Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, y'all, welcome back to another episode of Bravo.
We're black Keya is not here with us today. I
don't know if you guys have been seeing her story,
but she's feeling under the weather. We are sending her
so much love and we can't wait till she gets back.
But I'm gonna hold it down. In the meantime, I
have Stephanie from the Mocha Minutes podcast joining me to
talk about Housewives.
Speaker 2: Of Atlanta today. Hey, what's on our own? Stephanie going,
I'm doing okay. I feel like I'm my grandfather fairly Midland. Also,
other folks probably know what.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to you. You're feeling good. Boo, what do
you have any That's what I want to start the
episode off by asking do you have any hot takes?
Hot Bravo related takes?
Speaker 3: Ooh oh god, so full disclosure. I'm not watching in
the City because that lady with that terrible ponytails on there.
I literally stopped watching The City and I'm a Hubhouse fan,
but I saw they announced who's coming back for the
summer house season eleven. This is my high take. Carl
should have been on in the City and I'm trying
to figure out why he's not. I don't understand that.
I'm like, if we're doing like that of Summer House,
Carl should have been one of those that's it shouldn't have.
Speaker 4: Just been Lindsey and Kyle.
Speaker 3: And I guess to a little bit of a degree, Amanda,
it really Carls should have been on it been on
in the city. It's not like he lives in a
different city, because they all were in New York. I'm like,
Carl lives there, so he should have been on in
the city. And I don't know if anybody who watches it,
I'm like, I would love to know if they I'm
just saying it because I'm like that, But if anybody
who watched in the city, I want to know, do
you think he would have been beneficial on this season?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good that's a good hot take. So guys,
you know, comment your answers, especially to Spotify listeners. They
have a little spot where you can comment questions or
answers under there are just even thoughts, like if you
have any thoughts on any of the topics that we're
talking about today, feel free to do so. So let's
get it, so wait, was that your only Bravo hot take?
Speaker 3: They am not surprised as Big and Bad as Liz
is not surprised because she's a one and done housewife.
I'm not surprised. I mean that second half of the
season for me, it was like, girl, what is happening
right now?
Speaker 4: And then on the reunion, it was like.
Speaker 3: Okay, not a bad reunion, but I'm like, hmmm, somebody's
going to end up leaving. I'm not surprised that it's List.
I'm really not, because I feel like Liz always gave
I don't need this show kind of doesn't. But I
could see that next season.
Speaker 1: And just so we're being clear, that's Housewise of Rhode Island, right, Yeah,
sorry I should have said which one. No, you're fine,
they're fine. I just wanted to give the people some
preface so they know we're talking about here. So Housewives
of Rhode Island. I actually thought it would have been
the lady with the coffee shop, to be quite honest.
Speaker 3: That's another one again. You're right because I'm like, why
are you and your husband who in that coffee shop?
I'm like, why are y'all here? Because gay friend of
and I'm like, I don't think she was friend of She.
Speaker 1: Did, like, I don't know, maybe maybe one of those
people that you run into doing during one of the
Housewives activity activities, like the vacations that they have. I
just thought it was going to be something like that,
but you know she's on the cast.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I was like, hmmm, I don't know. Then, yes.
Speaker 3: My last one is Orange County and I watched the
premiere and I do this every season for the last
maybe few or five, four or five years. I'm like,
I'm gonna give you all a chance to see if
y'all are going to deliver. And typically their trail their
trailers for like the upcoming season. For me, they don't give.
I can't believe I'm saying this. The premiere of Orange
County kind of gave, but not in an Atlanta way.
Speaker 4: It gave like, ooh, this is a.
Speaker 3: Different show, like because usually Orange County their premiers are like, hm, okay,
all right, I guess, but this one wasn't too bad
and I am waiting for this Tana versus fancy Pants.
It's dust up because I'm sorry. Heather is a a
friend to everyone and a friend to no one.
Speaker 1: And guards know how I feel about Heather Debro.
Speaker 4: Oh wait, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I like Heather Debrom. I do like, you know, maybe
my thoughts will change because I do have to catch up.
I actually have to watch the premiere because I've just
been so sucked into Atlanta catching up on that. Yeah,
it's been and it's been good. I'm not even a
lie like I fell off of B Atlanta just because
you know, I've been working and stuff like that, so
I haven't really had time to see what's going on.
I remember I left off on K Michelle crying at
the table and Angela being like, what the fuck is
this girl crying? Like eat your breakfast? But oh, after
catching up, I'm like, damn, this is good.
Speaker 4: It's given once you what did you catch up? It's given?
Speaker 1: Mm hm. So let's jump right in now. What are
your thoughts on the season overall? So far?
Speaker 3: This season, Porscha is not the anchor that people think
she is. She's not a vet, but they don't have
any vets on here, and she is a good backup anchor,
but a better anchor would have been Kenya or Candy really,
and it's like if and even Cynthia is not a
good anchor. She's one of the best friends of that
we've had in a while. I mean you're thinking like
Marvel's first few seasons of being a friend of. But yeah,
I Porsha is an anchor, but she's not a strong anchor.
