WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:10.960 Hello, and welcome to Castle of Horror, the show dedicated 2 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:14.160 to horror movies and awesomeness. We are a feat Spot 3 00:00:14.199 --> 00:00:17.760 top one hundred horror podcast. This week we have a 4 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:21.640 look at the nineteen sixty eight Hammer Dracula film Dracula 5 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:25.120 Has Risen from the Grave. This is episode four hundred 6 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:27.679 and sixty two. Bear in mind if you haven't seen 7 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:29.879 today's movie, we're going to be talking here about up 8 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:32.359 from the perspective of horror fans who have seen it, 9 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:35.439 So warning spoilers ahead. From Denver, Colorado, I'm your host, 10 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:39.119 Jason Henderson, publisher at Castlebridge Media, home of the Castle 11 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:42.640 of Horror anthology. With me from Austin is Tony Savaggio, 12 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:45.039 lead singer and Basins of the band Deserts of Mars 13 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:47.799 and lead guitarist of the band Rise from Fireus Hey Loo, 14 00:00:47.880 --> 00:00:51.679 Tony Howdy Howdy, also in Austin. Mister Drew Edwards is 15 00:00:51.759 --> 00:00:55.039 the writer creator of the long running underground comic Halloween Man, 16 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:57.640 which you can find at Global Comics. He is a 17 00:00:57.679 --> 00:01:01.039 Best Writer Ringo nominee, Austin Chronic Best of Boston Award 18 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:03.960 winner and a member of the Pen American Fellowship Say Hello. 19 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:11.120 Drew who has done this thing? Uh? 20 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:15.519 And finally also in Denver color. Commentary from a woman 21 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:18.480 that I walked with on a on a walking tour 22 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:22.959 of Haunted Denver this weekend, Julia Guzman of Guzman Immigration 23 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:23.640 of Denver Cy. 24 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:23.879 Hello. 25 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:28.319 Hello. I have to say that the ghost tour was 26 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:31.920 led by the host of Kessel Horror podcast, So that 27 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:33.359 was pretty That's true. 28 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:35.680 It was really, it was really a blast. It was 29 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:38.959 I spent like two weeks studying for that, and then 30 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:41.400 and then and then we hit and it was it 31 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:44.359 was great. We all learned all about haunted uh, Haunted 32 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:45.400 Denver all. 33 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:47.519 Right, super entertaining, super interesting. 34 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:50.200 Oh thank you. Some of it even brought me to tears. 35 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:52.439 There was like there's like one element of it that 36 00:01:52.480 --> 00:01:55.319 literally just made me cry every time. So I was 37 00:01:55.359 --> 00:01:58.439 I was really moved by that. Okay. Dracula Has Risen 38 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:01.840 from the Grave is a nineteen six British supernatural horror 39 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:06.560 film directed by Freddy Francis and produced by Hammer Film Productions. 40 00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:09.319 Francis was the director of Tales from the Crip, Who's 41 00:02:09.360 --> 00:02:11.960 like one of my favorite Amicus movies. It is the 42 00:02:12.039 --> 00:02:15.639 fourth entry and Hammer's Dracula series third to feature Chris 43 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:18.479 Furley as Count Dracula. This is number three with Chris 44 00:02:18.599 --> 00:02:22.639 Furlee the and the film stars Rupert Davies as a 45 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:26.879 clergyman who exorcises Dracula's castle and in doing so, Udding 46 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:30.960 unwittingly resurrects the Count back from the dead. Dracula Has 47 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:34.240 Risen from the Grave also stars Veronica Carlson, Barry Andrews, 48 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:37.800 Barbara Ewing, Ewen Hooper, and the One and Only beloved 49 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:40.759 Michael Ripper. It was followed by Taste the Blood of 50 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:44.479 Dracula in nineteen seventy. All right, so let's get our 51 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:49.120 opening thoughts, just a few thoughts to get us going. 52 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:51.919 I cannot wait to talk about this movie. This movie 53 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:54.719 is so beautiful that it has been oftentimes my desktop 54 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:58.319 on my phone. Let's go Drew, Julia Toni, and then 55 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:01.960 I'll go monsieur Drew. What are your opening thoughts? Dracula 56 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:02.840 Has Risen from the Grave. 57 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:08.520 I think this is a really really interesting entry in 58 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:13.400 uh the Dracula the Hammer Dracula canon. I think this 59 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:19.800 is one of the first that that really seems like 60 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:24.199 it's aimed squarely at the youth culture, and you have 61 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:28.400 this much more skewed idea of religion, and you have, 62 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:33.039 of course a you know, a a main character who 63 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:35.560 is an atheist, which I think is a really novel 64 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:40.919 idea for this, this kind of vampire movie. I think 65 00:03:41.400 --> 00:03:45.520 that it's got a lot of really interesting, conflicted kind 66 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:51.439 of characters, which is really really really great when you 67 