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We got Brian here for the full show. Here, we're
gonna break down a handful of games together. You guys
know what Wednesdays are all about. They're a little bit
quieter in the NHL, but you know what, it's a
pretty decent slate. We got some beatable games, some betable games,
and I actually have a big play going up today
if our system would cooperate and start working on the
back end, because I have the analysis ready and rocking,
but it's not working. But you guys will get that
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can grab that at wager Talk. But let's bring in
the boys here. Carm Brian, Good morning to you guys.
Karen on Wednesday. But how are.
Speaker 2: You get some better Wi Fi? Maybe that the problem
is your WiFi? Yeah, working perfectly fine for me. But yeah,
an overall even day for me, although NHL was the
one down down part of the day, three percent winner
with the Anaheim and Columbus game going over the total,
which is also your pod play. The five dollar customer
appreciation back to back weeks where I've lost that five
dollars customer appreciation play, So I apologize for that. It
was a game in which I can't even make an
excuse for it, and I was talking to Brian before
the show. I can't make an excuse for it because
even the postgame analytics and I always love to look
at that, everything was in uh was in San Jose's
favor against Calgary. The only thing I did get out
of that game was closing line value because it was
one point thirty when I played it and released it,
and it closed that you know one somewhere around there
one forty seven. So a lot of people were on
the what looked to be a good situation for the
Calgary Flames that turned into a very bad situation. So
I apologize for that, guys. I will get it next
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fifty percent off coupon. Even for the people that did
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looking at the games last night, it was a crazy night, Andrew,
as you said of NHL hockey, I was on wager
Talk today. At least I will toot my horn and
not want and say that I did give out on
wager Talk today. The Edmonton Oilers team total over three
and a half against Pittsburgh. What a game with those
two goalies end goal Stuart Skinner and Tristan Jarry into
that one. I don't think either one of them made
a difference last night. We'll get Brian's thoughts on it.
Brian's gonna talk not only the New Jersey Devils, but
they as Golden Knights. But because Brian is the only
guest today, we brought him on early, so he'll talk
about the La Kings in Florida if he has an
opinion on it, and then the Jets and Saint Louis Blues.
That's how we're going to finish it off the same
game parlay from Andrew where he has guaranteed me a
winner today. So I am so excited about that. The
pod play, we are at our highest total right now
for the pod play at sixty five fifty eight, so
we're going to try and keep that. Going with that, said, Brian,
how was your knight?
Speaker 1: Brian, I didn't think he was going to stop. Man,
guy makes fun of Buster there for talking so much.
Holy shit, I didn't think he was going to stop.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I'm not talking about I'm not talking about
construction or picking avocados or working in the tequila plant.
I am talking facts facts. I'm showing transparency that my
play was about as useless as Austin Matthews has been
all season long. So anyways, but that said, Austin Matthews
must have saw yesterday's video because I think he did
score yesterday the third period, but then he could have
had the empty neck goal and he screwed me over.
Speaker 1: So me too, me too? What's oh?
Speaker 3: Oh? I finally get my chance?
Speaker 1: What's up? Brian?
Speaker 3: Oh? Man? You know you said you were waiting for
Andrew to give you a solid winner. If you watched
any of us yesterday on the show, Wader talk is
very very they tell you what's going on, very transparent.
And I went over yesterday's plays and I finally put
out a play. On every single hockey game, I would
have lost them all, and it so happened. The four
guys who are on the show yesterday all lost and
the guys that had success or guys that weren't on
the show. And so I gotta apologize to everybody who
watched the show yesterday because if you took any of
our information, for the most part, it was a bad
night for you and it was bad for me. I
lost both my plays and the islanders on the show.
Why do you want nothing? I thought that we were
in a really good shape. Didn't happen. I had washedot
that there was a lot of value on Washington. They
get shut out on the road. Yeah, I guarantee we
will provide more winners for you today than what we
did yesterday, because you'll have those kind of days once
in a while. And I'm glad that we can get
on here and talk about it because we want to
be as open minded and as as transparent as we
possibly can, and which makes us unlike a lot of
the other places out there. And I'll just leave it
at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know we Brian. Then I'm gonna go to Andrew,
of course, because you know, he's got to get his
words in today. It is kind of like getting steps in,
you know, on the treadmill. Andrew's got to get his
words in or else he loses his vocal cords. But
with that said, some you know, I always use that analogy.
Sometimes you're the nail, sometimes you're the hammer. But the
idea is we are supposed to be the hammer a
lot more times than we are the nail. So with
that said, let's let's go to the tallest guy on
the panel, the nail himself. But he has been hammering
and even hammering the college plays as well too, mister mckinnis.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, guys, we talked about this a lot.
Yesterday my best bet hit, my only four percent play
of my card and everything else lost, and it's like
so frustrating because we all know how it goes. Like
there's days we've had where you like a bunch of plays,
like I think it was last Saturday or maybe on
Sunday where I liked a bunch of plays and I
only gave out one or two, and I'm like walking
around the house. My girlfriend's like, why are you so
pissed off? Like you went to and oh, And I'm like,
cause I could have gone like six or seven and zero,
And she's like, well you were never going to give
out that many plays. And then of course yesterday I'm
on leafs team total New York Rangers, who, by the way,
Karen was right, they're just cursed at Madison Square Garden.