She's like a minno boat anchor. She is not a
yacht anchor. She's not a cruise ship anchor.
Speaker 4: She's not.
Speaker 1: So you think she's bringing like just enough to keep
the show, like going into the drama just enough.
Speaker 4: But she that bringing like story story for real.
Speaker 3: But I think part of it is because Salvin gonna
hope back in his Instagram story and sun her or
talk about her or bring up some stuff. But girl,
we're not seeing too much on your story. You're giving
very much Phaedra, And I'm like, I'm very can angers
don't do.
Speaker 5: That, you know what I will have to say, Like,
I think that Portra is actually giving us something, because
if we're talking about stories, I don't really see what
anybody else is too much bringing.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're kind of getting to see her
in Mike and then her and Sway and whatever decision
she ends up making, most likely it's gonna be with
Sway because we see her with Sway, but I don't
even know if they're still together, because I think they've
seen her with somebody else. I don't know, allegedly. Really
Oh wow, I don't know if that's for real or not,
but I've seen that somewhere in the blocks. Maybe it
was Maybe it was Ai, uh, because you know they
like playing with the Ai. Maybe it was Ai. But yeah,
I actually think that her storyline is pretty interesting. And
then this whole beef with Shemiah, which we're seeing this awful. Honestly,
I did not expect it to get this bad when
we're bringing moms into it. Very dangerous, very dangerous.
Speaker 3: It is very dangerous. I'm gonna tell you this right now.
This is my high take.
Speaker 4: Shamia.
Speaker 3: You should have cussed her out at that reunion last year.
You should have brought this up at that reunion last year.
Because now people are putting out clips from the riion.
I'm like, this is what she was talking about. She
was like, oh, I don't want to go there because
things will really go left.
Speaker 4: This is why I'm like, this is what she's talking about.
Speaker 3: I'm like, huh, I'm like, oh, she was hinting and
alluding to this at that reunion last year. Girl, you
should have lift at Chopper Spray. If you want to talk,
bring up the daycare. If you're going to do this, Shemiah,
put put your put your bbl butt in the pool.
Put it in the water. Do not put your toe
in there. Just say it, because now you're just saying
I'm like, and it looks weird.
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, what wait? Is this?
Speaker 3: This is what you didn't want to bring up because
everything would go left.
Speaker 4: That's when you're supposed to bring. Bring up the reunion.
That's where stuff is supposed to go left. Bring it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do wish that she well, no, honestly, I
don't wish she would have brought it up at all,
But I mean, if she had to, I do think
that the reunion was a really good place to do so,
because now it just looks like you've been sitting on
this this whole time. And I will say, I don't
think Portia has been doing anything to Shemia, like we've
been seeing her kind of stick. I mean, I guess
she chose sides and she's on the other team, because
it's like Shemi and Kelly and Kate Michelle now kind
of building a click and then Pinky sits somewhere in
the middle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just felt like I would, you know, Porscha didn't
really do anything to deserve that.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, that thing, it really came out of.
Speaker 1: It came out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: It came out of nowhere. But it's like it came
out of nowhere and somewhere at the exact same time.
But it looks more nowhere because we're not seeing Porscha
and Shmia interact.
Speaker 1: Right Matt.
Speaker 3: And it seems like for for the most part, Portia
is being very just kind of either distant or not
talking or cordial with Shemiah.
Speaker 4: And I think it's the.
Speaker 3: Way that we're setting this, like we see this setting
up because if she had let the chopper spray last
at the reunion last year, that make up that kumbe
a moment that por and Kelly had, That's the moment
that Porscha and Shamia should have had.
Speaker 4: And it's real. It is. It does get very like.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, you can prefer you can shop it
up all these people. You can get cool with Angela,
with Kelly, to a certain extent, came to Shelle. But
you can't get cool with Shemiah. Baby, Let's have a
conversation as to why.
Speaker 1: I wonder why it is though, maybe because of this
information is there?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 1: Has it been the battles of the mom because I
know when we first started the conversation when when they
had to sit down, Samia just brought up like some
of the stuff that Portia was talking about recently and
it involved her mom. So I'm like, I guess it
came from that. But even still, what Porscha said, I
don't think it equates to what Shemiah said.
Speaker 3: No, Like, so do you think because I don't know
if you remember because I'm now trying to remember when
she had put out that extram story saying that Shamia
and her mom did something egregious or something to her
because she said she was watching the episodes and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, wait a minute, did that come out before the reunion?
I think it did.
Speaker 3: And now I'm like, well, why didn't you, like Shamiya
hash it out here because Shemiah wanted to do this, Yeah,
we can talk about this. I'm like, girl, she's not
giving you she wants to talk about it because after
you're in y'all like getting down and dirty and beaten
to the white meat in text messages. So I'm like, honey, y'all,
you're not going to do this, so you should have
did this on camera.
