Speaker 1: It's NIC's eyes, Dan Ray, I'm going in mazy Boston's
Speaker 1: news radio. Thanks, Suzanne. I can't thank you for those numbers.
Speaker 1: Pretty dark, dismal day, kind of a moon day on
Speaker 1: Wall Street. A lot of moaning and growning down there today,
Speaker 1: but there'll be no moaning and groaning on Nightside. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much, Suzanne. One of my pals here at WBZ.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Ray. I am the host of Nightside.
Speaker 1: Rob Brooks is the producer of this program. He is
Speaker 1: back at Broadcast Central in headquarters, the place where it
Speaker 1: all happens. I'm simply out somewhere remotely where no one
Speaker 1: can find me, broadcasting from the comfort of my own chair.
Speaker 1: And we have four great guests, four great topics this hour,
Speaker 1: and then we will at nine o'clock tonight talk about
Speaker 1: the passing of Pope Francis. We're going to talk with
Speaker 1: Father Jonathan Gaspar. He is the pastor of Saint Mary's
Speaker 1: of the Assumption Parish in Brookline. He's also a former
Speaker 1: secretary to Cardinal O'Malley and as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: when the last conclave was held in twenty thirteen which
Speaker 1: elevated Pope Francis, to the papacy. Father Jasper was there.
Speaker 1: He was not a participant in the conclave, but he
Speaker 1: had certainly a bird's eye see as to what was
Speaker 1: going on, and he'll be sharing that with us as
Speaker 1: well the legacy of Pope Francis later on. Then tonight,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about that thrilling space ride that
Speaker 1: Gail King and a few others took into outer space
Speaker 1: last week, and we'll talk about that and some of
Speaker 1: the backlash that poor Gail King was receiving from people
Speaker 1: for her. This was a mission, not just a ride
Speaker 1: in space. It was a mission, an eleven minute mission,
Speaker 1: but a mission nonetheless. All right, we are going to
Speaker 1: talk right now to Rachel Lacombe, who is a teacher,
Speaker 1: and Rihanna Berry, who's a student Lexington High School. Rachel's group,
Speaker 1: of which Rihanna is a member, took the crown at
Speaker 1: the Massachusetts state finals of the National Personal Finance Challenge
Speaker 1: hosted by the Council for Economic Education, and I wish
Speaker 1: some of those advisors in the White House would use
Speaker 1: Rihanna and her classmates on this whole question. This is
Speaker 1: an all female team that's going to compete in the
Speaker 1: national finals in June. So let me start off with
Speaker 1: the teacher, Rachel, you must be very proud of your students.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, These are actually incredible students, and the ladies have
Speaker 2: done a phenomenal job. And I want to give the
Speaker 2: credit to them because honestly, I kind of handled more
Speaker 2: of the administrative aspects of their competition. But these are
Speaker 2: highly motivated students who spend their free time doing this
Speaker 2: and learning strategies for saving, investing and budgeting. And but
Speaker 2: I can't I can't give them enough credit for how
Speaker 2: well they've done. And I'm very very proud of them.
Speaker 1: How many teams, how many members make up a team?
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's for but it probably is a difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah figure. Okay, well that's the first economic figure I'll
Speaker 1: get right tonight. So thank you for confirming that. So off,
Speaker 1: will you be able to go with your team? I
Speaker 1: believe the finals are somewhere. Is it in Atlanta where.
Speaker 2: You guys are head of Yeah? So we actual this
Speaker 2: just happened last week. It was last Tuesday that the
Speaker 2: girls competed and won the Massachusetts finals. So the next
Speaker 2: round of the competition is actually in Atlanta, Georgia and
Speaker 2: it's all expenses paid to Atlanta, Georgia. However, we do
Speaker 2: have one problem, which is very sad, is there's two
Speaker 2: seniors on the team and two juniors on the team.
Speaker 2: The two seniors, their graduation day is the exact actame
Speaker 2: day as a competition. So we're trying to figure out
Speaker 2: how we're going to manage moving forward, and you know,
Speaker 2: can we work out the timing for the seniors or
Speaker 2: do we have to find substitute? So yeah, I know
Speaker 2: it's really unfortunate. So we were still working through those
Speaker 2: kinks right now.
Speaker 1: That's like a couple of pictures in the Red Sox
Speaker 1: pitching staff coming down with needing Tommy John surgery. That's
Speaker 1: a big problem. Yeah, well, let's assume you can work
Speaker 1: it out, and let's get Rihanna involved here. Rihanna, are
Speaker 1: you one of the seniors or one of the juniors?
Speaker 3: Guy, I'm one of the juniors, So thank you. No
Speaker 3: matter what, I can go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your bag is packed and you're ready to go.
Speaker 3: Where are you ready to go?