I don't know why I went against them or went
on them. Point being is, it's one of those funny
things where like the best bet of the day that
I advertised at the website hit, but everything else lost.
So it's kind of like that thing where Karen and
I talk about, like, you know, when you go four
and one, it's a great thing, but you don't want
the four or five percent to be the loser. And
then sometimes you go one and four, but if you
want to hit one, you want to. So anyway, the
one that I hit was the good one to hit
at least, but it was still a tough day. So
we're in bounce back mode. And I always say this,
these are the days that you want to make money
in the NHL. We know the busy days are good.
It's like Andy Lang and I say, we always like
betting the primetime games. Your laser focused on our on
our you know props. When it's one game and one
game only, we've got just a few games on the
board for tonight. Let's get it going here, guys, Kings
and Panthers. First game on the board. Let's break it down, karm.
Speaker 2: All right, one forty four for the Florida Panthers plus
one eighteen for the LA Kings. Total sits here at
five and a half. And I'm seeing as far as goaltending,
we have a confirmation on the goaltender for Florida. It's
going to be Oh God, here we go, Danil Tarasov.
Let's hope I pronounced that correctly. And then the goalie
for the other one who's expected Andrew And this guy
costs me a lot of money early in the season,
Anton Forsburg for the LA Kings, Well, there was injuries
to that team. He was in goal. I didn't make
any money bet in the LA Kings early. I'm not
sure if the team sucked or it was just the
goaltending sucked, but I lost money there in that one.
You know, the first thing you want to do is
you want to look at the toll here because you
start to look at two teams that are using the
number two goalies. But in Washington and Minnesota game I
had a very small play on the over in that one,
A lean and I get five goals from Minnesota with
the backup goalies and goal and I couldn't get anything
from Washington, just a goal. Washington get me a push,
just a goal. There's nothing more frustrating when you have
a total that one team does all the scoring gets five.
Reminds me of the seven nothing win by Utah against
the Anaheim Ducks where I had over six and a
half and I had needed Utah to get every one
of those goals because the Ducks did nothing in that one.
Andrew I still leaned the Florida in this one. I
get it. The Elli Kings are a very good road team,
and I think they're starting to turn the corner and
play better. But this is one of those ones where
the Florida Panthers. I normally I would fade a team
in their first game back from a long road trip,
but the first game back for them was essentially the
game that they played against Tampa Bay in Tampa Bay,
so they've been back in the Sunshine State. They could
have very well stayed in their own homes prior to
that game. So with that said, there's a Florida team
that is starting to slowly move up those standings, starting
to get better. They're going to get some help when
Matthew Tishuck comes back, and then we'll see if they
do a little bit of dancing around that long term
injury reserve with Barkov and get another player in there,
because it's going to be there's gonna be a lot
of guys available. I think prior to Christmas, the Christmas
freeze on the twenty third where you can't trade anymore,
I think it's a twenty third give me Florida in
this one minus one forty four, even with terrosovn goal. Brian,
your thoughts, Well, you mentioned it is the first game
back home, and yeah, they probably when they left Dallas
on Saturday, they probably went back home and then went
over to Tampa on Monday.
Speaker 3: But did you watch that game. That is the most
intense rival rate I have seen. He goes all the
way back to sprint training or the exhibition games they
head back to back asphabition games. Everybody's getting suspended, everybody's
getting beating the crap out of each other the entire time.
Their first meeting this year, the same thing happened yesterday,
even though there was only two fighting calls and it
was in the third period. It was a very physical game.
And so here they go. They come back home after
a real strong road trip, which the only loss they
had was in Anaheim. We're not in Anaheim and against
the Avalanche in the second of a back to back.
Florida's playing great hockey right now, but they're going up
against the team right now, and the Kings were playing
terrible hockey. But I don't want Florida because of the
way they just came off of Tampa Bay. They shut
out Dallas, Florida nothing on the road. That's the hell
of an accomplishment. Then they played Tampa Bay beat them
five to two in a game that they just dominated.
It was very physical. Tampa was never really in that game.
And they've got to be feeling pretty good about themselves
coming back home here playing the team in the Western
Conference who is not playing well at all, especially offensively.
I believe that the King's offense has been horrendous. They
scored like three goals in the last four games or something.
They've been in really bad shape. There's going to be
a letdown here for the Florida Panthers and it's just
still the same for the most part, the same guys
that have been losing a lot during this all the
time without the really good players that have been out
from an injury. So I'm a little bit interested in
the Kings here, but it's got to be a major
letdown situation for Florida after the road trip they were.
Speaker 2: Just on Andrew. You know, we talk about teams coming
back from like the East coast, West coast, left coast,
whatever you want to call it, in that long travel schedule,
and you know Florida. Would you look at Florida's and
you know they're back in Tampa and they played that
somewhat physical game against their rivals, would you think that
now with the backups in there. And I'm not saying
these backups are terrible. I don't want to say that
because the total will have moved would have moved by now.
