Speaker 1: Let's start off with a champion.
Speaker 2: Let's start off with somebody that just stacks trophies two
Speaker 2: Utah Sports Writer of the Year awards, Our Queen Sarah
Speaker 2: Todd on a Tuesday, Hello, champion, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great? I mean, after an interest that I
Speaker 3: not be doing great?
Speaker 2: What's it like just to win awards all the time
Speaker 2: as opposed to those of us who just do our
Speaker 2: job every day and nobody ever recognizes our awesome work.
Speaker 3: It's hard. It's hard to be me, you know.
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, Sarah, I want to start with I would
Speaker 2: imagine you were able to get to know Alex Jensen
Speaker 2: a little bit during his stint here. He was here
Speaker 2: ten years and overlapped with you taking your job, and
Speaker 2: a lot of reports, including our very own Sean O'Connell.
Speaker 2: John Rostinho covers college basketball. It's not done yet, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously there's contracts and negotiations that have to take place,
Speaker 2: but it sure seems to indicate Alex Jensen's high speed
Speaker 2: ahead to moving back to Salt Lake City to take
Speaker 2: the Utah Mend's head coaching job.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on this situation?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's clear but there's obviously a
Speaker 3: lot that went into like Kevin Young going to b
Speaker 3: YU right like, and there's there's even more to it
Speaker 3: when you consider Ryan Smith and the connections that like
Speaker 3: Guenny Angi and stuff have. But even if it was
Speaker 3: just Kevin Young and not all of the other factors,
Speaker 3: having someone that has that much NBA experience and can
Speaker 3: look at these young guys and say, like, if that's
Speaker 3: where you want to go, I know how you what
Speaker 3: you have to do to get there, like, and it's
Speaker 3: it's not like they were NBA coaches twenty years ago,
Speaker 3: right like it was yesterday. And so those kinds of
Speaker 3: things really really help recruiting. And I think that at
Speaker 3: these young kids, like that's what they want, right, And yeah,
Speaker 3: the chances are slim, but it's good. And as for Alex, like,
Speaker 3: he's a great person. I got to know him his
Speaker 3: wife actually his father in law on to while they
Speaker 3: were hearing Utah and they're great people. They're good coaches,
Speaker 3: and Alex was loved by the people that he coached,
Speaker 3: and that's also important. So as the way that I
Speaker 3: see it is only good things.
Speaker 2: Tell me one more question here, because he is widely
Speaker 2: credited and credited by Quinn himself as well with the
Speaker 2: evolution of mainly Rudy as far as the bigs go,
Speaker 2: But of course he coached fab He coached a lot
Speaker 2: of those young jazz bigs ns while he was here
Speaker 2: as well. But you know, the evolution of Rudy Gobert
Speaker 2: from his rookie year where it just didn't look like
Speaker 2: it was going to work at all, quite frankly, to
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer, multiple Defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 2: multiple All Star Awards. Look, Rudy deserves the bulk of
Speaker 2: that credit. But if you talk to anybody around the organization,
Speaker 2: they were glowing with their praise about the way Alex
Speaker 2: worked with him. Tell me what you saw with that
Speaker 2: Dynamics Eraah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I wasn't here for the early days of that, but
Speaker 3: I certainly talked to Rudy a lot in the years
Speaker 3: that I was here. And it's not just people about
Speaker 3: around the organization, like Rudy would credit Alex with so
Speaker 3: much of his development. And I think that you know,
Speaker 3: you're right that Rudy deserves the bulk of that credit.