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:55.240 put them up against the in particular the Christopher lee 68 00:03:55.800 --> 00:04:01.560 Uh version of Dracula, who, above anything else about his character, 69 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:05.400 is definitely not conflicted. You know, when he has a goal, 70 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:09.919 he goes right for it. You know, everybody else in 71 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:14.800 this movie is much more, let's say, all over the 72 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:19.959 place in their journey. I think also, unlike a lot 73 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:23.000 of the other Hammer movies, and this isn't a knock 74 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:26.319 necessarily because I enjoy almost I mean, you can go 75 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:29.160 back through this podcast and listen. I enjoy almost every 76 00:04:29.279 --> 00:04:33.240 Hammer movie we review. But a lot of the characters 77 00:04:33.319 --> 00:04:37.360 have a much more point A to point B kind 78 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:42.120 of arc to them in this movie. And I, you know, 79 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:45.680 as somebody that has spent my life writing, I really 80 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:49.879 appreciate that. And I don't know, I just think it's real. 81 00:04:50.199 --> 00:04:53.639 You know, we'll get more into it, but especially this 82 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:55.879 time watching it, because this is a movie I have 83 00:04:56.040 --> 00:04:58.959 seen a lot, and it is in fact one of 84 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:02.839 the first DVD that I ever bought. You know, it's 85 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:04.879 so it's a movie I've seen a hell of a lot, 86 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:08.560 but I got even more out of watching it this 87 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:13.000 time when we were doing it so close to some 88 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:16.240 of the other Hammer Draculus. You know, I think it's 89 00:05:16.439 --> 00:05:21.680 it's it's an interesting jump in both style and and 90 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:24.720 you know text as well. And you know, I don't 91 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:29.439 want to give necessarily my whole thesis statement in my 92 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:32.439 opening thoughts, because I do have a lot of thoughts, 93 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:35.040 but I kind of want to save it for the conversation. 94 00:05:35.519 --> 00:05:38.399 But needless to say, I think this is a really interesting. 95 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.439 Movie, wonderful. Thank you very much for kicking it off. 96 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:43.639 That's great, Julia. I think you liked this one a lot. 97 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.720 I mean you seem to what are your what are 98 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:46.160 your thoughts? 99 00:05:46.279 --> 00:05:48.040 I mean I liked a lot of things about it, 100 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:50.839 But there was I sort of it was two minds 101 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:54.959 going through, Like some of the movie felt pretty unoriginal, 102 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:57.160 and then other then there was a couple of things 103 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:59.959 where I was like, well that's really interesting, but it's 104 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.720 just kind of I think, I don't know, I didn't 105 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:05.600 get a whole lot from the script, but I did, like, 106 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:08.000 I mean, I know you're a big fan of the set, Jason, 107 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:11.959 and the yeah, the idea, a couple of the ideas 108 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.040 behind it, especially the you know, the atheist hero that 109 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:18.439 was very interesting. So I think there's some moments that 110 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:21.000 I'm looking forward to discussing and hearing what you guys 111 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:22.879 have to say. But I feel like a lot of 112 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:25.959 it was just kind of like, okay, like checkbox, a 113 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:29.360 bunch of checkboxes for a Hammer Dracula film, which you know, 114 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:31.959 I mean, that's that's what makes it a Hammer Dracular film, 115 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.920 is that text boxes. So I think it's fine. 116 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:37.519 I love that idea that you could have a Hammer 117 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:40.120 Dracula film be sort of like a James Bond movie, 118 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:43.360 that there has to be like points along the way 119 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:45.199 that you have to do the thing, you have to 120 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:47.839 have a certain element, you have to have the plot 121 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:50.920 do a certain thing. And that's really wild that just 122 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:54.279 you know, this is the third Christopher Lee Dracula movie, 123 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:58.920 and already there are recognizable elements that they have to hit. Tony, 124 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:00.279 what are your thoughts. 125 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:03.879 Julia, I think Rain actually commented on something really similar, 126 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:06.319 likes like, how many drag movies do we have? And 127 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:11.920 how many this, this, this, and this now I I yeah, 128 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:15.240 there you get I, you know, but even that, like 129 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:19.240 I was kind of in between you and Drew because 130 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:21.879 I don't know if this is Mike, this certainly wouldn't 131 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:25.680 be up there my favorite Dracula movie. But one thing 132 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:30.560 I love about watching these hammered Dracula is even if 133 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:32.759 there is kind of hey, Dracula's going to do this 134 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:34.680 and then this is going to happen, et cetera, he 135 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:37.399 is going to, you know, seduce this woman, Like there's 136 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:39.720 I have yet to see one where there isn't like 137 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:43.199 several things that are fascinating or interesting you know that, 138 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:45.480 Oh well look, you know this one has a lot 139 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:49.120 of this rooftop stuff. It's got you know, an. 140 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:49.959 Arc for the character. 