But do you feel like this is a spot where
where Florida could absolutely be flat and the Kings take
advantage of it.
Speaker 1: Well, I think, like Brian said, that this is a
rivalry that's just been unbelievable to watch. You know, one
thing I will say from a hockey perspective about this rivalry,
these teams are going to play shortly after Christmas again,
and if the suspensions don't happen or the penalties don't happen,
that next game is going to be just equally as
chaotic as well. Like we talk about the players having
to police the game themselves, which I always love, and
I think any true hockey fan loves the fights and stuff.
But that hit on Brandon Hagel was dirty and greasy.
He got hit. He's got hush in history, and every
single time these teams play, something dirty happens, which ends
up resulting in the next game something dirty happening as well.
So just from the hockey perspective, that's kind of annoying
when you look at it, But when it comes down
to it, I think that probably even plays into the
factor guys even more when it comes to the letdown
spot and the motivational spot, because you know, the LA
game that they're coming off of, that's about as more
of a motivating spot the Dallas Stars could have come
off of because they just got the breaks beaten off
them by the aforementioned Florida Panthers. So it's kind of
interesting kind of the situation here because You've got a
Kings team that's playing the Stars, that played a Stars
team that came off a tough game against the very
Florida Panthers we're talking about right now. But I think
this could be a good spot. And the funny thing
is looking at this matchup. Over the years, this LA
Kings team, whether it's been on the road or at home,
there hasn't really been much of a measured home ice
advantage for them, Like sometimes going out on the road
has been equally as strong for them. So I kind
of do lean towards this. Part of me actually leans
towards the over though, just based on Florida's offense, Like
we've been seeing Lundell, we've been seeing Ryan Hart, we've
been seeing Bennett, Like, these guys have started to step
it up quite a bit a lot more. And if
I'm going to use the urgency off a shutout angle,
well LA didn't get shut out guys against Dallas, but
they pretty much did. Does that angle come into play
a little bit here? How how would you guys feel
about an LA first period in this one? Potentially that
urgency has to be there from them in the first period.
And you know, Brian, if we don't if we think
that's gonna be a flat spot for Florida. Maybe the
flat spot comes early on.
Speaker 3: I would firmly agree with that. If you're going to
play them, the problem, well, let me let's just take
a quick look at the carolines you've got. You can
get you know, one one upwards are one thirty if
you're looking at LA, but most places are in about
the one twenty range. If you take a look at
the money line in the first period, we are getting
roughly the same. Well, no, you're get a little bit less.
You're getting about one one ten one to five one ten,
so you get a little bit less. But I would
have no problem with that. Also, if they are going
to be in this game as the game goes on,
being on the road, obviously the home home team has
the advantage, especially the way Florida is playing, So yeah,
that may be the way they attack it.
Speaker 1: Carl, what do you think first play, first period?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see it. Uh. I wouldn't want to
talk anybody off of taking DLA kings if they like it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: My lean on Florida is is just based on the
fact that you know they're coming back there. They're starting
to play I think better as a team. I look
at like some of their analytics and they seem to
be getting better. Yeah, So you know, with that said, there,
you know, this is a team that's they won back
to back Cups. They haven't lost players. They have lost
players to injuries. But at the end of the day,
they're gonna position themselves. They don't need to win the division,
they don't need to win the Atlantic, they don't need
to finish second, and they just need to make the playoffs.
And this team will make a run to the Stanley
Cup again because they have guys in that dressing room
who've been there the last couple of years. Last three
years they've been to the to the Cup finals. So
with that said, we'll see what comes of it. But
I expect them to be definitely be a bet on team,
and the price just seems low. But if Bobrovski was
in goal, Brian, would you think, Andrew would you think
if Pebroski was in goal tonight, that the line is
probably at least ten cents higher, fifteen cents maybe.
Speaker 1: I think Florida is one of the teams you can
probably classify that it makes a difference I know, Brian,
you said you don't really measure the goalies as much
as you prior years, but I think that Florida probably
is one of the teams. Both Florida teams, you know, Karen,
the Panthers and the Bolts are probably a two team.
Would you agree, Brian? Like this team and specific I.
Speaker 3: Look at two different things, goals against average and save percentage.
Goals against average, your better goalers are less than three.
Save percentage, your better goalies are less than nine or
more than nine ninety percent or better. Bobrowski's got a
zero point eight eight seven, so even though his goals
against strong two point eight, he the drop off isn't
isn't that much to me? And in Forestburg, as was
mentioned earlier, he's got a little bit less. He's got
a zero point eight three or zero eight nine to three,
but he's got a goal against average at two point
eight two, which is basically the same as Pebrowski. So
I don't I don't think it makes much difference here
in this one. But it's a good point that if
if if you like la, I would add that first spirit.
I think that's probably a pretty good bet.
Speaker 1: And car makes a really good point about the the
Florida Panthers, the players, Like it's starting to get to
that time now where you know Matthew Kachuck is going
to be an Olympian. It almost feels like he's been
out just so perfectly in time to make the Olympics.
