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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Raised by Giants special episode follow up

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<v Speaker 1>to the last Schizospiracy the Mega Burrito Hour. But this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't a Maga Burrito ho, this isn't a Maga Burrito episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are on the third Monday of every month. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a special episode where we're going to be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Severance Season two. The final episode of season two

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<v Speaker 1>just dropped last week, and here to talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>with us, the host of the one on one podcast

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<v Speaker 1>to Get Weird one A Alla, how's it going?

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<v Speaker 2>My friend was, how do I sound? I sound like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm supposed to sound, and like not like last time?

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<v Speaker 1>You sound good? Okay, coming through loud and clear with

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<v Speaker 1>the micael cool.

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<v Speaker 2>We're here and we're queer right, Oh okay whatever, We're

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<v Speaker 2>here to talk about Severance.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude. It got pretty crazy, man, I'm ready and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of stuff. There's a lot of Easter eggs too,

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<v Speaker 3>bro that people.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like watching theory videos on it and all

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<v Speaker 2>the craziness that people are coming up with, like the

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<v Speaker 2>conspiracies within the show, and it gets wild, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Like first season, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Be honest, they ain't have me Like the first half

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<v Speaker 2>but it's one of these shows that you watch it

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<v Speaker 2>and it all starts to make sense towards the end.

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<v Speaker 2>You go, oh, that's why that happened, or that's why

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<v Speaker 2>that's happening. You start to connect the dots after the fact,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't really appreciate it because it is a

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<v Speaker 2>slow burn, dude. It's like a really really slow burn.

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<v Speaker 2>You're just grinding through the entire thing. And then season

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<v Speaker 2>two was like boom bro it went crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It went crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It did get really crazy, and one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of the whole thing was the Corbel episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that the Corbell I really like that one. It

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of off, it was kind of different. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the Breaking Bad episode with the fly.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you watch Breaking Bad? The Fly episode where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like super freaking random and doesn't make any sense and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like an episode where they're trying to kill

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<v Speaker 1>a freaking fly the entire episode. But that's what this

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<v Speaker 1>episode felt like. But I thought that it was. It

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<v Speaker 1>brought the character of Corbell and wrapped it all together

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<v Speaker 1>really nicely, and we figure out the Corbell all in.

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<v Speaker 1>Spoiler warnings for anybody that hasn't seen season two or

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't even seen the first season. We covered the

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<v Speaker 1>first season and the schizospiracy episode number two. Now we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be covering the second season here because is

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<v Speaker 1>all caught up. And I just thought that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a really good fleshing out of the character because we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really get any information of exactly what was going

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<v Speaker 1>on with her. And it turns out that she essentially

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<v Speaker 1>created all of the technology of the Severance, like technology

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<v Speaker 1>that they use, and they stole it from her. Well

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<v Speaker 1>they sort of QUASEI stole it. They kind of told

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<v Speaker 1>her to like, shut shut up, and you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to serve Kiera during this whole thing and take

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<v Speaker 1>a back seat to this, but we'll give you a

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<v Speaker 1>management position, you know, and then they kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>screw her over and then she's like, oh, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys just screwed the wrong person on this thing, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they were going to kill her. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>whenever she went to meet with Elly at the Luman

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, yeah, come on up to the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm pretty sure that that's where they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to kill her. But she knew that they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to kill her, so she turned around and got in

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<v Speaker 1>her car and left. And that's whenever she went to

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<v Speaker 1>this orphanage type place, which I'm not it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>an orphanage. Did not look like an orphanage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not sure exactly, but she was she was.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't severed the entire time she was there, right, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Or was she?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she was now right.

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<v Speaker 2>Because like it started, like these things start to make

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<v Speaker 2>sense after the fact where you go because and they did.

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<v Speaker 3>They did a really good job.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, you have to pay attention when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to shows like this because if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>paying attention, it can get a little crazy, right, especially

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the last episode when they're going up

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<v Speaker 2>through floors and they're switching between the innye and the audi,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the the episode where he's having a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with his any with the camera. But then it's a

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<v Speaker 2>special lodge, the birthing lodge, that they have to be

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<v Speaker 2>in in order to do that, which is bro that

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<v Speaker 2>that's Masonic, like that concept of a Pythagorean palace, which

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<v Speaker 2>I've talked about. It's a Now again, this is technology, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but any technology indistinguishable from magic, right, any sophisticated technology

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<v Speaker 2>is indistinguishable from magic, right, That's the whole thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>a Pathagoora and Palace says that if you build a

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<v Speaker 2>structure to certain geometric restrictions, it can elevate the consciousness

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<v Speaker 2>of a person within it, or a group of people.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why masonicologies are built. The way that they're built.

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<v Speaker 2>And the way that you can elevate someone's consciousness, you

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<v Speaker 2>can also suppress someone's consciousness. So think about it and

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<v Speaker 2>the severed way where once they go in, they're tapping

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<v Speaker 2>into a different part of themselves, a different personality. And

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<v Speaker 2>then it all starts to come full circle when they

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<v Speaker 2>reveal what the numbers were, what all the names of

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<v Speaker 2>the files were, and I was just like, this is

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<v Speaker 2>too much. And then it starts to get into the

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<v Speaker 2>ethics of it all, which the whole show was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of about the ethics of this is it? And the

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<v Speaker 2>question that we asked on the last episode, can would

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<v Speaker 2>you sever yourself? Would you go that far to get

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<v Speaker 2>a paycheck or whatever it is? We don't know why exactly, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we do know why in the in the story in

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<v Speaker 2>the show why he did that. He kind of wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to separate himself from the death of his wife. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>he was depressed. He tried to be the professor or

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<v Speaker 2>the teacher that he was, but he just kept seeing

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<v Speaker 2>her everywhere. Like that's what they said, that he kept

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<v Speaker 2>seeing her everywhere and he couldn't get over it. So

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<v Speaker 2>he did it in a way to kind of shut

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<v Speaker 2>off for however many hours, was it like nine to five?

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they work like nine to six, like really late hours,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was disconnected. You go out, you go home.

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<v Speaker 2>He was drinking a lot when he was home. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So again, depressed guy who just wanted to just get by,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess. And so the ethics of it really got

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<v Speaker 2>to me where I'm like, I forgot which which scene

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<v Speaker 2>it was where all the two gay dudes, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that what's that actor's name he's really famous from from Click.

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<v Speaker 3>Christopher Walking, Christopher Walking, Oh my god, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Brain Christopher Walking and his husband right when they're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about which by the way, was weird because he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when we went to church, and the guy's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys went to church, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, yeah, we went to church so that his

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<v Speaker 3>any would be saved.

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<v Speaker 2>Because then it starts to get into the whole concept

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<v Speaker 2>of do anyes have souls? And if they do have souls,

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<v Speaker 2>can they be saved? And bro this is directly out

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<v Speaker 2>of like fifteenth century homunculous talk where it's like do

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<v Speaker 2>homunculus have souls? Can they be saved? Did God die

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<v Speaker 2>for that creation?

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<v Speaker 3>Sin?

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<v Speaker 2>And essentially when you create in any you're creating another

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<v Speaker 2>life form, but it's yours, right, So it's so weird

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<v Speaker 2>where you see you know, you got the perspective of

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<v Speaker 2>the ny where he's arguing his case, like, hey, help

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<v Speaker 2>me save my wife, and then he's like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that once you save your wife, you're going to forget

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<v Speaker 2>all about me, right, And then obviously we have how

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<v Speaker 2>the series ended, which I wasn't expecting it to end

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was going to go through with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, then what where do they think they're going?

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<v Speaker 3>Bro?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know that's a really confusing part. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was really interesting too with Christopher walking

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<v Speaker 1>and Irving whenever they were talking about that, because that

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<v Speaker 1>brings a different, completely different aspect to it. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a spiritual type of consciousness aspect in there. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of mirroring stuff that was going on as well,

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<v Speaker 1>Like with Kobel, whenever she is in the weird area

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<v Speaker 1>at the home or whatever, whenever she goes upstairs and

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<v Speaker 1>she grabs that mask that her mom was supposedly on,

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<v Speaker 1>like a ventilation mask, like well, I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>a respirator or whatever it is that helped people breathe

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<v Speaker 1>whenever their you know, their lungs or they have a

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<v Speaker 1>really bad upper respiratory infection ventilator and she was breathing

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<v Speaker 1>through it. But if you remember at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>season one, whenever she gets fired from Lumen and she

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<v Speaker 1>goes into the she's on the Masonic floor and she

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<v Speaker 1>destroys all the stuff that's in our house, she's gripping

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<v Speaker 1>a hold of that exact same ventilator mask.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, really, i't Yeah, whenever she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Laying on the Masonic check her board floor at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the first season, she's gripping onto the the

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<v Speaker 1>same type of ventilation mask that she has in her house.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's the exact same thing whenever she's in

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<v Speaker 1>season two and at the home, whenever her mom, that

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<v Speaker 1>lady that works there or lives there or whatever supposedly

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<v Speaker 1>killed her mom or whatever, and she's upstairs in her

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<v Speaker 1>bed working on the ventilator.

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<v Speaker 2>So the theory with the whole thing is that the

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<v Speaker 2>main Eagan guy, which is, let me find his name here,

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<v Speaker 2>the main guy, James Egan. They're kind of hinting at that.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he was married to her mom, and then

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<v Speaker 2>that she might be I could be getting I could

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<v Speaker 2>be mixing all this up. But anyways, point being that

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<v Speaker 2>Corbell might be Mark's mom and this is the reason

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<v Speaker 2>why she was kind of involved with the labor process

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<v Speaker 2>of like one, you know, what was she doing there?

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<v Speaker 2>She was pretending to be the selactation nurse, was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of caring for the child, and the theory goes that

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<v Speaker 2>she might be Mark's mom. In this series of they

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to and this is where it gets weird, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>because they were trying to birth like the perfect almost

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<v Speaker 2>almost like a moon child, but with the Kier spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>And this comes into play when James Egan walks in

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<v Speaker 2>on Helly the any of his daughter and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know he was when she goes to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stab him, she goes he goes, oh, there it is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the spirit of Kiera or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>The fire. He says something along those lines.

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<v Speaker 2>And what they're hinting at is that Helly's any has

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<v Speaker 2>this kier spirit, but her Audi doesn't. So James Egan

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<v Speaker 2>prefers that any of his daughter and loves that any

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<v Speaker 2>of his.

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<v Speaker 3>Daughter, but not her Audi. Bro.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's all tied in with the mom of Corbel

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, and I want to say that the way

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<v Speaker 2>they broke it down, and I forgot how it went,

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<v Speaker 2>that Corbell's mom might have been one of these, because

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<v Speaker 2>James Egan hints at kind of sort of spreading his

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<v Speaker 2>seat around and having many Deeter Egan right, The is

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<v Speaker 2>an anagram for AI generated. So they have this other

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<v Speaker 3>Do they call that other realm that was frozen? Was

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<v Speaker 2>It's not, it's it's a place that they're they're speculating

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<v Speaker 3>So the entire.

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<v Speaker 2>Building of Bro, the entire building of Lumen is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a portal, and these Innis are able to

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<v Speaker 2>before comes into place. So I'm gonna find the outdoor

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<v Speaker 2>Of Peter Egan National Force, the men Minawaska State Park

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<v Speaker 2>H So yeah, the Ortbow the outdoor retreating team building

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<v Speaker 2>occurrence by Milchick. And by the way, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I think Milchick's my favorite character Shadow. When he

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny. And then when he's doing the dancing

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever he was doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I joked whenever I was watching it, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this what Milchik has been doing this entire time?

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<v Speaker 1>Is preparing all this freaking choreography. That's why he's not

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<v Speaker 1>getting anything done and he's behind because he's doing all

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<v Speaker 1>this dance choreography and preparing for the final Cold Harbor completion,

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<v Speaker 1>which that part is kind of confusing to me as well.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of open ended things. We still needs hollow.

