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Speaker 1: CFL betting Blueprint. It's Week five, Andrew and Bobby. We're

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gonna break things down. Let you guys know where we

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think the lines are going to go. Maybe a little

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bit of a recap of course of week four and

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much much more. Bobby, how are you a good?

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Speaker 2: Good? Things are getting back on.

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Speaker 3: It's easy to end of losing streak when you bet

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on both sides of the same game. So finished the

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week pretty well and we're still still above water for

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the year, even though we had had a really hot

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start for week one and two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't too happy this weekend, so I'm going

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to be I'm going to be battling it. This Week

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five is going to be a big week for me.

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Had a good start to the week. I'll tell you

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what I mean, based on my season, Bobby, I should

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be just betting on Thursdays. I think I might be

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the best Thursday CFL guy this year. Just crushing you

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with the player props or with the sides told, whatever

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it might be. But you know, just a little bit

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of suf Disappointed in some stuff I think, just wrong

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side some stuff, unfortunate events. But we'll just do a

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quick recap. We don't want to spend too much time

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on it, because of course we will touch on teams

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throughout the breakdown of Week five, but Winnipeg on Thursday

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night they take care of Edmonton thirty six twenty three,

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Hamilton Friday night thirty five seventeen over the Alouettes at home,

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Saskatchewan thirty seven to eighteen victory at home over the

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BC Lions, and the only road team to get a

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win this week, as the Argos win twenty nine to sixteen.

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They get their first victory of the season over the

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Red Blacks. Just overall, we're going to talk about these

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teams obviously when we do some breakdowns, but your thoughts

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on this week, just any takeaways, any rants from you?

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Speaker 3: Not really any rants, Like the only one we think

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we were really surprised by it was Hamilton. There more

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or less like how bad NBT looked. And all you

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hear now is everybody shocked that backup quarterbacks are first off,

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their shock they're playing, Whereas like last year, every week

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we were telling we were the source for who was

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going to start. Half the league had their backup quarterbacks

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playing for a lot of weeks last year, and everybody's forgot,

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but what we didn't think, Like even going into the season,

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we thought, hey, there's actually a good group of backup

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quarterbacks now, we didn't think they'd be this bad. We

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didn't think Miss Soli would be this bad two games

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in a row. We didn't think NBT would be as

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bad as he was last week. We thought his first

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action he got two weeks ago, it was just kind

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of dinking and Duncan running.

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Speaker 2: Out the clock.

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Speaker 3: He didn't look good last week. So it kind of

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looks like we're back to where we were, maybe not

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as bad as where we were, where we're calling out

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Shaye Patterson and Jake Doligala and I don't know, Tyrie

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Adams might be walking through the door pretty soon in Autawa.

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Speaker 1: The So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got.

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Speaker 3: I don't know these backup quarterbacks, it's not it's not

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a new thing. That's why following the practice reports, having

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a team where people actually go to practice, unlike Toronto Argonauts,

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where there are four kilometers from the league head office

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and nobody can go to practice, nobody knows where it is.

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So it's good to follow those beat reporters and usually

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who was ever getting the reps in practice is the

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one who who starts all this garbage. Like we told you,

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Jason Moss would toy and say, oh Davis, Alexandri didn't

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didn't do any practice, but he might start. No, it's

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not a thing in the CFL. It's just pathetic, stupid

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old man mind games. Not that he's a stupid, pathetic

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old man, but that's that's the kind of games they play.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's tough because first of all, we

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talked I think we touched on it last week, a

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little bit of the Luke Wilson stuff. I can't remember

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how much you and I talked about this. Everything's been

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so blended because.

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Speaker 3: We've been Luke Wilson free. We've been Luke Wilson free

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Speaker 1: We didn't touch on it. No, oh man, all right,

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well I guess we could. But the thing is is

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that so I got a response from him over the

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weekend and I asked him, Hey, what's the deal with

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the backups? What are your situation? And he replied to

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me pretty much saying if I answer all right, you're

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pretty much saying he has to keep his lip shut,

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is what he said. And then somebody else responded saying,

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is it because it's American d lineman against Canadian o alignment.

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And then he said I have to keep my lip

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shut or something like that. He pretty much answered the question.

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But no matter what it is, the fact is, Bobby,

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this is a concern for the league, no matter what

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it is. Like, this is not you've taken away betting

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for a second. This is a problem for developing and

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growing the league. As people that talk about it weekly

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on this show, that bet on it, that watch it,

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It's like, look, how much like just in just different?

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How much different the red block. If Drew Brown is

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behind center. We haven't gotten to see him too much obviously,

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but how much different that team they go out and

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pick up those shiny new weapons and they like, imagine

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if you're an Ottawa Red black wide receiver this week

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or this past weekend, right like you've you've just like

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you're running your route and you're thinking there's no shot

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that I'm getting the ball. And that's frustrating, right Like

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looking at some of these guys, and even Davis Alexander

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to MBT, I mean, Davis Alexander just became a starting

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quarterback this year for the Alouettes, but that drop off

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was just so obvious for some of the games. And

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then you touched on with Massoli and Rourke and let's

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not forget I mean, you're the BC guy, you're there

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in Vancouver. But from the outside perspective, it seems like

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there's a lot of pressure on Rourke this year. You know,

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VA's over there in Calgary. You've got Rourke that had

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that you know, NFL couple of year tryout stuff, and

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then now he came back. He kicked Rourke out of town,

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and then he gets injured. Like if Massoli can't get

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it done, once Rourke gets back, there's gonna be even

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more pressure on it to be his team. So it's

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just interesting, like it's it's too bad to see all

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these injuries, but of course it's up to us to

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handicap it. I did end up on the Alouettes. That

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was a play. It was a free play. I was

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blasting it everywhere. The way I looked at it was

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it was kind of a sketchy line. It was kind

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of a weird price. Hamilton was off a bye, but

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that number, to me was too small. I just thought like, yeah,

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I've got I get it. I get these spots. But

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at the end, of the day. You're gonna still give

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me minus two or two and a half on the owls.

