Speaker 1: Good morning at seven am here on Thursday, November twentieth.
Today and Matt Rouge, it's a foggy morning here in
the Capital City and throughout the day you can expect
cloudy skies.
Speaker 2: With the high around eighty one.
Speaker 3: And how we're one.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the status for LSU quarterback Garrett and
Osmyer heading into senior day and the Saint's moving on
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Speaker 2: What games do we have on this week? Well, I
don't know, but I just saw Danny at the screen.
Oh yeah, yeah, following right out Danny Times twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: Now with you all right? Sure we always have a
game here during our time at Pro Dreams only eight
years ago.
Speaker 2: Say, I don't know why you need to say all that.
I know that's on me.
Speaker 3: God, Danny Allen, was it that long ago?
Speaker 2: All right? I guess, So what's up? Brother? How we doing?
Have we man doing? Fantastic loose guys today? Real loose guys?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: Gosh, I guess pilots like to say, it's a tough one.
I almost put the flashers on. I thought about it.
I thought about it, but I didn't. But yeah, but
we're here. But if you're out driving around right now
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Speaker 6: Is that why you walked in here about fifteen seconds
before the Mike's came on? No, we were about to
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Speaker 6: Is that rayd old slang for going on their show
for a little bit? What you had a hit with them?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know I heard that. I don't know. Come on, man,
you've been in this deal since June. Yeah, but I
don't do a lot of hits.
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text them back.
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many texts I've gotten. Hey,
reached out to your boy Flynn. He had hit me
back yet though.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't like doing those hits. Is that?
Speaker 3: Is that your final chapter and becoming a real full
time radio guy is to start to do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've actually done a couple. I've done a couple
on your show. That does not count. It does count.
Speaker 3: Afternoon hit that does not count whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know I did want to do this show
and laughyette one time. Oh you did, okay? Yeah, not
a huge deal, right, I think that's it though. Yeah.
I do get reached out to quite a bit. Yeah.
Do you write them back or do you just leave
them on hit.
Speaker 6: Me in the DMS? Okay, that's a great question. I'm
really bad at using my phone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, because then they text me saying, hey, yeah,
guy never wrote me back.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm really poor at that, especially like during the day,
like when I'm at the office, because like.
Speaker 2: I'll read it and I'm like, I'll get back to
that one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because like I don't just want to give them
bad news, just like immediately let them down easy in
about thirty minutes.
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And then I just say, at some point, I just
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it all right, So I should do that. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Miss all right, so we were.
Speaker 6: Me and me and Jordan were rapping here before before
the show started talking little pels, little lock up. He
educated me on a little bit about why the Derrick
Queen and he corrected me if it's not Patrick Queen,
Derrick Queen, Uh, why the trade was so poor Because
I learned about protections, yeah, and the potential protections, and
I think that's the dumbest thing in the whole world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could have the Hawks with your number one
overall pick.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but why Yeah, the protector confuses me because he's
telling me about like you could have done a top
three pick or if protected your like a top five
or whatever.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, well why would anybody do that?
Speaker 6: You could just trade away a first round pick and
then potentially not get anything the next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, confuses me.
Speaker 6: It's just a whole mess, and it makes it reemphasized
on why I don't really like NBA.
Speaker 2: So Queen's a good player.
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a really good player, but
you're not a really good team.
Speaker 2: In fact, you're a really bad team.
Speaker 3: And so it's like, is the juice worth the squeeze conversation?
Speaker 2: You got a good player? Yeah, I don't have no idea.
Speaker 3: And look, there's no guarantee that whatever pick that you
have is going to be a good player.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine favoring the protection on the NFL trade.
Speaker 2: Sounds so stupid.
Speaker 3: Hey, well, yeah, we'll trade you this number one receiver
for first round, but if it's top seven, then.
Speaker 2: You gotta delay that because you don't get that year.
Speaker 6: Who was the first person that completed what GM completed?
He created this like, hey, I want to trade you
this pick, but if I get a good pick.
Speaker 2: Next year, I'm going to keep it. That dude was
a badass. Whoever that was. Yeah, he called all his
friends that day and let him know this is what
I did.
Speaker 6: This guy agreed to traded me a pick, but like
if we stink, yeah, they don't get it.
