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<v Speaker 1>It's NIC's eyes, Dan Ray, I'm going in mazy Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>news radio. Thanks, Suzanne. I can't thank you for those numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty dark, dismal day, kind of a moon day on

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street. A lot of moaning and growning down there today,

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<v Speaker 1>but there'll be no moaning and groaning on Nightside. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much, Suzanne. One of my pals here at WBZ.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Dan Ray. I am the host of Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Brooks is the producer of this program. He is

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<v Speaker 1>back at Broadcast Central in headquarters, the place where it

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<v Speaker 1>all happens. I'm simply out somewhere remotely where no one

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<v Speaker 1>can find me, broadcasting from the comfort of my own chair.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have four great guests, four great topics this hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we will at nine o'clock tonight talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the passing of Pope Francis. We're going to talk with

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<v Speaker 1>Father Jonathan Gaspar. He is the pastor of Saint Mary's

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<v Speaker 1>of the Assumption Parish in Brookline. He's also a former

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<v Speaker 1>secretary to Cardinal O'Malley and as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>when the last conclave was held in twenty thirteen which

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<v Speaker 1>elevated Pope Francis, to the papacy. Father Jasper was there.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not a participant in the conclave, but he

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<v Speaker 1>had certainly a bird's eye see as to what was

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<v Speaker 1>going on, and he'll be sharing that with us as

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<v Speaker 1>well the legacy of Pope Francis later on. Then tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about that thrilling space ride that

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<v Speaker 1>Gail King and a few others took into outer space

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<v Speaker 1>last week, and we'll talk about that and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the backlash that poor Gail King was receiving from people

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<v Speaker 1>for her. This was a mission, not just a ride

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<v Speaker 1>in space. It was a mission, an eleven minute mission,

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<v Speaker 1>but a mission nonetheless. All right, we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk right now to Rachel Lacombe, who is a teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>and Rihanna Berry, who's a student Lexington High School. Rachel's group,

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<v Speaker 1>of which Rihanna is a member, took the crown at

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<v Speaker 1>the Massachusetts state finals of the National Personal Finance Challenge

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<v Speaker 1>hosted by the Council for Economic Education, and I wish

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<v Speaker 1>some of those advisors in the White House would use

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<v Speaker 1>Rihanna and her classmates on this whole question. This is

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<v Speaker 1>an all female team that's going to compete in the

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<v Speaker 1>national finals in June. So let me start off with

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<v Speaker 1>the teacher, Rachel, you must be very proud of your students.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, These are actually incredible students, and the ladies have

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<v Speaker 2>done a phenomenal job. And I want to give the

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<v Speaker 2>credit to them because honestly, I kind of handled more

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<v Speaker 2>of the administrative aspects of their competition. But these are

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<v Speaker 2>highly motivated students who spend their free time doing this

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<v Speaker 2>and learning strategies for saving, investing and budgeting. And but

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<v Speaker 2>I can't I can't give them enough credit for how

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<v Speaker 2>well they've done. And I'm very very proud of them.

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<v Speaker 1>How many teams, how many members make up a team?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing it's for but it probably is a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah figure. Okay, well that's the first economic figure I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get right tonight. So thank you for confirming that. So off,

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<v Speaker 1>will you be able to go with your team? I

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<v Speaker 1>believe the finals are somewhere. Is it in Atlanta where.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are head of Yeah? So we actual this

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<v Speaker 2>just happened last week. It was last Tuesday that the

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<v Speaker 2>girls competed and won the Massachusetts finals. So the next

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<v Speaker 2>round of the competition is actually in Atlanta, Georgia and

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<v Speaker 2>it's all expenses paid to Atlanta, Georgia. However, we do

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<v Speaker 2>have one problem, which is very sad, is there's two

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<v Speaker 2>seniors on the team and two juniors on the team.

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<v Speaker 2>The two seniors, their graduation day is the exact actame

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<v Speaker 2>day as a competition. So we're trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>how we're going to manage moving forward, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>can we work out the timing for the seniors or

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<v Speaker 2>do we have to find substitute? So yeah, I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's really unfortunate. So we were still working through those

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<v Speaker 2>kinks right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like a couple of pictures in the Red Sox

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<v Speaker 1>pitching staff coming down with needing Tommy John surgery. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a big problem. Yeah, well, let's assume you can work

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<v Speaker 1>it out, and let's get Rihanna involved here. Rihanna, are

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<v Speaker 1>you one of the seniors or one of the juniors?

