1 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,199 Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season three, 2 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:17,160 episode forty two of Clips in Dip. We got the 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,320 full crew back. We have myself, Chuck Mockler, Adam Oslin, 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,320 and William Updike here to talk all things Clippers. We're 5 00:00:24,359 --> 00:00:27,440 talking going to and two and the four and five, 6 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,399 which I was pretty happy with. We're gonna talk some 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,960 trade ideas, and then the Clippers have a ton of 8 00:00:32,039 --> 00:00:34,079 games coming up that we're going to try and make 9 00:00:34,119 --> 00:00:37,359 some sense of. If you watch our last episode, thank you. 10 00:00:37,399 --> 00:00:41,320 That was a Lakers preview. Pretty much nailed everything in 11 00:00:41,359 --> 00:00:43,560 there from Will and Adam's point of view, So great 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,799 job on that, guys. But if you want to watch 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,439 our stuff as opposed to listen to it, find us 14 00:00:48,439 --> 00:00:52,560 at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast. Will Adam, 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,159 how the hell are you guys doing on this very 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,439 sunny Friday evening in Los Angeles? 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,759 Speaker 2: Ready for the week to be over? Yeah? I mean, 18 00:01:00,759 --> 00:01:03,640 I bet the Clippers are too. Four and five absolutely brutal, 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,040 and it's not over yet. The schedule is is unrelenting. 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,599 But hey, maybe we'll get an All Star not out 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,000 all of this. Who knows. 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: I like that you said unrelenting and yeah, Norm was 23 00:01:14,599 --> 00:01:17,519 on ESPN today which was awesome. Adam, do you want 24 00:01:17,519 --> 00:01:20,959 to break the news about what's happening later today? 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,599 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'm not ready. I can't get there yet. 26 00:01:25,879 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: All right, fair Adam, how are you doing? You've been 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,519 busy with the four and five? 28 00:01:30,599 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did ask the lot Murray pregame Yester. Now, 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,719 I was like, do you know what day it is? 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,280 Because it's one of those type of weeks. But I said, 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,799 if they go two and two with a win over 32 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:43,079 the Lakers, that is successful. And even though the second 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,519 half of the game last night was a little bit 34 00:01:44,599 --> 00:01:47,760 disappointing with the effort, they still pull it off. So 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,400 I think they're in a good spot. 36 00:01:49,799 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the four and five. Will and I were talked 37 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,840 about this last night. It was at home at least, 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,879 which is nice. Right, there was no travel thrown. I'm 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,519 not trying to justify the four and five here, but thanks. 40 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:01,239 Speaker 3: To the hook up at them. 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, the good part they beat the Lakers. Kawhi looked awesome, 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,479 he dunk Zoo looked good like that. I think you're right. 43 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:15,400 Two and two with the win over Lakers is great. 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,319 But that game against the Celtics was one of the 45 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,560 more fun losses I think any of us will have 46 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:25,199 ever watched. 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: That would have been one of the best regular season 48 00:02:30,159 --> 00:02:33,759 wins of the Tyleru era. And that's saying something because 49 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,240 they've had a thirty five point come back, second biggest 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,520 in NBA history. That would have been an all timer. 51 00:02:40,039 --> 00:02:42,759 Speaker 2: The drubby though of the Celtics by the Lakers, Does 52 00:02:42,759 --> 00:02:45,800 that take anything away from that? Uh? Near wind. I'm 53 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,280 gonna call it a near wind. Could call it near 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,319 loss as well, but it's a It's a near win 55 00:02:51,439 --> 00:02:53,560 in my book. Does that take anything away from that? 56 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: For either of you? 57 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: Fellas here, you still still. 58 00:02:56,199 --> 00:02:59,199 Speaker 3: No because that happened because the Clippers pushed him to 59 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,400 the break the night before and made him really did 60 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:05,400 I was so annoyed. I knew the Lakers were going 61 00:03:05,439 --> 00:03:07,319 to beat him last night. I'm like, okay, this was 62 00:03:07,439 --> 00:03:09,599 warm out. They soften him up, and now the Lakers 63 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,199 get to beat him. 64 00:03:10,199 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 2: Tatum played one like forty three minutes. 65 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,759 Speaker 1: It was incredible. If you missed that game and you're 66 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,400 able to replay it, just watch, maybe just watch the 67 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,919 fourth quarter. But the starting five of Kevin Porter, junior 68 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,000 Terrence Man a mere coffee, Derek Jones Junior, and Mo Bamba. 69 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,599 Speaker 2: The future is now. 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,199 Speaker 1: The future is now, everybody. I had some thoughts about 71 00:03:33,199 --> 00:03:37,919 this Celtics game. I want to fire off the craziest 72 00:03:37,919 --> 00:03:40,319 one first, and I know there's some people on Twitter 73 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:44,199 who agree with me on this. Kobe Brown, Yes, he's 74 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,400 a little old for for where he's at. Well doesn't 75 00:03:47,439 --> 00:03:52,159 left where I'm going with this. Um, he just knows 76 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:55,639 how to play basketball. I don't know. Yes, he does 77 00:03:55,719 --> 00:03:58,759 eleven boards. He was good in that game against the Celtics. 78 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,719 Speaker 2: He didn't shoot what the rest of the sample size? 79 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,919 Speaker 1: Very not elite, I'll say, not elite is what I'm 80 00:04:05,919 --> 00:04:06,400 going to say. 81 00:04:08,439 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: I think there's rotation ready, though, is what you're not? 82 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,759 Speaker 1: Rotation ready? I just think I wish he wasn't twenty 83 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,360 five because there's some bench potential there to be an 84 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:18,639 actual bench player in the NBA, which is hard to 85 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:21,040 do and what the Clippers need. And he has size 86 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,120 I put I believe I put in here, Diet great value, 87 00:04:24,199 --> 00:04:27,879 Shasta Light, malto Mates, Draymond Green. If you had to 88 00:04:27,879 --> 00:04:31,000 have knockoff Cereal, you know what malto Mat says. Ummm, 89 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,360 that's how I feel. About it. I don't know. I'm 90 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,800 not saying give him any minutes. I just you know, 91 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,800 I guess I wish it would have worked out differently, because, 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,839 like I said, he's twenty five and only getting time 93 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,759 when six rotation guys are out. 94 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,519 Speaker 3: Hey, if the difference is if he plays and Mobama 95 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,800 plays less, who isn't okay with that? Although I did 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,199 think mo was sauld last night, But if Kobe Brown 97 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,560 was getting some backup centerment minutes as we approached the 98 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,040 trade deadline, I'd be interested in that, just to see 99 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:07,439 what exactly they're dealing with, and maybe there doesn't need 100 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,360 to be as much of a sense of urgency. I 101 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,639 did think he was pretty darn good against Boston, and 102 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,439 it's just the outside shooting is the only thing missing 103 00:05:14,519 --> 00:05:17,480 right now. But I asked coach lup Pregame about him 104 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,079 yesterday because he had been playing back up five or 105 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,720 been playing some minutes at the five in training camp, 106 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,240 like he was being groomed for that role. And then 107 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,519 you saw it play out against Boston and that's the 108 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,079 right team to do it against because he can switch 109 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,600 on a lot of different guys and what else. 110 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:35,079 Speaker 1: Are we gonna do with that? Many guys out you 111 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,439 might as well put Kobe at them. 112 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,079 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he played in the game in Boston too, 113 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,800 if I recall, but I don't know. I thought he 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,680 looked good, like his rebounds were fifty to fifty balls, 115 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,120 a lot of those. His hustle was very much a 116 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,360 parent out there. It's just if he could knock down 117 00:05:53,399 --> 00:05:56,040 three balls, I think he'd be getting consistent minutes for 118 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,360 this team. Like that is the one thing, and that's 119 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,480 part of why they drafted him. He shot forty six 120 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,800 percent last year at MISSOO and it just hasn't translated, 121 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,399 not just to this level, it hasn't translated to the 122 00:06:07,439 --> 00:06:08,199 G League guys. 123 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: It hasn't. Wasn't the I'll look up as status in 124 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,160 a second. But wasn't that kind of an anomaly shooting 125 00:06:14,199 --> 00:06:14,959 year for him too? 126 00:06:15,639 --> 00:06:17,079 Speaker 3: It was, but it was like. 127 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: Last Yeah, he had a break to shoot them all 128 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:19,800 of a sudden. 