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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have reached the eleven o'clock hour, and I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that a federal judge today has denied an urgent

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<v Speaker 2>request by governor This, according to KTLA in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 2>has denied an urgent request by Governor Gavin Newsom and

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<v Speaker 2>California Attorney General Rob Bonta to stop what they call

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<v Speaker 2>the unlawful militarization of Los Angeles by the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 2>over its immigration raids and subsequent protests. The ruling issue

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<v Speaker 2>just hours at the state of California filed a temporary

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<v Speaker 2>restraining order to block Trump in the US Department of

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<v Speaker 2>Defense from expanding the current mission of National Guard personnel

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<v Speaker 2>and marines in Los Angeles. US District Judge Charles Bryer,

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<v Speaker 2>the brother of former US Supreme Court Justice Steven also

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<v Speaker 2>granted the Trump administration's request for more time to respond

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<v Speaker 2>to the governor's filing. Hearing of that matter was scheduled

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<v Speaker 2>for Thursday. The bottom line here is from where I'm sitting,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm more than happy to criticize the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 2>but it appears to me that for several days, the

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<v Speaker 2>police department in Los Angeles was overwhelmed by the protesters.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard today that on an average night in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course nightfall is now coming to the West Coast,

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<v Speaker 2>there are as many as six thousand demonstrators in the streets. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched the video on the major networks, on the

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<v Speaker 2>cable stations, and I want to tell you what I

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<v Speaker 2>have seen. Okay, I can't tell you that I've watched

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<v Speaker 2>every broadcast, because I would be I would be disingenuous

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<v Speaker 2>if I told you that. But I have watched enough

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<v Speaker 2>enough to give you my impression. And my impression is

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<v Speaker 2>that the crazies on the left have decided that this

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<v Speaker 2>is the moment to try to recreate the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>Summer of Love, when cities like Seattle and Portland, Oregon

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<v Speaker 2>were under siege, when federal buildings were badly damaged, when

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<v Speaker 2>a police station in Minneapolis was burned to the ground,

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<v Speaker 2>when literally businesses were destroyed. And I think that the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration made a decision that the Los Angeles Police

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<v Speaker 2>Department couldn't handle the situation, and they did decide to

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<v Speaker 2>federalize the National Guard, the California National Guard. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>done before in this country, and it's interesting to hear

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic officials, including the mayor of Los Angeles, Karen Bass,

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<v Speaker 2>to argue about states rights. Sounded to me like the

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<v Speaker 2>same argument that the racist Democratic governors of the Deep South,

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<v Speaker 2>Les Dramatics and Orville Farbas and George Wallace and others

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<v Speaker 2>for many years used that. They were arguing that the

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<v Speaker 2>ninth and tenth Amendment would override any decision by the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government. So Trump sent in the National Guard, and

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<v Speaker 2>that seems to have a quieted things down. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>have of Governor Newsom, who obviously is looking at this as,

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, a way in which he can perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>start his presidential campaign in twenty twenty eight. And Rob,

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<v Speaker 2>I do have some some soundbites I'd like to play

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<v Speaker 2>here for you, just for them for my audience. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is Governor Newsom saying, I think making an outrageous statement.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a nine seconds it's cut number seven, Rob,

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<v Speaker 2>in which well, I want Governor Newsom to speak for himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not pulling any sort of a punch here. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's engaging in hyperbole that is way over the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Cut number seven Governor Gavin Newsom of it. We'll hold

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<v Speaker 2>up everybody to a higher level accountability. But that's not

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<v Speaker 2>what Trump is after. He's not for peacemaking. He's here

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<v Speaker 2>for war. He wants a civil war on the street.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, okay, Now, if you agree with Governor Newsom,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me how that comment is helpful. You have a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of crazy, crazy extremist on the left, just like

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<v Speaker 2>we had crazy extremists on the right on January sixth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, who decided they would take it upon

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<v Speaker 2>themselves to invade the US capital, and they were convinced

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<v Speaker 2>that they dressed up in paramilitary gear and all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And Donald Trump, I think was wrong not to call

