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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm calling one of my actually, my roommates both

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<v Speaker 1>most of the on like a couple of hours ago.

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<v Speaker 2>M Ground Forks in North Dakota is a city shaped

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<v Speaker 2>by both natural beauty and natural disaster. Founded in eighteen seventy,

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<v Speaker 2>this prairie community grew from a humble frontier trading post

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<v Speaker 2>into a thriving university town. It was home to the

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<v Speaker 2>University of North Dakota and almost sixty thousand residents by

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<v Speaker 2>the early two thousands. The city had weathered the devastating

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<v Speaker 2>flood of nineteen ninety seven, which forced the evacuation of

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<v Speaker 2>fifty thousand people and left much of downtown underwater, but

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<v Speaker 2>Grand Forks rebuilt stronger and more resilient. By two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and three, life had returned to normal rhythms in Grand Forks.

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<v Speaker 2>The Columbia Mall had become the heart of the community's

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<v Speaker 2>retail life, a sprawling complex that opened in nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 2>eight and served not just the city but shoppers from

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<v Speaker 2>across the region. On any given day, you'd found families

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<v Speaker 2>browsing the anchor stores, teenagers gathering at the food court,

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<v Speaker 2>and workers grabbing lunch between shifts. The mall's vast parking

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<v Speaker 2>lot buzzed with activity, a safe cars under the endless

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<v Speaker 2>Dakota sky. But on one cold November evening in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and three, that familiar scene would become the backdrop

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<v Speaker 2>for something far more sinister. The temperature had dropped well

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<v Speaker 2>below freezing, and a bitter wind swept across the parking

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<v Speaker 2>lot as shoppers hurried to their vehicles, breath visible in

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<v Speaker 2>the frigid air. Among them was a young woman making

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<v Speaker 2>her way across the asphalt towards her car. She had

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<v Speaker 2>her cell phone pressed to her ear as she spoke

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<v Speaker 2>with her boyfriend. Their conversation was routine, the comfortable chatter

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<v Speaker 2>of two people who talked every single day. She was

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<v Speaker 2>telling him about her day, about heading home, about the cold,

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<v Speaker 2>but then suddenly her voice changed. She said, oh my God,

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<v Speaker 2>in a panic tone. Then the line went dead. Drucia

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<v Speaker 2>Dane was born on the twenty six of September nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty one in this quiet town of Pequot Lakes in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>She was the daughter of Alan Shedane and Linda Walker,

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<v Speaker 2>and from the beginning, Drew radiated at warmth that seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to draw people in. She had an older brother Sven,

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<v Speaker 2>and the two were inseparable. More than just siblings, they

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<v Speaker 2>were best friends. Sven would later recall, she had that

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<v Speaker 2>ability to attract people. People just loved who she was.

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<v Speaker 2>We were both extroverted, but she had this smile, this

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<v Speaker 2>way of leaning in when she talked to you, that

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<v Speaker 2>made you feel like you'd known her your whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>Although Alan and Linda's marriage eventually came to an end,

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<v Speaker 2>it never fractured the family. They remained close friends, even

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<v Speaker 2>attending dinners together after they remarried. That sense of harmony

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<v Speaker 2>in love was something that Drew carried with her into

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<v Speaker 2>every corner of her own life. As a child, she

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<v Speaker 2>was spontaneous and endlessly kind. She was a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>girl who would sit at the kitchen table making little

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<v Speaker 2>cards and drawings for her friends and family just to

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<v Speaker 2>brighten their day. Her artistic strake earned her the nickname Doodles,

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<v Speaker 2>while others affectionately called her Drowsy. At high school, Drew's

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<v Speaker 2>energy and spirit shawn even brighter. She excelled academically, becoming

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<v Speaker 2>an honor student, and her classmates crowned her homecoming queen.

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<v Speaker 2>But she wasn't just the picture perfect student. She was

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<v Speaker 2>also a dedicated athlete with the love for basketball, volleyball,

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<v Speaker 2>and golf. By the time Drew graduated in two thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>she had already built a reputation as someone who could

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<v Speaker 2>balance grace, intelligence, and athleticism without ever losing her dawn

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<v Speaker 2>to earth nature. She went on to study graphic design

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<v Speaker 2>at the University of North Dakota in Grand Forks. There

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<v Speaker 2>she joined the Gama Phoebeta sorority. One of her sorority sisters, Randy,

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<v Speaker 2>said of her, even if she didn't know you, she'd

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<v Speaker 2>give you a smile. Randy admitted the Drews beauty was

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<v Speaker 2>the kind that might have intimidated others, but it didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>She explained, she was one of those girls you wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to hate, but you just couldn't. Another friend, Odo van

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<v Speaker 2>Hoff remembered how quickly Drew connected with people. She said,

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<v Speaker 2>you could get to know her instantly. You could talk

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<v Speaker 2>to her about anything. While balancing her classes, dre report

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<v Speaker 2>herself into causes that mattered. Through her sorority, she worked

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<v Speaker 2>with underprivileged teens, helped kindergarteners and first graders learned to read,

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<v Speaker 2>and raised money for organizations such as the American Diabetes Association.

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<v Speaker 2>She even volunteered for events that raised awareness about violence

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<v Speaker 2>against women and children. Drew also worked two jobs, one

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<v Speaker 2>at a Victoria's Secret store in the Columbia Mall and

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<v Speaker 2>another as a waitress at a local spot called El Rocco.

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<v Speaker 2>Somehow she managed to carry a full course load, give

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<v Speaker 2>her time to others, and still make space for joy.

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<v Speaker 2>She loved learning, always eager to ask questions, always curious

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<v Speaker 2>print production, electronic publishing. Anything that allowed her to bland

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<v Speaker 2>art with technology fascinated her. She even interned with the

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<v Speaker 2>university's aviation program, which gave her the chance to travel.