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<v Speaker 3>Guy, I'm one of the juniors, So thank you. No

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<v Speaker 3>matter what, I can go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, your bag is packed and you're ready to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are you ready to go?

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you looking to go to college? With this

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<v Speaker 1>on your resume? I assume that you probably have some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good grades, and where's your ideal college or do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a handful that you're looking at.

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<v Speaker 3>Not necessarily like set on a college at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still a junior. But in college around the New

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<v Speaker 3>England area that has a good business program, I would

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<v Speaker 3>be happy to attend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a few of them around. You'll find you

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<v Speaker 1>find a good one. So what got you interested in

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<v Speaker 1>finances and economic education. There's a lot of people come

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<v Speaker 1>out of high school high school and they couldn't balance

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<v Speaker 1>a check book, never mind talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>issues and the uh, the items, the economic items that

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be on your agenda.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So the fact that we aren't necessarily required to

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<v Speaker 3>be taught about finance in school was one of my

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<v Speaker 3>motivations for joining my personal Finance club because it gave

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<v Speaker 3>me the opportunity to learn about all these different financial

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<v Speaker 3>topics like investing and checking accounts and all these different

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<v Speaker 3>ideas at a younger age, so I would be more

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<v Speaker 3>prepared in the future when I go out into the

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<v Speaker 3>world as an adult. So that was my main motivation.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you're going to be very well prepared

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. I'm hoping maybe the President will give

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<v Speaker 1>you guys a call and bring it down to the

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<v Speaker 1>White House and take some advice. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you watched the stock market today, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was another bad day on Wall Street. The

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<v Speaker 1>beers a wrecking havoc with people like me who have

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<v Speaker 1>furrow one k's and I rais and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So how long is the competition in Atlanta? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>like over the weekend? I know, unfortunately you have the

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled conflict for the couple of seniors on your team.

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<v Speaker 1>How many other teams? Give me an idea about how

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<v Speaker 1>many teams are you competing with? How many wins do

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<v Speaker 1>you have to put up on the board to secure

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<v Speaker 1>the national championship, which I'm convinced you'll win.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So the competition is on June first and June second,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's an overnight competition. And I'm not exactly sure,

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<v Speaker 3>but I believe that each state has their first place

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<v Speaker 3>winner from the state competition go to the nationals. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're competing with hopefully I think around fifty teams, and

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<v Speaker 3>we have to give a case presentation and then the

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<v Speaker 3>top sixteen teams do a mini quiz bowl round will

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<v Speaker 3>they answer like multiple choice questions? And then the top

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<v Speaker 3>four win a prize, so I believe that's the way

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<v Speaker 3>that it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, She's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get what the rules of regulations are. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure your team legacy in high school is bringing is

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<v Speaker 1>going to bring home the gold to Massachusetts. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank both of you for being here and both

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<v Speaker 1>of you having an interest in some economics. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I think economics in high school is so important

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<v Speaker 1>is that my so secure. It depends upon your people,

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<v Speaker 1>So please study hard. Thank you both so much. Rachel, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for teaching these kids and coaching them. And Rihanna. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>You get a great personality and your smartest whip and

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<v Speaker 1>the future is out before you. You're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a great life. And I'm sure I get to a

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<v Speaker 1>great college. And congratulate you your teammates for us here

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<v Speaker 1>on Night Side. I want to find out when you

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<v Speaker 1>come back, we'll have you back and we can we can,

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<v Speaker 1>we can share the glory with you. Okay. I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to have to come back as a champion, come back here,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, Okay, great, Thanks Rachel, Thanks Rihanna. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk again. Thanks very much when we get back here.

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<v Speaker 1>On Nightside, We're going to talk about the pros and

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<v Speaker 1>cons of a new dating trend. I mean, the dating

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<v Speaker 1>trends are coming at us fast and furious. This is

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<v Speaker 1>called flood lighting, not gas lighting. Flood lighting. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk with a dating and relationship coach and

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<v Speaker 1>expert right after this break on Nightside. My name's Dan

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back with some interesting discussion of floodlighting. I

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now we have another word ladies and gentlemen

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<v Speaker 1>don't get confused. All of us have heard of the

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<v Speaker 1>word moonlighting. Recently we learned about gas lighting. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>have one more. It's called floodlighting. With us is dating

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<v Speaker 1>and relationship coach and expert Jennifer Styers. Jennifer, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of floodlighting. But I'm not in the dating scene,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess they don't have to worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But sounds like it's a bit of a problem for

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know what, I'm in the dating scene and

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<v Speaker 4>I've never heard of it either. They like to make

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<v Speaker 4>up these names for things that have been around for

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<v Speaker 4>a while.