Speaker 1: Agreed, Agreed. I do. I do like how Portia defended
her mom though, because I thought that was very necessary.
But it's not like, did she deny it? I think
she did deny it.
Speaker 3: I think it's like if she said, if my mom
did that, death is something for her. I think essentially
denying it, and in a weird way because Shemi was like,
wish uncle, I'm like I would have been like that.
Speaker 4: Don't matter which which.
Speaker 1: Right was right that I was like, uh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Point for Frad, I wouldn't said like which brother. I'm like, now, Faedra,
you're funny about lies, but I'm gonna leave you alone.
Then you have a point, I'd be like, girl, what
are you talking about? That's the dumbest thing ever.
Speaker 4: Who girl? No?
Speaker 1: And it kind of makes me want to bring the
moms in and just have them have their own little
power oow situation. Do you think that aportiation MEI can
come back from this, it's Porsche. Hadn't put out that tweet.
I'd say, yeah, she hadn't put out that tweet.
Speaker 3: I'd be like, but even at that table, I was like, ooh,
there's no going back from this, because I also am
like I said it on my TikTok, I said, I
am not I'm not team Shami or team Porsche. I
am teen dinner table, I am team place setting. I
am teen cloth napkin because for me, they are both
wrong here. I'm like Samiah, I'm like, girl, you should
have been brought this up and also a Porsche. If
you really have known Shemiah for as long as you have,
you should have known that would have like that would
have literally nicked her by you. But one y'all having
a whole komba y'all moment for the group. She's left
out and you had no problem forgiving and moving forward
with Kelly, who is, as they set up for this reunion,
her best friend. And I'm like, I'm like, I get
white above her. I'm like, Shemiah, if you're gonna be
a grown up, be a grown up. If you're gonna
be Michelle Obama, be Michelle Obama. If you're gonna be AOC,
be AOC and lay her out. But this should have
came back last year. And it's like or said, like
I just want to be cool. But also two Porstia's point.
If I'm not cool with you, me and your kids
are not gonna be playing no sandbox.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I don't see her children coming over to Pilar. I
don't see y'all having playdates. So I don't know. I'm like,
why would this come up because Drew mentioned Dennis. I'm like, uh,
I wouldn't have brought this up at all. She can
bring it up in the confessional, that's fine. It was like, man,
listening to this and it's just like, I can't believe
she's saying this. And I'm like, I guess she's thinking like, oh,
let me bring it up, like let's not, let's not.
I just I don't know the thought process of this.
I'm like, you can say it hurts your feelings. I'm like,
of course it's gonna hurt, because one, if y'all really
were as close as you say, then this, God, it's
gotta hurt. And so I can actually understand that from
Simia being like, Wow, she can make up with everybody
except me, like we both have like we both have children.
We were so close we thought like, oh, our kids
going to play when we when you know, when we
start having kids, and now they're not.
Speaker 4: It's like I understand that.
Speaker 1: I think what she has to understand also is their
relationship is a lot different than any relationship she has.
Like even with Kelly, it was kind of easy to
get over that because I don't think Portia has her
are going over to Kelly's house to play Nickson nets
and shit like that. Like you know, I think her
and Shamia were really tight. So this fallout is a
lot harder to get over than it would be with
Kelly just saying, oh, you sleep with every Nigerian man
that you see, or some dumb shit like that. But
what I do wonder too is and I'm kind of
seeing it and I don't know if it's lies or
if it's truth. If it's lies, then she can think
of a lie pretty damn quick, because every time it
gets like when Porscha's back is against the wall, she
just says some random shit and I don't know it.
I guess it kind of sticks because they get really
upset over it.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up, because somebody is bringing
up clips of the Sex Dungeon season with Candy and
Porsche when they had went on like one of the
trips and she said, oh, yeah, you said something, so
I had to say something, and then she raised my compassion,
like so you lied. It's like, yeah, I like y'all
sitting at this table watching Sami and Porscha go at
it a lot of y'all. I'm like, I'm looking at
y'all real work because I'm like, hey, hi, has she
told lies on y'all? Cynthia, you know that Phedra allegedly
she lied on you. It's like she's she brought you
in and said that you're the one who told her that.
You know, Predri's acting like she didn't say that. Kelly,
she lied on you. Angela, she's lied to you or
about you. It's like a lot of ky Michelle. Absolutely,
I don't think she lied about Pinky because Pinky is
very neutral, or at least trying to be. She's trying
to be. She's the kind of neutral word. It's like, hey,
I'm cool on everybody, but it's still my homegirl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what that's one of the things
that I do enjoy the most about Pinky. I'm glad
to see that she is being like neutral and not
picking a side, and you know what, I find her
to be very likable. At first, I wasn't too sure
how I was gonna feel about her, but as time progresses,
I'm like, Okay, you know what, No, I do want
to keep her on the show. And on top of that,
and I feel like I've said this quite a few times,
but I love her transparency with the bankruptcy thing and
just with her businesses and what she's going through. Because
a lot of people will get on TVs and because
they're in front of the camera and they're in front
of other people, they make things seem like not so
big of a deal when they, you know, when a
business venture doesn't work out, or when they lose out
on some money, it's just like, oh, okay. But no,
she was like, they dead ass took out twenty thousand
dollars out of my account and I'm pissed. And it
did kind of upset me with Angela because I was like,
I don't think she the comment that she made about
like Pinky not being money and being more than her money.
