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Speaker 1: NHL picks and best bets here on puck Time. Welcome

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to wager Talk TV. Andrew, Carmine and Brian with you.

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We got Brian here for the full show. Here, we're

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gonna break down a handful of games together. You guys

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know what Wednesdays are all about. They're a little bit

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quieter in the NHL, but you know what, it's a

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pretty decent slate. We got some beatable games, some betable games,

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and I actually have a big play going up today

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if our system would cooperate and start working on the

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back end, because I have the analysis ready and rocking,

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but it's not working. But you guys will get that

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huge play soon in the back end and you guys

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can grab that at wager Talk. But let's bring in

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the boys here. Carm Brian, Good morning to you guys.

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Karen on Wednesday. But how are.

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Speaker 2: You get some better Wi Fi? Maybe that the problem

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is your WiFi? Yeah, working perfectly fine for me. But yeah,

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an overall even day for me, although NHL was the

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one down down part of the day, three percent winner

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with the Anaheim and Columbus game going over the total,

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which is also your pod play. The five dollar customer

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appreciation back to back weeks where I've lost that five

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dollars customer appreciation play, So I apologize for that. It

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was a game in which I can't even make an

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excuse for it, and I was talking to Brian before

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the show. I can't make an excuse for it because

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even the postgame analytics and I always love to look

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at that, everything was in uh was in San Jose's

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favor against Calgary. The only thing I did get out

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of that game was closing line value because it was

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one point thirty when I played it and released it,

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and it closed that you know one somewhere around there

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one forty seven. So a lot of people were on

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the what looked to be a good situation for the

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Calgary Flames that turned into a very bad situation. So

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I apologize for that, guys. I will get it next

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week for you guys. And if you missed that code,

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because a couple of people did email in that they

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missed the code for the NHL, sorry for the NFL

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fifty percent off coupon. Even for the people that did

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not buy the play, it is NFL fifty. NFL fifty

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will get you fifty percent off of that play. But

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looking at the games last night, it was a crazy night, Andrew,

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as you said of NHL hockey, I was on wager

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Talk today. At least I will toot my horn and

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not want and say that I did give out on

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wager Talk today. The Edmonton Oilers team total over three

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and a half against Pittsburgh. What a game with those

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two goalies end goal Stuart Skinner and Tristan Jarry into

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that one. I don't think either one of them made

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a difference last night. We'll get Brian's thoughts on it.

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Brian's gonna talk not only the New Jersey Devils, but

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they as Golden Knights. But because Brian is the only

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guest today, we brought him on early, so he'll talk

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about the La Kings in Florida if he has an

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opinion on it, and then the Jets and Saint Louis Blues.

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That's how we're going to finish it off the same

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game parlay from Andrew where he has guaranteed me a

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winner today. So I am so excited about that. The

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pod play, we are at our highest total right now

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for the pod play at sixty five fifty eight, so

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we're going to try and keep that. Going with that, said, Brian,

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how was your knight?

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Speaker 1: Brian, I didn't think he was going to stop. Man,

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guy makes fun of Buster there for talking so much.

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Holy shit, I didn't think he was going to stop.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but I'm not talking about I'm not talking about

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construction or picking avocados or working in the tequila plant.

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I am talking facts facts. I'm showing transparency that my

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play was about as useless as Austin Matthews has been

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all season long. So anyways, but that said, Austin Matthews

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must have saw yesterday's video because I think he did

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score yesterday the third period, but then he could have

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had the empty neck goal and he screwed me over.

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Speaker 1: So me too, me too? What's oh?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I finally get my chance?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Brian?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Man? You know you said you were waiting for

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Andrew to give you a solid winner. If you watched

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any of us yesterday on the show, Wader talk is

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very very they tell you what's going on, very transparent.

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And I went over yesterday's plays and I finally put

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out a play. On every single hockey game, I would

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have lost them all, and it so happened. The four

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guys who are on the show yesterday all lost and

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the guys that had success or guys that weren't on

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the show. And so I gotta apologize to everybody who

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watched the show yesterday because if you took any of

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our information, for the most part, it was a bad

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night for you and it was bad for me. I

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lost both my plays and the islanders on the show.

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Why do you want nothing? I thought that we were

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in a really good shape. Didn't happen. I had washedot

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that there was a lot of value on Washington. They

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get shut out on the road. Yeah, I guarantee we

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will provide more winners for you today than what we

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did yesterday, because you'll have those kind of days once

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in a while. And I'm glad that we can get

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on here and talk about it because we want to

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be as open minded and as as transparent as we

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possibly can, and which makes us unlike a lot of

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the other places out there. And I'll just leave it

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at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know we Brian. Then I'm gonna go to Andrew,

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of course, because you know, he's got to get his

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words in today. It is kind of like getting steps in,

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you know, on the treadmill. Andrew's got to get his

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words in or else he loses his vocal cords. But

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with that said, some you know, I always use that analogy.

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idea is we are supposed to be the hammer a

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lot more times than we are the nail. So with

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that said, let's let's go to the tallest guy on

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the panel, the nail himself. But he has been hammering

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and even hammering the college plays as well too, mister mckinnis.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, guys, we talked about this a lot.

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Yesterday my best bet hit, my only four percent play

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of my card and everything else lost, and it's like

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so frustrating because we all know how it goes. Like

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there's days we've had where you like a bunch of plays,

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like I think it was last Saturday or maybe on

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Sunday where I liked a bunch of plays and I

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only gave out one or two, and I'm like walking

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around the house. My girlfriend's like, why are you so

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pissed off? Like you went to and oh, And I'm like,

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cause I could have gone like six or seven and zero,

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out that many plays. And then of course yesterday I'm

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on leafs team total New York Rangers, who, by the way,

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Karen was right, they're just cursed at Madison Square Garden.

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I don't know why I went against them or went

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on them. Point being is, it's one of those funny

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things where like the best bet of the day that

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I advertised at the website hit, but everything else lost.

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and one, it's a great thing, but you don't want

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the four or five percent to be the loser. And

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then sometimes you go one and four, but if you

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want to hit one, you want to. So anyway, the

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one that I hit was the good one to hit

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at least, but it was still a tough day. So

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we're in bounce back mode. And I always say this,

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these are the days that you want to make money

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in the NHL. We know the busy days are good.

