southern border, which she I think

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came up with the idea that it was climate change that.

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Speaker 2: Was the root cause of the refugee crisis.

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Speaker 1: But more than that, she was completely disconnected from Joe Biden,

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clearly because she didn't even know that he is not

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able to do his job. So how important of a

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vice president is she?

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Speaker 2: Molly?

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Speaker 3: I like the idea that she's as important of a

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vice president as any vice president in American history, because

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it famously is not in office that has had a

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lot of import and the better vice presidents actually know that, right,

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not worth a bucket of warm spit, I remember even Okay,

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So like Mike Pence had a little part of his

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library at the Naval Observatory that was devoted to the

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history of the vice presidency, and he was very self

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deprecating about the unimportance of the role. And I think

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it's better when you're vice president to understand you have

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to be alert, you have to be ready, you have

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to be supportive, like there are really important things you're

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doing in that role. You're learning a lot about being

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president in case you will become president. But it's not

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like the most important office in the history of the universe.

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Speaker 1: The most important vice president in recent decades was Dick Cheney.

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He might have been the most important vice president in history.

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Actually in my view, just when he was a vice president,

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meeting that he helped run the White House, that he

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helped forge policy. You could like it or not, I

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would say that Harris is one of the least important

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vice presidents.

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Speaker 2: She was complete.

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Speaker 1: I remember reading a story where she hadn't even met

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like she wasn't even meeting with the president, like for

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long stretches for half a year, things like that. But anyway,

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I just anyway, my theory on why we see pieces,

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and I bet we're going to see more pieces like this,

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is that the Democrats really don't have anyone.

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Speaker 2: Very compelling.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I actually think they do, but they don't

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believe they have anyone who's going to be compelling in

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twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: To most people, we quickly stick with the Kamalin Harris piece, though,

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because I thought it was really fascinating. You noted it

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was a puff piece by Shane Goldmacher. Almost everything published

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by The New York Times, with some notable exceptions, recently,

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is puffy or it's what you would call way after

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the fact journalism. So maybe like five ten years after

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it matters, they'll report something true and negative about the

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Democrat Party. But this was very positive and it was

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almost written like a pr piece about her. It was

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about how popular she is, how many crowds are out there,

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how the lines are very long, and it was making

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me laugh because I remember standing in a very long line.

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This is so embarrassing to reveal, but let's just do it,

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standing in a very long line as a teenager to

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get Dan Quail's autograph on my copy of his memoir

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at the Tattered Cover in Denver, Colorado. And I'm not

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saying anything negative about dan Quilt because I love the dude.

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But he didn't go on to become president. Like a

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lot of people in America probably don't even remember that

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he was president or never learned it, right, So like

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long lines for book signings don't necessarily mean a ton, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but also from what I thought, I thought that

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that she didn't get a lot long a lot of

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long lines. I mean I read that things weren't actually

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going well for her on that stur But anyway, and

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then yeah, they mean.

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Speaker 3: Nothing like just this is a maybe pedantic but the

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author writes the book takes small swipes at potential twenty

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twenty eight rivals. She didn't consider Pete Buddha Judge for

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vice president because she didn't believe America was ready for

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a ticket with a black woman and a gay man.

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You know what I mean? Like, it's just weird how

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gently it's written and also inaccurately. But I don't know,

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it just seems like the thing, the number one vibe

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I get from her, I don't know if other people

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get this, is just that she she puts off a

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laziness vibe, like she can't really be bothered to put

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the work in. And whether I didn't even get that

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from Joe Biden and he was incompetent but he didn't

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seem like he was incompetent through laziness so much as

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mental decline. But usually your presidents are people who hustle

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and work hard, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean Biden, I don't think was that by the

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time he became present, you remember how he ran. But yeah,

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I agree, in general, that's the vibe she gives off late.

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Speaker 3: Was that laziness or was that that he wasn't ever

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very bright? He was mentally incompetent and she wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Ever very right outcome? Well, that's true, all that's true.

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Speaker 1: And he had a long record of actually working hard,

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working hard to destroy the country, but still working hard.

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Speaker 3: Before the mental decline, there wasn't a lot of mental

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to work with there.

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Speaker 2: Right, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Kamala is especially bright in that

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way either, though I don't think she's I think I

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don't think she's dumb or anything like that. But when

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I think of her, I think of an unseerious person,

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I guess, more than even a lazy person, in the

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sense that I don't think she's ever thought about anything

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very deeply. She doesn't really have any kind of core

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moral moral center. The thing that I When I think

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of her and her accomplishments, I think of her smearing

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Brett Kavanaugh, putting into the congressional record that he was

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a gang rapist, right like, I think of her as

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completely corrupt in that way, given things, never earning them.

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She's a DEI higher. People get so upset when you

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say that. But I don't know why. If de I

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is this great equalizer, why can't Kamala Harris be a

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beneficiary of it?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: And the problem is people don't like her very much.

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I think that's a real important factor in winning the presidency.

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You have to you have to connect with people. Donald

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Trump doesn't connect with everyone, but he definitely connects to

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a certain group of people.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, for all the things we say about him,

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connected with certain types of people. Bill Clinton did, Barack

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Obama did, All presidents do. I don't think she has that.

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I mean, the only way she wins is if she's

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up against some terrible candidate.

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Speaker 2: I guess. But let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we can move on obviously very early,

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you know, but the most recognizable people on the Democratic

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side are people that Democrats want to run for president.

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Speaker 2: She's actually on the top.

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Speaker 1: A lot of those polls Newsome and her I think

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are in the top two.

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Speaker 3: I don't think those polls mean that much. It's usually

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about name recognition at the beginning. Name recognition is important,

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and then also what the So the Democrat Party picks

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its nominee through more of a top down procedure than

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the publican party does. So it's going to depend on

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who the top guys in the Democrat Party decide will

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be the one that they will foist on the voters.

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And I think it's too early to say. I think

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Gavin Newsom is just like a much stronger candidate than

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most people say. He's willing to lie. What did he

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lie about this week? That was just like so brazen,

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but I think it works for him. I think he

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said he was singed in the fires because he was

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like fighting fires in California. It's just not true in.

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Speaker 1: A weird way. I definitely agree with you. I think

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he's much stronger than people think, but in a weird way.

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There's remember when Trump brann in twenty fifteen, there were

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a lot of people were just sick of the old

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party and wanted someone who fights. I think there are

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a lot of Democrats who feel that way about Gavin Newsom. Yeah,

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of course he's a blatant liar and all that, but

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they feel like he's a guy who's not going to

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Speaker 2: Maybe.

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Speaker 3: I also wondered if so this situation in Maine where

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the guy with the Nazi tattoo is the nominee per Senate,

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I was thinking about how Democrats seem to respond to

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that what would normally be considered a scandal your candidate

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has a Nazi tattoo, by just ignoring it and deciding

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they would go with it anyway. And I was wondering

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if they had even they had gotten sick of their

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woke insanity, and if that will affect how things go

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in the Democrat primary. So for a while there, it

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was like you had to be a person of color

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or you had to be having sex with people of

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the same sex in order to be considered like a

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potential star. And if you were a white man, you know,

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there was like a feeling of sadness about it, even

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if you became the nominee. And now I wonder if

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they're just kind of done with that in admitting that

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it's okay to be a white not.