I don't think that Pinky comes in the room and
she's just like, oh I money, I don't. It doesn't
give me that. It just gives me she's being transparent.
She knows that she's did like, this is a big deal.
You're claiming bankruptcy. You have all these businesses and people
that you need to pay and bills that you need
to pay. This is very stressful for her and also
her family. So obviously it's going to be heavy on
her mind and she's going to talk about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I was the same way.
Speaker 3: I so when I when I saw what Angela said,
I looked at it as somebody who also lost a parent.
And that probably changes how you feel about things. Because Angela,
you were upset about losing money. Were you crying? I
don't necessarily believe so, but you were upset about losing
money on these houses, houses that you were flipping. But
I think because of her mom passed and she's looking
at all this stuff differently, She's like, it is just money.
Speaker 4: You can't take it with you.
Speaker 3: And I think she went up to the line but
didn't go over here, Like if this was before my
mom passed, I kind of would understand, but now that
my mom passed, its like you can't take none of
this with you. It's like it don't even matter. It's like, girl,
it don't matter. You've got your health, you got a
good man, you got your family. It's like it's just money.
So I'm like, maybe she's coming at it from this way,
but the way that it was in the confessional, it
looks very hatter and I don't think she meant it
to come off that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't think that she she it came from
like a hate for malicious space. I just think it
was one of those things where maybe she misinterpreted what
Pinky meant when she was bringing it, or maybe she
received it the wrong way. But yeah, Pinky gives me
very that she's very humble. You know, she's always speaking
about how grateful she is for all these opportunities and
her husband looking out for her and just her family
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think, like with everything going on, thinky,
there's no way she couldn't even brought this up on
the show because a lot of stuff was going on
while they were filming.
Speaker 4: I feel like if she kind of didn't address that.
Speaker 3: During the season, it would look like, not Picky, how
you on the show and you not saying nothing about this?
How y'all own this show and you ain't saying nothing.
But I feel like if this wasn't Picky's first season
and Pinky was more integrated to the group, they'd have
brought up the stuff that's on the blocks to her face.
They were like, oh, girl, you see what happened Pinky?
And then it's like they will say it the blink
and then it would be gone. They did not bring
it up, but I feel like.
Speaker 4: So bad.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say how quicky it is this season.
I feel like if Porscha had an issue with Kve
with Pinky cold, she would have brought this up in
more of a substantial, substantial way. It's like, girl, we
are you gonna talk about this? Nobody's bringing it up?
Mm hm, how interesting.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things too, where production
is probably telling them, well, this happened. You want to
get you guys, want to get ahead of the story.
Ports should bring it up, like, because there are moments
where you can tell this very much what's happening, just
at how randomly they bring up these topics yeah, yeah,
but you know, I am hopeful that going back to
should we in Porscha, that they can I don't know,
talk it out, get their moms together, whatever the case
may be. But a friendship and I'm not even gonna
say friendship because I don't even think they were ever friends,
but just a beef that I don't understand right now?
Is this whole k Michelle Andrew situation? What is going
on with that? Don't understand?
Speaker 3: I'm like, girl, did do you have an issue with
Drew Door? Because it gives like y'all had a bad
running and y'all not cool. I don't understand Cachelle's issue
with Drew. I'm like, you help me. I'm like, I
want somebody to help me to understand. I'm like, do
you know Druce Door? Does she do something to you?
And Ralph get on your nerves? That man who live
in the basement. I'm like, what is happening? I'm like,
what is your issue with Drew so DOORA I don't know?
Speaker 1: And it's like I'm trying to figure it out. And
that's why I really wanted to watch and catch up,
because I was like, Aaron, you should just skip ahead.
But I'm like, no, no, no, no, this is Housewives of bad LANDA.
I can't pull no shit like that. So let me
go back and watch all the episodes because I also
want to see what went wrong between k Michelle Andrew Store.
And the first thing that I seen was I guess
Drew telling the girls that k Michelle and Black are friends,
like or you know that Ca Michelle knows it Black,
which I mean I kind of thought that they had
a friendship too, just based off of how Kate Michelle
greeted him on that FaceTime call. I didn't really think
it was too far fresh to say like, oh, they
have a friendship or they you know, they're course they
know of each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the thing. I'm like, here's a misstep,
now came. I was someone who gave k Michelle a
hard time in the beginning of seat. I'm like, why
she ain't like she wasn't no love and hip Hop
And then I had to go back and think about
the dynamic of love and hip hop is different from
the Housewives and hip Hop. They don't make them do
a whole bunch of like everybody got to just hang out,
hang out, hang out with each other, Especially on her seasons,
she had out with the people that she was cool with,
and she had a lot of one on one interactions.
