Speaker 1: Donna no, no, no, Hello, and welcome to the Predator Retrospective.
Speaker 1: I am if it leads tras now and I'm joined by.
Speaker 2: The Commando Kirklan Patzer.
Speaker 3: It ain't got time to bleed Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: So, Kirkland, did you pick that name on purpose? Because
Speaker 1: it's a double on Tandra?
Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that. What's the double on Tandra?
Speaker 1: Arnold Schuszenegger is in a movie called Commando.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, maybe an Arnold
Speaker 2: the retro.
Speaker 1: Oh one day. As we've said, when we get through
Speaker 1: all the big franchises, we're doing actors and directors, but
Speaker 1: it's a long ways away. But uh yeah, we this
Speaker 1: is a one we just added to the roster. We
Speaker 1: had not planned on the schedule. But Pray is coming out.
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Speaker 1: reviewing that because that's you know, Taylor was gonna do
Speaker 1: that review no matter what. But we're gonna tag along
Speaker 1: because you think you'll learn this retro that me and
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Speaker 1: Boom, there we go. We're not gonna do the usual thing.
Speaker 1: It's the Predator came out in the eighties. If you've
Speaker 1: not seen it and you feel like you're gonna get spoiled,
Speaker 1: that's on you. You've had plenty of time to watch.
Speaker 1: That's how it works for retrospectives. It's a free talk.
Speaker 1: You're tuning in thinking that, Okay, I've seen this movie
Speaker 1: or maybe I want to just I don't care. I
Speaker 1: just want to hear people's thoughts. So Krook pats Are.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you, aust is what we do
Speaker 1: in retrospectives. Do you remember the first time that you
Speaker 1: saw The Predator? And obviously what do you think about
Speaker 1: it now after this watch?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is definitely one that we had on
Speaker 4: VHS back the day, and I I.
Speaker 2: Felt like I remember this movie differently.
Speaker 4: Like there's definitely scenes that I do remember, like some
Speaker 4: iconic moments, but a lot of this movie I just
Speaker 4: don't remember, like at all. So I definitely like haven't
Speaker 4: revisited since I've been an adult.
Speaker 1: It was the last time you watch not the first time,
Speaker 1: any think, is the last time you watched this?
Speaker 4: Like honestly, I was probably like ten years old like
Speaker 4: around there, Like it was a long time ago, and
Speaker 4: like I was remembering this as like another movie. I
Speaker 4: don't know if it was Predator too, or like even
Speaker 4: some alien versus Predator stuff, because like I remember particular
Speaker 4: Predator moments that I just was not in this movie.
Speaker 4: It's just like, Okay, I'm totally misremembering some of these things.
Speaker 4: Obviously I remember like the big quotable lines, but yeah,
Speaker 4: there was a lot of like character stuff that just
Speaker 4: felt completely new to me. So this movie actually felt
Speaker 4: like very fresh. You know, it's a nice sense on
Speaker 4: Disney plus but made very easy. I have like the
Speaker 4: HD version two, you know, for an eighties movie like
Speaker 4: this looked. This looked really really good.
Speaker 1: I gotta give it to like, ay, like, because we
Speaker 1: watched recently the Stars movies, lots of the eighty movies
Speaker 1: that Disney has converted over. They look really smooth and
Speaker 1: really good. Whether that's Disney or whoever company is doing it,
Speaker 1: they look really nice. So yeah, I appreciate thank you
Speaker 1: for buying Fox and making this retrospective quite easy, you know, so.
Speaker 2: Exactly giving a Deadpool and Marvel you know sometimes.
Speaker 1: In Predator of five too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure he's gonna show up and pray.
Speaker 1: Uh hey, guys just ruins.
Speaker 4: So yeah, like, like I honestly like, like I remember
Speaker 4: the main hitting points of this movie, but for the
Speaker 4: most part, like it was pretty fresh, Like like a
Speaker 4: lot of stuff was as if I was seeing it
Speaker 4: for the first time, just because it's been so long
Speaker 4: since I've watched this, And I must say, like I
Speaker 4: thoroughly enjoyed this movie. Like I was, I was so
Speaker 4: in it and like I just kept smiling on like
Speaker 4: scenes and like maybe there'd be some like classic eighties
Speaker 4: cheesy moments, but like I was just eating it up,
Speaker 4: like it was really working for me.
Speaker 2: I felt like maybe.
Speaker 4: There's some moments that were a little bit cheesy, uh
Speaker 4: that maybe I could It's like, oh.
Speaker 1: What are we being here but eighties?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Exactly a couple of words dropped. You're like, oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, absolutely, Like there's definitely some joke. It's just like,
Speaker 4: especially the first ten minutes just hearing, like a line's like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is like the worst Xbox Live chat
Speaker 1: right now, You're like, oh God, get us out of hearing.
Speaker 4: But like, I just love how I feel like also
Speaker 4: like a lot of like cheesy moments that might be
Speaker 4: pulled from this movie, like started from this movie. So
Speaker 4: like when people make fun of like some class like
Speaker 4: you know, commando type dude, it's like I feel like
Speaker 4: they're they're pulling it from this movie.
Speaker 2: So I feel like it just it paved the way
Speaker 2: for a lot of those.
Speaker 1: Tropic thunder yeah oh yeah, the whole scene where he
Speaker 1: accidentally murders the pig or whatever in this movie, that's
Speaker 1: exactly what he does with the pand entropic thunder like
Speaker 1: it's it's you're completely right, Like it's one of those
Speaker 1: quintessential movies that people saw and was like whether they're
Speaker 1: they're kind of tributing it or pairing it, it's it's
Speaker 1: definitely one of those touchstones for people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think like just like the minimal use
Speaker 4: of the Predator for most of this movie, like it just.
Speaker 2: Works so well.
Speaker 4: It was so phenomenal like on it like I have
Speaker 4: my notes of the movie and I literally just wrote
Speaker 4: down things that I had issues with and it's like
Speaker 4: four things, like like I think I been tell halfway
Speaker 4: through this movie it was a ten out of ten,
Speaker 4: Like it was.
Speaker 2: It was so perfect. I was so in it, like
Speaker 2: like the just.
Speaker 4: With how they were in the jungle and like it
Speaker 4: just it really really fit, Like it felt very isolated,
Speaker 4: and I man like that this is just such a
Speaker 4: special movie and I'm kind of ashamed I didn't revisit
Speaker 4: like until now, honestly, Like it's nice for doing the retro.
Speaker 4: It kind of forced me to do it and just
Speaker 4: really appreciate the quality of this. And yeah, I think
Speaker 4: that was my biggest takeaway from this is just how impressed.
Speaker 4: I was that like like the the aging of this movie,
Speaker 4: like like it's still so enjoyable. It's not like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, this is so dated, like very eighties like
Speaker 4: hard to watch. Like no, I was so in it.
Speaker 4: Arnold is just fantastic. He is just like in his peak,
Speaker 4: I'd say, in this oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and these are the peak years, like right around here,
Speaker 1: and then probably the nineteen ninety two a Terminator or two,
Speaker 1: like he did some other bangers like True Lives, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: these like eighties years of Predator, Terminator Teach, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: all this stuff like glass Action here, which man the
Speaker 1: grace me. But still there there's a quite a few
Speaker 1: just bangers he was doing and he was delivering big time.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: And like man, Carl Weathers, Like then that montage with
Speaker 4: him like ripping his shirt off, I'm like, holy ship, Carl,
Speaker 4: like Jesus his abs and he was so jacked, like
Speaker 4: there's just so.
Speaker 1: Much great to be to be champion right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was very very surprised and impressed in those
Speaker 2: in those scenes.
Speaker 3: But that one scene where they're hoisting the log up
Speaker 3: and they're all just listening in the sun like they're
Speaker 3: just shredded.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so you're gonna help out or you're just gonna,
Speaker 4: you know, complain. He's like, okay, rips your shirt off,
Speaker 4: just like I'm watching Top Gun, just like they're all
Speaker 4: sweaty and uh muscley men.
Speaker 2: But it was, it was fantastic. I really really love
Speaker 2: this movie. I'll pass along there and we can dive
Speaker 2: into some nitty gritties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I should say what we're retroing is
Speaker 1: predator preyor to predators, and then I think that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. At some point we'll do Alien, and then
Speaker 1: after we do Alien, we'll do the a vps because
Speaker 1: I so want to watch because I so want to
Speaker 1: watch those, especially because kirklans like, I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 1: first one's at least good. It's like, oh man, but honestly,
Speaker 1: I have not actually seen them in a long time,
Speaker 1: so I'd love to give them a chance because even then,
Speaker 1: at the end of day, if the story is not
Speaker 1: the great, so well, it's Alien versus predder, right, that's
Speaker 1: what you're there for.
Speaker 3: But I gotta I got a good story about the
Speaker 3: supposed third one of the A v P movies. So
Speaker 3: when we get to that retro. Remind me to tell
Speaker 3: that story? Well maybe maybe, Yeah, it involves the directors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I try not to forget that five years later
Speaker 1: when we do you know, I'll make maybe when they
Speaker 1: announced a VP three for real. So actually, Taylor, feel
Speaker 1: you go because I got I'm confident a store here?
Speaker 1: So where What was the first time sat Predator? And
Speaker 1: what do you think about now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Preda was my first indoctrination into this franchise. It
Speaker 3: wasn't Alien, was anything like that. It was starting off
Speaker 3: the Breder my dad that actually got me on board
Speaker 3: with it, and I could tell it was definitely a
Speaker 3: fathersomee where the father was like super excited to share
Speaker 3: this kind of like the same with my day.
Speaker 2: I completely agree with that. Yeah, my dad, I fucking
Speaker 2: love this movie.