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<v Speaker 1>So are these people who are doing who are the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are making up these names? They're driving me nuts?

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<v Speaker 4>I know, you know what, it's the dating companies. They

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<v Speaker 4>literally do it to get stories like this. But but

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<v Speaker 4>having said that, you know there is some thing behind

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<v Speaker 4>all of this sough and and a trend that is happening,

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<v Speaker 4>and they're blaming it on TikTok, but we are definitely

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<v Speaker 4>seeing it. And this this the bloodlighting is the term

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<v Speaker 4>is about oversharing. So it's like going on a first

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<v Speaker 4>date and like jumping on your person all your emotional baggage,

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<v Speaker 4>all the stuff that you know is on your mind,

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<v Speaker 4>your insecurities are just doing it, you know, too soon

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<v Speaker 4>in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that that must probably pretty much assure there

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<v Speaker 1>will be no second date. I assume.

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<v Speaker 4>You would think, yeah, I mean it's it's definitely, Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>it's definitely. It definitely happens. And I think we're kind

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<v Speaker 4>of living in this dating stage of the dating world now.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all about authenticity. And you do have a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of YouTube and TikTok influencers and they're they're talking about, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel this way and this's happened to me. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think that there is a level of this is

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<v Speaker 4>rubbing off on regular people in the world. Think something

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<v Speaker 4>that they're doing might be overly important.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what you're saying is is rubbing off on

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<v Speaker 1>normal people. I don't think that anybody who aspires to

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, they go, I'll tell you what. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>So, oh, you know something. I've been in the media

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<v Speaker 1>by anyone in our country. It's potentially big problems. But well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to flood lighting. I mentioned moonlighting. We

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<v Speaker 1>all know what moonlighting is. Remember, by the way, the

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<v Speaker 1>character in Field of Dreams Moonlight Graham. That was one

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<v Speaker 4>Do not remember that character, but I remember the movie

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<v Speaker 1>Well he was. He was the fellow who was the

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<v Speaker 1>particular movie Field of Dreams. But put that aside, and

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<v Speaker 1>date that you have fixed up through yourself. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is it the floodlighting? Okay? Is it fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>first date. I wanted to wish to if it's a

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<v Speaker 4>Fifty break, it's a great question. I think it's probably

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<v Speaker 4>going to be more women. But hey, sorry ladies, but

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<v Speaker 4>but you know men.

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<v Speaker 1>Are doing I'm glad. I'm glad you said that, Jennifer,

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<v Speaker 4>It is the truth. But but men are guilty of

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<v Speaker 4>floodlighting is if somebody jumps on you that early you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you know they're they're not healthy or ready for a relationship.

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<v Speaker 4>You just run as fast as you can. That's it

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't get any more of a you know, red flag.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of it's really sad when you when you

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<v Speaker 1>Where we've traveled, where we went to school, what our

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<v Speaker 1>you know, dislikes and likes are. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>you are political, if you're a Democrat, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to date a Republican. If you're a Republican account

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<v Speaker 1>data democrat, then then you put in flood lighting the

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<v Speaker 1>only person only people. You can end up dating all

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<v Speaker 1>your exes, which just puts you back and where you

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<v Speaker 4>Like a cycle, it is, and it really is. But

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<v Speaker 4>you bring up a good point though, and it's good

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<v Speaker 4>to say this. Everybody has a history, it's just whether

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<v Speaker 4>they have a healthy you know, view of it, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're healthy today. And a lot of people don't get

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<v Speaker 4>healthy and instead go out and date to try to

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<v Speaker 4>forget what happened or try to get happy or whatever

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<v Speaker 4>it may be. And getting into a new relationship isn't

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<v Speaker 4>going to do that. So you know that, and nobody

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<v Speaker 4>wants to hear your problems and listen to you talk

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<v Speaker 4>about your previous relationships all night. I can say I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a matchmaker, and I can tell you there are times

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<v Speaker 4>when people and a dating coach, and you know, people

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<v Speaker 4>get off these dates and they're like, all they talked

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<v Speaker 4>about was their ex the whole time, And guess what,

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't work for getting a second date, So no or.

