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Speaker 1: This is Melissa Mingle, friend of the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. You start messing it up when you

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try to do too much.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. Jason, I bet with two words, I

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can take you back to nineteen ninety four. Ready, Yes,

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so bended on.

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Speaker 2: I'm a loser baby.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if that's on your list. Maybe

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it's on my list, maybe it's not. You guys will

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have to wait and find out. But we are here

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with the top five songs from nineteen ninety four. Now,

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there are some caveats to this list. We have just

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finished with an epic run of incredible albums from nineteen

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ninety four, Asterix, nineteen ninety five, Collective Soul, and we

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are not choosing any of the songs from any of

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those albums. Those are off the table. And we also

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have covered at least one big album from that year previously,

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Get a Grip by Aerosmith, which has a lot of

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great songs on it.

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Speaker 2: That was a big album for me in ninety four.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the elimination of that album probably cut your music

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catalog in half. From what you were listening to that year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I told you that I wasn't really in the

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mainstream flow at this time, so I caught stuff. You know,

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my college roommates would play stuff. But I mean, when

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you knock off Green Day, you knock off Collective Soul,

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you knock off Aerosmith, you knock off Live, I'm suddenly

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reeling for good songs.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, But as I've mentioned in our previous episodes,

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there were a lot of really big albums that came

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out that year, Albums from Soundgarden, from the Cranberrys, from Oasis,

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and some that I'm sure that we're going to get

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into today if I didn't hit it already on your list,

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and I see, I don't know what Jason has on

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his top five list. He doesn't know what I have

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on my top five list. And the way that we

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do these fun little games, if you haven't been here before,

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ladies and gentlemen, is we tease the song and have

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the other guy try to guess it. So we will

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do that with you as well. I will start describing

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a song, Jason's going to try to figure out which

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song it is that I'm talking about, and you can

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play along as you listen. Jason, what do you think

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nineteen ninety four were almost done with the year? What

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are your thoughts?

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Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety four is the nineteen eighty four of the nineties.

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It's the convergence of all a lot of good movies,

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a lot of great music, a lot of great pop

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culture moments. I mean, there's a lot of interesting things

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happening in ninety four, and it was one of the

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very very last times, I think where the Internet was

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not having a major impact in people's lives and so

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you got your news from the TV or when you

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went and saw a movie, or you know, news stations

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and that type of thing.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, we just covered Collective Soul just

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the last week we had that episode come out, and

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I listened to Ed Roland talking to He was talking

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about how he talked to a record executive after they

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had been going for a couple of years and they

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weren't getting any support from the record label and Napster

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was starting to be a thing, and he said to

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the guy, He's like, what are you guys doing about this?

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You know, what precautions are you taking? And the record

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executive said, it's a fad. It'll be gone by next year.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: And Ed Roland said he knew at that point he

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needed to pull from the record label and make his

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own independent label, and that's exactly what he did, and

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it probably saved him. But yes, obviously everybody knew what

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was happening except the people in the record industry. And

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I told you, Looking at the chart topping songs from

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nineteen ninety four, I can tell that this is the

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beginning of the end as far as I am concerned

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for music, because you have got a slew of modern

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R and B rap, very like team age pop songs

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that were not my cup of tea at all. I

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still don't really enjoy them, but they became the mainstay

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of music and have been the mainstay of music popular

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music for the last twenty five years. But enough blathering.

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's get into let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: Who's gonna go first? Am I gonna go first? Uni?

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Speaker 4: First?

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Speaker 2: Why don'd you go first?

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll go first? Okay, five? All right? My

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first song, I'm gonna totally blow your mind here. But

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I'm not even gonna start by talking about a Seattle band. Alright,

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I'm going to talk about a band that you and

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I have covered before on this podcast. They are a

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California band played on the Sunset Strip. The bass player

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wrote most of their songs, heavily involved with Heroine.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, big album. I had this album keep going, Okay,

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I sold it back to the used CD story.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, So clue number one the song was

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composed by the bass player, who wrote most of their songs.

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Number three, I've already said cover this band before. Clue

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number four. This was originally a bossa Nova sounding song. Okay, okay.

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Clue number five that you composed it in ten minutes, Okay, okay.

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The lyrics were about lying to his fiance about his

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drug use, specifically deceit and broken promises is what this

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is about, Okay, okay, his fiance leading me here. I

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led you down the wrong I led you down the

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Primrose path on purpose. Who did you think it was?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: You were setting me up for Motley Crue right there,

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a big album in ninety four where they had dubbed

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Vince Neil and brought on John carrab And so I'm like, okay,

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is this Hooligan's Holiday?

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Speaker 3: I just start writing all of these things down. I'm like,

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holy cow, this sounds exactly like Nicky six, but it's

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not Nicky six.

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Speaker 2: All right, y, I know what this song is. Okay,

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stop right there, because it's my number four. Okay, all right,

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I will pivot. Everybody, hold on to those little nuggets.

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If you think you have an idea, all you have

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to do is wait for two more songs and then

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and then we'll be back to this song. That's my

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startar It's fine, fine, yeah, all right, So let's do

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my number five.

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Speaker 3: You're number five, all right.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually dying to talk to you about this.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I love this song, but I have seen it ranked

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as this band's worst song. I've seen fans hate on

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this song. I might get ridiculed for this pick, but

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I love this song. Okay, Okay, So again, this is

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a Sunset Strip band. Okay, this is a band we've

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talked about. This song was released at the very end

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of nineteen ninety four, Okay, and it's attached to a

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pretty prominent movie in ninety four. I actually called the

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radio station when they played it because I was like,

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holy cow, that's a song from a band that we

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have not heard from in a long time. Are we

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getting in an album from these guys? Like, what is

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the deal? I remember having a conversation with the DJ

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who was like, man, I so, but I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: For a movie.

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Speaker 2: But that's it.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So we've got a band that's got a history

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we've covered before. Yep, they have this like single that

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comes out in ninety four. Yes, just a single, just

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a single, okay, keep going, okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: It reached number ten on the mainstream rock charts, so

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it's a hit on the rock charts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A prominent member of this band left this band because

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of this song. So it's like the song that you

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could never talk about, Like they could never play this

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in concert because it caused people to lose their jobs

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in the band.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: A different member of the band was working on a

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solo project at the time. He was away but still

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an active member of the band. When he heard this

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song on the radio, He's like, I didn't work on

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that song. I guess I might be fired, And it

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turns out he was. Now. One of the reasons why

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I love the song is because I think this band

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does a great job of covers. This is a cover

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of an old song. So this song is notorious for

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several reasons. Number one, the title. The content is controversial,

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for sure, but there's an urban legend that a woman

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was stabbed and killed during the playing of this song

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when it was being played by the original band. Okay,

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all right, turns out that's not true. It was a

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different song, but they had just played that song.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: That concert was the Almont Free Concert, which we've talked

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Speaker 3: I think I think I know what you're talking about. Okay,

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before you guess, I won't guess. Yeah, keep going.

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Speaker 2: This song was written by the original lead singer, one

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of the most well known men in all of rock

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and roll. Yes, when he brought it to the guitar player,

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the guitar player is like, this is great, I love it,

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but let's turn it into a samba.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So he added percussion, a little bit tambourine, a little

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bit of the owl, all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yep.

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Speaker 2: Now, then back to the cover band, the band who

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covered this song. Yeah, this was the final single from

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this band until twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty confident I know what it is. I didn't

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even honestly remember that came out of ninety four, But.

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Speaker 2: A song came out and played at the very end

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of the movie an Interview.

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Speaker 3: With the Vampire. Yeah, I know what it is for sure?

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Speaker 2: What you got?

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Speaker 3: So this song was originally by the Rolling Stones. It's correct,

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and this song was then covered in apparently nineteen ninety

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four by the band Guns N' Roses. The name of

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this song is Sympathy for the Devil.

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Speaker 2: Please allow me to introduce myself.

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Speaker 5: I'm a man all well and taste often.

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Speaker 2: Around for a long long year. Man soul as around.

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Pleased to meet you. Hope you guess my name.

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Speaker 3: D This is one of my favorite songs of all time. Now,

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I really like the Rolling Stones version better, but I do.