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<v Speaker 1>What was hell That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the here and here's the thing, so Deeter

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<v Speaker 2>Egan National Forest and the waterfall being Woe's hollow. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna look up to see if Deeder Egan National Force

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<v Speaker 2>exists in the Severance universe, because if it doesn't, then

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<v Speaker 2>it's this liminal space outside of reality that.

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<v Speaker 3>Only existed for them in that time being. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it kind of seemed like a simulation because it

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<v Speaker 1>started out with I think Irving like out on the ice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, are they in a simulation? But

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<v Speaker 1>then they made it seem like it was actually real

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<v Speaker 1>the further the episode went into it and the further

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<v Speaker 1>things went in because they were talking about like dying

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<v Speaker 1>out there, if they could die out there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Irving is essentially like lost and like after Helly and

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<v Speaker 1>then he attempts to kill Helly. So it's it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it was really happening. So I don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>how that works and how they even got them there.

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<v Speaker 2>This part is reminding me of like, uh, that show

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<v Speaker 2>that movie that we watched, What the hell is it

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<v Speaker 2>called Cattle Lake? Where it's like super confusing here, pull

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<v Speaker 2>up my screen here real quick. So I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out if Deeter Egan National Force is an actual place.

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<v Speaker 2>So ker Pe is that where we're at?

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<v Speaker 3>Fictional town?

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<v Speaker 2>So it is an actual place in the town a

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<v Speaker 2>corporate town built by illumin Industries for its employees and name.

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<v Speaker 2>The town is named after Kir Egan and several locations

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it is a real place, but it did

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<v Speaker 2>while there. Yeah, And here's a forested wilderness area and

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<v Speaker 2>kere Pe named after Kier Egan's twin brother Deeter Egan,

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<v Speaker 2>which again is an anagram for AI generated in the

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<v Speaker 2>area contains several landmarks, including Scissor Cave, where Kier Egan

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<v Speaker 2>was said by Seth Miltrick to have tamed the four tempers,

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<v Speaker 2>and Woe's Hollow, where Kir claims to have met the

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<v Speaker 2>temper Woe for the first time. It also contains a

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<v Speaker 2>lake overlooked by a rocky promontory which resembles a scene

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<v Speaker 2>depicted in the Kere cycle painting. Kier invites you to

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<v Speaker 2>drink his wa, drink his water, I mean drink of

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<v Speaker 2>his water, which in al chemical terms that's semen bro

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's uh, the water is semen. So here we

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<v Speaker 2>have Kier invite you to drink his water. People are

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<v Speaker 2>saying this resembles the the the Michigan Lakes right the

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<v Speaker 2>Grand Lakes. And also this painting reminds me of this

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<v Speaker 2>other painting could have swore was related to oo, this

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<v Speaker 2>one right here starting today, let's see it reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>of have you seen this painting before?

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<v Speaker 1>No, but it looks very similar.

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<v Speaker 3>It does.

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<v Speaker 2>Here you go Casper David Frederick The Soul of Nature.

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<v Speaker 2>You imagine European landscampaigning by portraying nature as a setting

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<v Speaker 2>for a profound, spiritual and emotional encounters, working in the

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<v Speaker 2>Van Oud of German Romantic movement, which campaign So the

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<v Speaker 2>Soul of Nature. Let's look up to see if there's

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<v Speaker 2>any esoteric, esoteric meaning for this particular and for those listening,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a painting of a man overlooking a cliff essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's looking into the wilderness. And essentially and this

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<v Speaker 2>is Ai by the way, so just take it for

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it's worth. An esoteric context, the soul of nature

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<v Speaker 2>often refers to the belief that nature possesses a fundamental,

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<v Speaker 2>interconnected and spiritual essence mirroring our own souls, and that

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<v Speaker 2>connecting with nature can lead to deeper self awareness and

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual growth. Which that's not wrong. I mean, when you

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<v Speaker 2>go out into nature, you're supposed to connect with I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to say reality, but it kind of in

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<v Speaker 2>a way, you're connecting to reality a little bit more. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you meditate, you do if you do yoga, then you

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you stretch out there, look at this. Nature

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<v Speaker 2>is the portal to the soul, a gateway to the self.

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<v Speaker 2>So again this show is getting very kind of Youngion

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<v Speaker 2>in a way.

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<v Speaker 3>It was about.

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<v Speaker 2>Looking within and the end is the any. Right, the

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<v Speaker 2>ani is your I don't want to say dark self,

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<v Speaker 2>but kind of r it's your ego. And when your

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<v Speaker 2>ego sometimes as a want to let go, which was

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<v Speaker 2>the whole problem that Mark was having when he's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to convince his any to help him save his wife,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like no, no, no, no, no, I'm in love

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<v Speaker 2>with Helly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's who I'm in love with him.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I save your wife, that means I won't

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<v Speaker 2>be with the person that I want to be with.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, now the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>After the season ends, now people are getting into the

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<v Speaker 2>theory of perhaps James Egan is gonna have a way

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<v Speaker 2>for Helly's any to be permanent, because that's the one

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<v Speaker 2>that has.

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<v Speaker 3>That Kier fire, that Kier spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I don't know if they're trying to manifest something

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<v Speaker 2>bro like in reality. Because the weird animatronic scene where

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<v Speaker 2>Milchik is talking and kind of arguing with the animatronic

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<v Speaker 2>where it's kind of going off script, people are speculating

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<v Speaker 2>that that might still have Kierre's consciousness to a certain level.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was and by the way, that was Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Steller's voice the Kier animatronic, that that was and that's.

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<v Speaker 1>What it was. We were looking that up on the

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<v Speaker 1>last show. Mm hm. We saw who was Keanu Reeves.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the building in the video that they showed him

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<v Speaker 2>where it's like here at lowin we care about what

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<v Speaker 2>youth and like they were showing them the tribute to

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<v Speaker 2>their department.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that was so weird. Dude, like, why would

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<v Speaker 1>you why would you go ahead first and deep into

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<v Speaker 1>the uprising at Lumen? Dude, Like that was so strange.

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<v Speaker 1>That must only be for the people inside of Lumen,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's no way that they made that for people.

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<v Speaker 1>There's normal, everyday people. For a commercial that you would show.

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<v Speaker 2>To the like the audis, yeah, this is the this

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<v Speaker 2>is the video where they're thinking that they're like thanking

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<v Speaker 2>them for for doing the uprising and kind of doing

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<v Speaker 2>this video of like making them feel that they made

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<v Speaker 2>a difference. That was Keanu Reeves's voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I was wondering where they were, but I binge

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<v Speaker 1>them kind of back to back to back to back.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too and that, And this is gonna be one

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<v Speaker 2>of those shows where you're gonna have to go back

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<v Speaker 2>and rewatch. So what I'll probably do is have to

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<v Speaker 2>rewatch season two when season three comes out to get

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<v Speaker 2>a fresher, like a refresher on the whole lore because honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of goes deep. And I was asking you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hey, is there any books on this, like,

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<v Speaker 2>cause it's kind of interesting once you start getting into it,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to learn more about the the lure because

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<v Speaker 2>what interests me the most about this particular.

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<v Speaker 3>Show was.

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<v Speaker 2>That, mind you, I talk about the esoteric and the

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<v Speaker 2>occult and things of this nature, and the reason that

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<v Speaker 2>this name, you know, nature is the portal to the

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<v Speaker 2>self and all this sort of stuff interests me because

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<v Speaker 2>also I've seen this painting in reference to Nietzsche, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure, I don't remember exactly where I saw

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<v Speaker 2>it in relation to Nietzsche. It might have been like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you're staring out into the abyss, the

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<v Speaker 2>abyss starts to stare back into you sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've seen this particular painting in reference to him.

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<v Speaker 2>And what interests me the most about this show is

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm watching, I'm looking for this occult connotation to everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for this occult aspect, and this show kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wanted to go there. It wanted to get a

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<v Speaker 2>cult and it kind of did you know at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of season one with the whole choreograph masonic flooring,

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<v Speaker 2>weird ritual that they were doing where Dylan sits on

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<v Speaker 2>the bed and puts on the head of Kier and

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<v Speaker 2>watches the tempers exactly is essentially what he was watching, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the tempers. That was kind of a cult, and then

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<v Speaker 2>in season two it kind of gets a cult when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the goats. Now, mind you, a baby

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<v Speaker 2>goat is called a kid, and the kid symbolism is

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the whole Egan thing. It was like their mascot

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<v Speaker 2>for the school. And also you see the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the the.

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<v Speaker 3>Kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to pull it up here, so Egan kid

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<v Speaker 2>school book. It was like a school book that you saw.

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<v Speaker 2>So the baby goat stuff is right here, So go

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<v Speaker 2>go fighting kids.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is like a baby goat, right, go fighting kids.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is I believe look at this, look at

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<v Speaker 2>this theory, bro, bro it gets crazy. But point being

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<v Speaker 2>that the goats right and you know which scene I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about where they present the goat as a sacrifice,

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<v Speaker 2>which was so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really understand. I mean, he was like explaining it, Drummond,

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<v Speaker 1>Mister Drummond was explaining like why they had to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was kind of like out of love Field,

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes you believe that it's sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>a like what they're trying to do with the humans

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<v Speaker 1>as well. They're essentially trying to form humans, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>also trying to form goats to find like the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>goat to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing goats in certain Druidic and other cultures,

422
00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:33.400
<v Speaker 2>the goat is the cycle pomp. The goat is the

423
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:38.640
<v Speaker 2>spirit that guides the person in the afterlife. Okay, And

424
00:24:38.680 --> 00:24:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to pull up the symbols on the table.

425
00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Mark safe from becoming a sacrifice for Kir.

426
00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:49.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to find the table in which they put

427
00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:53.200
<v Speaker 2>the little baby goat in because it has some symbols

428
00:24:53.240 --> 00:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>on it and it shows like the steps into what

429
00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:00.039
<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to do. But again, right, you have the

430
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:03.359
<v Speaker 2>black goat, this guy here, you have this whole department

431
00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:08.640
<v Speaker 2>where they're like raising these goats. But they kind of

432
00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:13.000
<v Speaker 2>seem like like heathens, you know, like they seem like

433
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of uh, it's the girl from Game of Thrones,

434
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:18.440
<v Speaker 2>by the way, that big tall one. They kind of

435
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:20.759
<v Speaker 2>seem like like heathens. And I'm just thinking about the

436
00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.559
<v Speaker 2>we will fight that heathens. We will fight that Hethn's

437
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:27.480
<v Speaker 2>a system of a down, you know, the whole thing.

438
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:33.200
<v Speaker 2>So the here she is right here, Severn's finally reveals

439
00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:36.519
<v Speaker 2>the dark purpose for Luman's goat. So anyways, they're they're

440
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:40.759
<v Speaker 2>asking for sacrifices. Now what I thought was gonna happen

441
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:44.359
<v Speaker 2>because I didn't know what that that gun did. What

442
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I thought was gonna happen. This is what I was

443
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:49.559
<v Speaker 2>thinking as I'm watching the show. I'm thinking that they're

444
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:55.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna take Gemma's soul or consciousness and transfer it into

445
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:59.039
<v Speaker 2>this goat this kid. That's what I thought was gonna happen,

446
00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:01.680
<v Speaker 2>because he didn't know what the gun was gonna do

447
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:06.960
<v Speaker 2>until he's got it up to Drummond's neck and they.

448
00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:12.200
<v Speaker 1>That was my favorite part, dude. That was my favorite

449
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:14.759
<v Speaker 1>part of the entire season two when they're going down

450
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the elevator and Mark turns into his audi and he

451
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:23.519
<v Speaker 1>stabs Drumming in the neck with the gun. Dude, so ah, man,

452
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that was classic.

453
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:30.519
<v Speaker 2>The name Drummond has a certain connotation. It's got a

454
00:26:30.599 --> 00:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>meaning behind it, and I'm trying to find it because

455
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:37.240
<v Speaker 2>it meant something along so Druman meaning ridge or hill

456
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.119
<v Speaker 2>into kntting, connection to the land, to pography of Scotland.

457
00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.480
<v Speaker 2>And they again they broke it down really interesting in

458
00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.759
<v Speaker 2>the in the video that I was watching that didn't

459
00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:50.079
<v Speaker 2>take any notes from.