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<v Speaker 1>A second relationship. How can folks in my audience who

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<v Speaker 1>were not floodline or gas lighters or moon lighters, how

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<v Speaker 1>can they contact you, Jennifer and maybe get some help

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<v Speaker 1>and and even if it's going to cost them a

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<v Speaker 4>I do want to say, go to my Facebook page.

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<v Speaker 4>My personal page. I post every day, so we do

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of coaching online. It's free, so that's a

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<v Speaker 4>good place to go to and join the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the personal page? Love Jen as well? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that the moniker?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, great, well, Jenna, I appreciate you've got a great

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<v Speaker 1>sense of humor. You've got a great sense of humor,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's the best attribute anyone can have.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's great if they're good looking, don't get

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong, and if they're if they're fabulously wealthy, but

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<v Speaker 1>right up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Yes, we'll talk again, Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks, all right, thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>When we get back, we're going to talk about this one.

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<v Speaker 1>you know me, I'm here to straighten it out for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Gen X. For those of you, gen X are people

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<v Speaker 1>born from ninety six to twenty twelve. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>we have a great guest coming up. He's a restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>His first name is Sheriff and believe Sheriff Mityas. So

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<v Speaker 1>date how a restaurant trends. This one I could have

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<v Speaker 1>figured out. Okay, basically gen X gen Z rather gen

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<v Speaker 1>Z is more pecunious than many other of the previous

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<v Speaker 1>gemist generations because they don't have the same amount of money. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it's gonna come down to. But you watch.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk with the expert, Sheriff Mityahs, right after the

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<v Speaker 1>eight thirty news here on Nightside. It's Night Side with

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<v Speaker 2>Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Well welcome, Sureiff Midyah sure if welcome to Nightside. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're a restaurant industry expert and the CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>Bricks Holdings b R. I X is that a company

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<v Speaker 1>that has restaurants under management.

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<v Speaker 5>We have lots of restaurants. In fact, we own the

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<v Speaker 5>Friendlies chain that I'm sure many of your listeners have

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well those all went out of business here in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they coming back? I hope. I like Friendlies.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we unfortunately when we picked it up, there was

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of stores missing in Massachusetts. But we're coming back.

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<v Speaker 5>We have almost ninety five restaurants up and down the

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll tell you, if you came back, friendly was

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<v Speaker 1>always good. I mean they had great ice cream and

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<v Speaker 1>they reasonably priced. I was a big fan of Friendlies.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean that seriously. I just happened to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know that you guys were picking up Friendlies.

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<v Speaker 1>But bring them back there. They're originally a Massachusetts company,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know. And anyway, so Generation X, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to always describe gen xers are the young people. They're

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<v Speaker 1>so they're literally the youngest cohort of Americans other than

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<v Speaker 1>whatever's coming behind them, Generation Alpha or something. And these folks,

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<v Speaker 1>as I understand it, they have a different attitude then

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<v Speaker 1>which is jen Y. This is where it gets confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>Gen Y are also the millennials, Then there's Gen X,

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<v Speaker 1>then there's the boomers. I'm assuming this all has to

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<v Speaker 1>in their pockets. Am I being cynical when I say that,

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<v Speaker 5>No? No, No, They're definitely more cash strapped. But remember

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<v Speaker 5>this generation also grew up on their phones, right, And

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<v Speaker 5>so where you and I would talk to folks when

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<v Speaker 5>we're thinking out which restaurants should we go to and

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<v Speaker 5>where should we go out to eat? And they look

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<v Speaker 5>at everything on TikTok and on Instagram. That's when they

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<v Speaker 5>look at their recommendations, right, And these TikTokers and influencers

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<v Speaker 5>also telling them here's where you can share a meal. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>you can go out with a friend, spend less than

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<v Speaker 5>twenty bucks or ten bucks in certain cases, and fill

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<v Speaker 5>yourself up. So this is where they're getting their knowledge,

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<v Speaker 5>their information and they're using it to get you know,

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<v Speaker 5>to still go out with friends, but to get good deals.

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<v Speaker 1>So what can they get for to share with a

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's funny because you also see a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>restaurants now expanding their appetizer menu, what they call even

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<v Speaker 5>shareables now on their menus, right because they're playing to

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<v Speaker 5>this demographic where you can get some wings, you can

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<v Speaker 5>get you know, not schows and fries that are a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit more substantial, still inexpensively priced and can feed

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Interesting, Interesting, I am, I'm kind of old school,

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<v Speaker 1>because you probably would if you knew me, you'd figure

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<v Speaker 1>that out. I worked as a TV reporter back in

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies, eighties, nineties and into the two thousands before

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<v Speaker 1>road all the time, and we knew every diner in

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<v Speaker 1>could find a diner, you knew you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>get a great meal at a reasonable price. Reasonable price.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so sad at the disappearance of American diners.

