Speaker 1: Welcome back to Raised by Giants special episode follow up
Speaker 1: to the last Schizospiracy the Mega Burrito Hour. But this
Speaker 1: isn't a Maga Burrito ho, this isn't a Maga Burrito episode.
Speaker 1: Those are on the third Monday of every month. This
Speaker 1: is a special episode where we're going to be talking
Speaker 1: about Severance Season two. The final episode of season two
Speaker 1: just dropped last week, and here to talk about it
Speaker 1: with us, the host of the one on one podcast
Speaker 1: to Get Weird one A Alla, how's it going?
Speaker 2: My friend was, how do I sound? I sound like
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to sound, and like not like last time?
Speaker 1: You sound good? Okay, coming through loud and clear with
Speaker 1: the micael cool.
Speaker 2: We're here and we're queer right, Oh okay whatever, We're
Speaker 2: here to talk about Severance.
Speaker 3: Dude. It got pretty crazy, man, I'm ready and there's
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff. There's a lot of Easter eggs too,
Speaker 3: bro that people.
Speaker 2: I was like watching theory videos on it and all
Speaker 2: the craziness that people are coming up with, like the
Speaker 2: conspiracies within the show, and it gets wild, dude.
Speaker 3: Like first season, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Be honest, they ain't have me Like the first half
Speaker 2: but it's one of these shows that you watch it
Speaker 2: and it all starts to make sense towards the end.
Speaker 2: You go, oh, that's why that happened, or that's why
Speaker 2: that's happening. You start to connect the dots after the fact,
Speaker 2: and you don't really appreciate it because it is a
Speaker 2: slow burn, dude. It's like a really really slow burn.
Speaker 2: You're just grinding through the entire thing. And then season
Speaker 2: two was like boom bro it went crazy.
Speaker 3: It went crazy.
Speaker 1: It did get really crazy, and one of my favorite
Speaker 1: episodes of the whole thing was the Corbel episode. I
Speaker 1: think that the Corbell I really like that one. It
Speaker 1: was kind of off, it was kind of different. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like the Breaking Bad episode with the fly.
Speaker 1: Did you watch Breaking Bad? The Fly episode where it's
Speaker 1: like super freaking random and doesn't make any sense and
Speaker 1: it's just like an episode where they're trying to kill
Speaker 1: a freaking fly the entire episode. But that's what this
Speaker 1: episode felt like. But I thought that it was. It
Speaker 1: brought the character of Corbell and wrapped it all together
Speaker 1: really nicely, and we figure out the Corbell all in.
Speaker 1: Spoiler warnings for anybody that hasn't seen season two or
Speaker 1: it hasn't even seen the first season. We covered the
Speaker 1: first season and the schizospiracy episode number two. Now we're
Speaker 1: going to be covering the second season here because is
Speaker 1: all caught up. And I just thought that it was
Speaker 1: a really good fleshing out of the character because we
Speaker 1: didn't really get any information of exactly what was going
Speaker 1: on with her. And it turns out that she essentially
Speaker 1: created all of the technology of the Severance, like technology
Speaker 1: that they use, and they stole it from her. Well
Speaker 1: they sort of QUASEI stole it. They kind of told
Speaker 1: her to like, shut shut up, and you know, you
Speaker 1: got to serve Kiera during this whole thing and take
Speaker 1: a back seat to this, but we'll give you a
Speaker 1: management position, you know, and then they kind of like
Speaker 1: screw her over and then she's like, oh, well, you
Speaker 1: guys just screwed the wrong person on this thing, which
Speaker 1: I think that they were going to kill her. Remember
Speaker 1: whenever she went to meet with Elly at the Luman
Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, come on up to the thing,
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure that that's where they were going
Speaker 1: to kill her. But she knew that they were going
Speaker 1: to kill her, so she turned around and got in
Speaker 1: her car and left. And that's whenever she went to
Speaker 1: this orphanage type place, which I'm not it seems like
Speaker 1: an orphanage. Did not look like an orphanage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure exactly, but she was she was.
Speaker 2: He wasn't severed the entire time she was there, right, right?
Speaker 3: Or was she?
Speaker 1: I don't think she was now right.
Speaker 2: Because like it started, like these things start to make
Speaker 2: sense after the fact where you go because and they did.
Speaker 3: They did a really good job.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, you have to pay attention when
Speaker 2: it comes to shows like this because if you're not
Speaker 2: paying attention, it can get a little crazy, right, especially
Speaker 2: in the in the last episode when they're going up
Speaker 2: through floors and they're switching between the innye and the audi,
Speaker 2: and then the the episode where he's having a conversation
Speaker 2: with his any with the camera. But then it's a
Speaker 2: special lodge, the birthing lodge, that they have to be
Speaker 2: in in order to do that, which is bro that
Speaker 2: that's Masonic, like that concept of a Pythagorean palace, which
Speaker 2: I've talked about. It's a Now again, this is technology, right,
Speaker 2: but any technology indistinguishable from magic, right, any sophisticated technology
Speaker 2: is indistinguishable from magic, right, That's the whole thing. And
Speaker 2: a Pathagoora and Palace says that if you build a
Speaker 2: structure to certain geometric restrictions, it can elevate the consciousness
Speaker 2: of a person within it, or a group of people.
Speaker 3: This is why masonicologies are built. The way that they're built.
Speaker 2: And the way that you can elevate someone's consciousness, you
Speaker 2: can also suppress someone's consciousness. So think about it and
Speaker 2: the severed way where once they go in, they're tapping
Speaker 2: into a different part of themselves, a different personality. And
Speaker 2: then it all starts to come full circle when they
Speaker 2: reveal what the numbers were, what all the names of
Speaker 2: the files were, and I was just like, this is
Speaker 2: too much. And then it starts to get into the
Speaker 2: ethics of it all, which the whole show was sort
Speaker 2: of about the ethics of this is it? And the
Speaker 2: question that we asked on the last episode, can would
Speaker 2: you sever yourself? Would you go that far to get
Speaker 2: a paycheck or whatever it is? We don't know why exactly, well,
Speaker 2: we do know why in the in the story in
Speaker 2: the show why he did that. He kind of wanted
Speaker 2: to separate himself from the death of his wife. Right,
Speaker 2: he was depressed. He tried to be the professor or
Speaker 2: the teacher that he was, but he just kept seeing
Speaker 2: her everywhere. Like that's what they said, that he kept
Speaker 2: seeing her everywhere and he couldn't get over it. So
Speaker 2: he did it in a way to kind of shut
Speaker 2: off for however many hours, was it like nine to five?
Speaker 2: Sometimes they work like nine to six, like really late hours,
Speaker 2: and he was disconnected. You go out, you go home.
Speaker 2: He was drinking a lot when he was home. Right,
Speaker 2: So again, depressed guy who just wanted to just get by,
Speaker 2: I guess. And so the ethics of it really got
Speaker 2: to me where I'm like, I forgot which which scene
Speaker 2: it was where all the two gay dudes, the guy
Speaker 2: that what's that actor's name he's really famous from from Click.
Speaker 3: Christopher Walking, Christopher Walking, Oh my god, dude.
Speaker 2: Brain Christopher Walking and his husband right when they're talking
Speaker 2: about which by the way, was weird because he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, when we went to church, and the guy's like,
Speaker 2: you guys went to church, you know.
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, we went to church so that his
Speaker 3: any would be saved.
Speaker 2: Because then it starts to get into the whole concept
Speaker 2: of do anyes have souls? And if they do have souls,
Speaker 2: can they be saved? And bro this is directly out
Speaker 2: of like fifteenth century homunculous talk where it's like do
Speaker 2: homunculus have souls? Can they be saved? Did God die
Speaker 2: for that creation?
Speaker 3: Sin?
Speaker 2: And essentially when you create in any you're creating another
Speaker 2: life form, but it's yours, right, So it's so weird
Speaker 2: where you see you know, you got the perspective of
Speaker 2: the ny where he's arguing his case, like, hey, help
Speaker 2: me save my wife, and then he's like, I think
Speaker 2: that once you save your wife, you're going to forget
Speaker 2: all about me, right, And then obviously we have how
Speaker 2: the series ended, which I wasn't expecting it to end
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I thought he was going to go through with it.
Speaker 2: But again, then what where do they think they're going?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 1: I know, I know that's a really confusing part. And
Speaker 1: I thought that was really interesting too with Christopher walking
Speaker 1: and Irving whenever they were talking about that, because that
Speaker 1: brings a different, completely different aspect to it. It's like
Speaker 1: a spiritual type of consciousness aspect in there. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of mirroring stuff that was going on as well,
Speaker 1: Like with Kobel, whenever she is in the weird area
Speaker 1: at the home or whatever, whenever she goes upstairs and
Speaker 1: she grabs that mask that her mom was supposedly on,
Speaker 1: like a ventilation mask, like well, I think it was
Speaker 1: a respirator or whatever it is that helped people breathe
Speaker 1: whenever their you know, their lungs or they have a
Speaker 1: really bad upper respiratory infection ventilator and she was breathing
Speaker 1: through it. But if you remember at the end of
Speaker 1: season one, whenever she gets fired from Lumen and she
Speaker 1: goes into the she's on the Masonic floor and she
Speaker 1: destroys all the stuff that's in our house, she's gripping
Speaker 1: a hold of that exact same ventilator mask.
Speaker 3: Dude, really, i't Yeah, whenever she's.
Speaker 1: Laying on the Masonic check her board floor at the
Speaker 1: end of the first season, she's gripping onto the the
Speaker 1: same type of ventilation mask that she has in her house.