460
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:53.119
<v Speaker 3>But that part got kind of a cult in a

461
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:53.480
<v Speaker 3>little way.

462
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Let me see if I can find a picture of

463
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the right because we've been wondering what the hell the

464
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:00.240
<v Speaker 2>goats were since the very beginning, like, yo, is this

465
00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:05.160
<v Speaker 2>a connection to like mind control what exactly is going on?

466
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:08.279
<v Speaker 1>But what was so weird that they didn't follow up

467
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:11.920
<v Speaker 1>on is in the first couple of episodes, whenever Mark

468
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>is going around looming with Helly and then they stumble

469
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 1>back into the goat lodge, Uh, they asked to see

470
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:27.519
<v Speaker 1>their belly buttons, to lift up their shirts to show

471
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:30.799
<v Speaker 1>their belly buttons. Yeah, And I'm like, okay, well, this

472
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>means that there's like they're cloning people here. Oh yeah,

473
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>because if you didn't have a belly button, then that

474
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.920
<v Speaker 1>would mean that you were essentially birthed outside of the womb,

475
00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that you were like your clone, because the ambilic accord

476
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>to the belly button means that you were born of

477
00:27:53.279 --> 00:27:58.039
<v Speaker 1>a natural birth. So I was like, okay, well, this

478
00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:02.680
<v Speaker 1>definitely has something to do with cloning as well, and

479
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:06.079
<v Speaker 1>then they didn't really follow up on that. I'm guessing

480
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>that in season three they're going to do some kind

481
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:13.640
<v Speaker 1>of uh follow up with the cloning stuff, because why

482
00:28:13.680 --> 00:28:15.519
<v Speaker 1>would they put that in there? Oh, let me see

483
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>your lift up your shirt and let me see you

484
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>see your belly button. And Helly lifts up her shirt

485
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:22.279
<v Speaker 1>and Mark lifts up their shirt and they both have

486
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 1>a belly button. And then the one guy was like,

487
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:25.839
<v Speaker 1>well that doesn't mean anything.

488
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh it didn't make sense to him.

489
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:32.119
<v Speaker 2>But maybe this is what they're hinting at here where

490
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.799
<v Speaker 2>they're actually growing sheep.

491
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:36.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh, this is you know, this is a sheep, not.

492
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:41.079
<v Speaker 2>A goat, but where they're growing sheep in artificial matrixes,

493
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 2>this is this is real, like this is.

494
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:47.119
<v Speaker 1>The first cloned animal was a sheep, Dolly the sheep.

495
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so maybe they're hinting at that.

496
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:54.559
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they put in a goat because the goat symbolizes

497
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:55.079
<v Speaker 2>like the.

498
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, the cycle pomp, so we find it here.

499
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:11.680
<v Speaker 2>You also have the Greek god Pan, Roman god Mercury,

500
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 2>which are kind of goat. Baphomet is a freaking goat.

501
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:22.599
<v Speaker 2>The dude wearing the horns. So again, were they kind

502
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:29.359
<v Speaker 2>of getting satanic? People were saying that her her outfit

503
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.079
<v Speaker 2>right in all black was kind of satanic. And then

504
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 2>maybe this is mirroring like the again Druidic kind of

505
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:41.400
<v Speaker 2>sort of origins and is that the new interpretation of

506
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:46.240
<v Speaker 2>like corporate America, corporate greed, we're all sheep, you know,

507
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:49.960
<v Speaker 2>being sacrificed to molocc essentially. I mean I don't because

508
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:52.200
<v Speaker 2>there's you got to remember that this show also has

509
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 2>a lot of that underlying theme of the overreaching of

510
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:01.400
<v Speaker 2>corporations and things of this nature. So it might not

511
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.480
<v Speaker 2>be one hundred percent a cult and like oh look

512
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 2>they're sacrificing goats whatever it might have like hey, you're

513
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:10.160
<v Speaker 2>the goat, Like you're getting sacrificed, like you're the sheep

514
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:14.160
<v Speaker 2>being led to the slaughter, right, Because that's also another

515
00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>interpretation of the whole show, which was let me look

516
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:23.000
<v Speaker 2>up the so now we can read the whole wiki

517
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.920
<v Speaker 2>page without without spoilers.

518
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Without spoilers. So let me pull it up here.

519
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:36.400
<v Speaker 2>So reception, a viewership, critical response, Let's see what we

520
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>keep ideas saying about the symbolism behind it because marketing release,

521
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh hold on, what's going on here? Writing, casting, set design, filming. Yeah,

522
00:30:54.559 --> 00:30:56.799
<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was so interesting. Ben Stiller is like.

523
00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>One of the main.

524
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:02.599
<v Speaker 2>The main people behind this show, which you wouldn't think

525
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>that about him, right.

526
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he's a comedian, he I mean, they

527
00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>might have this type of sense of humor in him,

528
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:16.319
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about it with Zulander one and Zulander two,

529
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>which is essentially like mk ultra stuff. So he's kind

530
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 1>of had this. I feel like he's had this in

531
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 1>his chamber for a while and he's trying to spit

532
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:29.160
<v Speaker 1>all this because the only this kind of blew up

533
00:31:29.200 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>through like audience, like grassroots type of thing, Like I

534
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think that they were expecting it to go over

535
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:41.759
<v Speaker 1>this well. It seemed like it was a really niche thing,

536
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.839
<v Speaker 1>sort of like I know I've referenced From like so

537
00:31:44.920 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 1>many times on MGM plus, but that's what happened with

538
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>From as well. Like some people watched the first season,

539
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:54.799
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't any promotion for it, no one really cared

540
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:58.039
<v Speaker 1>about it, and then it got this like big audience

541
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:00.880
<v Speaker 1>reaction like what the fuck is going on in the show,

542
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>and it kind of blew up from there. And that's

543
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>what I feel like that happened with this show, because

544
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>like you were mentioning the first five episodes, like you're

545
00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:15.079
<v Speaker 1>just like we just keeping Yeah, we just keep doing

546
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the same thing over and over and over again, Like

547
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>what is going on? With this thing.

548
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:23.559
<v Speaker 2>So here we have some free Masonic symbolism, the beehive.

549
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:29.200
<v Speaker 2>The beehive is right, and free Masonic symbology is the

550
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:36.559
<v Speaker 2>whole thing. They say that it represents camaraderie, structure, working with.

551
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.359
<v Speaker 3>Your people, like you know, a team sort of thing.

552
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Right, the beehive and this particular guy here at Russell

553
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Net he's talking about I think the writers and visual

554
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>artists behind Severn's had quite a bit of fun playing

555
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.559
<v Speaker 2>with Masonic imagery. I don't mean that in a satanic

556
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.680
<v Speaker 2>panic sense. I mean that they're doing it intentionally as

557
00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:57.680
<v Speaker 2>a hint to the audience about what they're trying to

558
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>say with the show. For the purpose of this article,

559
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:05.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm lumping Freemasonry, the Illuminati, and Luciferianism into one big pile. Normally,

560
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you can go way off track by looking too deeply

561
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.720
<v Speaker 2>into minute details of TV shows. Severance is not like that.

562
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:15.039
<v Speaker 2>Severance seems to invite the viewer to freeze frame everything,

563
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>to examine it closely. That was one thing I didn't

564
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:19.720
<v Speaker 2>enjoy about the show, because a lot of the things

565
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:20.799
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't catch.

566
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 3>Was the Helly's.

567
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess Employee I D was the same as Cold Harbor.

568
00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:33.240
<v Speaker 2>So they're trying to say that she is kind of Gemma.

569
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>She kind of says that too. She's like, I'm her.

570
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>What the hell did she mean by I'm her? I

571
00:33:39.720 --> 00:33:45.680
<v Speaker 2>took that as that she was Gemma or maybe Helly's

572
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.279
<v Speaker 2>any is one of the consciousnesses of the files that

573
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.599
<v Speaker 2>they created, and they put it into Helly and that's

574
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:55.480
<v Speaker 2>why he falls in love with her.

575
00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:58.519
<v Speaker 1>That's right, That's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, yeah,

576
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.079
<v Speaker 1>because that didn't make any sense, because they want you

577
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:03.519
<v Speaker 1>to relate that part where she says I'm her as

578
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:08.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm the any version of her AUDI version. But I

579
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>don't think that that's exactly what's going on. I think

580
00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that because the whole thing doesn't really make too much

581
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:18.800
<v Speaker 1>sense as to because it seems like Mark is the

582
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.960
<v Speaker 1>only They basically explain that Mark is the only one

583
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>that can do this to her. He's the only one

584
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>that can get rid of all of her, like the

585
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 1>things to create a super consciousness for her to like

586
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:39.360
<v Speaker 1>go into. Right. Yeah, but Pete pe D in the

587
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:45.159
<v Speaker 1>beginning of the series was the head of the Severed Floor. Yeah,

588
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>before Mark wasn't always the head of the Severed Floor.

589
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 1>So what was he working on when he was the

590
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>head of the Severn floor down there? Was he? Because

591
00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't make any sense. How could Mark have been

592
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the only one that can do this for however many

593
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:08.239
<v Speaker 1>years that they've been there when he hasn't been the

594
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.199
<v Speaker 1>head person that's employed down there when it was PD

595
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>up into the point that we started in, and he

596
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:16.199
<v Speaker 1>had already been there for like how many years, like

597
00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:17.840
<v Speaker 1>two years up into that point.

598
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and somebody did the math, by the way, and

599
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:24.840
<v Speaker 2>this show would take place in twenty thirty five, And yeah,

600
00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:28.519
<v Speaker 2>that part didn't make sense to me because the magnum

601
00:35:28.639 --> 00:35:32.559
<v Speaker 2>opus was Cold Harbor, which they hinted at Cold Harbor

602
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.480
<v Speaker 2>in the episode where they're looking back at Gema and

603
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Mark's relationship and the baby crib on the box. If

604
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.920
<v Speaker 2>you read the box, it had the letters that would

605
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.199
<v Speaker 2>spell out Cold Harbor. So again, if you're not watching

606
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.639
<v Speaker 2>the show, how this guy's saying freezing it frame by frame,

607
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna understand it. And that was That's one

608
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 2>of the mistakes I made when I was watching the show,

609
00:35:57.159 --> 00:35:59.840
<v Speaker 2>because I was watching it while I was working, So

610
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm paying attention, but I'm not paying like attention, You

611
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>get what I'm saying, Like.

612
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>And bro, who the fuck is the young Asian girl?

613
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was a young Gemma, maybe a cloned

614
00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:19.639
<v Speaker 2>version of Gemma, because they kind of sort of kept

615
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:22.840
<v Speaker 2>her with the same not the same job. But it

616
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:24.880
<v Speaker 2>was weird that there was a child there. That's why

617
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Dylan was like, hey, are you sure?

618
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:28.119
<v Speaker 3>Like are you here?

619
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Do you want to be here? You're not being kept

620
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.079
<v Speaker 2>here by you know, against your will? She was an intern,

621
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:38.159
<v Speaker 2>but I think right in turn internal maybe it was

622
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>another consciousness of Gemma because she comes into play after

623
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:47.760
<v Speaker 2>they're almost already done. So maybe they bred no pun

624
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:51.079
<v Speaker 2>intended one of those consciousnesses and they put it into

625
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 2>a little girl because we still don't know who the

626
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:53.320
<v Speaker 2>hell she is.

627
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 1>And then they got rid of her right whenever Cold

628
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.039
<v Speaker 1>Harbor was getting ready to be complete.

629
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, because they were all gonna die once Cold Harbor.

630
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:06.039
<v Speaker 2>So again the magnum Opus was finish this thing, and

631
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 2>what they wanted to do was what they were trying

632
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:14.800
<v Speaker 2>to achieve. They were trying to see which how far

633
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:18.639
<v Speaker 2>this shield could go, right, this shield that separates all

634
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.639
<v Speaker 2>the innies and all these different because when Jemma was

635
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.719
<v Speaker 2>being tested on in all these different rooms.