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It's like Andy Lang and I say, we always like

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betting the primetime games. Your laser focused on our on

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our you know props. When it's one game and one

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game only, we've got just a few games on the

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board for tonight. Let's get it going here, guys, Kings

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and Panthers. First game on the board. Let's break it down, karm.

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Speaker 2: All right, one forty four for the Florida Panthers plus

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one eighteen for the LA Kings. Total sits here at

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five and a half. And I'm seeing as far as goaltending,

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we have a confirmation on the goaltender for Florida. It's

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going to be Oh God, here we go, Danil Tarasov.

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Let's hope I pronounced that correctly. And then the goalie

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for the other one who's expected Andrew And this guy

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costs me a lot of money early in the season,

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Anton Forsburg for the LA Kings, Well, there was injuries

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to that team. He was in goal. I didn't make

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any money bet in the LA Kings early. I'm not

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sure if the team sucked or it was just the

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goaltending sucked, but I lost money there in that one.

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you want to look at the toll here because you

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start to look at two teams that are using the

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number two goalies. But in Washington and Minnesota game I

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had a very small play on the over in that one,

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the backup goalies and goal and I couldn't get anything

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from Washington, just a goal. Washington get me a push,

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just a goal. There's nothing more frustrating when you have

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a total that one team does all the scoring gets five.

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the Anaheim Ducks where I had over six and a

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half and I had needed Utah to get every one

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of those goals because the Ducks did nothing in that one.

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Andrew I still leaned the Florida in this one. I

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get it. The Elli Kings are a very good road team,

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and I think they're starting to turn the corner and

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play better. But this is one of those ones where

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the Florida Panthers. I normally I would fade a team

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in their first game back from a long road trip,

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but the first game back for them was essentially the

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game that they played against Tampa Bay in Tampa Bay,

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so they've been back in the Sunshine State. They could

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have very well stayed in their own homes prior to

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that game. So with that said, there's a Florida team

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that is starting to slowly move up those standings, starting

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to get better. They're going to get some help when

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Matthew Tishuck comes back, and then we'll see if they

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do a little bit of dancing around that long term

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injury reserve with Barkov and get another player in there,

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because it's going to be there's gonna be a lot

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of guys available. I think prior to Christmas, the Christmas

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freeze on the twenty third where you can't trade anymore,

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I think it's a twenty third give me Florida in

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this one minus one forty four, even with terrosovn goal. Brian,

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your thoughts, Well, you mentioned it is the first game

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back home, and yeah, they probably when they left Dallas

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on Saturday, they probably went back home and then went

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over to Tampa on Monday.

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Speaker 3: But did you watch that game. That is the most

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intense rival rate I have seen. He goes all the

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way back to sprint training or the exhibition games they

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head back to back asphabition games. Everybody's getting suspended, everybody's

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getting beating the crap out of each other the entire time.

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even though there was only two fighting calls and it

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was in the third period. It was a very physical game.

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And so here they go. They come back home after

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a real strong road trip, which the only loss they

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had was in Anaheim. We're not in Anaheim and against

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the Avalanche in the second of a back to back.

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Florida's playing great hockey right now, but they're going up

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against the team right now, and the Kings were playing

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terrible hockey. But I don't want Florida because of the

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way they just came off of Tampa Bay. They shut

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out Dallas, Florida nothing on the road. That's the hell

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of an accomplishment. Then they played Tampa Bay beat them

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five to two in a game that they just dominated.

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And they've got to be feeling pretty good about themselves

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coming back home here playing the team in the Western

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Conference who is not playing well at all, especially offensively.

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scored like three goals in the last four games or something.

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a letdown here for the Florida Panthers and it's just

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still the same for the most part, the same guys

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that have been losing a lot during this all the

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time without the really good players that have been out

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from an injury. So I'm a little bit interested in

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the Kings here, but it's got to be a major

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letdown situation for Florida after the road trip they were.

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Speaker 2: Just on Andrew. You know, we talk about teams coming

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whatever you want to call it, in that long travel schedule,

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and you know Florida. Would you look at Florida's and

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you know they're back in Tampa and they played that

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somewhat physical game against their rivals, would you think that

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now with the backups in there. And I'm not saying

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these backups are terrible. I don't want to say that

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because the total will have moved would have moved by now.

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But do you feel like this is a spot where

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where Florida could absolutely be flat and the Kings take

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advantage of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think, like Brian said, that this is a

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rivalry that's just been unbelievable to watch. You know, one

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thing I will say from a hockey perspective about this rivalry,

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these teams are going to play shortly after Christmas again,

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and if the suspensions don't happen or the penalties don't happen,

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that next game is going to be just equally as

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chaotic as well. Like we talk about the players having

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to police the game themselves, which I always love, and

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I think any true hockey fan loves the fights and stuff.

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But that hit on Brandon Hagel was dirty and greasy.

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He got hit. He's got hush in history, and every

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single time these teams play, something dirty happens, which ends

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up resulting in the next game something dirty happening as well.

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So just from the hockey perspective, that's kind of annoying

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when you look at it, But when it comes down

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to it, I think that probably even plays into the

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factor guys even more when it comes to the letdown

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spot and the motivational spot, because you know, the LA

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game that they're coming off of, that's about as more

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of a motivating spot the Dallas Stars could have come

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off of because they just got the breaks beaten off

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them by the aforementioned Florida Panthers. So it's kind of

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interesting kind of the situation here because You've got a

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Kings team that's playing the Stars, that played a Stars

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team that came off a tough game against the very

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Florida Panthers we're talking about right now. But I think

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this could be a good spot. And the funny thing

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is looking at this matchup. Over the years, this LA

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Kings team, whether it's been on the road or at home,

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there hasn't really been much of a measured home ice

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advantage for them, Like sometimes going out on the road

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has been equally as strong for them. So I kind

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of do lean towards this. Part of me actually leans

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towards the over though, just based on Florida's offense, Like

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we've been seeing Lundell, we've been seeing Ryan Hart, we've

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been seeing Bennett, Like, these guys have started to step

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it up quite a bit a lot more. And if

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I'm going to use the urgency off a shutout angle,

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well LA didn't get shut out guys against Dallas, but

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they pretty much did. Does that angle come into play

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a little bit here? How how would you guys feel

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about an LA first period in this one? Potentially that

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urgency has to be there from them in the first period.

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And you know, Brian, if we don't if we think

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that's gonna be a flat spot for Florida. Maybe the

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flat spot comes early on.