141 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:53.360 It's got a you know, Draculu's helper being a priest, 142 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:54.639 you know, his Renfield. 143 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:55.920 Like Andrew was saying, like. 144 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:59.040 That's that's interesting that that doesn't happen very often. So 145 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:02.920 there's all these bits, you know, the while they do 146 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:07.160 with while they deal with crosses, there's also a prayer 147 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:10.959 slash you know, mystical like ritual element to it. As 148 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.920 well for getting rid of a vampire in this So 149 00:08:14.079 --> 00:08:18.279 the way that they go through the mythos as well 150 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.120 is really interesting. So while it's not my favorite, I've 151 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:27.480 always just really intrigued at how you get something interesting 152 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:31.920 no matter what, and that that's something you can't say. 153 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.279 For for kind of every franchise. 154 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.919 So I really enjoy I enjoy that aspect perhaps the most. 155 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:40.000 I really I thank you very much to me. I 156 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:44.360 really appreciate that there is a continuity such because we've 157 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:47.120 talked all the time about how films of this era 158 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:50.720 often wouldn't really bother attempting much at continuity, and so 159 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:54.120 it's always so wonderful when they actually do, like when 160 00:08:54.159 --> 00:08:57.679 you leave Frankenstein's Monster underground and you find them later 161 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:00.360 underground and a block of ice, I mean. And so 162 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:03.840 it's always nice when when you're like, hey, they're they're 163 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:06.639 doing a continuity thing, even when they know that that 164 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:11.639 people we barely people of of prior decades before home video, 165 00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:14.480 you know, you had no reason to expect that they 166 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:16.879 would remember how the last that ends. But I love 167 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:20.039 that they do this, and and uh so, uh uh, 168 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.320 let's just go right into it, because I want to 169 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:24.960 talk about Dracula in this So first I want to 170 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:29.480 talk about how he is resurrected, because Hammer Dracula always 171 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:33.480 starts out dead and always gets resurrected, well, with a few, 172 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.200 with a few, uh, with some with some exceptions, but 173 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:40.799 often it feels like the cliche. It feels like one 174 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:42.320 of the rules of the road that they're hitting. 175 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:44.720 And that would be the first one of the ones 176 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:47.159 I'm talking about where I'm like, oh, here we go 177 00:09:47.200 --> 00:09:50.679 again with somebody just delivering blood to Dracula. 178 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:55.120 Yeah. So you remember at the end of Dracula Prince 179 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:59.639 of Darkness, Uh, Dracula and Barbara Shelley were out on 180 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:04.039 the eye and the ice was was over a river, 181 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:08.480 over running water in a moat around Dracula's castle, and 182 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:13.320 so the the roving anti vampire priest shot at the 183 00:10:13.360 --> 00:10:16.840 ice and Dracula fell in and it was great. I mean, 184 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:21.159 I just never get enough of the beautiful awesomeness of 185 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:24.799 that of Dracula's icy demise. It never looks real, but 186 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:26.840 it looks like you're on a dark ride with Dracula 187 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:29.759 in it. And I dig that. So in this movie, 188 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:33.120 Dracula's still under that ice. I just think that's great. 189 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:36.039 They don't even bother to mention it to his dialogue. 190 00:10:36.039 --> 00:10:38.720 They're just like, Dracula died a year ago and later 191 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:39.919 we find him in a river. 192 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:43.759 Well they say did they say? They do say, did 193 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:47.320 you know did he not die in your mountain stream 194 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:51.399 or whether something to the Okay. 195 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:53.200 Well, you didn't get he didn't flow that far. That's 196 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:55.240 the other thing. He's kind of got stuck right outside 197 00:10:55.320 --> 00:10:58.200 the castle, like we expect him to kind of flow 198 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:00.720 out to see, but nope, he did kind of got 199 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:02.320 stuck on the grating or something. 