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Speaker 2: Just a way man.

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Speaker 1: But they're very great, rich white guy, right. I feel

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like it's a weird Kennon, But I was like that.

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Speaker 3: You were talking about Joe Biden at first, and then

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I realized you're talking about Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, Yeah, I don't know, we'll see. I think

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the best candidate for that would be Shapiro, but I

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don't think he'll ever. I don't think he'll get out

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of a nominating process. He's popular in Pennsylvania, which is

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the type of state you need to win. Democrats will

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win California, it doesn't matter who runs, but you need

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to win Pennsylvania, Michigan back and then you're gonna win elections.

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Speaker 3: And Donald Trump was like cosmically, probably gonna win in

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twenty twenty four, no matter what. But if you don't

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look back on the failure to pick Shapiro as one

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of it and instead to pick Tim Waltz too, Like

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it wasn't just that she didn't pick Shapiro, but that

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she picked him Waltz.

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Speaker 1: That is because because she thought he was going yeah, sorry,

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picked him was because he was going to connect with

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like working class men, white men and Michigan stuff. And

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then remember him holding the gun like he was just

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terribly terrible. I'm very effeminate in a way, and yeah,

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how would you say it? Theater kid like? But did

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you see the Atlantic story about Josh Shapiro where they

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mentioned that Kamala Harris had basically portrayed him. I think

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because she knows she made a mistake, she needed to

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come up with an excuse for and she portrays him

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as very what did he call it? That he was

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just selfish and cared about himself and asked the wrong

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questions and all that, and he said that that was

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all I that she was just trying to sell books

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and cover her ass, and then he kind of.

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Speaker 2: Walked it back a little.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he can win the nomination as a

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person who's in the past been pro Israel, as a

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person who's Jewish. In the Democratic Party today, I just

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all these kind of far left candidates running in the country.

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it elsewhere. They are the people right now who are

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dominating the Democratic Party. I don't see Shapiro winning in

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that kind of environment, I.

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Speaker 3: Think it's hard to say, and I know that the

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nominee will be picked outside of a normal general population process.

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But if the Republican Party fails to have a like

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a case for its voters and you start losing a

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lot of independence who are willing to go Democrat, the

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urge in the Democrat Party to just be normal and

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to reject all of the insanity that is fueling it

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right now will be strong. You just don't know how

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things are going to go because there's too much time,

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or like, you know, even just the fraud committed by

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people close to the squad, such as the Somali fraud

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skin handle that's continuing to brew in Minnesota, it could

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make those people more toxic in terms of their ability

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to pick who they're going to want.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about Let's talk about that a little

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bit and segue into something else.

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Speaker 2: I I believe.

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Speaker 1: That the you know, the we had the yeah, the

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Tennessee special election where a Republican underperformed.

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Speaker 2: Probably don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it means as much as everyone else does,

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But I do think that that race exemplifies in many

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ways the problems that both parties face want and.

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Speaker 2: That's of the post Trump world. One of them.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you had the AOC of Tennessee, right, which is,

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you know, the way the Democratic Party is going. And

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then the other side you had a Republican candidate who I,

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who I. I'm not an expert on that race, but

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it seems to me that the Republicans are going to

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be grappling for kind of identity after Trump.

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Speaker 2: Trump is a.

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Speaker 1: Towering figure in American politics, and to force of will

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in person, he changed the dynamics of the election. I

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now may perhaps we can continue in that direction, perhaps

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it's going to be something else, but seems to me

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like that's a problem. I wanted to talk about Trump

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derangement centric, but I don't think it's effective to be

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talking about Trump all the time, as they did in

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Tennessee and elsewhere, because Trump is still you know, with

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three years, still Trump, and there's going to be a

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lot going on. But the elections themselves are not about

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Trump anymore, and people have to figure out what to do.

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And I don't think either party has figured out where

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they're going to go.

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Speaker 3: I have well, it's two separate things, right, I have

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no idea what the Republican Party is thinking. The most

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alarming thing after that Tennessee special election was Mike Johnson

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came out and he was like, you know, it's not

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true that this is a Republican plus twenty two district

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because it ended up not being a very close race

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at all. I think the guy won by seven, eight

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or nine points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: And Mike Johnson was like, yeah, no, this is this

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is what we would want to end expect and people

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are lying when they say that it's a Trump plus twenty,

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which is not I mean, it was a Trump plus.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two plus Trump twenty two.

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Speaker 3: And it's not off your election, so like we're feeling great.

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That alarmed me so much because what I want to

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hear from a Speaker of the House who's in charge

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of keeping the House of Representatives Republican, would be something like, yeah,

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we squeaked this one out. We are not happy with

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how close it was. Everybody who wants a Republican majority

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needs to open their checkbook right now, write a check

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right now, get five people you know registered right now,

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because if we don't, you know, focus on this, we're

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gonna lose badly. And for him to be like everything's

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great and there's no problem. We're happy. I'm like, oh

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my gosh, like this is going to be a nightmare.

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Next year. It's going to be horrific. It's going to

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be you know, what was that? What was the year

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where Republicans lost everything? It's gonna it's it's gonna make

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that look like a beautiful year.

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Speaker 1: This is well, it's probably it's probably going to be

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a bad election for Republicans because of historic precedent to

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begin with, even though it's a little weird because Trump's

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actually in his second term, but I think this will

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be treated more like a first term midterm probably And.

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Speaker 2: Oh but I also want to say, yeah, oh sorry, no, no,

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go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I you know, I imagine that Republicans will lose the House.

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I I you know, if they're smart, they won't lose

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the Senate. And so you're going to go into the

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end of Trump's second term with a divided government, but

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not you know, a completely Democrat Congress, which would probably

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be good for the Republican nominee to have a better

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shot at continuing after you know, Trump's end of time

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than they would otherwise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I would if I'm a Republican.

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Speaker 1: I worry that you had a kind of realignment was

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based on Trump himself and not the Republican Party.

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Speaker 2: He has a lot of voters.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of voters who like Donald Trump

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and come out and support Donald Trump who probably don't

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have any historic or emotional connection to the GOP really

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in any way. In fact, Trump's message from twenty fifteen

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was I am the GOP is bad, and I'm going

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to you know, I'm going to get the job done.

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And that is something they have to work on. I

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don't I have different views on that. I don't really

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even want to. I don't think about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is this is the huge thing.

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So the Republicans are gifted this once in a you know,

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once in history kind of guy, Donald Trump, who's so

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different than most men and able to do things that

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no other candidate could possibly do. So I'm not denying

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that he has a strength of personality that is remarkable.

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It's also true that he has policies that are very

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very well liked and create new voters for the Republican Party. Now,

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if the Republican Party wants to keep those voters in

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elections where Donald Trump is not on the ballot, and

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he will not be on any ballot ever. Again, you

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have to like codify and figure out how to take

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those things, match it with all the other interests in

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your interest groups and make it a healthy, long term

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governing majority or a viable political thing. And instead you

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got people like everything's fine in Tennessee, Mike Johnson sounding

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like like if Mike Pence were a little bit weaker

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than you normally think of him, and being like that's

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the guy leading you for the next generation. Like it's horrifying.