636
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:26.039
<v Speaker 3>They would always ask her like, hey, who are you

637
00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:26.840
<v Speaker 3>and she.

638
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't remember what was happening in the previous rooms, And

639
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.440
<v Speaker 2>mind you, every single room was a different file that

640
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:35.400
<v Speaker 2>they were working on. So what they wanted to achieve

641
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.880
<v Speaker 2>at the very end with Cold Harbor was if they

642
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:46.079
<v Speaker 2>could make somebody who is diassembling their dead child's crib,

643
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 2>if they could make that person forget that trauma and

644
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:55.159
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't able to bleed through, they were successful. And

645
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:57.599
<v Speaker 2>that's why James Egan went into that weird room that

646
00:37:57.639 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 2>he went into, and they were watching it all in

647
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:05.760
<v Speaker 2>because then they're magnum opus or their last experiment, whatever

648
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.760
<v Speaker 2>this is, because mind you, it seems like there's a

649
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:14.320
<v Speaker 2>bigger plot and the board almost seems like they're interdimensional.

650
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 3>They are.

651
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Like the Watchers or how this guy is talking about

652
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:24.079
<v Speaker 2>the Illuminati, because they're always present. You can only tap

653
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:26.920
<v Speaker 2>into them through that one girl where she's like, is

654
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:27.719
<v Speaker 2>the board here?

655
00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Yes, they are.

656
00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.239
<v Speaker 2>It's like you want to talk to them and then

657
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:33.599
<v Speaker 2>you have to kind of sort of do it through

658
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:34.920
<v Speaker 2>like a medium.

659
00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 3>They're like a priest, a priestess.

660
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:41.559
<v Speaker 2>She's talking them through this person so they're doing all

661
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:45.239
<v Speaker 2>this for the quote unquote board. We still don't know

662
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 2>if the board is even actual people, or if the

663
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:51.239
<v Speaker 2>board might be some sort of AI bro Like what

664
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:54.719
<v Speaker 2>if the board is a sort of AI algorithm with

665
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the whole Deeter Egan, which is AI generated.

666
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:00.840
<v Speaker 3>We don't know where that plays a role.

667
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:05.559
<v Speaker 2>And maybe there's a bigger scheme behind everything, and that's

668
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.280
<v Speaker 2>that might be where they're taking the whole show. Because

669
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:11.400
<v Speaker 2>we got a lot of answers, but we still don't.

670
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:14.199
<v Speaker 2>We still have a lot of questions, right, like the

671
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:15.639
<v Speaker 2>hell was the little girl?

672
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:18.480
<v Speaker 3>What the hell is the point of it all? Like

673
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 3>what's the point of the whole thing?

674
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:24.039
<v Speaker 2>Because once Cold Harbor was done, they were all gonna die.

675
00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:27.039
<v Speaker 2>What does that even mean?

676
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Whether it's just you know.

677
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:31.280
<v Speaker 1>This is what I thought was going to happen. As

678
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I was watching it, I was like, Okay, Mark is

679
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.119
<v Speaker 1>going to decide to go down there, He's going to

680
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:43.159
<v Speaker 1>rescue her. But whenever they completed Cold Harbor, because they

681
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.440
<v Speaker 1>talked about it several times that whenever Cold Harbor was

682
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>going to be complete, she was going to die, like

683
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Jimma was going to cease to exist. But that was

684
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:58.519
<v Speaker 1>a metaphor that wasn't real. It was that she wasn't

685
00:39:58.559 --> 00:39:59.760
<v Speaker 1>going to physically die.

686
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.159
<v Speaker 3>She was going to be reborn.

687
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:06.119
<v Speaker 1>As a supper consciousness, okay, and that was going to

688
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:09.639
<v Speaker 1>be the final consciousness. So what I thought was going

689
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to happen was Mark was going to get down there

690
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:19.760
<v Speaker 1>rescued Jemma. But Jemma was permanently going to be this robot.

691
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:23.000
<v Speaker 1>She was going to be perma burnt. She wasn't going

692
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:24.639
<v Speaker 1>to be able to have any of the emotions, she

693
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:26.760
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to She's going to essentially be a brand

694
00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>new human adult and not know anything. And I thought

695
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:34.159
<v Speaker 1>she was going to be like that forever. So whenever

696
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:38.559
<v Speaker 1>he took her back up the elevator, I thought that

697
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>she was going to stay the way that she was

698
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>whenever she was in there disassembling the baby crip. So

699
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.159
<v Speaker 1>she was going to be like But but that defeats

700
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the purpose of this big, huge, cold harbor thing, because

701
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought that that was going to erase all of

702
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:02.199
<v Speaker 1>the other segments of the consciousness that had been created, okay,

703
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:04.800
<v Speaker 1>And I thought that she was just going to be

704
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that individual from the very beginning, I mean, like from

705
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:12.360
<v Speaker 1>there on out. So whenever she walks into disassemble the crib,

706
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Mark's going to walk in there, He's

707
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:18.960
<v Speaker 1>going to recognize her. She has absolutely no idea who

708
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>he is. He convinces her to come with him, should

709
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.519
<v Speaker 1>they go up the elevator, and then whenever they go

710
00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>back into their any I thought she was going to

711
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 1>stay the exact same and that he was going to

712
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>have a really big problem. I thought she was just

713
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:33.119
<v Speaker 1>going to be Perma burn.

714
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 3>Dude.

715
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought she was going to be Perma fried. And

716
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:37.639
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, that would have been really interesting

717
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.199
<v Speaker 1>to do. Because they essentially want to from what I

718
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.519
<v Speaker 1>gathered and watching it through one time, is that they

719
00:41:45.760 --> 00:41:51.239
<v Speaker 1>want to create this like robot type of person. Right.

720
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>They want to clear out all of these They want

721
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to clear out fear, they want to clear out envy.

722
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:58.519
<v Speaker 1>They when I get rid of all the normal emotions

723
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.039
<v Speaker 1>of a human being, exactly all the woes, and they

724
00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:04.599
<v Speaker 1>want to create a person that has no emotions so

725
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>they can essentially do this task all the time twenty

726
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>four to seven, and then they're not considered a human

727
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:13.119
<v Speaker 1>being anymore, so they can work here forever and never

728
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.679
<v Speaker 1>have to leave. Okay, and that's what I was, That's

729
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:19.679
<v Speaker 1>what I kind of gathered was the goal. And I

730
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:23.039
<v Speaker 1>thought whenever Cold Harbor was going to be complete, that

731
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>that was going to erase all the other separations of

732
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:29.840
<v Speaker 1>consciousness whenever she goes into the the room and she

733
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:33.440
<v Speaker 1>was going to be permanently like that individual. And that

734
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:35.760
<v Speaker 1>made sense to me. I was like, Okay, well that

735
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:40.119
<v Speaker 1>makes more sense than because it doesn't really make a

736
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of sense as to why that this version of

737
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 1>her was so important, Like why would that have to

738
00:42:48.679 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>be the end? Why couldn't they separate and do another

739
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.280
<v Speaker 1>consciousness after this consciousness?

740
00:42:55.559 --> 00:42:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think so there's a few things going on.

741
00:42:58.239 --> 00:43:03.079
<v Speaker 2>And you have to also remember, right at the end

742
00:43:03.079 --> 00:43:06.880
<v Speaker 2>of the day, they can sever these people whenever they want.

743
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.679
<v Speaker 2>They already prove that that they can do this whenever

744
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:12.119
<v Speaker 2>wherever they are. They don't have to be right, this

745
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 2>overtime contingency right that they're able to tap into where

746
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 2>they're able to shift these people's consciousness wherever they are,

747
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:23.039
<v Speaker 2>no matter the time, no matter the place, which kind

748
00:43:23.039 --> 00:43:25.719
<v Speaker 2>of Hey, they don't have to be at Lumen for

749
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:28.440
<v Speaker 2>them to be a severed person. They could be out

750
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 2>in the real world, which you know, that's the whole

751
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:34.679
<v Speaker 2>thing that happened when he was out in the book

752
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.920
<v Speaker 2>reading party. But also another part of me is telling

753
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:44.239
<v Speaker 2>me that the innies might have a special ability, and

754
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:47.639
<v Speaker 2>that's why it needs to be them in order to

755
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:52.239
<v Speaker 2>birth these other innies into existence, because why not just Hey,

756
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:55.159
<v Speaker 2>if you already have the technology and you already know

757
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.159
<v Speaker 2>how to do this, and you can already sever people,

758
00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:58.519
<v Speaker 2>why not just do it on your own?

759
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:00.199
<v Speaker 3>Why do you need people to do it for you?

760
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:03.199
<v Speaker 2>And that's the part that's weird, because they have to

761
00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:06.960
<v Speaker 2>be these worker bees for the man, for the corporation,

762
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.880
<v Speaker 2>for Lumen that has to conduct this task. Now they say, oh,

763
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:13.679
<v Speaker 2>it's because he can feel the numbers and the numbers

764
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:18.800
<v Speaker 2>are what the numbers are different aspects of in this

765
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:23.000
<v Speaker 2>in this particular, since Jemma's mind, right, that that that

766
00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>was the way that her mind works, and that they

767
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:31.440
<v Speaker 2>were able to deconstruct and reconstruct other consciousnesses of Gemma. Right,

768
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.239
<v Speaker 2>But is that true for everybody else? Because how you

769
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 2>were saying, Pete, what the hell was he doing? Was

770
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:44.079
<v Speaker 2>he also building ulterior innis or other other any's for Gemma?

771
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Like who was he working on?

772
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? What was he doing?

773
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:48.760
<v Speaker 2>There.

774
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:52.079
<v Speaker 1>That's that's like one of the seems like a continuity

775
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:55.400
<v Speaker 1>are but maybe they'll I think the whole thing with

776
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Pete is like just done. They scrapped it, the whole

777
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>thing with Pete on they're going to go back to that.

778
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:04.559
<v Speaker 1>But that was my question because it kind of seemed

779
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:08.440
<v Speaker 1>like it all centered around Mark and his relationship with

780
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>his wife, and he's the only one that can do

781
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.559
<v Speaker 1>the task. So it's like, what was Pete doing there?

782
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Was he working on his wife like or his relative

783
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.639
<v Speaker 1>of his But then that means, well, how are they

784
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>working on two people at the same time. It doesn't

785
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:30.719
<v Speaker 1>but I was really close in my theory. But that

786
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:33.519
<v Speaker 1>I said last time before I had watched season two

787
00:45:33.719 --> 00:45:37.000
<v Speaker 1>was that I thought that they were keeping the severed

788
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>people severed, and I was kind of close. It was

789
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:46.119
<v Speaker 1>just for one individual, but it wasn't for everyone. But hey,

790
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I was just semi semi had it.

791
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I'm reading into Pete to see what his

792
00:45:53.800 --> 00:46:00.639
<v Speaker 2>whole backstory was, and I'm not seeing why he was

793
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:03.559
<v Speaker 2>there like his we because we saw his wife and

794
00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:07.079
<v Speaker 2>his daughter, So he wasn't there because of like he

795
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:10.119
<v Speaker 2>was missing somebody, Like how Mark was where he was

796
00:46:10.159 --> 00:46:13.280
<v Speaker 2>missing his wife because she had passed, and then well

797
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:18.480
<v Speaker 2>we thought she had passed. So to tie this into

798
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:22.440
<v Speaker 2>like the bigger picture of the grand conspiracy of people

799
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:27.079
<v Speaker 2>like oh, did did old Jeffrey really die? Or where

800
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.840
<v Speaker 2>we presented this concept that he died and maybe he's

801
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.559
<v Speaker 2>on some remote island somewhere, you know, his any self,

802
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 2>or maybe they transferred the consciousness to you know you guys,

803
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.360
<v Speaker 2>b drive whatever and they answered it, you know, in

804
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:42.719
<v Speaker 2>some other body like another vessel. Because that's what this

805
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>is kind of sort of getting into. If you're able

806
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:51.280
<v Speaker 2>to uh compartmentalize someone's mind, what are you then able.

807
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:51.840
<v Speaker 3>To do with that?

