Speaker 1: Solidly anti murder. That was actually their headline.
Speaker 2: Gway, Travis and Buck Sexton today Glenn on fifty five KRC.
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Speaker 3: the vacation.
Speaker 1: There you go. Thank you Jose Jrecker for just confirming
Speaker 1: what I already knew and my listeners know. Friday, and
Speaker 1: a happy Friday to you. Got a good show coming
Speaker 1: up today. It's always good because we get Tech Friday
Speaker 1: with Dave Hatter every Friday at six thirty. Coming up
Speaker 1: at six thirty. Hijackers hijack smart smart home via Google
Speaker 1: Calendar Invite. It didn't know that could happen, did you.
Speaker 1: Cyber scams against seniors growing, and artificial intelligence of roting
Speaker 1: doctor's ability to make cancer diagnosis huh eroding, Well, that's
Speaker 1: an interesting take on it. That's why we have Dave
Speaker 1: had or around find out what that means. I've kind
Speaker 1: of figured artificial intelligence would help. You're thinking about doctors
Speaker 1: and you have a finite amount of knowledge as a doctor,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be a diagnostician, and you think about
Speaker 1: the just the thousands and thousands of books written on
Speaker 1: any given medical topic and all the ins and outs
Speaker 1: of any given particular medical condition. You know, your general practitioner.
Speaker 1: Somebody walks in, they got some problems, some symptoms or whatever,
Speaker 1: and your job is to ferret out and kind of
Speaker 1: wean it away and figure out what's the underlying conditions
Speaker 1: that are causing the symptoms. I mean there's a multitude
Speaker 1: of things that could go into that. Of course, not
Speaker 1: all doctors are equally created. Some are smarter than others,
Speaker 1: being diagnosticians, and you would think artificial intelligence boom, type
Speaker 1: in the symptom into the computer and it'll spit out
Speaker 1: some sort of you know, a list of potential options,
Speaker 1: and hey, go work your way through it. Let the
Speaker 1: computer solve everything. I've always argued that, you know, we're
Speaker 1: moving towards sort of what I'd like to call mba
Speaker 1: practice of medicine, you know, kind of like a four
Speaker 1: next loop or if then, if this is presented, then
Speaker 1: do that. The doctor's not really thinking. The doctor's relying
Speaker 1: on some other algorithm to do the thinking for him
Speaker 1: or her. So you know, I don't think we can
Speaker 1: deny that technology is going to play a larger and
Speaker 1: larger role in medicine, clearly, but you know, part of
Speaker 1: me thinks I want a doctor to be thinking and
Speaker 1: you know, existing independent of that computer, because you know, heck,
Speaker 1: someday immediate a doctor and the electricity is not going
Speaker 1: to be running. So there throws out the option of
Speaker 1: using a computer anyway. Sorry, just going on a babbling
Speaker 1: rant this morning. So we'll find out what Dave had
Speaker 1: or a third segment on that one, what exactly that means.
Speaker 1: Rick Green, Spirit Works Ministries. Rick Green, who whose life
Speaker 1: was transformed in a moment time, served prison time as
Speaker 1: a drug abuser, addicted and just decided he was going
Speaker 1: to embrace God. God spoke to him and slapped him
Speaker 1: on the face. Basically, well he did that. He had
Speaker 1: a movie produced about his life. I've seen it, a
Speaker 1: pretty good movie and it's being picked up by streaming services.
Speaker 1: So congratulations Rick on that milestone. Rick who joined the
Speaker 1: program at seven thirty to give us an update, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna well he has a message and one of
Speaker 1: the messages we need some positivity, most notably after the
Speaker 1: last several weeks, and a fine message to spring from.
Speaker 1: Since Sarah Herringer is going to join the program at
Speaker 1: eight oh five. Sarah will be in studio, Sarah, of course,
Speaker 1: I hope you know the story. Her husband Patrick was
Speaker 1: stabbed to death in there over the Rhine home. The
Speaker 1: murderer of her husband was released from prison in February
Speaker 1: on parole with an ankle monitor, cut his ankle monitor
Speaker 1: off and roamed around on this streets without knowledge of
Speaker 1: law enforcement who weren't notified that he had taken his
Speaker 1: ankle monitor off, only to kick the door into their
Speaker 1: home and stab her husband to death. I just cannot
Speaker 1: imagine the horror anyway Sarah will be talking about. She
Speaker 1: done a little bit of research. Ah, what do violent
Speaker 1: criminals and certain Ohio senators have in common? They both
Speaker 1: know ankle monitors don't track in real time, she wrote.
Speaker 1: They know because it's how they got They get away
Speaker 1: with murder. So Mordecai Black, the murderer of her late husband,
Speaker 1: got off his ankle monitor months before he murdered her husband.
Speaker 1: No real time alert, no immediate manhunt. He walked away,
Speaker 1: she writes, from supervision, and stayed free until the night
Speaker 1: he broke into our home and stabbed them to death.
Speaker 1: She had other illustrations too. Some guy named Brian Goldsby
Speaker 1: wore his ankle monitor the night he kidnapped, raped, and
Speaker 1: murdered Reagan Toakes, she says he didn't need to cut
Speaker 1: her off. He knew no one was watching in real time.
Speaker 1: His GPS trail showed every move, but it was only
Speaker 1: reviewed after she was dead.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 1: She also writes of a Johnny Grimes cut his ankle
Speaker 1: monitor off in April, vanished and on June's seventh shot
Speaker 1: and killed. Lauren Shuler stayed at large because the system
Speaker 1: isn't built to catch them when it matters. She's right,
Speaker 1: she points out, I mean, this is one of the
Speaker 1: reasons for her outspoken advocacy. Her husband's dead, and at
Speaker 1: least she's spreading awareness to the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: just because someone has an ankle monitor on, it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean really anything. And she's fighting for real time monitoring.
Speaker 1: And they're talking about that in Columbus. And what really
Speaker 1: irked me, dare I say in the five o'clock hour,
Speaker 1: really pissed me off. They had addressed this thing a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. The House passed a bill that
Speaker 1: required real time ankle monitoring, only for that to die
Speaker 1: in the Senate. Why that's the initial statement in Sarah's
Speaker 1: well letter to the public on this topic. First sentence,
Speaker 1: what do violent criminals and certain Ohio senators have in common? No,
Speaker 1: it died in the Senate. Thank you senators from the
Speaker 1: state of Ohio. Let's see if we can do it
Speaker 1: right this time. I'm sure Sarah will have a little
Speaker 1: bit excuse me to say upon that what's going? What
Speaker 1: else is going?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Here's a fun fact. And I I don't know what
Speaker 1: to make of this, except to think that maybe the
Speaker 1: water seems to me to be inviting for a change.
Speaker 1: In the city of Cincinnati, Liz Keating has pulled petitions
Speaker 1: to run for Cincinnati City Council. Deadline for to file
Speaker 1: for since a council is August twenty first. But I
Speaker 1: found this I think I viewed this as a positive development.
Speaker 1: Do you think Louis Keating would spinner wheels and waste
Speaker 1: her time having been through the process before and having
Speaker 1: lost to a Democrat unless she thought maybe the conditions
Speaker 1: were a ripe for a run and a go at
Speaker 1: it again? Is the water more inviting for Republicans in
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati? Do Republicans have a chance in
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati? I would like to think so,
Speaker 1: given everything that's going on in the Democrats, I think
Speaker 1: failure in terms of the representative representing of the city
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati and its residents. They seem to be more
Speaker 1: interested in special interest groups. But given the conditions in
Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati, I think the residents appreciate that crime is
Speaker 1: indeed a problem. It seems to me to be mismanaged.
Speaker 1: They don't follow the will of their constituentich most no,
Speaker 1: you think about the Hyde Park Square situation in bond Hill,
Speaker 1: where our elected officials ignore what the residents want. That
Speaker 1: maybe is a good time.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: I wish her all the luck in the world.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: She's a decent woman, and I think she's got some
Speaker 1: good ideas, and she's I mean, she's not radically conservative.
Speaker 1: I would say she's, you know, a thoughtful, more centrist Republican,
Speaker 1: however you want to characterize it. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: If she's willing to throw her name into the ring
Speaker 1: and go through the whole process of campaigning up until November,
Speaker 1: then maybe that is a good sign. You draw your
Speaker 1: own conclusions. Love hearing from folks too. Five on three
Speaker 1: seven four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: two to three talk pound five fifty on AT and
Speaker 1: T phones and oh yeah, the developers over in Hyde
Speaker 1: Park Square, they're willing to scrap the hotel and make
Speaker 1: other concessions. This following negotiations behind the scenes, because of
Speaker 1: course they had that ballot initiative eighteen thousand angry Hyde
Speaker 1: Park residents signing on to have that zoning proposal overturned
Speaker 1: because well it had flew in the face of what
Speaker 1: the Hyde Park residents won.
Speaker 5: Hmm.
Speaker 1: Move could eliminate the need for a potential public vote
Speaker 1: this November. These willing, these concessions that the well healed
Speaker 1: developers or well connected developers are willing to make. Colleen
Speaker 1: Reynolds partner with lobbing from DSD Advisors, who's working with
Speaker 1: the developers, we have said we are willing to remove
Speaker 1: the hotel if that's what the neighborhood and the city
Speaker 1: truly want. Well, you know that's what the neighborhood wants, Colleen,
Speaker 1: Why do you think they went through the efforts to
Speaker 1: get eighteen thousand signatures to put it on the DAN
Speaker 1: ballot this November. Apparently an email, she noted the developer's
Speaker 1: aim to heat High Park communities consistent call for increased
Speaker 1: residential units in the neighborhood that maybe sacon the hotel.
Speaker 1: Original voting plan yes approved by since city Council in
Speaker 1: a seven to two vote in spite of the anger
Speaker 1: that was expressed by the residents of Hyde Park allowed
Speaker 1: a ninety room hotel where the single story Coldwell Banker
Speaker 1: building currently sits on Erie Avenue, three hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: space underground parking garage one hundred and twenty five unit
Speaker 1: apartment complex Hyde Park residents it's on the ballot. Since
Speaker 1: that point in time, High Park neighborhood Council advocacy groups
Speaker 1: Save Hyde Park Square and their lawyers apparently meeting behind
Speaker 1: closed scores to negotiate concessions, and among those possible concessions
Speaker 1: removing the hotel and reducing both the garage capacity and
Speaker 1: the amount of ground floor retail. I got a kick
Speaker 1: out of this component. Well, what sounds like a movement
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Developers are listening to what the
Speaker 1: residents want. They realize that that ballot initiative has a
Speaker 1: strong chance of winning in November, so they've adjusted their position.
Speaker 1: This is what you do in negotiations. However, according to
Speaker 1: the spokesperson, Reynolds, any concessions by the well heeled, well
Speaker 1: connected developers likely would result in them asking for city
Speaker 1: incentives to help finance the project, saying, we understand that
Speaker 1: many of the neighborhood's requests will require public support to achieve.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: Really, private developer going to make private profits, going to
Speaker 1: make money for themselves, but it's going to require public
Speaker 1: dollars to get it accomplished. Sounds familiar to me. COVID
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Speaker 1: you have an ATMG phone. Yes, thought of you yesterday, Straker.
Speaker 1: I was driving home and uh, motorheads Killed by Death
Speaker 1: came on. Immediately, thought of you, Strak. It's it's a
Speaker 1: hilarious name. It's like that movie from the seventies, Murdered
Speaker 1: by Death, Killed by Death. Yeah, that'll do it to
Speaker 1: you three seven fifty five hundred. Feel free to call
Speaker 1: I love to hear from listeners, Well, you know, I
Speaker 1: call this progress. People who think that Donald Trump's evil
Speaker 1: Orange man, not anything accomplished, uh, and think that he's
Speaker 1: trying to kill Social Security at least, he's actually doing
Speaker 1: something too well to preserve Social Security and increase efficiency
Speaker 1: in Social Security. Actually his efforts have borne fruit. Trumped
Speaker 1: out of the other day, removing two hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: five illegal aliens from Social Security and wiping out twelve
Speaker 1: point four million names listened as being over one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty years old. Now this is something that could
Speaker 1: have been accomplished years and years ago. He also reminded
Speaker 1: folks that the Big Beautiful bill does cut tax on
Speaker 1: Social Security. So social Security recipients, you got a little
Speaker 1: love from Donald Trump anyway. So we've already kicked nearly
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty five illegal aoiens off Social Security system.
Speaker 1: Put it out many of them had already left the country,
Speaker 1: and put it out that, well, we keep sending checks
Speaker 1: to people who are not eligible for Social Security benefits.
Speaker 1: You know, we're already in a trajectory to go belly
Speaker 1: up on Social Security? Isn't it a wonderful thing that
Speaker 1: people who are not eligible are no longer getting benefits
Speaker 1: they weren't entitled to. You should be thankful for all
Speaker 1: of this. Twelve point four million names listening on Social
Speaker 1: Security database over one hundred and twenty years of age,
Speaker 1: You said, just think of that. So you had twelve
Speaker 1: point four million names, were they over one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty years old? Is that right? That's a hell of
Speaker 1: a statement, said, I've never heard of anybody at one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five. He put it out, there were
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty five thousand people roughly who were
Speaker 1: listed who are over one hundred and sixty years old.
Speaker 1: That's inefficient government, folks. I mean that should never happen.
Speaker 1: Do you think in private industry that could even possibly happen?
Speaker 1: This is just a great little, one tiny, tiny data
Speaker 1: point illustrated. They don't care. And other improvements ate the
Speaker 1: Soil Security Agency handling seventy percent more calls than last year.
Speaker 1: They lowered the average speed of an answer time by
Speaker 1: eighty percent. It was previously thirty minutes, it's now down
Speaker 1: to just six The improved use of technology has enabled
Speaker 1: ninety percent of calls to the national line to be
Speaker 1: served via automated self service options or callbacks, minimizing hold times.
Speaker 1: Average customer time weights at field office have declined twenty
Speaker 1: three percent, five times as many visitors as scheduled appointments
Speaker 1: compared to last year. Field offices fully staffed I have
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, seven day a week feater and sixty
Speaker 1: five day access to online accounts after they reduced the
Speaker 1: long standing schedule downtime of twenty nine hours per week
Speaker 1: to no downtime, which allows more than two hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty thousand more customers to access their accounts online in
Speaker 1: the first two weeks loan. I call that an improvement.
Speaker 1: Twenty six percent reduction in the backlog of initial disability
Speaker 1: claims from an all time high of last year. Average
Speaker 1: processing time cut by five days. Average waytime for a
Speaker 1: disability hearing has been cut by sixty days. Well, who
Speaker 1: has a problem with that? No one. Do these increase
Speaker 1: inefficiencies bear a political stripe? Well, one could argue that
Speaker 1: they do. It's the Republicans who got in there and
Speaker 1: cleaned house and improved efficiencies something. Apparently the numbers we're
Speaker 1: not willing or interested in doing. Meanwhile, they handwring constantly
Speaker 1: about oh my god, they're coming after your social security. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, if you improve the conditions within the department,
Speaker 1: you improve efficiencies, you ultimately save money, and you provide
Speaker 1: better customer service, giving the public a perception that their
Speaker 1: tax dollars are actually doing something. Days. The agency also
Speaker 1: identified more than one billion dollars in cost avoidance and
Speaker 1: efficiencies in just this fiscal year. They address billions of
Speaker 1: dollars in improper plant and payments. So it can be done.
Speaker 1: If we need to bring this kind of focus to
Speaker 1: all areas of government. Yes, government could be could service
Speaker 1: much more efficiently with a lot fewer people.
Speaker 4: Days.
Speaker 1: Ah, let us see, you got local stories coming out.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll hear from Tom. Don't. Oh, today's a new day,
Speaker 1: and we do have some things going on locally to
Speaker 1: talk about in addition to the ones the stories I
Speaker 1: just mentioned a moment ago. It's five twenty five right now,
Speaker 1: stick around, be right back here is or Channel nine
Speaker 1: first one and one forecasts hot and human today. Chance
Speaker 1: to pop up storms very slim. We go up to
Speaker 1: ninety degrees today, heat indecks mid nineties over night clear
Speaker 1: warm seventy tomorrow ninety two, Yes, hot and human and
Speaker 1: heat in decks of almost one hundred clear ofver night
Speaker 1: buggy in seventy one and one hundred degree heat indecks
Speaker 1: on a high of ninety three. Sunday it will be
Speaker 1: sunny and yes, it'll be humid as well, seventy three
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Speaker 1: Somebody send a search party out. Worried about tom five one, three, seven,
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Speaker 1: They beg for the beatdown. Parks down from the Hamilton
Speaker 1: County Veteran Services Commission.
Speaker 4: Hmm.
Speaker 1: She resigned writing a lot of the county commissioners. I
Speaker 1: write to inform you that I'm resigning from the Hamlin
Speaker 1: County Veteran Services Commission, effective immediately. I appreciate your appointment
Speaker 1: and proud of the work the Commission is accomplished to
Speaker 1: improve services and support for our veterans. She got appointed
Speaker 1: in January. I wonder why she stepped out. You think
Speaker 1: it's because she's taking heat because she believes that Holly,
Speaker 1: the victim in the drunken brawl who got socked in
Speaker 1: the eye colecock sucker punch, begged for that to happen. Hmmm,
Speaker 1: And thus far she has never retracted her comments. I
Speaker 1: think we've identified the problem with society's breakdown. Let's go
Speaker 1: over to well students arrested after fights outside North College
Speaker 1: Hill High School who were encouraged by their adult parents,
Speaker 1: I guess, to get engaged in a fight Courtning to
Speaker 1: Superintendent Eugene Blaylock, North College Hill High School District, he
Speaker 1: said the fist fight happened Wednesday afternoon right next to
Speaker 1: the high school. Fight involved not only students but adults.
