1
00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:19,559
Speaker 1: At a.

2
00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:28,879
Speaker 2: Book.

3
00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,959
Speaker 1: If you'd like to be able to listen to the

4
00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,000
show without ads and have full access to bonus content,

5
00:01:32,359 --> 00:01:35,599
that's an option. To find out how, please go to

6
00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:42,239
Dogmanencounters dot com forward slash Podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so

7
00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,120
much for joining us for another livestream episode of the show.

8
00:01:45,599 --> 00:01:49,959
I really appreciate you being here. It's funny since the

9
00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,959
past two weeks have gone by, I've gotten tons of

10
00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,599
messages where people think that I just took a two

11
00:01:55,599 --> 00:01:58,920
week hiatus I did hear any episodes, But that couldn't

12
00:01:58,959 --> 00:02:02,599
be further from the truth. I actually did air two episodes.

13
00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,879
I even mentioned that a little over two weeks ago,

14
00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:10,360
I think three weeks ago, that the next show, the

15
00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,879
show the following week wouldn't be YouTube friendly, so with

16
00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,919
that in mind, it would only be available in podcast

17
00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:20,759
format on your favorite podcast app. Well, a lot of

18
00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,639
people they don't have a favorite podcast app. Apparently they

19
00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,199
didn't know how to find any podcast apps. I'm going

20
00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,639
to make this really easy for you. If you just

21
00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:36,719
go to Dogmanencounters dot com and visit the podcast page,

22
00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,240
you'll find that I've got links to twelve podcast apps

23
00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,479
where if you click on the link it'll take your

24
00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,520
right to the show's channel on that podcast app. So

25
00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,520
if you do that and look up episodes five sixty

26
00:02:52,599 --> 00:02:55,800
two and five sixty three, then you'll be able to

27
00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,120
listen to those two last most recent episodes of the show.

28
00:02:59,159 --> 00:03:02,520
That if you didn't know to look there, then you

29
00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,120
missed those episodes. Well, also to you, I want to

30
00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,919
make another announcement, put something else out there for you.

31
00:03:09,719 --> 00:03:12,120
Towards the end of tonight's show, I've got a big

32
00:03:12,159 --> 00:03:15,960
announcement I'm gonna make, So please stick with this. Please

33
00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,080
don't go anywhere. After we close out the recording with

34
00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:24,560
tonight's guest and speaking of him without further ado, let's

35
00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,520
get him in here now. Tonight's guest is Dominic dom

36
00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:30,759
Welcome to the show.

37
00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:32,759
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

38
00:03:33,199 --> 00:03:36,520
Speaker 1: Oh you know you're welcome. Dom Please give us a

39
00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,000
brief bio in yourself.

40
00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:43,319
Speaker 2: My name's Dominic Jones. Live here in New York City, PA.

41
00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:48,280
Used to live in Gettysburg and Harrisburg a few years back.

42
00:03:51,479 --> 00:03:54,560
I only just started high school too, and which makes

43
00:03:54,560 --> 00:04:01,840
this whole thing even more crazy. And uh, it's about

44
00:04:01,879 --> 00:04:02,240
it for me.

45
00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got enough going on in your life when

46
00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,280
you're starting high school. You don't need anything like a dogman,

47
00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,960
a counter complicating things. That's definitely not good.

48
00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,439
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree anymore.

49
00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, it's understandable. Dom. Your encounter happened the week

50
00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,079
of July nineteenth, of twenty twenty two. Actually at your

51
00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,720
pop Pop's property. Is your pop pop your dad or

52
00:04:28,759 --> 00:04:29,800
your grandpa.

53
00:04:31,199 --> 00:04:31,920
Speaker 2: My grandpa?

54
00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,199
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, I see were you on his property at

55
00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,839
the time, without revealing any of the particulars about the

56
00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:46,319
actual encounter itself, Yeah, in a backyard. Okay, I see,

57
00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,399
if you're in the backyard, what can you tell us

58
00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:51,079
about his property?

59
00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:59,600
Speaker 2: So on either side was the creek, and then you're

60
00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,240
foliage and then the rest of the forest and the

61
00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:10,040
back So on the right side of the backyard was

62
00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,680
the gravel path which led to the garage, and then

63
00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,839
heading straight from the back of the trailer was like

64
00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,519
the main part of the woods.

65
00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,000
Speaker 1: How big was that woods?

66
00:05:28,879 --> 00:05:37,240
Speaker 2: Say, about probably about five miles out?

67
00:05:39,759 --> 00:05:42,079
Speaker 1: It had a span of about five miles.

68
00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,680
Speaker 2: Uh yep. And then it connected to some corn fields

69
00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,319
and then into the mountainous regions.

70
00:05:51,959 --> 00:05:54,480
Speaker 1: No wonder you had a dog men hanging around? What

71
00:05:54,519 --> 00:05:56,160
did you have in the way of moving the water.

72
00:05:59,319 --> 00:06:04,839
Speaker 2: There was mainly a dock like a boating dock where

73
00:06:04,879 --> 00:06:10,360
you could store boats and you know, get him out

74
00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:15,120
whenever you would like, which was the only thing kind

75
00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,720
of cutting off the path of the creek.

76
00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:23,680
Speaker 1: Was it a fairly large creek or almost a brook?

77
00:06:23,879 --> 00:06:28,360
Speaker 2: It was so small, that's say, fairly large creek went

78
00:06:28,399 --> 00:06:30,000
all the way to the mountains.

79
00:06:30,759 --> 00:06:32,680
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, like I said, no wonder you had a

80
00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,879
dog man hanging around. From what I understand, your pop

81
00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,360
pop was with you when you saw that dog man.

82
00:06:38,439 --> 00:06:44,079
What kind of an effected seeing it have on him?

83
00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,480
Speaker 2: I'd say, kind of the same effect on me, except

84
00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:51,279
I'm not sure what it was. But he seemed a

85
00:06:51,319 --> 00:06:56,439
little unfazed by it, and like he kind of brushed

86
00:06:56,439 --> 00:06:59,160
it off the come morning.

87
00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,360
Speaker 1: That's interesting if he was unfazed. It sure makes me

88
00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,480
wonder if you might have had another experience that he

89
00:07:07,519 --> 00:07:10,399
didn't tell you about. Did he ever tell you about

90
00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:13,439
any strange experiences that he might have had that involved

91
00:07:13,519 --> 00:07:19,800
a dog man? Not that I can recall now. Sure

92
00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,240
it does make you wonder because seeing a dog man

93
00:07:22,279 --> 00:07:25,160
for the first time normally has some pretty wide, sweeping,

94
00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,560
prominent effects on how a person is going to react,

95
00:07:29,879 --> 00:07:33,519
So that's pretty strange. You listened to the show for

96
00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,519
a long time before he had that experience. Was that

97
00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,600
because you believed in existence of dog men or did

98
00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,399
you see the show as just a form of entertainment.

99
00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,439
Speaker 2: I used to listen. I still listen to it every night,

100
00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:55,319
but me and my dad would actually play the stories

101
00:07:55,319 --> 00:07:59,120
and fall asleep to him. But yeah, I believed him

102
00:08:00,759 --> 00:08:01,839
way before the encounter.

103
00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,959
Speaker 1: I'm glad you did, and as you saw, they really

104
00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,759
do exist. Do you think the fact that you'd been

105
00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,279
listening to the show before you had that experience helped

106
00:08:12,319 --> 00:08:15,519
you or hindered you when it came to your ability

107
00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:16,439
to deal with it.

108
00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,279
Speaker 2: I'd say helped definitely.

109
00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm sure you can only imagine, having experienced it yourself,

110
00:08:26,759 --> 00:08:28,680
how traumatic it would have been if you didn't even

111
00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,399
know about these guys being in existence, if it just

112
00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:34,720
was laid on you without any warning, that would really

113
00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:40,279
heighten the difficulty you would have had. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

114
00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,679
So you said that your pop pop handled it pretty well,

115
00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,440
he took it and stride, and you said it affected

116
00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:51,759
you pretty much the same way. Does that mean you

117
00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:58,919
never had any trouble with nightmares, any lingering effects at all.

118
00:08:57,279 --> 00:09:00,320
Speaker 2: I'd say for like the next month or base the

119
00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,320
rest of summer, I was like way too scared to

120
00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,320
even go outside, and like the nightmares were like horrible.

