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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's are.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult

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<v Speaker 2>of Conspiracy and on the Cage of Night and Raven

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<v Speaker 2>and today we are doing part two of our Antarctica

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<v Speaker 2>expose and deep dive. We covered a good amount of

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<v Speaker 2>topics on the first go round, but this time we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to push all the way through and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get through all of the articles and the videos

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<v Speaker 2>and the topics that we have left to go into.

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<v Speaker 2>We barely touched on some of the topics we touched

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<v Speaker 2>about the Big Hole, about the Nazi bass, about the

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<v Speaker 2>radio signal that's coming out today we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>actually do the deep dive into it, and more importantly,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm actually very excited about this one. The only

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<v Speaker 2>confirmed murder to ever take place on Antarctica is still

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<v Speaker 2>unsolved to this day and done on a raytheon base.

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<v Speaker 3>You're really excited about this, and particular you keep being.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, look at this, I am, I am really excited

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<v Speaker 2>about this.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna end up having to get a part three too, though,

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<v Speaker 3>because like we're not even touching on the miss at all.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to be bringing up some hollow earth

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<v Speaker 2>today a little bit, a little bit and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>how deep dive we go into that one. But that's

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<v Speaker 2>also one that in so many ways in regards, can

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<v Speaker 2>get its own episode in totality.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, because I really want to do one about

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<v Speaker 3>Journey to the Center of the Earth. Yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 3>books and the movies and all that vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>So, without any further ado, good cult members, we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to dive all the way in on Antarctica and

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<v Speaker 2>all the things part dose. If you would like to

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<v Speaker 2>And then let's also not negate the fact that it

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely commercial for you, listener, y'all, absolutely listen. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of slowing the buttons on that one. My apologies. Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Commercial suck, we get it, we know, But if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to kids the right, I hate them. Look.

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<v Speaker 3>Five dollars is literally a Starby's wondering I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Not even find me one thing on the menu at

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<v Speaker 2>Starbucks for five dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>A black tea vienti.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome? Who or that? Never mind?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fair, very fair, fine, fine, excuse me for all

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<v Speaker 2>the vinty black teas? Which is correct me? If I'm wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that small?

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<v Speaker 3>A venty is?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know? Vince is Italian for twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's tall is a small, A grande is a medium,

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<v Speaker 3>A venti is a large, A trenta which you can

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<v Speaker 3>only get in certain drinks I eat mostly. Tease is

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<v Speaker 3>the extra large version. You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't make sense, makes perfect sense. Vinti is twenty

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<v Speaker 2>in Italian. Is the drink like a twenty outs drink? Whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not, I'm not going to take this opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>start shipping the start.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a starb worker for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 2>You're from Oregon. I figured, like all of y'all have

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<v Speaker 2>to do time there, like a part of your coming page.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a plant worker down here. Everybody works as

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<v Speaker 3>a planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hey, hey, I'm not offended by this. Pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>in Louisiana, if you're trying to get your start, you

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<v Speaker 2>work as a helper on some crew in some plant.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how you break out.

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<v Speaker 3>Not everybody works at a Starbucks, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I got most women.

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<v Speaker 3>I would assume I got a job at Starbucks. At

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<v Speaker 3>the airport in the International Concord. By the way, people

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<v Speaker 3>be fucking wilding out at four am the goddamn morning

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<v Speaker 3>in the International Concord.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, an airport that's like basically a bar with flights.

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<v Speaker 3>It's insane. All I'm not saying all, I'm saying the

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<v Speaker 3>majority of the Asian flights that would come over, they

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<v Speaker 3>love frappuccinos. And for those of you that have never

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<v Speaker 3>really have never made a frappuccino, they take the longest

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<v Speaker 3>out of the entire menu to make, and you only

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<v Speaker 3>have like between two to three actual frappuccino machines. And

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<v Speaker 3>when you have a hundred of those motherfucking orders, they

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<v Speaker 3>take forever, and it's just absolute chaos for like a

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<v Speaker 3>solid hour long when the flight gets off.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that there's only like two or three

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<v Speaker 2>frat machines that make It depends on how.

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<v Speaker 3>Big the store is or like how much they actually

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<v Speaker 3>have a flow. They try to to coordinate with how

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<v Speaker 3>much they have, but.

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<v Speaker 2>In the airport is basically like a Kiosk location at best.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was really small. I think it's actually gotten

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<v Speaker 3>quite bigger, but it was pretty small, and that would

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<v Speaker 3>be the one thing that the Asian flights would get

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<v Speaker 3>off and that's what they would order. It's funny, different

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<v Speaker 3>parts of different flights from around the world would all

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<v Speaker 3>order the same things. And it's like you'd be making

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<v Speaker 3>a hundred cappuccinos when you'd be making a hundred lattes

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<v Speaker 3>or a hundred freaking frappuccinos.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, Okay, who knew Asians were so down

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<v Speaker 2>with the frap? I figured that. Yeah, well yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>Boba SE's makes sense to me for the Asians. But FRAPs, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, but it's a cold drink. It's a cold shit,

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<v Speaker 3>very flavored drink. I don't know, but I mean. I

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<v Speaker 3>worked at another one outside of Colorado Springs, outside of

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<v Speaker 3>the Army base, the busiest drive through ever.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the way Americana start to finish.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm joking so many No, we had people coming with

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<v Speaker 3>the secret menu. For those of you that don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>Starbucks still has a secret menu. Yes, you can access

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<v Speaker 3>it and you can make them make you any drink

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<v Speaker 3>off of that secret menu. Some of the drinks have

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<v Speaker 3>like seventy five ingredients. I'm not even joking.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it like the McDonald's secret menu, where like the

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<v Speaker 2>mcgang bang is and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>They have so many different kinds of flavors and drinks.

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<v Speaker 3>The only reason I knew about it is because we

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<v Speaker 3>had this group of people that decided they wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>try everything, and one of the drinks, no joke, had

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<v Speaker 3>I probably at best fifty different ingredients.

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<v Speaker 2>So pretty much you just went down the line of

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<v Speaker 2>all the squirt bottles for flavorings.

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<v Speaker 3>To just well you did like you did like squirt bottles,

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<v Speaker 3>you did different the different drizzles, you did, the different

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<v Speaker 3>types of coffee, because there's different ways to like mix

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds horrible because some of those flavors do not

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<v Speaker 2>meld well together.

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<v Speaker 3>Personally, I thought it was the most discussing thing I've

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<v Speaker 2>You tried it, Yeah, I made it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was not going to spend twenty five minutes on

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<v Speaker 3>a drink and not try it, Like you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>asked them. I was like can I I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna say, like, yo, did you straight up like take

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<v Speaker 2>a sip? No? They act like they didn't like watching them. Okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're like, what's that? What's that? What's this? I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know why people, though, can't make a goddamn Starbucks

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<v Speaker 3>drink down here in the South most of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why people can just drink black coffee

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<v Speaker 2>like adults. It kills me because it's disgusting. You're not peasants,

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<v Speaker 2>but you'll drink a black unsweetened tea.

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<v Speaker 3>First off, I like it with one pump, a classic,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell is? Classic?

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<v Speaker 3>Classic is literally like cane syrup.

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<v Speaker 2>It's simple syrup. Then like it bars and.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's like sugar. You can do one pump.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually I really like it with raw sugar, but

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<v Speaker 3>they always fuck it up, so I just have decided

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<v Speaker 3>not to somehow manage to get a raw sugar. Somehow

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<v Speaker 3>they mess it up.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll say this, it's not the South. It depends

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<v Speaker 2>on the city. Like if you were to go to

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans, I bet you the Starbucks there they can

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<v Speaker 2>get a poppin' I don't know that. For a fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't typically order Starbey's because I drink normal black

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<v Speaker 2>coffee with chickory. Because I'm just a normal old Louisiana

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<v Speaker 2>boy at heart.

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<v Speaker 3>You like mochas. Don't even fucking lie to these.

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<v Speaker 2>If somebody's gonna buy one for me, then sure, But

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<v Speaker 2>I am not going out of my way, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not on my drive and I'm thinking like, ooh, let

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<v Speaker 2>me swing into a Starby's for a moca, Like that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's just not me. And I'm not shitting on those

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<v Speaker 2>that get down with Starby's. It's just not my preferred ghosts.

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<v Speaker 3>I will hunt one down like I will hunt a Starbucks.

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<v Speaker 3>I s it, yeah, yeah, because every time I try

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<v Speaker 3>to do drink other people's coffee, it's like, oh God, gross.

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<v Speaker 2>It, tar, you need to be able to chew it.

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<v Speaker 3>No. My favorite coffee, actually an organ is Country Coffee

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<v Speaker 3>and it's these little coffee stands that was made by

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<v Speaker 3>this woman that passed away two years ago from a

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<v Speaker 3>quad accident. But thankfully her family is still going strong.

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<v Speaker 3>But they use a Colombian coffee oh okay, and it

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<v Speaker 3>is fantastic, is very very strong. But I haven't found

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<v Speaker 3>anything down here equivalent to that so far. It's not Starbucks,

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<v Speaker 3>because I do love me some Starby's. So I am

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<v Speaker 3>the what.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was waiting for you to make the joke of

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<v Speaker 3>like a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's not like a secret that white women are

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed with Starbucks. That's that's no, no, no, not just

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<v Speaker 2>white people. But when you think of a stereotypical Becky, right,

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<v Speaker 2>she's dressed a certain way, you already can guess what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna list, but I'm not gonna go there, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you could probably guess what she drives. You could

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<v Speaker 2>probably guess one of five perfumes that she's wearing. You

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<v Speaker 2>can probably guess what kind of bag she's carrying, and

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you can guess what kind of drink she's

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<v Speaker 2>carrying in her hand. I'm not going there, good cult members,

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<v Speaker 2>the internet has done that at nauseum. I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>stereotypes exist for a reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, so what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I feel like when the COLT members

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<v Speaker 3>see me, they're like, why is she wearing Halloween stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>Because because it's life, y'all, it's life year round.

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<v Speaker 2>Silly question. She's a goth queen.

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<v Speaker 3>God, It's just I miss Halloween already.

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<v Speaker 2>Although you are the reason why I now know what

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<v Speaker 2>Summer Ween is. I didn't know that that was thing

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<v Speaker 2>good cult members until this year.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's so great that that Walmart has jumped onto

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<v Speaker 3>this bandwagon and now sells Halloween Summer Weeen aka in

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<v Speaker 3>June and July.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not mad at it. Inherently, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not also star a Spirit of Halloween is has

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<v Speaker 2>am going to start on this article here. This is

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<v Speaker 2>It's very strange, it makes no logical sense. And we

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<v Speaker 2>near the volcanoes. I have three different articles pulled up,

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<v Speaker 2>one from twenty twenty five, and I want you good

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<v Speaker 2>cult members to notice how the narrative shifts in just

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<v Speaker 2>the course of a few years. This is how science works.

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<v Speaker 2>And I understand that you come up with a working theory,

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<v Speaker 2>until it's proven otherwise. I understand that. But these massive

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time, they really don't be knowing what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on with it, honestly, and it's fascinating. So let's dive

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<v Speaker 4>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's November fourteenth of twenty eighteen. God, that feels like

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<v Speaker 2>a lifetime ago, doesn't it. Pre COVID God, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even remember, Like, I don't even remember what

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<v Speaker 3>I think I was in Midwiffrey School. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, honestly. To be completely transparent with you,

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<v Speaker 2>from twenty sixteen and now just seems like a real

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen to twenty actually, yeah, no, I was in college.

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<v Speaker 2>it's all a blur from twenty fourteen when I got

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<v Speaker 2>the military to now. It just seems like one big whirlwind.

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<v Speaker 2>like every day just brings on new curve balls.

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<v Speaker 3>But twenty twenty wild, Like I feel like it physically

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<v Speaker 3>reset all of us in a weird way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know. It definitely made a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people question narratives, which is very good, and that's when

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<v Speaker 2>good one for some of us and was horrible for others.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, It's one of those subjective things. Anyway, let's

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<v Speaker 2>ice sheet is melting unexpectedly quickly. Using radar to look

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<v Speaker 2>through three kilometers of ice, the team found that some

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<v Speaker 2>of the ice covering an area that's twice the size

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<v Speaker 2>of Greater London appeared to be missing. The results are

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<v Speaker 2>melted and continues to melt the base of the ice,

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<v Speaker 2>results in the ice sheet layers above sagging downward. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's my point. The top ice sheet layer is still solid,

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<v Speaker 2>but underneath it is what's melting. Now you got this

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<v Speaker 2>weird dip. It's like a you know, a bowl almost

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<v Speaker 3>Is it not the salt, because I mean, from everything

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<v Speaker 3>we read last episode, so much is like crazy amous

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<v Speaker 3>salt three times five times the amount of how salty

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<v Speaker 3>it is the ocean and these lakes in these river

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<v Speaker 3>and these you know, quote unquote rivers or you know, tunnels,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever the hell they are. Would it not be that? Maybe?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, But at the same time, this wasn't or we're

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<v Speaker 2>this was a lake. This was just ice that for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason is melting from the bottom up rather than

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<v Speaker 2>from the top down. Okay, So I mean, let's get

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<v Speaker 2>into it here. The team believes the heat source is

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<v Speaker 2>a combination of unusually radioactive rocks and hot water coming

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<v Speaker 2>up from deep under the ground. This heat melts the

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<v Speaker 2>base of the ice sheets, producing melting water, which drains

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<v Speaker 2>away beneath the ice sheets. Filling subglacial lakes downstream. The

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<v Speaker 2>presence of this extra water may help lubricate the fast

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<v Speaker 2>flowing ice in this area. So they're thinking unusual radioactive rocks,

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<v Speaker 2>the Mars clearly, the Mars rocks that they keep finding clearly,

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<v Speaker 2>and hot water. All right, let's get into it. So

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<v Speaker 2>lead author doctor Tom Jordan of British Antarctic Survey BAS says, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>the process of melting we observe has probably been going

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<v Speaker 2>on for thousands or maybe even millions of years and

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<v Speaker 2>isn't directly contributing to ice sheet change. However, in the

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<v Speaker 2>future the extra water at the ice sheet bed may

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<v Speaker 2>make this region more sensitive to external factors such as

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<v Speaker 2>climate change. Of course goes climate change. That's a good

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<v Speaker 2>blavor everything. The study collected data using BAS aircraft as

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Polar Gap project. This international project, funded

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<v Speaker 2>by the European Space Agency with researchers from Norway, Denmark

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<v Speaker 2>and the UK, aim to fill the gap in satellite

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<v Speaker 2>gravity data around the South Pole. Critical for this study,

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<v Speaker 2>scientists also collected radar data revealing the thickness, structure and

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<v Speaker 2>conditions at the base of the ice sheet. So here

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<v Speaker 2>we have a little bit of an image of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a plane it's flying over the South Pole. We got

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<v Speaker 2>ice layers going on here, and then we just got

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<v Speaker 2>this spot right here where it's melting. And they believe

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<v Speaker 2>that it's because of hot rocks and hot water right here,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>So it looks like it's melting pushing the water out

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<v Speaker 3>on the right and left that's being converted back into

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<v Speaker 3>water down below that's heating up from the from the

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<v Speaker 3>hot rock that's melting it even more so, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>it's a cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>But again it looks like potentially in the realm of

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<v Speaker 2>working theory. Yes, so let's see, let's keep going on

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<v Speaker 2>this this image again. This is twenty eighteen. They've had

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<v Speaker 2>a few other theories be proposed as to what is

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<v Speaker 2>making this happen, but this is not the It's not

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<v Speaker 2>a dumb theory by any means, except what is making

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<v Speaker 2>this whole hot rock situation happen? I don't know, right,

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<v Speaker 2>neither do they. Doctor Jordan continues, this was a really

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<v Speaker 2>exciting project exploring one of the last totally unsurveyed regions

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<v Speaker 2>on our planet. Our results were quite unexpected, as many

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<v Speaker 2>people thought this region of Antarctica was made of ancient

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<v Speaker 2>and cold rocks, which had little impact on the ice sheet. Above,

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<v Speaker 2>we show that even in the ancient continental interior, the

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<v Speaker 2>underlying geology can have a significant impact on the ice.

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<v Speaker 2>Co author doctor Renee Forsberg from the Technical University of

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<v Speaker 2>Denmark says this was a great example of how nations

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<v Speaker 2>work together, or how nations working together rather can explore

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<v Speaker 2>the most challenging regions on our planet. In particular, we

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<v Speaker 2>thank the US Antarctic Program for their great hospitality at

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<v Speaker 2>the South Pole Station and the British Antarctic Survey for

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<v Speaker 2>their incredible logistical efficiency. It is also an example of

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<v Speaker 2>how a project originally designed to augment satellite data for

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<v Speaker 2>the European Space Agency could produce completely unexpected scientific results.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, fair enough, now this is issued. Oh this

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<v Speaker 3>So just really quick, because I've had people keep asking

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<v Speaker 3>me where to get information. If you go down in

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<v Speaker 3>articles to the cited part, that is where you can

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<v Speaker 3>actually find more peer reviewed articles that help you, and

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<v Speaker 3>like it only has a couple, but here hear how

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<v Speaker 3>it has the Nature dot com articles. That's how you

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<v Speaker 3>can find your own research when digging into different topics

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<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that is going to the end of all.

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<v Speaker 3>Say you find a good article that you like, go

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<v Speaker 3>to the end where the citations are. That's where you

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<v Speaker 3>can find more and that's how you can continue building

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<v Speaker 3>on whatever topic it is that you're looking for that

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<v Speaker 3>has peer reviewed articles. That's how you can do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm glad that you actually brought that up because

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people especially that are looking for factual

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<v Speaker 2>and I use factual loosely quote unquot because everything is

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<v Speaker 2>in the realm of theory until it has proven cool. Cool.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to scientific exploration or archaeological digs

426
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<v Speaker 2>or all these things, you hear these names doctor fuckwad

427
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<v Speaker 2>from whatever university someplace you never heard of, some doctor

428
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<v Speaker 2>you've never heard of. Do you even know if this

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<v Speaker 2>is an expert in his field or is he a

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<v Speaker 2>quack in his field? Like you never know. If you

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<v Speaker 2>go down to the citations and you click on more

432
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<v Speaker 2>things that they have been quoted in, or you can

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<v Speaker 2>even find his peer review journal, then that will give

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<v Speaker 2>you a much better insight to this and see who

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<v Speaker 2>the peers were that reviewed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so one of the things that says that it's

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<v Speaker 3>from Journal of Scientific Reports. So you can actually go

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<v Speaker 3>to these websites and you're able to go through a

439
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<v Speaker 3>lot of them. Most of them you can access. Google

440
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<v Speaker 3>did have Google scholars dot com where you just type

441
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<v Speaker 3>in Google scholar. For some reason, mine's being blocked, but

442
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if everyone's is.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Being blocked because you're a conspiracy theorist. Now they know it.

444
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. They started blocking me like a month ago,

445
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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, okay, assholes. See, but you can actually

446
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<v Speaker 3>find scientific articles inside the different locations, and that way

447
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<v Speaker 3>you can you can go in a crazy deep dive

448
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<v Speaker 3>on one topic and find hundreds of articles that have

449
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<v Speaker 3>been published over the last hundred years plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Typically when you do any kind of research, you do

452
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<v Speaker 3>want to get within the last ten years quote unquote,

453
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<v Speaker 3>because that's when it's more relative relative. But it's for me,

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<v Speaker 3>I like to look all the way back because there

455
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<v Speaker 3>is a lot of weird information when you get further

456
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<v Speaker 3>back that they've kind of like changed back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>But it also depends on the journal. Some of these

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<v Speaker 2>journal entries are like thirty five pages long, and you

459
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<v Speaker 2>have to like really dig to find that.

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<v Speaker 3>Currently, I will say I have read through so many

461
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<v Speaker 3>one hundred page pluses. But when you go to these

462
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<v Speaker 3>type of journals, what you want to do is is

463
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<v Speaker 3>in the beginning, it will tell you exactly what they're

464
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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about. They will break it down for you,

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<v Speaker 3>and it might be two pages long.

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<v Speaker 2>The two page long thesis is absolutely a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, where they just tell you, they give you a

468
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<v Speaker 3>snapshot of what they're going to talk about. Then they're

469
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<v Speaker 3>going to give you a table of contents. You can

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<v Speaker 3>actually just use what you have in the beginning and

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<v Speaker 3>it will tell you a lot of factual data and

472
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<v Speaker 3>you can kind of decipher, hey, maybe I do want

473
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<v Speaker 3>to look through this. It does talk a lot about statistics,

474
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<v Speaker 3>so you have to learn about kind of how to

475
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<v Speaker 3>read statistics. But definitely use the beginning to see if

476
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<v Speaker 3>you want to do that. And I keep having people

477
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<v Speaker 3>ask me how to do any type of research, and

478
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<v Speaker 3>that's really how you can start learning how to do

479
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<v Speaker 3>your own research that's actually factual because going to TikTok

480
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<v Speaker 3>and going to Instagram, it does give you ideas to

481
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<v Speaker 3>put in to go look for. Not always though, no,

482
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<v Speaker 3>but it gives you an idea of like, hey, I

483
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<v Speaker 3>heard this weird things, so that's what I do. I

484
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<v Speaker 3>hear stuff on social media's and while I also just

485
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<v Speaker 3>read live science and different stuff, but I hear it

486
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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, you know what, I'm going to go

487
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<v Speaker 3>look this up. So then I start digging. And that

488
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<v Speaker 3>gives you a place to dig. So when you actually

489
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<v Speaker 3>are having these you know, potential arguments with people or

490
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<v Speaker 3>debates or wanting to talk and actually have real science

491
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<v Speaker 3>behind you or facts, that's how you can start looking

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<v Speaker 3>for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of people that have never been to college.

494
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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying that it is some sort of

495
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<v Speaker 2>a haughty, looking down from my high horse type of way.

496
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<v Speaker 2>I went to a tech school. Let's not get it

497
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<v Speaker 2>twisted here. I wasn't like I went to a major

498
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<v Speaker 2>university or anything. But for a lot of people that

499
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<v Speaker 2>have never done that level of like a research paper

500
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<v Speaker 2>and had to show their sites, they wouldn't know where

501
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<v Speaker 2>to look or where to go to get more information.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, people actually don't. They don't teach it. They just

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<v Speaker 3>tell you to go. So I'm actually one of my

505
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<v Speaker 3>close friends is back in school and we were just

506
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<v Speaker 3>having this conversation. She is insanely intelligent and already already

507
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<v Speaker 3>holds several degrees, and we were talking about research and

508
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<v Speaker 3>she's like, could you show me how to use the

509
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<v Speaker 3>search engine? Because they don't really show you how, and

510
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<v Speaker 3>they don't tell you or teach you how. I actually

511
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<v Speaker 3>took a class from a lady that does communications with

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<v Speaker 3>the Midwiffree School because she was so good at finding

513
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<v Speaker 3>things I was asking her. It was like a put

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<v Speaker 3>together class, as in there was four of us because

515
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<v Speaker 3>I kept hounding her for how do I do this?

516
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<v Speaker 3>I need to learn and that's the only reason, plus

517
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<v Speaker 3>me being crazy about wanting to learn research, it's the

518
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<v Speaker 3>only reason why I started to learn how to do this.

519
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<v Speaker 3>But unfortunately they don't really want you. I feel like personally,

520
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<v Speaker 3>they don't want you to know how to do this

521
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<v Speaker 3>because once you start reading enough research papers, you will

522
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<v Speaker 3>hear the bias. Just read out the gate in the abstract,

523
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you will. You can pick it up easy, and

524
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<v Speaker 3>then you're like, oh, okay, so you're gonna sway whatever

525
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<v Speaker 3>whatever statistics that you're finding, you're swinging it towards whatever

526
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<v Speaker 3>way that you want it. You can clearly start to

527
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<v Speaker 3>decipher what you're reading. But it takes a lot of time.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say that I have read I can't even

529
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<v Speaker 3>tell you thousands, honestly of articles.

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<v Speaker 2>So abstract is where the money is at as far

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<v Speaker 2>as like getting the feeling goes.

532
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<v Speaker 3>Though.

533
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<v Speaker 2>So one of my chemistry teachers, doctor Shadrack, shout out

534
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<v Speaker 2>he had he got his doctor from defending his thesis.

535
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<v Speaker 2>It was a ten page abstract of his thesis on

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<v Speaker 2>copper oxidation. I read it. My god, the level of

537
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<v Speaker 2>intellect on this gentleman blew me away. And at the

538
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<v Speaker 2>same time, I didn't know there was that much to

539
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<v Speaker 2>defend as far as copper oxidation goes. But boil boy,

540
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<v Speaker 2>was I wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>The PTSD claim is a really fascinating one. There's actually

542
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<v Speaker 3>a heavy deb over certain categories of PTSD and how it,

543
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<v Speaker 3>what type it is, and stuff. And the one abstract

544
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<v Speaker 3>was no joke, twenty nine pages long.

545
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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

546
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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, all right, I'm I'm in it

547
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<v Speaker 3>for the long haul. I'm going to read all of this,

548
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:47.880
<v Speaker 3>but that's where you find your bread and butnder to, hey,

549
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<v Speaker 3>maybe I want to do this. And if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>like the abstract or you find like one or two things,

551
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<v Speaker 3>scroll all the way to the bottom, and they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to list probably like anywhere between ten to one hundred citations.

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<v Speaker 3>Read through that list and see you'll tell like, hey,

554
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<v Speaker 3>maybe this might have something. Hey maybe it won't. Maybe

555
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.960
<v Speaker 3>it will like go through click with different ones, figure

556
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<v Speaker 3>out what you want to read it about. But I

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<v Speaker 3>know this is super off topic, but I really wanted

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<v Speaker 3>people to be able to start to learn how to

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<v Speaker 3>do their own research so that way they're not depending

560
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<v Speaker 3>on other people and social media telling them what they

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<v Speaker 3>want to learn.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's very on topic as a matter of fact.

563
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<v Speaker 2>So for anybody who wants to do their own digging,

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<v Speaker 2>now you know how. But if you don't because you

565
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<v Speaker 2>don't have enough time for all that excess reading in things,

566
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<v Speaker 2>that's why you come to the Cult Conspiracy podcast. Honestly,

567
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<v Speaker 2>moving on, so the in twenty eighteen, they believe that

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<v Speaker 2>it was hot rocks, radioactive rocks, and hot water that

569
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<v Speaker 2>was kind of cycling that was just making it happen,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a working theory, don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>So now we are going to go to sciencenews dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Independent journalism since nineteen twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually really like this this group.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so a massive cavern neath a West Antarctic glacier

575
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<v Speaker 2>is teeming with life, so let's get into it here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from twenty twenty three. The coastal plain of

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<v Speaker 2>the calm Ice Stream in West Antarctic Glacier hardly seems

578
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<v Speaker 2>like a coast at all. Stand in its place, eight

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<v Speaker 2>hundred kilometers from the south pole, and you'll see nothing

580
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<v Speaker 2>but flat ice extending in every direction. The ice is

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<v Speaker 2>some seven hundred meters thick and stretches out for hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of kilometers off the coastline. Floating on the water on

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<v Speaker 2>clear summer days, the ice reflects the sunlight with such

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<v Speaker 2>ferocity that it inflicts sunburn on the insides of your nostrils.

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<v Speaker 2>That's wind, yeah, snowblindness.

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<v Speaker 3>Well I know that, but like inside your nostrils.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh man, very reflective. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>That really made my nose hurt.

589
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<v Speaker 2>I just felt that burn. I know.

590
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<v Speaker 3>I was like, ooh, my nostrils. I'm not even there.

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<v Speaker 2>It might seem hard to believe, but hidden beneath this

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<v Speaker 2>ice is a muddy tidal marsh where a burbling that's

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<v Speaker 2>a word they just used. A burbling river winds its

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<v Speaker 2>way into the ocean. I feel like they're just making

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<v Speaker 2>words up. I've never heard of burbling, and I've never

596
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:06.240
<v Speaker 2>heard of winds. I've heard of that babblings babbling book

597
00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:09.000
<v Speaker 2>like they mean babbling, because that's how you are. Right,

598
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<v Speaker 2>there's the burbling, burbling river winds.

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<v Speaker 3>I've really thought they just made up some random ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Until recently, no human had ever glimpsed that secret landscape.

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<v Speaker 2>Scientists have merely inferred its existence from the faint reflections

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<v Speaker 2>of radar and seismic waves, but enclosing the in the

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<v Speaker 2>closing days of twenty twenty one, a team of scientists

604
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<v Speaker 2>from New Zealand melted a narrow hole through the glacier's

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<v Speaker 2>ice and lowered in a camera. They had hoped that

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<v Speaker 2>the hole would insurtersect with the river, which they believed

607
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<v Speaker 2>had melted a channel up into the ice, a vast

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<v Speaker 2>water filled cavity nearly tall enough to hold the Empire

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<v Speaker 2>State Building and half as long as Manhattan. On December

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<v Speaker 2>twenty ninth, Craig Stevens finally got his first look inside.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a moment that he will always remember well, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt Stevens is a physical oceanographer with New Zealand's

613
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<v Speaker 2>National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research. In Wellington's ninety

614
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<v Speaker 2>Anxious Minutes that day in Antarctica, with his head buried

615
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<v Speaker 2>Ostrich style under a thick down jacket to block the

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<v Speaker 2>sunlight that would otherwise obscure his computer monitor, there he

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<v Speaker 2>watched live video from the camera as it descended into

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<v Speaker 2>the hole. Icy circular walls scrolled past, reminiscent of a

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<v Speaker 2>cosmic wormhole. Suddenly, at a depth of five hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>two meters, the walls widened out. Stephen shouted for a

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<v Speaker 2>cogglige to halt the winch, Lowering the camera, he stared

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<v Speaker 2>at the screen as the camera rotated idly on its cable.

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<v Speaker 2>Its floodlights raked across the ceiling of the glacial ice.

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<v Speaker 2>A startling sight scalloped into delicate crests and waves. It

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<v Speaker 2>resembled the dreamy undulations that might take millennia to form

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<v Speaker 2>in a limestone cavern. Okay, they're being very artistic with

627
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<v Speaker 2>their words here, but I hope I'm getting it right here. Honestly,

628
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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of not sure if I'm pronouncing these words right.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's cool. I got English as a second language.

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<v Speaker 2>A mare is a first Obviously, the interior of a

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<v Speaker 2>cathedral stays Stephens a cathedral not only in beauty but

632
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<v Speaker 2>also in size. As the wind free started, the camera

633
00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:11.839
<v Speaker 2>journey downward for another half hour through two hundred and

634
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:15.799
<v Speaker 2>forty two meters of sunless water, Bits of reflective silt

635
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.960
<v Speaker 2>stirred up by a current stream back down like snowflakes

636
00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>through the black void. Stevens and his colleague spent the

637
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.079
<v Speaker 2>next two weeks lowering instruments into the void. Their observations

638
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:29.079
<v Speaker 2>revealed that this coastal river had melted a massive steep

639
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 2>walled cavern, cutting as far as three hundred and fifty

640
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:36.079
<v Speaker 2>meters up into the overlying ice. The caverns extends for

641
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:39.279
<v Speaker 2>at least ten kilometers and appears to be boring inland

642
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>further upstream into the ice sheet, where each pass with

643
00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:47.680
<v Speaker 2>each passing year. This cavity offers research a window into

644
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:50.680
<v Speaker 2>the network of subglacial rivers and lakes that extend hundreds

645
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>of kilometers inland from this part of West Antarctica. It's

646
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.359
<v Speaker 2>an otherworldly environment that humans have barely explored, and is

647
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:02.079
<v Speaker 2>laden with evidences of Antarctica's warm, distant past when it

648
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 2>was still inhabited by a few stunned trees. They say,

649
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 2>a few. We read earlier that that was a rainforest.

650
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a few stun trees. It's like a legit rainforest.

651
00:32:13.480 --> 00:32:16.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so maybe this one section wasn't all rainforest y.

652
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:19.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, fair because the model does show that

653
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:23.839
<v Speaker 3>there's different sections that it's more rainforest esque than other sections.

654
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:24.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

655
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<v Speaker 3>With the new bedmap three, So.

656
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Which Antarctica is fucking huge for the record, it's so big,

657
00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:33.839
<v Speaker 2>just throwing out like the state of Texas, just for

658
00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>an example. In that same state, you will have coastline beaches,

659
00:32:37.680 --> 00:32:42.039
<v Speaker 2>you will have swamps, you will have baious, you'll have thick,

660
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.720
<v Speaker 2>thick forests, and you'll also have desert. So when we

661
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:48.519
<v Speaker 2>look at Antarctica, it also would stand to reason that

662
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 2>it would have some areas that were very marsh like,

663
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.559
<v Speaker 2>some areas that were very rainforest like, some areas that

664
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<v Speaker 2>were very mountainous like, because they do have that mountain range.

665
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's it's not like it's a small spot.

666
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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean, just in organ which is way smaller,

667
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 3>we have everything too. Yeah, So I mean we have

668
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 3>like a quadron of it.

669
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<v Speaker 2>So I feel like I don't have bious there maybe

670
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:09.400
<v Speaker 2>wash use.

671
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.359
<v Speaker 3>Key not by used no, but we have the dunes,

672
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.440
<v Speaker 3>we have the mountains. We have down below is more

673
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:18.839
<v Speaker 3>hot and sandy, you know, desert like yeah, I mean

674
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.240
<v Speaker 3>it just depends on which location you're at in one state.

675
00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:24.279
<v Speaker 3>I mean lots of states are like that, so it

676
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.880
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't It would make sense if it wouldn't have a bunch.

677
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:30.039
<v Speaker 3>But I mean to only say that it had a

678
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<v Speaker 3>few trees.

679
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:34.319
<v Speaker 2>I see, but that's correct. This is twenty twenty three.

680
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.039
<v Speaker 2>They have had more significant findings since then too, so

681
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.319
<v Speaker 2>like I don't know. One of the biggest surprises came

682
00:33:40.400 --> 00:33:42.880
<v Speaker 2>is the camera reached the bottom that day. Stephen gays

683
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:46.759
<v Speaker 2>and disbelief as dozens of orange blurs swam and darted

684
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:49.839
<v Speaker 2>on his monitor. Evidence at this place, roughly five hundred

685
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 2>kilometers from the open sunlit ocean, is nonetheless bustling with

686
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:59.039
<v Speaker 2>marine animals. Seeing them was just complete shock. Saw Hugh Horgan?

687
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Wow to name who whole Horgan? Huw Yeah?

688
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Where's Royce when we need him?

689
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, that is totally Jewish? Who Horgan? Actually he

690
00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 2>might be Norwegian. I might have just said it right accidentally,

691
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:19.360
<v Speaker 2>who knows. A glaciologist formerly at the Victoria University of

692
00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Wellington who led the drilling expedition, Horgan, who recently moved

693
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>to etch Zurich, wants to know how much water is

694
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:30.719
<v Speaker 2>flowing through the cavern and how its growth will impact

695
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the cam Ice stream over time. Cam is unlikely to

696
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 2>fall apart anytime soon. This part of West Antarctica is

697
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.800
<v Speaker 2>not immediately threatened by climate change, but the cavern might

698
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 2>still offer clues to how subglacial water could affect more

699
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:47.480
<v Speaker 2>vulnerable glaciers. So what's beneath the Antarctica's ice sheet? Scientists

700
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.119
<v Speaker 2>have long surmised that a veneer of liquid water sits

701
00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>beneath much of the ice sheet covering Antarctica. This water

702
00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:56.159
<v Speaker 2>forms as the bottom of the ice slowly melts several

703
00:34:56.199 --> 00:35:00.639
<v Speaker 2>penny thicknesses per year. Okay, well, rip to the penny.

704
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 2>America doesn't make those anymore due to heat seeping from

705
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:07.360
<v Speaker 2>the Earth's interior. In two thousand and seven, Helen Amanda Fricker,

706
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Good God, these names, a glaciologist at the Scripts Institute

707
00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:16.199
<v Speaker 2>of Oceanography in La Jolla, California. My favorite beach on

708
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Earth my dad is in La Joya. What La Joya?

709
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:21.440
<v Speaker 3>I know, but the way you said it was funny,

710
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like.

711
00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:27.039
<v Speaker 2>In La Joya reportedly or reported evidence that this water

712
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:30.239
<v Speaker 2>pools into large lakes beneath the ice and can flood

713
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:34.159
<v Speaker 2>quickly from the one lake to another. That was from her.

714
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:36.920
<v Speaker 2>They actually give a citation for that one as well,

715
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:41.400
<v Speaker 2>so that's interesting. Fricker was looking at data from NASA's

716
00:35:41.400 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Ice Cloud and Land Elevation Satellite, or ice at WOW,

717
00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>which measures the height of the ice surface by reflecting

718
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.800
<v Speaker 2>a laser off of it. The surface at several spots

719
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 2>in western Antarctica seemed to bob up and down, rising

720
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and falling by as much as nine meters over a

721
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>couple of years. She interpreted these active spots as slow

722
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 2>subglacial lakes as they filled and then spilled out their water,

723
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>the overly ice rows overlying ice rose and fell rather.