Speaker 3: NBA does a lot of things, a lot of a
lot of unique things when it comes to stuff like that.
So yeah, yeah, the Pails lost again last night. In
case you're wondering, I'm sure that's what started the conversation.
Speaker 6: No, it wasn't, because he was Jordan was watching the
Joker talking good about Derek Quan.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: He was, look that's Tim Duncan and now the Joke
are talking good about Derek Queen.
Speaker 2: We asked him. I was like, well, what do you
expect him? Said?
Speaker 6: The ask him about him what he's gonna say, he's
not he thinks bad player. But Jordan went on to
say he elaboraty. He didn't give a stock answer.
Speaker 3: You never, like, you never said anything about like a
NFL player when they asked you about it. I never,
I didn't always just wax poetic if I didn't feel
like the player deserved.
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
Speaker 6: But he could have done like, yeah, no, he's a good,
really good young player. He could give him something like that,
he's got a lot to learn, he's gotta got a
lot of talent, blah blah blah. But apparently he went
on and infant and he did wax poetic. All right,
what does that mean? Wax poetic?
Speaker 7: Where'd you go to school? You hate on the tree
Ford evangel all the time. But I'll say no, I
get it, I know what it means. I'm just saying that's,
you know, move on. What would you like me to say?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 6: I like the saying I say that as well. He's
trying to break down the words.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're just you're asking out loud. That's the way
your brain works. What's that mean exactly?
Speaker 6: We say it a lot wax poetic? What does it mean, actually,
what are we waxing?
Speaker 3: We'll find out the origin of it, like we did
with Liz Frank, which.
Speaker 6: You were right, by the way, Well, Doc was right,
but I knew it was said first it was a
person's name.
Speaker 2: I didn't know, ye war Yes, well, I don't even try.
Speaker 3: This all right, And as we often do here when
we're at Pro Dreams, because we play like an old
school game of you know, years ago. Uh, and then
we get really excited because LS she's like real physical
in the offensive line and runs the football.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was a pop power.
Speaker 3: Actually, Oh my gosh, you got you got Darryl Williams
and Darius Geice right.
Speaker 2: Now just toting the rock. Yeah, that was nice. That
was fun. Twenty seventeen. What a time to be alive.
Speaker 3: Seventeen or sixteen seventeen, okay, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2: This is actually the first year that they sixteen would
have been less.
Speaker 6: LSU was beta testing our very first version up my
high in seventeen.
Speaker 3: Is that why they had six cramps on that last tracks?
So those a little beta test, not a big deal.
First team, right, first team that tested it? Oh yeah, yeah,
they were the only team that tested.
Speaker 2: It guinea pigs. They're the guinea pigs our beloved university.
Speaker 6: You just now we had a high we had a
handful of high schools that guinea pig that with us
with them as well. But yeah we did all the
like the sweat tested on the thinking getting fired up
right there.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right, so making me sad watching them
run power and having multiple running backs.
Speaker 2: So we'll do the way dan Anling was good. I
want you to know that. Yeah, who said he wouldn't
a lot of people then? Not me? Mhm? What was geist? Yeah?
Yeah he had he had a field day. I mean
he used to crush.
Speaker 3: Oh miss, all right, we will step away a lot
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Speaker 3: Back off the bench. Can you imagine having your feet
up back in twenty seventeen, ice cold do sequis in
hand and you're watching LSU run power after power after power,
getting like seven yards a chunk like they just did.
Get again honestly, Jake, I couldn't. Yeah, that's true. That
would be utopic. It would be a utopic feeling because
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Speaker 3: All right. So LSU Tigers taking on Western Kentucky on
Saturday night, and.
Speaker 2: They're good record wise.
Speaker 3: Now, they haven't played a power forward team, which is
abnormal for them because typically they they you know, they
would have played multiple by now.
Speaker 2: But I believe, I believe there's seven and two. Okay,
if I'm not mistaken that that sounds real right to me?
Or maybe no?
