WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:09.359 Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bubo. These guys 2 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.160 are your favorites, so like say subscribe and raid it 3 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:20.600 live Stock and me righteous go on Yesterday and listening 4 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:24.879 watching Limb always keep its watching. 5 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.120 And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James. 6 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:33.159 Bubo Fay, Hey, bobes, Hey, Matt. What's going on? Man? 7 00:00:33.240 --> 00:00:33.759 Everything good? 8 00:00:34.200 --> 00:00:34.399 Yeah? 9 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:37.799 Yeah, just uh ready. We got a great guest calling 10 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:39.280 on the day, so I'm excited for that. 11 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:40.240 Yeah. 12 00:00:40.359 --> 00:00:42.159 Yeah, Well, I'll tell you that it's been a busy day. 13 00:00:42.200 --> 00:00:43.679 I mean I kind of I think I woke up 14 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:46.079 wearing my running shoes or something, because I woke up 15 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:49.679 and have not stopped since. I think I've had about 16 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:52.960 eight minutes down And I take that back. I drove 17 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:54.920 to the I drove to work, so I had fifteen 18 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:57.119 minutes of uninterrupted peace for a moment. But other than that, 19 00:00:57.119 --> 00:01:00.640 I've been busy, busy, busy. The cast streamed down the 20 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:04.200 in the outbuilding is nearing not nearing completion, but the 21 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:07.400 first phase is definitely close to being done. Hanging doors, 22 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:09.200 doing all that sort of stuff. Had to go to 23 00:01:09.239 --> 00:01:11.280 work today because there's a flu going around and one 24 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:13.239 of my employees was out, so I had dropped by 25 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:16.640 work and all chaos broke out there because all sorts 26 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:19.359 of stuff was going on, good stuff, good stuff. When 27 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:21.719 I right when I walked in, Niko was there and 28 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:23.000 he goes, hey, there's a guy in the back that 29 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:25.400 knew Paul Freeman. He said, no kidding. So I went 30 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:27.920 back there and talked to him, and I guess Paul 31 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:30.599 Freeman was like part of the four H Club or something, 32 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:33.079 and he knew this guy and he was better friends 33 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:35.359 with Wes Summerlin. So he's telling me the stories about 34 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:39.959 Wes and Paul and everything, and then he goes, oh, 35 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:41.799 footprint casts, I'll show you what I do with these, 36 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:43.200 you know. And he shows me a picture on his 37 00:01:43.239 --> 00:01:45.480 phone of a footprint cast that I've never seen before. 38 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.120 I go, wow, where'd you get this? Because he mentioned 39 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:50.760 how Grover Krantz is I think sister or niece or 40 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:53.400 somebody had a store in the Kennewick area, the Tri 41 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:56.280 City area, and is that one of the Krantz I've 42 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:58.439 never seen that. I've never seen that cast before. He goes, oh, no, 43 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:00.599 that's when my friend gave me down in hum Or, 44 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:02.879 Northern California, somewhere and there's a there's a creek down 45 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:05.560 there off the Smith River, and he's got a couple 46 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:07.319 of them off there, and go, no kidding, So he's 47 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:09.439 going to try to find out He's going to try 48 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:11.080 to find the name of the creek and tell me 49 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:11.560 what it was. 50 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:15.439 Yeah, but anything anything that those Wilson Creek tracks. 51 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:18.280 Wilson Creek maybe it is. I don't know, but I 52 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:20.000 have his number, I have his name and everything. But 53 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:21.800 check this out. That wasn't even the end of it. 54 00:02:21.879 --> 00:02:24.280 You know, I'm going to try to copy that at 55 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:26.159 some point. I think I kind of mentioned like, well, 56 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:27.919 I drive through Kennewick every once in a while if 57 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:29.960 I'm out there, would you mind if I drop by 58 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:31.520 and maybe make a quick copy of it? And he 59 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:33.240 didn't seem to be adverse to that, which is kind 60 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:36.560 of cool, but the same the same guy. He goes, oh, yeah, 61 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:38.599 you know my son. I think it was my son. 62 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:42.599 My son filmed one one time. What