Speaker 4: From the twinkle in their eye little ten year old
Speaker 4: you know, like the beame of like little Kiani stage,
Speaker 4: That's how I felt.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 3: So getting into Predator, it's just it's it's so it's
Speaker 3: so special, has that sentimentality to it, but it's it's
Speaker 3: such a unique film and it doesn't need to be
Speaker 3: anything more than what it is. It's just they use
Speaker 3: the scenes and what they have very very well, and
Speaker 3: it just has a very good trajectory to it. And
Speaker 3: I can't imagine anyone else has an Honld Schwarzenegger and
Speaker 3: that lead role squaring off against the Predator. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I would have been. I probably would have been like
Speaker 3: Tennis or so. And how it worked for me was okay,
Speaker 3: Like I got through Predator and then I did Predator
Speaker 3: too and worked my way up, and I was just
Speaker 3: I knew what aliens were. I knew aliens were involved
Speaker 3: with Predator, but I knew I wasn't ready for aliens
Speaker 3: because of the gest dating thing and I being young
Speaker 3: and knowing that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's just really gross.
Speaker 3: And finally like I'm manned up and I did the
Speaker 3: whole alien train, but Predator was where.
Speaker 2: Babies come from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Predator was my first like yeah, initiation into this
Speaker 3: this realm. And I think, as far as like aliens go,
Speaker 3: one of the first kind of like alien things. It
Speaker 3: was up there with Starship Troopers for like early on
Speaker 3: like understanding the whole alien thing. But uh, sorry that
Speaker 3: someone else is gonna jump on there.
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like you're finishing your thoughts. You're just
Speaker 1: talking about Starship Troopers randomly and then you saw talking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything that's stemmed from Predator, though, I've just I've
Speaker 3: eaten up and fallen in love with. Like, it's just
Speaker 3: it's such a unique thing, and you're right, it's it's
Speaker 3: basically been a core for many movies to not necessarily
Speaker 3: parody off of, but just rip off of in terms
Speaker 3: of certain cinematic moments. And I think just when you
Speaker 3: get that opening sequence of just the ship flying above
Speaker 3: Earth and this little thing flying towards the planet and
Speaker 3: you you don't really know what you're in store for,
Speaker 3: and I think that's a great use of cinematography too,
Speaker 3: and storytelling. How just this whole time you really don't
Speaker 3: know what you're up against. And yes, it is invisible,
Speaker 3: and you could be like, oh, maybe that's like a
Speaker 3: cop out, but not at all. It's just the way
Speaker 3: that they play it out, just this mysterious hunter. And yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just it proved to be such a simple thing
Speaker 3: that is just such an iconic historical thing at the
Speaker 3: same time that's spun so many sequels and everything like that.
Speaker 3: And I mean, I've got Predator action figures in my
Speaker 3: my office here, Like I'm advid gamer of the Predator
Speaker 3: franchise and titles and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we've talked about Predator before.
Speaker 2: And the we absolutely have.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So for me, I think the very first time
Speaker 1: I honestly saw it was probably like on the Sci
Speaker 1: Fi Channel. Definitely, I feel like edited because it's one
Speaker 1: of those you're watching like, oh, this isn't how it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be. And I don't know when exactly I
Speaker 1: had watched it for the first but I just like
Speaker 1: I was in that zone of I've always said, like
Speaker 1: from like two thousand and five, two thousand and six
Speaker 1: and when I was like, Okay, I gotta start watching
Speaker 1: all these movies now, and just like I think I
Speaker 1: just like watched a bunch of them together and same
Speaker 1: thing with Aliens, just kind of did them all. And
Speaker 1: the last time I saw this movies was quite a
Speaker 1: few years ago. It was actually I don't know why,
Speaker 1: because like, yes, boys, like I love this movie. It's great.
Speaker 1: Maybe's just because it's you kind of not know it
Speaker 1: off beat by beat, but it's a pretty simplistic movie.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you could watch it again
Speaker 1: and again because not too much happens, but like what
Speaker 1: happens is great, So I think it's almost nice to
Speaker 1: have that little break and almost you forget about the
Speaker 1: little specificness of it. And then when you watch, like, oh,
Speaker 1: write this scene and this scene, this is how Billy
Speaker 1: goes and stuff like that, like all these moments, and
Speaker 1: I think the last time I watched it was funny.
Speaker 1: I was at Emily's when she used to live with
Speaker 1: her best friend, the roommate, and I remember Emily went
Speaker 1: to work. I used to have Mondays off and she
Speaker 1: worked Mondays and she's like, yeah, you can have the
Speaker 1: house alone and everything like that, just hang out and
Speaker 1: stuff until I get back. I'm like, okay, And the
Speaker 1: roommate wasn't there. This is not to do with the story,
Speaker 1: was tune obi wan, But I hear I am just
Speaker 1: watching Predator and not butt ass naked, but I'm just
Speaker 1: on the couch. She got my shirt off and she
Speaker 1: comes in and just like Predator, huh yeah, and then
Speaker 1: she went in to her man. It was just awkward
Speaker 1: because like I knew her well enough, but it was
Speaker 1: still like I'm just sitting in her living room shirt off,
Speaker 1: watching Predda at her and like, I'm sure it's a
Speaker 1: card yeah, yeah, I'm sure at some point.
Speaker 3: Where they're the characters are glistling and the sun just
Speaker 3: bo He's ripped.
Speaker 1: And she probably closed her door and is like man
Speaker 1: and hopefully it doesn't last long with that guy, and
Speaker 1: lo and behold here I am. But yeah, so shouts
Speaker 1: out to Curtly. But yeah, three kids later. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the last time I remember. But yeah, this
Speaker 1: is just it's such a great simplistic movie. It is
Speaker 1: these men get sent on a mission in the jungle
Speaker 1: and things are not what they appear. It's it's not
Speaker 1: exactly like this, but it's the same way simplistic, like
Speaker 1: Jaws is. You know, you have these characters, this is
Speaker 1: a shark. It's them versus you know, an active nature
Speaker 1: in a sense as far as like an animal, right,
Speaker 1: same thing. This is obviously different than active nature because
Speaker 1: it's from you know, a sci fi whatever world. But
Speaker 1: what I like about is the pacing where it's just
Speaker 1: for a while, an army movie. It's just these guys
Speaker 1: on a mission. Even then there's some dramatic stuff going
Speaker 1: on there as far as you know, deal lying to
Speaker 1: them and stuff. So even that stuff is interesting, Like okay,
Speaker 1: you got some jacked up dudes do some violent stuff
Speaker 1: and they don't think they should actually be here, Like
Speaker 1: even Dutch says like, this is not what we do.
Speaker 1: So there's some good tension there and then a fucking
Speaker 1: alien just drops in and I think, like, it's not
Speaker 1: a cop about him being you know, cloaking and invisible.
Speaker 1: It's definitely a budgetary thing, and that's a smart thing.
Speaker 1: It's the same way why compare to The Jaws is the
Speaker 1: Shark was supposed to be all around that movie. This Shark,
Speaker 1: I think it was like week two or three, like
Speaker 1: broke down and they had to rework that movie so
Speaker 1: you could barely see the Shark, right, And I think
Speaker 1: that works better now. And I think that's almost It's
Speaker 1: a tough thing because I think this is I won't
Speaker 1: say this is a perfect movie, but it's a perfect
Speaker 1: type of this type of genre action movie where you
Speaker 1: can make sequels and expand the universe. And I know
Speaker 1: that's what Taylor loves. You see the plants all that stuff,
Speaker 1: But at the same point, it's always hard to catch,
Speaker 1: like capture lightning in the bottle. And I like Predators.
Speaker 1: I think I like Predator two enough. That's the one
Speaker 1: I've seen the least. I'm excited to watch that again.
Speaker 1: But they can never match this because this was just
Speaker 1: such like a great concept. It's like we were just
Speaker 1: a Jurassic Park right where, no matter what, you're never
Speaker 1: gonna match that first one because the idea is just
Speaker 1: so good. These guys top of the elite, you know,
Speaker 1: squad versus this alien killer, what's gonna happen? And then
Speaker 1: from that it was always bigger, bigger, Oh the preditors
Speaker 1: in the citter. Oh, we're at this planet and there's
Speaker 1: some fun ideas there. But this is just the perfect concept.
Speaker 1: That's why I did the theme in the beginning. I
Speaker 1: fucking love the music in this movie. Alen Silvestri, who
Speaker 1: if you don't know, he did the Avengers theme and
Speaker 1: you know, porls and all that stuff, like this is
Speaker 1: how he's started to build his career and just that
Speaker 1: it's like the Striker's menu where they play that theme over.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no. But it's just like
Speaker 1: it's so fucking good because you just feel like you're
Speaker 1: banned down the hatches with these guys. Now, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: This is a complete dude bro movie, not evenly what
Speaker 1: we talk about the beginning with like dropping like profanities
Speaker 1: and slurs, but just like the whole vibe of jacked
Speaker 1: up dudes nose to nose arguing guns. Like the very
Speaker 1: first Sea when the predator appears and they just light
Speaker 1: up the force and waste like hundreds of AMMO. You're like, man,
Speaker 1: this is the most dude bro thing in the world.
Speaker 4: Laughing out loud in that scene, I could not believe that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, we got in the war zone.
Speaker 1: Just oh, next war zone. Every time we see one person,
Speaker 1: just light them up. But then we're just left with
Speaker 1: our pistols and like bone arrows and stuff. But and
Speaker 1: that's what I love where and it's not your foulkering
Speaker 1: because you haven't seen well, but that's what I love.
Speaker 1: Where people have been like, oh, well, how are we
Speaker 1: gonna do prey Like they're going back in time. But
Speaker 1: it's like how they how Dutch beats the predators has
Speaker 1: nothing due technology, it's smart sin, it's the environment. So
Speaker 1: that's why I'm prey. When they're looking around in those trailers,
Speaker 1: there's fucking mud everywhere. These people are gonna be wearing
Speaker 1: might one hundred percent to take down this predator. But
Speaker 1: like with this that's why I love that he's systematically
Speaker 1: taking apart of the team one by one. You learn
Speaker 1: a little bit more details about the predator each time.