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And I don't even mean like I'm not saying that

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thing against Mike Johnson, like as a person or anything.

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And probably I agree with him on a lot politically,

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But you, I've been gifted this larger than life persona

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who has brought to you literally millions of new voters,

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and you have to do something to keep them. And

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what is Congress doing? What policies have they codified? I mean,

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even on something like the Venezuelan boat dronings, there's some question.

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I think there are some legitimate questions about the lawfulness

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of how Donald Trump is going after them. I know

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that this is what presidents have done going back decades,

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both against drug traffickers and also other entities. I'm not

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singling out Trump here, but it would be probably a

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smart move for Congress to work with Trump to have

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some actual authorities put into place, and it would be

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a difficult issue for Democrats to fight against the efforts

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to stop drug dealers. It would be a good debate

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to have, and they're just like not having any debates.

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Congress doesn't do anything. I know this is your pet peeve,

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but like they're not doing anything to make permanent this

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gift that they have been repeatedly given against all odds.

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Speaker 1: I agree with all of that, but I think we

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would disagree on the future in this way. I don't

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think Donald Trump has a coherent policy agenda. That doesn't

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mean he doesn't have things that he does that are popular.

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But I think he also because he only because he

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goes by instinct, he does some stuff, and you know,

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let's say on protectionism, that will that a lot of

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his supporters will just go wherever he goes. I don't

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know that they will give that kind of leeway to

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whatever whoever comes next. So I don't think this realignment

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is real or long lasting in the sense that I'm

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not sure working class voters will come out for whoever

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comes next in Pennsylvania, Michigan. And I think that if

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I were a republic I would be very concerned that

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I'm losing suburban voters and middle class voters and upper

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middle class voters in Arizona and Georgia in places in Virginia.

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So I think the Republican Party needs to actually think

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about who they're appealing to, or try to appeal to

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both a little more. Donald Trump is a special kind

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of character where he had with the whole party. When

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you see a maga hat, that's Donald Trump's party. I've

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never seen anything like that. Maybe Obama for Democrats in

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the beginning. So whatever he goes, they follow him, right, No.

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Speaker 3: No, no, disagree. I mean, first of all, he did

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not invent the term of making America.

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Speaker 2: I understand, but the red hat and everything else.

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Speaker 3: So he definitely didn't invent the idea of of pride

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in country and putting your country first above other people's interests.

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He didn't invent these things. He understood that it's a

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very American concept to care about these things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we have disagreements on what that means. I mean,

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I don't think that's fine.

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Speaker 3: I mean, to me, that's okay to have somebody. So

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the point is, I'm just saying, shouldn't people move forward

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with a vision of how to go forward, because you

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can't go forward with Trump, but you should go forward

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with something that blends all the good that you can put.

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Speaker 1: Into and everyone will, all the contenders will claim to

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take that mantle, right, But I'm just saying that when

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you really think about what's popular that he does, it's

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the border stuff.

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Speaker 2: People are sick of it.

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Speaker 1: His foreign policy is very popular, and I'm sorry to

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bring this up to people, but it is not isolationist

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at all. It's just not true neo conservatism in any way.

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I mean, he's not nation but but he's out there

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and he's involved in a lot of the things that

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are going on in the world.

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Speaker 3: So this is a good point. Actually. So the national

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the National Security strategy, I forget what it's called.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, which, yeah, go on.

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Speaker 3: It came out and one of the things that was

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focused on was how we've had this long term alliance

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with Europe, but that Europe is not upholding the Western

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civilizational values that caused that alliance. A lot of Europe isn't.

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There are some countries like Poland that are doing a

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great job that we're growing stronger with, but there are

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other countries like the UK that are violating certain long

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held principles and it's making it harder to keep that alliance.

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of Americans agree with and that have that concern. And

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Trump has said and a Republican Party that wants to

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have a strong future of leading on foreign policy should

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be speaking about this.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I guess I have to read it and

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see what I think of it. And not to say

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that they won't be popular or will be because of

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my opinions, I'm just in general anyway. My point only

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is that the Republican Party will be very different, and

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elections today are already not about Trump. In my view,

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I don't think you're going to get very far with

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any kind of you know, Trump derangement syndrome stuff in elections.

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But I also don't think you're going to get away

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with kind of just leaning on trump Ism and support

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for Trump in elections in the midterms, in governor's races.

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And I didn't if you saw, but Republicans are going

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to lose a ton of state houses, you know, possibly

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there's there's a big and those are incredibly important in

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policies that actually affect people's lives. I know everyone's always

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thinking about the presidency, but your your state elections are

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far more important. Anyway, I think we're there and we

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have to start thinking about what's going to happen. And

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I do think there's going to be somewhat of a

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little civil war in the Republican Party about the future.

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Speaker 3: Well, on that note, David, I will just say I

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am not going back like I am not. I mean

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the Republican the Republican Party might go back to Bush

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era neo conservatism and all that, but I'm not going

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with it.

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Speaker 2: But that's who wants to go back. That's there's a

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los choice. And not saying I mean.

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Speaker 3: You don't live in DC. I do. Much of the

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wants to go back.

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Speaker 1: Yes, if people want to go back to the well

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like for instance, Donald Trump's all of his most popular policies,

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especially in his first term, but even today are policies

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that were supported rhetorically at least by Republicans forever, even

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if they didn't follow.

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Speaker 3: It's like John McCain would say, we're going to build

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a wall to keep the immigrants out, and then when

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he got in Congress or when he was elected, he'd

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be like, no, we're going to do amnesty. I never

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said that. I understand that people talked the way that

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Trump talks right in order to get elected and then

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and then didn't do what they said. What I'm saying

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is I'm not doing that anymore. I'm just not doing it.

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But I want someone who speaks clearly, forthrightly, is proud

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to be American, and then also implements the policies he

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claims he believes in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we need conservatives, not status like JD. Vance

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and others who just want to use the state, the

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welfare state. There's no lever of power he does yet.

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Speaker 3: And I'm also not going back to that thing of

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like we're going to do nothing while the Democrats destroy

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the country, and then when we're elected, we're going to say, oh,

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we're not going to use the government. Like I'm not

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doing that either.

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Speaker 2: I'm just you should be dismantled.

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Speaker 3: You should be by the way you just said that.

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They don't want to go back to that thing that

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you clearly want to go back to I don't.

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Speaker 2: Want to go back to that.

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Speaker 1: I want to I want them to follow through on

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all the things that they're they're talking about them totally

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for that. By the way, Congress doesn't do that because

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they probably can't, but even they don't try.

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Speaker 2: And I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: But this idea that you have to be Mitt Romney

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or you have to be some kind of you know,

516
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pap Buchanan type, that's not the choice. Papu Can was

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never popular in this country and he's not going to

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be popular tomorrow in this country. And but Reagan was popular.

519
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Now I'm not saying go back to Reagan. I know

520
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everyone gets all upset.

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Speaker 2: But the the the.

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Speaker 1: Heritage types now, I guess and others who want to

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just wash away the last fifty years because that's what

524
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they always say, the last forty years are terrible and

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go back to a Republican party. There's just an other

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big government party. I don't think that that that's right either.

