1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Donna no, no, no, Hello, and welcome to the Predator Retrospective. 2 00:00:07,799 --> 00:00:11,599 I am if it leads tras now and I'm joined by. 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:13,919 Speaker 2: The Commando Kirklan Patzer. 4 00:00:14,759 --> 00:00:16,519 Speaker 3: It ain't got time to bleed Taylor Field. 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,359 Speaker 1: So, Kirkland, did you pick that name on purpose? Because 6 00:00:19,359 --> 00:00:20,399 it's a double on Tandra? 7 00:00:21,679 --> 00:00:23,879 Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that. What's the double on Tandra? 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: Arnold Schuszenegger is in a movie called Commando. 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, maybe an Arnold 10 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:30,760 the retro. 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: Oh one day. As we've said, when we get through 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,240 all the big franchises, we're doing actors and directors, but 13 00:00:36,359 --> 00:00:39,439 it's a long ways away. But uh yeah, we this 14 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,399 is a one we just added to the roster. We 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,399 had not planned on the schedule. But Pray is coming out. 16 00:00:44,399 --> 00:00:46,520 It's coming out August fifth. Of course we're gonna be 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,920 reviewing that because that's you know, Taylor was gonna do 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,719 that review no matter what. But we're gonna tag along 19 00:00:50,759 --> 00:00:52,600 because you think you'll learn this retro that me and 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,119 Kirkland we're big time Prayer fans. Just that maybe the 21 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:58,240 past few years we've gone some iffy content, but we 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,520 get to start with the movie that started all but Taylor, 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,119 We're gonna have this going on. We're gonna have lots 24 00:01:02,119 --> 00:01:04,280 of other retros, tons of content happening. I'm saying that 25 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,040 because I don't know exactly when this starts, because right 26 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,480 now the patrons are getting this early the day it records. 27 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,200 But Patreon, you can get stuff early, you get ad 28 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,200 free exclusive, you can support us. That means more content, 29 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,280 more retrospective, all that stuff. Where can they find it? 30 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,319 When we're putting out this product. 31 00:01:18,599 --> 00:01:21,079 Speaker 3: Ladies, don't make conmind us with your interconnection in the 32 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,000 search bar. Geek Verse that say is our own based 33 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,319 keik first Cast is our Twitter and geek verse on 34 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,359 our Facebook. 35 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: Boom, there we go. We're not gonna do the usual thing. 36 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,480 It's the Predator came out in the eighties. If you've 37 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,760 not seen it and you feel like you're gonna get spoiled, 38 00:01:35,239 --> 00:01:37,560 that's on you. You've had plenty of time to watch. 39 00:01:37,719 --> 00:01:39,799 That's how it works for retrospectives. It's a free talk. 40 00:01:39,879 --> 00:01:42,359 You're tuning in thinking that, Okay, I've seen this movie 41 00:01:42,599 --> 00:01:45,000 or maybe I want to just I don't care. I 42 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,879 just want to hear people's thoughts. So Krook pats Are. 43 00:01:46,879 --> 00:01:49,120 I'm gonna start with you, aust is what we do 44 00:01:49,159 --> 00:01:51,879 in retrospectives. Do you remember the first time that you 45 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,599 saw The Predator? And obviously what do you think about 46 00:01:54,599 --> 00:01:55,519 it now after this watch? 47 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is definitely one that we had on 48 00:01:59,159 --> 00:02:02,760 VHS back the day, and I I. 49 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: Felt like I remember this movie differently. 50 00:02:04,319 --> 00:02:06,599 Speaker 4: Like there's definitely scenes that I do remember, like some 51 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:08,560 iconic moments, but a lot of this movie I just 52 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:10,800 don't remember, like at all. So I definitely like haven't 53 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,520 revisited since I've been an adult. 54 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,159 Speaker 1: It was the last time you watch not the first time, 55 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:16,560 any think, is the last time you watched this? 56 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:19,599 Speaker 4: Like honestly, I was probably like ten years old like 57 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,800 around there, Like it was a long time ago, and 58 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,080 like I was remembering this as like another movie. I 59 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,000 don't know if it was Predator too, or like even 60 00:02:26,039 --> 00:02:28,560 some alien versus Predator stuff, because like I remember particular 61 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:30,719 Predator moments that I just was not in this movie. 62 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:33,680 It's just like, Okay, I'm totally misremembering some of these things. 63 00:02:33,719 --> 00:02:37,120 Obviously I remember like the big quotable lines, but yeah, 64 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,080 there was a lot of like character stuff that just 65 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,840 felt completely new to me. So this movie actually felt 66 00:02:41,879 --> 00:02:44,280 like very fresh. You know, it's a nice sense on 67 00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:46,599 Disney plus but made very easy. I have like the 68 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,560 HD version two, you know, for an eighties movie like 69 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:51,240 this looked. This looked really really good. 70 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:53,439 Speaker 1: I gotta give it to like, ay, like, because we 71 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,000 watched recently the Stars movies, lots of the eighty movies 72 00:02:56,039 --> 00:02:58,759 that Disney has converted over. They look really smooth and 73 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,280 really good. Whether that's Disney or whoever company is doing it, 74 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:04,000 they look really nice. So yeah, I appreciate thank you 75 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,400 for buying Fox and making this retrospective quite easy, you know, so. 76 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: Exactly giving a Deadpool and Marvel you know sometimes. 77 00:03:10,199 --> 00:03:11,319 Speaker 1: In Predator of five too. 78 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure he's gonna show up and pray. 79 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,599 Speaker 1: Uh hey, guys just ruins. 80 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: So yeah, like, like I honestly like, like I remember 81 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:23,360 the main hitting points of this movie, but for the 82 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,319 most part, like it was pretty fresh, Like like a 83 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,120 lot of stuff was as if I was seeing it 84 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,759 for the first time, just because it's been so long 85 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,240 since I've watched this, And I must say, like I 86 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,879 thoroughly enjoyed this movie. Like I was, I was so 87 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,280 in it and like I just kept smiling on like 88 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,960 scenes and like maybe there'd be some like classic eighties 89 00:03:39,039 --> 00:03:41,120 cheesy moments, but like I was just eating it up, 90 00:03:41,159 --> 00:03:42,479 like it was really working for me. 91 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: I felt like maybe. 92 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 4: There's some moments that were a little bit cheesy, uh 93 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:48,639 that maybe I could It's like, oh. 94 00:03:48,599 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: What are we being here but eighties? 95 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 4: Though? 96 00:03:50,639 --> 00:03:53,719 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Exactly a couple of words dropped. You're like, oh. 97 00:03:55,639 --> 00:03:59,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, absolutely, Like there's definitely some joke. It's just like, 98 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,479 especially the first ten minutes just hearing, like a line's like. 99 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is like the worst Xbox Live chat 100 00:04:05,039 --> 00:04:07,400 right now, You're like, oh God, get us out of hearing. 101 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:10,879 Speaker 4: But like, I just love how I feel like also 102 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,439 like a lot of like cheesy moments that might be 103 00:04:13,479 --> 00:04:15,919 pulled from this movie, like started from this movie. So 104 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,800 like when people make fun of like some class like 105 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,639 you know, commando type dude, it's like I feel like 106 00:04:19,639 --> 00:04:21,279 they're they're pulling it from this movie. 107 00:04:21,319 --> 00:04:23,079 Speaker 2: So I feel like it just it paved the way 108 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:23,959 for a lot of those. 109 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,199 Speaker 1: Tropic thunder yeah oh yeah, the whole scene where he 110 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,600 accidentally murders the pig or whatever in this movie, that's 111 00:04:29,639 --> 00:04:32,040 exactly what he does with the pand entropic thunder like 112 00:04:32,319 --> 00:04:34,959 it's it's you're completely right, Like it's one of those 113 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,759 quintessential movies that people saw and was like whether they're 114 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:40,519 they're kind of tributing it or pairing it, it's it's 115 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,319 definitely one of those touchstones for people. 116 00:04:42,959 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think like just like the minimal use 117 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:49,040 of the Predator for most of this movie, like it just. 118 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: Works so well. 119 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,519 Speaker 4: It was so phenomenal like on it like I have 120 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,920 my notes of the movie and I literally just wrote 121 00:04:55,959 --> 00:04:57,920 down things that I had issues with and it's like 122 00:04:57,959 --> 00:05:00,680 four things, like like I think I been tell halfway 123 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,000 through this movie it was a ten out of ten, 124 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:02,519 Like it was. 125 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 2: It was so perfect. I was so in it, like 126 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,519 like the just. 127 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 4: With how they were in the jungle and like it 128 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,680 just it really really fit, Like it felt very isolated, 129 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,040 and I man like that this is just such a 130 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,000 special movie and I'm kind of ashamed I didn't revisit 131 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,600 like until now, honestly, Like it's nice for doing the retro. 132 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,240 It kind of forced me to do it and just 133 00:05:22,319 --> 00:05:25,959 really appreciate the quality of this. And yeah, I think 134 00:05:25,959 --> 00:05:28,639 that was my biggest takeaway from this is just how impressed. 135 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,240 I was that like like the the aging of this movie, 136 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,480 like like it's still so enjoyable. It's not like, oh 137 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,959 my god, this is so dated, like very eighties like 138 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,120 hard to watch. Like no, I was so in it. 139 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,319 Arnold is just fantastic. He is just like in his peak, 140 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:44,480 I'd say, in this oh. 141 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, and these are the peak years, like right around here, 142 00:05:47,319 --> 00:05:49,319 and then probably the nineteen ninety two a Terminator or two, 143 00:05:49,399 --> 00:05:51,560 like he did some other bangers like True Lives, but like, yeah, 144 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,639 these like eighties years of Predator, Terminator Teach, Oh yeah, 145 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,360 all this stuff like glass Action here, which man the 146 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:00,399 grace me. But still there there's a quite a few 147 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,399 just bangers he was doing and he was delivering big time. 148 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:04,199 Oh yeah. 149 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:07,759 Speaker 4: And like man, Carl Weathers, Like then that montage with 150 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,279 him like ripping his shirt off, I'm like, holy ship, Carl, 151 00:06:10,439 --> 00:06:13,040 like Jesus his abs and he was so jacked, like 152 00:06:13,079 --> 00:06:13,439 there's just so. 153 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: Much great to be to be champion right there. 154 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,079 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was very very surprised and impressed in those 155 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:19,839 in those scenes. 156 00:06:19,879 --> 00:06:22,319 Speaker 3: But that one scene where they're hoisting the log up 157 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,560 and they're all just listening in the sun like they're 158 00:06:25,639 --> 00:06:26,399 just shredded. 159 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so you're gonna help out or you're just gonna, 160 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,879 you know, complain. He's like, okay, rips your shirt off, 161 00:06:31,959 --> 00:06:35,360 just like I'm watching Top Gun, just like they're all 162 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:37,279 sweaty and uh muscley men. 163 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: But it was, it was fantastic. I really really love 164 00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:42,040 this movie. I'll pass along there and we can dive 165 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:43,000 into some nitty gritties. 166 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I should say what we're retroing is 167 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,600 predator preyor to predators, and then I think that's yeah, 168 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,560 that's it. At some point we'll do Alien, and then 169 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,759 after we do Alien, we'll do the a vps because 170 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:57,519 I so want to watch because I so want to 171 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,279 watch those, especially because kirklans like, I'm pretty sure that 172 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:02,680 first one's at least good. It's like, oh man, but honestly, 173 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,560 I have not actually seen them in a long time, 174 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,360 so I'd love to give them a chance because even then, 175 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:08,199 at the end of day, if the story is not 176 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,360 the great, so well, it's Alien versus predder, right, that's 177 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:10,920 what you're there for. 178 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,279 Speaker 3: But I gotta I got a good story about the 179 00:07:13,319 --> 00:07:15,360 supposed third one of the A v P movies. So 180 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,199 when we get to that retro. Remind me to tell 181 00:07:17,279 --> 00:07:21,079 that story? Well maybe maybe, Yeah, it involves the directors. 182 00:07:21,439 --> 00:07:23,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I try not to forget that five years later 183 00:07:23,319 --> 00:07:25,439 when we do you know, I'll make maybe when they 184 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:28,959 announced a VP three for real. So actually, Taylor, feel 185 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,040 you go because I got I'm confident a store here? 186 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:33,040 So where What was the first time sat Predator? And 187 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:33,879 what do you think about now? 188 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, Preda was my first indoctrination into this franchise. It 189 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:41,800 wasn't Alien, was anything like that. It was starting off 190 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,639 the Breder my dad that actually got me on board 191 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:47,079 with it, and I could tell it was definitely a 192 00:07:47,079 --> 00:07:49,319 fathersomee where the father was like super excited to share 193 00:07:49,399 --> 00:07:51,079 this kind of like the same with my day. 194 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: I completely agree with that. Yeah, my dad, I fucking 195 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:55,000 love this movie. 