Speaker 1: But what I love is it's kind of that Michael
Speaker 1: Myers esque like in the beginning of it's just a
Speaker 1: force of nature coming at you and they give you
Speaker 1: just enough. Even then, like seeing stuff like his wrist
Speaker 1: clock and it's showing his different language. You don't have
Speaker 1: to explain like, oh, he comes from this race and
Speaker 1: this is why he's hunting. You got the idea of
Speaker 1: what's happening here. It's simplistic. It's great. Everyone's here to play.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows what type of movie they're in because they're
Speaker 1: just like being badasses. And Arnold, Yeah, I'm always like
Speaker 1: I never ever when peop always talk about Sly versus Arnie,
Speaker 1: Arnie one hundred percent. I like Sylvester Stolen love. But
Speaker 1: if you're asking me what action movie, if I was
Speaker 1: making an action movie and this is the prime and
Speaker 1: I can only take one one hundred percent of Arnold,
Speaker 1: and I don't even care. Sylvester stole it might even
Speaker 1: be a better actor than Arnold. He just he just
Speaker 1: brings in this era. He just brings something that I
Speaker 1: don't care. Vin Diesel, the raw, Chris Hensworth, Chris Pratt,
Speaker 1: like no one can capture what Arnold had in this
Speaker 1: era of just like that bad aster. But the thing
Speaker 1: I love about is when he becomes like emotional or caring,
Speaker 1: you kind of buy in into it right away, like
Speaker 1: Arnold could switch. He's just a great lead in this,
Speaker 1: So it's great all around. I don't think it's like
Speaker 1: a ten out of ten movie, and I don't think
Speaker 1: it's like in my top fifty movies. But if I
Speaker 1: were to make a list of the most important movies
Speaker 1: or like the best action movies of all time, it
Speaker 1: would be in there. It's one of those classic It's
Speaker 1: just like every time I watch it, I'm reminded, man,
Speaker 1: this is a great movie. And uh yeah, so wherever
Speaker 1: we want to go now, let's go to it. You know,
Speaker 1: I should say our first sad break, and then we'll
Speaker 1: start breaking this down big times. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: and we're back. We're back in the Japa. And think
Speaker 1: about that. Just even those lines, all these lines, and
Speaker 1: give the lead to kill it the fucking mem you
Speaker 1: son of a bitch in the arms. Like this movie
Speaker 1: has like lived done for generations through memes and like
Speaker 1: quotes and stuff. So mm hm.
Speaker 4: So I was telling Shane when I was trying to
Speaker 4: convince her to watch it me, it's just like Shaye,
Speaker 4: if anybody's seen it for oh.
Speaker 2: Definitely not. No, definitely not.
Speaker 3: And she's just shipping all over it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, she does that. It's like this is
Speaker 4: for podcast. Ah, it's gonna be a bad movie, you know.
Speaker 4: She she's been like just absolutely haunted by those like
Speaker 4: early Patreon requests of just god that's fair.
Speaker 2: I forced her to watch, but I.
Speaker 1: Had to expend that day night too. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: like the muscle Guy Gift, like it's this movie and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and we didn't watch because I don't
Speaker 1: I think the same thing. She didn't much interest, but
Speaker 1: she had to go somewhere. But I was like, it's
Speaker 1: it's this, like I made her watch that, and she's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, that's it and everything, and we moved on.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't even know where I was leaning
Speaker 2: with that. I forgot my first point.
Speaker 4: I had a PowerNet before this, so I'm a little
Speaker 4: waking up still I got some cool meats if you
Speaker 4: want to beat me up.
Speaker 2: So beat me up, Taylor.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite things is it just comes full circle.
Speaker 3: Now when you look at the predator Predator, this is
Speaker 3: like a fun fact. The Predator originally look very different.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna drop this deed. So if you're hopefully you're
Speaker 3: watching video here, this is the original preder look.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, So wait, did they shoot this?
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, they actually did, and then at some point
Speaker 3: they changed the preader look to what you know, now, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the initial look. I'm glad they did too. And
Speaker 3: they've had like callbacks, Like in Predators, there was like
Speaker 3: an alien that looks similar to that, but another like
Speaker 3: a funky thing. They put it a toy line with
Speaker 3: Predator and this is like the Armory's wearing and it's
Speaker 3: kind of like tribute to that initial concept that was developed.
Speaker 1: I feel like that toy has to go for a lot, right,
Speaker 1: because it's one of those cool like.
Speaker 3: Oh, I got it on my shelf too, thirty four dollars.
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you, oh, I see interesting they did
Speaker 1: make I thought you were saying that they made a
Speaker 1: toy back in the day of the original one. No,
Speaker 1: that a lot that would have sold like hotcakes and stuff. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I heard. I actually I was reading some triviun and
Speaker 1: I heard that they got rid of that predator because
Speaker 1: he went to Hawaii and he was throwing some chairs
Speaker 1: around and they had to reshoot the whole movie and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So yeah, no, and actually, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: that's my bad because we've been so busy. I will
Speaker 1: try it for Prey or too. I'll have some trivia
Speaker 1: for Prayer one and Prayer two. I completely forgot just
Speaker 1: because we've just been cranking out the content. But that
Speaker 1: that I definitely better look. And I think like the
Speaker 1: with that look the original one, was he supposed to
Speaker 1: take off a helmet too and reveal some or was
Speaker 1: that just his final.
Speaker 3: No, I think that's actually his full form, like just
Speaker 3: an alien species or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the best thing because the movie
Speaker 1: we talked about like how it slowly reveals the mystery,
Speaker 1: but how it slowly reveals the prayer are like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you see nothing, people are just gonna killed, and then
Speaker 1: you see like the waveness of the fucking Like I
Speaker 1: man watching this for the first Ti'm having no idea
Speaker 1: because when I saw it even on the Sci Fi network,
Speaker 1: I knew of Predator. I knew, okay, what the prayer
Speaker 1: looks like. I have an idea of it. Never seen
Speaker 1: the movie, let's check it out people that and I
Speaker 1: would have loved I should watch the trailers. But I
Speaker 1: imagine there's so many people that had no idea, like
Speaker 1: obviously when it first came out, what they're expecting. So
Speaker 1: this idea of like you see nothing, then you just
Speaker 1: see this waveness and then you see this fucking like
Speaker 1: tanky thing with a can on its gun on shoulder,
Speaker 1: this big ass one, and you probably think that's the
Speaker 1: final and that's like scary and badass enough, right, and
Speaker 1: then you fucking get like the mask coming off and
Speaker 1: you ugly, son of a bitch. But like it just
Speaker 1: the way it escalates to, oh, it's just something in
Speaker 1: the woods. To man, it's just fucking months like Alien Monster.
Speaker 1: It's such like a good and it's paced so well.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's almost like every it's like I
Speaker 1: think the movie's how long was it was like an
Speaker 1: hour forty nine hours?
Speaker 2: Healthy?
Speaker 4: I think it was like an hour thirty Honestly, it
Speaker 4: was a oh, I'm over selling it over lengthy.
Speaker 1: Movie, yes, but what I so? Then I don't even
Speaker 1: know the exact increments of when they do the pacing
Speaker 1: and revealing these things, but I feel like it's fantastic.
Speaker 1: It feels like what do we got here? It is,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it gives me the whole franchise. I
Speaker 1: just want the runt time the fucking movie one hundred
Speaker 1: and seven minutes, so it's almost two hours. So it's
Speaker 1: so that's where it feels like every fifteen to twenty
Speaker 1: minutes you get a little bit more and a little
Speaker 1: bit more, and never too much, you know. And even
Speaker 1: then once you get of course you can tell like
Speaker 1: pros Tec stuff, but once you get the Predator at
Speaker 1: the end, he looks great. Even this far along, it
Speaker 1: does not look dated, It does not look cheesy. It's
Speaker 1: just like the Jurassic Park thing where man, again, I
Speaker 1: get it. While lots of people do stuff, but some
Speaker 1: practical stuff you just can't beat. And I get with
Speaker 1: CGI because there's ways that the preyder moves in this
Speaker 1: that you can't do in real life. That's where CGI
Speaker 1: does help and everything like that. I will ask you
Speaker 1: fun in fact, do you know who played the predator
Speaker 1: in this movie.
Speaker 3: Oh god, I couldn't remember.
Speaker 1: For the Life Action movie Legend, John Claudevad. Damn he
Speaker 1: was sane. Yeah yeah, yeah, so that that was his
Speaker 1: one of his things going on. But uh but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I love the pacing of the reveal Predder, and I
Speaker 1: love everything they do with the Predder. Just to write
Speaker 1: amount everything.
Speaker 4: It's so funny because, you know, finishing it. I've watched
Speaker 4: this movie in two increments, but like, as you mentioned
Speaker 4: the pacing, I think it's just a very easy movie
Speaker 4: to just like sit down and watch in one sitting,
Speaker 4: you know. Just my schedule was busy, so I had
Speaker 4: to break it off in two parts. But so I
Speaker 4: was finishing it off today and Shay was there, of course,
Speaker 4: and then when it goes like the helmet reveal, I'm like,
Speaker 4: twoty things behind them ask and it was so funny,
Speaker 4: Like Shay's zero experience with whatsoever.
Speaker 1: She's like, it's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I was totally feeding it on her.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, no, it's gonna be It's gonna be him.
Speaker 1: And then when it.
Speaker 4: Pulls off and like it's an actual alien like her
Speaker 4: reaction was just like whoa, Like what is that thing?
Speaker 4: And like I'm almost envious of like that first reveal,
Speaker 4: right because I've just known of the Predators for so long,
Speaker 4: Like their face is so iconic. I know what it
Speaker 4: looks like. So but like from her, like she's probably
Speaker 4: seen it before but never really put two and two together.
Speaker 4: So to just like see that first reveal, like actually
Speaker 4: genuinely the first reveal from a movie in the eighties,
Speaker 4: I'm a little envious that she she got that moment.
Speaker 4: But no, it was funny. I'm like, yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be Arnold. He's just hunting himself down.