But when we're looking at futures right now, Like, guys,
it's been so cool to watch, and I know I've
talked about it a lot, but it's cool for us
to mention here on the show how close the entire
league is overall, but specifically that Atlantic Division. How crazy
it is, Like there was a possibility yesterday And you
guys know, obviously I follow Montreal all the closest. If
they won their game yesterday, they could have been first
in the division. If they lost, which they did, if
everything else went accordingly, they actually could have got out
of a playoff spot. That's how crazy thing is. So
think about it. Could Shuck is going to be back,
and then Barkov could come back for the playoffs. But
all of this stuff being considered, Like Caren, you're spot
on with that they're looking better, their metrics look good,
and the eye tests, not just the metrics the eye
test of watching the Panthers games, they just look like
a better team. So what's funny is you look at
the Atlantic right now. Are the Red Wings going to
sustain what they're doing? Guys, I don't know. I don't know.
And then of course you look at this Bolts team,
you look at the habs, you look at some of
the like the Bruins. Nobody saw this coming from the Bruins,
but they're able to do it right now, so we'll see.
But the Panthers are coming and they're just heating up
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Speaker 2: I blame Lawrence somehow, some way, He's responsible for for this.
So it uh bright before we get to this New
Jersey and Vegas game. So yesterday I went out to
grab a quick bite, a quick bite in a brew
and watch the first period of the Leaves game. A
couple of blocks from my place, there's like a wild
wings and I go there and I send Andrew a
picture because they put this picture up on the screen
and I don't have the image to show you, guys,
but it is a question for you, and Andrew. I
could not believe they listed the five worst teams in
overtime and shootout games, and from left to right, these
are the teams. The Saint Louis Blues oh and seven
when a game goes to overtime, the Pittsburgh Penguins with
that talent that they have as well too, one and
nine in overtime, the Chicago Blackhawks with badard of course,
one in six, the Washington Capitals one and four, and
the Colorado Avalanche two and seven. So these teams, if
they haven't played each other in a game that's gone
to overtime, these teams are combined five and thirty three
in overtime. If there is ever a sign that three
on three in a shootout is a skills competition, and
there's a tremendous luck involved five and thirty three. When
you have Pittsburgh in there, you have Washington in there
with some good shootouts specialists, and the Colorado Avalanche unbelievable.
Any thoughts on that, guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vegas was that way until they got Mark Stone
back too. They had lost I believe seven other first eight.
And when you look at these teams when it comes
to playoff time, the first thing I do is I
get rid of every overtime out, every every game that
went overtime, because you're not going to get that in
the playoffs. So just look at how the teams did
in the regular season for the first three periods, and
you could tell how good the teams are. And you
had mentioned some teams like Colorado being that bad or
at some of these others. Can you imagine Colorado and
the games they're not going to go to overtime in
the playoffs? That could this could go down as one
of the greatest seasons in NHL history for that team.
And uh yeah, you got to look at every team individually.
And my wife and I when we when we see
a game going to overtime, we look at each other.
We got ship, we're dead now. But they had been
able to survive in the last week or so with
those whereas in the week before they didn't. So we'll
see how it goes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's nuts. Don Buster talked about it
last year about like getting so unlucky, and I was
the same last year as well. To our games when
they went to overtime, our teams would lose, Like, look
at what it's done to Buster. Would you'd find it
hard to believe the guy's only twenty five years old,
But look what all those ot losses have done to
that guy. He looks like he's seventy. But Andrew, Andrew,
you're gonna love this because you're a young guy. So
this is a bit of a warning for you. I
just gonna mention this and then Brian, we're gonna go
to the New Jersey Devils in Vegas. Is at the
bar yesterday, Brian, I sit down and I ordered some
some wings and a cors Light, and a guy sits
down beside me and he just starts chatting and he's like, yeah,
it's my anniversary tonight. I'm like, oh, hey, congratulations, happy anniversary. Goes,
where's your wife goes, She's at home. This guy, it's
his anniversary and he's at the bar having drinks while
his wife is at home. Andrew, do not do that
with your better half. Whatever you do, Andrew, do not
do that with your better half, or you are gonna
be sleep on the coach. We've lost Andrew. He's either
gone for a coffee or I'm not sure anyways, Brian.
With that said, New Jersey, Oh look look who here?
Speaker 3: The world is treating Andrew pretty bad today.
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you no, no, I just know when
Karen is going to talk to me for a while
and hours to disappear if I.
Speaker 2: Set settle down there, Don Johnson, Brian Vegas one eighty
three the New Jersey Devils plus one fifty totals hits
here at five.
Speaker 1: And a half.
Speaker 2: Where are you going with this one?
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it's somewhat of a quick revenge
game for New Jersey as Vegas shut him out at
home three to nothing. I believe it was a second
back to back shutout losses at home for New Jersey.