Speaker 1: According to doctor Blaylock, he said he was able to
Speaker 1: break up the fight, but another fight between the students
Speaker 1: took place shortly after. That second fight could have been avoided,
Speaker 1: he said, if adults had intervened. Quote, they're egging them
Speaker 1: on and hand gestures, let them fight, let them fight,
Speaker 1: let them fight, hands up. And those students viciously go
Speaker 1: after each other, and there was some serious punches that
Speaker 1: were thrown close quote doctor Blaylock. Playlock said, Well, there
Speaker 1: are things in place within the district that helps students
Speaker 1: learn how to handle stress and conflict appropriately. More needs
Speaker 1: to be done at home to prevent things like this
Speaker 1: from happening. Oh yeah, I know, Joe, just like you
Speaker 1: think exactly. And here's a statement from doctor Blaylock. We
Speaker 1: have to change the mentality of the parents.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If we can deal with the mentality of the parents,
Speaker 1: I hope and pray that these students will see a
Speaker 1: better way of dealing with situations. But it has to
Speaker 1: start at home with the first teachers. Well, I think
Speaker 1: doctor Blaylock's put his thumb on the exact problem or
Speaker 1: his finger on the exact problem. We've gotten society. Well,
Speaker 1: too many parents don't care. Why is there a curfew
Speaker 1: in place this weekend? Yes, the curfew has kicked in beginning,
Speaker 1: I believe today. How is it that there is a
Speaker 1: fourteen year old running around at two o'clock in the
Speaker 1: morning or three o'clock in the morning in downtown Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: with parents oblivious to what that child is doing, where
Speaker 1: that child is Yeah, see doctor Blaylock. Apparently the students
Speaker 1: involved in the fights are going to be facing disciplinary action. Well,
Speaker 1: I hope women arrest after using a box cutter to
Speaker 1: cut another woman happening in June and Rose Lawn. Video
Speaker 1: footage help since any police identify Charnice Lewis as the
Speaker 1: suspect in the late June attack. Video shows a woman
Speaker 1: who appears to be Lewis going to Vibez Hookah bar
Speaker 1: and getting into a physical altercation with the victims. Lewis
Speaker 1: ran out of the bar in the renting road, leaving
Speaker 1: her car behind the victims. Sierra Simms, talking with local
Speaker 1: Fox nineteen, said that she was in a conflict with Lewis,
Speaker 1: who claimed Simms was carrying on a relationship with her boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Sims denied to claim. Said we began as an online
Speaker 1: harassment led to her tires being slashed. Thank you, Joe,
Speaker 1: I was waiting for it. Sims said it turned violent
Speaker 1: June twenty nine, one night, I was outside trying to
Speaker 1: enjoy myself and then I got cut. Claimed Lewis had
Speaker 1: a box cutter. She turned around to find out that yes,
Speaker 1: she was being cut at the time. Doctors told her
Speaker 1: the cut in her face narrowly missed her uh A
Speaker 1: trade Geminal Nerve said the cut on the throat could
Speaker 1: have blocked her airway if it was deeper and the
Speaker 1: cut on her arm could have left her hand paralyzed.
Speaker 1: Simms now has scarring down her cheek in the front
Speaker 1: of her neck forearm also cut. That is a significant
Speaker 1: scar runs from above her left ear all the way
Speaker 1: down the center of her neck across her cheek. Jeez wheeze.
Speaker 1: A vehicle wanted to connection with multiple shootings and since
Speaker 1: they led police on a pursuit yesterday afternoon ending in
Speaker 1: several arrests. Chervil Police Department mentioned that the officer said
Speaker 1: that the vehicle, Silver Ford Explorer, wanted for questioning a
Speaker 1: connection with two shootings in the city. Police attempted to
Speaker 1: pull the car over right near the day's end the
Speaker 1: eleven thousand block eleven, but the vehicle took off. Chervo
Speaker 1: police followed it onto I two seventy five East and
Speaker 1: I seventy one South until it exited onto Montgomery Road,
Speaker 1: hitting several other cars during the chase. Apparently, the Ford
Speaker 1: engine failed and caught fire, stopping the I stopping the
Speaker 1: card at the intersection. You know, it would have been
Speaker 1: better if it was a Tesla. Jelt the tesla being
Speaker 1: followed first into flames. Anyway, once it stopped at Orchard
Speaker 1: and Ohio Avenue and Silverton. All three suspects ran a way,
Speaker 1: but the officers caught them. No injuries reported during the chase.
Speaker 1: Police continuing the investigation. Yes, and the Eastern say it's
Speaker 1: going to be enforcing the curfew this week. Mayor, I
Speaker 1: have to have purval. So two curfew ordinances recently passed
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati will be implemented beginning today. Citywide curfew eleven
Speaker 1: pm to five am for all unaccompanied miners under the
Speaker 1: age of eighteen. Guardians of those miners see doctor Blaylock.
Speaker 1: Designated air including the Central Business District and over the
Speaker 1: Ryan will have curfew between nine pm and five am,
Speaker 1: some exceptions for all unaccompanied minors under the age of eighteen.
Speaker 1: Now that area runs from Liberty South all the way
Speaker 1: to the River and between Central Avenue or Central Parkways.
Speaker 1: The case may be all the way over to Broadway
Speaker 1: or Sycamores the case may be uh, Mayor said. Anyone
Speaker 1: who breaks the curfew will first be contacted by non
Speaker 1: law enforcement That will be the three to one one
Speaker 1: staff or members of the Collaborative Agreements Problem Solving staff.
Speaker 1: How you think Iris Rowlie's going to be picking them up,
Speaker 1: Joe whatever. For of all said, for all enforcements, CPD
Speaker 1: is trained to I love this, to ask for compliance.
Speaker 1: If that fails, to tell the person to comply, and
Speaker 1: if that fails to demand compliance, ask tell demand, do
Speaker 1: what the hell after asking telling a demand? If they
Speaker 1: do not apply, since they police can then take the
Speaker 1: miner to the newly created curfew center at Seven Hills
Speaker 1: Neighborhood Houses, where staff will then take the job up
Speaker 1: of contacting the child's parents or guardians who should see
Speaker 1: doctor Blaylock. That facility reportedly will have food, water at
Speaker 1: a safe place for them to wait until the parent
Speaker 1: or guardian can be contacted. According to provol miners who
Speaker 1: can't go home or don't have a home or taking
Speaker 1: a lighthouse. Youth and family services also closed. According to
Speaker 1: the park boards, parks are being closed beginning at nine
Speaker 1: pm all the way through six am. You cannot go
Speaker 1: to the public landing Smale, Riverfront Park, p At Park,
Speaker 1: Washington Park, or Ziegler Park. It's unclear to me if
Speaker 1: that means the curfew applies to the parks or no
Speaker 1: one's allowed at these locations. I think it may be
Speaker 1: the former, although wcp's reporting is a little well absent
Speaker 1: on that component. Five point thirty six fifty five kr
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Speaker 1: But first, Joe Strecker, offering comments during the breakdore over
Speaker 1: some logistical difficulties in enforcing the curfew which kicks in
Speaker 1: today Black Family Reunion's taking places. They got some of
Speaker 1: the parks down on the banks shut down beginning at
Speaker 1: nine pm. Now, I know there's exceptions for the curfew
Speaker 1: for certain sanctioned events and if your parents are present,
Speaker 1: but you know, he also mentioned the logistical hurdles following
Speaker 1: high school football games held within the city. You know,
Speaker 1: if they end around nine pm or so and everybody's
Speaker 1: milling around and leaving. And he asked me if my
Speaker 1: parents went to the high school football games that we
Speaker 1: were supposed to be at when we told our parents
Speaker 1: that we were at the high school football games. It
Speaker 1: was like, no, of course they didn't. They didn't have
Speaker 1: any interest in going to Cokills High School play football,
Speaker 1: so my parents were never there at those events. Anyway,
Speaker 1: We'll let them sort it out, Joe. I'm sure to
Speaker 1: go real, just like smooth, no problems whatsoever. Anyhow, let's
Speaker 1: get them the stacker stupid. We go to Madison County, Nebraska,
Speaker 1: where the traffic stop in Madison County turned into what
Speaker 1: they described as a bizarre arrest after deputies found a
Speaker 1: naked driver hauling stolen motorcycles and drugs. What Sunday, August tenth,
Speaker 1: Highway eighty one, according to the Madison County Sheriff's Office, released,
Speaker 1: deputy patrolling on that highway about one o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: we found a pickup truck fulling a flatbed trailer without
Speaker 1: functioning lights. Pickup failed to stop immediately and continued driving
Speaker 1: north after the lights went on on the emergency lights
Speaker 1: before turning east on Northeast Highway Industrial Highway pickup truck
Speaker 1: hauling two motorcycles. Deputy's approached the vehicle. They found the
Speaker 1: pickup truck driver, identified as forty seven year old Kit
Speaker 1: Pulston of Iowa, completely naked as a tradition. Pulston asked
Speaker 1: why he was naked, he stated he was hot and
Speaker 1: allergic to his own sweat. What He also told Deptie's
Speaker 1: driver's license it expired and possibly suspended, and a dispatcher
Speaker 1: did confirm it was indeed suspended, according to the Sheriff's
Speaker 1: Life Office. During the interaction, Poulston's alertness deteriorated rapidly, leading
Speaker 1: the deputy to initially request medical assistance. However, after regaining composure,
Speaker 1: Pulson arrested for driving under suspension. Also told deputies he
Speaker 1: had a pipe and dab, slang associated with marijuana concentrates.
Speaker 1: They are d joe search performing the vehicle, following items
Speaker 1: found a container with a substance believed to be the
Speaker 1: TC concentrate that i e. The DAB, a marijuana water pipe,
Speaker 1: a black pistol case containing a BB gun with obscured
Speaker 1: serial numbers, initially suspected to be a real firearm. Poulson
Speaker 1: put in the patrol car. Deputy said he resisted, dropping
Speaker 1: to the ground when he refused to move, and then
Speaker 1: refusing to move the arrival backup, Deputy Pulson transported to
Speaker 1: Madison County Jail. Motorcycles also run through dispatch. One was
Speaker 1: a black Honda gold Wing reportedly stolen. Other motorcycle a
Speaker 1: black Housackey registered to a different person but not listed
Speaker 1: as stolen. Facing multiple charges possession of controlled substance, driving
Speaker 1: into suspension, resisting arrest, and defective vehicle lighting. Surprise, he
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Speaker 1: Right back to the statue. Student, an happy Friday for you.
Speaker 1: I've got some good plans for the weekend. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is bizarre. Responding to an indecent exposure complaint, police found
Speaker 1: Anthony Smith, who's thirty two, walking around a Florida park
Speaker 1: yesterday afternoon, actually last Thursday, wearing the following women's lingerie,
Speaker 1: the bottom of which were the thong variety with mister
Speaker 1: Smith's genitals fully exposed, fake breasts, a wig of long
Speaker 1: black hair, a black mask around his face what I
Speaker 1: will delicately describe as a genital ring. I'll leave out
Speaker 1: the explanation provided by the smoking gun for what that's
Speaker 1: used for and a black foxtail protruding from his posterior.
Speaker 1: I will also not read the explanation of how it
Speaker 1: remained affixed to his body. The flag for us in
Speaker 1: this case, You're right. Joe described as working as a
Speaker 1: party slash wedding DJ. He allegedly tried to evade the
Speaker 1: police who initially discovered him inside the Indian Riverside Park
Speaker 1: and Jensen Beese apprehended near the Children's Museum. Witness of
Speaker 1: Dollar nine one one to report a suspicious individual with
Speaker 1: his sexual organs exposed was in the park to pick
Speaker 1: up their kids from a summer camp at the museum,
Speaker 1: but said that no children witnessed the event, thank god.
Speaker 1: Asked by police what was going on today, Smith reportedly
Speaker 1: said that he suffers from some sort of sexual addiction
Speaker 1: and engaged in leude behavior which arouses him. He added
Speaker 1: that quote this was not the first time he had
Speaker 1: run in and run in with law enforcement for the
Speaker 1: same kind of behavior, according to the police report. Convicted
Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen of indecent exposure resisting arrest after
Speaker 1: he was spotted naked and pleasuring himself in public. In
Speaker 1: posters comment, Smith reportedly said he does this because pornographic
Speaker 1: materials do not suffice his sexual desires. That's in quotes,
Speaker 1: and that he does not want to violate his morals
Speaker 1: whatever by having sexual relations before marriage or by using
Speaker 1: a female solely for sexual purposes. Again his words. Sentence
Speaker 1: to six months of jail back in that twenty seventeen case,
Speaker 1: told arrestling officers that he'd been arrested twice in the
Speaker 1: past for committing the same act exposure of sexual organs
Speaker 1: resisting arreth, both misdemeanor. Smith booked into the county jail
Speaker 1: where he's being held in advance of his court appearance. Jeez, Joe,
Speaker 1: you want to create a flag for him? Joe used
Speaker 1: artificial intelligence to create a flag last week. It worked
Speaker 1: really well too. Let's see a young girl slumber party
Speaker 1: abruptly ended in Lawrence and Lawrence early Sunday morning after
Speaker 1: a man entered the residence uninvited, removed his clothes, court
Speaker 1: to Lawrence Police department at two am. Officers responded to
Speaker 1: the neighborhood near the intersection of West twenty first in
Speaker 1: Louisiana Street finding several young girls and supervising adults. Extremely upset.
Speaker 1: Officers then learned two girls who were asleep on the
Speaker 1: couch allegedly woke to see a naked man in their home.
Speaker 1: Girls called for adults. Naked guy, who police have not
Speaker 1: yet identified, traveled to the back bedrooms where another man
Speaker 1: forced him out of the residence. Team of officers arrest
Speaker 1: of the man nearby. Another team worked to call m
Speaker 1: the children to get the details about the incidents. Officers
Speaker 1: have no reason to believe naked guy knew anyone in
Speaker 1: the residence. Uh Seattle Beach back to Florida. Forty three
Speaker 1: ye old man facing a felony charge of police see
Speaker 1: he deliberately posted sexually explicit photographs of a woman in
Speaker 1: public areas of a local public store a court of
Speaker 1: the Seattle Beach Police Department. Officers showed up with the
Speaker 1: publics on the Highway A one A after multiple nude
Speaker 1: images of the victim were discovered, taped or placed throughout
Speaker 1: the store. Photographs were printed on postcard style paper found
Speaker 1: in shopping carts, the men's restroom, the soda island outdoor
Speaker 1: merchandise been Investigators say the images were private photos. The
Speaker 1: victim had previously shared with Christopher Stamen during their relationship,
Speaker 1: told police she never gave consent for the pictures to
Speaker 1: be distributed or publicly displayed. Okay, what do we learn
Speaker 1: from this? Don't do that. You never know if your
Speaker 1: relationship is going to go sideways. Now do you just away?
Speaker 1: Just don't take the picture. One of the image described
Speaker 1: to the rest report as sexually explicit, uh depicted the victim. Well,
Speaker 1: I won't read what they she was doing. Just engage
Speaker 1: in an act of pleasure in yourself. Officers know the
Speaker 1: materials were place in areas where they would be visible
Speaker 1: to the general public, including minors, with the apparent intent
Speaker 1: to cause the victim embarrassment and emotional distress. Store surveillance
Speaker 1: video showed this Stamen guy entering the publics on two
Speaker 1: separate occasions, appearing to conceal his identity to avoid and
Speaker 1: avoiding certain parts of the store. Later seen walking toward
Speaker 1: the child kart area carrying an item, catching the size
Speaker 1: and appearance of the recovered photographs. Stamen later observed leaving
Speaker 1: the store and driving away into blue Mitsubishi cameras did
Speaker 1: not capture h physically placing the images. The location inside
Speaker 1: the store strongly supported his supported his involvement. However, in
Speaker 1: the placement of those images, victim identified Statemen from surveillance
Speaker 1: footage and also told police about a recent custody dispute,
Speaker 1: which she thought was a motivating factor. Further described a
Speaker 1: history of similar incidents in which Stamen allegedly distributed nude
Speaker 1: images of her without consent, probably cause to arrest him
Speaker 1: on one kind of sexual cyber harassment under a Florida
Speaker 1: statute involving that third degree felony punishable way up to
Speaker 1: five years in prison. Five fifty five. Do you I
Speaker 1: have kere Se detalk station. Remember, once it's digitally photographed,
Speaker 1: it's out there. It's never going away. Tech Friday coming
Speaker 1: up and an early happy anniversary to tech Friday's Day Hatter.
Speaker 1: He celebrated his thirty second anniversary yesterday. We'll hear about
Speaker 1: hijackers hijacking a smart home via Google Google Calendar invite.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. That'll be our first topic with tech Friday's Day.
Speaker 1: Have had are coming up at six thirty Feel free
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Speaker 1: Fifty five krs the talk station de talk station at
Speaker 1: Gee Friday, Tech Friday with Dave Adder, Bottom of the
Speaker 1: hour and hijackers hijacked a smart home using a Google calendar.