121
00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,639
Speaker 1: If that's the case, it did affect you pretty strongly,

122
00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,480
which is to be expected. I mean, it's not going

123
00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,159
to give you the warm and fuzzies to have an

124
00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,200
experience like that. I'm wondering, though, now that you've seen

125
00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,360
a dog man with your own two eyes, what do

126
00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,039
you think they are? Do you think they're spiritual beings

127
00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,639
or flesh and blood creatures?

128
00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:34,320
Speaker 2: But saying they're flesh and blood just a part of

129
00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:36,159
nature just out there.

130
00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,000
Speaker 1: You just might be right about that. It's hard to

131
00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:45,039
say for sure. All right, don please tell us about

132
00:09:45,039 --> 00:09:47,679
that encounter. Now, give us everal last detail that comes

133
00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,120
to mind. All right.

134
00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,320
Speaker 2: So, earlier that week, my mom dropped me off so

135
00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,080
we could spend time with my pop pop, you know,

136
00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,639
hang out with him, since he was going through his

137
00:10:00,759 --> 00:10:05,759
battles with cancer. So we were dropped off so we

138
00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:10,279
could just hang out. And later that week he showed

139
00:10:10,279 --> 00:10:13,559
me this go cart and we started working on it together,

140
00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,200
trying to fix it because it was a really old

141
00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,000
old go cart. So we were fixing it and he

142
00:10:22,039 --> 00:10:25,360
told me to go drive it around test it. So

143
00:10:25,399 --> 00:10:26,960
I took it up to the top of a hill

144
00:10:27,799 --> 00:10:32,080
that was that left of the right side of the

145
00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,120
backyard where it was the gravel in the road, and

146
00:10:36,279 --> 00:10:39,600
I was going down the hill and the brakes weren't working,

147
00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,559
so I had to skid to a hole. And it's

148
00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:49,480
about seven thirty forty ish in the afternoon, so the

149
00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:55,559
sun's just barely going down. And as I'm skidding to

150
00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:00,399
the hole at the bottom of this gravel, I hear

151
00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,200
snorting noise coming from this foliage that's about eight feet tall,

152
00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,519
and I'm like about nine feet away, and I look

153
00:11:08,639 --> 00:11:13,840
up and I just see these like the top muzzle

154
00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,720
of what looks like a dog. It looks like almost

155
00:11:17,799 --> 00:11:21,399
like a German shepherd, but its ears are perked straight

156
00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,399
up and it has these like amber eyes. And it

157
00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:30,600
was just disgusting. And the smell, the smell from the thing,

158
00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:37,799
it was really bad. It smelled like garbage and like, uh, decay,

159
00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:43,039
that's what smell it, Yeah, garbage and decay. And it's

160
00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:47,519
just staring straight at me, and it's like ten seconds

161
00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:50,919
of just us looking at each other, and that thing's

162
00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:56,480
breathing really loudly, and then it clicks in my head.

163
00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:01,519
Oh sorry, it clicks in my head that this is

164
00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,080
the thing, that's the thing from the stories that I've

165
00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,120
been listening to. So I get up from the go

166
00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,720
kart and I'm running back to the where the trailer is,

167
00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,240
and I'm like screaming that there's a dog man and

168
00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,159
you need to look at it. So my pop Pop

169
00:12:17,399 --> 00:12:20,480
he turns around and he he looks at this thing,

170
00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:24,519
and it's like, I guess it was watching me run

171
00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:29,120
like run straight to him, and then it starts booking

172
00:12:29,159 --> 00:12:31,360
it into the woods and you could hear it. Its

173
00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,919
feet had to be so massive, because every time it

174
00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,759
took a step, it was like a small little boom.

175
00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:43,960
And he was talking to the neighbor about doing some

176
00:12:44,039 --> 00:12:47,720
reconstruction on his house, and the neighbor he didn't see it,

177
00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,919
but he definitely heard it too. And for the rest

178
00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,559
of the day, I was all shook up. And that

179
00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,000
was basically the talk for like every conversation was about it.

180
00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like you did have a lot to

181
00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,080
talk about. How far were you from Pop Pop's trailer

182
00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:11,799
when you saw it?

183
00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:18,720
Speaker 2: For the first time, probably about fifteen feet.

184
00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:23,799
Speaker 1: Oh close, You're really close at that point. If you

185
00:13:23,799 --> 00:13:27,000
were only fifteen feet away from his trailer, was his

186
00:13:27,159 --> 00:13:30,120
door pretty much right there, just about fifteen feet away

187
00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,360
from me as well? Or was it further away?

188
00:13:34,039 --> 00:13:35,879
Speaker 2: It was a further away.

189
00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:39,840
Speaker 1: Because it was further away. Is that why you didn't

190
00:13:39,879 --> 00:13:42,639
bail off of the go kart and run for the

191
00:13:42,639 --> 00:13:44,840
front door or was it another reason?

192
00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,559
Speaker 2: It kind of just went through my head that I

193
00:13:49,639 --> 00:13:52,759
had to get up and go, and I didn't want

194
00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:56,120
to stay there where I was out of sight from

195
00:13:56,279 --> 00:13:59,399
where my pop pop and the neighbor were, So that's

196
00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,960
why I got up. I left the go cart behind

197
00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,080
and just started running.

198
00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, at first I thought it didn't really affect you

199
00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,039
all that much, but it definitely sounds like it did,

200
00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:14,720
and like I said, also understandably so you never expected

201
00:14:14,759 --> 00:14:16,759
to see something like this, even if you listen to

202
00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:19,000
the show. You never do expect to have a dog

203
00:14:19,039 --> 00:14:22,440
in an encounter until you do have one. How tall

204
00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,159
would you say it was? He said that you could

205
00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:26,799
hear the impacts of its feet hitting the ground as

206
00:14:26,799 --> 00:14:27,440
it was running.

207
00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:34,840
Speaker 2: Looking at the foliage, being about about eight feet maybe

208
00:14:34,879 --> 00:14:38,120
a little higher and seeing to the top of where

209
00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:45,360
that thing's ears were, I'd say almost nine feet or like.

210
00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,919
Couldn't really get a good estimate since I was sitting

211
00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:49,759
down on the go kart.

212
00:14:51,759 --> 00:14:54,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would make it more difficult. If you had

213
00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,919
to guess on a weight, what would you.

214
00:14:55,879 --> 00:15:03,720
Speaker 2: Say, Well, based off the way it was running, say

215
00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:11,279
definitely over three hundred pounds. That thing was booming.

216
00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,679
Speaker 1: If it was making noise like that and it was

217
00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,279
a nine footer, then yeah, I'm pretty sure it weighed

218
00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,399
quite a bit more than three hundred pounds. I wouldn't

219
00:15:20,399 --> 00:15:23,080
be surprised if it was closer to maybe seven or

220
00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,200
eight hundred. But I wasn't there, you were. It might

221
00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:29,639
have been interrex sick. How would you describe its build

222
00:15:29,759 --> 00:15:33,279
speaking of that? Was it really thin or more powerfully built?

223
00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:38,360
Speaker 2: That's the part I didn't really see because he was

224
00:15:38,399 --> 00:15:42,519
covered up. Well, I'd assume it was a he covered

225
00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:49,960
up by the brush, so all I saw was the

226
00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,080
top of its muzzle. And there isn't a bear in

227
00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:58,120
the world that we had in that part of the

228
00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:01,200
county that would ever have a looked like that thing,

229
00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,799
So I'd say it probably was muscular.

230
00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would fit the mold they normally are. But

231
00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,200
then again, like I said, I wasn't there and you were,

232
00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:16,559
there are some that are skinny, so you never know.

233
00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:21,120
Pop Pop saw that dog me unto you said, With

234
00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,879
that in mind, did he implement some new rules for you,

235
00:16:25,039 --> 00:16:27,279
what you could do, what you couldn't do, to try

236
00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,480
and keep you safe.

237
00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:35,240
Speaker 2: I remember we weren't able to go near the woods

238
00:16:35,399 --> 00:16:39,799
without him or someone else nearby, because we used to

239
00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,919
just be able to go in there perfectly fine until

240
00:16:43,919 --> 00:16:44,559
that happened.