Speaker 1: Where are you looking to go to college? With this
Speaker 1: on your resume? I assume that you probably have some
Speaker 1: pretty good grades, and where's your ideal college or do
Speaker 1: you have a handful that you're looking at.
Speaker 3: Not necessarily like set on a college at the moment.
Speaker 3: I'm still a junior. But in college around the New
Speaker 3: England area that has a good business program, I would
Speaker 3: be happy to attend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a few of them around. You'll find you
Speaker 1: find a good one. So what got you interested in
Speaker 1: finances and economic education. There's a lot of people come
Speaker 1: out of high school high school and they couldn't balance
Speaker 1: a check book, never mind talk about some of the
Speaker 1: issues and the uh, the items, the economic items that
Speaker 1: seem to be on your agenda.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the fact that we aren't necessarily required to
Speaker 3: be taught about finance in school was one of my
Speaker 3: motivations for joining my personal Finance club because it gave
Speaker 3: me the opportunity to learn about all these different financial
Speaker 3: topics like investing and checking accounts and all these different
Speaker 3: ideas at a younger age, so I would be more
Speaker 3: prepared in the future when I go out into the
Speaker 3: world as an adult. So that was my main motivation.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you're going to be very well prepared
Speaker 1: at this point. I'm hoping maybe the President will give
Speaker 1: you guys a call and bring it down to the
Speaker 1: White House and take some advice. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you if you watched the stock market today, but it
Speaker 1: was it was another bad day on Wall Street. The
Speaker 1: beers a wrecking havoc with people like me who have
Speaker 1: furrow one k's and I rais and things like that.
Speaker 1: So how long is the competition in Atlanta? Is that
Speaker 1: like over the weekend? I know, unfortunately you have the
Speaker 1: scheduled conflict for the couple of seniors on your team.
Speaker 1: How many other teams? Give me an idea about how
Speaker 1: many teams are you competing with? How many wins do
Speaker 1: you have to put up on the board to secure
Speaker 1: the national championship, which I'm convinced you'll win.
Speaker 3: Yes, So the competition is on June first and June second,
Speaker 3: so it's an overnight competition. And I'm not exactly sure,
Speaker 3: but I believe that each state has their first place
Speaker 3: winner from the state competition go to the nationals. So
Speaker 3: we're competing with hopefully I think around fifty teams, and
Speaker 3: we have to give a case presentation and then the
Speaker 3: top sixteen teams do a mini quiz bowl round will
Speaker 3: they answer like multiple choice questions? And then the top
Speaker 3: four win a prize, so I believe that's the way
Speaker 3: that it goes.
Speaker 2: Well, She's exactly right.
Speaker 1: I don't get what the rules of regulations are. I'm
Speaker 1: sure your team legacy in high school is bringing is
Speaker 1: going to bring home the gold to Massachusetts. I want
Speaker 1: to thank both of you for being here and both
Speaker 1: of you having an interest in some economics. And the
Speaker 1: reason I think economics in high school is so important
Speaker 1: is that my so secure. It depends upon your people,
Speaker 1: So please study hard. Thank you both so much. Rachel, thanks,
Speaker 1: thanks for teaching these kids and coaching them. And Rihanna. Thanks.
Speaker 1: You get a great personality and your smartest whip and
Speaker 1: the future is out before you. You're going to have
Speaker 1: a great life. And I'm sure I get to a
Speaker 1: great college. And congratulate you your teammates for us here
Speaker 1: on Night Side. I want to find out when you
Speaker 1: come back, we'll have you back and we can we can,
Speaker 1: we can share the glory with you. Okay. I'd love
Speaker 1: to have to come back as a champion, come back here,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, Okay, great, Thanks Rachel, Thanks Rihanna. We'll
Speaker 1: talk again. Thanks very much when we get back here.
Speaker 1: On Nightside, We're going to talk about the pros and
Speaker 1: cons of a new dating trend. I mean, the dating
Speaker 1: trends are coming at us fast and furious. This is
Speaker 1: called flood lighting, not gas lighting. Flood lighting. And we're
Speaker 1: going to talk with a dating and relationship coach and
Speaker 1: expert right after this break on Nightside. My name's Dan
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Speaker 1: All right, now we have another word ladies and gentlemen
Speaker 1: are going to deal with here on Nightside. Don't please,
Speaker 1: don't get confused. All of us have heard of the
Speaker 1: word moonlighting. Recently we learned about gas lighting. Now we
Speaker 1: have one more. It's called floodlighting. With us is dating
Speaker 1: and relationship coach and expert Jennifer Styers. Jennifer, I've never
Speaker 1: heard of floodlighting. But I'm not in the dating scene,
Speaker 1: so I guess they don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1: But sounds like it's a bit of a problem for
Speaker 1: a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I'm in the dating scene and
Speaker 4: I've never heard of it either. They like to make
Speaker 4: up these names for things that have been around for
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 1: So are these people who are doing who are the
Speaker 1: people who are making up these names? They're driving me nuts?
