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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf

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<v Speaker 1>I AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 1>demand on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome back Tuesday, May twenty seventh. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a bit of a gravelly voice. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>been smoking cigarettes or just not talking very much? I

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<v Speaker 1>have a poll up on my I have I have

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<v Speaker 1>a it just like what's your face Miley Cyrus? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Yeah, that's what No, I just it.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you smoked cigarettes? It's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably not heard that you say that, though, because I

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<v Speaker 3>did have a dream that I smoked cigarettes this weekend, y.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is odd because maybe you've got a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a scratchy throat or I don't know something's going

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<v Speaker 1>on there.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, did you use your voice a lot? Did your

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<v Speaker 2>wife let you talk?

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<v Speaker 4>Or no? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>In the cage again this all weekend? Because a long week.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't be a lot with us.

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<v Speaker 3>After Friday, we really I didn't really say much on

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<v Speaker 3>the drive home from from Bravery on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>I said nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>I had Well, if you were.

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<v Speaker 3>There by yourself, so you have I mean Lis, I

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<v Speaker 3>my wife so she could fill the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Space and I had a solid two hour drive home

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<v Speaker 1>of silence.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was lovely. It was such a beautiful drive.

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<v Speaker 1>It always is a thank you to everyone who came

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<v Speaker 1>out and for Bravery Brewing, for hosting us yet again,

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<v Speaker 1>always a great time. I mean, it's just gorgeous. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect kick off to summer because it feels like summer.

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<v Speaker 1>That weather up there was, Yeah, it was pretty great.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready to feel old?

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<v Speaker 1>Bring it before we talk about domestic violence on the

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<v Speaker 1>world stage?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I get a little bit of America music?

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<v Speaker 5>Of course?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Do you remember as a youth? You were

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<v Speaker 2>an older youth than I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was, but I remembered a great time in American history

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<v Speaker 1>when we were the top of the top. And as

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<v Speaker 1>a woman, it meant a little bit more to a

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<v Speaker 1>young me seeing Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>Lou rettin Ah, seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>That balance beam routine, seeing that awful haircut that we

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<v Speaker 1>all had, and knowing that America was number one.

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<v Speaker 2>And this little girl who was not a little girl

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<v Speaker 2>to me at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time but was an idol, was leading that charge. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was strong and she was brave, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>mighty though little.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was Mary lou.

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<v Speaker 1>Retton, and she was on the cover of our cereal boxes,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had those gold medals.

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<v Speaker 2>And Bella Coroli. Before we knew that he was a monster.

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<v Speaker 5>He was so proud.

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<v Speaker 2>He was such a proud second father.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she had a first father, but

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<v Speaker 1>there he was in his tracksuit and we were all

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<v Speaker 1>rejoicing as Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>And now now we're so old that.

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<v Speaker 1>Mary lou Retton can't talk her ass out of a DUI.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you pull over Mary lourett You don't let her go.

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<v Speaker 5>Chances are or whoever pulled her over didn't know who she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was exactly my points.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm Mary Louretton, and the cop who's like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven is like, I don't marry lou what?

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm Officer Bergstrom? What's your point?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Lady?

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<v Speaker 3>In Marion County, West Virginia, May seventeenth, Dy, my god,

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<v Speaker 3>where have we.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone as a country? Didn't she was close to she

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<v Speaker 2>had some health problems.

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<v Speaker 5>You had pneumonia?

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<v Speaker 2>I think she had some Do you think she had

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<v Speaker 2>a GoFundMe? Page? Things have not been great. Remember her

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<v Speaker 2>family had said that she was near the end, and.

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<v Speaker 4>They started a whole GoFundMe or mills and stuff that

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<v Speaker 4>was very strange.

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<v Speaker 2>That was story. I never found out what was wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah she recovered, that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Well did she well, I mean from the sickness, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was, but then got right back into the bottle.

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<v Speaker 3>America fifty seven. Mary Leuretten is fifty seven years old.

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<v Speaker 5>This video that has.