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Speaker 3: I would firmly agree with that. If you're going to

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play them, the problem, well, let me let's just take

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a quick look at the carolines you've got. You can

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get you know, one one upwards are one thirty if

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you're looking at LA, but most places are in about

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the one twenty range. If you take a look at

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the money line in the first period, we are getting

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roughly the same. Well, no, you're get a little bit less.

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You're getting about one one ten one to five one ten,

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so you get a little bit less. But I would

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have no problem with that. Also, if they are going

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to be in this game as the game goes on,

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being on the road, obviously the home home team has

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the advantage, especially the way Florida is playing, So yeah,

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that may be the way they attack it.

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Speaker 1: Carl, what do you think first play, first period?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see it. Uh. I wouldn't want to

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talk anybody off of taking DLA kings if they like it.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: My lean on Florida is is just based on the

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fact that you know they're coming back there. They're starting

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to play I think better as a team. I look

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at like some of their analytics and they seem to

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be getting better. Yeah, So you know, with that said, there,

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you know, this is a team that's they won back

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to back Cups. They haven't lost players. They have lost

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players to injuries. But at the end of the day,

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they're gonna position themselves. They don't need to win the division,

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they don't need to win the Atlantic, they don't need

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to finish second, and they just need to make the playoffs.

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And this team will make a run to the Stanley

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Cup again because they have guys in that dressing room

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who've been there the last couple of years. Last three

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years they've been to the to the Cup finals. So

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with that said, we'll see what comes of it. But

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I expect them to be definitely be a bet on team,

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and the price just seems low. But if Bobrovski was

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in goal, Brian, would you think, Andrew would you think

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if Pebroski was in goal tonight, that the line is

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probably at least ten cents higher, fifteen cents maybe.

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Speaker 1: I think Florida is one of the teams you can

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probably classify that it makes a difference I know, Brian,

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you said you don't really measure the goalies as much

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as you prior years, but I think that Florida probably

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is one of the teams. Both Florida teams, you know, Karen,

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the Panthers and the Bolts are probably a two team.

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Would you agree, Brian? Like this team and specific I.

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Speaker 3: Look at two different things, goals against average and save percentage.

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Goals against average, your better goalers are less than three.

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Save percentage, your better goalies are less than nine or

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more than nine ninety percent or better. Bobrowski's got a

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zero point eight eight seven, so even though his goals

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against strong two point eight, he the drop off isn't

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isn't that much to me? And in Forestburg, as was

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mentioned earlier, he's got a little bit less. He's got

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a zero point eight three or zero eight nine to three,

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but he's got a goal against average at two point

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eight two, which is basically the same as Pebrowski. So

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I don't I don't think it makes much difference here

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in this one. But it's a good point that if

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if if you like la, I would add that first spirit.

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I think that's probably a pretty good bet.

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Speaker 1: And car makes a really good point about the the

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Florida Panthers, the players, Like it's starting to get to

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that time now where you know Matthew Kachuck is going

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to be an Olympian. It almost feels like he's been

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out just so perfectly in time to make the Olympics.

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But when we're looking at futures right now, Like, guys,

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it's been so cool to watch, and I know I've

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talked about it a lot, but it's cool for us

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to mention here on the show how close the entire

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league is overall, but specifically that Atlantic Division. How crazy

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it is, Like there was a possibility yesterday And you

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guys know, obviously I follow Montreal all the closest. If

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they won their game yesterday, they could have been first

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in the division. If they lost, which they did, if

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everything else went accordingly, they actually could have got out

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of a playoff spot. That's how crazy thing is. So

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think about it. Could Shuck is going to be back,

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and then Barkov could come back for the playoffs. But

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all of this stuff being considered, Like Caren, you're spot

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on with that they're looking better, their metrics look good,

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and the eye tests, not just the metrics the eye

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test of watching the Panthers games, they just look like

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a better team. So what's funny is you look at

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the Atlantic right now. Are the Red Wings going to

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sustain what they're doing? Guys, I don't know. I don't know.

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And then of course you look at this Bolts team,

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you look at the habs, you look at some of

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the like the Bruins. Nobody saw this coming from the Bruins,

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but they're able to do it right now, so we'll see.

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But the Panthers are coming and they're just heating up

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right now. I want to mention the website, guys, we

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of our plays here right now.

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Speaker 2: I blame Lawrence somehow, some way, He's responsible for for this.

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So it uh bright before we get to this New

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Jersey and Vegas game. So yesterday I went out to

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grab a quick bite, a quick bite in a brew

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and watch the first period of the Leaves game. A

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couple of blocks from my place, there's like a wild

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wings and I go there and I send Andrew a

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picture because they put this picture up on the screen

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and I don't have the image to show you, guys,

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but it is a question for you, and Andrew. I

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could not believe they listed the five worst teams in

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overtime and shootout games, and from left to right, these

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are the teams. The Saint Louis Blues oh and seven

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when a game goes to overtime, the Pittsburgh Penguins with

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that talent that they have as well too, one and

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nine in overtime, the Chicago Blackhawks with badard of course,

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one in six, the Washington Capitals one and four, and

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the Colorado Avalanche two and seven. So these teams, if

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they haven't played each other in a game that's gone

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to overtime, these teams are combined five and thirty three

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in overtime. If there is ever a sign that three

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on three in a shootout is a skills competition, and

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there's a tremendous luck involved five and thirty three. When

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you have Pittsburgh in there, you have Washington in there

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with some good shootouts specialists, and the Colorado Avalanche unbelievable.

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Any thoughts on that, guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Vegas was that way until they got Mark Stone

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back too. They had lost I believe seven other first eight.

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And when you look at these teams when it comes

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to playoff time, the first thing I do is I

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get rid of every overtime out, every every game that

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went overtime, because you're not going to get that in

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the playoffs. So just look at how the teams did

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in the regular season for the first three periods, and

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you could tell how good the teams are. And you

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had mentioned some teams like Colorado being that bad or

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at some of these others. Can you imagine Colorado and

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the games they're not going to go to overtime in

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the playoffs? That could this could go down as one

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of the greatest seasons in NHL history for that team.

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And uh yeah, you got to look at every team individually.

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And my wife and I when we when we see

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a game going to overtime, we look at each other.