he goes, yeah, yeah, well, god, 63 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:43.800 maybe you can get me in touch with them. I'd 64 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:44.879 love to see it. And he goes, oh, it's on 65 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:47.159 my phone. I'll just show you. So oh yeah, sure, okay, 66 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:49.719 And so he pulls out his phone, and I guess 67 00:02:49.719 --> 00:02:52.680 the story was. It was on Tiger Canyon Road out 68 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:55.199 in the Blues, you know. So it was wintertime and 69 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:57.879 there's this there's a gate over there on the road 70 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:00.000 that goes up and during the winter time they close it. 71 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:03.159 So these guys they backed their snowmobile, like they back 72 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:05.159 their trucks up against the gate and then put their 73 00:03:05.159 --> 00:03:07.719 snowmobiles over the gate, you know, in this drive up 74 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.719 Tiger Canyon Road. And so what they did is they 75 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:12.560 drove up kind of towards the top and you know, 76 00:03:12.599 --> 00:03:15.000 did their hanging out and goofing around and like they're doing, 77 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.840 just enjoying their snowmobile day. On the way back down, 78 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:21.439 herd a elk cross in front of their snowmobile, and 79 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:23.080 so they stopped for a minute and they filmed it 80 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:25.479 and everything, and then they kind of swung the camera 81 00:03:25.599 --> 00:03:29.000 up on the hill and filmed a big bull elk 82 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:30.599 up on top of the hill and kind of swung 83 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:32.120 it back around. And that was the end of it 84 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:34.639 as far as they were concerned. And then he shared 85 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:36.879 the footage with his dad, the guy I met today, 86 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:40.599 and his dad saw something in the footage in the footage. 87 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:42.240 And you know, it's like, when I heard that, my 88 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:43.960 heart sang. It's like, oh, it's one of these things. 89 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:45.520 I didn't see it at the time until I saw 90 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:47.960 into the back. I'm thinking, oh, this is gonna be Paradoia. Right, 91 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.719 it's not. It's not Paradoia. He showed. I guess when 92 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:54.719 the guys swung the camera up to the elk up 93 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:56.280 on the hill, the bull elk up on and this 94 00:03:56.360 --> 00:03:58.840 is like three hundred plus yards away probably it's a 95 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:01.800 good distance away. And I didn't even see the elk 96 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:03.960 at first. I had to watch it twice before I 97 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.159 saw the elk. He goes, Yeah, there's the elk. And 98 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:07.800 if you look over here, blah blah blah, and this 99 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:10.240 little patch of trees there right there, you can see 100 00:04:10.240 --> 00:04:12.000 it moving. And I'm thinking, oh, it's just going to 101 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:14.039 be a stump or no. No, you can see a 102 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.759 human shape figure moving through the trees. 103 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:17.600 Really. 104 00:04:17.959 --> 00:04:20.279 Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, it's not nothing to write 105 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:21.839 home about, but it's something to share with you guys, 106 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:23.959 because you guys are big foot folks like me and 107 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:27.240 get excited over small little tidbits. I don't have the footage. 108 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:28.879 There's nothing I can share or anything like that. But 109 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:31.720 I saw it and it's pretty cool, and I'm thinking, okay, 110 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.000 think of the context here. These guys are a few 111 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:38.079 miles probably up past the gate where you're not allowed 112 00:04:38.120 --> 00:04:40.680 to go, and there's snow all over the place, and 113 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:43.959 this thing is three five hundred yards up the mountain 114 00:04:44.079 --> 00:04:46.920 side on top, and it's really difficult to get to location. 115 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:48.959 The water sheds right on the other side of it 116 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:50.240 because it's Tiger Canyon Road. 117 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:52.160 You know, you got a sense of size for it. 118 00:04:52.199 --> 00:04:54.000 I looking at the el now. 119 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:56.319 It's hard to say. But the guy he is going 120 00:04:56.399 --> 00:04:59.360 to email me the footage so I can zoom in 121 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:02.160 and stable and do my sorcery with it, you know. 122 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:04.000 So I'm going to take a look at it. Maybe 123 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.639 maybe there's something else to learn, But right now I'm 124 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:08.600 not super hopeful that we were going to, you know, 125 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:11.560 squeeze a lot more information out here. But I have 126 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:16.240 the general location, I have the context, I've got the story. 