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<v Speaker 3>Made its way around the world over the last twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four hours is I fully believe it is one of

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<v Speaker 3>the funniest things I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 5>And I believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's because I don't want to say they're just

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<v Speaker 1>like us, because I've never struck my husband in the

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<v Speaker 1>face purposefully. I may have done it when I'm sleeping.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I've done it when I've slept, but a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times he's like, you really hit the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of me. But not everybody has any sort of

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<v Speaker 1>domestic violence, even playfully, if that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Not everybody has that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's nice to see a real moment, albeit violent,

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<v Speaker 1>from a world leader and his wife, and just the

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<v Speaker 1>whole backstory of them, of her being his teacher and

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<v Speaker 1>having like twenty something years on him, twenty four years,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four years on him, and just like slapping him

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<v Speaker 1>like a little boy. Like, I loved all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that she is so thin. That must be cigarettes, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what is Yeah, that's legs are literal little match sticks.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, just the whole pageantry of the French Force

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<v Speaker 1>one or whatever it is they travel on, and the

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<v Speaker 1>red jacket in the you know, striking him in the

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<v Speaker 1>face and him looking like the little schoolboy that he was, like.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole thing to me, I just want to eat

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<v Speaker 2>it all up.

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<v Speaker 3>So French President of Manuel Macrone and his wife had

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<v Speaker 3>just touched down in the northern Vietnamese city of Hanoi

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<v Speaker 3>for an official visit. This was late Sunday night, the

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<v Speaker 3>local time, and you see the door open. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if it's a seven forty seven, but it's a

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<v Speaker 3>big airplane. So the big door opens and you see

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<v Speaker 3>the French president there kind of getting ready to walk

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<v Speaker 3>out of the airplane. What you then see is a

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<v Speaker 3>person who's kind of blocked by a doorway or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>dressed in red with red sleeves, and then whacking the

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<v Speaker 3>French president in the face. Now did she push him,

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<v Speaker 3>did she smack him? Did she hit him? It does it,

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<v Speaker 3>but he's kind of taken aback by it. As you

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<v Speaker 3>would be, and then realizes the door's open, and all

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<v Speaker 3>of the TV cameras.

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<v Speaker 5>Saw all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, Hey, he told reporters, we are bickering and

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<v Speaker 3>joking with my wife and a video becomes a sort

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<v Speaker 3>of geoplanetary catastrophe. In the world we live in, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a lot of time to lose on discussing

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<v Speaker 1>She kind of takes both hands, fingers out stretched, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's a tiny little woman, and she kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>shoves him in the mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>To the point where he goes back a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, everything's different in France.

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<v Speaker 1>They smoke cigarettes, they do everything with more passion. They

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<v Speaker 1>have the affairs, they it's a very French different world

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<v Speaker 1>over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you can smack your husband in the face like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's no big thing, But you can also cheat

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<v Speaker 3>on your wife. So why wouldn't that Why wouldn't there

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<v Speaker 3>be a little bit of payback? Yeah, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if he did.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's cheating on her. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>all know that now that that would not go well.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a fun, big deal. There is more serious

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that's going on. President Trump says that he is

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<v Speaker 3>not happy with Vladimir pup?

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<v Speaker 2>What did he think was going to happen?

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<v Speaker 1>That he and Putin would be friends and then they

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<v Speaker 1>would just be in line with all their thinking. Putin

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<v Speaker 1>is a grown man, and just as Trump is a

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<v Speaker 1>grown man. You are set in your ways. When you

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<v Speaker 1>become a certain age, especially even more so for a

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<v Speaker 1>man who is aging, you become more set in your.

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<v Speaker 2>Ways more so.

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<v Speaker 1>And the idea that Vladimir Putin would capitulate to anything

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<v Speaker 1>Trump would say or want is absurd. And Trump should

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<v Speaker 1>know that first and foremost, because he's exactly the same way.

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<v Speaker 3>They're very similar people. Granted one of them is a

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<v Speaker 3>war criminal and the other is not. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>understand the ego portion of what he's been doing with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's you, nail it. It's all ego.

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<v Speaker 1>It's thinking that somebody was your friend and is going

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<v Speaker 1>to do what you want, and that's not dropping.