Speaker 1: Oh, that would have been a great from the future,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna counter your Jean Claude van Damn thing.
Speaker 3: He was actually fired from the Predator. He was, he
Speaker 3: still listened in the chairs. He was he actually was
Speaker 3: in this suit. I believe he played that version. And
Speaker 3: then yeah, Kevin Peter Hall played the actual Okay.
Speaker 1: But just to confirm, was he fired or did he
Speaker 1: just play the Predator.
Speaker 3: Actor Bill Duke backs up the claims that Jean Claude
Speaker 3: Van dam was fired from Predator due to the actor
Speaker 3: experiencing dehydration during production.
Speaker 1: What fucking assholes, you're thirsty to get off the set
Speaker 1: fired because he's in a jungle in this fucking sweaty
Speaker 1: ass soon and he's like, I really like some water,
Speaker 1: and they're like, fuck off, John Clad Damn, you know
Speaker 1: it doesn't need water.
Speaker 3: Kevin Peter Hall, he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well there you go. I always thought he played
Speaker 1: the original one. I guess technically did play the original one.
Speaker 1: But that's man, I'm so glad some things have changed.
Speaker 1: That's that's a shitty way to fire something for dehydration,
Speaker 1: But like that's the time. Is the time where people
Speaker 1: are doing fucking cocaine on set. It's the rocks life
Speaker 1: and everything like that, And that's what this movie feels like.
Speaker 1: Like just that gun say we talked about, but you
Speaker 1: got Carl.
Speaker 2: Weathers being like Kevin Peter Hall my favorite predator, oh
Speaker 2: so much better than junk.
Speaker 1: He's the best predator in the galaxy. The Predator. Yeah
Speaker 1: shuts out to Carl Wather's Amanda and stuff, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, where do you want to go next?
Speaker 3: Ah? I guess like maybe just the build up. So
Speaker 3: like obviously the team was sent in and used his killers.
Speaker 3: They thought they were going into rescue, but obviously Carl
Speaker 3: Weathers totally fucked him over, and they went in there
Speaker 3: and they had to get across the boarder to call
Speaker 3: in the chopper and all that jazz, and that's when
Speaker 3: things start to pick up, Like you get to finally
Speaker 3: understand the concept. Through Arnold Scharzneker's I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: if you are fighting and killing someone you got like
Speaker 3: a weapon on you, then this thing will target you.
Speaker 3: And I like how even at the point where the
Speaker 3: woman goes to grab the gun, he like just fucking
Speaker 3: boots it out of her hands because he's starting to
Speaker 3: realize how this thing operates.
Speaker 1: I forgot about how that was the thing at first
Speaker 1: when I watched that, include in like after butt first,
Speaker 1: like where the fuck do you keep that gun out
Speaker 1: of her hand? You know, like she's just trying to
Speaker 1: defend herself.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's between that and then her like the
Speaker 3: blood being found, and so the blood is super cool.
Speaker 1: I love that, but then.
Speaker 3: So many other little things, the heat vision and when
Speaker 3: she starts talking about how the summers like get really
Speaker 3: really hot, like and in the past when it would
Speaker 3: be really really hot summer, it's like their so the
Speaker 3: men from their village, her village would go out and
Speaker 3: they would find them hanging from trees and the same thing,
Speaker 3: like horribly massacred. And then she's just eluding again like
Speaker 3: this summer it's very, very hot, just like these cool
Speaker 3: little things they put in the back of your mind
Speaker 3: that just build up the intensity of what's going on.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I love that so much.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent, Like all the I don't know, the
Speaker 4: little like hints that shit is not just that there's
Speaker 4: not just other humans hunting us down in here, and
Speaker 4: I feel like any moment they kind of start to
Speaker 4: realize that, like it's just the intensity meter just goes
Speaker 4: up like a little dial. And I think it was like,
Speaker 4: again just to credit the Pacine, like I think that
Speaker 4: was done really well where it didn't feel like it
Speaker 4: were dragging a long time, Like it just felt like
Speaker 4: a like I was, I was in like a like
Speaker 4: a sauna that was just slowly getting hotter and hotter,
Speaker 4: you know, and then like by the end, it's just
Speaker 4: the Prator's absolutely fucking everybody up. And I mean, like
Speaker 4: that Billy character when he's just like what's going on Billy,
Speaker 4: He's like, I'm terrified.
Speaker 2: It's just like, you're not scared of no man. He's like, bullshit, you.
Speaker 1: Ain't afraid of no man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that man's like terrified as he says, oh man, yeah,
Speaker 3: like all of those little things.
Speaker 4: It was really really good for me, and I was
Speaker 4: I was just smiling. That was it was so epic
Speaker 4: and so intense.
Speaker 3: Billy turns around and looks at him and says, we're
Speaker 3: all gonna die.
Speaker 1: He said to Billy, Billy, it's I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're trying to touch it with him being like more
Speaker 1: spear of trying like that. Because I think so, and
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna fit to pray and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: because he's the one that senses it right away. And
Speaker 1: I love that shot because we know at this point
Speaker 1: what's happening in the movie. But the way you can
Speaker 1: kind of look at it is when he's just looking
Speaker 1: at the trees, you can just look at it just
Speaker 1: like this guy's like he's just fucking losing it. Like
Speaker 1: they've been through this like little battle. He just might
Speaker 1: be hot, but like there's something up there and he
Speaker 1: can't exactly see where it is, but he knows that
Speaker 1: there's something off with the t or the bushes, and
Speaker 1: Dutch doesn't really see it, but he believes Billy at
Speaker 1: the same point because I also love that we saw
Speaker 1: those people strip their skins and like, again, you guys
Speaker 1: are talking about the little layering and car weathers is
Speaker 1: like no human being could do that. Now you could
Speaker 1: just say, Okay, maybe there's some animal that did that,
Speaker 1: et cetera. But they're there again. They're trying to hit
Speaker 1: you with Okay, it's nothing of this earth mate that
Speaker 1: did that. And then when the first time they see
Speaker 1: like Hawkins's body and it's just like completely destroyed and stuff,
Speaker 1: that's when it really sets him. Okay, this is one
Speaker 1: of our guys. And it's also that he was just
Speaker 1: taking away like like thirty seconds ago, so like it's
Speaker 1: not like an animal that we could have found and everything.
Speaker 1: So that's what's great. In that middle portion where they
Speaker 1: start to realize that the presder's out there and just
Speaker 1: the little hints Okay, something's something is amiss and something's
Speaker 1: really really wrong here, and even when they figure out
Speaker 1: like oh, the preyer wants to take them out one
Speaker 1: by one by one and not just this whole group thing,
Speaker 1: Like it's just great because they that's why it makes sense.
Speaker 1: They set these guys up. They do this as a job.
Speaker 1: You know, this is their life and this is the
Speaker 1: ultimate preyyer, ultimate hunter, and yeah, some good stuff in
Speaker 1: the middle of that kind of revealing portion.
Speaker 4: And like any moment that they that one member on
Speaker 4: the team like sees the predator, Like I think they
Speaker 4: do a good job at like like this is how
Speaker 4: you would react, like you don't even know what you
Speaker 4: just saw, like something is rippling the effects and then
Speaker 4: you just saw these yellow eyes that like appeared and
Speaker 4: then it's just like, am I actually just tripping here
Speaker 4: like my dehydrate like John Clune Van dam Ice water
Speaker 4: and I'm actually like just hallucinating or did that actually happen?
Speaker 4: And they play like along that so well, where like
Speaker 4: I think it's uh, I guess Billy who's like having
Speaker 4: the first like just inklean that there might be something
Speaker 4: out there and they're all like, okay, whatever, And then
Speaker 4: you have Dylan just constantly like no, there's just there's
Speaker 4: three guys max out there, like we just take out
Speaker 4: He drops the line so many times, but then you
Speaker 4: know it goes to I mean mac he goes on
Speaker 4: a whole other insane route once he starts snipping out
Speaker 4: and seeing the predator. But like whenever any member like
Speaker 4: sees it, it's just like like what, Like how did that?
Speaker 4: I like, what actually is that? And I think it's
Speaker 4: so believable even for a viewer like watching this in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two. This movie came out in nineteen eighty seven. Like,
Speaker 4: I still think the usage of the CGI again, I
Speaker 4: feel like that might be the most easy thing to
Speaker 4: like pick apart be like oh my god, CG in
Speaker 4: the eighties. But like, honestly, it was minimal enough that
Speaker 4: it worked. It really worked for this movie. And the
Speaker 4: fact that it was just like a jungle ripple, like
Speaker 4: was so much better than I don't know, He's in
Speaker 4: like Times Square in New York and we're seeing like
Speaker 4: this happening.
Speaker 2: So it worked really well in the Jungle.
Speaker 4: I know, I really don't remember that one either, so
Speaker 4: I'm excited to watch it for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it just lends to it because it's
Speaker 1: just you what they have the prayer or doing this movie.
Speaker 1: That's where Yeah, the benefit of CGI stuff like that
Speaker 1: in the eighties, you couldn't have him be doing all
Speaker 1: this jumping from trees, all these moves and everything like
Speaker 1: that for the whole movie. But that's why they save
Speaker 1: it for a little bit in the middle when they
Speaker 1: show the reveal, but mostly for the end, and that's
Speaker 1: why it works. And it also works too because at
Speaker 1: the end he's not being super high techie. He takes
Speaker 1: off his gear because he just wants like monoy mono Arnold.
Speaker 1: So that was very smart Weather. Like. The good thing
Speaker 1: is it makes sense story wise why he would do that,
Speaker 1: because he's a hunter and it's like Dutches, the last one.
Speaker 1: He's the cream of the crop. I want to really
Speaker 1: take him out. But then it just makes sense practical wise,
Speaker 1: like okay, and this scene, we're gonna have the Preadtor
Speaker 1: moving around lots, let's take his gear off so he
Speaker 1: can kind of move around awkward and.
Speaker 3: Rips naked comes out and.