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I'll take that. I had BC plus five and a

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half number I think closed like plus two. That one

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didn't have a shot after the first half interception. We'll

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we'll get to all kinds of stuff, But one thing

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But ATS records. This is something a lot of people

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are talking about right now across the CFL, and if

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you win the game, you're covering right now, Bobby, a

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lot of it. For the East Montreal three and one

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record three and one, ATS Hamilton one and two, record

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one in two, HS Ottawa one and three, straight up

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one in three HS Toronto one and three record you

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guessed it, one in three AHS. So that's the East,

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and then now here it is with the West Saskatchewan

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four and oh record four and oh HS Winnipeg three

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and oh record three and oh HS Calgary two and one.

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Do you believe me when I'm telling you this? Right now,

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every single team that has won has covered the points

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spread so far this year. That is kind of unbelievable.

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So who's messing up? Are the oddsmakers messing up? Are

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we messing up by overthinking it? That's the crazy thing

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at this point in time, and things are going to change.

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That's why I wanted to bring it up here in

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Week five. The team that has won the game has

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covered all of these games so far. Bobby, I thought

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it was a glitch. I was like, there's got to

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be something wrong here with this web that I'm looking at.

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I don't think it is, do you.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just sixteen game sample size we're going with,

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and event all it takes is two or three to

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not cover, and then we're kind of right right back

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where we should right. What's the stat for the team

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that wins outright covers. It's like eighty eighty five percent

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of the time or something like that. So I'm not

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looking into it too much. I think a lot of

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it has to do with these like we went into

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the season thinking there was going to be like more parody,

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and there hasn't been. Like the bad teams are bad,

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whether it's been because of quarterbacks or because of well,

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quarterback injuries or who they choose to start a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Right, So.

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Speaker 3: I think that, hey, it's good for the it's good

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for the squares, it's good for us. We need the

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squares to stay in it to take advantage of the

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numbers when they're out there. So yeah, I wouldn't read

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too into too much into it. Yeah it is. It

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is definitely interesting that the records are basically identical for

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for the league, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the only team, uh with a we got this

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is crazy because this was only in Week one. Winnipeg

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with Strevler, but Calgary too and o Ats as an underdog.

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So uh, to your point, the reason why I'm bringing

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this up isn't for us to say, hey, let's start

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doing this. It's because, like you said, sometimes you want

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to look towards the other way and be like, Okay,

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people are going to start betting these inflated numbers, and

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then we can look at betting underdogs. It's just a real,

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real shame when you get an underdog at five and

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a half, the line closes at two and it just

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doesn't matter at all.

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Speaker 3: That's why it it closed even lower like it was

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like it was almost it was close to a pick

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before they announced workout, right, Like I got Saskatchewan at

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one five or one thirty five or something money line, right,

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So yeah, yeah, they're like the CLV is. I think

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the CLV is higher than ever this season, and it's

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just it's not translating.

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Speaker 1: But long term, that will lead us to success. Long term,

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it will lead us to some success. All right, let's

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get into Week five, Winnipeg visiting Calgary. We talked about

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the ATS record of this Calgary Stampeters team. Curious to

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see if I'll be what you think of this number

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at plus three and a half as home dogs total

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listed at fifty one and a half. Calgary strong underdogs

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on the year, Winnipeg, as we know, strong ats overall

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this season. It seems like the books haven't been able

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to put a number up high enough for this team.

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Here is this one of those spots where you look

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and say, why is this number what it is? At

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three and a half?

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Speaker 2: Not really this one?

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Speaker 3: Like I'm pretty high on both of these teams, and

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you don't really want to overreact to Calgary they're off

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a bye, but yeah, sure they they lost a game

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to Ottawa, but the weather was brutal, the passing game

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was eliminated, and they actually just lost because they couldn't

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convert like goal line situations. So I wouldn't read too

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much into into that last loss home dog, something you

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always want to look at. But then like Winnipeg's still

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like they're still the best team in the league despite

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what people who don't have to back up their opinions say.

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So I don't really see any value in this number,

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Like it's even trending back to the three, and that's

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exactly where I think it should be. Sometimes sometimes the

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best team in the league only only lays a couple

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of points on it's it's if you're going to go

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up any further to a four or five, like on

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the road, that's just no matter who it is, it

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just seems like a lot, right, So you have to

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account for home field, not just the crowd, but there's

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So yeah, I don't really have much on this to

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say on this game, just because I think the line

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is right where it should be.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Kevin. Kevin here a great spot for

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Calgary here back to back home and off and bye, Kevin,

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thanks for watching. We appreciate you. And you know, Bobby,

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I'll tell you the thing is is that the thing

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is these these bye weeks, if we look back, like

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several years, they actually have been pretty good for teams overall.

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And I kind of feel like I overlooked them early

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in the season because I kept on saying, Oh, it

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doesn't matter, it's early in the year, like some of

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these spots are spots I look for in July or

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I look for in August, you know. But at the

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end of the day, like we know that sometimes that's

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such a small league. We know what an extra week

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of prep can do. And as much as you and

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I joke around, sometimes we're messaging each other saying, like

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what kind of boneheaded decision was that? Or what's the

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game plan here for this team? If a team does

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have an extra extended time to game plan for a

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certain team, it can benefit them, and maybe it kind

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of benefits them besides health wise earlier in the year

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to get that extra week prep. They know who they're playing.