196 00:07:54,759 --> 00:07:58,439 Speaker 4: From the twinkle in their eye little ten year old 197 00:07:58,439 --> 00:08:00,480 you know, like the beame of like little Kiani stage, 198 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:01,360 That's how I felt. 199 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: Exactly. 200 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:10,319 Speaker 3: So getting into Predator, it's just it's it's so it's 201 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:13,040 so special, has that sentimentality to it, but it's it's 202 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,920 such a unique film and it doesn't need to be 203 00:08:14,959 --> 00:08:16,920 anything more than what it is. It's just they use 204 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,319 the scenes and what they have very very well, and 205 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,879 it just has a very good trajectory to it. And 206 00:08:22,279 --> 00:08:24,680 I can't imagine anyone else has an Honld Schwarzenegger and 207 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,720 that lead role squaring off against the Predator. But yeah, 208 00:08:27,879 --> 00:08:30,000 I would have been. I probably would have been like 209 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,919 Tennis or so. And how it worked for me was okay, 210 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,720 Like I got through Predator and then I did Predator 211 00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:36,399 too and worked my way up, and I was just 212 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:39,440 I knew what aliens were. I knew aliens were involved 213 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,000 with Predator, but I knew I wasn't ready for aliens 214 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:46,000 because of the gest dating thing and I being young 215 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:46,759 and knowing that's the thing. 216 00:08:46,799 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: It's just really gross. 217 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,759 Speaker 3: And finally like I'm manned up and I did the 218 00:08:49,759 --> 00:08:52,039 whole alien train, but Predator was where. 219 00:08:51,879 --> 00:08:52,639 Speaker 2: Babies come from. 220 00:08:53,039 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Predator was my first like yeah, initiation into this 221 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,240 this realm. And I think, as far as like aliens go, 222 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:03,399 one of the first kind of like alien things. It 223 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,759 was up there with Starship Troopers for like early on 224 00:09:05,919 --> 00:09:13,639 like understanding the whole alien thing. But uh, sorry that 225 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,759 someone else is gonna jump on there. 226 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: I didn't feel like you're finishing your thoughts. You're just 227 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:21,399 talking about Starship Troopers randomly and then you saw talking. 228 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, everything that's stemmed from Predator, though, I've just I've 229 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:29,240 eaten up and fallen in love with. Like, it's just 230 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,919 it's such a unique thing, and you're right, it's it's 231 00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:35,279 basically been a core for many movies to not necessarily 232 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,440 parody off of, but just rip off of in terms 233 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,519 of certain cinematic moments. And I think just when you 234 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,840 get that opening sequence of just the ship flying above 235 00:09:44,879 --> 00:09:47,519 Earth and this little thing flying towards the planet and 236 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,679 you you don't really know what you're in store for, 237 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,120 and I think that's a great use of cinematography too, 238 00:09:53,159 --> 00:09:56,399 and storytelling. How just this whole time you really don't 239 00:09:56,399 --> 00:09:58,519 know what you're up against. And yes, it is invisible, 240 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,679 and you could be like, oh, maybe that's like a 241 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,600 cop out, but not at all. It's just the way 242 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:07,799 that they play it out, just this mysterious hunter. And yeah, 243 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,200 it's just it proved to be such a simple thing 244 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,039 that is just such an iconic historical thing at the 245 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,639 same time that's spun so many sequels and everything like that. 246 00:10:16,759 --> 00:10:20,600 And I mean, I've got Predator action figures in my 247 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,240 my office here, Like I'm advid gamer of the Predator 248 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:26,960 franchise and titles and stuff like that. 249 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,879 Speaker 1: So yeah, we've talked about Predator before. 250 00:10:29,639 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: And the we absolutely have. 251 00:10:32,639 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. So for me, I think the very first time 252 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,559 I honestly saw it was probably like on the Sci 253 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,159 Fi Channel. Definitely, I feel like edited because it's one 254 00:10:40,159 --> 00:10:42,320 of those you're watching like, oh, this isn't how it's 255 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,159 supposed to be. And I don't know when exactly I 256 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,080 had watched it for the first but I just like 257 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,679 I was in that zone of I've always said, like 258 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,720 from like two thousand and five, two thousand and six 259 00:10:52,759 --> 00:10:53,960 and when I was like, Okay, I gotta start watching 260 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,799 all these movies now, and just like I think I 261 00:10:55,919 --> 00:10:57,919 just like watched a bunch of them together and same 262 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,639 thing with Aliens, just kind of did them all. And 263 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,159 the last time I saw this movies was quite a 264 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,759 few years ago. It was actually I don't know why, 265 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:08,120 because like, yes, boys, like I love this movie. It's great. 266 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,480 Maybe's just because it's you kind of not know it 267 00:11:10,519 --> 00:11:12,840 off beat by beat, but it's a pretty simplistic movie. 268 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,279 And I don't know if you could watch it again 269 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,200 and again because not too much happens, but like what 270 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,080 happens is great, So I think it's almost nice to 271 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,039 have that little break and almost you forget about the 272 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,679 little specificness of it. And then when you watch, like, oh, 273 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,480 write this scene and this scene, this is how Billy 274 00:11:25,519 --> 00:11:28,039 goes and stuff like that, like all these moments, and 275 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,600 I think the last time I watched it was funny. 276 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,799 I was at Emily's when she used to live with 277 00:11:31,879 --> 00:11:34,279 her best friend, the roommate, and I remember Emily went 278 00:11:34,279 --> 00:11:35,600 to work. I used to have Mondays off and she 279 00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:37,200 worked Mondays and she's like, yeah, you can have the 280 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,960 house alone and everything like that, just hang out and 281 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,799 stuff until I get back. I'm like, okay, And the 282 00:11:41,879 --> 00:11:44,360 roommate wasn't there. This is not to do with the story, 283 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,159 was tune obi wan, But I hear I am just 284 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,480 watching Predator and not butt ass naked, but I'm just 285 00:11:48,519 --> 00:11:50,399 on the couch. She got my shirt off and she 286 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,919 comes in and just like Predator, huh yeah, and then 287 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,399 she went in to her man. It was just awkward 288 00:11:55,399 --> 00:11:57,200 because like I knew her well enough, but it was 289 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,399 still like I'm just sitting in her living room shirt off, 290 00:11:59,399 --> 00:12:01,519 watching Predda at her and like, I'm sure it's a 291 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:06,000 card yeah, yeah, I'm sure at some point. 292 00:12:05,919 --> 00:12:08,399 Speaker 3: Where they're the characters are glistling and the sun just 293 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:09,759 bo He's ripped. 294 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,039 Speaker 1: And she probably closed her door and is like man 295 00:12:11,039 --> 00:12:13,000 and hopefully it doesn't last long with that guy, and 296 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,200 lo and behold here I am. But yeah, so shouts 297 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,639 out to Curtly. But yeah, three kids later. But yeah, 298 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,480 that was the last time I remember. But yeah, this 299 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,080 is just it's such a great simplistic movie. It is 300 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,440 these men get sent on a mission in the jungle 301 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,080 and things are not what they appear. It's it's not 302 00:12:28,159 --> 00:12:30,240 exactly like this, but it's the same way simplistic, like 303 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,480 Jaws is. You know, you have these characters, this is 304 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,120 a shark. It's them versus you know, an active nature 305 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,799 in a sense as far as like an animal, right, 306 00:12:37,039 --> 00:12:39,759 same thing. This is obviously different than active nature because 307 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:41,639 it's from you know, a sci fi whatever world. But 308 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:43,879 what I like about is the pacing where it's just 309 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,960 for a while, an army movie. It's just these guys 310 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,000 on a mission. Even then there's some dramatic stuff going 311 00:12:49,039 --> 00:12:51,159 on there as far as you know, deal lying to 312 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,559 them and stuff. So even that stuff is interesting, Like okay, 313 00:12:53,759 --> 00:12:56,240 you got some jacked up dudes do some violent stuff 314 00:12:56,279 --> 00:12:58,120 and they don't think they should actually be here, Like 315 00:12:58,159 --> 00:12:59,919 even Dutch says like, this is not what we do. 316 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,039 So there's some good tension there and then a fucking 317 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,279 alien just drops in and I think, like, it's not 318 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,960 a cop about him being you know, cloaking and invisible. 319 00:13:10,159 --> 00:13:13,120 It's definitely a budgetary thing, and that's a smart thing. 320 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,679 It's the same way why compare to The Jaws is the 321 00:13:15,799 --> 00:13:18,360 Shark was supposed to be all around that movie. This Shark, 322 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:19,679 I think it was like week two or three, like 323 00:13:19,759 --> 00:13:21,960 broke down and they had to rework that movie so 324 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,840 you could barely see the Shark, right, And I think 325 00:13:23,879 --> 00:13:26,399 that works better now. And I think that's almost It's 326 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:28,000 a tough thing because I think this is I won't 327 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,200 say this is a perfect movie, but it's a perfect 328 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,519 type of this type of genre action movie where you 329 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,720 can make sequels and expand the universe. And I know 330 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:37,840 that's what Taylor loves. You see the plants all that stuff, 331 00:13:37,919 --> 00:13:39,960 But at the same point, it's always hard to catch, 332 00:13:40,279 --> 00:13:42,799 like capture lightning in the bottle. And I like Predators. 333 00:13:42,799 --> 00:13:44,159 I think I like Predator two enough. That's the one 334 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,080 I've seen the least. I'm excited to watch that again. 335 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,480 But they can never match this because this was just 336 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,240 such like a great concept. It's like we were just 337 00:13:50,279 --> 00:13:52,879 a Jurassic Park right where, no matter what, you're never 338 00:13:52,879 --> 00:13:54,799 gonna match that first one because the idea is just 339 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,240 so good. These guys top of the elite, you know, 340 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,440 squad versus this alien killer, what's gonna happen? And then 341 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,360 from that it was always bigger, bigger, Oh the preditors 342 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,159 in the citter. Oh, we're at this planet and there's 343 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,360 some fun ideas there. But this is just the perfect concept. 344 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,799 That's why I did the theme in the beginning. I 345 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,399 fucking love the music in this movie. Alen Silvestri, who 346 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,480 if you don't know, he did the Avengers theme and 347 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:15,879 you know, porls and all that stuff, like this is 348 00:14:15,919 --> 00:14:17,679 how he's started to build his career and just that 349 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,080 it's like the Striker's menu where they play that theme over. 350 00:14:21,799 --> 00:14:24,399 No no, no, no, no no no. But it's just like 351 00:14:24,679 --> 00:14:26,519 it's so fucking good because you just feel like you're 352 00:14:26,559 --> 00:14:29,480 banned down the hatches with these guys. Now, that's the thing. 353 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,720 This is a complete dude bro movie, not evenly what 354 00:14:31,799 --> 00:14:34,559 we talk about the beginning with like dropping like profanities 355 00:14:34,559 --> 00:14:37,120 and slurs, but just like the whole vibe of jacked 356 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,759 up dudes nose to nose arguing guns. Like the very 357 00:14:40,759 --> 00:14:43,000 first Sea when the predator appears and they just light 358 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,000 up the force and waste like hundreds of AMMO. You're like, man, 359 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,600 this is the most dude bro thing in the world. 