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<v Speaker 1>Are diners ever going to come back?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's interesting. It's almost like the friendly story, right.

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<v Speaker 5>There's nostalgia there, right, people know of these places right

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<v Speaker 5>from when they grew up and then that you know,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of them went away. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>think there's there's pockets of what makes a diner special

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<v Speaker 5>it is coming back, right, which is there? There is

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<v Speaker 5>places that are trying to become more affordable, that are

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<v Speaker 5>It's just a restaurant business is hard. It's you know,

419
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<v Speaker 5>labor and food costs going up and inflation. But when

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<v Speaker 5>you get the experience right to your point, people remember

421
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<v Speaker 5>you fondly. They want to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what one of my favorite restaurants is. And

423
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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna laugh maybe at me, but I love all

424
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<v Speaker 1>of gardens. I mean, must hiring restaurants, trust me. But

425
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<v Speaker 1>to go out for dinner and get hit for the

426
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<v Speaker 1>two hundred dollars restaurant bill for two meals and maybe

427
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<v Speaker 1>a couple of glasses of wine, it's like almost obscene.

428
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<v Speaker 5>It is it is. And so then that's why that's

429
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<v Speaker 5>why you've got some of these brands coming back, All

430
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<v Speaker 5>gardens doing what Chili's right, Chili's is having a resurgent

431
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<v Speaker 5>Chili's and you know why not right there and they're

432
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<v Speaker 5>touting though, this great deal for millennials and gen xers

433
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<v Speaker 5>and gen Zers. It's ten ninety nine and you get

434
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<v Speaker 5>a burger, fries and a drink perfect right.

435
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<v Speaker 1>What why did why did Chilies fall out of favor?

436
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<v Speaker 1>Why did all of garden fall fall out of favor?

437
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<v Speaker 5>I mean well, I think again they lost they lost

438
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<v Speaker 5>what they were good at.

439
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

440
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<v Speaker 5>They tried to become an Olive Gardens case a little

441
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<v Speaker 5>bit too high end. Right, people are not going for

442
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<v Speaker 5>highand Italian to Olive Garden. Right, go back to what

443
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<v Speaker 5>you what you're what people know you for, what you're

444
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<v Speaker 5>good at, and that's that's what the brands that are

445
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<v Speaker 5>that are doing well today. You know, be true to yourself.

446
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<v Speaker 5>Don't try to be someone you're not. Don't try to

447
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<v Speaker 5>go after a demographic that you have no business going after,

448
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<v Speaker 5>because you won't get you won't get it, you won't

449
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<v Speaker 5>make it.

450
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<v Speaker 1>These the sort of restaurants that the Bricks Holdings, you're

451
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<v Speaker 1>the CEO of Bricks Holdings. These are the sort of

452
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<v Speaker 1>restaurants that that you trying to work with.

453
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<v Speaker 5>We do, right, and so we have, like I said, Friendlies,

454
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<v Speaker 5>We have Red Mango, which is a frozen yogurt concept

455
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<v Speaker 5>of in the Northeast, we have and we we're in

456
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<v Speaker 5>three hundred other locations across forty states. But we've got

457
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<v Speaker 5>eight different brands and it's really working with different groups

458
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<v Speaker 5>to really focus on what you're good at and to

459
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<v Speaker 5>end snapping.

460
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

461
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<v Speaker 5>So this is the other piece that's really big for

462
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<v Speaker 5>this generation. No one wants to go out for a

463
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<v Speaker 5>full meal, right you mentioned as well in certain cases

464
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<v Speaker 5>it's just going out and getting a snack something you

465
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<v Speaker 5>can afford. But you get the pleasure of going out

466
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<v Speaker 5>and not just sitting at home and eating by yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, you know something, Sheriff, If it's okay with you,

468
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<v Speaker 1>I might have my producer get back in touch with

469
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<v Speaker 1>your your staff. And these interviews that we do in

470
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<v Speaker 1>this hour, they're only fairly seven, eight, nine minutes, uh

471
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<v Speaker 1>and then fly by. But maybe I'd like to have

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<v Speaker 1>to come back some night and we can talk about

473
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<v Speaker 1>restaurants and maybe my audience can tell you here and

474
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<v Speaker 1>you know, we have a big audience up and down

475
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<v Speaker 1>the East Coast root fifty thousand y if you were

476
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<v Speaker 1>familiar with WBC. But we're new England based organization and

477
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<v Speaker 1>maybe they can they can talk about some of these

478
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<v Speaker 1>restaurants with you. I think people would be thrilled to

479
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<v Speaker 1>find out that Friendlies is coming back. And I mean

480
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<v Speaker 1>that seriously.