Speaker 3: But if he's the one that's going to be giving
Speaker 3: credit to someone, then like you have to listen to
Speaker 3: what he's saying. And there's so much when these young players,
Speaker 3: and we're looking at it so much of it now
Speaker 3: with the Utah Jazz, right Like, when these young players
Speaker 3: are developing, there's a lot of guesswork, and it's about
Speaker 3: maximizing potential that someone in the outside sees, but also
Speaker 3: the person that is developing has to be willing to
Speaker 3: kind of like grab the opportunity with both hands and
Speaker 3: like really go for it. And it had it all
Speaker 3: is like it needs to be the perfect storm. And
Speaker 3: I think that at that time, like Rudy his determination work, ethic,
Speaker 3: Alex Jensen, what he was willing to do, how hard
Speaker 3: he wanted to put Trudy because from what I've heard,
Speaker 3: like he really challenged him and pushed him in a
Speaker 3: way that no one else would. It was just the
Speaker 3: perfect storm.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Moving over now to the Utah Jazz, Let's start with
Speaker 2: some fun news for Isaiah Callier named Western Conference Rookie
Speaker 2: of the Month for the month of February. You know,
Speaker 2: he's kind of caught a lot of people off guard.
Speaker 2: Of course, we know the background. He was very highly
Speaker 2: recruited coming out of high school. One of those players
Speaker 2: kind of like Michael Porter Junior was, where if they
Speaker 2: were allowed to enter out of high school, Isaiah might
Speaker 2: have been a top five pick. Goes DEAs See doesn't
Speaker 2: go all that well because you know, that was a
Speaker 2: bit of a mess with with Andy Enfield on his
Speaker 2: way out and they had Bronni there as well, and
Speaker 2: so he slipped in the draft. The Jazz were able
Speaker 2: to grab him late in the first and ever since,
Speaker 2: Will made the choice to start Isaiah and bench Keyante
Speaker 2: and we'll get to Kiante and a moment, let's stick
Speaker 2: with Isaiah. I think Isaiah's really responded. So what do
Speaker 2: you make of as far as the way he's embrace
Speaker 2: the potential to start as the lead guard, the way
Speaker 2: he's played in your thoughts on this fun award for
Speaker 2: this young kid, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Think, you know, well deserved because he has He's kind
Speaker 3: of responded with an opportunity and done really well. I
Speaker 3: get a lot of flack because I'm not as high
Speaker 3: on Isaiah as a lot of other people are, but
Speaker 3: that's because, like I'm I'm thinking, you know, five years
Speaker 3: down the line. Every night that I watch this team,
Speaker 3: every time that I interact with anyone. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: think what's this going to look like five years from now?
Speaker 3: And so I'm thinking, is Isaiah Callier? Is he good
Speaker 3: enough to be a starting NBA point guard on a
Speaker 3: team that's actually trying to win a championship? And I
Speaker 3: know that that's a crazy question to ask if someone
Speaker 3: like midway through their rookie year, right, but like, I
Speaker 3: just need to continually be asking those questions about every
Speaker 3: player on this team. And if it's not that question,
Speaker 3: it's is this player good enough to be included in
Speaker 3: a trade that would get the Jazz something of value
Speaker 3: that would be useful for a team that wants to
Speaker 3: win a championship? And so I think that he's making
Speaker 3: all of the right steps in that direction. I love
Speaker 3: the pace that he plays with. It's my favorite part
Speaker 3: of his game is like the way that he pushes
Speaker 3: the ball, not just for how it results for him,
Speaker 3: but how it forces the other players on the team
Speaker 3: to kind of get in line and they need that,
Speaker 3: and so I think that that sets such a good
Speaker 3: example for everybody on the team. Obviously, his passing is great,
Speaker 3: but I have to I have to ask the Devil's
Speaker 3: advocate questions like, is his passing look great? Because there
Speaker 3: the most recent people we were watching past the ball
Speaker 3: is Tayalen Harton Tucker and Kiante George. It is just
Speaker 3: passing great because no one else on the team is
Speaker 3: passing the ball like someone The assists got to go somewhere, right,
Speaker 3: And is this the kind of guy that could play
Speaker 3: point guard in the playoffs? And I think that those
Speaker 3: are still question marks. I don't think that those are
Speaker 3: answered yet, and so do I hope that those are
Speaker 3: answered and that he continues to develop and he's great. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: is the is the award from the NBA deserved? Absolutely,
Speaker 3: But he's still a rookie and so I'm still waiting.