Speaker 3: Sorry, eight maybe eight and two? Eight and two at
this point. So eight and two confirmed.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 3: So it's going to be senior night as well. Obviously
your last game if your LSU is going to be
in Norman, Oklahoma to finish up the regular season. So
you're gonna say good bye to this senior class. And
that includes quarterback Garrett Nussmeyer, who is doubtful for Senior Night,
and I don't know what that means. In the next
couple of games. I don't know what that means for
the Oklahoma game. I don't know what that means for
the Bowl game. But there's you know, there's a chance
that we've seen the last of Garrett Nusmeyer in an
LSU uniform, so that you know, missing Senior Night. That's
less than ideal, obviously, and I hope he gets a
very warm reception on Senior Night. If anything else happens
like I would be very disappointed in our great fans.
Speaker 2: And so I don't know if we'll see him again.
Speaker 3: But I know this year did not go his way
the way anybody wanted to individually or team goals.
Speaker 2: Wise, There's a lot of different factors that play into it.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things offensively that we talk about
the foundation of this year's offense. I'm just I'm not
sure how successful anybody could be ye through the air
with that. But regardless of all of that, he tried
to do it the right way, and he did do
it the right way.
Speaker 2: You know, played when he was a young player here.
Speaker 3: You know, he would come in from Max Johnson here
or there, didn't get starts, but he would come in
and play and you could see the talent, and you
talked about him for years.
Speaker 2: You've talked about him for three four years. First time
he saw him throw a football, you're like, who's that guy?
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of places across the country that
Garrett could have gone. He could have played and could
have been a starter, and he didn't want to go
anywhere else, and he just, you know, happened to have
to sit behind a guy named Jayden Daniels who won
a Heisman Trophy, was the number two overall pick one
offensive rookie of the Year in the NFL, all those things.
So he sat, He continued to develop, continued to be
a great teammate, and when he finally got his opportunity,
he had a great year. He does for over four
thousand yards. He was one of the most exciting quarterbacks
in college football, and coming into this year he had
some of the best Heisman odds because of what he
had done the year before. And again, I know it
was not great this year, like we all know that,
and again go back to it individually and team goals wise,
it was not great. The foundation wasn't great, and unfortunately
here's where we're at. But still doesn't mean you don't
celebrate a guy that loves this place, did everything he
could for this place, did things that nobody else would do,
and this day and age, you did it. It's very
similar to your story, but like today's, Hey, I can
go in the portal and I can make a lot
of money because a lot of people would want my services.
Speaker 2: He didn't do that.
Speaker 3: And so you know, if we have seen him for
the last time in an LSU uniform, I am still
going to very much appreciate what Gary Nessmeyer did for LSU.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to do what he did, you can't really
compare it.
Speaker 6: I don't think you can compare it to like my
story at LSU, because it is so much harder to
do it this day and age, because it's more commonplace.
There's no there's no penalties there used to be with
the transferring.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: When I saw Garrett play in a scrimmage multiple years ago,
and I've told the story a bunch of times, I
went there to go see another quarterback at practice and
I was watching him, and you know, I was like, Yeah,
this kid's good, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But I was like, but who's that kid over there
on the other side of the field. Throwing.
Speaker 6: I knew Garrett had a special talent, and I knew
from a young age that he would be I figured
if he I figured, if he got a chance, that
he'd be a really good player. He was dealt a
really crappy hand this year. That's not an excuse for
playing bad and missing throws and kind of seeing ghosts sometimes.
Speaker 2: That's not an excuse for that.
Speaker 6: But we've broken down a lot of the foundation and
the bones of this offense being a little bit incompetent,
not very conducive to any style of quarterback player, any style,
And we've broken down a lot of those reasons why
in film study, and you know, we're not the only ones.
Doesn't take a football expert to see that what we're
doing on offense just hasn't worked all season. And a
lot of that it always the responsibility always falls on
the coach in charge and the quarterback. Whether that's fair
or unfair, it's just the way it is. That's you know,
you get quarterbacks and coaches. They get way too much
credit than they deserve and they get way too much
blame than they deserve. And that's the nature of the beast.
That's what we sign up for nobody feels sorry for you.
No quarterback or coach wants people to feel sorry.
Speaker 2: For them in that way.
Speaker 6: But the expectations coming into this season were high, and
rightfully so, because of the performance that Garrett Andnsmeyer has
always done when he came into a game. Certain maybe
not at mop up duty. I know there were some
like mop up dates that had people shaking their fist,
but his first start Bowl game dominated. Yeah, right started
last year. They threw the ball all out of the place.
He was saying, all fifty three yard from left to right.