But it's like it wasn't a whole bunch of group.
Even when she's saying oooh, she's shaking the table, it
wasn't the whole, the whole cast day. It was like
two or three other people there. So, yeah, this is
kind of new for cam Michelle because it's like she
was doing like one or two people.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like the whole.
Speaker 3: Cast somewhere and y'all arguing it was like a couple
of people. I'm like, let me, let me give her
a little bit of grace. Yeah, it wasn't the whole
It wasn't the whole cast doing all of this. So
I'm like, his misstep for a first season housewife? Why
are you telling them that you opened this up? I'm like,
why are you telling me? They like, oh, yeah, he
was in my damns? Girl, why are you as a
newlywed allegedly, Because I'm like, well, I feel like y'all
just got married and that's weird. Why are you telling
them now he's in your dms? And then we see
it's so good to see you what a Mike what?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was just very strange to me because I'm like,
it's either you fuck with the man or you don't.
Speaker 4: You don't.
Speaker 1: But on the positive, one of the positive things that
I will say is I do enjoy kay Michelle in
this group. I do think that she's still a little
bit closed off and she has issues with trusting people,
and that could be because of her previous experience with
reality TV, like seeing her All Love and Hip Hop
and then seeing her kind of leave and then I
think she even came back as Kimberly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Kimberly. I'm like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she had her own show, so it's
like we're kind of seeing we've seen all of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think I understand also because it's like
totally forgot that when she opened up about being abused,
Rashida tried to make it seem like she was lying.
She's like, I don't believe her, and I'm like, yeah,
after that, if I'm opening up about my domestic violence
situation and you're calling me a liar and saying I
don't believe you, yeah, I wouldn't be ready to talk
about all my stuff with new people. Either I was like, oh,
last time I really opened up my stuff, I was
called a liar when I said I was.
Speaker 1: Abused because they knew the guy. I'm like, because we've
seen a lot of that. And to also think with that,
with that whole Rashida thing, is because you know, she
was close to Toya mm hmm, and I think that's
where she got some of her information from probably.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not even yeah.
Speaker 3: And this whole like came in show I'm following Smiah
and like, cause she's in so close to Candy and
Candy is still very close to Rashida. I'm like, yeah,
I knew that was coming, and it's like, I'm very
surprised that she'd be able to try to be her friend.
Speaker 1: Is that the reason why they'll followed each other or
was it because it's because of the reunion some I
think something happened aty re union and people noticed that
Kate Michelle unfollowed Shamiyah, So I'm like, huh, I'm like I.
Speaker 3: Thought it was because one I got what Ky Michelle
said when she's like that kind of like is making
me feel away or hurt my feelings that she's saying,
all my friends don't want to be your friend, Like.
Speaker 4: Why do you keep telling me that? What am I
supposed to do with that?
Speaker 1: All of her friends?
Speaker 3: Because she said I think she said it like on
the trip, Like I think it was one of the
last Kate Michelle was talking to Pinky and she said,
she said, I don't have nobody here, like all my
only friend here is Kelly. But then she also brought
up and I don't know if it was like the
last episode episode before where she was or episodes past
where she said, yeah, my friends don't want to be
friends want me to be friends with you? And she
told Kate Michelle this, And I'm sitting here like, what
is she supposed to do?
Speaker 4: Is he?
Speaker 1: Who is her friends?
Speaker 3: So Shemiah is really close to Candy, and I think
Candy and Kevin Sheelle don't get along, but then by proxy,
Candy's really close to Rashida.
Speaker 4: And Toya an Tooya.
Speaker 1: That's really what it comes down to for me, because
I'm like, I don't even think it's Roshka. I think
it's Tria.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think if you look at Candy's I
g and if she go places or she hanging out
you see Rashida is a lot.
Speaker 1: Well, are you anywhere in Atlanta you see Rashida to
be fitter?
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm trying to think that she has been
going on on girls trips and it's like Shmia is
still really close to Candy because when Candy was on Broadway,
she went up to go see her.
Speaker 1: This is just tough, but I agree with you. I
don't know why Sami keeps feeling the need to do
shit like that. But that's the problem that I think
Smia is having when it comes to like most of
her beefs on the show, it's you get somewhere and
you just say It's like, man, what are you just
say shit? You just do shit? You say shit, and
then you know, you'll you'll get over an argument with
somebody and then you bringing up the same shit the
next episode, or you'll say something else. And that's why
a lot of the times people just can't with her.
And it sucks because I do feel bad because there
are moments where I see comments and stuff like, oh,
they're bullying Shamia and it is given, like if you
getting to watch this show, given, yeah, and you've just
seen little stuff like this that we're seeing these episodes,
you would think like, oh, they're they're definitely ganging up
with her and trying to take her down. But once
you really think about all the stuff that she does
behind the scenes, and how she carries information and tells
this one person and the stuff like this, and that
you're bringing it on yourself.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, because when you said something very interesting
and you said when Shemya gets over stuffed, Shemi is
not getting over anything. She's just stopped talking about it, man,
stopped turning the page. You're not over this. Settle its
at bove on because you and Angela don't make no
sense to me. And I'm like, ma'am, you're like one.