360 00:14:47,679 --> 00:14:49,799 Speaker 4: Laughing out loud in that scene, I could not believe that. 361 00:14:49,799 --> 00:14:51,679 I'm like, we got in the war zone. 362 00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: Just oh, next war zone. Every time we see one person, 363 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,759 just light them up. But then we're just left with 364 00:14:57,759 --> 00:15:00,559 our pistols and like bone arrows and stuff. But and 365 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,159 that's what I love where and it's not your foulkering 366 00:15:03,159 --> 00:15:04,559 because you haven't seen well, but that's what I love. 367 00:15:04,559 --> 00:15:05,919 Where people have been like, oh, well, how are we 368 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,759 gonna do prey Like they're going back in time. But 369 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:11,200 it's like how they how Dutch beats the predators has 370 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,919 nothing due technology, it's smart sin, it's the environment. So 371 00:15:13,919 --> 00:15:16,639 that's why I'm prey. When they're looking around in those trailers, 372 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:18,799 there's fucking mud everywhere. These people are gonna be wearing 373 00:15:18,879 --> 00:15:21,159 might one hundred percent to take down this predator. But 374 00:15:21,279 --> 00:15:23,840 like with this that's why I love that he's systematically 375 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,919 taking apart of the team one by one. You learn 376 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,519 a little bit more details about the predator each time. 377 00:15:28,759 --> 00:15:30,600 But what I love is it's kind of that Michael 378 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:32,799 Myers esque like in the beginning of it's just a 379 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,159 force of nature coming at you and they give you 380 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,679 just enough. Even then, like seeing stuff like his wrist 381 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,120 clock and it's showing his different language. You don't have 382 00:15:40,159 --> 00:15:42,240 to explain like, oh, he comes from this race and 383 00:15:42,279 --> 00:15:44,360 this is why he's hunting. You got the idea of 384 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:47,919 what's happening here. It's simplistic. It's great. Everyone's here to play. 385 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,919 Everyone knows what type of movie they're in because they're 386 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,720 just like being badasses. And Arnold, Yeah, I'm always like 387 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:56,000 I never ever when peop always talk about Sly versus Arnie, 388 00:15:56,519 --> 00:15:59,080 Arnie one hundred percent. I like Sylvester Stolen love. But 389 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,240 if you're asking me what action movie, if I was 390 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,960 making an action movie and this is the prime and 391 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,399 I can only take one one hundred percent of Arnold, 392 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:06,919 and I don't even care. Sylvester stole it might even 393 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,440 be a better actor than Arnold. He just he just 394 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,440 brings in this era. He just brings something that I 395 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,960 don't care. Vin Diesel, the raw, Chris Hensworth, Chris Pratt, 396 00:16:16,159 --> 00:16:18,879 like no one can capture what Arnold had in this 397 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,840 era of just like that bad aster. But the thing 398 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,399 I love about is when he becomes like emotional or caring, 399 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:26,240 you kind of buy in into it right away, like 400 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,279 Arnold could switch. He's just a great lead in this, 401 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,840 So it's great all around. I don't think it's like 402 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,600 a ten out of ten movie, and I don't think 403 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,440 it's like in my top fifty movies. But if I 404 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,799 were to make a list of the most important movies 405 00:16:36,879 --> 00:16:38,759 or like the best action movies of all time, it 406 00:16:38,759 --> 00:16:40,879 would be in there. It's one of those classic It's 407 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:43,159 just like every time I watch it, I'm reminded, man, 408 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,799 this is a great movie. And uh yeah, so wherever 409 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,879 we want to go now, let's go to it. You know, 410 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,919 I should say our first sad break, and then we'll 411 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,200 start breaking this down big times. We'll be right back 412 00:16:53,559 --> 00:16:55,559 and we're back. We're back in the Japa. And think 413 00:16:55,559 --> 00:16:57,720 about that. Just even those lines, all these lines, and 414 00:16:57,759 --> 00:17:00,200 give the lead to kill it the fucking mem you 415 00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:02,440 son of a bitch in the arms. Like this movie 416 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,720 has like lived done for generations through memes and like 417 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:07,160 quotes and stuff. So mm hm. 418 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: So I was telling Shane when I was trying to 419 00:17:08,759 --> 00:17:10,519 convince her to watch it me, it's just like Shaye, 420 00:17:10,519 --> 00:17:12,839 if anybody's seen it for oh. 421 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,039 Speaker 2: Definitely not. No, definitely not. 422 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 3: And she's just shipping all over it. 423 00:17:16,279 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, she does that. It's like this is 424 00:17:18,039 --> 00:17:19,839 for podcast. Ah, it's gonna be a bad movie, you know. 425 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,640 She she's been like just absolutely haunted by those like 426 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,079 early Patreon requests of just god that's fair. 427 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 2: I forced her to watch, but I. 428 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:28,039 Speaker 1: Had to expend that day night too. I'm like, you know, 429 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,039 like the muscle Guy Gift, like it's this movie and 430 00:17:31,079 --> 00:17:33,160 stuff like that, and we didn't watch because I don't 431 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:34,839 I think the same thing. She didn't much interest, but 432 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:36,359 she had to go somewhere. But I was like, it's 433 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,359 it's this, like I made her watch that, and she's like, oh, yeah, 434 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,359 you're right, that's it and everything, and we moved on. 435 00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't even know where I was leaning 436 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,920 with that. I forgot my first point. 437 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: I had a PowerNet before this, so I'm a little 438 00:17:49,279 --> 00:17:51,640 waking up still I got some cool meats if you 439 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,960 want to beat me up. 440 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: So beat me up, Taylor. 441 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: One of my favorite things is it just comes full circle. 442 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,480 Now when you look at the predator Predator, this is 443 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,920 like a fun fact. The Predator originally look very different. 444 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,440 I'm gonna drop this deed. So if you're hopefully you're 445 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,440 watching video here, this is the original preder look. 446 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,759 Speaker 1: Oh my god, So wait, did they shoot this? 447 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, they actually did, and then at some point 448 00:18:12,599 --> 00:18:14,960 they changed the preader look to what you know, now, yeah, 449 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,240 that's the initial look. I'm glad they did too. And 450 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,920 they've had like callbacks, Like in Predators, there was like 451 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,400 an alien that looks similar to that, but another like 452 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,640 a funky thing. They put it a toy line with 453 00:18:25,799 --> 00:18:28,559 Predator and this is like the Armory's wearing and it's 454 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,960 kind of like tribute to that initial concept that was developed. 455 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,799 Speaker 1: I feel like that toy has to go for a lot, right, 456 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:35,359 because it's one of those cool like. 457 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 3: Oh, I got it on my shelf too, thirty four dollars. 458 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you, oh, I see interesting they did 459 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,400 make I thought you were saying that they made a 460 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,680 toy back in the day of the original one. No, 461 00:18:46,839 --> 00:18:50,599 that a lot that would have sold like hotcakes and stuff. Yeah, no, 462 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,160 I heard. I actually I was reading some triviun and 463 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,680 I heard that they got rid of that predator because 464 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,680 he went to Hawaii and he was throwing some chairs 465 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,559 around and they had to reshoot the whole movie and 466 00:18:57,559 --> 00:19:00,079 stuff like that. So yeah, no, and actually, you know, oh, 467 00:19:00,079 --> 00:19:02,039 that's my bad because we've been so busy. I will 468 00:19:02,079 --> 00:19:03,880 try it for Prey or too. I'll have some trivia 469 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,000 for Prayer one and Prayer two. I completely forgot just 470 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,160 because we've just been cranking out the content. But that 471 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,599 that I definitely better look. And I think like the 472 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,279 with that look the original one, was he supposed to 473 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,599 take off a helmet too and reveal some or was 474 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,599 that just his final. 475 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,839 Speaker 3: No, I think that's actually his full form, like just 476 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,000 an alien species or whatever. 477 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: And I think that's the best thing because the movie 478 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,240 we talked about like how it slowly reveals the mystery, 479 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:28,000 but how it slowly reveals the prayer are like, Okay, 480 00:19:28,079 --> 00:19:29,759 you see nothing, people are just gonna killed, and then 481 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:32,759 you see like the waveness of the fucking Like I 482 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,680 man watching this for the first Ti'm having no idea 483 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,799 because when I saw it even on the Sci Fi network, 484 00:19:36,839 --> 00:19:38,680 I knew of Predator. I knew, okay, what the prayer 485 00:19:38,759 --> 00:19:40,680 looks like. I have an idea of it. Never seen 486 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,920 the movie, let's check it out people that and I 487 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,400 would have loved I should watch the trailers. But I 488 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,559 imagine there's so many people that had no idea, like 489 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,119 obviously when it first came out, what they're expecting. So 490 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,319 this idea of like you see nothing, then you just 491 00:19:52,319 --> 00:19:54,400 see this waveness and then you see this fucking like 492 00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:57,680 tanky thing with a can on its gun on shoulder, 493 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,559 this big ass one, and you probably think that's the 494 00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:02,519 final and that's like scary and badass enough, right, and 495 00:20:02,559 --> 00:20:04,599 then you fucking get like the mask coming off and 496 00:20:04,599 --> 00:20:06,839 you ugly, son of a bitch. But like it just 497 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,640 the way it escalates to, oh, it's just something in 498 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,279 the woods. To man, it's just fucking months like Alien Monster. 499 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,359 It's such like a good and it's paced so well. 500 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,920 I feel like it's almost like every it's like I 501 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,319 think the movie's how long was it was like an 502 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,720 hour forty nine hours? 503 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:23,079 Speaker 2: Healthy? 504 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 4: I think it was like an hour thirty Honestly, it 505 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,839 was a oh, I'm over selling it over lengthy. 506 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: Movie, yes, but what I so? Then I don't even 507 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,960 know the exact increments of when they do the pacing 508 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,359 and revealing these things, but I feel like it's fantastic. 509 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,680 It feels like what do we got here? It is, 510 00:20:39,599 --> 00:20:41,559 Oh my god, it gives me the whole franchise. I 511 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,640 just want the runt time the fucking movie one hundred 512 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,119 and seven minutes, so it's almost two hours. So it's 513 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,400 so that's where it feels like every fifteen to twenty 514 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,039 minutes you get a little bit more and a little 515 00:20:52,039 --> 00:20:53,839 bit more, and never too much, you know. And even 516 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,359 then once you get of course you can tell like 517 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,920 pros Tec stuff, but once you get the Predator at 518 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,240 the end, he looks great. Even this far along, it 519 00:21:01,279 --> 00:21:03,279 does not look dated, It does not look cheesy. It's 520 00:21:03,319 --> 00:21:06,599 just like the Jurassic Park thing where man, again, I 521 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,480 get it. While lots of people do stuff, but some 522 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:10,599 practical stuff you just can't beat. And I get with 523 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,039 CGI because there's ways that the preyder moves in this 524 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,839 that you can't do in real life. That's where CGI 525 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,759 does help and everything like that. I will ask you 526 00:21:17,799 --> 00:21:19,279 fun in fact, do you know who played the predator 527 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:20,640 in this movie. 528 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 3: Oh god, I couldn't remember. 529 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: For the Life Action movie Legend, John Claudevad. Damn he 530 00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:31,319 was sane. Yeah yeah, yeah, so that that was his 531 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,000 one of his things going on. But uh but yeah, no, 532 00:21:35,079 --> 00:21:36,680 I love the pacing of the reveal Predder, and I 533 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,400 love everything they do with the Predder. Just to write 534 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,359 amount everything. 535 00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:43,079 Speaker 4: It's so funny because, you know, finishing it. I've watched 536 00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:45,599 this movie in two increments, but like, as you mentioned 537 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,440 the pacing, I think it's just a very easy movie 538 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,480 to just like sit down and watch in one sitting, 539 00:21:50,519 --> 00:21:52,880 you know. Just my schedule was busy, so I had 540 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,480 to break it off in two parts. But so I 541 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,640 was finishing it off today and Shay was there, of course, 542 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,799 and then when it goes like the helmet reveal, I'm like, 543 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,160 twoty things behind them ask and it was so funny, 544 00:22:01,519 --> 00:22:04,079 Like Shay's zero experience with whatsoever. 545 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: She's like, it's. 546 00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: Gonna be him. 547 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I was totally feeding it on her. 548 00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:12,079 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, no, it's gonna be It's gonna be him. 549 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: And then when it. 550 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,079 Speaker 4: Pulls off and like it's an actual alien like her 551 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,920 reaction was just like whoa, Like what is that thing? 552 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,960 And like I'm almost envious of like that first reveal, 553 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:23,599 right because I've just known of the Predators for so long, 554 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,960 Like their face is so iconic. I know what it 555 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,240 looks like. So but like from her, like she's probably 556 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:31,279 seen it before but never really put two and two together. 557 00:22:31,319 --> 00:22:33,920 So to just like see that first reveal, like actually 558 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,279 genuinely the first reveal from a movie in the eighties, 559 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,480 I'm a little envious that she she got that moment. 560 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:40,559 But no, it was funny. I'm like, yeah, it's gonna 561 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:44,000 be Arnold. He's just hunting himself down. 562 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: Oh, that would have been a great from the future, 563 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:46,000 you know. 564 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,799 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna counter your Jean Claude van Damn thing. 565 00:22:50,839 --> 00:22:53,519 He was actually fired from the Predator. He was, he 566 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,279 still listened in the chairs. He was he actually was 567 00:22:56,279 --> 00:22:59,119 in this suit. I believe he played that version. And 568 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,480 then yeah, Kevin Peter Hall played the actual Okay. 569 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: But just to confirm, was he fired or did he 570 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,240 just play the Predator. 