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We got ship, we're dead now. But they had been

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able to survive in the last week or so with

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those whereas in the week before they didn't. So we'll

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see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's nuts. Don Buster talked about it

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last year about like getting so unlucky, and I was

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the same last year as well. To our games when

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they went to overtime, our teams would lose, Like, look

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at what it's done to Buster. Would you'd find it

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hard to believe the guy's only twenty five years old,

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But look what all those ot losses have done to

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that guy. He looks like he's seventy. But Andrew, Andrew,

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you're gonna love this because you're a young guy. So

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this is a bit of a warning for you. I

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just gonna mention this and then Brian, we're gonna go

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to the New Jersey Devils in Vegas. Is at the

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bar yesterday, Brian, I sit down and I ordered some

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some wings and a cors Light, and a guy sits

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down beside me and he just starts chatting and he's like, yeah,

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it's my anniversary tonight. I'm like, oh, hey, congratulations, happy anniversary. Goes,

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where's your wife goes, She's at home. This guy, it's

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his anniversary and he's at the bar having drinks while

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his wife is at home. Andrew, do not do that

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with your better half. Whatever you do, Andrew, do not

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do that with your better half, or you are gonna

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be sleep on the coach. We've lost Andrew. He's either

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gone for a coffee or I'm not sure anyways, Brian.

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With that said, New Jersey, Oh look look who here?

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Speaker 3: The world is treating Andrew pretty bad today.

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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you no, no, I just know when

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Karen is going to talk to me for a while

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and hours to disappear if I.

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Speaker 2: Set settle down there, Don Johnson, Brian Vegas one eighty

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three the New Jersey Devils plus one fifty totals hits

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here at five.

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Speaker 1: And a half.

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Speaker 2: Where are you going with this one?

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it's somewhat of a quick revenge

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game for New Jersey as Vegas shut him out at

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home three to nothing. I believe it was a second

477
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,440
back to back shutout losses at home for New Jersey.

478
00:25:46,839 --> 00:25:49,920
I still have some concerns about the New Jersey offense,

479
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,480
although three to the last four games they put up

480
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,039
four goals, so maybe they're starting to learn how to

481
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:59,119
play together, similar to with Florida in that regard without

482
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:05,319
some good players, but Vegas is a team that plays

483
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,119
better when they're behind. And there is an article there's

484
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,519
a guy that follow in Vegas, sin Bin. I believe

485
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:16,759
it's Sinbin on Twitter and he broke it down. He said,

486
00:26:16,839 --> 00:26:21,240
you know, when Vegas is tied or winning, their odds

487
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:25,079
are scoring the next goal are lesser than if Vegas

488
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,960
gives up a goal. And I've seen that a lot,

489
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:29,880
because for a long time this year, Vegas would give

490
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,920
up the first goal of the game and we're playing

491
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,000
from behind, and they would play from behind the entire game,

492
00:26:35,519 --> 00:26:37,880
and sometimes they couldn't get over the hump. Other times

493
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,400
they were able to get that quick goal. But if

494
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,359
I'm playing this one, I'm looking at New Jersey early

495
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,000
because they did get shut out. But they are scoring

496
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,519
a little bit more now and Vegas does not score

497
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:53,480
a lot of goals the first goals at home there

498
00:26:53,759 --> 00:26:56,880
as good as Vegas is, they've been playing from come behind,

499
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,200
come from behind all year long. To score either the

500
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,440
first goal or Jersey in the first period would be

501
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,640
the way I would look at this game. It's more

502
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,960
important for Jersey to get on the get on the

503
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,839
board than Vegas is, because Vegas knows they had that defense.

504
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,920
New Jersey's defense is still pretty good, but they're the

505
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,279
team more in need than Vegas is. Right now, keep

506
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,160
in mind Vegas has been home for a long time

507
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,680
and then they've gone on the road and had the

508
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:28,079
successful road trip first game back. Obviously, we've talked about

509
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,000
that in the past. So yeah, I'm looking for New

510
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:33,599
Jersey early on a way to play them either first

511
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,920
period or to score first if that's available, something that

512
00:27:38,319 --> 00:27:40,000
in that range in this matchup.

513
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting here. Guys like no he shared, no,

514
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,759
sorry not he's shared. No hughes Meyer away from the team,

515
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:52,759
and then you've got some potential stuff here with the

516
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:56,960
Golden Knights, but two power plays that overly, even without

517
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,680
some top guys, I can respect some pace that these

518
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,599
guys play with. It's pretty good. And it's kind of

519
00:28:02,599 --> 00:28:04,640
funny because you guys know that theory. I love the

520
00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:07,200
office shutout type of theory, and which is kind of

521
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,720
funny because this is it's not like it's the next game,

522
00:28:09,839 --> 00:28:13,240
so to speak, but it's the next time these teams

523
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:15,799
are meeting, you know, as we just talked about. So

524
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,920
it's kind of interesting that way. It's like, well, it's

525
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,839
not like it was two months ago. It was just

526
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,160
on the road trip the Vegas just participated in. But

527
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,000
it's also how fresh is that in the mind of

528
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,920
the New Jersey Devils. How much do they care? How

529
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,240
pissed off are they? You know, I think across all sports,

530
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,519
you know, all leagues, no matter who you are. I

531
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:38,400
know when I was growing up playing sports, there were

532
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,720
certain teams I hated more than others. You know, remember that,

533
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:44,160
Oh man, that game I had against this team. You know,

534
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,640
I didn't play very well, and I think that that

535
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,279
could be the case for New Jersey. So I think

536
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,079
looking at this, maybe you could look towards the play,

537
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,799
like Brian said, New Jersey first goal or potentially a

538
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,519
goal in first ten minutes, something like that, to see

539
00:28:59,519 --> 00:29:02,359
a sense of urgency. Also, Karm, I'm not sure if

540
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,519
you had a chance to look at it, but it's

541
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:06,119
kind of fun sometimes to look at, you know, the

542
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,319
past numbers for the x G and I think when

543
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:12,079
I look at that past game, there was some decent

544
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,240
goaltending there, and I know we haven't seen more consistent

545
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,559
goaltending here, but I know that I've talked about this

546
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,720
in the past, but I just love the idea when

547
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:23,559
teams play each other twice in a short period of time,

548
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:25,359
and there's a lot of times we see one game

549
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,759
go under, one game go over, not as much like

550
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:33,119
it's like we got we know guys. Rapid revenge doesn't

551
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,119
always mean revenge. Must win, doesn't always mean will win.