129 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,079 Speaker 3: He hadn't taken him much before, so. 130 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: Right fair Kevin Porter Junior. Also in the third quarter, 131 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:32,120 I mean third quarter versus the Celtics was insane. Then 132 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,199 you go six for six or something like that. 133 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:36,319 Speaker 3: Ye had thirteen. 134 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good to see And I thought like 135 00:06:41,079 --> 00:06:43,319 and Adam, You've talked about this a bunch, but like 136 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,360 when he lets the game just when he plays like 137 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,959 a actually like a real point guard, I guess looking 138 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:52,759 to get other guys involved is when we see, well 139 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,439 we saw it last night we were watching the game. Like, 140 00:06:54,439 --> 00:06:57,360 when he's getting other guys involved, it's like, yeah, this 141 00:06:57,519 --> 00:07:00,439 is good, like this this with a nice back of 142 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,560 the you know, the stuff you can do individually with 143 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:05,839 the ball in his hand. But like there's something kind 144 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,800 of there if he just continues to let the game 145 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:09,319 slow down. 146 00:07:09,399 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: Like, look, I understand watching it on the floor, like 147 00:07:12,079 --> 00:07:16,199 you can kind of understand Tylo's methodology and thinking and 148 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,920 why he has had so much leeway this season despite 149 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,079 some of the more terrible performances. I think the issue 150 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,279 is just, you know, it's like we said, it's can 151 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:28,480 you do it consistently? So far the answer has been no. 152 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,920 And I think on a lot of teams that would 153 00:07:31,959 --> 00:07:35,040 be fine. I think, you know, assuming health on this 154 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,879 team and what their aspirations are. I just don't know. 155 00:07:38,519 --> 00:07:40,800 I don't know how great of a fit that ultimately is. 156 00:07:41,199 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Long term or just for the rest of the season. 157 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: I think even like for the postseason, Like what what 158 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,680 in the postseason will have given? Giving Kevin Porter Junior 159 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,120 all these minutes this year have done for this team 160 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,360 the postseason is a good point. I will say, you disagree, 161 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,279 you're making a face. I want to put in one 162 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,519 one thing real quick though. 163 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,839 Speaker 1: For for KPJ, he is the only other person other 164 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:04,439 than James Harden who I'm not. 165 00:08:05,839 --> 00:08:08,639 Speaker 2: It is he has to handle Yeah, he has to 166 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,240 handle the ball. That is like a team that has 167 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:13,920 so many damn guards. I don't even understand how this 168 00:08:13,959 --> 00:08:16,839 is an issue, but I yeah, I feel like my 169 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:19,720 point still stands, Like if this Clippers team is trying 170 00:08:19,759 --> 00:08:22,600 to do what we think they can do in the postseason, 171 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,079 like what we'll have playing Kevin Porter Junior all these 172 00:08:25,079 --> 00:08:25,639 minutes have men. 173 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: I mean, he has probably like three of the worst 174 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,679 turnovers of the season still, but like a backcourt violation 175 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,240 where nobody was pressuring him, but he's dancing with the 176 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,879 ball and it just goes on the back court or 177 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,080 he fad that one play was that preseason or regular 178 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,399 season where he threw it to somebody in the front 179 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:49,879 row was not a Clipper. Yeah, but I agree with you. Yeah, 180 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:55,279 like if he's passing first. He is a talented passer. 181 00:08:55,879 --> 00:08:59,320 If he's looking to get others involved, that's kind of 182 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,679 the key right there. Look for your shot a little 183 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:07,080 bit less, okay a lot less, and pass the basketball 184 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,120 more because you can do it, you can make it. 185 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: That's the thing we've seen him have, you know, like 186 00:09:12,159 --> 00:09:14,799 the crooked number and the assists column before and it's like, 187 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,600 oh cool, okay, less points but more assists. Awesome. And 188 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:21,919 that quote, Adam that you posted where Tyleru talks about 189 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,840 wanting him to like I can't remember the phrasing exactly, 190 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:27,440 but it was like run the system or not system, 191 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,600 but like run the team, command the team on court. 192 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,039 It's like, yeah, more of that, which again he's shown 193 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,840 flashes of being able to do. Just like Will said, 194 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,240 it's just a consistency. 195 00:09:38,799 --> 00:09:39,159 Speaker 2: Part of it. 196 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: And that's a different thing than looking, you know, looking 197 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:46,559 for your shot or looking to get yours. You can 198 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,879 do that. You can be one of those types of players. 199 00:09:48,879 --> 00:09:52,519 But he's never going to he's never going to turn 200 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,519 into I think, a winning basketball player if he doesn't 201 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:00,000 just try to to get them more, get them into 202 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,840 their offense, regardless of he's taken the shot at the 203 00:10:02,879 --> 00:10:03,759 end of the possession or. 204 00:10:03,799 --> 00:10:09,799 Speaker 1: Not right, Yeah, and he's here though, like I saw 205 00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:12,000 two and three Hoops tweeted like, I wonder if his 206 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,240 you know, his leash is gonna get shorter from Tyloo 207 00:10:14,279 --> 00:10:16,279 at this point, and I'm like, I don't think it is. 208 00:10:16,759 --> 00:10:18,080 We're halfway through the season. 209 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: But one thought, one thing I thought was kind of 210 00:10:21,159 --> 00:10:23,519 interesting is like when they talked about like what it 211 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,919 could mean that that game at Boston in the post game, 212 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,480 Tyler basically said like, you know, we'll see, like, yeah, 213 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,120 you know, he he's and of course, I mean he 214 00:10:32,159 --> 00:10:34,480 has the like the larger stample size. He's he's not 215 00:10:34,519 --> 00:10:37,159 gonna put a whole lot of eggs in a basket 216 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,240 from one game that was, you know, as incredible of 217 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:44,759 a game as it was, so yeahs that game, Yeah, 218 00:10:44,799 --> 00:10:49,879 oh yeah. It wasn't perfect. It was a view from 219 00:10:49,919 --> 00:10:51,080 an effort perspective. 220 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 3: I thought the game against Chicago was telling in terms 221 00:10:56,159 --> 00:10:58,600 of this minute and god. 222 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: That was in my bad cat category of the breakdown 223 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,480 for the four and five of the bat that was 224 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,200 gross that game. 225 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: Well, specifically though he's one for ten, Terror's man is 226 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,879 playing well out there, and Terre's man got taken out 227 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:17,440 of the fourth quarter for James Harden instead of KPJ, 228 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:23,679 who blows up about that game. He's one for ten. Yeah, 229 00:11:23,799 --> 00:11:26,399 that was not good a read on the situation and 230 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:27,440 the hierarchy going on. 231 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: And we've seen that a couple other times too, right, 232 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,080 didn't we see a game recently where KPJ closed over done? 233 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,600 I can't remember what. Yeah that was. I think the 234 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,399 Clippers ended up winning that game, but it was still 235 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,399 kind of like, that's odd. No, So it just feels 236 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,080 kind that's like kind of the one weird thing right now, 237 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,200 I guess for Clippers fans. 238 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 239 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: I you know, I can see the flashes, I don't 240 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:53,279 see the vision. 