481
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<v Speaker 6>That'd be great to do.

482
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we could. We could run sort of like almost

483
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<v Speaker 1>like a little focus group for you, uh and let

484
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<v Speaker 1>people call in and tell you what but they liked

485
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<v Speaker 1>about some of these restaurants and maybe we can bring

486
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<v Speaker 1>them back and make life a little a little better

487
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<v Speaker 1>for my listeners and for your clients.

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<v Speaker 5>Fair enough, I love it. Thank you for that opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll make that happen. Sheriff mid Yes, thank

490
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<v Speaker 1>you very much. I love talking about food, but food

491
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<v Speaker 1>it's affordable. You know, friends of mine telling me about

492
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<v Speaker 1>all the fancy, spancy restaurants they go to and it's

493
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<v Speaker 1>like it's tough to enjoy the meal, and they'll say,

494
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<v Speaker 1>oh that real lovely. Yeah, it should be lovely when

495
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<v Speaker 1>it's a sixty dollars steak. I mean I can't. It

496
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<v Speaker 1>should be lovely when it's a twenty dollars steak in

497
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<v Speaker 1>my opinion. Sheriff, thanks so much. I enjoyed our conversation.

498
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<v Speaker 5>Talk again, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Very much, very much. Nice to talk with you as well.

500
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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a quick break and we're going

501
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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the story of the day coming up,

502
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<v Speaker 1>the passing of Pope Francis early this morning, about twenty

503
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<v Speaker 1>four hours ago. Was around the time when he was passing.

504
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<v Speaker 1>It was some Monday morning. I'm going to talk Professor

505
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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Schmaltz. He is a religious studies professor at the

506
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<v Speaker 1>College of Holy Cross in Worcester. We'll be back with

507
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<v Speaker 1>Professor Schmaltz and after that we're going to also talk

508
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<v Speaker 1>about in the nine o'clock hour of the passing of

509
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<v Speaker 1>Pope Francis with the pastor of Saint Mary's Parish, Saint

510
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<v Speaker 1>Mary's Parish of the of the Assumption Parish in Brookline,

511
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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to be talking with the pastor who

512
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<v Speaker 1>is the former secretary of Cardinal O'Malley and Father Jonathan

513
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<v Speaker 1>Gasper was in Rome, not as a voter, but certainly

514
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<v Speaker 1>as a participant in the entire process of the conclave.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll talk about that. Gonna have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>great information for you. Next, I will call your friends

517
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<v Speaker 1>and tell him the turn on Nightside. Back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after this, you're on Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm

519
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<v Speaker 1>w b Z, Boston's news radio. Well, the big news

520
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<v Speaker 1>story of today in this country and also nashally, was

521
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<v Speaker 1>the passing of Pope Francis. Died at the age of

522
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<v Speaker 1>eighty and it was about twenty four hours ago that

523
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<v Speaker 1>apparently he suffered some form of a cerebral hemorrhage and

524
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<v Speaker 1>then that led to him put him in a coma

525
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<v Speaker 1>and then heart failure. I guess for the probably old

526
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<v Speaker 1>age is also contributing factor with us as Professor Matthew

527
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<v Speaker 1>Small's professor of religious studies at the College of Holy

528
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<v Speaker 1>Cross in Worcester. Yet us worried there for a second.

529
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<v Speaker 1>Professor Smalls, my producer, was saying, I haven't been able

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<v Speaker 1>to reach him yet. I hope everything's okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Everything's okay, Sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Just no, I've I'll bet, I'll bet it has been. Yeah.

533
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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing that he passed sometime around midnight last night.

534
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<v Speaker 1>I know that it first was announced this morning, you know,

535
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<v Speaker 1>with the time difference, obviously he spent a very active.