He can make every single throw. They attacked the middle
of the field, They were more dynamic for whatever reason,
and for whatever reason, from one year to the next,
they lost a lot of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why. Nobody can really explain it,
but they did.
Speaker 6: And you lose an offensive line last year and you
come in and Garrett Smeyer gets beat up and he's
not the athletic guy that can make those plays. And unfortunately,
based on the circumstance this year and him being a
little bit injured, he just wasn't able to do those things.
Speaker 2: And I think it got I think it eventually kind.
Speaker 3: Of wore on him.
Speaker 6: Got to him seeing a little big everybody gets the yips, right,
everybody gets the I think Sam Darnold said it a
couple of years ago, like I don't know, I'm seeing
ghosts out there. I literally said that, and uh, you know,
you watch Garrett, it's like, that's not the Garrett that
we've seen so many times.
Speaker 2: That was what's frustrated.
Speaker 6: And I get it people fan bases wanting there's big,
great expectations. So you go watch this kid and like
you watch the offense and the boober come out, and like,
I get that, Like that's in the middle of the game.
Speaker 2: You're frustrated as a fan base. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Got it.
Speaker 6: But this kid deserves all the respect and admiration from
all of us fans this week on a senior night,
if we have indeed seen the last of Garrett Nusmeyer.
Speaker 2: I love everything that the kids stood for.
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that that nobody else has stood
for great things at other positions, but quarterback gets highlighted
on everything. Right, I've loved everything they stood for. He's
been ultra patient in a very impatient world that we
live in, very loyal in an unloyal world that we
live in. The kid puts crosses in his cheeks every
single day, thanks to Lord and Savior, every time he
gets a chance. He's done everything the right way. He's
been patient, and he's been a great LSU Tiger. We
all wish that he played better this year. We all
wish that the offense was better. He wishes it more
than any of us. I can promise you that because
what he did. He could have gone the NFL last year,
he could have transferred, he could have done so many
things that would have set himself up for the future better.
Because coming back, of course, has heard his draft stock,
has heard everything.
Speaker 2: You know. I don't know if he's draftable, no idea.
Speaker 6: I don't know if he was going to go to
the Senior Bowl, and it's been If you would have
told me, we'd be saying that before the season started,
I would have said, you were crazy, right. It's it's
wild to be even in this situation. But unfortunately, because
of the circumstance, because of the poor offensive scheme and
system and things that went, everything that went around, the
quarterback's going to bear the brunt of that blame. So
I hope he gets a huge ovation. I'm proud that
he has been an LSU Tiger and my hats are
off to him. And if we have seen the last up,
I wish him well and I wish I hope that
he gets rid of those whatever the ghosts are, the
yips or whatever it is, and I hope he has
a long career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh, you know, to the NFL portion of that,
I do have Drew Fabiana jo on off campus every
single week, actually every Thursday, so I have him on
later today. And I asked him that question about Garrett
a couple of weeks ago, and he's like, yeah, look,
I mean obviously you know the tape from this year
is out there and you got to evaluate that, he said,
But in the NFL, we evaluate everything. He's like, you
don't forget about the bad, but you don't forget about
the good either. He said, the good tape will be evaluated,
and there's going to be NFL teams that say, Okay,
we've seen it, we saw it.
Speaker 2: How do we get that because if we get that version,
we're drafting him. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right, So he's still very much in play at the
next level. And look, I know there's a lot of
people that are right now, just right to Chad, He's
still got that opportunity. So and look, if the worst
thing about him is he tried to play through injury, Okay,
I mean he was trying to find a way to
help his football team, right, and we all, look, we
all try to do that at times, and is it
the smartest thing to do?
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not.
Speaker 3: But again, if that's the worst thing, if like you're
getting Max, he tried to play through injury, I mean
all of us try to play through injury from time
to time.
Speaker 2: And sometimes it's smart, sometimes it's not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And you know, hopefully NFL scouts will look at
the totality of everything. Of course, just like you said,
you can't take away bad film, you can't take away
good film. I and the sky does not lie for
a reason. Hopefully they look at it and be like, oh,
this offense he was playing in was doo doo right
by this game stunk.
Speaker 2: Definitely hold up, they ask them to do what we're doing? What? Yeah,
say what?
Speaker 6: But yeah, this and you know what another knock is too.