241 00:11:53,919 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: M I like that take on that. Derek Jones found 242 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,200 his groove against the Celtics and against the Wizards, which 243 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,840 was really good to see. We're gonna talk about, is 244 00:12:08,879 --> 00:12:10,559 anything else good we want to talk about before we 245 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,200 talk about the second half versus the Wizards and the 246 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,600 bad parts of the four. 247 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:19,159 Speaker 3: And five, and Derek Jones has been pretty good. 248 00:12:20,159 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 249 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: I think that's one of the blessings in disguise of 250 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:25,519 having that many guys out in the Boston game, and 251 00:12:25,519 --> 00:12:27,519 it sucks that you lose that game because it's going 252 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,360 to be forgotten and it would have been an all 253 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,879 time regular season Clippers win. But it gave him the 254 00:12:32,879 --> 00:12:35,720 ability to get up twenty freaking shots, which got him 255 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,960 out of his shooting slump, and it carried over until 256 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:38,519 the next night. 257 00:12:40,519 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely a plus there. Let's talk the second half 258 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:50,320 of that Wizard's game, because that was horrible. The first 259 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,519 half was going as the first half against the Wizards 260 00:12:52,519 --> 00:12:55,679 should go, with our guys being healthy relatively except for 261 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,919 Chris Dunn, which we're gonna talk about you a little bit. Well, 262 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,919 what was happening in the second half? Out of you 263 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:02,399 were there? 264 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: No, I was frustrated on the air. I said it 265 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,320 multiple times. By the midway point in the third quarter, 266 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,919 I said, the process here is really bad by this 267 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,159 Clippers team. It looks like they're just trying to run 268 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,759 out the clock and do the bare minimum of work 269 00:13:17,799 --> 00:13:20,399 to secure this victory. That's what it looked like. And 270 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,440 while you can say, well, it's the game four, four 271 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:27,039 and five, Okay, they just had five guys return that 272 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,840 didn't play against Boston the night before, so I don't 273 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,799 think you can use they were tired excuse when a 274 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,039 lot of the main guys didn't play the night before. 275 00:13:36,919 --> 00:13:39,720 I think it just it was one of those games 276 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,759 that does happen during a regular season, even with the 277 00:13:42,799 --> 00:13:44,720 team that has been as locked in as the Clippers 278 00:13:44,759 --> 00:13:47,519 have for the most part and have not had many 279 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,000 times when they played down to their opponents. But this 280 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,559 was one of those games where it just seemed like 281 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,879 we're just gonna get this over with and we're not 282 00:13:55,919 --> 00:13:58,840 gonna have good process out there, actually run our offense. 283 00:13:58,879 --> 00:14:01,080 We're gonna try to hit a couple threes. Hey, you 284 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,360 take a three, get it. If somebody catches a heater here, 285 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,639 we can put them away. I mean Kawhi Leonard was 286 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,559 basically just cherry picking on one end of the floor 287 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,720 in that third quarter for the most part. Like if 288 00:14:12,799 --> 00:14:18,039 Kawhi had a level of unseriousness or whatever out there, 289 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,399 like what's where the rest of the guys. 290 00:14:21,919 --> 00:14:25,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was not one of the more enjoyable 291 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,440 games to watch. Well and I were watching the second half, 292 00:14:27,519 --> 00:14:29,720 we were just like, this is just bad basketball, Like 293 00:14:29,799 --> 00:14:35,600 by both sides. It was sloppy. Harden had some inexplicable turnovers. 294 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Yeah, it was. It was ugly basketball, 295 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,960 and it started out so well. It's it's interesting this 296 00:14:43,039 --> 00:14:45,559 Clippers team, Uh, the way they can get off to 297 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,399 hot starts, like we didn't see as much in the 298 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,039 two and three era, and then it really it really 299 00:14:50,039 --> 00:14:53,759 sort of tapers off, but it did look I mean, 300 00:14:54,279 --> 00:14:57,039 it just looked like a lack of focus out there. 301 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,039 And then the effort on the defensive end is not 302 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,360 what we've seen as of late. As you know, it 303 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:04,960 looks a little bit more when they were when they 304 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,960 were a little bit more waderless sort of in December. 305 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, it's almost a credit to them that it 306 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:15,600 stood out so much last night, how bad that third 307 00:15:15,679 --> 00:15:17,799 quarter was and how bad the fourth was, even in 308 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,519 a game they win by seventeen, because it's just goes 309 00:15:21,559 --> 00:15:24,519 against everything they've shown us so far this season. But 310 00:15:24,559 --> 00:15:27,240 I'm telling you, other teams you see way more of 311 00:15:27,279 --> 00:15:31,799 that basketball more consistently, and you might become numb to it. 312 00:15:31,799 --> 00:15:34,200 It really stood out from this Clippers team last night 313 00:15:34,279 --> 00:15:38,000 because they have been a really good squad when it 314 00:15:38,039 --> 00:15:40,519 comes to being consistent, especially on the defensive end. 315 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I like looking at it like that, that, 316 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,159 Like it really was kind of like jarring some of 317 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,600 that third quarter basketball, which is refreshing because, like I mean, 318 00:15:50,679 --> 00:15:54,279 even with other Clippers teams recently, you would be you 319 00:15:54,279 --> 00:15:56,240 would just be kind of used to playing down to 320 00:15:56,279 --> 00:16:00,320 your opponent that kind of thing. Thank god it was 321 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,720 the Wizards, though, because I think maybe any other team 322 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,720 in the NBA might have been able to make. 323 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,559 Speaker 2: The Probably it's probably coming back from that. 324 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a twelve point lead. I think 325 00:16:11,039 --> 00:16:12,480 it was that that was in the fourth, they were 326 00:16:12,559 --> 00:16:13,879 up by twelve, and it was just kind of like, 327 00:16:13,919 --> 00:16:16,399 this doesn't feel like twelve points Like this feels like 328 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:18,000 this could just slip away at any moment. Thanks, I 329 00:16:18,039 --> 00:16:20,360 think it was norm hit a couple of big shots. 330 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:26,200 Will what's your level of concern with Chris Done missing 331 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,159 two games with Knie soreness in a row. 332 00:16:31,159 --> 00:16:35,519 Speaker 2: It's concerning. I mean, it's less concerning with Kawhi back 333 00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:38,879 in the lineup, just defensively, like you know, we're not 334 00:16:38,919 --> 00:16:41,240 taking any sort of fall off there, And I think 335 00:16:46,679 --> 00:16:49,360 I think it's it's it's frustrating because running the second 336 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,879 unit like the next the next option is still definitely 337 00:16:53,879 --> 00:16:56,399 a better ball handler than Chris Done, but not not 338 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,559 as well run out of a player in Kevin Porter Junior. 339 00:17:00,519 --> 00:17:02,360 But I don't know, it's only a couple of games, 340 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:09,079 so I'm not super concerned about it right now. Long term, yeah, 341 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,599 long term, it loses a lot of versatility, especially I 342 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,000 think in closing lineups and what we want to do. 343 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:17,559 What we want to do there from a versatility perspective, 344 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:19,640 And we talked about this so many times that this 345 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,759 team just because of sort of the players and the construction, 346 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,119 like there's not a lot of margins, there's not really 347 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,759 as much interchangeability and versatility. 348 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,079 Speaker 1: As we've been used to. 349 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,319 Speaker 2: So even losing like one aspect of that, and even 350 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,400 if it's majority going to be minutes outside of closing 351 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,359 lineups like with the second unit, I still think that 352 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,559 that can make a huge difference for a team who 353 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,759 was operating on narrow, narrow margins. 354 00:17:44,599 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's a lot of games coming up too, 355 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,240 in like every other day, Adam, I know, we said 356 00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:52,000 Tyler kind of said he wasn't super worried about it yesterday. 357 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:55,240 Not for sure what else he's supposed to say, But 358 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,039 what's your vibe with this? Because I'm a little I'm 359 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:01,119 probably like a three and a half out of ten. 360 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:02,480 I'm worried about that. 361 00:18:02,519 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 2: I'm at a two to two point five. 362 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: Seems like, well, what up? Pretty big percentage pretty quickly. 