Speaker 1: And then it's the exact same thing whenever she's in
Speaker 1: season two and at the home, whenever her mom, that
Speaker 1: lady that works there or lives there or whatever supposedly
Speaker 1: killed her mom or whatever, and she's upstairs in her
Speaker 1: bed working on the ventilator.
Speaker 2: So the theory with the whole thing is that the
Speaker 2: main Eagan guy, which is, let me find his name here,
Speaker 2: the main guy, James Egan. They're kind of hinting at that.
Speaker 2: I guess he was married to her mom, and then
Speaker 2: that she might be I could be getting I could
Speaker 2: be mixing all this up. But anyways, point being that
Speaker 2: Corbell might be Mark's mom and this is the reason
Speaker 2: why she was kind of involved with the labor process
Speaker 2: of like one, you know, what was she doing there?
Speaker 2: She was pretending to be the selactation nurse, was kind
Speaker 2: of caring for the child, and the theory goes that
Speaker 2: she might be Mark's mom. In this series of they
Speaker 2: were trying to and this is where it gets weird, bro,
Speaker 2: because they were trying to birth like the perfect almost
Speaker 2: almost like a moon child, but with the Kier spirit.
Speaker 2: And this comes into play when James Egan walks in
Speaker 2: on Helly the any of his daughter and he said,
Speaker 2: you know he was when she goes to kind of
Speaker 2: stab him, she goes he goes, oh, there it is,
Speaker 2: you know the spirit of Kiera or whatever.
Speaker 3: The fire. He says something along those lines.
Speaker 2: And what they're hinting at is that Helly's any has
Speaker 2: this kier spirit, but her Audi doesn't. So James Egan
Speaker 2: prefers that any of his daughter and loves that any
Speaker 2: of his.
Speaker 3: Daughter, but not her Audi. Bro.
Speaker 2: But it's all tied in with the mom of Corbel
Speaker 2: and everything, and I want to say that the way
Speaker 2: they broke it down, and I forgot how it went,
Speaker 2: that Corbell's mom might have been one of these, because
Speaker 2: James Egan hints at kind of sort of spreading his
Speaker 2: seat around and having many Deeter Egan right, The is
Speaker 2: an anagram for AI generated. So they have this other
Speaker 2: weird aspect of like the story of Kiera and his
Speaker 2: brother and then his brother dying in the what.
Speaker 3: Do they call that other realm that was frozen? Was
Speaker 3: it the planes?
Speaker 2: It's not, it's it's a place that they're they're speculating
Speaker 2: that that's a place that exists in the in the
Speaker 2: Innis world, in the Innies reality.
Speaker 3: So the entire.
Speaker 2: Building of Bro, the entire building of Lumen is kind
Speaker 2: of like a portal, and these Innis are able to
Speaker 2: access other places, and this is where the Hall comes
Speaker 2: into place, and these liminal spaces that we talked about
Speaker 2: before comes into place. So I'm gonna find the outdoor
Speaker 2: retreat place of where where it is?
Speaker 1: Oh, I saw that that was like a real place.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that that was inside.
Speaker 2: Of Peter Egan National Force, the men Minawaska State Park
Speaker 2: Reserve and this is in ker Honk Stint ker Honk Sin.
Speaker 3: New York.
Speaker 2: H So yeah, the Ortbow the outdoor retreating team building
Speaker 2: occurrence by Milchick. And by the way, I mean, I
Speaker 2: think I think Milchick's my favorite character Shadow. When he
Speaker 2: gives them the paper, he just like runs out, Dude,
Speaker 2: It's so funny. And then when he's doing the dancing
Speaker 2: with the with the band, he's like breaking it down
Speaker 2: doing the choreography and everything with the with the wand
Speaker 2: or whatever he was doing.
Speaker 3: Bro, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I joked whenever I was watching it, I was like,
Speaker 1: is this what Milchik has been doing this entire time?
Speaker 1: Is preparing all this freaking choreography. That's why he's not
Speaker 1: getting anything done and he's behind because he's doing all
Speaker 1: this dance choreography and preparing for the final Cold Harbor completion,
Speaker 1: which that part is kind of confusing to me as well.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of open ended things. We still needs hollow.
Speaker 1: What was hell That's what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the here and here's the thing, so Deeter
Speaker 2: Egan National Forest and the waterfall being Woe's hollow. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna look up to see if Deeder Egan National Force
Speaker 2: exists in the Severance universe, because if it doesn't, then
Speaker 2: it's this liminal space outside of reality that.
Speaker 3: Only existed for them in that time being. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of seemed like a simulation because it
Speaker 1: started out with I think Irving like out on the ice,
Speaker 1: and I was like, are they in a simulation? But
Speaker 1: then they made it seem like it was actually real
Speaker 1: the further the episode went into it and the further
Speaker 1: things went in because they were talking about like dying
Speaker 1: out there, if they could die out there, and then
Speaker 1: Irving is essentially like lost and like after Helly and
Speaker 1: then he attempts to kill Helly. So it's it seems
Speaker 1: like it was really happening. So I don't really know
Speaker 1: how that works and how they even got them there.
Speaker 2: This part is reminding me of like, uh, that show
Speaker 2: that movie that we watched, What the hell is it
Speaker 2: called Cattle Lake? Where it's like super confusing here, pull
Speaker 2: up my screen here real quick. So I'm trying to
Speaker 2: figure out if Deeter Egan National Force is an actual place.
Speaker 2: So ker Pe is that where we're at?
Speaker 3: Fictional town?
Speaker 2: So it is an actual place in the town a
Speaker 2: corporate town built by illumin Industries for its employees and name.
Speaker 2: The town is named after Kir Egan and several locations
Speaker 2: also named for other members of the Egan family. So
Speaker 2: I guess it is a real place, but it did
Speaker 2: seem it did seem like simulation esque for a little
Speaker 2: while there. Yeah, And here's a forested wilderness area and
Speaker 2: kere Pe named after Kier Egan's twin brother Deeter Egan,
Speaker 2: which again is an anagram for AI generated in the
Speaker 2: area contains several landmarks, including Scissor Cave, where Kier Egan
Speaker 2: was said by Seth Miltrick to have tamed the four tempers,
Speaker 2: and Woe's Hollow, where Kir claims to have met the
Speaker 2: temper Woe for the first time. It also contains a
Speaker 2: lake overlooked by a rocky promontory which resembles a scene
Speaker 2: depicted in the Kere cycle painting. Kier invites you to
Speaker 2: drink his wa, drink his water, I mean drink of
Speaker 2: his water, which in al chemical terms that's semen bro
Speaker 2: that's that's uh, the water is semen. So here we
Speaker 2: have Kier invite you to drink his water. People are
Speaker 2: saying this resembles the the the Michigan Lakes right the
Speaker 2: Grand Lakes. And also this painting reminds me of this
Speaker 2: other painting could have swore was related to oo, this
Speaker 2: one right here starting today, let's see it reminds me
Speaker 2: of have you seen this painting before?
Speaker 1: No, but it looks very similar.
Speaker 3: It does.
Speaker 2: Here you go Casper David Frederick The Soul of Nature.
Speaker 2: You imagine European landscampaigning by portraying nature as a setting
Speaker 2: for a profound, spiritual and emotional encounters, working in the
Speaker 2: Van Oud of German Romantic movement, which campaign So the
Speaker 2: Soul of Nature. Let's look up to see if there's
Speaker 2: any esoteric, esoteric meaning for this particular and for those listening,
Speaker 2: it's a painting of a man overlooking a cliff essentially,
Speaker 2: and he's looking into the wilderness. And essentially and this
Speaker 2: is Ai by the way, so just take it for
Speaker 2: whatever it's worth. An esoteric context, the soul of nature
Speaker 2: often refers to the belief that nature possesses a fundamental,
Speaker 2: interconnected and spiritual essence mirroring our own souls, and that
Speaker 2: connecting with nature can lead to deeper self awareness and
Speaker 2: spiritual growth. Which that's not wrong. I mean, when you
Speaker 2: go out into nature, you're supposed to connect with I
Speaker 2: don't want to say reality, but it kind of in
Speaker 2: a way, you're connecting to reality a little bit more. Right,
Speaker 2: you meditate, you do if you do yoga, then you
Speaker 2: you know, you stretch out there, look at this. Nature
Speaker 2: is the portal to the soul, a gateway to the self.
Speaker 2: So again this show is getting very kind of Youngion
Speaker 2: in a way.
Speaker 3: It was about.
Speaker 2: Looking within and the end is the any. Right, the
Speaker 2: ani is your I don't want to say dark self,
Speaker 2: but kind of r it's your ego. And when your
Speaker 2: ego sometimes as a want to let go, which was
Speaker 2: the whole problem that Mark was having when he's trying
Speaker 2: to convince his any to help him save his wife,
Speaker 2: and he's like no, no, no, no, no, I'm in love
Speaker 2: with Helly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's who I'm in love with him.
Speaker 2: And if I save your wife, that means I won't
Speaker 2: be with the person that I want to be with.
Speaker 3: So again, now the whole.
Speaker 2: After the season ends, now people are getting into the
Speaker 2: theory of perhaps James Egan is gonna have a way
Speaker 2: for Helly's any to be permanent, because that's the one
Speaker 2: that has.
Speaker 3: That Kier fire, that Kier spirit.
Speaker 2: Which I don't know if they're trying to manifest something
Speaker 2: bro like in reality. Because the weird animatronic scene where
Speaker 2: Milchik is talking and kind of arguing with the animatronic
Speaker 2: where it's kind of going off script, people are speculating
Speaker 2: that that might still have Kierre's consciousness to a certain level.