And I know people you know think I'm an old man.
Yon at the line talking about the clap count, the
stupid clap count of being in the shotgun.
Speaker 2: Every play, you do love it. That hurts.
Speaker 6: I'm telling you that hurts people draft stock. That hurts
draft stock for quarterbacks being in that type offense. Nobody
in the NFL does that. Yeah, there's more and more
under center regular like what we could think of traditional
plays in the NFL. So certainly that doesn't help either.
And I hope that we kind of get away from
that because it's brutal. You're seeing more and more NFL
coaches come out and just trash the clap count too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's so stupid. Stop doing it. I hate it.
Tell us how you really feel. He's your voice. Oh
there you go. That your cadence there, Bud. That's about saying.
I think before we get out here today, like you
gotta get up and you got to go through the
I'll give you a snapcount. You get through the whole deal. Yeah,
we'll do. We got to and everything too loud in
the microphone. I don't know how far away to put it.
Speaker 3: Apparently the volumes not not great anyway when we're on remote,
that's what we gotta turn this thing all the way up.
Speaker 2: Sure, So give me a sound effect. How was that son? Today?
What we got turned out?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's pretty loud. All right, I'm a big Green
nineteen guy. That from Aaron, ok I don't know if
you wanted that from Brett. Yeah, but it's the perfect tone,
the perfect uh way we were green eighty green eighty
green eighties.
Speaker 2: Okay, but it's not green eighteen. And then you go
like people go with blue. Blue is tough because like,
I don't know the way.
Speaker 6: You gotta like get the tongue the top of your
mouth and like it's it's a little bit tougher.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some people would go white. Really, I never heard white.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd go like white eleven on a dummy count sometimes.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, all right, we'll get that before we get
out here, Nick, believe you.
Speaker 2: Blue forty five was my backup.
Speaker 3: Who I didn't. I don't like that at all.
Speaker 2: Blue. No, I don't like that. Get that out of here.
You gotta have something you get grunt into. Get wait
for that.
Speaker 3: The grunt cuts the crowd noise better, okay.
Speaker 2: Than just a normal normal pitch.
Speaker 3: All right, Well we'll get that at some point here today.
All right, more OTB when we come back here.
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Speaker 6: Look, just put a bow on talking about nuts last segment.
If you start connecting a lot of dots. I think
it kind of went downhill for him when he said
he'd never watched Varsity Blues.
Speaker 2: Oof.
Speaker 6: I don't think that's an I don't think people are
talking about that enough. It's tough at at SEC media
days because we only had us.
Speaker 2: Straight in our face.
Speaker 3: We only had one person that had seen it because
Witt hadn't seen it either, yep.
Speaker 2: And that was what was very apologetic about it.
Speaker 6: It was very must look us straight into our face
and said, that's is that even my generation?
Speaker 3: He did, that's true, basically calling us super old. That's true. Wait,
if you're listening, you need to watch that. You said
you would, you need to watch that. Uh. Blake Shapin,
Mississippi State quarterback was the only one that said he
had seen it, yep, suspected him. Yeah, all making sense.
So that's what I'm saying, Like, people need to talk
about these things. They're important. It's important people, Uh, all
right to your roots. So moving on from that conversation
and I'm sure we'll find ourselves back talking about obviously
LSU and Western Kentucky a little bit later on. Uh,
the New Orleans Saints make a move and they agree
to part ways. Usually agree, which don't see that very often,
to part ways with receiver Brandon Cooks. Now, this was
a free agent signing that they made in the off season,
obviously bringing him back to where he started his career.
He signed a two year, thirteen million dollar deal, and
at the time, T Bob and I were like, what
two years thirteen million at this point in his career
where you're at as a team, and I get you
were trying to get some veteran leadership as well. This
one never really made sense certainly where he's at right now,
but you were hoping you could get something out of him,
And I mean, what does what does dev say he
couldn't find a production with a search warrant? That's about
right with Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 2: This year.
Speaker 3: So I'm sure he was great in the locker room.
You heard a lot of that yesterday out of the building.
But yeah, I mean two years, thirteen million, and as
a fullback that you would have to times my career
salary by lots three at least to get to that number.