241
00:16:46,879 --> 00:16:49,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely does compliment kate things when you have

242
00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,159
a dog men running around. I know the answer is

243
00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,120
probably no, but to be thorough, I'm gonna ask you anyway,

244
00:16:56,519 --> 00:17:00,159
did either you or Pop Pop share this information with

245
00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,919
any neighbors about what you had seen?

246
00:17:03,799 --> 00:17:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the neighbors came over and we were all talking

247
00:17:08,519 --> 00:17:09,000
about it.

248
00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,799
Speaker 1: What they have to say.

249
00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:23,559
Speaker 2: I remember my aunt she said that well, she didn't

250
00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:27,160
believe it, but she was on the other side of

251
00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,599
the trailer park, so of course she didn't believe it.

252
00:17:32,079 --> 00:17:35,400
But the neighbor who was there, he said that it

253
00:17:35,559 --> 00:17:39,759
actually happened. I tried to say that it did happen.

254
00:17:39,839 --> 00:17:43,920
My pop tried like we tried to convince the others

255
00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:50,119
that it was real, but they didn't really listen.

256
00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how it normally goes. If your aunt didn't

257
00:17:55,319 --> 00:17:58,240
believe you and pop Pop, did that cause any friction

258
00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:01,240
between the two of them because she's calling him a

259
00:18:01,279 --> 00:18:04,440
liar If he says something happened and she says, no,

260
00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:05,519
I don't believe it.

261
00:18:08,599 --> 00:18:13,960
Speaker 2: I remember he kind of just said that it doesn't

262
00:18:14,039 --> 00:18:17,200
really matter if she had believed it or not, but

263
00:18:17,519 --> 00:18:21,440
he said that it happened and that he knew that

264
00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:22,519
it was real.

265
00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,720
Speaker 1: It's really a shame when you're a well adjusted adult

266
00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,079
and you have this experience you never asked to have

267
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,039
in the first place, and then when you go to

268
00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:36,960
tell family members and friends about it they rebuff you.

269
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,960
It really is a shame, it really is. What can

270
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,799
you tell us about Its coat.

271
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:52,559
Speaker 2: Had like this, I'd say, like really dark brown coat

272
00:18:53,440 --> 00:19:00,240
with those like a German shepherd like a Orangish coat. Streaks,

273
00:19:00,279 --> 00:19:03,079
like around where the top of its head would be

274
00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:08,880
was that dark colored fur. And then what I'd assume

275
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:15,119
is around where like cheekbones would be, you could see

276
00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,839
something coming up of that like a German shepherd type

277
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,119
color and the rest of the head was that dirty brown.

278
00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:26,440
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about the length of its coat?

279
00:19:26,759 --> 00:19:33,640
Speaker 2: See, it looked really mangy, like that diseased looking coat.

280
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,720
Speaker 1: Huh, Yeah, it might have had means just hard to say.

281
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,799
Does that mean that where it did have fur, it

282
00:19:41,839 --> 00:19:47,880
was the same length all over its body.

283
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,759
Speaker 2: Now kind of recalling it on the side of Yes,

284
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,160
if I was looking out of this thing's eyes, the

285
00:19:54,279 --> 00:19:59,000
left side of its face had like, yes, a shorter

286
00:19:59,079 --> 00:20:02,599
patch of hair near where its eye and up to

287
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,000
its muzzle would be like, that's kind of like a

288
00:20:09,839 --> 00:20:13,000
just less hair there, and kind of that you could

289
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:18,119
see some of its skin basically, especially near the eye.

290
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 1: As it was running away from you and pop pop.

291
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,279
What kind of an angle did it take at any point?

292
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,039
Was it running straight away or was it always running

293
00:20:28,079 --> 00:20:28,720
at an angle?

294
00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:34,519
Speaker 2: So it was running more towards the right where the

295
00:20:34,519 --> 00:20:37,319
creek was, and like heading in that direction.

296
00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like you still got a really good

297
00:20:43,319 --> 00:20:46,039
view of its backside if that's the case. Did you

298
00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:46,720
see a tail?

299
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,599
Speaker 2: Not really, because the second I guess it ran away,

300
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,799
I was already halfway towards the trailer.

301
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 1: Understandable, no harm there. I definitely understand it. I get it.

302
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,000
If it was running away from you and you didn't

303
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,440
see a tail. This all happened in Pennsylvania, So by

304
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,559
chance did you notice if it had if it possibly

305
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,960
had a mean on it?

306
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:27,319
Speaker 2: HM? Mean, I don't think so.

307
00:21:27,599 --> 00:21:34,079
Speaker 1: No, huh in Pennsylvania. That's kind of strange, but you

308
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,119
never know they have variances. What about its ears? Would

309
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,200
you describe its ears as being more in the sides

310
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,880
of its head or on top of its head?

311
00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 2: More of on top of its head?

312
00:21:48,759 --> 00:21:50,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that fits for a chiline type dog.

313
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:50,839
Speaker 2: Man.

314
00:21:52,039 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't put words in your mouth, though.

315
00:21:54,559 --> 00:21:56,359
How would you describe its leg structure?

316
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: It's oh, could you repeat that real quick?

317
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: Sure, no problem. How do you describe its legs structure?

318
00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:07,079
In other words, would you describe its legs is being

319
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,039
more like that of a dog's back legs or a

320
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,519
human's back legs or human's legs? I should say.

321
00:22:16,279 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 2: That part I also didn't see, but based off the

322
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:29,279
the tracks I saw the next morning, say probably the

323
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,839
dog legs.

324
00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:35,839
Speaker 1: So I definitely was a canine type, well canine type

325
00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:38,920
with ears on top of its head, digitigrade style legs.

326
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:44,400
That does fit they both do. After that experience, were

327
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,119
there any times when, maybe late at night, you heard

328
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,640
some sounds that didn't fit, didn't sound like an ordinary

329
00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:52,160
run to the mill animal?

330
00:22:54,720 --> 00:23:00,599
Speaker 2: Oh, eleven, I remember eleven thirty five. I really couldn't

331
00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:03,799
sleep that whole night. And I was in the living

332
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:10,640
room and the window that was facing towards the like

333
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,920
the side of the trailer. There was something at like

334
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,279
walking around and at the window, and you could hear

335
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,759
it grunting and like just you could hear the gravel

336
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,880
being shifted and then like onto the grass part, and

337
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,640
then it would come up more to like the front

338
00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:37,599
of the house, no, not house trailer, more to the

339
00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:40,559
front of the trailer, and then back to the window.

340
00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: Speaking of it running away like you just touched on there,

341
00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:51,240
that brings up another good question for you. What kind

342
00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:53,880
of substrate was it running on as it ran away?

343
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,000
In other words, what kind of ground surface was it

344
00:23:57,079 --> 00:23:57,480
running on?

345
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: It was like for me currently like the high brush,

346
00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:12,000
and it's a kind of wetter ground.

347
00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:17,599
Speaker 1: Well, if it was running through brush like that and

348
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,319
fairly wet ground, then it must have left some prints.

349
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,200
Did you ever go through that area to look for

350
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:25,079
Prince yep.

351
00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: Immediately in the morning, I told my pop that there

352
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,119
was something that was running around that night. We went outside,

353
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,640
we saw tracks like in the more of the grass

354
00:24:40,079 --> 00:24:43,200
and the like, not too much of the gravel, but

355
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,960
it had definitely been disrupted of such, and we started

356
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,759
following it back through the brush where I saw it

357
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,440
originally and he had saw it. At first, I didn't

358
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,880
want to go in because I thought something bad might happen,

359
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,799
but we pushed through the brush and we find the

360
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,359
prints on this thing, and even now looking back, that

361
00:25:08,599 --> 00:25:12,880
thing's feet had to be like three times three times

362
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,160
the size of my hand alone. We followed it to

363
00:25:16,279 --> 00:25:23,279
the creek, and about quarter of a mile out we

364
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:29,559
find a deer that had been completely just mauled, like

365
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,960
parts of where its rib cage would be were just

366
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,599
chunks taken out, and from its chest down to more

367
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:46,359
of like its waste area had been destroyed and tossed

368
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,279
around near the creek, and like chunks of it were

369
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,880
just everywhere, and its throat was still intact, which, man,

370
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,960
it couldn't have been any animal that I know that

371
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,559
does that, because there was no wild dogs around that area.

372
00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:09,079
The only the biggest animal I saw around there that

373
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,160
wasn't that thing was a fox, and to see that

374
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:18,400
deer like that, we immediately turned back and we did

375
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,880
not want any part of what we assumed was actually

376
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,720
at that creek.