552
00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:38,640
But I do think that teams don't like, you know,

553
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,000
getting embarrassed by the same team twice. And so the

554
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:44,599
Devils are dealing with injuries. But good teams have depth. Here,

555
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,440
karm it's kind of interesting to look at, like who

556
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,000
can be the secondary options that can step up for

557
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:51,759
the New Jersey Devils.

558
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna need one. The good news is I think

559
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:58,799
the Peshi returns. He's he was on the team that traveled.

560
00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:01,599
He was in the skate in full contact gear. So

561
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,480
he returns to the lineup for the Devils, which is

562
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:07,400
a big obviously a big plus for them. They got

563
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,519
to get back Jack Hughes Andrew. I did some deeper

564
00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:16,519
diving into this because I was looking at to what, man,

565
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,359
it always looks like I'm crooked there. I was doing

566
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,279
some deep diving into today's pod play, which I'll talk

567
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:27,240
about later. But if you want to talk about how

568
00:30:27,279 --> 00:30:29,680
one player out of the lineup on a team that

569
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:32,559
normally doesn't score a ton of goals can hurt you.

570
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,920
Jack Hughes is the perfect example. You know, he played

571
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:41,960
the first seventeen He played what seventeen seventeen games this season, Andrew,

572
00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:45,359
and the team scored fifty eight goals, so they were

573
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,920
averaging three point four to one goals per game with

574
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:52,160
Jack Hughes in the lineup. In the sixteen games that

575
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,039
he has missed, they've scored thirty nine goals two point

576
00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:58,000
four to four goals per game, a drop off of

577
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:03,720
nearly a full goal for nineteen goals less that they've scored,

578
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,680
and he has ten goals and ten assists on the season,

579
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:12,119
twenty goal contributions. It pretty much matches up and shows

580
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:15,599
you that they haven't replaced a Jack Hughes. You can

581
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,160
juggle the lines the way you want. They need him

582
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,079
back into that lineup, so we'll see what happens. Of

583
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,880
all the injuries I have seen players miss, the one

584
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,880
that gets me and I understand it a finger injury,

585
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,039
in a freak finger injury, Andrew, as you mentioned, I

586
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:38,240
think on previous shows, I get it. The hands are

587
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:42,680
the most important part of that shot. Sometimes as far

588
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,200
as accuracy goes, so next man up mentality. I don't

589
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,440
think it's really been there for New Jersey, the replace

590
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,319
replace a guy or a fine secondary score. And I

591
00:31:53,319 --> 00:31:56,240
don't think it's been there for New Jersey either, And

592
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:00,160
that's what makes this Eastern Conference up for grabs. I

593
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,119
think the West is going to come down to three

594
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,119
teams at the end of the season, maybe possibly four,

595
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,559
but I think it's Colorado, Dallas and the Vegas Golden

596
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,039
Knights are the three teams that are going to battle

597
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,279
for who makes it to the Stanley Cup Finals. The

598
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:21,720
East is wide open. Any of the eight teams or

599
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:25,559
a couple of teams sitting outside of the playoff line

600
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,480
right now could represent this Eastern Conference because I think

601
00:32:30,839 --> 00:32:33,440
in a seven game series, there is no one dominant

602
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,960
team right now in the Eastern Conference.

603
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: Andrew, it's just extremely competitive, and like from a future's perspective,

604
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,559
it's hard right now to look at taking one of

605
00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:45,000
the favorites there really is. I mean, you guys, you

606
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,839
can never really count out a team right now from

607
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,880
somewhere warm you know, Vegas, Tampa, Florida, all those teams.

608
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,440
I mean, obviously Vegas isn't in the East but yeah,

609
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,599
shout out to all the non tax teams, Brian that

610
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,279
are I know you love that argument. I know you

611
00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:07,039
love that argument. But you know what, Tampa Bay guys,

612
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,359
I think they've seen the success Florida ahead and they're like, hey, guys,

613
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,200
don't forget about us. And then everybody else in the

614
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,880
league is like, screw you, Florida teams. We want somebody

615
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,599
else besides these Florida based teams to start winning. But

616
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:22,000
I guess my point is is that, like I think

617
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:24,319
that you take a look at a metropolitan team like

618
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:28,599
the Devils or whoever for a future because look at

619
00:33:28,599 --> 00:33:32,759
what the Metro has done lately. Guys like Washington last

620
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:35,359
year they beat Montreal in the first round, then they

621
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,519
just get Wax in the second round, you know. And

622
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,720
you look at Carolina, they've been good every single year.

623
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,720
They go to the playoffs and they're not able to

624
00:33:42,799 --> 00:33:46,839
get over that hump. So maybe they could be a

625
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:48,880
pretty good idea to take a look at that division

626
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,519
because they've gotten a lot better. So we'll see go ahead.

627
00:33:53,519 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: Bright just want to point out that there's fifteen sixteen

628
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,640
teams in the NHL that have more victories in the

629
00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:04,759
Vegas Golden Knights because they go to overtime so often,

630
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:08,719
and they picked up that one point. I would say

631
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,480
Minnesota is a team that can win it all coming

632
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,440
out of the West also.

633
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: And they too.

634
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: There's nothing more disheartening than you have money on a team.

635
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,679
You're watching the game on TV and it goes to

636
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,559
overtime and I think I talked to Brian about this.

637
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,079
The Vegas Golden Knights one and then they flash up

638
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:26,440
on the screen. The biggest Golden Knights are oh and

639
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:29,119
six games that have gone to overtime. I'm like, you

640
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,599
gotta be kidding me. Come on, man, it is just.

641
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,559
Speaker 3: Uh, it's a crap when you get to overtime. I

642
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,920
enjoy I like the three on three is, but when

643
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,639
it started off, when guys were just going back and forth,

644
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:45,639
it was fun. Now they're just limiting their possessions, don't

645
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:47,760
turn it over, and it's not the fun that it

646
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,800
was when they originally planned.

