Speaker 1: Merry Christmas from Off the Bench, presented by All Star Toyota.
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some holidays year and talk all things sports live from
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Speaker 2: Let's get this Christmas party started.
Speaker 3: Tell me.
Speaker 4: Look who's on TV. It's our guy, Chase d It's
Chase Daniel.
Speaker 5: If you don't know the ot more that I'm referencing
Matt Chase Daniel.
Speaker 4: They hate that. I like Chase Daniel.
Speaker 6: Why are you poking a bear this morning?
Speaker 4: A trolley moon?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know why he does that.
Speaker 5: Because I'm a troll. It's a bad person. Yelled at
Taylor to shut up in the middle of his doing
his job.
Speaker 4: Is that your is not your computer? I don't know.
Speaker 7: I just from up there.
Speaker 4: I just muted my computer. Probably weird.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: But no, I don't like no Chase Daniel. Matt knows him.
Speaker 8: I'm just you know, I played got four career starts
and made a lot of money, and I played like
an eighty something games and made a fraction.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah. Because he was boys with the quarterback,
I was boys with the quarterbacks too. Didn't help me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the backup quarterback is such a fascinating, fascinating like
profession to do a study on.
Speaker 4: And they're all we're in there. I know, why do
they all up there and their team? They played for
hoodies on. I didn't. I did play a while. I
know his brother, did I have such I have? I
have no idea. I know Shady played Shout out with
Sean McCoy. Shout out to him forever.
Speaker 7: That's the day I almost sent to you guys, but
I didn't want to trigger Jake because it was about
Chase Daniel. He earned forty one million dollars in his career.
It's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per pass attempt,
per attempt, like they didn't even have to be completed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Like, Okay, Kirk Cousin's making four hundred million
is kind of insane. But at least Chase Daniel making
forty I know that's what I'm saying. But at least,
like he played, he bet on himself, He proved to
be good enough where people had to give him that money.
Speaker 4: People just gave Chase them.
Speaker 7: What was the I think I think it was Chad
Hyo played three years.
Speaker 4: Chad Hinny was my draft class. He played a long time.
Speaker 7: He was a starter for a long time Miami for
a number of years. Well, no, it was. It was
a few years ago though. The Chiefs were like looking
for a quarterback to back up Mahomes because Hinney's contract
was up, and Mahomes went to the front office. He goes, no,
you got to bring Chad back. Yeah, he's like, Chad's
my guy. He helps me prepare. Like, you have to
bring him back. I mean you used to stick on
like that like it happened.
Speaker 4: No, that's why. Sure, that's every quarterback out there guy
for the most part. That's why. That's why.
Speaker 5: That's why, like with Jake was talking out, what I'm
saying is like, that's why it's such a fascinating thing
to study, because it's not just about being like, Okay,
you're you know, you're you're you're viable when you play.
It's about how do you mesh with the starter, Like
that's why Aaron Murray can never catch Onny keep getting
put on teams with Chase Daniel, and Chase was the
ultimate backup where he'd have he'd have all the like
the film cut up, ready to go. He basically the
coffee waiting on the starter in the morning, like just
doing doing all the dirty work to stay employed.
Speaker 8: The one thing for him that he didn't have that
some of the others had, like Matt. Matt had a
five hundred yard game in the NFL. So when he
got a chance to play, like it was like shine uh.
Billy Bullock, who is our quarterback in San Diego, the backup,
Like Billy for a long time had the NFL record
for most passing yards in the game he was with Tennessee. Yeah,
so like that was. And then Billy had to come
into a Divisional round game on the road against the
Colts when Philip towards a cl and Billy won that game.
Speaker 4: So like that got that got Billy like, well, it's
like years.
Speaker 5: It's like Chat, It's like Chad, like like Olviums. I
remember Chad Hinny won that playoff game. Yeah, when was that.
Speaker 4: Two years ago? Yeah?
Speaker 8: And Chad a little bit different because when he started
because he was a long time starter.
Speaker 7: But you talking about with the when they played the Browns, right, yeah, yeah,
the hitting games, So that was.
Speaker 4: It resulted in a Super Bowl tho. Yeah, yeah, because.
Speaker 5: Maybe it had to be three four years ago there.
Did y'all see the way too early? Heisman on for
twenty twenty five?
Speaker 4: I did? But won't you tell our listeners about him.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it. I mean, big time supporter, the
show elite. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This is a legend.
Speaker 5: Maybe you put him on the Hall of Fame in
the on the on the Chat Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4: Wall Yeah, on the opposite of Hunt Yes bad Take
so twenty five Heisman nods from bed online.