571 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: Actor Bill Duke backs up the claims that Jean Claude 572 00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:12,599 Van dam was fired from Predator due to the actor 573 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,720 experiencing dehydration during production. 574 00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:20,039 Speaker 1: What fucking assholes, you're thirsty to get off the set 575 00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:23,759 fired because he's in a jungle in this fucking sweaty 576 00:23:23,799 --> 00:23:26,039 ass soon and he's like, I really like some water, 577 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,599 and they're like, fuck off, John Clad Damn, you know 578 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:29,559 it doesn't need water. 579 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: Kevin Peter Hall, he doesn't. 580 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,519 Speaker 1: Okay, Well there you go. I always thought he played 581 00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:37,880 the original one. I guess technically did play the original one. 582 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,839 But that's man, I'm so glad some things have changed. 583 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,680 That's that's a shitty way to fire something for dehydration, 584 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,839 But like that's the time. Is the time where people 585 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,680 are doing fucking cocaine on set. It's the rocks life 586 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,039 and everything like that, And that's what this movie feels like. 587 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:53,279 Like just that gun say we talked about, but you 588 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,000 got Carl. 589 00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:57,559 Speaker 2: Weathers being like Kevin Peter Hall my favorite predator, oh 590 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,759 so much better than junk. 591 00:24:00,559 --> 00:24:05,279 Speaker 1: He's the best predator in the galaxy. The Predator. Yeah 592 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,119 shuts out to Carl Wather's Amanda and stuff, and yeah, 593 00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:11,079 you know, where do you want to go next? 594 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,079 Speaker 3: Ah? I guess like maybe just the build up. So 595 00:24:17,079 --> 00:24:20,480 like obviously the team was sent in and used his killers. 596 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,079 They thought they were going into rescue, but obviously Carl 597 00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:26,160 Weathers totally fucked him over, and they went in there 598 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,759 and they had to get across the boarder to call 599 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:29,799 in the chopper and all that jazz, and that's when 600 00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:32,319 things start to pick up, Like you get to finally 601 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,039 understand the concept. Through Arnold Scharzneker's I was like, Okay, 602 00:24:36,079 --> 00:24:38,720 if you are fighting and killing someone you got like 603 00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:40,519 a weapon on you, then this thing will target you. 604 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:42,079 And I like how even at the point where the 605 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,319 woman goes to grab the gun, he like just fucking 606 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,160 boots it out of her hands because he's starting to 607 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,720 realize how this thing operates. 608 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,839 Speaker 1: I forgot about how that was the thing at first 609 00:24:51,839 --> 00:24:53,839 when I watched that, include in like after butt first, 610 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,400 like where the fuck do you keep that gun out 611 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,000 of her hand? You know, like she's just trying to 612 00:24:57,039 --> 00:24:57,799 defend herself. 613 00:24:57,839 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's between that and then her like the 614 00:25:01,079 --> 00:25:03,599 blood being found, and so the blood is super cool. 615 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,799 Speaker 1: I love that, but then. 616 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 3: So many other little things, the heat vision and when 617 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,880 she starts talking about how the summers like get really 618 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,319 really hot, like and in the past when it would 619 00:25:15,319 --> 00:25:18,839 be really really hot summer, it's like their so the 620 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,880 men from their village, her village would go out and 621 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,279 they would find them hanging from trees and the same thing, 622 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,480 like horribly massacred. And then she's just eluding again like 623 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,160 this summer it's very, very hot, just like these cool 624 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,920 little things they put in the back of your mind 625 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,240 that just build up the intensity of what's going on. 626 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,720 And yeah, I love that so much. 627 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 4: One hundred percent, Like all the I don't know, the 628 00:25:39,759 --> 00:25:43,599 little like hints that shit is not just that there's 629 00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:45,599 not just other humans hunting us down in here, and 630 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:47,599 I feel like any moment they kind of start to 631 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,880 realize that, like it's just the intensity meter just goes 632 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,319 up like a little dial. And I think it was like, 633 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,319 again just to credit the Pacine, like I think that 634 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,079 was done really well where it didn't feel like it 635 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,799 were dragging a long time, Like it just felt like 636 00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:00,640 a like I was, I was in like a like 637 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,000 a sauna that was just slowly getting hotter and hotter, 638 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,519 you know, and then like by the end, it's just 639 00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:07,079 the Prator's absolutely fucking everybody up. And I mean, like 640 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,319 that Billy character when he's just like what's going on Billy, 641 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,799 He's like, I'm terrified. 642 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,559 Speaker 2: It's just like, you're not scared of no man. He's like, bullshit, you. 643 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,319 Speaker 1: Ain't afraid of no man. 644 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that man's like terrified as he says, oh man, yeah, 645 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,960 like all of those little things. 646 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 4: It was really really good for me, and I was 647 00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:25,200 I was just smiling. That was it was so epic 648 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:25,880 and so intense. 649 00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:28,559 Speaker 3: Billy turns around and looks at him and says, we're 650 00:26:28,599 --> 00:26:30,319 all gonna die. 651 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,279 Speaker 1: He said to Billy, Billy, it's I don't know if 652 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:36,119 they're trying to touch it with him being like more 653 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,599 spear of trying like that. Because I think so, and 654 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,720 I think that's gonna fit to pray and stuff like that, 655 00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:42,519 because he's the one that senses it right away. And 656 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:44,960 I love that shot because we know at this point 657 00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:46,839 what's happening in the movie. But the way you can 658 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,359 kind of look at it is when he's just looking 659 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,759 at the trees, you can just look at it just 660 00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:52,160 like this guy's like he's just fucking losing it. Like 661 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:54,440 they've been through this like little battle. He just might 662 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,480 be hot, but like there's something up there and he 663 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,359 can't exactly see where it is, but he knows that 664 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,079 there's something off with the t or the bushes, and 665 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,079 Dutch doesn't really see it, but he believes Billy at 666 00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:06,839 the same point because I also love that we saw 667 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:09,400 those people strip their skins and like, again, you guys 668 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,880 are talking about the little layering and car weathers is 669 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,000 like no human being could do that. Now you could 670 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,680 just say, Okay, maybe there's some animal that did that, 671 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,519 et cetera. But they're there again. They're trying to hit 672 00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:19,480 you with Okay, it's nothing of this earth mate that 673 00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:21,559 did that. And then when the first time they see 674 00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:25,200 like Hawkins's body and it's just like completely destroyed and stuff, 675 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,759 that's when it really sets him. Okay, this is one 676 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:28,799 of our guys. And it's also that he was just 677 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,559 taking away like like thirty seconds ago, so like it's 678 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:35,039 not like an animal that we could have found and everything. 679 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,599 So that's what's great. In that middle portion where they 680 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,640 start to realize that the presder's out there and just 681 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,559 the little hints Okay, something's something is amiss and something's 682 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,240 really really wrong here, and even when they figure out 683 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,720 like oh, the preyer wants to take them out one 684 00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:49,920 by one by one and not just this whole group thing, 685 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,680 Like it's just great because they that's why it makes sense. 686 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,720 They set these guys up. They do this as a job. 687 00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:56,680 You know, this is their life and this is the 688 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,160 ultimate preyyer, ultimate hunter, and yeah, some good stuff in 689 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,920 the middle of that kind of revealing portion. 690 00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 4: And like any moment that they that one member on 691 00:28:05,039 --> 00:28:07,160 the team like sees the predator, Like I think they 692 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,680 do a good job at like like this is how 693 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,920 you would react, like you don't even know what you 694 00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:14,920 just saw, like something is rippling the effects and then 695 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,680 you just saw these yellow eyes that like appeared and 696 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,279 then it's just like, am I actually just tripping here 697 00:28:18,279 --> 00:28:20,960 like my dehydrate like John Clune Van dam Ice water 698 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,039 and I'm actually like just hallucinating or did that actually happen? 699 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,279 And they play like along that so well, where like 700 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,039 I think it's uh, I guess Billy who's like having 701 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:33,119 the first like just inklean that there might be something 702 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,680 out there and they're all like, okay, whatever, And then 703 00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:37,920 you have Dylan just constantly like no, there's just there's 704 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,000 three guys max out there, like we just take out 705 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,799 He drops the line so many times, but then you 706 00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:45,680 know it goes to I mean mac he goes on 707 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,559 a whole other insane route once he starts snipping out 708 00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:51,119 and seeing the predator. But like whenever any member like 709 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,200 sees it, it's just like like what, Like how did that? 710 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,079 I like, what actually is that? And I think it's 711 00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:58,559 so believable even for a viewer like watching this in 712 00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:01,200 twenty twenty two. This movie came out in nineteen eighty seven. Like, 713 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,400 I still think the usage of the CGI again, I 714 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,799 feel like that might be the most easy thing to 715 00:29:06,839 --> 00:29:08,400 like pick apart be like oh my god, CG in 716 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,799 the eighties. But like, honestly, it was minimal enough that 717 00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:13,440 it worked. It really worked for this movie. And the 718 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,559 fact that it was just like a jungle ripple, like 719 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,039 was so much better than I don't know, He's in 720 00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:20,319 like Times Square in New York and we're seeing like 721 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,039 this happening. 722 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: So it worked really well in the Jungle. 723 00:29:23,759 --> 00:29:26,359 Speaker 4: I know, I really don't remember that one either, so 724 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,559 I'm excited to watch it for sure. 725 00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: Well, I think it just lends to it because it's 726 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,119 just you what they have the prayer or doing this movie. 727 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,200 That's where Yeah, the benefit of CGI stuff like that 728 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,960 in the eighties, you couldn't have him be doing all 729 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,200 this jumping from trees, all these moves and everything like 730 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,599 that for the whole movie. But that's why they save 731 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,720 it for a little bit in the middle when they 732 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:45,720 show the reveal, but mostly for the end, and that's 733 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:47,680 why it works. And it also works too because at 734 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,319 the end he's not being super high techie. He takes 735 00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:53,920 off his gear because he just wants like monoy mono Arnold. 736 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,319 So that was very smart Weather. Like. The good thing 737 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,440 is it makes sense story wise why he would do that, 738 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,559 because he's a hunter and it's like Dutches, the last one. 739 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,279 He's the cream of the crop. I want to really 740 00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:04,640 take him out. But then it just makes sense practical wise, 741 00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:06,519 like okay, and this scene, we're gonna have the Preadtor 742 00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:09,119 moving around lots, let's take his gear off so he 743 00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:10,720 can kind of move around awkward and. 744 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,519 Speaker 3: Rips naked comes out and. 745 00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:16,119 Speaker 1: He's like, you take yours off? Touch And the only 746 00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:18,359 the only thing that I will say is like, and 747 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,599 that whole scene that finale is fantastic, Like I love 748 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,000 the bill up and they keep going back and forth, 749 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,200 they're showing the preador getting ready, he's checking his gear 750 00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:28,119 they're showing Arnold. He's like taking a fucking tree branch 751 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,079 and like bending it to be a bow and arrow. 