Speaker 1: Internet of Things right, Dave Adder. Cyber scams against seniors
Speaker 1: are growing, and artificial intelligence claiming to erode a doctor's
Speaker 1: ability to make cancer diagnosis. Those are our topics of
Speaker 1: conversation coming up at the bottom of the hour. Fast
Speaker 1: forward to seven thirty. Rick Green, He's got a powerful
Speaker 1: spiritual message spirit Workministries dot com or Greens organization. He
Speaker 1: does charitable work every single week kend of downtown Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: serving up sandwiches to folks who don't have food. He
Speaker 1: has a movie out about his life. It was made
Speaker 1: after his story came out. He had this amazing instantaneous transportation,
Speaker 1: going from a man addicted to drugs and alcohol and
Speaker 1: serving time in prison too being touched by the hand
Speaker 1: of God. I guess is kind of a boiled down way.
Speaker 1: Rick describes what happened to him just this moment of
Speaker 1: instant transformation. He never did drugs again. He turned his
Speaker 1: life around, happily married, helping folks in the community out
Speaker 1: and of course a powerful story made into a movie
Speaker 1: which has now been picked up by streaming services. We'll
Speaker 1: hear from Rick about that development, but also his message
Speaker 1: about needing more positivity after the last several weeks, or
Speaker 1: you could even argue years positive message from Rick Green.
Speaker 1: That'll be at seven point thirty, followed by Sarah Herringer.
Speaker 1: She'll be in studio. Sarah, of course, the widow she
Speaker 1: lost her husband, Patrick Herringer, who was stabbed to death
Speaker 1: in there over the Rhine home, mainly because well, an
Speaker 1: evil person existed. That evil person had an ankle monitor
Speaker 1: on was supposed to be monitored by those who monitor
Speaker 1: ankle bracelets, but apparently no one is monitoring them. He
Speaker 1: was out for months before this murder happened, and she
Speaker 1: asked the simple question why and how now this is?
Speaker 1: We learned from Sarah's just tragic experience that well, no
Speaker 1: one monitors the ankle bracelets and what irks her and
Speaker 1: she wrote about in an open letter. She talked about
Speaker 1: the various illustrations and other instances where people had ankle
Speaker 1: monitors on that weren't monitor or cut them off and
Speaker 1: weren't monitored, and went off to commit horrific crimes like
Speaker 1: Mordecai Black did and killing her husband. But thanks to
Speaker 1: reporting and looking into this, Ohio, we found out Ohio
Speaker 1: already had a chance to fix the problem there was.
Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty two, the House passed House Bill
Speaker 1: one sixty six in a ninety two to one vote vote,
Speaker 1: which would give law enforcement live GPS access and instant alerts.
Speaker 1: Is there anything wrong with that? That's exactly what I
Speaker 1: think everybody, including me thought, was really going on. What's
Speaker 1: the point of an ankle monitor If no one's monitoring
Speaker 1: the ankle monitors, It's like duh. So look, they realized
Speaker 1: it was a problem, they went to the whole legislative process.
Speaker 1: They actually got a bill passed in the House under
Speaker 1: almost one hundred percent bipartisan passage. What happened, It died
Speaker 1: in the Senate Judiciary Committee with no vote. I am
Speaker 1: going to do that, Joe Strecker, because Sarah Herringer identified
Speaker 1: the senators who were on the Senate Judiciary Committee who
Speaker 1: didn't vote on this and it died. Nathan Manning, Republican Chair,
Speaker 1: Michael Reynolds, Republican Vice Chair, Lewis Blessing, Republican Alan Kutrona Republican,
Speaker 1: Teresa Gavroni Republican, Paul Hicks Hudson Democrat, and Kent Smith Democrat.
Speaker 1: So this fall in honor of her late husband, they
Speaker 1: have teed up the Patrick Herringer Act. It'll be before
Speaker 1: the Senate, and as she writes, we will be watching
Speaker 1: every single memor And for those of you planning to
Speaker 1: vote no because you think it costs too much, look
Speaker 1: me in the eye and tell me the cost I
Speaker 1: paid wasn't worth guarding with your vote in your life.
Speaker 1: Passionate woman she is. She writes that Patrick Herringerach won't
Speaker 1: undo what's been done to me, to Reagan's family, or
Speaker 1: to Laurence the other two people who lost loved ones
Speaker 1: because people weren't being monitored, but it will slam shut
Speaker 1: one of the easiest doors for violent offenders to walk through.
Speaker 1: That has to happen. One percent. Amen to Sarah Herringer again.
Speaker 1: She'll be on in the program in the studio at
Speaker 1: eight oh five talk about that and have any community
Speaker 1: officials elected officials reached out to Sarah and talked to
Speaker 1: her and asked for her, asked her how she's doing,
Speaker 1: talked to her about her potential solutions to the problem,
Speaker 1: what her life was like as she lived. She and
Speaker 1: her husband Patrick lived in Over the Rhine had their
Speaker 1: business broken into multiple times, like other businesses in the area.
Speaker 1: Last time she was on the program, she recounted in
Speaker 1: multiple experiences about business owners and residents and Over the
Speaker 1: Rhine experiencing the problem of crime, which, of course the
Speaker 1: mayor and other elected officials in the city want to
Speaker 1: make go away by not talking about it or telling
Speaker 1: you it's your just perception. It's not real. Now to Sarah,
Speaker 1: it's as real as it gets. Let's gore the phone
Speaker 1: and see what Mississippi. James, Guy, James, welcome back to
Speaker 1: the Morning Show. Always good to hear from you, my friend.
Speaker 7: Good morning doctor Brian. I come in peace, love everybout it,
Speaker 7: and there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do anything about that attitude, James.
Speaker 1: It's a good one.
Speaker 5: Hey.
Speaker 7: I'm looking forward with your seven there that you getting supposed.
Speaker 1: To call in. Rick is a good man.
Speaker 7: Now, you know, we look at I always say, was
Speaker 7: I always say with spiritual beings going through human experience,
Speaker 7: and I think we got to get back to that
Speaker 7: spiritual part and the human experience. We got going through
Speaker 7: identified six of them and real quick, politics, justice system, education, finance,
Speaker 7: medical system, and the last one being the religion system.
Speaker 7: You know, every religion system.
Speaker 5: Cares a whole lot of power.
Speaker 7: For a whole lot of different people, and it's man made,
Speaker 7: can be man manipulated. So yeah, who in control at
Speaker 7: the time that leads? Yeah, and I said religion. Now
Speaker 7: I didn't say the spiritual part.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
Speaker 7: No, no, no.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what you're talking about, James.
Speaker 7: Right, you may do, but a lot of listener may be,
Speaker 7: you know, on different wavelengths. That's going to clear it
Speaker 7: up over the air.
Speaker 1: Well, think all people knew is to think about various
Speaker 1: religious leaders over the centuries who have been corrupt themselves,
Speaker 1: using religion to manipulate the religious population that looks up
Speaker 1: to those religious figures for their own personal interest or
Speaker 1: other nefarious purposes. That's been going on since the dawn
Speaker 1: of religion, James, I'll just put a point on it.
Speaker 7: I agree, because it carries a lot of power. You know,
Speaker 7: even when they served up that blond hair, blue eyed,
Speaker 7: pale skin, Jesus, you know, have come out of power,
Speaker 7: and that led to a lot of white supremacy because
Speaker 7: it was like, Okay, this is Jesus. You know, this
Speaker 7: is the white Jesus. Yeah, so opposit is he's black,
Speaker 7: he must be the death. So we've been demonized so bad,
Speaker 7: you know, demonize, marginalize, manipulated, tricked. But hey, some of
Speaker 7: us had opportunity to make it better for the black
Speaker 7: but then we got selfish. You know. You look at
Speaker 7: the stuff and I sit down and think, I say,
Speaker 7: since the sixties, and I do believe a lot of
Speaker 7: white people haven't been upset since the sixties, when the
Speaker 7: government intervened and tried to put some programs in place
Speaker 7: to correct some of the perceive wrong. I said perceived,
Speaker 7: because everybody don't say it's wrong, but some of us
Speaker 7: that the perceive it was wrong. Some program was put
Speaker 7: in place, and our personally had talks with black people
Speaker 7: that said, hey, I got mine, the rest of them
Speaker 7: betty get theirs. Well, that's not the reason it was
Speaker 7: put in place. It was put in place to help
Speaker 7: each other keep moving along. But then we got related
Speaker 7: by some of them's system and went out and bought
Speaker 7: the next biggest house, the biggest car, the biggest boat.
Speaker 7: And now you're in the finance system. Now you got
Speaker 7: a big bar and steel to try to keep up
Speaker 7: this this image you have created. Yes, if you have
Speaker 7: created a different image, you could have helped a multitude
Speaker 7: of peoples.
Speaker 1: That is true. Yeah, you buy into the commercialization reality.
Speaker 1: You have to have this, you need that. You're not
Speaker 1: somebody unless you own something. Yeah, we all get manipulated
Speaker 1: by that. You know. Some people say that capitalism is
Speaker 1: to blame for that mentality, but you know, you can
Speaker 1: live in a capitalist society and still have this idea
Speaker 1: that no, you don't need that many stuff and things.
Speaker 1: You can be content, most utably, if you have a
Speaker 1: spiritual grounding, you can find content without material things.
Speaker 7: James, Now you look back at the at the PowerBook.
Speaker 7: What two fish and five loads of bread that's supposed
Speaker 7: to fit multitude of people, Whether that's true or not.
Speaker 7: But like I say, some of the program that was
Speaker 7: put in place in the sixties US black people could
Speaker 7: have fed a multitude of people's black, white, brown, yellow, red.
Speaker 7: But ay, when we got to that greed part, you know,
Speaker 7: and begin to pack it in. Now you leave the
Speaker 7: other peoples out there that were maybe wasn't as fortunate
Speaker 7: as you was to connect to it. And I look
Speaker 7: at that up and down the scale. You know, we
Speaker 7: can talk about blue collar crime, what about the white
Speaker 7: collar crime, We can talk about social welfare, what about
Speaker 7: corporate welfare. Until we get into an environment where we're
Speaker 7: doing an honest you know, not emotional, but try to
Speaker 7: come up with an honest discussion, well people can see
Speaker 7: word they fit in and why they fit in, and
Speaker 7: you know, just hey, we just got to keep truggeting
Speaker 7: at it. You know, maybe one day to come to peace.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll keep our fingers crossed. James appreciate your comments
Speaker 1: as always. Hope you have a wonderful weekend. I do,
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that spiritual element. Coming up with
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Speaker 1: or holding over the break there, Welcome to the morning show.
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, I will poke the mayor. And it's Friday,
Speaker 8: the day you're angry because you get to sleep tomorrow.
Speaker 8: But I called you up on a Friday.
Speaker 5: Anyway.
Speaker 8: I know that's al. He's taking a chance very quickly,
Speaker 8: an honor to follow Mississippi James and precede Cribbage Mike.
Speaker 8: I've met them both at listener Lunch. Very nice guys. Really,
Speaker 8: you know, I've been to three of those. I don't
Speaker 8: go to you know, obviously I don't go to them all,
Speaker 8: but occasionally I go to one fun time, so I
Speaker 8: enjoy that. Rick Green. I hear him every Saturday with
Speaker 8: Gary Jeff Walker. He always does a Bible verse that
Speaker 8: he talks about. There is a joy in that man's
Speaker 8: voice that cannot be fake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is so.
Speaker 8: He is so genuine. I've never met him. You can
Speaker 8: just hear it in his voice, how truly blessed by
Speaker 8: God he is, so I enjoy listening to him. Let
Speaker 8: me get to my point. You said, why do they
Speaker 8: put ankle monitors on people when they know they don't work.
Speaker 8: I called you on this before, or I saw a
Speaker 8: dateline they put the ankle monitor on a third party
Speaker 8: monitors this. It's like a fingerprint left at the crime.
Speaker 8: After they come back and kill somebody, they said, Okay,
Speaker 8: he was here, you know, we tracked him here or whatever. Right,
Speaker 8: So why do they do it? The same reason they
Speaker 8: have airport security. It makes people feel like something's being done.
Speaker 1: Until they find out that nothing is being done.
Speaker 8: Steve, Well, very little is being done. In other words,
Speaker 8: I have a job at the airport. Security is something
Speaker 8: that looks like, hey, we're all safe. Yes, it screens
Speaker 8: out you know, the dufices that you know whatever they
Speaker 8: brought a n ail file on by mistake or whatever whatever,
Speaker 8: you know, I mean, and it could catch somebody. But
Speaker 8: if you're serious about wanting to do something, get something
Speaker 8: on an airplane. Not hard to do. You get a
Speaker 8: job at the airport. There are ways to get to
Speaker 8: the area you're not supposed to be able to get
Speaker 8: to without going through security, and you can do it
Speaker 8: without going through security.
Speaker 7: So you just get a.
Speaker 8: Job at the airport. It's not hard to do. Everybody recognize, Hey,
Speaker 8: there are so and so, and be the be the
Speaker 8: custodian that has access to you know, every lock door
Speaker 8: there is, and nobody pays attention to. But yeah, the
Speaker 8: ankle monitor thing, it's a joke. They know these people
Speaker 8: are still a threat to society. They turn them loose anyway,
Speaker 8: they're pretending they're doing something to help us enjoy your weekend.
Speaker 1: Care me good to hear from you. Steve and Sarah
Speaker 1: Herringer will be in studio to talk about that and
Speaker 1: bringing it to everybody's attention that, yeah, you shouldn't feel
Speaker 1: good about the ankle monitor program because well they're not
Speaker 1: monitoring them. Courbage, Mike, Welcome back to the Morning Show,
Speaker 1: My submarine or friend coome on.
Speaker 9: Brian pops right back to Steve too. You know, just
Speaker 9: another reason why anybody has never been to a listener lunch.
Speaker 1: You've got to come.
Speaker 9: I would like to congratulate the assistant prosecutor who, in
Speaker 9: open court yesterday dispelled the narrative that the quote unquote
Speaker 9: black leaders held on Tuesday, And even if it was true,
Speaker 9: their whole premise was ridiculous that the fact that that
Speaker 9: justified what happened in the street. But once again, when
Speaker 9: you go out of your way to twist the truth
Speaker 9: to fit a narrative, and you're the one that looks
Speaker 9: like a fool. So you can add that press conference
Speaker 9: they held tuesday on the heap of Tawana Brawley, Duke
Speaker 9: Lacrosse and Michael Brown. Hands up, don't shoot because maybe
Speaker 9: I missed it, but I didn't see any of those
Speaker 9: so called leaders at Iris's rollies pep reality there on
Speaker 9: the steps of city Hall, So maybe they learned their lesson.
Speaker 9: Take a couple step back, pump the brakes, wait for
Speaker 9: the facts to come out.
Speaker 1: Indeed, a lot of facts came out of yesterday's hearing
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Speaker 4: Always my pleasure, Brian, I look forward to it every week.
Speaker 1: Hey, Internet of Things, I'm guessing that's involved in the
Speaker 1: first time. What have we learned from Dave? Stay the
Speaker 1: hell away from Internet of Things devices. You don't need them,
Speaker 1: You never had them before. Why do you think you
Speaker 1: need an internet connected coffee maker? Anyway? So hijackers hijacked
Speaker 1: an entire smart home using an interesting vehicle to do
Speaker 1: it too.
Speaker 4: And this is not at all surprising to me. I'm
Speaker 4: surprised it's taken this long. So it's it's interesting, Brian,
Speaker 4: because you know, in the past couple of months, a
Speaker 4: lot of the bloom has started to come off the
Speaker 4: AI rows. You're starting to see more and more articles
Speaker 4: and reporting on issues with AI. We're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 4: talk about another topic related to that here in a minute.
Speaker 4: And you know, one of the concerns I've had since
Speaker 4: AI has become a thing that regular people interact with
Speaker 4: is that when you couple AI and the fact that
Speaker 4: it can generate content and now thanks to augentic AI
Speaker 4: or AI agents, some people will use one or the
Speaker 4: other term for essentially the same thing. The idea that
Speaker 4: it's not just me sitting at a computer entering prompts,
Speaker 4: you know, asking an AI like groc to do something
Speaker 4: for me. I can build an agent that will just
Speaker 4: act on its own to some extent, right, And we've
Speaker 4: we've now started to see examples where that started to
Speaker 4: go off the rails a little bit. And the bottom
Speaker 4: line before I get to the main point here, is,
Speaker 4: you know, as long as these tools hallucinate, right, that's
Speaker 4: a technical term. Sometimes people will call it confabulate. They
Speaker 4: just make things up. As long as that happens at
Speaker 4: a rate more than let's say, point one percent, can
Speaker 4: you really trust it to do anything of any real significance,
Speaker 4: especially on its own in an autonomous fashion. You know,
Speaker 4: if the hallucineration rate is let's say twenty percent or
Speaker 4: even ten percent, are you going to allow it to
Speaker 4: take action on behalf of your business, like transfer money
Speaker 4: around or something. You know, if the ten percent of
Speaker 4: the time it makes a mistake and one time it
Speaker 4: trains all the money out of your bank account, well
Speaker 4: that's a real problem. Right. So again I want to
Speaker 4: be clear, I'm not against this stuff, and I'm not
Speaker 4: saying it doesn't have value, because it does. But you
Speaker 4: have to understand what it can and can't do. And again,
Speaker 4: my real concern is when you know the limitations and
Speaker 4: you see people doing things with it that don't make sense,
Speaker 4: including like connecting it to things like Internet of Things devices,
Speaker 4: I just see nothing but problems. And you know, Brian,
Speaker 4: I've been on the Internet of Things aka smart devices,
Speaker 4: smart TV, smart coffee makers, refrigerators, et cetera. For a
Speaker 4: long time. And it's not that I'm necessarily against them either.