Speaker 4: I know, you know what, it's the dating companies. They
Speaker 4: literally do it to get stories like this. But but
Speaker 4: having said that, you know there is some thing behind
Speaker 4: all of this sough and and a trend that is happening,
Speaker 4: and they're blaming it on TikTok, but we are definitely
Speaker 4: seeing it. And this this the bloodlighting is the term
Speaker 4: is about oversharing. So it's like going on a first
Speaker 4: date and like jumping on your person all your emotional baggage,
Speaker 4: all the stuff that you know is on your mind,
Speaker 4: your insecurities are just doing it, you know, too soon
Speaker 4: in a relationship.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that that must probably pretty much assure there
Speaker 1: will be no second date. I assume.
Speaker 4: You would think, yeah, I mean it's it's definitely, Uh,
Speaker 4: it's definitely. It definitely happens. And I think we're kind
Speaker 4: of living in this dating stage of the dating world now.
Speaker 4: It's all about authenticity. And you do have a lot
Speaker 4: of YouTube and TikTok influencers and they're they're talking about, well,
Speaker 4: I feel this way and this's happened to me. And
Speaker 4: I think that there is a level of this is
Speaker 4: rubbing off on regular people in the world. Think something
Speaker 4: that they're doing might be overly important.
Speaker 1: You know, what you're saying is is rubbing off on
Speaker 1: normal people. I don't think that anybody who aspires to
Speaker 1: be a TikTok influencer is not within the realm of normalty, normality,
Speaker 1: I should say, as far as i'm what do you
Speaker 1: want to do when you grow up? You know, Billy,
Speaker 1: I'm on a TikTok influencer. Billy, I got news for
Speaker 1: your TikTok's not going to be around by time you
Speaker 1: turn twelve.
Speaker 4: Come on, they go, I'll tell you what. Some of
Speaker 4: them are making a lot of money.
Speaker 1: So, oh, you know something. I've been in the media
Speaker 1: my entire life, which is a really long time, and
Speaker 1: I still don't get it. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: why anybody. Well, first of all, TikTok isn't even run
Speaker 1: by anyone in our country. It's potentially big problems. But well,
Speaker 1: let's get back to flood lighting. I mentioned moonlighting. We
Speaker 1: all know what moonlighting is. Remember, by the way, the
Speaker 1: character in Field of Dreams Moonlight Graham. That was one
Speaker 1: of the great nicknames. To remember the movie. I hope
Speaker 1: with Kevin pr.
Speaker 4: Do not remember that character, but I remember the movie
Speaker 4: was amazing.
Speaker 1: Well he was. He was the fellow who was the
Speaker 1: young baseball player who walked off the field that he
Speaker 1: had wanted one game in the major leagues and became
Speaker 1: a doctor. He's the key to the plot of that
Speaker 1: particular movie Field of Dreams. But put that aside, and
Speaker 1: when we know about other types of lighting, So this
Speaker 1: is floodlighting, and you just sit down on your first
Speaker 1: date that you have fixed up through yourself. By the way,
Speaker 1: is it the floodlighting? Okay? Is it fifty to fifty
Speaker 1: between men and women or are you more likely to
Speaker 1: be flood lit if you're a female going out on
Speaker 1: the first date or a male going out of the
Speaker 1: first date. I wanted to wish to if it's a
Speaker 1: fifty to.
Speaker 4: Fifty break, it's a great question. I think it's probably
Speaker 4: going to be more women. But hey, sorry ladies, but
Speaker 4: but you know men.
Speaker 1: Are doing I'm glad. I'm glad you said that, Jennifer,
Speaker 1: not me, but thank you very much for clarifying.
Speaker 4: It is the truth. But but men are guilty of
Speaker 4: it too. I mean, at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: if somebody has got to overshare their issues, their problems,
Speaker 4: their past, their history, how their heart's been broken, how
Speaker 4: they've been used, you know, cheated on, that's somebody who's
Speaker 4: not healthy. And and you know the good thing about
Speaker 4: floodlighting is if somebody jumps on you that early you know,
Speaker 4: you know they're they're not healthy or ready for a relationship.
Speaker 4: You just run as fast as you can. That's it
Speaker 4: couldn't get any more of a you know, red flag.