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But Brady Alavara for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers like a

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running machine. We've got, you know, just this team that's

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looking good all around. And here's one angle I will

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say though, is that they're coming off a game against

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the Elks. And this is something that I use a

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lot in the NHL, is you know, betting against the

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team after they just kick the shit out of a

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bad team. You get that false sense of security, false

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sense of like happiness almost like oh, we're so good,

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we just you know we Meanwhile, the Elks are giving

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up thirty five on average a game. But the problem

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is here is that I don't know if I want

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to bet against Winnipeg. I don't know if I want

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to wake up and say, hey, you know what, I

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want to bet my money against the Winnipeg Blue Bombers

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right now. As this team right now is three and

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oh ats and they're putting up numbers consistently and they're

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making it look easy. So I think it's a pass

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for me right now. In this one, I might look

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towards a Calgary team total closer to game day. A

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lot of those team totals across most books will get

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posted closer to game day, so we'll see. We'll see

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what we see tomorrow. Maybe what goes live. I'm gonna

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check live to see if anything's been posted as of

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right now. Let's see if we can. Yeah, I don't

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have anything, Bobby, but I might look towards a Calgary

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team total. Their offense might show up. They might put

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some points up on the board. But I don't really

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want to. I don't really want to let lay it here,

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or I don't want to really want to take any

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points here at this one, just because Winnipeg is so dangerous.

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I don't want to start my week off by hoping

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that they have a slow start. Kevin says Calgary also

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had some really bad variants, getting stopped at the goal

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line three times versus Ottawa, their neutralized VA in the

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past game last time out. Any thoughts on.

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Speaker 3: That, No, they He's absolutely right, they played that correctly.

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I think two of those goal lines were the result

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of the same sort of goal line stop. So but

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that's why I don't kick stupid field goals. You go

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for it on third if you if you fail, you've

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got them pinned on the two. You usually get the

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ball back around midfield.

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Speaker 2: You go again.

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Speaker 3: So Calgary seems to be getting it this year in

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terms of Winnipeg. Like, yeah, there three and zero against

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the spread, and that's one with Chris Streveler, one against

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the Lions where the offense didn't look that great, and

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one last week where they kind of had a I

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don't know, they spotted like they spotted a bunch of

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points to the to the Elks, uh, and then still

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covered the spread by almost double digits.

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Speaker 2: Right, So.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fine staying away this. Sometimes sometimes the best

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bet you make is is is no bet, right, So

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sometimes the line's right.

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Speaker 1: Well, And one thing I was say that I've done

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a lot this year, which you know, I think I've

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done this and collected a lot of CLV as we've

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talked about. But I've played a lot of games in advance,

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a couple of days advance. Bobby, you might catch me.

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Wait until game day a little bit more here this week.

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We'll see what happens. I mean, you know, you don't

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want to be getting the worst of the number by

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any means. But I always talk about Jeff Dawson, who

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I do a show with. He's mister team Totals. Him

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and I do a lot of shows team totals during

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the year in hockey. He's only bet team totals this

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year in the CFL, you pick the winner that team

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total is going over you know. You look at Winnipeg

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last week, it was thirty and a half, thirty or

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thirty and one and a half, Bobby, was what the

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number was for them. You look at some of these

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team Saskatchewan over BC like so many different games where

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the team total is a spot and I understand that.

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The way I'm looking at it is this. I don't

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know if three and a half is enough to get

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me interested in the Stamps, but if I can see

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a team total that I'm comfortable enough with, then I'm

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just cheering for them to get points and I don't

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have to worry about their defense, and that makes me

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feel good not having to worry about what they do

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on one side of the ball. So that might be

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one of my first client team total plays of the

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week of the season. Excuse me is just look at

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the Stamps to get some points up on the board.

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But this next one Hamilton Toronto, shockingly enough. I mean again,

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we haven't seen too much movement this week. Bobby, correct

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me if I'm wrong here, but this one hasn't moved

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too too much. This one's kind of the stench of

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the week. I want to know your thoughts on it.

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Speaker 3: This is wait till later in the week for the stench.

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But this line it did open. What did this open at?

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Like plus one and a half Hamilton. Now it's almost

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basically had a pick right, So like Hamilton, Like, yeah,

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I was on the wrong side of them last week

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for sure, and they played one of the best games

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I've seen them play in a long time. And it

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was good for them to have that game against Montreal.

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Even even your your boy Tim White, it seems like

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he's got his talent back, so I can point out

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when he drops the balls, but he actually I think

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he had nine eight catches on nine targets something like that,

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So Hamilton looks good. Toronto off a win, but that

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win was was against Ottawa, and Ottawa I figured out

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that Ottawa just just plays like they don't care or

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they don't know what the score is, like they'll just

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play football just to play it right, so they it

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was kind of an easy game for Toronto. But even then,

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like they had fourteen points from what side of a

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sloop slooker or something yea like a special teamer who

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had two touchdowns over two hundred yards in return yards

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on those but aside from that, like they didn't really

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put up much against Ottawa. I guess they didn't have to.

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But it's not as impressive as a win as it

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looks on paper, I guess, is what I'm saying. So, like,

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Hamilton is getting healthier, especially in their secondary. They have

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a few key guys who are doing full practice this week,

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so I know it's like I think, I think Hamilton

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should be favored, and I don't think many people should

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be favored on the road in the CFL, at least

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at the start of the season here, but they're like

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they're facing Nick Arbuckle. It's a rivalry game on the road.

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It's an hour up the road for them, right, So

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this is the best they've looked in a long time.

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I picked them up at plus one and a half.

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I still like him at a pick here. I think

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this is a If they lose by two special team touchdowns,

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then so be it. But I think Hamilton looks good.

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I'm buying into Hamilton. I wanted to buy into them

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a little earlier in the year and got burned, But

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I think this is a good spot for them.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I just feel like There's two factors

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to this game. There's the you know, a lot of

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times across a lot of sports, you wait to see

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when this team will get their first win, being Toronto, right,

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and then it's the time to roll with them. But

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at the end of the day, too though, you look

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at the win that they collected and you have to

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assess how much you care about that win, you know,

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And that's the big thing, right, Like you look at

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you know, you can look at what a team did,

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or you can look at what their opponent did. I

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like what you said there, Ottawa just plays football. They're

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just out there playing like they to me, like they're

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that game Toronto versus Ottawa was just a game of mistakes.