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I do like the Guns and Roses version. I thought

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it was great use at the end of Interview with

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a Vampire. But man, yeah, I'm shook. I did not

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know that this came out in ninety four. It's great, Okay,

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you surprised me. Yeah, very good, very good.

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Speaker 2: So here's the rest of the story. On this way, right,

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Guns of Roses has been a train wreck from their inception,

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right right, okay, but this is what caused Slash and

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Duff to be like, we're out, We're done with this crap,

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and they eventually form a band with a lead singer

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from a song that we're gonna talk about here in

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a second. But Slash took this song as the ultimate

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slap in the face because he laid down a guitar solo,

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and Axel brought in another guitar player, a friend of

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his Wow, who played Slash's exact solo. So basically he

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copied him but replaced him on this track.

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Speaker 3: What the heck?

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Speaker 2: How do you replace a guy like Slash?

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Speaker 3: Uh, you're Axel Rose.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, Slash says when he listens to the song, he says,

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it's the sound of a band breaking up. But I

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love it to your number.

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Speaker 3: Four, all right, number four.

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Speaker 6: Four.

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Speaker 3: It is a cover song. You talked about this. There

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may be songs that you're like mm hm. You may

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have given me the name of the song and I

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still don't know what it is, right, Okay, So the

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original artist we have talked about at least once, if

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not two or three times. Okay, the artist, the original

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artist would record a new album in nineteen ninety four,

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called Outside, and he would sing this cover song that

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had come out, you know, in ninety four while he

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was touring that album. Okay, Okay. The guitarists passed away

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in April of nineteen ninety three. The cover was recorded

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six months later. The title comes from a couple of

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different sources. One is a novella by Robert Heinlein. One

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is a nineteen fifty four DC comic book.

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Speaker 2: Okay all right.

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Speaker 3: It was covered in nineteen seventy four by a woman

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named Blue. The Lulu recording was produced by the original artist,

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and it went to number three on the UK Singles chart.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on just a second, Okay, I've been studying

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up on my James Bond theme songs and Lulu sings

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the theme song to the Man with the Golden Gun.

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Speaker 3: Guys, this is what we would say is foreshadowing for

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an upcoming episode on the Shirley You Can't Be Serious podcast,

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because Jason is putting the double O seven band of

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brothers back together again. Who was it last year or

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year before we covered Best of the Bond Girls and

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the Bond Girl Draft, the Bond Girl Draft, and then

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this year maybe next episode, next episode, He's going to

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be covering with those guys James Bond songs. Love it Okay, Lulu.

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Lulu's version went to number three on the UK Singles Chart. Okay,

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It gotvered again in nineteen eighty two by midyear, and

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it was covered by this band. Like I said November

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of nineteen ninety it was originally the B side to

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Space Oddity. As far as the song goes, the original song,

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the guy who covered it and his band, The guy

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who sang it, he had personal journal and he put

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it as number forty five in his top fifty favorite

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albums of all time. This guy was introduced to this

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album by then drummer Chad Channing. Is that name ring

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a bell for you? Okay? The band that covered it,

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we've covered before, but they had a different drummer when

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we covered their album. When they covered it, it was

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for an MTV Unplugged episode, but the singer actually had

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his guitar plugged into a fuzzbox. This cover version was

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number three on MTV's Most Played Videos on February eighteenth,

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nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, so it's clearly a song that I've heard.

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Speaker 3: Six months after they recorded this song on this Unplugged MTV.

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The lead singer committed suicide.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so clearly it's Nirvana.

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Speaker 3: Yes. The Robert Heinleine book was called The Man Who

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Sold the Moon, and the nineteen fifty four DC comic

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was called The Man Who Sold the Earth. Okay, d

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this is the man who sold the world.

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Speaker 6: Spoke.

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Speaker 3: So not everybody even knows what the name of that

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song is, right right, But after Kurt Cobain's death, this

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song kind of became his ghost song. This is the

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quote from Rolling Stone. This was a man with the

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world at his fingertips and he gave it all up.

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Interesting and Rolling Stone ranked this as the number one

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in the reader's poll of the greatest live cover songs.

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Speaker 6: Not memes. This song.

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Speaker 2: Love it, I love it? Okay. Well, moving on to

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more tragedy, let's go back to your number five song.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and your number and my number four four song. Okay.

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As a refresher, we have written by the bass player

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Boston Nova song I'm going to tell you It was

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composed in the front seat of Winnebago on a twenty

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five dollars nylon string guitar, and I have to wonder

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if if the Winnebago had some scientifically treated petroleum under

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the hood. I'm pretty sure they didn't have Shirley Temple's

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under the hood, right, So you obviously know what this is.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this is Interstate Love Song by Stone Temple Pilots.

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They talked about how when they would travel, you'd have

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the van and like attached to the van, it was

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like its own thing, like a like a trailer where

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a guy could go back and be by himself and

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hang out or think or get high write songs, you know.

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So the title comes from the idea that Scott was

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in Atlanta while his fiance was in California, and that

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they would write these songs they were on the interstate right.

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Speaker 3: I actually, on the way over here today, listened to

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our episode from exactly two years ago, Oh Wow, where

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we covered Stone Tiple Pilots Core with Brad Moore, who

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just got finished cover and Live with us. We seemed

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to come around on the fall on these things all

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of the time, and on that episode we had Brad

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Moore helping us. We had Kevin Davis's executive producer, and

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on that episode we had we had Jeff Johnson come

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in and give us the Shirley Showcase, and he gave

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us his opinion on those two albums that we were

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covering Core and Dirt by Alison Chains. But then when

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we started our nineteen ninety four albums, he suggested that

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we should put Purple on the list.

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Speaker 2: We should cover Purple at some point.

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Speaker 3: Dude Purple and super Unknown or Jar of Flies, those

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would be excellent matchups, all three, very very worthy. Absolutely so.

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Speaker 2: By the way, yeah, there is no truth to the

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fact that Jeff Johnson does look like the weird guy

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with a long nose in this video.

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Speaker 5: Okay, just putting that out there, Okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: This was released as a single September ninth of ninety four,

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almost exactly thirty years ago today, and became a number

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one hit on the Billboard Album Rock Charts.

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Speaker 3: If you hadn't had this on your list, and I

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thought that you might, But if you hadn't had it

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on your list and you hadn't gotten it, by the

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time I had gotten pretty far down in the clues,

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I was going to say the original name of this

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band was Mighty Joe Young, and I thought that.

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Speaker 2: Probably would have gotten that would probably have shaken the

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cobwebs list.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 2: So that brings us to my number three. You're number three, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Three. We just talked about the Unplugged Nirvana album and

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MTV episode, right right, Okay, two guys from a different

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band came to play with Kurt Cobain and the rest

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of Nirvana for that unplugged show. Okay, did you know that?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, they're brothers. Names are Chris Kirkwood and Kurt Kirkwood. Okay,

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haven't got it yet, No, I didn't think so. Okay.

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These guys started as an eighties punk band, and they

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were outsiders even for eighties punk bands. Okay, they were

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never really famous. They had a big underground following. Got

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formed in seventy nine and started off as hardcore punk.

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But then they they did a very unique thing. They

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mixed country and punk and came up with their own sound.

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Speaker 2: Country and punk. This is not going to be my genre.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling. I have a feeling. You're right,

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But I know that you're going to know this song

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that I'm talking about. It came out in ninety four.

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So these two brothers in this band playing with Kurt

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Cobain in ninety three, they cover one of this band's songs.

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Kurt Cobain sings this song, and just like Man Who

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Sold the World, this song becomes well known despite the

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fact that it was not particularly well known back when

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they did it in the eighties. Okay, they opened for

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Nirvana in there in Utero tour, and that's how Kurt

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Cobain said, why don't you guys come and play with

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us on MTV Unplugged. I'm gonna play you the version

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of their song that Nirvana played on Unplugged. You ready, sure?

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Speaker 4: Many Ham skilled the Gramdle phrase of the Plants song

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belong with strangers.

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Speaker 3: Some folks, you know, holy don't recognize that song.