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<v Speaker 2>off those dogs quicker on that day than he did.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that Donald Trump was wrong when he

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<v Speaker 2>pardoned all of them. Were there some individuals within that

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<v Speaker 2>group when the fish, when the net came out, that

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<v Speaker 2>were older people who who were not engaged in physical action,

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<v Speaker 2>who might have been deserving of a pardon based upon

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<v Speaker 2>the specific circumstances of their conviction. Yeah, yeah, But a

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<v Speaker 2>blanket pardon for the j six protesters, including some of

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<v Speaker 2>the Proud Boys who are now suing the federal government.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a break. So this is Newsom playing to

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<v Speaker 2>his extreme extremists, and he's hoping that this does end

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<v Speaker 2>up in some sort of a repeat, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty the summer of the Summer of Love. Twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Newsom could have called out the National Guard in California

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<v Speaker 2>to support the overmatched Los Angeles Police department, but he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So Donald Trump did. And I think that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>was was did the right thing in this situation. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you have federal officers and I guess there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be all sorts of protests this weekend, which is fine. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there was an election last November, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>the vast majority of American citizens who who decided that

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<v Speaker 2>on that issue immigration decided to vote for Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>But put all that aside. It wasn't a mandate. He

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<v Speaker 2>did have a mandate. He won an election. Now he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing what I think the majority of American people want.

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<v Speaker 2>Not everyone, not everyone, but he needs to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that his and I have criticized his ice officers who

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<v Speaker 2>have gone overboard with some of their arrest We don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to be they don't need to be arresting eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>years rolled high school students from Milford who were brought

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<v Speaker 2>here as children. They do not need to be arresting

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<v Speaker 2>graduate students from the Middle East who are studying at

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<v Speaker 2>Tufts University because on the pretense they vote, they wrote

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of a an editorial. It was like ninth

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<v Speaker 2>grade quality writing. That's it. They could have arrested it

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<v Speaker 2>for being a poor writer, but you know that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>still not a crime. So I'd love to know who

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<v Speaker 2>you're rooting for here. Are you rooting for what the Republicans,

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<v Speaker 2>what the Trump administration is doing, or do you think

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Newsom has taken the high road? Basically, Trump has

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<v Speaker 2>sidelined Newsom in his own state. Now, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>Newsom would have been very smart if, as a Democrat

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<v Speaker 2>he said, We're not going to stand by and watch

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<v Speaker 2>police cards burn. We're not going to stand by and

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<v Speaker 2>watch businesses burn. We're not going to stand by and

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<v Speaker 2>watch people assault of federal officers who are doing their job.

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<v Speaker 2>We might disagree with the job, but they are there

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<v Speaker 2>acting legally. We will challenge legally. But that was not

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<v Speaker 2>what Newsom decided to do. And I think Newsom has

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<v Speaker 2>written his own political obituary. If you agree, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>If you disagree, that's even better. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back on nights Side right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go to the phones, and again, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a subject that I think is very important. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a demonstration in Boston yesterday on City Hall Plaza,

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<v Speaker 2>actually I think at the JFK building spilled over on

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<v Speaker 2>the City Hall Plaza. There was a demonstration that I

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<v Speaker 2>saw tonight up at the State House on one of

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<v Speaker 2>the local new stations. From what I could tell, yesterday's

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<v Speaker 2>was completely peaceful. People said what they wanted to say.

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<v Speaker 2>They expressed their opinion, which is what we support. The

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<v Speaker 2>demonstration outside of the State House today may have spilled

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<v Speaker 2>onto Beacon Street, but I don't know that there was

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<v Speaker 2>any uh. And I'll be checking as I talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you in the next hour to if I need to

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<v Speaker 2>correct myself, I will. But so far, at least in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>demonstrations have been what they are intended to be demonstrations.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>In Los Angeles, that's not a demonstration. That's a riot.