127 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:19.600 I'll probably maybe contact the guy and see what he 128 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:21.360 has to say about it. But remember he didn't see 129 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:23.439 it at the time, so I'm not sure what else 130 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:25.600 I would learn from that, but I'll try anyway, because 131 00:05:25.639 --> 00:05:27.279 you never know what you're going to learn, you know. 132 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:30.519 But even before that, you know, I got you know, 133 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.399 last year, if you remember, I did that Sportsman show 134 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:36.920 here in Portland, and a couple of the people I 135 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:38.959 met there were of interest. And one of the guys 136 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:42.319 said that, oh, yeah, my friends cast some prints down 137 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:44.879 by the Shasta areas what he told me, And I said, oh, 138 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:46.879 I'd love to you know, if you ever see those people, 139 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:48.720 I'd love to see fo you know, pictures of the 140 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:51.560 cast or whatever. And you know, crickets for like the 141 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:54.160 last year. And then like two weeks ago, a week ago, 142 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:56.199 he reached out to me, I'm down here, I'm going 143 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:58.120 to see these cats. Oh great, great, once you send 144 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:02.120 me pictures. And he did. He did today and apparently 145 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:05.000 it wasn't Shasta, it was Trinity Lake. And he lives 146 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:07.800 out there somewhere, you know, like east of View somewhere, 147 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:10.639 but out in that general direction I think on probably 148 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:12.279 on the reading side of the mountains, you know what 149 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:14.959 I mean. And he's sure enough. He sent me pictures 150 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:19.160 of the cast and some pictures of photographs of the 151 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:22.360 footprints in the ground, and they are beautiful, they look 152 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.439 really really cool, and the guy's an older guy and 153 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:27.720 he doesn't want me nosing around or talking to him, 154 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:29.560 so I don't get to talk to him, unfortunately. But 155 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:31.480 at least I got the pictures of the cast. 156 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:33.199 Was there a scale reference? 157 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:34.319 Not really? 158 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:34.879 Not really? 159 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:38.240 They look pretty good size, and again it's not Unfortunately, 160 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:40.120 I didn't really ask if I could share them with, 161 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:42.040 you know, the public, so I can't really post them 162 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.240 on Patreon or anything like that, like what we normally 163 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:45.319 do about these sort of things. 164 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:46.759 You put them on Patreon. 165 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:49.120 I'll tell you what. I will text the guy and 166 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:52.040 ask him if if I can share them, and if 167 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:54.399 I can, then our members will see him. You know, 168 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:56.160 it's the bottom line. So but I'll all of a 169 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:57.879 sudden to you guys, because you're not going to go 170 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:01.199 anywhere with them. They looked very very good anyway. Yeah, 171 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:04.199 just another day in close life, chalk full of bigfoot stuff, 172 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:06.720 rushing around doing this and that, and then coming on 173 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:10.040 a podcast getting ready to hear a fantastic story from 174 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:10.800 what I understand. 175 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:14.279 Oh yeah, dude, this guy had a great, great up. 176 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:16.240 I mean, you're not going to get any closer than this, 177 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:19.639 and it's and it's just burned, is it happened a 178 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:22.240 long time ago, but it's burned into his brain and 179 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:24.600 he's you know, you'll get the sense of this guy 180 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:25.360 when you talk to him. 181 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:28.160 He's just salt of the earth, good honest person. 