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Speaker 2: Nothing is hitting me at this moment.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's okay, because that's not the song that I'm

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talking about these guys, as I said, nobody really not

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many people paying attention to this band. Okay. But there

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they are, with Nirvana at their absolute peak, playing a

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cover of one of their songs. And then in ninety

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four they come out with another song. Now, before I

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play you that song, I want you to I want

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you to hear how bad the original version of that

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song that you just listen to.

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Speaker 6: Is still grandle.

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Speaker 4: It's the Plato some strangers and some folks.

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Speaker 2: You're making my ears bleed. D. That's horrible. D.

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Speaker 3: It's really pretty bad. It's really pretty bad. And these guys,

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I mean, the singer so much as said I was

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trying to offend people. I was trying to get people

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scared away, okay, And still somehow people just kept coming

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to see our show. Okay. They came out with an

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album new album in nineteen ninety four, and that's where

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this song that I'm talking about comes from. You're not

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even going to recognize this as the same band. Here

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it is, okay, you ready? Yes, I'm playing you the song.

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This is the this is the song.

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Speaker 7: You ready?

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Speaker 6: And when I wake up in the morning to feel

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the day on my face? Okay?

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Speaker 2: D I did I do recognize that song? That song

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is called Backwater by the Meat Puppets.

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Speaker 3: That's right. I mean I can't imagine, like I literally

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I had to go, is this the same guys?

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Speaker 2: That does not sound like the same thing, doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Sound the same at all? Right, I mean they have

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made and clear.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's good. It's really really good.

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Speaker 3: Like I I came across them because of Lake of Fire,

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and I'm looking all these things from ninety four and

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I'm like, oh, these guys had something in ninety four.

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Speaker 7: I pull it.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I loved this song and I had

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just kind of forgotten it. But then as i'm you know,

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I made a playlist of these songs and threw it

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into the mix, and I'm like, crap, this is really good.

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Speaker 2: This is a good song. I like, that is way

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better than that other crap thing you played for me.

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Speaker 3: So's the here's the rest of the story. Okay, these

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guys who've been the underdogs their whole lives suddenly have

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this very successful song.

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Speaker 6: They may see the back.

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Speaker 3: They get lots of money, and Chris Kirkwood starts shooting

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up Heroin as much as he can, right because why

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they almost immediately start falling apart because of his Heroin

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use and his brother was he described as He's like,

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it's like seeing someone on an iceberg floating away from you,

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like you just you see it and you know what's happening,

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but there's nothing that you can do about it. And

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he was shooting up with his wife at the time.

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Then within just a few months, his mother dies of cancer.

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And then his wife dies of an infection that she

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gets from the shooting up heroin right, and so he

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absolutely loses it. He says, I took a nose dive

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into the abyss. He was done with life, he was

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ready to be finished. He goes into a post office

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and starts harassing the security guard. Eventually the security guard

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forces him out the door, at which point he grew

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abs the security guard's baton and starts to hit him

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with it. So the security guard shoots him.

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Speaker 2: Death by security guard.

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Speaker 3: He did not die, but he did go to prison,

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and he went to prison for a while. He had

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been in prison before, and so this was like strike

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two or three or four for him. So he went

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to prison for a while, and in an unusual turn

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of events, prison actually helped him and he got out,

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He got clean, and the meat puppets got back together,

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still together today.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting story. You have that one out. That's

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a good one. Okay, I like it.

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Speaker 3: I like it. Okay, my number three, we're to your

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number three.

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Speaker 2: All right. Okay. The details of this song are gonna

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make it hard for me to disguise it, because I

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think it's a pretty well known story.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So this band went from bouncing around in the

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Southeast to world wide dominance in ninety four. Literally they

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would sell demos out of the back of their car

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from like eighty nine to ninety four, and then the

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album that they released in ninety four goes twenty two

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times platinum. Wow, it's one of the biggest selling albums

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of the nineties. Okay, now get this. They were heard

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on the radio by David Letterman on a Tuesday, David

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Letterman's driving home whatever radio station in New York City plays, Hey,

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here's a band out of the South. We think this

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song's pretty good. See what you think.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Letterman is thunderstruck. He pulls over, he calls his people,

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and he says, I want this band to play on

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the Late show. Get him in here.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So that's a Tuesday. On Friday night they played David

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00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,079
Letterman and go on to become one of the biggest

475
00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:49,599
bands in the world. In ninety four. David Crosby from Crosby's,

476
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,680
Stills and Nash sings back up on this song. And

477
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,599
there is a special version made for Sesame Street teaching

478
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,079
kids to hold hands within a while crossing the street.

479
00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: So this is Hooty and the Blowfish, hold my Hand.

480
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:23,319
Speaker 6: With a little love, and sometiens.

481
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 8: Water Borah the miss with a little Piers.

482
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so this song to me is irresistible. I

483
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,640
don't care who you are if this song doesn't make

484
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,279
you smile a little bit happier, it makes you tap

485
00:26:41,319 --> 00:26:43,920
your feet. It's so great and it's so sort of

486
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,079
squeaky clean that it's for everybody. Like my grandmother would

487
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:47,880
love this song.

488
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: Right Cracked rear View, the album that this song comes

489
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,839
from was one of my staples in nineteen ninety four

490
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,680
nineteen ninety five.

491
00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:57,319
Speaker 2: If we don't cover this, what are we doing?

492
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: We're not doing the right thing.

493
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:00,559
Speaker 2: If we don't right, we got to cover that. D

494
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,119
Do you want to hear the top ten from February eighteenth,

495
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,000
nineteen ninety five.

496
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,799
Speaker 3: Normally I say yes to this question, but knowing how

497
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,119
bad the top ten was on a routine basis in

498
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,680
nineteen ninety four nineteen ninety five, I shudder to think

499
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,039
what beat this song out?

500
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: Brace yourself? Okay, I'm ready number nine suki Yaki by

501
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:21,799
four pm? What do you remember that one? No better

502
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:25,400
than hold my Hand? By What What? Number eight always

503
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,799
by bon Jovi. Okay, it's kind of a big sugary

504
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:29,680
song from bon Jovi.

505
00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

506
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,519
Speaker 2: Number seven Candy Rain by Soul for Rain, ring a.

507
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: Bell, not a bit.

508
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,319
Speaker 2: Number six You Gotta Be by Desiree.

509
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: Nope, you would know that one, okay.

510
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,279
Speaker 2: Number five Baby by Brandy.

511
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 9: No.

512
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: Number four Another Night by the Real McCoy still now,

513
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:48,039
number three on Bended Knee by Boys to Men.

514
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,559
Speaker 3: That was everywhere, so I at least know that song.

515
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:54,519
Speaker 2: Number two Take a Bow My Madonna, not one of

516
00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:57,319
our best. And number one Creep by TLC.

517
00:27:57,519 --> 00:27:58,799
Speaker 3: The wrong version of creep.

518
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,319
Speaker 2: Right there were three creeps in ninety five and they

519
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:03,720
picked the wrong one. That's a whole ton of sugar,

520
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:04,200
right there.

521
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, Oh my gosh, I love hold my hand,

522
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,039
I love it.

523
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:26,599
Speaker 3: It's it's a fantastic one.

524
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: Great choice, all right, d Let's move on to your

525
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,400
number two.

526
00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:35,519
Speaker 3: Two. Okay, this one, I doubt is one of your

527
00:28:35,519 --> 00:28:37,839
favorite songs. Okay, but it's monumental.

528
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,759
Speaker 2: If it's monumental, then I'm ready for it.

529
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 3: Let's do this, all right. The singer who is really

530
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,920
the whole band on this one is now a composer

531
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,880
for many movies, including a Disney Pixar movie.

532
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: Okay, just Danny Elfman. We're not in Danny Elfman territory.

533
00:28:54,759 --> 00:28:57,559
Speaker 3: Art is not Danny Elfink. Okay. It is also not

534
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,319
Alice Silvestri.

535
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,599
Speaker 2: Okay, it's Hans Zimmer all right.

536
00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: So the band's first album came out in nineteen eighty nine.

537
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,319
It was not I don't think either one of us

538
00:29:07,759 --> 00:29:10,880
had it on our list in eighty nine. Okay, all right,

539
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,920
The group is currently now, I say in the group.