Speaker 2: Well, And the other thing, Sarah, is if you're going
Speaker 2: to be a leadue guard in pro basketball in the
Speaker 2: year of our lower twenty twenty five, you can't shoot
Speaker 2: twenty three percent from three? You know, he's good. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's getting jumpers up over the
Speaker 2: off season. I will say this, I have and I
Speaker 2: get asked this.
Speaker 1: All the time. You probably do as well.
Speaker 2: You can learn to shoot, okay, you can learn to
Speaker 2: shoot on this level. You just have to put in
Speaker 2: a lot of work and be willing to get up
Speaker 2: early and go meet with your shooting coach and get
Speaker 2: hundreds of jumpers up every single day in the offseason.
Speaker 1: Karl Malung was a rookie.
Speaker 2: We would pray that he would hit the backboard when
Speaker 2: he was shooting free throws of the rim, just to
Speaker 2: get the you know, just to be able to get
Speaker 2: the rebound. And he turned himself into a really good
Speaker 2: spot up you know, face up shooter, a good free
Speaker 2: throw shooter as well, so you can learn to shoot.
Speaker 2: When Isaiah is fully baked, what do you think it
Speaker 2: looks like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Brook Lopez is a person that is
Speaker 3: in the NBA, right, Like, we have seen guys not
Speaker 3: even like Isaiah has the benefit of like, well, he
Speaker 3: already shoots the ball some right, Like, there are guys
Speaker 3: who like did not shoot the ball at all and
Speaker 3: then have become good, good shooters.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: There is one hundred percent chance, you're right, a chance,
Speaker 3: an opportunity potential that he could learn how to do this.
Speaker 3: But you know, when he's fully baked, like, what does
Speaker 3: that look like? I can't say like one hundred percent
Speaker 3: that he's going to he could, right, And so you
Speaker 3: still have to put a question mark on there. I
Speaker 3: can't say that he's going to be able to like
Speaker 3: if you're going to throw him in the playoffs right now,
Speaker 3: absolutely not. He cannot be your lead guard if he
Speaker 3: can't shoot. And also if he is still willing to
Speaker 3: kind of run down hill and not always have a
Speaker 3: backup plan or you know, run into like three guys
Speaker 3: that are way bigger than him and try and like
Speaker 3: shoot over him. Like, there's the infot his game that
Speaker 3: he needs to clean up. Turnovers and shooting are the
Speaker 3: biggest one, and as Will Hardy has been pointing out lately,
Speaker 3: like his ball pressure, his defensive effort, and how much
Speaker 3: attention to detail he is using on that end of
Speaker 3: the floor, those are the things that have to actually
Speaker 3: develop in order for him to be considered a guard
Speaker 3: that could last into a postseason.
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're John Havlichak, Mounto Genobili or
Speaker 2: Keyante George. When your coach comes to you and says
Speaker 2: you're not starting anymore, you're going to take that as
Speaker 2: a demotion. And you could see it in Keyante's body
Speaker 2: language early on, and quite frankly, you could see it
Speaker 2: in the production. And you know, when you look at
Speaker 2: a lot of his splits, there are still numbers that
Speaker 2: are very concerning.
Speaker 1: But he has been a little bit better as of late.
Speaker 2: The three point percentage is up to thirty five percent,
Speaker 2: the field goal percentage is up to forty percent. I
Speaker 2: don't know what we can do to get our guy
Speaker 2: to at least pretend like he's going to try to
Speaker 2: guard because that things. Still, he's a marathon away from
Speaker 2: being an acceptable NBA defensive player.
Speaker 1: But same question asked you about Isaiah.
Speaker 2: Since this rotational switch took place, what are your thoughts
Speaker 2: on the way Kante has handled it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're absolutely right, Like when Keyante is
Speaker 3: pushed down to the bench, like you can see it
Speaker 3: in the body language, like he is taking it as emotion.
Speaker 3: But I think that's kind of the key word here, right,
Speaker 3: Like the body language wasn't that great when he was
Speaker 3: a starter? Right like he was. He carries himself in
Speaker 3: a way that makes you feel like he is deserving
Speaker 3: of something, But we have to remember how young he
Speaker 3: is and that he needs to prove he deserves something still,
Speaker 3: and absolutely he should be taking it as a demotion.