182 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:30.160 So well, let's get on it, man. 183 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:34.480 I met Jack back in Ohio, Kentucky, at one of 184 00:07:34.519 --> 00:07:38.000 the conferences. He's friends with Charlie Raymond, and he told 185 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:40.519 me a story that blew my mind. I was just like, 186 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:43.759 oh my gosh, this guy's he's got quite a tale 187 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:45.759 and he's a good, solid guy. 188 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:46.680 Charlie Boucher's form. 189 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:49.319 I've known him for a while and he's just a good, 190 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:52.720 you know, honest dude. So I thought you'd enjoy listening 191 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:53.040 to him. 192 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:55.360 I always loved me a good story. So yeah, gohad 193 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:57.279 and lay lay it honest, Jack. I mean, I can't. 194 00:07:57.600 --> 00:07:59.720 I'm looking forward to hearing what you have to say. 195 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:03.439 Well, I took a few notes here this afternoon when 196 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:06.600 I got in here, and I thought i'd give you 197 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:10.680 just a briefing. Odinsboro, Kentucky. It's where I was born. 198 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:14.839 It's in Davis County, Kentucky. At the age of four, 199 00:08:15.199 --> 00:08:19.399 we moved to Sargo, Kentucky, which it's in Davis County 200 00:08:19.480 --> 00:08:23.959 and it's about let's say, from the downtown Winnsboro. It 201 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:28.040 was about ten to twelve miles on the west side 202 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:32.039 of town. And yeah, when I was four of us 203 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:35.000 when we moved out there. By the time I was 204 00:08:35.039 --> 00:08:37.440 six years old, my mom and dad took the four 205 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:40.320 of us kids at that time. That's how many was 206 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:43.159 in the family, four kids, and we went on a 207 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:47.240 six week vacation. We went to al Capoco and Mexico 208 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:54.000 and went through the Alamo, through the deserts California, Redwood Forest, 209 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:59.320 Grand Canyon, Mount Rushmore, and all in between. And by 210 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:01.679 going on that trip, I know that it helped me 211 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:07.159 in my memory remember things very well. Actually, my dad, 212 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:09.639 when I was a sophomore in high school, we went 213 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:13.240 back out to Rushmore and before we got there, I said, Dad, 214 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:15.720 I said, I can tell you what that parking lot 215 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.120 looks like before we get there. And I did. And 216 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.360 he turned he said, how and the heck do you 217 00:09:20.480 --> 00:09:23.559 remember that? I said, I just, I do. I said 218 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.240 it was so awesome going out there, I said, I just. 219 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:28.360 I said. When we pulled up, I said, this is 220 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:31.559 just what I remembered. I said, it's the same thing. 221 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:34.679 He said, well, you're right. He said, well, that's hard 222 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:36.320 for me to believe, but he said, you are one 223 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:41.279 hundred percent right. Well, about nineteen sixty seven to sixty 224 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:44.840 nine in that area, we were hearing a lot of 225 00:09:44.919 --> 00:09:49.399 people talking about a big harry wildman running around and 226 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:53.399 his name was the Hermit. A matter of fact, the 227 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.639 lady that I even talked to tonight, she said, I 228 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.399 remember those years. I remember when the hermit was running 229 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:03.559 around David And she said, that's exactly what people were calling. 230 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.039 It was the hermit that in nineteen sixty eight, my dad, 231 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:13.279 he was the president of Davis County Fishing Wildlife, and 232 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:18.840 he and a cousin they were raising a lot of birds. 233 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.759 They mostly quail to get the quill population up in 234 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:27.279 Davis County, and they also raised approximately ten other types 235 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:32.200 of birds, pheasant, peacock, chuckers, just a lot of different 236 00:10:32.240 --> 00:10:35.360 wild birds, and they were releasing them into the wildlife 237 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:40.399 and we had put in the summer of sixty nine 238 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:44.799 after these birds. It took a while to get the 239 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:48.039 cages built, but we started probably in about sixty eight, 240 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:50.759 and part of my job would we go out and 241 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:53.879 feed them, make sure the water was good shape, help 242 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:59.039 build the pens, things like that. And by nineteen sixty nine, 243 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:04.080 was getting out the sixth grade. And it was June 244 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:07.519 of nineteen sixty nine and I went out to the 245 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:11.759 back porch. It was just turning dark, and I start 246 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:15.840 burning my school papers and I'm out there, well, the 247 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:20.080 sun had just went down, I mean, burning those papers 248 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:24.080 was even showing its light more so because it had 249 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:27.360 just turned dark. I was just having fun just sitting there, 250 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.559 ripping page after page, just sitting there burning them all. 251 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:35.159 This year's gone. School's out. Boy, couldn't be any better. 