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<v Speaker 3>That as like I thought we were friends and thinking

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<v Speaker 3>that that's going to make an impact.

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<v Speaker 2>This goes back to girls in high school.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, more on this Ukraine Russia stuff when we

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<v Speaker 5>come back.

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<v Speaker 7>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 7>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>Some stories that we are following today. National Public Radio

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<v Speaker 3>sued President Trump today over the executive order that would

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<v Speaker 3>have ceased all federal funding for NPR. The May first Order,

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<v Speaker 3>they say, violates the First Amendments protections of speech and

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<v Speaker 3>the Press, and steps on the authority of Congress. There

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<v Speaker 3>was a car that ran through a crowd of Liverpool

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<v Speaker 3>soccer fans, left nearly fifty people injured. They said that

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<v Speaker 3>that may have gotten onto the Liverpool street by tailgating

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<v Speaker 3>an ambulance. People was the last latest number, including four kids, injured,

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<v Speaker 3>after the car appeared to speed through the crowd of

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds of people on Water Street as they were celebrating Liverpool.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Lelo and Stitch and Mission Impossible Final reckoning

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<v Speaker 3>record setting for a Memorial Day weekend. Lelo and Stitch,

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<v Speaker 3>they said, brought in one hundred and eighty three million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars in its opening weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a new testimony in the Diddy trial that

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<v Speaker 1>provides more dirty details of this entire realm of crazy

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<v Speaker 1>that existed with Diddy and the circle that in the

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<v Speaker 1>concentric circles that surrounded him, his relationships, how he treated

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<v Speaker 1>a people that he was with that he employed all

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<v Speaker 1>of the things. More dirty details come up. We will

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<v Speaker 1>get into it coming up. After the news at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Hour, Ukraine's western allies, including the UK and the US,

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<v Speaker 3>have agreed to lift all remaining range restrictions on the

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<v Speaker 3>use of their weapons. President Trump issued his strongest criticism

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<v Speaker 3>of Vladimir Putin yet. The move was announced after President

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<v Speaker 3>Trump posted on truth social that Putin has gone crazy

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<v Speaker 3>and that he is still needlessly killing a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 3>He was asked about this jumping off of Air Force one.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not happy with what Putin's doing. He's killing a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of people, and I don't know what the hell

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<v Speaker 8>happened to Putin. I've known him a long time, always

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<v Speaker 8>gotten along with him. But he's sending rockets into cities

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<v Speaker 8>and killing people, and I don't like him at all. Okay,

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<v Speaker 8>we're in the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets

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<v Speaker 8>and to Kiev and other cities.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it at all, not even a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>But Putin's gonna say whatever he wants to say to

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<v Speaker 3>He's he is a manipulator, is what I don't get about.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump In this situation is he knows how to play

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<v Speaker 3>that game. Trump knows how to play the game of

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<v Speaker 1>And why he wouldn't see that in Putin is insane

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<v Speaker 1>that's World War three stuff, right, That's that's things getting

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<v Speaker 1>ugly real quick it. And and imagine this, Zolenski gets

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<v Speaker 2>Zelenski gets axed.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, Yeah, he assassinated, Yeah, as opposed to just cut

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<v Speaker 2>And then that holds Trump's feet to the fire.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Trump's no fan of Zelenski, but it's a

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<v Speaker 5>General Keith Kellogg.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop and then you ventially go to somewhere where you

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<v Speaker 4>You get the president.

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<v Speaker 5>President putin presidents.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get together and hammer this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Out and come to sometimes of signed document that ends

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<v Speaker 3>this war. At General Keith Kellogg, there is a special

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<v Speaker 3>secrets there in terms of what is coming up next.

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<v Speaker 3>The Kremlin, in response to Trump's truth social posts, said

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<v Speaker 3>that these were just emotional reactions and that this is

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<v Speaker 3>a very critical moment which is fraught with emotional stress

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, I think we all know when someone's upset in

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of those It's one of those lessons we

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<v Speaker 3>may have to relearn over and over again. I again

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<v Speaker 3>this to me. To me, this sounds weak stream on

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's part to say that you don't like it, or

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<v Speaker 3>I thought we were friends or all of that. That

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<v Speaker 3>of that and this whole Yeah, but don't do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the alternative? The alternative is immediately telling Vladimir Putin,

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<v Speaker 5>You can do that.