Speaker 2: If it was and by the way, that was Ben
Speaker 2: Steller's voice the Kier animatronic, that that was and that's.
Speaker 1: What it was. We were looking that up on the
Speaker 1: last show. Mm hm. We saw who was Keanu Reeves.
Speaker 2: Was the building in the video that they showed him
Speaker 2: where it's like here at lowin we care about what
Speaker 2: youth and like they were showing them the tribute to
Speaker 2: their department.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was so weird. Dude, like, why would
Speaker 1: you why would you go ahead first and deep into
Speaker 1: the uprising at Lumen? Dude, Like that was so strange.
Speaker 1: That must only be for the people inside of Lumen,
Speaker 1: because there's no way that they made that for people.
Speaker 1: There's normal, everyday people. For a commercial that you would show.
Speaker 2: To the like the audis, yeah, this is the this
Speaker 2: is the video where they're thinking that they're like thanking
Speaker 2: them for for doing the uprising and kind of doing
Speaker 2: this video of like making them feel that they made
Speaker 2: a difference. That was Keanu Reeves's voice.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was wondering where they were, but I binge
Speaker 1: them kind of back to back to back to back.
Speaker 2: Me too and that, And this is gonna be one
Speaker 2: of those shows where you're gonna have to go back
Speaker 2: and rewatch. So what I'll probably do is have to
Speaker 2: rewatch season two when season three comes out to get
Speaker 2: a fresher, like a refresher on the whole lore because honestly,
Speaker 2: it kind of goes deep. And I was asking you,
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, is there any books on this, like,
Speaker 2: cause it's kind of interesting once you start getting into it,
Speaker 2: you want to learn more about the the lure because
Speaker 2: what interests me the most about this particular.
Speaker 3: Show was.
Speaker 2: That, mind you, I talk about the esoteric and the
Speaker 2: occult and things of this nature, and the reason that
Speaker 2: this name, you know, nature is the portal to the
Speaker 2: self and all this sort of stuff interests me because
Speaker 2: also I've seen this painting in reference to Nietzsche, and
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, I don't remember exactly where I saw
Speaker 2: it in relation to Nietzsche. It might have been like,
Speaker 2: you know, when you're staring out into the abyss, the
Speaker 2: abyss starts to stare back into you sort of thing.
Speaker 2: So I've seen this particular painting in reference to him.
Speaker 2: And what interests me the most about this show is
Speaker 2: as I'm watching, I'm looking for this occult connotation to everything.
Speaker 2: I'm looking for this occult aspect, and this show kind
Speaker 2: of wanted to go there. It wanted to get a
Speaker 2: cult and it kind of did you know at the
Speaker 2: end of season one with the whole choreograph masonic flooring,
Speaker 2: weird ritual that they were doing where Dylan sits on
Speaker 2: the bed and puts on the head of Kier and
Speaker 2: watches the tempers exactly is essentially what he was watching, right,
Speaker 2: the tempers. That was kind of a cult, and then
Speaker 2: in season two it kind of gets a cult when
Speaker 2: it comes to the goats. Now, mind you, a baby
Speaker 2: goat is called a kid, and the kid symbolism is
Speaker 2: throughout the whole Egan thing. It was like their mascot
Speaker 2: for the school. And also you see the you know,
Speaker 2: the the.
Speaker 3: Kid.
Speaker 2: I have to pull it up here, so Egan kid
Speaker 2: school book. It was like a school book that you saw.
Speaker 2: So the baby goat stuff is right here, So go
Speaker 2: go fighting kids.
Speaker 3: And this is like a baby goat, right, go fighting kids.
Speaker 2: And this is I believe look at this, look at
Speaker 2: this theory, bro, bro it gets crazy. But point being
Speaker 2: that the goats right and you know which scene I'm
Speaker 2: talking about where they present the goat as a sacrifice,
Speaker 2: which was so weird.
Speaker 1: I didn't really understand. I mean, he was like explaining it, Drummond,
Speaker 1: Mister Drummond was explaining like why they had to do it,
Speaker 1: but it was kind of like out of love Field,
Speaker 1: and it makes you believe that it's sort of like
Speaker 1: a like what they're trying to do with the humans
Speaker 1: as well. They're essentially trying to form humans, but they're
Speaker 1: also trying to form goats to find like the perfect
Speaker 1: goat to them.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing goats in certain Druidic and other cultures,
Speaker 2: the goat is the cycle pomp. The goat is the
Speaker 2: spirit that guides the person in the afterlife. Okay, And
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull up the symbols on the table.
Speaker 3: Mark safe from becoming a sacrifice for Kir.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the table in which they put
Speaker 2: the little baby goat in because it has some symbols
Speaker 2: on it and it shows like the steps into what
Speaker 2: you're supposed to do. But again, right, you have the
Speaker 2: black goat, this guy here, you have this whole department
Speaker 2: where they're like raising these goats. But they kind of
Speaker 2: seem like like heathens, you know, like they seem like
Speaker 2: kind of uh, it's the girl from Game of Thrones,
Speaker 2: by the way, that big tall one. They kind of
Speaker 2: seem like like heathens. And I'm just thinking about the
Speaker 2: we will fight that heathens. We will fight that Hethn's
Speaker 2: a system of a down, you know, the whole thing.
Speaker 2: So the here she is right here, Severn's finally reveals
Speaker 2: the dark purpose for Luman's goat. So anyways, they're they're
Speaker 2: asking for sacrifices. Now what I thought was gonna happen
Speaker 2: because I didn't know what that that gun did. What
Speaker 2: I thought was gonna happen. This is what I was
Speaker 2: thinking as I'm watching the show. I'm thinking that they're
Speaker 2: gonna take Gemma's soul or consciousness and transfer it into
Speaker 2: this goat this kid. That's what I thought was gonna happen,
Speaker 2: because he didn't know what the gun was gonna do
Speaker 2: until he's got it up to Drummond's neck and they.
Speaker 1: That was my favorite part, dude. That was my favorite
Speaker 1: part of the entire season two when they're going down
Speaker 1: the elevator and Mark turns into his audi and he
Speaker 1: stabs Drumming in the neck with the gun. Dude, so ah, man,
Speaker 1: that was classic.
Speaker 2: The name Drummond has a certain connotation. It's got a
Speaker 2: meaning behind it, and I'm trying to find it because
Speaker 2: it meant something along so Druman meaning ridge or hill
Speaker 2: into kntting, connection to the land, to pography of Scotland.
Speaker 2: And they again they broke it down really interesting in
Speaker 2: the in the video that I was watching that didn't
Speaker 2: take any notes from.
Speaker 3: But that part got kind of a cult in a
Speaker 3: little way.
Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find a picture of
Speaker 2: the right because we've been wondering what the hell the
Speaker 2: goats were since the very beginning, like, yo, is this
Speaker 2: a connection to like mind control what exactly is going on?
Speaker 1: But what was so weird that they didn't follow up
Speaker 1: on is in the first couple of episodes, whenever Mark
Speaker 1: is going around looming with Helly and then they stumble
Speaker 1: back into the goat lodge, Uh, they asked to see
Speaker 1: their belly buttons, to lift up their shirts to show
Speaker 1: their belly buttons. Yeah, And I'm like, okay, well, this
Speaker 1: means that there's like they're cloning people here. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because if you didn't have a belly button, then that
Speaker 1: would mean that you were essentially birthed outside of the womb,
Speaker 1: that you were like your clone, because the ambilic accord
Speaker 1: to the belly button means that you were born of
Speaker 1: a natural birth. So I was like, okay, well, this
Speaker 1: definitely has something to do with cloning as well, and
Speaker 1: then they didn't really follow up on that. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: that in season three they're going to do some kind
Speaker 1: of uh follow up with the cloning stuff, because why
Speaker 1: would they put that in there? Oh, let me see
Speaker 1: your lift up your shirt and let me see you
Speaker 1: see your belly button. And Helly lifts up her shirt
Speaker 1: and Mark lifts up their shirt and they both have
Speaker 1: a belly button. And then the one guy was like,
Speaker 1: well that doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh it didn't make sense to him.
Speaker 2: But maybe this is what they're hinting at here where
Speaker 2: they're actually growing sheep.
Speaker 3: Oh, this is you know, this is a sheep, not.
Speaker 2: A goat, but where they're growing sheep in artificial matrixes,
Speaker 2: this is this is real, like this is.
Speaker 1: The first cloned animal was a sheep, Dolly the sheep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so maybe they're hinting at that.
Speaker 2: Maybe they put in a goat because the goat symbolizes
Speaker 2: like the.
Speaker 3: You know, the cycle pomp, so we find it here.
Speaker 2: You also have the Greek god Pan, Roman god Mercury,
Speaker 2: which are kind of goat. Baphomet is a freaking goat.
Speaker 2: The dude wearing the horns. So again, were they kind
Speaker 2: of getting satanic? People were saying that her her outfit
Speaker 2: right in all black was kind of satanic. And then
Speaker 2: maybe this is mirroring like the again Druidic kind of
Speaker 2: sort of origins and is that the new interpretation of
Speaker 2: like corporate America, corporate greed, we're all sheep, you know,
Speaker 2: being sacrificed to molocc essentially. I mean I don't because
Speaker 2: there's you got to remember that this show also has
Speaker 2: a lot of that underlying theme of the overreaching of
Speaker 2: corporations and things of this nature. So it might not
Speaker 2: be one hundred percent a cult and like oh look
Speaker 2: they're sacrificing goats whatever it might have like hey, you're
Speaker 2: the goat, Like you're getting sacrificed, like you're the sheep
Speaker 2: being led to the slaughter, right, Because that's also another
Speaker 2: interpretation of the whole show, which was let me look
Speaker 2: up the so now we can read the whole wiki
Speaker 2: page without without spoilers.