Speaker 1: He's like, you take yours off? Touch And the only
Speaker 1: the only thing that I will say is like, and
Speaker 1: that whole scene that finale is fantastic, Like I love
Speaker 1: the bill up and they keep going back and forth,
Speaker 1: they're showing the preador getting ready, he's checking his gear
Speaker 1: they're showing Arnold. He's like taking a fucking tree branch
Speaker 1: and like bending it to be a bow and arrow.
Speaker 1: Like he's just like fucking.
Speaker 3: Oh man that over shoulders.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah for a second, like a man flex here.
Speaker 2: He's like it just looks like he was, you know,
Speaker 2: he's doing that exercise.
Speaker 1: Like the manly thing you can think of. He's getting
Speaker 1: the mudy, he's getting the fire. He's just like.
Speaker 4: That predator shot to the shoulder too, so he took
Speaker 4: like a laser beat to the shoulder.
Speaker 2: Just brush it off. He's just like muscling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolute like pinnacle of manly man right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like and he's just yelling in the woods, like
Speaker 1: I want to take this. I want to take Dutch
Speaker 1: in this moment and put him at the ending of
Speaker 1: Northman and see how he does. You know, because like
Speaker 1: he's ready to get down the mud with the cock
Speaker 1: flap and everything. Ar Al did it in our interminaiory.
Speaker 1: You could see his big old flapping cock around. But
Speaker 1: I love everything, the whole build up, the fight. I
Speaker 1: love that he thinks that he has the predator dead
Speaker 1: to right, so that trap and he doesn't, but then
Speaker 1: he turns it on that actually he was like it
Speaker 1: was a trap within a trap that he knew the
Speaker 1: predator would figure it, like it just keeps you guys,
Speaker 1: because I forgot about that when that happened. I actually
Speaker 1: forgot that the predator. I thought he just figured it out,
Speaker 1: and I knew Arnold was gonna get out of it.
Speaker 1: But I forgot that No, Arnold thought he would figure
Speaker 1: it out, so he wanted to Like.
Speaker 3: I didn't take it. I didn't take it like he
Speaker 3: thought he figured that. I thought it was just like
Speaker 3: a counterweight to uh, initial trap. Yeah, I like to
Speaker 3: spring the spikes up because like pin him.
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe I guess just because when he turns and
Speaker 1: looks at the preddor he has like almost like a smile,
Speaker 1: like I got you, motherfuckers. So maybe it was by chance.
Speaker 1: I always took it as like, yeah, he want him
Speaker 1: to come forward, but he kind of did two traps
Speaker 1: of like hey, he could come this way, but he
Speaker 1: perfectly planned like if the preader comes around, I fucking
Speaker 1: got you too, and I love that hole back and forth.
Speaker 1: The only thing I've always said, because I thought this
Speaker 1: was fake the very first time I saw it on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I think we've talked about on geek. First, the only
Speaker 1: thing I'd take out and the movies have as well
Speaker 1: as far as the sequels, is the fucking laugh at
Speaker 1: the end. It makes no sense, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: why they if that was a studio note or someone
Speaker 1: was just like we need something here, not the fact
Speaker 1: that it's just like a laugh like a human when
Speaker 1: Arnold's running away, it's so loud and echoing. It's just
Speaker 1: like it.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, Palpatine.
Speaker 1: Basically it takes me out every time because I'm laughing.
Speaker 1: Good thing. The movie is so great and it doesn't
Speaker 1: even really take points off anything. It's just like, man,
Speaker 1: this was that's the only most like eighties choice. I
Speaker 1: feel like this feels really dated. This feels like you guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't understand the choice. But it's
Speaker 1: just so funny.
Speaker 2: Oh it's it's hilarious.
Speaker 4: I remember even like we did a podcast couple of
Speaker 4: years ago and I think you like brought that up
Speaker 4: and then you like brought up the video clip and
Speaker 4: I just couldn't believe it, like this is a memory
Speaker 4: that was completely wiped from my archives. No, there's no
Speaker 4: way that happens, Like a Mandel effect, and then you
Speaker 4: showed it to me. It's like, I can't believe that's real.
Speaker 4: And then watching this, I was actually watching the subtitles too,
Speaker 4: as I always do. And then like it said, and
Speaker 4: like I wasn't sure if they were trying to show
Speaker 4: like he's like mimicking them or something, because I think
Speaker 4: he like repeats a line that says like word for word,
Speaker 4: and then when he's laughing, it says Billy's laugh That's
Speaker 4: what it said. Oh yeah, So I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: is it just like some device that he has to
Speaker 4: like kind of interface with them, because I mean, is
Speaker 4: that better?
Speaker 2: I don't even know, Like it's just weird.
Speaker 1: It's just like I don't know if that was needed
Speaker 1: for him to laugh, but it okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it explains a little bit. But like he was
Speaker 2: genuinely like like I fucking got you, bastard, run for
Speaker 2: me now.
Speaker 4: Like it was just like a really like mustachetorly villain
Speaker 4: moment of like you think you beat me, well I'm
Speaker 4: gonna explode right, you know.
Speaker 1: And as a massive moment, Arnold still survived, you know.
Speaker 4: Like probably just like used his fucking biceps to just
Speaker 4: shield from the blast oh yeah, high behind it.
Speaker 1: It just just brushes off like Luke Skywalker and last
Speaker 1: year like that was nothing. I'm ready for the ready
Speaker 1: for another predator and stuff.
Speaker 4: But I will agree with you, like everything leading up
Speaker 4: until that point was it was so good and it
Speaker 4: was it was it was like an extended fight sequence
Speaker 4: of like when he when Dutch was was first with
Speaker 4: his crew when the predator was just absolutely destroying them,
Speaker 4: and then he gets sort of away, falls down that
Speaker 4: that waterfall and then it's like a bit of a
Speaker 4: lull until until that water splashes because he's like resting
Speaker 4: in the mud. It's like okay, I have a moment
Speaker 4: to breathe here, and then the water splashes just like no,
Speaker 4: it's still on. And then you know when he gets
Speaker 4: covered in mud, and then it kind of buys them
Speaker 4: some time to plan a strategy and to actually like
Speaker 4: like trap this this predator, this hunter that's hunting him,
Speaker 4: and uh, that entire like I don't even know how
Speaker 4: long that was. It was probably half an hour or
Speaker 4: you know, something around that. And it was so good.
Speaker 4: It was so like I was just totally in it,
Speaker 4: just grinning ear in the ear until the laugh the laugh.
Speaker 1: Was and what I love is like this is like
Speaker 1: a pet pee for me, is it's a finale and
Speaker 1: it really feels like a good final fight, whether it's
Speaker 1: a fight or just like the cat and Mouse game
Speaker 1: I've talked about this when you get like a final
Speaker 1: hero versus villain in the fight's like a few minutes
Speaker 1: and just like man, there's so much like the whole
Speaker 1: movie's building up to this, and the fact that this
Speaker 1: is the whole third act is pretty much just Arnold
Speaker 1: versus the Predator or Dutch versus the Predator. It's great.
Speaker 1: It delivers. You get like different functions too, of like yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just running away, He's trying to trap him to
Speaker 1: the predator. Just like that moment Dutch is crawling away
Speaker 1: and the knives just come like right before his neck.
Speaker 1: Is really sure Dutch one because you want to go monogumno.
Speaker 1: But like if the predator want to kill him, Predator
Speaker 1: won this, like you know, he just got two carried away.
Speaker 1: But that moment where he just puts those knives and
Speaker 1: like they're perfectly around his neck, You're like Jesus Christ
Speaker 1: and he just wants to fight and prove they stronger
Speaker 1: and obviously didn't go that way, but it's just it's
Speaker 1: such a good climactic like final in battle and everything
Speaker 1: like that, so.
Speaker 4: You might know this, dude, is it like a running
Speaker 4: thing for the predators that they like want to have
Speaker 4: as much of a fair fight with like a strong individual,
Speaker 4: because I feel like the time they're like like they're
Speaker 4: actually just hiding in the in the shrubs and camel
Speaker 4: like waiting for their moment to strike.
Speaker 3: It's it's like perfect hunters, right, That's that's what they
Speaker 3: strive strive to be. So when you are, when you're
Speaker 3: squared off against like a preader for the most part,
Speaker 3: like they're gonna see if you're fighting, they're gonna go in.
Speaker 3: They're gonna try and kill you. And like if you're
Speaker 3: good at being like evading them and you prove yourself
Speaker 3: like nd Schwarzenegger managed to do, then that's when you
Speaker 3: become like the cream of the crop. You become like
Speaker 3: the main trophy they want. That's their prize. So if
Speaker 3: you yeah, like what Arnold did, like just in terms
Speaker 3: of evading and just really like fucking this guy over,
Speaker 3: like that's why Okay, like we're pulling the mask off
Speaker 3: and we're gonna go at you like fists and fists
Speaker 3: because you're obviously like a very worthy thing. And that's
Speaker 3: like for the Predator, that's one of the most honorable
Speaker 3: things they like to do, Like they'll they'll know when
Speaker 3: it's like a rival, so that's like an equal to them,
Speaker 3: Like Okay, put the guns down, plasma cast aside, helmet off,
Speaker 3: and we're just gonna go at it. You you kind
Speaker 3: of touched upon it and just to kind of reaiterrate
Speaker 3: back on like when people were watching this and you're
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what's going on. Just having like
Speaker 3: the cloaked figure again like you mentioned, that's one good component,
Speaker 3: but then having this cloaked figure start repeating the character's
Speaker 3: phrases like you mentioned Kirkland when it's like Billy's laughter
Speaker 3: and stuff like the Predtor's.
Speaker 2: Just like anytime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like what the fuck, Like, now, what are
Speaker 3: we dealing with here?
Speaker 4: First I thought Dylan was just tripping, like when you
Speaker 4: heard Max's voice in that moment, but yeah, as it
Speaker 4: makes sense, there is the Predator.
Speaker 2: It's like psych psychological war games, like totally just playing
Speaker 2: with them.
