WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.120 --> 00:00:06.120 It's with Dan Ray. I'm telling you beasy Boston Radio. 2 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:09.599 Welcome back to Night's Side. Gary Tagway, thank you very 3 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:13.240 much filling in uh or day of this evening. Appreciate it, 4 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:17.800 Dan Uh. This next guest has done so much. You 5 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:21.320 take a look at the resume and she's been really busy. 6 00:00:21.399 --> 00:00:25.039 Christy Cashman joins us. Now, Christy, we have a mutual 7 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:27.600 friend in Casey Sherman, and she told me, he says, 8 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:29.480 you got a great book out. But I look at 9 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:32.479 everything you've done, and I don't know where to begin, 10 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:36.600 quite frankly, whether it's the novel, whether it's the acting, 11 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:40.200 whether it's being an executive producer, whether it's like owning 12 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:43.560 a castle with your husband Jay in Ireland. I mean, 13 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:46.200 it's just the list goes on and on. I have 14 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:48.479 to I do want to talk about the castle because 15 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:50.679 how cool is that? How cool? 16 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:51.880 Is it very cool? 17 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:52.560 Yeah? 18 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:53.280 I bet it is. 19 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:54.280 I bet it is. 20 00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:59.119 But let's we'll start with the novel here, which, you know, 21 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:01.640 I anybody that can sit down and write a novel 22 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:04.239 I have. I have a lot of respect, respectful because 23 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:07.359 I've done it myself and it's really hard to do. Uh. 24 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:10.439 The novel is the truth about horses, and just to 25 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:13.879 tell us about it, why you wrote it? Everybody loves horses. 26 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:16.200 It looks like a terrific story, so tell us about it. 27 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:18.760 Well. 28 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:21.840 I chose the world of horses. And thank you, by 29 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:24.480 the way, thanks for having me. I'm so happy to 30 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:29.000 be on tonight. I chose the world of horses because 31 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:31.439 that's what I know. And I think a long time ago, 32 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:35.280 when when I first sort of set out to write, 33 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:39.599 someone wisely said, write what you know. And I think 34 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:44.319 that is because you know, if you know something well, 35 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:49.079 you describe it well, you kind of know all the 36 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:53.760 description of your senses. That that really is what writing 37 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:58.280 is all about, you know, describing what your senses are absorbing. 38 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:01.920 And I could do that with writing about the world 39 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:06.680 of horses. And then in terms of what the protagonist 40 00:02:06.719 --> 00:02:09.280 reas goes through with loss, I can also write about 41 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:15.960 that well because because I've experienced loss. I'm sure almost 42 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:20.960 everyone in life at some point experiences loss, and I experienced, 43 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:25.639 at a young age losing my mom. So I was 44 00:02:25.680 --> 00:02:29.400 able to write from a place of, you know, kind 45 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:31.840 of knowing what that feels like and knowing how that 46 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:34.360 makes you feel like you're kind of on the outside 47 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:36.560 looking in at the rest of the world a lot 48 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:39.800 of the time, and you know that you've all of 49 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:45.360 a sudden have this huge sort of chasm between yourself 50 00:02:45.759 --> 00:02:50.280 and everyone else. And it's not necessarily true, because a 51 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:52.879 lot of people you know go through it. It's just 52 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:55.360 what it makes you feel like. And so I could 53 00:02:55.400 --> 00:03:00.360 write that perspective from a teenager in a very believable way, 54 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:03.360 I think. And so once you have that, I think, 55 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:05.280 once you have the world, and then once you have 56 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:10.719 a believable protagonist who you kind of love but also 57 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:14.159 watch her make these horrible mistakes and sort of cringe 58 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:17.360 and think, oh my gosh, what is she doing? Then 59 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:20.159 I think you've got to you know, you've got a hook. 60 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:24.039 You'll you have hopefully you know, a reader who will 61 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:26.240 want to turn the page. And that's what I mean. 62 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:28.680 That's hard to do, really, like you said, because we 63 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:34.520 are bombarded by so much content now and books are difficult. 64 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:36.400 It's a commitment to read a book. 65 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:41.199 Well, you mentioned the main character, the protagonist, fourteen year 66 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:43.639 old Reis Tucker, and you said, obviously there's some of 67 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:47.039 you in her, are some of those mistakes in her 68 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:47.879 as well. 69 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:55.199 Some of them, but maybe different, you know, different but similar. 