I still have some concerns about the New Jersey offense,
although three to the last four games they put up
four goals, so maybe they're starting to learn how to
play together, similar to with Florida in that regard without
some good players, but Vegas is a team that plays
better when they're behind. And there is an article there's
a guy that follow in Vegas, sin Bin. I believe
it's Sinbin on Twitter and he broke it down. He said,
you know, when Vegas is tied or winning, their odds
are scoring the next goal are lesser than if Vegas
gives up a goal. And I've seen that a lot,
because for a long time this year, Vegas would give
up the first goal of the game and we're playing
from behind, and they would play from behind the entire game,
and sometimes they couldn't get over the hump. Other times
they were able to get that quick goal. But if
I'm playing this one, I'm looking at New Jersey early
because they did get shut out. But they are scoring
a little bit more now and Vegas does not score
a lot of goals the first goals at home there
as good as Vegas is, they've been playing from come behind,
come from behind all year long. To score either the
first goal or Jersey in the first period would be
the way I would look at this game. It's more
important for Jersey to get on the get on the
board than Vegas is, because Vegas knows they had that defense.
New Jersey's defense is still pretty good, but they're the
team more in need than Vegas is. Right now, keep
in mind Vegas has been home for a long time
and then they've gone on the road and had the
successful road trip first game back. Obviously, we've talked about
that in the past. So yeah, I'm looking for New
Jersey early on a way to play them either first
period or to score first if that's available, something that
in that range in this matchup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting here. Guys like no he shared, no,
sorry not he's shared. No hughes Meyer away from the team,
and then you've got some potential stuff here with the
Golden Knights, but two power plays that overly, even without
some top guys, I can respect some pace that these
guys play with. It's pretty good. And it's kind of
funny because you guys know that theory. I love the
office shutout type of theory, and which is kind of
funny because this is it's not like it's the next game,
so to speak, but it's the next time these teams
are meeting, you know, as we just talked about. So
it's kind of interesting that way. It's like, well, it's
not like it was two months ago. It was just
on the road trip the Vegas just participated in. But
it's also how fresh is that in the mind of
the New Jersey Devils. How much do they care? How
pissed off are they? You know, I think across all sports,
you know, all leagues, no matter who you are. I
know when I was growing up playing sports, there were
certain teams I hated more than others. You know, remember that,
Oh man, that game I had against this team. You know,
I didn't play very well, and I think that that
could be the case for New Jersey. So I think
looking at this, maybe you could look towards the play,
like Brian said, New Jersey first goal or potentially a
goal in first ten minutes, something like that, to see
a sense of urgency. Also, Karm, I'm not sure if
you had a chance to look at it, but it's
kind of fun sometimes to look at, you know, the
past numbers for the x G and I think when
I look at that past game, there was some decent
goaltending there, and I know we haven't seen more consistent
goaltending here, but I know that I've talked about this
in the past, but I just love the idea when
teams play each other twice in a short period of time,
and there's a lot of times we see one game
go under, one game go over, not as much like
it's like we got we know guys. Rapid revenge doesn't
always mean revenge. Must win, doesn't always mean will win.
But I do think that teams don't like, you know,
getting embarrassed by the same team twice. And so the
Devils are dealing with injuries. But good teams have depth. Here,
karm it's kind of interesting to look at, like who
can be the secondary options that can step up for
the New Jersey Devils.
Speaker 2: They're gonna need one. The good news is I think
the Peshi returns. He's he was on the team that traveled.
He was in the skate in full contact gear. So
he returns to the lineup for the Devils, which is
a big obviously a big plus for them. They got
to get back Jack Hughes Andrew. I did some deeper
diving into this because I was looking at to what, man,
it always looks like I'm crooked there. I was doing
some deep diving into today's pod play, which I'll talk
about later. But if you want to talk about how
one player out of the lineup on a team that
normally doesn't score a ton of goals can hurt you.
Jack Hughes is the perfect example. You know, he played
the first seventeen He played what seventeen seventeen games this season, Andrew,
and the team scored fifty eight goals, so they were
averaging three point four to one goals per game with
Jack Hughes in the lineup. In the sixteen games that
he has missed, they've scored thirty nine goals two point
four to four goals per game, a drop off of
nearly a full goal for nineteen goals less that they've scored,
and he has ten goals and ten assists on the season,
twenty goal contributions. It pretty much matches up and shows
you that they haven't replaced a Jack Hughes. You can
juggle the lines the way you want. They need him
back into that lineup, so we'll see what happens. Of
all the injuries I have seen players miss, the one
that gets me and I understand it a finger injury,
in a freak finger injury, Andrew, as you mentioned, I
think on previous shows, I get it. The hands are
the most important part of that shot. Sometimes as far
as accuracy goes, so next man up mentality. I don't
think it's really been there for New Jersey, the replace
replace a guy or a fine secondary score. And I
don't think it's been there for New Jersey either, And
that's what makes this Eastern Conference up for grabs. I
think the West is going to come down to three
teams at the end of the season, maybe possibly four,
but I think it's Colorado, Dallas and the Vegas Golden
Knights are the three teams that are going to battle
for who makes it to the Stanley Cup Finals. The
East is wide open. Any of the eight teams or
a couple of teams sitting outside of the playoff line
right now could represent this Eastern Conference because I think
in a seven game series, there is no one dominant
team right now in the Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1: Andrew, it's just extremely competitive, and like from a future's perspective,
it's hard right now to look at taking one of
the favorites there really is. I mean, you guys, you
can never really count out a team right now from
somewhere warm you know, Vegas, Tampa, Florida, all those teams.