Speaker 4: He's because that's where like I feel like I was
Speaker 4: kind of surprised where I knew they were like the
Speaker 4: perfect hunter, like obviously that's what the Predator and bodies,
Speaker 4: but like these psychological games, it kind of caught me
Speaker 4: off guard, like I just wasn't expecting it. And it's
Speaker 4: not a negative by any means. It's just I wasn't
Speaker 4: expecting it, and it makes them that much scarier honestly,
Speaker 4: because they can just fuck with your brain. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: this guy is this guy like he's losing his mind.
Speaker 4: Let's drop some lines from his buddy. I just blew
Speaker 4: his fucking head off my shoulder cannon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and on top of that his shoulder cannon. You know,
Speaker 1: just like fuck, what else does this guy have? You know?
Speaker 3: You again mentioned it briefly, but that scene, it's probably
Speaker 3: my favorite scene in the whole movie. When aren't you
Speaker 3: think on Schwarzenegger just barely got away. He's in the
Speaker 3: water and he's just crawling in the mud and just
Speaker 3: the splash happens and just the this is one of
Speaker 3: my I like it because this just goes to show
Speaker 3: like how a movie can really just like blow you out,
Speaker 3: blow you out of the water, which just like how
Speaker 3: a scene is done with the score and just the
Speaker 3: acting and just the score. It kicks in and the drum,
Speaker 3: the dramatic moment just just like at an all time
Speaker 3: high peak anxiety, Art Schorsznegger's crawling back in the mud
Speaker 3: and then you just you're waiting for this fucking thing
Speaker 3: to emerge from the water, and then you see the
Speaker 3: dreadlocks kind of floating a little bit. Then it like
Speaker 3: like shakes its head. You're like, holy shit, night, we're
Speaker 3: getting like a full on view of it here. And
Speaker 3: that's where the excitement happens. And just it's slowly just
Speaker 3: coming up onto the water or out of the water
Speaker 3: and looking around like it's just that moment will always
Speaker 3: just be seared in my mind, just how intense it is,
Speaker 3: this thing just moving.
Speaker 1: And then see just chill. He's just chill too, And
Speaker 1: because he's like looking everyone's dead. He's just like looking
Speaker 1: around just like fuck, there's no one near. Like he's
Speaker 1: just he's just like a normal not normal dude, but
Speaker 1: just like he's not like in a mode where he's
Speaker 1: like right to fight. He's just walking just looking at
Speaker 1: the air and everything like that because he thinks he's
Speaker 1: gone everything and then like he said to you that
Speaker 1: you got the heartbeat of not Dutch.
Speaker 3: But you know that was definitely a good, uh derailment,
Speaker 3: I guess kind of like and again it tells you
Speaker 3: everything you need to know as well without being blatantly obvious,
Speaker 3: because yeah, he's just crawling through the mud and it's like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, yeah he uses heat to see us. I
Speaker 3: mean we we actually kind of saw that before that
Speaker 3: he's using heat vision, but just.
Speaker 1: A first of Arnold really realizes.
Speaker 3: That, right exactly. Yeah, and yeah, that just segues into
Speaker 3: him just being a badst even again the reveal when
Speaker 3: he's like he thinks he's in a good spot on
Speaker 3: his tree and he thinks he's just waiting for the predator,
Speaker 3: and then he's just like, here's the noise and he
Speaker 3: looks and the preader is crawling down like right hind
Speaker 3: him on the tree. It's just intense. Luckily, he swings
Speaker 3: and he just like stops moving and silent.
Speaker 4: Tarzan, that was something again, I guess I'm showing my
Speaker 4: limitations on my predator knowledge. I always just assume that
Speaker 4: the thermal vision was like through their helmets and then
Speaker 4: they just had like probably better eyes than us, but
Speaker 4: like relatively normalized. But like when he takes off the
Speaker 4: like the helmet, it's still thermal, but it's like a
Speaker 4: different thermal. Like I feel like there's a lot more
Speaker 4: rings as opposed to Blue and I. I. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: just I feel like I didn't realize that before this movie.
Speaker 4: It's just like, oh, like I feel like that's a
Speaker 4: big counterplay. Is like if you can just use a suit.
Speaker 4: I guess in the eighties they didn't have those, but
Speaker 4: maybe in twenty twenty two, Like I feel like you
Speaker 4: just have a suit that hides your body temperature, and
Speaker 4: like they just won't ever see you, right because it's
Speaker 4: a weakness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they obviously the price, they'll hear you
Speaker 1: and yeah stuff like that. I think they'll maybe be
Speaker 1: in an asshole though, finding but you could strategically find
Speaker 1: a way to take them off. Yeah, just like on Yeah,
Speaker 1: you ugly, But.
Speaker 2: Like it's it's weird.
Speaker 3: Why because when you pull that helmet off and the predator,
Speaker 3: it just goes from like blue and Red just a
Speaker 3: straight red. Their whole world is completely heat, So it
Speaker 3: makes sense why they'd evolve to have this kind of
Speaker 3: like heat based vision and then especially apply it to hunting.
Speaker 3: But that's another component that I love, and they explore
Speaker 3: that down the world, which we'll get to in other movies,
Speaker 3: where they can just cycle through their different visions and
Speaker 3: they detect different forms of heat and different forms of
Speaker 3: light as well.
Speaker 1: Which is pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Okay, I thought I thought it was something like that
Speaker 4: where they had different like vision things. Clearly it was
Speaker 4: introduced in a later film, but no, like the thermal vision,
Speaker 4: like it's just so tied to the predators, Like it's
Speaker 4: just such an iconic thing. They're little noise, They're a
Speaker 4: little like wickering thing. Yeah, oh man, I love it.
Speaker 4: And the shoulder cannon, Like I feel like the first
Speaker 4: time you like you see the shouldercan throughout the movie,
Speaker 4: like just absolutely decimated people. But like the first time
Speaker 4: you see like the like the triangle like dots, like
Speaker 4: the triple dots on Mac like specifically, Like again, I'm
Speaker 4: just trying to like imagine back in the eighties, like
Speaker 4: never even hearing about the predator, Like you haven't even
Speaker 4: really seen it up until this point in the movie,
Speaker 4: and you just see this like weird triple laser pointer
Speaker 4: on this person. It's like, what even is that this
Speaker 4: whole fucking head just explodes Like that would be such
Speaker 4: like a mind blowing moment, like, oh, that's insane. It's
Speaker 4: such a cool iconic like weapon too, And.
Speaker 1: That's a good kind of duality of or you just
Speaker 1: plant like the predator itself, like you take those can
Speaker 1: stuff away that it's like, Okay, it could just be
Speaker 1: a monster in this case, an alien but in the woods, right,
Speaker 1: And that's already scary enough that there's something not of
Speaker 1: this planet hunting these guys down. But then when it
Speaker 1: also has like army tech, like what the predator's guns
Speaker 1: are are the equivalent to what their guns are on
Speaker 1: this planet, right, Like that's their defense or that's their
Speaker 1: what they used to attack. So that's where it's too.
Speaker 1: It's not only is it you know, we've already talked
Speaker 1: about this, but not only is this monster's it's like
Speaker 1: trained monster. Like that's how I think even worse because
Speaker 1: it's like saying that has like you know, probably faster,
Speaker 1: you know, can camouflage, stronger. Oh, but it's also like
Speaker 1: in an arm like it's a soldier of that planet,
Speaker 1: you know. For the shoulder gun comes in because just
Speaker 1: like again another thing on top of like you take
Speaker 1: that away. I'm sure the preder have enough time killing
Speaker 1: these people. You know, he's literally taking peel all the trees,
Speaker 1: pulling that skull and spine out and just dumping the
Speaker 1: body around. So Ken is just like a big fuck
Speaker 1: you to everybody of you know, if I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: get you, I just like snipe you. I can just
Speaker 1: be camouflushed and snipe you from anywhere and stuff. And yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Peter Mac whole team. You know, I appreciate
Speaker 1: that Dylan did go in to try and buy them
Speaker 1: time because it was his felting Gotham there. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate that he kind of manned up and was like, eah,
Speaker 1: I gotta go and like kind of be a like
Speaker 1: I feel like Dylan. No one really like Dylan and
Speaker 1: Billy knew they weren't getting out of scenario. They were
Speaker 1: just trying their best to see.
Speaker 2: If Billy told everybody that everybody should just listen to y.
Speaker 3: Dylan went out like definitely like a boss because he
Speaker 3: went in there, and that's again the score kicks in.
Speaker 3: His one arm gets blasted up and he's still shooting.
Speaker 1: Smg over, Yeah, still shooting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And this fucking preda comes in and just like
Speaker 3: hoists him up on his h his wrist gauntlet nuts
Speaker 3: on the note of the plasma caster when Arnod Swarzeneger
Speaker 3: just gets that first really good shot off on the
Speaker 3: predator and takes out his cloaking when the prenator is
Speaker 3: like inspecting the heat source a little fire at the
Speaker 3: end battle and the predator is just super fucking pissed
Speaker 3: and just just blind firing into the trees.
Speaker 4: I love that, man, And like the visuals of that,
Speaker 4: and again like this is all practical effects in the eighties.
Speaker 2: It's it's it.
Speaker 4: Looks so good because it was just pitch black and
Speaker 4: it's just like a firework display going off and you
Speaker 4: just see like the smoke and then it zooms out
Speaker 4: and it's just you see like the lights from the explosions.
Speaker 4: It's like darkness and you just see the predator standing there. Man,
Speaker 4: what a great image. Like I want to like get
Speaker 4: that wallpaper. It looked so gorgeous and like just tip
Speaker 4: my head, like nineteen eighty seven, like this looks so good.
Speaker 4: And again like all the jungle stuff, it looked really
Speaker 4: really really good.
Speaker 2: I was I was so impressed. I was so impressed,
Speaker 2: which is the.
Speaker 4: Visuals and yeah, the explosions, the powrotechnics, all of like
Speaker 4: the I don't know the logistics that went into it.