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I mean, if we want to talk about the ugly

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game of the week, that one didn't didn't look great.

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You want to talk about the special teams and a

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defensive player with he had a ninety yard return and

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a one hundred and five yard return. I mean, that

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guy just earned a contract in the CFL for the

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next few years with just that game alone. I'd probably

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say here with that one, Bobby. But at the end

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of the day, one thing I've noticed is that Toronto

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actually has done pretty good against the pass, and they

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haven't done well really against the run. Hamilton, as we

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all know, they're just a strict passing team. They do

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have that running threat, but they're mostly just a passing team.

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So I kind of worry about that a little bit.

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But one thing I like about Hamilton, and actually Bo

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But I think we noticed a correction in this in

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the last week was that they're spreading the ball around

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more like if we look at the if we look

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at the game for Hamilton versus Montreal last week, some

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of the stats here for Hamilton, how many guys caught

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at least two balls one, two, three, four, five, six.

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That's pretty good. I mean Tim White did get ten targets,

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Like maybe they can give somebody else a couple more

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of those. But you like to see a lot of

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guys getting involved in the offense, if you know, we

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can see certain guys mix it up, if we can

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see bow Levi Mitchell changing things. No interceptions for Bo

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against Montreal's defense. I know it was a tough go

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for Montreal's offense, but he still looked pretty good against

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their defense. I'm on the same page as you. I

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like this number. I think Hamilton's better than what we've

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seen so far this season. They're gonna get some confidence

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off that, and they do have a good offense. I

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don't think anybody could dispute their offense all year. I

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think it's mostly just been their defense. And I think

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it was that was it Hamilton versus Calgary earlier in

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the year. I think I don't know if you were

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on them as well I was on Hamilton. Yeah, I

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think you were on them right. It was plus I

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think I got like plus three and a half or

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something like that, plus three and a half or plus

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four and a half. And they're always giving themselves a chance.

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I feel like, especially Ats wise, are always giving themselves

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to self a chance. And in this one, I have

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this one as a slight favorite for Hamilton. So I'm

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right there with you. Plus one and a half on

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the tie Cats that's in pocket, and I feel like

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they get the job done on this one. At this point,

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we have to we have to mark that win for

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for Toronto more as just Hey, they played Ottawa and

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you call me an Ottawa hater all you want a

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lot of people out there. Shout out to Gay Moreenzi.

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But without Drew Brown, they are a different, different team.

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And Bobby, when I look at these backup quarterbacks they have,

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how can I expect anything to change from one week

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to the next. What are they going to do? Learn

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how to throw twenty yard passes in five days? Because

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if you're Geno Lewis and you're running a route, has

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he has he gotten hit past the twenty yard mark

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with a backup quarterback?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't want to be a receiver on that

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team for even like the past five years like they've had,

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They've had no hope. They put out Caleb Evans there

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for a season and a half.

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Speaker 2: Don Davis like these.

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Speaker 3: I don't know they You just wait for Drew Brown

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to come back, and you hope that Hamilton slows down

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because you know Toronto's going to get it together, so

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they'll get it in the playoffs set and Otto one,

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Hamilton will fight out for that for that last spot.

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But yeah, it's sad situation in Ottawa. It's been sad

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for a long time.

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00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,079
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just I mean, it's such a difference

478
00:24:13,279 --> 00:24:15,119
from Drew Brown and now I feel like I'm just

479
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,160
like the president of the Drew Brown fan club here,

480
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,119
because I'm just talking this guy up. But it's more

481
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,640
so like he's he can sling the ball, like the

482
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,240
guy can sling the ball. And a lot of people

483
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,880
said that based on last year's success and making a

484
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,640
playoff game, putting up points in the playoffs despite his

485
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,920
defense giving up a bunch of points, it gave him

486
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,319
confidence coming into this season to throw the ball deep

487
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,279
and take some shots downfield. And he's played like what

488
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,839
three quarters of football this season. Like that's just it's

489
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,039
tough to see a guy barely play that much. But

490
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,720
all right, moving on to the next one. Here looking

491
00:24:48,759 --> 00:24:52,839
at BC and at the Alouettes Montreal in bounceback mode

492
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,720
minus four and a half here total forty eight and

493
00:24:55,759 --> 00:24:59,519
a half against the BC Lions. Before we get into

494
00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:01,359
the game, I want to ask your thoughts on Buck

495
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,599
Pierce so far as a coach of the BC lines.

496
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,240
I'm I'm a guy off a loss with them, so again,

497
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:12,319
you know my frustrations, but I just feel like this

498
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,640
guy was an OC with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers, and

499
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,839
sometimes even as an OC with the Bombers, I was

500
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,000
frustrated with some play calls. Do you do you agree

501
00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:22,079
with some of these play calls and some of these moves.

502
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,440
I mean, you're you're the guy that usually attacks coaches.

503
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,640
How about your own coach over there in BC.

504
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: The one I the one I got to see once

505
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,160
a week in practice, right, So I don't know he was.

506
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:35,480
He was a good offensive coordinator in in Winnipeg. Like,

507
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,119
you can't really judge too much of what he's done

508
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,240
so far. He's had two games with Massoli, and Massoli's

509
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:43,680
curly lost lost the staff.

510
00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:44,039
Speaker 1: Right.

511
00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:48,279
Speaker 3: The only thing that I really can't stand these coaches

512
00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:50,519
for are the ones that go for these field goals

513
00:25:50,519 --> 00:25:52,880
on the six and that seems to be almost everybody

514
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,000
in the league. Again, so I was hopeful in Week

515
00:25:56,039 --> 00:25:59,000
one when when Buck Pierce was clearly going for it

516
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,680
on on third down goal line situations, and he seems

517
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,279
to I don't know if he got he's been burned

518
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:08,079
by it. He got burned a bunch of times. Luckily

519
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,519
they were playing Edmonton in Week one, so it wasn't

520
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:14,400
even a question. But he's gone back to these stupid

521
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,440
field goals. That's really my only criticism of him so far.