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<v Speaker 2>By the spring of two thousand and three, Drew was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two years old and on the cusp of finishing

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<v Speaker 2>her degree. She had been set to graduate in May,

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<v Speaker 2>but when she learned of a special opportunity, a photography

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<v Speaker 2>class that would take her to Australia, she chose to

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<v Speaker 2>delay her graduation until August. At the time, Drew lived

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<v Speaker 2>off campus with her close friend Meg Murphy. Her days

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<v Speaker 2>were filled with lectures, studying, work, and volunteer projects, but

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<v Speaker 2>she always found time for the people who mattered the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Among them was her boyfriend Chris Lang. Drew had met

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<v Speaker 2>Chris the previous summer in her hometown, where he had

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<v Speaker 2>taken a seasonal job. Chris was from the Twin Cities area.

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<v Speaker 2>Unlike so many others, he had been drawn to Drew's smile,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was more than that. Chris recalled how Drew

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<v Speaker 2>made him feel seen, valued, important. He later said she

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<v Speaker 2>was just a great example of somebody raised by a wonderful,

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<v Speaker 2>loving family, and for Drew, the feelings were mutual. She

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<v Speaker 2>told friends that she might have met the man she

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<v Speaker 2>was going to marry. She could see a future with Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>but Drew had no way of knowing that she wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>live to see a future with anybody. It was an

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<v Speaker 2>ordinary Saturday afternoon on November twenty second, two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 2>at the Columbia Mall in Grand Forks, North Dakota. The

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<v Speaker 2>holiday shopping season was already beginning to stir. Inside the

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria's Secret Store, Drew Shdaine was finishing her shift. She

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<v Speaker 2>was known for her bright smile behind the counter, but

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<v Speaker 2>at around four o'clock she clocked out and slipped into

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<v Speaker 2>the cool air of the early evening. Before heading home,

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<v Speaker 2>Drew stopped at Marshall Fields, a department store just across

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<v Speaker 2>from where she worked. She picked out a new purse,

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<v Speaker 2>patted the register, and then walked back across the parking

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<v Speaker 2>lot towards her car and nineteen ninety four old mobile Cutlass.

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<v Speaker 2>Somewhere along that walk, Drew's phone rang. On the other

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<v Speaker 2>end of the line was her boyfriend, Chris. The two

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<v Speaker 2>shatted casually. Drew told him that she was heading to

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<v Speaker 2>her car, but then there was silence. Chris said her

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<v Speaker 2>name a few times, confused. That's when he heard her

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<v Speaker 2>voice again, quick and sharp as she said okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Then just a breath later, oh my god, then the

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<v Speaker 2>line went dead. Chris stared at his phone. He tried

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<v Speaker 2>to call Drew back. Each time it just rang and rang.

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<v Speaker 2>Drew never answered. Worried, Chris reached out to Drew's roommate,

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<v Speaker 2>asking her to let him know when Drew got home,

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<v Speaker 2>but she never came back. Ours passed. Chris's anxiety grew heavier,

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<v Speaker 2>and then another phone call. It was Drew's number, really

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<v Speaker 2>flooded him as he picked up, but there was no

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<v Speaker 2>voice on the other end of the line. All he

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<v Speaker 2>could hear was static and the muffled sounds of buttons

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<v Speaker 2>being pressed. By then, Drew should have been starting her

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<v Speaker 2>evening shift at Al Roccu, the local bar where she

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<v Speaker 2>worked part time, but Drew never showed up. Now Chris's

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<v Speaker 2>worry turned to fear. Drew wasn't the kind of person

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<v Speaker 2>to ignore her phone. She wasn't the kind to just vanish.

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<v Speaker 2>He called her friends, hoping that somebody had seen her,

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<v Speaker 2>but nobody had. He in her roommate, Meg then called

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<v Speaker 2>nine one one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm calling one of my actually, my roommates was most

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<v Speaker 1>to be all like a couple hours ago.

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<v Speaker 2>The search for Drew began immediately. Detectives knew that the

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<v Speaker 2>first hours after a disappearance were critical. With Drew's abandoned

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<v Speaker 2>phone calls in her sudden silence, they quickly suspected the

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<v Speaker 2>worst that Drew had been abducted. Their first stop was

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<v Speaker 2>the Columbia Mall. Her automobile was still there in the

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<v Speaker 2>parking lot. The passenger door was unlocked. A shopping bag

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<v Speaker 2>from marshall Field sat inside the front seat, untouched. But

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<v Speaker 2>behind the car, detectives found something that stopped them in

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<v Speaker 2>their tracks. It was a black nylon sheathe marked with

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<v Speaker 2>the Words tool shop. It belonged to a folding lock

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<v Speaker 2>blade knife. It was a small clue, but it painted

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<v Speaker 2>a grim picture. Drew had made it safely back to

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<v Speaker 2>her car, and then something happened. Detectives pulled security footage

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<v Speaker 2>from inside the mall. Drew could be seen walking through

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria's Secret and later at Marshall Fields. She was alone

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<v Speaker 2>and nobody appeared to be following her, but outside the

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<v Speaker 2>cameras were sparse the parking lot offered little hell. Investigators

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<v Speaker 2>turned to the strange second call, the one that Chris

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<v Speaker 2>had received ours later with nothing, but the static celtar

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<v Speaker 2>data showed that the call pinged off atar near Fisher And, Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 2>around twenty five miles from Grand Forks, and for nearly

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four rs, druce phone remained in that area, but

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<v Speaker 2>Tree had no reason to be there, and if she

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't in her own car, it meant that somebody else

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<v Speaker 2>had taken her there. Detective Mike Sholes explained, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>uncommon for people to go missing for a variety of reasons,

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<v Speaker 2>but certain characteristics of this case demand immediate attention. So

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<v Speaker 2>in all points, bullet And went out. Law enforcement agencies

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<v Speaker 2>across the region were notified.

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<v Speaker 2>and even the FBI coordinated search efforts. They began in Fisher,

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<v Speaker 2>sweeping in eight mile radius around Fisher's Landing, a small

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<v Speaker 2>riverside community on the Red River lined with woodland and marshland.

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<v Speaker 2>Bloodhounds traced sends along the water's edge, their handlers pushing

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<v Speaker 2>into the dense underbrush ATVs roared down dirt tracks where

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<v Speaker 2>cars couldn't go. Searchers spread out across farmland, abandoned buildings,

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<v Speaker 2>the days dragged on without any answers. Detectives widened the search.