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's really sad when you when you
Speaker 1: do think about it, that a lot of times you
Speaker 1: your people are in a bad relationship and they stay
Speaker 1: in the bad relationship and then when finally they're bitter
Speaker 1: that they stayed, and then it just comes and I
Speaker 1: don't know, psychologically, I guess it's a horrible circumstance to
Speaker 1: be in. And this look you can understand where people
Speaker 1: will We're all the creature of our own experiences, whether
Speaker 1: we're we have good experiences or bad experiences, and most
Speaker 1: of us like to talk about experiences because when we
Speaker 1: talk about ourselves, we're all wrapped up in our experiences.
Speaker 1: Where we've traveled, where we went to school, what our
Speaker 1: you know, dislikes and likes are. It's going to be
Speaker 1: so tough to be on the dating scene because if
Speaker 1: you are political, if you're a Democrat, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: going to date a Republican. If you're a Republican account
Speaker 1: data democrat, then then you put in flood lighting the
Speaker 1: only person only people. You can end up dating all
Speaker 1: your exes, which just puts you back and where you
Speaker 1: were before.
Speaker 4: Like a cycle, it is, and it really is. But
Speaker 4: you bring up a good point though, and it's good
Speaker 4: to say this. Everybody has a history, it's just whether
Speaker 4: they have a healthy you know, view of it, and
Speaker 4: they're healthy today. And a lot of people don't get
Speaker 4: healthy and instead go out and date to try to
Speaker 4: forget what happened or try to get happy or whatever
Speaker 4: it may be. And getting into a new relationship isn't
Speaker 4: going to do that. So you know that, and nobody
Speaker 4: wants to hear your problems and listen to you talk
Speaker 4: about your previous relationships all night. I can say I'm
Speaker 4: a matchmaker, and I can tell you there are times
Speaker 4: when people and a dating coach, and you know, people
Speaker 4: get off these dates and they're like, all they talked
Speaker 4: about was their ex the whole time, And guess what,
Speaker 4: that doesn't work for getting a second date, So no or.
Speaker 1: A second relationship. How can folks in my audience who
Speaker 1: were not floodline or gas lighters or moon lighters, how
Speaker 1: can they contact you, Jennifer and maybe get some help
Speaker 1: and and even if it's going to cost them a
Speaker 1: little bit of money for your professional guidance, how can
Speaker 1: they contact you?
Speaker 4: Well, my website is love l O V E j
Speaker 4: E n N lovegen dot com and there's a lot
Speaker 4: of information there, a lot of information there. And you know,
Speaker 4: I do want to say, go to my Facebook page.
Speaker 4: My personal page. I post every day, so we do
Speaker 4: a lot of coaching online. It's free, so that's a
Speaker 4: good place to go to and join the conversation.
Speaker 1: So what's the personal page? Love Jen as well? Is
Speaker 1: that the moniker?
Speaker 4: Actually it's actually Jennifer Steyer. Just my name S E
Speaker 4: y E R S Facebook.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, well, Jenna, I appreciate you've got a great
Speaker 1: sense of humor. You've got a great sense of humor,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the best attribute anyone can have.
Speaker 1: You know, it's great if they're good looking, don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, and if they're if they're fabulously wealthy, but
Speaker 1: sense of humors right up there, as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: right up there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Yes, we'll talk again, Thanks so much.
Speaker 3: Thanks, all right, thanks.
Speaker 1: When we get back, we're going to talk about this one.
Speaker 1: This one is going to be a little confusing, but
Speaker 1: you know me, I'm here to straighten it out for you.
Speaker 1: Gen X. For those of you, gen X are people
Speaker 1: born from ninety six to twenty twelve. They have a
Speaker 1: different attitude about dining from baby boomers and millennials. And
Speaker 1: we have a great guest coming up. He's a restaurant
Speaker 1: X industry expert and we're going to talk about this.
Speaker 1: His first name is Sheriff and believe Sheriff Mityas. So
Speaker 1: we will talk with him and we'll talk about how
Speaker 1: date how a restaurant trends. This one I could have
Speaker 1: figured out. Okay, basically gen X gen Z rather gen
Speaker 1: Z is more pecunious than many other of the previous
Speaker 1: gemist generations because they don't have the same amount of money. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what it's gonna come down to. But you watch.
Speaker 1: We'll talk with the expert, Sheriff Mityahs, right after the
Speaker 1: eight thirty news here on Nightside. It's Night Side with
Speaker 1: Dan Ray on.
Speaker 2: Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1: Well welcome, Sureiff Midyah sure if welcome to Nightside. How
Speaker 1: are you, sir?
Speaker 5: I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: So you're a restaurant industry expert and the CEO of
Speaker 1: Bricks Holdings b R. I X is that a company
Speaker 1: that has restaurants under management.
Speaker 5: We have lots of restaurants. In fact, we own the
Speaker 5: Friendlies chain that I'm sure many of your listeners have
Speaker 5: been to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well those all went out of business here in Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: What are they coming back? I hope. I like Friendlies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we unfortunately when we picked it up, there was
Speaker 5: a lot of stores missing in Massachusetts. But we're coming back.