Speaker 5: Uh arch Manning leading the way at plus six hundred,
Garrett nussmyernumber two at plus seven hundred, John Mattier from
OU plus eight hundred, Drew Aller plus nine hundred, Nico
Iamalaiava at plus one thousand, Kate Klebnick plus eleven hundred,
Kevin J. TMESSI Mute plus twelve hundred, Lenora Sellers plus
twelve hundred, DJ Lagway plus four team. I gotta say so,
first off shows you how good the the the market
thing scared us Meyer will be next year. Those odds
probably getting a little bump with the wide receiver editions
aving gimsbow line editions probably bumping a little bit further.
I'm gonna say though, Jake, Now maybe this is a
bit prisoner to the moment, But in terms of value plays,
I like the bottom two on the list and Lagway
and sellers like sellers a lot, yeah, especially sellers, especially.
Speaker 4: Sell Yeah, Lagway, I think might be a little too
early for Lagway.
Speaker 8: Still Yeah, I think he'll take a step and I
think he'll he'll be a part of the conversation. But
for Sellers, he's there. I think he's already in that conversation.
He's nobody that at the end of the year was
was thriving. And you know, if you'd have got that
guy in a college football playoff, who knows where they
could have gone. But we will have some moments. But
I think Sellers might actually be like a true front
runner for me. Yeah, like Arch Manning, I said, Man,
I gotta see that. I mean, the talent's there, he's
had spurts. I gotta see him. Hey, this is his team.
Everybody did this.
Speaker 4: Year they didn't. I guess he didn't start like these
other guys. That that's fair.
Speaker 8: I think now that if a team goes in like, hey,
Arch is the guy we're preparing for Arch, let's see
how he handles that that good bad are different, Like,
you gotta see how he handles that. Like the rest
of the guys on that list, I've seen. Nico's a
little too high for me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean Nico, No, I mean Nico's been
Actually I found a I found a list of let
me let me look it up on a Bill Connolly
had a really fun breakdown of all the games and
like kind of interesting fact. Another thing, and I found
a list of the qbrs of all the of all
the quarterbacks in the playoffs, and not a good look
for Nico. He is by far the least good quarterback
in this Uh.
Speaker 4: This is not a quarterback playoff. No, this is a
running actually true, actually true.
Speaker 8: This is a running back playoff, which Flynn, I hope
you're still listening, Bud.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he texted us. The segment blows because Chase Daniel,
we're taking it back back to the old early nineties. EMMITTT.
Speaker 8: Smith, the Thurman Thomas's Oh yeah, yeah, running backs are king.
Speaker 4: Oh you're you're just okay, you're saying, like, screw quarterbacks. Yeah, yeah,
I agree, You've already made enough. I agree.
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, I had to go to Hr about
Matt because he kept touching my balls at practice every day.
Speaker 4: Wa Scona. No, Flynn, he just all he wouldn't say.
Speaker 5: I get there as a freshman, I show up at
seven on seven, next thing, you know, hand right up
in there.
Speaker 4: I'm like, whoa broke? I don't even know you what
you doing? You damn boy? Snap me the ball? Yes,
I have to you know he's the quarterback.
Speaker 6: Um, we didn't play his cameo video yesterday. We forgot
about it.
Speaker 4: Should we play it?
Speaker 6: It's pretty funny?
Speaker 4: Yeah, can we load that up? Have that ready to go?
Happy one hundred birthday? We know that not real money. Literally,
y'all want to know something interesting?
Speaker 5: So everybody crabs on pins Safe for being awful in
top five games, right, and I can't remember the exact
window here, maybe since twenty sixteen, but James Frangly, he's
one in fourteen against top five teams.
Speaker 4: But how about this?
Speaker 5: U notre names two and seven, Arizona States one and three,
Texas is one in eight, Tennessee's one and fifteen. Indiana
is oz for sixteen. Like they're not like I guess
I'm just saying the Penn State is not exactly out
on their own and and and and not like as
much as we want to paint James Tringers being that
not winning these big games.
Speaker 7: At Flynn.
Speaker 9: Hey, it's Matt Flynn wishing guarantee I have the one
hundred birthday.
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Speaker 6: Some much literally told exactly one.
Speaker 4: Fill the ball.
Speaker 6: I told him exactly what to say two seconds before that.
Speaker 4: Beat the ball hard. Uh.
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Speaker 4: It's but no, it's it's been. I don't know, it's been.
It's been for for uh for forever. Now for what
am I talking about? I'm sorry, I'm very struck. I
think I have to go to my daughter's Christmas play.
I'll be back. Wait you said eight thirty.
Speaker 5: I know, but now my wife's text me babysenter and
show up. I gotta go like meet her, like I
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I'll be back a little bit after night. All right, guys,
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Speaker 4: Right, welcome back in OTB one O four to five ESPN.