540
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,160
His group is currently creating a soundtrack to the next

541
00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:22,160
Tron movie. Oh so that's exciting. In nineteen ninety seven,

542
00:29:22,359 --> 00:29:25,640
this guy lead singer for this band was described by

543
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:31,559
Spin magazine I'm quoting here as the most vital artist

544
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,720
in music.

545
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: Wow, what a high compliment.

546
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: Then, right, So this album came out in nineteen ninety four,

547
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:40,319
and I'm going I'm gonna spin out of control on

548
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:43,160
this a little bit here, so forgive me. But okay,

549
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:47,599
at the time that this album was recorded, okay, the

550
00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:52,759
artist was living at one zero zero five zero Celio Drive,

551
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,480
Benedict Canyon, La. That address mean anything to you. It

552
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,640
was the site of the murder of Sharing Hate. What

553
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:05,559
was her old house, Roman Polanski's old house.

554
00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:07,039
Speaker 2: Okay.

555
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: It had been converted into a studio and they were

556
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:14,920
using it such to record this album. I'm on the

557
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,599
hook and he's living there in the house. Recording in

558
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,359
the House.

559
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: Helter Skelter was written on the walls of this place

560
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,319
in blood Gosh, Okay, keep going Okay.

561
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:30,359
Speaker 3: This song is built around a heavily modified sample of

562
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:34,759
the bass drum from Iggy Pop's Nightclubbing. Okay, I'll play

563
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:36,880
that for you in a second. First, I'm gonna tell

564
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,599
you this. People think it's about lust, but it's really

565
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,359
about self hatred and obsession. Comes from the same This

566
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,799
band comes from the same record label as Bush Innerscope

567
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,559
throw Back to Our Bush sixteen Stone and Revenge of

568
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:56,000
the Nerds Revenge of the Nerds Tedfield's Innerscope Records. Okay.

569
00:30:56,519 --> 00:30:59,839
This song reached number forty one on the Hot one hundred. Okay.

570
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:04,359
The video was shot inside of an abandoned hospital and

571
00:31:04,519 --> 00:31:09,039
was made to look like a nineteenth nineteenth century mad

572
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:15,079
scientist lap Okay yep. It was directed by Mark Romanek,

573
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:19,839
who later directed a Johnny Cash video that covered a

574
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,680
different song from this same album. Okay, I'm going to

575
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,720
play you the bass drum from Iggy Pop's Nightclubbing. Okay, Okay,

576
00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:40,319
it doesn't quite get you there. It was very modified.

577
00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: The only time I remember us talking about a Johnny

578
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:47,480
Cash cover, ye is when we talked about Depeche Mode.

579
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: The depeche Mode Personal Jesus was the B side to

580
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:56,400
that single of the Johnny Cash cover of the song

581
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,799
from this album that is not this song.

582
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,799
Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, monumental and vital artists keep going.

583
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,599
Speaker 3: Okay, and I'm going to talk more here in just

584
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,319
a minute about Johnny Cash because this is just too

585
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,680
good not to talk about. But for now, let's stay

586
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,680
focused on this particular song. Oka. Right, as I mentioned,

587
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,920
people think it's about lust, but it's really about self hatred. Okay.

588
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:18,160
The composer and the singer and lead of this band,

589
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:21,440
I said, he composed the music for a Pixar movie.

590
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,559
That Pixar movie was called Soul. He's also composed the

591
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,839
music for a whole lot of David Fincher movies.

592
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:32,759
Speaker 2: Okay, So clearly we're talking about Trent Reznor and Nine

593
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:36,119
Inch Nails. Yes, this has to be the song that

594
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,000
they play at the very beginning of the movie seven

595
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,440
and that song is called Closer.

596
00:32:54,279 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 6: Viol Give Me.

597
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he changed the face of music with that song.

598
00:33:12,039 --> 00:33:16,359
He did. He brought industrial to the mainstream. I mean,

599
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,240
obviously standing on the shoulders of guys like depeche Mode. Obviously. Okay,

600
00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:23,200
But I had to say that I had to talk

601
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,920
about this, all right. So Johnny Cash's album that came

602
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,240
out that year, nineteen ninety four, since we're talking about it,

603
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:29,880
I just got to throw this out there. It was

604
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,359
released three weeks after Kurt Compayne's death. The song that

605
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,960
you probably remember from that album is Delia's Gone, which

606
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,079
is a song about the murder of a fourteen year

607
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:45,000
old girl back in like nineteen hundred on Christmas Day

608
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:50,279
by her boyfriend. But the quote, the line, the line

609
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,960
from the Johnny Cash song that totally caught me off

610
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,519
guard in nineteen eight ninety four was and it's from

611
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:58,680
the perspective of her murderer, right, Johnny is singing as

612
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,799
her murderer, he said, talking about her evil. He says,

613
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,519
kind of evil make me want to grab my submachine. Like,

614
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,599
why is Johnny Cash singing these kind of gangster lyrics? Okay?

615
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,960
So I mentioned that Johnny Cash covered another song from

616
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,840
this album. That one was on American four The Man

617
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:20,599
Comes Around, which came out in two thousand and one,

618
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,320
last album to be released while he was still alive.

619
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,599
The video, as I mentioned, was directed by Mark Romanek,

620
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,320
who had directed Closer Okay. That video was named Video

621
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,039
of the Year by the Grammys and by the CMAS,

622
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:39,519
and is named Best Video of All Time by n ME.

623
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,519
When the reps from Johnny Cash first came to Trent

624
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:47,519
Reznor with this idea of him covering Hurt name of

625
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:50,280
the song okay, Trent Resnor said, I was flattered, but

626
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,400
I thought it was going to be gimmicky. Eventually they

627
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,440
record it, they send it to him, and these are

628
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,599
his words. He said, when I heard it, I felt

629
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:04,320
like I is watching my girlfriend looking somebody else. Okay.

630
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:04,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

631
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: It was made him uncomfortable because he said, this song

632
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:10,079
came Hurt came from a very deep and personal place

633
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:14,159
for him. Right. And then a month, two months, three

634
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:18,320
months later, he is recording with Zach Dala Roche from

635
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,719
Rage against the Machine and he gets sent the DVD

636
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:25,760
of the video. He puts the video on and these

637
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:31,599
are his words. Wow, tears swelling, silence, goosebumps. Wow, I

638
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,400
just lost my girlfriend because that song isn't mine anymore.

639
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: Right, very good.

640
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 3: So here's Johnny Cash's version of hurt.

641
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:55,519
Speaker 4: I hurt myself today to see it first till feel.

642
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 7: Focus know on.

643
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: Then that's coming from a guy who knows the end

644
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,239
is in sight and is new and everything he can

645
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,880
to record everything he loves. I see why Trent Resner

646
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,760
felt the way that he did.

647
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 2: I love it.

648
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: Yea great.

649
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, that was your number two.

650
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 3: It was my number two.

651
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 2: We're under your number two, sir, Okay, my number two.

652
00:36:13,679 --> 00:36:17,239
The album was released March eighth of nineteen ninety four.

653
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,039
This album went on to become six times platinum. Here's

654
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:22,519
how this song was written. The lead singer, you know Well,

655
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,440
was driving home and he had about a fifteen minute

656
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,800
drive from this main city to his home, and he

657
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,639
was listening to the radio and he heard a news

658
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:33,000
anchor come on and was just kind of talking about

659
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:35,000
the news of the day, and he said he was

660
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,320
just kind of half listening, half looking around, and he

661
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,880
said something that he said.

662
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,039
Speaker 3: Stuck with him.

663
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:44,519
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's three words and they don't really go

664
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,920
together when you look at it. You're like, they don't

665
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,800
belong in the same sentence, okay, And he said it's

666
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,679
because he misheard it.

667
00:36:52,599 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay.

668
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: He just heard a couple of random words and he thought, well,

669
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,639
those three words together they sound pretty good together.

670
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: Okay.

671
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: So when he wrote this song, he brought it to

672
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,599
his band and it was one of those where it's

673
00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:08,960
a bit slower, it's not their usual style. So he

674
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,719
played it for him. He didn't think they were going

675
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,880
to like it. Well, they did like it, and it

676
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,480
became maybe the biggest song of the summer of ninety four.