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<v Speaker 2>Volunteers joined in, coming through back roads, drainage, ditches, and fields.

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<v Speaker 2>Lieutenant Byron Sever voiced what everyone was thinking. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to search every inch of the ditches. You don't know

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<v Speaker 2>but every minute is precious mean. While Drew's family issued

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<v Speaker 2>a plea for help, offering a twenty thousand dollar reward

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<v Speaker 2>very responsible. This is totally out of character for her.

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<v Speaker 2>But as each day passed, the hope of finding Drew

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<v Speaker 2>into a nightmare that now stretched across two states, and

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<v Speaker 2>as the search widened, so too did the questions, who

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<v Speaker 2>the same question, did you hear what happened to Drew?

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<v Speaker 2>Drew had been so well known, so present, that the

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<v Speaker 2>in passing, who leaned in when she talked to you,

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<v Speaker 2>like you were already friends. Brae Hearing, a junior, tried

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<v Speaker 2>don't know a person who was abducted. When you can

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<v Speaker 2>put a face to the name and picture her sitting

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<v Speaker 2>in class, it's strange. Her sorority sisters hung a sign

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<v Speaker 2>that read Pray for Drew. The university announced counseling for students,

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<v Speaker 2>and that night, around three hundred and fifty people crowded

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<v Speaker 2>vigil Candles flickered in the dim room as voices rose

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<v Speaker 2>in prayer. But beneath that grief there was fear. It

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't been midnight in some deserted alley when Drew vanished.

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<v Speaker 2>It was broad daylight, five o'clock on a Saturday evening

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<v Speaker 2>Drew's friends insisted she had no reason to be near Fisher,

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota, where her cell phone had last pink. Her

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<v Speaker 2>family said that she didn't know a soul there. Her

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<v Speaker 2>friend Adam Shotts commented, she just wouldn't take off without

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<v Speaker 2>letting anybody know. She's a great person. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>why anyone would want to do anything to hurt her.

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<v Speaker 2>The shock rippled beyond the university across Grand Forks Fair

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<v Speaker 2>translated into action. Seals of pepper spray stun guns and

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<v Speaker 2>other self protection items exploded. It's beyond belief, said Jason

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<v Speaker 2>Schultz at Home of Economy. He said that they normally

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<v Speaker 2>sold eight years worth in just ten days. Meanwhile, the

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<v Speaker 2>search around Fisher continued The town itself was little more

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<v Speaker 2>than farmland, woods and the winding Red River, a quiet

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<v Speaker 2>place that was now transformed into the center of a

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<v Speaker 2>desperate man hunt. Hundreds of volunteers poured into help. People

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<v Speaker 2>were bossed in from Grand Forks every hour, braving the

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<v Speaker 2>biting cold. Drew's family searched alongside them, trudging through snow drifts,

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<v Speaker 2>refusing to stop, but the elements worked against them. Temperatures plunged,

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<v Speaker 2>the wind slicing so sharply that it felt like ten

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<v Speaker 2>below zero. Still, volunteers were on their hands and knees

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<v Speaker 2>combing frozen ground for the smallest clue. Investigators warned that

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<v Speaker 2>the ping from Drew's cell phone didn't necessarily mean that

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<v Speaker 2>she'd been in fissure at all. Sergeant Michael Hedlund explained,

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<v Speaker 2>it could have been someone driving down the road and

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<v Speaker 2>throwing the phone out the window. We don't know she's

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<v Speaker 2>been here. We know the cell phone has been here. Still,

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<v Speaker 2>the search pressed on the perimeter widened, reaching out to

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<v Speaker 2>surrounding towns. Among them was Crookston, a small city twelve

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<v Speaker 2>miles away, and on the twenty fifth of November, detectives

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<v Speaker 2>found something beneath the Highway seventy five by pass Bridge

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<v Speaker 2>lay a discarded shoe. Drew's family identified it immediately it

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<v Speaker 2>belonged to Drew. The discovery brought no comfort, only dread.

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<v Speaker 2>Two days later, as Thanksgiving approached, Drew's family and investigators

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<v Speaker 2>renewed their play for information. Her father, Alan said, were

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelmed by the generosity and the support of the Grand

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<v Speaker 2>Forks community. There is in our hearts and our thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>and prayers. We would like to have her home for

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<v Speaker 2>a Thanksgiving reunion. But Thanksgiving came and went. While most

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<v Speaker 2>students returned home, some of Drew's closest friends stayed behind,

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<v Speaker 2>refusing to leave while she remained missing. Her family launched

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<v Speaker 2>a website, found drew dot com, which featured her photographs,

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<v Speaker 2>details of her abduction, and the number for the tip line.

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<v Speaker 2>They also raised the reward fund dramatically, up to one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty thousand dollars for her safe return. Detectives

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<v Speaker 2>now turned to another pressing question, who could have wanted

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<v Speaker 2>the hurt Drew. By all accounts, she had no enemies.

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<v Speaker 2>She was kind and welcoming. Nobody could think of anybody

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<v Speaker 2>who would wish her harm. But then, as investigators began

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<v Speaker 2>sp speaking with her co workers. One detail caught their attention,

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<v Speaker 2>a victorious secret. Somebody had called the store in recent weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>The caller had a foreign accent. He'd asked to speak

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<v Speaker 2>to Dry directly. The call had been harassing in nature.

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<v Speaker 2>Detectives began to dig deeper. They decided to come through

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<v Speaker 2>the sex offender Registry for the area, a routaining but

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<v Speaker 2>critical step in cases like this. It didn't take long

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<v Speaker 2>before one name leapt off the page. He was local,

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<v Speaker 2>he was high risk, and his PAS suggested he was

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<v Speaker 2>capable of far worse than harassment. Alphonso Rodriguez Junior was

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<v Speaker 2>born on the eighteenth of February nineteen fifty three, the

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<v Speaker 2>second oldest of five children to a family of migrant workers.