Ben Rouge.
Speaker 8: Hunt came down here to defend his terrible take and
it was still as bad as ever. Says he doesn't
care that Arizona State had four ranked wins. I'm rooting
for Arizona State in Boise State just so I can
come here and laugh at Hunt. Just point my finger
and laugh at Hunt.
Speaker 7: It's not just Hunt. I mean we were talking about yesterday.
I don't remember who it was. In the chat was
like everybody goes to bat for Ashton Jeant and he
only played one group of five school. It was Oregon.
It was a three point game and he also had
two hundred yards and three touchdowns. Like what are we doing.
You can't say, oh, well, he hasn't done this. The
one sample size we do he was awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah again, I said it earlier in the year.
Speaker 8: I will sit down, I will watch tape with anybody
that wants to watch it. Ashton Genty's doing things that
nobody else could do. I don't care if you don't
like who he's playing. He did it against the best
competition they've played. He's done it against everyone. That's how
you knew his name coming in to this season. Indiana
kind of falls into this category two, which is wild
because they do play in the Big Ten. So they
play in one of the two what a lot of
people call the Mega conferences, the super conferences, whatever you
want to call them. Well, Indiana plays in one of
those leagues. But because of the way scheduling and kind
of fell upon them, they didn't play Penn State, they
didn't play Oregon, and so they kind of fall into
this conversation. So if they beat Notre Dame tonight, I
mean that feels like even a little bit of you know,
kind of what we're talking about the Alabama some of
the teams that missed out, Like if Indiana wins, that
feels like they'll get one over on some of that
crowd even though they're in the Big ten, Right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would think so. And like to your point,
it's a little unfair to Indiana, right, Like it's it's
not your fault with the schedule. Like you could say
the same thing about Texas. Who did Texas play in
the SEC? It's very similar to that. But you know,
I was we were talking about James Franklin last segment.
I was thinking about it this morning. People are not
gonna say because like, what do you what do you
always hear about James Franklin. Okay, well, they can't win
big games. Do you consider a win over a SMU
a big game? I do, A lot of people aren't.
And then the winner of that plays Boise State. There's
a chance that James Franklin wins two games in the
College Football Playoff and accomplishes nothing because of it in
the eyes of a lot of people in the national media,
because they're gonna be like, Okay, great, you beat SMU
and Boise State. There's aren't big games.
Speaker 8: Yeah, unfortunately for him. Yes, which coach do we think
though has the most pressure? It's easy to say the
answer that we're probably all thinking and right, which is
wild because he probably has the best record of anybody,
even going against Kirby's record. Now Kirby's got the national championships.
I'm just talking about just overall record. If it's not
Ryan Day, though, who is it? Is it James Franklin?
Speaker 7: It might be James Franklin. Well, I gotta tell you,
I know that he's he's won it, and I go
to bat for him a lot. I think Dabo's got
a little bit of pressure on Himdabo is bet on
himself during this nil thing and transfer.
Speaker 8: And they actually got to transfer in their first ever
defensive guy out of the portal, first ever.
Speaker 4: You heard that, right.
Speaker 8: I can't decide if I'm thinking if I think Dabo's
playing with house money or if he's got like the
most pressure, Like it's odd, but I can't because he
wasn't supposed to be here.
Speaker 4: After they lost to South Carolina, that was it. It
was over.
Speaker 8: He basically said so himself. Well, then Fran Brown and
Syracuse beat Miami. They get an opportunity, they go out
against SMU, they hold on at the very end, they
kick the fifty six yarder. We all know that, So
in my mind, he is playing with a little bit
of house money. But to Clemson fans, I wonder where
they're at because they are a program that expects championships,
because he brought them championships, and because of what you
just said, Sata, they haven't done a deep dive into
the transfer portal, literally getting their first defensive guy ever
out of the transfer portal.
Speaker 4: They don't do a deep dive. They don't spend a
lot of money in the nil space.
Speaker 8: Everyone else is like, if he doesn't win, are those
fans going to be like, see, this is the ceiling.
Speaker 4: Now, this is.
Speaker 8: The best that we can do is back door our
way into the playoffs and not play for championships.
Speaker 7: They also like Clemson's an interest study. If you could
look at their season, could you can say, okay, well
they have three losses. They really only have one bad loss.
And I mean Louisville's not a terrible loss. I mean
it was at home, but you lose to Georgia and
the final score is awful. Thirty four to three is terrible.
In Week one, I get it. This is a six
to nothing game. At halftime, it was six to nothing.
You were there you were within grasp, but you played
an awful half of football. It's one of the worst
half of footballs I've seen all year. So you play
an awful half of football against Georgia, you lose to
a red hot South Carolina team by three points, a
team that nobody wanted to face at the end of
the year, and then you could argue they controlled that
game against SMU. I mean SMU had to come back
and tie it in order for Clemson to go. Mean,
Clemson was up seventeen points in that game at one point.