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<v Speaker 2>Six thirty got a couple of lines there, and they

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<v Speaker 2>got a couple of lines at six one, seven, nine, three, one,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. Again, you are invited wherever you're listening. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>we're a Boston based and a New England based radio station,

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<v Speaker 2>but at this point our signal now is getting across

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<v Speaker 2>the country, and of course on the internet, we are everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Your point of view is welcome. Join the conversation. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to will and Long Island. Will you your thoughts welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>You're bat you next on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 4>I have a couple thoughts, but I'm generally somewhat conflicted,

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<v Speaker 4>but in this circumstance, not necessarily, especially given the history

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<v Speaker 4>of California and Los Angeles, right, especially given the history

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<v Speaker 4>under this president. Right, We've seen many times, probably in

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<v Speaker 4>the past, not just under this president's presidency in his

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<v Speaker 4>last presidency, but many times in the past that presidents

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<v Speaker 4>should have done this, especially in California. So this isn't

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<v Speaker 4>the first time, right. The I do have, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously some concerns about limiting free speech. Ever, but like

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<v Speaker 4>you said, this is it's more than a riot, and

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<v Speaker 4>with the history, I think this president, and it does

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<v Speaker 4>have the fear that we could see what happened in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty all over again. You know, they're all the

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<v Speaker 4>warning signs are there. That's what they want to do.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what they want to do for the entire course

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<v Speaker 4>of his presidency. Places like California, Seattle, and that entire

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<v Speaker 4>West coast.

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<v Speaker 2>We remember will they had in Seattle the autonomous zones

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<v Speaker 2>didn't allow the police and they were two young black

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<v Speaker 2>teenagers who had that in Chazz. Yeah, but there were

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<v Speaker 2>two kids who went in there out of curiosity and

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<v Speaker 1>Up being killed and died.

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<v Speaker 4>Right because because the definition of an insurrection is when

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<v Speaker 4>you take over an area by force and you do

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<v Speaker 4>not allow the government or emergency services or anything to function. Literally,

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<v Speaker 4>the definition of an insurrection happened in Chazz and in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 4>in the area where George Floyd was. So they had

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<v Speaker 4>no go zones in plenty of areas in this country,

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<v Speaker 4>even in New York over here in for a little while,

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<v Speaker 4>there was right in these spots where police were not

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<v Speaker 4>allowed in right, they had these rioters and insurrectionists lock

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<v Speaker 4>police inside of police stations while they tried to set

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<v Speaker 4>them on fire. And then the media told me it

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<v Speaker 4>was an autonomous zone. But I watched a four hour

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<v Speaker 4>riot happen at the capitol, and I understand your position

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<v Speaker 4>on that. We differ a little bit about that. But

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<v Speaker 4>I watched a four hour riot at the capitol happen,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was told from that day forward, January sixth

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<v Speaker 4>was an insurrection. That was an insurrection. But the actual

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<v Speaker 4>textbook definition that I watched in front of my face,

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<v Speaker 4>which is why words have meanings, which is why all

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<v Speaker 4>of these things the Left tries to do, and then

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<v Speaker 4>we brush it off as, oh, you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>the war of words is important because words have legal meanings,

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<v Speaker 4>and if they could confuse you and befuddle you and

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<v Speaker 4>get your mind melted and turn our intellectuals into soft

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<v Speaker 4>headed intellectuals in academia, that's how you wind up being

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<v Speaker 4>able to pass off what happened in Chas as an

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<v Speaker 4>autonomous zone and what happened on January sixth as an insurrection,

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<v Speaker 4>and they are literally the exact opposite of that. Oh

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<v Speaker 4>and by the way, if the President had used the

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<v Speaker 4>Insurrection Act on January sixth, by the time he got

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<v Speaker 4>the National Guard up, it was over. It was over

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a problem, and again I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to get into the into the semantics here. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a problem when you look at people who were

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<v Speaker 4>A riot breaks out and things happened. Maybe some people

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<v Speaker 2>Yea, yeah, again, no sense of us getting bogged down there.

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<v Speaker 2>Mexican flags. When I listened to someone today on CNN,

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<v Speaker 2>We took California and Arizona and New Mexico from New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>So therefore the implication was we should be waving Mexican flags.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you nuts? You want to have a war between

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you couldn't even take that. We took you the

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<v Speaker 4>alum all with a couple of handful of guys. There's

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<v Speaker 4>not going to be a war obviously with Mexico, say.