Speaker 3: Without spoilers. So let me pull it up here.
Speaker 2: So reception, a viewership, critical response, Let's see what we
Speaker 2: keep ideas saying about the symbolism behind it because marketing release,
Speaker 2: Oh hold on, what's going on here? Writing, casting, set design, filming. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just thought it was so interesting. Ben Stiller is like.
Speaker 1: One of the main.
Speaker 2: The main people behind this show, which you wouldn't think
Speaker 2: that about him, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's a comedian, he I mean, they
Speaker 1: might have this type of sense of humor in him,
Speaker 1: like we talked about it with Zulander one and Zulander two,
Speaker 1: which is essentially like mk ultra stuff. So he's kind
Speaker 1: of had this. I feel like he's had this in
Speaker 1: his chamber for a while and he's trying to spit
Speaker 1: all this because the only this kind of blew up
Speaker 1: through like audience, like grassroots type of thing, Like I
Speaker 1: don't think that they were expecting it to go over
Speaker 1: this well. It seemed like it was a really niche thing,
Speaker 1: sort of like I know I've referenced From like so
Speaker 1: many times on MGM plus, but that's what happened with
Speaker 1: From as well. Like some people watched the first season,
Speaker 1: there wasn't any promotion for it, no one really cared
Speaker 1: about it, and then it got this like big audience
Speaker 1: reaction like what the fuck is going on in the show,
Speaker 1: and it kind of blew up from there. And that's
Speaker 1: what I feel like that happened with this show, because
Speaker 1: like you were mentioning the first five episodes, like you're
Speaker 1: just like we just keeping Yeah, we just keep doing
Speaker 1: the same thing over and over and over again, Like
Speaker 1: what is going on? With this thing.
Speaker 2: So here we have some free Masonic symbolism, the beehive.
Speaker 2: The beehive is right, and free Masonic symbology is the
Speaker 2: whole thing. They say that it represents camaraderie, structure, working with.
Speaker 3: Your people, like you know, a team sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Right, the beehive and this particular guy here at Russell
Speaker 2: Net he's talking about I think the writers and visual
Speaker 2: artists behind Severn's had quite a bit of fun playing
Speaker 2: with Masonic imagery. I don't mean that in a satanic
Speaker 2: panic sense. I mean that they're doing it intentionally as
Speaker 2: a hint to the audience about what they're trying to
Speaker 2: say with the show. For the purpose of this article,
Speaker 2: I'm lumping Freemasonry, the Illuminati, and Luciferianism into one big pile. Normally,
Speaker 2: you can go way off track by looking too deeply
Speaker 2: into minute details of TV shows. Severance is not like that.
Speaker 2: Severance seems to invite the viewer to freeze frame everything,
Speaker 2: to examine it closely. That was one thing I didn't
Speaker 2: enjoy about the show, because a lot of the things
Speaker 2: that I didn't catch.
Speaker 3: Was the Helly's.
Speaker 2: I guess Employee I D was the same as Cold Harbor.
Speaker 2: So they're trying to say that she is kind of Gemma.
Speaker 2: She kind of says that too. She's like, I'm her.
Speaker 2: What the hell did she mean by I'm her? I
Speaker 2: took that as that she was Gemma or maybe Helly's
Speaker 2: any is one of the consciousnesses of the files that
Speaker 2: they created, and they put it into Helly and that's
Speaker 2: why he falls in love with her.
Speaker 1: That's right, That's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that didn't make any sense, because they want you
Speaker 1: to relate that part where she says I'm her as
Speaker 1: I'm the any version of her AUDI version. But I
Speaker 1: don't think that that's exactly what's going on. I think
Speaker 1: that because the whole thing doesn't really make too much
Speaker 1: sense as to because it seems like Mark is the
Speaker 1: only They basically explain that Mark is the only one
Speaker 1: that can do this to her. He's the only one
Speaker 1: that can get rid of all of her, like the
Speaker 1: things to create a super consciousness for her to like
Speaker 1: go into. Right. Yeah, but Pete pe D in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the series was the head of the Severed Floor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: before Mark wasn't always the head of the Severed Floor.
Speaker 1: So what was he working on when he was the
Speaker 1: head of the Severn floor down there? Was he? Because
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense. How could Mark have been
Speaker 1: the only one that can do this for however many
Speaker 1: years that they've been there when he hasn't been the
Speaker 1: head person that's employed down there when it was PD
Speaker 1: up into the point that we started in, and he
Speaker 1: had already been there for like how many years, like
Speaker 1: two years up into that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and somebody did the math, by the way, and
Speaker 2: this show would take place in twenty thirty five, And yeah,
Speaker 2: that part didn't make sense to me because the magnum
Speaker 2: opus was Cold Harbor, which they hinted at Cold Harbor
Speaker 2: in the episode where they're looking back at Gema and
Speaker 2: Mark's relationship and the baby crib on the box. If
Speaker 2: you read the box, it had the letters that would
Speaker 2: spell out Cold Harbor. So again, if you're not watching
Speaker 2: the show, how this guy's saying freezing it frame by frame,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna understand it. And that was That's one
Speaker 2: of the mistakes I made when I was watching the show,
Speaker 2: because I was watching it while I was working, So
Speaker 2: I'm paying attention, but I'm not paying like attention, You
Speaker 2: get what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 1: And bro, who the fuck is the young Asian girl?
Speaker 2: I thought that was a young Gemma, maybe a cloned
Speaker 2: version of Gemma, because they kind of sort of kept
Speaker 2: her with the same not the same job. But it
Speaker 2: was weird that there was a child there. That's why
Speaker 2: Dylan was like, hey, are you sure?
Speaker 3: Like are you here?
Speaker 2: Do you want to be here? You're not being kept
Speaker 2: here by you know, against your will? She was an intern,
Speaker 2: but I think right in turn internal maybe it was
Speaker 2: another consciousness of Gemma because she comes into play after
Speaker 2: they're almost already done. So maybe they bred no pun
Speaker 2: intended one of those consciousnesses and they put it into
Speaker 2: a little girl because we still don't know who the
Speaker 2: hell she is.
Speaker 1: And then they got rid of her right whenever Cold
Speaker 1: Harbor was getting ready to be complete.
Speaker 2: Yes, because they were all gonna die once Cold Harbor.
Speaker 2: So again the magnum Opus was finish this thing, and
Speaker 2: what they wanted to do was what they were trying
Speaker 2: to achieve. They were trying to see which how far
Speaker 2: this shield could go, right, this shield that separates all
Speaker 2: the innies and all these different because when Jemma was
Speaker 2: being tested on in all these different rooms.
Speaker 3: They would always ask her like, hey, who are you
Speaker 3: and she.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't remember what was happening in the previous rooms, And
Speaker 2: mind you, every single room was a different file that
Speaker 2: they were working on. So what they wanted to achieve
Speaker 2: at the very end with Cold Harbor was if they
Speaker 2: could make somebody who is diassembling their dead child's crib,
Speaker 2: if they could make that person forget that trauma and
Speaker 2: it wasn't able to bleed through, they were successful. And
Speaker 2: that's why James Egan went into that weird room that
Speaker 2: he went into, and they were watching it all in
Speaker 2: because then they're magnum opus or their last experiment, whatever
Speaker 2: this is, because mind you, it seems like there's a
Speaker 2: bigger plot and the board almost seems like they're interdimensional.
Speaker 3: They are.
Speaker 2: Like the Watchers or how this guy is talking about
Speaker 2: the Illuminati, because they're always present. You can only tap
Speaker 2: into them through that one girl where she's like, is
Speaker 2: the board here?
Speaker 3: Yes, they are.
Speaker 2: It's like you want to talk to them and then
Speaker 2: you have to kind of sort of do it through
Speaker 2: like a medium.
Speaker 3: They're like a priest, a priestess.
Speaker 2: She's talking them through this person so they're doing all
Speaker 2: this for the quote unquote board. We still don't know
Speaker 2: if the board is even actual people, or if the
Speaker 2: board might be some sort of AI bro Like what
Speaker 2: if the board is a sort of AI algorithm with
Speaker 2: the whole Deeter Egan, which is AI generated.
Speaker 3: We don't know where that plays a role.
Speaker 2: And maybe there's a bigger scheme behind everything, and that's
Speaker 2: that might be where they're taking the whole show. Because
Speaker 2: we got a lot of answers, but we still don't.
Speaker 2: We still have a lot of questions, right, like the
Speaker 2: hell was the little girl?
Speaker 3: What the hell is the point of it all? Like
Speaker 3: what's the point of the whole thing?
Speaker 2: Because once Cold Harbor was done, they were all gonna die.
Speaker 2: What does that even mean?
Speaker 3: Whether it's just you know.
Speaker 1: This is what I thought was going to happen. As
Speaker 1: I was watching it, I was like, Okay, Mark is
Speaker 1: going to decide to go down there, He's going to
Speaker 1: rescue her. But whenever they completed Cold Harbor, because they
Speaker 1: talked about it several times that whenever Cold Harbor was
Speaker 1: going to be complete, she was going to die, like
Speaker 1: Jimma was going to cease to exist. But that was
Speaker 1: a metaphor that wasn't real. It was that she wasn't
Speaker 1: going to physically die.
Speaker 3: She was going to be reborn.