So it's like, what Clemson are we going to get?
At times they've looked awesome, they have the bad losses,
but I mean those losses really aren't that bad.
Speaker 4: I've been a bad football team. I think.
Speaker 8: Obviously the Georgia game and the way that second half
played out, it really set the tone for what the
expectation would our thought process was going to be for Clemson.
Speaker 4: What about Steve sarkisian Elandra So I.
Speaker 10: Actually I was actually gonna say, like, I don't think
sark has I don't think his seat.
Speaker 6: Is hot, it's warm.
Speaker 10: I don't think it's like but he he definitely has
a little bit of pressure coming off of like last year,
and like y'all mentioned earlier, he did have an easy
schedule coming into the SEC. So it's like, can you
go out there take advantage of that easy schedule with
like the two quarterbacks that are really good, that you
have this defense that is amazing too, So it's like,
can you get the big games done. It's like the
same thing with James Franklin, like can you win the
big games?
Speaker 6: Last year? Didn't win the one that he needed to Washington.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so I think if you do take that loss
to Clemson, it'll be.
Speaker 4: A little yeah Sarks.
Speaker 10: Sarks and Texas is just a little funny with like
how much leeway they give their coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Sarks the one that's kind of in a space of
his own, because I agree he does need to win
because you lost to Washington last year, and if you
go out and you lose to Clemson again, that's going
to be a very bad look. I think you need
to win one playoff game. You win one, I think
you're pretty good. Now you're going to be facing off
against Arizona State, so a lot of people are gonna
want you to win two. But also he's the one
guy that actually got Texas back. A lot of people
said they had Texas back, but they didn't really like
they had him in an okay spot. But Texas is
not okay. Texas expects to be great, right, and he
got them to that point. So I actually think that
Steve Sarkisian should get a little leeway because he's actually
got them not only in the conversation, but he's got
them in the games when nobody else, Tom Herman, Charlie Sherrong,
all these guys never got them in that spot, well.
Speaker 7: Two years in a row. But like, well, okay, what happens,
Because I agree, I don't think there should be any
pressure on Steve Sarkisian. What happens if he loses a
Clemson by fourteen points, goes in there, Quinn Heyewers plays awful,
the defense doesn't hold up like it has all year long,
Like there'll be people.
Speaker 10: Talking because I don't think like I think that there's
like a sneaky, like tiny little amount of I'm not
saying there's pressure on start, but like there's like a
little bit there because like ye last year, also those
two losses to Georgia, like the two games that were.
Speaker 7: The two games challenge.
Speaker 6: Right exactly.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Like, so those two losses to Georgia, plus if
you lose to Clemson, who we just said Dabbo might
be on the hot seat or like have pressure on him.
It just it's not people are gonna be upset about
that for sure.
Speaker 8: Of the coaches in the college Football Playoff, we're talking about,
you know, who has the most pressure, who is playing
with the most house money? Like which team do you
think you could go out there and see them? Just
at buck Wild, We're throwing flea flickers, We're doing every
double reverse passes because right now where we already are.
Speaker 4: Like it's already India, it's already good enough.
Speaker 8: Oh there's a lot of teams for me in Arizona State.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like I would say Boise State because you know, the.
Speaker 4: Boys has got a little bit more expectation.
Speaker 7: Yeah, not only that Boise He's got to be thinking
when's the next time we're back here, Like Jean's He's gone.
Like as much as we want to go out there
and play free, we got to play smart as well.
Arizona State, we talked about it. They were picked to
finish dead last in their conference. They had a point
five percent chance of winning the Big Twelve coming into
this year. Kenny Dillingham's young, he's from there, He's not
going anywhere. I mean, I imagine that. You know, it
looks like they have staying power in that conference. I
think Arizona State's the one that just house money right now.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's fair point because Boise State, you know, even
though they are.
Speaker 4: Like the class and have been the class for two decades.
Speaker 8: Of the group of five, it's like, when are we
ever going to be in a position like this, certainly
where we get the buye and we're waiting on an opponent.
Indiana Signetty didn't have a lot of pressure, But also
the same thing, like we ever have a schedule that
lines up like that. We had all these veteran players
come over from James Madison. Now it's not to say
that they can't parlay this into future success.
Speaker 4: I mean they certainly can.
Speaker 8: But what if they don't, Like, what if they don't
get the guys in recruits that they think they're going
to get SMU kind of same deal, Like SMU I
think is actually going to be on the rise. I
think SMU is about this might be the best time
that you get SMU. They got a lot of money
in Highland.
