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smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for

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your support. Last hour I went over a lot of

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the details of this exclusive Wall Street Journal report. Jeffrey

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Epstein's friends sent him body letters for a fiftieth birthday album.

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One was from Donald Trump. Trump denies that he wrote this.

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He says, those are not my words. I don't even

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says I don't write pictures, I don't draw. Because there

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was like a silhouette of a female around the text,

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which is very odd. Script that was That was the

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body of the text.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was literally a script with his voiceover. There must

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be more to life than having everything. Donald, Yes, there is,

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but I won't tell you what it is, Jeffrey, nor

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will I since I also know what it is. Donald.

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We have certain things in common Jeffrey Jeffrey, Yes, we do,

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come to think of it, Donald Enigmas never age have

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you noticed that, Jeffrey. As a matter of fact, it

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was clear to me the last time I saw you

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Trump a pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and

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may every day be another wonderful secret. There is something

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I just want to put this out there too that

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I have seen over the last ten years, since you know,

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Trump came on the scene and people have attacked him

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in all sorts of ways. I have seen some pretty

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ridiculous thing that were conjured up, usually online he said,

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oh this is this is Trump. Trump did this, he

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said this or whatever, And a lot of these stories

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over the years when debunked, when you know, the first

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kind of investigation is held, they fall apart. But it's

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quite obvious at the very beginning, because it reads like

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somebody who hates Trump trying to channel Trump, but their

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hatred comes through. Does that make sense? I get this

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with callers, by the way, and emailers, people who pretend

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to be maga, they pretend to be of the right,

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and when and then they say something and it's like, well,

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wait a minute, that that sounds almost like a leftist's

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caricature of the right or of true Trump. And that's

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what this kind of sounds like to me. It sounds

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like it's written at a time when Trump is president

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and people hate him. Because remember, people didn't hate Donald

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Trump until he ran as a Republican and beat Hillary Clinton. Nope,

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Trump had like near universal approval. Everybody loved Trump. He

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was in more rap songs than any other businessman, maybe

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any other guy in America. He was in so many

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rap songs about being rich.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: He was on Oprah all the time, he was on

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Larry King, he was all over the place. He had

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his very successful TV show, he was in movies. So

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just reading this thing where it says there must be

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if I were to just take out the voiceover the

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stage directions basically of who's speaking voiceover, Donald Jeffrey, Donald Jeffrey,

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there must be more to life than having everything. Yes,

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there is, but I won't tell you what it is,

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nor will I since I also know what it is. See.

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So he's like he's communicating like I know what you're

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doing because I do it too. I've been part of

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what you've been doing. We both know, ha ha. And

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then Donald says, we have certain things in common. Jeffrey, So, okay,

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let's pretend for a moment that Donald Trump was part

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of the sex prostitution, human trafficking, all of that stuff

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around Epstein. Let's just say that that was all true.

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Why would he say we have certain things in common?

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Wouldn't Jeffrey already know that, right? Why would you say

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that you wouldn't have to And then Jeffrey replies, yes,

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we do, come to think of it. Wouldn't have to

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come to think of it because you've been participating in

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it with him, right, That's what I mean. Like this,

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it reads as if it is ret conning, retroactive continuity.

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together something, to make it fit, to make it work.

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It's a literary device. That's what this reads like to me.

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I don't know. I'm just telling you, like, this is

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how it This is how it strikes me. And he says,

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enigmas never age. Okay, well this was twenty five years ago,

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so they both would have been fifty or so, right.

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Why would you say that. Isn't that more of a

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recent thing, like in the last ten years, fifteen years,

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where everybody's like, man, Donald Trump, Like, has the guy

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have all this energy that he sleeps for like three

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hours a night and doesn't seem to age at all.

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In fact, his hair gets blonder. It's very weird. Like yeah, yeah,

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I just I don't I don't know. Let me head

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over to the phones here and chat with Mike. Hello, Mike,

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welcome to the show. Hey Pete, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for taking it call. First of all, I really

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do like the fact that you point out when something

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like this comes up that you don't lead to a

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conclusion because you just don't know and we really don't know.