Speaker 4: And budget for this was like fifteen million dollars. I
Speaker 4: feel like that's incredibly low. I know, it's in the eighties,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, some inflation, Yeah, exactly, probably.
Speaker 1: It's probably like it's probably, but still it's probably realistic,
Speaker 1: like a forty fifty million nowadays, but that's still lower
Speaker 1: tier budget with our like when we talk about Deadpool
Speaker 1: and Joker, those movies are made around that type of tier,
Speaker 1: right and stuff.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a yeah, I think box office is
Speaker 4: like ninety eight million, and I'm like, you know, like
Speaker 4: going from fifteen million to ninety eight million, that's awesome,
Speaker 4: but like it's just so it seems so.
Speaker 2: Small compared to like what numbers are nowadays.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but back then that was still like huge enough.
Speaker 1: And I think this is one on cable and DVD
Speaker 1: or I guess sorry, fuck VHS cells probably at least
Speaker 1: did well noth and plus this is like still I
Speaker 1: have to look but this is like still the like
Speaker 1: ascent of Arnold, you know, like I feel like he's
Speaker 1: like building up or did termin it, but he's not
Speaker 1: the main star. Turning that was just like, oh he's
Speaker 1: a scary dirt. He did Dutch and I'd have to
Speaker 1: look more IMDb. But I feel like it's not until
Speaker 1: T two where it's like he's already a star, but
Speaker 1: that's when he's like the mega megastar, like this is
Speaker 1: the number one dude in Hollywood, you know, where this
Speaker 1: is still just him building up and everything like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess the totally call that was like
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1: Yeah there's another one. Yeah, but so yeah, like you said,
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, but that's another like huge one for him
Speaker 1: right like on the way. So uh, that's take an
Speaker 1: ad break and we'll give any final things to shut
Speaker 1: out and then a score so we'll be right back
Speaker 1: and we're back. So I think I hit all my notes.
Speaker 1: The only things I wanted to shut out were just
Speaker 1: probably too I think I forgot I either forgot about
Speaker 1: the other comedy one or I show er any But
Speaker 1: I man, here's another thing of like, oh yeah, the
Speaker 1: laugh was one, but here's all the only thing that's eighty.
Speaker 1: It does not affect the movie at all because it's
Speaker 1: after the movie. But man, those end credits are just
Speaker 1: actor turns this camera smile and they give their name,
Speaker 1: even the girl like and it's funny because most of
Speaker 1: them like acting kind of like a little bad aster.
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, it's kind of character to me. When
Speaker 1: the check the girl, she's just like all smiles, like yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm just like it's it's just so funny. But
Speaker 1: then when it's a shot of Arnold, he's just serious
Speaker 1: looking at that and I don't even think it's he's
Speaker 1: doing that with them. It's like a shot from the movie,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like he's like I'm not even
Speaker 1: at that point, like I'm not doing that dumb shit.
Speaker 4: But it like pauses on him too, like everybody else, yes,
Speaker 4: like they're moving and then it's just like the star
Speaker 4: of the show, I have a nice look.
Speaker 1: Yeah I was hal and at that I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like this is just it's so silly
Speaker 1: and I love it because that's what you did back
Speaker 1: then and it would not take any points down. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that was my last thing that we hadn't talked about
Speaker 1: that I wanted to shout out.
Speaker 4: Oh man and like that shot too of that same
Speaker 4: credit when they had the actor they did Billy and
Speaker 4: it's it's like serious and he does that like ferocious
Speaker 4: laugh and it's like the scene and who is it?
Speaker 4: Hawkins like goes and tells that joke about it. He's
Speaker 4: like he's like going down to his girlfriend and then
Speaker 4: he like he says that, ye go joke.
Speaker 5: Pussy, Well, I have a big pussy, And Billy's just
Speaker 5: like so straight faced, like he's been this whole mission
Speaker 5: and then he just like lets out this like ridiculous
Speaker 5: laugh and I guess it's what the predator stole and
Speaker 5: you know used.
Speaker 1: In the end.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, that was a weird scene.
Speaker 4: But going off my notes, so, like I said, I
Speaker 4: mostly just wrote down things I had issues with, which
Speaker 4: was only four things. For me, I felt like the
Speaker 4: character Mac was just so so all over the place
Speaker 4: for me, Like initially, yeah, the fuckings.
Speaker 1: Playing point, Yeah, oh my god, they're.
Speaker 4: Like about to like have a firefight possibly like like
Speaker 4: fingers on the trigger, ready to go, and he's just
Speaker 4: like shaving like up here too, like not even where
Speaker 4: like his his face would be like so high up.
Speaker 1: And then in case he dies, he wants to look
Speaker 1: good for that open cask at funeral, you know.
Speaker 4: And again like maybe they're just trying to make it
Speaker 4: look like these guys are fucking weird, like they're commandos,
Speaker 4: you know, like they're they're wackos. But yeah, when he
Speaker 4: was when he was doing that, and I think like
Speaker 4: when they were first dropping lines like you just talk
Speaker 4: like very softly, and like I feel like every line
Speaker 4: that he was saying, they wanted to have.
Speaker 2: Like just just say a lot without saying a lot,
Speaker 2: if that makes any sense. And then when fuck, when
Speaker 2: Jesse Ventura dies whatever that character's.
Speaker 4: Name is, he just like he like snaps, I swear,
Speaker 4: like he goes through like a psychosis snap where he
Speaker 4: is like because what follows him just taking the mini
Speaker 4: gun and just absolutely like cutting down the entire rainforest
Speaker 4: right then and there, and then uh like for the
Speaker 4: rest of the movie, Like he just felt so whacky
Speaker 4: and crazy for me, and it just felt like such
Speaker 4: a shift.
Speaker 1: And I like he was shot though, so that could
Speaker 1: explain it, right that he's in he's just like that's
Speaker 1: how he's dealing with pain and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I was trying to tell myself too,
Speaker 4: like he's actually losing his mind, and that's like it's
Speaker 4: supposed to be a thing because he's just saw a ghost,
Speaker 4: like essentially right, like he just saw a ghost that's
Speaker 4: like bleeding green, like everything that he thought he knows
Speaker 4: is just out the window, and he's just freaking out,
Speaker 4: like he thinks he's gonna die. So I feel like
Speaker 4: I was trying to tell myself that, but I think
Speaker 4: the way that he was in the beginning of the
Speaker 4: film too, like when that snap happens, it was just
Speaker 4: a little bit too kooky for me, and I was
Speaker 4: just really hard to take it seriously.
Speaker 2: And then when he's shaving his face.
Speaker 3: You want to be careful who you're stuck on, like
Speaker 3: the bush with against an alien, because if you see
Speaker 3: like here, you see your guy he supposed to rely
Speaker 3: on and.
Speaker 1: He's going up, I'm ha me some fun. I'm having
Speaker 1: some fun. He's just sonder at all.
Speaker 3: He's like, fuck, this guy is not all there right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, okay, let's just hope he gets out,
Speaker 4: but let's focus. I get into the chop for just
Speaker 4: us and then you know, we'll we'll do a fly
Speaker 4: by if we see him, will grab him, but I
Speaker 4: disclaimed I think he's a part of the woods.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: The other note that I just kind of had an
Speaker 4: issue with was and I feel like, I feel like,
Speaker 4: I like the idea of this moment is when the
Speaker 4: predator like escapes that firefight essentially and then he goes
Speaker 4: up on the tree and he just like patches himself up,
Speaker 4: but he just pulls out like the most dollar store
Speaker 4: looking first aid kit, and it's just like such like
Speaker 4: I swear I saw like a Maiden China stamp on
Speaker 4: his scissors that he grabbed it. Like it just seemed
Speaker 4: really weird, and I get it. It's like the eighties.
Speaker 4: They're just trying to like show that he can like
Speaker 4: field dress himself or not field dress that's when you're
Speaker 4: you're hunting, but like field first aid repair himself, you know,
Speaker 4: whatever that term is. And like I feel like I
Speaker 4: like that that process. But it was just so and
Speaker 4: again this is probably like the dating of it, Like
Speaker 4: in the eighties they just they thought this looked like
Speaker 4: high tech.
Speaker 2: Like first aid kit.
Speaker 4: It just seemed really weird, especially like I could see
Speaker 4: like the rubber fingers like handling this syringe and like
Speaker 4: just squirret on.
Speaker 2: It just looked weird. Kind of took me.
Speaker 1: I agree a little. It's a I don't know if
Speaker 1: they even need to show his like first aid kid,
Speaker 1: like I get that preparing, but yeah, it did not
Speaker 1: look like all this high tech.
Speaker 2: Here and this is what you got going on, let's see.
Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah.
Speaker 4: And then in that last fight, I mean I was,
Speaker 4: I was praising it, but there was one thing I'm
Speaker 4: gotta wrote down because I completely forgot about it. But
Speaker 4: when the predators just like beating the shit out of
Speaker 4: Arnie and it's like through his thermal version, I just
Speaker 4: feel like parsonally I would have liked it if it
Speaker 4: wasn't in the thermal vision, because it was just like
Speaker 4: a lot of red and you just like and I'm like,
Speaker 4: is he winning?
Speaker 2: Is he losing?
Speaker 4: Like he's getting like it was kind of hard to
Speaker 4: follow in that moment, But again it's kind of minor.
Speaker 2: Overall.
Speaker 4: The fight for the most part was fantastic, but that
Speaker 4: was just something like, this is a little bit messy here.
Speaker 4: And then my fourth note was just the cackle at
Speaker 4: the end.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like my my first negative point didn't even
Speaker 4: occur till halfway through the movie, because, like I said,
Speaker 4: up until it like I thought I was gonna be
Speaker 4: given this a ten out of ten movie or a
Speaker 4: ten out of ten movie, ten at ten rating, and
Speaker 4: and then you know there.
Speaker 2: Was some minor things that brought it down a bit.