Speaker 2: You know's it's tough for me to say that that
was justified in any way when you hated it in
that deal.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean you have a one yeah, year one,
you have a union with a guy that you drafted. Look,
Brady Cook's playing a lot of different football teams. He's
been traded a lot of different times in his NFL career,
So you know, the Saints make the move to move
on from him and really leaves your receiver room. You
got Bile, you got Mason Tipton who talked about him.
Speaker 2: I got all that production from Bile. He is the
third leading receiver in the wide receiver room at least
on your team. How many yards is him?
Speaker 6: One hundred and sixty five that's triple digits, sir, leading
receiver on the team.
Speaker 3: So Cooks will enter waivers while costing the Saints a
modest amount against their twenty twenty five salary cap. He
now has a chance to land with you know, somebody
else in the NFL, and he's seeking probably to get
on I would assume he's going to clear waivers and
he's hoping to probably get on a contender.
Speaker 2: So the Saints will see.
Speaker 3: A small amount of salary cap relief in twenty twenty
six after parting ways with the veteran Brandon Cooks. And
that is on Louisiana Sports dot Net by our guy
Ross Jackson. Great article there kind of a breakdown of
how it all went down and what the numbers are
going to look like. But yeah, look, this is a
deal that when the Saints made it, it didn't make sense.
It didn't make sense during the deal, and so it
does actually finally make sense to go ahead.
Speaker 2: And just part ways.
Speaker 3: Like you're a team right now that has more issues
than vogue, Like you've you need young talent, you need
draft choices, you need opportunities I think for younger players,
Like if you're going to continue to tell me about
Mason Tipton every single training camp that we have and
how much you like him and how much he's doing,
that's great play Mason Tipton. Otherwise, he's just taking a
roster spot. He's not dynamic on special teams, right, So
if you want to keep him, let him play a receiver,
because you're bad right now.
Speaker 2: Your record's terrible. You're one of the worst teams in
the NFL.
Speaker 3: And so instead of paying this veteran guy who's not
playing either a lot of money, move on and give
the young guy an opportunity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't really understand moving away from Brandon Cooks right now.
Speaker 2: I mean they said it was mutual. Oh, he asked
for it. Yeah, So I guess if he's not if
he's not playing, if he's not playing, and you keep
this guy third best receptions in the wide receiver and
the guy has number two, is not even in the
room anymore. Okay, But I mean I think you got
fifty four yards receiving.
Speaker 3: You and I could go out there and get fifty
four yards receiving probably maybe, I don't know. You see
it's there in that flag football game the other day.
Not a big deal, not that big of a deal.
A couple catches a toutter.
Speaker 2: I mean, let's call it what it is.
Speaker 6: Like Mason Nicki Lomis made two terrible decisions with Cooks
and Flee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, oh well they're awful.
Speaker 3: Yes, Like so, yes, a fourth rounder and a seventh
rounder for the production you're getting, like a fourth round pick,
Like that's a that's somebody that contributes at a high level.
It's not necessarily a starter. But like when you give
up a fourth round pick, like you're giving up somebody
that's supposed to be like a pretty core piece of
your team moving forward, at least for you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah two three years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the fourth rounder of my draft class in Green
Bay started as a rookie right guard and it.
Speaker 2: Was a five time Pro Bowl guy. He played for
like ten.
Speaker 3: Years, right, Yeah, we didn't have one my my draft class.
We had we had so like we had no draft picks.
I don't know who they traded for, but we had
Key Sims the first round pick. I was a third
round pick that they traded the second round pick from
the next draft to move up because they didn't even
have that. They had like two fists and like a
seventh or something, but a fourth round pick. Now, fourth
round picks expected to contribute, and so like you you
gave that away for less than two hundred yards and
you gave her fourth and the seventh.
Speaker 2: Wait, less than two hundre yard. Take he's got fifty
four yards receiving less than one hundred yards.
Speaker 6: Yeah, fifty four. We got thirteen receptions. At least Brandon
Cooks had nineteen receptions.
Speaker 2: It's so bad. No, I'm sorry, dude, I misread the stats.
That's on me. People.
Speaker 6: He's got thirteen targets, he's got six receptions.
Speaker 2: Six What it says, it's almost a been.
Speaker 6: They're they're they're credible, right, that's what ESPN says. Six
receptions fifty four yards not a bad afford, Joe.
Speaker 2: It's nine.