70 00:03:56.159 --> 00:03:56.319 You know. 71 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:58.439 I think there's a great expression that I like when 72 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:02.360 you talk about writing fix is you don't write about yourself, 73 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.439 You write out of yourself. And I think that's so true. 74 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.039 You know, that's how I felt during the whole process 75 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:13.719 of writing this book. I you know, I am not Reese. 76 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:17.360 In some ways, I kind of wish I had a 77 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:20.439 little bit more in me, maybe when I was a kid. 78 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:22.759 And so maybe she's a little bit of an alter ego, 79 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:25.480 but she's a part for sure. 80 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:28.079 You know, Well, tell us about Reese. What is she like? 81 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:30.240 Why do we Why do we care about Reeche Tucker 82 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:33.160 and her parents and how she's training horses? Why do 83 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:35.120 we care about her? 84 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:41.000 We care about her because she is so flawed and damaged, 85 00:04:41.439 --> 00:04:44.040 and I think that everybody can relate to that. You know, 86 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:52.199 she is hurting, and and she's expressing her hurt in 87 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:57.759 all the wrong ways. Instead of, you know, making herself lovable, 88 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:02.680 she's almost making herself un lovable because she's so angry 89 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:08.160 about how hurt she's been. And I think that's really common. 90 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:12.040 I think that people who are hurt are often angry. 91 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:16.120 And as a fourteen year old. That was the only 92 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:20.319 way that she could express her hurt. And aside from 93 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:23.279 the hurt of her loss, she has this father who 94 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:28.800 is avoiding all of his you know, feelings at all costs. 95 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:33.040 And so now she has, you know, a loss in 96 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:35.720 one parent and then a loss in another in terms 97 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:40.079 of he's just emotionally unavailable. Right, everyone can deal with 98 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:43.480 that too, right. Everyone knows what that's like to know 99 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:48.000 an emotionally unavailable person and live with him. You know, 100 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:51.519 we all have have lived with those people, you know, 101 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:58.120 whether they are parents or siblings or you know, or bouses, 102 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:02.439 We've all had least experience some experience with that. 103 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.079 Christy Cashman is our guest, the author of The Truth 104 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:09.560 About Horses and fourteen year old Reis Tucker, the main 105 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:13.519 character in the story where the Tucker's dream of running 106 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.560 a horse in the Black Elk, which is the big race. 107 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:18.879 I love the name the Black Elk. I want to 108 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:21.079 know where you came up with that. And if they 109 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:24.720 win this race, everything's going to be fine, right, So 110 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:26.399 is that the big moment in the story. 111 00:06:27.959 --> 00:06:31.160 Well, that's the big dream, that's the big thing that's 112 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:37.800 out there, you know. And the brass ring I guess. 113 00:06:35.079 --> 00:06:40.480 And I think in stories it's always helpful to have 114 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:45.439 that big, you know, thing that you wish for that 115 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:49.160 could change everything in your life. And and if you 116 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:53.120 could only you know, if you could, just if if 117 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:58.519 this were justin reach and and and for her family, 118 00:06:58.560 --> 00:07:01.399 that's it. I mean, there's sort of of living paycheck 119 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:03.879 by paycheck with what they do in the horse world. 120 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:09.079 But they love doing it because that's what their life 121 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:14.079 is all about, you know. I think that they have 122 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:17.560 a great life until there's a tragedy, you know, and 123 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:22.480 winning this race is part of something that would be 124 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:25.600 life changing, life altering for them for for you know, 125 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:28.120 for a long time. 126 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:31.360 And Christy, where can they pick up the book? Obviously Amazon, 127 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:32.839 but local bookstores as well. 128 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:37.319 Yeah, definitely go to your local bookstore. If they don't 129 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:39.439 have it on their shelf, ask them to take it 130 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:41.879 because I think it's great. Ask them to get it 131 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:44.279 because I think it's great to support your local bookstore. 