363 00:18:12,079 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 3: I'm at a point five just because I lose demeanor 364 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,680 when talking about it pregame. It doesn't seem like it's much. 365 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,960 I think it's just he's been dinged up because he 366 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:28,359 hustles so much. He's a madman out there. Yeah, it's 367 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,400 wear and tear stuff. But I don't think there's a 368 00:18:31,559 --> 00:18:34,160 long term issues going on right now. But he does 369 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,720 have an injury track record in his past, so maybe, okay, 370 00:18:37,759 --> 00:18:39,319 you know what, I'll bring it up to a one. 371 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: See every everyone's been you. 372 00:18:42,599 --> 00:18:46,079 Speaker 2: Know, Adam took away bigger jump. 373 00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 3: I can fear monger myself. 374 00:18:50,759 --> 00:18:55,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, like now that we mentioned it, all right, Last 375 00:18:55,079 --> 00:18:59,039 thing to say about this, I have a gripe about 376 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,720 jerseys and combinations real quick, if you. 377 00:19:01,759 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: Know, I know, I already know what she's gonna say. 378 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, So the Clippers when they went to 379 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:12,640 Portland wore red jerseys. They were in Portland. The paint 380 00:19:12,799 --> 00:19:16,240 of Portland is is red. The whole thing is red. 381 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,039 There's a bunch of red branding everywhere. Yesterday, the Wizards 382 00:19:20,319 --> 00:19:24,839 were effectively the exact same shade of blue and red, 383 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,759 that is, the Clippers blue and red. The Clippers paint 384 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,359 is blue, there's blue everywhere. The Clippers are wearing white. 385 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:38,440 Visiting teams should not wear the same color. I don't 386 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,039 think at all of the home team, if possible, especially 387 00:19:42,079 --> 00:19:47,640 if it's the same color as the entire paint. I 388 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,519 think it's insane. I may be the only one who 389 00:19:50,519 --> 00:19:53,960 thinks this, but it's just like it we've lost the 390 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,319 plot with jerseys and courts if we're having visiting teams 391 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,640 matching the court of the home team that they're playing. 392 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,079 Speaker 3: So would you like more of those wacky alternate jerseys 393 00:20:05,079 --> 00:20:08,400 where like the Boston Celtics are wearing red or the 394 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:09,640 Bulls are wearing green. 395 00:20:13,039 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: Isn't that Wizards jersey in Old Jersey? 396 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, they shouldn't exist. 397 00:20:19,839 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 3: I mean, like the extreme, the wackiest ones where it's 398 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,359 like some of these city edition uniforms this season that 399 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,240 we went through the list and it's like, what the 400 00:20:27,279 --> 00:20:30,039 hell is this? This has there are no colors that 401 00:20:30,079 --> 00:20:32,880 have anything to do with their team on here I get. 402 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: I mean that would actually maybe solve this problem because 403 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,759 no other home team's court is like neon green or 404 00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:41,200 whatever the Jazz are using like that, that would be fine, 405 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,839 but yeah, like using the same like there's just the 406 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,240 same color palette. It feels like for a lot of 407 00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:50,480 these like non city edition alternates or whatever, did you 408 00:20:50,519 --> 00:20:51,680 happen to the same color? 409 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: Did you want the Clippers that to be wearing they're 410 00:20:54,759 --> 00:20:57,000 blue when they were up in Portland? 411 00:20:57,319 --> 00:21:00,319 Speaker 1: Any other color than what the majority of the home 412 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,039 court is? So yeah, blue. 413 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like if they wear the white, that's too 414 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,119 similar to Portland typical. Yeah, so I guess they just 415 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,000 have to wear the blue. 416 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nothing. 417 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 2: That doesn't seem that hard to It doesn't seem like 418 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,680 that big of an ask if I'm being honest, right, 419 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:19,759 And if. 420 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: You're Washington, why where? Yeah? I was just like, what 421 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,079 do we do with It's? 422 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 2: Well, I do think these things are aren't these prescribed 423 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,079 by the league like you're gonna like when they're gonna 424 00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:32,200 wear ex jerseys? I mean, it's still something I feel 425 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,839 like they could figure out in scheduling. But I hear 426 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,839 your point, and I did think I did think in 427 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,640 both of these games that it wasn't when. 428 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,599 Speaker 1: It's an old man gripe. I understand if no one 429 00:21:41,599 --> 00:21:44,559 else cares, but I think something got a cloud. 430 00:21:45,079 --> 00:21:47,079 Speaker 3: Heyff doesn't like the jersey. 431 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:50,799 Speaker 1: It's just it's just a combination. The jersey is fine, 432 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,720 but don't combine it with a home team's court. It's 433 00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:55,000 the exact same colors. 434 00:21:56,759 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 3: Maybe it's not about the jerseys. We need some more 435 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,160 wacky court designs, like during the nd season tournament. 436 00:22:05,759 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 2: Now you're onto something. 437 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: Now I'm with it. 438 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: You know, nes jerseys, more court designs. You don't have 439 00:22:10,759 --> 00:22:12,119 to buy those if you're a fan. 440 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,839 Speaker 1: Okay, that's actually a great idea you can auction off. Yeah, okay, 441 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,400 I like that. Let's bookbuk that if Barber listens to 442 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,839 the show. Barber, let us know at Clippers Pod on 443 00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:23,799 Twitter if you think that's a good idea. All right, 444 00:22:23,839 --> 00:22:28,039 coming up, it's trade season. Lawrence Frank talked a touch 445 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,079 about trades during last night's game. We're gonna talk about 446 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,319 a scoch about trades. Then we're gonna just kind of 447 00:22:36,319 --> 00:22:39,079 do a little quick wrap up for the thousand games 448 00:22:39,079 --> 00:22:41,240 coming up between now and Valentine's Day. There's a quick 449 00:22:41,279 --> 00:22:45,759 audio break coming up, and then trade talk in three two. 450 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,799 Speaker 2: One, welcome back into Clips and Dip. If you listen 451 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:51,200 to audio, you might have enjoyed a ad there from 452 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,960 one of our great sponsors. If you watch it, you 453 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,039 just saw us all sort of pause for a moment, 454 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,160 which is a fun moment that you can catch if 455 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,839 you watch the show over at YouTube dot com Slash 456 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,799 at Clippers podcast. Anyways, we talked about the Clippers four 457 00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:04,920 and five. Now it's trades, trades, trades and more trades. 458 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,599 Everybody's favorite time of year, it's the trade deadline. Got 459 00:23:08,599 --> 00:23:11,119 to get into it for the Clippers. We talked a 460 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,559 little bit about it at the coming into the break, 461 00:23:13,599 --> 00:23:17,640 but Lawrence Frank was joining Brian Seeman and Jim Jackson 462 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,319 last night and he talked a little bit about it, 463 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,000 and I mean it was basically he really likes the group, 464 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,279 but with Kai, with the Kawhi and James Harden, if 465 00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:31,799 there's these opportunities to improve the roster, you improved the roster. 466 00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:34,759 So I think essentially the same thing we've been saying 467 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:40,000 all year, which is really just kind of off of 468 00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:43,200 speak for we're not giving up any assets that we're 469 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,279 not giving up any major assets. I don't think for 470 00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:49,000 anything at this trade deadline, Adam, But what do you think. 471 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,480 Do you did this conversation with Lawrence Frank change her mind? 472 00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:53,279 Were you reading the tea leaves? Have you seen something 473 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:54,119 completely different? 