I mean, obviously Vegas isn't in the East but yeah,
shout out to all the non tax teams, Brian that
are I know you love that argument. I know you
love that argument. But you know what, Tampa Bay guys,
I think they've seen the success Florida ahead and they're like, hey, guys,
don't forget about us. And then everybody else in the
league is like, screw you, Florida teams. We want somebody
else besides these Florida based teams to start winning. But
I guess my point is is that, like I think
that you take a look at a metropolitan team like
the Devils or whoever for a future because look at
what the Metro has done lately. Guys like Washington last
year they beat Montreal in the first round, then they
just get Wax in the second round, you know. And
you look at Carolina, they've been good every single year.
They go to the playoffs and they're not able to
get over that hump. So maybe they could be a
pretty good idea to take a look at that division
because they've gotten a lot better. So we'll see go ahead.
Speaker 3: Bright just want to point out that there's fifteen sixteen
teams in the NHL that have more victories in the
Vegas Golden Knights because they go to overtime so often,
and they picked up that one point. I would say
Minnesota is a team that can win it all coming
out of the West also.
Speaker 1: And they too.
Speaker 2: There's nothing more disheartening than you have money on a team.
You're watching the game on TV and it goes to
overtime and I think I talked to Brian about this.
The Vegas Golden Knights one and then they flash up
on the screen. The biggest Golden Knights are oh and
six games that have gone to overtime. I'm like, you
gotta be kidding me. Come on, man, it is just.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's a crap when you get to overtime. I
enjoy I like the three on three is, but when
it started off, when guys were just going back and forth,
it was fun. Now they're just limiting their possessions, don't
turn it over, and it's not the fun that it
was when they originally planned.
Speaker 1: It on three And you know what, I cover a
junior hockey team where I live and like it's the
same thing. Like it's a possession thing. The players are
afraid to lose possession. So if you gave me a shot,
count for overtime, I would bet the under over is
like two and a half. It's pretty much like the
third shot of overtime ends up being a goal because
it's like they don't shoot it until they have like
the perfect chance possible, or like a two to on
to zero breakaway, because they don't want to lose possession,
which can be a little bit frustrating. All right, Speaking
of frustrated, I bet you Winnipeg Jets fans are a
bit frustrated because after the season they had last year,
they look old, they look slow, and they look like
they might not make the playoffs. This division, the Central Division,
is pretty competitive as well. I mean, we can talk
about every division being competitive, but I don't really know
if one is more than the other right now, guys,
because a lot of them are so competitive and a
lot of these teams have positive records on the year.
The Winnipeg Jets taken on the Saint Louis Blues carm
This team has some ground to make up to be
fiery coming into this matchup. What do you think is
the move here against this Blues team.
Speaker 2: I think if the Jets, honestly, I have to believe
the Jets are going to be better, especially in the
second half of the season. They get back probably the
most important part of that team in Connor Hellibuck, and
he's going to get a lot of starts in the
second half of the season once we hit it. And
that's mainly because they have points to make up. But
when you look at the games they have coming up,
this is one in which they need to go into
Saint Louis and come out with two points. They absolutely
need to go. I don't want to call it a
must win when we're thirty five games into the season.
But after this game they play in a couple of days,
they have to go to Colorado, who have only I
think lost in regulation, well once or twice in thirty
four games, an unbelievable number. Then they play a couple
of nights later against Utah, return home to play Minnesota,
who are playing better and who have a goalie who's
pretty good by his own measure. In Wallstead, they get
the Edmonton Oilers, the Detroit Red Wings, the Toronto Maple Leafs,
the Ottawa Senators, Vegas Golden Knights, Edmonton Oilers, the La Kings.
Do you see any easy teams? And all of those
ones that I've mentioned you could say Detroit, but I don't.
I don't think so, because Detroit are winning games right now,
no matter how they're doing it, they're winning games. This
is one in which they have to win this game
minus one fifty one. I don't want to lay a
dollar fifty one though, But if Connor Hallibuck is confirmed
for this game, and it's one of those ones where
I might just split it up, might take, you know,
try and take like the puck line and and the
money line and bring that down a little bit, kind
of like the Dave Cocone one where you turn it
into like a minus one with very low viig. God
blessed for that, for that lesson that he gave me
in this one. But I just have no faith in
the Saint Louis Blues right now. If you ask me
that question, what ten days ago, I think I'm puck time,
I'm sad. I'm like, I think the Blues are turning
it around. Boy was I wrong. That's pie in the face,
Brian Andrew. I want to go next.
Speaker 3: I'll go next year, completely correct, and the linesmakers and
the betting public have finally finally caught up with the
Saint Louis Blues, and I still wouldn't want the Blues
here even at that outrageous number. You pointed out that
the Jets the Jeff schedule, They've got their goalie back.
This is a team that had a lot of talent.
They were there all year long last year, fall apart
in the playoffs. They tend to be doing that lately
a lot. They're a very good regular season team. They've
only been off scored by one goal on the season,
or as Saint Louis has been off scored by thirty seven,
by far the worst in the league, and that's despite
playing two more home games in the road games. I
want a part of St. Louis here if I'm playing
on laying it with Winnipeg, and you talked about the
schedule coming up, the players know that. The players know
that this is a game that they have to have. I
think this is a pretty good play here on Winnipeg,
even though yes, I've been fanning Saint Louis all this
time and making all this money on it. They they're
making it pay for it today with the Jets. But
that's the only way I would look at this game.