377
00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:30,599
Speaker 1: If you found those prints like you did, what more

378
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,359
can you tell us about how those prints looked? I

379
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,640
guess I should probably preface this before I ask you

380
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,240
to do that, so that you know, any quadrupedal animal

381
00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:47,720
that walks in a digitigrade manner, deer, dogs, whatever, that

382
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:51,000
walks on all fours, that walks on its toes, the

383
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:55,400
very front prints that it leaves are always bigger than

384
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,680
its rear prints. If the animal is a quadruped that

385
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:03,519
walks planta grade, then the back feet the back prints

386
00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:07,440
are bigger than the fronts. But having said all that,

387
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,160
understand that the biggest prince that a wolf has ever

388
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:15,240
left were five inches wide six inches long. Their prints

389
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:19,000
are more elongated in appearance than a dog's prints are going

390
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:21,960
to be, for example. But with that in mind, how

391
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:24,839
do you describe the size of these prints? And were

392
00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:27,759
there any particular features about the prince that stood out

393
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,640
besides that?

394
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: Well, I'd definitely say the prints were like deep in

395
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,480
the earth, like the ground, if you will, like very deep,

396
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,599
and I think now if I was to put my

397
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,160
hand in it, it would be probably about a foot

398
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,640
wide or no more than a foot wide, probably a

399
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,839
foot and a half wide. Oh, I'll also be in

400
00:27:58,839 --> 00:28:05,960
like it's really hard to describe, but just these massive

401
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:15,039
prints and they looked, uh like so in the front

402
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:17,799
of each of these toes which I'd assume they were

403
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,920
were like especially like dug into and then kind of

404
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:28,400
like ripped out of where I'd assume it was running from,

405
00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:34,279
and it looked like a dog dog's foot each step,

406
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,960
but also with that part of the ground ripped out

407
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,799
by what I'd assume is the what are they called

408
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:51,119
claws on its feet or the nails on its toes.

409
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it feels a dog man that it had

410
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:00,440
claws on its feet. But eighteen inch wide. You said

411
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,240
that the prince looked to be about eighteen inches wide.

412
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: M taking a rough guess, i'd say about that. Yeah.

413
00:29:10,519 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: Wow, I've never heard of prince approaching that size. I've

414
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,400
heard of them being about the size of a dinner

415
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,960
plate for a twelve footer, but never anything even approaching

416
00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:22,279
eighteen inches wide. Is there any possibility that as it

417
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,440
ran through that area that the ground was soggy enough

418
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,640
where it was pulling up mud, and that enlarged the prince.

419
00:29:30,839 --> 00:29:33,599
So the prince looked bigger than the actual feet that

420
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,559
left the prince.

421
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: M Yeah, yeah, that would make more sense.

422
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:45,599
Speaker 1: Something was going on if you found eighteen inch wide prints, Yeah,

423
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,359
something was going on to make those prints bigger than

424
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,759
what was actually sticking into the ground in the form

425
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:54,519
of feet, because yeah, their feet just don't get that big.

426
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,880
They get huge, like I said, dinner plate sized, And

427
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,039
when you see a cannid print as the size of

428
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:02,799
a dinner plate, that gets your motor running. But yeah,

429
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:05,039
nothing that's eighteen inches wide or like I said, even

430
00:30:05,119 --> 00:30:07,880
approaching that. So it makes me wonder what was going

431
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:13,680
on there. Did you notice a left left, right right

432
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:20,039
or a left right left right pattern to those prints.

433
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: Say the left right, left, right, left right, so.

434
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: It definitely was running on two legs in Yeah. The

435
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,880
reason why I asked that is if you see a

436
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,559
left left, right right pattern, then it's quadrupedal. If it's

437
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,440
left right, left right, then obviously it's running bipedal. So

438
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,880
that's why I asked you about that. Well, let's get

439
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,200
into some of the listeners' questions from the live chat. Now,

440
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,519
the first question would be from d Truth and D

441
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,279
wants to know how big was the head compared to

442
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:53,720
a German shepherd's head, and also he wants to know

443
00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:55,480
did you see any teeth.

444
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: I didn't see any teeth since it was on about

445
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,519
top part of its muzzle, so about where its nose

446
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:08,799
would be hanging like over the foliage, So I didn't

447
00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:16,359
see anything below that. But its head was like massive,

448
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,039
this like massive head, and best thing I can use

449
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:28,960
to describe its head it would probably be about hm see,

450
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,839
like compared to a German shepherd's head, like about almost

451
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,079
three times the size of a German shepherd's head.

452
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,359
Speaker 1: Well, that's a pretty big head. But if it's a

453
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,359
nine footer, then yeah, I could have a head that big.

454
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,759
That's pretty sizable. Before I go on to the next question,

455
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,559
just a reminder, I've got an announcement to make at

456
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:55,400
the end of tonight's show. Well, it's not really going

457
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,759
to be the end of the show. It's going to

458
00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:59,240
be at the tail end or close to the end

459
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,960
of the show. I should say. It's a big announcement

460
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:05,960
that you're not going to want to miss. But moving

461
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,680
on to the next question for you. Dom Dee also

462
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:10,759
wants to know did it sound like it ran on

463
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:14,119
two or four legs? We've answered that question. It definitely

464
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,640
was running on too, but did it sound like it

465
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,279
was running on two or four legs?

466
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,759
Speaker 2: It sounded like two legs because it would be like

467
00:32:24,359 --> 00:32:30,200
boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom, and you

468
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,559
could hear and almost feel every individual step it took.

469
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,279
Speaker 1: Wow, must have been a big boy if you could

470
00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:42,119
feel like that had to have been. The next question

471
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,000
is from Nadine Smith, and she wants to know how

472
00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,599
many other people have seen it. He said that some

473
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,759
of the neighbors were talking with you about it, But

474
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,480
how many people in the area have you noticed talking

475
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:54,000
about this?

476
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,119
Speaker 2: Really? Only my pop he was the only one who

477
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:00,680
had seen it.

478
00:33:03,839 --> 00:33:06,279
Speaker 1: I must have been confused. I thought you said that

479
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:08,759
at least some of the neighbors were talking about it,

480
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:10,160
almost like they had seen it.

481
00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:16,519
Speaker 2: Before they came over because my pop pop had told

482
00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:20,559
them about it. They came over to talk about it. Oh,

483
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:26,119
part I left out. I completely forgot about it. These cats,

484
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,680
these outdoor cats had been going missing for a while,

485
00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:34,039
so that was also a big topic when the neighbors

486
00:33:34,079 --> 00:33:38,400
came over to talk about this thing. But based off

487
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,160
what I know, nobody else saw it except me and

488
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:41,920
my pop Pop.

489
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: Dog men are hard on cats, so it wouldn't surprise me.

490
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,039
It feels taken them out like it was going out

491
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:52,920
of style. It looks like Nadine also wants to know

492
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,160
how long its snout was.

493
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: It's smeut hmmm. I mean I was looking up on it,

494
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:08,119
so had kind of a like a medium sized snout

495
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:12,039
for what I'd assume, I guess how big its head was,

496
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:19,280
so thinking of it, I'd say, hm, hm, oh, like

497
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,519
seven inch snout like coming out from its face.

498
00:34:25,079 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: That's a fairly good sized snout for had that size though,

499
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:32,280
I guess not, but I guess it depends on how

500
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,159
wide that snout was too. The muzzle was, But then again, yeah,

501
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,920
it wasn't there. It might have looked a lot bigger

502
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,920
than what I've got in mind that you're describing it

503
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,360
as being.

504
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,039
Speaker 2: Oh, the muzzle that was actually pretty wide. It was wide,

505
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,360
so I guess it's proportions on its face. It's snout

506
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,119
and muzzle were definitely a lot shorter. On its face

507
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:57,199
than its head.

508
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they must have been, or it must have been

509
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,559
because ef it's head was about three times the size

510
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:07,239
of a German shepherd's head. Then that's a big head.

511
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:09,719
And if it's muzzle, it's only seven inches long or so.

512
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,880
That's a pretty small short snout, I should say, if

513
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,840
we're head that big. The next question is from audacious

514
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,559
Amber Hamber. She wants to know any mind speaker dread feelings.

515
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,519
Thank you. Uh.