Speaker 5: We have almost ninety five restaurants up and down the
Speaker 5: Eastern seaboard.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you, if you came back, friendly was
Speaker 1: always good. I mean they had great ice cream and
Speaker 1: they reasonably priced. I was a big fan of Friendlies.
Speaker 1: And I mean that seriously. I just happened to, you know,
Speaker 1: ask you that question. Kind of stumbled in the question.
Speaker 1: I did not know that you guys were picking up Friendlies.
Speaker 1: But bring them back there. They're originally a Massachusetts company,
Speaker 1: as you know. And anyway, so Generation X, we have
Speaker 1: to always describe gen xers are the young people. They're
Speaker 1: people who were born from nineteen ninety six to twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: so they're literally the youngest cohort of Americans other than
Speaker 1: whatever's coming behind them, Generation Alpha or something. And these folks,
Speaker 1: as I understand it, they have a different attitude then
Speaker 1: buy Baby Boomers and millennials, and I assume also Gen xers,
Speaker 1: which is jen Y. This is where it gets confusing.
Speaker 1: Gen Y are also the millennials, Then there's Gen X,
Speaker 1: then there's the boomers. I'm assuming this all has to
Speaker 1: do with the fact that Gen Z has less cash
Speaker 1: in their pockets. Am I being cynical when I say that,
Speaker 1: because I can be cynical?
Speaker 5: No? No, No, They're definitely more cash strapped. But remember
Speaker 5: this generation also grew up on their phones, right, And
Speaker 5: so where you and I would talk to folks when
Speaker 5: we're thinking out which restaurants should we go to and
Speaker 5: where should we go out to eat? And they look
Speaker 5: at everything on TikTok and on Instagram. That's when they
Speaker 5: look at their recommendations, right, And these TikTokers and influencers
Speaker 5: also telling them here's where you can share a meal. Right,
Speaker 5: you can go out with a friend, spend less than
Speaker 5: twenty bucks or ten bucks in certain cases, and fill
Speaker 5: yourself up. So this is where they're getting their knowledge,
Speaker 5: their information and they're using it to get you know,
Speaker 5: to still go out with friends, but to get good deals.
Speaker 1: So what can they get for to share with a
Speaker 1: friend for ten bucks, ramen, noodles or something.
Speaker 5: Well, it's funny because you also see a lot of
Speaker 5: restaurants now expanding their appetizer menu, what they call even
Speaker 5: shareables now on their menus, right because they're playing to
Speaker 5: this demographic where you can get some wings, you can
Speaker 5: get you know, not schows and fries that are a
Speaker 5: little bit more substantial, still inexpensively priced and can feed
Speaker 5: two or three folks.
Speaker 1: Well. Interesting, Interesting, I am, I'm kind of old school,
Speaker 1: because you probably would if you knew me, you'd figure
Speaker 1: that out. I worked as a TV reporter back in
Speaker 1: the seventies, eighties, nineties and into the two thousands before
Speaker 1: I took over this gig, and I was on the
Speaker 1: road all the time, and we knew every diner in
Speaker 1: New England, and as far as I'm concerned, if we
Speaker 1: could find a diner, you knew you were going to
Speaker 1: get a great meal at a reasonable price. Reasonable price.
Speaker 1: I am so sad at the disappearance of American diners.
Speaker 1: Are diners ever going to come back?
Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting. It's almost like the friendly story, right.
Speaker 5: There's nostalgia there, right, people know of these places right
Speaker 5: from when they grew up and then that you know,
Speaker 5: a lot of them went away. And you know, I
Speaker 5: think there's there's pockets of what makes a diner special
Speaker 5: it is coming back, right, which is there? There is
Speaker 5: places that are trying to become more affordable, that are
Speaker 5: trying to be you know, have that kind of good
Speaker 5: home experience at an affordable price. And it's just hard, right,
Speaker 5: It's just a restaurant business is hard. It's you know,
Speaker 5: labor and food costs going up and inflation. But when
Speaker 5: you get the experience right to your point, people remember
Speaker 5: you fondly. They want to come back.
Speaker 1: You know what one of my favorite restaurants is. And
Speaker 1: you're gonna laugh maybe at me, but I love all
Speaker 1: of gardens. I mean, must hiring restaurants, trust me. But
Speaker 1: to go out for dinner and get hit for the
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars restaurant bill for two meals and maybe
Speaker 1: a couple of glasses of wine, it's like almost obscene.
Speaker 5: It is it is. And so then that's why that's
Speaker 5: why you've got some of these brands coming back, All
Speaker 5: gardens doing what Chili's right, Chili's is having a resurgent
Speaker 5: Chili's and you know why not right there and they're
Speaker 5: touting though, this great deal for millennials and gen xers
Speaker 5: and gen Zers. It's ten ninety nine and you get
Speaker 5: a burger, fries and a drink perfect right.