Speaker 3: He should be looking at it as like, oh wow,
Speaker 3: I need to like really do something and wake up
Speaker 3: and show everyone that I'm not san diva. I'm not entitled.
Speaker 3: I don't think that I deserve everything. And I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that he acts like a diva, but like he
Speaker 3: had a real opportunity with the Jaess Human right now,
Speaker 3: like Isaiah Collier is taking that away and that's not
Speaker 3: anybody's fault but Kiante's.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 3: What's really interesting about Kiante, and I think is really obvious,
Speaker 3: is that there have been a couple of games when
Speaker 3: we've seen him try on defense, and there have been
Speaker 3: games where we've seen him really take care of the ball.
Speaker 3: And so it's not like we it's not like he
Speaker 3: has a game where it's like, oh, I don't know
Speaker 3: if he can do that, we have to still wait
Speaker 3: and see. It's like, no, we know that he can
Speaker 3: do it. It's just that he's not doing it. And
Speaker 3: so that's where the problem is with Kiante. I think
Speaker 3: that Kiante has all of the skill and potential to
Speaker 3: be a really good player, and it's just whether or
Speaker 3: not he's going to want it bad enough to do it.
Speaker 3: And some guys come into the league with that kind
Speaker 3: of skill and they're able to maximize all of it
Speaker 3: and they become really good players, Like you know, borderline
Speaker 3: all star is what you could see out of him.
Speaker 3: But if he's not going to use all of his
Speaker 3: skill and maximize all the potential that he has and
Speaker 3: really take a hold of the opportunity, then he probably
Speaker 3: will just end up as like a seventh man in
Speaker 3: the league. And that's not bad, but it's not as
Speaker 3: good as he can be. And so I think that
Speaker 3: that's like the message here right Like Will Hardy, I'm
Speaker 3: sure has said similar things, but he's not gonna, you know,
Speaker 3: just take take Keiante out of the starting lineup and
Speaker 3: put a rookie in his place and not have said
Speaker 3: things to him. And so I have to imagine that
Speaker 3: Kiante has heard all of this, and now we just
Speaker 3: have to see how he handles it from this point
Speaker 3: moving forward.
Speaker 1: There was a lot to like about Kyle Philipowski in college.
Speaker 2: The questions, as it always is, is will that translate
Speaker 2: to the pros when he's not thought to be some
Speaker 2: dynamite athlete with great speed and great explosiveness, But he's
Speaker 2: got good has good skill and in spurts and moments,
Speaker 2: it has translated, and certainly over the past month month
Speaker 2: and a half when he's had more opportunities, we've seen
Speaker 2: some really good games from Kyle Philipowski. Just same question,
Speaker 2: We're going to kind of run down the list of
Speaker 2: the young players because I'm talking in a minute as
Speaker 2: we sit here today early March. Where you'ah with the
Speaker 2: development of Kyle Philipowski.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Kyle's game has a ton of translatable
Speaker 3: attribute the passing, his footwork, his shooting. He's actually changed
Speaker 3: his shot release this season, and doing that during the
Speaker 3: course of an NBA season rather than the off season
Speaker 3: is really difficult, and so that shows initiative and some
Speaker 3: work ethic from him. But I think is really good
Speaker 3: to note the worst thing that Kyle has right now
Speaker 3: and it's just going to take time. It's the same
Speaker 3: with Cody Williams. He's not strong enough at all. He
Speaker 3: has to be stronger. He needs to gain strength, and
Speaker 3: he needs to be will to just like kind of
Speaker 3: put his body into plays a billion percent more than
Speaker 3: he is right now. Like we understand you can look
Speaker 3: at Kyle Philipowski and look at guys like you know,
Speaker 3: balance Unis or even Jalen Duran, who's the same age
Speaker 3: as Kyle philip Howski but is clearly stronger than him.