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<v Speaker 2>His father, Alphonso Senior, had only a third grade education,

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<v Speaker 2>and he spoke Spanish. His mother, Lauris, had attended school

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<v Speaker 2>only until the fourth grade, but she taught herself to

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<v Speaker 2>Reid and speak English. For fifteen years, the family moved

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth between Texas and the Red River Valley

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<v Speaker 2>before settling in Crookston in Minnesota. Both parents worked long,

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<v Speaker 2>grueling ours in the fields, leaving little time for the children,

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<v Speaker 2>Rodriguez had a difficult start in life. He was small, fussy,

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<v Speaker 2>and sickly. He couldn't tolerate breast milk, and doctors advised

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<v Speaker 2>his mother to feed him rice water instead. By four

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<v Speaker 2>months old, he was on the verge of starvation and

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<v Speaker 2>diagnosed with failure to thrive. That early fragility seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>shadow him throughout his life. He never learned to read

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<v Speaker 2>or out properly, and struggled to meet basic developmental milestones.

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<v Speaker 2>While his family was hard working, they were plagued by

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<v Speaker 2>poverty and a range of physical and mental health challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>Rodriguez himself would later be diagnosed with depression, diabetes, hand tremmers,

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<v Speaker 2>and chemical dependency. Dolores described him as different, quiet, withdrawn

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<v Speaker 2>out of step with the rest of the world. Once

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<v Speaker 2>she worked in the fields, she would bring the children along,

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<v Speaker 2>leaving them to play in the ditches. His sister, Sylvia

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<v Speaker 2>recalled chasing frogs into tunnels and hiding from the crop

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<v Speaker 2>dusting plains, whose chemicals sometimes landed on their skin and

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<v Speaker 2>left a sticky residue. By the age of five, Rodriguez

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<v Speaker 2>and his siblings were sent to a migrant children's camp

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<v Speaker 2>while their parents worked. It was here that the first

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<v Speaker 2>sexual abuse occurred, perpetrated by an older female. Sylvia later

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<v Speaker 2>recounted witnessing the assault. Not long after, a man who

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<v Speaker 2>rented their home forced Rodriguez and Sylvia into an outhouse

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<v Speaker 2>and coerced them into fondling him. Rodriguez had tried to

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<v Speaker 2>protect his cyst there, but even at such a young

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<v Speaker 2>age that trauma began to shape him, and the abuse

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<v Speaker 2>didn't stop. At age six, Rodriguez was molested by a

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<v Speaker 2>college aged woman at a church camp. The next year,

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<v Speaker 2>a teenage boy sexually assaulted him. The repeated trauma, combined

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<v Speaker 2>with the childhood of neglect, left deep scars that would

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<v Speaker 2>follow him into his adulthood. By age nine, the family

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<v Speaker 2>had relocated to Croxton and Minnesota. Dolores worked evening shifts

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<v Speaker 2>in a restaurant kitchen, leaving the children largely to their

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<v Speaker 2>own devices. Their father arrived home late and was physically abusive,

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<v Speaker 2>frequently beating Rodrigurez and calling him stupid. In response, Rodriguez

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<v Speaker 2>and drugs, including acid, hash, and marijuana, and he scavenged

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<v Speaker 2>for food and entertainment. At the local dump school was

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<v Speaker 2>said to be another battlefield. He walked with a limp,

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<v Speaker 2>form tremors. He was an easy target for the bullies,

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<v Speaker 2>who kicked, pushed, and mocked him relentlessly. One cruel episode

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<v Speaker 2>involved classmates threatening to paint him with white paint because

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<v Speaker 2>and often sat on the sidelines watching the other children play.

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<v Speaker 2>His younger siblings quickly surpassed him in school, and his

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<v Speaker 2>haunted by the hardships and abuse of his early years.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a childhood marked by deprivation, cruelty, and isolation,

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<v Speaker 2>one that would later leave its shadow on the choices

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<v Speaker 2>had already begun to appear. In nineteen seventy four, he

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<v Speaker 2>knife point. His methods were opportunistic but terrifyingly calculated. His

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<v Speaker 2>Trusting a stranger's polite demeanor, Rodriguez directed her to a

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<v Speaker 2>promo code morbidology ten. The assessment painted a troubling picture.

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<v Speaker 2>He was diagnosed with an alcoholic personality disorder with some paranoid,

419
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 2>schizoid and antisocial tendencies. Rodriguez himself admitted he had sexual

420
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:02.920
<v Speaker 2>aggression issue, although he claimed he could control his impulses,

421
00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:07.880
<v Speaker 2>but his past actions suggested it otherwise. On the ninth

422
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.559
<v Speaker 2>of April nineteen eighty, he was released on a pass

423
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:14.160
<v Speaker 2>to his parents' home in Croxton. Only four days later,

424
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>he approached a woman for directions. When she refused to cooperate,

425
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<v Speaker 2>he grabbed her arm and threatened get in the car

426
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:25.079
<v Speaker 2>or I'm going to kill you. She struggled, and in response,

427
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Rodriguez stabbed her in the arm AND's stomach. By some

428
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:32.720
<v Speaker 2>stroke of luck, she managed to escape. Rodriguez was convicted

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<v Speaker 2>of kidnapping and aggravated assault. During a sentencing hearing, he

430
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<v Speaker 2>requested a return to Saint Peter rather than be sent

431
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<v Speaker 2>to prison. He told the court, well, I guess I

432
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<v Speaker 2>will always need treatment of some kind and I would

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<v Speaker 2>benefit from it. The judge told him, I don't know

434
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<v Speaker 2>whether it's emotional or whatever it is, but it's something

435
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<v Speaker 2>that you apparently have no control over. Until such time

436
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 2>as there is some medical proof, mister Rodriguez, that saw

437
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<v Speaker 2>something has taken place with you that will prevent you

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<v Speaker 2>from acting out in this way. You should not be

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00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>allowed to roam free in our society. Rodriguez was sentenced

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty three years in prison, yet in those decades

441
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:18.759
<v Speaker 2>behind bars, his treatment was minimal. He received chemical dependency counseling,

442
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.599
<v Speaker 2>but he refused programs designed to address his sexual aggression.