Speaker 1: What why did why did Chilies fall out of favor?
Speaker 1: Why did all of garden fall fall out of favor?
Speaker 5: I mean well, I think again they lost they lost
Speaker 5: what they were good at.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: They tried to become an Olive Gardens case a little
Speaker 5: bit too high end. Right, people are not going for
Speaker 5: highand Italian to Olive Garden. Right, go back to what
Speaker 5: you what you're what people know you for, what you're
Speaker 5: good at, and that's that's what the brands that are
Speaker 5: that are doing well today. You know, be true to yourself.
Speaker 5: Don't try to be someone you're not. Don't try to
Speaker 5: go after a demographic that you have no business going after,
Speaker 5: because you won't get you won't get it, you won't
Speaker 5: make it.
Speaker 1: These the sort of restaurants that the Bricks Holdings, you're
Speaker 1: the CEO of Bricks Holdings. These are the sort of
Speaker 1: restaurants that that you trying to work with.
Speaker 5: We do, right, and so we have, like I said, Friendlies,
Speaker 5: We have Red Mango, which is a frozen yogurt concept
Speaker 5: of in the Northeast, we have and we we're in
Speaker 5: three hundred other locations across forty states. But we've got
Speaker 5: eight different brands and it's really working with different groups
Speaker 5: to really focus on what you're good at and to
Speaker 5: end snapping.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: So this is the other piece that's really big for
Speaker 5: this generation. No one wants to go out for a
Speaker 5: full meal, right you mentioned as well in certain cases
Speaker 5: it's just going out and getting a snack something you
Speaker 5: can afford. But you get the pleasure of going out
Speaker 5: and not just sitting at home and eating by yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know something, Sheriff, If it's okay with you,
Speaker 1: I might have my producer get back in touch with
Speaker 1: your your staff. And these interviews that we do in
Speaker 1: this hour, they're only fairly seven, eight, nine minutes, uh
Speaker 1: and then fly by. But maybe I'd like to have
Speaker 1: to come back some night and we can talk about
Speaker 1: restaurants and maybe my audience can tell you here and
Speaker 1: you know, we have a big audience up and down
Speaker 1: the East Coast root fifty thousand y if you were
Speaker 1: familiar with WBC. But we're new England based organization and
Speaker 1: maybe they can they can talk about some of these
Speaker 1: restaurants with you. I think people would be thrilled to
Speaker 1: find out that Friendlies is coming back. And I mean
Speaker 1: that seriously.
Speaker 6: That'd be great to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could. We could run sort of like almost
Speaker 1: like a little focus group for you, uh and let
Speaker 1: people call in and tell you what but they liked
Speaker 1: about some of these restaurants and maybe we can bring
Speaker 1: them back and make life a little a little better
Speaker 1: for my listeners and for your clients.
Speaker 5: Fair enough, I love it. Thank you for that opportunity.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll make that happen. Sheriff mid Yes, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. I love talking about food, but food
Speaker 1: it's affordable. You know, friends of mine telling me about
Speaker 1: all the fancy, spancy restaurants they go to and it's
Speaker 1: like it's tough to enjoy the meal, and they'll say,
Speaker 1: oh that real lovely. Yeah, it should be lovely when
Speaker 1: it's a sixty dollars steak. I mean I can't. It
Speaker 1: should be lovely when it's a twenty dollars steak in
Speaker 1: my opinion. Sheriff, thanks so much. I enjoyed our conversation.
Speaker 5: Talk again, thank you.
Speaker 1: Very much, very much. Nice to talk with you as well.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break and we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about the story of the day coming up,
Speaker 1: the passing of Pope Francis early this morning, about twenty
Speaker 1: four hours ago. Was around the time when he was passing.
Speaker 1: It was some Monday morning. I'm going to talk Professor
Speaker 1: Hugh Schmaltz. He is a religious studies professor at the
Speaker 1: College of Holy Cross in Worcester. We'll be back with
Speaker 1: Professor Schmaltz and after that we're going to also talk
Speaker 1: about in the nine o'clock hour of the passing of
Speaker 1: Pope Francis with the pastor of Saint Mary's Parish, Saint
Speaker 1: Mary's Parish of the of the Assumption Parish in Brookline,
Speaker 1: and we're going to be talking with the pastor who
Speaker 1: is the former secretary of Cardinal O'Malley and Father Jonathan
Speaker 1: Gasper was in Rome, not as a voter, but certainly
Speaker 1: as a participant in the entire process of the conclave.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that. Gonna have a lot of
Speaker 1: great information for you. Next, I will call your friends
Speaker 1: and tell him the turn on Nightside. Back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Right after this, you're on Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm
Speaker 1: w b Z, Boston's news radio. Well, the big news
Speaker 1: story of today in this country and also nashally, was
Speaker 1: the passing of Pope Francis. Died at the age of
Speaker 1: eighty and it was about twenty four hours ago that
Speaker 1: apparently he suffered some form of a cerebral hemorrhage and
Speaker 1: then that led to him put him in a coma
Speaker 1: and then heart failure. I guess for the probably old
Speaker 1: age is also contributing factor with us as Professor Matthew
Speaker 1: Small's professor of religious studies at the College of Holy
Speaker 1: Cross in Worcester. Yet us worried there for a second.