Speaker 4: It's that they're not designed with your privacy and security
Speaker 4: in mind. They're designed with speed to market, market charities
Speaker 4: of use in mind. And much of the stuff is
Speaker 4: cheap junk coming from China. Where you can't be sure
Speaker 4: the software doesn't have back doors in it, then you
Speaker 4: can be sure that in two or three years you
Speaker 4: won't be getting software updates for those devices anymore. People
Speaker 4: don't know how to set them up right, they don't
Speaker 4: know how to configure them securely, they don't know how
Speaker 4: to keep them secure and that sort of thing. So
Speaker 4: it's to me, Brian, this is a perfect example of
Speaker 4: like your peanut butter is on my chocolate, know your
Speaker 4: chocolate's on my peanut butter?
Speaker 1: Are bad?
Speaker 4: So now we're going to take AI and combine it
Speaker 4: with the smart devices that are inherently insecure, and bad
Speaker 4: things will happen. I guarantee it. And now Wired did
Speaker 4: this story you read the headline. In this particular case,
Speaker 4: hackers used Gemini, which is AI from Google, and they
Speaker 4: used it to attack a calendar invite and eventually took
Speaker 4: over all the devices at a quote smart home unquote. Now,
Speaker 4: I would call a smart home dumb because, and I
Speaker 4: encourage folks, I know a lot of this will sound
Speaker 4: far fetched to people who don't research this, don't have
Speaker 4: these devices, haven't really thought through the possible consequences. And again, Brian,
Speaker 4: I'm not totally against a quote smart home. At some
Speaker 4: future point, living in a world like the Jetson's, for example,
Speaker 4: would be nice if you could trust everything to behave
Speaker 4: as it's supposed to and you knew how to configure
Speaker 4: it correctly it was secured by design, that sort of thing.
Speaker 4: But that's not the case. This stuff is all still
Speaker 4: on its infancy. And imagine there's a Black Mirror episode
Speaker 4: I don't remember which one. I encourage people to go
Speaker 4: find it where a woman lives at a smart home
Speaker 4: and it's just kind of goes crazy and starts doing
Speaker 4: all kinds of irritating things like imagine if your smoke
Speaker 4: detector started going off and you couldn't shut it off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Or imagine or if you're living in the Jetson's
Speaker 1: home and Rosie the robotic maid comes unleash because the
Speaker 1: Chinese commingist party hacked into her and she attacks you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's even better. Instead of Rosie just being the
Speaker 4: friendly maid, suddenly there's Rosy with a big butcher knife
Speaker 4: chased me down the house. Yeah. Or or but on
Speaker 4: a more serious note, again, take the robots out of it,
Speaker 4: take physical agency out of it. Imagine whether it's hackers again,
Speaker 4: hackers using AI to try to attack your smart home.
Speaker 4: You know, you know what the winner's like here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4: Imagine in the coldest week of winter, suddenly your furnace
Speaker 4: won't work right. I mean, that's it's a real problem.
Speaker 4: Could it be deadly? Perhaps? It certainly could cause an
Speaker 4: enormous amount of damage when the pipes in your house
Speaker 4: freeze and then burst again. I know this stuff sounds
Speaker 4: far affetched. Brian Well I never.
Speaker 1: Thinking about a story that really actually happened. That's that's
Speaker 1: not the thing, you know, it's real. I'm not making
Speaker 1: this stuff up. There are documented examples of this kind
Speaker 1: of thing, and it's easy for me, as someone who's
Speaker 1: done this for as long as I have to to
Speaker 1: see the flaws in the systems we currently have and
Speaker 1: to be able to speculate, you know, throw your smart
Speaker 1: car in there.
Speaker 4: We've talked about this before. Brian, and there have been
Speaker 4: many people raising the alarm about autonomous vehicles, smart vehicles,
Speaker 4: you know, the idea that they could be weaponized. And
Speaker 4: as you think about smart vehicles coming from China, let's say,
Speaker 4: where again they have back doors that could be taken over. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it is entirely in the realm of possibility. I'm not
Speaker 4: saying it's likely or probable, but I'm saying it's possible
Speaker 4: that hackers could take a single manufacturer's cars and turn
Speaker 4: them all into weapons. Right at five pm on Friday,
Speaker 4: every model of this type of car made after this
Speaker 4: time will just become a weapon. It'll just accelerate uncontrollably.
Speaker 4: That's where we're going with all of this stuff. And
Speaker 4: again it's not that it's necessarily bad, it's we are
Speaker 4: moving very quickly and the right incentives to build things
Speaker 4: that are secured by design or not in place. You know,
Speaker 4: people want to be first, they want market share, they
Speaker 4: need to make it easy to use for the average consumer.
Speaker 4: And as a result, all of this stuff is complete garbage.
Speaker 4: And that's why constantly telling people you should not buy
Speaker 4: this stuff, you should get rid of what you have.
Speaker 4: I get it's hard to find things that aren't quote
Speaker 4: smart unquote anymore. But you know, until we get serious
Speaker 4: about privacy and security in these devices, we're putting ourselves,
Speaker 4: our families, and our organizations at increasing risk by buying
Speaker 4: this garbage and especially connecting it to AI that could
Speaker 4: potentially control it. It's not good.
Speaker 1: It's not good.
Speaker 4: Get and I have none of it?
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Speaker 1: dot Com. I thought it couldn't get any worse for
Speaker 1: seniors being the targets of cyber scams. I guess it's
Speaker 1: getting worse. Dave hatter Well.
Speaker 4: Sally Brian it is and uh yeah, not shocking. And
Speaker 4: before we get too deep into that, I meant to
Speaker 4: mention this in the last segment. And for god, I
Speaker 4: found a great as it pertains to IoT the Internet
Speaker 4: of Things, a great post on Twitter slash x many
Speaker 4: years ago. Whenever I do in person presentations, I always
Speaker 4: use this so and I wish I would have come
Speaker 4: up with us myself. It's this guy just post tech enthusiasts.
Speaker 4: My entire house is smart kind again going back to
Speaker 4: this idea of the smart home that was hacked and
Speaker 4: then tech workers. The only piece of technology my house
Speaker 4: is a printer, and I keep a gun next to
Speaker 4: it so I can shoot it if it makes a noise.
Speaker 4: I don't recognize. Be that guy.
Speaker 1: Be that guy? Amen? Amen.
Speaker 4: So. So this is reporting from the Cyber Insurance News,
Speaker 4: and I think it's so important to remind folks that,
Speaker 4: you know, you have seniors out there who are not
Speaker 4: nearly as familiar with this technologies younger people. Now that's
Speaker 4: not to say younger people aren't being attacked clearly either,
Speaker 4: but you know, you see things like the grandparents scam,
Speaker 4: and you know, I know that has been reported on
Speaker 4: here locally. You know, I've done some testing with some
Speaker 4: of this voice cloning stuff. People don't realize that. Again,
Speaker 4: AI playing a role in this type of scam is increasing.
Speaker 4: I think you and I may have talked about in
Speaker 4: the past. The Ferrari cfo CEO voice cloning. I want
Speaker 4: to be really clear to people. Again, I know some
Speaker 4: of this stuff sounds far fetched. Anyone listening to you
Speaker 4: today can go online into a search, find a site
Speaker 4: that will allow you to clone a voice for free.
Speaker 4: Now how good will it be? That depends on the site,
Speaker 4: and it depends on how good the training is on it.
Speaker 4: And when people say, well, how would you get my
Speaker 4: voice to steal my voice if I call your phone,
Speaker 4: do you have a voicemail greeting? Because if you do,
Speaker 4: I can record that, feed that into one of these
Speaker 4: voice cloning models, and in less than an hour, I
Speaker 4: can sit out a computer type what I want to
Speaker 4: say and it will play it in your voice. Yep,
Speaker 4: I've done this personally. I know it's real, so this
Speaker 4: isn't speculation. I have tested this myself.
Speaker 1: That's why you need to have a pre established safe
Speaker 1: word that only you and your loved ones know.
Speaker 4: That is exactly right, because it's other than awareness that
Speaker 4: anytime you get a phone, so it's not just email
Speaker 4: you have to be on the lookout for. And now
Speaker 4: all the old school tells are gone, you know, because
Speaker 4: they'll use AI to generate that email. You're grammatically correct now,
Speaker 4: as opposed to before you Yes, grammatically correct makes sense.
Speaker 4: Be like it's written in it by a native English
Speaker 4: speaking person, so you know, whether it's email or text.
Speaker 4: That's that's off the table because they can easily fake
Speaker 4: that stuff now. But again, you can easily clone someone's voice.
Speaker 4: It's trivial to do so when your grandson calls or
Speaker 4: your boss calls, uh, and you know obviously they're going
Speaker 4: to be more like to pull off the scam. If
Speaker 4: they're leaving a message or something with instructions. You know
Speaker 4: it's going to be harder if they're having a real
Speaker 4: time conversation with you. And one of the tells in
Speaker 4: that case would be to look for there's a weird
Speaker 4: pause in your conversations right right, because they're literally typing
Speaker 4: in what they need the response to be. So if
Speaker 4: you say something and there's an odd pause in between
Speaker 4: every response, that could be an indication that you're being scammed.
Speaker 1: But you know, an emergency call where they're asking for money, yes, period.
Speaker 4: If you get any kind of call asking for money,
Speaker 4: especially if it's in any sort of unusual payment, you
Speaker 4: need to take cash somewhere. You need to buy gift cards,
Speaker 4: you need to send venmo. The sheriff's office is not
Speaker 4: going to let your grandson out of jail because you
Speaker 4: sent gift cards, right. I mean, so much of this,
Speaker 4: Brian is always stop, take a breask, think about what
Speaker 4: you're being asked to do. Is it unusual, is it urgent?
Speaker 4: Is their money involved? If it involves any of those
Speaker 4: three things, and especially all of those three things, ninety
Speaker 4: nine percent likelihoods are getting scanned.
Speaker 1: Right, So don't go down that road and get a
Speaker 1: safe word established ahead of time. Just pick some random
Speaker 1: word like I don't know, domino or something and say,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I'm not sure this is really my grandson.
Speaker 1: What is our safe word? And the articles intelligence couldn't
Speaker 1: possibly know that, soh boom, you're done. You're hanging the
Speaker 1: phone up and you move on with your day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but they just say say. In this article, we're
Speaker 4: referencing the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint and Internet Crime Complaints
Speaker 4: Center report, which is very insightful. By the way, I
Speaker 4: encourage people to go check down and see what the
Speaker 4: FBI is seeing. So it's not speculation of what might
Speaker 4: happen by people like me, it's actual crimes that have
Speaker 4: been reported elder fraud losses hit four point eight eight
Speaker 4: billion in twenty twenty four, is staggering forty three percent
Speaker 4: jump from the previous year. The average senior victim lost
Speaker 4: over eighty three thousand dollars week. Yeah, so you should.
Speaker 4: You should warn your elderly parents and your elderly friend.
Speaker 4: You should give them the advice we just gave here.
Speaker 4: You know, Microsoft is not waiting around to find a
Speaker 4: virus on your personal computer and call you up and
Speaker 4: say you have a virus. Google is not going to
Speaker 4: call you and tell you the email you just received
Speaker 4: is fraudulent and you need to change your account. Yeah right,
Speaker 4: So again, stop and think about what you're being asked
Speaker 4: to do. Be skeptical, and then, to your point, have
Speaker 4: a safer to at least think of a question that
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Speaker 1: understand you were married thirty two years yesterday. What a
Speaker 1: wonderful milestone. You're never going to catch up with me
Speaker 1: thirty three this year.
Speaker 4: Well, it's amazing I've lasted this long because if you
Speaker 4: knew what my Saint of a wife has put up with. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you have cover how I made it for thirty two years?
Speaker 1: Smart men, Mary, smart, you've done that. And congratulations, very lucky. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, all right. How is it artificial
Speaker 1: intelligence is eroding a doctor's ability to make a cancer diagnosis?
Speaker 1: I would think they could only help.
Speaker 4: Uh, you would think. And you know, there's been a
Speaker 4: lot of talk and a lot of hyperbole out there
Speaker 4: about this and how these tools are you know, going
Speaker 4: to eliminate doctors and such, and you know, I'm not
Speaker 4: sure I entirely buy this story, Brian. You know, you
Speaker 4: may have seen the stat and I don't have any
Speaker 4: front of me. I may be a little off, but
Speaker 4: something like fifty percent of all studies can't be can't
Speaker 4: be duplicated and reproduced in a way that meets the
Speaker 4: scientific methods. So I don't know. I get the premise
Speaker 4: of this. Apparently, in Poland they did a study over
Speaker 4: a short period of time of some doctors, and they
Speaker 4: were randomly assigning colonoscopy reviews to doctors, and in some
Speaker 4: cases they used AI and in some cases they didn't
Speaker 4: as part of the control mechanism of the study, and
Speaker 4: they found again, this is a relatively small study over
Speaker 4: a relatively small period of time that doctors who used
Speaker 4: AI and then stop using it got twenty percent worse
Speaker 4: at being able to diagnose the answer as the colonoscopy.
Speaker 4: You know, the idea that, yeah, I could see where
Speaker 4: there could be some validity to this, but it's a
Speaker 4: little bit hard for me to believe it would have
Speaker 4: that much of an impact. I don't know, maybe, but
Speaker 4: the idea that once people start using these tools and
Speaker 4: if the tools generally produce good content, Remember hallucination, I
Speaker 4: mentioned this before. You know, these things will be wrong
Speaker 4: and just make stuff up and insist there right, even
Speaker 4: though they're clearly wrong, or have just completely confabulated something
Speaker 4: you know, out of the out of the clear blue sky.
Speaker 4: But you know, if you get good results and you
Speaker 4: start to trust a thing and then you know it's
Speaker 4: taken away from you, you've sort of dumbed yourself down,
Speaker 4: you've sort of stopped thinking, started to use these things
Speaker 4: as a crutch. So and you know, there has been
Speaker 4: discussion around this in other fields that you know, students
Speaker 4: who use these things stop thinking. Writers who leverage these things,
Speaker 4: you know, don't really think anymore. And again I want
Speaker 4: to be clear, Brian, I'm not absolutely against this stuff.
Speaker 4: There is value in it. I use these things myself,
Speaker 4: but I understand what the limitations are. I know when
Speaker 4: it makes sense to use it and when it doesn't
Speaker 4: make sense to use it for the most part, and
Speaker 4: I don't just rely on it entirely to do every
Speaker 4: single thing that I do. Right, So again, I'm not
Speaker 4: saying AI doesn't have value, can't be used, it won't
Speaker 4: make sense for your organization in key places, but I
Speaker 4: think it's interesting. You know, if you continue to see
Speaker 4: studies producing these kind of results, I'm not really sure
Speaker 4: what that says about, you know, society in the future.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure you've seen the movie Idiocracy. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: you know. Sadly I thought that was but increasingly it
Speaker 4: seems to be a prophecy. And for folks who haven't
Speaker 4: seen Idiocracy, I encourage them to go watch it. You know,
Speaker 4: are we headed there? And is the Is it being
Speaker 4: accelerated by people leveraging these tools and using them as
Speaker 4: in a crutch and turning off their brains, and then
Speaker 4: you know, when they have to rely on them again,
Speaker 4: suddenly they can't. I don't know I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: let's face it, doctors are generally pretty smart people. They've
Speaker 4: got years of training and study. Could you have a
Speaker 4: twenty percent degradation in your capability after a short period
Speaker 4: of time using AI. I personally find that a little
Speaker 4: hard to believe. But maybe it's certainly an interesting thing
Speaker 4: to look into, and it's something if it proves out
Speaker 4: over time I would be concerned about as a society
Speaker 4: because something no one really talks about much, you know,
Speaker 4: electromagnetic pulse. I know you and I have talked about
Speaker 4: it before. This is a big concern of mine as
Speaker 4: we get increasingly reliant on technology, you know, someday, whether
Speaker 4: it's a low grade nuclear weapon set off by a terrorist,
Speaker 4: which I know sounds far fetched to people, or it's
Speaker 4: just a giant solar storm. You know, our devices are
Speaker 4: not hardened against a strong electromagnetic pulse. There's you know,
Speaker 4: I think it was eighteen twelve sometime there was a
Speaker 4: time that's probably too far back, there was a time
Speaker 4: and a time of telegraphs where there was a giant
Speaker 4: solar storm and like it's set telegraph wires on fire
Speaker 4: and stuff. Imagine, and our incredibly digital, incredibly technological connected
Speaker 4: society that we all rely on. If you had a
Speaker 4: giant solar storm that knocked all that out, it'd be
Speaker 4: a real problem.
Speaker 1: Again, I don't a societally ending problem.
Speaker 4: It's a potentially existential problem. And if none of us
Speaker 4: can even think anymore and know how to repair these
Speaker 4: things because we need AI to do it, well that's
Speaker 4: a problem. So I think this is a story that
Speaker 4: bears watching. It'll be interesting to see if other studies
Speaker 4: play this ound, and then people can decide for themselves
Speaker 4: how much they want to leverage these tools. Again, they
Speaker 4: have value, want to be clear, they have value when
Speaker 4: you understand. But you know, if all we do is
Speaker 4: use these tools, I think we're setting ourselves up for
Speaker 4: a huge problem at some future point if and when
Speaker 4: that solar storm hits, because we'll be like idiocracy.
Speaker 1: I agree completely. Yeah, yeah, walk through do the math
Speaker 1: on that. If all the electricity were to shut down completely,
Speaker 1: it is horrific reality that will unfold. Dave Atter interest
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Speaker 4: Always my pleasure, Brian, and you know I do appreciate
Speaker 4: the opportunity to educate. Hopefully we're doing some good out there.