Speaker 3: Right from last night's game, he's just getting bullied, getting
Speaker 3: pushed around, and we know that there are times again
Speaker 3: we've seen there were moments where Kyle played. He was
Speaker 3: matched up with Jokic in a game earlier this season,
Speaker 3: and you could tell that he was really really trying to,
Speaker 3: you know, plant his feet and not get knocked off
Speaker 3: his spot, and he was using a little bit more
Speaker 3: forced and that's what you want to see from him
Speaker 3: the rest of the season. Like, we know you're going
Speaker 3: to get pushed around. You are not the strongest guy
Speaker 3: out there. Nobody thinks that you're going to be able
Speaker 3: to like hold up Jokic and keep him from getting
Speaker 3: to the basket. But you want to see him try.
Speaker 3: And then this offseason it's really about him gaining strength
Speaker 3: because that's probably where the big the biggest weakness in
Speaker 3: his game is.
Speaker 2: Let's stick with the good news before we move over
Speaker 2: to the space of maybe some things that are problematic.
Speaker 2: And you know, if there's one bright spot this year,
Speaker 2: if you're asking me for the best news, if you're
Speaker 2: a Jazz fan, It's what Walker's done.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You're three after a rough sophomore campaign, and it's got
Speaker 2: to be a bit of a relief, quite frankly, for
Speaker 2: the front office and the coaching staff to watch this
Speaker 2: young man approach this year, the way that he has
Speaker 2: put up monster numbers, and when he is not playing,
Speaker 2: the difference is stark. They do not guard the rim
Speaker 2: at all when Walker's on the sideline. So I feel
Speaker 2: like Walker has played his way into a clear part
Speaker 2: of the future and a clear piece to this puzzle.
Speaker 2: What's been the Sarah Todd take on watching Walker Kessler's
Speaker 2: evolution year three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. It's it's the best part
Speaker 3: of this season for the Jazz, the brightest spot. I'm
Speaker 3: working on a story about Walker, kind of a longer
Speaker 3: dive into what's been happening this season, and I think,
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot to be said about the
Speaker 3: strength that he's gained, the work that he's done, trying
Speaker 3: to use his voice more on the court, which helps
Speaker 3: the defense when he's out there too. But I think
Speaker 3: that the biggest difference has been like a mental shift
Speaker 3: for Walker. He went his first season coming into the
Speaker 3: league and just being like kind of I'm just glad
Speaker 3: to be here, right, and just appreciating every moment and
Speaker 3: not really paying attention to like results or individual stuff.
Speaker 3: But when he was out on the floor, just like
Speaker 3: trying his absolute hardest because he was so grateful to
Speaker 3: be here. And his second year, he started to overthink
Speaker 3: and he started to just look at things a little differently,
Speaker 3: and often he was pretty negative, and like he would
Speaker 3: say that himself, and I think that and he did
Speaker 3: like a really really intentional job over the offseason, talking
Speaker 3: with a sports psychologist working on just like different ways
Speaker 3: to center himself and try and approach every day, every game,
Speaker 3: every practice with gratitude rather than thinking about anything negative.
Speaker 3: And he said that, you know, I'm just going out
Speaker 3: to have fun and try to help the team. I'm
Speaker 3: trying not to think about anything else. And I think
Speaker 3: that the mental shift and focusing on the team's betterment
Speaker 3: rather than what is happening to him individually has really
Speaker 3: really changed. And I know that's kind of like a
Speaker 3: wu wu answer for like Walker being better this season,
Speaker 3: but I think it's a really big part of it.
Speaker 3: And he was really intentional with making that a.
Speaker 1: Part of it, all Right, I got to ask you
Speaker 1: about Cody.
Speaker 2: You know, I am certainly not one after being around
Speaker 2: this league as long as I have, I will not
Speaker 2: annoint nor dismiss a twenty year old no matter what,
Speaker 2: thirty six games in his pro career. But it just
Speaker 2: hasn't looked good. It really just you know, it's not
Speaker 2: just data, it's the eye test. He had a couple
Speaker 2: of passes last night where you're like, dude, what exactly
Speaker 2: were you seeing there?