808
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.440
<v Speaker 2>If you're able to break it down and store it

809
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.239
<v Speaker 2>into a computer essentially or a hard drive or something.

810
00:46:57.960 --> 00:46:58.280
<v Speaker 1>What do you?

811
00:46:58.320 --> 00:46:59.559
<v Speaker 3>What do you?

812
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.280
<v Speaker 2>What can what else can you do with that? You

813
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying like, there's a bigger there's a

814
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:07.039
<v Speaker 2>bigger conspiracy at the end of all this, And I

815
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:11.519
<v Speaker 2>want to look into this particular article here where seven

816
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:16.000
<v Speaker 2>season two finales last shot is a warning about season three,

817
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:19.519
<v Speaker 2>ben Stiller said, So, they said that this shot here

818
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:26.079
<v Speaker 2>where it ends, is a warning about season three. Now,

819
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 2>ben Steller explains the significance of the freeze frame and

820
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.920
<v Speaker 2>the color red. At the end of the seven season

821
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:36.840
<v Speaker 2>two finale, the episode concludes with a freeze frame of

822
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>Mark and Helly running down a Lumen hallway highlighted in red.

823
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 2>This occurs after Marks and he chooses to go with

824
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Helly instead of his Audi's wife, Gemma. Apple TV Plus

825
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.800
<v Speaker 2>has already renewed seven season three, ensuring that the fall

826
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.599
<v Speaker 2>of this decision will be explored and that the stories

827
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:57.079
<v Speaker 2>of Mark, Helly and Gemma will continue. So maybe in

828
00:47:57.119 --> 00:48:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the next season, people were contemplating that they were gonna

829
00:48:01.559 --> 00:48:04.880
<v Speaker 2>that Gema was gonna be picked up by Mark's sister

830
00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:08.360
<v Speaker 2>and her husband, and that they were then able that

831
00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:11.559
<v Speaker 2>they were going to then try and save Mark from

832
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:15.880
<v Speaker 2>inside of Lumen. But then maybe perhaps Helly is going

833
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:19.559
<v Speaker 2>to have a permanent any because that's the one with

834
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.440
<v Speaker 2>the kier spirit, right, That's the one that has that

835
00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:26.880
<v Speaker 2>fire that her dad was talking about. In an interview

836
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 2>with Indy Wire, Stiller explained that the freeze frame is

837
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.960
<v Speaker 2>meant to be reminiscent of nineteen seventies movies, which sometimes

838
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:36.440
<v Speaker 2>use freeze frames to show that the movie is over,

839
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:39.800
<v Speaker 2>but that the story will continue. As for the color red,

840
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:43.679
<v Speaker 2>Stiller discussed how the color has been used minimally in

841
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:45.960
<v Speaker 2>this series so far, and that it was introduced to

842
00:48:46.039 --> 00:48:50.599
<v Speaker 2>visually mark a distinct turning point towards seven season threes,

843
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.000
<v Speaker 2>tone and story. And again, I didn't really realize the

844
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:58.039
<v Speaker 2>red all that much, to be honest, throughout the whole thing,

845
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.679
<v Speaker 2>he revealed. He also revealed how the scene was shot

846
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:03.239
<v Speaker 2>to make it feel like it was a scene out

847
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:05.920
<v Speaker 2>of an older movie, and he says, for me, that

848
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:09.159
<v Speaker 2>image was just in my head from the beginning when

849
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:11.519
<v Speaker 2>we said, Okay, we're going to go for this. We're

850
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 2>gonna go this far, and this is where we're going

851
00:49:13.679 --> 00:49:16.159
<v Speaker 2>to take it. You don't see freeze frames at the

852
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:19.119
<v Speaker 2>end of movies that often these days, but it's used

853
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:21.000
<v Speaker 2>to be. It used to be done a lot more.

854
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:23.559
<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of this moment in time where you're like,

855
00:49:23.599 --> 00:49:25.360
<v Speaker 2>oh wow, this is the end of the movie, but

856
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.159
<v Speaker 2>it's going to keep going. We just don't know where

857
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.880
<v Speaker 2>it's going to go. You marinate in this moment and

858
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:33.519
<v Speaker 2>reminded me of movies that I watched growing up. This

859
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:36.360
<v Speaker 2>slow zoom in on the freeze frame reminded me of

860
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:37.679
<v Speaker 2>seventies movies a little bit.

861
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.559
<v Speaker 1>We actually like all the Rocky movies.

862
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Did that really? I never I've never seen Rocky movies.

863
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:50.159
<v Speaker 2>We shoot this show digitally, but we transferred that last

864
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:54.280
<v Speaker 2>shot to film and retransferred it because we wanted to

865
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:56.320
<v Speaker 2>have the grain to zoom in on.

866
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:57.559
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

867
00:49:57.719 --> 00:49:59.599
<v Speaker 2>So it felt like a movie that would have been

868
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:02.199
<v Speaker 2>shot on film, where they would have had an optical

869
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 2>printer that would have zoomed in on it. And it

870
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:08.840
<v Speaker 2>goes to red, which we haven't really gone to before.

871
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.280
<v Speaker 2>I think it's kind of signaling, Hey, we're going into

872
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 2>a different tone here. Now we are going into a

873
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:19.320
<v Speaker 2>different reality for these people. Boom bro right there, They're

874
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:23.079
<v Speaker 2>a different reality for these people. So they're gonna be again,

875
00:50:24.079 --> 00:50:27.639
<v Speaker 2>what happens if the Lumen building gets destroyed?

876
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Do the anies go with it?

877
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Do those consciousness go with it? Because how far could

878
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:36.320
<v Speaker 2>they get away?

879
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:37.199
<v Speaker 3>And we know that.

880
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:40.159
<v Speaker 2>And the whole thing that I'm not liking about this

881
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:44.719
<v Speaker 2>ending of this show was that they could easily be

882
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:48.159
<v Speaker 2>turned off whenever they want to. Again, we have the

883
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:54.320
<v Speaker 2>overtime contingency. They have full control over these people at

884
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:57.760
<v Speaker 2>any given point, so they could easily shut this whole

885
00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:01.760
<v Speaker 2>thing down if they truly want it too. Now, who's

886
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:06.519
<v Speaker 2>left to do that? I mean, James Egan or Milchick

887
00:51:06.599 --> 00:51:09.599
<v Speaker 2>is still out there too, you know. Milchick is is

888
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:12.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of the guy running things now with his uh

889
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:16.440
<v Speaker 2>what is his verbose vocabulary or whatever it was.

890
00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:25.119
<v Speaker 1>Man, stop using big words, mister Milchik.

891
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, mister mister milkshake.

892
00:51:29.679 --> 00:51:32.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's probably my favorite character, especially after the band

893
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:36.360
<v Speaker 2>part of it all, which that was super weird too,

894
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 2>the scene where they kind of run in. They're celebrating

895
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.000
<v Speaker 2>and then Milchik does his thing where he's like dancing

896
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.239
<v Speaker 2>and so he's breaking it down. Bro, I'm like, but

897
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:48.360
<v Speaker 2>they were also, I don't know if you remember when

898
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Corbel sang that song for them in front of the

899
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:56.119
<v Speaker 2>of the office. She did like an acapella like a song.

900
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:01.039
<v Speaker 2>So they played the band played that song. I don't

901
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:02.639
<v Speaker 2>know if you caught onto that now again, I don't know,

902
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:06.000
<v Speaker 2>let me see here the which song.

903
00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:15.480
<v Speaker 3>It was, to see if it's relevant. Lads severance. Again,

904
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:18.519
<v Speaker 3>there's so many strings to pull out, so.

905
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:23.960
<v Speaker 2>All the songs in several in season two from Who

906
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:30.679
<v Speaker 2>to Ella Fitzgerald, Let's see here episode that was what

907
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:42.360
<v Speaker 2>episode ten right here? So they have Cirrus Serious by

908
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Alan Park, the Alan Parsons Project, I'll Be Seeing You

909
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:48.639
<v Speaker 2>by Billie Holiday, and the Windmills of.

910
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Your Mind by mel to MEI or tourm What is

911
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:59.800
<v Speaker 3>this hum all on?

912
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:06.280
<v Speaker 2>They were also drawing from a What's that one?

913
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Twilight Zone?

914
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:10.199
<v Speaker 2>They were also drawing from a from a twilight Zone

915
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:14.280
<v Speaker 2>episode two I saw and one of these songs was

916
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:19.119
<v Speaker 2>about to was supposedly about like mind control the Windmills

917
00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:19.519
<v Speaker 2>of your Mind?

918
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Is this one?

919
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:26.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't think? So let's see here. What's the song?

920
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I forgot the name of the song that they played?

921
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:35.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was just a wild That was just a

922
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:38.079
<v Speaker 1>wild scene. And the whole time I was like, man, Mark,

923
00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you need to be getting out of here, like quick, dude,

924
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Like you can't be just you just completed the file, bro,

925
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:49.039
<v Speaker 1>you gotta be trying to figure out how to get

926
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:50.280
<v Speaker 1>out of here, quick dude.

927
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:52.039
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

928
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:55.840
<v Speaker 2>So they played a version of the Kier Anthem, the

929
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:58.920
<v Speaker 2>same song that Corbel scenes in MDR season one when

930
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:01.760
<v Speaker 2>the group is back from O and D. The song

931
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:06.360
<v Speaker 2>and a song called Ballad of amber Rose and gonell.

932
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:10.039
<v Speaker 2>I watched the episode once. Yeah, so I think this

933
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Ballad of amber Rose and Gonell is a Twilight Zone

934
00:54:16.719 --> 00:54:27.840
<v Speaker 2>show Amber Amberrose, Egan and Gnell Egan. What somebody said

935
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:36.760
<v Speaker 2>low key the Ballad of Ambrose and Ganell slaps slaps, Yeah,

936
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:41.920
<v Speaker 2>bro again, There's there's so much here. I'm I'm gonna

937
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:44.920
<v Speaker 2>have to watch it again. Bro, There's there's just no way, like,

938
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:49.800
<v Speaker 2>there's no way we could like, there's so many things

939
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:54.159
<v Speaker 2>I miss looking back at these, like theory uh uh

940
00:54:55.679 --> 00:55:05.599
<v Speaker 2>video season three severance theories. So here, oh, look at that,

941
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:09.599
<v Speaker 2>he says. Ben Stiller admits he enjoys wild Severn fan theories.

942
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:12.960
<v Speaker 2>That was twenty four hours ago. There you go, so theories.

943
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:17.199
<v Speaker 2>After watching season two finale, wanted to share some theories

944
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:21.920
<v Speaker 2>about where the season next season could go. Have a

945
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:24.920
<v Speaker 2>different ideas theories if it picks up where season two

946
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:26.880
<v Speaker 2>left off and goes in a new direction. I want

947
00:55:26.880 --> 00:55:30.280
<v Speaker 2>to expect specs. Also love season two finale. It was

948
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:32.159
<v Speaker 2>funny and sad in tragic all at the same time.

949
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:35.400
<v Speaker 2>The best parts of the band Helly hitting Milchick with

950
00:55:35.639 --> 00:55:39.239
<v Speaker 2>a with I think a trombone, the season with the

951
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:42.599
<v Speaker 2>scene where the band was classic Milchick and what you

952
00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:46.199
<v Speaker 2>would expect from what was to be Leuman's finest day.

953
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:50.360
<v Speaker 2>It also added to the suspense of rescuing Gemma. It's

954
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:51.719
<v Speaker 2>a lot, I know, but I would love to hear

955
00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:53.320
<v Speaker 2>what you guys think and where you think the show

956
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:56.000
<v Speaker 2>could go from here. All of this is why I

957
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:59.159
<v Speaker 2>think this show should go on for as long as

958
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:02.400
<v Speaker 2>it can. Hell a great story, whether three, four and

959
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:07.400
<v Speaker 2>five seasons all right, So, I know some people think

960
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:10.039
<v Speaker 2>just three is enough, but it should go on as

961
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:12.000
<v Speaker 2>long as it keeps us engaged.

962
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:13.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about that.