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Speaker 1: what brings her to the studio is the ultimate tragedy.
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Speaker 1: she and her husband, her late husband Patrick lived at
Speaker 1: the door kicked in by a guy who was out
Speaker 1: on parole. He may know the story. Mordecai Black cut
Speaker 1: off his ankle monitor months in advance of murdering her husband.
Speaker 1: Should be in the studio at eight point five to
Speaker 1: talk about the what she's been fighting for. And I
Speaker 1: love the fact that at least this terrible, terrible tragedy
Speaker 1: has resulted in awareness, a great awareness from about for
Speaker 1: us that those ankle monitors just really don't do anything
Speaker 1: YE call her early in the program pointed out it
Speaker 1: creates the perception of safety while not providing the reality
Speaker 1: of safety. And she, in her most recent pronouncement, an
Speaker 1: open letter to I guess the Powers that Be, talked
Speaker 1: about her husband's attacker, murderer, Mordecai Black, but as well
Speaker 1: as Brian Goldsby and Johnny Grimes, both of whom had
Speaker 1: ankle monitors and went out and committed committed crimes. Now,
Speaker 1: as far as Brian Goldsby's concerned they had his GPS
Speaker 1: trail after he kidnapped, raped, and murdered Reagan toaks, Oh
Speaker 1: there he is, Yeah, look where he went, Look where
Speaker 1: he's walking. Showed his every move, but it was reviewed
Speaker 1: after she was dead. She cites to Johnny Grimes cut
Speaker 1: his ankle monitor in April, vanished June seventh, shot and
Speaker 1: killed Lauren Schuler. It remained at large because she said,
Speaker 1: the system isn't built, the tech them when it matters
Speaker 1: three murders, three different circumstances, common denominators, she says, a
Speaker 1: monitoring system that either isn't being watched or isn't even on.
Speaker 1: And what irks me most about this and I hate
Speaker 1: to just sort of labor the point, but it's worth laboring.
Speaker 1: Ohio had the chance to fix this, as she writes,
Speaker 1: and as we learned, Thank you to her advocacy. Back
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, the House passed ninety one or
Speaker 1: ninety two to one, a law that gave law enforcement
Speaker 1: GPS access and instant alerts. It went over to the Senate,
Speaker 1: where it died in the Senate Judiciary Committee without a
Speaker 1: single vote. Since Joe encouraged me to read the Senate
Speaker 1: committee's names. I will do that again now, Nathan H.
Speaker 1: Manning R. Republican Chair, Michelle Reynolds Vice Chair, Republican, Lewis Blessing, Republican,
Speaker 1: Al Kutrona Republican, Teresa Gavarni Republican, and two Democrats, Paula
Speaker 1: Hicks Hudson and Kent Smith. That's the committee that let
Speaker 1: it die. Why didn't we pass it? Some suggests, and
Speaker 1: she's suggests perhaps is because maybe some people think it
Speaker 1: costs too much, But obviously it turns back to her
Speaker 1: own life. Look me in the eye and tell me
Speaker 1: the cost I paid wasn't worth guarding with your vote
Speaker 1: and you and your life. So will be Patrick he
Speaker 1: Herringer Act pass this fall? And did it take the
Speaker 1: murder of Patrick Herringer to bring about some hopefully positive
Speaker 1: change in the ankle monitoring system. We've got the technology,
Speaker 1: we have the ability, we have the system in place already.
Speaker 1: We just need able bodied folks to actually pay attention
Speaker 1: to where these monitors are at any given moment in time.
Speaker 1: And you think, in a world coming off the heels
Speaker 1: of tech Friday's Dave Hatter, in a world with artificial intelligence,
Speaker 1: how difficult would it be to program artificial intelligence to
Speaker 1: well let you know when people have moved out of
Speaker 1: the region where they're allowed to be with their ankle
Speaker 1: monitors on. Huh, yeah, I think we might be able
Speaker 1: to accomplish that. Sarah Herringer on in the eight o'clock hour,
Speaker 1: looking forward to Heaven or back on some interesting developments locally.
Speaker 1: I view this as a very positive thing, and I
Speaker 1: don't know how you feel about it, but Liz Keating
Speaker 1: has decided she's going to run for council again. Republican
Speaker 1: Liz Keating, I think she did a very good job.
Speaker 1: She provided a different message. She of course very civil
Speaker 1: in her discussions with her Democrat council members. I represented
Speaker 1: the Republican Party and Republican interests and ideals pretty adequately.
Speaker 1: She's now decided she's going to run again, and maybe
Speaker 1: she senses an opportunity here. Would you spend a lot
Speaker 1: of time between now in November running a campaign, trying
Speaker 1: to get signs outspread and T shirts showing up a
Speaker 1: town hall meetings, do whatever council people do when they
Speaker 1: run for office, all that time, energy and effort, knowing
Speaker 1: full well that the dak is deck deck is deck
Speaker 1: against you because it is the city of Cincinnati. But
Speaker 1: with Corey Bowman running with the problems the mayor is facing,
Speaker 1: with the problems councils facing with the well the insult
Speaker 1: to the residents of Hyde Park and Bond Hill and
Speaker 1: other neighborhoods who maybe didn't want connecting communities in their neighborhood,
Speaker 1: only to have it shoved down their throat, not representing
Speaker 1: the will of the people. Perhaps that's opportunity for a
Speaker 1: different party or just different people. We got Steve good
Speaker 1: and running. Steve did a great job while he was
Speaker 1: on Charter candidate Charter right, no r no, d oh.
Speaker 1: Look here, he is an outlier good government policy or
Speaker 1: good government party. Smart, yes, capable, knows the job. Of
Speaker 1: course he was there before. He can do it again.
Speaker 1: He's going to hit the ground running. Great opportunity Corey Bowman.
Speaker 1: Of course, I don't know how he's doing in terms
Speaker 1: of polling. I don't know if there's any polling in
Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati reflect Court where Corey is. But
Speaker 1: he's getting a lot of traction, He's getting a lot
Speaker 1: of media attention, and of course they have to have
Speaker 1: provoll's been parked into a backed into a corner following
Speaker 1: most notably recently the July beatdown his affiliation at connection
Speaker 1: with the very controversial Iris Rawley and as the IRIS.
Speaker 1: By the way, since police dot Com and ninety eight
Speaker 1: people of siding with the Cincinni Police Department calling for
Speaker 1: her contract to be terminated, it's not too late to
Speaker 1: sign a petition. Only need about one hundred more signatures
Speaker 1: to get them to the five thousand signature goal. So
Speaker 1: since he with the y Sincypolice dot Com, get on
Speaker 1: over there, maybe we can close the gap today. So
Speaker 1: good job, Liz Keating. I wish you all the best,
Speaker 1: and I really do truly hope that I'm right in
Speaker 1: the sense that she's made this decision because she believe
Speaker 1: it is possible to do. Yesterday, in court, Chief Assistant
Speaker 1: Hamlin County Prosecutor KiB Gweenan pointed out that this violent attack,
Speaker 1: which has drawn national attention, started by two men who
Speaker 1: told some of the victims before his words stomping them
Speaker 1: WWE wrestling style, that they were at the wrong party
Speaker 1: and to get off the street. He insisted the man
Speaker 1: seen in the viral of is slapping one of the
Speaker 1: other suspects just before the beatdowns began. Did it after
Speaker 1: someone was already beaten? He said. He also revealed that
Speaker 1: no one quote, no one close quote has seen all
Speaker 1: the videos of the attack except him and the police investigators.
Speaker 1: More to come, he pointed out, there are two videos
Speaker 1: from stationary cameras that have not yet been released. The
Speaker 1: judge presiding over the matter not the assigned judge, but
Speaker 1: apparently the judge that was assigned had to be covered
Speaker 1: for anyway, it was. Judge Allen Triggs said he'd hope
Speaker 1: the video would have been ready to present to the
Speaker 1: court yesterday. The assistant Hamlin County Prosecutor said his office
Speaker 1: was working on a compilation of videos to turn over
Speaker 1: the defense. Defense attorney for Jamie or Jermaine Matthews told
Speaker 1: the judge his client was slapped by a white man
Speaker 1: who has not been charged. Countering that not true, the
Speaker 1: prosecutor said Matthews was the man that started it, and
Speaker 1: of course if you watch that video, that Matthews guys
Speaker 1: the one that punched the quote unquote rushing guy, the
Speaker 1: white guy with a white T shirt, before he then
Speaker 1: counter slapped him later a few month minutes later, a
Speaker 1: moment or two later, defense attorney Clyde Bennett, the second,
Speaker 1: representing Dekaira Vernon who's twenty four, argued that her two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars bond should be lowered, telling the judge
Speaker 1: that she had no criminal record in her case was weak.
Speaker 1: He alleged it was unconstitutional and only to set high
Speaker 1: bond due to the politics and race involved in the case.
Speaker 1: Gohin And told the judge for Bennett to say the
Speaker 1: case was driven by race and politics was offensive and
Speaker 1: beyond the pale. Now they're arguing about the size of
Speaker 1: the bond. Did race and politics play and have anything
Speaker 1: to do with setting a bond at two hundred thousand dollars, Well,
Speaker 1: you can make an argument, how often do you see
Speaker 1: a bond that high in Hamilton County? Like never? Anyway,
Speaker 1: the judge bought into the argument reduced the bond to
Speaker 1: twenty five thousand dollars ten percent, which means twenty five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars got her out of jail. Should beyond an
Speaker 1: electronic monitoring device though, and it's funny the reporting and
Speaker 1: props to Jennifer Baker over at Fox nineteen. The judge
Speaker 1: Warren Clyde Bennett that if his client tampered with her
Speaker 1: ankle monitor in any way, he would revoke her bond
Speaker 1: at once and she'd be locked up in jail until
Speaker 1: her case goes to trial. Well, I just have to
Speaker 1: ask out loud on behalf of Sarah Herringer, who's going
Speaker 1: to be monitoring the ankle bracelet to find out whether
Speaker 1: she tampers with it or not. Anyhow, some of the
Speaker 1: other bonds were lowered. One of the more violent folks,
Speaker 1: one of the ones that also got nailed with a
Speaker 1: gun chun gun charge a felony case, Merriwether. His bond
Speaker 1: total bond stands at nine hundred thousand dollars. So developments, Yes,
Speaker 1: more information coming out, Yes, more video evidence coming out.
Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Shy seven twenty two Here fifty five Karsiti talk station
Speaker 1: in studio coming to next. Grit Green Spirit Works ministers
Speaker 1: an inspirational message for a Friday five went three seven
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Speaker 1: violence in the system and Donald Trump going after Thomas Massey.
Speaker 1: You know that since he voted knowing the big beautiful Bill,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump had issued some messages saying he was going
Speaker 1: to support a challenger primary Thomas Massey. This has been
Speaker 1: tried before with absolutely zero success. So Donald Trump yesterday
Speaker 1: released a poll truth social media post citing a McLaughlin
Speaker 1: Associate's poll taken between August tenth and twelve, five hundred
Speaker 1: likely Republican voters from Massey's congressional district. Poll margin and
Speaker 1: vera four point four percentage points shows Massey's favorability rating
Speaker 1: dropping from fifty four percent in June to forty three percent.
Speaker 1: Unfavorable rating rose from fifty four to forty percent, overall
Speaker 1: job approved slipping from fifty two to thirty nine percent.
Speaker 1: Whatever Now, some are suggesting this drop as a consequence
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump's well being behind the MAGA Inc. Pack,
Speaker 1: described as a pro Trump super pack, reportedly reportedly spent
Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand dollars on the TV ad campaign that
Speaker 1: you probably saw previously spent one million dollars on a
Speaker 1: prior spot attacking Massy. Now. This poll stated quote MAGA
Speaker 1: Kentucky's ad campaign has been extremely effective in driving up
Speaker 1: awareness and influening voter influencing voter opinions majority fifty three
Speaker 1: percent less likely to vote for Massey based on what
Speaker 1: they have seen read or heard. They also pointed out
Speaker 1: they claim three and five primary voters would be more
Speaker 1: likely to vote for a candidate who is endorsed and
Speaker 1: supported by Trump, which Massey no longer is. Although Massey
Speaker 1: did endorse Trump last year, but also won the GOP
Speaker 1: primary with seventy five point nine percent of the vote.
Speaker 1: They had two challengers in that one. He won the
Speaker 1: general election ninety nine point six percent of the vote. Hmmm,
Speaker 1: echoing a theme from twenty twenty two, where he beat
Speaker 1: three primary challengers, was seventy five point two percent of
Speaker 1: the vote, winning the general election by with sixty five percent.
Speaker 1: Massy last month said of the Trump threats to bro
Speaker 1: back a primary challenger against him this year, this coming
Speaker 1: year is going to backfire tremendously his words, and that
Speaker 1: millions of dollars will be wasted against them, costing the
Speaker 1: Republicans control of the House. Perhaps we'll see. I just
Speaker 1: wonder if my friends in the Commonwealth who are in
Speaker 1: Massey's district have any faith in the McLaughlin Associates polling
Speaker 1: numbers seven twenty five. Considering the origin, you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: It's seven point thirty two here at fifty five carsit
Speaker 1: talk station. Time for a positive message. Then welcome back
Speaker 1: to the fifty five Karosey Morning Show, Rick Green, which
Speaker 1: you can find online. It's severit worksministries dot com. And
Speaker 1: director Savant, who's back in studio. He's been in a
Speaker 1: couple of times because Savant made the movie about Rick
Speaker 1: Green's life. Rick Savant, welcome back to the morning show.
Speaker 1: Good to have you guys in the studio.
Speaker 5: Nice, good morning, and thank you for having us.
Speaker 1: Well, it's awesome to have you in here because again,
Speaker 1: I know you want to talk about the positive message
Speaker 1: you have, Rick, but Lord knows we can use an
Speaker 1: injection of positivity and uplifting comments and maybe moving people
Speaker 1: in a more positive direction because man, it's a heavy,
Speaker 1: heavy world we got out.
Speaker 5: There, Yeah it is. But we serve a mighty God.
Speaker 1: Yeah we do, and a God that transformed your life.
Speaker 1: And this story is truly amazing. Now, Rick, you have
Speaker 1: to go through it again because some of the listeners
Speaker 1: are listening right now might not be familiar with your
Speaker 1: your your your story and the transformative moment in time
Speaker 1: that took you out of drugs and crime and put
Speaker 1: you on a straight and narrow path that has led
Speaker 1: you to retirement.
Speaker 11: You said you're getting ready to retire, man, Yeah, December first,
Speaker 11: it's a rat. Rick is tired.
Speaker 1: Rick is tired. Forty plus years of hard labor. Man,
Speaker 1: that's enough time to put in his system. Good job, Rick,
Speaker 1: congratulations on your upcoming retirement. Now, remember how far back
Speaker 1: are we going? When you had this, you were touched
Speaker 1: by the hand of God, if I could even put
Speaker 1: it that way.
Speaker 11: Actually, I'll never forget today. It was June fifteenth, nineteen
Speaker 11: ninety eight. That was the day that I pulled all
Speaker 11: my coke down the tilet I pulled my beer down
Speaker 11: the toilet, I broke my cigarettes, and I had got
Speaker 11: to cleanse my tongue. And I've been cusstance nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 11: The guy in the mirror, I divorced him. I didn't
Speaker 11: like him no more because he wasn't doing anything positive
Speaker 11: to Rick. He didn't offer anything positive to the world.
Speaker 11: I just didn't like him no more.
Speaker 1: You looked in the mirror and saw man. He was
Speaker 1: hooked on drugs, alcohol and a criminal.
Speaker 11: I didn't want to be him, and it just time's
Speaker 11: first time I saw him, really saw him.
Speaker 1: Did you consciously take an effort to go through that
Speaker 1: process of evaluating your life or did it just a
Speaker 1: light flip on a switch flipped on?
Speaker 11: Now you know, I'd always pray to God to help me,
Speaker 11: but something on June fifteenth. That day, I personal believe
Speaker 11: I meant the words of a praying before they would
Speaker 11: just I think I was just trying to please God
Speaker 11: by saying words, and you can't fool God that I
Speaker 11: meant it.
Speaker 1: See that point right there is why I think prayer
Speaker 1: is beneficial to everyone, because when I reflect what I
Speaker 1: don't pray every night. I guess I probably should, but
Speaker 1: I have this belief that I am speaking with a truly,
Speaker 1: all knowing entity. So you can't lie to God. You
Speaker 1: might be able to pull a wool over your mom's eyes,
Speaker 1: or your dad's eyes, or your best friend, your wife,
Speaker 1: your husband, but you know, if you believe truly that
Speaker 1: you're speaking with someone who can see through all the crap,
Speaker 1: you can't get away with paying lip service to the
Speaker 1: idea of transformation. You got to put your money where
Speaker 1: your mouth is and do it.
Speaker 11: You're right, that's why God don't listen to the words
Speaker 11: and around mouth. He listened to the words, not heart.
Speaker 1: Right, We're going to get to your message and what
Speaker 1: your your your ministry is all about. And a big
Speaker 1: news on the movie that you have made that was
Speaker 1: made about your life. Savant directed it. I'm going to
Speaker 1: talk about that word getting out even further. It's seven
Speaker 1: thirty six right now more with Rick Green and Savant
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Speaker 1: Talk Station in studio from Spirit Worksmistries dot com Man.
Speaker 1: He's been in our studio quite a few times over
Speaker 1: the years. Real Inspiration. He is Rick Green along with
Speaker 1: director Savant, who directed a movie about Rick Green's life.