Speaker 1: Are you concerned for a.
Speaker 2: Top ten pick to not necessarily show the organization or
Speaker 2: the fan base, in my opinion, enough consistent hope or
Speaker 2: are you still optimistic about what Cody can be.
Speaker 3: A little bit of both? Right, Like, absolutely, I'm concerned.
Speaker 3: I think that anybody who has been watching the Jazz
Speaker 3: or watching Cody, you can't not be concerned. At the
Speaker 3: same time, like, I recognize that he is a rookie.
Speaker 3: He's incredibly small. He kind of has the same thing
Speaker 3: as what we were talking about with Kyle. He he
Speaker 3: has to gain strength. The problem is is that like
Speaker 3: some of some of the guys with like his body type,
Speaker 3: he's so he's so slim. It just is going to
Speaker 3: take more time. But that's not to say that like
Speaker 3: slim guys can be force full and can't be good
Speaker 3: in the NBA. Right Like, one of the more recent
Speaker 3: guys that I think about is like Micheale Bridges, like
Speaker 3: not as tall but still really really slight frame was
Speaker 3: at least that skinny, if not skinnier coming into the
Speaker 3: league and was nearly a defensive Player of the Year,
Speaker 3: Like I think I'm pretty sure he was top three
Speaker 3: of the year that he was voted. And so, like
Speaker 3: the there are cases where guys with frames like that
Speaker 3: like can be good, and I think that that kind
Speaker 3: of is the mold of the Jesse for him, like
Speaker 3: being like a three and D wing, but he he
Speaker 3: also has like potential. I mean, I know that it
Speaker 3: hasn't looked good, but like I'm not completely really willing
Speaker 3: to write him off yet and I really really hope
Speaker 3: that we can see some more good stuff out of
Speaker 3: him next season. But I just don't think that he
Speaker 3: he has the tools to do it this season. And
Speaker 3: you know, I know that it's a small sample size
Speaker 3: when we think about like Taylor Hendrix playing in the
Speaker 3: first three game of this season, right, Like, that's it's
Speaker 3: insane to even really look at just three games and
Speaker 3: try and take anything out of it. But if you
Speaker 3: compare what Taylor Hendricks looked like just in the if
Speaker 3: you only looked in the first two games this season,
Speaker 3: compared to what he did last season, Like we're talking
Speaker 3: about a guy who, like he didn't even know how
Speaker 3: to run back on defense last year. Okay, but we're
Speaker 3: all very excited about the potential of Taylor Hendricks because
Speaker 3: of how different he looked, how much more how much
Speaker 3: more attention to detail he had just in a couple
Speaker 3: of games. And so for a guy like Cody where
Speaker 3: it looks so bad this season, I still think there's potential.
Speaker 3: And like, if we're going to be giving guys like
Speaker 3: Isaiah Collier or even Kyle Philipowski, and we think about
Speaker 3: Taylor Hendricks, if we're going to be giving them the
Speaker 3: benefit of the doubt about being projects or young guys
Speaker 3: that need more time to develop and aren't going to, like,
Speaker 3: you know, stand out exactly their rookie year. Think about
Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert right like, it looked horrible his rookie year,
Speaker 3: and so I'm still willing to give it some chance
Speaker 3: in some time, But you're absolutely right, Like, if you're
Speaker 3: watching it this year, you are concerned.
Speaker 1: kJ Martin's got a little something.
Speaker 2: And I've always thought that now, if he was a
Speaker 2: very important player, he wouldn't keep changing teams.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if they're long for him.