516
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:35,639
Speaker 2: I was actually talking to my girlfriend earlier and I

517
00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:38,719
was talking about my experience, and I was telling her

518
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,079
about how, you know, every time I do think of it,

519
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:46,480
it's not as bad as what I used to but

520
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:51,440
it just reminds me that these things are real and

521
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,599
it gives me that like that like shiver that goes

522
00:35:56,639 --> 00:36:01,400
up your spine and stuff, that cold feeling. But like

523
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,280
I said, not as bad as it used to be.

524
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,679
Speaker 1: I'm glad that as time goes by, it's and easier

525
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,400
to think about and deal with. Thank goodness for that.

526
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,360
This next question for you is from to be or not.

527
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: To be, and.

528
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: They want to know looking back, do you get the

529
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,199
sense the dog man was intelligent?

530
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:31,159
Speaker 2: Hmmm, I'm not too not too sure, I know it

531
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:37,280
came back, but that's about the most intelligent thing I

532
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,440
can think of, that it was able to come back

533
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,679
to the trailer. But I remember Matt, I didn't see

534
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,880
any signs that they could have tried to get in

535
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:51,400
or do something.

536
00:36:54,519 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: I don't, thank Goodness for that. And just to verify.

537
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:01,280
Nadine Smith wants to know, Obvious said it came back,

538
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,440
but was that the only time that you saw it.

539
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the only time I saw it.

540
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: Thank goodness or that. Audaisias Amber wants to know if

541
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,320
you saw what the eye color was?

542
00:37:16,039 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: Had these amber coat like amber colored eyes, so i'd

543
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,880
say like a dark amber color.

544
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty typical. Wellington Wallace wants to know if

545
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,880
you smelled anything strange.

546
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that thing definitely. Like I said earlier, it smelled

547
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,719
like garbage and like rotten beat, like that decay smell.

548
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,159
Speaker 1: That's pretty typical too. That fits. Sam Klin wants to

549
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:53,400
know did you see the teeth or claws?

550
00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: I saw the claw marks on the deer, but teeth, well,

551
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,480
I saw the chunks taken out of the deer too,

552
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:08,119
so I didn't see them physically, but I can definitely

553
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:14,039
tell you that thing must have been like had some

554
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:18,159
ferocious claws on it, because the streaks of that deer,

555
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,599
I don't really know how why to say they were,

556
00:38:22,679 --> 00:38:27,960
but like they were decently wide like streaks on that

557
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:29,920
deer's like carcass.

558
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure it did that ferocious clause. Unfortunately, that goes

559
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,719
together as far as talking about dogging goes like peanut

560
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,599
butter and jelly. And like I said, again, unfortunately, this

561
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,880
next question for you is from Ded Truth and he

562
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,000
wants to know what he's saying. I'm in PA, and

563
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,840
I've seen a lot up here. What the area of PA. Now,

564
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,039
you don't have to reveal that if you don't want to,

565
00:38:55,199 --> 00:39:00,280
but if you don't mind, then feel free.

566
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: It was Cumberland County. Yeah, around Cumberland County.

567
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: Some strange things happen in PA. A lot of strange

568
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,119
things do. Unfortunately, I've got one more question for you,

569
00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:17,679
and it's from Deed Truth. Again. He wants to know

570
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,000
if you've ever been back and searched the area.

571
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: I've never went back to. Well, i've been back to

572
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:35,480
the trailer park, but I've never actually went back into

573
00:39:35,519 --> 00:39:39,119
the woods. But I think maybe a few years from

574
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:44,800
now I might go back just to and I'll go

575
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:51,760
back prepared, but just to see if this thing is

576
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,559
still there, and I'll probably be taking some people with me.

577
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,519
Speaker 1: Can't say I'll blame you there, baby steps. Yeah, whenever

578
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:05,639
you're ready and you're sure that you're ready, then yeah,

579
00:40:05,679 --> 00:40:07,400
that'd be great if you did go back there. But

580
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:10,599
like I said, don't rush it. Don't go back until

581
00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:13,079
you know you're ready to do it. But I'm glad

582
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:15,039
to hear that you have sworn off going back into

583
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:17,280
those woods. The fact that you are open to going

584
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,280
back when you're ready, that says a lot. That's great news. Well,

585
00:40:22,639 --> 00:40:25,519
before we close this out with you here tonight, Dom,

586
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:27,360
do you have any closing comments you'd like to put

587
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,039
out there for us.

588
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: Not too much, I don't, not that I can really

589
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:38,960
think of off the top of my head.

590
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:45,079
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well that makes it easy then well, Dom,

591
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,039
thanks again so much for coming on the show and

592
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:49,719
sharing the details of that experience with this. I really

593
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:56,280
appreciate it realcome and if you ever need to.

594
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: Thank you for letting me come on and share my encounter.

595
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,519
Speaker 1: Well you're welcome. Yeah, That's what I'm here for. And

596
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:08,079
if down the road you ever do need help, then

597
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,119
please let me know so we can schedule another conversation

598
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,760
and I'll find out what's the ailing. Un We'll take

599
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:19,519
it from there. Then. All right, all right, thanks again

600
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:23,920
for your time and have a great night you too. Thanks,

601
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:34,000
we'll see all right, that's taking care of and moving on.

602
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,239
Before we get out of here, I guess it's time

603
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,880
to put that announcement out there for you. I'm asked

604
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:47,320
all the time about putting out more dog main related content. Well,

605
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:53,719
after brainstorming, I decided that I'm going to be in

606
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,519
podcast format, not on YouTube here, but in podcast format.

607
00:41:59,039 --> 00:42:02,360
I'm going to start, which not immediately but down the

608
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,920
road here, I'm going to start putting out a podcast

609
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,119
that consists of dog me and creepy pasta stories. These

610
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:14,000
aren't going to be factual stories about dogmen. They're going

611
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:19,960
to be dog me and creepy pasta stories that I've created. Well, tonight,

612
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,000
I'm going to give you a sample episode one, and

613
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:27,719
that episode is going to be titled something New Child

614
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,519
should Ever See. So, without any further ado, let's have

615
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:33,400
a listen to it.

616
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,639
Speaker 3: The Kodiak Island National Wildlife Refuge was a vast wilderness

617
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,599
it's towering trees and rugged terrain, untouched by time, a

618
00:42:43,639 --> 00:42:47,760
place where nature reigned, wild and unyielding, the perfect escape

619
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,199
for a family who wanted to reconnect with the land.

620
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,239
For seven year old Luke, it was an adventure he

621
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,400
had been looking forward to for months. It was supposed

622
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,079
to be a simple camping trip, a chance to bond

623
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:02,639
with his parents, to explore the dense forests, to breathe

624
00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:05,599
in the crisp, salty air of the coast. But that

625
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,000
was before everything changed. Before the wind shifted and the

626
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,320
weather took a turn for the worse. Luke had wandered

627
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,760
too far from camp, following a path that seemed familiar

628
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,480
at first, but soon dissolved into unfamiliar woods. The trees

629
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:23,320
grew denser here, the shadows stretching longer. As the day waned,

630
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,519
he called out to his parents, but his voice was

631
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:29,679
swallowed by the howling wind that had suddenly kicked up.

632
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:33,480
Panic began to tighten its grip on his chest. He

633
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,199
should have stayed close, He should have listened when his

634
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,760
mom told him to stay within sight. But now, as

635
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,800
the temperature dropped and the sky darkened, there was no

636
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,599
sign of his parents, and that's when he heard it,

637
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:48,079
the low, rumbling growl of thunder far in the distance.

638
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,039
The storm was coming. Luke's heart raced as the first

639
00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:55,159
flakes of snow began to fall, light at first, but

640
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,800
quickly intensifying. The world around him blurred the white snowflakes

641
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,719
made making it impossible to see more than a few

642
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,119
feet ahead. His little boots slipped in the softening earth

643
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:07,760
as he tried to move faster, but the snow was

644
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,440
falling faster, now blanketing everything in a thick veil of white.

645
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,320
He knew he needed to get back to the camp,

646
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,400
but the path had disappeared beneath the snow. Every direction

647
00:44:18,519 --> 00:44:21,639
looked the same. Desperation clawed at him as he called

648
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:24,679
for his parents again, but the wind carried his voice away.

649
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:28,000
His eyes stung with tears as the storm roared louder,

650
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,960
drowning out any hope of hearing anything but the violent

651
00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:34,920
howl of the wind. The storm wasn't just a backdrop anymore.