474 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: No, I just confirmed stuff we have been saying, like 475 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,440 they're not going to make any move that sack surprises 476 00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:03,960 their future. Basically, like if they make a move, it's 477 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:09,039 going to be because it's a player that can either 478 00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:12,759 be had on the cheap that doesn't take away from 479 00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:17,920 any future plans, or a young player that can help 480 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,440 them now and in the future that they might want 481 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,279 to hold on to. It's going to be something. But 482 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,960 I don't see talked about Zach Lavine and telling how 483 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,279 he has that big player option for forty eight million 484 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:33,559 and twenty twenty seven, And that's the type of guy 485 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:37,319 I don't see them investing in because that could disrupt 486 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:39,720 what they have going on later. 487 00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: It also doesn't fit with the mold of like what, yeah, 488 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,039 you know what they've done like and yet, and I know, 489 00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:47,480 if you're a fan of this team, you've been through 490 00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:50,079 enough press conferences where we've said you know this team 491 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,160 is going to be and what they're trying to build 492 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,680 with one thing, and then you see something else. This year, 493 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,039 they've really have like backed up and delivered on that 494 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,680 promise though, so I would be a little surprised if 495 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,880 season a little later than mid season they were like, 496 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,279 you know what, this has been going really well for 497 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,680 us despite Kawhi Leonard. Let's go ahead, and let's go 498 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,599 ahead and throw that out the window. Let's start again. 499 00:25:10,279 --> 00:25:12,920 Let's let's go back to the drawing board. 500 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: Let's switch. 501 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 3: Also, unlike past years, you know, they don't have a 502 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,640 player who I think is going to come out and 503 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,839 be like begging for them to go get a certain 504 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:26,119 player in the locker room in a postgame situation that 505 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,240 puts pressure. 506 00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: I think there is a lot less player involved. 507 00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: Am I talking about the Lakers or Paul George? What 508 00:25:31,799 --> 00:25:32,200 am I talking? 509 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:36,839 Speaker 1: Who know? Weird? Why would that be this year or 510 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:37,880 not last year? 511 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,519 Speaker 2: Well, and then I saw some reports today. I don't 512 00:25:41,519 --> 00:25:43,400 know how to this is, but there's some murmurings that 513 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,640 the team also isn't it is still not entertaining offers 514 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,480 for Terrence Man. 515 00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: Really they're getting calls, but they're not. 516 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,559 Speaker 2: But I you know, I don't know, you know, that 517 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,440 could also be like a smoke screen where you know, 518 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,359 that's the thing the team says to drive up the 519 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,240 asking for us. I have no idea, but if that 520 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,319 is the case, is well, I mean, at best, you're 521 00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:04,720 looking at a very marginal move. You're probably looking at 522 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,680 a backup five, I think is like the only sort 523 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,319 of acquisition you're you should really be keeping an eye 524 00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:13,599 on if that's the case, because I would be. I 525 00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:15,720 would just be pretty shocked if they were willing to 526 00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:20,480 ship out Norm And there's no way. I mean, I 527 00:26:20,519 --> 00:26:22,640 will eat my I'm not wearing a hat today. I'll 528 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,240 eat my hat if they end up trading a first 529 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:27,759 at this trade deadline, like I will. Yeah, I would 530 00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:30,640 be so, I would be beyond shots. And I know 531 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,240 that this Clippers, this Clipper's front office has thrown us 532 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,839 some curveballs before this one to me would be that, 533 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,839 I don't know what do you think? Unless unless they 534 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:42,640 send me a text and they say, you know what, 535 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,759 you're right, this is our year, and then and then 536 00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:46,279 they can go then they can go ahead and trade 537 00:26:46,279 --> 00:26:46,680 the first. 538 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: Whatever you want. Well, the backup five is the most 539 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,119 important thing and the only thing they should make a 540 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,640 trade to figure out. Kai Jones should probably just go 541 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,680 to the g League for his own development sake, because 542 00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:02,720 it's not like he's was lighting it up there, like 543 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:05,039 at to a point where he was forcing mobil Like 544 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:06,920 there's never even been really a competition between him and 545 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,559 Mobaba and Mobaba is as we saw when Zoo was out, 546 00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:16,319 not good enough to even spot start with the regular 547 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,839 starters because it. 548 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: Just but of course he's not like and that was 549 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,319 not real what he was brought in for it. But 550 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,359 I think, yeah, like more troubling has definitely been his 551 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:28,920 backup minutes. Yeah, like I think that's more of an 552 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,839 indictment on his his tenure as a Clipper totally. 553 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: So it's gotta be back up five. A bunch of 554 00:27:34,039 --> 00:27:36,960 people want to trade Terrence, but I don't know what 555 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,279 you're trading for Terrence. I don't know what Center makes. 556 00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:44,359 What does Terrence make? Like eleven million dollars? Yeah, I don't, 557 00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:46,240 I don't it's like eleven to twelve or something. I 558 00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:49,240 don't think we're fighting, right, Like who if you can 559 00:27:49,319 --> 00:27:52,240 get some of these names like Valentudis or Robert Williams 560 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,839 without having to include Terrence Man, you wouldn't include Terrence Man. 561 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,599 Speaker 2: Well, it isn't the valas I thought it was like 562 00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:00,240 pretty widely reported the asking Christ with two second. 563 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,599 Speaker 1: Two seconds, Tucker, get it done. 564 00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:09,279 Speaker 3: I'll be surprised that they don't get more. I think 565 00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:12,720 that out there to put blood in the water, to 566 00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:15,839 have multiple teams come in and go, oh, well, i'll 567 00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:19,400 give you two seconds. Right here, they go, well, we 568 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:21,759 got another team bidding against you. I think it's a 569 00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:23,680 way to drive up the price. I think they can 570 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:29,559 get more than that. I'm I'm concerned that competing that's more. 571 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:37,160 You're right that that sweetener is an all timer, but 572 00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:41,519 I think the Clippers could be competing. Unfortunately, with the 573 00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:46,039 Lakers backup Biggs after a d came outlast night and 574 00:28:46,039 --> 00:28:49,599 he's demanded we go back to the four. Basically, the 575 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,079 Lakers are going to be on the hunt for unless 576 00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:55,799 they get like Walker Kessler out then they might be 577 00:28:55,799 --> 00:28:59,039 going after Williams and Jonas Allen Chiss. Both teams in 578 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,880 LA might be after the same guy. 579 00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: And they have a lot more future assets to play 580 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:05,920 with than the Clippers do. 581 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,119 Speaker 3: Will you second round pick? Yes? 582 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: Will you shared some pretty interesting Robert Williams content. Did 583 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,279 that change your mind at all on bringing him to 584 00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:16,880 the Clippers. 585 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very disappointed that the Shrek movie is being 586 00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:25,079 delayed in favor of another Minions film. So, I mean, hey, 587 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,440 as a lover of cinema, there's a spot for him 588 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,759 on this on this Clippers stand. 