647
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: It on three And you know what, I cover a

648
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,159
junior hockey team where I live and like it's the

649
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:58,920
same thing. Like it's a possession thing. The players are

650
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,400
afraid to lose possession. So if you gave me a shot,

651
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,880
count for overtime, I would bet the under over is

652
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,360
like two and a half. It's pretty much like the

653
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,800
third shot of overtime ends up being a goal because

654
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,199
it's like they don't shoot it until they have like

655
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,880
the perfect chance possible, or like a two to on

656
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,079
to zero breakaway, because they don't want to lose possession,

657
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:22,519
which can be a little bit frustrating. All right, Speaking

658
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:25,679
of frustrated, I bet you Winnipeg Jets fans are a

659
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,679
bit frustrated because after the season they had last year,

660
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,599
they look old, they look slow, and they look like

661
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:37,440
they might not make the playoffs. This division, the Central Division,

662
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,480
is pretty competitive as well. I mean, we can talk

663
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,840
about every division being competitive, but I don't really know

664
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,840
if one is more than the other right now, guys,

665
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,280
because a lot of them are so competitive and a

666
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,639
lot of these teams have positive records on the year.

667
00:35:52,199 --> 00:35:56,800
The Winnipeg Jets taken on the Saint Louis Blues carm

668
00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:00,320
This team has some ground to make up to be

669
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,639
fiery coming into this matchup. What do you think is

670
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:05,280
the move here against this Blues team.

671
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: I think if the Jets, honestly, I have to believe

672
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,239
the Jets are going to be better, especially in the

673
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,119
second half of the season. They get back probably the

674
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:20,880
most important part of that team in Connor Hellibuck, and

675
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,599
he's going to get a lot of starts in the

676
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,159
second half of the season once we hit it. And

677
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:30,599
that's mainly because they have points to make up. But

678
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:34,000
when you look at the games they have coming up,

679
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,800
this is one in which they need to go into

680
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,440
Saint Louis and come out with two points. They absolutely

681
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:42,360
need to go. I don't want to call it a

682
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,400
must win when we're thirty five games into the season.

683
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,280
But after this game they play in a couple of days,

684
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,000
they have to go to Colorado, who have only I

685
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,360
think lost in regulation, well once or twice in thirty

686
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,719
four games, an unbelievable number. Then they play a couple

687
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,039
of nights later against Utah, return home to play Minnesota,

688
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:05,559
who are playing better and who have a goalie who's

689
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,559
pretty good by his own measure. In Wallstead, they get

690
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:12,639
the Edmonton Oilers, the Detroit Red Wings, the Toronto Maple Leafs,

691
00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:16,320
the Ottawa Senators, Vegas Golden Knights, Edmonton Oilers, the La Kings.

692
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,360
Do you see any easy teams? And all of those

693
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,960
ones that I've mentioned you could say Detroit, but I don't.

694
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:26,639
I don't think so, because Detroit are winning games right now,

695
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,440
no matter how they're doing it, they're winning games. This

696
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:34,880
is one in which they have to win this game

697
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:37,960
minus one fifty one. I don't want to lay a

698
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,880
dollar fifty one though, But if Connor Hallibuck is confirmed

699
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,960
for this game, and it's one of those ones where

700
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,320
I might just split it up, might take, you know,

701
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:51,360
try and take like the puck line and and the

702
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,320
money line and bring that down a little bit, kind

703
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,400
of like the Dave Cocone one where you turn it

704
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,519
into like a minus one with very low viig. God

705
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:04,280
blessed for that, for that lesson that he gave me

706
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:07,039
in this one. But I just have no faith in

707
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,880
the Saint Louis Blues right now. If you ask me

708
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,440
that question, what ten days ago, I think I'm puck time,

709
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,719
I'm sad. I'm like, I think the Blues are turning

710
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,239
it around. Boy was I wrong. That's pie in the face,

711
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,920
Brian Andrew. I want to go next.

712
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,679
Speaker 3: I'll go next year, completely correct, and the linesmakers and

713
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,559
the betting public have finally finally caught up with the

714
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:36,199
Saint Louis Blues, and I still wouldn't want the Blues

715
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:39,000
here even at that outrageous number. You pointed out that

716
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:43,039
the Jets the Jeff schedule, They've got their goalie back.

717
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:45,079
This is a team that had a lot of talent.

718
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:47,400
They were there all year long last year, fall apart

719
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,679
in the playoffs. They tend to be doing that lately

720
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,679
a lot. They're a very good regular season team. They've

721
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:55,800
only been off scored by one goal on the season,

722
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:58,760
or as Saint Louis has been off scored by thirty seven,

723
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,840
by far the worst in the league, and that's despite

724
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,239
playing two more home games in the road games. I

725
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,960
want a part of St. Louis here if I'm playing

726
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:12,039
on laying it with Winnipeg, and you talked about the

727
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:15,159
schedule coming up, the players know that. The players know

728
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,960
that this is a game that they have to have. I

729
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,280
think this is a pretty good play here on Winnipeg,

730
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,559
even though yes, I've been fanning Saint Louis all this

731
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:26,599
time and making all this money on it. They they're

732
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:28,480
making it pay for it today with the Jets. But

733
00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:30,039
that's the only way I would look at this game.

734
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: I kind of like the under in this game, guys,

735
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,480
that's kind of the angle I'm looking for. You know.

736
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:41,079
I just think that we've seen spots of the Blues

737
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:44,880
having some offense it's coming gone. We've seen the Jets,

738
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:48,159
you know, give up chances. We've seen them not get

739
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:52,400
the best goaltending while hellabuck was gone. But I just think, look,

740
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,360
I opened the segment by talking about old and slow

741
00:39:56,199 --> 00:39:58,760
is what this Winnipeg team looks like. I just think

742
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,639
that they're incapable right now of winning first of four

743
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,440
first to five wins. I have a feeling that this

744
00:40:04,559 --> 00:40:06,960
is going to be a very dragged out, boring type

745
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,719
of game. So I kind of lean towards the under.

746
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,559
You can pick a team that you think might win,

747
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,960
take their opponent under their team total.

748
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 2: Uh.

749
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:17,559
Speaker 1: Something tells me this one will lack some excitement. So

750
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:20,400
we'll see. But I just think that when when you're

751
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:23,920
when you're trying to look for some you know, some momentum,

752
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,719
when you're a team like Toronto maybe, or you're a

753
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,199
team like Colorado. I guess Toronto doesn't really work. But

754
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:33,760
when your team, you know that has offensive prowess, you

755
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,159
you maybe look for it with with pace and goals.

756
00:40:36,199 --> 00:40:38,159
But when you're a team like Winnipeg, I think the

757
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:40,960
best thing that you can look for is defense. They'll

758
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,559
probably try and do that as long as they can.