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And I get that point absolutely, But I'm going to

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take both sides of this. Now let's say it. Well,

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first of all, if it's not true, he should deny it, right,

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And if it's if it is true, first of all,

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there got to be more than one copy of this

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book sitting out there, and maybe the onus is on

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if they looked at the one at the Justice Department

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of Wall Street Journal. I understand why they may not

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be able to have a photograph or whatever of the page,

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but they ot'll be able to find other copies sitting

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out there. So if it's true. The onus is on

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them to produce that, I think. But even and if

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it is true, and here's the point I made to

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your screener, I don't think there's a big smoking gun here.

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You know, we knew who Donald Trump was before he

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was elected the first time. Yeah, remember the whole access

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Hollywood thing.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, I mentioned it in the last hour.

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Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, there's.

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Speaker 1: Been no secret and it's not a secret. And Trump

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has never denied that he used to go party in

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and hang out in the same social circles as Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And so again, I don't think it's a

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smoking gun for that reason. Everybody knew who he was already.

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And I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's another thing you mentioned about the book, and

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you said you think there may be other copies, and

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they very well might be he apparently, according to the

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Wall Street Journal story it talked about here, it is

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the book was put together by a New York City

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bookbinder named Herbert Whites, and according to people who were

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involved in the process, they said this in Whites died

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in twenty twenty, and he listed Epstein as a client

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on his website back in two thousand and three. So

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maybe there was a single book made and that was

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it of these letters, and that's possible. But here's the thing.

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That book, if it's in evidence in the DOJ files, right,

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it's in their boxes of evidence or whatever, then it

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seems to me like you could just release the book.

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Let's see the book, Just put the book out, let's see.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know that would have embarrass Trump at this point,

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especially since he's denied it. So I don't think the

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Justice Department's going to do that.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is it's possible he might not have

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even written this. He could have had somebody else on

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his staff do it for him.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's a good point too, And coming back to

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the point I guess maybe my point about maybe there

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are other copies of the book. Maybe not if these

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were all original pages that were collected and bound into

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a book by that bookbinder, maybe there wasn't only one.

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If it was a birthday gift, I don't know. Yeah,

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But anyway, but again back to the K point I

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want to make, what's the big deal. I mean, you

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and I might find the behavior represent reprehensible, but it's

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nothing the public didn't already know. It's nothing of a

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type that the public didn't already know about it, right,

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And this is remember too, it was it was it

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was not the burglary that cover that killed Richard Nixon.

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It was the cover up.

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Speaker 1: Well in the media pylon. Yeah. So the the point though,

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that you're making about it's a nothing burger, that's the

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point that Ed Morrissey made as well over at hot

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air dot com. He's like, I don't I don't understand

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the end. Yeah, like what He's acknowledged this many times

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and according to Trump, it's not true. So who at

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the Wall Street Journal thought it was a good idea

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to run this after it was denied? If the story

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had some actual and substantive news value, it might be

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worth the risk. But it doesn't really have that value. So, Mike,

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I appreciate the call, But yes.

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Speaker 3: The text doesn't really body. It's the drawing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly exactly right. Yeah, great point. I appreciate the call, Mike.

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He did I guess he did not stay on the

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line right, but he made a point, which I think

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is a really good one. Hadn't even considered it, I

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would have got him on. But he told Bernie call

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screening that he noticed how people or since this story

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that were agitated in magaworld. They with Trump, they were

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mad at Trump and like, give us the documents. What

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are you covering up all this stuff? They have now

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moved back towards Trump because he's being attacked. I had

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not considered that. So could it be that they released

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it themselves, they put it out there in order to

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unify the base. Again, I don't know. I mean, we're

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all just spitballing here.

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Speaker 2: Corey.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. Hello, Corey, how are you?