It's like you're holding on too smy you should have
stet up from my marriage. Y'all literally calls Shemia Porsia's
lap dog.
Speaker 4: In my marriage.
Speaker 3: She barely knows you. That's the first thing. But the
second thing, Angela, let this go, because hey, Hi, from
what I remember, Porsia's the one that she was literally
fuck your man.
Speaker 4: She's the one who said it.
Speaker 3: I don't understand my And one you're taking a little
like I don't know if people are calling it like,
but you're shading her and you're her professional. But it's like, then,
why are you starying to sit here and be her face?
I'm sorry, I'm never gonna be cool with no woman
that's gonna sit there and say you better shut up
Before I fucked Charles, I'm like, girl, dude, I'm not falling.
I will literally drag you out here, Like, girl, do
I look like falling to you? I'm a girl. I'm
a big bitch with big feet. I will literally monkey
stomp you out here. What she was like old dog
walk you. I'm like, girl, why were you so easy?
I'm like, that's the part that's getting me. I'm like, wait,
why were you so it's so easy for you to
just move on and turn the page. It seemed like
she actually did get over it the stuff with Porsche.
If you can get out with Porch, you can get
over with Shmiah. Because y'all kept saying she's her lap dog,
and now it seems like to the viewers, me now
doing Porsche's dirty work against her lap dog. I'm so
very confused right now.
Speaker 4: I called her left dog all last season.
Speaker 1: And I mean all last season. But I don't know
what's going on. Well, see what happens between Shamiyah and
kay Michelle and Shamia and everybody, honestly, because it just
seems like she has a beef with everybody. I'm also
still trying to figure out how her and Kelly became
so close, but at this point, she needs a friend
on the show, so I'm actually here for it.
Speaker 3: M h yeah, okay, I have a question. Help me
understand what's going on between Shmiyah and Cynthia, because I'm like,
this is getting weird too.
Speaker 4: It's getting weird.
Speaker 1: Now Cynthia and Shania have a beef.
Speaker 3: So it's her commentary on this season. I guess what
Smia has been a little weird. I guess she's like
acting like is she being gaged up on? She bringing
it on herself. I'm like, okay, wait a minute, Cynthia, hmmm,
it's giving. It's giving, much like it's the Porscha coated
click and then everybody else. I'm like, it's not even
Talls versus Smalls. It was like, it's interesting that you
see Porsche like not surprised by Pedro, but Porscha Pedro
is Cynthia, Angela and Drew on one side, Pinky in
the middle, and then Samiah, Caye, Michelle, and Kelly on
this side. And I'm like, this is looking really weird.
And I think Porscha said something like earlier this season
that Kay Michelle picked the wrong side, and I'm sitting
here like, yeah, this don't look right to me because
it shouldn't be teen and not saying that they're team Shamia,
but essentially they kind of are team Shamia versus teen Porsche.
And then Pinky's like, girl, I'm team She's like me
teen dinner table to a certain extent, but lean but
They're like those are my girls over there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean understand that.
Speaker 1: I think it makes you were a good season. Like
it is interesting, I will say, to see the different
clicks and like which side Ky Michelle is gonna end
up on towards the end, because as we can see
throughout these episodes, she's just been saying like, oh, I've
been seeing a new side of Shemiah. So in my head,
I'm like, oh, this friendship is probably coming to a
halt because.
Speaker 3: Like, I wont know what happened to reunion that she
now you un followed Shemia because her being cool with
Smia always was gonna read weird because of Shemia's friendship
with Candy. He's always going to be weird to me.
Speaker 1: I don't even think it was anything big though, Honestly, yeah,
I don't. I just feel like Kay Michelle is very emotional, Yeah,
and I think she's been scarred, probably from so much
of the stuff that's happened in the past with these
people that she thought with her friends and weren't. So
it just comes down to her just putting that wall up.
I think that's really what it comes down to a
lot of the times, even with Porsche, when she heard
what she heard about, I guess them possibly bringing that
story back to like when they took you know, talked
about you know what they talked about. I don't even
want to repeat that, but when they talked about that
story and she said that Porsche, Phaedra and Drew were
you know, building this whole thing against her and trying
to get her, like I guess, off the show. I
don't even know if they were trying to get her
off the show or just I don't know, talking shit
about her, But I guess what she and did she
really get to the bottom of it. I think they
just apologized, and.
Speaker 3: I think that's just kind of like apologized and moved
on because I understood why kay Mischelle was gunshot when
she sat at that tea with Kelly and Porscha going
at it, and I'm like, Okay, if I was new,
I'd be like, wait a minut, y'all just going like,
y'all going got the ball low now, and I'm like, girl,
I just got here. I'm like, I'm sorry, y'all gonna
do in front of me? What else are y'all gonna do?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: It does.