536
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<v Speaker 1>Final day on Easter, you know, heard at the Vatican

537
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<v Speaker 1>blessed the crowd, spoke briefly. He also had met with

538
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<v Speaker 1>the Vice President of the United States. I believe that

539
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<v Speaker 1>meeting was Sunday morning, maybe it was late Saturday. But

540
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<v Speaker 1>he kept a full schedule right until the end of

541
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<v Speaker 1>pretty characteristic of a man of eighty eight years of age,

542
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<v Speaker 1>who who literally you know, you know, stayed active right

543
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<v Speaker 1>until the very end.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's true. And he always wanted to be a

545
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<v Speaker 6>pope of the people, and I think his last few

546
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<v Speaker 6>days showed that he wanted to be with the faithful

547
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<v Speaker 6>in Saint Peter's Square, even though he knew that his

548
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<v Speaker 6>health was failing. So it was very powerful moment, I think,

549
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<v Speaker 6>and something for us all to reflect on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a very different pope, at least the popes. You're

551
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<v Speaker 1>the expert. I'm simply an imperfect Catholic who was taught

552
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<v Speaker 1>by nuns for the for eight first eight years of

553
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<v Speaker 1>my education, Sisters of Charity of Nazareth. And I remember,

554
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<v Speaker 1>you know Pope John the twenty third and pious out

555
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<v Speaker 1>of the sixth, and you know John Paul one and

556
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<v Speaker 1>of course John Paul two, and I actually remember I

557
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<v Speaker 1>think Pious the twelfth a little bit back in the

558
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:29.799
<v Speaker 1>low fifties. So where would you put this pope? He

559
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>certainly took the church in a different direction. But there's

560
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<v Speaker 1>there's a new pope coming. We don't know who it's

561
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<v Speaker 1>going to be. Do you think that new pope he

562
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<v Speaker 1>appointed about I guess eighty percent of the College of

563
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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals that can vote in the election, those under the

564
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<v Speaker 1>age of eighty, you think that they will basically pick

565
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<v Speaker 1>someone who's going to carry on his traditional will they,

566
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, move the moved the church back a little

567
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<v Speaker 1>bit in the other direction? You know?

568
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<v Speaker 6>You yeah, well that's yeah, that's the question. And let

569
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<v Speaker 6>me say you're in good company, because I'm an imperfect

570
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<v Speaker 6>Catholic too. I think the College of Cardinals, all one

571
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<v Speaker 6>hundred and thirty eight of them who are allowed to vote,

572
00:32:18.319 --> 00:32:24.519
<v Speaker 6>was a majority of them were appointed by Po Francis.

573
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<v Speaker 6>But I'm not sure there'll be a kind of rubber

574
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<v Speaker 6>stamp or a pot Francis clone that we should expect.

575
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<v Speaker 6>The cardinals come from all parts of the Catholic world,

576
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<v Speaker 6>and so many of them don't know the ways and

577
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:45.000
<v Speaker 6>workings of the Vatican in Rome, so we might see

578
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<v Speaker 6>a longer conclave, one that will take a while to

579
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:55.559
<v Speaker 6>resolve itself. I personally think instead of choosing a carbon

580
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<v Speaker 6>copy of Po Francis or choosing someone who's going to

581
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 6>push back on his reforms, that the Catholic Church and

582
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<v Speaker 6>the cardinals will want to take a breather in some

583
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<v Speaker 6>ways and elect someone who has the pastoral or personal

584
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<v Speaker 6>sensitivities that Po. Francis did, but is not going to

585
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<v Speaker 6>make substantial doctrinal changes. It'll take decades for Pro Frances's

586
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<v Speaker 6>reforms to settle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of the things that he would say,

588
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<v Speaker 1>and then there'd be a clarification. That's kind of the

589
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<v Speaker 1>way the Vatican works, you know. He says something that

590
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<v Speaker 1>the media jumps on and says, oh, the Church has

591
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<v Speaker 1>now changed his position on this, And when they sifted

592
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<v Speaker 1>through whatever the encyclical was and it was translated from

593
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<v Speaker 1>the Latin back to the English, it wasn't quite as dramatic.

594
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it seems it seems to me any chance.

595
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<v Speaker 1>I guess we have seventeen US cardinals, which is a

596
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<v Speaker 1>pretty well ten of them eligible to vote. None of

597
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<v Speaker 1>the only one that I really have a sense of

598
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<v Speaker 1>is Cardinal Dolan of New York. Is it time for

599
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<v Speaker 1>an American pope?