Speaker 4: With all that money, I mean they they're.
Speaker 8: Paying their way in the ACC right now. They're not
getting it checked in the conference. They're literally getting paid
and in this position by people from the school to
support the school.
Speaker 4: And you know that they're going to get a bump.
Speaker 8: I mean, who wouldn't want to go to SMU, Like
if I'm in that area, They're going to start competing
with some of these recruits that are going to other
places in the state of Tech. Like maybe not Texas
and Texas A and M right now, but TCU in Baylor,
Texas Tech like those places. Escum, he's ahead of those
places right now.
Speaker 7: It has to be absolutely yeah. I mean you have
you have Texas and Texas A and M and the SEC.
I mean the third team has to be SMU. Now
it's no longer.
Speaker 4: Texas big enough foras in Texas, You're still going to have.
Speaker 7: Some really good players well, and you have the advantage of,
like we're the one Texas team not in the sec
S while the SEC is kind of cannibalizing each other.
You can gotta sit over there in the A C.
C a little bit Uh, but no, to your point
about Indiana, Jake, I kind of agree with you. It's
like Signetti's like, hey, you know, the schedule is never
going to align to us. And also so many times
a coach comes in with low expectations and they surprise
a lot of teams. Right, the teams don't teams aren't
prepared for them. That's not going to be the case anymore.
I mean, people people know about Kirk Signetti, they know
Indiana's hopefully here to stay. So no, I gotta go
to Arizona State. Like I just I keep going back
to them. Dillingham's young, he's been at that school. I mean,
that's that's his alma mater, and that's a more winnable
conference I think, year in and year out for Arizona
State than the Big Ten.
Speaker 8: I'll give you a quick example just of how much
talent Texas has and a lot of our listeners know
this because they've seen l Schuber crew Texas or they
live in Texas. Still when htt Lashley like when they
went to watch Texas high school football, they didn't know
who Kevin Jennings really was. They went to watch another
player and Brett last year's like wait a minute, who's
the quarterback? Tell me about the quarterback. I don't care
about the guy I came here to see. I want
to know about the quarterback. So, like, nobody really knew
who Kevin Jennings was, and by the end of it,
he left with an SMU offer because like, that's the
state of Texas, and so like again, if you're third
place in that state, you're still doing really well in recruiting.
You can still build a program and then like, hey,
find your little pipelines, right, Can you get a little
bit in North Louisiana? Can you get a little bit
in South Oklahoma parts of Arkansas to you know, make
your program. And of course SMU is going to be
somebody that takes, you know, transfers in as well. I mean,
obviously it's it's going to be something where you can
benefit there. But I don't know, man, there's a lot
of coaches and a lot of programs right now that
are going to play dangerous, play free because there's a
lot of expectation on them and a lot of people
expect them to lose. Anyways, all right, we will step
away more OTB when we come back here one oh
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Off the Bench, all.
Speaker 8: Right, welcome back in to OTB one oh four five,
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Speaker 4: No t Bob for I don't know how long.
Speaker 8: Supposed to leave at eight thirty, left at eight ten,
and that so Ob is listening to Murphy, Sam and Jody.
Speaker 6: Was about to say see the text he what a loser.
Speaker 8: He text us, Oh my god, Murphy, he said, damn
he meant Sam Murphy, Sam and Jody are so good.
Speaker 4: So not only did this man leave.
Speaker 8: This show early, earlier than he said, but he's in
the car and not even giving us a listen.
Speaker 6: He's like the most disloyal person.
Speaker 4: The most I've ever met in my life ever.
Speaker 7: What I appreciated about it, he owns it, but he
knows it. He's like, yeah, he has your bonus.
Speaker 4: That man really thought that was a check he did.
Speaker 10: He texted last night and he was like, hey, I
have your bonus and I was like, no, you don't know.
Speaker 7: I was like, last year was just like the stud
the past stuff. Yeah, like you unfolded, it's like super
thin paper, Like it doesn't look like a check at all.
I opened. As soon as I opened mind, I felt it.
I don't even unfolded. I'm like, oh, this isn't a check,
it's just the stuff.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's like one of those guys where like if
we have beef with somebody that like we kind of
all know, but they're not like, you know, core members,
Like we're core members.
Speaker 4: We see each other every day.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and like if I had a problem with one
of them, kind of like the Chase Daniel thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's hear both sides. Let's let you know, let's
let both people speak here.
Speaker 8: I don't where if y'all had a problem, somebody'd be like, yeah,
screw that person.
Speaker 4: Even if we were all wrong. Yeah, screw that person
I have.
Speaker 6: I don't like Chase Daniels.
Speaker 4: Yeah right.
Speaker 7: I have a lot of opinions on football players. Shocker.