752 00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:31,480 Like he's just like fucking. 753 00:30:31,319 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: Oh man that over shoulders. 754 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,279 Speaker 2: Oh yeah for a second, like a man flex here. 755 00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:39,839 He's like it just looks like he was, you know, 756 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,559 he's doing that exercise. 757 00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: Like the manly thing you can think of. He's getting 758 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,759 the mudy, he's getting the fire. He's just like. 759 00:30:46,839 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: That predator shot to the shoulder too, so he took 760 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,039 like a laser beat to the shoulder. 761 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,039 Speaker 2: Just brush it off. He's just like muscling. 762 00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:55,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolute like pinnacle of manly man right there. 763 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like and he's just yelling in the woods, like 764 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,960 I want to take this. I want to take Dutch 765 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:01,720 in this moment and put him at the ending of 766 00:31:01,759 --> 00:31:03,960 Northman and see how he does. You know, because like 767 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,319 he's ready to get down the mud with the cock 768 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,720 flap and everything. Ar Al did it in our interminaiory. 769 00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:10,599 You could see his big old flapping cock around. But 770 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:14,160 I love everything, the whole build up, the fight. I 771 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,160 love that he thinks that he has the predator dead 772 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,240 to right, so that trap and he doesn't, but then 773 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,039 he turns it on that actually he was like it 774 00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:21,640 was a trap within a trap that he knew the 775 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,559 predator would figure it, like it just keeps you guys, 776 00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:25,759 because I forgot about that when that happened. I actually 777 00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:28,799 forgot that the predator. I thought he just figured it out, 778 00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:30,480 and I knew Arnold was gonna get out of it. 779 00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:33,039 But I forgot that No, Arnold thought he would figure 780 00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:35,319 it out, so he wanted to Like. 781 00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:37,079 Speaker 3: I didn't take it. I didn't take it like he 782 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:38,640 thought he figured that. I thought it was just like 783 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,880 a counterweight to uh, initial trap. Yeah, I like to 784 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,559 spring the spikes up because like pin him. 785 00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: Yeah maybe I guess just because when he turns and 786 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,279 looks at the preddor he has like almost like a smile, 787 00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:54,240 like I got you, motherfuckers. So maybe it was by chance. 788 00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:56,079 I always took it as like, yeah, he want him 789 00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:58,480 to come forward, but he kind of did two traps 790 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,680 of like hey, he could come this way, but he 791 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,000 perfectly planned like if the preader comes around, I fucking 792 00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:05,880 got you too, and I love that hole back and forth. 793 00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:07,839 The only thing I've always said, because I thought this 794 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,000 was fake the very first time I saw it on YouTube. 795 00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:11,759 I think we've talked about on geek. First, the only 796 00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:13,519 thing I'd take out and the movies have as well 797 00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,000 as far as the sequels, is the fucking laugh at 798 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,119 the end. It makes no sense, Like I don't know 799 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,119 why they if that was a studio note or someone 800 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,279 was just like we need something here, not the fact 801 00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:25,240 that it's just like a laugh like a human when 802 00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:29,759 Arnold's running away, it's so loud and echoing. It's just 803 00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:30,160 like it. 804 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, Palpatine. 805 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,759 Speaker 1: Basically it takes me out every time because I'm laughing. 806 00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:36,160 Good thing. The movie is so great and it doesn't 807 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,400 even really take points off anything. It's just like, man, 808 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,799 this was that's the only most like eighties choice. I 809 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,640 feel like this feels really dated. This feels like you guys, Yeah, 810 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,920 I don't really, I don't understand the choice. But it's 811 00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:47,759 just so funny. 812 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,319 Speaker 2: Oh it's it's hilarious. 813 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,119 Speaker 4: I remember even like we did a podcast couple of 814 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,559 years ago and I think you like brought that up 815 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,759 and then you like brought up the video clip and 816 00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:58,000 I just couldn't believe it, like this is a memory 817 00:32:58,039 --> 00:33:00,480 that was completely wiped from my archives. No, there's no 818 00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:02,200 way that happens, Like a Mandel effect, and then you 819 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,880 showed it to me. It's like, I can't believe that's real. 820 00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:07,359 And then watching this, I was actually watching the subtitles too, 821 00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:10,519 as I always do. And then like it said, and 822 00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:12,799 like I wasn't sure if they were trying to show 823 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,920 like he's like mimicking them or something, because I think 824 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,839 he like repeats a line that says like word for word, 825 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,880 and then when he's laughing, it says Billy's laugh That's 826 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,039 what it said. Oh yeah, So I was like, okay, 827 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,880 is it just like some device that he has to 828 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,640 like kind of interface with them, because I mean, is 829 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,119 that better? 830 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: I don't even know, Like it's just weird. 831 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: It's just like I don't know if that was needed 832 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,400 for him to laugh, but it okay. 833 00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it explains a little bit. But like he was 834 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,559 genuinely like like I fucking got you, bastard, run for 835 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,079 me now. 836 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:48,759 Speaker 4: Like it was just like a really like mustachetorly villain 837 00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:51,039 moment of like you think you beat me, well I'm 838 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:52,799 gonna explode right, you know. 839 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,599 Speaker 1: And as a massive moment, Arnold still survived, you know. 840 00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 4: Like probably just like used his fucking biceps to just 841 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,480 shield from the blast oh yeah, high behind it. 842 00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:04,079 Speaker 1: It just just brushes off like Luke Skywalker and last 843 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,480 year like that was nothing. I'm ready for the ready 844 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,720 for another predator and stuff. 845 00:34:07,759 --> 00:34:10,199 Speaker 4: But I will agree with you, like everything leading up 846 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,480 until that point was it was so good and it 847 00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:17,199 was it was it was like an extended fight sequence 848 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,920 of like when he when Dutch was was first with 849 00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:23,320 his crew when the predator was just absolutely destroying them, 850 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,960 and then he gets sort of away, falls down that 851 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,039 that waterfall and then it's like a bit of a 852 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:31,440 lull until until that water splashes because he's like resting 853 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,119 in the mud. It's like okay, I have a moment 854 00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:35,039 to breathe here, and then the water splashes just like no, 855 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:37,119 it's still on. And then you know when he gets 856 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:38,519 covered in mud, and then it kind of buys them 857 00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:42,360 some time to plan a strategy and to actually like 858 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,320 like trap this this predator, this hunter that's hunting him, 859 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:48,079 and uh, that entire like I don't even know how 860 00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:51,000 long that was. It was probably half an hour or 861 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:53,800 you know, something around that. And it was so good. 862 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,960 It was so like I was just totally in it, 863 00:34:57,079 --> 00:34:59,960 just grinning ear in the ear until the laugh the laugh. 864 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: Was and what I love is like this is like 865 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,800 a pet pee for me, is it's a finale and 866 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,760 it really feels like a good final fight, whether it's 867 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,559 a fight or just like the cat and Mouse game 868 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,519 I've talked about this when you get like a final 869 00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:12,559 hero versus villain in the fight's like a few minutes 870 00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:14,400 and just like man, there's so much like the whole 871 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,079 movie's building up to this, and the fact that this 872 00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:18,800 is the whole third act is pretty much just Arnold 873 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,639 versus the Predator or Dutch versus the Predator. It's great. 874 00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:24,000 It delivers. You get like different functions too, of like yeah, 875 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,599 he's just running away, He's trying to trap him to 876 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:28,239 the predator. Just like that moment Dutch is crawling away 877 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,119 and the knives just come like right before his neck. 878 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,039 Is really sure Dutch one because you want to go monogumno. 879 00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:34,960 But like if the predator want to kill him, Predator 880 00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:38,039 won this, like you know, he just got two carried away. 881 00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:39,920 But that moment where he just puts those knives and 882 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,960 like they're perfectly around his neck, You're like Jesus Christ 883 00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:45,599 and he just wants to fight and prove they stronger 884 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,679 and obviously didn't go that way, but it's just it's 885 00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:50,360 such a good climactic like final in battle and everything 886 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,199 like that, so. 887 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,559 Speaker 4: You might know this, dude, is it like a running 888 00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:55,559 thing for the predators that they like want to have 889 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,079 as much of a fair fight with like a strong individual, 890 00:35:59,159 --> 00:36:01,360 because I feel like the time they're like like they're 891 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,599 actually just hiding in the in the shrubs and camel 892 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,159 like waiting for their moment to strike. 893 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,639 Speaker 3: It's it's like perfect hunters, right, That's that's what they 894 00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:12,880 strive strive to be. So when you are, when you're 895 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,280 squared off against like a preader for the most part, 896 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,719 like they're gonna see if you're fighting, they're gonna go in. 897 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,159 They're gonna try and kill you. And like if you're 898 00:36:20,199 --> 00:36:22,519 good at being like evading them and you prove yourself 899 00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:24,639 like nd Schwarzenegger managed to do, then that's when you 900 00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:26,480 become like the cream of the crop. You become like 901 00:36:26,599 --> 00:36:29,440 the main trophy they want. That's their prize. So if 902 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,199 you yeah, like what Arnold did, like just in terms 903 00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:36,400 of evading and just really like fucking this guy over, 904 00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:38,800 like that's why Okay, like we're pulling the mask off 905 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,159 and we're gonna go at you like fists and fists 906 00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:43,880 because you're obviously like a very worthy thing. And that's 907 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,599 like for the Predator, that's one of the most honorable 908 00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:49,079 things they like to do, Like they'll they'll know when 909 00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,480 it's like a rival, so that's like an equal to them, 910 00:36:52,519 --> 00:36:55,800 Like Okay, put the guns down, plasma cast aside, helmet off, 911 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,320 and we're just gonna go at it. You you kind 912 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,679 of touched upon it and just to kind of reaiterrate 913 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,480 back on like when people were watching this and you're 914 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,360 trying to figure out what's going on. Just having like 915 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,280 the cloaked figure again like you mentioned, that's one good component, 916 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,760 but then having this cloaked figure start repeating the character's 917 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,840 phrases like you mentioned Kirkland when it's like Billy's laughter 918 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,760 and stuff like the Predtor's. 919 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: Just like anytime. 920 00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like what the fuck, Like, now, what are 921 00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:22,760 we dealing with here? 922 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,639 Speaker 4: First I thought Dylan was just tripping, like when you 923 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,400 heard Max's voice in that moment, but yeah, as it 924 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,599 makes sense, there is the Predator. 