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Speaker 2: Hey, mister p thank you for taking my car. Certainly, yes, sir,

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as always, I'm not a Republican, Democrat, liberal or constitutions conservative,

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you name it. Not to be my only grum.

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Speaker 1: You're just nothing.

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Speaker 2: I'm a human being, what common sense?

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Speaker 1: Right? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So my whole argument with this is we're talking

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about children being taken advantage of by demonic souls. I

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don't care if they're Republicans, Conservatives, Democrat, the president, law enforcement, military.

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This is a sickening thing that's happening. And for people

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to say, oh, there's nothing to see here. Oh, it's

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just a bunch of propaganda. These are the people that

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are a problem in America. Right, But you have to

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accept facts.

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Speaker 1: Corey, you have to, Okay, So first off, you have

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to separate out the the the crimes that Epstein was doing, right,

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versus the handling of the of the case and the

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files right that, like those are these are separate things

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because I have been calling for you know, the people

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who were engaged in the operation side by if if

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they were like Prince Andrew for example, that guy paid

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out millions of dollars to one of the uh, one

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of these girls that that Epstein recruited in and that

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tells me yeah, like and he started sweating during the interview,

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and like all of this evidence around him, Like that's

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like he's like the one guy that I'm aware of

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that has his name believably attached to the uh, the

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the operation. I would like to know. I want to

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know all of the all of the other people that

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were part of that operation too. They should be prosecuted. Yeah, yeah,

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which right, And that's what people in you know, in

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the MAGA world influencer crowd, that's what they have been

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clamoring for for years. I've been saying it for years.

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When I first became away of this case, I've been

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saying the same thing. I want all of the all

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of the clients identified and prosecuted. But that doesn't mean

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that everybody that was in Epstein's orbit, that doesn't mean

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everybody was involved in the whole operation of the pedophilia stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's understandable that we see right now. There's a massive

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trend of people in America that just don't want to

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believe it, but will not entertain it.

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Speaker 1: Well, believe what.

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Speaker 2: That quote unquote president entertainers are doing demonic behavior things

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with children on that island. We should need to be

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discussing nothing.

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Speaker 1: I don't even I'm not aware of anybody. Well, hang on, Corey,

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I don't know anybody that's that refuses to believe that

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Epstein did those things.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I've never encountered for refusing. You have people

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that are denial that a possible president could be included,

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and the denial.

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Speaker 1: Is see, okay, So now what you're doing, though, is

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you're saying that the operation that Epstein was running, that

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that that anybody around him then is automatically part of

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that operation.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, there are people who do not believe

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that this is an issue. Who this we I don't

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have Tom Mary Jane Susan's name. It's public. We all

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see it. You just had a collar. They said, there's

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nothing to see here the story.

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Speaker 1: Well this story. No, no, he said this story that

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this story isn't nothing.

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Speaker 2: Here is something worth talking about.

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Speaker 1: I've obviously spent over an hour talking about it, so

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I agree with you there, right, But what I'm trying

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to do is figure out what your point here is

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because it sounds like.

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Speaker 2: Is this okay?

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Speaker 1: Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it very simple.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, please do.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about children being done wrong by a bunch

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of adults that are hiding behind political theater. Get the

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list out so we can get these demonic people out

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of here.

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Speaker 1: So the uh, the Attorney General's office, the DOJ, Alan Dershowitz,

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the lawyer for Epstein, they've all said there is no list.

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But you don't believe they're right.

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Speaker 2: So you think they're okay, Yes, sir, I think they're well.

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Speaker 1: And that lines up. I mean that would line up

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if you have any kind of preconceived idea of who's involved,

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then yes, But like it's completely believable to me that

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they would not keep a list. Now, I think they

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probably have incriminating videos. I think they have evidence of people, right,

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I think they because the whole that whole Pedophile Island

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building was raked up with cameras and stuff. So they've

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probably got all sorts of videos of people. Now who

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are they? Why haven't they've been charged? I'm with you

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on that. And look, if Trump is on any of

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the videos, then that then yeah, he should burn for

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it too. But it doesn't sound right. But but here's

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the thing. Why wouldn't they have put this out over

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the last decade when they smeared him with the Steele dossier,

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which was false? If you had true things like this,

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why wouldn't you have divulged it and take the guy

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out a decade ago?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, my belief is this because when political party

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switch in power, they're covered their own by all means.