443
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<v Speaker 2>Prison offered structure but no real rehabilitation, leaving the underlying

444
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:33.599
<v Speaker 2>pathology unaddressed. Between the ages of eighteen and fifty, Rodriguez

445
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<v Speaker 2>would spend all but approximately three and a half years incarcerated.

446
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<v Speaker 2>By the early two thousands, he had become all too

447
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<v Speaker 2>familiar with the routines and rules of the penal system,

448
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<v Speaker 2>but freedom remained an alien concept even he feared it.

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<v Speaker 2>He confided to a prison psychologist, I want to be

450
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<v Speaker 2>locked up, but not locked up. This revealed the anxious

451
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:58.960
<v Speaker 2>tension that would follow him into the outside world. His

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00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.599
<v Speaker 2>family was also on it easy They contacted the Minnesota

453
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<v Speaker 2>Department of Corrections to voice their concerns over his eminent

454
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<v Speaker 2>release and lack of supervision. His sister called local police

455
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<v Speaker 2>repeatedly and pleaded with them to monitor him. She feared

456
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<v Speaker 2>that he would strike again, but Sergeant Jerry Moreno informed

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<v Speaker 2>her that once a person had served their sentence, there

458
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<v Speaker 2>were no ties to probation, no system in place to

459
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<v Speaker 2>enforce oversight. The Department of Corrections had the option to

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<v Speaker 2>civilly commit Rodriguez given the risk he pose, but they

461
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.720
<v Speaker 2>chose not to their own experts had warned that his

462
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<v Speaker 2>untraded sexual aggression, combined with a return to an environment

463
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<v Speaker 2>lacking structure, could actually encourage further criminal behavior. Yet prison

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<v Speaker 2>officials concluded that there was little in his conduct during

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<v Speaker 2>incarceration to suggest imminent danger. So in May of two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and three, just six months before dru Shadin would

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<v Speaker 2>be abducted, Rodriguez was released. He moved into his mother

468
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<v Speaker 2>Dolores's home on Adams Street in Crooston, a tidy, quiet

469
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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood where families had lived for decades. Dolores, who had

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<v Speaker 2>once labored in the fields alongside her husband and children,

471
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<v Speaker 2>was now well known in the community. She was polite,

472
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>soft spoken, and always shared homemade Tomali's with her neighbors.

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<v Speaker 2>Her husband had passed away, leaving her to manage the

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<v Speaker 2>household alone, with Alphonso's presence now a stark reminder of

475
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<v Speaker 2>the past. Rodriguez's release came with conditions. As a Level

476
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:42.559
<v Speaker 2>three sex offender, he was required to register with law

477
00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:46.960
<v Speaker 2>enforcement for ten years, reporting his address, vehicle, and employment.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Neighbors initially noticed little out of the ordinary. Alissa Cardinal,

479
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<v Speaker 2>who lived nearby, recalled, you never saw him unless he

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<v Speaker 2>was mowing the lawn or trimming the plants in the front.

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<v Speaker 2>Appearances were deceptive. Behind the quiet, methodical routines of his days,

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<v Speaker 2>Rodriguez carried a history of unchecked aggression, devian impulses, and

483
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<v Speaker 2>violent urges. For decades. His life had been a cycle

484
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<v Speaker 2>of abuse, trauma, and institutionalization, leaving him ill equipped to

485
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<v Speaker 2>navigate the world safely. The calm he projected in the

486
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:29.839
<v Speaker 2>neighborhood masked the danger simmering beneath, a danger that just

487
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<v Speaker 2>months later would erupt with devastating consequences. Once detectives discovered

488
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<v Speaker 2>that Alphonso Rodriguez Junior had been in the Vicinityond the

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00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.160
<v Speaker 2>day that Drew vanished, he quickly became the focus of

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00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:56.359
<v Speaker 2>their investigation. His history of abducting women he didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>made him a person of interest, and investigators were determan

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<v Speaker 2>to learn exactly where he had been that afternoon. Rodriguez

493
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<v Speaker 2>had been scheduled to work hanging drywall at a construction

494
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 2>site in Macintosh, Minnesota, but he hadn't shown up. Detectives

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<v Speaker 2>contacted him and requested he come in for an interview.

496
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<v Speaker 2>They asked him to account for his whereabouts on the

497
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<v Speaker 2>evening of November twenty second, the day that Drew disappeared.

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<v Speaker 2>Rodriguez initially claimed he had been at the cinema watching

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<v Speaker 2>Once Upon a Time in Mexico from four point thirty

500
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<v Speaker 2>eight to seven thirty pm at a theater not too

501
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<v Speaker 2>far from the mall. He said he had stopped for

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<v Speaker 2>a quick meal at McDonald's before heading back to his

503
00:33:38.319 --> 00:33:41.480
<v Speaker 2>home in Crooston. On the surface, it seemed like a

504
00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:46.920
<v Speaker 2>plausible alibi, but when detectives checked the story quickly unraveled.

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<v Speaker 2>The movie he claimed to have seen that day hadn't

506
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<v Speaker 2>been playing in any Grand Forks theaters. When confronted with

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<v Speaker 2>this discrepancy, Rodriguez offered no explanation.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us that you into the movie theater, but that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really pair out.

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<v Speaker 2>We're having trouble finding me on.

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<v Speaker 1>The McDonald's videotape, to think maybe you were acted.

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<v Speaker 2>Somewhere else and.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>All he said was that he wasn't at the mall,

515
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<v Speaker 2>but detectives had footage of him inside the mall. Authority

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<v Speaker 2>soon obtained a search warrant for Rodriguez's car, a two

517
00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 2>thousand and two Mercury Sable sedan. The vehicle appeared clean,

518
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:33.599
<v Speaker 2>almost meticulously so, suggesting somebody had recently attempted to remove evidence.

519
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.159
<v Speaker 2>Inside the spare tire well, detectives found a black folding

520
00:34:38.199 --> 00:34:41.400
<v Speaker 2>lock blade knife, the type that would normally have a

521
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:45.440
<v Speaker 2>tool shop sheath, but there was no sheath to be found.