677
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 3: Okay.

678
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,599
Speaker 2: So I thought this band was kind of new to

679
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:21,280
the scene. They had actually been around for ten years already.

680
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,599
There is an interesting story about the name of the album.

681
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,519
The lead singer got this from a seventies TV show

682
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:33,119
in Seattle, Leaning where it was a children's show where

683
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:36,079
he had this clown named JP Patches on in the mornings.

684
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

685
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: Apparently it was on a magazine cover or it was

686
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,119
on a VHS tape or something for this seventies TV show,

687
00:37:45,159 --> 00:37:49,000
and he thought that it said super unknown, but what

688
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:52,079
it really said was super clown with a K.

689
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: I knew when you said Seattle Show that we were

690
00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,280
talking about the album super Unknown because obviously Soundgarden and

691
00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:02,920
I can tell you the three words that don't belong together.

692
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,679
What are the three words black hole, sun.

693
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:16,599
Speaker 9: In, masak in, dispous in disguises, no one, ruse as

694
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:26,639
the face, blassnes, snake, the sun, mad, disgrace, morning heat.

695
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: You got it? Okay, this song is so good. Ruled

696
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,079
the summer of ninety four and may have one of

697
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:38,159
the weirdest videos of all time.

698
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the popping eyes and the weird like melting faces

699
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,960
as people are looking what appeared at to be like

700
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:49,159
some sort of solar event destroying the world while they're

701
00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:52,159
all very happy and like it looks like a bad

702
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,440
acid trip Sesame Street episode.

703
00:38:54,519 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: Yes, when you go back and watch this video, you

704
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,119
can tell that they're like, Okay, there's this real It's

705
00:39:00,159 --> 00:39:03,360
a cool thing named computer graphics, and we're going to

706
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,679
stretch their faces and make their eyes bug out. It's

707
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:06,760
going to be really awesome.

708
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it in a long time. At the time,

709
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,400
I was impressed by it. I suppose probably looking back

710
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,960
at it now, it looks probably dated. So I saw

711
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:18,880
Michael Beanhorn talking about this song like they're recording super Unknown,

712
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,159
and Michael Beanhorn is like, you know the we need

713
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:26,159
something more when he's something bigger, and Chris is like,

714
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:28,079
I don't know what to do and he says, well,

715
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,760
you know, do something for your fans. And he's like,

716
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,960
but I don't know what that is. And he goes, well,

717
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:35,320
what do you like and he's like, I like Cream

718
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,840
and I like the Beatles and he says, well, then

719
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,440
go home and write a song like Cream and Beatles.

720
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

721
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: It comes back, gives him the recording of what he's done,

722
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:48,599
and Michael Beanhorn says, my job isn't to pick out

723
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,119
good songs. Mike's job is to pick out what's not

724
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,000
working in the song. He said, from the first notes

725
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:58,000
of the song, he was like, what the fuck is this?

726
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,119
And then as he kept listen, he kept waiting, He's

727
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:04,800
just like, where is it gonna go bad? This is incredible, right,

728
00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:08,880
And he's like, Okay, the verse is perfect. He's gonna

729
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:11,840
get up on the chorus. Chorus comes and it's even

730
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,360
more beautiful than the verse, and so he immediately calls

731
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,760
and he's like what the Chris, and Chris is like

732
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,559
what what? What's wrong, and he's like, you're a fucking genius.

733
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 7: He goes, what are you talking about?

734
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,559
Speaker 3: It's like black hole Sun.

735
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 10: Black Hole soun launch you come, black Hole Sun lone

736
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:39,559
you come.

737
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:47,199
Speaker 3: Wow.

738
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: That is a great pull right there.

739
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 3: It's it's an amazing song.

740
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 2: It is an amazing song. Now, okay, the honorable mentions,

741
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:54,239
you're up.

742
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:57,679
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna cheat a little bit, and I think

743
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,559
you'll forgive me for cheating a little bit. All right.

744
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,800
One of my honorable mentions is a song that I

745
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,159
love dearly and probably deserves to be in the top five,

746
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,639
but it's an emotional song for me because of someone

747
00:41:09,679 --> 00:41:12,519
else who's involved in the song at this moment, and

748
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,400
so all I'm going to say is Nutshell Alison Chains

749
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:18,920
jar Flies. It deserves to be one of the top

750
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,119
songs of nineteen ninety four.

751
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 6: Chasms writer.

752
00:41:36,559 --> 00:41:49,559
Speaker 8: We preas the Baiah, But I can't talk about it

753
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:49,960
right now.

754
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:52,679
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right, Now I'll go back to

755
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,239
our happy episode and talk about other honorable mentions. See

756
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,719
if I can lead you into it. Okay, okay, okay.

757
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:04,239
First honorable mention Seattle Band. The singer in this band

758
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:09,360
worked at a shoe store called John fluvook with Chris

759
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,760
Cornell's girlfriend, Susan Silver, who also managed bands out of

760
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,320
a little place out of the back of it.

761
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 2: Okay, you're tickling my memory there.

762
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 3: Okay. The lead singer of the band met Chris Cornell,

763
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:26,440
met Andrew Wood, met Lane Staley, met all of those

764
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,559
guys working at the shoe store. But he was younger.

765
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:31,039
He's about five years younger than they were. But he

766
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,880
was definitely into music. He was playing drums and so

767
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,480
once he got a band together and they were playing

768
00:42:36,559 --> 00:42:38,239
in the same studio that we talked about when we

769
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,199
covered Alison Chain's Dirt, that they all got together and

770
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,079
just hung out all day long. He would talk to

771
00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:46,760
Lane Staley all day long about different artists that they

772
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,400
like and singing styles. He talked to Andrew Wood about

773
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,920
different types of music because he was like, he was

774
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,239
just this huge, like he looked like a rock star,

775
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,559
even though they hadn't made it yet. Right this band

776
00:42:56,599 --> 00:42:58,280
when they hit it, like it was kind of a

777
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,239
weird thing because the grunge thing had kind of started

778
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,400
a blossom and the band had only been together for

779
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,599
about a year and a half and there was this

780
00:43:05,679 --> 00:43:11,119
big band showcase. Basically that record producers came to listen

781
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:14,480
to new bands. EMI showed interest in this young band

782
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,920
and said, why don't you guys come down to LA.

783
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,639
They go down to LA to play a show and

784
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,559
EMI doesn't even show up. Ghost them, Ghost them, right,

785
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,639
But ironically, turn of Fate, Madonna's record label, Maverick is there.

786
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,920
They love them and they signed this band.

787
00:43:30,159 --> 00:43:32,199
Speaker 2: Gosh, you're talking all around some stuff I feel like

788
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,599
we've covered before, but I don't remember exactly. Keep going.

789
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: So, as I said, this was a Seattle band. Lead

790
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,800
singer was from I think, born in Illinois, raised in Texas,

791
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,880
but like at fourteen, he was in Seattle with the

792
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,280
rest of the guys. But this band got a lot

793
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,039
of hate, not only because they were young, not only

794
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:51,639
because they had a Seattle sound, but because people kept

795
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:54,000
talking about them being from California even though they were

796
00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:57,800
actually from Seattle. Specifically Courtney Love. I had a big

797
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,800
feud with her because she kept talking about, you know,

798
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,960
their just this California band. And then later these guys

799
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,639
would join up with some of the old members of

800
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,840
Live and they would form the Gracious Few.

801
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 7: We just talked about.

802
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 2: I just listened to this this yesterday.

803
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 3: The big song that they had before this song was

804
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,840
a song called cover Me and Seattle Band. They're more

805
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,440
rock and roll than grunge. They have their big break

806
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,920
of luck when Alison Chains is having lots of trouble

807
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,480
because of Lane Staley's Heroin use and Lane. Basically they

808
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,480
break up and they're supposed to be opening for Metallica. Well,

809
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:37,960
this band then comes in and becomes the opener for Metallica.

810
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:42,360
And Wayne con said this band was not the nail

811
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,119
in the coffin of grunge. This band was the coffin

812
00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:49,360
brought in to take grunge out. You know the band.

813
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: I know the band.