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This has been going on the way before me and

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you was even born in this political game. So to me,

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I'm not just letting a pull of curtains over my eyes.

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The Democrats on that list, there's recookies on that list,

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they're all spoken.

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Speaker 1: Why would somebody obviously leaked this story about the letter

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with the writing the birthday letter? Somebody in DOJ leaked

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this story right to the Wall Street Journal, And so

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why wouldn't they have leaked If there's evidence and they

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have seen the evidence that Trump was a participant in

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the operations in the pedophilia all of that, why wouldn't

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they have done it when they have been leaking NonStop

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against Trump for the decade. That doesn't make sense to

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no that doesn't know. That doesn't because there are leftists

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inside the DOJ that obviously want to hurt Trump, and

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they've been trying to do so for a decade. So

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why would it just start now with Epstein? It just

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doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: That it's a leftist or is it speculation that it's

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a leftist?

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Speaker 1: There are leftists inside DOJ that have been leaking information,

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leaking things to harm Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: Batu or speculatory, that's.

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Speaker 1: Not a word, but it's factual. People have been leaking

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thoughts on this Hoilepstein story and this bombshell, well they.

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Speaker 1: Don't call it a bombshell. They call it an ex

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exclusive story from the Wall Street Journal. And you know,

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if you think you know all of the players and

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the machinations going on behind the scenes, and that have

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been going on behind the scenes for fifteen years, then

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like I I I'm just gonna be honest, and I

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kind of dismiss your you know, your assertions. And if

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you think you know what all the players and all

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of the machinations are, like, there's no way, there's no

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way you could know not at this point. And maybe

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we find out, maybe we don't, but whatever comes out,

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if anything, is not going to satisfy a large chunk

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of the population because a lot of times, you know,

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the conspiracy theories are too much fun, and when people

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have drawn lines in the sand and they've said this

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is what really happened, I know what's going on, they

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can't move off those lines. They don't want to admit

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that they were wrong about something, or they have preconceived

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prejudices and such, and so they're not going to move

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off of their positions. So the conspiracies will will never die.

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So I can talk about the different theories that are

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out there, and I can ask all of the questions.

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And to me, one of the biggest ones that I

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just asked Corey because Corey seemed to indicate that he

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thought that the president is implicated in the Epstein trafficking ring, Well,

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I've seen no evidence to prove that. So but you know,

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if you've got evidence, then let's see it. And the

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big question that I keep asking is if you had

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this evidence for the last decade against you know, literally Hitler,

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the threat to democracy to the point where you were

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fabricating all sorts of other stories about Trump over the

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last decade, why wouldn't you have used something that was

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actually real? Right, So John says, even Eric Erickson doesn't

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think that that letter sounds like Trump. Eric Erickson's not

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a big Trump guy. Email from Thomas, who says, subject

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line more Epstein again, love your show, but tired of

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hearing about Epstein's story again. Best part of your broadcast

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version is the DODA DA theatrical highlight. Oh you mean this?

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It always makes me laugh. You are probably close to

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the truth that he was involved with international political or

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criminal activities. His two thousand and eight sentence of eighteen

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months surely indicated that he was connected and protected. It

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has been so long and so mixed up that the

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truth has been buried so deep. The real truth may

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never be known. All the documents released won't matter in

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the long run. Dead Men Tell No Tales is how

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the game ends. Yeah, and that's what makes it, you know, unfulfilling,

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but also gives the story legs in perpetuity. It will

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continue on because of that. Dennis says, I for a

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long time have thought that there are two types of

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politicians in DC, the caught and the uncaught. That's fair.