Speaker 1: Professor Smalls, my producer, was saying, I haven't been able
Speaker 1: to reach him yet. I hope everything's okay.
Speaker 6: Everything's okay, Sorry about that.
Speaker 1: Just no, I've I'll bet, I'll bet it has been. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that he passed sometime around midnight last night.
Speaker 1: I know that it first was announced this morning, you know,
Speaker 1: with the time difference, obviously he spent a very active.
Speaker 1: Final day on Easter, you know, heard at the Vatican
Speaker 1: blessed the crowd, spoke briefly. He also had met with
Speaker 1: the Vice President of the United States. I believe that
Speaker 1: meeting was Sunday morning, maybe it was late Saturday. But
Speaker 1: he kept a full schedule right until the end of
Speaker 1: pretty characteristic of a man of eighty eight years of age,
Speaker 1: who who literally you know, you know, stayed active right
Speaker 1: until the very end.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. And he always wanted to be a
Speaker 6: pope of the people, and I think his last few
Speaker 6: days showed that he wanted to be with the faithful
Speaker 6: in Saint Peter's Square, even though he knew that his
Speaker 6: health was failing. So it was very powerful moment, I think,
Speaker 6: and something for us all to reflect on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a very different pope, at least the popes. You're
Speaker 1: the expert. I'm simply an imperfect Catholic who was taught
Speaker 1: by nuns for the for eight first eight years of
Speaker 1: my education, Sisters of Charity of Nazareth. And I remember,
Speaker 1: you know Pope John the twenty third and pious out
Speaker 1: of the sixth, and you know John Paul one and
Speaker 1: of course John Paul two, and I actually remember I
Speaker 1: think Pious the twelfth a little bit back in the
Speaker 1: low fifties. So where would you put this pope? He
Speaker 1: certainly took the church in a different direction. But there's
Speaker 1: there's a new pope coming. We don't know who it's
Speaker 1: going to be. Do you think that new pope he
Speaker 1: appointed about I guess eighty percent of the College of
Speaker 1: Cardinals that can vote in the election, those under the
Speaker 1: age of eighty, you think that they will basically pick
Speaker 1: someone who's going to carry on his traditional will they,
Speaker 1: you know, move the moved the church back a little
Speaker 1: bit in the other direction? You know?
Speaker 6: You yeah, well that's yeah, that's the question. And let
Speaker 6: me say you're in good company, because I'm an imperfect
Speaker 6: Catholic too. I think the College of Cardinals, all one
Speaker 6: hundred and thirty eight of them who are allowed to vote,
Speaker 6: was a majority of them were appointed by Po Francis.
Speaker 6: But I'm not sure there'll be a kind of rubber
Speaker 6: stamp or a pot Francis clone that we should expect.
Speaker 6: The cardinals come from all parts of the Catholic world,
Speaker 6: and so many of them don't know the ways and
Speaker 6: workings of the Vatican in Rome, so we might see
Speaker 6: a longer conclave, one that will take a while to
Speaker 6: resolve itself. I personally think instead of choosing a carbon
Speaker 6: copy of Po Francis or choosing someone who's going to
Speaker 6: push back on his reforms, that the Catholic Church and
Speaker 6: the cardinals will want to take a breather in some
Speaker 6: ways and elect someone who has the pastoral or personal
Speaker 6: sensitivities that Po. Francis did, but is not going to
Speaker 6: make substantial doctrinal changes. It'll take decades for Pro Frances's
Speaker 6: reforms to settle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the things that he would say,
Speaker 1: and then there'd be a clarification. That's kind of the
Speaker 1: way the Vatican works, you know. He says something that
Speaker 1: the media jumps on and says, oh, the Church has
Speaker 1: now changed his position on this, And when they sifted
Speaker 1: through whatever the encyclical was and it was translated from
Speaker 1: the Latin back to the English, it wasn't quite as dramatic.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems it seems to me any chance.