814
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,559
Speaker 3: Okay, this band is Candlebox correct. I'll give you one

815
00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:58,480
more hint. Okay, yep. The beginning line of this song

816
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,960
was Andy, I didn't mean to treat you bad, but

817
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:07,039
at the last second he changed it and said, now,

818
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:09,119
maybe I didn't mean to treat you bad.

819
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:11,639
Speaker 2: This song is called far Behind.

820
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 6: Now Me Manway.

821
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 9: Man.

822
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:31,079
Speaker 2: It's a brilliant song. I love this song.

823
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 3: I've heard and I don't know if this is precise,

824
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,159
but I can see it that this song is a

825
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,679
love song from Heroin to Andy Wood. This idea of

826
00:45:41,079 --> 00:45:42,960
I didn't mean to treat you bad, but I did

827
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,800
it anyway. But it also is a mournful song for

828
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:50,000
Kevin Martin, having not tried to do more for Andy

829
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:51,039
before his Heroin.

830
00:45:51,199 --> 00:45:53,599
Speaker 2: I love that idea that this is a love song

831
00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:54,920
from Heroin to Andy.

832
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:57,519
Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay, so there's one of my honorable mentions. You

833
00:45:57,519 --> 00:45:59,599
do your honorable one of yours now, and you have all.

834
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: These heavy songs I've got, like you know, cold man.

835
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:06,559
Don't tell me you didn't love this.

836
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:07,039
Speaker 7: I did.

837
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: I loved it. Okay.

838
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: So my first Honorable Mention was released in October of

839
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,880
ninety three, debuts on the charts in January of ninety four.

840
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,400
It peaks at number four on the Billboard Hot one

841
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,239
hundred and April of ninety four. Okay, and I have

842
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,320
told you many times that this is the single greatest

843
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,079
charades song of all time.

844
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 3: I do not remember having that conversation.

845
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,639
Speaker 2: When you're playing charades and you put this in your arsenal.

846
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,000
You've already got one in your pocket of your winning Okay,

847
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:38,840
mark it down.

848
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,159
Speaker 3: Okay.

849
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: So this song has been named on VH one's Awesomely

850
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,559
Bad Songs, which I don't agree with Okay.

851
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,079
Speaker 3: Yes, the lead.

852
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: Singer in this band has a very distinct voice.

853
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:52,519
Speaker 3: Okay.

854
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 2: In fact, it's been said of him, if a bullfrog

855
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,480
could sing appealingly, it would sound like this guy.

856
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: Okay. It's a deep voice, deep voice.

857
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,039
Speaker 2: So each of these three verses describe the isolation and

858
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:07,960
suffering of a different child.

859
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 3: I've got it.

860
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 2: What's the name of the song.

861
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:14,039
Speaker 3: This is crash Test Dummies, and I think the name

862
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:20,320
of the song is just you got it.

863
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,079
Speaker 6: It was this cute.

864
00:47:23,519 --> 00:47:28,079
Speaker 10: He got into an excellent dumps and god in comments.

865
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 3: Will Button, I'm pretty sure d script is going to

866
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,760
cut that out. Yes it's it's mmmmmm.

867
00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: Greatest trade song of all time.

868
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,039
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yes, it was all over the air

869
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:42,559
for about five minutes. It sure was.

870
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: It also makes an appearance at a very emotional moment

871
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:47,280
in the movie Dumb and Dumbing.

872
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:59,639
Speaker 3: I remember that well and his hair head turned from

873
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,320
black to right way.

874
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 2: Lloyd is screaming at Harry. I'm sorry, mister prefact. Okay,

875
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:08,599
your other honorable mans next to honorable mention.

876
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think that the song is going to

877
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,960
be in your wheelhouse, but this is one of those

878
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,760
albums from ninety four. That was a main stay for me. Okay, okay,

879
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,679
I'm so sure that this is not in your wheelhouse,

880
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:21,119
so that I'm going to tell you the members of

881
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:23,079
the band right off the bat. Okay, Okay, We've got

882
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:26,920
Jeff Borrow and Beth Gibbons. Okay, nope, we're not ringing

883
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,960
any bells all right so far. No, if people know

884
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,920
who the band, they'll know who that is already, all right.

885
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,079
They met at an Enterprise Allowance course. Enterprise Allowance was

886
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:39,639
this thing that Margaret Thatcher put together for business entrepreneurs

887
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,519
to teach them how to be entrepreneurs.

888
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 2: Are the English?

889
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: They are? They are British, Yes, British. Okay. They began

890
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,360
this is great. They began working on their first recordings

891
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,320
in Nina Cherry's kitchen.

892
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 2: I forgot Nina Cherry's British as well.

893
00:48:56,159 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 3: She actually also had a minor hit in nineteen ninety

894
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,599
four called seven Seconds. Pick that one up. It wasn't

895
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:04,920
quite Buffalo Dance, but and Milli Vanilli wasn't even around

896
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,800
to knock her out of the running. But okay, and

897
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,840
so then this guy named Adrian Utley or Yutelee, I'm

898
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,039
not sure how you pronounced his last name. He comes along,

899
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:19,199
he meets them and he starts introducing them to thereman's

900
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:23,920
that thing and then what's something that's called a symbol,

901
00:49:24,039 --> 00:49:26,159
which I looked it up. It looks like a coffee

902
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:29,880
table with strings and petals. Anyway, these guys, because of

903
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,039
these new things that Adrian was bringing along, had a

904
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:38,400
very unique sound and basically are credited with bringing what

905
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:42,559
was called the Bristol sound into the mainstream. And Bristol

906
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,079
is the place in the UK that they're from. Okay,

907
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,840
they had kind of a hip hop beat to their stuff,

908
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,920
but their hit their music was not remotely hip hop.

909
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,760
It sounded more like bluesy jazz like. It sounded like

910
00:49:56,159 --> 00:50:01,239
the James Bond theme music. Genuinely, this song in particular

911
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:03,960
sounds like it could be a James Bond theme all right,

912
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,079
But they didn't record it digitally. They recorded it on vinyl.

913
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,880
Then they would take the vinyl records and they would

914
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,320
put them on the floor and they would walk on

915
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,559
them and treat them like skateboards to get them all

916
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:18,920
scratched up, so that it has this old school scratchy

917
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:21,760
record effect. Yeah. So, like I bought the CD and

918
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,559
all of a sudden, it's like yeah yeah. This song

919
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,239
that is the last single that came off of this

920
00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:33,639
album album is called Dummy Don't Ring any Bells yet, okay,

921
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:36,880
last song on the album, last single to be released.

922
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:42,280
It sampled Isaac Hayes's song Ike's Rap. Two was released

923
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,800
in August of nineteen ninety four. It reached number thirteen

924
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,880
on the UK Singles. They put this video on their

925
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,159
YouTube channel in twenty fifteen, so nine years ago. Since then,

926
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:56,440
it's had thirty five million views.

927
00:50:56,679 --> 00:50:58,599
Speaker 2: Okay. I would love to tell you what this is

928
00:50:58,599 --> 00:50:59,840
by I don't even have it.

929
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:02,159
Speaker 3: You don't even have a close Okay. So the name

930
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:03,960
of this band I know, you know because I've said

931
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,039
before is Portoishead, Okay, which is the name of a

932
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:11,320
town nearby Portishead, Okay. And the name of the song

933
00:51:11,679 --> 00:51:12,519
is Glory Box.

934
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 6: So time hind away.

935
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:28,639
Speaker 3: Okay.

936
00:51:28,679 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: I don't recognize that song, but it definitely does have

937
00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:33,920
the sound of a James Bond.

938
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 3: Theme had the CD. I don't even remember how it

939
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,840
came into my radar, but it's it was a big

940
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,199
one in ninety four. Honorable mention there.

941
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 2: Hey, I did like it. I thought that was that

942
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,039
would be a complete new discovery for me. Okay, my

943
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:48,800
last honorable mention, yep, I'm excited to drop this trivia

944
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:49,000
on you.

945
00:51:49,039 --> 00:51:49,679
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay.

946
00:51:50,519 --> 00:51:53,679
Speaker 2: So this, as we said, is right before Napster, This

947
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,440
is right before Spotify. This is right before streaming and Internet.