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Another message. You referred to any potential customers of Epstein

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and Maxwell's as John's. Where do you get off stereotyping

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a whole section of people based on their names? I

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am insulted. I am so mad, signed John. Let me

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see here, this is from pretty lengthy here. I might

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have to wait to read that, Timotheo, because that's a

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pretty lengthy comment there. This is from Drew. Two things

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about this new bombshell Epstein report Number one, It sounds

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like somebody trying to extort something I e. Faked maybe

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by Epstein himself. What the letter is faked by Epstein?

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It was compiled by Maxwell, So I don't know. Could

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this have been done to ruin the reputation of the

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Wall Street Journal by getting them to publish this without authentication? Also,

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Russia isn't low enough to do something to distract Trump

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and his administration. Look, this is this is also part

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of it, right, This is part of the This would

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be part of the political dynamic going on here is

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that now this story comes out right timed for the

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maximum impact. Now, maybe somebody had this document or knew

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about it or something, and all of the Epstein stuff

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in the news recently prompted them to finally break their

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silence and divulge information from an investigation of over you know,

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fifteen years ago or something. Yeah, maybe maybe that's what

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did it, Or maybe it's timed to drive the wedge

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to double down, to keep splintering and fracturing the magabase

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and to keep Trump and his administration talking about this story.

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other direction, there comes a near rabid charge by hardcore

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magas steeped in naievete I never know how to pronounce

474
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that word. To exact justice for every pervert found on

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the Epstein client list. If it actually exists, they demand

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that these clients be brought to justice, without any idea

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of how justice would be achieved. It is as if

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they believed that a monster capable of pimping out children

479
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would be of sufficient character as to never tell a lie.

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If that list actually exists, there is no way to

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know if any person who appears on it is actually

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guilty of being a client. Alan Dershowitz is a prime

483
00:28:04,519 --> 00:28:07,079
example of this, having been named as a client and

484
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proving in court that the accusation was false. Right, And

485
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,359
this is what I was talking about earlier. Actually, Epstein

486
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had a black book. It was an address book, a

487
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,799
contacts book, but everybody was in there, all of his

488
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,920
contacts were and Dershowitz was a lawyer for him. And

489
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he had met Dershowitz because he wanted to go to Israel.

490
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He had never been, and so he knew nobody, and

491
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so he asked to be put in contact with people whatever.

492
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So that's how Dershwitz ended up in this book. And

493
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then Epstein used him as his lawyer. And this then

494
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when his name got outed, some woman accused him of

495
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being part of the ring, and then she later recanted,

496
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,039
said she made it all up and she was troubled. Right,

497
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:56,680
she was a troubled person, and he showed in court

498
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,240
that the accusation was false. The same could be true

499
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for any person who shows up on that list. But

500
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then again, it doesn't really matter if they are innocent

501
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,480
or not. It has to be proven that they are guilty.

502
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And until it has been proven they then any entity

503
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that publishes their names with the accusation will be committing

504
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:15,839
libel and find themselves being student. Well, you can public

505
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if they get charged. Yeah, if they get charged. And

506
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:22,279
that's that's the thing. Like, did Epstein keep a separate list?

507
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,519
Like here are the people that I have compromised, you know,

508
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:28,519
here are the people that participated in the illegal activities,

509
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,400
and then these are the people that I was acting

510
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,440
as a bagman for intel agencies to fund covert projects

511
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,279
that their governments didn't want them to be right, Like,

512
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,440
I don't know, but he keeps separate lists. That sounds

513
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,119
pretty That does not seem secure, But maybe he did

514
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,720
as insurance right, he could have every success of Trump.

515
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:51,680
This is back to Timoteo's message. Every success of Trump's

516
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,559
second administration will be ignored in favor of coverage of

517
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,119
constant lawsuits and conspiracies over what Epstein files Trump didn't release,

518
00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:02,559
because lord knows, no amount of transparency will ever be enough.