963
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:15.599
<v Speaker 2>We shouldn't be limited to just three seasons. That there's

964
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:18.440
<v Speaker 2>more left to tell us about, and there is a

965
00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:21.639
<v Speaker 2>lot we still don't know about Lumen Irving and jam

966
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:25.199
<v Speaker 2>or Kiir Egan, James and Luhman try to make so

967
00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:28.800
<v Speaker 2>this is one of the theories Jame and Luhman try

968
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.440
<v Speaker 2>to make Helly are more like Kier, or perhaps try

969
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:34.719
<v Speaker 2>to make Helena more like Helly r. I say it's

970
00:56:34.760 --> 00:56:37.639
<v Speaker 2>because when James talks to Helly, he says she has

971
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:40.280
<v Speaker 2>the fire of Kier and that he saw this in

972
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:41.199
<v Speaker 2>Helena when she.

973
00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Was a kid.

974
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:45.960
<v Speaker 2>James seems impressed with how Helly tricked him into thinking

975
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:46.760
<v Speaker 2>she was Helena.

976
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:47.880
<v Speaker 3>So that's what I was.

977
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Saying about him preferring his daughters. He loves his daughters

978
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:58.079
<v Speaker 2>any and not his actual daughter. And now I don't

979
00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:01.719
<v Speaker 2>know that's gonna get like pdf bilish, like I don't

980
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:04.239
<v Speaker 2>know if that's like part of this whole thing. How

981
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:08.480
<v Speaker 2>there's some crazy theories. Maybe perhaps not, because that's kind

982
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:09.800
<v Speaker 2>of wild and that's kind of out there.

983
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:14.320
<v Speaker 1>But what's weird is that heley R as the Any

984
00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:18.280
<v Speaker 1>is in love with Mark. And then it also sees

985
00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:22.559
<v Speaker 1>sounds like and feels like that Helena.

986
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:27.039
<v Speaker 2>Is she really though, bro Like, is Helena truly in

987
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:30.280
<v Speaker 2>love with Mark? Because she did have relations with him

988
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:32.440
<v Speaker 2>on her own behalf.

989
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:34.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I'm saying. Both of them seem like

990
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:43.960
<v Speaker 1>they're both in love with Mark. When whenever she wasn't severed, whenever,

991
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:46.760
<v Speaker 1>like in the first like two episodes or three episodes,

992
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:49.559
<v Speaker 1>when she wasn't severed, whenever she was working at lumin

993
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:51.599
<v Speaker 1>they tried to pull a fast one on everyone, and

994
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:57.599
<v Speaker 1>Irving exposed her. She slept with Mark as her audi

995
00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:02.599
<v Speaker 1>as Helena, meaning that we like, why would she do

996
00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:07.199
<v Speaker 1>that if she didn't have any feelings for him? So

997
00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:09.199
<v Speaker 1>it seems like both of them. And then whenever she

998
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:15.880
<v Speaker 1>met him outside, like as there Audi's at that restaurant,

999
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:18.280
<v Speaker 1>whenever Mark went to Saddan at the restaurant, and then

1000
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:20.719
<v Speaker 1>she saidden at the other table across from him.

1001
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, there's a there's a bunch of people in

1002
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:32.159
<v Speaker 2>this family, the Egan family. There's a bunch of people

1003
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:36.480
<v Speaker 2>in it. I'm looking up Severn's family tree. You have

1004
00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Kier Egan, Deeter Egan, you have Emoji Egan, Ambarrose Egan,

1005
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Myrtle Egan, uh Baird Egan, Gerard Egan, Philip, Pip Egan,

1006
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Leonora Egan. There's a ton of them, Bro James Egan,

1007
00:58:55.079 --> 00:58:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Helen Egan. There's there's a ton like this is this

1008
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.000
<v Speaker 2>is wild. I'm trying to see if I can find

1009
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:01.760
<v Speaker 2>a picture.

1010
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, we don't even know how many other lumen type

1011
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:09.519
<v Speaker 1>buildings that there are in the world. I mean, it

1012
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:12.440
<v Speaker 1>made it sound like that they were wanting that there's

1013
00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:17.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them, that we're just focusing on one

1014
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:19.760
<v Speaker 1>building out of maybe hundreds.

1015
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:24.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Rather, this is getting into Cattle Lake territory with

1016
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:26.639
<v Speaker 2>this family tree.

1017
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:28.360
<v Speaker 3>All right, So.

1018
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Here's sister, is their brother, and their brother's cousin, and

1019
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:35.559
<v Speaker 1>then their stepsister has a wife with a kid that

1020
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:36.719
<v Speaker 1>is actually their father.

1021
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:44.159
<v Speaker 2>So check this out. We have all these egans. Is

1022
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:49.079
<v Speaker 2>this the board? Is this the consciousness of these egans

1023
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:52.079
<v Speaker 2>that they're tapping into when they talk to the board?

1024
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:57.119
<v Speaker 2>Right with Natalie because her last name is redacted, right,

1025
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:00.800
<v Speaker 2>So what yea is she He's the one that kind

1026
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:06.840
<v Speaker 2>of sort of transmits the board to them, right, She's

1027
01:00:06.840 --> 01:00:09.159
<v Speaker 2>like this priestess that's able to tap into the board

1028
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and she's like they've logged off now or whatever it is, like,

1029
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:13.559
<v Speaker 2>so it's super weird.

1030
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:15.159
<v Speaker 1>They have ended the call.

1031
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have ended the call, right, So another thing,

1032
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:23.320
<v Speaker 2>perhaps lumin activates the OTC for Helly on the outside

1033
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:27.199
<v Speaker 2>world so James can groom her for CEO or make

1034
01:00:27.239 --> 01:00:30.280
<v Speaker 2>her more cure like. If not one above, we at

1035
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:33.639
<v Speaker 2>least need to learn more about James Egan's conversation with

1036
01:00:33.719 --> 01:00:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Helly and what it meant and why it's important in

1037
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:37.920
<v Speaker 2>the next season. Yeah, we're probably gonna get more background

1038
01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:40.559
<v Speaker 2>on this. We see the indies in the first episode

1039
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:43.360
<v Speaker 2>or two refusing to leave the seventh floor as the

1040
01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:47.119
<v Speaker 2>macro data's uprising spreads to other departments. Helena will get

1041
01:00:47.159 --> 01:00:50.320
<v Speaker 2>pregnant as a resort as a result of the ort bow,

1042
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:55.400
<v Speaker 2>which yet I wasn't she sick in one of the episodes?

1043
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:57.639
<v Speaker 2>Didn't she feel weird in one of the episodes? Or

1044
01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:02.440
<v Speaker 2>was that after she had learned that they had relations?

1045
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:08.119
<v Speaker 1>That was after she found out that her audi had

1046
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:11.440
<v Speaker 1>had sexual relations with Mark, and then she didn't get

1047
01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:14.679
<v Speaker 1>their experiences, so then they had they had.

1048
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:17.559
<v Speaker 2>To pitch the tent. Yeah, okay, all right? Because I

1049
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:19.760
<v Speaker 2>thought she was like throwing up on one season.

1050
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Maybe not.

1051
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:22.760
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was like morning sickness or something, right,

1052
01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:25.960
<v Speaker 2>again hinting at that she might be pregnant, Which what

1053
01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:26.719
<v Speaker 2>happens then?

1054
01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:28.599
<v Speaker 3>Like? Whose kid? Is that? Really?

1055
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Right?

1056
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.719
<v Speaker 2>If it was created by and this is where you

1057
01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:40.880
<v Speaker 2>get into different almost like a liminal baby because it

1058
01:01:40.920 --> 01:01:44.519
<v Speaker 2>was created within any and an audi, So what does

1059
01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:46.320
<v Speaker 2>that make the kid? You get what I'm saying, because

1060
01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:50.920
<v Speaker 2>obviously there are still people, but their consciousness wasn't all there.

1061
01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:54.599
<v Speaker 2>So is that like a severed baby? You know what

1062
01:01:54.639 --> 01:01:57.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying? Like, well, the baby have two consciousnesses? Or

1063
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:04.199
<v Speaker 2>like what is the plural for consciousness? Lural form of consciousness?

1064
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Am I saying it? Correctly. Yeah, consciousness is Yeah, that's weird.

1065
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Gemma will try to rescue Mark from the severed floor.

1066
01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:18.760
<v Speaker 2>That's what I talked about earlier. We will find out

1067
01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:21.480
<v Speaker 2>that while Cold Harbor failed, when Gemma's any trusted Mark,

1068
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:23.880
<v Speaker 2>it was only a setback and gives them an opportunity

1069
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:26.920
<v Speaker 2>to progress towards whatever their ultimate goal is. We will

1070
01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:30.800
<v Speaker 2>see what Revolving is helen to become CEO, maybe in

1071
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:34.239
<v Speaker 2>a twist Helly after seeing James talk with her not

1072
01:02:34.440 --> 01:02:38.239
<v Speaker 2>as just as a normal any we finally see what

1073
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:41.039
<v Speaker 2>the board is. My guess it is that it's recent

1074
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:42.559
<v Speaker 2>past CEOs consciousness.

1075
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:44.320
<v Speaker 3>There you go, dude, I think so too.

1076
01:02:46.159 --> 01:02:49.719
<v Speaker 2>We see Irving come back to join Devin, Mark and

1077
01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Gemma as they try to expose Lumin and get Mark back.

1078
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That kind of seems weird because I

1079
01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:00.880
<v Speaker 1>think that they just gave Irving a good accent. I

1080
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:03.599
<v Speaker 1>think they just toss this character out.

1081
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Have I been calling him?

1082
01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Irving is the guy that's in love with Chris Kin? Yeah?

1083
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Dylan is Okay, I was getting Devin and

1084
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:19.840
<v Speaker 2>Dylan mixed up.

1085
01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Dylan, Dylan is the one that his wife

1086
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:27.239
<v Speaker 1>keeps coming back to the Lumen and his wife is

1087
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:30.960
<v Speaker 1>catching feelings for his any and not liking his Audi.

1088
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:33.719
<v Speaker 1>That was so weird. Dude was so weird. And then

1089
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:36.159
<v Speaker 1>he got so salty with her whenever she told him

1090
01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:39.719
<v Speaker 1>that he had she had made out with his any.

1091
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we learned more about Irving, perhaps that he was

1092
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:47.920
<v Speaker 2>on the testing for himself. At one point, we learned

1093
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:50.239
<v Speaker 2>who Irving was talking to on the phone trying to

1094
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:52.800
<v Speaker 2>bring down Lumen, perhaps someone on the inside.

1095
01:03:53.239 --> 01:03:55.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember that part.

1096
01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:58.360
<v Speaker 2>We learn more about Lumen's ultimate goal or endgame, perhaps

1097
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:00.400
<v Speaker 2>to live forever, and the chips are a way to

1098
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:00.880
<v Speaker 2>achieve that.

1099
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:01.639
<v Speaker 3>I think so too.

1100
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:06.320
<v Speaker 2>This is all about transhumanism and achieving this quantum immortality,

1101
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:09.679
<v Speaker 2>if you will. Cobell might turn on Mark and Devin.

1102
01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:11.920
<v Speaker 2>She only joined them because she's angry at Luman for

1103
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.159
<v Speaker 2>firing her and not getting credit for designing.

1104
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:17.199
<v Speaker 3>Did she kiss her brother, Dude, By the way.

1105
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:23.639
<v Speaker 1>She did make out with that guy, But I'm not

1106
01:04:23.679 --> 01:04:25.440
<v Speaker 1>sure if that was was that her brother.

1107
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:29.239
<v Speaker 3>Was that her brother, was that her ex husband?

1108
01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:32.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I kind of thought it was her

1109
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:35.000
<v Speaker 1>brother in the in the beginning of it, and then

1110
01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:39.679
<v Speaker 1>whenever they made out. I don't know, it might have been.

1111
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:42.280
<v Speaker 3>You.

1112
01:04:42.559 --> 01:04:46.159
<v Speaker 1>We're getting some Game of Thrones ask stuff going on here.