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<v Speaker 6>I hate to say this, but I think it is

601
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<v Speaker 6>not time for an American pope. So I like Cardinal

602
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<v Speaker 6>Dolan very much, and he sent me some very sweet

603
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<v Speaker 6>letters sometimes about my writings. I think what we'll see, however,

604
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<v Speaker 6>is someone like Cardinal Dolan being a kingmaker, someone who

605
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<v Speaker 6>can bring people together around a particular candidate. But I

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<v Speaker 6>think the issue is with the United States, apart from

607
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<v Speaker 6>anything else, is that the United States has just too

608
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<v Speaker 6>much geopolitical power, and so the Vatican is going to

609
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<v Speaker 6>want to maintain balance, and aligning itself with the United

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<v Speaker 6>States in such a way might be seen to bring

611
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<v Speaker 6>things out of balance.

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<v Speaker 1>I covered Cardinal Law back in the day. The truth

613
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<v Speaker 1>scandal was actually covered his elevation in Rome, and for

614
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<v Speaker 1>a long time I thought I traveled with him, traveled

615
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<v Speaker 1>to Poland, traveled to Northern Ireland, traveled to Italy, obviously,

616
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<v Speaker 1>and I always thought he was campaigning for it, that

617
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<v Speaker 1>it would mean these other cardinals. There is a political

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<v Speaker 1>veneer to this that probably no one really wants to

619
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<v Speaker 1>talk about.

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<v Speaker 6>No, you're exactly right. There is politicking, and you know

621
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<v Speaker 6>it's bad. Form to put yourself forward as a candidate.

622
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<v Speaker 6>And there's a saying in Rome, I think that goes

623
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<v Speaker 6>he who goes into the conclave of Pope comes out

624
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<v Speaker 6>a cardinal. But just because you can't campaign for yourself

625
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<v Speaker 6>doesn't mean that people won't campaign for you. And so

626
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<v Speaker 6>certainly there'll be factions, people jockeying for position, and it

627
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<v Speaker 6>may take a while to see how this all plays out,

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<v Speaker 6>simply because the College of Cardinals is so diverse.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess the betting favorite. I was doing my

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<v Speaker 1>research today. There's a lot of talk about this six

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<v Speaker 1>seven year old cardinal for the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 6>Exactly would he.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the betting favorite and does that automatic eliminate him

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<v Speaker 1>if you become the betting favorite.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, maybe it does. I like Cardinal Toglay, the former

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<v Speaker 6>Archbishop of Manila, very much, and he's very much in

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<v Speaker 6>the mold of Pope Francis, and he does hold an

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<v Speaker 6>office in the Vatican that deals with bishops, so people

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<v Speaker 6>do know him, and so it would be easy to

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<v Speaker 6>point to him as an early candidate who might actually

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<v Speaker 6>be elected pope because he's very much cut in the

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<v Speaker 6>mold of Pope Francis, and many people know him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be fascinating to watch, that is

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I'd love to have you back periodically if

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<v Speaker 1>that's possible. I'm sure you your time is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be great. But yeah, I I sometime if I can

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you privately, I can tell you some interesting stories.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, we can.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Studying with nuns, I think is is you know something

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<v Speaker 6>that there'll be a lot of stories about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't know if you had any of the

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<v Speaker 1>Fine Sisters as your primary educators. But one thing you learned.

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<v Speaker 1>You learn the basics of writing, reading, writing, and arithmetic,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. At least I did. I we used to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you'd be able to to parse those sentences

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<v Speaker 1>on the blackboard, the nouns and the verbs and the

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<v Speaker 1>adverbs and the adjectives and oh.

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<v Speaker 6>You yeah across your knuckles.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, oh absolutely they still bruised. I really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the conversation. You got a sense of humor as well,

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<v Speaker 1>Professor Matthew Schmaltz holy Cross, you represented the whole the

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<v Speaker 1>Crusaders very well. They still got the nickname up there.

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<v Speaker 1>They thinking of changing that. That's the only question.

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<v Speaker 6>There's always discussion about changing it, and I like if.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the nickname. I'm kind of old schools. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of friends.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, alumni are very divided about this. Older alumni.

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to keep it a younger alumni. I want it.

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<v Speaker 6>So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I get it. Thanks again, Professor Matthews, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks very much. Will we get back. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk with father the pastor Jonathan Gaspard, pastor of Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Mary's of the Assumption, Paris and Brookline, former secretary to

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal Weal Maley. He was in Rome for the last

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<v Speaker 1>conclave that chose Pope Francis, and he met Pope Francis,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to have a conversation with him and

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<v Speaker 1>with you in the nine o'clock hour. Feel free to

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<v Speaker 1>join the conversation. You can light up those lines beginning now.

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<v Speaker 1>Back after this