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<v Speaker 2>Used a lot of the rhetoric here. People have to

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<v Speaker 2>What he saw over the weekend had to be addressed

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<v Speaker 2>because if it hadn't been addressed, it would have gotten worse.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, you want to have riots, and you want

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 4>Just And the amazing part about this is that governors

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<v Speaker 4>and at times in Boston, Okay, and in these bastions

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<v Speaker 4>of left wing ideology, for them not to be doing

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<v Speaker 4>their job and protecting the general public is literally a

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<v Speaker 4>dereliction of duty. Okay, so not only to say don't

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<v Speaker 4>send in the National Guard, to not be calling for

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<v Speaker 4>it yourself, to protect your other constituents, not those rabid

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<v Speaker 4>I will say one thing about Gavin. Gavin has been

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously obviously the position himself for the next run. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>this is his move, right, He's right, but this is

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe three years from now the centrists forget that

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<v Speaker 4>he did this at this time, Okay, because whoever makes

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<v Speaker 4>the move to the center is who's going to win

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<v Speaker 4>the election. That's how you do it, right, And I

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<v Speaker 4>think he wants to for the you know, for the

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<v Speaker 4>transgenders and women's sports and these other issues. He said, listen,

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<v Speaker 4>We're losing these people. They're trying to make a push

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<v Speaker 4>to get them back. But right now, at this moment,

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<v Speaker 4>and get them all fired up again and then get

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<v Speaker 4>everybody hating Trump. He's going to find out this will backfire.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with you on that too. Thanks, so let

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<v Speaker 4>me call that. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate Tom, Thanks will appreciated much. Back to you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a great one. Tim is in Mouber and Tim,

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<v Speaker 2>you're next on Nightside, go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Then.

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<v Speaker 5>I couldn't agree with you more that way. In January

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<v Speaker 5>sixth were riots.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're well, they're riots. And as they say, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that there were people in January sixth who were figuring, somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>in their perverted view of the world, that that somehow

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<v Speaker 2>this was going to ignite a revolution across the country

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<v Speaker 2>and that Donald Trump was going to be returned to

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<v Speaker 2>the White House. And it didn't happen. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't happen, and it was never going to happen.

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<v Speaker 5>Based on it in that way. The burning, the burning,

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<v Speaker 5>cause they got people there that are causing the trouble.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it being paid the criminals. There's people there that

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<v Speaker 5>are being paid in their criminals. There are cause trouble,

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<v Speaker 5>it's out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think that this is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>little different from twenty twenty. In twenty twenty, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people got away with a lot of really bad stuff, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was kind of tolerated because there was a

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<v Speaker 2>sympathy abroad in the land for what happened to George Floyd.

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<v Speaker 2>Rightfully so. However, however, right now, when you see I

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<v Speaker 2>looked at videos today these punks, young punks, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if they were twenty or thirty or forty

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<v Speaker 2>or fifty, but they were punks whatever. The age was

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<v Speaker 2>masked up, and they had cinderblocks, pieces of cinderblocks, and

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<v Speaker 2>as these vehicles ice vehicles were driving by at a

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<v Speaker 2>they were heading somewhere to support, they're firing rocks at

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<v Speaker 5>Also, also they're getting on top of bridges and they're

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<v Speaker 5>dropping them down on cos right on civilian cars, on

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<v Speaker 2>That's as far as I'm concerned. You drop a cinder

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<v Speaker 2>block on top of an automobile on the one on one,

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever they call it out, I think it's the

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<v Speaker 2>one on one that's a tempted murder. As far as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned. That's an attempted murder, okay, and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that the Justice Department throws the book at these folks

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<v Speaker 5>That's what they andy out. By the way, I tell all,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you much, Tim. I appreciate that very much.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a man in Rubrin, that's for sure. We'll talk soon, okay, friend,

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you soon, buddy, Dan, You're welcome. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to break at the bottom of the ar and I

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<v Speaker 2>got some open lines, which always troubles me because if

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<v Speaker 2>you disagree with me, and you think what's going on

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<v Speaker 2>in California and Los Angeles tonight is free speech, pure

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<v Speaker 2>free speech, and you want to make that argument something

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<v Speaker 2>you want to associate yourself with. You can disagree with

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<v Speaker 2>Trump all you want on this program, absolutely, and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>join you in a lot of that disagreement. But I

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<v Speaker 2>folks are engaging in legitimate protests. They are engaged in riots.