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<v Speaker 2>The knife was also found lying in a pool of

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<v Speaker 2>household cleaner, as if somebody had tried to scrub it.

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<v Speaker 2>Spotless bloodstains were discovered. On the back seat near the

525
00:34:56.159 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 2>rear passenger window and in two other areas. DNA testing

526
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 2>confirmed the worse. The blood and the knife contained Drew's DNA,

527
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<v Speaker 2>with the evidence minding. Rodriguez was charged with kidnapping an

528
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<v Speaker 2>order to be held on five million dollar bill. In court,

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<v Speaker 2>his lawyers argued that he wanted to remain behind bars

530
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<v Speaker 2>at least temporarily, citing concerns for his own safety. The

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<v Speaker 2>arrest brought a chilling reality to Drew's family and friends

532
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>hoped that she might still be alive plummeted. Her cousin

533
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Speaker 2>Jason Nelson expressed, we're human, so we're scared when we

534
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:37.199
<v Speaker 2>learned of his history, But his history is also that

535
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:40.079
<v Speaker 2>he is not escalated to murder, so that leaves the

536
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 2>family with hope that drystol out there. Winter tightened its

537
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.800
<v Speaker 2>grip on the region. The bitter cold and deep snow

538
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 2>forced volunteer searchers to step back, leaving the National Guard

539
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:58.280
<v Speaker 2>to continue the efforts in humvies and insulated suits. Rob Keller,

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<v Speaker 2>a spokesman for the North Dakota Army National Guard, said

541
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<v Speaker 2>cold weather does make the job harder. One of the

542
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:07.039
<v Speaker 2>things we don't want to have happen is one of

543
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:11.079
<v Speaker 2>our soldiers get injured. By the twenty seventh of December,

544
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Drow's family had raised almost sixty thousand dollars to support

545
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:19.679
<v Speaker 2>search efforts, a testament to the community's determination and dedication.

546
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.519
<v Speaker 2>But beyond the immediate search, the case sparked broader conversations

547
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:29.440
<v Speaker 2>about public safety and legal protections. By January, lawmakers and

548
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:34.039
<v Speaker 2>prosecutors began examining the state's laws regarding repeat sex offenders.

549
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Cass County State's Attorney Birch Burdick explained the significance of

550
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<v Speaker 2>the case. I don't think there's a prosecutor anywhere that

551
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:45.760
<v Speaker 2>isn't aware of what's going on in the Dru shadaiin

552
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:48.840
<v Speaker 2>matter and hasn't had an opportunity to think about what

553
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 2>that means in their own community. The focus was on

554
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<v Speaker 2>North Dakoda's nineteen ninety seven law, which allowed people deemed

555
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<v Speaker 2>sexually dangerous by at least two experts to be held

556
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<v Speaker 2>in definitely in the state hospital. In Jamestown. District judges

557
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<v Speaker 2>preside over these civil commitment hearings, which can be initiated

558
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<v Speaker 2>either before or after a criminal conviction. State penitentiary officials

559
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 2>often evaluate sex offenders before release, assessing the risk they

560
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:21.159
<v Speaker 2>might pose. Since the laws enactment, twelve offenders had been

561
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:25.920
<v Speaker 2>committed under this provision. The shitting case prompted prosecutors in

562
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:30.880
<v Speaker 2>larger North Dakota cities to consider recommending more prisoners for

563
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>civil commitment. By March, Drew's family, friends, and supporters appeared

564
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:39.960
<v Speaker 2>before the Senate Crime Prevention and Public Safety Committee and

565
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:44.960
<v Speaker 2>urged lawmakers to pass legislation imposing tougher penalties for sex offenders.

566
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<v Speaker 2>Drew's boyfriend, Chris, spoke plainly about the gaps in the system.

567
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<v Speaker 2>Somehow he got through the cracks of a system that

568
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem to work. These people are walking time bombs.

569
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<v Speaker 2>The resulting legislation created longer sentences for all sex offense

570
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<v Speaker 2>and life sentences without parole for those who committed crimes

571
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:09.119
<v Speaker 2>targeting children or other vulnerable people. It also allowed for

572
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:15.000
<v Speaker 2>indeterminate sentences for individuals charged with lesser sex crimes. By

573
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<v Speaker 2>the next month, the House had approved the bill, a

574
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<v Speaker 2>somber legislative response to a tragedy that had already devastated

575
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<v Speaker 2>a community. By spring, the relentless grip of winter had

576
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 2>finally begun to loosen. The snow that had hindered so

577
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<v Speaker 2>many search efforts slowly started to melt, revealing the frozen

578
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:45.239
<v Speaker 2>earth beneath. With the thaw came a renewed focus on

579
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<v Speaker 2>a specific area west of Croxton, a site that had

580
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<v Speaker 2>previously drawn the attention of search teams. It was in

581
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<v Speaker 2>this area that a bloodhound named Calamity Jane had alerted

582
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<v Speaker 2>to a cent. During the cold winter months, the snow

583
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<v Speaker 2>at the time had been thirst searching almost impossible. On

584
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<v Speaker 2>the morning of the seventeenth of April, searchers returned to

585
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>the area, determined not to let another opportunity slip by.

586
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<v Speaker 2>The focus was north of Polk County Road sixty one,

587
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:17.000
<v Speaker 2>roughly two miles from where Drew's shoe had been found

588
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.960
<v Speaker 2>months earlier. Among the searchers was Dick Roue, a retired

589
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:25.960
<v Speaker 2>debuty who had joined the effort early on. For Dick,

590
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the search had become personal. After months of scoring the countryside,

591
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Drew's case had come to feel like looking for his

592
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>own daughter. That morning, Dick and a fellow searcher were

593
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:39.599
<v Speaker 2>navigating a steep ravine that fed into the Red Lake River.

594
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Dick had walked roughly seventy yards from the country road

595
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<v Speaker 2>when something on a small plateau caught his eye. The

596
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:51.440
<v Speaker 2>plateau was about thirty feet below a steep drop, the

597
00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of hidden vantage point that could easily be missed.