759
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:45,320
But yeah, Brian, the price is interesting to look at.

760
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,519
And I get it with you Karam saying the same thing,

761
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:49,760
like you got to try and find a different way

762
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,639
to play it, right, And so for me, I kind

763
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:53,400
of just lean towards the under and this one. And

764
00:40:53,679 --> 00:40:55,239
I gave out the under and the one they had

765
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,119
against the Senators, And the funny thing is is they

766
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,000
ended up losing that game. Like you know, they kept

767
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:03,119
that as an under when they can, but too the

768
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,000
XG wasn't even that good, so it favored the over.

769
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:08,800
So we'll see. But I still don't think this team

770
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,840
is playing how they want to be playing. I think

771
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,239
long term, in order to have any success, this team

772
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,480
has to be an underteam. I think I believe that.

773
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:19,519
Speaker 2: You guys know, you guys know that if this game

774
00:41:19,559 --> 00:41:22,840
goes to overtime. After me reading off those stats at

775
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,880
the Saint Louis Blues are oh to seven in games

776
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,039
that have gone to overtime that they are going to

777
00:41:27,079 --> 00:41:30,000
win tonight in overtime. If that game goes to overtime

778
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:34,440
either well, they either get their first one or they

779
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,440
become the or solidify their worst record in OT and

780
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,960
go to to eight in overtime and shootouts. But with

781
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:50,199
that said, Andrew, everyone is and Kurt in the chat

782
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,719
wanted to know he's late coming to watch the show.

783
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,079
Whether I gave Brian the business on the show about

784
00:41:57,079 --> 00:42:00,679
the New York Isanders Detroit Red Wings straight. No, I

785
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,639
didn't skirt, and it's mainly because my day in the

786
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,440
NHL wasn't very good. So you know what I mean.

787
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:11,480
I can I can't flex when I have nothing to

788
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:17,000
flex with. But with that said, Andrew, you you've promised

789
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:21,559
us a same game partly winner. Now you actually Andrew

790
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:24,119
didn't actually promise us. I am putting him under the

791
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,880
gun here and saying that he promised us give us

792
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,480
a winner, Andrew Carl.

793
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,159
Speaker 1: I have four picks that you guys can cipher from.

794
00:42:33,559 --> 00:42:38,280
But overall, this is the best prop game on the board,

795
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,119
and by no coincidence, it's a very big coincidence. It's

796
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:43,800
the game with a six and a half is the

797
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,599
total we've got that We've got the Utah and we

798
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:51,840
have Detroit in this one. We've got all players to

799
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,519
get at least one point to brink it, Raymond, Sergchev

800
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:59,639
and Schmaltz, that equals plus four hundred some books plus

801
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:03,840
three nine and uh, you know makes you shop round

802
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,960
with these guys, because I'll tell you what. When I

803
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,639
look at these player props, some of the websites that

804
00:43:08,679 --> 00:43:11,199
I use, and on my show The pre Scout, I've

805
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,519
been talking about the hof app, which I use quite

806
00:43:13,519 --> 00:43:15,840
a bit. It will actually tell you when you're looking

807
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,280
at a prop and you're breaking it down, Okay, this

808
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,800
book has this price. This book has this price. And

809
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:23,079
I'll tell you what guys like if we talk about

810
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:25,480
on money lines and totals to shop round for the

811
00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:28,880
best price. I can only imagine, you know, the money

812
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,440
people are losing or you know, not saving, Like talking

813
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,920
about a goal scorer, Like there's goal scoring props that

814
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,079
are plus two twenty five at some books and plus

815
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:41,679
one sixty one seven. It is a massive difference. So

816
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:45,320
to brink it, Raymond, Cirgachev and Schmaltz, I like those.

817
00:43:46,639 --> 00:43:50,159
And here here's the sprinkle, guys. And this one, this

818
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:52,280
one might make me look a little bit crazy, but

819
00:43:53,199 --> 00:43:55,679
here's the sprinkle. This is kind of the bargain bin

820
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:01,760
special to quote Alex b and Ian Cameron plus plus

821
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,199
seven to fifty Mikel Sergachev goal. For whatever reason, Detroit

822
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,079
gives up the bottom are the top five most goals

823
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,480
against defensemen, and Sirgachev is one of the best defensemen

824
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:18,159
on UTAH. But his goal prop is plus seven fifty.

825
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,840
So that's kind of the angle world of taking a

826
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,760
look at I haven't been doing as many shot props.

827
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,000
If you guys want to sprinkle on Cirgachev shot props,

828
00:44:26,079 --> 00:44:28,719
you can, But that's why I decided to take him

829
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,599
in the point prop plus seven to fifty for Sergachev

830
00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:34,360
to get a goal. It's you know, it's one of

831
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,920
those ones where you're just playing the matchup here, guys.

832
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,360
But I do like that game, and I think if

833
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,960
you're playing props today, that's probably a game you want

834
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,159
to look at and really quick. Not to go long,

835
00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:47,199
I apologize, but that Vegas Detroit game. Watch the lineup

836
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,360
information because if Ikele and those guys are in, then

837
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,559
it affects the props. If they're out, you can make

838
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:55,159
some money with props on the guys that will have

839
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,639
to step up, and you guys know how it goes

840
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,519
as far as that's concerned. Back over to U karm YEP.

841
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:06,159
Speaker 2: Hopefully Mitch Marner gets some points because I did give

842
00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:11,800
them props yesterday when I was talking about Austin Matthews Andrew,

843
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,719
I got so much flak from my friends. I'm surrounded

844
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,639
by leaf fans here. Unfortunately, just I dropped that video

845
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,280
clip into a bunch of WhatsApp groups and they were

846
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,760
after me, Like, these guys just they don't get it.

847
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:30,440
My friends who are fans and this isn't two people

848
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,920
in the chat or people watching this video later who

849
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:40,599
are Leaf fans. My friends who are they're their their luck.