Speaker 6: First down So pay Cook six and a half million
per year to be what is currently your second leading
receiver in the wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Is not that bad of a deal. Well, now, when
you lay it out with that guy, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I don't understand why they I mean, unless he just
you have respect for him. But of course you thought
you'd see a lot more invisible bow and arrows than
you would than he did this year. But I mean,
it's the Saints. Their offensive thinks, but the Falcon is
gonna get shucked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I said it gonna win for the
next seven be talking about Actually, don't think that's true.
You don't think so, No, you don't think you'll think,
say it's got four wins in the next seven next
seven years.
Speaker 2: It's my bull take. I get hey, I get the
turnover chain if that happens, all right, am I live
them out? Oh?
Speaker 6: Sure we do both predictions on where Brandon Cooks won't
wind up? Uh never Chaine Worthy.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, we'll guess the team. Yeah, we'll texta Landra.
We'll get her choice as well. We'll have that for
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Brandy Cooks, you said you were gonna give us your team.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you forgot No, I didn't forget
kidding me. You said you were gonna take Lunder. Well
we can get that pick. I mean a little bit
later on decided yep. I immediately thought the Chiefs. I
just feel like everybody ends up at the Chiefs for
a little while at least. It's like the rehab center,
the rehab center for everybody, except they rehab. This year,
I am going to say the Pittsburgh Steelers end up
with the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're six and four. I know
A Rod's got a hand injury, non throwing hand. They
need some help at receiver. Yeah, DK Metcalf obviously is there.
They need a two pretty bad. So I'm gonna go
with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2: It's they gonna do.
Speaker 3: You think Brandon Cooks is the two for him? Well
better than what they have than Calviy Austin right now.
Has he ever played for the Patriots? Yes, he played
for the Patriots. I mean he's pretty much got every
team he's got, He's.
Speaker 2: Got every team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has played for the Patriots. Yes, all right,
m you got the Broncos be a good one, all right?
Speaker 2: That makes it. Yeah, that'd be a good pick. All right.
I'm gonna go with the Patriots.
Speaker 3: Okay, Uh Tayte Musso don't know if y'all have a
new brand name Cook's landing spot.
Speaker 1: I'll go, uh San Francisco forty nine ers.
Speaker 2: Good one, moose, you gotta pick there, Bud.
Speaker 9: H Yeah, sure, why not? H We're gonna stick him.
I actually didn't, but we'll just go with it here
real quick. Uh yeah, Seahawks, we'll put him on the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, all.
Speaker 3: Right, we'll get a liner's pick as well. We're just
trying to get this turnover chain. Yeah, the Rams feel
like maybe a reunion with the Rams too. I'll go Steelers,
So I'll stay with my original answer. It's like on
a test, like once you get there, you have.
Speaker 2: A reunion with the Texans. Maybe. I don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean, do you think you'll have a bunch of options?
He might just be like whatever team ask something to join?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean he'll have he'll have options.
Speaker 3: I don't I mean, you don't ask for your release
if you don't have options, right, you know what I mean,
Like you asked for because like you want to be
selective and you want to kind of be picky in
what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, I don't love my pick. You want to
change your pick? Yeah, I just don't know. I'm changing
it too. Yeah, this was like your idea. Yeah, I
didn't have one at the time. That was like an
hour or three thing.
Speaker 3: Really everybody else ready to go? You know, nothing nothing there? Yeah,
just like Arkansas hated to see Harold Perkins coming, like
old Miston, like seeing various guys and any LSU running
back during this time period. No, hold, watch his counter
watch his counter watch JD.
Speaker 2: Moore right here these pollars people. God, JD. Moore was
so good because he's wearing eighteen.
Speaker 3: Now go back and go back and look at the
quotes from Leonard Fournette about J. D. Moore wax poetic.
Want to bring that back?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll take it. I would take I would
take him in Falsham moro right now, well yeah, right now.
Speaker 3: Both those guys wherever they're at, they could be, they
could be in Seattle, Washington.
Speaker 2: I drive to go pick them up, to bring them
down to this offense.
Speaker 6: I don't know what it's time we have, but I
did look up what poetic means, and the phrase draws
from the verb to uh to wax. It's a verb
which means to grow or become, and it's often used
to describe someone who's becoming verbose in their speech about
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