925 00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 2: It's like psych psychological war games, like totally just playing 926 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:32,719 with them. 927 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,679 Speaker 4: He's because that's where like I feel like I was 928 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,559 kind of surprised where I knew they were like the 929 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,559 perfect hunter, like obviously that's what the Predator and bodies, 930 00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:43,159 but like these psychological games, it kind of caught me 931 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,239 off guard, like I just wasn't expecting it. And it's 932 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,199 not a negative by any means. It's just I wasn't 933 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,719 expecting it, and it makes them that much scarier honestly, 934 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,360 because they can just fuck with your brain. It's like, oh, 935 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,199 this guy is this guy like he's losing his mind. 936 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,159 Let's drop some lines from his buddy. I just blew 937 00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:00,760 his fucking head off my shoulder cannon. 938 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, and on top of that his shoulder cannon. You know, 939 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,760 just like fuck, what else does this guy have? You know? 940 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,519 Speaker 3: You again mentioned it briefly, but that scene, it's probably 941 00:38:11,519 --> 00:38:13,480 my favorite scene in the whole movie. When aren't you 942 00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:15,880 think on Schwarzenegger just barely got away. He's in the 943 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,800 water and he's just crawling in the mud and just 944 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,159 the splash happens and just the this is one of 945 00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:24,480 my I like it because this just goes to show 946 00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:26,760 like how a movie can really just like blow you out, 947 00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:28,519 blow you out of the water, which just like how 948 00:38:28,519 --> 00:38:30,159 a scene is done with the score and just the 949 00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:33,880 acting and just the score. It kicks in and the drum, 950 00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:36,639 the dramatic moment just just like at an all time 951 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,760 high peak anxiety, Art Schorsznegger's crawling back in the mud 952 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,000 and then you just you're waiting for this fucking thing 953 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,320 to emerge from the water, and then you see the 954 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,320 dreadlocks kind of floating a little bit. Then it like 955 00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:48,400 like shakes its head. You're like, holy shit, night, we're 956 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,960 getting like a full on view of it here. And 957 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,360 that's where the excitement happens. And just it's slowly just 958 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,599 coming up onto the water or out of the water 959 00:38:55,639 --> 00:38:59,119 and looking around like it's just that moment will always 960 00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:01,960 just be seared in my mind, just how intense it is, 961 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,199 this thing just moving. 962 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,639 Speaker 1: And then see just chill. He's just chill too, And 963 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,519 because he's like looking everyone's dead. He's just like looking 964 00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:10,599 around just like fuck, there's no one near. Like he's 965 00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:13,199 just he's just like a normal not normal dude, but 966 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,519 just like he's not like in a mode where he's 967 00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:17,639 like right to fight. He's just walking just looking at 968 00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:19,239 the air and everything like that because he thinks he's 969 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,719 gone everything and then like he said to you that 970 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,679 you got the heartbeat of not Dutch. 971 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 3: But you know that was definitely a good, uh derailment, 972 00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,360 I guess kind of like and again it tells you 973 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,599 everything you need to know as well without being blatantly obvious, 974 00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:34,599 because yeah, he's just crawling through the mud and it's like, 975 00:39:34,599 --> 00:39:38,800 oh shit, yeah he uses heat to see us. I 976 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,599 mean we we actually kind of saw that before that 977 00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:42,480 he's using heat vision, but just. 978 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,519 Speaker 1: A first of Arnold really realizes. 979 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 3: That, right exactly. Yeah, and yeah, that just segues into 980 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,920 him just being a badst even again the reveal when 981 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,599 he's like he thinks he's in a good spot on 982 00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:56,119 his tree and he thinks he's just waiting for the predator, 983 00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:57,960 and then he's just like, here's the noise and he 984 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,199 looks and the preader is crawling down like right hind 985 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,519 him on the tree. It's just intense. Luckily, he swings 986 00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:07,960 and he just like stops moving and silent. 987 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,039 Speaker 4: Tarzan, that was something again, I guess I'm showing my 988 00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:14,679 limitations on my predator knowledge. I always just assume that 989 00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:16,960 the thermal vision was like through their helmets and then 990 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,400 they just had like probably better eyes than us, but 991 00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:21,960 like relatively normalized. But like when he takes off the 992 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,920 like the helmet, it's still thermal, but it's like a 993 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,519 different thermal. Like I feel like there's a lot more 994 00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:30,360 rings as opposed to Blue and I. I. Yeah, I 995 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,079 just I feel like I didn't realize that before this movie. 996 00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:35,360 It's just like, oh, like I feel like that's a 997 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,960 big counterplay. Is like if you can just use a suit. 998 00:40:39,199 --> 00:40:40,599 I guess in the eighties they didn't have those, but 999 00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:42,039 maybe in twenty twenty two, Like I feel like you 1000 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,280 just have a suit that hides your body temperature, and 1001 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,400 like they just won't ever see you, right because it's 1002 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:47,920 a weakness. 1003 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they obviously the price, they'll hear you 1004 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,440 and yeah stuff like that. I think they'll maybe be 1005 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,760 in an asshole though, finding but you could strategically find 1006 00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,800 a way to take them off. Yeah, just like on Yeah, 1007 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,360 you ugly, But. 1008 00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 2: Like it's it's weird. 1009 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,639 Speaker 3: Why because when you pull that helmet off and the predator, 1010 00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:08,119 it just goes from like blue and Red just a 1011 00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:12,440 straight red. Their whole world is completely heat, So it 1012 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,480 makes sense why they'd evolve to have this kind of 1013 00:41:14,519 --> 00:41:17,559 like heat based vision and then especially apply it to hunting. 1014 00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:20,840 But that's another component that I love, and they explore 1015 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,760 that down the world, which we'll get to in other movies, 1016 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,760 where they can just cycle through their different visions and 1017 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,920 they detect different forms of heat and different forms of 1018 00:41:28,199 --> 00:41:29,000 light as well. 1019 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,679 Speaker 1: Which is pretty cool. 1020 00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 4: Okay, I thought I thought it was something like that 1021 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,440 where they had different like vision things. Clearly it was 1022 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,119 introduced in a later film, but no, like the thermal vision, 1023 00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:40,079 like it's just so tied to the predators, Like it's 1024 00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:42,760 just such an iconic thing. They're little noise, They're a 1025 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,719 little like wickering thing. Yeah, oh man, I love it. 1026 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,239 And the shoulder cannon, Like I feel like the first 1027 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,719 time you like you see the shouldercan throughout the movie, 1028 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,039 like just absolutely decimated people. But like the first time 1029 00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:56,960 you see like the like the triangle like dots, like 1030 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,599 the triple dots on Mac like specifically, Like again, I'm 1031 00:42:00,639 --> 00:42:03,199 just trying to like imagine back in the eighties, like 1032 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,079 never even hearing about the predator, Like you haven't even 1033 00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:07,079 really seen it up until this point in the movie, 1034 00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:10,079 and you just see this like weird triple laser pointer 1035 00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:11,800 on this person. It's like, what even is that this 1036 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,119 whole fucking head just explodes Like that would be such 1037 00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:18,800 like a mind blowing moment, like, oh, that's insane. It's 1038 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,480 such a cool iconic like weapon too, And. 1039 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,760 Speaker 1: That's a good kind of duality of or you just 1040 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,440 plant like the predator itself, like you take those can 1041 00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:28,039 stuff away that it's like, Okay, it could just be 1042 00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,519 a monster in this case, an alien but in the woods, right, 1043 00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:32,400 And that's already scary enough that there's something not of 1044 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,880 this planet hunting these guys down. But then when it 1045 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,400 also has like army tech, like what the predator's guns 1046 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,360 are are the equivalent to what their guns are on 1047 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,679 this planet, right, Like that's their defense or that's their 1048 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,079 what they used to attack. So that's where it's too. 1049 00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:46,679 It's not only is it you know, we've already talked 1050 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,480 about this, but not only is this monster's it's like 1051 00:42:48,599 --> 00:42:51,159 trained monster. Like that's how I think even worse because 1052 00:42:51,159 --> 00:42:53,960 it's like saying that has like you know, probably faster, 1053 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,159 you know, can camouflage, stronger. Oh, but it's also like 1054 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,639 in an arm like it's a soldier of that planet, 1055 00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:01,599 you know. For the shoulder gun comes in because just 1056 00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:04,000 like again another thing on top of like you take 1057 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,760 that away. I'm sure the preder have enough time killing 1058 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,119 these people. You know, he's literally taking peel all the trees, 1059 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,039 pulling that skull and spine out and just dumping the 1060 00:43:12,079 --> 00:43:15,119 body around. So Ken is just like a big fuck 1061 00:43:15,199 --> 00:43:17,519 you to everybody of you know, if I wasn't gonna 1062 00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:20,480 get you, I just like snipe you. I can just 1063 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,360 be camouflushed and snipe you from anywhere and stuff. And yeah, 1064 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,800 all right, Peter Mac whole team. You know, I appreciate 1065 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,800 that Dylan did go in to try and buy them 1066 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,519 time because it was his felting Gotham there. So I 1067 00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:32,039 appreciate that he kind of manned up and was like, eah, 1068 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,480 I gotta go and like kind of be a like 1069 00:43:34,519 --> 00:43:36,960 I feel like Dylan. No one really like Dylan and 1070 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,920 Billy knew they weren't getting out of scenario. They were 1071 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,159 just trying their best to see. 1072 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 2: If Billy told everybody that everybody should just listen to y. 1073 00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:47,559 Speaker 3: Dylan went out like definitely like a boss because he 1074 00:43:47,599 --> 00:43:49,719 went in there, and that's again the score kicks in. 1075 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,599 His one arm gets blasted up and he's still shooting. 1076 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: Smg over, Yeah, still shooting. 1077 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, And this fucking preda comes in and just like 1078 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,719 hoists him up on his h his wrist gauntlet nuts 1079 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,559 on the note of the plasma caster when Arnod Swarzeneger 1080 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,079 just gets that first really good shot off on the 1081 00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:10,960 predator and takes out his cloaking when the prenator is 1082 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,960 like inspecting the heat source a little fire at the 1083 00:44:13,039 --> 00:44:16,320 end battle and the predator is just super fucking pissed 1084 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,400 and just just blind firing into the trees. 1085 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,599 Speaker 4: I love that, man, And like the visuals of that, 1086 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,159 and again like this is all practical effects in the eighties. 1087 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,239 Speaker 2: It's it's it. 1088 00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:27,039 Speaker 4: Looks so good because it was just pitch black and 1089 00:44:27,079 --> 00:44:28,960 it's just like a firework display going off and you 1090 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,159 just see like the smoke and then it zooms out 1091 00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:33,559 and it's just you see like the lights from the explosions. 1092 00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:36,159 It's like darkness and you just see the predator standing there. Man, 1093 00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:38,360 what a great image. Like I want to like get 1094 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,320 that wallpaper. It looked so gorgeous and like just tip 1095 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,880 my head, like nineteen eighty seven, like this looks so good. 1096 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,719 And again like all the jungle stuff, it looked really 1097 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,559 really really good. 1098 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 2: I was I was so impressed. I was so impressed, 1099 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:50,119 which is the. 1100 00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 4: Visuals and yeah, the explosions, the powrotechnics, all of like 1101 00:44:54,559 --> 00:44:57,199 the I don't know the logistics that went into it. 1102 00:44:57,199 --> 00:44:59,480 And budget for this was like fifteen million dollars. I 1103 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,639 feel like that's incredibly low. I know, it's in the eighties, 1104 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,559 you know, yeah, some inflation, Yeah, exactly, probably. 