850
00:45:41,079 --> 00:45:44,599
Like reality with the Leafs just does not exist with

851
00:45:44,639 --> 00:45:46,719
these guys. They seem to think that there are always

852
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,280
one player or two players away from winning the Stanley Cup,

853
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,039
and they are far from it. I made a prediction

854
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:56,320
yesterday to them, and I said that Austin Matthews will

855
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,039
not be in a Leaf jersey at the end of

856
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:02,880
next season. He's either they're going to trade him. I

857
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,800
think at this point the Toronto Aple Leafs understand that

858
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:09,760
they don't have a team that can compete. Their coach,

859
00:46:10,199 --> 00:46:15,480
blew A gasket on behind the bench. Andrew, I'm not

860
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,559
sure if you saw that with Craig Berube. He absolutely

861
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:23,280
blew a gasket. But anyways, speaking of blowing gaskets, let's

862
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,079
not blow one with this pod play. Today's pod play

863
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,320
yesterday was a winner with the Anaheim Columbus game over.

864
00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:34,360
We are going to take an under tonight and we're

865
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,039
going to the Vegas Golden Knights and New Jersey Devil's game.

866
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:40,920
As I mentioned, Jack Hughes out of the lineup. This

867
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,239
team is averaging one goal less per game from three

868
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,280
forty one down to two forty four. The Devils are

869
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,000
seventeen fifteen and one to the under, eleventh best in

870
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:55,360
the NHL. The Vegas Golden Knights sixteen thirteen and two

871
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,559
also a profitable to the under. They are ninth overall

872
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:03,679
under five and a half minus one fifteen three to one.

873
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,000
Final for the Vegas Golden Nights tonight. That would work

874
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:09,840
for everybody. So let's try and hit this pod play

875
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,000
and get that total up. We are up thirty percent

876
00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:15,760
on the year from our starting bank role. Let's keep

877
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,800
it rolling, boys.

878
00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: The pod shout out to the pod play Karen, you

879
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,920
keep on rolling. One play a day. You told us

880
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,559
at the start of the year you're gonna show people

881
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:30,159
how it's done, and that's what you've done with that

882
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,480
play of the day. So that's the late night game

883
00:47:32,519 --> 00:47:34,880
as well. Guys, it's late night game. Brian. What do

884
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,639
you have going at today? Wagers Hockey told me it

885
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:38,519
was more of a quieter day in hockey, is it?

886
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:39,320
Or what's going on?

887
00:47:39,519 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 3: Yes yesterday we stunk, but I do have a big

888
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,559
four percent play going and I was able to squeak

889
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:47,239
it in with my lousy internet here in Las Vegas.

890
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,440
We can't get the the King package in like they

891
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,440
got in Toronto with Carmine. He's always blaming everybody else's internet.

892
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,079
But the site does have some problems. But I was

893
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:01,440
able to get a four percent playoff in the NHL.

894
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,440
I've got two plays in college basketball right now. Been

895
00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:06,920
really nice rounding college basketball, and I'm sure I'll have more.

896
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,360
But as was talked about, they're having some back end

897
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,000
issues on the site. Hopefully you can get the places that

898
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,079
are up there now, but if not, come back in

899
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,199
an hour or so and somemorrow tomorrow we'll be up

900
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,480
there and uh, look at that. Get a lot better

901
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:23,199
day than we all had yesterday. So we gratch on

902
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,719
four percent yesterday with Andrew, but the rest of us

903
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,000
didn't didn't have it, And let's see where can get

904
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:29,679
you some interest.

905
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: Today, Brian. That's a great thing about this show, Brian, UH,

906
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:36,239
and shows in general on the wager Talk TV platform,

907
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,800
is that UH, people aren't tuning in every day to

908
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,079
watch guys flex smack themselves on the back. We know

909
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:46,400
that this is a marathon, it's not a sprint. We're

910
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,920
going to have days like we did. We fess up

911
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,159
to it, we move on and UH and hopefully at

912
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,400
least some of our thought process in the games that

913
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,800
we cover, like the three that we did today, people

914
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,559
can sort of get uh a feeling for what we

915
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:04,760
do to get to the end part, which is what

916
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,760
we like in the game and how we got there,

917
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:10,079
and if that helps them become better handicappers, then that's

918
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:11,840
all that really matters at the end of the day.

919
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:14,880
So we're not stuffing paid plays down your throat. But

920
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,840
that said, Andrew, I have nothing up at wager Talk.

921
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,960
I will have some plays up early afternoon, but for me,

922
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,920
that's it. I'm hoping for the pod play and I'll

923
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,400
send it over to you to let us know where

924
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,920
you have going and close it out.

925
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:35,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, caarm So I did five percent analysis last night

926
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:41,199
before I got the write up published. I fell asleep

927
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,719
after doing the analysis. Then I wake up this morning,

928
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,079
have an appointment. I go to post the analysis all

929
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:50,519
morning and the server is down, so you guys will

930
00:49:50,519 --> 00:49:53,280
have to wait. But at some way, shape or form,

931
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,639
I will have a five percent play going today and

932
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,280
when it does work, I have a promo code already

933
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,679
set up which is save fifteen, so you guys can

934
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,760
use that to get fifteen dollars off the play, or

935
00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:12,679
you can go with Brian Carmine myself three day NHL

936
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,079
Hat Trick Special forty nine bucks. One five percent play

937
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:19,320
costs thirty five bucks, one regular play twenty five bucks,

938
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,480
and you can get three days all plays for forty

939
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:24,599
nine dollars. And you know, we say this all the time, guys,

940
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:26,599
and we're not trying to be these people, but like,

941
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,719
it's just sometimes tiring to look across social media when

942
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,079
you see people that it just seems like they always win.

943
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,440
I promise you these people are not winning ninety five

944
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,800
percent of their bets. Because if not, if they did,

945
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,719
they would be on an island somewhere, having someone serve

946
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,559
them drinks and just cater to every need and living

947
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:51,239
the best life they possibly can. They are not winning

948
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,360
ninety nine percent of the time because they tell Twitter

949
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,719
that they are, so just be careful, you know. I

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see a lot of people talk about people on Twitter

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and different handicappers off. I'm not trying to be that guy,

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and I never wanted to be that guy. I always

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try and be a positive person and a nice guy

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on these shows, but it can be real frustrating because

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this industry is turning into a lot of you know,

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if you don't say that you hit seventy percent winners,

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somehow you're the loser here. But we're just trying to

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be honest. So love doing shows with these two guys,

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Carlon and Brian. Always a fun time and it is

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kind of a hidden gem of a slate in the

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NHL today. Let's make it a good one, guys. Let's

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bounce back. Thanks for watching, guys. We'll see you tomorrow,

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same time, same place, right here on puck Time.