724
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Fricker's team and several others eventually found over three hundred

725
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:15.280
<v Speaker 2>and fifty of these lakes scattered around Antarctica, including a

726
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:19.280
<v Speaker 2>couple dozen beneath cam and It's neighboring glacier, the Willin's

727
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>ice Stream WOW. So these all on screen right now.

728
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 2>These are all subglacial lakes that are just chilling out

729
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:28.280
<v Speaker 2>underneath the ice sheet.

730
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Wow. And we actually read like four hundred and something

731
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.719
<v Speaker 3>the other day on the first episode. So they've found

732
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 3>even more in the last two years three years.

733
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's because they just haven't looked at Antarctica

734
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 2>with this type of equipment up until this point.

735
00:36:44.920 --> 00:36:47.159
<v Speaker 3>But I think it's really interesting though, how they're able

736
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:50.239
<v Speaker 3>to look at the look at the Antarctica's sheets and

737
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:54.119
<v Speaker 3>figure out different things just by reflection and using the

738
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 3>satellite data.

739
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely agree the lakes provide great interest because they were

740
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.400
<v Speaker 2>expected to harbor life and might provide insights about what

741
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.599
<v Speaker 2>sorts of organisms could survive in other worlds deep within

742
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the ice covered moons of Jupiter and Saturn, for instance.

743
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:11.119
<v Speaker 2>The layers of sediment and Antarctica's lakes might also offer

744
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 2>glimpses into continents, ancient climate, ecosystems, and ice cover. Teams

745
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>funded by Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States

746
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>attempted to drill into glacial lakes in twenty thirteen. The

747
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.800
<v Speaker 2>US led team's success Jesus, I can't speak. The US

748
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.719
<v Speaker 2>lead team succeeded melting through eight hundred meters of ice

749
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:33.079
<v Speaker 2>and tapping into a reservoir called subglacial Lake Willands. It

750
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:36.760
<v Speaker 2>was teeming with microbes one hundred and thirty thousand cells

751
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:40.559
<v Speaker 2>per milli liter of lake water. Wow, wows. And I

752
00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 2>understand that people are going to say, like, Okay, it's a microbe,

753
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.559
<v Speaker 2>what difference does it make. That's a lot for a

754
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:48.920
<v Speaker 2>microbe that has never seen light, never touched oxygen, and

755
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:53.239
<v Speaker 2>somehow for body estimations, here millions and millions of millions

756
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:56.000
<v Speaker 2>of years has been underneath ice and has never even

757
00:37:56.039 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 2>seen sunlight. That's impressive that it's that packed with life.

758
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was interesting how they brought up Saturn

759
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 3>and Jupiter, and we had the meteorates from Mars allegedly,

760
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:10.199
<v Speaker 3>so now they're talking about two other planets on top

761
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:11.360
<v Speaker 3>of that having life.

762
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Well maybe because one of their moons they're covered with ice.

763
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:17.159
<v Speaker 3>I know. But before they said there's no way that

764
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.719
<v Speaker 3>their life could be on any of these planets, And

765
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 3>now everything is stemming from these lakes and all the

766
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:27.440
<v Speaker 3>microbes that they were finding, microorganisms that they're finding down there,

767
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:29.880
<v Speaker 3>So saying.

768
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I agree, maybe they're from there. It's possible.

769
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Millions and millions of years. I still stand by that theory.

770
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.239
<v Speaker 2>That these microbes are alien in nature.

771
00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.119
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I do. I really do think so.

772
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the fifty to fifty side of it. Is

773
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 2>it possible that they kind of got encapsulated where they

774
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.679
<v Speaker 2>were and that they have mutated in order to survive

775
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:53.039
<v Speaker 2>in that harsh environment, and that's just why and how

776
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 2>they've operated the way they have. For sure, Is it

777
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:59.000
<v Speaker 2>possible that this whole planet is one glorified alien ant

778
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:02.519
<v Speaker 2>farm life on this planet is a part of the experiment.

779
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:03.400
<v Speaker 2>It's possible.

780
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 3>Maybe. I'm still thinking that maybe because of all the

781
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:10.159
<v Speaker 3>meters that they've had there, that potentially some type of

782
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 3>organisms have fallen from other planets at one point.

783
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:14.599
<v Speaker 2>Why not?

784
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:15.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

785
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>There's a theory out there to say that even water

786
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:20.719
<v Speaker 2>is not natural to Earth and that all of it

787
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:21.679
<v Speaker 2>came from meteors.

788
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.679
<v Speaker 3>I have heard of this, and that it just recycles

789
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:29.000
<v Speaker 3>through in which it does, and the water memory, yeah,

790
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.800
<v Speaker 3>and it holds memory, which we know, and I've been saying.

791
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:34.880
<v Speaker 3>It just makes more sense to me that they these

792
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:37.639
<v Speaker 3>potential spots that have been covered for you know, twelve

793
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 3>million plus years, could be from other planets.

794
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Very well could be Horgan Hill helped map lake villands

795
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:47.960
<v Speaker 2>before drilling began, but by the time the lake was breached,

796
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:51.599
<v Speaker 2>he and others were becoming intrigued with another facet of

797
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:54.960
<v Speaker 2>the subglacial landscape. The rivers thought to carry water from

798
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:58.320
<v Speaker 2>one lake to another and eventually to the ocean. Finding

799
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:03.199
<v Speaker 2>these hidden rivers require complicated guesswork. Guesswork. Their flow paths

800
00:40:03.239 --> 00:40:06.840
<v Speaker 2>are influenced not only by the subglacial topography, but also

801
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 2>by differences in thickness of overlying ice. Water moves from

802
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:12.840
<v Speaker 2>places where the ice is thick and the pressure is

803
00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.360
<v Speaker 2>high two places where it is thinner and the pressure

804
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:18.199
<v Speaker 2>is lower, which makes sense. That's all pump works, meaning

805
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:22.760
<v Speaker 2>that rivers can sometimes run uphill. Right again. This is

806
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:25.679
<v Speaker 2>the very basis from physics to how water moves and

807
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:27.639
<v Speaker 2>how the Romans were able to build the aqueducts to

808
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:31.679
<v Speaker 2>move water long distances as they were. By twenty fifteen,

809
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:36.000
<v Speaker 2>scientists had mapped the likely paths of several dozen subglacial rivers,

810
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<v Speaker 2>but drilling into them seem far fetched. The rivers are

811
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<v Speaker 2>now targets of the and their exact locations often uncertain.

812
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<v Speaker 2>But around that time Horgan got a lucky break. While

813
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<v Speaker 2>examining a satellite photo of camb Ice Stream, he noticed

814
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<v Speaker 2>a wrinkle in the pixelated tapestry of the image. The

815
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:55.280
<v Speaker 2>wrinkle resembled a long, shallow trough in the surface of

816
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the ice, as if the ice had sagged from melting beneath.

817
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:02.639
<v Speaker 2>The trough sets of several kilometers from the hypothetical path

818
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:06.119
<v Speaker 2>of one subglacial river. Horgan believed that it marked the

819
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:08.719
<v Speaker 2>spot where the river had flowed over a coastal plain

820
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.239
<v Speaker 2>and spilled into the ice covered sea. In twenty sixteen,

821
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.760
<v Speaker 2>while visiting the area for an unrelated research project, Horgan

822
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>and his companions detoured briefly to the surface trough to

823
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 2>take their radar measurements. Sure enough, they found a void

824
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.239
<v Speaker 2>under the ice filled with liquid water. I found it

825
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:27.119
<v Speaker 2>weird that they would have to say liquid water, because

826
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:29.159
<v Speaker 2>otherwise it would have been ice. You could have just

827
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:32.840
<v Speaker 2>said filled with water. But okay, whatever. Horgan began making

828
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:35.480
<v Speaker 2>plans to study it more closely. He would return twice

829
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<v Speaker 2>in the next few years, once to map the river

830
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.280
<v Speaker 2>in detail, and a second time to drill into it.

831
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<v Speaker 2>What he found greatly exceeded his expectations, so this is

832
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:47.760
<v Speaker 2>talking about how he mapped a subglacial landscape. Horgan and

833
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:52.159
<v Speaker 2>graduate student Aaron Whiteford of the Victoria University of Wellington

834
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.000
<v Speaker 2>visited the lower Camp ice stream to map the river

835
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<v Speaker 2>in December of twenty nineteen. After weeks on the anarch

836
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:02.000
<v Speaker 2>ice sheet, they'd grown a custom to its monotonous flat landscape,

837
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:05.840
<v Speaker 2>their perception sensitized to even tiny ups and downs. In

838
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.599
<v Speaker 2>this context, the surface trough looked like this massive chasm,

839
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<v Speaker 2>Whiffert said, like an amphitheater, even though it slanted no

840
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:17.880
<v Speaker 2>more dramatically than a rolling cornfield in Iowa. But to them,

841
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:20.079
<v Speaker 2>especially if you're used to looking at the flatness of it,

842
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Speaker 2>you'll notice this. In the it was a week of

843
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:27.599
<v Speaker 2>scientific drudgery telling the ice penetrating radar behind a snowmobile

844
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 2>along a series of straight, parallel lines that criss crossed

845
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:33.599
<v Speaker 2>through the map the shape of the river channel under

846
00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:37.480
<v Speaker 2>the ice. Horgan and Whitford, Whiteford, Witniford, I don't know.

847
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Worked up to twelve hours per day, occasionally trading positions.

848
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:43.920
<v Speaker 2>One person drove the snowmobile, straining his thumb on the

849
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:47.480
<v Speaker 2>throttle to maintain a consistent eight kilometer per hour two

850
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:51.199
<v Speaker 2>sleds hissed along behind one haliday transmitter that fired radar

851
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:54.599
<v Speaker 2>waves into the glacier below. The other hailed in antenna

852
00:42:54.639 --> 00:42:57.719
<v Speaker 2>that received the signal reflecting back from the bottom of

853
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.400
<v Speaker 2>the ice. The second person rode on this led with

854
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:03.599
<v Speaker 2>the antenna, his eyes on a bouncing laptop screen, making

855
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:09.280
<v Speaker 2>sure that the radar was functioning even each evenly, each

856
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:13.400
<v Speaker 2>evening Jesus, they huddled in their tent, reviewing the radar traces.

857
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:16.480
<v Speaker 2>The river channel appeared far more dramatic than the gentle

858
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:20.400
<v Speaker 2>dip atop the ice suggested. Below their boots sat a

859
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 2>vast waterfilled cavern with steep sides like a train tunnel,

860
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.960
<v Speaker 2>two hundred meters to a kilometer wide and cutting as

861
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:29.360
<v Speaker 2>much as fifty percent of the way up the glacier.

862
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 2>They The more they looked, the more it resembled a

863
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:37.719
<v Speaker 2>river kind of meanders downstream, Whitford said Altahll. Whitford made

864
00:43:37.719 --> 00:43:41.400
<v Speaker 2>two week long visits to the trough snowmobiling over from

865
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:44.519
<v Speaker 2>another camp fifty kilometers away. The first time he was

866
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.519
<v Speaker 2>accompanied by Horgan, and the second time by another graduate student,

867
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Martin Forbes. After returning home to New Zealand in January

868
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:54.599
<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty, Whitford examined a series of old satellite images.

869
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.400
<v Speaker 2>They showed that the surface trough and hence the cavern,

870
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:01.480
<v Speaker 2>had begun forming at least thirty five years before. So

871
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:04.440
<v Speaker 2>it started forming thirty five years prior.

872
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty quick and.

873
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:08.360
<v Speaker 2>They just happened upon it in the way that they did,

874
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:13.599
<v Speaker 2>which is impressive. Starting with a blip at the very

875
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:15.840
<v Speaker 2>mouth of the river where it ran into the ocean.

876
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:20.679
<v Speaker 2>That blip had gradually lengthened, reaching progressively further inland and upstream.

877
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:24.039
<v Speaker 2>Whitford and Horgan reported the observations in late twenty two

878
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 2>in the Journal of Geophysical Research Earth Surface, along with

879
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:32.960
<v Speaker 2>their theory about how the cavern formed. So I wanted

880
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 2>to get down to where they talk about how it formed?

881
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.880
<v Speaker 2>So how did the cavern form? On December fourth, twenty

882
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:43.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty one, a pair of caterpillar tracked Pittston bullies arrived

883
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:45.920
<v Speaker 2>at the place where Horgan and Whitford had visited two

884
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.920
<v Speaker 2>years before. The tractors had traveled for sixteen days from

885
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:51.400
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand scott based on the edge of the continent,

886
00:44:51.519 --> 00:44:54.639
<v Speaker 2>growling across one thousand kilometers of floating ice as they

887
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.320
<v Speaker 2>towed a convoy of sleds packed with ninety metric tons

888
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:01.880
<v Speaker 2>of food, fuel, and so scientific gear. The convoy lumbered

889
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.360
<v Speaker 2>around to the upstream end of the valley and stopped.

890
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Workers escorted a tent the size of a small aircraft hangar,

891
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:11.679
<v Speaker 2>and inside it assembled a series of water heaters, pumps,

892
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.760
<v Speaker 2>and a kilometer of hose a machine called a hot

893
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:18.320
<v Speaker 2>water drill. Using shovels and a small mechanized scooper, they

894
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>dumped fifty four tons of snow into a tank and

895
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:25.320
<v Speaker 2>melted it. The workers then jetted that hot water through

896
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the hose, using it to melt a narrow hole no

897
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:31.039
<v Speaker 2>wider than a dinner plate, through five hundred meters of ice,

898
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:34.559
<v Speaker 2>and down through the domed ceiling of the cavern. So

899
00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.760
<v Speaker 2>this is actually kind of a three D model of

900
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 2>what it was that they were looking at here. It's

901
00:45:39.519 --> 00:45:43.920
<v Speaker 2>pretty impressive. Workers next lowered an instrument down the borehole

902
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:47.440
<v Speaker 2>to measure the water temperature and salinity inside the cavern.

903
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.440
<v Speaker 2>They found that the top fifty meters of water cold,

904
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:54.800
<v Speaker 2>of water colder and fresher than what lay below, confirming

905
00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:57.920
<v Speaker 2>that seawater was flowing in along the bottom and more

906
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:01.239
<v Speaker 2>buoyant mixture of saltwater and fresh water was flowing out

907
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:04.880
<v Speaker 2>along the top the cavern, says Stevens, is operating quite

908
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.599
<v Speaker 2>like an estuary. But those measurements also presented a mystery.

909
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:10.519
<v Speaker 2>The water on top of the cavern was only about

910
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:13.559
<v Speaker 2>one percent less salty than the sea water in its bottom,

911
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:16.880
<v Speaker 2>suggesting that the amount of fresh water flowing in through

912
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:20.199
<v Speaker 2>the river was quite small. It's akin to a shallow

913
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 2>creek that a young kid might splash round in. He

914
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.599
<v Speaker 2>and Horgan doubted that the turbulence caused by this small flow,

915
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:28.840
<v Speaker 2>even over thirty five years, could melt the entire cavern

916
00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:32.960
<v Speaker 2>roughly a cubic kilometer of ice. They go on later

917
00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:35.039
<v Speaker 2>on to say that it's because of this movement might

918
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:38.400
<v Speaker 2>be bringing more of a gravelly mixture or salty mixture

919
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:41.199
<v Speaker 2>that might be eroding some of the ice away too.

920
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:45.119
<v Speaker 2>But all of that to say there the first theory

921
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 2>that we read about was basically saying that there's hot

922
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:51.679
<v Speaker 2>rocks and radioactive rocks that are heating up water along

923
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:55.440
<v Speaker 2>the bottom, and this is what's flowing essentially and making

924
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:58.159
<v Speaker 2>more and more of these caverns happen. Now they're saying

925
00:46:58.199 --> 00:47:02.360
<v Speaker 2>that these caverns are being made by essentially rivers that

926
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:04.719
<v Speaker 2>are flowing from one lake to another or one pond

927
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.000
<v Speaker 2>to another. However, they want to classify that, and they're

928
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.719
<v Speaker 2>saying that that might be what's making the caverns bigger

929
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:14.679
<v Speaker 2>in certain areas. But again, it's not exactly a guaranteed

930
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:17.800
<v Speaker 2>answer one way or another. They're finding these readings, sure,

931
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:21.519
<v Speaker 2>but nothing is confirmed. It's all belief and theory at

932
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 2>this point. So now let's look at the National Snow

933
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:28.199
<v Speaker 2>and Ice Data Center. Okay, so the title of this

934
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:32.199
<v Speaker 2>is Surge and Antarctica's Melting as New Year arrives, and

935
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:34.880
<v Speaker 2>this is from January of this year, twenty twenty five.

936
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Widespread coastal melting occurred in Antarctica through the second and

937
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:42.519
<v Speaker 2>half of December and is continuing in it in the

938
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:44.719
<v Speaker 2>first few days of the new year. In several areas,

939
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:48.320
<v Speaker 2>nearly every region with routine surface snow melt has had

940
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:51.199
<v Speaker 2>more days of melt than it's typical for the first

941
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:53.920
<v Speaker 2>time of year or for this time of year. Other

942
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.559
<v Speaker 2>causes of the melting vary by region, but it's noteworthy

943
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:01.559
<v Speaker 2>that the temperature over Antarctic ice sheets have been generally

944
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 2>above average by roughly two degrees celsius or about four

945
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:09.159
<v Speaker 2>degrees fahrenheit over the entire latter half of twenty twenty four.

946
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:13.280
<v Speaker 2>By contrast, cooler conditions prevail over the adjacent ocean in

947
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 2>the Wettele and Ross Seas, which contributed to a slower

948
00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:20.719
<v Speaker 2>springtime sea ice retreat. So now we're talking current conditions,

949
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.440
<v Speaker 2>and they do have a lot of graphs and maps

950
00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 2>showing a lot of this data. Once again, if you

951
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:27.199
<v Speaker 2>would like to see what we're talking about round then

952
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 2>just hear about Patreon dot com slash could Conspiracy podcast.

953
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Surface melt extent over the Antarctic ice sheet rose sharply

954
00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:37.760
<v Speaker 2>again in late December after a record melt event in

955
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:41.119
<v Speaker 2>mid December, culminating in an all time record melt extent

956
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:45.159
<v Speaker 2>in the passive microwave satellite record on December twenty fifth

957
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and twenty sixth, surpassing three percent of the ice sheet area.

958
00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Surface melt remained high in the first few days of

959
00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:55.280
<v Speaker 2>the new year, particularly in the Northern Peninsula in its

960
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 2>second melt surge. Surface melting happened over several areas of

961
00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:04.400
<v Speaker 2>the eastern Antarctic, including the Amory West and Shackleton ice shelves,

962
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:09.039
<v Speaker 2>the Totten Glacier and Porpoise Bay region, and hook are

963
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Sorry cook Inlet. Nearly all these areas have already accumulated

964
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:16.639
<v Speaker 2>above average melt days for the first time of year

965
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:20.559
<v Speaker 2>by five to ten days. So they're talking about just

966
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:23.039
<v Speaker 2>in generality. There's a lot of melt going on here,

967
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:26.480
<v Speaker 2>so conditions. So the causes for the widespread melt event

968
00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 2>in late December vary from region to region. In the peninsula,

969
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:32.119
<v Speaker 2>an arrangement of low pressure in the west and high

970
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:36.199
<v Speaker 2>pressure to the northeast drove persistent eastward winds across peninsula,

971
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:39.559
<v Speaker 2>leading to downslope warm and dry wind events over the

972
00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:42.840
<v Speaker 2>northeastern Larsen ice shelf. Oh, I didn't mean to bump

973
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.440
<v Speaker 2>the camera. About that. Sorry about that. The iconic wind

974
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:49.320
<v Speaker 2>pattern of the low pressure was extensive enough to also

975
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>drive winds from the east along to the southern end

976
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:57.079
<v Speaker 2>of the peninsula, bringing phone winds phone fall fun.

977
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:02.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, it's foe e each inn, just in case anyone's wondering.

978
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Looks like a damn Celtic word. Full fall hon and

979
00:50:05.639 --> 00:50:08.800
<v Speaker 2>melts on to the George. The Sixth and Wilkins ice

980
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:12.800
<v Speaker 2>shelves along the eastern Antarctic coast from Enderby land Land

981
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.800
<v Speaker 2>all the way to Cape Adare. The melting was accompanied

982
00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:19.239
<v Speaker 2>by several strong low pressure systems that closely approached the coastline,

983
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:23.679
<v Speaker 2>again drawing strong downhill winds off the continental ice where

984
00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:27.119
<v Speaker 2>prominent above average air pressure fed low pressure offshore areas.

985
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.760
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, long story short, they're saying that they don't

986
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:33.199
<v Speaker 2>understand why, but there's a lot of melt going on

987
00:50:33.239 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 2>in this area. Some of it they're attributing to weather.

988
00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Some of it they're attributing to hot rocks and radioactive rocks.

989
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Some of it they're attributing to moving water underneath the

990
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.400
<v Speaker 2>ice sheets. But either way you slice it, there's a

991
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.079
<v Speaker 2>lot of theories going on, and they all might have

992
00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:51.440
<v Speaker 2>their kernel of truth, but this doesn't explain how forty

993
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.480
<v Speaker 2>to four hundred what was one hundred and forty caverns

994
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:55.119
<v Speaker 2>have formed?

995
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:58.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean it said there was three hundred and fifty.

996
00:50:58.079 --> 00:51:00.440
<v Speaker 3>On the one article we read like four hundred something

997
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:05.079
<v Speaker 3>yesterday of lakes and different things like that. I will say.

998
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:08.440
<v Speaker 3>On the other article, it was talking about the sediment

999
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.440
<v Speaker 3>and it had the silt and sand mixture, and then

1000
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:14.239
<v Speaker 3>they had sedimentologists that were coming in looking at it

1001
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:18.199
<v Speaker 3>as well, which I could understand that if there's movement

1002
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:20.880
<v Speaker 3>in the water and the silt is coming up and

1003
00:51:20.920 --> 00:51:25.719
<v Speaker 3>the salt water is gaining saltiness, yeah, I could see

1004
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:28.239
<v Speaker 3>how that is, and it's pushing over into other caverns

1005
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:31.599
<v Speaker 3>and it's creating this whole network of tunnels. Pretty much,

1006
00:51:31.960 --> 00:51:36.519
<v Speaker 3>I could understand that. But it's interesting how different theories

1007
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 3>are coming about in the last decade of what's happening.

1008
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.360
<v Speaker 3>But also they've been learning a lot more in the

1009
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 3>last decade and being able to reach new locations.

1010
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:47.639
<v Speaker 2>But then they're talking about how some of these rivers,

1011
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:50.679
<v Speaker 2>how they're able to flow uphill, which is impressive. But

1012
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:53.119
<v Speaker 2>this makes sense when you understand pressure DIFFERENTI and I

1013
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:56.599
<v Speaker 2>get this, but they're not giving any clear answers as

1014
00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:58.719
<v Speaker 2>to what started the melt.

1015
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:03.480
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting to me that it's only taken thirty five years,

1016
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:07.079
<v Speaker 3>considering when we read some of the other articles it's

1017
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:12.280
<v Speaker 3>taken a million years to do something. If that was

1018
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:14.760
<v Speaker 3>like the shortest time frame, normally it's around like twelve

1019
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:18.159
<v Speaker 3>mili so I'm surprised. But then that goes back to

1020
00:52:18.199 --> 00:52:20.239
<v Speaker 3>the whole conversation of climate change.

1021
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.960
<v Speaker 2>But which which is why I don't believe that, because

1022
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:24.960
<v Speaker 2>there's no way that we have done that much damage

1023
00:52:25.000 --> 00:52:28.119
<v Speaker 2>on Earth in thirty five years. They blame us for

1024
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:30.320
<v Speaker 2>so much, and by us, I do mean the human race.

1025
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:32.159
<v Speaker 2>They blame us for all of these things that take

1026
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:34.079
<v Speaker 2>place over the last one hundred years, but somehow in

1027
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:36.719
<v Speaker 2>the last thirty five it's gotten that much worse, when

1028
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:39.599
<v Speaker 2>there's more EPA regulations from all of these countries now

1029
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:40.440
<v Speaker 2>than ever before.

1030
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:43.199
<v Speaker 3>I will say that first article we read on the

1031
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:47.199
<v Speaker 3>other episode did show, or actually the clip, it did

1032
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:51.000
<v Speaker 3>show the warming and the cooling periods, and it showed

1033
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:54.480
<v Speaker 3>different graphs of how it warmed up and how it

1034
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:57.039
<v Speaker 3>looked first when it got into the cold periods, and

1035
00:52:57.039 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 3>that we're currently on a warming cycle on the uptick,

1036
00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:04.440
<v Speaker 3>and so it is naturally warming in itself. I just

1037
00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:07.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't think that it was warming that quickly. But some

1038
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:10.159
<v Speaker 3>of the articles have suggested that there is ice that

1039
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:14.480
<v Speaker 3>is extremely vulnerable. So if it is already melting and

1040
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:17.480
<v Speaker 3>already having issues, then I could see that be happening.

1041
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:19.760
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, it wouldn't make sense for

1042
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:22.159
<v Speaker 2>the water to be melting from the bottom if the

1043
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:24.280
<v Speaker 2>earth is getting warmer and we're able to feel it

1044
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:26.760
<v Speaker 2>on the surface level. Wouldn't you see in this article

1045
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:28.880
<v Speaker 2>does talk about a lot of surface level melting that

1046
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.280
<v Speaker 2>is happening, and I get that. I respect that, But

1047
00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:33.400
<v Speaker 2>to the level that they're making it out to where

1048
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:36.840
<v Speaker 2>these massive caverns are forming from warmer water or from

1049
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:40.960
<v Speaker 2>radioactive rocks or whatever, that makes no sense as far

1050
00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:43.199
<v Speaker 2>as because of global warming or climate change. I was

1051
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.960
<v Speaker 2>just say climate change because they've now changed the narrative

1052
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:46.239
<v Speaker 2>on that.

1053
00:53:46.280 --> 00:53:49.000
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, the tectonic plates are shifting, they have

1054
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:52.719
<v Speaker 3>been shifting, and we're kind of on that precipice of

1055
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:57.599
<v Speaker 3>potentially having another shift, as in not fully Pangaea. But

1056
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:00.000
<v Speaker 3>if we do have a shift where the tectonic plates

1057
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:04.199
<v Speaker 3>release more of the core heat, yeah, than it could

1058
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:06.599
<v Speaker 3>be potentially affecting in arcticat.

1059
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.199
<v Speaker 2>That's a very good point. All right. So there you

1060
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:13.519
<v Speaker 2>have it as far as this one is concerned. Okay,

1061
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:15.400
<v Speaker 2>so now we've kind of covered the fact that the

1062
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:19.800
<v Speaker 2>melting is inexplicable. They have a couple of working theories,

1063
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:22.239
<v Speaker 2>nothing that they're really married to as far as this

1064
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:27.119
<v Speaker 2>concept is concerned. Now we're gonna shift gears to another

1065
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:32.559
<v Speaker 2>well understood conspiracy. When it comes to Antarctica, it's time

1066
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:38.000
<v Speaker 2>to talk about Hitler's frozen based New Schwabenland. Perhaps you've

1067
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:41.840
<v Speaker 2>heard of it, let's get into it together. By the way,

1068
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:44.679
<v Speaker 2>new Schwabenland, yep, it all goes off of the ship

1069
00:54:44.719 --> 00:54:45.679
<v Speaker 2>that got them there. Believe it.

1070
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:47.480
<v Speaker 3>To be honest with you, it just makes you think

1071
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:48.000
<v Speaker 3>of a car.

1072
00:54:48.800 --> 00:54:54.400
<v Speaker 2>But how does that? What like a Volkswagen? Yeah, the

1073
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:55.519
<v Speaker 2>New Schwabinland.

1074
00:54:57.280 --> 00:54:58.440
<v Speaker 3>You don't have my headphones on?

1075
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:01.880
<v Speaker 2>You don't like?

1076
00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:03.199
<v Speaker 3>Why can't I hear myself?

1077
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:08.119
<v Speaker 2>The new eight seedo Schwabenland is coming to America. Sounah,

1078
00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:13.360
<v Speaker 2>let's learn about it here. The fact and the fact

1079
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:16.760
<v Speaker 2>that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence

1080
00:55:16.880 --> 00:55:22.039
<v Speaker 2>whatsoever that is not utterly absurd Bertrand Russell eighteen seventy

1081
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.119
<v Speaker 2>two to nineteen seventy I don't know what that's supposed

1082
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.599
<v Speaker 2>to mean, but let's get into it here. Another direct quote.

1083
00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:31.239
<v Speaker 2>A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence. Let's

1084
00:55:31.239 --> 00:55:34.119
<v Speaker 2>talk about that evidence. In the late nineteen thirties, the

1085
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Nazis showed an interest in Antarctica and sent an expedition

1086
00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:40.159
<v Speaker 2>to survey a part of it and claim it for Germany.

1087
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:43.960
<v Speaker 2>The claim was not continued, but it sowed the seeds

1088
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:46.639
<v Speaker 2>for a whole range of fantasies about secret things that

1089
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:52.639
<v Speaker 2>might be going on. So when you say that there's

1090
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:55.840
<v Speaker 2>some pretty inexplicable things that took place after the fact,

1091
00:55:55.840 --> 00:55:58.800
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get into them right now. I'm just saying

1092
00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:00.840
<v Speaker 2>to say that, oh, well, just gonna went there. But

1093
00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:06.360
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't for anything crazy. There's quite some compelling evidence

1094
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:08.719
<v Speaker 2>to say that Hitler made his way to Antarctica for

1095
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:10.400
<v Speaker 2>a few reasons.

1096
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:12.000
<v Speaker 3>I love the language.

1097
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:14.119
<v Speaker 2>What the misleading and all that.

1098
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the misleading, the making you question your own thought process,

1099
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 3>thinking like hmmm, am I actually just believing some random bullshit?

1100
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.559
<v Speaker 3>Or should I just keep not looking into this or not.

1101
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:29.079
<v Speaker 3>It's very intelligent. It's yeah, to be able to mislead people.

1102
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:31.400
<v Speaker 3>And we have key trigger words that we've heard all

1103
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.039
<v Speaker 3>of our lives to be like, oh, yeah, like conspiracy.

1104
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:37.880
<v Speaker 3>How we kneed your reaction, You're just like, oh, they're crazy.

1105
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:41.679
<v Speaker 3>You immediately get an image of some crazy person dweller

1106
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:45.119
<v Speaker 3>in the basement wearing some tinfoil hat, and that is

1107
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:49.320
<v Speaker 3>unanimously across the board. Right, So to have that kind

1108
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:50.920
<v Speaker 3>of language just start out, it's like.

1109
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:54.039
<v Speaker 2>Okay, but I mean that's the thing though, there is

1110
00:56:54.199 --> 00:56:57.920
<v Speaker 2>there are some that take this information and take a

1111
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:01.880
<v Speaker 2>few excerpts from it and while their whole cork board

1112
00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:04.760
<v Speaker 2>of conspiracy theory based off of a few kernel of

1113
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:08.880
<v Speaker 2>truth things. But when you throw more and more of

1114
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:12.920
<v Speaker 2>these kernels of truth, not hypotheticals, not opinion based things,

1115
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:17.360
<v Speaker 2>actual facts, ravenly you tell me what you think about

1116
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:18.280
<v Speaker 2>it when we get towards the.

1117
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:20.000
<v Speaker 3>End of this, because I'm going to hold off on

1118
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:22.960
<v Speaker 3>my process until we get through all of this.

1119
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:24.760
<v Speaker 2>All right, So now let's get into it. So this

1120
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:30.320
<v Speaker 2>is from Coolantarctica dot com. What really Happened New Schwabenland

1121
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:34.400
<v Speaker 2>a little known German expedition to Antarctica from the seventeenth

1122
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.239
<v Speaker 2>of December nineteen thirty eight to the twelfth of April

1123
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:40.119
<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty nine, so we're talking about give or take

1124
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:44.800
<v Speaker 2>four months on the ship MS Schwabenland had the purpose

1125
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:49.119
<v Speaker 2>of claiming an entire area known as Droning maud Land,

1126
00:57:49.599 --> 00:57:53.840
<v Speaker 2>mainly to protect the German whaling industry, because you know

1127
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:57.079
<v Speaker 2>how badly those Germans needed their whale blubber.

1128
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.239
<v Speaker 3>That's really needed, I guess holocausts.

1129
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Because there's so much that was right totally, and I

1130
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:06.760
<v Speaker 2>understand that like Hitler was trying to feed his entire

1131
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:10.480
<v Speaker 2>country with socialism, right, which is what the s and Nazi,

1132
00:58:10.719 --> 00:58:14.400
<v Speaker 2>the Z and Nazi stands for the National German Workman's

1133
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Socialist Party. Okay, fine, here's the deal. It's really difficult

1134
00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:22.480
<v Speaker 2>to feed people socialistically without food. That being said, it's

1135
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:25.280
<v Speaker 2>not like whale blobber's uh, you know, staple in the

1136
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:28.480
<v Speaker 2>German diet. And whenever there's a video we're going to

1137
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:29.960
<v Speaker 2>play here in a bit to talk more about this,

1138
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:34.760
<v Speaker 2>even out loud hearing the quote unquote official narrative as

1139
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:37.320
<v Speaker 2>to why Germany went to Antarctica or to protect their

1140
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:40.880
<v Speaker 2>whaling interests, I don't actually think, and I don't know

1141
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:43.599
<v Speaker 2>this for a fact, I don't think the Antarctica has

1142
00:58:43.679 --> 00:58:46.599
<v Speaker 2>ever had a thriving whaling industry.

1143
00:58:47.039 --> 00:58:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Actually, they're using the blubber to burn the burn the pits.

1144
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:54.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they said that they were using those the whale

1145
00:58:54.199 --> 00:58:58.119
<v Speaker 2>oil to oil their lamps because you know, kerosene was

1146
00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:00.159
<v Speaker 2>not a thing, I guess, or it was all to

1147
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the war effort, and then they were also going to

1148
00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:05.840
<v Speaker 2>try to make margarine out of the whale blubber. I've

1149
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.840
<v Speaker 2>never in my life one time heard of whale blubber

1150
00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:12.760
<v Speaker 2>being used for margarine in place of butter.

1151
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like if they were actually like burning you know,

1152
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.400
<v Speaker 3>massive amounts of Jews, I guess, but you know they

1153
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:22.360
<v Speaker 3>got they were using them for all sorts of other experiments.

1154
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:25.280
<v Speaker 2>But there was gas that was being used the gas chambers,

1155
00:59:25.320 --> 00:59:27.719
<v Speaker 2>but not for the not for the gassing, I mean

1156
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:30.199
<v Speaker 2>the actual burning. They had natural gas that was ran

1157
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:34.039
<v Speaker 2>into the ovens. So like it's anyway, let's that's why

1158
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:37.599
<v Speaker 2>I was joking. Yeah, totally, because you know, the people

1159
00:59:37.639 --> 00:59:40.800
<v Speaker 2>in Poland smelling the whale blobber burning would be like, huh,

1160
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I guess that German plant over there is doing some

1161
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:45.800
<v Speaker 2>real whaling work in Poland.

1162
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:48.159
<v Speaker 3>The random screams, I wonder what that's from.

1163
00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, must be the trees. Yeah, the neighboring cities to these, uh,

1164
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.480
<v Speaker 2>these places where the Holocaust took place, all of them

1165
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:58.079
<v Speaker 2>were just like we never noticed. It's like, bro, the

1166
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:01.039
<v Speaker 2>smell of burning flesh is not something that you ever

1167
01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:04.719
<v Speaker 2>will mistake. And you're telling me you smelled it for years,

1168
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:07.360
<v Speaker 2>day and night and night. Yeah, they were just trying

1169
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:09.119
<v Speaker 2>to play dumb because they didn't want to get roped

1170
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:12.280
<v Speaker 2>into some fucking guilt on some court. Shit.

1171
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:15.840
<v Speaker 3>They should feel guilty, they really should, absolutely should feel

1172
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:19.360
<v Speaker 3>guilty for the amount of people that died. But we're

1173
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:20.480
<v Speaker 3>side stepping, yeah we are.