132 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:50.399 And definitely Amazon, Target pretty much anywhere books are sold. 133 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:54.680 And I do love, like I said, supporting your local. 134 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:57.160 Bookstore the truth about horses. Now we're going to go 135 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:01.720 from books. You want to talk some movies coming up? Sure? 136 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:04.319 All right, there's one movie in particular. There's one movie 137 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:06.319 in particular if I star on your resume, I want 138 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:10.600 to discuss, and that is with filmmaker Arthur and castle 139 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:13.120 Owner Christy Cashman next to WBZ. 140 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.759 Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World 141 00:08:16.879 --> 00:08:19.879 late set Studios on WBZ News. 142 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:23.079 Radio, Garry Tag waiting for Dan Raig tonight, our guest, 143 00:08:23.160 --> 00:08:27.560 Christy Cashman, author, filmmaker and like I said, castle owner. 144 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:29.639 Not everybody can say that that's that's that's quite a 145 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:31.600 triple play man. I'll tell you that right now. 146 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:34.759 So well it's a small castle. 147 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:40.200 Okay, yeah, all right, sure fine. 148 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:39.960 Uh. 149 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:44.759 I noticed on your IMDb page and you're you're into 150 00:08:44.799 --> 00:08:49.080 the to the acting scene locally and also producing developing 151 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:52.440 films the kids are all right, you're an executive producer 152 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:56.559 on that which starred Julian Moore, Annette Benning and Mark Ruffalo. 153 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:59.159 And folks, if you're looking for a good movie to watch, 154 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:03.720 and there's not that on Netflix, watch this film. I 155 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:06.759 loved it. I thought it was original, I thought it 156 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:12.240 was creative. I thought it had heart conflict and just 157 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:14.120 to set up quick, Julian more than at Benning are 158 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:17.960 a gay couple and they have children because of Mark Ruffalo, 159 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:23.519 who was a biological father but was anonymous, and then 160 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:26.919 the kids bring him into their lives. Just how did 161 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:28.519 you get involved in the project. I thought it was 162 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:29.120 a great film. 163 00:09:30.639 --> 00:09:34.000 It was a great film. Yeah. Well, at the time, 164 00:09:34.080 --> 00:09:41.840 I was, you know, reading scripts and trying to produce basically, 165 00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:49.480 and that one came across my desk through a producer friend, 166 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:53.360 and I read it, and I thought that the writing 167 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:57.279 was pretty amazing, and the story was great and unique, 168 00:09:57.320 --> 00:10:00.000 like you said, and that's hard, you know, you don't 169 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:07.720 co across those sort of special stories very frequently. And 170 00:10:07.759 --> 00:10:10.120 as soon as I read it, I felt I felt 171 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:13.200 like it was special. But also it was it was timing, 172 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:17.480 like there was I was working on something else and 173 00:10:17.480 --> 00:10:21.000 and uh, a producer who was who was also working 174 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:26.000 on The Kids Are all right, was I was reading 175 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.480 my script and and so it's all I don't know, 176 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:33.600 it's all very serendipitous, you know, when you come across 177 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:35.799 great projects and. 178 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.480 What a cast. Oh my god, I. 179 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:41.440 Know, yeah, really amazing. I know, I have to rewatch it. 180 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:42.120 It's been a while. 181 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:44.279 It has been a while, and that's why I want 182 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:48.639 to bring it to people's attention because unfortunately, projects like 183 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:53.679 this are getting made anymore. I agree, you know, and 184 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:56.840 I don't know why do you have any idea why? 185 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:59.480 I mean, you're obviously in a in front of the 186 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:03.320 camera behind in the camera. We're seeing projects streaming like 187 00:11:03.399 --> 00:11:07.799 The Bear, which is terrific succession, but there's a lot 188 00:11:07.799 --> 00:11:13.559 of pain, there's a lot of just anger, and I'm 189 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.440 just dying. I mean, I'm a sap, you know, I'm dying. 190 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.159 For a good story. 191 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:20.200 Maybe the truth about horses. We need to get that 192 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:21.240 made into a movie. 193 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:22.440 I know. 194 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.360 Well, we might be a series, actually, is what they're 195 00:11:25.399 --> 00:11:29.320 talking about. You know, I've heard that it's a pendulum, 196 00:11:29.559 --> 00:11:33.159 is that we as a society where we sort of 197 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:38.000 the pendulum sort of swings between you know, those kind 198 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:42.639 of dark projects and the ones that are that keep 199 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:46.919 us on the edge of our seat two more heartwarming 200 00:11:47.240 --> 00:11:52.559 and comforting and you know, I don't know, joy filled 201 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:58.519 and uplifting projects, And I think that maybe this pendulum 202 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.000 is swinging. I've all also heard that it has to 203 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:05.399 do with with what we're going through in our country, 204 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:09.039 with with you know, things that are upsetting and war 205 00:12:09.240 --> 00:12:11.120 and that kind of thing. Is that if we feel 206 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:15.039 like we're on the brink of disaster in our real lives. 