1105 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: It's probably like it's probably, but still it's probably realistic, 1106 00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:09,400 like a forty fifty million nowadays, but that's still lower 1107 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,239 tier budget with our like when we talk about Deadpool 1108 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,960 and Joker, those movies are made around that type of tier, 1109 00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:15,760 right and stuff. 1110 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,480 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a yeah, I think box office is 1111 00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:20,639 like ninety eight million, and I'm like, you know, like 1112 00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:23,000 going from fifteen million to ninety eight million, that's awesome, 1113 00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:24,719 but like it's just so it seems so. 1114 00:45:24,679 --> 00:45:26,760 Speaker 2: Small compared to like what numbers are nowadays. 1115 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but back then that was still like huge enough. 1116 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,760 And I think this is one on cable and DVD 1117 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,719 or I guess sorry, fuck VHS cells probably at least 1118 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,760 did well noth and plus this is like still I 1119 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,480 have to look but this is like still the like 1120 00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:42,239 ascent of Arnold, you know, like I feel like he's 1121 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,000 like building up or did termin it, but he's not 1122 00:45:44,039 --> 00:45:45,480 the main star. Turning that was just like, oh he's 1123 00:45:45,519 --> 00:45:47,320 a scary dirt. He did Dutch and I'd have to 1124 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,519 look more IMDb. But I feel like it's not until 1125 00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:51,559 T two where it's like he's already a star, but 1126 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:53,800 that's when he's like the mega megastar, like this is 1127 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,760 the number one dude in Hollywood, you know, where this 1128 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,920 is still just him building up and everything like that. 1129 00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:00,519 Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess the totally call that was like 1130 00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:01,199 nineteen ninety. 1131 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,519 Speaker 1: Yeah there's another one. Yeah, but so yeah, like you said, 1132 00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:06,440 nineteen ninety, but that's another like huge one for him 1133 00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:09,239 right like on the way. So uh, that's take an 1134 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,079 ad break and we'll give any final things to shut 1135 00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:14,199 out and then a score so we'll be right back 1136 00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:18,599 and we're back. So I think I hit all my notes. 1137 00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:20,119 The only things I wanted to shut out were just 1138 00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:22,960 probably too I think I forgot I either forgot about 1139 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,440 the other comedy one or I show er any But 1140 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,639 I man, here's another thing of like, oh yeah, the 1141 00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,000 laugh was one, but here's all the only thing that's eighty. 1142 00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:31,800 It does not affect the movie at all because it's 1143 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,280 after the movie. But man, those end credits are just 1144 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,760 actor turns this camera smile and they give their name, 1145 00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:39,719 even the girl like and it's funny because most of 1146 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,639 them like acting kind of like a little bad aster. 1147 00:46:41,639 --> 00:46:42,880 You're like, okay, it's kind of character to me. When 1148 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,559 the check the girl, she's just like all smiles, like yeah, 1149 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,039 like I'm just like it's it's just so funny. But 1150 00:46:48,079 --> 00:46:50,079 then when it's a shot of Arnold, he's just serious 1151 00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:51,960 looking at that and I don't even think it's he's 1152 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,760 doing that with them. It's like a shot from the movie, 1153 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,400 you know. So it's like he's like I'm not even 1154 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,920 at that point, like I'm not doing that dumb shit. 1155 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 4: But it like pauses on him too, like everybody else, yes, 1156 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,599 like they're moving and then it's just like the star 1157 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,280 of the show, I have a nice look. 1158 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,119 Speaker 1: Yeah I was hal and at that I was like, 1159 00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:06,079 oh my god, like this is just it's so silly 1160 00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:07,519 and I love it because that's what you did back 1161 00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:09,679 then and it would not take any points down. But yeah, 1162 00:47:09,679 --> 00:47:11,320 that was my last thing that we hadn't talked about 1163 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,360 that I wanted to shout out. 1164 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,519 Speaker 4: Oh man and like that shot too of that same 1165 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,320 credit when they had the actor they did Billy and 1166 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,800 it's it's like serious and he does that like ferocious 1167 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,320 laugh and it's like the scene and who is it? 1168 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,800 Hawkins like goes and tells that joke about it. He's 1169 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,119 like he's like going down to his girlfriend and then 1170 00:47:29,199 --> 00:47:32,000 he like he says that, ye go joke. 1171 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 5: Pussy, Well, I have a big pussy, And Billy's just 1172 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,480 like so straight faced, like he's been this whole mission 1173 00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:40,760 and then he just like lets out this like ridiculous 1174 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,760 laugh and I guess it's what the predator stole and 1175 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,599 you know used. 1176 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 1: In the end. 1177 00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:46,639 Speaker 2: It's yeah, that was a weird scene. 1178 00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 4: But going off my notes, so, like I said, I 1179 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,800 mostly just wrote down things I had issues with, which 1180 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,119 was only four things. For me, I felt like the 1181 00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:00,000 character Mac was just so so all over the place 1182 00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:03,920 for me, Like initially, yeah, the fuckings. 1183 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,679 Speaker 1: Playing point, Yeah, oh my god, they're. 1184 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 4: Like about to like have a firefight possibly like like 1185 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,400 fingers on the trigger, ready to go, and he's just 1186 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,679 like shaving like up here too, like not even where 1187 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,920 like his his face would be like so high up. 1188 00:48:18,039 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 1: And then in case he dies, he wants to look 1189 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,760 good for that open cask at funeral, you know. 1190 00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 4: And again like maybe they're just trying to make it 1191 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,519 look like these guys are fucking weird, like they're commandos, 1192 00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:29,199 you know, like they're they're wackos. But yeah, when he 1193 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,199 was when he was doing that, and I think like 1194 00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:33,000 when they were first dropping lines like you just talk 1195 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:36,239 like very softly, and like I feel like every line 1196 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,039 that he was saying, they wanted to have. 1197 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 2: Like just just say a lot without saying a lot, 1198 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,480 if that makes any sense. And then when fuck, when 1199 00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:46,880 Jesse Ventura dies whatever that character's. 1200 00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 4: Name is, he just like he like snaps, I swear, 1201 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,519 like he goes through like a psychosis snap where he 1202 00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:55,920 is like because what follows him just taking the mini 1203 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,119 gun and just absolutely like cutting down the entire rainforest 1204 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,920 right then and there, and then uh like for the 1205 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,199 rest of the movie, Like he just felt so whacky 1206 00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:05,639 and crazy for me, and it just felt like such 1207 00:49:05,639 --> 00:49:06,000 a shift. 1208 00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:08,199 Speaker 1: And I like he was shot though, so that could 1209 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,159 explain it, right that he's in he's just like that's 1210 00:49:11,199 --> 00:49:13,079 how he's dealing with pain and stuff like that. 1211 00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I was trying to tell myself too, 1212 00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:17,400 like he's actually losing his mind, and that's like it's 1213 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,320 supposed to be a thing because he's just saw a ghost, 1214 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,280 like essentially right, like he just saw a ghost that's 1215 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,639 like bleeding green, like everything that he thought he knows 1216 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,960 is just out the window, and he's just freaking out, 1217 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,679 like he thinks he's gonna die. So I feel like 1218 00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:30,480 I was trying to tell myself that, but I think 1219 00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:32,960 the way that he was in the beginning of the 1220 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,000 film too, like when that snap happens, it was just 1221 00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:36,639 a little bit too kooky for me, and I was 1222 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,559 just really hard to take it seriously. 1223 00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 2: And then when he's shaving his face. 1224 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,079 Speaker 3: You want to be careful who you're stuck on, like 1225 00:49:44,159 --> 00:49:46,719 the bush with against an alien, because if you see 1226 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,760 like here, you see your guy he supposed to rely 1227 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:49,039 on and. 1228 00:49:49,079 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: He's going up, I'm ha me some fun. I'm having 1229 00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:53,039 some fun. He's just sonder at all. 1230 00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:55,559 Speaker 3: He's like, fuck, this guy is not all there right now. 1231 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, okay, let's just hope he gets out, 1232 00:49:58,039 --> 00:49:59,639 but let's focus. I get into the chop for just 1233 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,159 us and then you know, we'll we'll do a fly 1234 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,760 by if we see him, will grab him, but I 1235 00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:06,239 disclaimed I think he's a part of the woods. 1236 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: Now. 1237 00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 4: The other note that I just kind of had an 1238 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,559 issue with was and I feel like, I feel like, 1239 00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:16,000 I like the idea of this moment is when the 1240 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,480 predator like escapes that firefight essentially and then he goes 1241 00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:21,519 up on the tree and he just like patches himself up, 1242 00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:23,519 but he just pulls out like the most dollar store 1243 00:50:23,559 --> 00:50:25,840 looking first aid kit, and it's just like such like 1244 00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:28,079 I swear I saw like a Maiden China stamp on 1245 00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:29,719 his scissors that he grabbed it. Like it just seemed 1246 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,320 really weird, and I get it. It's like the eighties. 1247 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,519 They're just trying to like show that he can like 1248 00:50:33,639 --> 00:50:35,960 field dress himself or not field dress that's when you're 1249 00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:40,519 you're hunting, but like field first aid repair himself, you know, 1250 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,599 whatever that term is. And like I feel like I 1251 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,719 like that that process. But it was just so and 1252 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,679 again this is probably like the dating of it, Like 1253 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,639 in the eighties they just they thought this looked like 1254 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,360 high tech. 1255 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 2: Like first aid kit. 1256 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 4: It just seemed really weird, especially like I could see 1257 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,119 like the rubber fingers like handling this syringe and like 1258 00:50:57,159 --> 00:50:57,679 just squirret on. 1259 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,119 Speaker 2: It just looked weird. Kind of took me. 1260 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 1: I agree a little. It's a I don't know if 1261 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,199 they even need to show his like first aid kid, 1262 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,000 like I get that preparing, but yeah, it did not 1263 00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:08,719 look like all this high tech. 1264 00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 2: Here and this is what you got going on, let's see. 1265 00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:14,480 Uh oh yeah. 1266 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,159 Speaker 4: And then in that last fight, I mean I was, 1267 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,719 I was praising it, but there was one thing I'm 1268 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,559 gotta wrote down because I completely forgot about it. But 1269 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:21,960 when the predators just like beating the shit out of 1270 00:51:22,039 --> 00:51:24,280 Arnie and it's like through his thermal version, I just 1271 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,119 feel like parsonally I would have liked it if it 1272 00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:27,599 wasn't in the thermal vision, because it was just like 1273 00:51:27,639 --> 00:51:30,199 a lot of red and you just like and I'm like, 1274 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:30,960 is he winning? 1275 00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 2: Is he losing? 1276 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,679 Speaker 4: Like he's getting like it was kind of hard to 1277 00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,480 follow in that moment, But again it's kind of minor. 1278 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 2: Overall. 1279 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,639 Speaker 4: The fight for the most part was fantastic, but that 1280 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,920 was just something like, this is a little bit messy here. 1281 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,760 And then my fourth note was just the cackle at 1282 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,079 the end. 1283 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that. 1284 00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 4: But yeah, like my my first negative point didn't even 1285 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,679 occur till halfway through the movie, because, like I said, 1286 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,320 up until it like I thought I was gonna be 1287 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,800 given this a ten out of ten movie or a 1288 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,000 ten out of ten movie, ten at ten rating, and 1289 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:56,840 and then you know there. 