1174
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:24.639
<v Speaker 2>Anyway. So this area had been previously explored by Norway

1175
01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:27.719
<v Speaker 2>and was formally claimed by the Norwegians in January of

1176
01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:31.199
<v Speaker 2>twenty or nineteen thirty nine, Jesus, after the Germans had

1177
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:35.440
<v Speaker 2>set sail but been but before they arrived in Antarctica. Okay,

1178
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:38.039
<v Speaker 2>so apparently the Norwegians got there just a little bit

1179
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:41.599
<v Speaker 2>before them, right, my people. But then they also were like, no,

1180
01:00:41.719 --> 01:00:43.559
<v Speaker 2>we're just gonna take it anyway because we're Nazis and

1181
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:46.239
<v Speaker 2>that's just kind of what we do. The Schwabenland was

1182
01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:50.320
<v Speaker 2>equipped with a steam catapult and two dorn your Wall

1183
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:55.840
<v Speaker 2>flying boats okay, which were used to photographically survey six

1184
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.639
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand square kilometers. About a dozen aluminum flags were

1185
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:03.239
<v Speaker 2>dropped from the aircraft after turning points of flight, Polygons

1186
01:01:03.280 --> 01:01:06.480
<v Speaker 2>and others were left by foot expeditions. None of these

1187
01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:12.039
<v Speaker 2>have ever been recovered interesting. The last surveyed was claimed

1188
01:01:12.039 --> 01:01:15.840
<v Speaker 2>by Germany in August of nineteen thirty nine as New Schwabenland,

1189
01:01:16.039 --> 01:01:19.159
<v Speaker 2>named from the ship. The outbreak of the war prevented

1190
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:23.360
<v Speaker 2>two further planned expeditions, expeditions and the possible building of

1191
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:26.840
<v Speaker 2>a base, though most probably to the other side of

1192
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica in the Pacific sector, away from the Norwegian claim.

1193
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:34.039
<v Speaker 2>The claim was abandoned in nineteen forty five. This part's

1194
01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:37.239
<v Speaker 2>in bold. There is no evidence of any further German

1195
01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:41.960
<v Speaker 2>activity in Antarctica during World War two? Oh is there not?

1196
01:01:42.639 --> 01:01:48.199
<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about these two very interesting U boats.

1197
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:51.280
<v Speaker 2>On the morning of the tenth of July nineteen forty five,

1198
01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:54.119
<v Speaker 2>the German U boat U five point thirty arrived in

1199
01:01:54.360 --> 01:01:59.000
<v Speaker 2>argentinan naval base at Mar del Plata near Buenos Aires,

1200
01:01:59.239 --> 01:02:02.079
<v Speaker 2>two months after the German surrender in the end of

1201
01:02:02.119 --> 01:02:04.239
<v Speaker 2>the war in Europe. On the eighth of May in

1202
01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:08.320
<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty five, rumors spread that it had brought Hitler,

1203
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Eva Braun, Martin Borman and others and had landed them

1204
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:17.000
<v Speaker 2>on the coast of Patagonia or Antarctica before reaching Mar

1205
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:21.079
<v Speaker 2>del Plaza a week later. A Hungarian exile in Argentina,

1206
01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Ladislas Sabo Sebo wrote a detailed account in local newspaper

1207
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:30.440
<v Speaker 2>of how Hitler and his entourage had supposedly escaped Germany.

1208
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:33.639
<v Speaker 2>The story quickly spread worldwide, and versions of it appeared

1209
01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:37.280
<v Speaker 2>in other newspapers in many countries. On the seventeenth of August,

1210
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:40.960
<v Speaker 2>another U boat U nine seven seven also arrived at

1211
01:02:40.960 --> 01:02:45.079
<v Speaker 2>martl Plata, further fuelling speculation. The commanders of these U

1212
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:47.880
<v Speaker 2>boats and their crews were arrested and interrogated by naval

1213
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:51.480
<v Speaker 2>personnel in Argentina, the US, and the UK. They all

1214
01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:57.119
<v Speaker 2>concluded that their arrivals were in cook In co inc innocuous.

1215
01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, wow. They all concluded that their arrival were innocuous,

1216
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:05.039
<v Speaker 2>and the crews were released. Jermany just surrendered. Everybody's getting

1217
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:06.840
<v Speaker 2>brought in for war crimes, and they're like, oh, these

1218
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:09.239
<v Speaker 2>two lost U boats that nobody's seen him forever. Oh,

1219
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:12.360
<v Speaker 2>it's just whatever, They're fine, let them go. Two years later,

1220
01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:15.599
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen forty seven, Sabo published a book Hitler Is Alive,

1221
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:18.760
<v Speaker 2>where he claimed these two U boats had been had

1222
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:22.079
<v Speaker 2>taken fleeing senior Nazis to Antarctica as part of a

1223
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:25.800
<v Speaker 2>submarine convoy. The commander of U nine seven to seven,

1224
01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:30.039
<v Speaker 2>in particular Heinz Schaeffer, denied this, but the rumor still spread.

1225
01:03:30.079 --> 01:03:32.519
<v Speaker 2>In another version of the story, it is Hitler's ashes

1226
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:34.760
<v Speaker 2>that were taken to Antarctica and placed in a special

1227
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:39.079
<v Speaker 2>ice cave along with Nazi treasure. Interesting because allegedly Hitler's

1228
01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:42.559
<v Speaker 2>body was found by the Russians, even though years later

1229
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:45.159
<v Speaker 2>they did DNA test results on that skull and it

1230
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.880
<v Speaker 2>belongs to a woman and it wasn't Eva Braun either,

1231
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:50.239
<v Speaker 2>they thought that that might be the case. It's not so.

1232
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:53.400
<v Speaker 2>The entire story about Hitler's body is a lie. Sabo

1233
01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:56.599
<v Speaker 2>claimed that the Nazi Antarctic base called New Burke and

1234
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Burg checks tests gayden Yep have been built in nineteen

1235
01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:05.440
<v Speaker 2>thirty eight to nineteen thirty nine. This idea has taken

1236
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:08.000
<v Speaker 2>up by several authors over the years, often building on

1237
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:11.920
<v Speaker 2>earlier embellishments, with tails becoming even more fantastical as the

1238
01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:15.880
<v Speaker 2>time they went on. The submarine convoy and the new

1239
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Birkinstarscott in Sure base both first appear when described by Sabo.

1240
01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:25.079
<v Speaker 2>There's no reference to either before this publication. Subsequent publications

1241
01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:28.000
<v Speaker 2>refer to what he initially described, and there has never

1242
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:29.639
<v Speaker 2>been any evidence of either.

1243
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.800
<v Speaker 3>I one hundred percent that believe that Hitler went to

1244
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:34.880
<v Speaker 3>South America.

1245
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I absolutely do too. Now I'm not gonna say

1246
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:42.599
<v Speaker 2>whether he went to Antarctica first, that's that's a take,

1247
01:04:42.840 --> 01:04:46.000
<v Speaker 2>that's a hot take. I think it would have been

1248
01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:49.440
<v Speaker 2>very difficult to refuel a U boat after your entire

1249
01:04:49.559 --> 01:04:53.079
<v Speaker 2>war logistical scheme just collapsed, and you made it from

1250
01:04:53.119 --> 01:04:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Germany to Antarctica, and even if you had a fuel

1251
01:04:56.559 --> 01:05:00.159
<v Speaker 2>station in Antarctica, getting a U boat, I don't, off

1252
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the top of my head know what the fuel capacity

1253
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.519
<v Speaker 2>was of these ships at this time, But getting one

1254
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:08.960
<v Speaker 2>of these things from Germany to Antarctica in one go

1255
01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:15.079
<v Speaker 2>sounds pretty difficult. Getting one from Antarctica to Argentina might

1256
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:17.159
<v Speaker 2>be a little more feasible, but we're talking about you

1257
01:05:17.320 --> 01:05:20.840
<v Speaker 2>essentially crossing the entire Atlantic Sea.

1258
01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:24.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that he stopped in Antarctica. I think

1259
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.079
<v Speaker 3>that I think that he went to South America, and

1260
01:05:26.119 --> 01:05:29.559
<v Speaker 3>that's where he was indeed until he died.

1261
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:33.079
<v Speaker 2>Right. So now let's get into another secret thing that

1262
01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:37.039
<v Speaker 2>most people don't know about, the secret British wartime operations.

1263
01:05:37.639 --> 01:05:40.440
<v Speaker 2>While the Germans were not active in Antarctica during the war,

1264
01:05:40.719 --> 01:05:43.440
<v Speaker 2>the British were. Great Britain had claimed the sector in

1265
01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica between twenty degrees west and eighty degrees west and

1266
01:05:46.920 --> 01:05:49.760
<v Speaker 2>to the south Pole in nineteen oh eight. Argentina claimed

1267
01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:53.400
<v Speaker 2>pretty much the same secture from the mid nineteen twenties,

1268
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:56.519
<v Speaker 2>and so did Chile in nineteen forty. Argentina and Chile

1269
01:05:56.599 --> 01:05:59.639
<v Speaker 2>were both friendly with Germany, obviously, And if you don't

1270
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:01.360
<v Speaker 2>believe that, by the way, go ahead and look at

1271
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the fifty Nazi qualities that are currently operating in Argentina

1272
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:09.480
<v Speaker 2>and Chile and a couple other places as we speak

1273
01:06:09.519 --> 01:06:13.480
<v Speaker 2>in Venezuela. Might add around South America there is fifty

1274
01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Bohemian colonies that all still fly Nazi flags. You do

1275
01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:22.800
<v Speaker 2>with that information what you want, But anyway you looked

1276
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:24.079
<v Speaker 2>at them up, what was it? Oh?

1277
01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:27.599
<v Speaker 3>I did look up how the U boat capacity fuel capacity?

1278
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.320
<v Speaker 3>It's sixty seven tons, okay, but like I don't know,

1279
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:34.440
<v Speaker 3>allow for a range of six two hundred nautical miles

1280
01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:37.559
<v Speaker 3>at the speed of ten knots wind surfaced.

1281
01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:40.519
<v Speaker 2>And I just again I don't know. Right off the

1282
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:41.119
<v Speaker 2>top of my head.

1283
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:44.400
<v Speaker 3>But it says critical for long range operations during World

1284
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:44.840
<v Speaker 3>War Two.

1285
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:48.239
<v Speaker 2>But six thousand nautical miles. I don't know this for

1286
01:06:48.280 --> 01:06:51.880
<v Speaker 2>a fact, but I feel right, just I feel that

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01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Argentina might be longer than six thousand nautical miles away

1288
01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:01.800
<v Speaker 2>from Antarctica. And I also know for a fact that

1289
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Germany is further away than to Antarctica than six thousand

1290
01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:08.159
<v Speaker 2>aautical miles.

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01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:10.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to find it right now, honestly.

1292
01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Just you know, and we're going off with best case scenario,

1293
01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.000
<v Speaker 2>as the crow flies or I guess, as the U

1294
01:07:16.119 --> 01:07:20.199
<v Speaker 2>boat sails, submerges, whatever the case, I just.

1295
01:07:20.280 --> 01:07:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Have hard I didn't find a whole article about how

1296
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:25.280
<v Speaker 3>the U boats surfaced up in Argentina.

1297
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, I guess not even a hypothetical. These two

1298
01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:33.280
<v Speaker 2>U boats absolutely ended up or in Argentina. So was

1299
01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Hitler on board? Was he not? Who knows?

1300
01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:39.559
<v Speaker 3>Apparently U five three zero was supposedly dispatched to launch

1301
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:43.039
<v Speaker 3>a nerve gas attack on New York City in retaliation

1302
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:44.679
<v Speaker 3>for Desden bombing.

1303
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and these both of these U boats when they

1304
01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:49.519
<v Speaker 2>got to Argentina and they were all, you know, interrogated,

1305
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:53.280
<v Speaker 2>they could not account for where they had been. So

1306
01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:55.159
<v Speaker 2>is it possible they were floating off the coast of

1307
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:59.400
<v Speaker 2>New York and waiting for the call? Maybe did they

1308
01:07:59.440 --> 01:08:04.280
<v Speaker 2>come from an Narctica? Also? Maybe I don't know, but anyway,

1309
01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:08.320
<v Speaker 2>here so uh Argenta an Chile. Under the guise of

1310
01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:11.760
<v Speaker 2>obtaining information about German shipping, raiders and U boats in

1311
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the region. A number of permanently manned bases were established

1312
01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:17.880
<v Speaker 2>to this end, each with a handful of personnel under

1313
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Operation Taburin. As much scientific data was collected during this

1314
01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:26.119
<v Speaker 2>time and after the war were continued as the Falkland

1315
01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Island Dependency Survey, which later became the British Antarctic Survey.

1316
01:08:30.680 --> 01:08:33.279
<v Speaker 2>So fair enough, and we're gonna get more into this

1317
01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:35.399
<v Speaker 2>next one here in just a minute. So I don't

1318
01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:38.119
<v Speaker 2>want to jump too far into Operation High Jump just

1319
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:42.640
<v Speaker 2>yet anyway, So yeah, yeah, we're gonna get to the

1320
01:08:42.680 --> 01:08:44.600
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get to a video in just a second

1321
01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:47.880
<v Speaker 2>about this now. Now, here's where there are some contortions

1322
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:51.239
<v Speaker 2>of the truth and inverted narratives. As we have seen above.

1323
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:53.920
<v Speaker 2>The evidence free stories about a Nazi base and Antarctica

1324
01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:56.720
<v Speaker 2>began within a week of a submarine turning up somewhere

1325
01:08:56.760 --> 01:09:00.000
<v Speaker 2>unexpected shortly after the Nazi surrender in nineteen forty five.

1326
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:03.600
<v Speaker 2>The items I outlined above are factual, though they have

1327
01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:06.479
<v Speaker 2>been used repeatedly as a scaffold to support all manner

1328
01:09:06.479 --> 01:09:09.920
<v Speaker 2>of fantasies that may or may not fit together. There

1329
01:09:09.960 --> 01:09:12.239
<v Speaker 2>are a number of narratives from several authors which follow

1330
01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:15.560
<v Speaker 2>similar patterns with some variations. The basic story is that

1331
01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:18.520
<v Speaker 2>German a German basin antarticle was established just before the

1332
01:09:18.600 --> 01:09:23.159
<v Speaker 2>war by Schwabenland. This was an expanded This was expanded

1333
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:27.520
<v Speaker 2>during the war, being regularly supplied by submarine deliveries. It

1334
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.760
<v Speaker 2>was used to develop sophisticated secret weapons. This base was

1335
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:33.840
<v Speaker 2>spied on by the British, who attempted unsuccessfully to destroy

1336
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:38.319
<v Speaker 2>it in sas raid in nineteen forty five. Operation High

1337
01:09:38.399 --> 01:09:41.479
<v Speaker 2>Jump was sent to attack the base, though they were

1338
01:09:41.520 --> 01:09:47.439
<v Speaker 2>repulsed by secret weapons aka flying saucers are often mentioned. Then.

1339
01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Eventually the base was destroyed by nuclear bombs in nineteen

1340
01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:53.319
<v Speaker 2>fifty eight, which we're going to talk about the nuclear

1341
01:09:53.319 --> 01:09:55.399
<v Speaker 2>bombs here in a moment. By the time of its

1342
01:09:55.399 --> 01:09:58.720
<v Speaker 2>eventual destruction, the base is often described as being populated

1343
01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:01.239
<v Speaker 2>by one hundreds or even thousand of people and defended

1344
01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:05.680
<v Speaker 2>by a range of sophisticated weaponry, including flying saucers. Of course,

1345
01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:08.359
<v Speaker 2>all these stories claim that there has been suppression of

1346
01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:11.000
<v Speaker 2>facts and evidence by the British, Americans and anyone else

1347
01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:13.359
<v Speaker 2>who you care to name. The lack of evidence is

1348
01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:18.720
<v Speaker 2>therefore presented implicitly as evidence. While lack of evidence makes

1349
01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:21.560
<v Speaker 2>something much less likely, the absence of evidence is not

1350
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:25.239
<v Speaker 2>the same as evidence of absence. That's a famous quote.

1351
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:28.439
<v Speaker 2>What follows is a short account of why claims of

1352
01:10:28.479 --> 01:10:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the secret Nazi base are not only baseless but ridiculous.

1353
01:10:32.279 --> 01:10:34.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, this guy's obviously leaning in one way of this.

1354
01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Don't get me wrong, You feel some type of way

1355
01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:40.479
<v Speaker 2>he does. He really does. But the secret Antarctic base,

1356
01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:44.760
<v Speaker 2>there's some different authors that claim different building times and

1357
01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:48.319
<v Speaker 2>locations of the supposed Nazi bas Sometimes it's described as

1358
01:10:48.319 --> 01:10:51.840
<v Speaker 2>being in a warm, ice free oasis with lakes. Sometimes

1359
01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:55.760
<v Speaker 2>pictures of other areas are misrepresented or just plain faked.

1360
01:10:56.319 --> 01:10:59.279
<v Speaker 2>While there are ice free, relatively ice free areas in

1361
01:10:59.319 --> 01:11:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica are they are not warm. The lack of ice

1362
01:11:02.319 --> 01:11:05.680
<v Speaker 2>is due to prevailing winds and snow deposition not melting.

1363
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:09.479
<v Speaker 2>He talks about time and logistics he talks about. There

1364
01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:12.239
<v Speaker 2>have been well over one thousand scientists who have visited

1365
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:15.239
<v Speaker 2>the area of New Schwabenland. Several scientific bases have been

1366
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.439
<v Speaker 2>established there since nineteen fifties. The whole area has been

1367
01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:22.119
<v Speaker 2>mapped by satellite, and considerable air traffic has crisis has

1368
01:11:22.199 --> 01:11:24.439
<v Speaker 2>crisscrossed the area. None of this has led to the

1369
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:27.800
<v Speaker 2>reporting of even the slightest evidence of a wartime Nazi base.

1370
01:11:28.079 --> 01:11:30.800
<v Speaker 2>As it was supposedly built in an ice free oasis,

1371
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:33.600
<v Speaker 2>it would not have been buried by snow Okay, So

1372
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:36.199
<v Speaker 2>basically this guy is saying there's no chance that this

1373
01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:40.880
<v Speaker 2>was a Nazi secret base. However, did these U boats

1374
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:44.159
<v Speaker 2>visit Antarctica before turning up in Argentina two months after

1375
01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:46.680
<v Speaker 2>the end of the war in Europe. Interrogator reports of

1376
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:48.760
<v Speaker 2>the crews of these two submarines show that U five

1377
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:52.479
<v Speaker 2>point thirty was off of New York when the news

1378
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:55.880
<v Speaker 2>reached of a German capitulation on the eighth of May

1379
01:11:56.159 --> 01:11:59.319
<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty five, while YOU nine to seventy seven was

1380
01:11:59.359 --> 01:12:02.079
<v Speaker 2>off the coast of Warway. U nine seven seven put

1381
01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:05.439
<v Speaker 2>sixteen men ashore who chose to go near Bergen, and

1382
01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:07.680
<v Speaker 2>then the rest of the crew, now reduced from the

1383
01:12:07.680 --> 01:12:11.199
<v Speaker 2>normal number, made their way to German friendly Argentina. Both

1384
01:12:11.239 --> 01:12:14.279
<v Speaker 2>boats had to travel quite slowly to conserve fuel. They

1385
01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:16.640
<v Speaker 2>traveled on the surface at night and below the surface

1386
01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:19.520
<v Speaker 2>during the day to avoid capture. This slowed them down further.

1387
01:12:20.239 --> 01:12:23.000
<v Speaker 2>The time taken for them to reach Argentina is exactly

1388
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:25.880
<v Speaker 2>within the traveling time and speeds they could make during

1389
01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:29.399
<v Speaker 2>their separate journeys. Embellished claims were made that the U

1390
01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:32.319
<v Speaker 2>five point thirty had turned up in Argentina was in

1391
01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:35.159
<v Speaker 2>fact a much faster and larger boat than the quote

1392
01:12:35.239 --> 01:12:39.000
<v Speaker 2>unquote real U five point thirty as usual, without any evidence,

1393
01:12:39.079 --> 01:12:42.399
<v Speaker 2>even to the point where the supposed performance was significantly

1394
01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:46.279
<v Speaker 2>beyond any U boat in service June and July, when

1395
01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:49.479
<v Speaker 2>the submarines were claimed to be in Argentina or in Antarctica,

1396
01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:53.119
<v Speaker 2>they are in the depths of winter there. Yeah, that's true.

1397
01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:55.880
<v Speaker 2>That also blows my mind. Whenever you find out that

1398
01:12:56.039 --> 01:12:58.279
<v Speaker 2>like our seasons or flip floped depending on where on

1399
01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Earth you are, never made sense to me.

1400
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:04.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't really understand it either, like you.

1401
01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:06.039
<v Speaker 2>The narrative that we have always been told as far

1402
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:08.760
<v Speaker 2>as the north of the equator goes, is that when

1403
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:12.279
<v Speaker 2>the Sun Because we're in an elliptical rotation around the

1404
01:13:12.279 --> 01:13:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Sun and there is times within our orbit where the

1405
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:18.319
<v Speaker 2>Sun is closer to the Earth, we would call that

1406
01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:21.520
<v Speaker 2>time summer, and then when the Earth is further away

1407
01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:24.239
<v Speaker 2>from the Sun, we would call that winter. Yo, How

1408
01:13:24.279 --> 01:13:26.800
<v Speaker 2>to fuck is the south of our planet doing the

1409
01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:29.399
<v Speaker 2>opposite when the entire planet is closer to the Sun.

1410
01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:31.479
<v Speaker 2>This has never made sense to me.

1411
01:13:33.119 --> 01:13:35.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't actually know, to be honest with you, Guess what,

1412
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:38.880
<v Speaker 3>when we view the Universe episode, we are going to

1413
01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:40.800
<v Speaker 3>you know what, I'm gonna write that down. Yeah, I'm

1414
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:42.960
<v Speaker 3>gonna write that down, y'all so we can actually answer

1415
01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:43.439
<v Speaker 3>this question.

1416
01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:45.479
<v Speaker 2>The flat earthers do have an answer for that one,

1417
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:47.840
<v Speaker 2>but it also makes no sense to me. It's and

1418
01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:50.560
<v Speaker 2>for the record, the globe tarred answer doesn't make sense

1419
01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:52.600
<v Speaker 2>to me either. I'm not just taking this opportunity to

1420
01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:57.119
<v Speaker 2>shit on flat earthers, but both of them make absolutely

1421
01:13:57.119 --> 01:13:58.680
<v Speaker 2>no logical sense to me whatsoever.

1422
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:00.760
<v Speaker 3>You know what, We're going to go both. We're going

1423
01:14:00.800 --> 01:14:03.439
<v Speaker 3>to go over all theories and see if we can

1424
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:06.199
<v Speaker 3>somehow figure this out. Yeah, we might need to reach

1425
01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:08.720
<v Speaker 3>out to some smarter people on us to be honest

1426
01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:09.560
<v Speaker 3>with you, that's fine.

1427
01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:13.399
<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, So any went winter storms, twenty four hour darkness,

1428
01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:16.199
<v Speaker 2>and a formidable skirt of seasonal sea ice one to

1429
01:14:16.319 --> 01:14:19.399
<v Speaker 2>two meters thick before the continent is even reached to

1430
01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:23.159
<v Speaker 2>prevent any ships operating in the winter even today, let

1431
01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:27.560
<v Speaker 2>alone small nineteen forties submarines without any ice strengthening. Satellite

1432
01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:30.720
<v Speaker 2>data shows that this ice, the sea ice in the

1433
01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:34.279
<v Speaker 2>droning maud Land region extends from the coast by about

1434
01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:38.119
<v Speaker 2>five hundred kilometers in May and June and sixteen over

1435
01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:41.319
<v Speaker 2>sixteen hundred kilometers in July. Then there is the presence

1436
01:14:41.359 --> 01:14:45.039
<v Speaker 2>of huge icebergs, the difficulties of under ice navigation, and

1437
01:14:45.119 --> 01:14:48.680
<v Speaker 2>a two hundred and fifty kilometer crevice's strewn inland journey

1438
01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:52.840
<v Speaker 2>largely in the dark with winter temperatures to down negative

1439
01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:56.600
<v Speaker 2>fifty degrees celsius once the submarines had landed. So again,

1440
01:14:56.680 --> 01:14:59.199
<v Speaker 2>it's to say that these U boats came from Antarctica

1441
01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:01.840
<v Speaker 2>before the hid origin. I don't really see much evidence

1442
01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:04.760
<v Speaker 2>for that, but I don't think so either. But without

1443
01:15:04.800 --> 01:15:06.800
<v Speaker 2>further ado, you know what, we actually do have a

1444
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:09.399
<v Speaker 2>good little VIDIA that we're gonna play who is going

1445
01:15:09.439 --> 01:15:12.199
<v Speaker 2>to uh give us another little insight into this? And

1446
01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:16.359
<v Speaker 2>also I left it purposely back a little bit. These

1447
01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:18.279
<v Speaker 2>are the blood falls that we talked about on the

1448
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:20.560
<v Speaker 2>first part of this, and I think they're really cool.

1449
01:15:20.680 --> 01:15:28.319
<v Speaker 2>So let's check this out together. Like that's sick looking, right.

1450
01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:33.760
<v Speaker 2>That is the actual rust water that is coming out

1451
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:37.279
<v Speaker 2>of that chasm in the ice into that lake.

1452
01:15:38.159 --> 01:15:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, I totally think that, like dead people were

1453
01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:43.239
<v Speaker 3>feeling this if I was like way back in the

1454
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:45.760
<v Speaker 3>day and I just randomly stumbled upon it, like great.

1455
01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, we're all going to die, right, all right,

1456
01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:48.880
<v Speaker 2>let's keep going.

1457
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:57.439
<v Speaker 5>Interest in Antarctica and its secrets has not been recent.

1458
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:03.119
<v Speaker 5>Long before modern satellite and international treaties, the frozen continent

1459
01:16:03.279 --> 01:16:07.760
<v Speaker 5>captured the attention of explorers, scientists, and even the most

1460
01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:13.880
<v Speaker 5>controversial regimes of the twentieth century, among them was Nazi Germany.

1461
01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:17.239
<v Speaker 5>In the years leading up to the Second World War,

1462
01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:21.720
<v Speaker 5>the Antarctic Frontier became the focus of an ambitious and

1463
01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:25.720
<v Speaker 5>largely forgotten expedition that would later become the center of

1464
01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:40.640
<v Speaker 5>countless theories. In nineteen thirty eight, Adolf Hitler authorized as

1465
01:16:40.720 --> 01:16:47.880
<v Speaker 5>secret Antarctic mission. The goal on the surface was resource based. Germany,

1466
01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:51.680
<v Speaker 5>preparing for the possibility of war, was searching for ways

1467
01:16:51.720 --> 01:16:56.960
<v Speaker 5>to reduce its dependence on foreign imports. Whale oil, essential

1468
01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:01.159
<v Speaker 5>for producing margarine, soap and other fat based products, was

1469
01:17:01.199 --> 01:17:15.079
<v Speaker 5>in high demand. Until then, Germany relied heavily on Norwegian exports,

1470
01:17:16.039 --> 01:17:19.840
<v Speaker 5>but Hitler's war plan needed self sufficiency, and for that

1471
01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:33.359
<v Speaker 5>the Southern Ocean offered potential. The expedition was organized quickly.

1472
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:38.439
<v Speaker 5>On December seventeenth, nineteen thirty eight, the vessel M S

1473
01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:43.319
<v Speaker 5>Schwabenland left the port of Hamburg. On board were eighty

1474
01:17:43.359 --> 01:17:47.439
<v Speaker 5>two men, a mix of scientists, naval officers, technicians, and

1475
01:17:47.520 --> 01:17:53.720
<v Speaker 5>one Nazi Party representative. Their destination was a vast unclaimed

1476
01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:59.159
<v Speaker 5>territory in Queen Maudland, located between British and Norwegian sectors.

1477
01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:04.520
<v Speaker 5>Over the following weeks, the ship reached Antarctica's icy coastline

1478
01:18:04.960 --> 01:18:08.760
<v Speaker 5>and launched its two Dawnier Woll sea planes into the skies.

1479
01:18:17.479 --> 01:18:21.960
<v Speaker 5>The aircraft surveyed enormous stretches of land, dropping aluminum darts

1480
01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:26.760
<v Speaker 5>marked with swastikas to assert territorial claim. The Germans called

1481
01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:31.880
<v Speaker 5>this new territory Neus Schwabenland, New Swabia, naming it after

1482
01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:36.880
<v Speaker 5>the ship itself. In total, the expedition mapped over six

1483
01:18:37.039 --> 01:18:42.520
<v Speaker 5>hundred thousand square kilometers, significantly expanding the known geography of

1484
01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:46.319
<v Speaker 5>that part of the continent. Some of the photographs were

1485
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:49.479
<v Speaker 5>taken in color, a rarity at the time, and many

1486
01:18:49.560 --> 01:19:00.000
<v Speaker 5>remain valuable scientific records.

1487
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Vially.

1488
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:04.279
<v Speaker 5>The mission ended in February nineteen thirty nine, just months

1489
01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:08.359
<v Speaker 5>before the outbreak of war. The Schwabenland returned to Hamburg

1490
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:13.680
<v Speaker 5>carrying thousands of aerial photographs and geological observations. Much of

1491
01:19:13.720 --> 01:19:17.199
<v Speaker 5>the collected data, however, was either lost in the chaos

1492
01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:21.640
<v Speaker 5>of the war or remained unpublished for decades. Some documents

1493
01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:26.239
<v Speaker 5>surfaced only in the late nineteen fifties, either lost in

1494
01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:29.680
<v Speaker 5>the chaos of the war, or remained unpublished for decades.

1495
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:35.000
<v Speaker 5>Some documents surfaced only in the late nineteen fifties. The rest,

1496
01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:46.760
<v Speaker 5>according to some researchers, may have been deliberately hidden. It

1497
01:19:46.840 --> 01:19:51.119
<v Speaker 5>is here that the mystery begins. For years, the nineteen

1498
01:19:51.239 --> 01:19:54.560
<v Speaker 5>thirty eight to thirty nine expedition was remembered as a

1499
01:19:54.600 --> 01:20:00.800
<v Speaker 5>short scientific mission with limited geopolitical consequences. After the war,

1500
01:20:01.159 --> 01:20:05.159
<v Speaker 5>whispers began to grow. Questions were raised about what the

1501
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:10.439
<v Speaker 5>Nazis truly hoped to find or build in Antarctica. In

1502
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:13.319
<v Speaker 5>the shadow of global conflict and in the wake of

1503
01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:26.680
<v Speaker 5>the Holocaust, a new narrative began to emerge. Some believed

1504
01:20:26.680 --> 01:20:31.800
<v Speaker 5>that Germany's interest in Antarctica went beyond whale oil and maps.

1505
01:20:32.279 --> 01:20:35.439
<v Speaker 5>According to post war rumors, the real purpose of the

1506
01:20:35.479 --> 01:20:39.399
<v Speaker 5>expedition was to establish a permanent foothold on the continent,

1507
01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:43.079
<v Speaker 5>a hidden base far from the reach of enemy nations.

1508
01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:48.439
<v Speaker 5>This alleged installation, buried deep beneath the ice, would serve

1509
01:20:48.479 --> 01:20:52.479
<v Speaker 5>as a safe haven, research facility, or even a last

1510
01:20:52.520 --> 01:20:55.479
<v Speaker 5>redoubt for the Nazi elite in the event of defeat

1511
01:20:55.520 --> 01:21:08.279
<v Speaker 5>in Europe. The idea of secret Nazi bases beneath Antarctica

1512
01:21:08.319 --> 01:21:12.640
<v Speaker 5>may sound improbable, yet a few events fed these suspicions.

1513
01:21:13.680 --> 01:21:17.479
<v Speaker 5>In July nineteen forty five, just two months after Germany's surrender,

1514
01:21:18.199 --> 01:21:22.960
<v Speaker 5>the German submarine U five point thirty appeared unexpectedly at

1515
01:21:22.960 --> 01:21:27.199
<v Speaker 5>the Argentine naval base of Mar del Plata. The next month,

1516
01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:34.279
<v Speaker 5>another submarine U nine seven seven arrived under similar mysterious circumstances.

1517
01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:46.000
<v Speaker 5>The commanders gave no satisfactory explanation for their long journeys

1518
01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:48.760
<v Speaker 5>or what they had been doing in the South Atlantic.

1519
01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:53.760
<v Speaker 5>Some believed they had delivered high ranking Nazis or valuable

1520
01:21:53.800 --> 01:22:05.359
<v Speaker 5>cargo to a hidden outpost before surrendering. To this day,

1521
01:22:05.880 --> 01:22:09.439
<v Speaker 5>no physical evidence of a Nazi base in Antarctica has

1522
01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:15.119
<v Speaker 5>ever been found, no tunnels, no abandoned structures, no hidden

1523
01:22:15.199 --> 01:22:20.600
<v Speaker 5>chambers carved into the bedrock. But parts of Norschwabenland, especially

1524
01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:25.039
<v Speaker 5>the Shechrmacher Oasis first spotted by the Germans, remain active

1525
01:22:25.119 --> 01:22:31.800
<v Speaker 5>scientific zones. The region now hosts international research stations, including

1526
01:22:31.840 --> 01:22:33.239
<v Speaker 5>those of Russia and India.

1527
01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so although the oasis in question wasn't this hotspot

1528
01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:46.199
<v Speaker 2>in New Schwabenland, it was at least an area that

1529
01:22:46.479 --> 01:22:49.560
<v Speaker 2>was not completely covered by ice. We're looking at pictures

1530
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:51.399
<v Speaker 2>of it now. There is a lot of rock, but

1531
01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:54.359
<v Speaker 2>again that could be just from high winds blowing that,

1532
01:22:54.520 --> 01:22:58.000
<v Speaker 2>and I can understand that for sure. But all that

1533
01:22:58.119 --> 01:23:02.319
<v Speaker 2>to say, they there's a lot of claims that can

1534
01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:05.119
<v Speaker 2>be made and inferred based off of that.

1535
01:23:06.039 --> 01:23:08.199
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was interesting how much data that just

1536
01:23:08.279 --> 01:23:11.720
<v Speaker 3>disappeared and that the only was some was published in

1537
01:23:11.800 --> 01:23:14.760
<v Speaker 3>nineteen fifties. The rest of it, they just don't know

1538
01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:16.680
<v Speaker 3>what happened to it, where did it go, because you

1539
01:23:16.720 --> 01:23:21.199
<v Speaker 3>don't send any kind of team anywhere without taking an

1540
01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:24.960
<v Speaker 3>obscene amount of data, right, So for them to just

1541
01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:27.880
<v Speaker 3>be like, m here's a little bit of data that

1542
01:23:27.920 --> 01:23:29.239
<v Speaker 3>doesn't make any sense to me.

1543
01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Not to the level that this went down, for sure.

1544
01:23:32.760 --> 01:23:35.159
<v Speaker 3>I know. I do agree with though, saying that there

1545
01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:38.720
<v Speaker 3>might be a hidden place where they dropped off people

1546
01:23:39.119 --> 01:23:42.399
<v Speaker 3>before they decided to turn themselves in, which I think

1547
01:23:42.479 --> 01:23:44.800
<v Speaker 3>is also kind of weird, Like I mean, I guess

1548
01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:46.760
<v Speaker 3>because at the time you can't just show up with

1549
01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:48.720
<v Speaker 3>somebody with the U boat and be like, hey.

1550
01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Why again. Argentinia, Argentina, argent Argentina and Chile were both

1551
01:23:56.319 --> 01:24:00.000
<v Speaker 2>friendly with the Nazis, and so it's also very possible

1552
01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:01.720
<v Speaker 2>that when these U boats showed up, they got the

1553
01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:07.319
<v Speaker 2>VIPs off and then the sailors were arrested and interrogated

1554
01:24:07.319 --> 01:24:10.439
<v Speaker 2>and all that. There's all kinds of eyewitness reports of

1555
01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:12.600
<v Speaker 2>who they saw get off of the boat.

1556
01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Hill it was there, I know.

1557
01:24:14.119 --> 01:24:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I personally believe so, yes. But now let's shift over

1558
01:24:17.960 --> 01:24:21.960
<v Speaker 2>to operations High Jump and wind Mill, because this is

1559
01:24:21.960 --> 01:24:25.920
<v Speaker 2>where the story gets kind of weird. Okay, okay, So

1560
01:24:27.079 --> 01:24:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Operation high Jump nineteen forty six to nineteen forty seven,

1561
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:33.560
<v Speaker 2>in Operation Windmill from nineteen forty seven nineteen forty eight,

1562
01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:36.840
<v Speaker 2>in the Antarctic summer seasons, where the United States Navy's

1563
01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:39.760
<v Speaker 2>operations with High Jump being the largest ever group to

1564
01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:42.720
<v Speaker 2>go to Antarctica consisting of and this is why it's

1565
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:47.159
<v Speaker 2>so strange. Four thy seven hundred men, thirteen ships, and

1566
01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:48.399
<v Speaker 2>thirty three aircraft.

1567
01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:53.359
<v Speaker 3>That's so many people, that's so much stuff.