Speaker 1: Now you go back to June fifteenth, nineteen ninety eight,
Speaker 1: the day that Rick experiences moment of clarity. We were
Speaker 1: talking off on the break there and he said, you
Speaker 1: know what he said, just this dunaman. You know I
Speaker 1: threw away my cocaine. That's how serious I was at
Speaker 1: the time. It's like I looked at him and said,
Speaker 1: you know, that really does speak volumes about that moment
Speaker 1: in time. From what I understand, people who are addicted
Speaker 1: to cocaine, that's not something you be inclined to do.
Speaker 1: First off, it's worth money, right, So he threw something
Speaker 1: that had like a market value on the street because
Speaker 1: you could have sold it to somebody.
Speaker 11: I didn't know you copay it on there, but it
Speaker 11: wasn't worth my phone right.
Speaker 1: Well, see proof of this transformation you went through in
Speaker 1: a moment's time, because I'm sure the Rick Green from
Speaker 1: June fourteenth, nineteen ninety eight wouldn't have thrown it away.
Speaker 1: He probably would have used it, or you maybe have
Speaker 1: taken better financial event to yourself and sold that to
Speaker 1: somebody else that he has it was addicted to cocaine anyway.
Speaker 1: So how savant did you find out about Rick's story
Speaker 1: and decide that you were going to get involved with
Speaker 1: making a movie about his life?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I had, Well, Rick sent me a text, but you know,
Speaker 11: I'll get text from people all the time. I know
Speaker 11: everybody's ideas before they come out. But Rick sent me
Speaker 11: a text, and he was just kind of adamant about meeting.
Speaker 5: He met my cousin.
Speaker 11: He came me through my cousin and he text me
Speaker 11: one day and I was like, okay, let's set something up.
Speaker 11: And then that day got close and Rick text me
Speaker 11: again and I met him at a Pianera bread and
Speaker 11: just to hear him talk about his life and how
Speaker 11: passionate he was I'm just like Rick, I'm in you
Speaker 11: know so, and it just kind of developed that way.
Speaker 1: That's a great I mean, he is he's a life
Speaker 1: transformer right there, that guy. Oh yeah, I mean his
Speaker 1: message comes through lot and clear, and he's just so
Speaker 1: convincing of this path that I'm sure you've eve inceduenced
Speaker 1: low lives of so many people with your message.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 11: You know, I hope I do, because I always wonder God,
Speaker 11: am I helping people? I'm just trying to be obedient,
Speaker 11: but my whole is that I'm helping people.
Speaker 1: Right Well, you continue to do that. You're still giving
Speaker 1: out sandwiches on the weekend to folks.
Speaker 11: And Saturday every Saturday is God we o were like
Speaker 11: thirteen thousand bags.
Speaker 1: Now that's great. And you also saved the man's life.
Speaker 1: You gave a total stranger a kidney.
Speaker 11: I told people that's hard to accept because I think
Speaker 11: God saved the life.
Speaker 1: You use me, Well, you're the one that donated the kidney. Man, Yes,
Speaker 1: you got the inspiration from God, but you know you're
Speaker 1: the one that pulled through with it. It's like throwing
Speaker 1: the cocaine down the toilet. It's like saying I'm taking
Speaker 1: my life back. I'm giving up the old ways. I'm
Speaker 1: transforming my life. I'm gonna save a life.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 11: I don't believe I own this. I believe this is
Speaker 11: just rented to me to walk through earth. I believe
Speaker 11: this is all God my body.
Speaker 1: Okay. So to all the people out there that constantly
Speaker 1: focus on negative, negative, negative, woe is me? Woe is me?
Speaker 1: What do you say to them?
Speaker 11: I will say, spend some time with God and read
Speaker 11: this word and you'll find out life isn't as bad
Speaker 11: as you believe it is. I believe this thing right
Speaker 11: here on mind makes it worse than it really is.
Speaker 11: I believe it's where you choose to focus at If
Speaker 11: you focus on negativity constantly, and that's what the universe
Speaker 11: is gonna give you. It's all a circle. Whatever you
Speaker 11: focus on coming back to you. Why don't you try
Speaker 11: and focus on loving people, focus on positivity, focus on
Speaker 11: being a better as human being, focus on doing something
Speaker 11: good that's not about you all the time.
Speaker 1: And what does that do for you?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 1: Doesn't it make you feel good?
Speaker 11: It brings our positive energy back to you, and you'll
Speaker 11: do it more. I believe so much of where you
Speaker 11: choose to focus at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a really important thing to say.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked you the question, Rick Savann, how
Speaker 1: long did it take you to make the movie?
Speaker 5: We took about a year. It took about a year. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we took about a year.
Speaker 11: We started in a fall, so it wasn't the greatest
Speaker 11: start time because eventually it gets cold and it snows,
Speaker 11: and we shot a few scenes indoors when it was
Speaker 11: snowing that you know, well, weather didn't matter. But it
Speaker 11: took about a year and and it but it came
Speaker 11: together and we're glad we got it done.
Speaker 1: And my understanding it's been picked up by streaming services.
Speaker 1: So where can my listeners, you know, check this movie out?
Speaker 4: Fun?
Speaker 11: Yes, we should be available streaming on to be September first.
Speaker 1: To be September first. Yeah, is there a place right
Speaker 1: now where people can see it?
Speaker 11: No, it's not yet released, and actually we even got
Speaker 11: it on more services. We haven't got the name and
Speaker 11: dates yet, but we are confirmed on the first of
Speaker 11: September for two to.
Speaker 1: Be first of September, And I'll tell you what you
Speaker 1: remind Joe, and we'll put a link on my blog page.
Speaker 1: Fift if I've care sey dot Com to link up
Speaker 1: to the TV link. Once it's up there, and everytime
Speaker 1: you get more streaming services, we'll add it up there.
Speaker 1: When you watch that movie, Rick, did you see yourself
Speaker 1: in that young man who played you? I mean, is
Speaker 1: it like watching yourself when you were younger? Or is
Speaker 1: it just sort of like a version of it. It's close,
Speaker 1: but I don't see me.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 11: I look at it and I don't look at it
Speaker 11: because they bring up feelings I used to have.
Speaker 5: About my mother. I don't like thinking about.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, because I love her, I forgave her, but
Speaker 11: it brings up whole feelings. I kind of peek at
Speaker 11: it in our leading room. But that's what I wanted.
Speaker 11: I wanted to be real. I wanted to be wrong.
Speaker 11: But I also want people to know you can stumble,
Speaker 11: fall and fail at life. You can also get back up.
Speaker 11: Yes you can't. It's a choice. Stop blaming everybody for
Speaker 11: your life. It's yours. It says right there, your life.
Speaker 1: Powerful words, Rick Green. We'll bring them both back. Rick
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Speaker 1: Seven fifty here fifty five ker Ce talk Station, Happy Friday.
Speaker 1: Sarah Herringer returns to the studio at the top of
Speaker 1: the our news. Sarah, of course, widow of Patrick Herringer,
Speaker 1: stabbed to death and over the ruin in their apartment,
Speaker 1: had her on before and she is demanding changes, including
Speaker 1: the Patrick Herringer Law, which will require the authorities to
Speaker 1: actually monitor folks out on ankle bracelets. Maybe folks like
Speaker 1: our crime stopper Bad Guy the Week will return with
Speaker 1: Grick Green and Savant right after we talked to Officer
Speaker 1: Green since a police department crime stopper Bad Guy of
Speaker 1: the Week. Welcome back. It's a pleasure to have you
Speaker 1: on the program. Who are we looking for today?
Speaker 12: The Butler County Par's Office is looking for Brandon Kloonan.
Speaker 12: Mister Kluonan is wanted for a felony parole violation as
Speaker 12: failure to register. Brandon Kloonan was originally charged with the
Speaker 12: rate of a fifteen year old female. Yeah, Brandon Kluhan
Speaker 12: is a me White. He's thirty eight years old. He's
Speaker 12: five three and one hundred and forty pounds. Brandon Cloonan
Speaker 12: has a history of domestic violence and resisting arrests, resisting
Speaker 12: arrest and minacing, and was last known to live in Middletown, Ohio.
Speaker 12: If anyone has information on where police can find Brandon Kloonen,
Speaker 12: please call Crime Stoppers at five one three three five
Speaker 12: two thirty forty or submitted tip online at Prime Desk
Speaker 12: Stoppers dot us.
Speaker 1: Stevid Green would tell you, and I'll tell you myself.
Speaker 1: You'll remain anonymous. Your tip will be eligib make you
Speaker 1: eligible for a cash reward if for leads and arrest,
Speaker 1: you be doing the Cincinnati area a service by getting
Speaker 1: this pervert off the street. His pictures posted on my
Speaker 1: blog page Tiffany Green, Officer Green Think, thank you for
Speaker 1: the work that you do throughout the week. Love this
Speaker 1: INSI Police Department and we here on the Morning Show
Speaker 1: are supportive of what you do each and every day.
Speaker 1: Returning Rick Green and Studio along with a film director
Speaker 1: Savant talking about Spirit Works Ministries dot com and the
Speaker 1: story of Rick Green's life, which you'll be able to
Speaker 1: find streaming online beginning September first. Uh, and we'll post
Speaker 1: that link on my blog page fifty five Casey dot com. Rick,
Speaker 1: you just made an interesting comment and on the heels
Speaker 1: of this beatdown which happened over a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows about it.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 1: And of course what happened to Sarah Heringer. You got
Speaker 1: held up quite a few years back, and you made
Speaker 1: a decision you were never going back down again downtown again.
Speaker 11: Nah, don't do downtown at night. That was the first
Speaker 11: time I ever had a gun put to my head.
Speaker 11: I'm young. I had seven dollars and I talked to God.
Speaker 11: I said, God, not like this. I thought he was
Speaker 11: joking at first, and then he racked the slide. This
Speaker 11: is real. I said, God, not like this. And when
Speaker 11: I said it, he took my wine and he ran, woh.
Speaker 1: Never.
Speaker 5: It's something about that night.
Speaker 1: Well, considering your positive message, I mean, if you could
Speaker 1: say something to those people who were inclined to just
Speaker 1: go all just completely.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I want to describe it as like animalistic behavior. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one thing to get into a scrap with somebody else.
Speaker 1: That happens all the time. Maybe two people get into
Speaker 1: a fistfight. Should it happen? No, but that happens all
Speaker 1: the time. But for the entire group of people to
Speaker 1: come completely unhinged and launch such an just absolutely violent,
Speaker 1: violent attack another human being, and then to colecock and
Speaker 1: sucker punch a poor woman right in the face she
Speaker 1: was doing nothing. I mean, where do you think that
Speaker 1: comes from?
Speaker 4: Rick?
Speaker 1: And you know, what would you say to those folks
Speaker 1: if you hadn't piled up into a room together.
Speaker 11: I think it's individual choices. I don't want people to
Speaker 11: make a blanket answer on nobody down there. Those the
Speaker 11: individual choices. Some people were raised wrong, some people just
Speaker 11: like violence. I don't think there is one answer. But
Speaker 11: you know, every individual to me, got an answer for theirself,
Speaker 11: and I think we should look at it like that. Yeah,
Speaker 11: you know, it's horrible. I just don't think people should
Speaker 11: hurt people. No, it's wrong, right with the exception not
Speaker 11: defending yourself, but just to hurt people, it's wrong. God,
Speaker 11: don't like it. I don't like it. I don't think
Speaker 11: none of us like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even if you can see that we have,
Speaker 1: you know, a maybe a society that has built in problems.
Speaker 1: If you are of the mind to believe that we are,
Speaker 1: you know, a systemically racist society. Can you use that
Speaker 1: as a justification to punch a woman in the face.
Speaker 5: No, you can never justify evil.
Speaker 1: You can never justify evil.
Speaker 11: No, No, because self defense isn't evil. Those are two
Speaker 11: different things. I'm trying to get you off of me.
Speaker 11: That's different. It is evil is hurting someone into I
Speaker 11: don't know, maybe you'd like to do it. I don't
Speaker 11: know why you do it in no rhyme or reason.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll have to contemplate that message exactly.
Speaker 5: We got to share the plan with a lot of
Speaker 5: people that think like that.
Speaker 1: Well, they're Green. That's why you're out here, man. You're
Speaker 1: saving lives, you're helping people eat, you are doing the
Speaker 1: work of God. You continue to spread the message of positivity.
Speaker 1: I don't see any downside of this, Rick Green, and
Speaker 1: I encourage you to continue to do what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I know you're retiring from your day job, that's fine,
Speaker 1: but you have your community work that you'll continue to do.
Speaker 1: In your retirement. It'll I'm sure it'll provide you a
Speaker 1: lot of enrichment and you will continue to change the
Speaker 1: minds of people throughout this area. And it's a beautiful thing. Man.
Speaker 1: We need an inspiration like you out there, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad to have you on the program. And Savann, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for your time and coming down here
Speaker 1: today and doing the movie about Rick Green's life. And
Speaker 1: I know everyone's going to enjoy it once it's streaming
Speaker 1: out there. Oh, definitely, thanks for having us our pleasure. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you're always welcome here. Seven to fifty five. Sarah Herringer
Speaker 1: going to be in the studio coming up after the
Speaker 1: top of the URW. We'll hear from her and whether
Speaker 1: she's made any progress in her efforts. Don't go away.
Speaker 1: He'll be called the Twelve Day War. I suppose that's
Speaker 1: what we were nicknaming it already. Another update at the
Speaker 1: top of the hour, the use of military force. Fifty
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Speaker 1: was swissing everyone a happy Friday, and I hope you
Speaker 1: have some great plans going on this week. A bit
Speaker 1: of a sommer note. Bring Sarah Herringer, a bit Sarah
Speaker 1: Herringer back into the studio. And I'm sure everybody in
Speaker 1: my listening audience is familiar with the name. She is
Speaker 1: a widow thanks to a guy named Mordecai Black who
Speaker 1: cut off his ankle monitor. He was out on parole.
Speaker 1: He was out wandering about for months, no indication that
Speaker 1: law enforcement had any idea at all that he had
Speaker 1: cut off his ankle monitor, and he broke into their home,
Speaker 1: Patrick and Sarah Herringer's home and over the rhine where
Speaker 1: they have had a business, and stabbed Patrick Herringer to
Speaker 1: death right in front of his wife Sarah, and Patrick
Speaker 1: died saving his wife's life. Sarah Heringer, the widow, is
Speaker 1: in studio to talk about what she's trying to do,
Speaker 1: and that's bring around some sanity here in the state
Speaker 1: of Ohio, like real time monitoring of ankle monitors. Sarah,
Speaker 1: it's good to have you back in the studio.
Speaker 13: Thanks, it's good to be here.
Speaker 1: I wish you didn't have to be famous for the
Speaker 1: reasons you are famous now, but I'm glad to see
Speaker 1: that you're spreading the word and knowledge and information is
Speaker 1: really powerful. I had a caller earlier in the program
Speaker 1: who suggested, you know, ah, we have these ankle monitor
Speaker 1: programs because it just all makes us feel like something's
Speaker 1: being done. Well, he's got an ankle monitor, and naturally
Speaker 1: the authorities are monitoring it, and he's defined. He's confined
Speaker 1: to a certain place, like the confines of his home
Speaker 1: and maybe the place where he works, that's all. And
Speaker 1: if he goes out of those areas, some alarm are
Speaker 1: going to go off somewhere. Law enforcement's going to be notified,
Speaker 1: and they're going to go after him and try to
Speaker 1: pick him up. That makes sense, and that's what we
Speaker 1: are led to believe. This is how the system works works,
Speaker 1: is it not?
Speaker 13: Absolutely?
Speaker 14: I mean, I am one of the people who found
Speaker 14: out that ankle monitors do not monitor in real time,
Speaker 14: and that currently when you disable one, it also doesn't
Speaker 14: trigger any kind of alarm.
Speaker 1: That in and of itself is hard to believe.
Speaker 14: Yes, as soon as I found out, I likened it
Speaker 14: to Jurassic Park when the fences go off, and I
Speaker 14: was like, okay, and the I mean the thing is is,
Speaker 14: obviously we do not know that. The people who put
Speaker 14: ankle monitors on know that. And the unfortunate thing is
Speaker 14: all of the criminals, the felons wearing the ankle monitors
Speaker 14: are the ones who know that they don't work in
Speaker 14: track in real time.
Speaker 1: So you anticipated my next question, is this word gotten
Speaker 1: out already?
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, I mean everyone knows that. I mean, they
Speaker 14: all know that. And it's another example of where optics
Speaker 14: over true outcomes. It's like, what's the entire what's the purpose?
Speaker 14: Why would you put an ankle monitor on to begin with?
Speaker 14: If it's that ineffective?
Speaker 1: Well exactly, and you know, I considering your case and
Speaker 1: what we all now are aware of, thanks to you
Speaker 1: to bringing this to everybody's attention, they're not monitoring them,
Speaker 1: and the powers that be are aware that that's knowing
Speaker 1: not going on. One of the defendants in that July
Speaker 1: beatdown was in front of a judge yesterday and told
Speaker 1: that she had to be where she had to wear
Speaker 1: an ankle monitor. He lowered her bond from two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars down to twenty five thousand dollars to ten
Speaker 1: percent twenty five hundred dollars bond, but she has to
Speaker 1: wear an electronic monitoring device, and Fox nineteen reported that
Speaker 1: the judge warned her attorney that if she tampered with
Speaker 1: her ankle monitor in any way, she would provoke her
Speaker 1: bond and she'd be locked up in general till the
Speaker 1: case went to trial. Well, that's fine, that's all well
Speaker 1: and good, But the judge also knows that tampering with
Speaker 1: an ankle monitor or removing it is not going to
Speaker 1: result in alarm going off.