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<v Speaker 2>And the only way to deal with riots is to

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<v Speaker 2>them to the fullest extent of the law. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>tonight about a Globe Boston Globe Suffolk University poll tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>get that it says, as I understand that it's called

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<v Speaker 2>you enjoyed that you said what you wanted to say,

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<v Speaker 2>the program. Of course, this is a talk show, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to call. Whether you agree to disagree,

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<v Speaker 2>all points of view welcome. Uh Again. I know Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got full lines, which is great, So let's try

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing, Dan F.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick? Hope you are as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So you know when I see this thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that there's this sort of flow where there's a provocation created,

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<v Speaker 3>attempted murder. We've seen in Massachusetts, kids on the side

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<v Speaker 3>way as to punish the responders. So there's a provocation

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<v Speaker 3>and they cover it ad nauseum, day in, day out,

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<v Speaker 3>over and over and over again, bashing the good guys,

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<v Speaker 3>bashing the good guys, bashing the good guys, until low

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<v Speaker 3>information voters who aren't paying attention actually believe that the

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<v Speaker 3>good guys are the bad guys. And I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is something I've seen over the years, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that this is being a fashion. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I read one time I saw a guy you might know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think his name is Berliner from NPI is about

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<v Speaker 3>for years. He's a member of the media for probably

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<v Speaker 3>the last thirty forty years, and he left NPR maybe

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<v Speaker 3>a year or two ago.

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<v Speaker 2>As a guy named Berlin. Is that who you're talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so, yeah, I think that's his first name.

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<v Speaker 3>But I remember his last thing is like Berliner was

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<v Speaker 3>he went on he went on U, he went on

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<v Speaker 3>a show with h Uh, this reporter who covered what,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, his departure from NPR and when he looked

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<v Speaker 3>at NPR of Washington. This is a direct quote.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>In d C, where MPR is headquartered, many of us

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<v Speaker 3>live I found eighty seven registered Democrats working in editorial

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<v Speaker 3>positions and zero Republicans.

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<v Speaker 5>None.

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<v Speaker 3>That is Berliner, who's a far more credible guy than

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<v Speaker 3>I am want to I think over the last thirty years,

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<v Speaker 3>probably a guy as esteemed as you in the press

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<v Speaker 3>as somebody who's who's whose credentials can't be can't be

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<v Speaker 3>even questioned. And so what happens is that that you

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<v Speaker 3>have this massive bite there's just one example. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 3>as a result of this, you have this situation now

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<v Speaker 3>where even today there's this like this legacy where when

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<v Speaker 3>now you see press coverage attacking Trump as if as

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<v Speaker 3>though enforcing the law is this terrible thing. The majority

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<v Speaker 3>of the people in the United States voted for this

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<v Speaker 3>president to enforce immigration laws. And I just find it

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<v Speaker 3>amazing that mayors and governors a major states fill as

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<v Speaker 3>though they can choose which laws they want to abide

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<v Speaker 3>buy and which ones they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's a couple of strands to your conversation, A

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<v Speaker 2>couple of strands to your conversation. One. I think ABC

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<v Speaker 2>News Terry Moran proved over the weekend that there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who have posed as being fear reporters

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<v Speaker 2>who once you have you know, once they're allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>to to text or tweet after midnight on a Saturday night.

463
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<v Speaker 2>He was the reporter and the ABC reporter who's been

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<v Speaker 2>suspended for making some comments about one of Trump's uh

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<v Speaker 2>support of Trump's staff. People got that guy, Steven Miller,

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<v Speaker 2>who I'm not I'm not enthralled by. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>think that Miller comes across as a as a tough guy.