252 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:38.559 And by that time I start hearing the birds were 253 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:41.759 start flying from one end together, just making a little noise. 254 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:46.120 And it came to my thought that hey, we just 255 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:50.240 put the electricity out to the barn and shoot. I 256 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:52.759 turned the lights on just ten feet from where I 257 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.759 was sitting on that back porch. I went up to 258 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:58.360 hit that switch and I was able to see. Well, 259 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:00.960 when I looked out there, I'll tell you what it 260 00:12:01.159 --> 00:12:04.039 just I couldn't believe what I was seeing. The cage 261 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:09.480 was being picked up about twelve inches to eighteen inches 262 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.440 on each side, just twisting it bam bam, just going 263 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.600 to each side, and the birds were flying from one 264 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:19.720 end and right back to the other. And I yelled 265 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:22.559 out there and I said, who's out there? What's out there? 266 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:26.519 And it all stopped. The pin just stopped. There wasn't 267 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:29.639 any movement going up and down. Well, the birds kept flying, 268 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:33.879 and the birds were just all the birds around were 269 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:37.399 just making all types of noise, and you could We 270 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:40.559 had a cattle barn or very farm next to us. 271 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:45.919 The cows they were bawling, and I thought, who's out 272 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:49.559 there again? And about this time I see something real 273 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:52.960 large just walking through the dark, and I could tell 274 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:55.279 that it was very large, and it had that gate 275 00:12:55.679 --> 00:12:59.759 just like a big foot gate would walk and I thought, man, 276 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:03.000 this is this is freaking me out. I hope what 277 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:07.159 in that hat? And I'm thinking, maybe this is the 278 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:10.960 hermit that everybody's been talking about, this wild haired man. 279 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:14.840 And I was just I was scared. I went inside, 280 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:19.360 I told people, told the parents, and I didn't hear 281 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:24.000 anymore that night. Next morning went out there and there 282 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:27.960 were over five hundred birds dead in that cage and 283 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.440 blood was everwhere where they had dripped. There were a 284 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:34.960 few birds still kicking in the cage, but I'd say 285 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:37.879 ninety five better than ninety five percent of the birds 286 00:13:37.919 --> 00:13:42.399 were dead. And uh I just I told Dad what 287 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:44.799 I had seen. And I said, Dad, I don't know 288 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:47.480 what what was out there? What it was? I said, 289 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.759 it wasn't a purse, It was not a person. Dad. 290 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:54.960 I said, if it was, it was somebody huge. And 291 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:56.600 he said, well, we'll have to keep an eye on 292 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:58.879 things around here. And he said, I hope this doesn't 293 00:13:58.919 --> 00:14:05.399 happen again. And so probably about a month goes by, 294 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:11.080 and uh I was worshing laundry, and uh I went 295 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:14.440 to get some laundry out, and laundry was on one 296 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:17.440 side of the wall, and where our clothes dryer was, 297 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:21.799 there was a window. And as I turned with those 298 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:24.879 closed to open up the dryer, I looked right into 299 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:28.120 the window and this thing's looking in the window right 300 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:30.679 at me, and I old, crap. I threw the clothes 301 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.519 up in there. My sister's on the phone. The door 302 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:36.879 was opened for the utility room there and she was 303 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:39.519 sitting up on the bar. She threw the phone up 304 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:41.559 in the air and she said, I saw it. I 305 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.720 saw it too. Let's get in the bathroom and I said, 306 00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:47.720 we sat in there for an hour in that bathroom. 