I know. I always ask you, Jake, Jake, you've probably
met this person. What's this guy? Like he tells me
they're okay, Okay, Well I'll give my a shot if
he tells me they suck and be like, I mean
that kind of makes sense. Okay, Yeah, we do that
all the time.
Speaker 8: There's nobody that I have to fight that fight for
more than my guy Danny Canal because Danny on Twitter,
I get it.
Speaker 4: I trust me.
Speaker 8: Even sometimes I'm friends with Danny, I'm like, Dany, that's
a step too far in person. Danny's awesome, great. Doing
shows with Danny is fun. He's not Twitter Danny Twitter Danny.
I don't know about Twitters. Hard to defend, very hard
to defend. But I try to get out in front
of it again because like I'm like, okay, we're colleagues.
Speaker 4: We work on.
Speaker 8: The same channel over on series six M. That's that's
the hardest one. I feel like I am John Snow
and the horses are charging right at me with that one. Yeah,
I got to get the sword out and it's like
it's going to be a battle.
Speaker 7: Well, especially where we're at right because he kind of
he kind of made his Like the first time it
was like the Twitter controversy was like, Danny Canell is
the anti SEC guy. Danny Canell hates all things SEC.
He's an acc elitist, Like we don't want to be
so like not only does he does he pop off
on Twitter? Where you live is especially tough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not easy. It is not easy. Tata, you
were telling me a story.
Speaker 8: We were talking about Kevin Jennings being found if I
read lashly just randomly going to watch a high school
game with another recruits.
Speaker 4: Actually how I got found by a coach saban.
Speaker 8: He was there to watch our quarterback at spring practice,
John David Boody, and didn't know who I was.
Speaker 4: So it's always great to hear a story like this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I was telling you Jack Tuttle, who we
all know. He's been in multiple colleges. He's in Michigan
right now. Ohio State was bringing in Jack Tuttle for
like a summer camp. They wanted to bring him in
and see him throw. He's kind of like taking a
visit and they were like, who do you want to
throw to? And he said, Hey, is it okay if
I bring my high school teammate. His high school teammate
was Chris Olave, and Chris o'lave wound up obviously getting
any scholarship from Ohio State and the rest is history.
And then I was also telling you about Kyle Trask
because when Kyle Trast took over for Felipe Franks, everybody said, hey,
why did we never heard about Kyle Trask, He's he
looks so much better than Felipe Frank's like, what's the deal.
Kyle trast never started a game in high school. He
was on the same team as Dearic King. Who Houston Miami.
We know Deerick King quarterback coach? Now, yes, yeah, Well,
so their coach wanted to run the triple option, which
is obviously way more fits Derek King's skill set than Trask. Well,
their team was really good. They were blowing guys out
and they would put in Trask in the second half
switch their offense to a spread. Dan Mullen was in
the stands and was like, well, that guy fits my offense.
Speaker 4: Who's that?
Speaker 11: So?
Speaker 7: Kyle Trausse got a scholarship all for without ever started
in high school.
Speaker 4: That is why it's kind of gosh.
Speaker 8: Who Matt Castle, who never started USC played like a
decade plus in the NFL basically Patriots. Somebody just seeing
him throw the football. I guess some camp or something combine,
whatever it might be. I always love stories like that.
There's always great like camp stories. Well, there's one Notre
Dames on the on the TV and they're talking about
them because they're playing today, which we'll get to maybe
a prediction break down of the game. One of my
favorite stories, So there was a Notre Dame football camp
and my guy, Philip Rivers went up to the camp.
And Philip wasn't like a highly recruited guy. I mean,
he had scholarship offers to play quarterback at nc State
or tight end at Auburn, like those were his two offers. Well,
he's going this Notre Dame camp and I guess it
would have been Casey Clawson that started at Tennessee for
a long time, had a pretty decent career.
Speaker 4: Well, they go to the camp. Whatever, nobody knows who
Philip is.
Speaker 8: He you know, he's got the different throwing motion and
so like everybody's kind of, you know, has their thoughts
on that. And he goes up to the camp and
he sees Casey kind of getting ready to go, and
Phillip's like, hey, you know, let's play catch, let's get
warmed up, and Casey's like looks at him, He's.
Speaker 4: Like, I don't know who you are, broh and waves
him off.
Speaker 8: Wouldn't warm up with Philip Rivers, whose potential NFL Hall
of Fame, because he didn't think he had the status.
Speaker 4: To warm up with him.
Speaker 6: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: How about that?
Speaker 7: Not the I don't know him? Not the first time
I've heard a story like that involving Casey Clawson. So
I'm not not not super surprised by that. That family.