589 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, we needed Patrick Patterson used to do like movie Nights, 590 00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:32,759 we need another guy who. 591 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: He had like an early screening of Uncut Gems, and 592 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,359 it was like it was one of I thought, like 593 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,680 the cooler Team moments where everybody was like he had 594 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,079 a picture of everybody in a small private theater watching 595 00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:43,880 Uncut Gems. 596 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: He's like, man, getting your friends together on. 597 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: Release, folks, before release. 598 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: I love getting my friends together watching nothing more than 599 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,720 the most stressful movie I can possibly That's I mean, 600 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:03,880 that's living. So and the Collin Sexton idea is forgive 601 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,039 me for the people who want to trade for Colin Sexton, 602 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,640 seemingly impossible for the Clippers, for the fact that we 603 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,559 have no future. 604 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: So are you are you ready to give up Norm? No, 605 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,400 not for Colin Sexton. There's no way that you get 606 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,640 it out of that deal without Norm. And I know, 607 00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:23,279 whatever draft capital you can put together, yeah, which I'm like, 608 00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:25,599 I'm not trading dorm right now. The vibes are too good. 609 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,759 Speaker 1: He would probably end up scoring seventy five points on 610 00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:31,599 us in some kind of pivotal that matchup. If that happened, 611 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,160 we can't trade the dorm the vibes. The locker room 612 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:35,599 would be. 613 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,799 Speaker 2: That'd be subtraction by subtraction, my friend, exactly. 614 00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: The locker room would be gutted. Dude, it would be brutal. 615 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,039 Speaker 3: I don't know why they'd do it, honestly, for norm either, 616 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,319 who has another year after this year, Like, I don't know, 617 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,359 that's a weird The problem is what is Utah up 618 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,680 to and how much are they looking to get the 619 00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:01,839 trading marketing they have Kessler they I. 620 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: Thought kind of made sense. Was that which I thought 621 00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:10,799 kind of makes sense? Yeah, he's like one of two 622 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,079 talented players with the future on that roster, Like you're 623 00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:16,759 not getting you know, you're not getting an upgrade unless 624 00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:20,440 you can get a bunch of draft capital. I don't know, 625 00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:22,160 I kind of understand the position. 626 00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:26,799 Speaker 3: Kessler's so young that he can still fit within the 627 00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:30,640 next timeline. He's twenty three. I wouldn't give him up 628 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:33,440 either for two even for two first round picks, Like 629 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,960 the chances you get a guy like that with either 630 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,599 of those picks or player that good. It's I mean, 631 00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:45,839 it's that's the lateral move. I but that's what could 632 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,640 offer uh and the bear me because if they got 633 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,200 it like Walker Kessler, they'd be real problem. I actually 634 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,640 didn't even disagree with Anthony Davis describe. I don't know 635 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,880 what they've been doing over there with Dropolaka and not 636 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,119 bringing it in a center for him for a long time. 637 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,440 It's like there's a pretty easy solution to this. Put 638 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,799 Ad back at the four guys. 639 00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:05,519 Speaker 2: He's never wanted to play center. 640 00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: He never wanted. 641 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the worst kept secret. But for the Clippers, 642 00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:17,839 what did you guys think of Jonas Valnis last night? 643 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,440 Because to me, he is me slower and like every 644 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,680 way he looks a little beer than you. 645 00:32:26,279 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: I told I told Charles this, like I I mean 646 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,799 of the of the backup center names that have been 647 00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:33,920 like kind of linked to the Clippers, I mean it's 648 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,039 really been like for me, Chris bus like Chris Busche, 649 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,680 Robert Williams the third and then like maybe like maybe 650 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:43,039 Valentunis and he's the one that I would want, But 651 00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:46,880 it's purely out of nostalgia from you know, watching him 652 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,880 do terrible things to the Clippers. It's more out of 653 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,720 that than like, you know, where he is currently as 654 00:32:52,759 --> 00:32:53,160 a player. 655 00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:56,079 Speaker 1: I think Tyler could get him to do what we 656 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,759 need a backup center to do better than Mobamba can 657 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,559 do it. So I say make the trade. Oh yeah, 658 00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:02,519 it's still an upgrade. 659 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's still an upgrade. 660 00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an upgrade if they do it without having 661 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,839 to give up anyone who's playing tangible minutes for the Clippers, 662 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,400 and like, like, don't include Jordan mill or anything like that, Like, yeah, 663 00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:20,799 make it include Jordan Millan. We'll say get him out 664 00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:21,079 of here. 665 00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 2: That's what it takes to get it done. I'll get 666 00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:23,960 it done. 667 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,279 Speaker 3: But no one else, Like and yeah, Mobaba did raise 668 00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:34,039 his three by four percent last night in one game. 669 00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: That is true. That is a very good point. I 670 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,279 gotta let that if we if that keeps going, he's 671 00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:41,680 going to be at one hundred percent. We're going to 672 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,880 be unstoppable like the time the playoffs come. 673 00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,279 Speaker 2: Because that's the only thing we need in our backup center. 674 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:50,599 Speaker 1: Shoot more threes. Yeah, I think the Clippers are going 675 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,640 to be kind of hanging out. Uh, I don't know if. 676 00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: I would be surprised if there wasn't a move for 677 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,119 a backup center though sure, yeah, I guess I'm not 678 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,880 like not shots just given what you know, what we 679 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,559 have to give and what's available. But I thought to 680 00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:10,280 be getting made. Yeah. 681 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 3: We thought they were going to do it last year though, right, 682 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,679 and they didn't get anybody big Plumbing Tice was not 683 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,719 a great combination. They Tys did what he could. 684 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: I got yelled at for saying that that Tyson wouldn't 685 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,119 work as a backup. Five people were yelling at me 686 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:28,000 about that. 687 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,679 Speaker 3: They were right to. But I wonder at this point, 688 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,679 Mason Plumbley's probably better than Mobamba. And all I asked 689 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,719 for this season was Mobamba to be better than Mason 690 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,360 Plumbley was last year. And I don't know if he 691 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:44,880 has been. 692 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,079 Speaker 1: I don't think he has been. 693 00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,199 Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, I'm not. I wouldn't go there. 694 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: They both have different frustrations. Mason Plumbley's frustration is that 695 00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,119 he brings the ball up and thinks that he's playing 696 00:34:56,159 --> 00:35:00,719 for the Showtime Wakers. Mobamba's frustration is the he somehow 697 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,000 doesn't have any go to post moves. Will was talking 698 00:35:03,039 --> 00:35:05,880 about he's like just have a hook. He didn't even 699 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,199 have a hook or something, and he like he'll make 700 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,199 a three and then not get back fast enough and 701 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,360 his guy will just score in the post. So like 702 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,239 it's not ideal, but again it just goes back to that, 703 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,719 like I just think, Tyler, you can coach that guy 704 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,840 to do better than what Mobam is doing for his role. 705 00:35:24,159 --> 00:35:26,880 It's not like groundbreaking, but it's like, just please do 706 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,800 what we're supposed to do. So we can spell Nico too, 707 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,280 because he's been playing the five a bunch, Like we 708 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,559 gotta think about that. Like the more we play, we 709 00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:37,760 go small. It's more miles on an older Nico too, 710 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,239 So like they gotta get a back up five. No 711 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,679 one's good on the bio market. 