200 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:04.559 Yeah, I mean so much for running water, Like, doesn't 201 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:06.120 seem to have run very much right. 202 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:08.440 Well, you know, he's sort of large, so he just 203 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:12.360 get hung up on something and you know, so he's there, 204 00:11:12.399 --> 00:11:15.679 which is so silly. I would have been great there, 205 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:17.919 Like Dracula, you know, he gets his blood. He's like, 206 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:23.360 oh crap, I'm just stuck in this bike because rebirth. 207 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:26.519 I'm here at the bottom of a damn with a 208 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:32.399 giant catfish. That's just like it's stuck there making friends 209 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:34.399 with the catfish. And you know when we get out 210 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:34.679 of here. 211 00:11:34.720 --> 00:11:38.600 What I love about the beginning of this movie is 212 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:42.600 you sort of have to accept that deer in all 213 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:47.840 of the action of uh, Dracula Prints of Darkness. Yeah, 214 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:53.240 Dracula mosied over to this church, killed a girl, hung 215 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:56.120 her up, hung her up in the bell tower, and 216 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.960 they went right back into the age. 217 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:02.960 It's a really good point because he had been dust 218 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:06.759 prior to that, until they until they hung up Paul. 219 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.960 I guess if okay, wait, wait, wait, you've lost me 220 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:12.519 and I just watched this movie. Why don't we start 221 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:13.120 from the beginning. 222 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:16.639 Okay, Dracula Prince of Darkness the movie before this, Remember, 223 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:19.159 Dracula starts out as dust because he had turned to 224 00:12:19.240 --> 00:12:21.919 dust at the end of the first movie. Okay, Then 225 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:25.120 the two couples come to visit Dracula in his castle, 226 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:27.559 and then in the night, one of them, Paul, is 227 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:31.159 murdered and hung up by his heels and his throat slit, 228 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:33.080 and that blood brings Dracula back. 229 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:33.559 Right. 230 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:37.720 Yes, of course, this movie establishes that wild Racula is 231 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:41.679 awakened and messing around with those couples and doing all 232 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:44.200 this stuff he does in that movie. He also went 233 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:47.720 into this town and killed a girl and hung her 234 00:12:47.840 --> 00:12:49.600 up in a bell tower, and then went back to 235 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:53.399 the business of Dracula, Prince of Darkness, and then he 236 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:54.320 got killed on the ice. 237 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:58.600 It happened, but before Dracula was killed. It's not something 238 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:02.600 else I thought maybe I thought maybe it was somebody 239 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:04.360 another vampire that don't. 240 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:08.519 No, there's there's a time lapse, okay, the which is 241 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:11.120 why we get all the depressed villagers that won't go 242 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:16.720 the church because the shadow of the castle falls on it. 243 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:19.840 It's a bit it's a bit convoluted, I admit. But 244 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.960 one of the things that I love about it is 245 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:27.080 that if it means is if this monsignor had just 246 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:32.360 let the townspeople not go the church, right, none of 247 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:33.360 this would have happened. 248 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:38.840 Okay, so so so on on playing monign advocate here, 249 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:43.840 I would say that he would rather save their souls 250 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:47.240 than save their bodies. Now, of course if they turn advantage. 251 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:51.879 Yeah, but he is. But that's the That's the thing 252 00:13:51.919 --> 00:13:56.279 that's kind of fascinating to me about this character is 253 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:00.360 he's sort of he reminds me a bit of Father 254 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:08.679 Sandor from from the previous movie, but he's in Sandor 255 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:13.639 is kind of charming in his abrasiveness. This guy, when 256 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:18.080 he goes abrasive, just he kind of you know, oscillates 257 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:21.399 between being very warm and fuzzy and then being a 258 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:25.279 straight up dickhead. And the way he he sort of 259 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:30.000 bullies this this drunken priest into going up into the 260 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:35.159 mountains and performing an exorcism with him is super dickish. 