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Donald Trump is not that guy. When you look at

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what he does, his deregulation, even his foreign policies not

529
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neo conservative, but is it is activists in a way

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for American interests. It's not isolationists and all those things.

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That is much more in line with the traditional fusionist

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vision of conservatism than it is. This paleo vision that

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I'm supposed to believe is the future, which I don't

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think will appeal to most Americans, including all the protectionism.

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Speaker 2: So you're smiling.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just saying I'm not going back. That's all

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I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I want's going back.

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Speaker 3: That's just what you talk about makes me just want

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to never vote Republican every Well.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to go back to the nineteen forties

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to seventies when they were out of power with their

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isolationist views and their post liberal economic views. I mean,

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the Republican Party incidentally, before nineteen eighty was out of

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power for long decades.

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Speaker 2: And decades and decades. Why would I want to go

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back to that either.

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Speaker 4: The Treasury just made a huge announcement regarding illegal immigrants.

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The Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. Every

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day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and the

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economy and how it affects your wallet. The Treasury says

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illegal immigrants will be removed from the financial system completely.

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If you can't get a job here, and you can't

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get benefits, you're not going to come. This should have

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been done years ago. Whether it's happening in DC or

556
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down on Wall Street, it's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 2: Be informed.

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Speaker 4: Check out the watchdod on Wall Street podcast with Chris

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Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: I think what is needed are people realizing how on

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the brink things are. I don't mean this like in

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a we're all going to die tomorrow or the country's

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going to implode, but there have been a lot of

564
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genuinely bad things done to how we run this country

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and how we run various states in the LA one

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hundred years, and people need to take it seriously and

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have very aggressive ideas for how to restore the country.

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I mean to take one years great example, the mass

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immigration crisis that has been beset upon us by people

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in both parties. Yes, but you know, we think of

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it most notably with the overt efforts of the Biden

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administration to just completely open up the borders incentivize the

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worst people in the world to come here and take

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advantage of our very generous socialism and welfare systems and

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to destroy the country, like it's destroying the way people

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interact with each other. We're in a low trust We're

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in a much more low trust system now than we

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were previously. We have massive groups engaging in fraud with

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the help of our systems and people running those systems

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and our administrative state. Like these are really serious problems.

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And to have people be like focused on other countries

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instead of our own country or to I understand that

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foreign policy requires us to be focused on other countries, And.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand why you can't do both

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things at once. It's just to me such a false choice.

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We can have a foreign policy, we kind of a

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domestic policy. One does not undermine the other. Just seems

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like I do.

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Speaker 3: You can have a much higher percentage of caring about

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what's happening in your own country and a lower percentage

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of caring about other countries.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that we do care about what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Or like even so much. Which countries we care about

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is important too, you know, Like looks like we're ending

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the Ukraine Russia thing now we're picking up on Venezuela.

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Still not doing probably what's necessary with regard to China.

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But anyway, it's just people need to be aggressive about

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solutions to some of our problems, and the mass immigration

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crisis is a major one. And I was glad to

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see that the Supreme Court will be taking up the

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case of the Executive Order on birthright citizenship.

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Speaker 1: By the way, yeah, I don't know how that's going

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to turn out, though there's a lot of precedent going

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the other you know, in the way that it will stand,

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I think, but maybe.

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Speaker 3: There was wrong Greme Court precedent going the other way.

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There's been a pattern of when immigration, particularly like a

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long time ago, was at a much lower level, of

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not treating it like the existential crisis that it is

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to have people come here legally and then have children

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and live here for a long time. But I don't

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think there's I don't think it's kind of crazy that

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the Court hasn't taken this up earlier, but I'm glad

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they're doing it now.

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Speaker 1: The way around that problem is to shut your borders

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and not let illegal immigrants into this country. Also, when

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people overstay their visas, they should be thrown out. Let's

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talk about ice. Then, I guess it's a good segue. Right,

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So we have Ice acting in a way they've never

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acted before. They're going after a legal immigrants across the country.

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You'd think that this was Nazi Germany right now to

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hear Democrats talk about it, Mom, Donnie the new Well,

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I guess the incoming mayor of New York City explain

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it to me. I think he had a video or

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something where he showed people how to avoid ICE attentions, right,

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something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did put a video out and he was like,

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if you know, here's what you should do if ICE

629
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comes knocking, and here's what you don't have to do.

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And he kind of had a big leaf at the end,

631
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like don't actually commit violence if ICE is coming after you.

632
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But it was a really good reminder that for a

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lot of prominent Democrats, they view illegal aliens, and in

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some cases, in many cases in New York City, criminal

635
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illegal aliens. We're talking people who are accused of rapes

636
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and murders and child sex trafficking. They viewed that group

637
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as a constituency that they care about, in some cases

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more than actual American citizens. And Mamdannie won election in

639
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part on the backs of immigrant voters. So non illegal alien.

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Speaker 2: Folks.

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Speaker 3: But he It was just kind of shocking to see

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that brazenness of him opposing ice enforcing the nation's laws,

643
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particularly when he's like, I'm going to follow the international

644
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law and arrest bb net and Yahoo if he comes

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to New York City, but he won't even follow his

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own country's laws, his alleged own countries laws. When it

647
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comes to enforcing border security and removing criminal illegal aliens.

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Speaker 1: There's no such thing as international in the United States.

649
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Can't usurp the constitution and the law. But Mamdannie is

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exactly the kind of immigrant we don't want.

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Speaker 2: I mean nothing. He hates this country. What I'm serious, Yes,

652
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I know that's that we're not supposed to say that.

653
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Speaker 1: We're supposed to pretend every immigrant is great and every

654
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immigrant wants to be an American, But that's just not true.

655
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People come here for idealistic reasons, and they come here

656
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:18,920
for material reasons, and that's fine. But if you know,

657
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when you take the oath of citizenship, it says that

658
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you will place the Constitution above all other laws and everything,

659
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and they do not do it, they're bad immigrants. And

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if they don't believe in it, they're bad immigrants, and

661
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Mom Donnie is a bad immigrant. So I am pro

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immigration for obvious reasons, personal and otherwise, but we have

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to do a better job of thinking about who we

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allow into this country and how they're going to assimilate.

665
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And Mom Donnie, I think is a poster shop for

666
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the opposite.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I looked at this Ice story and he tells, you know,

669
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he gives them legal things to say, like you know,

670
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you don't have a warrant, you can't come in, and

671
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so forth and so on, but it does speak to

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00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:58,639
what he finds important, right. He finds it important that

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a place that has a housing christ affordability crisis and

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all these things, even though you know it's more complicated

675
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than just immigrants but or legal immigrants, but he finds

676
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that more important than anything else going on. He finds

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it more important to say he's going to arrest beeB

678
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,880
neta Yahoo than anything that's actually going on in the

679
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city because he's a complete radical. And I hope, you

680
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know whatever, so New York deserves what they get with him.

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Speaker 3: I will say, I thought he was going to tone

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it way down so that he could work with the

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business community and other interest groups. In New York City

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and that he's I'm not sure, you know, he had

685
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that very friendly meeting with Donald Trump, but then he's

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like back out there seeming to be the radical that

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he is.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, did you see who he surrounded himself with,

689
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like as advisors. One guy's a former con you know,

690
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I forgot what he did, something terrible.