Speaker 2: But he is twenty four years old, which kind of
Speaker 2: fits the timeline. I mean, look, we talk about anybody
Speaker 2: who's now the first and the second year guys as
Speaker 2: if they're like forty, right, and you know, some of
Speaker 2: the players, like Colin's only twenty six, But at twenty
Speaker 2: four years old, kJ is still young. I think he
Speaker 2: has fourteen dunks already. I mean, he is such an
Speaker 2: elite athlete. Is there any chance that the Jazz are
Speaker 2: looking at kJ Martin is maybe something that they'll continue
Speaker 2: to look at and keep around for a few years.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's a really really interesting thing with kJ because
Speaker 3: I mean I know that Will, like so the first
Speaker 3: time I ever talked to kJ, I knew that, like,
Speaker 3: oh that's a Will hardy guy, because like the first
Speaker 3: words out of his mouth were, like, the most important
Speaker 3: thing to me is playing hard, no matter what the
Speaker 3: situation is, Like you just have to put an effort
Speaker 3: on the defensive end. It's like, Okay, well, we'll gonna
Speaker 3: like this guy. And like he's spent a lot of
Speaker 3: time in the last couple of years working on navigating
Speaker 3: screens and getting his body in better position on defense,
Speaker 3: and so he's making a lot of adjustments to kind
Speaker 3: of mold himself into a player that teams are going
Speaker 3: to want to keep around. And he's got a non
Speaker 3: guaranteed contract for next season, and he also has a
Speaker 3: January tenth, like fully guaranteed date, so the jeff could
Speaker 3: keep him around and try him out for a little
Speaker 3: while next season before they need to like make a
Speaker 3: full investment by January. And he's really he's just really interesting.
Speaker 3: He seems like the kind of guy that would be
Speaker 3: good for some of the young guys to have around.
Speaker 3: But it's like, do you want to spend eight million
Speaker 3: dollars on him next season? Depending on who you get
Speaker 3: in the draft and like positionally where he's going to be.
Speaker 3: It just there's a lot of moving parts, and I
Speaker 3: think it's going to be really interesting what the Jazz
Speaker 3: do with him. I don't know. I don't know exactly
Speaker 3: what they are going to do, but it's not like
Speaker 3: it's a really high number. It's also not the lowest number.
Speaker 3: And could they try out another, you know, young guy,
Speaker 3: and could they get someone in the draft that might
Speaker 3: be playing that position or And there's a lot of
Speaker 3: moving parts there, but he's definitely somebody that intrigues me,
Speaker 3: and I think that his attitude and his temperament are
Speaker 3: kind of exactly what the Jazz are looking for.
Speaker 2: Before I say you, Lewis, it is reported that the
Speaker 2: Jazz signed Jaden Springer to a three year deal. I'm
Speaker 2: sure based off of the way they've handled some of
Speaker 2: the other deals, there's not a lot of guarantees in it.
Speaker 1: But I'll just ask you the same question.
Speaker 2: Because we're focused on the group of young players who
Speaker 2: kind of know the deal with everybody else, is there
Speaker 2: a chance they're looking at Jaden Springer as a piece
Speaker 2: of the puzzle moving forward?
Speaker 3: Maybe I think that's more of like a tryout situation.
Speaker 3: You know, we saw what they did with like Kenny
Speaker 3: Lofton and Darius Beasley previously, and it's the same kind
Speaker 3: of deal. You know, it's non guaranteed through the two
Speaker 3: years after this season, But I also think that they're
Speaker 3: I don't have this like on like reported from anybody
Speaker 3: in the front office, but this is just my vibe,
Speaker 3: right Like, uh, If if I'm Kyante or Isaiah and
Speaker 3: I see them sign James Springer and I know that
Speaker 3: you know, Colin, Bryce Jordan, even Elijah Harclift like all
Speaker 3: of the other Guard Wing guys that are on the roster,
Speaker 3: if I see them sign James Springer and I see
Speaker 3: that they're giving him minute. If I'm somebody like Keyante,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm hoping that the message is well, absolutely not.
Speaker 3: I'm not let that guy get minutes over me, right Like,
Speaker 3: maybe it's just another kick in the pants because we've
Speaker 3: we've heard Will say what he likes about about Jadon
Speaker 3: Springer is his intensity and effort on defense, and I
Speaker 3: just like, don't think that's by mistake.
Speaker 2: Good stuff today, Sarah, Always appreciate the time. Keep stacking
Speaker 2: those trophies and we'll chat soon.
Speaker 3: Okay, Absolutely, thanks a lot.
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