261 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:40.120 And I I don't know if that was intentional, but 262 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:43.279 I kind of hope it was because I think this 263 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:49.799 movie has a much more complex relationship with a religious 264 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:54.320 authority figure that it's sort of it's sort of getting 265 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:56.840 you know, if you look at this in the the 266 00:14:57.039 --> 00:15:02.039 Larger Cannon of Hammer vampire films, you know, like you 267 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:05.919 think think about twins of evil, like Peter Cushing's character 268 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:10.279 in that who is a minister, but he's also just 269 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:15.159 a straight up villain. This character, yeah, this character is 270 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:19.480 not that. But it is showing a sort of a 271 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:25.080 starting of a strained relationship with with religious faith in 272 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:27.639 these movies that I find really interesting. 273 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.840 That's the the I like. I like that you said that. 274 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.440 I just want to point out that this You're right, 275 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:37.840 that this guy is very conflicted because, for instance, when 276 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:40.759 they climb up to Dracula's castle and by the way, okay, 277 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:42.720 one thought at a time when they climb up to 278 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:46.039 Dracula's castle. He does allow the priest to remain behind. 279 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:50.159 He's like, look, it's okay if you know, if you 280 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:51.320 don't have the energy. 281 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:54.159 Yeah, because his premise was that he needed a guide, 282 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:55.440 basically right, But. 283 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:58.559 He leaves him behind, and because the guy's too afraid 284 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:01.240 to go up, and I thought it was it's actually 285 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:04.840 fairly mention of him to leave him behind, Like he's like, 286 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:06.919 it's okay, you can you can wait here. You don't 287 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:07.679 have to go all the way. 288 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.679 But you know what a bit even more minshi, Yeah, 289 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:15.679 just letting the people be right and not setting in 290 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:18.279 motion a Dracula rampage. 291 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:22.000 I suppose. I suppose that is true, but I just 292 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:22.879 wanted to mention. 293 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:26.360 That nobody does achieve his task of making the castle 294 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:27.919 Dracula proof anyway. 295 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.320 Coaches, Well, that that's sort of Drew's points is that 296 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:34.000 is that you know these things, every action has an 297 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:36.519 equal and opposite reaction. Like he goes to exercise the 298 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:38.720 castle and make it so Dracula can't use it, and 299 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:40.960 Dracula goes on a gosh darn rampage. 300 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:44.600 The only reason Dracula goes on a rampage is because 301 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:46.679 he accidentally got brought back to life, which was not 302 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:48.600 the intention of the right. 303 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:51.320 Yeah, I'm just saying that this is a movie that 304 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:54.600 would be better off if everybody in this movie would 305 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:56.679 have been better off if he had just said, you 306 00:16:56.720 --> 00:16:59.440 know what, you're a drunk priest. Yeah, olive your breath, 307 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:05.000 best life. You know, let's maybe build a new church 308 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:10.519 that's not in the shadow of Castle Dracula. I will say, 309 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:14.240 I will say, you know, I'm not saying any of 310 00:17:14.279 --> 00:17:17.759 this is to the movies detriment. I actually like this 311 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:21.160 stuff about this movie because I think it makes all 312 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:25.200 the characters much more interesting because he is well intended, 313 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:30.279 Like he's not you know, he's not cartoonish when he's 314 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:34.680 being he thinks he's he thinks he's doing the right thing, 315 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:37.920 and it's sort of the road the hell is paved 316 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:39.200 with good intentions. 317 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:42.720 We had no idea that, you know, his buddy was 318 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:46.960 gonna fall down and bleed all over Dracula's. 319 00:17:47.480 --> 00:17:47.799 That day. 320 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:49.920 There's something he. 321 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:53.039 Does believe in Dracula. It's not like he's like, you're 322 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:56.440 a bunch of superstitious so and so's so. 323 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.960 Well, nobody, I mean, nobody would have been like, yeah, 324 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:02.240 come up and go, come come with me, come bleed 325 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:02.839 on Dracula. 326 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:04.039 This sounds like a good thing. 327 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:08.359 And then when Dracula can't go to his house, he's like, oh, okay, 328 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:14.079 well now everybody gets a Dracula problem, right, everybody gets 329 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:14.920 a Dracular problem. 