652
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,079
It was part of the hunt. The snow had turned

653
00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:40,920
into a blinding flurry, and the world felt as if

654
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,760
it was closing in on Luke. His breath came in

655
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,400
frantic gasps, a plume of vapor rising into the cold air.

656
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,280
He stumbled through the snow, his heart pounding in his ears.

657
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,760
Each step felt heavier, each breath more labored. The wind

658
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,400
howled like a wild animal, but Luke had a sinking

659
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,159
feeling that it wasn't just storm. He was hearing something

660
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:06,199
else was out there. His body froze, instincts screaming at

661
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,039
him to stop. He didn't know why. He didn't see anything,

662
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,320
just the swirling snow and the white washed trees, but

663
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,360
the feeling grew, like eyes were watching him, like something

664
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,880
was closing in, something big. Then out of nowhere came

665
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,119
the snap of a twig. The sound was so loud,

666
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,719
so sudden, that it cut through the storm like a knife.

667
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,360
Luke's blood ran cold. He spun around, searching the snow

668
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,119
covered forest, but there was nothing, nothing but the swirling whiteness.

669
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,239
The air smelled different, now darker, heavier. His feet moved

670
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:47,920
without thinking, scrambling through the snow in a frantic, desperate escape.

671
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,320
He had no idea where he was going, only that

672
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,079
he needed to get away from that sound, from the

673
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:56,400
feeling of something following him. It wasn't long before the

674
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,800
first unmistakable sound reached his ears, a low, grounding rumble

675
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:04,480
that seemed to vibrate through the ground itself. The ground

676
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:07,960
trembled with each step that followed. Luke's heart raced in

677
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,800
his chest, and then the unmistakable roar of a beast,

678
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:15,599
a sound so deep, so primal, that it made his

679
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:20,559
bones shudder. A bear. Luke didn't dare look back. He

680
00:46:20,679 --> 00:46:24,199
ran faster, his little legs pumping the snow dragging at

681
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,440
his boots as he sprinted toward what seemed like an

682
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,119
open patch in the forest. Maybe there he'd be able

683
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:32,960
to see something, find something that could lead him back

684
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,519
to safety. The trees blurred around him, the wind stinging

685
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:40,239
his eyes, but the growl, that terrible, bone chilling growl,

686
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:45,639
followed him louder, closer. Suddenly he burst into a clearing.

687
00:46:46,119 --> 00:46:48,519
His boots slipped on the slick ground as he tried

688
00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:52,559
to steady himself. Snow crunched beneath him, but he didn't care.

689
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:56,119
He was out of breath, dizzy, and the cold was

690
00:46:56,159 --> 00:46:59,800
gnawing at his skin. But more terrifying than the storm

691
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,920
was the sound behind him, the growl that rumbled deeper,

692
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,119
now shaking the very earth beneath him. Luke's body was

693
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:10,760
frozen in place as a shape emerged from the shadows

694
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,639
of the trees, the bear. It was massive. The bear's

695
00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:18,280
fur looked like a dark, matted cloak that seemed to

696
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,000
absorb the light. Its eyes glowed with a predatory hunger,

697
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,599
fixated on the boy standing frozen in the clearing, Its

698
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:29,920
massive jaws parted, revealing sharp teeth as long as Luke's hand.

699
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:33,719
The creature's claws scraped against the earth, making a sound

700
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,960
like metal dragging on stone. Luke stumbled back, his chest,

701
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,599
heaving his thoughts scattered. The bear took a step forward

702
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,840
and another until it was mere feet from him. The

703
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,880
cold breath from its nostrils made the air around him shimmer.

704
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,400
The bear wasn't just hungry, it was furious. It took

705
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,079
another step closer, its towering form dwarfing the small boy.

706
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,920
The creature's growl deepened into a rumbling that echoed through

707
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,840
the clearing. The eyes of the bear were locked on Luke,

708
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,320
its muscles coiling like springs ready to launch. Luke's mind

709
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,000
screamed at him to run, but his body wouldn't move.

710
00:48:09,559 --> 00:48:12,079
His legs felt like they were made of stone, as

711
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:14,880
though the fear had rooted him in place, and then,

712
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:18,039
just as the bear began to raise its claws, preparing

713
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:21,760
to make its final lethal strike, Luke did the only

714
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,239
thing he could. He collapsed. He crumpled to the ground,

715
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,000
sobbing uncontrollably. All hope had drained from him. His breath

716
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:33,199
came and jagged, desperate sobs as the snow continued to

717
00:48:33,199 --> 00:48:35,920
fall around him. He didn't even know if the bear

718
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,320
would strike him before he could breathe again. All he

719
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,719
could do was wait. And then the growl came again.

720
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,639
But this time it was different. It was deeper, fuller,

721
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:50,840
and there was something more. It was a growl like

722
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,599
no animal had ever made before. The clearing was deathly silent,

723
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:59,639
the storm's fury a distant, muffled roar in the background.

724
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,800
Luke's sobs were the only sound that filled the air,

725
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,119
each breath coming in ragged gas. As he lay there,

726
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:10,920
completely vulnerable, the bear loomed over him, its massive form

727
00:49:11,079 --> 00:49:14,440
casting a shadow that swallowed the boy hole. And then,

728
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,119
just as the world seemed to shrink into a tunnel

729
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:21,639
of fear, the growl returned. But this time it was different.

730
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:25,760
It wasn't a growl from the bear. Luke's body went rigid,

731
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:29,599
his tears froze on his face as a deep, guttural

732
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,960
growl echoed from somewhere just behind him, reverberating through the

733
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,880
snow soaked ground. This wasn't just any animal. It was

734
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,679
something far more terrifying, something Luke couldn't even comprehend. The

735
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,639
bear's attention snapped to the thicket behind Luke, its massive

736
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:51,559
head jerking toward the sound. It froze, its ears flicking

737
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:55,360
back in alarm. As the growl intensified, the air seemed

738
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,239
to thrum with tension, like a storm was about to break.

739
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:02,239
Luke's heart hammered in his chest. His eyes darted to

740
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,400
the thick trees behind him. His mind screamed at him

741
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,880
to run, but his legs wouldn't obey. He was paralyzed

742
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,159
with fear. What could make a sound like that? And

743
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,719
why was the bear reacting so strongly? Then came the

744
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,079
sound that no one would ever forget, the sickening sound

745
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:23,639
of something cracking, popping, like a giant's knuckles twisting in

746
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:28,000
a grotesque symphony. The noise was so loud, so unnatural,

747
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,360
that it sent a tremor through the boy's body. And

748
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:35,159
just as the cracking stopped, the air grew colder, so

749
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,440
cold that it seemed to freeze the very breath in

750
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,960
his lungs. And then the ground beneath Luke's knees trembled.

751
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,000
The bear's attention shifted back to Luke, its eyes narrowing

752
00:50:46,039 --> 00:50:49,599
with an almost unnatural malice. But the boy wasn't looking

753
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:53,800
at it anymore. He couldn't. Slowly rising from the thick

754
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,360
thicket behind him, something impossibly huge began to emerge. It

755
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,800
was a shadow at first than a shape, a towering

756
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,719
silhouette that seemed to stretch and twist as it rose

757
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,559
to its full height, its massive form unfurling like some

758
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,920
ancient nightmare. Luke's mouth went dry, his eyes wide in disbelief.

759
00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:17,800
A creature, part wolf, part man, and all terror stood

760
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,599
behind him. Its fur was dark, rippling with muscle, and

761
00:51:21,639 --> 00:51:24,480
it loomed over the bear like a nightmare given form,

762
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,880
its eyes yellow and piercing, locked onto the bear with

763
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,360
a hunger so intense it could have swallowed the world whole.

764
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,960
Luke's breath caught in his throat. It was a dog man,

765
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:39,480
bigger than any of the stories he had heard, taller

766
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:42,360
than the tallest man, standing a full twelve feet tall.

767
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:46,519
Its jaw was filled with rows of sharp teeth, bared

768
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:50,360
in a silent snarl that sent chills crawling down Luke's spine.

769
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,960
The bear, standing at a mere eleven feet, seemed to

770
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,880
realize it was no longer the apex predator in this clearing.