948
00:51:57,519 --> 00:52:00,960
Even the artist, the lead singer for this particular song,

949
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:04,719
wrote an article and the headline was, my song got

950
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,159
played on Pandora one million times and all I got

951
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,400
was sixteen eighty nine, less than what I make from

952
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,360
a single T shirt sale. And that article went viral

953
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:20,760
okay and continues to be a reference point for money

954
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,239
and streaming and.

955
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 3: Like, how bad it is for the artist?

956
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:26,639
Speaker 2: This song was played over a million times on Pandora

957
00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:28,199
and he got sixteen bucks.

958
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 3: It's terrible, by the way.

959
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 2: That article came out in twenty thirteen. More interesting stuff

960
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,760
on this song. The band's label made the singer write

961
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,400
a letter two radio stations denying that the song was

962
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,639
about drugs, when clearly it was. Here's another clue for

963
00:52:43,679 --> 00:52:46,000
you in the video, this show's the lead singer, and

964
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:49,039
the lead singer's name was David Lowry losing a boxing

965
00:52:49,119 --> 00:52:51,079
match with Sandra Bernhardt.

966
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I kind of remember that ring a bell

967
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,000
with it. I kind of do remember that. Okay, keep going, Okay.

968
00:52:57,079 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 2: This song reached number sixty four on the Hot one

969
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,119
hundred and May of ninety five reach number three on

970
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:03,519
the Modern Rock charts. The album that it comes off

971
00:53:03,559 --> 00:53:06,920
of is a ninety three album called Kerosene Hat. When

972
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,280
you talk about using drugs, one might say that you

973
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,119
are getting high, and so this song would be the

974
00:53:14,159 --> 00:54:00,280
opposite of that, and it's called low.

975
00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 6: Sometimes I Want to take you Down.

976
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, now that I hear it, Yes, I know

977
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:45,840
that song.

978
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: Yes, super catchy chorus, all about hey hey hey, it's

979
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,440
like being stoned.

980
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, not about drugs.

981
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: So they made him change the lyrics. Hey hey, hey

982
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:59,760
like being stone? What do we is this?

983
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 3: Eighteen eighty four and a Stone Gossard? I don't right who.

984
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:07,679
Speaker 2: They made him change the lyrics because they didn't want

985
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,960
it perceived that this song is about drug use.

986
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,159
Speaker 3: We've got all of these guys writing all of these

987
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,599
songs about drugs, and they're getting caught up in this.

988
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: Hey, Tipper Gore was in the studio apparently or something.

989
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,119
Because that seems pretty harmless, relatively harmless compared to a

990
00:54:35,159 --> 00:54:37,159
lot of other stuff that was my unable mention.

991
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:39,639
Speaker 3: So I had a couple of new discoveries that I

992
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,719
just want to turn you on, turn other people onto. Okay, yep.

993
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,400
One of them is a Mega Death song. I'm not

994
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,599
a megadeath guy, but Mega Death had a release in

995
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,960
nineteen ninety four called to Lemont. Okay, I get welliss

996
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:56,800
mingle in here to help me pronounce that. I guess right,

997
00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:00,159
but it's really pretty good. Well, listen to it here.

998
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 6: I don't remember where I was I realized life was

999
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,639
a game. I love it.

1000
00:55:11,039 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's a throwback to the old eighties.

1001
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 2: It sounds like eighties rock, that's right.

1002
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. And So another one that came up that I

1003
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,280
remember listening to because I had the soundtrack when I

1004
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,320
was a kid that I had just kind of forgotten

1005
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,159
about is band called Machines of Loving Grace and it's

1006
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:30,000
called Golgotha Tenement Blues but it's off the Crow soundtrack

1007
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:43,800
and it's awesome. Scott Benzel is now a member of

1008
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,800
the faculty at the California Institute for the Arts, So,

1009
00:55:48,039 --> 00:55:52,760
uh nice, you know, sideway career move for him. But anyway,

1010
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,679
there you go. I think maybe the very first song

1011
00:55:54,679 --> 00:55:56,920
on the Crow soundtrack. It's I loved it. So did

1012
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,960
you have any songs that were new to you?

1013
00:55:59,159 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 2: Well, so here's what I'm gonna tell you. I went

1014
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,519
to a concert in nineteen ninety four in Texas Stadium,

1015
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,800
saw the Eagles. It was the I mean, like the

1016
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,280
hottest ticket around. Eagles had gotten back together for the

1017
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,079
Hell Freezes over to her and they had a woman

1018
00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:15,480
who opened for them that I had never heard of.

1019
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,599
And when she played, she blew my socks off. And

1020
00:56:18,639 --> 00:56:21,679
the one particular song that she played that night that

1021
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,119
I've just fell instantly in love with it's a song

1022
00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:38,880
called come to My Windowless Ethridge. It was Melissa Ethridge.

1023
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:40,840
And when I saw her that night and then she

1024
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,119
plays this beautiful song, I'm like, that song is a hit.

1025
00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure enough. I was right.

1026
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,679
Speaker 2: By the way. I have not stopped sweating from that

1027
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:55,239
concert in July, the stadium with the roof open. Okay,

1028
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,360
we're uptore never once.

1029
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, going first.

1030
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 6: One.

1031
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 2: We might have the same number one song.

1032
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,679
Speaker 3: If we Baker Street this again. I'm gonna go nuts. Okay,

1033
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,400
I'll start, Okay, you start, you start. My song is

1034
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,039
a cover song.

1035
00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 2: Okay.

1036
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,639
Speaker 3: The guy who wrote it in eighty four was having

1037
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:23,599
lunch with Bob Dylan later on and he said, hey,

1038
00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:25,280
you know, I really like this song. Here is Bob,

1039
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,599
how long did it take you to write? And Bob

1040
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:29,960
Dylan's like fifteen minutes. And Bob Dylan's like, I really

1041
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,039
like this song that you've got song that I'm talking about? Now,

1042
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,559
how long it take you to write? And this guy

1043
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,920
says two years. That was a lie. It took him

1044
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:43,800
five years. Okay, wow, this song was his tormentor and

1045
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,400
his muse. He wrote, well, nobody really knows how many

1046
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:52,480
verses he wrote. It's just crazy long and he would

1047
00:57:52,599 --> 00:57:54,960
throw things away and pick things and mix it up,

1048
00:57:55,039 --> 00:57:57,679
and eventually he got it to where he thought it

1049
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,920
was in its best shape. He takes it to the

1050
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:03,079
president of CBS Records, who he signed with at the time.

1051
00:58:03,559 --> 00:58:07,199
The song is something like eight or nine minutes long,

1052
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,079
and the president of CBS record says, I can't produce

1053
00:58:10,119 --> 00:58:12,960
this crap. What are you talking about this? It's ridiculous.

1054
00:58:13,519 --> 00:58:16,159
And this song it's my number one song of ninety four.

1055
00:58:16,199 --> 00:58:21,320
It's one of the most well known songs worldwide. Okay, yes,

1056
00:58:21,559 --> 00:58:24,719
and it gets rejected by the president of CBS Records,

1057
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,800
and so he goes to an independent label who produces

1058
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,599
this song. And I gotta tell you, the nineteen eighty version,

1059
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:34,599
the nineteen eighty four version by the original artist is

1060
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:39,159
almost unlistenable to me knowing what the song sounds like today, Okay,

1061
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:45,519
those ninety four So then round about late eighties, early nineties,

1062
00:58:46,599 --> 00:58:50,079
this group of folks gets together, These artists get together,

1063
00:58:50,119 --> 00:58:52,760
and they decide to make a tribute album to this

1064
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,519
artist who wrote this song. And John Cayle, who is

1065
00:58:56,719 --> 00:59:01,079
I believe he was with the Velvet Underground, I remembering right,

1066
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,519
he does. He tells the guy who wrote this song,

1067
00:59:05,519 --> 00:59:07,760
He's like, I really like that song, but can you

1068
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,599
fax me over the pages and I would like to

1069
00:59:10,679 --> 00:59:12,679
cover that song on this tribute album that we're doing

1070
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:16,400
for you. And so the writer sends him something like

1071
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,599
fifteen pages worth of lyrics and he's like, oh my gosh.

