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Speaker 1: All right now, Billy Cunningham, the great American. Great to
Speaker 1: have you with me this Sunday night, and so much
Speaker 1: going on, it's like drinking from a fire hose. We
Speaker 1: have the issue of once again, the media. This week's
Speaker 1: going to be completely encapsulated around the idea of the
Speaker 1: cruelty of Donald Trump's immigration policies as exhibited in Milwaukee,
Speaker 1: and also with the deportation of a four year old
Speaker 1: being treated for cancer, deported despite US citizenship. We're going
Speaker 1: to play for you later a cut of Secretary of
Speaker 1: State Marco Rubio. I'm looking at the headline four year
Speaker 1: old being treated for cancer, deported despite US citizenship. That's
Speaker 1: the headline on CNN. Two other US kids are also
Speaker 1: deported to Honduras. With their mothers. Lawyers and advocacy groups
Speaker 1: now say and the truth isn't exactly what the headline reports.
Speaker 1: But see this media is not concerned about the truth.
Speaker 1: They're concerned with a die dribe that fits their prejudice,
Speaker 1: and if it fits the prejudice, they go with at
Speaker 1: big time. If it doesn't fit their prejudice, they ignore
Speaker 1: it completely. And of course, also at stake's going to
Speaker 1: be the whereabouts right now of Eduardo Flores Ruiz who
Speaker 1: appeared in the court room of Judge Hannah Dugan in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: Media is going to go nuts on that one. And
Speaker 1: I'm watching also the Democratic Party disintegrating in front of
Speaker 1: our very eyes. You know, the party that cares about
Speaker 1: the rule of law, that no one is above the law.
Speaker 1: Well guess what liberal judges, according to the mayor, according
Speaker 1: to the governor, is all above the law in Wisconsin
Speaker 1: because Judge Hannah Dugan acted in a way that violated
Speaker 1: federal criminal statutes. And not even judges are above the law.
Speaker 1: Or maybe Democrats think the only person above the law
Speaker 1: might be Donald Trump. But in reality Trumps said again
Speaker 1: today coming back from Italy, we did a great job
Speaker 1: I think representing our country that when the US Supreme
Speaker 1: Court rules on an issue, he will follow what they
Speaker 1: say to do. He said, I'm not going to violate
Speaker 1: the United States Supreme Court. And so that also will
Speaker 1: not be well publicized by the mainstream media. But I
Speaker 1: have one when I speak to Hannity, talked a lot
Speaker 1: about of people. They we all agree on one thing,
Speaker 1: the great one, Mark Levin, that the mainstream media has
Speaker 1: lost its power beginning in twenty eight Over the last
Speaker 1: what seventeen years, the American people will have figured out
Speaker 1: that talk radio and podcasters are much more likely to
Speaker 1: give you the unvarnished truth than the mainstream media that
Speaker 1: are a bunch of ninety percent or more leftists that
Speaker 1: wanted to find a result according to their own political bias.
Speaker 1: Media should be independent, objective, and fair. Instead, they're on
Speaker 1: that they are shall we say, commit it to the
Speaker 1: left wing side of any issue. And so this case
Speaker 1: of Edwater Flores Ruiz in Dugan's Milwaukee court room as
Speaker 1: a classic example. Flores Ruiz was born in Mexico. He's
Speaker 1: a Mexican citizen. He was charged in her court with
Speaker 1: three counts of misdemeanor battery DV domestic violence and infliction
Speaker 1: of physical harm that charges to them from a March
Speaker 1: twelfth fight that occurred between flores Rue and two roommates
Speaker 1: after he was accused by them of playing music too loud.
Speaker 1: The complaine states of the defendant Ruiz punched one mate,
Speaker 1: one roommate, thirty times hit a woman who tried to
Speaker 1: end the fight. In court, Floresuz pled not guilty to
Speaker 1: charges according to the records. Now here's the kicker. Floresrue
Speaker 1: has lived in the US and was issued a notice
Speaker 1: in order to expedite removal by US District Border Patrol
Speaker 1: agents in January of twenty thirteen. Who was president in
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, That's the deporter in chief. That was Barack
Speaker 1: Hussain Obama. He was arrested, deported to Mexico through Negalles, Arizona,
Speaker 1: the port of entry, and he stayed in New Mexico.
Speaker 1: Shortly he quickly returned illegally again to the United States,
Speaker 1: having never saw permission to re enter the country. Now
Speaker 1: you may recall the de porter in chief was Barack
Speaker 1: Usain Obama, who deported over three million illegals. How much
Speaker 1: of an issue on Oyama was in the White House
Speaker 1: of reporting illegals out of this country. It was a
Speaker 1: non issue. It didn't matter. The media was on his side.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't report on issues of deportation. In fact, at
Speaker 1: this point in his presidency, one hundred days in this president,
Speaker 1: Trump has deported about thirteen thousand, and his first term
Speaker 1: he deported a little over one million. The deporter in
Speaker 1: chief was Barack Husain Obama. In fact, the remarks of
Speaker 1: Obama and Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton in the period
Speaker 1: of twenty oh six to about twenty sixteen were similar
Speaker 1: to the remarks of Donald Trump today. To go further,
Speaker 1: our March to twenty eighth, twenty twenty five. What about
Speaker 1: a month ago, Ice was informed of Flues Ruiz, who
Speaker 1: was charged in a Milwaukee court case facing three serious misdemeanors.