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<v Speaker 3>You immediately tell him whatever you thought sanctions were doing

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<v Speaker 3>to your economy now ten times worse, one hundred times worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody in Europe wants to do the same thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're waiting for our leadership on this. And instead of

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<v Speaker 3>just saying I thought we were friends, or I don't

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<v Speaker 3>it at all, that is all weak and I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 3>that that's the reaction that Trump has given. I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 3>he hasn't come back and said very forcefully.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of money to be made there and

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's not going to be in the White House forever.

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<v Speaker 3>You mean as Russia as a market for Trump post presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of money to be made with an

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<v Speaker 1>intact relationship with Vladimir Putin and Russia.

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel, well, I don't know if that's I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's enough for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not enough for you. It shouldn't be enough for you,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's the way things.

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<v Speaker 5>Are, so we don't know if there are any talks.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a report actually out of out of the

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<v Speaker 3>Kremlin this morning that suggested that there had been some

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<v Speaker 3>communication because the United States and Russia had allegedly agreed

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<v Speaker 3>to another prisoner swap. There were a few hundred prisoners

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<v Speaker 3>that were swapped last week, and everybody kind of took

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<v Speaker 3>that as a baby step towards some sort of a

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<v Speaker 3>ceasefire and potential peace agreement. But not clear if that's

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<v Speaker 3>an actual if that's truth coming out of the Kremlin.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Coming up next, we'll get into the latest details.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody by the name of Capricorn Clark is on the

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<v Speaker 1>stand at the Diddy trial. This is a female former

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<v Speaker 1>witness who has laid out all of the freak offs

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<v Speaker 1>and the beatings and the druggings and all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out she was in a relationship with kid Coody

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<v Speaker 1>Cutty Cutty, old old Old. I Love I love the music,

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<v Speaker 7>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 7>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>I started watching this show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a I want to say it's a dateline documentary

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<v Speaker 1>type show. Just one episode in I believe it's a series,

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<v Speaker 1>not sure how many parts there are, but it's about

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<v Speaker 1>romance scams online and it just rips your heart out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, these are older people.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them are married, but I mean not older

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<v Speaker 1>older people, people in their sixties and seventies, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>lonely for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 2>And the.

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<v Speaker 1>Scammers are so good in that it's not just those

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<v Speaker 1>emails you would get I'm a prince in Nairobi and

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<v Speaker 1>a legit relationship via text and email and ims and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. And it's it's heartbreaking to see people who

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<v Speaker 3>Is there how much creativity does it require on the

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<v Speaker 3>scammers part.

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<v Speaker 1>Come up with all those all compliments The majority is

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<v Speaker 1>just bathing them and compliments and attent, just sheer attention.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be creative. I mean, these are

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like one of the women that's featured, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, she raised kids, she's married, she raised kids, kids

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<v Speaker 1>are out of the home. She loved having the home

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<v Speaker 2>And then now it's just like she's still with her husband.

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<v Speaker 1>They're fine, but you know, they eat dinner in front

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<v Speaker 1>game or whatever, and she's bored, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got you know, she's playing words with friends. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're very creative the way they get into it. She

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't looking for anything. She's playing words with friends on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>just like she does for years, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a new friend that pops up, and then it's

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<v Speaker 1>just normal communication that you would have with anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's awful to see these people realize that it

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<v Speaker 1>was all just to get money. But these are smart

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<v Speaker 1>women that are featured in this show. They are smart,

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished women. And it just it talks. It just it

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<v Speaker 1>not a rare thing. It's happening a lot everywhere. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we had a story that we found in the

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<v Speaker 1>cut about a woman who says, it was only after

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<v Speaker 1>my father died that I got access to the conversations

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<v Speaker 1>with the creatures who fleeced him. He kept like cataloged

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<v Speaker 1>all the communic hat and loved it, which brings up

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<v Speaker 5>Well, if he's losing money at it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's his money, I don't know. Anyway, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>So. Capricorn Clark is a former employee of Sean Ditty Comb's.