468
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<v Speaker 2>But whatever. So the one thing I want to mention

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<v Speaker 2>you is that today California judge did not grant the

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<v Speaker 2>Temporaries the t R O requested by Gavin Mill by

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<v Speaker 2>Gavin Newsom regarding the administration's deployment of federalized State National

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<v Speaker 2>Guard troops uh in Marines to southern California. Now, the judge,

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<v Speaker 2>Charles Bryer, was appointed by Bill Clinton and Stephen Bryer's brother,

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<v Speaker 2>former US Supreme Court judge, has set a hearing for Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact of the matter is that the standard

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<v Speaker 2>for t R is fairly fairly low in a situation

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<v Speaker 2>like this, and the fact that Judge District Court Judge

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<v Speaker 2>Charles Bryer chose not to enjoin the president certainly augues, well,

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<v Speaker 2>for the administration. The thing that is funny about this, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>is that yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But but the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>is funny about this is that you have the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>essentially arguing that this is a violation of states' rights,

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<v Speaker 2>that that the federal government does not have a role

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<v Speaker 2>to play here. Uh. And that's to me fascinating because

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<v Speaker 2>that's the argument that conservatives used to use, the strict

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<v Speaker 2>constructionists who had said, you know, rights not given to

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<v Speaker 2>the state, or deny the federal government. And it's also

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<v Speaker 2>the argument states rights argument last really utilized by the

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<v Speaker 2>likes the ilk of George Wallace, Lester Maddox, or Ville Farbis.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the world has gone crazy. I mean, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Dan, can I ask you this one question?

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<v Speaker 1>So, so, another another.

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<v Speaker 3>Article I saw on this I just was looking up

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<v Speaker 3>while I was sitting here was an article about the

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<v Speaker 3>Washington Post back in the day where Tony Kornheiser, of

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<v Speaker 3>all people sports colonists, yeah, out of forty nine top editors,

497
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<v Speaker 3>was the only Republican at the Washington Post in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>ninety all right, so that's thirty five years ago. And

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<v Speaker 3>so this is an ongoing rampant systematic discrimination taking place

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<v Speaker 3>by media organizations across the United States to produce a

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<v Speaker 3>single voice of no dissent. Which is why it's amazing

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<v Speaker 3>you survived in this structure all these years, which is

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<v Speaker 3>why I'm so impressed by you. How you survived this long.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. First of all, as a reporter, no one knew

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<v Speaker 2>what my politics were if I could cover anybody, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was thrilled when someone would say to me, we

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<v Speaker 2>watch you on TV for ten years, fifteen years, thirty years,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years, whatever, we don't know what your politics are.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a reporter, You're not supposed to know my politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm a commentator, and I'm I think I try

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<v Speaker 2>to look at both sides fairly. Well, I'm Patrick. I

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<v Speaker 2>really appreciate your time, but I've given you seven minutes

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<v Speaker 2>and I got to run here. I got four folks

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<v Speaker 2>coming up behind you. Thanks Patrick. We will talk soon.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Again, the argument, I know sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>a legal argument, but generally it was the Republicans or

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<v Speaker 2>you know who were talking the federal members of the

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<v Speaker 2>Federalist Society who always talking about the value of the

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<v Speaker 2>ninth and tenth amendment, which is fine, but that that

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<v Speaker 2>was last utilized by democratic, racist, democratic governors, and now

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<v Speaker 2>it's being utilized by Governor Newsom, saying essentially, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>state's rights argument. It's it's amazing, and that's I speak

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<v Speaker 2>as a lawyer when I described that to you, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court decision dealing with the Arizona case said

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<v Speaker 2>essentially that federal immigration law is reserved for the federal government.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't see where they go here legally. This time,

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<v Speaker 2>we got four callers. I'm gonna get all of those in.