Speaker 1: One of the victims he has sought it by the
Speaker 1: way once to the hospital. So they planned to arrest
Speaker 1: Ruiz following a pre trial hearing on a the eighteenth,
Speaker 1: what about ten days ago, right, And they waited outside
Speaker 1: the courtroom. They never entered the courtroom. Ruiz's fingerprints and
Speaker 1: photographs were taken by the Milwaukee County Jail electronically submitted
Speaker 1: to the federal database, and someone out of keyboard said, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's the guy we've been looking for. Entered the country
Speaker 1: illegally committed crimes inside of America, was deported under Obama,
Speaker 1: quickly re entered the country. Sounds like somebody that represented
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party today, right.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: On April the eighteenth, about ten days ago, Ice planned
Speaker 1: to Arrestorease at the Milwaukee County Courthouse following his scheduled
Speaker 1: criminal court appearance outside of the courtroom of Judge Dougan.
Speaker 1: Six agents arrived on the morning of April the eighteenth,
Speaker 1: positioned themselves outside of the judge's courtroom. According to the complaint,
Speaker 1: Dugan instructed the officers, who were members of the FBI
Speaker 1: Homeland Security, and Ice instructed them they first must consult
Speaker 1: with the chief judge to facilitate the arrest, and the
Speaker 1: chief judge was down the hallway up the steps, so
Speaker 1: they trekked down the hallway up the steps. One of them,
Speaker 1: one officer, witnessed Flores Ruiz and his attorney exiting the
Speaker 1: courtroom from a non public hallway used by jurors. According
Speaker 1: to the federal complaint, the officers followed Ruiz and his
Speaker 1: attorney outside and then he contacted the other ICE officials
Speaker 1: who were walking down the hallway up the steps, and
Speaker 1: a footchase ensued and Flores Ruiz was arrested by ICE officers.
Speaker 1: At this point, after the arrest was facilitated, the one
Speaker 1: ICE agent who saw what the judge personally had done
Speaker 1: notified the other five what had happened. If that was
Speaker 1: you or me facilitating the escape of a federal fugitive,
Speaker 1: what would happen to you or I? It would be
Speaker 1: a bad situation. So this was a hot potato. So
Speaker 1: they wanted to pass it up the food chain. What
Speaker 1: do we do with a judge who's committing in the
Speaker 1: presence of ICE officials at least one seemingly two federal felonies,
Speaker 1: obstruction of justice and aiding a federal fugitive. So it
Speaker 1: went up the food chain and it came back down. Well,
Speaker 1: Democrats say, no one's above the law right, or a
Speaker 1: nation the rule of law right. So they waited a
Speaker 1: little bit of time, said okay, proceed. What they did
Speaker 1: then was file an affidavit under oath as to what
Speaker 1: they observed. And there were other witnesses in the hallway,
Speaker 1: including the two people that Ruiz had beaten, they wanted
Speaker 1: their day in court. So the decision was made to
Speaker 1: arrest her, and they did arrest her, and she released
Speaker 1: within twelve hours. She's now facing two federal felonies. Now
Speaker 1: you would think something called a purp walk is something
Speaker 1: used by the FBI all the time. The purp walk
Speaker 1: means you have some Wall Street criminal and you want
Speaker 1: to make sure the media is present when you purp
Speaker 1: walk them out the front of the building to just
Speaker 1: suaye to others from engage in similar misbehavior. And so
Speaker 1: our FBI director Cash Pattel put on some social media
Speaker 1: site Judge du Geant handcuffed walking into a patrol car.
Speaker 1: The media what nuts on that one too. So at
Speaker 1: this point you would think the legal system in Wisconsin
Speaker 1: would say, well, you know, judge, you can't do that.
Speaker 1: Well guess what not exactly. In fact, one of a
Speaker 1: fellow judge of hers has said the following. Her name
Speaker 1: is Judge Monica Isham i sham Aisham Isham said on
Speaker 1: Saturday yesterday issued a strongly worded email to judges in
Speaker 1: Wisconsin laying out her plans. She said, to the other
Speaker 1: judges in the state of Wisconsin, if there's no guidance
Speaker 1: for us and no support for us. I will refuse
Speaker 1: to hold court and branch to in Sawyer County. I
Speaker 1: will not put myself or my staff, who may feel
Speaker 1: compelled to help me in my community in harm's way. Secondly,
Speaker 1: she said, quote, I have no intention of allowing anyone
Speaker 1: to be taken out of my courtroom by ICE and
Speaker 1: sent to a concentration camp, especially without due process, as
Speaker 1: both of the constitutions we swore to support require. Well,
Speaker 1: someone needs to tell this judge that the Ruiz was
Speaker 1: not arrested in a courtroom. He was arrested on the
Speaker 1: lawn of the courthouse running away, and that when ICE
Speaker 1: put someone in jail, it is not a concentration camp.