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<v Speaker 3>Capricorn Clark has been on the stand today. They're actually

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<v Speaker 3>in a short recess in the Manhattan Federal Courthouse where

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<v Speaker 3>this is taking place. She Capricorn Clark, said that Diddy

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<v Speaker 3>was armed with a gun and said he wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>kill rapper Kid Cutting after did he discovered the Cuddy

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<v Speaker 1>Let me get this straight, Seawn Combs, Sean Ditty Combs

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<v Speaker 1>would hire male prostitutes to come in and have sex

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<v Speaker 1>time frequently, while he would drug her and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a real relationship with somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Right who was also a successful hip hop.

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<v Speaker 3>Artist, Broken person. Capricorn Clark said that Combs actually threatened

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<v Speaker 3>her with the gun as well. She said, get dress,

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to kill that guy. Clark said she tried

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<v Speaker 3>what you want to do that he was livid at

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<v Speaker 3>her for not telling Ditty the relationship between Cutty and Ventura.

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<v Speaker 3>She said again that he had threatened her multiple times before,

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<v Speaker 3>that she saw Combs kicking Cassie Ventura. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 3>way that she described it, she broke down in tears

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<v Speaker 3>as she said, did he kicked Cassie Ventura repeatedly down

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent full force, and then ordered Capricorn Clark to

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<v Speaker 1>I often think about how it should be a requirement,

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<v Speaker 1>You become larger than life in life, you become a

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<v Speaker 2>You're titan of your industry.

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<v Speaker 1>You're successful, you have money, you have everything you've ever wanted, jets, cars, women, jewelry.

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<v Speaker 1>What it is it should be required that you have

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<v Speaker 1>am I doing? You know, because they get they get

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's weird that you say that, because one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things that she testified to today that Capricorn

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<v Speaker 3>the attorney who did it said we've met before, haven't we.

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess there was an interview that was done

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<v Speaker 3>last year and what she said to that attorney at

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<v Speaker 3>the time was he wouldn't be in this ditty, would

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but yeah, how do you pick?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you because if you don't have a no

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<v Speaker 5>And he clearly didn't have.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, even she says, I mean in that episode

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<v Speaker 3>she tried to get two of the bodyguards to help out.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not going to do anything. They're paid to just

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<v Speaker 3>sit there and do nothing because they are there are

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<v Speaker 3>no no people around him.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently he gave lie detector tests to his employees as well.

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<v Speaker 6>We should start doing that around here, even if it's

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<v Speaker 6>not real. Yeah, just for fuck a nine volt battery

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<v Speaker 6>and if you lie. Oh my goodness. I got out

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<v Speaker 6>of yoga yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Patriotic Yoga.

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<v Speaker 2>It was pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>They had like sounds of firecrackers and lights and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good messages of being thankful for people who

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<v Speaker 1>have given it all for this country and for us

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to do yoga in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a day on a Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get back in the car and I'm feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>All relaxed and all patriotic and feeling great energized. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have the radio on low and I'm like looking

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<v Speaker 1>up something on my phone directions to get somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what the hell is this? Good Lord, I

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<v Speaker 2>turn it up and it's me. I didn't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>We were running like a best of yesterday, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like seeing the car of trying to find something.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what the hell is it?

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<v Speaker 5>What is shit walking? Chicken?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And I was like, oh man, what a real moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I didn't do yoga, but I met one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and two year old World War two vet yesterday.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow. He and his buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's one hundred both of them World War two vets

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<v Speaker 3>that were at the memorial?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the no guy in that relationship?

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<v Speaker 5>Probably one hundred years?

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred year old? Guys?

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<v Speaker 1>I got you gotta just the freak offs on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, you guys, like, listen, I made it to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and two.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you know?

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>More on that scam of finding out that the eighty

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<v Speaker 3>two year old dad had a lot of girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 2>But no love, but it made him happy.

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<v Speaker 5>Gary and Shannon will continue.