Speaker 1: I kind of like the under in this game, guys,
that's kind of the angle I'm looking for. You know.
I just think that we've seen spots of the Blues
having some offense it's coming gone. We've seen the Jets,
you know, give up chances. We've seen them not get
the best goaltending while hellabuck was gone. But I just think, look,
I opened the segment by talking about old and slow
is what this Winnipeg team looks like. I just think
that they're incapable right now of winning first of four
first to five wins. I have a feeling that this
is going to be a very dragged out, boring type
of game. So I kind of lean towards the under.
You can pick a team that you think might win,
take their opponent under their team total.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Something tells me this one will lack some excitement. So
we'll see. But I just think that when when you're
when you're trying to look for some you know, some momentum,
when you're a team like Toronto maybe, or you're a
team like Colorado. I guess Toronto doesn't really work. But
when your team, you know that has offensive prowess, you
you maybe look for it with with pace and goals.
But when you're a team like Winnipeg, I think the
best thing that you can look for is defense. They'll
probably try and do that as long as they can.
But yeah, Brian, the price is interesting to look at.
And I get it with you Karam saying the same thing,
like you got to try and find a different way
to play it, right, And so for me, I kind
of just lean towards the under and this one. And
I gave out the under and the one they had
against the Senators, And the funny thing is is they
ended up losing that game. Like you know, they kept
that as an under when they can, but too the
XG wasn't even that good, so it favored the over.
So we'll see. But I still don't think this team
is playing how they want to be playing. I think
long term, in order to have any success, this team
has to be an underteam. I think I believe that.
Speaker 2: You guys know, you guys know that if this game
goes to overtime. After me reading off those stats at
the Saint Louis Blues are oh to seven in games
that have gone to overtime that they are going to
win tonight in overtime. If that game goes to overtime
either well, they either get their first one or they
become the or solidify their worst record in OT and
go to to eight in overtime and shootouts. But with
that said, Andrew, everyone is and Kurt in the chat
wanted to know he's late coming to watch the show.
Whether I gave Brian the business on the show about
the New York Isanders Detroit Red Wings straight. No, I
didn't skirt, and it's mainly because my day in the
NHL wasn't very good. So you know what I mean.
I can I can't flex when I have nothing to
flex with. But with that said, Andrew, you you've promised
us a same game partly winner. Now you actually Andrew
didn't actually promise us. I am putting him under the
gun here and saying that he promised us give us
a winner, Andrew Carl.
Speaker 1: I have four picks that you guys can cipher from.
But overall, this is the best prop game on the board,
and by no coincidence, it's a very big coincidence. It's
the game with a six and a half is the
total we've got that We've got the Utah and we
have Detroit in this one. We've got all players to
get at least one point to brink it, Raymond, Sergchev
and Schmaltz, that equals plus four hundred some books plus
three nine and uh, you know makes you shop round
with these guys, because I'll tell you what. When I
look at these player props, some of the websites that
I use, and on my show The pre Scout, I've
been talking about the hof app, which I use quite
a bit. It will actually tell you when you're looking
at a prop and you're breaking it down, Okay, this
book has this price. This book has this price. And
I'll tell you what guys like if we talk about
on money lines and totals to shop round for the
best price. I can only imagine, you know, the money
people are losing or you know, not saving, Like talking
about a goal scorer, Like there's goal scoring props that
are plus two twenty five at some books and plus
one sixty one seven. It is a massive difference. So
to brink it, Raymond, Cirgachev and Schmaltz, I like those.
And here here's the sprinkle, guys. And this one, this
one might make me look a little bit crazy, but
here's the sprinkle. This is kind of the bargain bin
special to quote Alex b and Ian Cameron plus plus
seven to fifty Mikel Sergachev goal. For whatever reason, Detroit
gives up the bottom are the top five most goals
against defensemen, and Sirgachev is one of the best defensemen
on UTAH. But his goal prop is plus seven fifty.
So that's kind of the angle world of taking a
look at I haven't been doing as many shot props.
If you guys want to sprinkle on Cirgachev shot props,
you can, But that's why I decided to take him
in the point prop plus seven to fifty for Sergachev
to get a goal. It's you know, it's one of
those ones where you're just playing the matchup here, guys.
But I do like that game, and I think if
you're playing props today, that's probably a game you want
to look at and really quick. Not to go long,
I apologize, but that Vegas Detroit game. Watch the lineup
information because if Ikele and those guys are in, then
it affects the props. If they're out, you can make
some money with props on the guys that will have
to step up, and you guys know how it goes
as far as that's concerned. Back over to U karm YEP.
Speaker 2: Hopefully Mitch Marner gets some points because I did give
them props yesterday when I was talking about Austin Matthews Andrew,
I got so much flak from my friends. I'm surrounded
by leaf fans here. Unfortunately, just I dropped that video
clip into a bunch of WhatsApp groups and they were
after me, Like, these guys just they don't get it.