1072
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,360
And so he says, I pick out the ones that

1073
00:59:22,719 --> 00:59:26,400
have more religious undertones to them and are kind of cheeky.

1074
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,280
And so they make this tribute album to this guy.

1075
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:34,559
And because it's a tribute album to an artist that

1076
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,320
is not super popular in the first place. About five

1077
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:44,480
CDs get sold, Okay, sure. One of those CDs goes

1078
00:59:44,639 --> 00:59:48,800
to a lady in New York City who has a kid,

1079
00:59:49,159 --> 00:59:52,000
I mean teenager who is house sitting for her, and

1080
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:56,079
he happens to come across this CD with this cover song,

1081
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,440
this cover of this song in it, and he's like,

1082
00:59:58,599 --> 01:00:01,559
I really like this. And he's a musician himself, and

1083
01:00:01,679 --> 01:00:05,960
so in nineteen ninety when he records this song, he

1084
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,280
records his cover of the John Klee cover of the

1085
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,599
original song from nineteen eighty four. So it's ten years later, right, sure,

1086
01:00:13,639 --> 01:00:15,880
And so it's a cover of a cover, it's cover

1087
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,159
of a cover, and this guy's voice is beautiful and

1088
01:00:20,199 --> 01:00:24,079
it's just him and his electric guitar, and the guitar

1089
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,559
sounds like this ethereal beam of light from heaven and

1090
01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:31,199
his voice is like the angel that comes along with it. Okay.

1091
01:00:31,719 --> 01:00:33,360
It comes out in ninety four, which is why it's

1092
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,079
on my list. It actually doesn't do exceptionally well. It

1093
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:40,719
gets some notice, but it doesn't do exceptionally well. It's

1094
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:46,760
only three years later when the singer suddenly dies under

1095
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:53,280
very tragic circumstances that his catalog and this album Come

1096
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:57,239
to Light. Singer was swimming in the Tennessee River singing

1097
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,360
a Whole Lot of Love by led Zeppelin. As he

1098
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,559
was floating along, had his boots on, suddenly disappeared and

1099
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,960
nobody ever saw him again. The name of the album

1100
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,039
that came out in ninety four that started getting notoriety

1101
01:01:10,239 --> 01:01:14,280
in nineteen ninety seven at his death is called Grace.

1102
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:19,239
The name of the song is also religious and has

1103
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,719
probably been covered by more people than any other song

1104
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:23,760
in the world.

1105
01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:29,199
Speaker 2: So this song is Hallelujah, and the singer is Jeff Buckley.

1106
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:37,159
Speaker 6: I heard the wor was a secret code that David

1107
01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:41,519
played and it pleased the Lord. But you don't really

1108
01:01:41,639 --> 01:01:48,199
care for music. To you, lickos are like this.

1109
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,159
Speaker 9: The fourth, the fifth, the Mine of Fall, and the

1110
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:59,960
Major lived the Bible King composing Hall.

1111
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 2: Kill Me, Man Kill Me.

1112
01:02:08,719 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 3: It's so beautiful. I couldn't not pick it as my

1113
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:16,599
number one song. And so you're right, cover of a cover,

1114
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,760
and so because that's the one that everybody came to know,

1115
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,039
every cover that you've heard somebody else is a cover

1116
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,400
of a cover of a cover. So here's Leonard Cohen's

1117
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:37,039
original version of this song. There was a secret chord

1118
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:41,519
that David played and then pleased the Lord.

1119
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 7: But you don't really care.

1120
01:02:45,559 --> 01:02:47,239
Speaker 3: For music, do you?

1121
01:02:49,679 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: That sounds like Jimmy in accounting that karaoke.

1122
01:02:53,639 --> 01:02:56,639
Speaker 3: I always like to bring this song up as a

1123
01:02:56,679 --> 01:03:00,519
song that took a decade to fully ripen and input

1124
01:03:00,599 --> 01:03:04,519
from various artists, but man, when it came up, it

1125
01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:05,199
was perfect.

1126
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So we've talked about my number one song at

1127
01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:08,840
length before.

1128
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:09,719
Speaker 3: Okay.

1129
01:03:10,239 --> 01:03:12,239
Speaker 2: It wasn't a track by track, but it was a

1130
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,119
song that we discussed pretty thoroughly about two years ago.

1131
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,199
Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

1132
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: This song came off of an EP that was released

1133
01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:26,360
in January of ninety four. It's the first EP to

1134
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,559
reach number one on the album charts.

1135
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 3: You know, I actually had to look up the difference

1136
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,920
between EP and LP because and I don't know if

1137
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,239
it's this one or not, but an EP from nineteen

1138
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,039
ninety four is thirty minutes long, and I had it

1139
01:03:42,159 --> 01:03:44,840
and I listened to it NonStop, and I would have

1140
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,280
never said this is different than any other album. I mean,

1141
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,760
it's longer than some of the original Beatles albums. So anyway,

1142
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,840
I'm sorry, go ahead and EP, yes, and.

1143
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 2: EP, and I'm confident that this is the same album

1144
01:03:55,400 --> 01:04:01,159
we're talking about here. Okay, Okay, different song, same album, gotcha. So,

1145
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,360
after this band's nineteen ninety three tour, they went to

1146
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,239
the studio for a few days. They grab their acoustic

1147
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,920
guitars just to see what would happen. There's a lot

1148
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:15,039
of parallels between Guns and Roses Lies album and this album,

1149
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:20,320
which rives with lies. But and so you know, let's

1150
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,800
go to the studio with our acoustic guitar, let's see

1151
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,000
what happens. And they pump out this song among others

1152
01:04:26,039 --> 01:04:29,159
that are just amazing songs. I feel like we need

1153
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:30,159
to cover this at some point.

1154
01:04:30,519 --> 01:04:33,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, this one versus Purple sometime in

1155
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:34,239
our future would be great.

1156
01:04:34,679 --> 01:04:38,239
Speaker 2: So we talked about this, I think when we were

1157
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,119
doing kind of the separate history of before we did

1158
01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:44,800
the track by track and this particular singer, this is

1159
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:49,559
Laine Staley of Alice in Chains struggling mightily with Heroin.

1160
01:04:49,679 --> 01:04:53,159
At this time, they didn't even know if he would

1161
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,880
be able to perform, let alone.

1162
01:04:55,559 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: Show up when they did their and they did the unplugged.

1163
01:04:58,199 --> 01:05:00,519
Speaker 2: Right and I think we even talked about how he

1164
01:05:00,599 --> 01:05:02,400
went back home to kind of get away to try

1165
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,559
to get a hold of his life. And he pulled

1166
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:08,400
into like a grocery store and there were some kids

1167
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,079
that had parked the cars kind of in the back

1168
01:05:10,119 --> 01:05:11,719
of the parking lot and were just kind of have

1169
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,679
a little impromptu party in the back of the parking lot,

1170
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,719
and they had this song cranked up, and when he

1171
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,760
pulled up next to him, he rolled down their window

1172
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,280
and started seeking the song with him.

1173
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 3: They were like, oh, my gosh, right, this one is

1174
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:26,679
no excuses.

1175
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: And this time in nineteen ninety four, I was not

1176
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,199
particularly an Allison Chains fan, but this song is irresistible.

1177
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:56,960
It is amazing.

1178
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Speaker 3: This is one of those albums and I'm calling it

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an album, even though I mean it's thirty minutes long.

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Speaker 2: It's an album.

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Speaker 3: It's an album, and it is good from beginning to end.

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And I wore it out back in the day. The

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original version of these songs that we've discussed are fantastic,

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and the unplugged version, I mean it brought it up

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a notch too, so.

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Speaker 6: Very good.

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 2: So that brings us to the end of our best

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songs of ninety four.

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Speaker 3: Guys, tell us what you think what we miss? My

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goodness what an incredible year. May be the last incredible

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year for music, but so glad we got to go

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rewind ourselves to nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 2: I had fun with this, D thank you so much

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for doing This is kind of the capper of our

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five albums of ninety four or five. Next week, we

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are doing our James Bond theme song draft. We've got

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five podcasts participating. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

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You definitely want to come back as we draft our

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favorite James Bond theme songs.

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Speaker 3: Be sure and tune in for that. Guys, we will

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see you next week.