712 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:48,639 Speaker 3: Like in the meantime, why not give Kobe Brown a 713 00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:51,679 couple more games here before the trade deadline. I thought 714 00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:52,400 he'd looked good enough. 715 00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of chances for him to 716 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,480 maybe play. Send us your trade ideas over at Clippers 717 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:07,599 Poor or at Fallout of a on Twitter, or at 718 00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:12,440 Clippers Podcast over on YouTube. We're gonna talk the Clippers 719 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,239 playing a lot of games. In this next segment, there's 720 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,280 gonna be a quick audio break. But if you're watching, 721 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,360 as we'll mention, there's just kind of a I don't 722 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,880 know ominous is the right word, but a little zenful 723 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,800 pause we do in between segments. So there's gonna be 724 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,480 a zenful pause. And then we're talking the Clippers playing 725 00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:32,880 every other day until the back to back in three 726 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:40,400 two one Outam was supposed to bring us in, but 727 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,920 I think he froze. 728 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,159 Speaker 2: Longer than normal zenful pause on this one. But I 729 00:36:46,519 --> 00:36:50,400 get getting getting right back into it. Clippers, you know 730 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,639 it's coming out of them. Four and five still got 731 00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:54,920 a lot of games coming off, as Chuck Liuer do. 732 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,760 They got a game every other day from the twenty 733 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,519 sec event all the way to the eighth of February. Uh, 734 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,880 and then you know, a tasty little back to back 735 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:10,360 on the twelfth. In the thirteenth, Charles, what do you think, 736 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,400 Obviously the timing of the schedule is difficult. What do 737 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,800 you think about this slate of opponents? Is this gonna 738 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,079 present uh? Is this gonna present an inordinate challenge for 739 00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:22,360 the Clippers or should this be could this be a 740 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,760 time to sort of keep tightening things up, tuning on 741 00:37:25,079 --> 00:37:26,679 a little less of what we saw in that second 742 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,920 half of Washington and a little bit more of I 743 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,719 don't know, second universe the Celtics. 744 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,039 Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. Yeah, So it's how many one, two, three, four, five? 745 00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:41,519 It's nine games? I don't know, like I hope they go. 746 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,320 I think they can go six and three. I would 747 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:49,280 be fine with five and four because I think they 748 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,079 should go six and three because it's the Spurs, the Hornets, 749 00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:55,719 the Raptors, the Jazz twice and then for like the 750 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,639 good opponents, they're gonna have to play good. It's Bucks, Lakers, 751 00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:07,199 pacer Is, Grizzlies, all very not easy games. Kawhi is 752 00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:09,639 gonna miss the Grizzlies of the Jazz game because that's 753 00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:12,440 a back to back. So if they can, if they 754 00:38:12,519 --> 00:38:16,679 go five and four with Kawhi missing a game, I 755 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,400 feel okay about it. Adam, how are you feeling about 756 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,360 this upcoming slate of games every other day and then 757 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,199 a back to back? 758 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:32,519 Speaker 3: Oh no, every other day is looking pretty good. They 759 00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:32,880 have the. 760 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:38,039 Speaker 2: Other day to put away. They have to put away Spurs, Hornets, Raptors, 761 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:41,039 and the Jazz both times. That I mean, that gets 762 00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:43,159 you five out of your nine right there, like, just 763 00:38:43,199 --> 00:38:46,559 take care of business like against those teams, and if 764 00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:51,880 you can get if you could go five hundred against Bucks, Lakers, Pacers, Grizzlies, 765 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:56,280 you're you're doing pretty good. Seven and two, baby. 766 00:38:56,039 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna say seven and eleven and two. Okay, Adam, 767 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,559 where are you at? Seven and two? 768 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 3: Hey, they can go one and eight, But if they 769 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,079 beat the Lakers, I'm good. 770 00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:08,679 Speaker 1: What about the mentality we need? 771 00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:18,519 Speaker 3: No, uh, I'll sign up for five and four with 772 00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,679 a win over the Lakers. Of course, I would take that. 773 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:28,679 Speaker 2: You guys have too lowest, good enough enough. 774 00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:30,679 Speaker 3: I just these are the dog days. 775 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 1: So I put that part into is it the All 776 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,639 Star break? Like these guys what we saw in that 777 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,320 second half against the Wizards, Like, if we get any 778 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,239 of that verse, like, I don't think it's gonna happen 779 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,880 against you know, Lakers, Pacers, Grizzlies, Bucks. If we get 780 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,000 some of that against the Spurs, that's a team that 781 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,360 can be annoying and grab a win. I'm not really 782 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,000 worried about the Raptors. The Jazz. I just get a 783 00:39:57,039 --> 00:39:59,039 hiccup with that, just because we play him twice And 784 00:39:59,079 --> 00:40:01,239 there's always kind of weird when you play a team 785 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,079 twice and a short ish amount of time, So I 786 00:40:05,119 --> 00:40:07,880 think there's maybe a chance we split that because again, 787 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,719 there might there's probably gonna be a rest day because 788 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,159 one of the Jazz games is part of a back 789 00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:14,960 to back with the Grizzlies, so that's the twelve and 790 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,840 thirteenth back to back, So we might see a big 791 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:23,079 ass rest day against the Jazz at some point. Six 792 00:40:23,159 --> 00:40:25,559 and three, I'm switching. I'm going to six and three. 793 00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:26,599 Give me six and three. 794 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a definite that they're gonna win 795 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:34,119 all those games, but they they should. I mean, if 796 00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:36,639 they don't put away at least four of those, i'd say, 797 00:40:36,639 --> 00:40:37,880 you gotta yeah. 798 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 1: Oh, if they don't, If they don't win four of 799 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,360 the Spurs, Hornets, Raptors, Jazz, Jazz, there's something going on. 800 00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, go on five and four. It's a tough stretch. 801 00:40:55,519 --> 00:40:59,800 It is in some ways, absolutely, But five and four 802 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,000 iron sharpens iron, my friends, that's too close to four 803 00:41:05,039 --> 00:41:05,480 and five. 804 00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: Four and five would be a damn nightmare. 805 00:41:09,039 --> 00:41:13,280 Speaker 3: How haven't the Spurs been playing really well? Yeah? 806 00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:15,079 Speaker 1: Right about it. 807 00:41:15,079 --> 00:41:17,119 Speaker 3: I feel like they're a better team than we're giving 808 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:21,079 them credit for, Right now and that Memphis game. Memphis 809 00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:23,840 is going to be pissed after what the Clippers did 810 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,199 to them. 811 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: Right, Oh, the Memphis game, I'm that I'm that one. 812 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,119 I might be penciling in as a loss. 813 00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:35,199 Speaker 3: I'm just kind of accepting there could be a bad 814 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,800 road loss because road games are hard. 815 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, we're only a game. 816 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 2: We're only a game and a half up on the MAVs. 817 00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:47,840 So if it goes four and feel four and five 818 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,920 over that stretch. Obviously it depends on what they do. 819 00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:52,800 But it seems like they're kind of consulting in their sales. 