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<v Speaker 2>Christine and Tom and Donna and Rick. You are all set,

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<v Speaker 2>I promise, but we're gonna have to be quick. I

531
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<v Speaker 2>gave Patrick much more dime than that I probably should have,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was worth it. We'll be back on Nightside

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<v Speaker 2>right after this quick messages coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I want to get four in, so everyone's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be quick and Christine's gonna set the standard. Christine

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<v Speaker 2>next on Nightsider, right ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>How are you doing, Dan, I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 2>Christine. What's your thought on what's going on across the

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<v Speaker 2>country tonight? Apparently there was a city council meeting in

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<v Speaker 2>Worcester that was disrupted by ICE protesters tonight, so that

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna see more of this in the days ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought tonight now on the news that they're gonna

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<v Speaker 7>set a curfew for la tonight eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think that curfew has just passed, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think they're doing the right thing because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned. Yeah, they can't let this stuff get out

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<v Speaker 2>of control.

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<v Speaker 7>No, but like, why can't Tho Trump, Why can't he

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<v Speaker 7>make a thing out of the ICE agents to stop

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<v Speaker 7>it all? Why can't he make a point of, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>saying something They just I know they're trying to do

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<v Speaker 7>everything in the right way, but some of it is

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<v Speaker 7>just crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think what they need to do is to

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<v Speaker 2>focus on the bad guys and make sure that the

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<v Speaker 2>people who they're picking up. I don't think that it

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<v Speaker 2>helps to pick up an eighteen year old high school

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<v Speaker 2>student from Milford. I don't think. As I've said before,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just bad optics and it's the quote of public opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, maybe that kid is here illegally. He was

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<v Speaker 2>brought here at the age of five by his parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Deal with that, not now, deal with that at some

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<v Speaker 2>point when you've got the so called bad guys out

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<v Speaker 2>out of the country. That's that was what he was

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<v Speaker 2>elected to do. Well, make a.

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<v Speaker 7>Point of that, Tump, Tump should do something about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I will keep we can keep it here all nights.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going to listen to us. But that's okay, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you remember I forget what it was about when

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<v Speaker 7>they were crazy that time in Boston they were brought

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<v Speaker 7>in all the the storas and damage and all to us.

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<v Speaker 7>I forget.

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<v Speaker 2>There was some George Floyd's stuff there also was there

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<v Speaker 2>before that, there was what was called Occupy Wall Street

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 7>So I was talking to I was talking to people

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<v Speaker 7>about this night. What's the point of doing all that?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't What's what's the point.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a lot of them are anarchists. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>them are people who just they have nothing and they're anarchists.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as simple as that, Christine. And they they feel

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<v Speaker 2>that they're they're like a kid throwing a temperatentrum. Christine,

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<v Speaker 2>I got three more. I'm gonna try to sneak everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you much. Talk to you soon. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a great night. Let me go to Donna and framing him. Donnie,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta be quick for me. I'm sorry, go right ahead, Donna.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree with the bulk of what you're saying. Over

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<v Speaker 6>the last few days, I've had a thought. So yep,

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<v Speaker 6>remember Kent State. I hope that doesn't happen again.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely horrific event. Horrific event. And uh you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>control the people who you put out there with with weapons.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not even sure that if they have live rounds.

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<v Speaker 2>They they might have uh, you know, pepper spray and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that, and they may they may have bayonets

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<v Speaker 2>in the end of uh you know, guns, weapons, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that that they're going to give those

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<v Speaker 2>guys live rounds under the circumstances, because I hope, but.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry, go ahead, agree with I remember the iconic

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<v Speaker 6>photo and you must.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, right Oh sure, absolutely, the woman with the out

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<v Speaker 2>stretched over the guy who who has been shocked.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, that's making me nervous. I hope something like that

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm totally with you, Donna. Thank you. I promise I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give you more time next time. I promise. Okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fine. Yep, go ahead, thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much, real quickly, okay, Tom and Norton. Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta be quick because they want to get to

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<v Speaker 2>Rick and Bill Ricker as well.

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<v Speaker 8>Go ahead, Tom, Yeah, Well we're a fighter clock there.

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<v Speaker 8>I saw a video today where it was they were

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<v Speaker 8>passing out protective space shields to the to the rioters.