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate, though, because I do want to see her
open up more and bill genuine friendships, which I do
think that she will accomplish that with Pinky because I
do think that Pinky is a really good friend. I think,
you know, like you said, She's team dinner table is
very neutral, and I think that she will find that
friendship in Cynthia as well, maybe even Faedra. I'm not
too sure, because you know, Faedria is extremely close to Portia.
But I mean, we'll see what happens with that. But
I just don't think that it's gonna work out with
her and Shami because me is just all over the place.
Speaker 3: She Shamia and Kamis y'all have literally the same issue.
They're bringing too much real to reality TV. You're bringing
your you're bringing your heart to the screen, and in
some and a lot of times that endears us to people, right,
But I think for this it's like, y'all gonna have
to put a little bit more reality TV in here.
Stop doing this in confessionals that stop wanting to do
this like privately and off camera, do this shit on camera.
Shamiah had this conversation with Porscha, and the bad part
about it is if I look back at last season
when Shamiah was trying to have this conversation, because one,
Porsa did the same thing. She ain't want to like
hash everything out on camera with Shamia. Last season she didn't.
I'm like, it's not just Shemia. I want to keep
stuff private. Porsa kind of want to do that too,
because one, she don't want to get too real on
this camera, Like but one, if y'all going to keep
doing this stuff like on like tweeting stuff out, I'm
in the Bahamas and I'm just watching this and I'm
like time out, homie, I thought to prepare for the reunion,
y'all watched the entire season. Y'all given the episodes to watch,
So now, why are you saying, like I'm watching this now.
I'm like, huh, then how'd y'all do the reunion?
Speaker 1: That's a little strange. I don't know.
Speaker 3: So you're just saying or you're just lying. I'm like, wait, man,
y'all are giving the episodes up until the end of
the season so that y'all could hash this shit out
at the reunion, So what do you mean you just
seeing this now?
Speaker 1: And I want to ask you, bou just as like
to wrap up Housewives of Atlanta because I don't think
we can really get into too much else aside from
was there anything else to happen?
Speaker 4: I do like that they went to Scotland.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm loving, like one one, I love seeing
black people in Scotland and that very very handsome black
Scottish man. I'm like, oh, come on, TikTok. I'm on
this because I'm like, keep talking, sir. I'm sorry, I
don't care what you're talking about. When you just talk.
Speaker 1: It was a very traitorous themed episode. I did like that.
I even like the challenges at the beginning that they
were doing. I thought that was really fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, see, that's the thing. I like that
stuff because there was no conflict. They were just hav like.
That's something that I love about Atlanta, that kind of stuff.
When they're in group trips like that and they're doing
like outings, they can table a lot of this stuff.
And then the fight in the sprinter, Well they fight
at dinner, but when they're doing this kind of stuff, they're.
Speaker 4: Like, let's keep it cute in front of these people
and they have fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they do a good job with that for the
most part, aside from yeah, you know a few instances.
But I really wanted to ask you, what do you
think the cast is gonna look like net season? Who
do you think will return? Who do you think will
maybe come into the circle again, maybe some new faces,
maybe some old faces. O.
Speaker 3: The thing about it is all right, I really I
don't think Shamiah should leave, but I wouldn't be surprised
that she do, because I'm like, girl, you really, with
Jared's money, you don't need the show with the stuff
that you're do in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: You don't need this show, but.
Speaker 3: It's going to if this keeps happening, it's going to
give Jersey where it's like, this is not a sustainable model.
It's like we can have two factions on the other side,
and then y'all don't want to interact because it's going
to come to a point where they're like, I'm not
going to film with her. We don't want to get
to Jersey territory with Atlanta. It's like, we can't do that.
It's like it barely works with Jersey, and Jersey is
always a shorter season, so it's like it barely works
for Jersey. It's not going to work for Atlanta because
y'all are too integrated, honestly, and I just want this
for me because hey, Hi, I like this. Bring Candy back.
Bring her back, now, bring her back on this as
at least for a friend of now hit her and
Todd or breaking up or have broken up or its official.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's official yet.
Speaker 3: I don't mean they're co parenting, but at most, bring
her back as a friend, because when I tell you,
you want to activate Kate Michelle, bring Candy back on
this show.
Speaker 1: But the thing is Faedra would then have to take
a break.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: Because that's the only reason. I'm sorry, this is my
other hot take. The only reason why fade her back
on Atlanta because Candy not there, oh yeah, had been
that day. She'd like, it's either her or me. I
don't think Bravo would have picked Phedra.
Speaker 1: No, I don't. But from what I've been seeing too
in Candy's interviews, she doesn't really seem like she has
an interest in coming back to the show at all.
Speaker 4: She don't She's not gonna come back.
Speaker 1: She was like, fuck it. Her and Todd are finalizing
that voice. I think she's focused on Broadway and her
other business ventures.