Speaker 1: As a supper consciousness, okay, and that was going to
Speaker 1: be the final consciousness. So what I thought was going
Speaker 1: to happen was Mark was going to get down there
Speaker 1: rescued Jemma. But Jemma was permanently going to be this robot.
Speaker 1: She was going to be perma burnt. She wasn't going
Speaker 1: to be able to have any of the emotions, she
Speaker 1: wasn't going to She's going to essentially be a brand
Speaker 1: new human adult and not know anything. And I thought
Speaker 1: she was going to be like that forever. So whenever
Speaker 1: he took her back up the elevator, I thought that
Speaker 1: she was going to stay the way that she was
Speaker 1: whenever she was in there disassembling the baby crip. So
Speaker 1: she was going to be like But but that defeats
Speaker 1: the purpose of this big, huge, cold harbor thing, because
Speaker 1: I thought that that was going to erase all of
Speaker 1: the other segments of the consciousness that had been created, okay,
Speaker 1: And I thought that she was just going to be
Speaker 1: that individual from the very beginning, I mean, like from
Speaker 1: there on out. So whenever she walks into disassemble the crib,
Speaker 1: I was like, Mark's going to walk in there, He's
Speaker 1: going to recognize her. She has absolutely no idea who
Speaker 1: he is. He convinces her to come with him, should
Speaker 1: they go up the elevator, and then whenever they go
Speaker 1: back into their any I thought she was going to
Speaker 1: stay the exact same and that he was going to
Speaker 1: have a really big problem. I thought she was just
Speaker 1: going to be Perma burn.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 1: I thought she was going to be Perma fried. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, that would have been really interesting
Speaker 1: to do. Because they essentially want to from what I
Speaker 1: gathered and watching it through one time, is that they
Speaker 1: want to create this like robot type of person. Right.
Speaker 1: They want to clear out all of these They want
Speaker 1: to clear out fear, they want to clear out envy.
Speaker 1: They when I get rid of all the normal emotions
Speaker 1: of a human being, exactly all the woes, and they
Speaker 1: want to create a person that has no emotions so
Speaker 1: they can essentially do this task all the time twenty
Speaker 1: four to seven, and then they're not considered a human
Speaker 1: being anymore, so they can work here forever and never
Speaker 1: have to leave. Okay, and that's what I was, That's
Speaker 1: what I kind of gathered was the goal. And I
Speaker 1: thought whenever Cold Harbor was going to be complete, that
Speaker 1: that was going to erase all the other separations of
Speaker 1: consciousness whenever she goes into the the room and she
Speaker 1: was going to be permanently like that individual. And that
Speaker 1: made sense to me. I was like, Okay, well that
Speaker 1: makes more sense than because it doesn't really make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense as to why that this version of
Speaker 1: her was so important, Like why would that have to
Speaker 1: be the end? Why couldn't they separate and do another
Speaker 1: consciousness after this consciousness?
Speaker 2: Well, I think so there's a few things going on.
Speaker 2: And you have to also remember, right at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, they can sever these people whenever they want.
Speaker 2: They already prove that that they can do this whenever
Speaker 2: wherever they are. They don't have to be right, this
Speaker 2: overtime contingency right that they're able to tap into where
Speaker 2: they're able to shift these people's consciousness wherever they are,
Speaker 2: no matter the time, no matter the place, which kind
Speaker 2: of Hey, they don't have to be at Lumen for
Speaker 2: them to be a severed person. They could be out
Speaker 2: in the real world, which you know, that's the whole
Speaker 2: thing that happened when he was out in the book
Speaker 2: reading party. But also another part of me is telling
Speaker 2: me that the innies might have a special ability, and
Speaker 2: that's why it needs to be them in order to
Speaker 2: birth these other innies into existence, because why not just Hey,
Speaker 2: if you already have the technology and you already know
Speaker 2: how to do this, and you can already sever people,
Speaker 2: why not just do it on your own?
Speaker 3: Why do you need people to do it for you?
Speaker 2: And that's the part that's weird, because they have to
Speaker 2: be these worker bees for the man, for the corporation,
Speaker 2: for Lumen that has to conduct this task. Now they say, oh,
Speaker 2: it's because he can feel the numbers and the numbers
Speaker 2: are what the numbers are different aspects of in this
Speaker 2: in this particular, since Jemma's mind, right, that that that
Speaker 2: was the way that her mind works, and that they
Speaker 2: were able to deconstruct and reconstruct other consciousnesses of Gemma. Right,
Speaker 2: But is that true for everybody else? Because how you
Speaker 2: were saying, Pete, what the hell was he doing? Was
Speaker 2: he also building ulterior innis or other other any's for Gemma?
Speaker 2: Like who was he working on?
Speaker 1: Yeah? What was he doing?
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: That's that's like one of the seems like a continuity
Speaker 1: are but maybe they'll I think the whole thing with
Speaker 1: Pete is like just done. They scrapped it, the whole
Speaker 1: thing with Pete on they're going to go back to that.
Speaker 1: But that was my question because it kind of seemed
Speaker 1: like it all centered around Mark and his relationship with
Speaker 1: his wife, and he's the only one that can do
Speaker 1: the task. So it's like, what was Pete doing there?
Speaker 1: Was he working on his wife like or his relative
Speaker 1: of his But then that means, well, how are they
Speaker 1: working on two people at the same time. It doesn't
Speaker 1: but I was really close in my theory. But that
Speaker 1: I said last time before I had watched season two
Speaker 1: was that I thought that they were keeping the severed
Speaker 1: people severed, and I was kind of close. It was
Speaker 1: just for one individual, but it wasn't for everyone. But hey,
Speaker 1: I was just semi semi had it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm reading into Pete to see what his
Speaker 2: whole backstory was, and I'm not seeing why he was
Speaker 2: there like his we because we saw his wife and
Speaker 2: his daughter, So he wasn't there because of like he
Speaker 2: was missing somebody, Like how Mark was where he was
Speaker 2: missing his wife because she had passed, and then well
Speaker 2: we thought she had passed. So to tie this into
Speaker 2: like the bigger picture of the grand conspiracy of people
Speaker 2: like oh, did did old Jeffrey really die? Or where
Speaker 2: we presented this concept that he died and maybe he's
Speaker 2: on some remote island somewhere, you know, his any self,
Speaker 2: or maybe they transferred the consciousness to you know you guys,
Speaker 2: b drive whatever and they answered it, you know, in
Speaker 2: some other body like another vessel. Because that's what this
Speaker 2: is kind of sort of getting into. If you're able
Speaker 2: to uh compartmentalize someone's mind, what are you then able.
Speaker 3: To do with that?
Speaker 2: If you're able to break it down and store it
Speaker 2: into a computer essentially or a hard drive or something.
Speaker 1: What do you?
Speaker 3: What do you?
Speaker 2: What can what else can you do with that? You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying like, there's a bigger there's a
Speaker 2: bigger conspiracy at the end of all this, And I
Speaker 2: want to look into this particular article here where seven
Speaker 2: season two finales last shot is a warning about season three,
Speaker 2: ben Stiller said, So, they said that this shot here
Speaker 2: where it ends, is a warning about season three. Now,
Speaker 2: ben Steller explains the significance of the freeze frame and
Speaker 2: the color red. At the end of the seven season
Speaker 2: two finale, the episode concludes with a freeze frame of
Speaker 2: Mark and Helly running down a Lumen hallway highlighted in red.
Speaker 2: This occurs after Marks and he chooses to go with
Speaker 2: Helly instead of his Audi's wife, Gemma. Apple TV Plus
Speaker 2: has already renewed seven season three, ensuring that the fall
Speaker 2: of this decision will be explored and that the stories
Speaker 2: of Mark, Helly and Gemma will continue. So maybe in
Speaker 2: the next season, people were contemplating that they were gonna
Speaker 2: that Gema was gonna be picked up by Mark's sister
Speaker 2: and her husband, and that they were then able that
Speaker 2: they were going to then try and save Mark from
Speaker 2: inside of Lumen. But then maybe perhaps Helly is going
Speaker 2: to have a permanent any because that's the one with
Speaker 2: the kier spirit, right, That's the one that has that
Speaker 2: fire that her dad was talking about. In an interview
Speaker 2: with Indy Wire, Stiller explained that the freeze frame is
Speaker 2: meant to be reminiscent of nineteen seventies movies, which sometimes
Speaker 2: use freeze frames to show that the movie is over,
Speaker 2: but that the story will continue. As for the color red,
Speaker 2: Stiller discussed how the color has been used minimally in
Speaker 2: this series so far, and that it was introduced to
Speaker 2: visually mark a distinct turning point towards seven season threes,
Speaker 2: tone and story. And again, I didn't really realize the
Speaker 2: red all that much, to be honest, throughout the whole thing,
Speaker 2: he revealed. He also revealed how the scene was shot
Speaker 2: to make it feel like it was a scene out
Speaker 2: of an older movie, and he says, for me, that
Speaker 2: image was just in my head from the beginning when
Speaker 2: we said, Okay, we're going to go for this. We're
Speaker 2: gonna go this far, and this is where we're going
Speaker 2: to take it. You don't see freeze frames at the
Speaker 2: end of movies that often these days, but it's used
Speaker 2: to be. It used to be done a lot more.
Speaker 2: It's just kind of this moment in time where you're like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, this is the end of the movie, but
Speaker 2: it's going to keep going. We just don't know where
Speaker 2: it's going to go. You marinate in this moment and
Speaker 2: reminded me of movies that I watched growing up. This
Speaker 2: slow zoom in on the freeze frame reminded me of
Speaker 2: seventies movies a little bit.