598
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I was up on top, and I just saw something black,

599
00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Dick later recalled, carefully making it his weight on the slope.

600
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<v Speaker 2>He approached the object, initially thinking it was a coat

601
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.960
<v Speaker 2>discarded by the wind, but as he drew closer, the

602
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:12.440
<v Speaker 2>horrifying reality became clear. Beneath the coat lay the body

603
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:16.280
<v Speaker 2>of Drew shading. She was nude from the waist down,

604
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<v Speaker 2>with her hands bond behind her back. A rope ligature

605
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:24.760
<v Speaker 2>encircled her neck, remnants of a plastic Kmart shopping bag

606
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:29.000
<v Speaker 2>still clinging to it. Her body bore slash and stab

607
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<v Speaker 2>wounds to the throat and side, as well as bruises

608
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<v Speaker 2>across her right arm and the right side of her face.

609
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<v Speaker 2>Nearby lay her cell phone and the other missing shoe.

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<v Speaker 2>Dick remembered the moment vividly. I stood there and let

611
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<v Speaker 2>it sink in a little bit. Even though that was

612
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<v Speaker 2>what we were looking for, it was still a shock.

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<v Speaker 2>The news of Drew's death spread like wildfire. While many

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<v Speaker 2>had feared this outcome, its confirmation still hit the community

615
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:02.719
<v Speaker 2>like a physical blue. Drew's father, Alan expressed the mixture

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<v Speaker 2>of grief and grim inevitability that the family had felt.

617
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<v Speaker 2>It's bittersweet. It's kind of what we've been preparing ourselves for.

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<v Speaker 2>We were waiting for that call, and when it came,

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<v Speaker 2>we all stopped living for a second. Her boyfriend Chris

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<v Speaker 2>echoed the same numbness. When I woke up this morning,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it would be today. With all these resources,

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<v Speaker 2>we said we were going to bring her home, and

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<v Speaker 2>we did. Now I know she's been at peace for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. A few days later, our friends and

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<v Speaker 2>family gathered to celebrate Drew's life across Sagg Lutheran Church.

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<v Speaker 2>The parking lot overflowed, cars lined the streets, and the

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<v Speaker 2>solemn possession of mourners reflected the depth of the community's loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Pink floor surrounded Drew's silver casket, and above it was

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<v Speaker 2>a photograph of her smiling face. Following the public viewing,

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<v Speaker 2>her funeral was held at the Grand View Lodge in Niswa,

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<v Speaker 2>where her family and friends paid their final respects. While

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<v Speaker 2>the community grave, federal prosecutors were already preparing a case

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<v Speaker 2>against Alphonso Rodriguez Junior. In May, it was announced that

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<v Speaker 2>he would be federally charged with kidnapping resulting in death,

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<v Speaker 2>making him eligible for the death penalty, a rare and

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<v Speaker 2>significant development. Neither North Dakota nor Minnesota, where Drew's body

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<v Speaker 2>was found, allowed for capital punishment under state law. The

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<v Speaker 2>trial would mark the first federal death penalty case in

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<v Speaker 2>North Dakota in over a century. The case had repel

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<v Speaker 2>effects far beyond the courtroom. Bob Hales, a private investigator

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<v Speaker 2>who worked closely on Drew's case, began lawbying federal lawmakers

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<v Speaker 2>to establish a national sex offender registry. The proposal aimed

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<v Speaker 2>to provide the public with accessible information about sex offenders

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<v Speaker 2>living nearby, a direct response to the tragedy that had

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<v Speaker 2>struck Drew's family. The legislation, which was dubbed Drew's Law,

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<v Speaker 2>was approved by House panel in July two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 2>The law became part of the Adam Walsh Child Protection Act,

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<v Speaker 2>signed by President George W. Bush almost a year later.

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<v Speaker 2>Drew's Law created the first national sex offender database, enabling

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<v Speaker 2>the public to see where offenders lived and providing mechanisms

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<v Speaker 2>to trace them. It established new minimum sentences for crimes

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<v Speaker 2>against children, mandatory prison time for failing to register as

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<v Speaker 2>a sex offender, and funded the use of GPS monitoring.

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<v Speaker 2>It also mandated routine DNA collection from convicted sex offenders

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<v Speaker 2>and created a federal database to match genetic material from

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<v Speaker 2>child molesters. Victims of child abuse were granted the right

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<v Speaker 2>to sue their abusers, marking one of the most sweeping

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<v Speaker 2>legislative efforts to protect children in decades. Through the tragedy,

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<v Speaker 2>Drew Shadein's name became a catalyst for change, a legacy

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<v Speaker 2>that extended beyond grief, ensuring that future commit unities would

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<v Speaker 2>have the tools to track and monitor those who preyed

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<v Speaker 2>on the vulnerable. The federal kidnapping trial began on the

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<v Speaker 2>fifteenth of August. During opening statements, defense attorney Robert Hoy

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<v Speaker 2>attempted to dismantle the government's case before it even started.

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<v Speaker 2>He told jurors that Druscha Dein had died too quickly

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<v Speaker 2>for this to qualify as the federal crime. According to Hoi,

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<v Speaker 2>prosecutors would never be able to prove that she was

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<v Speaker 2>alive when Alphonso Rodriguez transported her across state lines the

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<v Speaker 2>technical detail required for the charge of federal kidnapping. He

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<v Speaker 2>claimed that Drew had been killed within minutes of her abduction,

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<v Speaker 2>and that the transportation of a dead body simply didn't

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<v Speaker 2>meet the definition of the statute. He argued, this is

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong case in the wrong court. Even if jurors

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<v Speaker 2>believed that Rodriguez was responsible, he said, they should acquit

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<v Speaker 2>him on the federal charge. The government has to prove

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<v Speaker 2>she was alive when transported, he told them, But prosecutor

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<v Speaker 2>Keith Reisner flatly rejected this argument. He said that the

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<v Speaker 2>evidence would prove beyond doubt that Rodriguez took Drew across

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<v Speaker 2>state lines while still alive before raping her, stabbing her,

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<v Speaker 2>and leaving her to die in the ditch. Forensic evidence

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<v Speaker 2>soon painted a disturbing picture. Fibers from Drew's black coat

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<v Speaker 2>were discovered in Rodriguez's car, while a hare on her

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<v Speaker 2>coat matched his. DNA. Fibers from a blanket on Rodriguez's

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<v Speaker 2>bed were consistent with those recovered on the knife sheaf

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<v Speaker 2>found behind Drew's car. A pink cotton shirt found on

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<v Speaker 2>Drew's body carried fibers that matched those from Rodriguez's car,

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<v Speaker 2>his boots, and a pair of gloves seized from his home.