771
00:51:56,440 --> 00:52:00,000
With a primal roar, it stood on its hind legs

772
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,920
or to meet the dog man's height. Its claws dug

773
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,039
into the frozen earth, but the dog man was unfazed.

774
00:52:06,599 --> 00:52:10,239
A long, deep inhalation echoed from the dog Man's throat,

775
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,360
its chest rising and falling like the growl of an

776
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,199
ancient beast. Then, with a terrifying howl, the creature threw

777
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,960
its head back and released a roar so deafening, so

778
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:24,360
full of power that the very trees around them seemed

779
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,559
to bend. The bear hesitated its own growl, faltering for

780
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:32,199
a split second before it charged, its massive body, moving

781
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,119
faster than anything that size should have been capable of,

782
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:39,519
But the dog man was faster. With one swift, fluid movement,

783
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,400
the dog man swung its massive arm, its claws glinting

784
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:45,960
in the pale light of the storm. It was almost

785
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,679
a blur, an impossibility in speed and grace. As the

786
00:52:49,679 --> 00:52:53,119
bear lunged at it, claws raised, but the dog man

787
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,039
was already on the move, its roar shaking the earth

788
00:52:56,079 --> 00:53:00,039
beneath them. The clearing erupted into chaos. The bear, the

789
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:05,320
massive and furious, charged with an unstoppable force, its jaws snapping,

790
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:10,599
claws slashing through the air. But the dog man, impossibly fast,

791
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,599
impossibly strong, was already there, a blur of fur and muscle.

792
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:18,880
With a single step, the dog Man was behind the bear.

793
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:23,760
Its massive claws raked across the bear's thick hide, leaving

794
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,159
gashes that instantly bled, dark and viscous. The bear roared

795
00:53:28,159 --> 00:53:31,760
in pain, but the dog man didn't stop. It moved

796
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,079
like lightning, a creature of nightmares, cutting through the storm

797
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:37,760
as if it was nothing but a distraction. The bear

798
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,559
twisted around, its eyes, blazing with rage. It swung its

799
00:53:41,679 --> 00:53:45,519
massive paws, the claws cutting through the air like battering rams.

800
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,679
The dog man ducked low, its body, twisting and dodging

801
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:54,320
with terrifying agility, narrowly avoiding the crushing blows. Its growl

802
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,800
was low, guttural, and filled with the promise of death.

803
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,960
The bear, disoriented but not defeated, swung again. This time

804
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,800
it caught the dog man across the chest, its claws

805
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,960
digging deep into the creature's fur. But the dog man

806
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,280
didn't retreat. Instead, it roared louder, its body trembling with fury,

807
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:16,760
and with one powerful motion, it launched itself onto the

808
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:21,360
bear's back. With an impossibly strong grip, the dogmen sank

809
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,400
its claws into the bear's flesh, holding on as the

810
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:27,360
bear thrashed and bucked in an attempt to throw it off.

811
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,800
The two titans collided, with the ground, shaking the earth

812
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,760
beneath them. The sound of bone and sinew clashing was deafening,

813
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,039
The air filled with the noise of their battle growls, roars,

814
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:42,800
and the sickening sound of tearing flesh. Luke, still on

815
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,599
the ground, could barely move. His body was frozen, not

816
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,599
from the cold, but from the sheer terror of what

817
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:52,760
he was witnessing. His eyes darted from the bear to

818
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,960
the dog man, each strike, each motion so fast and

819
00:54:57,039 --> 00:55:00,960
brutal it seemed to warp reality itself. The storm had

820
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,800
turned from a wild howl to a whisper, as though

821
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,760
even nature itself had stopped to watch this brutal dance

822
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,840
of death. And then, just as the battle seemed to

823
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,880
reach its peak, something shifted. The dog Man, with an

824
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,880
almost supernatural ease, wrenched its claws from the bear's back

825
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,519
and slammed its full weight onto the creature's chest with

826
00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:25,039
a roar that shook the trees. The dogmen sank its

827
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:28,400
teeth deep into the bear's neck, ripping and tearing with

828
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,880
savage precision. The bear screamed in agony, its claws flailing,

829
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,039
but it was futile. The dog Man's power was overwhelming.

830
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,000
It twisted its jaws, ripping through the muscle and bone,

831
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,079
and with one final monstrous twist, the bear went still.

832
00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:49,559
For a moment, there was silence. The storm resumed its

833
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:53,800
howling fury, but now the clearing was eerily still. The

834
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,280
dogmen stood over the fallen bear, its chest heaving with

835
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,280
heavy breaths, its eyes cold and calculate as it stared

836
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,679
down at his kill. Luke's heart pounded in his chest,

837
00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:09,239
but he couldn't move, He couldn't breathe. The nightmare was real,

838
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:11,440
and he had no idea if he was about to

839
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,239
become its next victim. But then the dog Man's eyes

840
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,400
flicked toward him. Its gaze was not one of hunger,

841
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,199
not one of the predator it had just proven to be,

842
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:27,320
but something else. It was curious, almost intelligent, like it

843
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,480
knew Luke was there but hadn't yet decided what to

844
00:56:30,519 --> 00:56:34,000
do with him. The creature's growl faded into a low,

845
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:37,440
rumbling hum. Slowly it turned away from the dead bear,

846
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,039
its towering figure moving with a grace that belied its sighs.

847
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,480
Each step was a reminder that this thing was ancient, powerful,

848
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,079
and not to be trifled with. Luke watched in stunned

849
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:51,480
silence as the dog man made its way back into

850
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,320
the trees. With one final lingering look over its shoulder,

851
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,880
it disappeared into the darkness of the storm, leaving Luke

852
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,400
alone with the remains of the bear and the snow

853
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,440
swirling around him. The storm roared back to life, its

854
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,239
cold winds cutting through the clearing like a living thing.

855
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,920
Snow flurried around Luke, but he barely felt it. He

856
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,639
was still frozen, staring at the place where the dog

857
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,639
man had vanished. His mind was a storm of its own,

858
00:57:19,159 --> 00:57:23,360
a whirlwind of disbelief and terror. Was that real? Had

859
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,280
the beast truly just spared him. After all the carnage,

860
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,440
the silence that followed the battle was deafening. The bear,

861
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:34,360
once a massive, terrifying predator, was now nothing more than

862
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,400
a lifeless heap of fur and muscle on the snow.

863
00:57:38,159 --> 00:57:41,199
Blood pooled around it, turning the ground dark against the

864
00:57:41,199 --> 00:57:44,079
white canvas of the storm. It was a sight that

865
00:57:44,119 --> 00:57:46,679
would haunt Luke for the rest of his life, But

866
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,320
for now, all he could do was stare. His small

867
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,360
body trembled, not just from the cold, but from the

868
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:57,280
adrenaline that still surged through his veins. His legs felt

869
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,760
like jelly, and his arms ached with the stiffness of fear.

870
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:05,519
He wanted to run, he wanted to scream, but something

871
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:09,400
deep inside told him that he couldn't. Not yet. A

872
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,960
part of him, maybe the part of him that had

873
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,719
been raised on stories of survival and heroes, wanted to

874
00:58:15,719 --> 00:58:19,599
face what had happened, to understand, But his instincts were

875
00:58:19,639 --> 00:58:23,320
louder his body's survival mechanism, screaming for him to leave

876
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,239
this place, to get away before the creature returned, or worse,

877
00:58:27,639 --> 00:58:30,639
before the storm trapped him for good. He didn't know

878
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:33,320
how long he'd been sitting there, but the storm had

879
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,440
only grown more violent, howling through the trees with a

880
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,559
ferocity that made his skin crawl. The snow had piled

881
00:58:40,599 --> 00:58:43,000
up around him, and his breath came out in thick

882
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,800
clouds of white vapor. His stomach twisted in hunger and fear,

883
00:58:47,159 --> 00:58:50,199
and his throat was dry from the cold. Luke looked

884
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:53,880
down at his hands, trembling, his fingers numb, he couldn't

885
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,920
feel them anymore. The last few minutes had felt like

886
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,280
a lifetime, and he wasn't sure how he was still alive,

887
00:59:00,719 --> 00:59:04,119
how he had survived that encounter, How had that creature

888
00:59:04,199 --> 00:59:07,320
chosen not to kill him? But there was no time

889
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,559
for questions. The storm had reached its peak, and he

890
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:13,440
knew that if he didn't find shelter soon, the cold

891
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,400
would be the end of him. With a final glance

892
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,960
at the bear's lifeless body, Luke pushed himself to his feet.