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Speaker 2: He's in jail for seven years.

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Speaker 1: And some other radicals who want to defund the police,

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uh and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I guess New Yorkers get what they do. You know

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what they want here. Truth is that New York is

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almost ungovernable, and it doesn't it matters who the mayor is.

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But it doesn't matter as much as it might in

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a smaller town, I think because the city councils.

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Speaker 2: Are it's already you know, you have socialists there.

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Speaker 3: So I was trying to get you to talk about

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Humphrey's executor and how that might be overturned in Supreme

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Court by referencing the Supreme Court. But I'm just going

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to bluntly suggest that we.

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Speaker 1: Talk about it as usual. I miscues given to me

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by others.

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Speaker 3: So I think Humphrey's executor is this case that people

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love to talk about as what people who are interested

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in Supreme Court jurisprudence usually have a list of what

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they think are the worst cases in Supreme Court history.

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So dred Scott would be one that you hear a lot.

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Movie Wade, of course, was one that you hear about

713
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,480
a lot. And Humphrey's Executor was this landmark decision in

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nineteen thirty five that ruled that the Constitution permits Congress

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to enact laws that limit the president's ability to fire

716
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,679
executives in certain agencies. So they created what they you know,

717
00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:11,239
they said, there's these independent agencies where the president can't

718
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:18,719
terminate because these agencies, they say, have our quasi legislative

719
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,280
or quasi judicial. So there was this guy, William Humphrey,

720
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,639
who was Commissioner of the Federal Trade Commission, and Roosevelt

721
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:32,480
had fired him, not not Wilson. Roosevelt had disagreed with

722
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:38,119
him about economic regulation and the New Deal, and there

723
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:42,800
had been a bill that prohibited firing an FTC commissioner

724
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,280
for any reason other than like malfeasance, and he disagreed

725
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,199
with him on policy. And at the time that this

726
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,559
Supreme Court decision was made, it was always bad, but

727
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:55,920
at the time it was made, these independent agencies or

728
00:38:56,039 --> 00:39:01,440
quasi independent or legislative, quasi judicial, quasi legislative agencies, there

729
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,400
weren't that many of them, and they weren't that important.

730
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:08,159
And then in the ninety years, hence they have become

731
00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:13,119
massive in terms of their ability to control regulate parts

732
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:16,000
of the economy. And so what was a bad decision

733
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:18,519
to begin with has become like a horrifically bad decision

734
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:23,079
for a constitutional republic, because having people who can't be

735
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:26,559
held account, having people in executive offices that are not

736
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,880
under the control of the executive is a constitutional nightmare.

737
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:34,960
And so Donald Trump kind of took this on and he,

738
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,519
you know, he's being sued over the removal of people

739
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:44,159
from various boards and agencies like the National Labor Relations Board,

740
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,199
and so the Supreme Court heard arguments this week on that,

741
00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:52,360
and people widely considered the way that the arguments went

742
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:56,559
to indicate that this will be at least a six'

743
00:39:56,679 --> 00:40:00,840
to three decision in favor of the executive of having

744
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,800
the authority to fire people in executive in the executive.

745
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,559
Speaker 1: Branch trump the slaughter is the, case and, yeah so

746
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:13,559
THE ftc was created Under, wilson AND i guess the

747
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,480
argument is that it is quasi legislative and even. JUDICIAL

748
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:23,480
i think they were, saying but of course there is

749
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:27,960
no there can't be. Anything an independent agency can't, Exist

750
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,639
there's no such thing in the. Constitution there's no fourth

751
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,559
branch of, government of, course such AS i, mean this

752
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:36,880
is like right down his, alley, right this is the

753
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:37,559
kind of stuff he.

754
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: Hates so hopefully we'll see the end of. It AND.

755
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,119
Speaker 1: I saw a bunch of stories from left wing media

756
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,360
saying that this Gives trump unchecked power of a. Dictator

757
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:57,280
AND i just don't understand why they believe that these

758
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,320
giant bureaucracies and people with tremendous power should be immune

759
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,079
from the electoral, process essentially when they're supposedly fans of,

760
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,960
democracy LIKE i SHOULD i should be the one.

761
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,519
Speaker 3: Who is having people who can't be. Fired that's.

762
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: RIGHT i, mean what you're saying is that there's the.

763
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,760
President it's.

764
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,039
Speaker 1: Funny they're always for giving power to wherever they, are

765
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:21,960
and they're in the bureaucracies like this is their power

766
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,239
center all the. Time my concern always is that these

767
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:30,760
sorts of these sorts of decisions are are you, know

768
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,480
are you have these decisions and then everyone just ignores

769
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:36,960
them like janis or you, know there's just a ton

770
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,679
of decisions on our bureaucracy is still, huge, right and

771
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:41,760
no one does anything about.

772
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,639
Speaker 3: IT i don't actually think it's that people are ignoring.

773
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,320
Them it's takes a while for something to work its way.

774
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:51,679
Through like the big problem With congress devolving all authority

775
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,360
to the executive agencies took a long time to build

776
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,880
up and it's going to take a long time to.

777
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,519
Correct like having the tools to do it is. IMPORTANT i,

778
00:41:59,519 --> 00:42:02,840
mean it's even like with The dobbs. Decision it doesn't

779
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,679
solve the debate of ending unborn humans, lives it does

780
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,880
give people a chance to start. FIGHTING i, mean it

781
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,639
was kind of. Crazy it was a fifty year battle

782
00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:15,639
just to get to the starting. Line and with removing

783
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:19,840
some of this administrative agency, tyranny it's going to take

784
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:20,159
time to.

785
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: Unravel Well Chevron chevron was overturned, too and it just

786
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,360
doesn't seem like much has, changed so hopefully in the

787
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,960
long run it. Does but CAN i quickly just say

788
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,800
That sotomayor said that you're asking us to destroy the

789
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,000
structure of government is what she. Says And i'm, like,

790
00:42:33,079 --> 00:42:36,679
yes we are asking you to destroy. THIS i want

791
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:38,719
to go back, Here, MOLLY i want to go back

792
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,360
to a time where they weren't these agencies running the.

793
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 2: Country is really what's happening right for a lot of.

794
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 3: People so, Anyway, Yeah Randy, barnett WHO i just think

795
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,639
is wonderful and.

796
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: A great explainer on.

797
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,199
Speaker 3: This, yeah, sorry, writer but he also had just like

798
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,199
a brief tweet THAT i really enjoyed where she, says you,

799
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,639
know the argum meant is that allowing the president to

800
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:08,199
remove administrative officials will transfer an enormous amount of power

801
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:14,719
to the. President the question transfer from whom who currently

802
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,280
has all that? Power so you saw it in the

803
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,039
media and you reference. This everyone was, like Like axio,

804
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:24,480
said The Supreme court will hear arguments On monday On

805
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:28,119
President trump's firing of A democrat Federal trade commissioner in

806
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:33,360
a case that could quote dramatically inflate the president's power

807
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,679
to reshape the. Government so who currently has this dramatic

808
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,199
power to shape the. Government and when the answer.