522
00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:22,680
He can only Yeah, I'd like to comment here, Kevin's right,

523
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:26,480
like you can only do so much with with Jeremiah

524
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,119
Masoli out there. I'm thinking of a Casey Printer's quote

525
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:36,079
from from Hard Knocks the year he left the Lions

526
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,240
and went went to the Chiefs or something, and that's

527
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,079
basically what what Buck Pierce is doing out there while

528
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,759
Rourke is on the sidelines. So I I'll reserve judgment

529
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:51,920
is until until Roark comes back, because I've seen, I've

530
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,200
seen what the other options are. I've I've watched I

531
00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:57,279
watched the other options for the past few years here

532
00:26:57,279 --> 00:27:01,839
in BC, and I'm happy. If if I was a

533
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,119
big lines fan, I'd be much happier with Buck Pierce

534
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,200
than Rick Campbell making decisions win the game's on the line.

535
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, just to me, it's obviously the play that sticks

536
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,400
out to my head, and I know he was the

537
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,079
one that called it. Was that they go for a

538
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,000
shot to the end zone before half. Justin McGinnis catches it,

539
00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:24,359
I'm all fired up and gets called for offside. He's

540
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:28,519
clearly offside. They run the ball the next play, Bobby,

541
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:30,559
and you know I was freaking out in our group

542
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,640
chat with me, you and Ian they run the ball.

543
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,559
I'm like, this is perfect. He's setting up for a

544
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:37,759
field goal, gonna be ten to nine going into the half.

545
00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:40,759
He's like, no, no, no, let's take one more shot.

546
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:42,680
And it's not even a shot to the end zone.

547
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,279
It's a sideline play. So the guy had to throw

548
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:47,920
the ball like thirty yards to only gain like two

549
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,960
or three yards. So what was the point of that play?

550
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,440
And it ends up being a pick six to end

551
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,279
the half? And I just found that he called a

552
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:57,519
lot of the same plays that he would call with Rourke.

553
00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:00,400
Am I wrong on that? Like? I feel like a

554
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,240
lot of the plays that he called I would be

555
00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:05,039
okay if it was Rourke slinging the ball. Yeah, And

556
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,839
it wasn't much different than if it was Masoli or who.

557
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:10,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, And they did split reps like the entire week

558
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:13,319
in practice and maybe that's why, Like it wasn't one

559
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,119
hundred percent solely game plan, but yeah, that was that

560
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,799
wasn't great calling there, given the time left, Like even

561
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:22,160
if they did make that pass, maybe they were hoping

562
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,559
he'd get out of bounds and they get even then

563
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:26,319
he'd be out of bounds with like eight seconds left.

564
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,240
He get one more one more play there. It's probably

565
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,359
third down, isn't it. So yeah, yeah, that that wasn't great.

566
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,319
Speaker 1: But uh well, you're usually the guy that's against field goals,

567
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:39,079
but I think that might have been the one spot

568
00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:41,000
you'd agree with me that just if.

569
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: There's zero time left on the clock. Yeah, shield goals

570
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,559
are okay, there was a really good one. There was

571
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:48,799
a really good one last week that didn't burn your

572
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,319
You got burnt on that live over in Toronto where

573
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:56,279
they went for a field goal and missed it at

574
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:58,319
the end of the game trying to get a field

575
00:28:58,519 --> 00:28:59,440
point differential.

576
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:02,599
Speaker 1: Don't remind me. Don't remind me, all right. So it

577
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,000
looks like MBT is going to be the guy. Davis

578
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:08,839
Alexander will most likely be out back to back weeks.

579
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,599
Montreal's back at home. We know how lethal of a

580
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:13,160
team they are at home, and I got to give

581
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,599
credit Hamilton does seem to play better at home themselves.

582
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:18,960
How do you feel here BC going on the road,

583
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,720
They're gonna be feeling some pressure here to have a

584
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,359
good game. But minus four and a half MBT once

585
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,000
again here? What do you think bounce back mode for

586
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:27,440
the Alps?

587
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think that's a factor. Here, like they

588
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:36,119
laid an egg against Hamilton there, so like you said, like,

589
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,279
doesn't look like Alexander's back, and that was kind of

590
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:45,839
that was basically confirmed yesterday at practice. That's why the

591
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,799
lines moved down to like four and a half here.

592
00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:51,519
For the Lions, it's a question too, Like Rourke took

593
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,960
most of the reps on Day one yesterday, but he

594
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,240
did that last week too, So I don't know if

595
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,599
they're going to rush him back for like as country

596
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,079
trip against the Alouettes, who's are like one of the

597
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:08,480
best defenses in the league. If if they do start

598
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:12,079
work like this number is gonna come down more if

599
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:14,720
they If they don't, it's gonna be it's probably gonna

600
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,799
be Chase Bryce. And this number is gonna go back

601
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,119
up over a touchdown. So either way, like I'm I

602
00:30:22,359 --> 00:30:25,480
like the LS in either situation. I like the LS

603
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:27,279
if it's like a three and a half against Rourke.

604
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:30,680
I like the LS if it's if you can grab

605
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,359
a four and a half five six against Chase Bryce.

606
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,799
So it's more of just like wait, wait for the

607
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:41,680
news to break and and I we went through this

608
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,680
last week with Saskatchewan BC. Every time there was a

609
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:47,519
change in quarterback news. It took like an hour or

610
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:49,640
two hours for the line to adjust. Like there are

611
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,359
some stale books like Pinnacle and Move right Away, fine,

612
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:56,640
but most of these other offshores, like they they hold

613
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,799
that number, they don't take money seriously at these books.