1568
01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:58.279
<v Speaker 2>That's a massive group to send to Antarctica for exploration purposes.

1569
01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:01.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's also why the narrative is a little

1570
01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:05.479
<v Speaker 2>weird here. So aside from the whole Nazi conversation, why

1571
01:25:05.479 --> 01:25:08.159
<v Speaker 2>would America sen that many people? And of course this

1572
01:25:08.199 --> 01:25:12.239
<v Speaker 2>is where Admiral Bird gets his mention who he flew

1573
01:25:12.279 --> 01:25:14.359
<v Speaker 2>over to the South Pole. He also got the Medal

1574
01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:17.439
<v Speaker 2>of Honor for flying over the North Pole. Should mention that,

1575
01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:19.680
<v Speaker 2>so he is a Medal of Honor recipient. I looked

1576
01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:21.560
<v Speaker 2>up his citation. It wasn't for valor.

1577
01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:27.279
<v Speaker 3>That's a battle that's definitely a planned out, strategic move.

1578
01:25:28.119 --> 01:25:29.920
<v Speaker 3>You don't need that many people unless you're trying to

1579
01:25:29.960 --> 01:25:30.800
<v Speaker 3>take something over.

1580
01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:34.720
<v Speaker 2>This is why the narrative about a potential Nazi base

1581
01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:37.800
<v Speaker 2>is very strange. Now, did they show up with this

1582
01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:40.000
<v Speaker 2>many men because they had heard rumors of a Nazi

1583
01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:42.239
<v Speaker 2>base and so they didn't exactly know what to expect,

1584
01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:44.199
<v Speaker 2>So they were coming out just in case there was

1585
01:25:44.199 --> 01:25:47.640
<v Speaker 2>some wild shit, or did they know exactly what they

1586
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:50.239
<v Speaker 2>were coming up on and they were coming prepared.

1587
01:25:50.439 --> 01:25:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Or there's reptiles and that felin there.

1588
01:25:53.159 --> 01:25:55.359
<v Speaker 2>There could be also that case, right, So.

1589
01:25:55.439 --> 01:25:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Like they maybe just had a whole showdown to establish

1590
01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:01.399
<v Speaker 3>their own there, which is.

1591
01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Where the nuclear bombs that were detonated come into play

1592
01:26:04.039 --> 01:26:07.439
<v Speaker 2>here that we're going to talk about next. Let's talk

1593
01:26:07.439 --> 01:26:10.800
<v Speaker 2>about Operation High Jump and Wilma Windmill first though. All right,

1594
01:26:10.840 --> 01:26:14.920
<v Speaker 2>So High Jump this is when the mass uh deployment

1595
01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:19.279
<v Speaker 2>of troops, ships, and aircraft was done. The main purpose

1596
01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:23.159
<v Speaker 2>was to prepare for and practice techniques for cold weather

1597
01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:27.640
<v Speaker 2>warfare in polar conditions while being diplomatically far away from

1598
01:26:27.680 --> 01:26:32.159
<v Speaker 2>the Arctic and Russia, right right. It was primarily a

1599
01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:35.840
<v Speaker 2>military exercise, with a number of other important objectives such

1600
01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:40.119
<v Speaker 2>as establishing a research station, investigating further potential base sites,

1601
01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:43.960
<v Speaker 2>extending the sovereignty of the United States to an extensive

1602
01:26:44.119 --> 01:26:50.279
<v Speaker 2>region of the continent, and surveying the electromagnetic, geological, and hydrographical,

1603
01:26:50.720 --> 01:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>and other scientifically important aspects of the physical environment.

1604
01:26:54.439 --> 01:26:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Nobody believes this.

1605
01:26:55.640 --> 01:26:56.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Like.

1606
01:26:56.399 --> 01:26:58.840
<v Speaker 3>This, no one, the government is not going to waste

1607
01:26:58.880 --> 01:27:03.279
<v Speaker 3>their resources and that much money right on just some

1608
01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:07.960
<v Speaker 3>random ass bullshit a probe. No, that is that they

1609
01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:09.279
<v Speaker 3>went there for a reason.

1610
01:27:09.439 --> 01:27:12.640
<v Speaker 2>This was in nineteen forty seven. Keep in mind Roswell

1611
01:27:13.079 --> 01:27:16.159
<v Speaker 2>happened in nineteen forty seven, the alien crash that took

1612
01:27:16.159 --> 01:27:18.359
<v Speaker 2>place in Nevada or Exto.

1613
01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:20.720
<v Speaker 3>So we had an all out. But that's the thing though,

1614
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:25.199
<v Speaker 3>you're talking forty seven hundred people that you what mine wiped?

1615
01:27:26.279 --> 01:27:28.079
<v Speaker 3>Like nope, Like how did.

1616
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:30.880
<v Speaker 2>You get metals the Arctic expedition metal?

1617
01:27:31.039 --> 01:27:34.479
<v Speaker 3>I know, but not one person out of that group.

1618
01:27:34.479 --> 01:27:37.439
<v Speaker 3>There's always one. There's always one. You're telling me forty

1619
01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:39.880
<v Speaker 3>seven hundred people. Not one person was like, Hey, by

1620
01:27:39.920 --> 01:27:43.680
<v Speaker 3>the way, this is what we did right and nothing

1621
01:27:43.680 --> 01:27:48.119
<v Speaker 3>has come for what good old men? Black could be

1622
01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:49.000
<v Speaker 3>the reason? Why?

1623
01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:50.279
<v Speaker 2>Could be?

1624
01:27:50.279 --> 01:27:53.359
<v Speaker 3>Because mind wiping is definite thing.

1625
01:27:53.760 --> 01:27:56.119
<v Speaker 2>So now let's talk about Operation Windmill. It was a

1626
01:27:56.199 --> 01:28:00.439
<v Speaker 2>follow up, much smaller exercise the following year, and important

1627
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:03.439
<v Speaker 2>part of which was to obtain ground references for these

1628
01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:06.800
<v Speaker 2>seventy thousand aerial photographs taken during high jump in the

1629
01:28:06.840 --> 01:28:10.960
<v Speaker 2>previous year. Helicopters were used extensively, hence the name Windmill

1630
01:28:11.319 --> 01:28:14.319
<v Speaker 2>being given to the operation. All we have heard about

1631
01:28:14.359 --> 01:28:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica is how there's basically hurricane force wins at all times.

1632
01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:21.159
<v Speaker 2>How did helicopters, I mean, I don't know if it's

1633
01:28:21.279 --> 01:28:23.920
<v Speaker 2>year round. That's what we have been led to believe,

1634
01:28:24.119 --> 01:28:26.600
<v Speaker 2>is that the conditions are pretty much just shit all

1635
01:28:26.720 --> 01:28:30.680
<v Speaker 2>year round. Yeah, So how were helicopters primarily used to

1636
01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:33.760
<v Speaker 2>take all these photographs and do more research into them?

1637
01:28:33.800 --> 01:28:36.279
<v Speaker 3>When they said that they didn't have hardly any information

1638
01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:41.119
<v Speaker 3>on Antarctica until recently, like I e, the last ten years.

1639
01:28:41.319 --> 01:28:43.279
<v Speaker 3>I will say, though, really quick to the mind wipe thing.

1640
01:28:43.439 --> 01:28:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Aria and a Grande just mentioned on an interview that

1641
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:49.199
<v Speaker 3>she got real like pretty much that she got her

1642
01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:50.079
<v Speaker 3>memories erased.

1643
01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Yo, somebody needs to get Aria on a Grande a sandwich.

1644
01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:57.000
<v Speaker 3>That's beside the point. Yeah, but I'm just saying she

1645
01:28:57.079 --> 01:29:00.359
<v Speaker 3>actually said it. Like out loud that her memory. She's like, yeah,

1646
01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:02.600
<v Speaker 3>I went to this place that like erases my memories

1647
01:29:02.640 --> 01:29:04.319
<v Speaker 3>and like I don't have them. So I don't really

1648
01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:05.239
<v Speaker 3>know what you're talking about.

1649
01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't. So I'm not trying to sound like a

1650
01:29:08.640 --> 01:29:12.520
<v Speaker 2>dick here, I'm not. I don't think it would have

1651
01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>been very difficult to wipe I don't think it's hard

1652
01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:18.159
<v Speaker 2>to wipe certain minds.

1653
01:29:18.359 --> 01:29:20.920
<v Speaker 3>I will just say that though, if there's no way

1654
01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:25.359
<v Speaker 3>forty seven hundred people, not one didn't say something that

1655
01:29:25.520 --> 01:29:29.640
<v Speaker 3>one whistleblower, I wonder if you could with I wonder

1656
01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:33.560
<v Speaker 3>if you could actually try to access the records of

1657
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:34.439
<v Speaker 3>them going there.

1658
01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh by this point, yeah, you could do classify anything

1659
01:29:38.520 --> 01:29:40.359
<v Speaker 2>after fifty years, allegedly.

1660
01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Allegedly. So I'm wondering. I know there's somebody out there

1661
01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:46.960
<v Speaker 3>that's listening to us CUOLTE members that will have the

1662
01:29:47.039 --> 01:29:49.840
<v Speaker 3>time to do this. If you do this, please email

1663
01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:50.960
<v Speaker 3>us or send it to us.

1664
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:54.439
<v Speaker 2>But then we have this next conversational piece that I

1665
01:29:54.479 --> 01:29:58.479
<v Speaker 2>think is interesting, the nuclear nuclear explosions. So keep in

1666
01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:02.319
<v Speaker 2>mind Operation Windmill took in nineteen forty eight, right or

1667
01:30:02.359 --> 01:30:06.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, this was high Jump was forty six to

1668
01:30:06.039 --> 01:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>forty seven. Wind Mill was from forty seven to forty eight.

1669
01:30:09.119 --> 01:30:13.479
<v Speaker 2>All right, so in August and September of nineteen fifty eight,

1670
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:18.279
<v Speaker 2>that's a decade after Windmill was wrapped up, three nuclear

1671
01:30:18.359 --> 01:30:20.960
<v Speaker 2>explosions were detonated by the United States as part of

1672
01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Operation Argus over the South Atlantic between thirty eight point

1673
01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:29.760
<v Speaker 2>five degrees and forty nine point five degrees south between

1674
01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:33.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty two eighty and thirty five hundred kilometers north of

1675
01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica to the south west of South Africa. Okay, very

1676
01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:42.760
<v Speaker 2>interesting because real quick, the southwest of South Africa. This

1677
01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:46.920
<v Speaker 2>image of New Swabin Land. I'm wondering if that's, you know,

1678
01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:49.279
<v Speaker 2>more towards the side of South Africa.

1679
01:30:50.079 --> 01:30:52.039
<v Speaker 3>We're going to have to put in the coordinates honestly

1680
01:30:52.119 --> 01:30:52.720
<v Speaker 3>to see.

1681
01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Look that up. Look up, look up at the southernmost

1682
01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:58.159
<v Speaker 2>tip of South Africa on a map.

1683
01:30:58.239 --> 01:30:59.520
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if it's on a lay line.

1684
01:31:00.840 --> 01:31:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Well they did just give the coordinates for that. But

1685
01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:04.560
<v Speaker 2>let's see this is.

1686
01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so give me the coordination.

1687
01:31:06.039 --> 01:31:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh hold on New schwabin Land. I'm trying to see

1688
01:31:08.840 --> 01:31:14.760
<v Speaker 2>this is I can't even read that Hong Hodson whatever. Basically,

1689
01:31:14.840 --> 01:31:18.119
<v Speaker 2>just look up, uh South Africa, and look at which

1690
01:31:18.159 --> 01:31:22.319
<v Speaker 2>section is closer to Antarctica, because I'm very curious if

1691
01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>that is tying into that. But anyway, anyway, so now

1692
01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:29.399
<v Speaker 2>the nuclear explosions. Uh it says thirty eight point five

1693
01:31:29.439 --> 01:31:33.239
<v Speaker 2>degrees and forty nine point five degrees south. It doesn't

1694
01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:37.840
<v Speaker 2>say any other coordinates except just south. Is that New

1695
01:31:37.840 --> 01:31:38.520
<v Speaker 2>schwabin Land.

1696
01:31:40.079 --> 01:31:42.439
<v Speaker 3>I wonder it looks like it.

1697
01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Damn okay, hey boop boop ooh okay, wait wait wait,

1698
01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:50.279
<v Speaker 2>that's that's a perfect all right, Hold hold that thought,

1699
01:31:50.279 --> 01:31:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Hold that thought. I'm sorry it is that is the area,

1700
01:31:54.359 --> 01:31:54.720
<v Speaker 2>all right.

1701
01:31:54.680 --> 01:31:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Everyone, so for you to be able to see what

1702
01:31:56.560 --> 01:32:01.279
<v Speaker 3>we're looking at there, So there is South Africa and

1703
01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:04.119
<v Speaker 3>then this down here is New Schwabenland.

1704
01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:07.840
<v Speaker 2>So New Schwabinland is, in fact the coastal region of

1705
01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica as closest to South Africa. And they are saying

1706
01:32:12.159 --> 01:32:17.000
<v Speaker 2>that these nuclear explosions took place somewhere between twenty two

1707
01:32:17.119 --> 01:32:21.159
<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty five hundred kilometers north of Antarctica to

1708
01:32:21.279 --> 01:32:27.399
<v Speaker 2>the southwest of South Africa. Okay, these were high altitude bursts,

1709
01:32:27.439 --> 01:32:30.159
<v Speaker 2>and as as might be expected at the time of

1710
01:32:30.199 --> 01:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>the height of the Cold War were shrouded in secrecy,

1711
01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:37.239
<v Speaker 2>though they were reported soon afterwards in nineteen sixty one.

1712
01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:39.479
<v Speaker 2>So now I'm going to skip on down here to

1713
01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:43.800
<v Speaker 2>the atom bombs. The invented narrative quote unquote invented narrative,

1714
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>we're on a conspiracy show, brother, give us some break

1715
01:32:45.880 --> 01:32:48.920
<v Speaker 2>here says that nineteen fifty eight, three nuclear bombs were

1716
01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:51.840
<v Speaker 2>used to destroy the Nazi base on the droning maud Land.

1717
01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:55.960
<v Speaker 2>The reality is that they were high altitude test explosions

1718
01:32:55.960 --> 01:32:59.239
<v Speaker 2>for a particular purpose of potentially interfering with radar, radio,

1719
01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:02.600
<v Speaker 2>and electronic of satellites and missiles. They were exploded between

1720
01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:06.079
<v Speaker 2>twenty two eighty and thirty five hundred kilometers north of Antarctica.

1721
01:33:06.439 --> 01:33:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica is a much studied environment, in part because it's clean,

1722
01:33:10.600 --> 01:33:14.600
<v Speaker 2>with virtually no pollution. That's interesting that they say that,

1723
01:33:14.640 --> 01:33:18.119
<v Speaker 2>when earlier they said that the sea surrounding Antarctica accumulates

1724
01:33:18.119 --> 01:33:20.880
<v Speaker 2>fifteen percent of all carbon on Earth. So it's very

1725
01:33:20.880 --> 01:33:23.039
<v Speaker 2>interesting that that's the narrative that this person's going with.

1726
01:33:23.079 --> 01:33:28.199
<v Speaker 2>But okay, it continues. Ice cores taken show peaks of

1727
01:33:28.319 --> 01:33:32.800
<v Speaker 2>radioactive fallout from nineteen fifties and sixties nuclear tests thousands

1728
01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:36.199
<v Speaker 2>of kilometers away in a chronological order as they are

1729
01:33:36.239 --> 01:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>trapped within seasonal snowfall and accumulation, and so recorded nuclear

1730
01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:44.079
<v Speaker 2>explosions directly over droning Maudland in nineteen fifty eight would

1731
01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:48.479
<v Speaker 2>show dramatic peaks of radioisotopes if they happened. No such

1732
01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:50.800
<v Speaker 2>evidence has ever been found in any of the ice

1733
01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:53.960
<v Speaker 2>cores taken in nineteen fifty eight was part of the

1734
01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:58.119
<v Speaker 2>International Geophysical Year when there was a great international cooperation

1735
01:33:58.239 --> 01:34:01.159
<v Speaker 2>to study the polar regions, including the establishment of many

1736
01:34:01.239 --> 01:34:05.039
<v Speaker 2>temporary and permanent scientific bases. At this time there were Belgium, British,

1737
01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Japanese and Norwegian scientists living on newly established bases in

1738
01:34:08.640 --> 01:34:12.439
<v Speaker 2>the area. Nuclear explosions would have been noticed and reported.

1739
01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:15.600
<v Speaker 2>So wait a minute, you're telling me that this was

1740
01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:20.119
<v Speaker 2>a time of great international cooperation to study these things.

1741
01:34:20.680 --> 01:34:24.359
<v Speaker 2>And of the groups that you just mentioned Belgium, Britain,

1742
01:34:24.640 --> 01:34:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Japan and Norway, three of those four were on the

1743
01:34:28.920 --> 01:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Allied side of the war, and Japan, especially after all

1744
01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:36.119
<v Speaker 2>of their war crimes were discovered and kind of brushed over,

1745
01:34:36.479 --> 01:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>they were very in line with keeping with whatever their

1746
01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:42.760
<v Speaker 2>daddy said. So AKA the United States, So you know.

1747
01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:46.560
<v Speaker 3>And just they've never had any record of it being

1748
01:34:46.640 --> 01:34:52.800
<v Speaker 3>trapped allegedly. Allegedly, Okay, if it hit something, maybe maybe

1749
01:34:52.840 --> 01:34:53.600
<v Speaker 3>there was a big hole.

1750
01:34:53.840 --> 01:34:55.720
<v Speaker 2>They were just saying that it was air burst nukes

1751
01:34:55.720 --> 01:34:57.520
<v Speaker 2>though they weren't. They aren't going to hit anything on

1752
01:34:57.560 --> 01:35:01.399
<v Speaker 2>the ground. That'd be crazy. So now let's learn more

1753
01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:08.479
<v Speaker 2>about Operation High Jump together. Good call members.

1754
01:35:09.960 --> 01:35:14.000
<v Speaker 5>The story deepened with Operation High Jump. In nineteen forty

1755
01:35:14.039 --> 01:35:17.640
<v Speaker 5>six and nineteen forty seven, the United States launched the

1756
01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:23.640
<v Speaker 5>largest Antarctic military expedition in history. Led by Admiral Richard E. Byrd,

1757
01:35:24.239 --> 01:35:28.439
<v Speaker 5>it involved over four thy seven hundred men, thirteen ships,

1758
01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:33.760
<v Speaker 5>and dozens of aircraft. Officially, it was a scientific mission

1759
01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:37.880
<v Speaker 5>aimed at training and mapping, but the scale and urgency

1760
01:35:37.920 --> 01:35:42.279
<v Speaker 5>of the operation sparked speculation that the US Navy was

1761
01:35:42.359 --> 01:35:47.279
<v Speaker 5>responding to more than just geography. Some theorists suggest that

1762
01:35:47.359 --> 01:35:51.680
<v Speaker 5>Bird's fleet was sent to investigate or eliminate a Nazi

1763
01:35:51.720 --> 01:36:04.079
<v Speaker 5>presence still active on the continent from the outset. Operation

1764
01:36:04.239 --> 01:36:09.359
<v Speaker 5>High Jump was unlike any Antarctic expedition before. It organized

1765
01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:12.199
<v Speaker 5>in a time of uneasy peace, just months after the

1766
01:36:12.279 --> 01:36:16.399
<v Speaker 5>end of World War II. It was both ambitious and unprecedented.

1767
01:36:17.319 --> 01:36:22.159
<v Speaker 5>The force was divided into three naval groups, Eastern, Western,

1768
01:36:22.239 --> 01:36:26.000
<v Speaker 5>and Central, each with its own aircraft and icebreaker support.

1769
01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:29.520
<v Speaker 5>Their goal was to map as much of the continent

1770
01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:33.880
<v Speaker 5>as possible using aerial photography, and to test military equipment

1771
01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:46.920
<v Speaker 5>under polar conditions. Rear Admiral Richard H. Cruzen commanded the

1772
01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:51.840
<v Speaker 5>task force, but it was Bird, now an experienced polar

1773
01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:56.239
<v Speaker 5>explorer and a decorated naval officer, who once again became

1774
01:36:56.319 --> 01:37:00.840
<v Speaker 5>the public face of America's presence in Antarctica. The operation

1775
01:37:01.079 --> 01:37:04.920
<v Speaker 5>established a base known as Little America four and conducted

1776
01:37:04.960 --> 01:37:09.920
<v Speaker 5>extensive aerial surveys. By the end of the expedition, more

1777
01:37:09.960 --> 01:37:13.840
<v Speaker 5>than one point five million square miles of Antarctica had

1778
01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:26.960
<v Speaker 5>been photographed and thousands of images had been collected. However,

1779
01:37:27.159 --> 01:37:30.960
<v Speaker 5>it wasn't the photography that drew global attention. It was

1780
01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:35.279
<v Speaker 5>what happened behind the scenes and what Bird may have encountered.

1781
01:37:37.880 --> 01:37:42.279
<v Speaker 5>According to the official record, Operation High Jump lasted from

1782
01:37:42.279 --> 01:37:47.600
<v Speaker 5>December nineteen forty six to March nineteen forty seven, but

1783
01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:51.319
<v Speaker 5>the mission was cut short, ending weeks earlier than scheduled.

1784
01:38:00.079 --> 01:38:03.279
<v Speaker 5>This abrupt departure gave rise to a wave of questions.

1785
01:38:03.880 --> 01:38:09.399
<v Speaker 5>Reports of damaged aircraft, unexplained losses, and unusual encounters fueled

1786
01:38:09.479 --> 01:38:14.600
<v Speaker 5>rumours that something had gone wrong, or perhaps something had

1787
01:38:14.640 --> 01:38:27.119
<v Speaker 5>been found. Among the more persistent theories is that the

1788
01:38:27.159 --> 01:38:31.039
<v Speaker 5>mission had a hidden agenda to locate a rumoured underground

1789
01:38:31.119 --> 01:38:34.640
<v Speaker 5>Nazi base near the Queen Maude Land region, the same

1790
01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:39.600
<v Speaker 5>territory explored by the German New Swabia expedition. Proponents of

1791
01:38:39.640 --> 01:38:42.479
<v Speaker 5>this theory point to the high number of military personnel

1792
01:38:42.520 --> 01:38:47.479
<v Speaker 5>involved and the presence of advanced technology, including aircraft capable

1793
01:38:47.520 --> 01:38:52.840
<v Speaker 5>of long range reconnaissance. They also reference unexplained air crashes,

1794
01:38:53.479 --> 01:38:57.520
<v Speaker 5>including the fatal loss of the Martin PBM five flying

1795
01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:01.439
<v Speaker 5>boat George I, which claimed the lives of three crewmen.

1796
01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:13.760
<v Speaker 5>In the years following Operation High Jump, rumors began to

1797
01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:18.800
<v Speaker 5>circulate that Bird had encountered something extraordinary during one of

1798
01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:20.039
<v Speaker 5>his reconnaissance flights.

1799
01:39:21.399 --> 01:39:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Now we are about to get into the conversation of

1800
01:39:24.760 --> 01:39:30.720
<v Speaker 2>possibly so possibly hollow earth. M let's go.

1801
01:39:30.960 --> 01:39:34.119
<v Speaker 3>I was just thinking, though, really quickly, about the plane

1802
01:39:34.159 --> 01:39:36.560
<v Speaker 3>crashes and about how we're going to talk about the

1803
01:39:36.680 --> 01:39:39.399
<v Speaker 3>radio frequencies that they're thinking about, And I was like,

1804
01:39:39.439 --> 01:39:42.439
<v Speaker 3>what if they had an electro pulse and knocked out

1805
01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:48.239
<v Speaker 3>the navigation and that's how they crashed. It's very possible,

1806
01:39:48.359 --> 01:39:51.439
<v Speaker 3>considering they have all sorts of magnetic fields and everything

1807
01:39:51.439 --> 01:39:54.359
<v Speaker 3>else that they've talked about there. What if there was

1808
01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:57.560
<v Speaker 3>there's something else there that knocked out the navigation and

1809
01:39:57.560 --> 01:39:58.880
<v Speaker 3>it crashed the planes.

1810
01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:00.399
<v Speaker 2>Something like to berming you to triangle or like that.

1811
01:40:00.479 --> 01:40:03.960
<v Speaker 2>M hmmm hm. All right, now this is where things

1812
01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:06.720
<v Speaker 2>go a little sideways. Some people will say this is

1813
01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:10.880
<v Speaker 2>completely fake. Some people will say it's absolutely verified because

1814
01:40:10.920 --> 01:40:15.479
<v Speaker 2>of his diary. Now was his diary legitimate or was

1815
01:40:15.520 --> 01:40:18.119
<v Speaker 2>it a forgery? Depends on the literature you read, to

1816
01:40:18.119 --> 01:40:20.760
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, but let's hear about this incredible

1817
01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:21.640
<v Speaker 2>discovery together.

1818
01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:26.840
<v Speaker 5>According to certain accounts, his aircraft entered an area that

1819
01:40:26.920 --> 01:40:30.479
<v Speaker 5>should not have existed, a temperate zone amid the ice,

1820
01:40:31.159 --> 01:40:44.479
<v Speaker 5>a landscape of green valleys and warm air. Some sources

1821
01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:48.319
<v Speaker 5>claim he saw not just a change in climate, but

1822
01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:53.600
<v Speaker 5>in reality itself, unknown flying objects in the sky, and

1823
01:40:53.760 --> 01:41:00.399
<v Speaker 5>even contact with beings from an advanced subterranean civilization from

1824
01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:11.000
<v Speaker 5>an advanced subterranean civilization. These accounts were not part of

1825
01:41:11.039 --> 01:41:15.079
<v Speaker 5>any official report, but in the nineteen sixties, a document

1826
01:41:15.119 --> 01:41:19.920
<v Speaker 5>began to circulate, allegedly a secret diary kept by Admiral

1827
01:41:19.920 --> 01:41:24.880
<v Speaker 5>Bird during the expedition. In it, Bird describes an encounter

1828
01:41:24.920 --> 01:41:28.239
<v Speaker 5>with an aircraft unlike any he had seen before. His

1829
01:41:28.359 --> 01:41:32.479
<v Speaker 5>instruments fail, his radio is taken over. He is guided

1830
01:41:32.560 --> 01:41:36.439
<v Speaker 5>to a landing strip in a hidden valley. There, he claims,

1831
01:41:36.800 --> 01:41:40.079
<v Speaker 5>he is welcomed by tall beings with luminous eyes and

1832
01:41:40.199 --> 01:41:43.680
<v Speaker 5>advanced knowledge. They take him to a city beneath the

1833
01:41:43.720 --> 01:41:57.239
<v Speaker 5>Earth's surface, a place they call a Gartha. Agatha is

1834
01:41:57.279 --> 01:42:00.640
<v Speaker 5>a mythical kingdom said to exist within the Earth itself,

1835
01:42:01.239 --> 01:42:05.319
<v Speaker 5>a concept tied closely to the hollow Earth theory. According

1836
01:42:05.359 --> 01:42:08.720
<v Speaker 5>to these beliefs, our planet is not a solid sphere,

1837
01:42:09.159 --> 01:42:13.520
<v Speaker 5>but a layered shell containing vast inner spaces, cities, and

1838
01:42:13.640 --> 01:42:26.920
<v Speaker 5>even oceans. A Gatha, the largest of these subterranean realms,

1839
01:42:27.239 --> 01:42:30.680
<v Speaker 5>is described as a civilization more ancient and advanced than

1840
01:42:30.720 --> 01:42:35.159
<v Speaker 5>our own. The people of Agatha, sometimes called the Old Ones,

1841
01:42:35.680 --> 01:42:38.439
<v Speaker 5>are said to possess technology far beyond what is known

1842
01:42:38.479 --> 01:42:42.520
<v Speaker 5>on the surface, including vehicles that can fly without fuel

1843
01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:55.359
<v Speaker 5>and the ability to manipulate natural forces. This idea has

1844
01:42:55.399 --> 01:43:00.279
<v Speaker 5>appeared in stories and myths across many cultures, from Shamba

1845
01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:04.039
<v Speaker 5>in Tibetan tradition to the underworld cities of the Mayans

1846
01:43:04.079 --> 01:43:08.359
<v Speaker 5>and Celts, there is a recurring motif of hidden civilizations

1847
01:43:08.399 --> 01:43:13.159
<v Speaker 5>beneath the earth. In the case of Agatha, the story

1848
01:43:13.239 --> 01:43:17.399
<v Speaker 5>gained traction in the nineteenth century, with French and German

1849
01:43:17.520 --> 01:43:21.239
<v Speaker 5>occult writers spreading the tale of a lost inner world,

1850
01:43:22.119 --> 01:43:25.199
<v Speaker 5>but it was the supposed connection with Admiral Bird that

1851
01:43:25.359 --> 01:43:28.560
<v Speaker 5>brought it into the modern age and the realm of Antarctica.

1852
01:43:37.039 --> 01:43:40.800
<v Speaker 5>According to the diary, the Agathians warned Bird about the

1853
01:43:40.840 --> 01:43:44.960
<v Speaker 5>growing danger of nuclear weapons and the direction of human society.

1854
01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:50.239
<v Speaker 5>They claimed to have observed surface civilization for centuries and

1855
01:43:50.399 --> 01:43:54.760
<v Speaker 5>feared its destructive potential. Bird was told to return to

1856
01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:58.680
<v Speaker 5>his superiors with their message, a call for peace and balance,

1857
01:43:59.159 --> 01:44:02.920
<v Speaker 5>and then sent back through the ice. And yet this

1858
01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:07.079
<v Speaker 5>document has never been confirmed as authentic, even though many

1859
01:44:07.119 --> 01:44:19.039
<v Speaker 5>believe in it. Some people think the diary is fake.

1860
01:44:19.680 --> 01:44:23.079
<v Speaker 5>They say Bird never said anything like that himself, and

1861
01:44:23.119 --> 01:44:27.479
<v Speaker 5>there's no official proof that such an event happened. Still,

1862
01:44:27.920 --> 01:44:31.760
<v Speaker 5>the story lived on, helped by the secrecy around parts

1863
01:44:31.760 --> 01:44:35.079
<v Speaker 5>of Operation High Jump and some things Bird said in

1864
01:44:35.079 --> 01:44:46.680
<v Speaker 5>interviews in a rare interview published in Chile in March

1865
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<v Speaker 5>nineteen forty seven, Bird talked about how important Antarctica could

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<v Speaker 5>be in the future. He warned that one day the

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01:44:54.800 --> 01:44:58.479
<v Speaker 5>US might be attacked from over the polar regions. Some

1868
01:44:58.520 --> 01:45:00.479
<v Speaker 5>people think this was his way of he hinting at

1869
01:45:00.479 --> 01:45:11.319
<v Speaker 5>what he saw down there. As the Cold War grew stronger,

1870
01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:14.560
<v Speaker 5>the US sent more missions to Antarctica.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so real quick here, this is why so

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01:45:19.319 --> 01:45:23.920
<v Speaker 2>many people have said things about Agartha and the Hollow

1873
01:45:23.920 --> 01:45:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Earth and all this because of a diary entry from

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01:45:27.039 --> 01:45:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Admiral Bird allegedly. Okay, okay, fine, let's talk about this.

1875
01:45:33.039 --> 01:45:35.319
<v Speaker 2>There is a bit of a misnomber when it comes

1876
01:45:35.359 --> 01:45:39.119
<v Speaker 2>to the theories that were proposed by the occultists and

1877
01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:42.680
<v Speaker 2>the well, i'll just call them pseudo occultists of the

1878
01:45:42.720 --> 01:45:46.439
<v Speaker 2>nineteen fifties and sixties. So here's my point with this

1879
01:45:46.600 --> 01:45:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Agartha and what. There's this whole conversation between the Buddhists

1880
01:45:51.520 --> 01:45:54.800
<v Speaker 2>believe in Agartha, and it's backed up by Far Eastern

1881
01:45:54.840 --> 01:45:59.119
<v Speaker 2>theologies as well as Western theologies. Here's the deal. They

1882
01:45:59.199 --> 01:46:02.560
<v Speaker 2>keep trying to make the connection between Shimbala and Agartha

1883
01:46:03.479 --> 01:46:06.079
<v Speaker 2>and it's not. That's not a fair comparison here. So

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01:46:06.199 --> 01:46:09.239
<v Speaker 2>Agartha is not part of traditional Buddhist teachings in the

1885
01:46:09.319 --> 01:46:13.720
<v Speaker 2>nineteenth century. Legend from Western esotericism is that is often

1886
01:46:13.760 --> 01:46:16.920
<v Speaker 2>confused with the Buddhist concept of Shimbala. Unlike the mythical

1887
01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:21.399
<v Speaker 2>kingdom of Shambala, which has its roots in Vaharayah Buddhism,

1888
01:46:21.600 --> 01:46:26.039
<v Speaker 2>Agartha is a modern creation. So just we're all clear here,

1889
01:46:26.720 --> 01:46:30.960
<v Speaker 2>there's no ancient source at all that talks about Agartha.

1890
01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:34.239
<v Speaker 2>It was a thing that was created in the nineteen hundreds.

1891
01:46:34.319 --> 01:46:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Now that being said that ancients, no ancients from the West.

1892
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<v Speaker 2>They had their own ideas about like the underworld like

1893
01:46:40.640 --> 01:46:45.039
<v Speaker 2>for sure, and some sort of a realm existing beneath

1894
01:46:45.039 --> 01:46:48.199
<v Speaker 2>the surface of the earth, for sure. I'm not denying this.

1895
01:46:48.880 --> 01:46:52.920
<v Speaker 2>But the idea and concept of Agartha, its origins came

1896
01:46:52.960 --> 01:46:56.039
<v Speaker 2>about actually in the eighteen seventy three book by Lewis

1897
01:46:56.159 --> 01:47:00.439
<v Speaker 2>Jakolit Jacolate. I don't know his book, le Fi did

1898
01:47:00.520 --> 01:47:05.319
<v Speaker 2>do the Sons of God Jacquelit invented a lost ancient

1899
01:47:05.359 --> 01:47:09.439
<v Speaker 2>city he called Asgartha based on his interpretation of Indian

1900
01:47:09.479 --> 01:47:12.800
<v Speaker 2>myths mixed with his own creations. It's a very remnant

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01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:16.479
<v Speaker 2>of Madame Blovotsky, who so many people think is like

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01:47:16.520 --> 01:47:20.199
<v Speaker 2>the queen of Eastern esotericism. When you read her story,

1903
01:47:20.600 --> 01:47:22.920
<v Speaker 2>she didn't even go to the places she claimed she went.

1904
01:47:23.279 --> 01:47:25.720
<v Speaker 2>The person she met never existed. Her story was a

1905
01:47:25.760 --> 01:47:28.119
<v Speaker 2>complete fabrication that she used to sell books when she

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01:47:28.159 --> 01:47:32.079
<v Speaker 2>got back to Europe. But okay, continuing it, says Alexandra

1907
01:47:32.319 --> 01:47:34.520
<v Speaker 2>san yieves, I'm not going to try to pronounce that

1908
01:47:34.600 --> 01:47:38.319
<v Speaker 2>last one. Eighteen eighty six, a later occultist, saying Eves

1909
01:47:38.359 --> 01:47:42.560
<v Speaker 2>significantly expanded the legend by portraying Agartha as a subterranean

1910
01:47:42.640 --> 01:47:47.479
<v Speaker 2>utopia hidden beneath the Himalayas. So not Antarctica, the Himalayas.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>He claimed to have learned about it through astro travel

1913
01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:58.840
<v Speaker 2>shocker what, and portrayed it as hidden advanced civilization led

1914
01:47:58.880 --> 01:48:04.000
<v Speaker 2>by a king the world, Yes, because astral is something

1915
01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:06.199
<v Speaker 2>that we can really sink our teeth into.

1916
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<v Speaker 3>Here. Oh, the world would be like Kan, he would.

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<v Speaker 2>Think, right, which is why a lot of these these

1918
01:48:12.319 --> 01:48:14.119
<v Speaker 2>like the gods of the verses, King Kong, and they

1919
01:48:14.159 --> 01:48:16.079
<v Speaker 2>went through Did they go through the Himalayas to get there?

1920
01:48:18.239 --> 01:48:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know they did. They go through They go

1921
01:48:20.880 --> 01:48:23.319
<v Speaker 3>through the hollow earth pretty much right, and they got

1922
01:48:23.359 --> 01:48:25.119
<v Speaker 3>I know, they go through the I thought they went

1923
01:48:25.159 --> 01:48:27.800
<v Speaker 3>through the water. They go like under that big cave.

1924
01:48:28.279 --> 01:48:31.640
<v Speaker 3>M maybe I don't know. I don't know, I don't remember,

1925
01:48:31.680 --> 01:48:32.640
<v Speaker 3>to be honest with you.