809
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,039
Speaker 2: Is what the? Desocracy, yeah of, Course so.

810
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:50,519
Speaker 3: These people want the an unelected unaccountable bureaucracy to have

811
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:53,079
all this power to shape the government and not the

812
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:57,760
people or they're elected representatives or. Leaders and The Wall Street.

813
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,440
JOURNAL i, was, oh, Gosh so The Wall Street journal

814
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,000
subscription is very, expensive so we canceled it a while,

815
00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:07,920
back and they won't stop sending it to our, house

816
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,159
which makes it difficult because, normally when you go on

817
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,159
vacation or, something you can pause the distribution of the,

818
00:44:14,199 --> 00:44:17,159
paper but we can't because we already canceled, it but

819
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:21,000
they keep sending. It. ANYWAY i was taking the train On,

820
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:24,119
monday pick up the paper that's out there that is

821
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:27,280
being sent to, me and on the front, page The

822
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,679
Wall Street journal, Wrote trump's firing spree at federal agencies

823
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,760
has snowballed into A Supreme court showdown about how Modern

824
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,880
american government should work with the independence of experts at.

825
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,039
STAKE i love this idea that in a constitutional, government

826
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,800
that anybody in the government should be quote, independent that

827
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,199
anyone shouldn't be accountable to the, People LIKE i, know

828
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,480
that's How europe does things in other. Countries We're. America

829
00:44:56,559 --> 00:44:59,239
we don't do, independence. Right and then the other THING

830
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,440
i love is this idea that there are experts in the,

831
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,960
government and no offense to my many fine friends working

832
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,760
in the federal, government but, like, REALLY i, mean do

833
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,840
we really think that we're talking ABOUT i, mean first of,

834
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,039
all when you're firing like a head of an, agency

835
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:18,400
they're not. Experts they're politicals, Right they're they're. Political they're

836
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,519
people who are put there because they're. Political they might be,

837
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:24,239
smart they might be well, credentialed but this idea that

838
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,119
we are supposed to be governed by experts instead of

839
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:31,480
the people is Very wilsonian in its thinking and completely.

840
00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:34,199
Unconstitutional well two.

841
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: Things one what makes me laugh is that just the

842
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,840
hypocrisy That democrats want to democratize the judicial. System they

843
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,639
want to add seats onto The Supreme. Court they want The,

844
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:50,159
court which is the one agency that is counter, majoritarian

845
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,440
to become. Majoritarian but yet they want these agencies to

846
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,239
function on their. OWN i do actually think independence with

847
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,039
a small eye is a good thing for like THE.

848
00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:04,119
Speaker 2: Fed i'm not saying they should, be but they shouldn't.

849
00:46:03,679 --> 00:46:08,519
Speaker 1: Be immune from Being that's an agency under the executive,

850
00:46:08,679 --> 00:46:11,159
branch and that's who the answer. To, NOW a good

851
00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:13,559
president will let put good people in those. Spots and

852
00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:18,280
let them function without being constantly you, know scared to

853
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,599
do the right thing because you, know for political. Reasons

854
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:23,440
but that's a different, story that kind of independence and

855
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,039
the independence that that The democrats, want which is to

856
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:26,880
say they can't be.

857
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,519
Speaker 3: Fired AND i do think that assuming that humphrase executors,

858
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:37,360
overturned that you will see presidents frequently even if they

859
00:46:37,639 --> 00:46:41,880
disagree with someone or have problems with, someone they they

860
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:48,719
might let them stay for reasons including that when you replace,

861
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,639
someone you, know you bear more responsibility for. It, actually

862
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:54,960
THAT'S i could also see it being just where they

863
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,960
turn over everybody immediately upon. It it could be, election

864
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,639
which is perhaps.

865
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: Fine one of the one of the factors that makes

866
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,679
our governance, BETTER i think than a parliamentary system is.

867
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,280
Stability so if you have someone at the feder's just

868
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,920
doing a good, job it's good to keep them on.

869
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:13,960
Whatever but, YEAH i could SEE i could see you

870
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,679
going into another, direction WHICH i don't think is, Great

871
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:20,159
but that's still that's up to the. Electorate the president

872
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,880
runs or a candidate, runs he Says i'm not going

873
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,760
to fire THE faed, guy OR i am going to you,

874
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,880
know and people get to Decide that's how it. Works

875
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,840
there are democratic and you know, forces and then there

876
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,320
are undemocratic forces in.

877
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,039
Speaker 3: GOVERNMENT i just want to do a little side note,

878
00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:36,480
here which, IS i, was are you going to a

879
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,239
lot of? PARTIES i feel like we're just doing nothing

880
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,000
but Doing christmas parties here IN.

881
00:47:41,159 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: Bc as you, KNOW i avoid those things that IF i,

882
00:47:44,519 --> 00:47:45,639
Can BUT i have gone to a.

883
00:47:45,679 --> 00:47:50,079
Speaker 3: Couple, Yes BUT i met someone at a fun party

884
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,239
of A fox. Colleague and this was related to an,

885
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:00,199
agency not one of these quasi judicial or quasi legislation of,

886
00:48:00,199 --> 00:48:04,480
agencies just when we all, acknowledge is an executive, agency

887
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,800
and you know he's done some auditing work of that,

888
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:14,400
agency and the percentage of people who were qualified for

889
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:20,800
a particular job that he was overseeing was. SHOCKING i

890
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,920
mean by this that they were hiring for people that

891
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,800
were supposed to have a certain skill. Set but somehow

892
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:30,199
all of our arcane bureaucratic rules and regulations made it

893
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,280
so that if someone claimed that they had an expertise

894
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,000
in a particular, area you weren't allowed to determine that by.

895
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,639
Testing apparently testing was viewed as racist or something like,

896
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:46,400
that so you couldn't. Test so someone said that they

897
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,519
had a certain. Skill let's say this is not the,

898
00:48:48,599 --> 00:48:50,800
case but let's say it was a coding a coding,

899
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,960
skill and they just put it on their. Resume that

900
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:55,360
was the furthest you could. Take. It couldn't even ask

901
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,679
questions about, it, Right and so an audit was done

902
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:02,519
of what percentage of let's say there were five thousand

903
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:07,360
people in this, position what percentage had the skill that

904
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,519
they were hired to? Have And i'm just going to

905
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:13,280
ask you to guess what or like how many out

906
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,599
of five thousand just.

907
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:17,119
Speaker 2: From your, TONE i would say, low like ten?

908
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 3: Percent literally it was like just over a. Dozen. Wow

909
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,480
so that's what we're dealing with with the expertise in our.

910
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:33,119
Government and just imagine that like across every, agency across

911
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,800
every issue area like things that would however messed Up

912
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,519
Corporate america, is and it can be very messed. Up

913
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:42,679
it's nothing nearly so bad as.

914
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,559
Speaker 1: That, yeah because there's SOME i, mean a company will

915
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:48,559
go out of business and NEW ceo, comes what you,

916
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,440
know trims the. Workforce you can't do any of that,

917
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:56,440
here it's too. Difficult we'll. See do you want to

918
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,400
talk ABOUT i think that you said you were going

919
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,199
to disagree with me on, this the speaking of stupid government.