614
00:30:59,799 --> 00:31:02,079
So I just wait for the news out of BC

615
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,160
lines practice. And again it's not just quarterback issues for BC,

616
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,559
Like their O line is beat up. They got over

617
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:12,920
half of their starting O line is out. Could say

618
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,039
probably the same for their D line too, So a

619
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:20,000
lot of a lot of a lot of kind of replacements,

620
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:23,400
a lot of Canadians getting called in here, and and

621
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,480
that's what Luke Wilson's going to point out. But I'll

622
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,160
also mention BC. I think I think they only had

623
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,880
one Canadian on their O line and work Work got

624
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,000
injured pretty quickly this year too, So I don't know

625
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:40,079
if that's the entire reason. And there are people that

626
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,839
know a lot more than me that about the racial

627
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,039
rule here and and I kind of tend to agree

628
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:47,839
with them that it is a good thing. Otherwise you're

629
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,680
just going to get a revolving door of Americans coming

630
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,240
in for a week at a time until they find

631
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:57,000
the right guy. So there's no continuity continuity in that

632
00:31:57,079 --> 00:31:57,920
the racial rule.

633
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,319
Speaker 2: I'm a supporter of it.

634
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: So well, we haven't seen this BC team cover road game,

635
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:07,839
and we haven't seen them cover as a dog. We're

636
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:11,079
only in week five, but I'm right there with you.

637
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:14,160
But I think what I'm going to do, Bobby is

638
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,599
look towards the first half with the Montreal Alouettes. This

639
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,359
is a team that comes out firing at home. This

640
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,519
is an NBT that although he doesn't really seem to

641
00:32:23,559 --> 00:32:26,359
show a lot of emotion, he seemed like pretty pissed

642
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,720
off with his performance and kind of how he played.

643
00:32:28,759 --> 00:32:31,599
I think this team's going to game plan well against

644
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:34,880
the BC Lions, and I think for BC, we're probably

645
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,160
gonna see a little more of a conservative effort. And

646
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,039
you mentioned the injuries. I think that this is going

647
00:32:41,119 --> 00:32:42,799
to be a start. The Montreal is going to be

648
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,599
really strong in we can get that under two and

649
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:47,400
a half, get them to win by a field goal

650
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,799
to start the game in the first two quarters. That's

651
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,880
kind of where I'm looking here. Until Rourke is back,

652
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,000
I don't want anything to do with this BC team,

653
00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:59,079
And at the end of the day, I know it

654
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:02,960
is MBT, but it's NBT and bounce back mode off.

655
00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:05,920
The Alouettes loss as well, let's just not blame the

656
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,599
whole game on NBT as well. Wasn't a great game

657
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,559
for the Montreal defense either. I think this team plays

658
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:13,960
their best football when they're at home. This is a

659
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,640
team that can bounce back. And also where was Phil Pott?

660
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,720
Where were some of these receivers and they didn't really

661
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:21,240
have their best outing. I think we'll see them bounce

662
00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:26,400
back and do very well. Also, this Lions team against

663
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,160
the run, if I can just pull it up here,

664
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:33,359
rushing yards allowed per game one hundred and forty rushing

665
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,640
yards allowed per game, dead last in the whole CFL.

666
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,680
And if you remember that quote that I mentioned in

667
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:44,000
Week one, it was pretty much the entire coaching staff

668
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:46,519
saying for Montreal, we want to run the ball down

669
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:49,759
every team's throat every single week to help us open

670
00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:52,440
the passing game. I'll be looking at some running props

671
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,200
here this week for the Alouettes, but I'll be looking

672
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,119
towards Montreal in the first half to get the job done.

673
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,960
That run is a huge and I'll just point out

674
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,559
Montreal their second best in the league against the run

675
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,960
BC dead last, so first half play. For me, this

676
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:10,639
is one of those ones when you have just a

677
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:13,639
pitiful This reminds me of the NHL taking a really

678
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:17,960
good team the next game after a tough performance to

679
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:20,400
win the first period minus a half. I used to

680
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,360
bet that all the time, and usually you're getting them

681
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,039
as good favorites. Like if you're betting a minus a

682
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:28,639
half first period in the NHL and it's plus money,

683
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,159
it's probably not a good bet. Like usually I'm betting

684
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:34,519
it like even money, or like minus one ten, one fifteen,

685
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:37,039
or maybe like plus one ten. But this reminds me

686
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:39,480
of this perfect bounce back spot first half for the

687
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:43,159
Alouettes to get it done here. I want to bet

688
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,159
against the backups. And at the end of the day,

689
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,679
we can all say that NBT wasn't great last week,

690
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,559
but he's probably the farthest thing away from a backup

691
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:55,119
at this point. He's had some meaningful starting games, as

692
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:55,960
you and I both know.

693
00:34:56,039 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he played well last year, like he was

694
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,599
on quite a losing streak with the Elks, But I

695
00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:05,440
don't think there were many games where you could point

696
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,880
and say, hey, NBT put up thirty two points and

697
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,000
we still lost. This guy stinks like it wasn't it

698
00:35:12,039 --> 00:35:14,239
wasn't him, and he kind of got run out of

699
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:19,320
there because because they can't, they won't get ready to

700
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,079
trade Ford and I guess we'll get into that.

701
00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: Well, look all right, let let's let's let's get right

702
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,800
into it here. Actually, before we do, I just got

703
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,760
to mention this. I got to mention the special kids

704
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,760
the last day for it. If anybody's interested here for.

705
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 2: Where was your Canada Day Sale? That guy had a

706
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,400
good comment.

707
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,119
Speaker 1: I put it up. I put it up. We had

708
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:42,960
one going there, but we weren't. We weren't live yesterday.

709
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,719
So I had the Canada Day Sale going right now.

710
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,320
Fourth July, low a special sixty nine dollars for a

711
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,239
week of all places. You're going to get cfl any, rare, MLB,

712
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,320
anything else that I do release, so you guys take advantage.