1290 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 2: Was some minor things that brought it down a bit. 1291 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,920 Speaker 4: But man, overall, for me, it came out that long ago, 1292 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,880 and it's like it's like kind of made like like 1293 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,840 people make parodies of it, and there's like the one 1294 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,320 liners are so mimable now, like it's it holds up 1295 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,679 so goddamn well. And I think, uh, I think one 1296 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,280 of you said, like I feel like it's it's a 1297 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,920 tough one to or what's a better way to say, 1298 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,880 Like it wouldn't have had the effect that it would 1299 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,880 have had if it wasn't Arnie. It's just like a 1300 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,079 perfect aligning of the planets to like have this movie 1301 00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:29,199 come out at this time when Arnie was just so huge. 1302 00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 3: You know, he's just doing it the sun right now. 1303 00:52:33,159 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, essentially in this in the few years stretches, right, 1304 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,880 because when did Terminator come out? 1305 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:38,519 Speaker 2: The first one? 1306 00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: I think it's like eighty two or something like that. 1307 00:52:41,159 --> 00:52:43,880 Oh okay, so it's it's yeah, it's because he did 1308 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,079 like he did like uh, I think like Hercules, and 1309 00:52:47,079 --> 00:52:49,000 that's a movie where he did it, and they like 1310 00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:51,639 vowed him because they're like, well, no one's gonna understand him, 1311 00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:54,360 so like it's not his voice in it. And then 1312 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,000 and then yeah, I think, like I think it's a 1313 00:52:57,079 --> 00:52:59,719 two where he does Terminator because Cameron just needs a 1314 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,519 guy I as legend had it was almost O J. Simpson, 1315 00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:05,280 but that didn't work out and good thing for many reasons, 1316 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,360 wasn't O J. Simpson, but sor I was wrong. Terminator 1317 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,119 was nineteen eighty four, and the other things that got 1318 00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:12,840 him started, like gets known was eighty two and eighty four. 1319 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,719 He also had Cone in The Dua Barbarian and The Destroyer. 1320 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,760 Then he did Terminator in eighty four, Commando in eighty five, 1321 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,719 he did this in eighty seven, The Running Man in 1322 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,880 eighty seven, Ruled. 1323 00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 2: The Eighties, Oh yeah, sane, oh yeah, crazy. 1324 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,559 Speaker 1: The Twins, Total Recall, and then Kindergarten Cop and then 1325 00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:30,119 T two in ninety one, and that's when I think 1326 00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:32,880 it really really kicked off. It's like big time. And 1327 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,719 then he did True Lies obviously, which was great, and 1328 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:41,559 the eraser jingle all the way Batman and Robin and yeah. 1329 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:41,320 Speaker 2: What year was? 1330 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,760 Speaker 4: I apologize if you said it, but the the oh 1331 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,280 my gosh, what's even called the Christmas one that we watched. 1332 00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: For nineteen ninety nineteen ninety six is with the year 1333 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,679 is so so it's almost a deckhead after this, So 1334 00:53:52,679 --> 00:53:54,400 you can see where his career did change into that 1335 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,320 when he paid more mainstream of like, well you could 1336 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,239 do some fun. Hey fuck, I love ding all the way. 1337 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,920 But because you gave your kind of a final notes 1338 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:02,679 a Kirk and what would you give? You say? He 1339 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,599 almost was gonna give it a ten but sounds yeah, 1340 00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:05,559 so what is the score? 1341 00:54:06,639 --> 00:54:09,880 Speaker 2: I honestly, I mean I'm gonna go nine point five? 1342 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,079 Speaker 4: I I yeah, it was. It was such an enjoyable 1343 00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:16,039 watch for me. I it was awesome. It was such 1344 00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:17,840 a fun movie, like I was. I was very much 1345 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,800 in it, like the cheesy moments like it's not like 1346 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,239 oh eye roll like yeah fuck yeah. 1347 00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 2: Cheesy line like that was awesome. It really worked. 1348 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 4: Arnold was so good seeing Carl Weather's like in this role, 1349 00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:31,719 just you know, pulling from his character in The Mando. 1350 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,719 It's it's really funny. Just like the comparisons there, but man, 1351 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,480 he was fucking shredded, especially you know, pulling off that 1352 00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:39,119 log like he. 1353 00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 2: I mean all, like the whole crew just were shredded. 1354 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,679 Speaker 4: And I love their outfits, like it's just like that 1355 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,920 stereotypical commando essentially what Ben Stiller was wearing a. 1356 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,199 Speaker 2: Tropic thunder Like it's it's exactly. 1357 00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,639 Speaker 4: Pulled from that. But man, it it's so good. And 1358 00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:55,639 I think like the minimal usage of the Predator helps 1359 00:54:55,679 --> 00:54:58,880 it so much because he like, I'm curious what the 1360 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,960 what the screen time actually is of the Predator on screen, 1361 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,199 and I guess I could count like the the camouflage 1362 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,920 version two, because even if you include that, I feel 1363 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,639 like it's pretty pretty small. 1364 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 1: I imagine like ten to fifteen or something. Are you 1365 00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:13,880 looking up right now, Taylor. 1366 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,639 Speaker 3: No, I was just actually I was actually looking up, 1367 00:55:18,679 --> 00:55:21,360 like because when you said with Carl Weather's being super jacked, 1368 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,199 I was looking up in comparison when Rocky was out 1369 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:24,719 and just trying to see like the difference there, because 1370 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,599 he would have been like super for a pall. 1371 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so, but. 1372 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, nine point five for a movie in nineteen seven. Man, Oh, 1373 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,119 I'm so glad I was jumping on this retro to 1374 00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:37,840 watch these movies. 1375 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's only down from here pretty much. But 1376 00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:42,840 you know we're gonna have some fun out. You know, 1377 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,519 there's some good in there. I'm excited talk about Predators 1378 00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:45,719 because I hav been a long time, like I said, 1379 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,400 to talk about Predder too. But yeah, I'll go next. 1380 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,719 I'm trying to find that screen time for the first 1381 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,239 Predator I could do. Okay, yeah you do that, but yeah, 1382 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,679 I'm a little lower than kirkle mem at a nine. 1383 00:55:57,679 --> 00:56:00,000 The only reason it's not ten is because, like I think, 1384 00:56:00,119 --> 00:56:02,119 the beginning you all need that, you all need the setup. 1385 00:56:02,159 --> 00:56:04,199 But as I said before, I think at ten out 1386 00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:05,440 of ten for me is a movie that I know, 1387 00:56:05,519 --> 00:56:07,639 even if it's depressed and then I'm gonna watch a bunch. 1388 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,280 I do like watching this movie, but it's not one 1389 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,960 that I need to watch right away, and I think 1390 00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:15,480 is the beginning eventually would be you know, it's perfect 1391 00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:19,599 for watching it. But I just mean like there's only 1392 00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:22,000 a certain level of excitement or what I like about 1393 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,320 with that I love more the middle portion in the 1394 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,960 end I have, like I think, with a lot of 1395 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,320 like curtaincy like little nitpick Meyer once here and there 1396 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,079 but as I always say, like I kind of give 1397 00:56:30,119 --> 00:56:33,000 it as an excite or enjoyment as far as what 1398 00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:35,039 I found exciting as far not so much a critical. 1399 00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:36,320 So that's where I'm a nine. It's not at a 1400 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,440 full ten, but I'm at a nine, which is still 1401 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,679 all solid score screen time. 1402 00:56:41,159 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 2: Yes, are you ready? 1403 00:56:42,519 --> 00:56:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1404 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 2: You said what fifteen minutes is a fifteen? 1405 00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 1: I'll say, I'll say thirteen twenty six. 1406 00:56:48,039 --> 00:56:52,159 Speaker 4: Taylor, any guesses before I reveal, He probably dooggle he's 1407 00:56:52,199 --> 00:56:55,239 gonna say the exactly that, or he's just seeing the 1408 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,480 movie so many times. 1409 00:56:57,519 --> 00:56:58,559 Speaker 3: No, I don't, I don't know. 1410 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:03,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, eight minutes. Really that's shocking. I feel like. 1411 00:57:03,559 --> 00:57:05,679 Speaker 4: That's shorter even than what I would have said I 1412 00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:08,199 would have someone like least crazy. 1413 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1414 00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 4: I think it's just because like that last fight too, 1415 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,800 just feels a lot longer than eight minutes. 1416 00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:15,280 Speaker 1: And but probably he's not on screen for a lot 1417 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,679 of it's Arnold just run around everything, right, So m hm, 1418 00:57:18,719 --> 00:57:21,760 tear phild take us on what would you get this movie? Honestly, 1419 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,480 I'm gonna be biased. 1420 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,719 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go full ten and ten, like even with 1421 00:57:24,719 --> 00:57:27,119 the laugh at the end, everything like it just uh, 1422 00:57:27,559 --> 00:57:30,840 it was a bold movie and it just let us 1423 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,880 down a awesome road of sequels and everything. And yeah, 1424 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,480 it's just, uh, he's such a cool it's a cool concept. 1425 00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:41,119 It's such a left curve of a storyline, like he said, Travis, 1426 00:57:41,159 --> 00:57:43,679 having this military team going in doing their objective and 1427 00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:45,800 their mission and then all of a sudden, what kind 1428 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,440 of a curve ball could happen? It's an alien hunting 1429 00:57:48,519 --> 00:57:52,039 killing machine with advanced technology. It's just done so well. 1430 00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:54,480 The action scenes I really really jive with. I really 1431 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,559 really like some things are definitely dated. With the terminology 1432 00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:01,880 and the lingo. Stuff I definitely wouldn't repeat in today's society. 1433 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,639 Speaker 1: And they probably wouldn't either now. Like I'm not saying 1434 00:58:03,639 --> 00:58:06,039 that makes it right, but like back then, there's certain 1435 00:58:06,039 --> 00:58:08,079 things that you said that were people and hey, that 1436 00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:10,960 now is offensive because communities had a chance to speak 1437 00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:15,480 up now, you know exactly. But yeah, it's just this movie. 1438 00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 3: I watch it probably at least once a year, and 1439 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,400 it's just it's it's so good. I have one last 1440 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,480 little bit of like cool trivia, which I think I've 1441 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,239 told you guys before, but it's a video I'm gonna 1442 00:58:26,239 --> 00:58:30,039 play and let me know it's only be like fifteen 1443 00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:32,480 seconds long. Let me know if you guys recognize the 1444 00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:35,280 sound of this and here we go. 1445 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 1: I feel like when you said that up, it's like, 1446 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,679 what else would the sound be? Like, there's gonna be 1447 00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:56,239 a laugh of billy. Ah. It's like I saw the crow. 1448 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,079 I saw the crow making or the video there. But 1449 00:58:59,079 --> 00:59:01,079 I'm like, whether sound would you'd be like, oh, what 1450 00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:04,559 sound anything? This is guys, you know, but yeah. 1451 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 3: I just think that I love that. It's just like 1452 00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:08,079 it's just a crow. I've been out in parking lots 1453 00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:09,760 and you just you hear the fucking prider. 1454 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 2: No, he's like what the fuck? 1455 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,639 Speaker 1: And you just see those dots and this. 1456 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,559 Speaker 2: Can have be some fun to start repeating that. 1457 00:59:21,519 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 1: Well, holay, gentlemen, we did it. Uh yeah, I imagine 1458 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,400 when you're on Patreon check out, because it'll be kind 1459 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,360 of weekly what up, but on live feeds should be 1460 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,039 kind of every week or so you'll get another one. 1461 00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:34,159 We'll be doing Predator too with Donald uh Danny Glover 1462 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,679 sorry not Donald Glo or Danny Glover and uh oh man, 1463 00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:40,079 I'm forgetting the other guy with the teeth and he 1464 00:59:40,239 --> 00:59:44,199 is uh blonde. God. I thank Gary Gary Busey, thank 1465 00:59:44,199 --> 00:59:46,920 you very much. So, uh, it should be fun because 1466 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,639 I haven't talked about the while. I imagine it's gonna 1467 00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:50,480 be different comparing it to this one. But there's a 1468 00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:52,679 couple of good Easter eggs in there. So thank you 1469 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,199 very much. With it's Twitter, Facebook, discord Our, Patreon, everything, 1470 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:57,760 let us know what you thought about, let us know 1471 00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,519 what you would score it, and we promised when hear 1472 00:59:59,519 --> 01:00:01,400 fromus next the will not be boring.