Speaker 3: Like m hm, so I having a good time. Yeah,
it's like she focusing on other stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like, I think maybe somebody else that cans stirring apart,
maybe Marlowe. Yeah, I think, maybe make Cynthia a main
and then Marlowe like a friend of her.
Speaker 3: But I think, and I know it's they tease. They're
teasing it. They're going to tease it on Ultimate Girls Trip.
If y'all are able in some way to get Lenithia
back on this.
Speaker 4: Show, do it.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like, let's see I think they're seeing
how is Ultimate Girl's Trip going to look? It's like,
let's see how that works with Ninnie back in the
the mix. Also bring Kenya back, because I think if
Kenya had been on a show, she probably would have
been a very strong ally for ky Mischelle and also
Smia and I kind of would have had somebody stronger
in her corner.
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody that we wouldn't expect, like Mariah hook.
Speaker 4: All.
Speaker 3: That'd been cute because hey, Hi, it's like like I
wouldn't come back to Bravo.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I like, you wouldn't come back to Mary
to Medicine.
Speaker 1: But then, you know what, once I think about it now,
because I feel like the cast is kind of like
they just have like this really young type of vibe
or type of energy, and I just don't think Mariah
would miss well with that. Like I don't think she
would be into that whole thing. Maybe if the cast
was like Charae, Nini and like you know, some of
the Ogs and Phadrian, Candy and all of them, I
think that she would fit good in that. But just
like the this new energy with like Kelly should be
a Porsche.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's gotta be some other girls in Atlanta. It's like,
bring some of these like younger it girls because I
said it years ago. It's like, but it came to
Potomac Puto needed to age up and Atlanta needed to
age down, and they essentially did that with Atlanta. But
I'm like, bring in people who are like really really
good friends, because I feel like Kelly did the same
thing she did it's doing when she made it with
Britt Edie, even though Britt was a little too volatilege
should come back. No, No, I'm saying, like with Kelly,
she was like her and Brick were so so close
and they didn't know they had literally known each other
less than a year, and they were like, we are
coming in as a duo. I'm like, how, And then
this season you see Kelly doing the same thing with me, like,
oh we best friends.
Speaker 4: I'm like, girl, how.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was kind of hoping that you
said bring bread Edie back because I do think that
that would be good, even though I know she's not
gonna come back. Guys, I get it, I know, because everybody's.
Speaker 3: Like, it's like she should have came to that reunion, man, ma'am,
if you had a it seemed like Stumpy a had
of a leg to stand on.
Speaker 4: I'm like, girl, if you want to say all this,
get on that camera.
Speaker 3: That you didn't show up to the reunion. You did
all that and didn't even show up. Excuse me and
not coming back to the season. Bring Kenya summer more back,
Bring her back gives me a stronger ally because Kelly
ain't it. Because one, it's like all y'all gonna do
is get him this camera. Port're gonna say you're sleeping
with some pastor. I'm like, everybody's sleeping with a pastor now,
and like, is it the same or is it a
group of passes in a group chat?
Speaker 4: Who she on?
Speaker 3: They wives and sleep with women in Atlanta? Which one
is it?
Speaker 1: I do think there's any like somebody maybe even what
about Angel from Potomac Maybe she can move to Atlanta.
I don't know. I'm just thinking at this point, what
do you guys think? Like I want to hear some
hot takes in the comments too, Like who do you
think would be a good fit for the next season
of Housewives of Atlanta? It could be some old people,
it could be some new people. It could be hell
if you want to have the same cast, you can
say that too. But yes, boo, and thank you so
much for coming and chatting with me about Housewives of Atlanta.
It's been always got you book, but it's been a pleasure.
It always is. Where can the people find you? How
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I'm definitely going to have her back, Kay, It was
definitely going to have her back, and we got to
talk about something else. Yes, we can't wait, maybe even
when Atlanta the Reunion comes out, because I don't think
they have a certain amount of episodes.
Speaker 4: Love.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just like, if they've already, like I
think they filmed the reunion. We haven't seen video put
the reunion. Look, I have a feeling it's gonna be
coming in the next couple of weeks, two or three weeks.
I'm like, because do you think that do you think
they're going to end the season on Scotland.
Speaker 4: I don't think they are.
Speaker 1: No, I think that we have a good at least
four episodes left, okay before they stop, because it's it's
episode fourteen now, Okay, so fifteen, sixteen, seventeen. Yeah, i'd
probably say, like maybe eighteen or nineteen they'll stop on
that's usually like the thing for Atlanta. Guys. Don't fact
check me on that because I'm not one hundred percent sure,
But I think I know what I'm talking.
Speaker 4: About, Okay, yeah, because I'm like, I can't.
Speaker 3: I'm like, the reunion, I'm like, that seems kind of early, yes,
early when he put it out, I'm like, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, And thanks again, And oh make sure you
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A special shout out to Carson for holding it down
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that's that's it, guys. So until next time, by y'all.
Speaker 4: Bye,