Speaker 14: Correct, So it's just a threat that they put out
Speaker 14: there in order to do their due diligence. Hey, there
Speaker 14: are consequences if you do that, but there has to
Speaker 14: be The thing has to be effective in order for
Speaker 14: it to work.
Speaker 13: Outside.
Speaker 14: I mean, at this point, we already know that these
Speaker 14: are people who don't follow the law and don't do
Speaker 14: what they're told.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, demonstrably so the sad thing. And I've expressed
Speaker 1: outright anger over finding this out again as a consequence
Speaker 1: of your work since learned that. Back in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: the Ohio House passed by a ninety two to one vote,
Speaker 1: a requirement that real time monitoring of ankle bracelets. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was passed. No, I mean bipartisanship doesn't exist anymore
Speaker 1: in here. You have something that almost one hundred percent
Speaker 1: passed and it went over to the Senate committee and
Speaker 1: it died there.
Speaker 14: Yes, yeah, we uh Cindy Abrams, she's looking into that
Speaker 14: because it's why did it die there, you know, and
Speaker 14: asking the individuals that are named and listed, what was
Speaker 14: the point of that? But it's it is it's enraging
Speaker 14: to find out that there is an entire group of
Speaker 14: lawmakers that have all decided. And this entire thing came
Speaker 14: about because of the Reagan Tolks case, which I don't
Speaker 14: know if you're familiar.
Speaker 13: With, well you wrote about it, yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Brian's Goldsby wars ankle monitor the night he kidnapped, raped,
Speaker 1: and murdered Reagan Toaks. This isn't from Sarnga's online letters.
Speaker 1: She wrote about this. He didn't need to cut it off.
Speaker 1: He knew no one was watching in real time. His
Speaker 1: GPS trail showed every move, but that was only reviewed
Speaker 1: after she was shot dead after being raped and kidnapped. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: they have it right there, it's right there.
Speaker 14: Yeah, and her mother did so much work to get
Speaker 14: the bill to or the act, you know, to that
Speaker 14: point where it passes, the governor signs off on it,
Speaker 14: it goes to the Senate committee and they just outright
Speaker 14: said no, uh, and then it doesn't go you know,
Speaker 14: to a larger vote in order to be passed into law.
Speaker 14: And I tell me why that would make sense on
Speaker 14: you know what level? There's money available.
Speaker 1: Well, there's money available, and there are literally lives at
Speaker 1: stake here. I mean, you cited several different other illustrations
Speaker 1: beyond your own personal experience and losing your husband because
Speaker 1: of this, that it's happened before, and it may have
Speaker 1: happened a whole bunch more than you even are aware of.
Speaker 14: Yeah, that is one thing I've been looking into, and
Speaker 14: it's actually it's it's very hard to find information of
Speaker 14: how many people have had ankle monitors on and committed crimes,
Speaker 14: or they've popped them, you know, they've disabled them or
Speaker 14: removed them in some way, and they've created they've reoffended.
Speaker 14: That's information that I haven't really been able to get
Speaker 14: a hold of yet. I think that would be really
Speaker 14: great job for the media and investigative journalism to maybe
Speaker 14: to start building this case and showing people right there
Speaker 14: as the information comes out. It's it's all things that
Speaker 14: we don't know, but we absolutely should so we can
Speaker 14: get behind something and make a change.
Speaker 1: Well, a change benefits literally everyone, yes, anybody and lives.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, going back to your very profound point, it's
Speaker 1: almost like stating the obvious, but it's worthy were repeating.
Speaker 1: These people have already demonstrated they will not follow the law.
Speaker 1: They have committed crimes which have brought them to prison
Speaker 1: resulting in probation and ankle monitoring or placed on bond
Speaker 1: for having committed a heinous crime. Have to be held accountable.
Speaker 1: They've demonstrated that they don't care.
Speaker 14: Right, Yes, I think another thing to look at too
Speaker 14: is how many of them reoffend or continue to break parole.
Speaker 14: When it comes to Mordecai Black, he'd spent nineteen of
Speaker 14: his last twenty years incarcerated, and that was because every
Speaker 14: time he was out, he reoffended, oftentimes breaking the parole
Speaker 14: that he was on. And that's also information that we
Speaker 14: really should be taking into account, that judges should absolutely
Speaker 14: be taking into account is how many times is this
Speaker 14: person offended?
Speaker 1: Without question? Yeah, and if they've demonstrated a willingness to
Speaker 1: violate parole, then maybe you don't let them out right, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's the justice system.
Speaker 14: If you can't play nice, Yeah, then you can all
Speaker 14: go play with each other in a place called prison.
Speaker 1: Phrasing. I do like that, Sarah. Thank you for that
Speaker 1: little bit of levity, at least as I interpreted it. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, so we will go ahead and name names,
Speaker 1: considering we have the list of senators on the Senate
Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee who let this thing die. Chairman Nathan H. Manning, Republican, Republican,
Speaker 1: Michelle Reynolds, Vice Chair Louis Blessing, Republican, Republican, Al Katrona Republican,
Speaker 1: Teresa Gavroni, Democrats Paula Hicks Hudson, and Democrat Ken Smith.
Speaker 1: So you had a bipartisan group of folks who let
Speaker 1: this thing die. It's not going to happen again.
Speaker 14: No, I cannot imagine it will. I'll be working with
Speaker 14: Cindy Abrams and plan on addressing the Senate myself and
Speaker 14: have them look me in the eye and tell me
Speaker 14: that it is not worth passing.
Speaker 1: I love that. And what we were talking about is
Speaker 1: the Patrick Herringer Act, which will require every month to
Speaker 1: be real time monitored. And that's going to be addressed,
Speaker 1: I guess in the fall session, and we will definitely
Speaker 1: see that it gets passed. I know my morning show
Speaker 1: listener will be more than happy to contact their elected
Speaker 1: officials to make it happen and not let it die
Speaker 1: in the Senate. Let me ask out loud. But as
Speaker 1: we'll move into a break, perhaps this has something to
Speaker 1: do with money. Do we have enough money to do this?
Speaker 1: Do we know what it's going to cost to hire
Speaker 1: people to follow it? I think it's a worthy expenditure,
Speaker 1: considering all of our lives are, at least theoretically at stake.
Speaker 1: Here ask Sarah, it's a fifteen right now that if
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Speaker 10: talk station eighteen fifty fock car Seed. He talks station,
Speaker 10: try to make it a happy Friday. Pick Rick Dream's
Speaker 10: message and run with it. Rick Green from Spirit Works
Speaker 10: Ministries on the program earlier, talking about the movie that
Speaker 10: was made about his life. It's just spreading a real
Speaker 10: inspirational message and hopefully we can draw some inspiration from
Speaker 10: my studio. They return to Sarah Herringer lost her husband
Speaker 10: in that terrible terrible stabbing in their apartment over the Rhine,
Speaker 10: going back to the Patrick Herringer Act, which a ken
Speaker 10: we're going to get past this fall. It would require
Speaker 10: real time monitoring, actually, someone literally paying attention to folks
Speaker 10: out there on ankle monitors so they can't cut them off,
Speaker 10: So they can't you wander around for months before committing
Speaker 10: their next crime. Is this is and again the idea
Speaker 10: that this was passed overwhelmingly in the Ohio House only
Speaker 10: to die in the Senate committee. Do you know whether
Speaker 10: this was a money issue, Sarah means like, no, we
Speaker 10: can't do that. That's going to cost us Ohio taxpayer
Speaker 10: too much money.
Speaker 14: I would assume it had to come down to a
Speaker 14: dollar amount. Why else would it be rejected when it
Speaker 14: when it comes.
Speaker 1: To right kind of thing. That's why I'm angry about.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to be Switzerland neutrality here and
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what would stop this from happening.
Speaker 1: And you know, one might say, well, we really don't
Speaker 1: have the technology to do this real time, and I
Speaker 1: would throw a BS flag on that.
Speaker 7: You do.
Speaker 14: The technology exists, we do have it, you know. And
Speaker 14: the the other part of it too, is also the
Speaker 14: and part of the act is having the the alerts
Speaker 14: go to the local police departments right and have them notified.
Speaker 14: It's it's not even enough that it's like, well, when
Speaker 14: when this happens, when the ACAL monitor you know, the notification,
Speaker 14: where does it go, who's monitoring it, what happens to it,
Speaker 14: who's responding, And there just needs to be a faster
Speaker 14: and more you know, urgency behind the apprehension of someone
Speaker 14: who's done this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about like an Amber alert? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: if a child goes missing, you get an Amber alert
Speaker 1: almost immediately as soon as the authorities are made aware.
Speaker 1: They've got a central system that sends out the messages
Speaker 1: right about that.
Speaker 14: And they also they treat you know, different felons differently.
Speaker 14: To my understanding, I've been speaking with some of the
Speaker 14: local police officers here, and when it comes to sex offenders,
Speaker 14: they get notified immediately for that, thankfully, thankfully.
Speaker 13: Yes, And.
Speaker 14: There can't just be you know, like this one's worse
Speaker 14: than all of the others, so you know, there there
Speaker 14: should be.
Speaker 13: It's in it.
Speaker 14: But it shows again that there is already a system
Speaker 14: and technology in place for a certain type of criminal,
Speaker 14: for a certain type of alert, So why wouldn't we
Speaker 14: just put that across the board with anyone wearing an
Speaker 14: ankle monitor and also notify the police for anyone who
Speaker 14: has gone a wall, and especially violent criminals, not just
Speaker 14: ones who have created sex.
Speaker 1: Crimes, and to the extent they want to prioritize their
Speaker 1: efforts in rounding that person off. Well, it's a low
Speaker 1: level offender. The person got, you know, busted for third
Speaker 1: offense stealing sodas or something for in store, was serving
Speaker 1: a minor amount of time, or was out on probation
Speaker 1: with an ankle monitor over a non violent offense. We're
Speaker 1: not going to prioritize our efforts to get that guy.
Speaker 1: But we know he's out there because we got the alert, right,
Speaker 1: it seems manageable. And then the child molester comes out.
Speaker 1: All right, all man on deck, We're all gonna go
Speaker 1: out and search for this pervert. Absolutely, that's the way
Speaker 1: you manage that. And you know the other thing is
Speaker 1: we have geo fencing. I mean you can program your
Speaker 1: cell phone and your your your dog ankle or your
Speaker 1: dog collar that zaps them when they go past a
Speaker 1: certain area. You don't need to put a line in
Speaker 1: the ground anymore. You just allocate the plan based on
Speaker 1: GPS satellite images and boom, you've got it. The dog
Speaker 1: gets to that area, it's gonna get zapped. Same thing.
Speaker 1: Technology clearly works.
Speaker 13: Yes, absolutely, And you.
Speaker 1: Know what, going back to that money thing, the going
Speaker 1: to close millions of dollars. I go back to the
Speaker 1: we found six hundred million dollars to give to the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Six million. I gotta imagine that would cover
Speaker 1: most of the car this. I mean, how much can
Speaker 1: it possibly cost to run this kind of system.
Speaker 14: Well, that's the other thing that Cindy Abrams were looking into.
Speaker 14: She when she introduced this bill the first time, there
Speaker 14: was and that's the thing where she's looking to see
Speaker 14: what happened.
Speaker 13: There is money.
Speaker 14: For it, there is, and it's not you know the
Speaker 14: person that's like, oh, like yeah, you know. Some of
Speaker 14: the complaints have been how much more taxes? You know,
Speaker 14: how is this going to raise taxes? How much would
Speaker 14: this I'm already paying so much? And it's like, no,
Speaker 14: you don't need to pay any more taxes than you're
Speaker 14: already paying. We need to reallocate these things towards programs
Speaker 14: that have transparency and proven success and not just keep
Speaker 14: taking that money and dumping them into organizations that are
Speaker 14: designed to manage poverty and crime. Therefore, they don't actually
Speaker 14: fix them because their jobs would go away.
Speaker 1: Oh and that isn't that a problem here in the system.
Speaker 1: There's so many longer real organizations out there doing work
Speaker 1: in the community, and they have their hand in the
Speaker 1: taxpayer cookie jar. They do get paid, and they do
Speaker 1: promise to do some good that's been defined which qualified
Speaker 1: them to get some of the taxpayer dollars. But does
Speaker 1: anyone follow up and really truly do an analysis to
Speaker 1: find out if the work that they claim they're doing
Speaker 1: is actually actually effective.
Speaker 14: And in Cincinnati the answer is no. And in our
Speaker 14: own hometown, where we have that type of system, that
Speaker 14: type of government funds being put into these NGOs, to
Speaker 14: date there is not They are not showing true metrics
Speaker 14: of success, mostly because they haven't defined them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's convenience.
Speaker 14: Yes, very convenient to decide or see whether something that
Speaker 14: they're putting money towards works or not.
Speaker 13: So it does.
Speaker 14: I think with all of that, it has to come
Speaker 14: from a total reorganization, from reallocation of funds. But we
Speaker 14: need the leader ship to really be transparent with what
Speaker 14: our money is being spent on anyway, line by line,
Speaker 14: where is it going metrics of success, and then the
Speaker 14: money just really needs to go to a program such
Speaker 14: as a real time ankle monitoring notification working with local
Speaker 14: law enforcement.
Speaker 13: That's something that's that's effective.
Speaker 1: And you can make a great argument for that demonstrably effective.
Speaker 1: Just on a theoretical level that we're talking here. You
Speaker 1: ask the question, can this be accomplished? Do we have
Speaker 1: the technology to do it? Of course we do. Can
Speaker 1: we make this happen? Well, of course we can. This
Speaker 1: is not sort of conceptually beyond the pale, some sort
Speaker 1: of brand new thing that you're thinking up out a
Speaker 1: whole clock. I mean, I'm sure there's real time monitoring
Speaker 1: somewhere out in the world, some other county or.
Speaker 13: Community, probably other states within.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could just follow their lead. The work's already done.
Speaker 1: Don't exactly. Oh well, I'll just do what they did.
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Speaker 1: by the time was Sarah Herringer Boster her husband Patrick
Speaker 1: in a terribly violent stabbing attack in their Over the
Speaker 1: Rhine apartment. They are business owners in the community that
Speaker 1: lived there for I guess you told me eight years.
Speaker 1: So eight year and you moved.
Speaker 13: Out, yes, yeah, no longer there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you sucked it up as long as you could.
Speaker 1: And Over the Rhine now you've heard may I have
Speaker 1: to have peerwell in the wake of this ridiculous and
Speaker 1: horrific violence that we witnessed a few weeks ago, and
Speaker 1: with the beat down, I think everyone kind of generally
Speaker 1: understands when you say what the beatdown was, which event
Speaker 1: was referring to. But the mayor and other council members
Speaker 1: and the city manager, and I guess, to some extent,
Speaker 1: although not as much, Police Chief Thiegi coming out saying, oh, no,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's safe. Don't believe your eyes, don't believe what you
Speaker 1: see on the video. Cincinnati's a safe place. They claim.
Speaker 1: The crime is down. Now, you lived in over the Rhine,
Speaker 1: one of the hotspots it's been repeatedly identified for criminal
Speaker 1: activity regularly. I'm not just picking on Over the line,
Speaker 1: But you actually live there, So living there for eight
Speaker 1: solid years, what was your experience, I mean, and your
Speaker 1: husband was killed? What June sixth, June fourth, June fourth,
Speaker 1: So in the eight years preceding June fourth, when you
Speaker 1: finally said you've had enough for obvious reasons, what was
Speaker 1: it like day.
Speaker 14: To day there? We always played the gun or the game?
Speaker 14: Is that gunshots or fireworks?
Speaker 1: Oh? You know, I remember my days in Chicago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna play out in our alleyway.
Speaker 13: Yeah, you're like, is that construction?
Speaker 6: Firework?
Speaker 13: Gunshot?
Speaker 1: Cars don't backfire anymore? You can go ahead and believe.
Speaker 14: That if you want exactly and yeah, I mean that
Speaker 14: if you do look at the shot Spotter program that's
Speaker 14: like a year to date, there's like twenty two thousand shots.
Speaker 4: Whoa.
Speaker 14: So that's and and maybe I don't want to be
Speaker 14: too misleading. I need to double check that data that
Speaker 14: was that was thrown out. But the point being is
Speaker 14: my lived experience is shots fired on a regular weekly
Speaker 14: occurrence in for for the past eight years.
Speaker 13: The concern that before this was more so.
Speaker 14: Theft uh and then Patrick and I had talked and
Speaker 14: it's and it's insane for me to be saying this now,
Speaker 14: but I really believed that I was safe. Other than
Speaker 14: wrong place, wrong time, The crime wasn't towards me. I
Speaker 14: you know, catch a stray bullet, which the bullets have
Speaker 14: to go somewhere. There have been times where you know,
Speaker 14: they've been in the roof of our house. They're on
Speaker 14: the roof of our building. There there was a night
Speaker 14: where we were out and it just felt there was
Speaker 14: a big event in Washington Park and I was like,
Speaker 14: I don't feel good. Let's out here, Let's just go home.
Speaker 14: It was nine pm. We got home and we have
Speaker 14: bullets whizzing by our bedroom to a point where my
Speaker 14: husband drops to the floor and he's an army that
Speaker 14: he's been deployed. This wasn't and I was like, oh,
Speaker 14: I guess we're getting to the floor now. A couple
Speaker 14: weeks before this had happened outside on Walnut Street down
Speaker 14: an OTR across from the shell. Forty to fifty shots fired.