Speaker 1: We actually like all the Rocky movies.
Speaker 3: Did that really? I never I've never seen Rocky movies.
Speaker 2: We shoot this show digitally, but we transferred that last
Speaker 2: shot to film and retransferred it because we wanted to
Speaker 2: have the grain to zoom in on.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: So it felt like a movie that would have been
Speaker 2: shot on film, where they would have had an optical
Speaker 2: printer that would have zoomed in on it. And it
Speaker 2: goes to red, which we haven't really gone to before.
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of signaling, Hey, we're going into
Speaker 2: a different tone here. Now we are going into a
Speaker 2: different reality for these people. Boom bro right there, They're
Speaker 2: a different reality for these people. So they're gonna be again,
Speaker 2: what happens if the Lumen building gets destroyed?
Speaker 3: Do the anies go with it?
Speaker 2: Do those consciousness go with it? Because how far could
Speaker 2: they get away?
Speaker 3: And we know that.
Speaker 2: And the whole thing that I'm not liking about this
Speaker 2: ending of this show was that they could easily be
Speaker 2: turned off whenever they want to. Again, we have the
Speaker 2: overtime contingency. They have full control over these people at
Speaker 2: any given point, so they could easily shut this whole
Speaker 2: thing down if they truly want it too. Now, who's
Speaker 2: left to do that? I mean, James Egan or Milchick
Speaker 2: is still out there too, you know. Milchick is is
Speaker 2: kind of the guy running things now with his uh
Speaker 2: what is his verbose vocabulary or whatever it was.
Speaker 1: Man, stop using big words, mister Milchik.
Speaker 3: Yeah, mister mister milkshake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably my favorite character, especially after the band
Speaker 2: part of it all, which that was super weird too,
Speaker 2: the scene where they kind of run in. They're celebrating
Speaker 2: and then Milchik does his thing where he's like dancing
Speaker 2: and so he's breaking it down. Bro, I'm like, but
Speaker 2: they were also, I don't know if you remember when
Speaker 2: Corbel sang that song for them in front of the
Speaker 2: of the office. She did like an acapella like a song.
Speaker 2: So they played the band played that song. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you caught onto that now again, I don't know,
Speaker 2: let me see here the which song.
Speaker 3: It was, to see if it's relevant. Lads severance. Again,
Speaker 3: there's so many strings to pull out, so.
Speaker 2: All the songs in several in season two from Who
Speaker 2: to Ella Fitzgerald, Let's see here episode that was what
Speaker 2: episode ten right here? So they have Cirrus Serious by
Speaker 2: Alan Park, the Alan Parsons Project, I'll Be Seeing You
Speaker 2: by Billie Holiday, and the Windmills of.
Speaker 3: Your Mind by mel to MEI or tourm What is
Speaker 3: this hum all on?
Speaker 2: They were also drawing from a What's that one?
Speaker 3: Twilight Zone?
Speaker 2: They were also drawing from a from a twilight Zone
Speaker 2: episode two I saw and one of these songs was
Speaker 2: about to was supposedly about like mind control the Windmills
Speaker 2: of your Mind?
Speaker 3: Is this one?
Speaker 2: I don't think? So let's see here. What's the song?
Speaker 2: I forgot the name of the song that they played?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was just a wild That was just a
Speaker 1: wild scene. And the whole time I was like, man, Mark,
Speaker 1: you need to be getting out of here, like quick, dude,
Speaker 1: Like you can't be just you just completed the file, bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta be trying to figure out how to get
Speaker 1: out of here, quick dude.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So they played a version of the Kier Anthem, the
Speaker 2: same song that Corbel scenes in MDR season one when
Speaker 2: the group is back from O and D. The song
Speaker 2: and a song called Ballad of amber Rose and gonell.
Speaker 2: I watched the episode once. Yeah, so I think this
Speaker 2: Ballad of amber Rose and Gonell is a Twilight Zone
Speaker 2: show Amber Amberrose, Egan and Gnell Egan. What somebody said
Speaker 2: low key the Ballad of Ambrose and Ganell slaps slaps, Yeah,
Speaker 2: bro again, There's there's so much here. I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 2: have to watch it again. Bro, There's there's just no way, like,
Speaker 2: there's no way we could like, there's so many things
Speaker 2: I miss looking back at these, like theory uh uh
Speaker 2: video season three severance theories. So here, oh, look at that,
Speaker 2: he says. Ben Stiller admits he enjoys wild Severn fan theories.
Speaker 2: That was twenty four hours ago. There you go, so theories.
Speaker 2: After watching season two finale, wanted to share some theories
Speaker 2: about where the season next season could go. Have a
Speaker 2: different ideas theories if it picks up where season two
Speaker 2: left off and goes in a new direction. I want
Speaker 2: to expect specs. Also love season two finale. It was
Speaker 2: funny and sad in tragic all at the same time.
Speaker 2: The best parts of the band Helly hitting Milchick with
Speaker 2: a with I think a trombone, the season with the
Speaker 2: scene where the band was classic Milchick and what you
Speaker 2: would expect from what was to be Leuman's finest day.
Speaker 2: It also added to the suspense of rescuing Gemma. It's
Speaker 2: a lot, I know, but I would love to hear
Speaker 2: what you guys think and where you think the show
Speaker 2: could go from here. All of this is why I
Speaker 2: think this show should go on for as long as
Speaker 2: it can. Hell a great story, whether three, four and
Speaker 2: five seasons all right, So, I know some people think
Speaker 2: just three is enough, but it should go on as
Speaker 2: long as it keeps us engaged.
Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: We shouldn't be limited to just three seasons. That there's
Speaker 2: more left to tell us about, and there is a
Speaker 2: lot we still don't know about Lumen Irving and jam
Speaker 2: or Kiir Egan, James and Luhman try to make so
Speaker 2: this is one of the theories Jame and Luhman try
Speaker 2: to make Helly are more like Kier, or perhaps try
Speaker 2: to make Helena more like Helly r. I say it's
Speaker 2: because when James talks to Helly, he says she has
Speaker 2: the fire of Kier and that he saw this in
Speaker 2: Helena when she.
Speaker 3: Was a kid.
Speaker 2: James seems impressed with how Helly tricked him into thinking
Speaker 2: she was Helena.
Speaker 3: So that's what I was.
Speaker 2: Saying about him preferring his daughters. He loves his daughters
Speaker 2: any and not his actual daughter. And now I don't
Speaker 2: know that's gonna get like pdf bilish, like I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's like part of this whole thing. How
Speaker 2: there's some crazy theories. Maybe perhaps not, because that's kind
Speaker 2: of wild and that's kind of out there.
Speaker 1: But what's weird is that heley R as the Any
Speaker 1: is in love with Mark. And then it also sees
Speaker 1: sounds like and feels like that Helena.
Speaker 2: Is she really though, bro Like, is Helena truly in
Speaker 2: love with Mark? Because she did have relations with him
Speaker 2: on her own behalf.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. Both of them seem like
Speaker 1: they're both in love with Mark. When whenever she wasn't severed, whenever,
Speaker 1: like in the first like two episodes or three episodes,
Speaker 1: when she wasn't severed, whenever she was working at lumin
Speaker 1: they tried to pull a fast one on everyone, and
Speaker 1: Irving exposed her. She slept with Mark as her audi
Speaker 1: as Helena, meaning that we like, why would she do
Speaker 1: that if she didn't have any feelings for him? So
Speaker 1: it seems like both of them. And then whenever she
Speaker 1: met him outside, like as there Audi's at that restaurant,
Speaker 1: whenever Mark went to Saddan at the restaurant, and then
Speaker 1: she saidden at the other table across from him.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, there's a there's a bunch of people in
Speaker 2: this family, the Egan family. There's a bunch of people
Speaker 2: in it. I'm looking up Severn's family tree. You have
Speaker 2: Kier Egan, Deeter Egan, you have Emoji Egan, Ambarrose Egan,
Speaker 2: Myrtle Egan, uh Baird Egan, Gerard Egan, Philip, Pip Egan,
Speaker 2: Leonora Egan. There's a ton of them, Bro James Egan,
Speaker 2: Helen Egan. There's there's a ton like this is this
Speaker 2: is wild. I'm trying to see if I can find
Speaker 2: a picture.
Speaker 1: Well, we don't even know how many other lumen type
Speaker 1: buildings that there are in the world. I mean, it
Speaker 1: made it sound like that they were wanting that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of them, that we're just focusing on one
Speaker 1: building out of maybe hundreds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rather, this is getting into Cattle Lake territory with
Speaker 2: this family tree.
Speaker 3: All right, So.
Speaker 1: Here's sister, is their brother, and their brother's cousin, and
Speaker 1: then their stepsister has a wife with a kid that
Speaker 1: is actually their father.
Speaker 2: So check this out. We have all these egans. Is
Speaker 2: this the board? Is this the consciousness of these egans
Speaker 2: that they're tapping into when they talk to the board?
Speaker 2: Right with Natalie because her last name is redacted, right,
Speaker 2: So what yea is she He's the one that kind
Speaker 2: of sort of transmits the board to them, right, She's
Speaker 2: like this priestess that's able to tap into the board
Speaker 2: and she's like they've logged off now or whatever it is, like,
Speaker 2: so it's super weird.