1926
01:48:32.439 --> 01:48:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Continueing here. Ferdinand osen Dawski nineteen twenty two, a Polish

1927
01:48:37.039 --> 01:48:40.439
<v Speaker 2>explorer and writer, popularized the story in his book Beasts,

1928
01:48:40.640 --> 01:48:44.399
<v Speaker 2>Men and Gods, claiming that Buddhist Lamas he had met

1929
01:48:44.399 --> 01:48:48.000
<v Speaker 2>in Mongolia spoke of a hidden underground kingdom called Agartha.

1930
01:48:48.199 --> 01:48:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Once again, the Buddhists have never had a concept of Agartha.

1931
01:48:53.319 --> 01:48:58.760
<v Speaker 2>He's confusing it with Shimbala, which it's not exactly. It's

1932
01:48:58.800 --> 01:49:00.520
<v Speaker 2>not even close to the same thing, to be honest

1933
01:49:00.520 --> 01:49:05.399
<v Speaker 2>with you, So Shimbala itself the Buddhist view on Agartha.

1934
01:49:05.560 --> 01:49:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Since Agartha is a legend from the West occultism, it's

1935
01:49:09.399 --> 01:49:11.720
<v Speaker 2>not from a traditional Buddhist text. There is no formal

1936
01:49:11.760 --> 01:49:15.239
<v Speaker 2>Buddhist belief system surrounding it. Buddhism instead focuses on its

1937
01:49:15.279 --> 01:49:20.479
<v Speaker 2>own cosmological realms, which include the six realms of rebirth

1938
01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:23.920
<v Speaker 2>or Samsara. These are states of existence through which beings

1939
01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:26.800
<v Speaker 2>are reborn based on their karma. The six realms are

1940
01:49:26.840 --> 01:49:30.800
<v Speaker 2>those of hell beings, hungry ghosts, animals, humans, jealous gods

1941
01:49:30.880 --> 01:49:34.960
<v Speaker 2>or surahs, and gods which is devas. Again, I am

1942
01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:38.399
<v Speaker 2>not a big believer in karma, Like I understand, like

1943
01:49:38.439 --> 01:49:40.159
<v Speaker 2>if you do good shit, good shit'll happen to you.

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01:49:40.239 --> 01:49:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Like that level of karma I can get behind. But uh,

1945
01:49:43.960 --> 01:49:45.960
<v Speaker 2>when you look at it, the people that created karma,

1946
01:49:46.239 --> 01:49:51.319
<v Speaker 2>the vedix in those in India, also created the untouchables

1947
01:49:51.319 --> 01:49:54.960
<v Speaker 2>and their caste system. So basically, karma only applies whenever

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01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:56.920
<v Speaker 2>it's you. But if it's you trying to help your

1949
01:49:56.960 --> 01:50:00.680
<v Speaker 2>fellow man aka the slum lords and the un touchables,

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01:50:00.840 --> 01:50:03.359
<v Speaker 2>you treat them lower than dirt because that's how good

1951
01:50:03.479 --> 01:50:07.920
<v Speaker 2>your karma is. It even in its own conception, it's

1952
01:50:08.159 --> 01:50:13.319
<v Speaker 2>fucking stupid. And then pure lands these, I mean, yeah

1953
01:50:13.359 --> 01:50:17.319
<v Speaker 2>for sure anyway. Pure lands these are Buddha fields or

1954
01:50:17.359 --> 01:50:21.640
<v Speaker 2>celestial realms created by enlightened beings such as Shambala. In

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01:50:21.720 --> 01:50:25.560
<v Speaker 2>the Kalaka tradition. Entry into these lands is achieved through

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01:50:25.600 --> 01:50:30.800
<v Speaker 2>spiritual practice, not by finding a physical location. So again

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01:50:31.079 --> 01:50:33.840
<v Speaker 2>the Agartha conversation only came about in the nineteen or

1958
01:50:33.880 --> 01:50:37.199
<v Speaker 2>the late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds. Shambala is a

1959
01:50:37.239 --> 01:50:40.039
<v Speaker 2>spiritual place. It's not something that you can physically see.

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<v Speaker 2>So Admiral Bird flying over Antarctica and seeing this thing

1961
01:50:43.039 --> 01:50:46.760
<v Speaker 2>that they're calling this extra land, it's not it couldn't

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01:50:46.800 --> 01:50:48.720
<v Speaker 2>have been that. I'll just say like that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>his journal itself, it's fascinating. I've thumbed through it a

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01:50:54.439 --> 01:50:57.560
<v Speaker 2>time or two, not physically, of course, like online printouts

1965
01:50:57.560 --> 01:51:02.479
<v Speaker 2>of it. There's a few problems with it. For one,

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01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:08.039
<v Speaker 2>it's not his handwriting, and that's been confirmed by multiple

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01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:12.000
<v Speaker 2>people who saw his actual handwriting and saw it. Secondly,

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01:51:12.159 --> 01:51:15.840
<v Speaker 2>it only came out after his death. Yeah, and so

1969
01:51:15.880 --> 01:51:18.359
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't help anything. He wasn't there to verify these

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01:51:18.399 --> 01:51:22.079
<v Speaker 2>claims whatsoever. The interviews that he gave, which you can

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01:51:22.079 --> 01:51:23.760
<v Speaker 2>go and listen to right now, I will say the

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01:51:24.079 --> 01:51:25.880
<v Speaker 2>sound quality is not the best. This is in the

1973
01:51:25.960 --> 01:51:28.439
<v Speaker 2>nineteen forties and fifties when he was actually able to

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01:51:28.479 --> 01:51:31.279
<v Speaker 2>go and talk about these things. He was talking about

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01:51:31.319 --> 01:51:35.039
<v Speaker 2>how Antarctica is a place rich with gold, oil and uranium.

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01:51:36.399 --> 01:51:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Now how he figured that out from flying over it

1977
01:51:38.840 --> 01:51:41.920
<v Speaker 2>or whatever? Operation high jump with all of those experts

1978
01:51:41.920 --> 01:51:44.119
<v Speaker 2>and all of these soldiers whatever was able to find.

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01:51:44.640 --> 01:51:47.239
<v Speaker 2>That's very interesting to me. But he was making the

1980
01:51:47.239 --> 01:51:50.760
<v Speaker 2>case that Antarctica is rich with natural resources that one

1981
01:51:50.840 --> 01:51:53.279
<v Speaker 2>day we'll be able to get to. But he was

1982
01:51:53.319 --> 01:51:57.640
<v Speaker 2>also this whole narrative about the whole aliens or whatever's

1983
01:51:57.960 --> 01:52:00.520
<v Speaker 2>telling him that nukes were so bad and that they

1984
01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:02.920
<v Speaker 2>need to stop doing that. Cut to ten years later

1985
01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:07.439
<v Speaker 2>when they dropped three nukes on Antarctica. So obviously they

1986
01:52:07.439 --> 01:52:11.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't listen. So yeah, yeah, the whole it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say the photo that they showed had a

1988
01:52:14.399 --> 01:52:17.800
<v Speaker 3>ink blot on it that resembled the tests as they

1989
01:52:17.920 --> 01:52:20.319
<v Speaker 3>used for psychiatry.

1990
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<v Speaker 2>The rorshack test they did. If you look at the

1991
01:52:23.039 --> 01:52:23.720
<v Speaker 2>it looks.

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01:52:23.520 --> 01:52:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Just like it, and on the picture itself when they

1993
01:52:27.039 --> 01:52:29.600
<v Speaker 3>zoomed out, I was like, wait a second, I know

1994
01:52:29.680 --> 01:52:30.279
<v Speaker 3>what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The random stains on the pages looked very roar

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01:52:34.239 --> 01:52:36.319
<v Speaker 2>shacky to me as well, for sure.

1997
01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:40.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I was like, that's weird, it's possible. I mean,

1998
01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:44.319
<v Speaker 3>I do think it's interesting though that I don't know.

1999
01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:47.960
<v Speaker 3>I find it really odd that this journal would come

2000
01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:50.520
<v Speaker 3>out after his death when he couldn't verify it. If

2001
01:52:50.560 --> 01:52:52.520
<v Speaker 3>he was going to be a whistleblower while he's alive,

2002
01:52:52.880 --> 01:52:55.560
<v Speaker 3>then why not do it and speak loudly on it.

2003
01:52:56.239 --> 01:52:59.520
<v Speaker 3>If you're really that adamant about this coming out, I

2004
01:52:59.560 --> 01:53:04.159
<v Speaker 3>think it's odd timing for it to come out. I do.

2005
01:53:04.239 --> 01:53:07.039
<v Speaker 3>Still I'm really hung up on the forty seven hundred

2006
01:53:07.119 --> 01:53:09.720
<v Speaker 3>men being there. I am definitely.

2007
01:53:09.720 --> 01:53:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Thirteen ships, thirty aircraft, Yeah, thirty guys, like, yes, thirty.

2008
01:53:14.600 --> 01:53:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Three aircrafts, especially in a time where we already were

2009
01:53:17.720 --> 01:53:20.920
<v Speaker 3>having resources that were thin. And it said that he

2010
01:53:21.119 --> 01:53:24.159
<v Speaker 3>was going around talking to people, uh in the year

2011
01:53:24.279 --> 01:53:27.279
<v Speaker 3>forty seven, the same year as Roswell, And I'm like,

2012
01:53:28.439 --> 01:53:32.199
<v Speaker 3>it's just I you know, I don't believe in coincidences anymore.

2013
01:53:32.479 --> 01:53:35.439
<v Speaker 3>Like they're just too coincidental. And it's like, that's a

2014
01:53:35.479 --> 01:53:40.159
<v Speaker 3>lot of people to take there. Yeah, that's a huge push.

2015
01:53:40.279 --> 01:53:43.840
<v Speaker 3>That is invasion push. Yeah, that is not a hey,

2016
01:53:43.880 --> 01:53:46.119
<v Speaker 3>we're just gonna go there to go sightseeing. No, that's

2017
01:53:46.159 --> 01:53:49.079
<v Speaker 3>an invasion conquer push. That is we're going there.

2018
01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:51.279
<v Speaker 2>To function up exactly and take over.

2019
01:53:51.479 --> 01:53:56.800
<v Speaker 3>So whatever was there dot dot dot, Yeah, we were

2020
01:53:56.920 --> 01:53:59.399
<v Speaker 3>going there with the hopes of taking over. But then

2021
01:53:59.439 --> 01:54:02.239
<v Speaker 3>that leads to the whole thing about how most of

2022
01:54:02.279 --> 01:54:06.079
<v Speaker 3>the bases that science science stuff is out of our

2023
01:54:06.159 --> 01:54:07.359
<v Speaker 3>military basis.

2024
01:54:07.079 --> 01:54:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Still, well, military's got better funding than most other organizations.

2025
01:54:10.439 --> 01:54:13.119
<v Speaker 3>True, but if they're wanting to keep a lock on

2026
01:54:13.159 --> 01:54:17.039
<v Speaker 3>whatever's happening there, sure, my man just wagers.

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01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:20.560
<v Speaker 2>And it makes sense if they had reports of a

2028
01:54:20.680 --> 01:54:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Nazi base, and maybe they were unverified, but they could

2029
01:54:23.640 --> 01:54:26.479
<v Speaker 2>find some sort of a record in Nazi Germany through

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01:54:26.479 --> 01:54:28.680
<v Speaker 2>the Nuremberg Trials to say that there was some sort

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01:54:28.720 --> 01:54:32.000
<v Speaker 2>of a exploration that was done in Antarctica, and they

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01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:33.199
<v Speaker 2>set up New Swabenland.

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01:54:33.399 --> 01:54:36.159
<v Speaker 3>I could see two thousand, I could see taking two

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01:54:36.199 --> 01:54:40.960
<v Speaker 3>thousand as a tester to scope it out. Almost five

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01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:44.039
<v Speaker 3>thousand men. You can't convince me otherwise. That is a

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01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:45.039
<v Speaker 3>straight push.

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01:54:45.079 --> 01:54:47.520
<v Speaker 2>And that's another thing too. Project paper Clip was happening

2038
01:54:47.560 --> 01:54:50.640
<v Speaker 2>at that time when Operation high Jump went down. So

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01:54:50.680 --> 01:54:53.520
<v Speaker 2>you had all these Nazis, these expats. One of them,

2040
01:54:53.560 --> 01:54:56.039
<v Speaker 2>for instance, Warner von Braun, who was the person that

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01:54:56.479 --> 01:54:58.640
<v Speaker 2>led to the rocketeering that put a man on the

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01:54:58.640 --> 01:55:03.239
<v Speaker 2>moon allegedly. But he was a devout Nazi scientist. And

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01:55:03.279 --> 01:55:05.560
<v Speaker 2>there are those that I will say, well, he was

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01:55:05.600 --> 01:55:08.079
<v Speaker 2>just a scientist that happened to be born in Nazi Germany.

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01:55:08.119 --> 01:55:12.279
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't a actual Nazi believer. He hung the slowest

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01:55:12.399 --> 01:55:16.680
<v Speaker 2>five Jews outside of his laboratory every week. So no,

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01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:19.520
<v Speaker 2>he was a true blue, well i should say red

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01:55:19.920 --> 01:55:23.920
<v Speaker 2>believer in Nazi ideals and ideology and also became a

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01:55:23.960 --> 01:55:26.520
<v Speaker 2>really good friend to Walt Disney, who was a Jew.

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01:55:26.560 --> 01:55:28.039
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's funny in and of itself, but

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01:55:28.119 --> 01:55:28.840
<v Speaker 2>neither here nor there.

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01:55:29.359 --> 01:55:31.760
<v Speaker 3>So you could probably turn on the other Jews. He's

2053
01:55:31.800 --> 01:55:34.800
<v Speaker 3>probably the ones that turn in their Jews, their Jew friends.

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01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh Disney, Oh, I believe it absolutely.

2055
01:55:38.399 --> 01:55:41.640
<v Speaker 3>He wanted to kill people every movie.

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01:55:41.840 --> 01:55:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah Disney hates moms. Oh yeah, but Pixar they beloving moms.

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01:55:47.119 --> 01:55:51.399
<v Speaker 2>Just saying anyway, So moving into that direction here, Project

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01:55:51.399 --> 01:55:53.520
<v Speaker 2>paper Clip was going on. You had all these expat

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01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:56.119
<v Speaker 2>Nazis who are making their way to America and they

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01:55:56.119 --> 01:55:58.560
<v Speaker 2>were kind of given some secrets about some things that

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01:55:58.600 --> 01:56:02.079
<v Speaker 2>the Nazis were doing during what War two, not even

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01:56:02.279 --> 01:56:03.279
<v Speaker 2>two years.

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01:56:03.039 --> 01:56:05.000
<v Speaker 3>After they found maybe they've found a hole.

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01:56:05.199 --> 01:56:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Honestly, maybe well we're going to talk about the hole

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01:56:08.159 --> 01:56:08.479
<v Speaker 2>in a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they found a hole to the center of the Earth.

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01:56:10.680 --> 01:56:12.960
<v Speaker 3>By the way, it was a cave. I was correct.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't underneath that's where god Zilh went. It was

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<v Speaker 3>the one on Skull Island that he goes through.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is in India. Yeah, which is where the Himalayas

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01:56:21.520 --> 01:56:21.880
<v Speaker 2>are found.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, no, it does not know it said that

2073
01:56:24.760 --> 01:56:28.159
<v Speaker 3>he did not go through the Himalayans. Well, I just

2074
01:56:28.159 --> 01:56:30.079
<v Speaker 3>wanted to verify because it occurred like that and I

2075
01:56:30.119 --> 01:56:32.119
<v Speaker 3>needed to. I needed to make sure because I know

2076
01:56:32.359 --> 01:56:35.039
<v Speaker 3>that the spirit animals listening and you will message me

2077
01:56:35.079 --> 01:56:35.520
<v Speaker 3>if I got this.

2078
01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you will, absolutely so. Anyway, as far as the

2079
01:56:38.840 --> 01:56:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Admiral Bird Journal goes, and I know there's gonna be

2080
01:56:42.159 --> 01:56:44.279
<v Speaker 2>people that disagree with even my take on to say

2081
01:56:44.279 --> 01:56:48.000
<v Speaker 2>that it was a forgery, I get it, I absolutely do.

2082
01:56:48.359 --> 01:56:50.600
<v Speaker 2>I am saying that as of this moment, all evidence

2083
01:56:50.640 --> 01:56:53.239
<v Speaker 2>points me into the direction of it being a forgery.

2084
01:56:53.319 --> 01:56:56.000
<v Speaker 2>If new evidence does come out, I am more than

2085
01:56:56.039 --> 01:56:58.319
<v Speaker 2>happy to shift my viewpoint on it. But as of

2086
01:56:58.359 --> 01:57:01.199
<v Speaker 2>this moment, I'm saying that there was some crazy fuck

2087
01:57:01.279 --> 01:57:05.199
<v Speaker 2>shit going on with Operation high Jump, the journal entry

2088
01:57:05.359 --> 01:57:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and the Lost land and the Aryans. There's also reports

2089
01:57:09.000 --> 01:57:12.119
<v Speaker 2>of him being escorted in by flying craft with swastikas

2090
01:57:12.159 --> 01:57:14.479
<v Speaker 2>on them, and that's where he met the tall whites,

2091
01:57:14.560 --> 01:57:16.760
<v Speaker 2>the Aryans that the Nazis met up with that were

2092
01:57:16.760 --> 01:57:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the true Arian race, and these giants and this, and

2093
01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:22.319
<v Speaker 2>it's it goes way way deep into the realm of

2094
01:57:22.359 --> 01:57:25.840
<v Speaker 2>sci fi. The deeper you look into it, and it's like, okay, wait, pause.

2095
01:57:26.600 --> 01:57:28.800
<v Speaker 2>This is the same guy that came and give multiple

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01:57:28.840 --> 01:57:32.600
<v Speaker 2>interviews on TV about what he saw there and what

2097
01:57:32.680 --> 01:57:36.359
<v Speaker 2>he found there. Forty seven hundred dudes were all in

2098
01:57:36.399 --> 01:57:39.359
<v Speaker 2>the mix on this, and they all kept their mouths shut. Well,

2099
01:57:39.439 --> 01:57:41.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, you can never trust military. They are sworn

2100
01:57:41.800 --> 01:57:44.479
<v Speaker 2>to secretcy Listen, we were both we're both military vets.

2101
01:57:44.520 --> 01:57:47.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you now, the stories of what went down

2102
01:57:47.640 --> 01:57:49.279
<v Speaker 2>in Afghanistan have come out.

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01:57:49.439 --> 01:57:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Okay, as soon as I saw an alien, If I

2104
01:57:51.720 --> 01:57:52.520
<v Speaker 3>saw one, I'd.

2105
01:57:52.319 --> 01:57:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Be like, Arah, I'll be telling everybody.

2106
01:57:53.880 --> 01:57:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you all need to know, like we're fucked,

2107
01:57:56.039 --> 01:57:59.399
<v Speaker 3>Like everyone needs to know this, like unless they wipe

2108
01:57:59.399 --> 01:57:59.960
<v Speaker 3>their memories.

2109
01:58:00.279 --> 01:58:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, like this the story of the Giant

2110
01:58:02.840 --> 01:58:06.199
<v Speaker 2>of Kandahar, right, that story, well, it was super top

2111
01:58:06.199 --> 01:58:08.119
<v Speaker 2>secret and only the military knows about and they're keeping

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01:58:08.159 --> 01:58:11.439
<v Speaker 2>their mouths shut. Name I'll throw a rock at any

2113
01:58:11.439 --> 01:58:14.359
<v Speaker 2>military base. I guarantee you'll hit somebody who knows about

2114
01:58:14.399 --> 01:58:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the story of the Giant of Kandahar.

2115
01:58:16.039 --> 01:58:19.880
<v Speaker 3>To be fair, if if the military did go in there,

2116
01:58:20.359 --> 01:58:23.560
<v Speaker 3>I e. The Marines went in there, they one of them,

2117
01:58:24.039 --> 01:58:26.439
<v Speaker 3>if not all of them, would be trying to fuck

2118
01:58:26.439 --> 01:58:28.399
<v Speaker 3>an alien, oh for sure, and then brag about it.

2119
01:58:28.560 --> 01:58:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Must clap alien cheeks. We gotta know that the science

2120
01:58:31.880 --> 01:58:32.399
<v Speaker 2>is out there.

2121
01:58:32.359 --> 01:58:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, Like, you can't convince me otherwise being around uh

2122
01:58:37.319 --> 01:58:41.239
<v Speaker 3>marine men. I'm just saying, without a shadow of a doubt.

2123
01:58:41.119 --> 01:58:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Are women a nasty two? I don't want to hear

2124
01:58:43.039 --> 01:58:43.319
<v Speaker 2>that shit.

2125
01:58:43.479 --> 01:58:46.600
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't saying they were nasty. I'm just confirming that,

2126
01:58:46.840 --> 01:58:50.720
<v Speaker 3>like they would in fact take bets to see who

2127
01:58:50.760 --> 01:58:54.000
<v Speaker 3>could fuck the alien first. It's a sunny badger, we firm.

2128
01:58:54.159 --> 01:58:56.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's it's a it's a standard thing, an

2129
01:58:56.560 --> 01:58:59.960
<v Speaker 2>E three or below marine. If you give them any object,

2130
01:59:00.279 --> 01:59:03.800
<v Speaker 2>they will within the first ten minutes lose it, break it,

2131
01:59:04.000 --> 01:59:07.279
<v Speaker 2>or try to get it pregnant, or try to find

2132
01:59:07.279 --> 01:59:09.199
<v Speaker 2>a way to make it a weapon. These are the

2133
01:59:09.239 --> 01:59:12.720
<v Speaker 2>only options. It is in our nature. I'm sorry, it

2134
01:59:12.840 --> 01:59:15.039
<v Speaker 2>is what it is. So if all of these again,

2135
01:59:15.199 --> 01:59:17.640
<v Speaker 2>that would think that they were part of the navy,

2136
01:59:17.640 --> 01:59:18.680
<v Speaker 2>so I would assume it was marine.

2137
01:59:18.720 --> 01:59:20.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was gonna say its like the Marines had them,

2138
01:59:20.399 --> 01:59:22.640
<v Speaker 3>because if they're going to be a push, we're gonna

2139
01:59:22.640 --> 01:59:23.239
<v Speaker 3>be the ones there.

2140
01:59:23.600 --> 01:59:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Sailors are no better. Keep in mind, we're talking about

2141
01:59:26.760 --> 01:59:30.000
<v Speaker 2>cap'n Cook's men and then fucking the man Ates, which

2142
01:59:30.039 --> 01:59:32.800
<v Speaker 2>is a a ca that's a thing, that's a known thing.

2143
01:59:33.079 --> 01:59:35.960
<v Speaker 2>It's not even like a hypothetical disgusting this tail Like,

2144
01:59:36.279 --> 01:59:39.319
<v Speaker 2>sailors be fucking some nasty things too. So even if

2145
01:59:39.319 --> 01:59:41.560
<v Speaker 2>they were all sailors that made the way to Antarctica

2146
01:59:41.640 --> 01:59:43.880
<v Speaker 2>and they found out that aliens do in fact have

2147
01:59:44.039 --> 01:59:47.399
<v Speaker 2>cheeks and they can possibly be clapped, the sailors are

2148
01:59:47.399 --> 01:59:49.039
<v Speaker 2>going to do just as nasty shit as us.

2149
01:59:49.199 --> 01:59:52.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, I'm just saying, though the forty seven

2150
01:59:52.359 --> 01:59:56.560
<v Speaker 3>hundred to keep quiet as ridiculous amount and whatever happened, definitely,

2151
01:59:56.600 --> 02:00:00.359
<v Speaker 3>and how it's all coincidentally timed around each other, and

2152
02:00:00.399 --> 02:00:03.079
<v Speaker 3>how he was giving interviews though that was saying a

2153
02:00:03.079 --> 02:00:07.279
<v Speaker 3>completely different story at the exact same time. So it's like,

2154
02:00:07.439 --> 02:00:11.239
<v Speaker 3>is this one of those things to discredit him in

2155
02:00:11.279 --> 02:00:13.800
<v Speaker 3>the sense of Hey, we have gold. Hey, we have

2156
02:00:13.880 --> 02:00:19.840
<v Speaker 3>all this stuff, and so this is us discrediting his name,

2157
02:00:20.199 --> 02:00:23.159
<v Speaker 3>or is it. Hey, look at this shiny little thing

2158
02:00:23.199 --> 02:00:26.000
<v Speaker 3>that we're talking about over here, and then let's not

2159
02:00:26.159 --> 02:00:28.079
<v Speaker 3>ask any of the questions as to why we had

2160
02:00:28.159 --> 02:00:30.960
<v Speaker 3>all of these other people over there or roswell happening

2161
02:00:31.039 --> 02:00:34.600
<v Speaker 3>or anything else. Like focus in on this dude and

2162
02:00:34.640 --> 02:00:35.520
<v Speaker 3>just run with it.

2163
02:00:35.840 --> 02:00:38.880
<v Speaker 2>I will say also that I find it interesting that

2164
02:00:38.960 --> 02:00:41.439
<v Speaker 2>this is all before the Antarctic Peace Treaty was signed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was fifty three fifty nine eight eight wow.

2166
02:00:45.439 --> 02:00:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Which we're going to talk about it here in a

2167
02:00:46.640 --> 02:00:52.079
<v Speaker 2>bit because the Madrid Protocols. But so here's my point

2168
02:00:52.119 --> 02:00:55.960
<v Speaker 2>against that. Right. He also mentioned that we America may

2169
02:00:56.000 --> 02:01:01.199
<v Speaker 2>be attacked from the polls. Now people think he means

2170
02:01:01.239 --> 02:01:03.840
<v Speaker 2>clearly the South Pole. Keep in mind he also led

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02:01:03.880 --> 02:01:06.199
<v Speaker 2>an expedition over the North Pole as well.

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02:01:06.520 --> 02:01:06.920
<v Speaker 3>M hmm.

2173
02:01:07.119 --> 02:01:08.199
<v Speaker 2>So that being.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, my uncle went to the North Pole.

2175
02:01:10.720 --> 02:01:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Lucky except for the whole cold thing. But like, it's

2176
02:01:12.760 --> 02:01:14.119
<v Speaker 2>cool to say that you did, you know what I mean.

2177
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<v Speaker 2>But beside the point, if that's true, keep in mind,

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02:01:19.039 --> 02:01:21.039
<v Speaker 2>we still look at the North Pole because that is

2179
02:01:21.079 --> 02:01:25.119
<v Speaker 2>the quickest way to Russia as the crow flies. Now, yes,

2180
02:01:25.159 --> 02:01:26.960
<v Speaker 2>it's very treacherous, and the wind and the cold and

2181
02:01:26.960 --> 02:01:29.359
<v Speaker 2>all the yeah, I get that, But as far as

2182
02:01:29.399 --> 02:01:33.359
<v Speaker 2>an actual land invasion was concerned, we cannot negate the

2183
02:01:33.439 --> 02:01:38.960
<v Speaker 2>possibility of some foreign adversary coming from the north side

2184
02:01:39.000 --> 02:01:41.880
<v Speaker 2>of it, going through much of the wilderness of Canada

2185
02:01:41.920 --> 02:01:45.720
<v Speaker 2>that is uninhabited. Ninety percent of the Canadian population live

2186
02:01:45.760 --> 02:01:48.319
<v Speaker 2>within one hundred miles of the US border. That's just

2187
02:01:48.359 --> 02:01:49.960
<v Speaker 2>the way that works. Because it's warmer.

2188
02:01:50.319 --> 02:01:52.000
<v Speaker 3>It's fucking freezy there.

2189
02:01:52.159 --> 02:01:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I agree, I don't understand, but.

2190
02:01:54.279 --> 02:01:55.680
<v Speaker 3>It's disgustingly cold.

2191
02:01:55.880 --> 02:01:57.479
<v Speaker 2>But my point is if they were to make their

2192
02:01:57.479 --> 02:02:00.319
<v Speaker 2>way from the north side and come to America from

2193
02:02:00.359 --> 02:02:03.880
<v Speaker 2>the North Pole. He never said specifically that an attack

2194
02:02:03.920 --> 02:02:06.079
<v Speaker 2>would come from the South Pole. He said that the

2195
02:02:06.079 --> 02:02:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Poles might be used to attack US. Couple that with

2196
02:02:09.720 --> 02:02:12.720
<v Speaker 2>what he found in South at the South Pole in Antarctica,

2197
02:02:12.880 --> 02:02:16.479
<v Speaker 2>the oil and the uranium and the natural resources gold.

2198
02:02:16.600 --> 02:02:19.199
<v Speaker 2>He even said, so it would stand to reason that,

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02:02:19.319 --> 02:02:22.319
<v Speaker 2>especially during the Cold War when it's US versus Russia,

2200
02:02:22.880 --> 02:02:24.479
<v Speaker 2>that he would say that, Yo, we need to keep

2201
02:02:24.479 --> 02:02:26.239
<v Speaker 2>an eye on the Poles to make sure that the

2202
02:02:26.319 --> 02:02:28.680
<v Speaker 2>Commies don't get there and use that shit before we do.

2203
02:02:29.720 --> 02:02:32.000
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting how all this came out and then the

2204
02:02:32.000 --> 02:02:34.880
<v Speaker 3>treaty was signed. Yeah, kind of.

2205
02:02:34.840 --> 02:02:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Weird, which is also crazy that they got all these

2206
02:02:37.640 --> 02:02:40.680
<v Speaker 2>countries that were not in the best graces with each

2207
02:02:40.680 --> 02:02:44.039
<v Speaker 2>other to come to the table and agree that nobody's

2208
02:02:44.079 --> 02:02:46.119
<v Speaker 2>going to fuck with Antarctica and knowing that it's full

2209
02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:47.680
<v Speaker 2>of natural resources.

2210
02:02:48.640 --> 02:02:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Or it's full of other shit that we don't that

2211
02:02:50.760 --> 02:02:54.399
<v Speaker 3>we don't want to piss off. Very possibly definitely a vibe.

2212
02:02:54.479 --> 02:02:58.079
<v Speaker 3>Maybe when it runs out in forty eight it's going

2213
02:02:58.199 --> 02:03:00.760
<v Speaker 3>to be like that's when they decide to make their

2214
02:03:00.760 --> 02:03:01.520
<v Speaker 3>presence known.

2215
02:03:01.840 --> 02:03:02.800
<v Speaker 2>It's very possible.

2216
02:03:02.880 --> 02:03:05.399
<v Speaker 3>Hey, by the way, we're here, we've been here, what's up.

2217
02:03:06.720 --> 02:03:10.279
<v Speaker 2>So with that in mind, I'm also curious if Project

2218
02:03:10.319 --> 02:03:13.800
<v Speaker 2>High Jump was trying to find an underground base. I'm

2219
02:03:13.840 --> 02:03:16.479
<v Speaker 2>not just gonna say Nazi bas although could be base

2220
02:03:16.560 --> 02:03:19.720
<v Speaker 2>of some type, but especially when you learn that there

2221
02:03:19.800 --> 02:03:23.399
<v Speaker 2>is currently radio signals being sent out of Antarctica that

2222
02:03:23.479 --> 02:03:26.640
<v Speaker 2>we only discovered in twenty sixteen and then stopped reading

2223
02:03:26.680 --> 02:03:28.840
<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen and just said, well that's the thing

2224
02:03:28.880 --> 02:03:32.399
<v Speaker 2>we know now and on to the next thing. It's like, wait, what, Yeah,

2225
02:03:32.439 --> 02:03:33.159
<v Speaker 2>let's learn about it.

2226
02:03:33.960 --> 02:03:37.319
<v Speaker 3>So, like the hollower theory, let's just say.

2227
02:03:38.640 --> 02:03:42.439
<v Speaker 2>All right, so now this is from Smithsonian magazine, And yes,

2228
02:03:42.560 --> 02:03:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I understand that it's Smithsonian. You have to take what

2229
02:03:44.760 --> 02:03:45.880
<v Speaker 2>they say with a grain of salt. But at the

2230
02:03:45.920 --> 02:03:48.520
<v Speaker 2>same time they do do a pretty decent job of

2231
02:03:49.680 --> 02:03:52.560
<v Speaker 2>telling the information as they know it. So now let's

2232
02:03:52.560 --> 02:03:55.840
<v Speaker 2>talk about the mysterious radio pulses found in Antarctica that

2233
02:03:55.920 --> 02:03:58.880
<v Speaker 2>seem to defy physics, and researchers are trying to trace

2234
02:03:58.920 --> 02:04:03.119
<v Speaker 2>their origins. Strange signals detected by NASA's instruments more than

2235
02:04:03.119 --> 02:04:06.920
<v Speaker 2>a decade ago have continued to confound scientists, but a

2236
02:04:06.960 --> 02:04:12.239
<v Speaker 2>new paper rules out cosmic neutrinos as a source. Very fascinating.

2237
02:04:12.680 --> 02:04:16.520
<v Speaker 2>Nearly ten years ago, scientific instruments picked up strange radio

2238
02:04:16.560 --> 02:04:19.960
<v Speaker 2>pulses in Antarctica. Now, in a study recently published in

2239
02:04:20.000 --> 02:04:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Physical Review Letters, researchers take us a step closer to

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02:04:24.000 --> 02:04:27.640
<v Speaker 2>figuring out their origins. The signals were uncovered between twenty

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02:04:27.680 --> 02:04:32.319
<v Speaker 2>sixteen and twenty eighteen by NASA's Impulsive Transient Antenna or

2242
02:04:32.680 --> 02:04:37.520
<v Speaker 2>ANITA ANITA, which use balloons to send detection instruments. More

2243
02:04:37.560 --> 02:04:40.520
<v Speaker 2>than eighteen miles above the icy continent in an attempt

2244
02:04:40.560 --> 02:04:45.359
<v Speaker 2>to identify neutrinos. Neutrinos are higher energy cosmic particles that

2245
02:04:45.399 --> 02:04:49.960
<v Speaker 2>are abundant throughout the universe, but due to their vaporious nature,

2246
02:04:50.079 --> 02:04:52.760
<v Speaker 2>they can pass through many types of matter, even stars,

2247
02:04:52.800 --> 02:04:57.159
<v Speaker 2>and remain unchanged. This makes neutrinos incredibly difficult to detect,

2248
02:04:57.199 --> 02:05:01.279
<v Speaker 2>and physicists have nicknamed them ghost partsticles for that reason.

2249
02:05:01.680 --> 02:05:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Neutrinos do interact with water and ice, however, producing pulses

2250
02:05:05.680 --> 02:05:08.439
<v Speaker 2>of radio waves and showers of particles that can help

2251
02:05:08.439 --> 02:05:12.319
<v Speaker 2>scientists find them with powerful instruments. Once detected, neutrinos can

2252
02:05:12.359 --> 02:05:16.039
<v Speaker 2>reveal impressive information about the nature of cosmics events that

2253
02:05:16.119 --> 02:05:20.479
<v Speaker 2>took place light years away, as Stephen Whistle and astrophysicists

2254
02:05:20.560 --> 02:05:23.600
<v Speaker 2>at Pennsylvania State University, Yeah there's penn State for you,

2255
02:05:24.159 --> 02:05:27.159
<v Speaker 2>says in a statement. Since neutrinos don't interact with much

2256
02:05:27.159 --> 02:05:30.039
<v Speaker 2>of anything, researchers should be able to trace their detection

2257
02:05:30.600 --> 02:05:34.159
<v Speaker 2>or excuse me, direction of travel backward to their point

2258
02:05:34.199 --> 02:05:38.800
<v Speaker 2>of origin, likely a super powerful cosmic event. ANITA is

2259
02:05:38.880 --> 02:05:41.640
<v Speaker 2>meant to detect radio pulses omitted by neutrinos as they

2260
02:05:41.680 --> 02:05:44.720
<v Speaker 2>move through the ice, but its mysterious signals appear to

2261
02:05:44.800 --> 02:05:48.800
<v Speaker 2>come from far below the horizon, passing through thousands of

2262
02:05:48.840 --> 02:05:52.119
<v Speaker 2>miles of Earth's rocky interior. These pulses seem to defy

2263
02:05:52.199 --> 02:05:55.800
<v Speaker 2>current understandings of particle physics, since radio waves caused by

2264
02:05:55.840 --> 02:05:58.079
<v Speaker 2>neutrinos are not expected to be able to pass through

2265
02:05:58.119 --> 02:06:02.520
<v Speaker 2>so much rock. Because they shouldn't be able to, they

2266
02:06:02.520 --> 02:06:05.880
<v Speaker 2>are expected to arrive from slightly below the horizon, where

2267
02:06:06.000 --> 02:06:08.720
<v Speaker 2>there is not much earth for them to be absorbed.