519
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,680
Democrats have found in maga's naive demand for justice their

520
00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:11,119
own Russia collusion two point zero where twenty four to seven.

521
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:14,000
Until November twenty twenty eight, the only coverage in mainstream

522
00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:16,279
media will be about Trump and the cover up of

523
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:21,559
the Epstein files. Let me see here, this is an

524
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,559
eighth three number. I don't believe Trump was involved because

525
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:27,799
of exactly the point you are making, which was why

526
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,920
did they not release any of this stuff earlier to

527
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:35,319
prevent him from winning? Why do you think Epstein's girlfriend

528
00:30:35,359 --> 00:30:37,559
is still alive? I raised that same question earlier. I

529
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,680
don't know. It doesn't It doesn't make sense to me.

530
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,319
If Epstein did not kill himself, if he was whacked

531
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:48,039
because of what he knew and who he was going

532
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:51,240
to take down with him, she would be able to

533
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:55,519
do the same. But she's still alive, right, So that's

534
00:30:57,839 --> 00:31:04,319
that's odd. Have you considered that maybe Gleane Maxwell is

535
00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:07,000
the asset and he was not, and this could be

536
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:10,640
the reason she is still alive. That's possible too, right

537
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:14,839
because her dad. The texter here points out that her

538
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,200
father look at his father or her father, Yeah, he

539
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:21,440
was a shady guy. Maxwell was. He was all connected

540
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:26,680
to intelligence services and stuff. So it's possible that she

541
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:29,480
was an asset. Although now she's in prison, so I

542
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:35,039
don't know. Let's see here, I'm trying to get through.

543
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:39,319
There's a bunch of texts here, Kenny from mint Hill.

544
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,480
Isn't it interesting that the UK was the first to

545
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:45,079
cut a tariff deal and then the Epstein files became uninteresting?

546
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,000
Maybe a side deal to protect the royal family. I

547
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:50,039
am a Trump supporter, but Trump is a deal maker.

548
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,279
That's interesting. That's a theory. Yeah, maybe they maybe used

549
00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:59,039
it to pressure the UK into doing a tariff deal,

550
00:31:59,079 --> 00:32:01,480
like you know, we got these EPs files and such whatever.

551
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,240
I don't know, but they've been saying that for Trump

552
00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:06,400
ran on this. I mean, people all around Trump World

553
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,960
we're talking about, you know, we're going to release all

554
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:14,640
the Epstein files and stuff. I see here. I'm trying

555
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:20,599
to get like, this interface is is not the best?

556
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,079
Doesn't the FA require flight plans including passenger manifest to

557
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:32,279
be filed for every flight yes. In fact, it's in

558
00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:36,079
the Wall Street Journal article, which we've already known about

559
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:45,680
Epstein and Trump spent time together. Here it is spokes Yeah,

560
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,799
because Trump or Clinton was on the flights too. Maybe

561
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:50,480
I don't think I highlighted the part of this. It's

562
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:52,240
a very lengthy story, but it's in there, and it

563
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:55,799
talks about the number of flights that Trump appeared on.

564
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,279
There was like four of them, like twenty five twenty

565
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:02,519
eight years ago or something, and then like one in

566
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,880
the next year, one in the next year, and one

567
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,960
in the next year. But they were always from Florida

568
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:14,079
up to New York. So yeah, but the flight logs,

569
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,920
I don't know if Yeah, Trump along with others including Clinton,

570
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,079
appeared several times on flight logs, according to two thousand

571
00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,519
and two. And then they do over there Trump had

572
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:27,400
the falling out. Then yeah, well it's listed in here,

573
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:30,039
but they a lot of the flight logs are known.

574
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,799
So oh, and now I'm accused of is this one

575
00:33:33,839 --> 00:33:36,279
here towing the company line? I don't even know what

576
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:40,039
that means? What's the company line on this? I feel

577
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:42,640
like I've gone over every single angle you could see

578
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,200
in this story. Well, what do I know?

579
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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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