307 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:50.360 I said, Pat, what it is this? It is this 308 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:53.320 the hermit? And she said, I think it's the hermit. 309 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:56.639 She said that thing was harry and big and ugly, 310 00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:59.960 and I said, you're telling me. I said, I know, sister. 311 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:02.480 I said, I saw a food. I said, it's scared 312 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:04.600 the heck out of us. 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He 349 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.079 worked a lot of people back there. He was a 350 00:17:04.119 --> 00:17:08.000 big old guy, Jim Stout was his name, and that sucker, 351 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:09.759 I'll tell you what he knew how to shoot a 352 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:14.880 higher power rifle. He had mooseheads hanging in his machine shop. 353 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:19.119 He had black bear roads. He was very, very much 354 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:24.720 of a naturalist. Uh. He was just a good old guy. 355 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:31.359 And uh he had an old home place. And we 356 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:34.759 were back there watching his house in that machine shop. 357 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:39.359 Mostly it was this friend of ours that was the 358 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:42.440 one actually that had been assigned to watch it. That 359 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:44.839 me and my brother. We went back there that night 360 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:48.480 just to stay with him for one night while mister 361 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:52.240 Stout was gone to Alaska. And on that night we 362 00:17:52.359 --> 00:17:55.359 started getting hungry. It was about old It was a 363 00:17:55.359 --> 00:17:59.519 couple of hours after midnight, and it was hot and humid. 364 00:17:59.559 --> 00:18:04.640 That night it was very foggy, and the moon was 365 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:08.359 out just as bright as it could be. And we thought, well, 366 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:10.359 we'll go up to the house, which was about a 367 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:13.960 mile away, and we'll have our sister to hand some 368 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:19.759 food out to us. And so we had a dad's 369 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:23.359 Ford pickup. It was a Ford Falcon and they sat 370 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:26.759 low to the ground. It was a white just a 371 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:31.079 white standard Ford Falcon pickup and the three of us, 372 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:33.440 we hopped in the cab. I sat right in the middle, 373 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:38.480 and we pulled over. And as we pulled onto the 374 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:42.319 uh where the machine shop was, you drove about al 375 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:45.319 about a half mile down the dirt road, and it 376 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:48.240 was back in a wooded area. He had peacocks back 377 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:52.119 there as well, and then you'd make a right turn 378 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:55.920 you'd be on asphalt for maybe a half mile. And 379 00:18:56.279 --> 00:18:58.920 where our little farm was with seven acres, and we 380 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:01.799 had a lake or a small little pond. We had 381 00:19:01.799 --> 00:19:05.200 the barn. We had those birds, bird pins, things like that. 382 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:11.519 And as we came to that turn on this it 383 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:14.599 was kind of in a d shape. As we made 384 00:19:14.640 --> 00:19:18.039 that real sharp turn to come in behind the house 385 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:23.440 where this gravel road was right there at that turn, 386 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:25.880 I asked him, I said, guys, I said, did y'all 387 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:29.400 see somebody walking? I said, I sure think I saw 388 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:33.119 something that fog. I saw somebody walk in this way. 389 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.599 And they said, no, we didn't see anything. Well, he 390 00:19:36.759 --> 00:19:38.720 pulls truck up in there and he backed it in 391 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:43.039 and I go to get out with him, and he said, well, no, no, 392 00:19:43.160 --> 00:19:45.839 he said, you stay here. Well, my older brother, he's 393 00:19:45.960 --> 00:19:48.680 five years older than I am. And I said, Bill, 394 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:49.759 can I go with you? 395 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:50.160 Guys? 396 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:52.559 I said, I'd feel better going with you. He said, 397 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:55.880 you stay here. He said, if anybody comes you just 398 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:59.839 blow the horn and we'll be here real quick. He said, 399 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:02.440 locked the doors. He said, nobody's going to get you. 400 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:05.920 You're safe. I said, all right, all right, I'll do 401 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:08.480