My friends who are fans and this isn't two people
in the chat or people watching this video later who
are Leaf fans. My friends who are they're their their luck.
Like reality with the Leafs just does not exist with
these guys. They seem to think that there are always
one player or two players away from winning the Stanley Cup,
and they are far from it. I made a prediction
yesterday to them, and I said that Austin Matthews will
not be in a Leaf jersey at the end of
next season. He's either they're going to trade him. I
think at this point the Toronto Aple Leafs understand that
they don't have a team that can compete. Their coach,
blew A gasket on behind the bench. Andrew, I'm not
sure if you saw that with Craig Berube. He absolutely
blew a gasket. But anyways, speaking of blowing gaskets, let's
not blow one with this pod play. Today's pod play
yesterday was a winner with the Anaheim Columbus game over.
We are going to take an under tonight and we're
going to the Vegas Golden Knights and New Jersey Devil's game.
As I mentioned, Jack Hughes out of the lineup. This
team is averaging one goal less per game from three
forty one down to two forty four. The Devils are
seventeen fifteen and one to the under, eleventh best in
the NHL. The Vegas Golden Knights sixteen thirteen and two
also a profitable to the under. They are ninth overall
under five and a half minus one fifteen three to one.
Final for the Vegas Golden Nights tonight. That would work
for everybody. So let's try and hit this pod play
and get that total up. We are up thirty percent
on the year from our starting bank role. Let's keep
it rolling, boys.
Speaker 1: The pod shout out to the pod play Karen, you
keep on rolling. One play a day. You told us
at the start of the year you're gonna show people
how it's done, and that's what you've done with that
play of the day. So that's the late night game
as well. Guys, it's late night game. Brian. What do
you have going at today? Wagers Hockey told me it
was more of a quieter day in hockey, is it?
Or what's going on?
Speaker 3: Yes yesterday we stunk, but I do have a big
four percent play going and I was able to squeak
it in with my lousy internet here in Las Vegas.
We can't get the the King package in like they
got in Toronto with Carmine. He's always blaming everybody else's internet.
But the site does have some problems. But I was
able to get a four percent playoff in the NHL.
I've got two plays in college basketball right now. Been
really nice rounding college basketball, and I'm sure I'll have more.
But as was talked about, they're having some back end
issues on the site. Hopefully you can get the places that
are up there now, but if not, come back in
an hour or so and somemorrow tomorrow we'll be up
there and uh, look at that. Get a lot better
day than we all had yesterday. So we gratch on
four percent yesterday with Andrew, but the rest of us
didn't didn't have it, And let's see where can get
you some interest.
Speaker 2: Today, Brian. That's a great thing about this show, Brian, UH,
and shows in general on the wager Talk TV platform,
is that UH, people aren't tuning in every day to
watch guys flex smack themselves on the back. We know
that this is a marathon, it's not a sprint. We're
going to have days like we did. We fess up
to it, we move on and UH and hopefully at
least some of our thought process in the games that
we cover, like the three that we did today, people
can sort of get uh a feeling for what we
do to get to the end part, which is what
we like in the game and how we got there,
and if that helps them become better handicappers, then that's
all that really matters at the end of the day.
So we're not stuffing paid plays down your throat. But
that said, Andrew, I have nothing up at wager Talk.
I will have some plays up early afternoon, but for me,
that's it. I'm hoping for the pod play and I'll
send it over to you to let us know where
you have going and close it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, caarm So I did five percent analysis last night
before I got the write up published. I fell asleep
after doing the analysis. Then I wake up this morning,
have an appointment. I go to post the analysis all
morning and the server is down, so you guys will
have to wait. But at some way, shape or form,
I will have a five percent play going today and
when it does work, I have a promo code already
set up which is save fifteen, so you guys can
use that to get fifteen dollars off the play, or
you can go with Brian Carmine myself three day NHL
Hat Trick Special forty nine bucks. One five percent play
costs thirty five bucks, one regular play twenty five bucks,
and you can get three days all plays for forty
nine dollars. And you know, we say this all the time, guys,
and we're not trying to be these people, but like,
it's just sometimes tiring to look across social media when
you see people that it just seems like they always win.
I promise you these people are not winning ninety five
percent of their bets. Because if not, if they did,
they would be on an island somewhere, having someone serve
them drinks and just cater to every need and living
the best life they possibly can. They are not winning
ninety nine percent of the time because they tell Twitter
that they are, so just be careful, you know. I
see a lot of people talk about people on Twitter
and different handicappers off. I'm not trying to be that guy,
and I never wanted to be that guy. I always
try and be a positive person and a nice guy
on these shows, but it can be real frustrating because
this industry is turning into a lot of you know,
if you don't say that you hit seventy percent winners,
somehow you're the loser here. But we're just trying to
be honest. So love doing shows with these two guys,
Carlon and Brian. Always a fun time and it is
kind of a hidden gem of a slate in the
NHL today. Let's make it a good one, guys. Let's
bounce back. Thanks for watching, guys. We'll see you tomorrow,
same time, same place, right here on puck Time.