Speaker 1: They have ended the call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have ended the call, right, So another thing,
Speaker 2: perhaps lumin activates the OTC for Helly on the outside
Speaker 2: world so James can groom her for CEO or make
Speaker 2: her more cure like. If not one above, we at
Speaker 2: least need to learn more about James Egan's conversation with
Speaker 2: Helly and what it meant and why it's important in
Speaker 2: the next season. Yeah, we're probably gonna get more background
Speaker 2: on this. We see the indies in the first episode
Speaker 2: or two refusing to leave the seventh floor as the
Speaker 2: macro data's uprising spreads to other departments. Helena will get
Speaker 2: pregnant as a resort as a result of the ort bow,
Speaker 2: which yet I wasn't she sick in one of the episodes?
Speaker 2: Didn't she feel weird in one of the episodes? Or
Speaker 2: was that after she had learned that they had relations?
Speaker 1: That was after she found out that her audi had
Speaker 1: had sexual relations with Mark, and then she didn't get
Speaker 1: their experiences, so then they had they had.
Speaker 2: To pitch the tent. Yeah, okay, all right? Because I
Speaker 2: thought she was like throwing up on one season.
Speaker 3: Maybe not.
Speaker 2: I thought that was like morning sickness or something, right,
Speaker 2: again hinting at that she might be pregnant, Which what
Speaker 2: happens then?
Speaker 3: Like? Whose kid? Is that? Really?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: If it was created by and this is where you
Speaker 2: get into different almost like a liminal baby because it
Speaker 2: was created within any and an audi, So what does
Speaker 2: that make the kid? You get what I'm saying, because
Speaker 2: obviously there are still people, but their consciousness wasn't all there.
Speaker 2: So is that like a severed baby? You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying? Like, well, the baby have two consciousnesses? Or
Speaker 2: like what is the plural for consciousness? Lural form of consciousness?
Speaker 3: Am I saying it? Correctly. Yeah, consciousness is Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 2: Gemma will try to rescue Mark from the severed floor.
Speaker 2: That's what I talked about earlier. We will find out
Speaker 2: that while Cold Harbor failed, when Gemma's any trusted Mark,
Speaker 2: it was only a setback and gives them an opportunity
Speaker 2: to progress towards whatever their ultimate goal is. We will
Speaker 2: see what Revolving is helen to become CEO, maybe in
Speaker 2: a twist Helly after seeing James talk with her not
Speaker 2: as just as a normal any we finally see what
Speaker 2: the board is. My guess it is that it's recent
Speaker 2: past CEOs consciousness.
Speaker 3: There you go, dude, I think so too.
Speaker 2: We see Irving come back to join Devin, Mark and
Speaker 2: Gemma as they try to expose Lumin and get Mark back.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That kind of seems weird because I
Speaker 1: think that they just gave Irving a good accent. I
Speaker 1: think they just toss this character out.
Speaker 3: Have I been calling him?
Speaker 1: Irving is the guy that's in love with Chris Kin? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Dylan is Okay, I was getting Devin and
Speaker 2: Dylan mixed up.
Speaker 1: Okay, So Dylan, Dylan is the one that his wife
Speaker 1: keeps coming back to the Lumen and his wife is
Speaker 1: catching feelings for his any and not liking his Audi.
Speaker 1: That was so weird. Dude was so weird. And then
Speaker 1: he got so salty with her whenever she told him
Speaker 1: that he had she had made out with his any.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we learned more about Irving, perhaps that he was
Speaker 2: on the testing for himself. At one point, we learned
Speaker 2: who Irving was talking to on the phone trying to
Speaker 2: bring down Lumen, perhaps someone on the inside.
Speaker 3: I don't remember that part.
Speaker 2: We learn more about Lumen's ultimate goal or endgame, perhaps
Speaker 2: to live forever, and the chips are a way to
Speaker 2: achieve that.
Speaker 3: I think so too.
Speaker 2: This is all about transhumanism and achieving this quantum immortality,
Speaker 2: if you will. Cobell might turn on Mark and Devin.
Speaker 2: She only joined them because she's angry at Luman for
Speaker 2: firing her and not getting credit for designing.
Speaker 3: Did she kiss her brother, Dude, By the way.
Speaker 1: She did make out with that guy, But I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if that was was that her brother.
Speaker 3: Was that her brother, was that her ex husband?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of thought it was her
Speaker 1: brother in the in the beginning of it, and then
Speaker 1: whenever they made out. I don't know, it might have been.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 1: We're getting some Game of Thrones ask stuff going on here.
Speaker 3: Let's see. I don't know if it was. I know
Speaker 3: he was. I know he was a Cobell for sure,
Speaker 3: because she says his name.
Speaker 1: But if they were like good friends, or if they
Speaker 1: both were at the weird orphanage place together, or if
Speaker 1: they were a family.
Speaker 3: Or who did Cobel kiss?
Speaker 2: So Miss Cobell shares a kiss with Harmony's father, Hampton
Speaker 2: after they both have ether together. Harmony's father. Who the
Speaker 2: hell's Harmony was that that girl, the one at the
Speaker 2: bottom floor.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know who Harmony is.
Speaker 2: It might be the lady that she was talking about
Speaker 2: that killed her mom. So Harmony Cobell, I'm so confused
Speaker 2: right now, Miss Cobell shares a kiss with Harmony's brother Hampton.
Speaker 2: Who the hell is Hampton Cobell right because she says
Speaker 2: his name. Hampton is a childhood friend of Harmony Cobell. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I was a friend. It wasn't her brother.
Speaker 1: They kind of made it seem like that it was
Speaker 1: her brother though a little.
Speaker 3: Bit all right.
Speaker 2: So as a child Hampton worked at the Ether factory
Speaker 2: owned and operated by Lumin Industries, alongside his friend Harmony Cobel.
Speaker 2: There they both became addicted to ether. When they grew up,
Speaker 2: Harmony left and began working for Lumen Severed Floor. When
Speaker 2: she returned to Salt's Neck, Hampton initially refused to help her,
Speaker 2: but ultimately decided to drive her to her aunt's.
Speaker 3: House at her request.
Speaker 2: He waited outside for her for several hours before going
Speaker 2: inside to get her. He brought ether and they got
Speaker 2: high together, and then he helped her out of the
Speaker 2: storm shelter on the property where she found what she
Speaker 2: was looking for. She was confronting her aunt when Hampton
Speaker 2: called her to tell her someone was coming.
Speaker 3: He let her take the truck to help her escape.
Speaker 3: So they were close friends. I thought it was her brother,
Speaker 3: but I was like, what is happening here? So Coba
Speaker 3: Mike turn on them.
Speaker 2: We see a flashback and learn how PD and or
Speaker 2: Irving both new about the testing floor. Like a couple
Speaker 2: others have said, we see Mark continuing to have to
Speaker 2: make choices that pin his Audi against his any. Helena
Speaker 2: continues to try to get with Mark, whether OUTI or any.
Speaker 2: Helena starts to betray her father James Eagan as he
Speaker 2: becomes more like Helly.
Speaker 3: She already.
Speaker 2: Seems to be having somewhat of an arc as she
Speaker 2: when she's with Mark at the Ortbow and apologizes for
Speaker 2: distracting him finding his wife. She doesn't make a distinction
Speaker 2: between Indian audi. As the stakes rise, we learn about
Speaker 2: grund debates about whether to outlaw or to keep severance
Speaker 2: w This is in Kier, the state or Congress. Along
Speaker 2: with nineteen maybe, we see Helena a congressional hearing testifying
Speaker 2: against Mark and Gemma about what they've experienced. We see
Speaker 2: backstory on James Eagan or even Ker himself, and see
Speaker 2: Helena as a kid being groomed to be CEO of Lumen,
Speaker 2: especially after the animatronic Kere saying his grand agenda is
Speaker 2: closer to being so he does say this, that the
Speaker 2: agenda is closer to being fulfilled.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Where the hell is all this going?
Speaker 1: Well, it seems like from my theory, and I mentioned
Speaker 1: this on the last episode of The Schizospiracy Hour, that
Speaker 1: it seems like they just want to breed people to
Speaker 1: work here like permanently so they don't have to deal
Speaker 1: with these people anymore. Like they don't have to deal
Speaker 1: with severing these people. They don't have to deal with
Speaker 1: innies and autis. They just have full time in ease
Speaker 1: that are essentially robots that have no emotions and they
Speaker 1: work there forever. I mean, that seems like the end
Speaker 1: goal and is like what they want. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like the version of the Ananaki story right where the
Speaker 1: Anonachi come down. They you know, create this version of
Speaker 1: like work her bees, which is in turn us to
Speaker 1: mine all this gold and mine all this stuff for them,
Speaker 1: for their whatever. It's That's what it seems like and
Speaker 1: like what they're trying to accomplish. And I think that
Speaker 1: that is the goal. Now whether they actually it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like they're going to complete that because of this
Speaker 1: hiccup that they're having with Mark right now. So but
Speaker 1: that seems like what they're what the whole end goal is,
Speaker 1: and it might have been because of the goat that
Speaker 1: didn't get sacrificed. Is the reason, is the reason why
Speaker 1: the rest of her consciousness is didn't get separated from her.
Speaker 1: So that's why it couldn't be complete. That's why she
Speaker 1: couldn't permanently be you know, perma burnt in that new
Speaker 1: section of consciousness, so she wouldn't be like that forever
Speaker 1: because the goat didn't get sacrificed, So all the consciousness
Speaker 1: is that had been split that they had been working
Speaker 1: on for years stayed in there because the way to
Speaker 1: get rid of all those was to kill the goat.
Speaker 1: So they would essentially have all of those split consciousnesses
Speaker 1: that were inside of her inside of the goat. So
Speaker 1: whenever they killed the goat, that would get rid of
Speaker 1: all those and then she would permanently be like that
Speaker 1: emotionless entity that was taking apart the crip.