820 00:41:52,960 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: Lively's hurt. Yeah, hmmm, So that's actually that's a great 821 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,800 segue into standings prediction as of the at the All 822 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,559 Star break, what do you guys think the Clippers are 823 00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:09,920 going to be in? Standing wise? Right now? The Clippers 824 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,199 are six as well mentioned, they are a game and 825 00:42:13,199 --> 00:42:15,719 a half out of the play in and they are 826 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,400 three games out of the much wanted home court advantage 827 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:25,719 four seed. Adam, at the All Star break, excuse me, 828 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,039 where do you think the Clippers will be? 829 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,559 Speaker 3: I want to say they're still in the sixth spot. Okay, 830 00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:36,679 I'm worried about it, but I'm going to say they're 831 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,079 right where they are because the Lakers have the Grammy 832 00:42:40,159 --> 00:42:44,480 road trip coming up, so they have some easier teams there, 833 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,599 but they are out on the road. Maybe they chase 834 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,400 them down if they've beat them in this upcoming game, 835 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,239 that'll help them. They beat the Lakers, they could be 836 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:54,079 in the five spot. 837 00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:57,079 Speaker 2: Why do we also have like a weird road trip 838 00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:00,400 during the Yeah, no one's ever gotten to the bottom 839 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:00,599 of that. 840 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, why do we have a road trip to during 841 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,079 this time? 842 00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 2: The Clippers also have a Grammy road trip. Essentially, it's 843 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,719 like they just copy paste the schedule from the previous year. 844 00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 3: It's the key of form road trip. I got a 845 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:14,760 lot of. 846 00:43:16,639 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: You're saying fifth. 847 00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:21,519 Speaker 3: Nah, I'm gonna stick with six. I'm gonna play it. 848 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:22,639 Say six, pot. 849 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 1: Will Where do you think the Clippers will be? 850 00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 2: I I'm unfortunately, I think they're gonna stand stand pad 851 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:37,039 at six going into the All Star break and yeah, 852 00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:40,000 then it's really the ball is just really gonna be 853 00:43:40,039 --> 00:43:42,199 in their court as to if they can make up 854 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,360 enough ground. 855 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm having I. 856 00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 2: Think the most likely playoff scenario is them in the 857 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,039 four or five matchup. I'm not gonna say where. 858 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: The break right? Yeah? Yeah, I think if they're going 859 00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:04,559 six sin three, with as Adam said, one of those 860 00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:07,920 wins being against the Lakers, I think they could take 861 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:14,800 the fifth spot possibility. They're right there, we're tied with 862 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:20,400 the Lakers. Effectively. Yeah, I'm gonna go fifth with a 863 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,639 question mark on it, but I feel okay about it. 864 00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 3: Could depend on Kawi's minutes. 865 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we didn't really touch on that. It seems 866 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,239 like that uh Tyler gave a coy answer in regards 867 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:38,599 to Kawhi's minutes restriction, which means I think by February 868 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:44,639 that's probably done with would be my guess, And. 869 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 3: I did make fair I made a stupid prediction that 870 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,960 I think he's gonna go up with his minutes tomorrow 871 00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:59,960 against Milwaukee. Oh this outside of Okay, before the game 872 00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:03,320 last night, you talk about coach Lubi and Cooy, he 873 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,880 had said he couldn't remember when it came to whether 874 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,039 or not they've extended his minutes limit, and he was 875 00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:14,639 still at twenty four. So it kind of made me think, 876 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,880 is he that close to getting to twenty eight or 877 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,039 to getting to thirty minutes, not to thirty five, but 878 00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:24,480 to twenty eight or thirty. I could see that tomorrow. 879 00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 1: Thirty tomorrow. Yeah, I mean, well, the bucks are good, 880 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,480 so we will probably need thirty minutes of Kauai. Yeah, 881 00:45:33,559 --> 00:45:36,079 I like that idea. Yeah, he's not going to jump 882 00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:39,840 ten minutes though, that'd be crazy. Oh that was the 883 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,840 other part about the Lawrence interview. He made it very 884 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,119 clear as clear as he could that basically what Adam 885 00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:49,000 just said, he's not jumping up to thirty five, like 886 00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:54,639 this is a progressional minutes restriction lift. So yeah, I 887 00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:58,039 think thirty minutes in the next week couple games when 888 00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:00,280 they play so many games, like, I think think that's 889 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,480 definitely on the horizons. 890 00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 3: Did say he's in the final phase of his rehab phase. 891 00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:08,519 That was the wording. 892 00:46:12,039 --> 00:46:12,599 Speaker 1: I like that. 893 00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 2: The end is insight, the end does lie. 894 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: All right, that about wraps things up. We're gonna be 895 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,760 doing some postgame lives on the coming days because there's 896 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,519 a bunch of games. We're gonna do a full episode 897 00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:29,679 when we get that all figured out. Well, where can 898 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,760 people leave reviews for this podcast? Or perhaps go even 899 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,360 further and want an alert every time we put out 900 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,159 an episode. 901 00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:39,639 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so if you wanted to review this podcast. 902 00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:43,400 You could do that over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. 903 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,800 You can even leave comments over on Spotify. I don't 904 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,400 know if people have been doing that, but you should. 905 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,639 But if you want to, if you want to get 906 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,239 just a fresh update on where this show is going, 907 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,400 catch us live after games, uh and just you know, 908 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,679 check us out on video. You can do that over 909 00:46:56,679 --> 00:47:00,000 at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers podcast. But how 910 00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:00,679 however you. 911 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 1: Consume the show, you know we appreciate you. We absolutely do. 912 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,920 And before we get out of here, Adam, as the 913 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,800 sun sets on your car, we need one positive thing 914 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,360 for these Clippers fans heading into the weekend. 915 00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:17,159 Speaker 3: So Milwaukee's been playing some pretty good ball. They're eight 916 00:47:17,199 --> 00:47:19,639 and two of their last ten games. When you look 917 00:47:19,679 --> 00:47:23,400 at the opponents, it makes a little bit less impressive. 918 00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:26,880 I'm not saying big frauds, but I am saying their 919 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,119 offensive and defensive rating that has been both top five 920 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,880 the last ten games, it's probably a little bit inflated. 921 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,960 They haven't played a lot of good teams, and in fact, 922 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,119 the best team they played in the Knicks during that stretch, 923 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,280 they got beat up. So I think it's a big 924 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,360 game for the Clippers. Tomorrow in a game they should 925 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,920 a game they have a great chance of winning. 926 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,039 Speaker 1: There we go from Adam's Mouth to the Clippers God's Ears. 927 00:47:55,679 --> 00:47:58,400 Thank y'all for hanging out. Have a good rest of 928 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,719 your weekend everyone, stay safe, supposed to rain, which hopefully 929 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,079 that's the good rain about the bad rain. And yeah, 930 00:48:04,079 --> 00:48:05,880 we will talk to you later and as always, let's 931 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:06,440 go clips.