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<v Speaker 2>Drew's blood was also discovered in his car and on

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<v Speaker 2>the knife itself. Doctor Michael McGee, forensic scientists, presented damning testimony.

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<v Speaker 2>His autopsy report made it unlikely that Drew had died

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<v Speaker 2>in the parking lot where she was abducted. Instead, he

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<v Speaker 2>concluded that her wounds were most likely inflicted at the

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<v Speaker 2>ravine where her body was found. Blood patterns on her

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<v Speaker 2>clothing and inside the car suggested she had been alive

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<v Speaker 2>when she was transported. Defensive wounds on her forearms showed

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<v Speaker 2>that she had fought back. McGee told jurors that she

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately died from suffocation, a neck wound, or exposure, possibly

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<v Speaker 2>a combination of all three. The evidence was overwhelming. After

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<v Speaker 2>less than four hours of deliberation, the jury returned with

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<v Speaker 2>a guilty verdict against Alphons over Driguez Junior, clearing the

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<v Speaker 2>way for the penalty phase of the trial. Before sentencing began,

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<v Speaker 2>the judge ruled that Rodriguez's family wouldn't be allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>make emotional plays to save his life. Their statements, like

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<v Speaker 2>those of Drew's family, would be stricted. During the penalty phase,

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<v Speaker 2>the defense attempted to humanize Rodriguez. Psychologist Marilyn Hutchinson told

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<v Speaker 2>the court that there were three Rodriguezes, one kind and thoughtful,

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<v Speaker 2>another cocky and boastful, and a third angry and dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>She testified that Rodriguez had endured severe physical and psychological

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<v Speaker 2>trauma from birth, leaving his brain and personality stunted at

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<v Speaker 2>the level of a ten to thirteen year old child.

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<v Speaker 2>She diagnosed him with post traumatic stress disorder, explaining the

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<v Speaker 2>identity he established by default is I'm a failure. Living

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<v Speaker 2>in the world day to day is impossible for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Testimony about Rodriguez's upbringing also revealed sexual assaults he experienced

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<v Speaker 2>as a child. Case worker Ted Michelson, who once supervised Rodriguez,

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<v Speaker 2>said bluntly that he never should have been released from prison.

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<v Speaker 2>The prosecution counjured this narrative with their own expert. Doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Stephen Pitt, told jurors that Rodriguez didn't suffer from PTSD

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<v Speaker 2>at all. Instead, he argued, Rodriguez displayed traits of paraphilia

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<v Speaker 2>deviant sexual behavior, including phantasies involving humiliation and force. This time,

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<v Speaker 2>the jury deliberated for longer, but in the end they

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<v Speaker 2>determined that Rodriguez deserve the ultimate punishment. He was sentenced

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<v Speaker 2>to death for the abduction and murder of dru Shaedeen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's out of court. Drew's mother, Linda said, Drew's voice

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<v Speaker 2>was heard today and hopefully we'll be sounded around the

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<v Speaker 2>world because we don't tolerate any longer the violence against women,

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<v Speaker 2>much less our children. Her father, Allen, who had been

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<v Speaker 2>present for every moment of the trial, added, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>almost a thousand days since Drew's disappearance and death. It's

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<v Speaker 2>her strength that has driven us, her compassion, her serious

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<v Speaker 2>love for everyone, that give us the qualities to continue

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<v Speaker 2>this battle. He said. The family would have been equally

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<v Speaker 2>satisfied with life in prison without parole, a punishment that,

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<v Speaker 2>unbeknownst to him at the time, would eventually replace the

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<v Speaker 2>death penalty. In October two thousand and eleven, rodriguez defense

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<v Speaker 2>team filed the Habeas corpus motion, arguing that he was

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<v Speaker 2>mentally disabled. Habeas corpus petitions allowed prisoners to challenge their

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<v Speaker 2>imprisonment or sentence, often by raising claims that their constitutional

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<v Speaker 2>rights were violated. Years later, In two thousand and twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>the same judge who had once sentenced him to death,

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<v Speaker 2>Ralph R. Ericsson, who was now serving on the Escort

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<v Speaker 2>of Appeals, overturned the death sentence. He ruled that the

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<v Speaker 2>testimony of doctor Michael mc gee, the medical examiner, had

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<v Speaker 2>been unreliable, misleading, and inaccurate. Erickson also found that Rodriguez's

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<v Speaker 2>lawyers had failed him by limiting his mental health evaluation,

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<v Speaker 2>which could have allowed for an insanity defense. On the

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<v Speaker 2>fourteenth of March two thousand and twenty three, prosecutors formally

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<v Speaker 2>announced that they were no longer seeking the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 2>Two months later, on the eighteenth of May, Rodriguez was

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<v Speaker 2>re sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

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<v Speaker 2>For Drew's family, it was the final chapter in a

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<v Speaker 2>decades long battle for justice. While the punishment had shifted

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<v Speaker 2>from death to life, their daughter's voice had still been

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<v Speaker 2>heard in the courtroom, just as Linda had said all

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<v Speaker 2>those years earlier. Rodriguez would spend the rest of his

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<v Speaker 2>life behind bars, but Drew's legacy lives on outside the

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<v Speaker 2>prison walls, in the memories of her loved ones and

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<v Speaker 2>Drew's law that is it for this episode of Morbidology.

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<v Speaker 2>As always, thank you so much for listening, and I'd

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<v Speaker 2>off on Patreon, I upload ad free and early release

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the checks out at morbidology dot com for more

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