Speaker 2: And check this out, bro, Queen bees use mind control
Speaker 2: to keep young workers online. A queen bee needs to
Speaker 2: keep her subjects common quiet, and she does this so
Speaker 2: by seek secreting a scent that prevents worker bees from learning.
Speaker 2: According to you, this is two thousand and seven, Bro.
Speaker 2: What that's wild?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 2: The study published This is from two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: The study published this week in the journal Science found
Speaker 2: that a component in the queen's pheromone inhibits inhibits the
Speaker 2: sterile worker bee's ability to learn from negative experiences. That's wild,
Speaker 2: and that kind of sort of ties into this hole, right,
Speaker 2: the beehive, the Masonic symbolism, this whole thing where the
Speaker 2: outside real person whatever that is, doesn't really know what's
Speaker 2: going on on the inside, so they're not learning from
Speaker 2: the negative experiences of like the uprising and everything else.
Speaker 2: And it's like, hey, you hurt your hand. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: told me I fell off a cliff or something, right,
Speaker 2: like I remember when he had hurt his back or
Speaker 2: something or other. So again they're kind of hinting at
Speaker 2: this sort of a b thing. So by preventing aversive learning,
Speaker 2: the queen ensures that her youngest offspring will stay in
Speaker 2: the hive and not use their things even if something
Speaker 2: unpleasant occurs. The active scent element is very similar to
Speaker 2: the brain compound dopamine, which is involved in learning and
Speaker 2: memory and humans as well as I wonder, dude, if
Speaker 2: within the hive these bees are under this mind control
Speaker 2: and then outside of the hive they're not, that'd be
Speaker 2: very interesting because the bees are severed.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: The bees are severed inside the hive, And that's why
Speaker 2: the Freemasons use the hive symbolism, not the bees, right,
Speaker 2: but with the Wakerman and everything. And then outside the hive.
Speaker 2: When they're not next to the queen, they're a different
Speaker 2: They're the audi version of like, Hey, I just got
Speaker 2: to go collect pollen and do all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: Then I come back and I'm in I'm a drone again,
Speaker 2: you know, Like.
Speaker 3: That's bro.
Speaker 2: Evers learning is when the animal makes an association between
Speaker 2: a particular odor and a nasty experience. A senior study author,
Speaker 2: Alison Mercer, a neurobiologist at the University of Otago and
Speaker 2: New Zealand, ought to go The nasty experience in the
Speaker 2: study was a mild electric shock accompanied by a particular smell.
Speaker 2: Honey Bees separated from the queen extend their stings when
Speaker 2: they detected the odor, but young honey bees exposed to
Speaker 2: the queen's fermone did not respond to the smell. Bro
Speaker 2: Outside the hive, they're not severed inside, They're severed while
Speaker 2: they're in contact with that queen's fermone. The young bees
Speaker 2: that groom the queen are exposed to very high levels
Speaker 2: of her pheromone. Older bees, which forge for food outside
Speaker 2: the hive are capable of averse learning, Otherwise they would
Speaker 2: have a little chance for survival.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 2: It is, dude, like you got into the real world.
Speaker 2: You take care of your any by eating, resting, Right,
Speaker 2: That was the whole thing. With the end, He's like, hey,
Speaker 2: how do you guys distinguish between a weekend and the
Speaker 2: next day. We just show up here again, and he's like, no,
Speaker 2: you'll learn the effects of when you get a good
Speaker 2: night's sleep.
Speaker 3: Is you know something along those lines.
Speaker 2: It's like, you'll learn to appreciate the effects of sleep
Speaker 2: because they never slept, and then when they finally do sleep,
Speaker 2: we see that they dream. Remember with Irving and his
Speaker 2: weird dream that he had with the with one of
Speaker 2: the Woes or whatever it was, that he saw the lady,
Speaker 2: the short lady. He had like some weird, trippy ass dream.
Speaker 2: So that the homunculous dude dream writer, What does that mean?
Speaker 1: I say, not the bees.
Speaker 2: Roh.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, man. I never never knew about that.
Speaker 2: And that's from two thousand and seven, so imagine how
Speaker 2: far the study is probably gone.
Speaker 1: Right, I didn't know that about bees. I mean, I
Speaker 1: knew that the queen bee had everything to do with
Speaker 1: like their behavior, but I didn't know that that was
Speaker 1: only inside of the hive. So this does that makes sense?
Speaker 1: So the closer the bees to the queen bee. The
Speaker 1: more that it's controlled, the further that it is a way.
Speaker 3: Fringe research suggests that the insects that are essential to
Speaker 3: agriculture have emotions, dreams, and even PTSD they're talking about
Speaker 3: probably talking about.
Speaker 2: Bees ptsdbs having dreams and everything.
Speaker 3: Bro. So Nick Cage was right, not the bees, not
Speaker 3: that bees anyways, Bro, this is uh, this goes deep. Man.
Speaker 3: I'm excited for season three.
Speaker 2: To what I'm not liking is I hate when I
Speaker 2: start a new show that has like little bits of
Speaker 2: episodes that are like recent, because then I have to
Speaker 2: wait for the next season come out.
Speaker 1: Well, at least we didn't have to wait for a
Speaker 1: season two because some people have been waiting three years
Speaker 1: for this season.
Speaker 2: Well, the writers strike or whatever it was contributed to
Speaker 2: it being delayed, which we're not gonna hopefully not have that.
Speaker 2: But season three severance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben Stiller said that it wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: another three years, so hopefully it'll be.
Speaker 2: So this is three days ago seven season three release
Speaker 2: date speculation. So let's see here what it says.
Speaker 1: It'll be two years like every other standard.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's the lame, dude. I can't wait three years.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to wait three years to talk about
Speaker 2: this again.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to rewatch the whole thing again.
Speaker 2: Hey, they might surprise us and be like, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: next year or whatever. We we already recorded it and
Speaker 2: they like drop it, right. I mean that could also be.
Speaker 2: That'd be dope if they maybe like the same time
Speaker 2: next year, dropped it.
Speaker 1: That's what happened to me with Yellow Jackets. I watched
Speaker 1: the id binge the first two seasons of Yellow Jackets,
Speaker 1: and then the third season just came out like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, a month ago, and I couldn't remember anything
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: We shot the show, so it took us a little
Speaker 2: bit to regroup because there was the sag Aftra and
Speaker 2: Riders Guild of America strikes, so that was delayed because
Speaker 2: of that. And then it says here it took us
Speaker 2: a little bit to regroup in the show. We shot
Speaker 2: for one hundred and eighty six days on season two.
Speaker 2: Editing takes a while, but thank goodness, the audience was
Speaker 2: there when we came back. The challenge was to get
Speaker 2: people who hadn't seen the show to watch the first season,
Speaker 2: so Apple did a really good job getting the word
Speaker 2: out and we did as much press as we could. Also,
Speaker 2: three years later, Apple TV is actually a different it's
Speaker 2: a different situation there now because they have more viewers.
Speaker 2: When we started out, we were one of the first shows.
Speaker 2: So one hundred and eighty six days. That's like essentially
Speaker 2: that's almost five six months a half a year, So
Speaker 2: half a year, let's say if they start now, that's
Speaker 2: the editing.
Speaker 3: Yeah a year, bro, a year to two years, damn
Speaker 3: we get wrecked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be around two years. That's the
Speaker 1: standard for all of the TV shows, which I've never
Speaker 1: understood why it takes that long. They need to shorten
Speaker 1: that time up. I remember back in the day when
Speaker 1: it was every year. Every year was the next season
Speaker 1: of a show. But it's not like that anymore.
Speaker 3: So I guess we'll see you guys in another year now.
Speaker 1: Probably two years. Good, two years, two years and we'll
Speaker 1: be talking about season three or sevens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, I mean again, dude, you want to add
Speaker 2: anything else, I think that just watch the show people.
Speaker 2: It's interesting, but watch it, like, give your attention to it,
Speaker 2: because if not, you're gonna struggle. Because I struggled with
Speaker 2: some other things. I'm like, what the hell is that?
Speaker 2: I had to replay some parts over because I either
Speaker 2: wasn't paying attention when was playing or whatever to really
Speaker 2: capture it. And I missed a ton of stuff. And
Speaker 2: there's a ton of stuff in season one I missed
Speaker 2: because again I know it is going to play a
Speaker 2: role later on. So pay attention.
Speaker 3: It's important.
Speaker 1: Pay attention. You can binge all of the first season
Speaker 1: and the second season together. You don't have to wait,
Speaker 1: but then you got to, unfortunately wait for the third season,
Speaker 1: like we're gonna have to wait. But yeah, just if
Speaker 1: you get a chance, throw it on. Pay attention. Watch
Speaker 1: every episode and see what you guys think. And if
Speaker 1: you've already watched, to leave a comment down below and
Speaker 1: let us know what you thought of the series.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 1: One. Where can people find you?
Speaker 2: Brother www dot t j o JP dot com, YouTube
Speaker 2: dot com, slash at t j o JP, Patreon dot com,
Speaker 2: slash the one on one podcast, all that good stuff.
Speaker 2: But yeah, my website find all my stuff on there.
Speaker 1: Cool, thank you, And if you're listening to this on
Speaker 1: one show, you can find me at Raised by Giants
Speaker 1: on YouTube and an all podcast platforms. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: the next show with One will be next month for
Speaker 1: the MAGA Conspiracy Hour Schizospiracy number three, so be looking
Speaker 1: forward to that one. All right, see you guys next time.
Speaker 2: Bye bye,