920
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,639
Ideas the gym's in the airport thing THAT ourfk has

921
00:50:05,679 --> 00:50:07,000
come up, With, now what's your what's?

922
00:50:07,039 --> 00:50:09,039
Speaker 3: Your explain what you're talking about.

923
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:15,159
Speaker 1: First, so from WHAT i, saw and it just, happened

924
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:17,719
ironically THAT i was on a line at an airport

925
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,639
WHEN i was reading this on my, PHONE ourfk has

926
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:23,360
come up with this idea of putting gyms in airports

927
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,679
so that people can do a little exercise between flights

928
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,079
or what they're waiting for flights or. WHATEVER i think

929
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,480
getting all sweaty at a mini gym BEFORE i go

930
00:50:33,519 --> 00:50:36,320
on a flight is A i'm in a you, KNOW

931
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,280
a two foot by two foot seat is a really

932
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,360
Bad right next to somebody is a bad. Idea more

933
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,920
even worse is that the person next to me might

934
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,559
have gone to a gym before. THAT i don't think

935
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:51,679
we need gyms and. AIRPORTS i think we need flights

936
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,320
to be on time SO i don't have to run

937
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:57,840
across the terminal like the five mile, terminal to get

938
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,920
to another gate to see.

939
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: If my delayed flight is taken. OFF i got enough.

940
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,639
Speaker 1: EXERCISE i was At Kennedy AIRPORT jfk the other day

941
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:08,239
AND i was online the security line for like an

942
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,320
hour and a half and then my flight was delayed

943
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,880
AND i had to go to another, terminal take a.

944
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,320
Bus THEN i had to run across a terminal catch my.

945
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,239
Flight that was enough exercise for. ME i don't THINK

946
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,440
i need a gym in the, Airport please tell me

947
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:20,840
WHY i.

948
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 3: DO a couple of TIMES i have had to run so,

949
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:30,679
hard so fast that it's, embarrassing you. Know and one,

950
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:33,320
time WHEN i was much, younger had to catch a

951
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,639
flight In, atlanta which is an insane. Airport, yeah and

952
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,440
SO i had a connection and running across AND i

953
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:46,199
passed out WHEN i made it into the into then

954
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,039
committed on the.

955
00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:49,559
Speaker 1: Plane SO jfk is so old that they don't even

956
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:51,639
have like just one or two. Terminals it looks like

957
00:51:51,679 --> 00:51:53,119
all spread out and you have to get on.

958
00:51:53,199 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: Bus it's just, terrible.

959
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 3: Right and THEN i also recently with my, assistant was

960
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,719
running from one end Of chicago O'Hare to, another AND i,

961
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,679
mean we're, panting and, like you, know we made. It

962
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,320
and when we got to the, flight the flight attendant was,

963
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,400
like we were holding the plane for. You you did

964
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,719
not need to run this, hard And i'm, like, okay

965
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:21,280
well no one told me, so thank. You but WHAT

966
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,840
i saw from a Secretary duffy was that they're just

967
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,000
putting in things that would enable just a little bit

968
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:34,000
of physical, activity like a bar that people can try

969
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,559
to do pull ups. On this does not take up

970
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:40,400
a huge amount of. Space, also as someone who unfortunately

971
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,920
has to fly all the, time it's true that it

972
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,880
disrupts your workout schedule in a way that can be,

973
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,280
difficult and sometimes you're just doing literally nothing LIKE i

974
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,239
bring a, PAPERBACK i listen to, PODCASTS i make phone.

975
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,400
Calls BUT i would like to have as part of

976
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,719
it the chance to easily do a little bit of physical.

977
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,559
Activity right, NOW i do it WHERE i just kind

978
00:53:05,559 --> 00:53:07,800
of do like a leaning push up against like a

979
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,559
chair that's that's sitting. There but it's also kind OF

980
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:14,360
i wish THAT i could do it in a little

981
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:19,880
bit of, privacy you, know or a you, know like

982
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,840
a stand against the wall or jumping jacks or a

983
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:25,719
jump rope or something like. That it doesn't need to

984
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,880
take up a bunch of, Space and it also reminds

985
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:33,199
people that physical health is important and that it is you,

986
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,400
know something that we should encourage in each. Other and

987
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:39,400
sometimes people do have trouble in on planes with blood

988
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,320
cloths and other, things and so it's just like not to.

989
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:43,760
Me it's just not the worst idea in the, world

990
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,719
and in fact would have some. BENEFITS i think would

991
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,039
normalize doing a little bit of physical.

992
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,079
Speaker 1: OUTPUT i guess IF i just IF i had a

993
00:53:53,119 --> 00:53:55,360
list right of stuff THAT i think they should be

994
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,679
doing at, airports putting a pull up bar in, THERE

995
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,679
i think would be you, know in the hundred or

996
00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:05,920
two hundred. Area the other idea for them is that they're,

997
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,599
going you, know to have healthier.

998
00:54:08,199 --> 00:54:13,679
Speaker 2: Food at, airports WHICH i think they. Do there is

999
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,159
always a place with some kind of salad stuff that

1000
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:18,599
you can buy. Already usually LIKE i, mean it looks pretty.

1001
00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:21,119
GROSS i don't know how about.

1002
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 3: It's like it's like fried food or it's like, prepackaged,

1003
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,599
yeah stuff that's like been sealed in plastic that you're,

1004
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:32,039
LIKE i don't know anything about the cleanliness of this

1005
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,719
salad or you, know JUST i know that's a issue

1006
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,639
wherever you're, Going but you want.

1007
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: To hear something. AMAZING i had sushi the other day

1008
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,000
at the.

1009
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:41,599
Speaker 1: AIRPORT i can't BELIEVE i did, that BUT i could

1010
00:54:41,639 --> 00:54:42,760
not have any more fried.

1011
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,079
Speaker 2: Food you, Know i'd been in. Airports the here's the.

1012
00:54:46,119 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: Thing food is so expensive at, airports and they don't

1013
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,199
really have the FACILITIES i think to make fresh. Food

1014
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,480
so that's the. Problem i'd rather have some kind of

1015
00:54:56,199 --> 00:54:57,760
more Competitive.

1016
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: I'll look at that, dog so, cute.

1017
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: More competitive pricing or. SOMETHING i, mean it's just. INSANE

1018
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:04,719
i don't.

1019
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 2: Know.

1020
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: People IF i have a, family you know you're spending

1021
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,880
one hundred dollars getting them food at the. Airport it's just.

1022
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,440
Insane but you, know here's another. Thing you can bring

1023
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:14,880
your own salad with you bring a.

1024
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 3: Banana it's no big. Deal.

1025
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,519
Speaker 2: Okay do you want to talk about? Culture do you

1026
00:55:19,559 --> 00:55:20,119
think you're? There?

1027
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: OKAY i only have one thing Because i've been traveling

1028
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:25,400
and it's.

1029
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,159
Speaker 3: WEIRD i watched quickly talk before she gets. Down is

1030
00:55:29,199 --> 00:55:31,480
this not the cutest dog you've ever? Seen?

1031
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: Yes what kind of? Dog is? It?