Speaker 4: But man, overall, for me, it came out that long ago,
Speaker 4: and it's like it's like kind of made like like
Speaker 4: people make parodies of it, and there's like the one
Speaker 4: liners are so mimable now, like it's it holds up
Speaker 4: so goddamn well. And I think, uh, I think one
Speaker 4: of you said, like I feel like it's it's a
Speaker 4: tough one to or what's a better way to say,
Speaker 4: Like it wouldn't have had the effect that it would
Speaker 4: have had if it wasn't Arnie. It's just like a
Speaker 4: perfect aligning of the planets to like have this movie
Speaker 4: come out at this time when Arnie was just so huge.
Speaker 3: You know, he's just doing it the sun right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, essentially in this in the few years stretches, right,
Speaker 4: because when did Terminator come out?
Speaker 2: The first one?
Speaker 1: I think it's like eighty two or something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it's it's yeah, it's because he did
Speaker 1: like he did like uh, I think like Hercules, and
Speaker 1: that's a movie where he did it, and they like
Speaker 1: vowed him because they're like, well, no one's gonna understand him,
Speaker 1: so like it's not his voice in it. And then
Speaker 1: and then yeah, I think, like I think it's a
Speaker 1: two where he does Terminator because Cameron just needs a
Speaker 1: guy I as legend had it was almost O J. Simpson,
Speaker 1: but that didn't work out and good thing for many reasons,
Speaker 1: wasn't O J. Simpson, but sor I was wrong. Terminator
Speaker 1: was nineteen eighty four, and the other things that got
Speaker 1: him started, like gets known was eighty two and eighty four.
Speaker 1: He also had Cone in The Dua Barbarian and The Destroyer.
Speaker 1: Then he did Terminator in eighty four, Commando in eighty five,
Speaker 1: he did this in eighty seven, The Running Man in
Speaker 1: eighty seven, Ruled.
Speaker 2: The Eighties, Oh yeah, sane, oh yeah, crazy.
Speaker 1: The Twins, Total Recall, and then Kindergarten Cop and then
Speaker 1: T two in ninety one, and that's when I think
Speaker 1: it really really kicked off. It's like big time. And
Speaker 1: then he did True Lies obviously, which was great, and
Speaker 1: the eraser jingle all the way Batman and Robin and yeah.
Speaker 2: What year was?
Speaker 4: I apologize if you said it, but the the oh
Speaker 4: my gosh, what's even called the Christmas one that we watched.
Speaker 1: For nineteen ninety nineteen ninety six is with the year
Speaker 1: is so so it's almost a deckhead after this, So
Speaker 1: you can see where his career did change into that
Speaker 1: when he paid more mainstream of like, well you could
Speaker 1: do some fun. Hey fuck, I love ding all the way.
Speaker 1: But because you gave your kind of a final notes
Speaker 1: a Kirk and what would you give? You say? He
Speaker 1: almost was gonna give it a ten but sounds yeah,
Speaker 1: so what is the score?
Speaker 2: I honestly, I mean I'm gonna go nine point five?
Speaker 4: I I yeah, it was. It was such an enjoyable
Speaker 4: watch for me. I it was awesome. It was such
Speaker 4: a fun movie, like I was. I was very much
Speaker 4: in it, like the cheesy moments like it's not like
Speaker 4: oh eye roll like yeah fuck yeah.
Speaker 2: Cheesy line like that was awesome. It really worked.
Speaker 4: Arnold was so good seeing Carl Weather's like in this role,
Speaker 4: just you know, pulling from his character in The Mando.
Speaker 4: It's it's really funny. Just like the comparisons there, but man,
Speaker 4: he was fucking shredded, especially you know, pulling off that
Speaker 4: log like he.
Speaker 2: I mean all, like the whole crew just were shredded.
Speaker 4: And I love their outfits, like it's just like that
Speaker 4: stereotypical commando essentially what Ben Stiller was wearing a.
Speaker 2: Tropic thunder Like it's it's exactly.
Speaker 4: Pulled from that. But man, it it's so good. And
Speaker 4: I think like the minimal usage of the Predator helps
Speaker 4: it so much because he like, I'm curious what the
Speaker 4: what the screen time actually is of the Predator on screen,
Speaker 4: and I guess I could count like the the camouflage
Speaker 4: version two, because even if you include that, I feel
Speaker 4: like it's pretty pretty small.
Speaker 1: I imagine like ten to fifteen or something. Are you
Speaker 1: looking up right now, Taylor.
Speaker 3: No, I was just actually I was actually looking up,
Speaker 3: like because when you said with Carl Weather's being super jacked,
Speaker 3: I was looking up in comparison when Rocky was out
Speaker 3: and just trying to see like the difference there, because
Speaker 3: he would have been like super for a pall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nine point five for a movie in nineteen seven. Man, Oh,
Speaker 4: I'm so glad I was jumping on this retro to
Speaker 4: watch these movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's only down from here pretty much. But
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna have some fun out. You know,
Speaker 1: there's some good in there. I'm excited talk about Predators
Speaker 1: because I hav been a long time, like I said,
Speaker 1: to talk about Predder too. But yeah, I'll go next.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find that screen time for the first
Speaker 1: Predator I could do. Okay, yeah you do that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a little lower than kirkle mem at a nine.
Speaker 1: The only reason it's not ten is because, like I think,
Speaker 1: the beginning you all need that, you all need the setup.
Speaker 1: But as I said before, I think at ten out
Speaker 1: of ten for me is a movie that I know,
Speaker 1: even if it's depressed and then I'm gonna watch a bunch.
Speaker 1: I do like watching this movie, but it's not one
Speaker 1: that I need to watch right away, and I think
Speaker 1: is the beginning eventually would be you know, it's perfect
Speaker 1: for watching it. But I just mean like there's only
Speaker 1: a certain level of excitement or what I like about
Speaker 1: with that I love more the middle portion in the
Speaker 1: end I have, like I think, with a lot of
Speaker 1: like curtaincy like little nitpick Meyer once here and there
Speaker 1: but as I always say, like I kind of give
Speaker 1: it as an excite or enjoyment as far as what
Speaker 1: I found exciting as far not so much a critical.
Speaker 1: So that's where I'm a nine. It's not at a
Speaker 1: full ten, but I'm at a nine, which is still
Speaker 1: all solid score screen time.
Speaker 2: Yes, are you ready?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You said what fifteen minutes is a fifteen?
Speaker 1: I'll say, I'll say thirteen twenty six.
Speaker 4: Taylor, any guesses before I reveal, He probably dooggle he's
Speaker 4: gonna say the exactly that, or he's just seeing the
Speaker 4: movie so many times.
Speaker 3: No, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eight minutes. Really that's shocking. I feel like.
Speaker 4: That's shorter even than what I would have said I
Speaker 4: would have someone like least crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it's just because like that last fight too,
Speaker 4: just feels a lot longer than eight minutes.
Speaker 1: And but probably he's not on screen for a lot
Speaker 1: of it's Arnold just run around everything, right, So m hm,
Speaker 1: tear phild take us on what would you get this movie? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be biased.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go full ten and ten, like even with
Speaker 3: the laugh at the end, everything like it just uh,
Speaker 3: it was a bold movie and it just let us
Speaker 3: down a awesome road of sequels and everything. And yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just, uh, he's such a cool it's a cool concept.
Speaker 3: It's such a left curve of a storyline, like he said, Travis,
Speaker 3: having this military team going in doing their objective and
Speaker 3: their mission and then all of a sudden, what kind
Speaker 3: of a curve ball could happen? It's an alien hunting
Speaker 3: killing machine with advanced technology. It's just done so well.
Speaker 3: The action scenes I really really jive with. I really
Speaker 3: really like some things are definitely dated. With the terminology
Speaker 3: and the lingo. Stuff I definitely wouldn't repeat in today's society.
Speaker 1: And they probably wouldn't either now. Like I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that makes it right, but like back then, there's certain
Speaker 1: things that you said that were people and hey, that
Speaker 1: now is offensive because communities had a chance to speak
Speaker 1: up now, you know exactly. But yeah, it's just this movie.
Speaker 3: I watch it probably at least once a year, and
Speaker 3: it's just it's it's so good. I have one last
Speaker 3: little bit of like cool trivia, which I think I've
Speaker 3: told you guys before, but it's a video I'm gonna
Speaker 3: play and let me know it's only be like fifteen
Speaker 3: seconds long. Let me know if you guys recognize the
Speaker 3: sound of this and here we go.
Speaker 1: I feel like when you said that up, it's like,
Speaker 1: what else would the sound be? Like, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a laugh of billy. Ah. It's like I saw the crow.
Speaker 1: I saw the crow making or the video there. But
Speaker 1: I'm like, whether sound would you'd be like, oh, what
Speaker 1: sound anything? This is guys, you know, but yeah.
Speaker 3: I just think that I love that. It's just like
Speaker 3: it's just a crow. I've been out in parking lots
Speaker 3: and you just you hear the fucking prider.
Speaker 2: No, he's like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: And you just see those dots and this.
Speaker 2: Can have be some fun to start repeating that.
Speaker 1: Well, holay, gentlemen, we did it. Uh yeah, I imagine
Speaker 1: when you're on Patreon check out, because it'll be kind
Speaker 1: of weekly what up, but on live feeds should be
Speaker 1: kind of every week or so you'll get another one.
Speaker 1: We'll be doing Predator too with Donald uh Danny Glover
Speaker 1: sorry not Donald Glo or Danny Glover and uh oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm forgetting the other guy with the teeth and he
Speaker 1: is uh blonde. God. I thank Gary Gary Busey, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. So, uh, it should be fun because
Speaker 1: I haven't talked about the while. I imagine it's gonna
Speaker 1: be different comparing it to this one. But there's a
Speaker 1: couple of good Easter eggs in there. So thank you
Speaker 1: very much. With it's Twitter, Facebook, discord Our, Patreon, everything,
Speaker 1: let us know what you thought about, let us know
Speaker 1: what you would score it, and we promised when hear
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