713
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,039
One best bet is twenty five dollars. Five percent plays

714
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:01,039
thirty five dollars. As we know in this game and

715
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in most things in life, better to buy long term

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guys are interested, feel free to head over grab that

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on Twitter at McGinnis picks. We can talk things out.

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But we're looking forward to still having a real profitable

723
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:29,559
CFL season, looking forward to Week five and dabbling in

724
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:32,840
the MLB as we move along throughout the summer. So

725
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:35,800
happy I could make the graphic as well. I don't know,

726
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,639
nobody even told me I was gonna cut it with

727
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:41,079
the graphic, but I don't know who chose that bobby

728
00:36:41,159 --> 00:36:43,800
for me not being American and they put me on

729
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,920
that graphic, but I love it. Shut up to the

730
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show up the team for that one putting me on there.

731
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,119
So guys, wagertalk dot com. One week pass, and you know,

732
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,760
people don't like the one months and the ninety days

733
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,119
sometimes find that two intimidating, so I think one week

734
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,599
is a really good sample size to see. And you

735
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:02,519
can see my write ups. You can see how I bet.

736
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:06,360
Hopefully we're not just seeing the CLV this week. Hopefully

737
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,480
we're winning as well, because nobody cares about CLV unless

738
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,519
you get the job done, all right, Your thoughts on

739
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,400
this game here the Alex plus one and a half,

740
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,440
he talked about the stench. I got a feeling based

741
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,840
on your Twitter, what you're doing here with the team

742
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,280
that's averaging thirty five points against per game.

743
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, so last week everybody is saying, oh, tray Ford,

744
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,519
he finally he's improving.

745
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: But even then, like even in that game.

746
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: If you had Cody Figardo playing instead, like would you

747
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,400
say that, Like, he wouldn't have done any better. And

748
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,800
that's every game so far, and this has been every game.

749
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,760
This has been a lot basically his whole career for

750
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,840
tray Ford. And it's it's they're trying to make fetch

751
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,320
happen with tray Ford here, and it's not gonna happen.

752
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,960
It's he's had four years, he said, twenty one starts,

753
00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:02,360
eight and twelve. He got injured out like early in

754
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,519
one of them. And I looked up a few quarterbacks

755
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:10,440
who started fewer games that nobody's asking for, and the

756
00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:13,679
obvious one here is Chris Treveler. He's started only fourteen

757
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,679
and I think his record's pretty similar. But nobody's out

758
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,760
there saying, let's get Chris Treveler. They actually tried to

759
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,079
run Matthew Schiltz out of the league last two weeks ago.

760
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,320
He's only started fourteen games. I don't know his record,

761
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,239
but I assume it's not bad because he did take

762
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,280
the job from current East mop believe I Mitchell believe

763
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,039
I Mitchell couldn't compete with Matthew Schiltz. That's why they

764
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:41,119
got rid of him. I guess Cameron Dukes literally out

765
00:38:41,159 --> 00:38:43,719
of the league now, went five and six eleven starts.

766
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,639
Dustin Crumbs only had sixteen starts. Nobody's asking for him

767
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,400
even though we're probably gonna get him right. Caleb Evans

768
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,480
another guy like these are people that some of them old.

769
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,039
Speaker 2: Some of them young.

770
00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: But Trey Ford's had twenty one starts. People are saying, oh,

771
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,840
we're just give him a chance, let him grow. He's

772
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,000
gonna be thirty years old pretty soon, and we're gonna say, like, how, like,

773
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,000
are we still gonna let him grow? So again, the

774
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:14,440
problem that's always with tray Ford is like, sure, the

775
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,480
league posts all his videos, all the media says, oh god,

776
00:39:17,519 --> 00:39:19,679
he's so exciting, he's such a great quarterback. This is

777
00:39:19,679 --> 00:39:23,000
his year. They're always wrong, but it doesn't matter. The

778
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:26,079
books can't be wrong, and the books have never bought

779
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:30,719
into this trade Ford stuff, so that's why they're still

780
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,880
a home dog. And that's my trade Ford rat. Now

781
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,719
I'm gonna tell you why I'm betting on trey Ford

782
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:41,440
this week because they're they're playing Ottawa and Ottawa is

783
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:47,039
unbetable and they look awful without Drew Brown. So this

784
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:50,719
is nothing we didn't expect. We know what Dustin Crumb was. Yes,

785
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,679
he won a game where Calgary basically handed it to them,

786
00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:57,320
along with fifty mile an hour winds and seven degree

787
00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:02,760
summer weather, so like he's going back out there again.

788
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,639
It looks like it. People are already calling for Matthew

789
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:07,719
Schiltz to come back after they ran try to run

790
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,320
him out of the league two weeks ago. They're like,

791
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,800
let's get Shiltz back out there. Tyree Adams. They have

792
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,840
four quarterbacks on this team. I don't know why he's

793
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,679
also an option.

794
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: I watched tyreeb We know why.

795
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: None of them are good, so they recycle.

796
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: You know, you don't need you don't need three bad

797
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,239
quarterbacks backing up Drew Brown. So like, we know what

798
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,920
we have in these backups. So the only thing that's

799
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,599
going to save the Red Blocks. Here is Drew Brown,

800
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,360
and even if he does start, I don't think he

801
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,719
should be getting well, what is it right now? It's

802
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,760
down to one and a half. That's probably where it

803
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,960
should be. So, worst case you get Drew Brown off

804
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,480
an injury, are you expecting he's going to be one

805
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:47,400
hundred percent healthy?

806
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 2: Probably not.