1032
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: Cavalier, okay very. Cute it's so.

1033
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:40,679
Speaker 2: GREAT i love what is a dog's? Name i'm not.

1034
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:47,119
Speaker 1: Saying, okay it's a cute. Dog not as cute as,

1035
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:48,079
mine but cute.

1036
00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 2: Enough she was.

1037
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:51,199
Speaker 3: Taken care of by a friend of mine WHO i

1038
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,920
go to church with for two, weeks AND i think

1039
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,039
that woman who took care of her spoiled her, ridiculously

1040
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,960
and so now she's being like neanier than.

1041
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: Normal that always.

1042
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: Happens someone watching my dog and my dog came back a. Beggar,

1043
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:10,800
actually do you have? Anything do you want to go?

1044
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,159
Speaker 2: First i'll go.

1045
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,159
Speaker 1: FIRST i watched an, old old movie Called It happened one.

1046
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,000
Night my wife just had it, on AND i love

1047
00:56:18,119 --> 00:56:20,320
that sat. Down you, KNOW i don't like old. MOVIES

1048
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,039
i actually love this. Movie other than the casual physical

1049
00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:29,840
violence That Clark gable you, know inflicts On Claudette, colbert

1050
00:56:30,199 --> 00:56:33,679
it was actually well. Done So what's The year is

1051
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:37,320
a thirty Three, no not thirty, three thirty four and

1052
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:42,320
it is somewhat, risque, Right and apparently it was one

1053
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,719
of the last movies to be made before the hate

1054
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,599
what was called The Hayes act or, whatever which was

1055
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:49,119
a kind of self. CENSORSHIP i thought it was. GOOD

1056
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:51,239
i usually don't like old, movies BUT i liked. It

1057
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:52,360
have you ever seen?

1058
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:52,519
Speaker 2: It?

1059
00:56:53,079 --> 00:56:56,079
Speaker 3: YEAH i love. It it is RISK i haven't seen

1060
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:57,360
it in a long, time SO i might have to

1061
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:58,519
watch it, again.

1062
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 2: That's it other than the airport.

1063
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:06,079
Speaker 3: Stuff, Okay SO i have seen a couple of. MOVIES

1064
00:57:06,519 --> 00:57:09,239
i don't know, why BUT i got into The christmas

1065
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,559
spirit a little earlier than. Normal so normally we would

1066
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:15,159
Watch christmas movies only when the kids are On christmas,

1067
00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:20,639
break but totally without, CHILDREN i. Think mark AND i

1068
00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:22,400
Watched Daddy's home?

1069
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 2: Two is that With Mel gibson And Mark. Wahlberg who's

1070
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,480
The Wilf farrell know who's the? Other, Well?

1071
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,159
Speaker 3: Beryl and Then John, Cena.

1072
00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: John cena, okay.

1073
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah AND i thought it was pretty.

1074
00:57:40,039 --> 00:57:42,079
Speaker 2: Good CAN i ask you a quick.

1075
00:57:42,159 --> 00:57:44,639
Speaker 3: QUESTION i had such low. EXPECTATIONS i have to admit

1076
00:57:44,679 --> 00:57:47,400
that going, in but it just kind of worked and

1077
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,400
it was a good.

1078
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,079
Speaker 2: Cast is that A christmas? Movie?

1079
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:56,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, okay the conceit is that they're all

1080
00:57:56,559 --> 00:58:02,039
together For. Christmas and THEN i WATCHED i think the

1081
00:58:02,079 --> 00:58:07,000
weirdest Movie i've ever seen with an excellent cast Called

1082
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,239
love The.

1083
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,519
Speaker 1: Connors oh my, gosh my. WIFE i watched that Movie

1084
00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:15,559
that's just now WHEN i was. Away That's Diane keaton

1085
00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:16,760
And John goodman maybe or.

1086
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: Something, yes a better.

1087
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,159
Speaker 2: Cast, yeah on did you like?

1088
00:58:21,239 --> 00:58:27,679
Speaker 3: It it was? Horrible like it was so weird AND

1089
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,159
i don't even care because it's an old. MOVIE i

1090
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:32,039
can do. This and thank you to all the readers

1091
00:58:32,039 --> 00:58:35,119
who make fun of my reviews of old books and old.

1092
00:58:35,239 --> 00:58:40,159
Speaker 2: Movies you're, Mean but have you heard of A Wonderful?

1093
00:58:40,199 --> 00:58:46,079
Speaker 3: Life but it's, narrated which is always the sign of

1094
00:58:46,119 --> 00:58:49,280
a bad movie when you have to have a voice, OPENER.

1095
00:58:49,159 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: I hate you hate nothing more that you hate exposition

1096
00:58:52,039 --> 00:58:53,039
more than anything in a.

1097
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:56,559
Speaker 3: Movie, True and at the end you realize that the

1098
00:58:56,679 --> 00:59:02,599
narrator was the dog real which doesn't like it's so

1099
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,800
Weird and it was billed as like a comedy and

1100
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:10,599
instead it's a, dark dark film about like marital, decline

1101
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,800
AND i was, like what is going?

1102
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: On oh? Man all?

1103
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,559
Speaker 3: RIGHT i went on Like twitter to see if other

1104
00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:21,639
people hated, it and they, didn't SO i don't know what's.

1105
00:59:21,679 --> 00:59:24,400
WRONG i, mean nobody loved. It it has bad, reviews but,

1106
00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:27,639
yeah it should be marked as a very as a

1107
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:31,639
failed film with a dog. Narrator the dog Is Steve,

1108
00:59:31,679 --> 00:59:32,760
martin which.

1109
00:59:33,159 --> 00:59:35,159
Speaker 2: What really is?

1110
00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:36,079
Speaker 4: It?

1111
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 2: God John goodman's always good.

1112
00:59:39,719 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: Though he was good in this, too.

1113
00:59:43,039 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: And the Late Diane keaton's in it, right AND i think.

1114
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,119
Speaker 3: My mom's. Age she, died and SO i just like

1115
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:55,360
my mom cannot. Die, no And i'm glad she's. Healthy so,

1116
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:56,119
yeah me.

1117
00:59:56,199 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: TOO i, Mean i'm sorry to tell you, this but

1118
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,559
we all eventually will will pass, away but hopefully you,

1119
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:05,719
know far away from.

1120
01:00:05,719 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 2: Today, okay that's.

1121
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,039
Speaker 1: GREAT i think that we'll be back next week with

1122
01:00:12,119 --> 01:00:14,719
More christmas movies BECAUSE i plan on watching a.

1123
01:00:14,719 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 2: FEW i like to watch them this time of.

1124
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: Year, yeah you can reach the show with better suggestions

1125
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,239
For molly on movies at radio at The federalist dot. Com,

1126
01:00:24,559 --> 01:00:26,320
now we'll be back next, week and until, then be

1127
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,360
lovers of freedom and anxious for the.

1128
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,159
Speaker 2: Fray don't you give me all that job about things

1129
01:00:32,199 --> 01:00:32,559
you wrote?

1130
01:00:32,599 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 3: Before has a, lot because this is a eighteen twenty, three,

1131
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,800
eight even nineteen seventy