330 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:15.160 Now. 331 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:21.119 Christopher Lee has more dialogue in this movie than he does. 332 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:24.119 You know, it's not a lot, but the way he's 333 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:28.599 he is used, it's so afe, like you know, I 334 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:31.119 I did it in my opening, you know, but like 335 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:34.319 the who has done this thing? Who has done this thing? 336 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:39.200 I love that lying delivery and how super offended he 337 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:43.960 is that somebody performed an exorcism on his castle. And 338 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:46.720 I I also, you know, you want to talk about 339 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:53.880 Dracula in this movie. I love how personal this attack is. 340 00:18:54.359 --> 00:18:58.440 This isn't just him wanting food. You know, he is 341 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:01.319 mad at this monsignor, and so he's going to go 342 00:19:01.880 --> 00:19:05.519 direct and directly to him and fuck up his life. 343 00:19:05.799 --> 00:19:09.119 I mean, think about it. That's where Dracula keeps his stuff. Yeah, 344 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:11.319 you beat this too. 345 00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:15.240 All my Dracula stuff is in my castle. I got 346 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:18.119 one cake, now one? 347 00:19:20.240 --> 00:19:22.319 What would Jason do if I just changed the lock 348 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:23.200 on his office? 349 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:25.640 Right, exactly, Yeah, all my stuff. 350 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:28.319 Who has done this thing? 351 00:19:28.720 --> 00:19:31.839 Exactly, But but it's even more it's even more of 352 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:35.680 an affront all jokes aside by the fact that it's worms. 353 00:19:35.720 --> 00:19:38.920 I mean, these people are so this Dracula especially, these 354 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:42.839 people are so below him in every way that he 355 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:45.119 can think of the fact that they barred it from 356 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.880 his castle home. It's just a I mean triple affront 357 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:53.759 ten times a front, right, I saw you. Okay, now 358 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:56.640 that's it. And you you know it's it's just such 359 00:19:56.680 --> 00:20:01.200 a fundamental just it's pas it's petty. 360 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:04.559 And I love it when villains are motivated by pettiness. 361 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:09.839 I I it's it's both grandiose and relatable at the 362 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:10.720 same time. 363 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:15.079 Well, Dracula always is all about revenge, like he often 364 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:17.200 is is saying, you know, I'm going to take my 365 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:20.799 time getting my revenge and spreading it across centuries. So 366 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:22.799 you know, this is a common thing for him to 367 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:25.240 like pick somebody and really want to want to want 368 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:25.759 to get him. 369 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:29.839 Well, you know, and this it's like, you desecrated my castle, 370 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:31.759 so I'm going to desecrate your niece. 371 00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:37.079 Yes, yes, and and exactly so I I I want 372 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:39.720 to keep talking about Dracula, But I do want to 373 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:44.680 mention this castle has completely changed now in universe, we 374 00:20:44.839 --> 00:20:48.400 now have a there's no explanation for this at all. 375 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:52.480 But in universe, Dracula's castle is now impassable, so there's 376 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:55.079 there's no road leading up to it anymore. There's no 377 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:59.039 more mote, there's there's only a castle at the top 378 00:20:59.079 --> 00:21:01.759 of a mountain that you have to climb. So either 379 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:04.519 the townsfolk have destroyed the road, which I think is 380 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:09.880 a reasonable assumption, or or magic has happened and caused 381 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:13.839 the countryside to be totally differently shaped. Doesn't matter. We 382 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:17.759 now have a completely different surrounding for the castle, and 383 00:21:17.799 --> 00:21:21.400 there's no way to just ride to You can't just 384 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:24.960 ride a coach up to the castle door anymore, which 385 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:27.119 makes no sense, but that's what we're going with. 386 00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:30.240 And I mean it's always kind of been sort of magical, yes, 387 00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:33.119 and you can imagine some kind of a between the 388 00:21:33.519 --> 00:21:36.640 magic and the villagers probably doing something. 389 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:38.599 By the way, I did have a question. 390 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:41.599 I probably should have looked this up, but you know, 391 00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:44.799 we asked some experts here. How is there any mention 392 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:49.079 of how they make him so bloodshot? Makeup wise? 393 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:56.440 Yeah, he has contact lenses. Contacts like that can have 394 00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:57.279 been fun to wear. 395 00:21:57.680 --> 00:22:00.440 I was curious, that's what I figured, but I was like, well, 396 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:01.119 it says. 397 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:04.319 In the IMDb that this time around it was they 398 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:07.680 were better than about the past ones because they're cut smaller, 399 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:10.119 so they're not like bothering in the inside of his eye. However, 400 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:11.960 that makes that means that that at one point they're 401 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:14.000