1113
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Let's see. I don't know if it was. I know

1114
01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:53.559
<v Speaker 3>he was. I know he was a Cobell for sure,

1115
01:04:53.960 --> 01:04:55.199
<v Speaker 3>because she says his name.

1116
01:04:56.360 --> 01:05:00.239
<v Speaker 1>But if they were like good friends, or if they

1117
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:03.719
<v Speaker 1>both were at the weird orphanage place together, or if

1118
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:04.920
<v Speaker 1>they were a family.

1119
01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Or who did Cobel kiss?

1120
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:14.760
<v Speaker 2>So Miss Cobell shares a kiss with Harmony's father, Hampton

1121
01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:20.440
<v Speaker 2>after they both have ether together. Harmony's father. Who the

1122
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:23.480
<v Speaker 2>hell's Harmony was that that girl, the one at the

1123
01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:24.199
<v Speaker 2>bottom floor.

1124
01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:28.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know who Harmony is.

1125
01:05:29.519 --> 01:05:31.039
<v Speaker 2>It might be the lady that she was talking about

1126
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:41.880
<v Speaker 2>that killed her mom. So Harmony Cobell, I'm so confused

1127
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:50.280
<v Speaker 2>right now, Miss Cobell shares a kiss with Harmony's brother Hampton.

1128
01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Who the hell is Hampton Cobell right because she says

1129
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:59.880
<v Speaker 2>his name. Hampton is a childhood friend of Harmony Cobell. Okay,

1130
01:05:59.920 --> 01:06:01.840
<v Speaker 2>so I was a friend. It wasn't her brother.

1131
01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:05.760
<v Speaker 1>They kind of made it seem like that it was

1132
01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:07.559
<v Speaker 1>her brother though a little.

1133
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Bit all right.

1134
01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:12.320
<v Speaker 2>So as a child Hampton worked at the Ether factory

1135
01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:16.440
<v Speaker 2>owned and operated by Lumin Industries, alongside his friend Harmony Cobel.

1136
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.639
<v Speaker 2>There they both became addicted to ether. When they grew up,

1137
01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Harmony left and began working for Lumen Severed Floor. When

1138
01:06:22.719 --> 01:06:26.719
<v Speaker 2>she returned to Salt's Neck, Hampton initially refused to help her,

1139
01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:29.360
<v Speaker 2>but ultimately decided to drive her to her aunt's.

1140
01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:30.719
<v Speaker 3>House at her request.

1141
01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:33.119
<v Speaker 2>He waited outside for her for several hours before going

1142
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:35.960
<v Speaker 2>inside to get her. He brought ether and they got

1143
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:38.320
<v Speaker 2>high together, and then he helped her out of the

1144
01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:41.559
<v Speaker 2>storm shelter on the property where she found what she

1145
01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:44.280
<v Speaker 2>was looking for. She was confronting her aunt when Hampton

1146
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:47.599
<v Speaker 2>called her to tell her someone was coming.

1147
01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:52.440
<v Speaker 3>He let her take the truck to help her escape.

1148
01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:54.519
<v Speaker 3>So they were close friends. I thought it was her brother,

1149
01:06:54.599 --> 01:07:00.519
<v Speaker 3>but I was like, what is happening here? So Coba

1150
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:01.320
<v Speaker 3>Mike turn on them.

1151
01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:04.039
<v Speaker 2>We see a flashback and learn how PD and or

1152
01:07:04.079 --> 01:07:07.239
<v Speaker 2>Irving both new about the testing floor. Like a couple

1153
01:07:07.239 --> 01:07:09.559
<v Speaker 2>others have said, we see Mark continuing to have to

1154
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:13.360
<v Speaker 2>make choices that pin his Audi against his any. Helena

1155
01:07:13.440 --> 01:07:16.039
<v Speaker 2>continues to try to get with Mark, whether OUTI or any.

1156
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:19.599
<v Speaker 2>Helena starts to betray her father James Eagan as he

1157
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:20.760
<v Speaker 2>becomes more like Helly.

1158
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:22.280
<v Speaker 3>She already.

1159
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Seems to be having somewhat of an arc as she

1160
01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:29.320
<v Speaker 2>when she's with Mark at the Ortbow and apologizes for

1161
01:07:29.400 --> 01:07:32.280
<v Speaker 2>distracting him finding his wife. She doesn't make a distinction

1162
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:35.639
<v Speaker 2>between Indian audi. As the stakes rise, we learn about

1163
01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:39.199
<v Speaker 2>grund debates about whether to outlaw or to keep severance

1164
01:07:39.639 --> 01:07:42.840
<v Speaker 2>w This is in Kier, the state or Congress. Along

1165
01:07:42.880 --> 01:07:47.119
<v Speaker 2>with nineteen maybe, we see Helena a congressional hearing testifying

1166
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:50.960
<v Speaker 2>against Mark and Gemma about what they've experienced. We see

1167
01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:53.840
<v Speaker 2>backstory on James Eagan or even Ker himself, and see

1168
01:07:53.880 --> 01:07:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Helena as a kid being groomed to be CEO of Lumen,

1169
01:07:57.079 --> 01:08:00.599
<v Speaker 2>especially after the animatronic Kere saying his grand agenda is

1170
01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:04.360
<v Speaker 2>closer to being so he does say this, that the

1171
01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:06.320
<v Speaker 2>agenda is closer to being fulfilled.

1172
01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:08.880
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. Where the hell is all this going?

1173
01:08:12.360 --> 01:08:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, it seems like from my theory, and I mentioned

1174
01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:22.880
<v Speaker 1>this on the last episode of The Schizospiracy Hour, that

1175
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:26.039
<v Speaker 1>it seems like they just want to breed people to

1176
01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:29.680
<v Speaker 1>work here like permanently so they don't have to deal

1177
01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:32.079
<v Speaker 1>with these people anymore. Like they don't have to deal

1178
01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:34.279
<v Speaker 1>with severing these people. They don't have to deal with

1179
01:08:34.399 --> 01:08:38.119
<v Speaker 1>innies and autis. They just have full time in ease

1180
01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that are essentially robots that have no emotions and they

1181
01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:47.239
<v Speaker 1>work there forever. I mean, that seems like the end

1182
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:50.880
<v Speaker 1>goal and is like what they want. It's kind of

1183
01:08:50.920 --> 01:08:55.680
<v Speaker 1>like the version of the Ananaki story right where the

1184
01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Anonachi come down. They you know, create this version of

1185
01:08:59.560 --> 01:09:02.600
<v Speaker 1>like work her bees, which is in turn us to

1186
01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:06.920
<v Speaker 1>mine all this gold and mine all this stuff for them,

1187
01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:11.079
<v Speaker 1>for their whatever. It's That's what it seems like and

1188
01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:13.680
<v Speaker 1>like what they're trying to accomplish. And I think that

1189
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:17.279
<v Speaker 1>that is the goal. Now whether they actually it doesn't

1190
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:19.840
<v Speaker 1>seem like they're going to complete that because of this

1191
01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:23.239
<v Speaker 1>hiccup that they're having with Mark right now. So but

1192
01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:28.359
<v Speaker 1>that seems like what they're what the whole end goal is,

1193
01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:32.319
<v Speaker 1>and it might have been because of the goat that

1194
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:37.359
<v Speaker 1>didn't get sacrificed. Is the reason, is the reason why

1195
01:09:37.920 --> 01:09:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the rest of her consciousness is didn't get separated from her.

1196
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:47.279
<v Speaker 1>So that's why it couldn't be complete. That's why she

1197
01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:53.479
<v Speaker 1>couldn't permanently be you know, perma burnt in that new

1198
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:56.439
<v Speaker 1>section of consciousness, so she wouldn't be like that forever

1199
01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:59.680
<v Speaker 1>because the goat didn't get sacrificed, So all the consciousness

1200
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:02.319
<v Speaker 1>is that had been split that they had been working

1201
01:10:02.359 --> 01:10:06.640
<v Speaker 1>on for years stayed in there because the way to

1202
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:09.720
<v Speaker 1>get rid of all those was to kill the goat.

1203
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:15.199
<v Speaker 1>So they would essentially have all of those split consciousnesses

1204
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:18.199
<v Speaker 1>that were inside of her inside of the goat. So

1205
01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:20.199
<v Speaker 1>whenever they killed the goat, that would get rid of

1206
01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:22.439
<v Speaker 1>all those and then she would permanently be like that

1207
01:10:22.560 --> 01:10:27.399
<v Speaker 1>emotionless entity that was taking apart the crip.

1208
01:10:28.760 --> 01:10:31.720
<v Speaker 2>And check this out, bro, Queen bees use mind control

1209
01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:35.720
<v Speaker 2>to keep young workers online. A queen bee needs to

1210
01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:38.319
<v Speaker 2>keep her subjects common quiet, and she does this so

1211
01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:43.680
<v Speaker 2>by seek secreting a scent that prevents worker bees from learning.

1212
01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:46.720
<v Speaker 2>According to you, this is two thousand and seven, Bro.

1213
01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:52.039
<v Speaker 2>What that's wild?

1214
01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:52.439
<v Speaker 3>Bro?

1215
01:10:53.640 --> 01:10:56.319
<v Speaker 2>The study published This is from two thousand and seven.

1216
01:10:56.840 --> 01:11:00.000
<v Speaker 2>The study published this week in the journal Science found

1217
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:04.680
<v Speaker 2>that a component in the queen's pheromone inhibits inhibits the

1218
01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:10.439
<v Speaker 2>sterile worker bee's ability to learn from negative experiences. That's wild,

1219
01:11:10.439 --> 01:11:14.039
<v Speaker 2>and that kind of sort of ties into this hole, right,

1220
01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:19.079
<v Speaker 2>the beehive, the Masonic symbolism, this whole thing where the

1221
01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:23.760
<v Speaker 2>outside real person whatever that is, doesn't really know what's

1222
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:26.239
<v Speaker 2>going on on the inside, so they're not learning from

1223
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:31.079
<v Speaker 2>the negative experiences of like the uprising and everything else.

1224
01:11:31.119 --> 01:11:33.720
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, hey, you hurt your hand. Yeah, they

1225
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:35.399
<v Speaker 2>told me I fell off a cliff or something, right,

1226
01:11:35.479 --> 01:11:37.800
<v Speaker 2>like I remember when he had hurt his back or

1227
01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:42.479
<v Speaker 2>something or other. So again they're kind of hinting at

1228
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:46.680
<v Speaker 2>this sort of a b thing. So by preventing aversive learning,

1229
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:49.600
<v Speaker 2>the queen ensures that her youngest offspring will stay in

1230
01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the hive and not use their things even if something

1231
01:11:52.760 --> 01:11:56.840
<v Speaker 2>unpleasant occurs. The active scent element is very similar to

1232
01:11:57.479 --> 01:12:00.520
<v Speaker 2>the brain compound dopamine, which is involved in learning and

1233
01:12:00.560 --> 01:12:04.239
<v Speaker 2>memory and humans as well as I wonder, dude, if

1234
01:12:04.399 --> 01:12:08.520
<v Speaker 2>within the hive these bees are under this mind control

1235
01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:12.239
<v Speaker 2>and then outside of the hive they're not, that'd be

1236
01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:15.199
<v Speaker 2>very interesting because the bees are severed.

1237
01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:15.439
<v Speaker 3>Bro.

1238
01:12:16.079 --> 01:12:20.039
<v Speaker 2>The bees are severed inside the hive, And that's why

1239
01:12:20.119 --> 01:12:25.359
<v Speaker 2>the Freemasons use the hive symbolism, not the bees, right,

1240
01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:31.319
<v Speaker 2>but with the Wakerman and everything. And then outside the hive.

1241
01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:34.640
<v Speaker 2>When they're not next to the queen, they're a different

1242
01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:37.640
<v Speaker 2>They're the audi version of like, Hey, I just got

1243
01:12:37.640 --> 01:12:39.600
<v Speaker 2>to go collect pollen and do all this other stuff.

1244
01:12:39.640 --> 01:12:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Then I come back and I'm in I'm a drone again,

1245
01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, Like.

1246
01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:44.439
<v Speaker 3>That's bro.