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02:06:09.199 --> 02:06:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Justin Vanderbrook, a physicist at University of Wisconsin Madison who

2269
02:06:14.119 --> 02:06:16.680
<v Speaker 2>was not involved in the research but peer reviewed it,

2270
02:06:16.920 --> 02:06:21.079
<v Speaker 2>tell CNN's Ashley Strickland. Models predict these pulses would come

2271
02:06:21.159 --> 02:06:24.520
<v Speaker 2>in at angles of only one to five degrees below

2272
02:06:24.600 --> 02:06:27.279
<v Speaker 2>the horizon. These came through the ice at a much

2273
02:06:27.319 --> 02:06:31.520
<v Speaker 2>sharper thirty degrees, leaving researchers unable to identify their origins.

2274
02:06:32.000 --> 02:06:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Since then, physicists have been trying to understand the nature

2275
02:06:35.000 --> 02:06:38.039
<v Speaker 2>of these strange signals, such as whether these findings could

2276
02:06:38.079 --> 02:06:40.600
<v Speaker 2>have been a fluke or could point to the existence

2277
02:06:40.640 --> 02:06:45.159
<v Speaker 2>of particles or interactions previously uncharted. The recent study used

2278
02:06:45.159 --> 02:06:49.000
<v Speaker 2>as Pierre Auger Observatory in Argentina bring together hundreds of

2279
02:06:49.039 --> 02:06:52.159
<v Speaker 2>scientists from around the world to analyze fifteen years of

2280
02:06:52.199 --> 02:06:55.800
<v Speaker 2>cosmic data in an attempt to explain Anita's results. The

2281
02:06:55.880 --> 02:06:59.199
<v Speaker 2>observatory employed two different methods in an attempt to find

2282
02:06:59.239 --> 02:07:02.439
<v Speaker 2>the exact signal Anita did. As reported by CNN, the

2283
02:07:02.479 --> 02:07:06.079
<v Speaker 2>first method tried to find high energy particles through tracking

2284
02:07:06.119 --> 02:07:09.560
<v Speaker 2>their interactions with water and tanks on Earth. The second

2285
02:07:09.560 --> 02:07:12.880
<v Speaker 2>method looked for particle interactions with ultraviolet light high in

2286
02:07:12.880 --> 02:07:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the atmosphere, but the team couldn't find any evidence of

2287
02:07:15.920 --> 02:07:19.920
<v Speaker 2>similar signals detected by Pierre Auger, nor could researchers find

2288
02:07:19.920 --> 02:07:23.399
<v Speaker 2>similar events in data from the ice Cube experiments in Antarctica,

2289
02:07:23.479 --> 02:07:27.880
<v Speaker 2>which also was searching for neutrinos. The study concluded that

2290
02:07:27.880 --> 02:07:30.520
<v Speaker 2>the signals detected by Anita could not have been caused

2291
02:07:30.520 --> 02:07:34.720
<v Speaker 2>by neutrinos, thus characterizing them as anomalists. The study was

2292
02:07:34.720 --> 02:07:37.640
<v Speaker 2>also able to clarify that noise and other known particle

2293
02:07:37.680 --> 02:07:41.199
<v Speaker 2>interactions did not contribute to the signals yet, though they

2294
02:07:41.279 --> 02:07:44.520
<v Speaker 2>ruled out a few possible hypotheses, scientists are still not

2295
02:07:44.560 --> 02:07:48.720
<v Speaker 2>sure what exactly caused the strange radio pulses. Much research

2296
02:07:49.000 --> 02:07:51.920
<v Speaker 2>is needed or needs to be done in this study.

2297
02:07:51.920 --> 02:07:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Co author Benjamin Flags of physicists that at the University

2298
02:07:54.680 --> 02:07:59.079
<v Speaker 2>of Delaware tells Live Science is Perry Taylor. There are

2299
02:07:59.159 --> 02:08:02.760
<v Speaker 2>theorists per posing some beyond standard model interactions from different

2300
02:08:02.760 --> 02:08:06.119
<v Speaker 2>types of particles. My guess is that some interesting radio

2301
02:08:06.199 --> 02:08:10.039
<v Speaker 2>propagation effect occurred near ice and also near the horizon

2302
02:08:10.039 --> 02:08:12.960
<v Speaker 2>that I don't fully understand. But we certainly explored several

2303
02:08:13.039 --> 02:08:15.000
<v Speaker 2>of those, and we haven't been able to find any

2304
02:08:15.039 --> 02:08:18.760
<v Speaker 2>of those yet either. Scientists, including Weasel, are now hoping

2305
02:08:19.079 --> 02:08:21.560
<v Speaker 2>that more advanced instruments might bring them closer to an

2306
02:08:21.560 --> 02:08:25.680
<v Speaker 2>answer to this decade long physics mystery. Whistle is now

2307
02:08:25.720 --> 02:08:29.920
<v Speaker 2>working with the Payload for Ultra High Energy Observation, a

2308
02:08:29.960 --> 02:08:32.880
<v Speaker 2>new balloon based detector that is larger and ten times

2309
02:08:32.920 --> 02:08:37.560
<v Speaker 2>more sensitive than ANITA. So anyway, so what we're getting

2310
02:08:37.600 --> 02:08:42.520
<v Speaker 2>from this is that nobody is denying that radio pulses happened,

2311
02:08:43.439 --> 02:08:48.319
<v Speaker 2>and nobody can figure out where they came from. They

2312
02:08:48.399 --> 02:08:51.960
<v Speaker 2>thought that maybe it's the neutrinos that come from space

2313
02:08:52.079 --> 02:08:54.880
<v Speaker 2>from some sort of an event. They passed through stars,

2314
02:08:54.880 --> 02:08:56.600
<v Speaker 2>they should pass through the Earth, that should be a

2315
02:08:56.640 --> 02:09:01.720
<v Speaker 2>straight shot. These came outward from Antarctica. They didn't go

2316
02:09:01.880 --> 02:09:03.000
<v Speaker 2>through Antarctica.

2317
02:09:03.760 --> 02:09:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think there's something underneath. I really do.

2318
02:09:08.439 --> 02:09:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I personally think so as well.

2319
02:09:10.239 --> 02:09:14.640
<v Speaker 3>Because didn't she say yesterday that the tunnel systems between

2320
02:09:14.640 --> 02:09:16.279
<v Speaker 3>the lakes look intentional.

2321
02:09:17.079 --> 02:09:19.560
<v Speaker 2>The it's not the tunnels the caverns themselves, and they

2322
02:09:19.600 --> 02:09:23.399
<v Speaker 2>are connected, don't get me wrong, but they almost look

2323
02:09:23.640 --> 02:09:27.840
<v Speaker 2>like they were built to really be connected, yes, bored

2324
02:09:27.880 --> 02:09:31.319
<v Speaker 2>out exactly. And to say that that's because of hot

2325
02:09:31.359 --> 02:09:33.840
<v Speaker 2>water and things like that, Okay, I could understand that

2326
02:09:33.880 --> 02:09:37.199
<v Speaker 2>to a point. If it was making them go lower,

2327
02:09:37.399 --> 02:09:39.439
<v Speaker 2>like the hot water is melting the ice underneath, and

2328
02:09:39.479 --> 02:09:43.880
<v Speaker 2>it was doing this, it's making them upwards like very

2329
02:09:43.920 --> 02:09:47.880
<v Speaker 2>specific dome like caverns underneath the ice sheet and Antarctica

2330
02:09:47.960 --> 02:09:51.000
<v Speaker 2>that no one can explain what's happening there.

2331
02:09:51.439 --> 02:09:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Hmm. I mean, the evidence just seems to be piling

2332
02:09:55.000 --> 02:09:57.840
<v Speaker 3>up at least to say that there's something else there.

2333
02:09:58.760 --> 02:10:00.800
<v Speaker 3>What that is, who knows?

2334
02:10:01.399 --> 02:10:04.520
<v Speaker 2>And if you would like to experience what that is. Well,

2335
02:10:04.560 --> 02:10:07.840
<v Speaker 2>actually I'm jumping ahead of myself here. As we are

2336
02:10:08.439 --> 02:10:13.079
<v Speaker 2>also talking about the Antarctic Peace Treaty, right, it's also

2337
02:10:13.119 --> 02:10:16.479
<v Speaker 2>important to know about the Madrid Protocol. A lot of

2338
02:10:16.479 --> 02:10:18.479
<v Speaker 2>people have never heard of this. To be honest with you,

2339
02:10:18.560 --> 02:10:20.239
<v Speaker 2>I had never heard of it before I started doing

2340
02:10:20.239 --> 02:10:23.199
<v Speaker 2>this research for these two episodes here. So this is

2341
02:10:23.279 --> 02:10:28.720
<v Speaker 2>from the Secretariat of the Antarctic Treaty website. The Protocol

2342
02:10:28.840 --> 02:10:33.000
<v Speaker 2>on Environmental Protection to the Antarctic Treaty. The Protocol on

2343
02:10:33.119 --> 02:10:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Environmental Protection of the Antarctic Treaty was signed in Madrid

2344
02:10:36.199 --> 02:10:39.960
<v Speaker 2>on October fourth, nineteen ninety one, and entered into force

2345
02:10:40.039 --> 02:10:44.199
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety eight. It designated Antarctica as a natural

2346
02:10:44.239 --> 02:10:47.560
<v Speaker 2>reserve devoted to peace and science. That's from Article two

2347
02:10:47.600 --> 02:10:50.880
<v Speaker 2>of it. Article three of the Environmental Protocol sets forth

2348
02:10:51.039 --> 02:10:55.039
<v Speaker 2>basic principles apply applicable to human activities and Antarctica, and

2349
02:10:55.159 --> 02:10:59.600
<v Speaker 2>Article seven prohibits all activities relating to Antarctic mineral resource

2350
02:11:00.039 --> 02:11:04.720
<v Speaker 2>except for scientific research. The Protocol establishes in its schedule

2351
02:11:04.760 --> 02:11:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the procedure for the constitution and function of a permanent

2352
02:11:07.960 --> 02:11:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Court of Arbitration. It is something publicly reported that the

2353
02:11:12.640 --> 02:11:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Protocol expires in twenty forty eight. This is a misinterpretation

2354
02:11:17.199 --> 02:11:20.439
<v Speaker 2>and is not correct. Allegedly, neither the Protocol nor the

2355
02:11:20.479 --> 02:11:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Antarctic Treaty have a termination date for the first fifty

2356
02:11:23.600 --> 02:11:26.640
<v Speaker 2>years of the protocols entry into force in nineteen ninety eight.

2357
02:11:26.920 --> 02:11:29.920
<v Speaker 2>It can only be modified by a unanimous agreement of

2358
02:11:30.000 --> 02:11:34.319
<v Speaker 2>all consultative parties to the Antarctic Treaty. After this point.

2359
02:11:34.479 --> 02:11:37.800
<v Speaker 2>From nineteen forty eight, any of the Antarctic Treaty consultative

2360
02:11:37.800 --> 02:11:41.840
<v Speaker 2>parties can call for a review conference into the Protocols operation,

2361
02:11:41.960 --> 02:11:44.960
<v Speaker 2>which is an Article twenty five point two. So I'm

2362
02:11:44.960 --> 02:11:46.479
<v Speaker 2>not going to spend too much time on this, but

2363
02:11:46.560 --> 02:11:49.840
<v Speaker 2>hear me out. Hear me out. They sign the Antarctic

2364
02:11:49.920 --> 02:11:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Treaty way back when, and then in nineteen ninety eight

2365
02:11:53.159 --> 02:11:56.880
<v Speaker 2>they agreed to a fifty year term where these are

2366
02:11:56.920 --> 02:12:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the agreed upon rules for Antarctica. Okay, cool. The world

2367
02:12:01.039 --> 02:12:04.680
<v Speaker 2>has shifted a bit since nineteen ninety eight to twenty

2368
02:12:04.720 --> 02:12:08.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty six, twenty twenty five, right now, right. I got

2369
02:12:08.920 --> 02:12:12.640
<v Speaker 2>a hard time believing that when twenty forty eight rolls

2370
02:12:12.680 --> 02:12:14.800
<v Speaker 2>around that they're gonna get all of the signers of

2371
02:12:14.840 --> 02:12:17.039
<v Speaker 2>the Anarctic Treaty to come together and say, you know what,

2372
02:12:17.680 --> 02:12:19.840
<v Speaker 2>you're right, Let's just keep things the way they are.

2373
02:12:20.199 --> 02:12:22.439
<v Speaker 2>We don't need to explore, we don't need to drill oil.

2374
02:12:22.479 --> 02:12:24.239
<v Speaker 2>We don't need to go for the uranium. We don't

2375
02:12:24.239 --> 02:12:26.079
<v Speaker 2>need to go for the goal. We're gonna leave that

2376
02:12:26.159 --> 02:12:29.159
<v Speaker 2>to be a scientific game, preserve essentially.

2377
02:12:29.119 --> 02:12:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Unless there is something down there that they don't want

2378
02:12:31.319 --> 02:12:33.760
<v Speaker 3>us to see, know about, or piss off.

2379
02:12:34.319 --> 02:12:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Keep in mind, now, the Space Force is a thing.

2380
02:12:38.000 --> 02:12:40.680
<v Speaker 2>They have a lot of UFO whistleblowers coming out. The

2381
02:12:40.720 --> 02:12:43.359
<v Speaker 2>government of the United States. Government is acknowledging the fact

2382
02:12:43.399 --> 02:12:46.680
<v Speaker 2>that UFOs are real, and there's more disclosure coming out

2383
02:12:46.680 --> 02:12:47.079
<v Speaker 2>every day.

2384
02:12:47.239 --> 02:12:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Did you watch Day After Tomorrow?

2385
02:12:49.039 --> 02:12:49.159
<v Speaker 5>Oh?

2386
02:12:49.239 --> 02:12:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, man, that show if that happened when

2387
02:12:54.840 --> 02:12:56.039
<v Speaker 3>we so fucked.

2388
02:12:55.920 --> 02:12:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Ah, you mean the day there stood Still? Or you

2389
02:12:57.600 --> 02:12:59.920
<v Speaker 2>mean Day After Tomorrow with the big Hurricane of Ice.

2390
02:13:00.800 --> 02:13:04.159
<v Speaker 3>No, the one with uh Keanu Reeves. No, I've seen

2391
02:13:04.199 --> 02:13:04.680
<v Speaker 3>both of those.

2392
02:13:04.800 --> 02:13:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

2393
02:13:06.119 --> 02:13:08.039
<v Speaker 3>No, it's the one that just came out like two

2394
02:13:08.079 --> 02:13:10.319
<v Speaker 3>years ago. You know, it's a Day after Tomorrow.

2395
02:13:11.039 --> 02:13:13.079
<v Speaker 2>I thought the Day After Tomorrow was uh with Jake

2396
02:13:13.159 --> 02:13:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Jillenhall when the earth froze.

2397
02:13:15.279 --> 02:13:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Damn, Oh my god, hang on now, I've been thinking

2398
02:13:17.680 --> 02:13:19.960
<v Speaker 3>about the names with Chris Pratt. It's weird.

2399
02:13:20.479 --> 02:13:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's weirdy have Tomorrow.

2400
02:13:22.720 --> 02:13:26.119
<v Speaker 3>War Tomorrow wart. Yeah, my brain sorry, y'all, it's late

2401
02:13:26.159 --> 02:13:27.520
<v Speaker 3>and my brain's like not working.

2402
02:13:27.640 --> 02:13:29.640
<v Speaker 2>And there's some sort of alien that's been thawing out

2403
02:13:29.640 --> 02:13:30.319
<v Speaker 2>in the ice.

2404
02:13:30.800 --> 02:13:33.439
<v Speaker 3>Ice, yeah, and it busts out and it's hive mind

2405
02:13:33.520 --> 02:13:36.520
<v Speaker 3>and they're crazy fast and crazy good at killing.

2406
02:13:37.279 --> 02:13:37.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

2407
02:13:38.279 --> 02:13:40.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean when I saw that, I was like, of

2408
02:13:40.920 --> 02:13:44.039
<v Speaker 3>course you'd make it about you know, ice and then

2409
02:13:44.159 --> 02:13:46.000
<v Speaker 3>thawing out and then beating down there.

2410
02:13:46.319 --> 02:13:49.039
<v Speaker 2>That movie also killed me, So, like, these things are

2411
02:13:49.079 --> 02:13:53.840
<v Speaker 2>super sensitive to sound, So obviously Chris Pratt needs to

2412
02:13:53.880 --> 02:13:57.239
<v Speaker 2>bring a short barreled ar with no suppressor on it.

2413
02:13:57.840 --> 02:14:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Clearly that is the correct move. There's skin is also

2414
02:14:00.800 --> 02:14:03.399
<v Speaker 2>super thick, and we need like armor penetrating rounds and

2415
02:14:03.439 --> 02:14:07.479
<v Speaker 2>some high velocity rounds shortened barrel ar. Clearly the option.

2416
02:14:07.560 --> 02:14:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, and you were supposed to be some sort

2417
02:14:10.000 --> 02:14:11.840
<v Speaker 2>of a billy badass when you were in the service,

2418
02:14:11.880 --> 02:14:14.279
<v Speaker 2>and this is Yeah, I'm just saying, I'm.

2419
02:14:14.439 --> 02:14:16.359
<v Speaker 3>I like the law of the movie, though I did.

2420
02:14:16.479 --> 02:14:19.319
<v Speaker 2>I like the premise behind it. Some of the tactics

2421
02:14:19.359 --> 02:14:21.079
<v Speaker 2>that were used a stupid and then also they just

2422
02:14:21.399 --> 02:14:25.680
<v Speaker 2>dumping people dumping rounds in the stairwell of a building

2423
02:14:25.960 --> 02:14:29.119
<v Speaker 2>with no ear protection whatsoever, and everybody just unloads and

2424
02:14:29.159 --> 02:14:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, bro, rip to your ear drums and you're

2425
02:14:32.279 --> 02:14:33.159
<v Speaker 2>gonna try this ship.

2426
02:14:33.239 --> 02:14:37.119
<v Speaker 3>That they did, though, I'm like, yeah, they didn't prepare

2427
02:14:37.159 --> 02:14:38.920
<v Speaker 3>those people at all. Like, if you're going to be

2428
02:14:39.039 --> 02:14:41.439
<v Speaker 3>throwing bodies at this and trying to win a war,

2429
02:14:41.960 --> 02:14:44.279
<v Speaker 3>why wouldn't you prep these people or.

2430
02:14:44.239 --> 02:14:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Give them some training, even the level of training anything.

2431
02:14:48.680 --> 02:14:51.640
<v Speaker 3>They just were like, let's throw bodies at this machine

2432
02:14:51.680 --> 02:14:55.319
<v Speaker 3>of death over here. It's like, okay, some of it

2433
02:14:55.399 --> 02:14:58.560
<v Speaker 3>was really stupid. The premise behind it, though, I was like,

2434
02:14:59.279 --> 02:15:01.840
<v Speaker 3>what is it with you? You guys in the fucking ice? Man?

2435
02:15:02.800 --> 02:15:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, as far as that goes, we have

2436
02:15:05.159 --> 02:15:07.039
<v Speaker 2>looked about we found microbes that exactly.

2437
02:15:07.079 --> 02:15:10.119
<v Speaker 3>And then we have this conversation. It's like, man, it's

2438
02:15:10.119 --> 02:15:11.640
<v Speaker 3>really not looking good for the home team.

2439
02:15:11.760 --> 02:15:15.239
<v Speaker 2>It's not at that really nice right. So then cut

2440
02:15:15.279 --> 02:15:20.000
<v Speaker 2>to the Madrid Protocol off of the Antarctic Peace Treaty. Yeah,

2441
02:15:20.079 --> 02:15:22.560
<v Speaker 2>you're telling me that with all this going on now,

2442
02:15:22.600 --> 02:15:25.920
<v Speaker 2>that in twenty forty eight, whoever is leading our country

2443
02:15:25.920 --> 02:15:28.119
<v Speaker 2>in Russia and all these places are going to just

2444
02:15:28.119 --> 02:15:30.960
<v Speaker 2>come together and say all right, I know there's tons

2445
02:15:30.960 --> 02:15:33.359
<v Speaker 2>of oil. I know, there's tons of uranium, tons of gold.

2446
02:15:33.920 --> 02:15:36.199
<v Speaker 2>We're just gonna leave it where it's at. We're just

2447
02:15:36.239 --> 02:15:37.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna sidestep.

2448
02:15:37.600 --> 02:15:41.600
<v Speaker 3>They have it, has no have it. It doesn't say

2449
02:15:41.640 --> 02:15:43.039
<v Speaker 3>that it has a termination date.

2450
02:15:43.279 --> 02:15:45.520
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't. But twenty forty eight, they're gonna be able

2451
02:15:45.560 --> 02:15:47.399
<v Speaker 2>to come to the table and re sign it, but

2452
02:15:47.439 --> 02:15:48.319
<v Speaker 2>they will make changes.

2453
02:15:48.399 --> 02:15:50.079
<v Speaker 3>But the only way that it can be signed is

2454
02:15:50.159 --> 02:15:51.359
<v Speaker 3>unanimously agreement.

2455
02:15:51.760 --> 02:15:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's my point. So you're telling me that that's

2456
02:15:54.199 --> 02:15:56.439
<v Speaker 2>all going to agree to keep things the way they.

2457
02:15:56.359 --> 02:16:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Are, all twenty six parties adopt the protocol.

2458
02:16:01.720 --> 02:16:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I got a hard time believing that that's just going

2459
02:16:03.960 --> 02:16:04.800
<v Speaker 2>to go down that way.

2460
02:16:04.960 --> 02:16:08.000
<v Speaker 3>They adopted it in nineteen ninety one too. That's what

2461
02:16:08.039 --> 02:16:10.680
<v Speaker 3>it says, is that they all agreed in nineteen ninety one.

2462
02:16:10.720 --> 02:16:12.399
<v Speaker 3>What the hell happened in nineteen ninety one that they

2463
02:16:12.439 --> 02:16:13.199
<v Speaker 3>agreed upon.

2464
02:16:13.319 --> 02:16:15.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, the collapse of the Soviet Union or whatever. Yeah,

2465
02:16:16.159 --> 02:16:18.479
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, and then it was enforced in ninety eight.

2466
02:16:18.800 --> 02:16:19.319
<v Speaker 3>I see that.

2467
02:16:20.079 --> 02:16:23.239
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing. It's this is a different world

2468
02:16:23.319 --> 02:16:25.560
<v Speaker 2>than it was in the nineteen nineties, and I have

2469
02:16:25.600 --> 02:16:29.279
<v Speaker 2>a real difficult time picturing that the world in twenty

2470
02:16:29.319 --> 02:16:33.040
<v Speaker 2>forty eight is going to just be a utopian area

2471
02:16:33.040 --> 02:16:35.879
<v Speaker 2>where everybody's going to be chill. I just don't see it.

2472
02:16:35.959 --> 02:16:37.559
<v Speaker 3>I will say that those of you that want to

2473
02:16:37.600 --> 02:16:40.200
<v Speaker 3>read the document, this is actually breaks it down really good.

2474
02:16:40.319 --> 02:16:43.600
<v Speaker 2>So I mean we could read the rest of it

2475
02:16:43.639 --> 02:16:44.040
<v Speaker 2>if you want.

2476
02:16:44.159 --> 02:16:46.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, no, I just was simply saying like, it's

2477
02:16:46.719 --> 02:16:48.879
<v Speaker 3>it gives you the entire document, and it gives you

2478
02:16:49.000 --> 02:16:50.760
<v Speaker 3>all the different parts and how to break it down

2479
02:16:50.840 --> 02:16:51.280
<v Speaker 3>and read it.

2480
02:16:51.360 --> 02:16:53.680
<v Speaker 2>So oh yeah, no, man, those are hyperlinks. We are

2481
02:16:53.719 --> 02:16:54.159
<v Speaker 2>not drying.

2482
02:16:54.239 --> 02:16:56.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, we're We're not going to go down that

2483
02:16:56.159 --> 02:16:58.440
<v Speaker 3>rabbit hole. But I was just kind of looking at like, hmmmm,

2484
02:16:58.639 --> 02:17:01.079
<v Speaker 3>all right, but if you want to, yeah, the good

2485
02:17:01.079 --> 02:17:02.079
<v Speaker 3>old Antarctica.

2486
02:17:02.120 --> 02:17:05.079
<v Speaker 2>If you want to visit Antarctica, you would have to

2487
02:17:05.120 --> 02:17:09.479
<v Speaker 2>go through the IAATO. All right. This is the organization

2488
02:17:09.600 --> 02:17:11.760
<v Speaker 2>that gives you all of the permits that you need

2489
02:17:11.799 --> 02:17:15.479
<v Speaker 2>to go to the island continent. And the thing is

2490
02:17:15.920 --> 02:17:18.719
<v Speaker 2>for everybody, even scientific researchers, have to go through this

2491
02:17:18.920 --> 02:17:22.719
<v Speaker 2>organization to get their permits Antarctica. And I'm just gonna

2492
02:17:22.719 --> 02:17:24.639
<v Speaker 2>read a little bit of their website here. Antarctica is

2493
02:17:24.680 --> 02:17:28.399
<v Speaker 2>the largest wilderness area on Earth unaffected by large scale

2494
02:17:28.440 --> 02:17:31.600
<v Speaker 2>human activities. As a unique pristine environment, it has been

2495
02:17:31.639 --> 02:17:36.280
<v Speaker 2>afforded special protection. It is also physically remote, inhospitable, unpredictable,

2496
02:17:36.319 --> 02:17:39.680
<v Speaker 2>and potentially dangerous. It really is. And again, if y'all

2497
02:17:39.719 --> 02:17:41.680
<v Speaker 2>want to see about how dangers, look at the story

2498
02:17:41.680 --> 02:17:44.600
<v Speaker 2>of Tom Kern and what he had to do to

2499
02:17:44.639 --> 02:17:48.799
<v Speaker 2>just survive that place three separate times. It's insane, badass

2500
02:17:49.040 --> 02:17:51.680
<v Speaker 2>all he is. All activities should therefore be planned and

2501
02:17:51.719 --> 02:17:55.040
<v Speaker 2>conducted with both environmental protection and safety of mind. For

2502
02:17:55.120 --> 02:17:58.159
<v Speaker 2>the record, To get your permit approved, you have to

2503
02:17:58.280 --> 02:18:01.600
<v Speaker 2>have every step of everything that you plan to do,

2504
02:18:02.120 --> 02:18:05.079
<v Speaker 2>and your whole gear list, and who's going and out,

2505
02:18:05.159 --> 02:18:07.360
<v Speaker 2>how long you plan on staying, and what type of

2506
02:18:07.399 --> 02:18:10.120
<v Speaker 2>area are you staying, what type of tint are you using?

2507
02:18:10.200 --> 02:18:12.479
<v Speaker 2>Like has to be laid out.

2508
02:18:12.799 --> 02:18:15.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, no shit, it's freezing cold there. They don't

2509
02:18:15.440 --> 02:18:17.319
<v Speaker 3>want people to go there and die because then it

2510
02:18:17.319 --> 02:18:19.680
<v Speaker 3>gets bad pressed and then more people want to dig around.

2511
02:18:19.959 --> 02:18:21.840
<v Speaker 3>But you can't take a cruise ship, y'all.

2512
02:18:22.040 --> 02:18:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well that's the thing. Even to go on your

2513
02:18:23.719 --> 02:18:25.799
<v Speaker 2>cruise ship, you have to go through this. Oh yeah,

2514
02:18:26.040 --> 02:18:29.040
<v Speaker 2>but the cruise liner, it's understood that you're gonna buy

2515
02:18:29.159 --> 02:18:31.399
<v Speaker 2>by certain rules. Even if you go to that resort

2516
02:18:31.520 --> 02:18:33.959
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote that's open for certain sections of the year,

2517
02:18:34.360 --> 02:18:36.799
<v Speaker 2>you're not leaving the resort, like you're not allowed to

2518
02:18:36.879 --> 02:18:39.200
<v Speaker 2>just like go explore Antarctica.

2519
02:18:39.319 --> 02:18:41.840
<v Speaker 3>You have to want to, like why would you want

2520
02:18:41.879 --> 02:18:44.120
<v Speaker 3>to try to go by yourself places and be like

2521
02:18:44.920 --> 02:18:46.040
<v Speaker 3>get a hope for the best.

2522
02:18:46.200 --> 02:18:48.559
<v Speaker 2>But see, that's a two part problem. Right on the

2523
02:18:48.559 --> 02:18:51.719
<v Speaker 2>one side, it's for your protection, sure, because you could

2524
02:18:51.719 --> 02:18:55.200
<v Speaker 2>step through the ice and fall into some underwater cavern,

2525
02:18:55.280 --> 02:18:58.319
<v Speaker 2>a lake, glac You have no idea what's there? Or two,

2526
02:18:58.520 --> 02:18:59.959
<v Speaker 2>how do they know you're not going to be throwing

2527
02:19:00.120 --> 02:19:05.120
<v Speaker 2>trash everywhere? And now this pristine, untouched human all the things.

2528
02:19:05.399 --> 02:19:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Now we got penguins eating shit or.

2529
02:19:07.360 --> 02:19:10.319
<v Speaker 3>You see the ice wall.

2530
02:19:09.559 --> 02:19:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Obviously it's about the ice wall. Clearly you find the hole.

2531
02:19:12.920 --> 02:19:15.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm very glad that you brought up the ice wall

2532
02:19:15.159 --> 02:19:18.399
<v Speaker 2>because there has been a group of flat earthers and

2533
02:19:18.479 --> 02:19:21.040
<v Speaker 2>a group of globe tarts that made their way to

2534
02:19:21.159 --> 02:19:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica to prove the idea of the ice wall and

2535
02:19:24.479 --> 02:19:28.840
<v Speaker 2>the twenty four hour Sun and your boy Jaron, who

2536
02:19:30.239 --> 02:19:32.440
<v Speaker 2>is supposed to come on this show eventually one of

2537
02:19:32.479 --> 02:19:35.079
<v Speaker 2>these days, we're gonna figure that out. He actually has

2538
02:19:35.120 --> 02:19:38.200
<v Speaker 2>shifted his narrative and he acknowledges that you know, what

2539
02:19:38.360 --> 02:19:42.399
<v Speaker 2>the Earth is in fact round? It simply must be. So,

2540
02:19:42.719 --> 02:19:45.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're gonna play this little clip, and this

2541
02:19:45.159 --> 02:19:48.440
<v Speaker 2>is from the damage report. Surprise flat Earthers, the world

2542
02:19:48.559 --> 02:19:52.239
<v Speaker 2>is round. Let's listen on this one together, and we'll

2543
02:19:52.280 --> 02:19:55.239
<v Speaker 2>hear from them what they discovered on this one. And

2544
02:19:55.280 --> 02:19:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I will give the disclaimer. This girl, it's a bit

2545
02:19:58.040 --> 02:20:02.680
<v Speaker 2>of a bitch, but she's doing it in a joking way,

2546
02:20:02.760 --> 02:20:05.959
<v Speaker 2>so like I'll take it. But just so we understand here,

2547
02:20:06.239 --> 02:20:09.680
<v Speaker 2>she definitely is throwing her bias hard at the expedition.

2548
02:20:09.799 --> 02:20:12.000
<v Speaker 2>But I also think it's pretty entertaining. So let's check

2549
02:20:12.000 --> 02:20:12.520
<v Speaker 2>it out together.

2550
02:20:12.760 --> 02:20:17.000
<v Speaker 6>Of all the conspiracies that have sort of pervaded human consciousness,

2551
02:20:17.719 --> 02:20:21.000
<v Speaker 6>wouldn't we agree, Other than the fake birds aren't real conspiracy,

2552
02:20:21.040 --> 02:20:25.959
<v Speaker 6>which is a beautiful troll, the flat earth conspiracy theory

2553
02:20:26.280 --> 02:20:28.239
<v Speaker 6>is perhaps the most perfect.

2554
02:20:28.440 --> 02:20:31.879
<v Speaker 2>You know, I can't see edge of Earth, therefore must

2555
02:20:31.959 --> 02:20:32.520
<v Speaker 2>be flat.

2556
02:20:32.559 --> 02:20:36.159
<v Speaker 6>It's just so so lizard brain, so simplistic, so beautiful,

2557
02:20:36.879 --> 02:20:40.079
<v Speaker 6>and in fact, between two and ten percent of Americans

2558
02:20:40.920 --> 02:20:42.120
<v Speaker 6>believe it to be true.

2559
02:20:42.399 --> 02:20:48.040
<v Speaker 4>Pause, Sometimes you are wrong in life. This is and

2560
02:20:48.200 --> 02:20:49.719
<v Speaker 4>I thought that there was no twenty four hours son.

2561
02:20:49.760 --> 02:20:52.239
<v Speaker 4>In fact, I was pretty sure of it. But I

2562
02:20:52.280 --> 02:20:55.600
<v Speaker 4>respect Will Duffy for being a stand up guy, at

2563
02:20:55.719 --> 02:20:58.040
<v Speaker 4>least in the way that he kept saying it was true.

2564
02:20:58.040 --> 02:21:00.680
<v Speaker 4>I kept saying it wasn't. She said, do you want

2565
02:21:00.680 --> 02:21:02.600
<v Speaker 4>to go, I'll take you and brought me here. And

2566
02:21:02.639 --> 02:21:07.520
<v Speaker 4>it's a fact. The sun does circle you in the south.

2567
02:21:07.719 --> 02:21:10.600
<v Speaker 4>It seems like the moon does circle here as well,

2568
02:21:10.840 --> 02:21:12.000
<v Speaker 4>so you start thinking about.

2569
02:21:11.760 --> 02:21:12.239
<v Speaker 2>That as well.

2570
02:21:12.760 --> 02:21:14.920
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't mean that a map is over, flat Earth

2571
02:21:15.000 --> 02:21:17.799
<v Speaker 4>is over. Maybe somebody's got the answer. I don't have

2572
02:21:17.840 --> 02:21:18.319
<v Speaker 4>that answer.

2573
02:21:18.639 --> 02:21:21.200
<v Speaker 6>And what you saw right there was one of these

2574
02:21:21.239 --> 02:21:25.479
<v Speaker 6>flat earthers coming to a really.

2575
02:21:25.079 --> 02:21:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Really tough realization that he is wrong.

2576
02:21:29.840 --> 02:21:36.040
<v Speaker 6>Because that is Jason Campanella or Jaron Campanella, who's been

2577
02:21:36.079 --> 02:21:39.120
<v Speaker 6>in multiple documentaries about the Earth being flat and runs

2578
02:21:39.120 --> 02:21:44.040
<v Speaker 6>of flat Earth YouTube channel channel jarrionism. Oh boy, and

2579
02:21:44.079 --> 02:21:47.079
<v Speaker 6>he's finding out that, no, the Earth is not flat.

2580
02:21:47.719 --> 02:21:53.719
<v Speaker 6>In fact, he was flown to the Antarctic for one

2581
02:21:53.840 --> 02:21:58.079
<v Speaker 6>thirty five thousand dollars flight by a round earther. In

2582
02:21:58.120 --> 02:22:01.239
<v Speaker 6>other words, someone who lives in reality in order to

2583
02:22:01.319 --> 02:22:05.799
<v Speaker 6>see whether the sun would ever set right in the Antarctic.

2584
02:22:05.959 --> 02:22:08.479
<v Speaker 6>It does not set. It's twenty four hours straight. It

2585
02:22:08.600 --> 02:22:14.120
<v Speaker 6>just goes around and around and around. So he was like, yeah, oops,

2586
02:22:14.840 --> 02:22:18.600
<v Speaker 6>I saw it, and I guess you could be wrong,

2587
02:22:18.840 --> 02:22:20.639
<v Speaker 6>and now I'm gonna pack it in. Of course, he's

2588
02:22:20.680 --> 02:22:23.559
<v Speaker 6>not gonna pack it in. He's gonna he's probably gonna

2589
02:22:23.559 --> 02:22:25.239
<v Speaker 6>he's gonna figure out some way to grift off of this.

2590
02:22:25.319 --> 02:22:29.520
<v Speaker 2>But that was amazing. He's like, the rounders are right.

2591
02:22:30.520 --> 02:22:35.920
<v Speaker 6>Of course, actual flat earthers who still believe they're calling bs,

2592
02:22:36.000 --> 02:22:39.639
<v Speaker 6>they think that Jaren actually was in front of a

2593
02:22:39.639 --> 02:22:44.920
<v Speaker 6>green screen flat Earth. Dave over on x says the

2594
02:22:44.959 --> 02:22:47.440
<v Speaker 6>final experiment green screen busted.

2595
02:22:48.399 --> 02:22:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Shout out to flatter Dave. The bet is still on, Dave.