Speaker 1: I guess we have seventeen US cardinals, which is a
Speaker 1: pretty well ten of them eligible to vote. None of
Speaker 1: the only one that I really have a sense of
Speaker 1: is Cardinal Dolan of New York. Is it time for
Speaker 1: an American pope?
Speaker 6: I hate to say this, but I think it is
Speaker 6: not time for an American pope. So I like Cardinal
Speaker 6: Dolan very much, and he sent me some very sweet
Speaker 6: letters sometimes about my writings. I think what we'll see, however,
Speaker 6: is someone like Cardinal Dolan being a kingmaker, someone who
Speaker 6: can bring people together around a particular candidate. But I
Speaker 6: think the issue is with the United States, apart from
Speaker 6: anything else, is that the United States has just too
Speaker 6: much geopolitical power, and so the Vatican is going to
Speaker 6: want to maintain balance, and aligning itself with the United
Speaker 6: States in such a way might be seen to bring
Speaker 6: things out of balance.
Speaker 1: I covered Cardinal Law back in the day. The truth
Speaker 1: scandal was actually covered his elevation in Rome, and for
Speaker 1: a long time I thought I traveled with him, traveled
Speaker 1: to Poland, traveled to Northern Ireland, traveled to Italy, obviously,
Speaker 1: and I always thought he was campaigning for it, that
Speaker 1: it would mean these other cardinals. There is a political
Speaker 1: veneer to this that probably no one really wants to
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 6: No, you're exactly right. There is politicking, and you know
Speaker 6: it's bad. Form to put yourself forward as a candidate.
Speaker 6: And there's a saying in Rome, I think that goes
Speaker 6: he who goes into the conclave of Pope comes out
Speaker 6: a cardinal. But just because you can't campaign for yourself
Speaker 6: doesn't mean that people won't campaign for you. And so
Speaker 6: certainly there'll be factions, people jockeying for position, and it
Speaker 6: may take a while to see how this all plays out,
Speaker 6: simply because the College of Cardinals is so diverse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the betting favorite. I was doing my
Speaker 1: research today. There's a lot of talk about this six
Speaker 1: seven year old cardinal for the Philippines.
Speaker 6: Exactly would he.
Speaker 1: Be the betting favorite and does that automatic eliminate him
Speaker 1: if you become the betting favorite.
Speaker 6: Well, maybe it does. I like Cardinal Toglay, the former
Speaker 6: Archbishop of Manila, very much, and he's very much in
Speaker 6: the mold of Pope Francis, and he does hold an
Speaker 6: office in the Vatican that deals with bishops, so people
Speaker 6: do know him, and so it would be easy to
Speaker 6: point to him as an early candidate who might actually
Speaker 6: be elected pope because he's very much cut in the
Speaker 6: mold of Pope Francis, and many people know him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be fascinating to watch, that is
Speaker 1: for sure. I'd love to have you back periodically if
Speaker 1: that's possible. I'm sure you your time is going to
Speaker 1: be great. But yeah, I I sometime if I can
Speaker 1: talk to you privately, I can tell you some interesting stories.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we can.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Studying with nuns, I think is is you know something
Speaker 6: that there'll be a lot of stories about.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if you had any of the
Speaker 1: Fine Sisters as your primary educators. But one thing you learned.
Speaker 1: You learn the basics of writing, reading, writing, and arithmetic,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. At least I did. I we used to.
Speaker 1: You know, you'd be able to to parse those sentences
Speaker 1: on the blackboard, the nouns and the verbs and the
Speaker 1: adverbs and the adjectives and oh.
Speaker 6: You yeah across your knuckles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, oh absolutely they still bruised. I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed the conversation. You got a sense of humor as well,
Speaker 1: Professor Matthew Schmaltz holy Cross, you represented the whole the
Speaker 1: Crusaders very well. They still got the nickname up there.
Speaker 1: They thinking of changing that. That's the only question.
Speaker 6: There's always discussion about changing it, and I like if.
Speaker 1: I like the nickname. I'm kind of old schools. I
Speaker 1: have a lot of friends.
Speaker 6: I mean, alumni are very divided about this. Older alumni.
Speaker 6: I wanted to keep it a younger alumni. I want it.
Speaker 6: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. Thanks again, Professor Matthews, Chris,
Speaker 1: thanks very much. Will we get back. We're going to
Speaker 1: talk with father the pastor Jonathan Gaspard, pastor of Saint
Speaker 1: Mary's of the Assumption, Paris and Brookline, former secretary to
Speaker 1: Cardinal Weal Maley. He was in Rome for the last
Speaker 1: conclave that chose Pope Francis, and he met Pope Francis,
Speaker 1: and we're going to have a conversation with him and
Speaker 1: with you in the nine o'clock hour. Feel free to
Speaker 1: join the conversation. You can light up those lines beginning now.
Speaker 1: Back after this