807
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,639
Speaker 3: And I think that's the line that's the most they

808
00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:52,559
should be laying on as a road dog. This is

809
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:55,840
the Ottawa Red Blacks and we're their their road, sorry

810
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,239
road dog, their road favorites. Like that in itself, I'll

811
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,719
take any team against them. So yeah, I think tray

812
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,159
Ford stinks. I'm tired of this. It should be Cody

813
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:10,599
Fajardo in there right now. But I'm still taking the

814
00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:13,440
Elks because they're playing the Red Blacks.

815
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,159
Speaker 1: Well. I mean, based on what we saw, the Red

816
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:20,199
Blacks were allergic to any plays that were farther than

817
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,800
a ten yard pass. I mean it could have been

818
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,239
it could have been second and eighteen and they would

819
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,599
throw a three yard dump off. That's what we were seeing.

820
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,039
Like we the term that I heard the most was

821
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,840
you just can't throw that ball underneath. That's what the

822
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:40,519
broadcast kept saying that's another throw underneath from Dustin Crumb.

823
00:41:40,559 --> 00:41:43,039
It's like, yeah, man, the first down marker was fifteen

824
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:45,760
yards away. I don't know what he expects his receiver

825
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,320
to do, but he's probably not getting that first down.

826
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:50,880
They might as well have just punted it on second

827
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:56,360
down because they made minimal effort to get the fumble. Yeah,

828
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,519
so I agree with you on this one. I haven't

829
00:41:59,559 --> 00:42:01,880
locked any bet in so far on this one. This

830
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,679
is probably a good prop game. I made money last

831
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,000
week and it was I shut out to you, Bob,

832
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,280
because you said, hey, don't give up, don't give up.

833
00:42:09,519 --> 00:42:13,480
I had the tray Ford player prop passing yards over

834
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:16,519
and I bet it in kind of a different scenario

835
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:18,639
than this game will set up. However, though, I bet

836
00:42:18,639 --> 00:42:21,000
it when they were underdogs. I had Winnipeg first half

837
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,800
and I had trade Ford passing. But this is one

838
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,280
of those ones where I just think they're going to

839
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,199
be able to put up numbers on the Red Blacks,

840
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,119
because if you remember, Trey Ford had looked awful in

841
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:35,039
the first half last week, but then when he was behind,

842
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:38,199
he was able to accumulate those yards for me. When

843
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:40,599
he was behind this game, I think he could start

844
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:44,679
off start off good. Look at what our buckle did

845
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:47,159
to the Red Blacks. And I know you're not the

846
00:42:47,199 --> 00:42:50,360
biggest tray Ford fan, but if he can sling the

847
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,400
ball and just kind of have that threat a little bit,

848
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,800
then you can start running. They can establish the run game.

849
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,639
I think that could be really good for them. One

850
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,079
thing the broadcast team said last week, which I found

851
00:42:59,159 --> 00:43:03,199
kind of interesting, was that he didn't really run the

852
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:06,800
ball much, especially in the first half. One thing for

853
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,000
me is I'm a big fan of just be who

854
00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:12,800
you are. Like, I understand they want him to actually

855
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,320
act as a QB and like throw the ball more

856
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,360
and sit in the pocket and go through his reads.

857
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,039
But Bobby, that's who he is. No matter what we're

858
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:23,039
gonna say about this guy, I know you have your

859
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,119
forward rants. If you're betting on him this weekend, you

860
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,000
probably want him having over seven or eight rushing attempts

861
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:33,920
from where I'm sitting at least, and I think if

862
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,159
he does that against the Red Blacks, he'll open things

863
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,360
up for the passing game they are playing at home.

864
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,639
I agree with you on it. Again, this might be

865
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:43,760
one of those ones where I probably just want to

866
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,440
bet the team total, you know, or find a different

867
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,280
way to bet on them. We'll see where this number

868
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,679
moves if there's ever a chance again, this is one

869
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,199
of those ones. You look at Hamilton, you look at Ottawa. Here,

870
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,480
this is one of those ones where we're not gonna

871
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:59,760
have to worry about a whole which team covered, which

872
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,480
team one. It's just picked the winner, obviously with a

873
00:44:02,519 --> 00:44:05,360
one and a half point spread. So Edmonton to get

874
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,199
the job done. And I'm gonna tell you what, this

875
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,639
is gonna be one of those games. And I know

876
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:14,840
you like to get middles pre flop as you did

877
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,199
last week with BC Saskatchewan. You're gonna be able to

878
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,320
I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this out there now. You're

879
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,079
gonna be able to find your way in on both

880
00:44:22,119 --> 00:44:26,199
teams during this game. You'll be able to get Edmonton

881
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,440
or you're gonna be able to get Ottawa as an

882
00:44:28,519 --> 00:44:30,880
underdog at plus four and a half plus six and

883
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,880
a half at some point during this game. So Kevin says,

884
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,119
tray Ford is the king of garbage time, and wasn't

885
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:42,360
great is being really generous when it comes to Dustin

886
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,800
Grum and some of these guys absolutely all right, long

887
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,760
show for this week, but I want to do some

888
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,719
recapping for week four. I wanted to talk about some

889
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,320
ats numbers, anything else to add, Bobby or We're all

890
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:53,719
good to go.

891
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: Just on that getting both sides in the live Ottawa Edmonton.

892
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:03,320
I would just hope that Ottawa gets ahead, because if

893
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,599
they're behind, I have no faith they're ever going to

894
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:09,199
come back in any game. So true, pick up, pick

895
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,719
up Edmonton if they're if they're getting any points, I

896
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,039
guess live, but pick them up now. It's a good

897
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:17,400
number now and if it's dust and crumb, they should

898
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,440
be favored by a field goal.

899
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: Let's have a good week this week. If it's not

900
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:24,159
Drew Brown, we're team Elks, that's for sure. And if

901
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:26,920
it is Drew Brown, hey, we're still rooting on those Elks.

902
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,920
Just a little more of a challenge. Let's have a

903
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,480
good week, guys. Hope you guys have a lot of

904
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,320
success betting the CFL. Remember college football NFL here before

905
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