207 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:19.799 We want to watch more comforting films and content when 208 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:22.960 we're you know, enjoying ourselves. That kind of makes sense 209 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:24.600 to me. I don't know. I heard that somebody say 210 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:26.360 that a long time ago. I kind of believe it. 211 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:29.679 What do you think we are right now? Because the 212 00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:33.919 actors strike, as you and I both know, I must, 213 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:36.720 it had to happen. I think the union did what 214 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:40.480 they had to do, but it also set things back, 215 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:43.200 which we understand that sometimes you have to go a 216 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.279 step back to go to forward. Do you think things 217 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.679 will start coming back? Because from what I understand in 218 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.039 Hollywood and in production, things are people are in trouble, 219 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:55.519 really in trouble in Hollywood. And when I say Hollywood, 220 00:12:55.519 --> 00:12:59.639 I mean the entertainment Universe. They're not producing content like 221 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:00.720 they were two years ago. 222 00:13:02.159 --> 00:13:05.080 Yeah, I know, I've heard the same thing. I don't know. 223 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.720 That's a that's a really good question. I wish I 224 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:15.080 had the answer. It seems like maybe there are certain things, 225 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:19.159 you know, that might get made faster than others if 226 00:13:19.200 --> 00:13:25.799 they're if they're you know, if they don't require a uh, 227 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:29.960 you know, a list lead or if if they're really 228 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:33.360 plot driven or whatever. I really don't know. It's it's 229 00:13:33.399 --> 00:13:36.639 so hard to it's so hard to really predict that. 230 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:39.200 What I've been hearing is that, you know, they keep 231 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:42.840 saying fourth quarter of this year because you know, Netflix 232 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:46.840 and Amazon and Paramount Plus and Paramounts being sold and 233 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:49.440 they want to recoup their losses from the strike and 234 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:51.679 so forth, and some other unions had to go on 235 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:54.240 strike as well. So maybe we'll get back to it. 236 00:13:54.320 --> 00:13:57.600 But I see my wife sitting there, Christy, watching Instagram 237 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:06.080 and laughing. Yeah, but hours has Instagram replaced the situation comedy? 238 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:07.279 You know? Oh? 239 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:10.679 Yeah, I think absolutely. How about the fact that like 240 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:15.120 if I turn on a TV show or Netflix or 241 00:14:15.159 --> 00:14:18.759 whatever something i'm watching, I'm still scrolling, you know, I'll 242 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:23.840 we have such short attention spans. It's such a disaster. Really, 243 00:14:23.879 --> 00:14:26.240 I mean, we really don't have a lot of We 244 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:28.919 don't give anything a lot of time. And if you 245 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.519 think about it, like some of the great novels that 246 00:14:32.120 --> 00:14:35.799 we used to read by it would take page up 247 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:38.159 to page you know, fifty or one hundred until we 248 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:45.559 really built up to anything that was all shadow Well. 249 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:47.120 I also say it's crazy. 250 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:49.480 A lot of the great writers and showrunners and creative 251 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:52.279 people have become involved in series because if you have 252 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:55.320 a series like The Bear or you know, Bad Monkey, 253 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:57.120 which is based in a book that's on Apple TV 254 00:14:57.240 --> 00:14:59.919 right now, that's good, you know. You instead of making 255 00:15:00.120 --> 00:15:02.960 into a movie that's two hours, you basically make it 256 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.480 into three movies where it's an eight hour series. Yeah, 257 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.360 you know, because that's what I think has replaced quality movies. 258 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:12.639 Is the series on on Netflix or on streaming. 259 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.799 Oh, they definitely have, They definitely have. And they're really good. 260 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:19.519 They're really good. The writing is amazing, you know, it's 261 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:23.759 like they they they they're made so that we want 262 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:27.279 to binge watch them. I just started The Perfect Couple 263 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:33.919 tonight with you know, Ellen Hildebrand's adapted book, and it's 264 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:34.799 looking pretty good. 265 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:37.960 Is that with who's starring in that? 266 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:39.440 I'm sorry? 