2596
02:22:51.319 --> 02:22:53.799
<v Speaker 2>If you're out there listening, three bitcoins are your face

2597
02:22:53.799 --> 02:22:56.440
<v Speaker 2>tram stamped on me. If we could prove one of

2598
02:22:56.520 --> 02:22:59.159
<v Speaker 2>us wrong, let's continue, uh.

2599
02:22:58.799 --> 02:23:01.680
<v Speaker 6>Which I don't even know what this is an image of.

2600
02:23:01.840 --> 02:23:02.360
<v Speaker 2>But cool.

2601
02:23:02.920 --> 02:23:07.200
<v Speaker 6>Then here's someone else who is using Melty SpongeBob meme

2602
02:23:07.440 --> 02:23:08.280
<v Speaker 6>in a way that he.

2603
02:23:08.200 --> 02:23:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Thinks is good.

2604
02:23:09.319 --> 02:23:11.479
<v Speaker 6>You're trying to prove the world is round by displaying

2605
02:23:11.479 --> 02:23:13.959
<v Speaker 6>twenty four hour sunlight, but leave the on the chroma

2606
02:23:14.040 --> 02:23:17.000
<v Speaker 6>key that will cause live feed distortions to possibly ruin

2607
02:23:17.120 --> 02:23:18.959
<v Speaker 6>all the investment to go down.

2608
02:23:18.799 --> 02:23:20.520
<v Speaker 2>There, because your credibility is gone.

2609
02:23:20.760 --> 02:23:23.479
<v Speaker 6>It's like NASA relanding on the Moon and then having

2610
02:23:23.520 --> 02:23:26.040
<v Speaker 6>a chroma key malfunction on the live stream, and you're

2611
02:23:26.040 --> 02:23:26.719
<v Speaker 6>sitting here.

2612
02:23:26.600 --> 02:23:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Going, I don't see why that's a big deal.

2613
02:23:33.239 --> 02:23:37.799
<v Speaker 6>My God, like it again, guys, it's not about being

2614
02:23:37.840 --> 02:23:42.479
<v Speaker 6>proven wrong. It does not matter whether they are wrong.

2615
02:23:42.559 --> 02:23:45.719
<v Speaker 6>They will always find a way to continue to believe

2616
02:23:45.799 --> 02:23:49.719
<v Speaker 6>the lies. And bless bless this rounder. I'm calling him

2617
02:23:49.719 --> 02:23:52.920
<v Speaker 6>a rounder, the round Earth or who spent thirty five

2618
02:23:53.000 --> 02:23:57.520
<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars to send Jaren on a trip that he

2619
02:23:57.559 --> 02:24:00.079
<v Speaker 6>would never forget. And it opens with can we just

2620
02:24:00.120 --> 02:24:02.479
<v Speaker 6>play it again? It's just very funny to me, Let's

2621
02:24:02.520 --> 02:24:04.600
<v Speaker 6>play it again when he realizes that he was wrong.

2622
02:24:07.319 --> 02:24:11.319
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes you are wrong in life. And I thought that

2623
02:24:11.360 --> 02:24:12.879
<v Speaker 4>there was no twenty four hours son. In fact, I

2624
02:24:12.879 --> 02:24:16.079
<v Speaker 4>was pretty sure of it. But I respect Will Duffy

2625
02:24:16.200 --> 02:24:18.920
<v Speaker 4>for being a stand up guy, at least in the

2626
02:24:18.959 --> 02:24:21.040
<v Speaker 4>way that he kept saying it was true. I kept

2627
02:24:21.079 --> 02:24:23.559
<v Speaker 4>saying it wasn't He said, do you want to go,

2628
02:24:23.559 --> 02:24:26.120
<v Speaker 4>I'll take you and brought me here. And it's a

2629
02:24:26.239 --> 02:24:30.239
<v Speaker 4>fact the sun does circle you in the south.

2630
02:24:30.440 --> 02:24:34.600
<v Speaker 2>It seems all right. So again Jaren, who he is

2631
02:24:34.600 --> 02:24:37.280
<v Speaker 2>supposed to be coming on the cult of conspiracy one

2632
02:24:37.319 --> 02:24:39.719
<v Speaker 2>of these days, I am super excited about that, by

2633
02:24:39.760 --> 02:24:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the way, just going to throw it out. Oh no, no,

2634
02:24:43.040 --> 02:24:46.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean because a like he's actually been to the

2635
02:24:46.120 --> 02:24:47.399
<v Speaker 2>South Pole, which.

2636
02:24:47.280 --> 02:24:48.559
<v Speaker 3>Is yeah, I do want to ask a whole bunch

2637
02:24:48.559 --> 02:24:49.120
<v Speaker 3>of questions.

2638
02:24:49.280 --> 02:24:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Secondly, your boy Duffy thirty five thousand dollars to send

2639
02:24:55.200 --> 02:24:58.239
<v Speaker 2>three of them to the South Pole, and your boy

2640
02:24:58.319 --> 02:25:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Jaren's the only one that was like, well, I thought

2641
02:25:00.680 --> 02:25:02.079
<v Speaker 2>this was the case. And I mean you've seen the

2642
02:25:02.079 --> 02:25:04.760
<v Speaker 2>flat Earth model, have you not? And so if the

2643
02:25:04.799 --> 02:25:07.680
<v Speaker 2>sun is making its rotation on the plate like they say,

2644
02:25:07.680 --> 02:25:10.719
<v Speaker 2>it is no matter how you slice that, there's no

2645
02:25:10.840 --> 02:25:13.360
<v Speaker 2>way that the sun could be on Antarctica for twenty

2646
02:25:13.360 --> 02:25:17.559
<v Speaker 2>four hours they were shown this Jarin is the one

2647
02:25:17.600 --> 02:25:21.079
<v Speaker 2>that was like, Okay, I think this is the way

2648
02:25:21.079 --> 02:25:24.040
<v Speaker 2>it is. I was wrong. The other two started going

2649
02:25:24.079 --> 02:25:28.440
<v Speaker 2>through like this weird sense of denial and then jumping

2650
02:25:28.440 --> 02:25:30.399
<v Speaker 2>through a million different hoops to try to say that

2651
02:25:30.680 --> 02:25:33.840
<v Speaker 2>it's the sun reflecting off of the firmament and that's why,

2652
02:25:33.920 --> 02:25:35.799
<v Speaker 2>and it looks like and it's this, and it's this.

2653
02:25:36.360 --> 02:25:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Flat Earth. Day is the only one that said anything

2654
02:25:38.040 --> 02:25:40.920
<v Speaker 2>about a green scream, even though there was like five

2655
02:25:41.000 --> 02:25:43.520
<v Speaker 2>different camera angles that were being used and there was

2656
02:25:43.559 --> 02:25:46.520
<v Speaker 2>shadows that you could see. It was live streamed the

2657
02:25:46.559 --> 02:25:49.639
<v Speaker 2>whole twenty four hours like it. He basically was calling

2658
02:25:49.639 --> 02:25:52.040
<v Speaker 2>into question even the flat earthers that were on the

2659
02:25:52.079 --> 02:25:54.520
<v Speaker 2>expedition with him because they were saying that there was

2660
02:25:54.520 --> 02:25:57.760
<v Speaker 2>no green screen being used. So it's anyway. Yeah, so

2661
02:25:57.799 --> 02:26:02.200
<v Speaker 2>as far as the ice wall converse goes, no, nope,

2662
02:26:02.239 --> 02:26:05.000
<v Speaker 2>that's that's not a thing. It's just it's not so

2663
02:26:05.040 --> 02:26:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry about that.

2664
02:26:05.719 --> 02:26:07.079
<v Speaker 3>A lot of us watch Game of Thrones.

2665
02:26:07.760 --> 02:26:11.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, I mean I did too, I do. I

2666
02:26:11.159 --> 02:26:14.879
<v Speaker 2>do love Game of Thrones. But anyway, so now, good

2667
02:26:14.920 --> 02:26:18.239
<v Speaker 2>cult members, let's get back to the Antarctica conversation, and

2668
02:26:18.440 --> 02:26:24.120
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about how Raytheon was running the Giant Lab

2669
02:26:24.440 --> 02:26:29.120
<v Speaker 2>for America in Antarctica, because in and of itself, that's conspiratorialist. Fuck.

2670
02:26:29.600 --> 02:26:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Why is one of our biggest military industrial contract in

2671
02:26:33.639 --> 02:26:40.920
<v Speaker 2>military industrial contractors running wholeheartedly. The MCDUA or I think

2672
02:26:40.920 --> 02:26:43.559
<v Speaker 2>that's the name of it. M McDonough. I'm gonna look

2673
02:26:43.559 --> 02:26:47.959
<v Speaker 2>at here in a moment. Research labh makes no sense.

2674
02:26:47.959 --> 02:26:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Whenever you look into this, you'll find the Raytheon Polar

2675
02:26:50.639 --> 02:26:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Services Company. Raytheon Polar Services Company was a division of

2676
02:26:54.559 --> 02:26:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Raytheon now it's called RTX that provided logistics, operations, and

2677
02:26:59.159 --> 02:27:03.120
<v Speaker 2>staffing for the National Science Foundations operations in Antarctica and

2678
02:27:03.760 --> 02:27:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Antarctic waters. This it contrasts with the United States Our

2679
02:27:09.440 --> 02:27:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Antarctic Program expired March thirtieth, twenty twelve. We're going to

2680
02:27:13.879 --> 02:27:15.159
<v Speaker 2>get into why that is here in a bit, but

2681
02:27:15.200 --> 02:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about their operational role. The US Antarctic Program

2682
02:27:18.680 --> 02:27:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Participant Guide lists RPSC Raytheon's role in the Antarctica as

2683
02:27:24.280 --> 02:27:29.760
<v Speaker 2>following supporting science and operating research labs. So it's not

2684
02:27:29.799 --> 02:27:34.360
<v Speaker 2>like American scientists there. It was Raytheon scientists at these labs, procuring,

2685
02:27:34.520 --> 02:27:39.280
<v Speaker 2>arranging for transport, warehousing and issuing equipment and supplies, operating

2686
02:27:39.319 --> 02:27:43.840
<v Speaker 2>and maintaining stations, research vessels, and numerous field camps. Arranging

2687
02:27:44.000 --> 02:27:48.600
<v Speaker 2>medical clearance and travel of parties, Managing transportation of passengers,

2688
02:27:48.639 --> 02:27:53.000
<v Speaker 2>and cargo arranging annual resupply and fuel of McMurdo by

2689
02:27:53.159 --> 02:27:56.879
<v Speaker 2>Military Sealift Command contract ships. McMurdo that was the name

2690
02:27:56.920 --> 02:28:01.239
<v Speaker 2>of the base, excuse me, providing marine terminal operations complying

2691
02:28:01.280 --> 02:28:05.559
<v Speaker 2>with safety, health and environmental requirements. Ratheon Polar Services operates

2692
02:28:05.600 --> 02:28:10.079
<v Speaker 2>the Antarctic Fire Department as well. So real quick, can

2693
02:28:10.120 --> 02:28:13.799
<v Speaker 2>you name one aspect of a research lab that wasn't

2694
02:28:13.840 --> 02:28:20.239
<v Speaker 2>covered just now? Pretty much everything from the transportation, the

2695
02:28:20.280 --> 02:28:25.559
<v Speaker 2>supply of materials, the scientists themselves, the fire department, all

2696
02:28:25.559 --> 02:28:29.159
<v Speaker 2>of this was ran by Raytheon. So whenever you'll see

2697
02:28:29.159 --> 02:28:32.639
<v Speaker 2>certain people say Raytheon doesn't actually run McMurdo Bay, they

2698
02:28:32.760 --> 02:28:35.719
<v Speaker 2>ran every aspect of it. They may not have owned

2699
02:28:35.799 --> 02:28:39.639
<v Speaker 2>the base, but they were the entire manpower and body

2700
02:28:39.680 --> 02:28:41.600
<v Speaker 2>of it. So take that for what it is.

2701
02:28:42.760 --> 02:28:44.399
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty crazy, to be honest with you.

2702
02:28:44.920 --> 02:28:47.879
<v Speaker 2>So now let's talk about the criticism which leads to

2703
02:28:48.479 --> 02:28:51.639
<v Speaker 2>the first and to my knowledge, only confirmed murder to

2704
02:28:51.799 --> 02:28:55.559
<v Speaker 2>ever take place on Antarctica. Raitheon Polar Services Company has

2705
02:28:55.600 --> 02:28:58.399
<v Speaker 2>been criticized for failing to cooperate fully in New Zealand's

2706
02:28:58.399 --> 02:29:03.360
<v Speaker 2>investigation of Rodney death. Marx died in two thousand from

2707
02:29:03.600 --> 02:29:09.200
<v Speaker 2>methanol poisoning while working at the Audmundson Scott South Pole Station.

2708
02:29:10.040 --> 02:29:13.920
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand Police and the coroner, Richard mcgerla said Raytheon

2709
02:29:14.000 --> 02:29:16.559
<v Speaker 2>and the National Science Foundation failed to provide full and

2710
02:29:16.639 --> 02:29:19.959
<v Speaker 2>prompt information to the authorities. New Zealand Police believed there

2711
02:29:20.079 --> 02:29:22.719
<v Speaker 2>was a private US investigation into the death, which the

2712
02:29:22.840 --> 02:29:26.760
<v Speaker 2>US organizations refused to disclose. In two thousand and seven,

2713
02:29:26.840 --> 02:29:29.920
<v Speaker 2>two employees of Raytheon had been evacuated from the South

2714
02:29:29.959 --> 02:29:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Pole station after one broke the other's jaw in a

2715
02:29:32.799 --> 02:29:37.840
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote drunken Christmas punch up. So so yeah.

2716
02:29:37.920 --> 02:29:42.600
<v Speaker 3>The symptoms are headache, dizziness, nausea, nausea, vomiting, lack of coordination,

2717
02:29:42.719 --> 02:29:46.879
<v Speaker 3>confusion more severe will develop later, blurred vision, abdominal pain,

2718
02:29:47.040 --> 02:29:48.120
<v Speaker 3>blindness or death.

2719
02:29:48.680 --> 02:29:52.079
<v Speaker 2>And let's talk now about Rodney Marx and his symptoms.

2720
02:29:52.399 --> 02:29:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Sir Rodney mars He died the twelfth of May two thousand.

2721
02:29:56.440 --> 02:29:59.760
<v Speaker 2>He was an Australian astrophysicist who died from methanol poisoning

2722
02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>working in Antarctica. So his career, you know, he had

2723
02:30:04.680 --> 02:30:08.559
<v Speaker 2>a very stoic career as far as an astrophysicist concerned

2724
02:30:08.639 --> 02:30:12.719
<v Speaker 2>cool cool going on here, It says I Munson. Scott

2725
02:30:12.760 --> 02:30:15.879
<v Speaker 2>Pole Station is run by the National Science Foundation, a

2726
02:30:15.959 --> 02:30:18.639
<v Speaker 2>United States government agency, although much work at the time

2727
02:30:18.799 --> 02:30:23.559
<v Speaker 2>was subcontracted to Raytheon's Polar Services company. So his death

2728
02:30:24.159 --> 02:30:27.879
<v Speaker 2>on May the eleventh, two thousand, Rodney Marks became unwell

2729
02:30:27.920 --> 02:30:31.239
<v Speaker 2>while walking between the remote observatory and the base. He

2730
02:30:31.280 --> 02:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>became increasingly sick over the next thirty six hour period,

2731
02:30:35.559 --> 02:30:39.959
<v Speaker 2>three times refusing increasingly distressed to the station's doctor. Advice

2732
02:30:40.040 --> 02:30:43.159
<v Speaker 2>was sought by satellite, but Mars died on the twelfth

2733
02:30:43.200 --> 02:30:47.440
<v Speaker 2>of May two thousand, aged thirty two, with his condition undiagnosed.

2734
02:30:47.760 --> 02:30:51.639
<v Speaker 2>The whereabouts of the station, doctor Robert Thompson, are unknown.

2735
02:30:52.239 --> 02:30:54.680
<v Speaker 2>So even the doctor who said that, oh man, you're

2736
02:30:54.719 --> 02:30:57.159
<v Speaker 2>not looking good, maybe we should he's gone. No one

2737
02:30:57.200 --> 02:31:00.239
<v Speaker 2>knows what happened to him after this, allegedly doctor too

2738
02:31:01.399 --> 02:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>or you know, he was never a doctor to begin with.

2739
02:31:03.319 --> 02:31:05.520
<v Speaker 2>He was a Raytheon employee, and he just kind of,

2740
02:31:05.600 --> 02:31:09.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, shuffle shuffled. The National Science Foundation issued a

2741
02:31:09.360 --> 02:31:12.600
<v Speaker 2>statement saying that Rodney Marx had quote apparently died of

2742
02:31:12.719 --> 02:31:16.360
<v Speaker 2>natural causes, but the specific cause of death had yet

2743
02:31:16.440 --> 02:31:20.319
<v Speaker 2>to be determined end quote. The exact cause of Marx's

2744
02:31:20.360 --> 02:31:22.719
<v Speaker 2>death could not be determined until his body was removed

2745
02:31:22.760 --> 02:31:25.840
<v Speaker 2>from Edmondson Scott Station and flown to the continent for

2746
02:31:25.920 --> 02:31:29.280
<v Speaker 2>autopsy or flown off the continent for autopsy. The case

2747
02:31:29.319 --> 02:31:32.879
<v Speaker 2>received media attention as the first South Pole murder, as

2748
02:31:32.920 --> 02:31:36.040
<v Speaker 2>suicide was considered the least likely cause of death. He

2749
02:31:36.200 --> 02:31:41.360
<v Speaker 2>was buried in Bellbreak Cemetery, Mount Dundane, Duneede, Victoria, Australia.

2750
02:31:41.479 --> 02:31:44.639
<v Speaker 2>Now let's talk about the investigation. Marx's body was held

2751
02:31:44.680 --> 02:31:47.360
<v Speaker 2>for nearly six months over winter before it could be

2752
02:31:47.360 --> 02:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>flown to Church christ Church, New Zealand, the base for

2753
02:31:50.479 --> 02:31:54.079
<v Speaker 2>the American activities in Antarctica, for autopsy. Once in New Zealand,

2754
02:31:54.079 --> 02:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>a post mortem established that Marx had died from methanol poisoning.

2755
02:31:57.639 --> 02:32:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Both the United States and Australia agreed to a Quarner's

2756
02:32:00.440 --> 02:32:04.239
<v Speaker 2>inquest being hailed in New Zealand. Jurisdiction issues in the

2757
02:32:04.280 --> 02:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Antarctic are complicated. Most American operations within Antarctica, including the

2758
02:32:08.479 --> 02:32:11.719
<v Speaker 2>South Pole Base, are within the Ross Dependency Territory claimed

2759
02:32:11.719 --> 02:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>by New Zealand, from where supplies are dispatched the US

2760
02:32:15.079 --> 02:32:18.360
<v Speaker 2>government does not accept New Zealand's claim to territorial sovereignty

2761
02:32:18.520 --> 02:32:21.639
<v Speaker 2>or the application of New Zealand's law to the United

2762
02:32:21.639 --> 02:32:25.959
<v Speaker 2>States citizens operating in Antarctica from the operation Deep Freez's

2763
02:32:26.040 --> 02:32:29.239
<v Speaker 2>christ Church base. New Zealand has not questioned the use

2764
02:32:29.319 --> 02:32:34.120
<v Speaker 2>of the US marshals in the in relation to crimes

2765
02:32:34.159 --> 02:32:38.280
<v Speaker 2>involving only Americans in the Ross dependency. An investigation was

2766
02:32:38.360 --> 02:32:44.479
<v Speaker 2>undertaken by Senior Detective Grant walmart war mould YEP of

2767
02:32:44.559 --> 02:32:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the New Zealand Police and the direction of Richard McLaren

2768
02:32:47.879 --> 02:32:50.879
<v Speaker 2>of the christ Church Corner. A formal verdict has not

2769
02:32:51.159 --> 02:32:53.559
<v Speaker 2>or has yet to be entered. A two thousand and

2770
02:32:53.600 --> 02:32:56.600
<v Speaker 2>six series of coroners court hearings and statements to the

2771
02:32:56.639 --> 02:32:59.520
<v Speaker 2>media raised questions from both the police and the Corners

2772
02:32:59.879 --> 02:33:04.600
<v Speaker 2>of Mark's poisoning was intentional. The DSS Warmald said, in

2773
02:33:04.639 --> 02:33:08.600
<v Speaker 2>my view, it as most most likely Mars ingested methanol unknowingly.

2774
02:33:09.159 --> 02:33:13.399
<v Speaker 2>M methanol is not something that you're gonna think is liquor.

2775
02:33:14.520 --> 02:33:17.280
<v Speaker 3>It's you know, take a random shot of it, I

2776
02:33:17.280 --> 02:33:19.959
<v Speaker 3>guess it's liquid natural gas LNG.

2777
02:33:21.120 --> 02:33:25.680
<v Speaker 2>That's not something that you're gonna like accidentally drink. That's

2778
02:33:25.719 --> 02:33:29.239
<v Speaker 2>that's ridiculous to me. So, yeah, it would obviously be unknowingly.

2779
02:33:29.000 --> 02:33:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Or or is injected into his veins.

2780
02:33:32.879 --> 02:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>There I have no there's no record of that being

2781
02:33:35.840 --> 02:33:39.200
<v Speaker 2>the case, but that could be. But if his stomach

2782
02:33:39.280 --> 02:33:41.719
<v Speaker 2>was pumped and they found that he clearly ingested, that's

2783
02:33:41.760 --> 02:33:45.399
<v Speaker 2>like drinking gasoline. Like it's there's there's no way you're

2784
02:33:45.399 --> 02:33:48.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna accidentally not know that this isn't liquor or something.

2785
02:33:49.120 --> 02:33:52.639
<v Speaker 2>But either way, Warmalt said it it was not credible

2786
02:33:52.639 --> 02:33:55.079
<v Speaker 2>to believe that he had deliberately drunk the methanol when

2787
02:33:55.120 --> 02:33:58.000
<v Speaker 2>he had read he had ready access to a large

2788
02:33:58.000 --> 02:34:01.559
<v Speaker 2>supply of alcohol, Marx had recently entered a new relationship,

2789
02:34:01.600 --> 02:34:05.479
<v Speaker 2>had nearly completed important academic work, and had no financial problems.

2790
02:34:05.840 --> 02:34:08.440
<v Speaker 2>He had promptly sought treatment for an illness that confused him,

2791
02:34:08.479 --> 02:34:12.959
<v Speaker 2>and there was no reason to suspect suicidal intent. Wormald

2792
02:34:13.040 --> 02:34:16.440
<v Speaker 2>indicated that Raytheon in the National Science Foundation had not

2793
02:34:16.559 --> 02:34:21.399
<v Speaker 2>been cooperative. I find that very interesting, Wormald stated, regarding

2794
02:34:21.399 --> 02:34:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the NSF conclusion that Mark's death was from natural causes,

2795
02:34:25.239 --> 02:34:28.200
<v Speaker 2>that's bullshit. We One of the results of the NSF

2796
02:34:28.360 --> 02:34:31.559
<v Speaker 2>internal investigation and to get in contact with the people

2797
02:34:31.559 --> 02:34:34.120
<v Speaker 2>who were there to ask them some questions. They weren't

2798
02:34:34.159 --> 02:34:37.200
<v Speaker 2>prepared to tell us who they were. They have advised

2799
02:34:37.239 --> 02:34:39.920
<v Speaker 2>that no report exists, and to be frank, I think

2800
02:34:39.959 --> 02:34:42.799
<v Speaker 2>there is more there. There must be, he said. I

2801
02:34:42.840 --> 02:34:47.280
<v Speaker 2>am not entirely satisfied at all relevant information or I'm sorry,

2802
02:34:47.319 --> 02:34:49.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not satisfied that all relevant information and reports have

2803
02:34:49.799 --> 02:34:52.440
<v Speaker 2>been disclosed to the New Zealand Police or to the corner.

2804
02:34:53.200 --> 02:34:56.399
<v Speaker 2>Having obtained details of the other forty nine people at

2805
02:34:56.399 --> 02:34:58.920
<v Speaker 2>the base at the time, Wormald told a newspaper, I

2806
02:34:58.959 --> 02:35:01.520
<v Speaker 2>suspect that there have been people who have thought twice

2807
02:35:01.559 --> 02:35:03.719
<v Speaker 2>about making contact with us on the basis of their

2808
02:35:03.760 --> 02:35:07.920
<v Speaker 2>future employment position. The US Department of Justice also failed

2809
02:35:07.959 --> 02:35:11.479
<v Speaker 2>to obtain answers from the two organizers or organizations which

2810
02:35:11.479 --> 02:35:14.959
<v Speaker 2>appear to have denied jurisdiction. In December of two thousand

2811
02:35:14.959 --> 02:35:20.479
<v Speaker 2>and six, the christ Course christ Church Coroner Jesus reconvened

2812
02:35:20.520 --> 02:35:23.479
<v Speaker 2>the investigation, the results of which were widely reported. The

2813
02:35:23.520 --> 02:35:31.440
<v Speaker 2>coroner's hearing in christ Church was then adjourned indefinitely, indefinitely indefinitely.

2814
02:35:31.879 --> 02:35:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Mark's father thanked the New Zealand Police, who he said

2815
02:35:34.680 --> 02:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>faced an arduous task of dealing with people that quite

2816
02:35:37.399 --> 02:35:40.200
<v Speaker 2>obviously don't want to deal with them. In two thousand

2817
02:35:40.200 --> 02:35:43.639
<v Speaker 2>and seven, seven years after the deaths the death the

2818
02:35:43.719 --> 02:35:46.200
<v Speaker 2>case was again front page news in New Zealand when

2819
02:35:46.280 --> 02:35:50.840
<v Speaker 2>documents obtained under America's Freedom of Information Act suggest diplomatic

2820
02:35:50.920 --> 02:35:54.399
<v Speaker 2>heat was brought to bear on the New Zealand inquiry.

2821
02:35:54.920 --> 02:35:56.959
<v Speaker 2>In September of two thousand and eight, the written report,

2822
02:35:57.079 --> 02:36:00.840
<v Speaker 2>all resulting from the December six inquest was released. The

2823
02:36:00.920 --> 02:36:03.479
<v Speaker 2>corner could not find evidence to support theories of a

2824
02:36:03.479 --> 02:36:07.799
<v Speaker 2>prank gone awry, nor foul play, nor suicide. The cause

2825
02:36:07.799 --> 02:36:10.360
<v Speaker 2>of the fatal methanol poisoning has never been determined, and

2826
02:36:10.399 --> 02:36:13.079
<v Speaker 2>the Marx family has given up hope of learning what happened.

2827
02:36:14.280 --> 02:36:16.120
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, this.

2828
02:36:16.079 --> 02:36:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Is that's a wild story. Especially, did not have any

2829
02:36:20.280 --> 02:36:21.639
<v Speaker 3>kind of closure to it.

2830
02:36:21.879 --> 02:36:24.879
<v Speaker 2>And why wouldn't Raytheon be like, hey, y'all, yeah, this

2831
02:36:24.959 --> 02:36:27.840
<v Speaker 2>happened to our site. Here's what happened, if nothing else,

2832
02:36:27.840 --> 02:36:31.559
<v Speaker 2>to clear their name of all of this shit. But again,

2833
02:36:31.680 --> 02:36:37.959
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twelve, allegedly Raytheon quit their their Antarctic ties

2834
02:36:39.239 --> 02:36:41.159
<v Speaker 2>just a few years after all this came to light,

2835
02:36:42.040 --> 02:36:46.600
<v Speaker 2>just looked real bad on them. But anyway, so now

2836
02:36:47.360 --> 02:36:51.360
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about the giant hole, the giant hole aka

2837
02:36:52.040 --> 02:36:55.440
<v Speaker 2>your mom in Antarctica, and let's learn about it more together,

2838
02:36:55.639 --> 02:36:58.440
<v Speaker 2>shall all night? I really have I have this all night?

2839
02:36:58.520 --> 02:37:01.920
<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, just I mean, it's just one of

2840
02:37:01.920 --> 02:37:06.079
<v Speaker 2>those oldie but goody jokes. You know, it's just as timeless. Anyway,

2841
02:37:06.159 --> 02:37:08.120
<v Speaker 2>let's get into it here. This is from Live Science.

2842
02:37:08.440 --> 02:37:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Researchers have proposed many origins for a gravity anomaly in

2843
02:37:13.120 --> 02:37:17.120
<v Speaker 2>Wilkes Lake, East Antarctica, but the latest evidence suggests subglacial

2844
02:37:17.159 --> 02:37:20.479
<v Speaker 2>hole is an impact crater measuring three hundred and fifteen

2845
02:37:20.639 --> 02:37:21.760
<v Speaker 2>miles across.

2846
02:37:21.920 --> 02:37:22.520
<v Speaker 3>That's huge.

2847
02:37:23.000 --> 02:37:27.239
<v Speaker 2>That is massive, Like they said, it's the size of Ireland.

2848
02:37:28.000 --> 02:37:31.319
<v Speaker 2>So anyway. The Wilkes Lake Crater is a hole in

2849
02:37:31.360 --> 02:37:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the bedrock beneath East Antarctica's ice sheet, measuring three hundred

2850
02:37:34.280 --> 02:37:37.159
<v Speaker 2>and fifteen miles across. Researchers have been trying to explain

2851
02:37:37.200 --> 02:37:40.520
<v Speaker 2>its existence since the nineteen sixties, and the most recent

2852
02:37:40.520 --> 02:37:45.399
<v Speaker 2>evidence suggests it was born from a cataclysmic meteorite impact.

2853
02:37:46.000 --> 02:37:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Another one, another one, absolutely, the Mars Rock.

2854
02:37:49.879 --> 02:37:53.319
<v Speaker 3>It's Mars Rock. Maybe that's where they're getting the samples from.

2855
02:37:53.840 --> 02:37:56.000
<v Speaker 2>The crater was first detected as a huge dent in

2856
02:37:56.040 --> 02:37:59.959
<v Speaker 2>the Earth's gravitational field. A huge dentt in the Earth's

2857
02:38:00.079 --> 02:38:03.959
<v Speaker 2>gravitational field. But somehow it's from a media A huge

2858
02:38:04.079 --> 02:38:07.280
<v Speaker 2>dent like that's that's kind of a bit of a misnomber,

2859
02:38:07.319 --> 02:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>isn't it? Like if the metior caused the hole, why

2860
02:38:12.120 --> 02:38:17.879
<v Speaker 2>is there gravity deforming around it? I don't know, I'm

2861
02:38:17.920 --> 02:38:21.799
<v Speaker 2>just saying away. Initial ground based seismic and gravity surveys

2862
02:38:21.840 --> 02:38:24.559
<v Speaker 2>already indicated that the crater was huge, around one hundred

2863
02:38:24.600 --> 02:38:27.360
<v Speaker 2>and fifty miles across, but newer techniques revealed that it's

2864
02:38:27.440 --> 02:38:30.600
<v Speaker 2>likely more than double this size. According to the twenty

2865
02:38:30.680 --> 02:38:33.639
<v Speaker 2>eighteen study, the wilkes Land Crater sits around about one

2866
02:38:33.680 --> 02:38:37.079
<v Speaker 2>mile beneath the surface of Antarctica's ice sheet. The study

2867
02:38:37.120 --> 02:38:39.319
<v Speaker 2>showed the crater in more detail than ever before and

2868
02:38:39.399 --> 02:38:43.079
<v Speaker 2>examined its potential link with Southern Australia, which was connected

2869
02:38:43.120 --> 02:38:47.440
<v Speaker 2>to East Antarctica until around thirty five million years ago.

2870
02:38:47.879 --> 02:38:50.920
<v Speaker 2>While the origin of the crater remains uncertain, the results

2871
02:38:50.920 --> 02:38:53.680
<v Speaker 2>of the study suggests that the event that created the

2872
02:38:53.680 --> 02:38:58.239
<v Speaker 2>whole likely occurred before the continents separated. Wow, so pre

2873
02:38:58.280 --> 02:39:00.399
<v Speaker 2>Pangaea five million.

2874
02:39:00.479 --> 02:39:00.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

2875
02:39:00.840 --> 02:39:04.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Researchers have proposed several explanations for the wilkes Land crater,

2876
02:39:04.879 --> 02:39:08.840
<v Speaker 2>including that it could be a volcanic structure, a sedimentary base,

2877
02:39:09.280 --> 02:39:13.239
<v Speaker 2>a deeply eroded valley, or a meteor impact crater, according

2878
02:39:13.239 --> 02:39:16.159
<v Speaker 2>to a twenty fifteen paper. For that paper, scientists use

2879
02:39:16.200 --> 02:39:19.040
<v Speaker 2>satellite remote sensing techniques to map the crater and determine

2880
02:39:19.040 --> 02:39:21.600
<v Speaker 2>its physical characteristics. In the middle of the hole in

2881
02:39:21.639 --> 02:39:25.520
<v Speaker 2>the Earth's gravitational field, known as a negative gravity anomaly,

2882
02:39:26.000 --> 02:39:28.959
<v Speaker 2>they found a positive gravity anomaly, with the ice sheet

2883
02:39:29.040 --> 02:39:32.239
<v Speaker 2>filling the gap around the central peak like a huge

2884
02:39:32.440 --> 02:39:33.319
<v Speaker 2>frosty doughnut.

2885
02:39:34.600 --> 02:39:35.840
<v Speaker 3>It's so crazy to me.

2886
02:39:36.479 --> 02:39:40.360
<v Speaker 2>That makes no sense. A giant hole the size of

2887
02:39:40.399 --> 02:39:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Ireland and they still have no idea what caused it.

2888
02:39:44.799 --> 02:39:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I figured, yeah, I mean maybe.

2889
02:39:47.760 --> 02:39:52.559
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's a that's like the Bascoliss basilisk. Yeah, and

2890
02:39:52.639 --> 02:39:55.520
<v Speaker 3>Harry Potter how it moves to the walls except i e.

2891
02:39:55.879 --> 02:39:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Moving through Antarctica.

2892
02:39:57.959 --> 02:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean maybe, But I feel like if it was

2893
02:40:00.200 --> 02:40:06.319
<v Speaker 2>meteor they be able to skin it right, and especially

2894
02:40:06.319 --> 02:40:08.159
<v Speaker 2>if it was that large. I mean, I understand it

2895
02:40:08.200 --> 02:40:10.799
<v Speaker 2>would be kind of eroded by now or whatever. But

2896
02:40:10.840 --> 02:40:13.200
<v Speaker 2>they have told us so much in these articles we've

2897
02:40:13.200 --> 02:40:17.760
<v Speaker 2>read about how Antarctica is like a time capsule and ice.

2898
02:40:18.040 --> 02:40:18.479
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

2899
02:40:18.799 --> 02:40:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it keeps everything, even down to micro organisms, so nothing.

2900
02:40:23.360 --> 02:40:26.079
<v Speaker 2>So they can't find the meteorite itself, not.

2901
02:40:26.520 --> 02:40:29.000
<v Speaker 3>One single shred of evidence.

2902
02:40:29.680 --> 02:40:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wild. The central peak is likely a structure known

2903
02:40:33.040 --> 02:40:36.239
<v Speaker 2>as a mass concentration or a mas con. According to

2904
02:40:36.239 --> 02:40:40.200
<v Speaker 2>the study, mas cons can occur within meteor impact structures

2905
02:40:40.280 --> 02:40:43.040
<v Speaker 2>due to the meteor crashing through Earth's crust and affecting

2906
02:40:43.040 --> 02:40:46.399
<v Speaker 2>the mantle beneath. Following the impact, the mantle may recoil

2907
02:40:46.479 --> 02:40:49.920
<v Speaker 2>and form a dense plug also like your mom, resulting

2908
02:40:49.959 --> 02:40:53.719
<v Speaker 2>in a positive gravity anomaly. The study authors wrote, the

2909
02:40:53.719 --> 02:40:56.760
<v Speaker 2>wilkes Land Crater is a mask and its mass con

2910
02:40:56.920 --> 02:41:01.399
<v Speaker 2>aren't perfectly circular and instead form a us. According to

2911
02:41:01.719 --> 02:41:06.000
<v Speaker 2>the twenty eighteen study, whose results support the conclusion that

2912
02:41:06.040 --> 02:41:09.040
<v Speaker 2>the crater was caused by a meteor impact, the northern

2913
02:41:09.079 --> 02:41:11.760
<v Speaker 2>side of the crater is fragmented, perhaps as a result

2914
02:41:11.799 --> 02:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>of tectonic processes that ripped Australia and Antarctica apart. The

2915
02:41:16.040 --> 02:41:18.719
<v Speaker 2>author noted parts of the crater are clearly visible in

2916
02:41:18.879 --> 02:41:23.680
<v Speaker 2>southern Australia. They added, Wow, wow, let's see if the

2917
02:41:23.680 --> 02:41:26.479
<v Speaker 2>wilkes Land Crater is an impact crater, then it would

2918
02:41:26.520 --> 02:41:29.799
<v Speaker 2>be the greatest impact crater known on Earth in terms

2919
02:41:29.799 --> 02:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>of its size. In twenty fifteen, a study researchers found

2920
02:41:34.280 --> 02:41:36.959
<v Speaker 2>that the crater's diameter matches the speed and size of

2921
02:41:37.000 --> 02:41:40.319
<v Speaker 2>space rocks that regularly crashed into Earth during its early

2922
02:41:40.440 --> 02:41:43.120
<v Speaker 2>history between four point one billion and three point eight

2923
02:41:43.200 --> 02:41:46.520
<v Speaker 2>billion years ago. Okay, but that's a wide gap. So

2924
02:41:46.559 --> 02:41:49.920
<v Speaker 2>we're talking somewhere between three billion, give or take four

2925
02:41:50.000 --> 02:41:52.399
<v Speaker 2>billion years ago and thirty five million years ago.