I mean, remember remember when Jimmy the youngest was starting,
I mean, he was mister everything. He was Heisman favorite
in Notre Dame. They're like this guy and then just no,
and who was that was that? The mel Was that
the mel kiper where he said, if Jimmy Klauson he's
got a good quarterback, all retire? Yeah, I think it
was Jimmy Lawson.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 8: So there's Casey, there was Rick, who actually started his
career here at LSU, and then there was Jimmy. Is
there a better redneck name to say than Jimmy by
the way, No, I mean every time you say his Jimmy.
Speaker 4: Jimmy, it's yeah Tiers s. Tier. So yeah, that's my
my clossing story.
Speaker 8: And speaking of Notre Dame, as I mentioned, they are
playing tonight.
Speaker 4: Styles make fights. Notre Dame wants to run the football.
Speaker 8: Indiana stops to run better than anybody in the country.
Cannot wait to see which one of these styles wins out.
It is going to be in the snow, it's going
to be colder than cold, it's going to be a
nighttime game.
Speaker 4: Gosh, Notre Dame.
Speaker 8: I think maybe the first Friday home game I believe
they've ever played, and like some crazy NBC stat the
first one that's not going to be a home NBC game,
And you know have for many years. So a lot
of different things going on there in South Bend, and
you know they've got some pressure on them, like the
the last thing that you want to do. Going back
to our last segment about expectations and who's playing with
house money and who's got the most pressure, it's not
Marcus Freeman, because Marcus Freeman just got an extension.
Speaker 4: He's doing awesome things there. But just like having Indiana.
Speaker 8: Who's in your state, who's not even like a little brother,
they've been so irrelevant. They're not even little brother. They're
like your distant fourth cousin. And if they come into
if they come into your trap and take your trap,
as Kirk Thuggans would say, that's.
Speaker 4: Not a great look.
Speaker 8: I mean, you would have a really good year, but
that would include two losses against Northern Illinois and Indiana.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I mean, you know, you got a fiery
coach that kind of made waves in the main stream
with Kurt Signetti. Everybody loves him. You mentioned it. You're
in the same state, but you're also going against a
team that's in the Big Ten. I mean, they're in
in the league conference for you, for whatever reason, just
refuse to join one and remain independent. But yeah, I
mean the bigger the Big Ten gets in, the bigger
Signetti gets. If Indiana can win this game, that is
bad use for Dame because for for what a reason
you could say, okay, well, high school football in the
state of Indiana, whatever, it doesn't matter. Notre Dame gets
all those players they always have. They see a change
into the guard a little bit.
Speaker 4: Alandra, Indiana, Notre Dame, how are you feeling.
Speaker 6: I'm kind of feeling Indiana on this one.
Speaker 10: I think Kurt Signetti has obviously more experience than Marcus
Freeman does, and I think that gives him a little
bit of an edge in this game.
Speaker 6: So I kind of want to go Indiana on this one.
Speaker 8: I would love to see a big cat drill between
the two head coaches at the fifty yard line before
the game.
Speaker 11: I got.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Kurt Signetti's like he's got some piss and vinegars.
Now Marcus Freeman, he's my mea head Brethren. I played
against Marcus.
Speaker 7: That's the wattie against each other. Yeah, he was on team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I need to see.
Speaker 7: I want to pick Indiana so bad in this game
for all the reasons you just said.
Speaker 8: Does it feel weird though? Okay, so all these games
are at least a touchdown favorite. Yeah, at least they
were yesterday, and I.
Speaker 7: Think Notre Dame might actually be down a six and
a half.
Speaker 8: Okay, so it dropped a little bit since yesterday. So
everybody expects the favorites to roll in these games. But
more than any game here in the first round, there's
been late love for Indiana more than any underdog. I'm
talking about in the bets I'm talking about in the
conversation here on this show. We hear some in the
chat on off campus. It's like all the interactions we
gets like Indiana Indiana. There's a belief that Indiana's going
to go do this deal. Yeah, and that's why you
see the line change like it is. And I don't
know what the shift was, because it wasn't always like that.
But over the last probably five or six days, there's
been a big hey Indiana. I don't know if it's
people started to dive into the analytics. I don't know,
if they started to watch some tape. I don't know,
but it's been Indiana love the last couple of days.
Speaker 7: I think it's Signetti. I mean I think it's everything
we talked about because look at the other Fround games
Josh Haipel, you know a lot of people have mixed
opinions about him. We know who Ryan Day is, sarc Dabo,
Clemson Texas. They are what they are. I mean, nothing,
nothing's going to shock us in that game any outcome.
Everybody expects Penn State to roll over us. And you
the Signetti factor though, I mean, that's that's the one
coach that, like we were talking about, He's he's really
kind of become mainstream this year. A lot of people
have jumped on the Signetti bandwagon. I mean I think
that extra Signetti bump is what's getting people to side
with Indiana.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's the Signette.