267 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:41.200 And that was filmed here? That's right, that was filmed 268 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:46.440 here in Bosmon, Yeah, and bos actually Chatham. Yeah, so 269 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:49.360 the authors from Nantucket, correct. 270 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:53.120 Yeah, Ellen Hildebrand, that's. 271 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:55.360 What I think. So the Truth about Horses that has 272 00:15:55.360 --> 00:15:57.480 a shot. If that were to be a series, would 273 00:15:57.519 --> 00:15:59.840 you go eight episodes? Would it be just a single. 274 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:03.600 I don't know what you can tell us. 275 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:07.159 I well, I think it's at least six six episodes, 276 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:11.039 but because it's broken up into three parts as a novel, 277 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:15.120 and I can easily see each part being two episodes. However, 278 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:21.080 the last producer who's interested that I spoke to felt 279 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:25.200 like that all of the characters you know, could almost 280 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:27.440 be an episode. And there are at least a dozen 281 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:32.480 characters that are you know, possibly worthy of their backstory, 282 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:35.919 worthy of fleshing out, worthy of knowing more about. So 283 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:39.480 you know, I really don't know. I mean, I'm I 284 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:44.480 would love to be part of that kind of as 285 00:16:44.519 --> 00:16:49.000 a consultant, but then get back to writing another novel 286 00:16:49.200 --> 00:16:50.639 and work on that. 287 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:55.240 Can you can you give us who would be any names? 288 00:16:55.279 --> 00:16:58.320 Any big name Hollywood people. Have you thought of anybody? 289 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:01.600 Oh my gosh, it's as far as cast I mean 290 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.200 I have, I mean I've thought of some, but there's 291 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:07.759 no I don't have any attachments as of yet. I 292 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:11.079 just have production companies who are reading it, who are 293 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:13.799 interested in, you know, and had a few bites of 294 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:18.079 the ones who are interested in potentially adapting it. 295 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:20.359 All right, Christy, before we wrap up, and before I 296 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:22.119 let you go. You have to tell me, and I 297 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:24.319 want how do you pronounce the name of your castle? 298 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:26.319 Kill key? 299 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:28.960 Kill key? Okay there, I was gonna say kill key, 300 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:32.000 but kill key. And it's a it's also it's a 301 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:33.440 hotel now right from what I. 302 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:35.359 Understand, Yeah, it's a resort. 303 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:38.240 Yeah, it's a resort. How did this happen? How did 304 00:17:38.279 --> 00:17:39.960 you and jail? How do we're going to go buy 305 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:42.440 a castle? I mean, this is this is great. This 306 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:44.160 is great, you know talking to the family. What have 307 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:46.079 you guys done? Well, you know, we just picked up 308 00:17:46.079 --> 00:17:47.599 a castle. How did this happen? 309 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:56.240 That's hilarious kind of like that. No, uh, I've been 310 00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:00.160 going over to Ireland for years horseback riding, and this 311 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.279 is even you know, before I met my husband, and 312 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:06.559 he's half Irish and he had never been to Ireland 313 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:10.160 and we met and I was going over I was 314 00:18:10.200 --> 00:18:12.880 heading over there with a group to go riding and 315 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:15.920 and and we had just started dating, and he said, 316 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:18.599 well I should come along, and I was like, well, okay, 317 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:20.400 but I don't know what you're going to do when 318 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:23.599 I'm on a horse all day long, because you know, 319 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:27.880 it's sort of a whole day affair. Over there, and 320 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:30.640 because you oftentimes, you know, you stay at a hotel 321 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.240 and you have to drive two hours to wherever you're 322 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:37.200 going to do the you know, the long trek on horseback, 323 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:39.559 and then the trek is four to six hours and 324 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:41.400 then it's been you know, all day. So I was like, well, 325 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:43.119 I don't know, I'm not sure what your plan is 326 00:18:43.119 --> 00:18:47.279 because he doesn't really ride, and he said, well, just 327 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:51.839 go look for a castle. I definitely thought he was 328 00:18:51.920 --> 00:18:55.599 joking at the time, but then as the years went by, 329 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:59.240 he kept looking and and you know, kind of checking 330 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:04.279 out different props and and we were married a Dare manor, 331 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:09.920 which is in a Dare, Ireland near County in County Limerick, 332 00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:14.000 and at one point he was, you know, he was 333 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:18.319 thinking he might buy that, but kill Key came up 334 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:24.400 and that was