893
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,119
His legs shook under him, but he took one shaky

894
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:26,559
step forward, then another and another, moving through the snow

895
00:59:26,599 --> 00:59:30,440
as quickly as he could manage. Every step felt like

896
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,679
an eternity, every sound in the woods sending his heart

897
00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:36,760
into overdrive. But as he moved he couldn't shake the

898
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,159
feeling that something was watching him, that somehow, somewhere in

899
00:59:41,239 --> 00:59:44,199
the thick shadows of the trees, the dog Man was

900
00:59:44,239 --> 00:59:48,840
still there, keeping its distant vigil over him. It wasn't

901
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,360
until much later that the search teams finally reached the clearing.

902
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:57,440
Helicopters buzzed overhead, their lights cutting through the dense snowstorm

903
00:59:57,519 --> 01:00:01,280
like the piercing gaze of a predator. Round crews, bundled

904
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,079
in heavy gear combed through the wilderness, following the faint

905
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:09,400
traces of the lost boy's path. Hours passed as they searched.

906
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,199
They found the tracks where Luke had stumbled through the

907
01:00:12,199 --> 01:00:15,679
deep snow, the trail of his tiny feet still visible

908
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:18,440
in the fresh powder. But when they reached the clearing,

909
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,199
they found something even more unsettling. The remains of the

910
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:25,519
bear were still there, torn apart with a brutality that

911
01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:27,920
made the hairs on the back of every rescuer's neck

912
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,159
stand on end. The blood had frozen in the snow,

913
01:00:31,239 --> 01:00:34,679
dark and thick, like some terrible warning. And then in

914
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,119
the distance they found Luke. He was huddled beneath a

915
01:00:38,159 --> 01:00:42,360
fallen tree, his eyes wide and hollow with exhaustion and terror.

916
01:00:43,239 --> 01:00:46,760
His clothes were soaked with snow, his small bodies shivering

917
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,039
violently from the cold. But when they reached him, when

918
01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:52,800
they spoke his name, he looked up with eyes that

919
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,480
had seen something no child should ever see, something that

920
01:00:56,599 --> 01:00:59,719
was still out there in the storm. Watching the rescue

921
01:00:59,719 --> 01:01:03,400
team voices were like distant echoes, muffled by the weight

922
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,280
of the storm. They surrounded Luke, lifting him carefully from

923
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,440
beneath the fallen tree, wrapping him in warm blankets, but

924
01:01:11,519 --> 01:01:14,480
the boy couldn't seem to shake the feeling that something

925
01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:18,360
was still out there, something waiting in the blizzard. As

926
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,239
they carried him towards safety, his mind replayed everything, the

927
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,880
terror of the bear, the thunderous growl of the dog man,

928
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:30,119
the impossible roar that shook his very soul. His legs

929
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:34,559
felt weak, his body numb, but his mind was alert, watching,

930
01:01:35,079 --> 01:01:39,239
listening for any sign of the creature's return. The storm, however,

931
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:42,960
had not abated. The wind howled and snow whipped through

932
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,639
the air, stinging his face and making it hard to see.

933
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,760
But despite the storm's fury, despite the chaos of the search,

934
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,360
Luke couldn't forget the thing that had saved him. He

935
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,440
didn't know what the dog Man was, didn't understand why

936
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,840
it had spared him, but one thing was certain, that

937
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,480
creature had protected him. As the rescue team made their

938
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,360
way back toward the helicopter, the noise of the world

939
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,000
seemed to fade into the background, and in that eerie silence,

940
01:02:11,519 --> 01:02:15,239
Luke caught something, a movement in the trees. His heart

941
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,599
skipped a beat, his breath caught in his throat. The

942
01:02:18,719 --> 01:02:24,079
dog Man, its silhouette, massive and hulking, stood just beyond

943
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:28,199
the tree line, watching them. The creature was almost invisible

944
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:31,679
in the storm, but there was no mistaking it. The eyes,

945
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,400
those amber eyes, glowed faintly, piercing through the snow like

946
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,360
twin lanterns. For a long moment, the Dogmen stared at

947
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:44,159
the boy, its gaze heavy, its presence both comforting and terrifying.

948
01:02:44,639 --> 01:02:49,000
It didn't make a sound, It didn't move, It just watched. Then,

949
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:51,880
as if sensing that its job was done, the creature

950
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,360
turned slowly, disappearing back into the forest from which it

951
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,360
had emerged. The storm seemed to part just a little,

952
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,000
as if the world itself was holding its breath, waiting

953
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:02,599
for the creature.

954
01:03:02,639 --> 01:03:03,159
Speaker 1: To vanish.

955
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,159
Speaker 3: Luke didn't speak, He didn't need to. He didn't know

956
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:09,440
how to explain what he had seen, what had happened.

957
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,000
But in the pit of his stomach, he knew that

958
01:03:12,039 --> 01:03:15,039
the dog Man wasn't just a creature of nightmares. It

959
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:19,719
was something more, something ancient and powerful, something that didn't

960
01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:22,639
answer to the rules of man or nature, and for

961
01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:26,639
some reason, it had chosen to spare him. As the

962
01:03:26,679 --> 01:03:29,800
helicopter lifted into the air, Luke glanced one last time

963
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,840
at the dense forest below, his eyes searching the trees.

964
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,320
The dog Man was gone, but Luke would never forget

965
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,079
its eyes, nor would he ever forget the way the

966
01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:41,679
storm had quieted the moment it had stepped into the clearing.

967
01:03:42,679 --> 01:03:46,320
In the months that followed, Luke's story spread. Searchers combed

968
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,480
the Kodiak Island National Wildlife Refuge for signs of the

969
01:03:49,519 --> 01:03:53,159
dog Man, but no one found anything. The bear's remains

970
01:03:53,199 --> 01:03:56,800
were recovered, analyzed, and the official report deemed it an

971
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:01,280
unfortunate tragedy, a wild animal attack. The dog Man, though,

972
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,599
remained a shadow in the background, a whispered tale among

973
01:04:04,679 --> 01:04:09,480
locals and researchers. Luke, now older, still remembers the creature.

974
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,400
The nightmares come less frequently, but every so often he

975
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,159
wakes in the dead of night, his heart pounding, convinced

976
01:04:17,199 --> 01:04:20,159
that something is watching him from the dark. But when

977
01:04:20,159 --> 01:04:22,719
he tells his story, when he shares the truth of

978
01:04:22,719 --> 01:04:26,679
what happened in that clearing, people don't believe him. They laugh,

979
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,639
They dismiss it as a child's overactive imagination or the

980
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:34,280
trauma of an ordeal too terrifying to process. Yet Luke

981
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,239
knows the truth. He knows what he saw, and deep

982
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,559
down he knows the dog Man is still out there.

983
01:04:42,639 --> 01:04:45,519
Speaker 1: And there you go. That's episode one of the new podcast.

984
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,559
I'm not going to reveal the name of this new

985
01:04:48,639 --> 01:04:51,000
podcast yet. I'm not going to reveal that until I'm

986
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:55,480
ready to actually start creaking out episodes or publishing episodes.

987
01:04:56,079 --> 01:04:58,039
As far as that goes. I don't know how long

988
01:04:58,039 --> 01:05:01,920
it's going to be before I do start releasing maybe

989
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,280
five six or so episodes, but I am going to

990
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:11,719
hold back numerous episodes and then launch the podcast so

991
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,119
that way it hits the ground running. But once it

992
01:05:15,199 --> 01:05:18,880
is ready to publish that way, of course, I'll be

993
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,000
sure to let you know so that you can be

994
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:24,960
ready for that. But having said that, everyone, thanks against

995
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,480
so much for listening. And if you've had to dog

996
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,599
me in the counter that you need help with, or

997
01:05:29,679 --> 01:05:31,199
if you like to come on the show and share

998
01:05:31,239 --> 01:05:33,599
that experience with the listeners, all you would need to

999
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:37,159
do is to go to dogmanthecounters dot com and submit

1000
01:05:37,199 --> 01:05:39,840
a report. If you do that, then of course I'll

1001
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:43,400
contact you to schedule a phone consultation. Then we'll take

1002
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,280
it from there. But having said that, thanks again so

1003
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,559
much for listening and have a great night.

1004
01:06:10,519 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 2: S English