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<v Speaker 7>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 7>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to spend a little bit more time. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in True Crime Tuesday, we can touch back on this

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because I think it affects a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us know if you or you know somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>has been affected by these romance scams, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is much more prevalent than anyone thinks. It's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this Dateline documentary, I believe it's called something to

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<v Speaker 1>the effect of hey, beautiful, something like that, Like that

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<v Speaker 1>was his opening line that he would use all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's more prevalent than we think. And

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<v Speaker 1>in that documentary, it's not just one woman that's scammed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bevy of women, and it's a bevy of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Men or others. Women do this as well, pretend to

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<v Speaker 1>be men who use pictures of real people for their scams.

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<v Speaker 1>Those people are victims as well. I mean, imagine your

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<v Speaker 1>picture you would be perfect for this being taken, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>online somewhere and somebody pretending to be your picture, trustworthy face,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, acceptible, acceptable. I was gonna give you a

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<v Speaker 1>compliment right there, and then I pulled back because you

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<v Speaker 1>you ruined it.

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<v Speaker 2>You ruin the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you know there's there's men out there where

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<v Speaker 1>they have faces where you'd be like, oh, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>can trust this person, and those pictures are being used

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<v Speaker 1>to commit these awful crimes. But in the cut there

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<v Speaker 1>was an anecdote that was written about and it was

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<v Speaker 1>from a writer who says, it was only after my

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<v Speaker 1>father died that I got access to his conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>I love the way way he writes this, the creatures

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<v Speaker 1>who fleeced him. He was so enamored by the members

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<v Speaker 1>of what he jokingly called his harem that he printed

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<v Speaker 1>the transcripts of their dialogues and filed them in metal

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<v Speaker 1>cabinets in his office.

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<v Speaker 5>I liked it. Dad was a little inter retentive man.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he was a transportation engineer or an urban planner.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what Dad did. This is how he made

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<v Speaker 1>sense of things. This is how he kept his belongings chronicled.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this, like you said, is more common. I'd love

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<v Speaker 3>to know. Send us a talkback if this has happened

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<v Speaker 3>to you, or if that maybe this happened to mom

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<v Speaker 3>and Dad and you didn't know until later.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary and Shannon I'm in my eighties and I have

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<v Speaker 4>had several men trying to contact me through Facebook, and

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<v Speaker 4>one was like twenty nine years old. And I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of played the game with that one and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a little too old for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh I like older women. He said, what a joke.

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<v Speaker 4>They are such scammers. They are.

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<v Speaker 1>It is important because I mean, I was captivated by

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<v Speaker 1>this show and not be not for a purient interest,

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<v Speaker 1>for a I want to be on guard. I want

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<v Speaker 1>other people to be on guard of this going on,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is so human to want a connection with somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why Facebook is so popular. It's nice to connect

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<v Speaker 1>with people well.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's also we've talked about this many times in

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<v Speaker 3>the terms of the wellness aspect of loneliness, that it

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<v Speaker 3>has a ridiculously detrimental effect to your physical health if

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<v Speaker 3>you find yourself lonely.

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<v Speaker 1>Because and that's why we're programmed to seek connection, because

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<v Speaker 1>if we don't, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Die, right, that's dark, it's true. But let us know.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit us up on that talkback feature using the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into it coming up in the twelve o'clock hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and we get into true crime Tuesday more about this

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<v Speaker 1>man's life, how he had such a healthy bench, a

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<v Speaker 1>harem he called it, of women, and kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>question of if this is how people choose to spend

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<v Speaker 1>their later years is there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's an interesting aspect that I hadn't thought of maybe, right.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, if he's not losing all of his money.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in this show, you're getting interviews from the younger

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<v Speaker 1>relatives and the grandkids, and like they took all of

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<v Speaker 1>grandma's money or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>Grandma was pretty happy talking this twenty grandma's money. It

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<v Speaker 5>ain't your money.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, you know. So that's it opens up another conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary and Shannon will continue right after this. You've been

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<v Speaker 3>listening to The Gary and Shannon Show. You can always

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<v Speaker 3>hear us live on KFI AM six forty nine am

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<v Speaker 3>to one pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime on

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