actually more interesting because it was a 335 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.880 little more raw. It's a little more out in an 336 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:31.279 area where it's closer to Dublin, and but it's at 337 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:34.240 the same time it's far away from everything. So you know, 338 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:36.319 it takes about an hour and fifteen minutes to get 339 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:39.839 there from Dublin and you really are in the middle 340 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:45.400 of the most beautiful Irish countryside is beautiful. Oh my gosh. 341 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:49.000 But County Kildare horse farm after horse farm after horse farm, 342 00:19:49.119 --> 00:19:51.960 and you know, a lot of Ireland is getting developed 343 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:53.640 and so a lot of the other properties that we 344 00:19:53.640 --> 00:19:56.799 were looking at were being kind of encroached on by 345 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:02.279 developments and this one wasn't, and so that was definitely appealing, 346 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:04.920 as well as the fact that it's an actual fortress. 347 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:07.359 A lot of you know a lot of people like 348 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:09.359 to say they have a castle, but they don't have a. 349 00:20:09.319 --> 00:20:11.440 Real Do you have a moat? Do you have a moat? 350 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:17.039 There was a moat who was a moat, and so 351 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:20.880 it actually really was a fortress for one and it's 352 00:20:20.920 --> 00:20:27.839 one of the oldest still inhabited fortresses. So that's kind 353 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:30.200 of cool. You know. It's the it dates back to 354 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:31.519 eleven eighty, that's. 355 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:34.640 A basic that's Is it haunted? Is there haunted? There's 356 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:36.279 going to be a ghost around there somewhere, or has 357 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:40.160 anybody ever? You got to think about this. Somebody has 358 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:46.400 been beheaded in that castle, maybe recently. Who knows. 359 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:49.599 That. Comes on over and check it out. 360 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:51.720 Yeah, yet that put that on the brochure. 361 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:57.279 You know, well you got to come visit us. I'll 362 00:20:57.319 --> 00:20:58.160 try to a golfer. 363 00:20:58.279 --> 00:21:00.759 I'll try to work it into the schedule. I'm not 364 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.519 really I know, I'm not really. 365 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:05.839 I'm not either. I'm not either. But I like to 366 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:09.279 mess around and just go out and you know, and 367 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:12.000 try and it's fun. I don't take myself seriously, so 368 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:14.720 every once in a while I can hit the ball. 369 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:17.880 I could just go over and get some corned beef 370 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:19.240 and cabbage and I'd leave it at that. 371 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:23.000 Yeah, I should just I should just stay on a horse. 372 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:25.880 Really well, The Truth About Horses. Check it out. You 373 00:21:25.960 --> 00:21:30.160 can get it at your local bookstore also online. Terrific story. 374 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:34.559 And hopefully we'll see that in a series someplace soon. 375 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:37.839 And best of luck with the Castle, best of luck 376 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:40.079 with and hopefully we got some more movie production coming 377 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:42.160 to Massachusetts, so we'll keep our fingers crossed. 378 00:21:43.640 --> 00:21:46.599 Yes and toes yeah, yes, all the all of the above. 379 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:48.920 Christy, thanks for joining us. Good to talk to you. 380 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:52.839 Likewise, thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it. 381 00:21:52.960 --> 00:21:57.559 No problem, Christy Cassman joining us, author, producer, Castle Owner 382 00:21:58.119 --> 00:22:02.960 again the debut novel, The Truth Horses. It's a terrific story. 383 00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:07.160 Young adult novel. Fourteen year old rysh Tucker along with 384 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:10.359 their parents raised and train horses, and she has a 385 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:13.039 dream of running a horse in the Black Elk, a 386 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:15.880 race that if they wanted to turn their fortunes around, 387 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:18.920 sounds like a good one to me. All right, Still 388 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:22.400 to come WBC's Night Side. Some late breaking developments regarding 389 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:24.359 the shooting in Georgia that I want to discuss with 390 00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:27.119 you and we will talk about the Patriots have coming 391 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:29.799 season when the ko yang at eleven o'clock right here 392 00:22:29.799 --> 00:22:30.440 on WBC. 393 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:37.759 You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's 394 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:38.440 news radio. 395 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:44.200 Carry tag away for Dan tonight here on WBC, and 396 00:22:44.680 --> 00:22:48.720 thank you, Dann. We appreciate that. So some late breaking 397 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:51.880 developments in the tragedy in the Georgia schools shooting. Just 398 00:22:56.240 --> 00:22:58.359 so the father of Colt Gray, who is the fourteen 399 00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:03.039 year old young man who murdered four people, so he's 400 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:07.119 definitely going away forever. The father, Colin Grade fifty four, 401 00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:11.759