1247
01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Evers learning is when the animal makes an association between

1248
01:12:48.720 --> 01:12:53.600
<v Speaker 2>a particular odor and a nasty experience. A senior study author,

1249
01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Alison Mercer, a neurobiologist at the University of Otago and

1250
01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:03.319
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand, ought to go The nasty experience in the

1251
01:13:03.319 --> 01:13:07.560
<v Speaker 2>study was a mild electric shock accompanied by a particular smell.

1252
01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:11.479
<v Speaker 2>Honey Bees separated from the queen extend their stings when

1253
01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:14.720
<v Speaker 2>they detected the odor, but young honey bees exposed to

1254
01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:17.720
<v Speaker 2>the queen's fermone did not respond to the smell. Bro

1255
01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Outside the hive, they're not severed inside, They're severed while

1256
01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:26.319
<v Speaker 2>they're in contact with that queen's fermone. The young bees

1257
01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:30.439
<v Speaker 2>that groom the queen are exposed to very high levels

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01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:34.600
<v Speaker 2>of her pheromone. Older bees, which forge for food outside

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01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:38.239
<v Speaker 2>the hive are capable of averse learning, Otherwise they would

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01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:40.840
<v Speaker 2>have a little chance for survival.

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01:13:41.760 --> 01:13:41.960
<v Speaker 3>There.

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01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:44.840
<v Speaker 2>It is, dude, like you got into the real world.

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01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:48.399
<v Speaker 2>You take care of your any by eating, resting, Right,

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01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:50.479
<v Speaker 2>That was the whole thing. With the end, He's like, hey,

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01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:53.720
<v Speaker 2>how do you guys distinguish between a weekend and the

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01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:56.920
<v Speaker 2>next day. We just show up here again, and he's like, no,

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01:13:57.039 --> 01:13:59.399
<v Speaker 2>you'll learn the effects of when you get a good

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01:13:59.479 --> 01:13:59.880
<v Speaker 2>night's sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Is you know something along those lines.

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01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:04.399
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you'll learn to appreciate the effects of sleep

1271
01:14:04.840 --> 01:14:08.880
<v Speaker 2>because they never slept, and then when they finally do sleep,

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01:14:09.239 --> 01:14:12.359
<v Speaker 2>we see that they dream. Remember with Irving and his

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01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:15.239
<v Speaker 2>weird dream that he had with the with one of

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01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:19.279
<v Speaker 2>the Woes or whatever it was, that he saw the lady,

1275
01:14:19.399 --> 01:14:23.439
<v Speaker 2>the short lady. He had like some weird, trippy ass dream.

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01:14:24.439 --> 01:14:28.840
<v Speaker 2>So that the homunculous dude dream writer, What does that mean?

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01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I say, not the bees.

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01:14:41.439 --> 01:14:41.640
<v Speaker 2>Roh.

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01:14:42.279 --> 01:14:47.600
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy, man. I never never knew about that.

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01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:51.119
<v Speaker 2>And that's from two thousand and seven, so imagine how

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01:14:51.159 --> 01:14:53.239
<v Speaker 2>far the study is probably gone.

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01:14:53.319 --> 01:14:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Right, I didn't know that about bees. I mean, I

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01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:59.880
<v Speaker 1>knew that the queen bee had everything to do with

1284
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:02.840
<v Speaker 1>like their behavior, but I didn't know that that was

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01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:07.039
<v Speaker 1>only inside of the hive. So this does that makes sense?

1286
01:15:07.079 --> 01:15:11.119
<v Speaker 1>So the closer the bees to the queen bee. The

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01:15:11.159 --> 01:15:14.439
<v Speaker 1>more that it's controlled, the further that it is a way.

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01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:20.359
<v Speaker 3>Fringe research suggests that the insects that are essential to

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01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:28.359
<v Speaker 3>agriculture have emotions, dreams, and even PTSD they're talking about

1290
01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:29.680
<v Speaker 3>probably talking about.

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01:15:29.479 --> 01:15:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Bees ptsdbs having dreams and everything.

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01:15:33.640 --> 01:15:38.479
<v Speaker 3>Bro. So Nick Cage was right, not the bees, not

1293
01:15:38.680 --> 01:15:45.319
<v Speaker 3>that bees anyways, Bro, this is uh, this goes deep. Man.

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01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:49.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm excited for season three.

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01:15:49.279 --> 01:15:52.439
<v Speaker 2>To what I'm not liking is I hate when I

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01:15:52.479 --> 01:15:54.560
<v Speaker 2>start a new show that has like little bits of

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01:15:54.640 --> 01:15:58.720
<v Speaker 2>episodes that are like recent, because then I have to

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01:15:58.760 --> 01:16:00.479
<v Speaker 2>wait for the next season come out.

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01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, at least we didn't have to wait for a

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01:16:03.680 --> 01:16:07.319
<v Speaker 1>season two because some people have been waiting three years

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01:16:07.359 --> 01:16:08.039
<v Speaker 1>for this season.

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01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, the writers strike or whatever it was contributed to

1303
01:16:12.680 --> 01:16:17.239
<v Speaker 2>it being delayed, which we're not gonna hopefully not have that.

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01:16:17.960 --> 01:16:20.039
<v Speaker 2>But season three severance.

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01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Ben Stiller said that it wasn't going to be

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01:16:24.159 --> 01:16:26.079
<v Speaker 1>another three years, so hopefully it'll be.

1307
01:16:27.840 --> 01:16:31.000
<v Speaker 2>So this is three days ago seven season three release

1308
01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:35.279
<v Speaker 2>date speculation. So let's see here what it says.

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01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:38.800
<v Speaker 1>It'll be two years like every other standard.

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01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that's the lame, dude. I can't wait three years.

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01:16:44.159 --> 01:16:45.760
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna have to wait three years to talk about

1312
01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:46.119
<v Speaker 2>this again.

1313
01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:50.439
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to rewatch the whole thing again.

1314
01:16:51.399 --> 01:16:55.520
<v Speaker 2>Hey, they might surprise us and be like, hey, you know,

1315
01:16:55.920 --> 01:17:00.039
<v Speaker 2>next year or whatever. We we already recorded it and

1316
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:02.880
<v Speaker 2>they like drop it, right. I mean that could also be.

1317
01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:07.119
<v Speaker 2>That'd be dope if they maybe like the same time

1318
01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:08.159
<v Speaker 2>next year, dropped it.

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01:17:09.479 --> 01:17:13.479
<v Speaker 1>That's what happened to me with Yellow Jackets. I watched

1320
01:17:13.479 --> 01:17:16.439
<v Speaker 1>the id binge the first two seasons of Yellow Jackets,

1321
01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:19.479
<v Speaker 1>and then the third season just came out like, I

1322
01:17:19.479 --> 01:17:22.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know, a month ago, and I couldn't remember anything

1323
01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:23.399
<v Speaker 1>about it.

1324
01:17:25.359 --> 01:17:27.960
<v Speaker 2>We shot the show, so it took us a little

1325
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:32.760
<v Speaker 2>bit to regroup because there was the sag Aftra and

1326
01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:36.319
<v Speaker 2>Riders Guild of America strikes, so that was delayed because

1327
01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:38.319
<v Speaker 2>of that. And then it says here it took us

1328
01:17:38.319 --> 01:17:40.960
<v Speaker 2>a little bit to regroup in the show. We shot

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01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:43.600
<v Speaker 2>for one hundred and eighty six days on season two.

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01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Editing takes a while, but thank goodness, the audience was

1331
01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:48.840
<v Speaker 2>there when we came back. The challenge was to get

1332
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:51.479
<v Speaker 2>people who hadn't seen the show to watch the first season,

1333
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:54.039
<v Speaker 2>so Apple did a really good job getting the word

1334
01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:56.399
<v Speaker 2>out and we did as much press as we could. Also,

1335
01:17:56.479 --> 01:17:59.720
<v Speaker 2>three years later, Apple TV is actually a different it's

1336
01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:02.760
<v Speaker 2>a different situation there now because they have more viewers.

1337
01:18:03.640 --> 01:18:06.159
<v Speaker 2>When we started out, we were one of the first shows.

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01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:09.199
<v Speaker 2>So one hundred and eighty six days. That's like essentially

1339
01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:20.159
<v Speaker 2>that's almost five six months a half a year, So

1340
01:18:20.279 --> 01:18:23.079
<v Speaker 2>half a year, let's say if they start now, that's

1341
01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the editing.

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01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah a year, bro, a year to two years, damn

1343
01:18:26.039 --> 01:18:26.640
<v Speaker 3>we get wrecked.

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01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be around two years. That's the

1345
01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:35.000
<v Speaker 1>standard for all of the TV shows, which I've never

1346
01:18:35.079 --> 01:18:37.479
<v Speaker 1>understood why it takes that long. They need to shorten

1347
01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:39.720
<v Speaker 1>that time up. I remember back in the day when

1348
01:18:39.760 --> 01:18:43.079
<v Speaker 1>it was every year. Every year was the next season

1349
01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:44.920
<v Speaker 1>of a show. But it's not like that anymore.

1350
01:18:45.399 --> 01:18:47.720
<v Speaker 3>So I guess we'll see you guys in another year now.

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01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Probably two years. Good, two years, two years and we'll

1352
01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:55.600
<v Speaker 1>be talking about season three or sevens.

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01:18:57.800 --> 01:19:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, bro, I mean again, dude, you want to add

1354
01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:05.439
<v Speaker 2>anything else, I think that just watch the show people.

1355
01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:09.359
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting, but watch it, like, give your attention to it,

1356
01:19:09.399 --> 01:19:12.319
<v Speaker 2>because if not, you're gonna struggle. Because I struggled with

1357
01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:13.920
<v Speaker 2>some other things. I'm like, what the hell is that?

1358
01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I had to replay some parts over because I either

1359
01:19:16.720 --> 01:19:19.560
<v Speaker 2>wasn't paying attention when was playing or whatever to really

1360
01:19:19.600 --> 01:19:22.319
<v Speaker 2>capture it. And I missed a ton of stuff. And

1361
01:19:22.359 --> 01:19:24.199
<v Speaker 2>there's a ton of stuff in season one I missed

1362
01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:26.279
<v Speaker 2>because again I know it is going to play a

1363
01:19:26.359 --> 01:19:30.399
<v Speaker 2>role later on. So pay attention.

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01:19:31.079 --> 01:19:31.800
<v Speaker 3>It's important.

1365
01:19:32.600 --> 01:19:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Pay attention. You can binge all of the first season

1366
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:38.319
<v Speaker 1>and the second season together. You don't have to wait,

1367
01:19:38.359 --> 01:19:40.760
<v Speaker 1>but then you got to, unfortunately wait for the third season,

1368
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:43.520
<v Speaker 1>like we're gonna have to wait. But yeah, just if

1369
01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:47.479
<v Speaker 1>you get a chance, throw it on. Pay attention. Watch

1370
01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:51.199
<v Speaker 1>every episode and see what you guys think. And if

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01:19:51.199 --> 01:19:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you've already watched, to leave a comment down below and

1372
01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:56.239
<v Speaker 1>let us know what you thought of the series.

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01:19:56.880 --> 01:19:58.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was fun.

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01:19:58.640 --> 01:19:59.680
<v Speaker 1>One. Where can people find you?

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01:19:59.720 --> 01:20:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Brother www dot t j o JP dot com, YouTube

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01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:10.479
<v Speaker 2>dot com, slash at t j o JP, Patreon dot com,

1377
01:20:10.479 --> 01:20:14.039
<v Speaker 2>slash the one on one podcast, all that good stuff.

1378
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:16.520
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, my website find all my stuff on there.

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01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Cool, thank you, And if you're listening to this on

1380
01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:21.720
<v Speaker 1>one show, you can find me at Raised by Giants

1381
01:20:21.720 --> 01:20:25.439
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube and an all podcast platforms. All right, guys,

1382
01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the next show with One will be next month for

1383
01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:36.399
<v Speaker 1>the MAGA Conspiracy Hour Schizospiracy number three, so be looking

1384
01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:38.600
<v Speaker 1>forward to that one. All right, see you guys next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye bye,