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<v Speaker 8>Protesters who also brought those supplies down there. Didn't do

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<v Speaker 8>that for the protection of the rioters. They just have

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<v Speaker 8>to embolden them. They're trying to encourage conflicts. They want bloodshed.

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<v Speaker 8>Then they can dance around on the bluz and say,

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<v Speaker 8>look what the terrible government did. They're not doing a

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<v Speaker 8>service to these people by bringing that tool and now

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<v Speaker 8>the things on the ground there. As soon as the

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<v Speaker 8>first marine goes down that it's it's gonna change everything

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<v Speaker 8>and it's gonna be hard to pull back from that.

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<v Speaker 8>I hope that doesn't happen. This is a very dangerous situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>Anytime you attack public servants like that on that level

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<v Speaker 8>of embolden like all, well, watching it now, you've lost

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<v Speaker 8>your credibility.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm done.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm listening to you. Once you stop destroying cop cars,

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<v Speaker 8>and trying.

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<v Speaker 2>No no question, no question about it, and uh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of productive. But from the perspective of people who

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<v Speaker 2>want to bring the government down, meaning they don't like

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<v Speaker 2>a democratic or republican government. They they want whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>view of the perfect world is, whatever their view of

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<v Speaker 2>the perfect social order, is simple as that some of those.

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<v Speaker 8>People just might be looking for the opportunity to smash

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<v Speaker 8>the stuff and actively.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you gotta do some of those in there.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it. Good, Thanks, Tom, appreciate you call again. Rick.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for making room for Rick. Rick and Bill. Rick,

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<v Speaker 2>I got about forty seconds for you. Rick.

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<v Speaker 3>We can do We can do it. Tom, Will and

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick and yourself all have great insight and I'm right

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<v Speaker 3>there with you, great insights. It's the summer of love

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<v Speaker 3>again and it's it's it's ridiculous, but this time Trump's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna stop it from getting out of control. And he should.

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin Newsom's a drama queen. He wants he should be

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<v Speaker 3>an actor. He just wants to get in the when

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<v Speaker 3>he wants to try to convince the people of California

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<v Speaker 3>that he really cares. And he's a fake, a massive fake.

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<v Speaker 3>So's he's probably an okay, guy, but he's more of

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<v Speaker 3>an actor. He ought to go to Hollywood and not

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<v Speaker 3>try to run California.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you should go. I think you should go

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<v Speaker 2>have lunch at the French laundry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, no kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>So he can be with so he can be with

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<v Speaker 2>the people. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I don't know how people can be

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<v Speaker 3>fool But he's a Hollywood He looks like he's from Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 3>and I just I just don't want it to turn

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<v Speaker 3>into the Summer of Love again or or this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the Summer of love and it was really the summer.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really the summer of hate. But but you've

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<v Speaker 2>described well what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Is during that summer of twenty twenty and then but

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<v Speaker 3>it lasted about a year and a half or something,

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<v Speaker 3>and thirty three people died and they shouldn't live.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet. I hate to do this to you, man,

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<v Speaker 2>but you've got more time than I think that I

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<v Speaker 2>could have given him up against it. Thanks Rick, great call,

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<v Speaker 2>Done for the night. Everybody back tomorrow night. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the legacy of Michael Decaccas with a new biography

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<v Speaker 2>which I think you'll enjoy. Tomorrow night that'll be at

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<v Speaker 2>eleven o'clock and my name's Dan Ray. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>thank Rob Brooks, want to thank Karen Bussemi who was

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<v Speaker 2>our producer. Today. I'll remind you all dogs, all cats,

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<v Speaker 2>all pets go to heaven. That's my Pelle, Charlie Rayes,

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<v Speaker 2>who passed fifteen years ago in February. That's why all

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<v Speaker 2>your pets are who passed. They loved you when you

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<v Speaker 2>love them. I do believe you'll see them again. And

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<v Speaker 2>I will see you again tomorrow night at eight o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see tomorrow at pre pro at pregame at four

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<v Speaker 2>point thirty and I'll be on NIGHTE Saute with Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Ray on Facebook in about two minutes. See you there, everybody,