2926
02:41:53.040 --> 02:41:54.879
<v Speaker 3>No, no, it says billion, no, no.

2927
02:41:54.760 --> 02:41:56.479
<v Speaker 2>No, I understand that. But they're also saying that this

2928
02:41:56.639 --> 02:42:00.440
<v Speaker 2>impact likely happened before Pangaea, and they're suspecting thirty five

2929
02:42:00.440 --> 02:42:01.120
<v Speaker 2>million years ago.

2930
02:42:01.760 --> 02:42:04.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's a huge gap.

2931
02:42:04.280 --> 02:42:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Like I wish I could give people a good size

2932
02:42:07.120 --> 02:42:11.000
<v Speaker 2>comparison to that, But that's insane. Thirty five million as

2933
02:42:11.040 --> 02:42:12.440
<v Speaker 2>compared to four billion.

2934
02:42:14.120 --> 02:42:16.079
<v Speaker 3>It just seems odd to me, especially the.

2935
02:42:16.079 --> 02:42:20.399
<v Speaker 2>U shape it does. Indeed, it absolutely does. So you know,

2936
02:42:20.559 --> 02:42:22.639
<v Speaker 2>from that article, we're gonna go over to the next

2937
02:42:22.639 --> 02:42:26.520
<v Speaker 2>one to talk about this. The Side Tech Daily mysterious

2938
02:42:26.600 --> 02:42:33.040
<v Speaker 2>polynia paullinia. Scientists finally explained huge hole in Antarctic sea ice.

2939
02:42:33.920 --> 02:42:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully they give us a little bit more clarification on this.

2940
02:42:36.280 --> 02:42:40.639
<v Speaker 2>This was published in twenty twenty four. A recent study

2941
02:42:40.639 --> 02:42:43.680
<v Speaker 2>explains the formation of a large Antarctic sea ice opening

2942
02:42:43.879 --> 02:42:47.680
<v Speaker 2>by detailing the oceanic and atmospheric interactions that caused it.

2943
02:42:48.040 --> 02:42:50.639
<v Speaker 2>Researchers have discovered the missing piece of the puzzle behind

2944
02:42:50.799 --> 02:42:54.159
<v Speaker 2>a rare opening in the sea ice around Antarctica, which

2945
02:42:54.200 --> 02:42:57.360
<v Speaker 2>was nearly twice the size of whales and occurred during

2946
02:42:57.360 --> 02:42:59.799
<v Speaker 2>the winters of twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen.

2947
02:43:01.799 --> 02:43:03.280
<v Speaker 3>May die, are we talking about the same one?

2948
02:43:03.479 --> 02:43:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe. So they're talking about a giant hole

2949
02:43:06.120 --> 02:43:07.719
<v Speaker 2>in the ice in the ocean.

2950
02:43:08.879 --> 02:43:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh, okay, so we have another hole that popped up.

2951
02:43:12.479 --> 02:43:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Around the same time. There were the radio pulses were happening,

2952
02:43:16.920 --> 02:43:17.440
<v Speaker 2>all right?

2953
02:43:17.719 --> 02:43:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

2954
02:43:18.959 --> 02:43:21.760
<v Speaker 2>A study published on May one, the twenty twenty four

2955
02:43:21.959 --> 02:43:25.440
<v Speaker 2>in Science Advances reveals a key process that has eluded

2956
02:43:25.479 --> 02:43:28.840
<v Speaker 2>scientists as to how the opening called a pollinia was

2957
02:43:28.920 --> 02:43:32.120
<v Speaker 2>able to form and persist for several weeks. The team

2958
02:43:32.200 --> 02:43:34.959
<v Speaker 2>of researchers from the University of Southampton and the University

2959
02:43:35.000 --> 02:43:37.760
<v Speaker 2>of Gothenburg. In the University of California, San Diego, studied

2960
02:43:37.760 --> 02:43:41.879
<v Speaker 2>the mad Rise polynia the mod as in right by

2961
02:43:41.959 --> 02:43:46.360
<v Speaker 2>where the Nazis had their base setup, okay, named after

2962
02:43:46.399 --> 02:43:49.639
<v Speaker 2>the submerged mountain like features in the Wettell Sea over

2963
02:43:49.680 --> 02:43:52.799
<v Speaker 2>which it grows. They found the pollinia was brought on

2964
02:43:52.920 --> 02:43:55.600
<v Speaker 2>by complex interactions between the wind ocean current and the

2965
02:43:55.680 --> 02:43:59.440
<v Speaker 2>unique geography of the ocean floor, transporting heat and salt

2966
02:43:59.600 --> 02:44:03.000
<v Speaker 2>towards the surface. That quick, that quick, that's the hole

2967
02:44:03.879 --> 02:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>that okay, you know.

2968
02:44:06.600 --> 02:44:09.479
<v Speaker 3>That was coupled with the stairs and the doorway and

2969
02:44:09.520 --> 02:44:15.000
<v Speaker 3>everything that they've seen, plus the quote unquote not pyramid, right,

2970
02:44:15.239 --> 02:44:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I've seen maybe mister Fuller had it, had the idea

2971
02:44:18.959 --> 02:44:22.280
<v Speaker 3>that we had the cloaking technology, what if something was

2972
02:44:22.280 --> 02:44:23.280
<v Speaker 3>coming out of those holes.

2973
02:44:23.520 --> 02:44:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Not to mention there's tons of UFO sidings in and

2974
02:44:27.200 --> 02:44:30.959
<v Speaker 2>around Antarctica, tons, especially in the last few years. There

2975
02:44:31.000 --> 02:44:33.159
<v Speaker 2>was that one where they saw all of these tic

2976
02:44:33.200 --> 02:44:35.399
<v Speaker 2>TACs flying over Antarctica.

2977
02:44:35.920 --> 02:44:38.280
<v Speaker 3>It would make a lot of sense, you know, if

2978
02:44:38.280 --> 02:44:41.440
<v Speaker 3>they decided to come up and they're doing their own exploration,

2979
02:44:41.639 --> 02:44:45.040
<v Speaker 3>or they're going back to space wherever they're from and they,

2980
02:44:45.200 --> 02:44:49.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, decided to make a little tribute you. It

2981
02:44:49.120 --> 02:44:51.079
<v Speaker 3>would make more sense that this happens.

2982
02:44:51.959 --> 02:44:55.200
<v Speaker 2>It really would to me. They're going to talk about

2983
02:44:55.200 --> 02:44:58.680
<v Speaker 2>how this was a naturally forming hole that opened up

2984
02:44:58.680 --> 02:45:00.520
<v Speaker 2>in the ice. I gotta be on honest with you,

2985
02:45:00.639 --> 02:45:01.319
<v Speaker 2>that's bullshit.

2986
02:45:02.239 --> 02:45:06.840
<v Speaker 3>There's no way coincidences because coincidences.

2987
02:45:05.920 --> 02:45:09.239
<v Speaker 2>We totally have those that happen all the time and crazy.

2988
02:45:09.760 --> 02:45:13.360
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, all right, I wish we would have had

2989
02:45:13.360 --> 02:45:15.399
<v Speaker 2>an article to talk about the stairs.

2990
02:45:15.399 --> 02:45:18.760
<v Speaker 3>Right, but yeah, the stairs. You can see in the

2991
02:45:18.840 --> 02:45:20.840
<v Speaker 3>video that we talked about that we've shown a couple

2992
02:45:20.959 --> 02:45:23.799
<v Speaker 3>times with both episodes, it does show a photo of it.

2993
02:45:23.799 --> 02:45:26.799
<v Speaker 3>It shows two different photos in the beginning when it's

2994
02:45:26.799 --> 02:45:29.959
<v Speaker 3>talking about the different things that the people have talked about.

2995
02:45:30.280 --> 02:45:33.159
<v Speaker 3>You can't actually look up the photos yourself. They get

2996
02:45:33.159 --> 02:45:36.040
<v Speaker 3>dispelled really quickly. People are just like, ah, that's fake,

2997
02:45:36.159 --> 02:45:38.680
<v Speaker 3>it's just a random thing. I will say that the

2998
02:45:38.680 --> 02:45:42.760
<v Speaker 3>one photo does in fact really look like human made

2999
02:45:42.799 --> 02:45:45.719
<v Speaker 3>stare not human, maide. Honestly, it looks like giants mediums.

3000
02:45:45.840 --> 02:45:49.239
<v Speaker 3>They're so made, yeah, purposely made. They're so huge.

3001
02:45:49.879 --> 02:45:54.520
<v Speaker 2>So that being said, the ones that I've seen as

3002
02:45:54.520 --> 02:45:57.559
<v Speaker 2>far as the stairs go. Sure some of them AI,

3003
02:45:58.200 --> 02:46:02.399
<v Speaker 2>I get that, I totally do. There are others, and

3004
02:46:02.399 --> 02:46:05.120
<v Speaker 2>not just one. There's more than a couple that have.

3005
02:46:07.360 --> 02:46:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's just say they popped up on the maps and

3006
02:46:10.799 --> 02:46:14.200
<v Speaker 2>then the next day we're gone. And those were verified

3007
02:46:14.280 --> 02:46:18.079
<v Speaker 2>images from not just Google Maps, but satellite images. And

3008
02:46:18.559 --> 02:46:20.959
<v Speaker 2>for that to happen, basically a thing pops up and

3009
02:46:21.000 --> 02:46:23.600
<v Speaker 2>then the next day the satellites note a photoshop that out.

3010
02:46:24.799 --> 02:46:26.879
<v Speaker 2>And keep in mind, you're not allowed to go and

3011
02:46:26.920 --> 02:46:29.799
<v Speaker 2>explore Antarctica on your own, because that would be crazy.

3012
02:46:30.000 --> 02:46:33.799
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember the common theory going around a few

3013
02:46:33.879 --> 02:46:37.120
<v Speaker 3>years ago that the Google Maps didn't have the full

3014
02:46:37.200 --> 02:46:41.079
<v Speaker 3>map of Antarctica. And I've looked at it before where

3015
02:46:41.120 --> 02:46:43.120
<v Speaker 3>you couldn't see the one side of it, like the

3016
02:46:43.200 --> 02:46:45.280
<v Speaker 3>darker side of it. Right now you can see the

3017
02:46:45.319 --> 02:46:47.520
<v Speaker 3>whole thing, and if you like zoom out on Google Map,

3018
02:46:47.559 --> 02:46:50.239
<v Speaker 3>you'll like you can rotate the Earth around and it'll

3019
02:46:50.280 --> 02:46:53.079
<v Speaker 3>show you like the different angles. They said it was

3020
02:46:53.159 --> 02:46:56.360
<v Speaker 3>because I read an article years ago that was talking

3021
02:46:56.360 --> 02:46:58.959
<v Speaker 3>about why they couldn't get the photos was because they

3022
02:46:59.000 --> 02:47:03.159
<v Speaker 3>didn't have the technolog to take the said photos around it,

3023
02:47:03.719 --> 02:47:07.040
<v Speaker 3>and that it was in dark places that were very

3024
02:47:07.040 --> 02:47:09.280
<v Speaker 3>difficult for them to get photos, but didn't. We just

3025
02:47:09.360 --> 02:47:13.680
<v Speaker 3>read that they went when early nineteen fifties or something

3026
02:47:13.760 --> 02:47:18.719
<v Speaker 3>like that, where they were taking seventy thousand photos the forty.

3027
02:47:18.440 --> 02:47:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Foe from a plane and somehow satellite can't do it

3028
02:47:21.799 --> 02:47:27.079
<v Speaker 2>when Antarctica experiences a twenty four hour sun and the helicopters.

3029
02:47:26.319 --> 02:47:28.879
<v Speaker 3>That were all there. So you're saying that you couldn't

3030
02:47:28.920 --> 02:47:32.840
<v Speaker 3>take photos, But because enough people bitched about it, like

3031
02:47:33.000 --> 02:47:36.360
<v Speaker 3>it was like the biggest thing that people can constantly said, well,

3032
02:47:36.360 --> 02:47:38.799
<v Speaker 3>why can't we see this part of Antarctica? Why can't

3033
02:47:38.799 --> 02:47:41.200
<v Speaker 3>we see this part? What are you hiding down there?

3034
02:47:41.559 --> 02:47:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Suddenly out of nowhere? Then you just have the whole picture, right,

3035
02:47:45.879 --> 02:47:48.559
<v Speaker 3>and then that ties in with the stairs and ties

3036
02:47:48.600 --> 02:47:50.719
<v Speaker 3>in with the holes, and it ties in with all

3037
02:47:50.719 --> 02:47:53.920
<v Speaker 3>the other pictures that people have zoomed in and seen things,

3038
02:47:53.920 --> 02:47:56.639
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, that just doesn't make sense logically, and

3039
02:47:56.680 --> 02:47:59.920
<v Speaker 3>they're like, but we can't explore it though. That's the thing.

3040
02:48:00.440 --> 02:48:02.200
<v Speaker 3>So many of the comments have been made in the

3041
02:48:02.360 --> 02:48:05.840
<v Speaker 3>articles that there's vast amounts of Antarctica that we can't

3042
02:48:05.879 --> 02:48:09.600
<v Speaker 3>explore right now, that they can't it's just they can't

3043
02:48:09.600 --> 02:48:11.600
<v Speaker 3>even get to it, so.

3044
02:48:11.959 --> 02:48:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Kind of hard time believing that.

3045
02:48:13.399 --> 02:48:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So, I mean, we read how many articles in

3046
02:48:16.559 --> 02:48:18.879
<v Speaker 3>the research it's said that there are so many places

3047
02:48:18.879 --> 02:48:22.120
<v Speaker 3>where they couldn't get to, that there's large plots of

3048
02:48:22.200 --> 02:48:24.479
<v Speaker 3>land that they've never even been to, and that some

3049
02:48:24.559 --> 02:48:27.120
<v Speaker 3>of the teams take weeks and weeks and weeks to

3050
02:48:27.200 --> 02:48:30.799
<v Speaker 3>even reach a place right for a certain amount of time.

3051
02:48:30.799 --> 02:48:32.639
<v Speaker 3>They have to hike in with all this gear though.

3052
02:48:32.920 --> 02:48:34.760
<v Speaker 3>That's what's some of the things that don't make sense

3053
02:48:34.799 --> 02:48:36.600
<v Speaker 3>to me, is some of the locations that they go to.

3054
02:48:36.959 --> 02:48:39.639
<v Speaker 3>They're hiking in with all of this gear, setting up

3055
02:48:39.639 --> 02:48:42.399
<v Speaker 3>these temporary places, taking all of these samples and all

3056
02:48:42.479 --> 02:48:45.840
<v Speaker 3>this stuff, and then having to hike back out in

3057
02:48:46.200 --> 02:48:48.319
<v Speaker 3>hopes that they don't fall in the cracks so they

3058
02:48:48.319 --> 02:48:50.520
<v Speaker 3>don't have the shifts and all of these things in

3059
02:48:50.559 --> 02:48:54.680
<v Speaker 3>the weather. But you're saying that you can't explore a

3060
02:48:54.879 --> 02:48:57.680
<v Speaker 3>large parts of Antarctica as well.

3061
02:48:58.040 --> 02:49:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Tom Crane was able to do that and explore Antarctica

3062
02:49:02.000 --> 02:49:05.600
<v Speaker 2>by dog sled dog set. Yeah, and they're saying that

3063
02:49:05.799 --> 02:49:11.280
<v Speaker 2>right now in twenty twenty five, we don't have the technology. No,

3064
02:49:11.360 --> 02:49:13.719
<v Speaker 2>we don't have the technology cruise out here, and I'm sorry,

3065
02:49:13.799 --> 02:49:15.319
<v Speaker 2>that's that's completely bullshit.

3066
02:49:16.120 --> 02:49:18.200
<v Speaker 3>So we don't have the technology to look for it.

3067
02:49:18.239 --> 02:49:20.719
<v Speaker 3>We all know that they don't want to dig for

3068
02:49:20.760 --> 02:49:23.639
<v Speaker 3>anything or do anything for the least tell forty eight.

3069
02:49:24.520 --> 02:49:28.840
<v Speaker 3>So it just doesn't add up. All the different things

3070
02:49:28.879 --> 02:49:30.799
<v Speaker 3>don't add up personally for me.

3071
02:49:31.319 --> 02:49:32.680
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't whatsoever.

3072
02:49:33.200 --> 02:49:36.520
<v Speaker 3>What there's even more stuff to cover, and all the

3073
02:49:36.559 --> 02:49:39.440
<v Speaker 3>different things we could we could probably just do episode

3074
02:49:39.479 --> 02:49:41.280
<v Speaker 3>after after episode.

3075
02:49:41.319 --> 02:49:42.399
<v Speaker 2>Wow, we really could.

3076
02:49:42.479 --> 02:49:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Words are hard tonight.

3077
02:49:44.000 --> 02:49:46.040
<v Speaker 2>We really could. And so we are going to wrap

3078
02:49:46.079 --> 02:49:48.760
<v Speaker 2>this episode on this article and this is from the

3079
02:49:48.799 --> 02:49:52.559
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica Cruises dot com. If anybody wants to go there,

3080
02:49:53.200 --> 02:49:55.959
<v Speaker 2>this is I love it. This is a thing. This

3081
02:49:56.040 --> 02:49:58.879
<v Speaker 2>is the thing that you can do. Antarctica's greatest mysteries

3082
02:49:58.920 --> 02:50:02.760
<v Speaker 2>and hidden secrets revealed. So we're just gonna go over

3083
02:50:02.799 --> 02:50:04.840
<v Speaker 2>a couple of them. We have already talked about Nazi

3084
02:50:04.840 --> 02:50:09.159
<v Speaker 2>Germany's secret Antarctica base, Antarctica UFO sightings. Hey, you know,

3085
02:50:09.319 --> 02:50:11.360
<v Speaker 2>let's just jump ahead to that one and go from there.

3086
02:50:12.479 --> 02:50:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Antarctica UFO sidings, Alien hideaways and pyramids under Antarctica. Besides

3087
02:50:17.799 --> 02:50:21.360
<v Speaker 2>the wacky notion that Nazis had obtained extraressial technology to

3088
02:50:21.360 --> 02:50:25.799
<v Speaker 2>fly UFOs out of their underground base in Antarctica. Oh.

3089
02:50:26.440 --> 02:50:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Alien rumors continue to periodically swirl around the bottom of

3090
02:50:30.120 --> 02:50:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the world, numerous satellite photographs showing utterly unremarkable features of

3091
02:50:34.319 --> 02:50:38.719
<v Speaker 2>the White Continent, from ice cracks to none attacks, which

3092
02:50:38.719 --> 02:50:42.879
<v Speaker 2>are rock peaks rising out of surrounding ice. None attacks,

3093
02:50:43.440 --> 02:50:46.000
<v Speaker 2>that's a new word, I just learned. To existing research

3094
02:50:46.040 --> 02:50:50.399
<v Speaker 2>basings and supply convoys have provoked frenzy talk of UFO

3095
02:50:50.520 --> 02:50:54.280
<v Speaker 2>crash sites and ice hidden alien cities. And we have

3096
02:50:54.399 --> 02:50:58.319
<v Speaker 2>a whole article dedicated to debunking the supposed pyramids discovered

3097
02:50:58.360 --> 02:51:01.520
<v Speaker 2>in Antarctica, which are simply natural pyramid mountains shaped by

3098
02:51:01.520 --> 02:51:05.319
<v Speaker 2>glacial and freestyle processes. Again, I like how.

3099
02:51:05.239 --> 02:51:07.319
<v Speaker 3>They went out of their way to write an entire

3100
02:51:07.520 --> 02:51:10.760
<v Speaker 3>article to dissuade you and to make you feel like

3101
02:51:10.799 --> 02:51:12.639
<v Speaker 3>you're crazy. And hey, if you do want to go

3102
02:51:12.719 --> 02:51:14.799
<v Speaker 3>in this, you're not going to see any of these things.

3103
02:51:14.840 --> 02:51:17.840
<v Speaker 3>And don't worry. You know this doesn't happen.

3104
02:51:18.000 --> 02:51:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Right, And again, the glacial shearing of a mountain and

3105
02:51:24.280 --> 02:51:26.360
<v Speaker 2>the thawing and all that.

3106
02:51:25.719 --> 02:51:27.920
<v Speaker 3>That is a real thing. That is real, is real

3107
02:51:27.959 --> 02:51:31.440
<v Speaker 3>scientific thing. But to have all four sides. I'm sorry,

3108
02:51:31.520 --> 02:51:34.840
<v Speaker 3>it looks like a pyramid. Now, I understand natural formations.

3109
02:51:35.079 --> 02:51:37.440
<v Speaker 3>I've done lots and lots of classes on them. Right,

3110
02:51:37.639 --> 02:51:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I will say it definitely could happen, right, But yeah,

3111
02:51:44.079 --> 02:51:46.399
<v Speaker 3>it would make more sense to me because of how

3112
02:51:46.440 --> 02:51:49.680
<v Speaker 3>strategic the pyramids are placed all around the world, that

3113
02:51:49.760 --> 02:51:53.280
<v Speaker 3>there would be one there, at least from my opinion.

3114
02:51:53.040 --> 02:51:55.440
<v Speaker 2>And especially if you also take into account all the

3115
02:51:55.479 --> 02:51:58.959
<v Speaker 2>other crazy things that are going on in Antarctica, right,

3116
02:51:59.399 --> 02:52:02.079
<v Speaker 2>and the possability of what's underneath, and the fact that

3117
02:52:02.079 --> 02:52:04.600
<v Speaker 2>there's a crazy time capsule in the fact that there's

3118
02:52:04.879 --> 02:52:07.799
<v Speaker 2>all these UFO sightings and all these things. It's I'm

3119
02:52:07.799 --> 02:52:11.239
<v Speaker 2>not saying that there's a zero percent chance. I'm saying

3120
02:52:11.239 --> 02:52:12.200
<v Speaker 2>it's fascinating.

3121
02:52:12.680 --> 02:52:15.559
<v Speaker 3>It is. The micro organisms get me though, Yeah, that

3122
02:52:16.040 --> 02:52:18.239
<v Speaker 3>really gets me. Some of the stuff that they're fund

3123
02:52:18.239 --> 02:52:21.680
<v Speaker 3>that they've just found in the one lake. Let's re

3124
02:52:21.760 --> 02:52:25.799
<v Speaker 3>emphasize that one lake out of over four hundred, and

3125
02:52:25.799 --> 02:52:27.440
<v Speaker 3>that's the only one that's it, that's the only one

3126
02:52:27.440 --> 02:52:29.479
<v Speaker 3>that they've actually found stuff in because it's the only

3127
02:52:29.520 --> 02:52:31.840
<v Speaker 3>one they've been able to successfully get all the way

3128
02:52:31.879 --> 02:52:35.239
<v Speaker 3>down into. Right, So we don't even know what the

3129
02:52:35.280 --> 02:52:36.159
<v Speaker 3>hell is in the other.

3130
02:52:36.079 --> 02:52:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Lakes at all, or most of the continent for that matter.

3131
02:52:39.399 --> 02:52:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're just kind of guessing at this point. We're

3132
02:52:41.399 --> 02:52:42.319
<v Speaker 3>just throwing shit at it.

3133
02:52:42.479 --> 02:52:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's wild, all right. So well, let's see the

3134
02:52:44.920 --> 02:52:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Bouvett Island lifeboat set almost midway between Quinn Maudland, coast

3135
02:52:50.239 --> 02:52:53.719
<v Speaker 2>of Antarctica and the tip of South Africa. Bouvet Island

3136
02:52:53.879 --> 02:52:58.520
<v Speaker 2>an uninhabited Norwegian dependency. Somehow Norway got a claim on that,

3137
02:52:58.559 --> 02:53:01.959
<v Speaker 2>but all right, is the most remote island on Earth.

3138
02:53:02.200 --> 02:53:05.639
<v Speaker 2>It's a volcanic landform, mostly swaddled in glacial ice, and

3139
02:53:05.680 --> 02:53:09.239
<v Speaker 2>besides its sheer isolation, iciness and the roughness of the

3140
02:53:09.280 --> 02:53:14.159
<v Speaker 2>surrounding Southern Ocean seas, the island's steep sea cliffs make

3141
02:53:14.239 --> 02:53:17.159
<v Speaker 2>it tough to access. Indeed, in nineteen sixty four, the

3142
02:53:17.200 --> 02:53:21.920
<v Speaker 2>British Royal Navy HMS Protector visited Bouvet Island and helicopters

3143
02:53:21.959 --> 02:53:24.559
<v Speaker 2>ferried a survey team under the charge of Lieutenant Commander

3144
02:53:24.559 --> 02:53:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Alan Crawford Ashore. This was on the heels of a

3145
02:53:27.680 --> 02:53:30.319
<v Speaker 2>volcanic eruption on the island. Sometime in the mid to

3146
02:53:30.360 --> 02:53:34.120
<v Speaker 2>late nineteen fifties, that created a new low bench of

3147
02:53:34.280 --> 02:53:38.040
<v Speaker 2>land named the does your people you tell me what

3148
02:53:38.120 --> 02:53:41.479
<v Speaker 2>that is? Nairote Nairoisa, I.

3149
02:53:41.399 --> 02:53:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Have no idea.

3150
02:53:42.520 --> 02:53:47.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that. On the northwestern coast, exploring that word,

3151
02:53:47.239 --> 02:53:50.280
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna call it nie Yeah. Nah, the survey team

3152
02:53:50.360 --> 02:53:53.600
<v Speaker 2>found a seal piled lagoon and partly water logged within

3153
02:53:53.680 --> 02:53:58.520
<v Speaker 2>it a whaler or ship's lifeboat, while a pair of oars,

3154
02:53:58.680 --> 02:54:02.040
<v Speaker 2>a forty four gallon barrel, and a copper buoyancy tank

3155
02:54:02.360 --> 02:54:04.959
<v Speaker 2>were found along the rocky shores of the lagoon. The

3156
02:54:05.000 --> 02:54:07.680
<v Speaker 2>team could find no human remains or other evidence of

3157
02:54:07.760 --> 02:54:11.959
<v Speaker 2>humans occupying in the vicinity or occupation in the vicinity. Okay,

3158
02:54:12.000 --> 02:54:13.079
<v Speaker 2>well that's very interesting.

3159
02:54:13.239 --> 02:54:16.360
<v Speaker 3>That's because they got sacrificed to the blood fall clearly.

3160
02:54:16.879 --> 02:54:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Clearly. We already talked about the wilks Land gravity anomaly,

3161
02:54:20.799 --> 02:54:27.520
<v Speaker 2>which that's still crazy that this crater allegedly hit Antarctica allegedly,

3162
02:54:28.280 --> 02:54:30.120
<v Speaker 2>and now as a result of that, we have this

3163
02:54:30.200 --> 02:54:35.639
<v Speaker 2>weird dip in the Earth's gravitational pull around it allegedly.

3164
02:54:37.719 --> 02:54:39.399
<v Speaker 2>I out loud, that makes no fucking sense.

3165
02:54:41.360 --> 02:54:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I wish I had more of a physics background. I'm

3166
02:54:44.000 --> 02:54:45.719
<v Speaker 3>gonna have to learn it I guess at this point

3167
02:54:46.559 --> 02:54:48.680
<v Speaker 3>here comes YouTube con Academy FA.

3168
02:54:48.959 --> 02:54:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, buddy, all right, now let's go into the Falkland

3169
02:54:51.639 --> 02:54:55.959
<v Speaker 2>Islands wolf. This is interesting. In the late sixteen hundreds,

3170
02:54:56.040 --> 02:54:58.799
<v Speaker 2>the first Europeans to land on the Falkland Islands, set

3171
02:54:58.920 --> 02:55:01.840
<v Speaker 2>some three hundred miles off the eastern Patagonian coast of

3172
02:55:01.879 --> 02:55:05.479
<v Speaker 2>South America along the cusp of the sub Antarctic zone,

3173
02:55:05.639 --> 02:55:10.479
<v Speaker 2>made their earliest records observations that the archipelago's native canide,

3174
02:55:10.799 --> 02:55:14.639
<v Speaker 2>or the so called Falkland Island's wolf or wara, this

3175
02:55:15.120 --> 02:55:18.680
<v Speaker 2>large wolf like fox, as Charles Darwin described it. Yeah

3176
02:55:18.680 --> 02:55:21.959
<v Speaker 2>that Charles Darwin was the only known native terrestrial mammal

3177
02:55:22.040 --> 02:55:25.079
<v Speaker 2>in the Falklands, and it didn't have all that long

3178
02:55:25.159 --> 02:55:28.079
<v Speaker 2>for the world. Hunted for its fur and persecuted by

3179
02:55:28.120 --> 02:55:32.920
<v Speaker 2>sheep herders, the wara went extinct by eighteen seventy six.

3180
02:55:33.559 --> 02:55:36.000
<v Speaker 2>How this doom beast made it to the remote Falkland

3181
02:55:36.000 --> 02:55:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Islands in the first place was long debated, as no

3182
02:55:38.600 --> 02:55:41.879
<v Speaker 2>other island group of comparable distance from a continental coast

3183
02:55:41.920 --> 02:55:46.920
<v Speaker 2>is known to have its own indigenous canide. In twenty thirteen,

3184
02:55:47.079 --> 02:55:50.760
<v Speaker 2>a study utilizing DNA analysis suggested the Wara split from

3185
02:55:50.799 --> 02:55:54.520
<v Speaker 2>a mainland ancestor not going to try to pronounce that Latin.

3186
02:55:54.920 --> 02:55:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Quite recently in the geological scheme of things, perhaps only

3187
02:55:58.159 --> 02:56:01.559
<v Speaker 2>sixteen thousand years ago, which coincided with the last glacial

3188
02:56:01.639 --> 02:56:10.479
<v Speaker 2>maximum of the pleistol Pliosa scene Pliostacene. Sure, at this

3189
02:56:10.600 --> 02:56:14.239
<v Speaker 2>time of lowered sea level, Argentina's coastal plain dramatically expanded,

3190
02:56:14.239 --> 02:56:17.760
<v Speaker 2>and the Falkland Islands covered significantly more water above or

3191
02:56:17.799 --> 02:56:21.360
<v Speaker 2>above water area. Evidence suggested the archipelago then was only

3192
02:56:21.399 --> 02:56:24.360
<v Speaker 2>separated from the mainland by a narrowing, shallow strait, which

3193
02:56:24.479 --> 02:56:27.680
<v Speaker 2>quite likely would have frozen over with sea ice. So

3194
02:56:27.799 --> 02:56:30.440
<v Speaker 2>perhaps it was by such an ice bridge that the

3195
02:56:30.479 --> 02:56:35.360
<v Speaker 2>ancestors of the Falkland island wolf Tit trotted their way

3196
02:56:35.399 --> 02:56:41.000
<v Speaker 2>across the island. Okay, that's interesting anyway, all right, So

3197
02:56:41.079 --> 02:56:44.840
<v Speaker 2>now the Antarctica mystery Hole. In mid nineteen seventies, after

3198
02:56:44.840 --> 02:56:48.079
<v Speaker 2>the launch of the very first satellite, the first mystery

3199
02:56:48.079 --> 02:56:51.200
<v Speaker 2>hole in the winter sea ice of Antarctica's Wettle Sea

3200
02:56:51.319 --> 02:56:54.959
<v Speaker 2>was documented, a massive New Zealand sized void of open

3201
02:56:55.040 --> 02:56:58.760
<v Speaker 2>sea when one would think ice cover would be the

3202
02:56:58.799 --> 02:57:02.520
<v Speaker 2>thickest and most continued The mystery hole in antarticle reappeared

3203
02:57:02.559 --> 02:57:05.000
<v Speaker 2>in the mid to late twenty tens, and with a

3204
02:57:05.079 --> 02:57:09.000
<v Speaker 2>thirteen thousand square mile gap opening in August twenty sixteen

3205
02:57:09.399 --> 02:57:12.399
<v Speaker 2>and a nineteen thousand square mile one appearing in September

3206
02:57:12.440 --> 02:57:16.559
<v Speaker 2>and October of twenty seventeen. Another mystery hole opened up

3207
02:57:16.600 --> 02:57:21.280
<v Speaker 2>in twenty nineteen two. Really, what is causing these holes

3208
02:57:21.280 --> 02:57:25.360
<v Speaker 2>to open up? I guess they're going home where they're

3209
02:57:25.399 --> 02:57:29.399
<v Speaker 2>sending shit home? Maybe keep on home. Let's see, we

3210
02:57:29.440 --> 02:57:32.760
<v Speaker 2>talked about the perie Reese map all already. It's interesting,

3211
02:57:32.799 --> 02:57:35.040
<v Speaker 2>but then whenever you look at it as compared to

3212
02:57:35.280 --> 02:57:38.719
<v Speaker 2>the information that he had at his time, it's interesting,

3213
02:57:38.840 --> 02:57:41.120
<v Speaker 2>but it's not something like, really hang your hat on

3214
02:57:41.600 --> 02:57:44.440
<v Speaker 2>uh Lake Volstock, monster, octopus.

3215
02:57:44.559 --> 02:57:47.440
<v Speaker 3>We could always save these and do the miss and

3216
02:57:47.440 --> 02:57:50.159
<v Speaker 3>and all of that, and the octopuses and all the

3217
02:57:50.360 --> 02:57:51.559
<v Speaker 3>random crazy stuff.

3218
02:57:51.639 --> 02:57:53.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, you're trying to make a third episode out

3219
02:57:53.520 --> 02:57:53.760
<v Speaker 2>of this.

3220
02:57:53.840 --> 02:57:55.879
<v Speaker 3>I might because I really want to talk about the lore,

3221
02:57:56.239 --> 02:57:58.440
<v Speaker 3>about the miss and stuff. I was just looking at

3222
02:57:58.479 --> 02:58:01.200
<v Speaker 3>the some of the stuff. I was like, I feel

3223
02:58:01.200 --> 02:58:02.760
<v Speaker 3>like there's so much that we can come back to

3224
02:58:02.760 --> 02:58:05.799
<v Speaker 3>you and how all the different conspiracies actually tie back

3225
02:58:05.840 --> 02:58:08.120
<v Speaker 3>to Antarctica and talk about why they do.

3226
02:58:08.760 --> 02:58:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Good cult members, tell us what you think about as

3227
02:58:10.799 --> 02:58:15.239
<v Speaker 2>possibly doing a part three on the Antarctica mission here

3228
02:58:15.360 --> 02:58:17.479
<v Speaker 2>or I mean, honestly, we could turn this into a series,

3229
02:58:17.920 --> 02:58:20.120
<v Speaker 2>because it's like every single thing we've talked about, we

3230
02:58:20.159 --> 02:58:22.360
<v Speaker 2>could do a way deeper dive in to show the

3231
02:58:22.440 --> 02:58:26.959
<v Speaker 2>fallacies and the scientific explanations and the historical precedence to

3232
02:58:27.000 --> 02:58:30.440
<v Speaker 2>it and all of these things. It's fascinating in and

3233
02:58:30.440 --> 02:58:32.959
<v Speaker 2>of itself. So let us know what you think about

3234
02:58:32.959 --> 02:58:34.719
<v Speaker 2>a good cult members. We want to hear from you.

3235
02:58:35.000 --> 02:58:37.440
<v Speaker 2>But before we go ahead and give our send off,

3236
02:58:37.719 --> 02:58:39.239
<v Speaker 2>I do want to remind you that if you would

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<v Speaker 2>Clark is going to be the one to reach out

3256
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<v Speaker 2>to you and get you squared away. Talk to your

3257
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3258
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<v Speaker 2>charge of your retirement portfolio, and ask them, hey, bro,

3259
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<v Speaker 2>I've heard things about precious metals. What do you think

3260
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<v Speaker 2>about investing in this? Is this smart? Is this kind

3261
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<v Speaker 2>of hokey? Is it not going to be a thing.

3262
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<v Speaker 2>I promise that every one of them that are worth

3263
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<v Speaker 2>being said, this was another beautiful episode of the Cult

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