Speaker 10: But like also Indiana, to me, like they dominated the
games that they won Notre Dame like it was more
of like a closer score between the games that they
won with their opponents.
Speaker 6: But I just I don't know like this one.
Speaker 10: I'm literally going strictly off vibes and Indiana's just giving
me a vibe.
Speaker 6: Kurt Signetti's given me a vibe. But he's gonna go
win that game.
Speaker 8: And we are going to find out tonight again. Playoff
action is going to be tonight. It's gonna be seven
pm local time over on ABC seven versus ten, Notre
Dame versus Indiana, and later in the show, if T
Bob does come back, we will put together a little
pontun parlay maybe maybe a little groupthink pontoon parlay of
which teams that we think are going to win, Because
you know, so few games, obviously it's gonna be a little.
Speaker 4: Bit different there.
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Speaker 8: Case all right, So last night my Bush League Bolts
took care of the Broncos. The Broncos were my team
for a couple of years, but I spent longer with
the Bush League Bolts, and so you'll know where you
know my loyalty lies. And so watching the game, and
something happened for the first time since nineteen seventy six,
and in fact, when it happened in nineteen seventy six,
it was also involving a charger. Then San Diego charger
kicker was the last kicker to make a.
Speaker 4: Fair catch free kick.
Speaker 8: And here's what it sounded like last night when it
happened again again for the first time in NFL since
nineteen seventy six, three years.
Speaker 11: Now, serving charger kicking roles for several years prior to that,
Kenny banget through on its way.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 8: So that was Dicker, the kicker, Cameron Dicker with a
fifty seven yard free kick, and so you know, it
is one of those crazy rules, and after a fair catch,
you had the option to try a free kick. Now,
oftentimes you don't see this situation pop up and if
you you know, you get the ball back, you're trying
to go score touchdowns. But the Chargers, they had fair
catch interference against them, right, so they got fifteen more yards. Actually,
Darius Davis, who you know, played down the road, believe it.
Wes fel So shout out to a local guy and
they tried it and it would look it was one
of the differences in the game. They need, oh man,
they needed some momentum going into the locker room. So
again first time it's happened since nineteen seventy six. Every
special teams coach ever, like would talk about these crazy rules.
It's kind of like the one like if a kick's
going out of bounds and you step out of bounds
and have one foot in one foot out and you
catch it, you get the ball at the forty Like
it's one of those crazy special teams rules. So Tayte Alandra,
did you all know this was actually a rule? Before
seeing it last night.
Speaker 7: I had heard about like being able to do the
free kick. I had never seen it done obviously, because
I wasn't around way back then.
Speaker 4: I was, I mean, I was negative nine.
Speaker 7: It's cool to see. I couldn't remember exactly. So it's
one of those rules You're like, I know there's a
free kick, but I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 8: How So when I got home last I saw it.
I was like, oh, yeah, okay, so here's what it is.
And again this rich Bisacia. I've got to text you.
I know you were giddy last night watching this as
many times you've told us about it. So, according to
NFL rules, if a player makes a fair catch, his
team attempt a kick from the spot rather than begin
its next possession. If the kick goes through the goal
post on the scoring end of the field, it is
worth you guessed it three points as many as a
field goal. On a fair catch kick, the ball does
not have to be snapped, and the kicker can have
a bigger running start before kicking the ball. Essentially, it's
just like a kickoff attempt with a holder instead of
a t And I was surprised, like Cameron Dicker only
took his normal three steps. I was kind of like, hey,
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And my son, who he's fifteen, and I mean, look,
he talks football, da he goes, yeah, but if you
do that, then like it's gonna maybe change you know,
how agree.
Speaker 4: You can be? Yeah exactly.
Speaker 8: So I was like, actually, it's a good point and
Dicker's certainly got the leg to make a fifty seven yarder,
So how about the rule? Yeah, And I'm surprised, like
we hadn't seen this more like right before the half,
you know, a team's backed up and you fair catch it,
you catch.
Speaker 4: It on the fifty, why not? Why not give it
a go? And I don't believe you can't return it
either is mine.
Speaker 7: It's higher percentage than hail mayor he only need three points.
I mean, if you're kicking it from the forty five
or the fifty, like, yeah, why not it's the last
play the half.
Speaker 8: You could tell like Harball like he knew it, but
he was like, I need to triple confirm that this
is a real thing. Like he had that blank look
on his face, which I loved. Jamar Ball that the
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kind of always says I love, but it was even
more so so. Yeah, first time since nineteen seventy six
the Chargers get the dub big for them as they
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that was Brandon Staley. It was certainly good to see
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