Speaker 14: It wakes me up in my bed and I'm like, Okay, gunshots,
Speaker 14: Oh my god, gunshots. I'm laying as flat as I
Speaker 14: can in my bed as far as all my like,
Speaker 14: is this going to come through the window, what's going
Speaker 14: to happen, so that even then we were like, all right,
Speaker 14: the bullets are going to go somewhere. That's that is
Speaker 14: probably our greatest threat. So it's probably time to move
Speaker 14: out of here. And so no, I mean downtown is
Speaker 14: not safe. And for the elected officials to continue saying that,
Speaker 14: to skew data, to try to you know, present, to
Speaker 14: paint a story. And I understand why they're doing it.
Speaker 14: I own a business in OTR and I'm hesitant to
Speaker 14: say it, but we had to press charge is on
Speaker 14: someone who attacked a member just this week.
Speaker 13: And the parking lot oh no, yeah.
Speaker 14: And these are things where it's you know, the media
Speaker 14: is like do you want to report? And now you
Speaker 14: know here I'm talking about it, but I'm like, no,
Speaker 14: this is my business, this is my livelihood. I'm already suffering.
Speaker 14: I've already lost my husband. The threat now on a
Speaker 14: safety level when it comes to financial means. So I
Speaker 14: understand why they want to paint this picture Cincinnati, the games,
Speaker 14: the events. That's why they have the elevated police presence
Speaker 14: is they want to create a feeling of safety. But
Speaker 14: what the get yes, to get exactly you know, and
Speaker 14: to even come down and spend their their dollars, and
Speaker 14: we need that. But what the business owners and residents
Speaker 14: of OTR are saying is, don't just give us the
Speaker 14: appearance of safety. Make it safe all the time, not
Speaker 14: just when Taylor Swift is in town.
Speaker 1: Put an exclamation point underline and put it in bold.
Speaker 1: Safe all the time, not just when Taylor Swifts in town. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: knocked it out of the park with that one, Sarah, Amen,
Speaker 1: let's pause. We take a early break, just a slightly
Speaker 1: early break. It's coming up on eight thirty five. We'll
Speaker 1: bring her back and talk some more about life and
Speaker 1: over the Rhine, and well, is it possible to turn
Speaker 1: it around? Also her perception of how police are being
Speaker 1: treated through her observations and over the Rhine stick around, be.
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Speaker 1: Eight fifty five kr CD talk station. Hope you having
Speaker 1: a happy Friday. I'm thoroughly enjoying in spite of the
Speaker 1: subject matter my conversation with Sarah Herringer with her lost
Speaker 1: show lost her husband Patrick and is stabbing at their
Speaker 1: over the Rhine apartment after having moved down and over
Speaker 1: the Rhyine for eight years and establishing a business and
Speaker 1: over the rhyine. But I guess becoming the word you
Speaker 1: used off air, Sarah, desensitize, because I told you, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just not me. It's all fortuitous. Yes, there's gunfire
Speaker 1: going on all over the round, but it happens all
Speaker 1: the time. But I know I'm not worried because I'm
Speaker 1: not a target of it. I'm not involved in criminal activity,
Speaker 1: I'm not in a gang, I'm not dealing drugs, all
Speaker 1: those things that law enforcement over the years has traditionally said. Listen,
Speaker 1: if you're going downtown, you will be safe unless you're
Speaker 1: down there to deal drugs by drugs or involved in
Speaker 1: criminal activity that's going to get you shot. Right, So
Speaker 1: that's kind of the attitude you had, I imagined. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But you mentioned though, how often, how frequently is bullets
Speaker 1: are whizzing by your window? And I wanted you to
Speaker 1: put a little more meat on the flesh on the
Speaker 1: bones of that statement, because I asked you off Mike
Speaker 1: about your husband, military trained veteran who literally jumped on
Speaker 1: the floor out of fear for his and your own
Speaker 1: safety when bullets came whizzing by you. Actually you literally
Speaker 1: heard them.
Speaker 14: Yes, there was there was this We were just getting
Speaker 14: ready for bed that night, where I was like, things
Speaker 14: just feel a little uneasy. We were home and all
Speaker 14: of a sudden, I hear this whistling noise.
Speaker 13: It's like, just like I can't even make.
Speaker 1: It on television, yes, Hollywood movie sound effect.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and I'm just very odd and it felt close.
Speaker 14: And my husband drops to the floor immediately as soon
Speaker 14: as he hears it, and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 14: guess that's you know, And I slowly, like an elevator,
Speaker 14: moved down to the ground, not not having the speed
Speaker 14: he has, and he's like, those are bullets that whiz
Speaker 14: But then when you when a bullet whizz is by, that's.
Speaker 13: What it sounds like.
Speaker 14: And he knew what it sounded like because he's, you know,
Speaker 14: he had been deployed, he had served in two wars
Speaker 14: and had oddly enough survived that right, only to be
Speaker 14: killed in his home because of failure of city leadership.
Speaker 13: And he knew what that was.
Speaker 14: He knew what it sounded like, and it was a
Speaker 14: completely foreign sound to me, but that was what engaged
Speaker 14: that initial just instinct that he had and that he dropped.
Speaker 1: In your you're recounting over the eight years you're there.
Speaker 1: The experience with hearing whether it's whizzing by you that
Speaker 1: that close range or just hearing it in the distance
Speaker 1: kind of was the norm.
Speaker 14: Yes, yeah, I mean there would be times two o'clock
Speaker 14: in the morning, I'd wake up, go down, get a
Speaker 14: cup of water, and would hear four or five gunshots
Speaker 14: pop off and you're like, eh, okay, and then you
Speaker 14: just go back to bed. And talking to anyone who
Speaker 14: lives in a neighborhood, who that's not the normal. I mean,
Speaker 14: if they heard that one night or they would have
Speaker 14: called all of the neighbors would have called the police,
Speaker 14: They would have what's happened?
Speaker 13: Who would you know?
Speaker 14: There would be probably an appropriate reaction to that instead
Speaker 14: of like, yep, that's the sounds of the city, that's
Speaker 14: the sounds of the neighborhood I live in, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know the weird thing about this, and
Speaker 1: I've never really thought about it along these lines. You
Speaker 1: hear about shot spotter technology, which you mentioned earlier. Why
Speaker 1: would any municipality invest in ShotSpot or technology unless or
Speaker 1: if they didn't have a problem with gun violence?
Speaker 13: Right, if you have to measure, you.
Speaker 1: Think there's shots spot around Anderson I'm gonna pick on
Speaker 1: Anderson again. Do they have it out there?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Do they have a need for it out there?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 14: Think so, I don't think West all of those all
Speaker 14: of those areas. Yeah, I mean you you put you
Speaker 14: invest those things are not cheap. You invest in that
Speaker 14: when you need to. You know, there's they should be
Speaker 14: collecting data to see like are the policing that you
Speaker 14: have in that area?
Speaker 13: Is that reducing?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 14: That's a good measurement. Is it actually reducing gun shots?
Speaker 14: We should probably measure where are the gun shots? Because
Speaker 14: it's not like an exact location, but we kind of
Speaker 14: you know, we know that it's in this area.
Speaker 1: It triangulates, yeah, within a block any.
Speaker 14: Right, right, you know, in order to help because of
Speaker 14: we're all dissensitized, so we don't call the police when
Speaker 14: we hear gunshots anymore, you know.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: That's it Again, as any other neighborhood where this never happens,
Speaker 1: everyone would be calling the cops. You wouldn't need shot
Speaker 1: spotter technology because it's so unusual, it so often happens
Speaker 1: in downtown. Again, based on your personal experience, A you
Speaker 1: need it be No one's going to be calling the
Speaker 1: cops because they hear it all the time. See, you
Speaker 1: get desensitized to it. And that's where I wanted to
Speaker 1: pivot over. I mean because and I mentioned that story
Speaker 1: again to you off air, when we lived in rather
Speaker 1: what I will characterize as somewhat dicey problematic neighborhood outside
Speaker 1: of Chicago, when we were up and were actually in
Speaker 1: the city of Chicago, my wife and I middle of
Speaker 1: the night. I know what a shotgun sounds like because
Speaker 1: I shoot them all the time, and I'm familiar with
Speaker 1: guns generally speaking. But I heard distinctively, what was a
Speaker 1: shotgun blast? My wife wakes up, Oh my god, what
Speaker 1: was that? And I just calmly looked at our roll
Speaker 1: over as a shotgun blast? Go back to sleep. It
Speaker 1: didn't strike me as that unexpected because I knew about
Speaker 1: all the gang activity that occurred in that area where
Speaker 1: we lived, So it was like, Okay, what are we
Speaker 1: going to get worked up about? What can I do
Speaker 1: about it? It's a shotgun blast, and probably in the
Speaker 1: middle of night, probably I probably ran away. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lift my finger about it. Do you
Speaker 1: think and that sounds me like the attitude that you have.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, whatever.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 13: I used to call in the beginning, and then I
Speaker 13: was like, I can't keep.
Speaker 1: This is a part time when seconds count? Yes, do
Speaker 1: you think amid the refrains and cries from our our
Speaker 1: city leaders, if I can use the term loosely, mayor
Speaker 1: I have to have provall and others saying that violence
Speaker 1: is not a problem, that crime is not a problem
Speaker 1: in downtowns, and saying do you think they too suffer
Speaker 1: from this desensitization that we're talking about here, that they're
Speaker 1: so used to with themselves that they don't perceive regular
Speaker 1: gunfire going off in any community as a problem.
Speaker 14: I don't think they live downtown, No, there you go.
Speaker 14: I think they live in neighborhoods where they would call
Speaker 14: if they heard gunshots.
Speaker 1: I recommend a property they can buy so they can relocate.
Speaker 14: Yeah, And that's the thing, Like we could ask any
Speaker 14: one of them, are you willing to live in OTR
Speaker 14: given the circumstances right now?
Speaker 8: And relo?
Speaker 14: Okay, I am willing to bet the answers now. Probably,
Speaker 14: So if you're not willing to live there, why would
Speaker 14: you not be willing to live there? It's not because
Speaker 14: of noise, Yeah, it's maybe a particular type of noise,
Speaker 14: but it's because it's not safe.
Speaker 1: Corey Bowman lives in the West End. Yeah, they got
Speaker 1: a lot of gunflat yeh, going ad.
Speaker 13: I'm sure he hears it all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And he's committed to his community making it
Speaker 1: a better place. Just to say it out loud, you
Speaker 1: know there are options out there. Was move forward to
Speaker 1: November one more with Sarah Herringer. I really appreciate your
Speaker 1: time today spending with my listeners and me and talking
Speaker 1: about this very important is she's and I think opening
Speaker 1: people's eyes, that's really what your life experience over the
Speaker 1: last eight years can do for folks and bringing this
Speaker 1: there's attention so we can make a better place for everyone,
Speaker 1: which is all you're hoping to get out of this tragedy.
Speaker 1: Absolutely more with Sarah. It's eight forty five fifty five KRCD.
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Speaker 1: A fifty fifty five KRCD talks a bit of an
Speaker 1: inside joke. Employees. Have I hurt me? You know Sarah
Speaker 1: has gone through my stack? My listeners I've mentioned many times.
Speaker 1: At the end of the fridays I had this, it's
Speaker 1: more than a ream of paper worth of stories that
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten to, most of which I've gotten through
Speaker 1: a lot of them, like stories in the news I
Speaker 1: was talking about this morning that he caught hearing yesterday.
Speaker 1: That's a piece of paper, A couple of pieces of paper. Anyway,
Speaker 1: stack them all up. Came to the end of the
Speaker 1: week and I just was showing her, you know, the
Speaker 1: output of my labor, and I said, I bet I
Speaker 1: didn't get to even half of the stories are in
Speaker 1: the stack. And she said, don't you have an assistant, Joe,
Speaker 1: Do I have an assistant other than the executive producer
Speaker 1: of the fifty five Karasy Morning Show has his own
Speaker 1: responsibilities and obligations. No, I am on my own staff
Speaker 1: at me. Sarah Herringer in studio of course, widow Patrick
Speaker 1: Herringer who stabbed in their apartment, talking about I mean again,
Speaker 1: Patrick's Law. Patrick Herringer Act is going to We are
Speaker 1: positive it's going to be passed, requiring real time ankle
Speaker 1: monitoring so you at least can believe that the system
Speaker 1: is actually doing something good. So we addressed that early
Speaker 1: in the program. Now by way of other changes, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you paid attention to what have to have provoll
Speaker 1: said by way of some reforms that they've enacted in
Speaker 1: the wake of the beat down. Sadly not in the
Speaker 1: wake of your husband getting murdered. Add that to the
Speaker 1: list of murders in the city of Cincinnati. Obviously we
Speaker 1: have a serious gun play problem, as you've demonstrated through
Speaker 1: your comments and what you've experienced personally, what so many
Speaker 1: other residents have experienced. Did anything he offered by way
Speaker 1: of solutions, like, for example, the curfew, give you any
Speaker 1: sense of comfort, like, Okay, that actually might work. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like the way what he is saying. It's not
Speaker 1: going to solve all the problems, but it sounds like
Speaker 1: a step in the right direction. Or do you, I mean,
Speaker 1: find fault with his proposals or do you think he
Speaker 1: was missing out on an opportunity in some way to
Speaker 1: transform or change the nature of law enforcement?
Speaker 14: I think, I mean the thing that I'm looking at
Speaker 14: is what's the expiration date on this? On all of
Speaker 14: the things that he's putting in this We're not looking
Speaker 14: for temporary band aids here. We need a long term
Speaker 14: solution and also not so much reactionary things. Where is
Speaker 14: the proactive policing? Why aren't they allowing police really to
Speaker 14: do their job, pull people over, search cars, that's where
Speaker 14: you find stolen guns, you know. The why aren't we
Speaker 14: using the fugitive apprehension to go out I've said it
Speaker 14: so many times to get the fifty two violent offenders
Speaker 14: that are a wall in Hamilton County, We have one
Speaker 14: hundred and fifty that have already popped off their ankle
Speaker 14: monitors that we know, And why aren't we going Why
Speaker 14: aren't we cleaning up the streets?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and recidtive is a problem. And if you've identified
Speaker 1: the criminal element, they're likely to break the law again,
Speaker 1: and they do it over and over again. So it's
Speaker 1: a very small slice of society that's sorting it for everybody.
Speaker 14: Yeah, which is why I think so many people, you know,
Speaker 14: when they're they're looking at these policies, they can't imagine
Speaker 14: what it's like to think like a criminal. They don't
Speaker 14: think like one, and so they you know, these programs,
Speaker 14: even they sound really nice and compassionate and rehabilitative, but
Speaker 14: that's that's not really the case. We need We need
Speaker 14: police protection. We need to be proactive, We need to
Speaker 14: prevent crimes, not just be really great at responding to them.
Speaker 14: So I think, you know, if I'm going to be
Speaker 14: critical if some of the things that AFTAB is put
Speaker 14: into place, it's it's what are we doing to prevent?
Speaker 14: What are we doing to allow police to really police
Speaker 14: and do their jobs? What is you know, what are
Speaker 14: these expiration dates? And then even down to the curfew,
Speaker 14: it's like, listen, the only kids breaking the curfew are
Speaker 14: the ones who don't listen to the law to begin with. Yeah,
Speaker 14: and they're really you know, you look it over. There's
Speaker 14: even one they're like, we're going to enforce it, except if.
Speaker 1: You're exercising your First Amendment right, right, And and I'm like,
Speaker 1: freedom of assembly is also in the constitutions, Sarah, So
Speaker 1: somebody's going to make a constitutional yeah.
Speaker 14: And so the whole thing is like, why don't you
Speaker 14: why don't you enforce laws? Why don't you actually create
Speaker 14: things that you can legally enforce?
Speaker 13: And I don't know if the curfew is one of them.
Speaker 13: And you can't control how.
Speaker 14: Parents take care of their children, but you can control
Speaker 14: how police, you know, police.
Speaker 1: But let us not let this topic go before we
Speaker 1: part company today, Sarah, without pointing out that one of
Speaker 1: the most critical elements of the judicial system and the
Speaker 1: criminal justice system is having judges who are willing to
Speaker 1: issue higher bonds, take concern themselves with the societal concerns,
Speaker 1: which are you and me out here in the world,
Speaker 1: and also to uphold that concept of criminal justice punishment
Speaker 1: without punishment, it's not a deterrence.
Speaker 13: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: The hardest consequences, the hardest to fix. Beyond fixing the
Speaker 1: problems that these young people, notably at home. They have
Speaker 1: a terrible home life, They're going to become juvenile criminals,
Speaker 1: and they're going to go on and become adult criminals.
Speaker 1: It's demonstrably provens You know, I talked to a sociologists,
Speaker 1: so that seems to be the biggest problem out there,
Speaker 1: is the poor home life. But you can solve the
Speaker 1: judicial problem just bovoting better judges who promise to be
Speaker 1: tough on crime. Absolutely, Sarah Herringer, God bless you keep
Speaker 1: being a voice of logic and reason. It's people like
Speaker 1: you who are sadly in a position, but are in
Speaker 1: a position to make changes happen. It looks like we're
Speaker 1: going to have some good developments in Columbus this fall,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate Cindy Abrams working with you. Want to
Speaker 1: get the Patrick herringerac through and I'll ask my listeners
Speaker 1: to definitely get in touch with their representatives and senators
Speaker 1: in Columbus and tell them, what the hell, let's get
Speaker 1: this past this time, don't let it die in the Senate. Sarah,
Speaker 1: You're always welcome here.
Speaker 13: Thanks, thanks for having real.
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