Speaker 1: And this Rue's character had lots of due process. In fact,
Speaker 1: he had more due process than he was entitled to
Speaker 1: because he was in this country illegally twice.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 1: In addition to the judges, another judge, judge Pedro Cologne,
Speaker 1: who was in the Court of Appeals in the state
Speaker 1: of Wisconsin, issued another statement saying that he wanted his
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, one step above him, to issue guidelines about
Speaker 1: whether or not the activities of ICE was proper outside
Speaker 1: of a courtroom. The answer, of course would be yes.
Speaker 1: Of course, if Milwaukee County Jails allowed ice inside the jails,
Speaker 1: these things could be handled much easier. But see Wisconsint
Speaker 1: very liberal. The judiciary there won't allow such things to
Speaker 1: take place. So now you have the judges changing the
Speaker 1: facts to fit their prejudice. Number one, for Judge Dugan,
Speaker 1: they had a warned for her arrest. Number two, there
Speaker 1: was no ice activity inside the court courtroom. It was
Speaker 1: outside the courtroom, in fact, outside the courthouse. And number
Speaker 1: three or are they saying that judges have a cloaking
Speaker 1: power like in Star Trek, the next generation that can
Speaker 1: be cloaked somehow, that they don't have to follow federal law.
Speaker 1: I hope not. The governor is weighed in the governor
Speaker 1: Wisconsin saying similar things that judges do not have to
Speaker 1: follow federal law. They can violate the law knowingly and purposefully.
Speaker 1: And by the way, lost in all this are the
Speaker 1: two individuals that Ruiz beat up, put one in the hospital,
Speaker 1: punched him in the face thirty times. He wanted his
Speaker 1: day in court, didn't get it. So we live in
Speaker 1: perilous times. And they could identify flu as Ruez because
Speaker 1: of the database, and they went there to arrest him
Speaker 1: when he came out of the courtroom, when the judge
Speaker 1: and their staff said, there's ice waiting outside. But how
Speaker 1: did this judge know that Ruiz was illegal? How did
Speaker 1: this judge know that there was a worn out for
Speaker 1: his arrest. I would assume she had that knowledge, which
Speaker 1: is why she acted as she did. You cannot obscure, contradict,
Speaker 1: interfere with federal officials in the implication of their federal duties.
Speaker 1: You simply can't do it. So at this point that
Speaker 1: this will be a talking point this week. By the way,
Speaker 1: this is the only judge to do it. There was
Speaker 1: two other judges that have been noted, one in New
Speaker 1: Mexico for hiding and abating the arrival of illegal members
Speaker 1: of the Venezuela in the street gang to live with
Speaker 1: a judge and with his wife. And he's been arrested
Speaker 1: for hiding these fugitives members of street gangs inside his
Speaker 1: own home. And there was another case from twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: in which a judge, of course in Massachusetts, her name
Speaker 1: is Judge Shelley Joseph, departed federal court in April the
Speaker 1: twenty fifth twenty nineteen in Boston after facing obstruction of
Speaker 1: justice charge for helping a man in this country illegally
Speaker 1: to evade immigration officials, and she was arrested. But then
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, Joseph judged. Joseph surrendered to authorities
Speaker 1: and federal prosecutors under of course, Joe Biden dropped the
Speaker 1: charges against her. She was referred to the Massachusetts Commission
Speaker 1: on Judicial Conduct and the charges are pending civilly against her.
Speaker 1: There So we have three cases of judges ignoring federal
Speaker 1: law because it doesn't fit their particular political viewpoints, cloaking
Speaker 1: it in the idea of or saving these illegal immigrants
Speaker 1: who are criminals from concentration camps. And secondly, somehow being
Speaker 1: a state court judge means you don't have to follow
Speaker 1: the law. If you're a judge, Democrats say, don't follow
Speaker 1: the law, do what you gotta do, but protect these
Speaker 1: so called innocent persons from going to a concentration camp.
Speaker 1: In Ruiza's case, he was going to be sent back
Speaker 1: to Mexico and no concentration camp. He had no other
Speaker 1: criminal charges in Mexico, the only ones for misdemeanors in
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and in the other case. I don't know from
Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen case, but this other judge assisted an
Speaker 1: illegal alien to avoid apprehension arrest by federal officials. That
Speaker 1: warns out for the arrest. Judge Evers am I saying
Speaker 1: that correctly E V. E R S. Judge Tony Evers
Speaker 1: of Wisconsin said, quote, Donald Trump is undermining our judiciary
Speaker 1: at every level, including flat out disobeying the highest court
Speaker 1: in the land and threatening to impeach and remove judges
Speaker 1: who do not rule in his favor quote unquote. That
Speaker 1: is a bald faced, unmitigated lie. He has always said,
Speaker 1: I will obey any order from the US Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: and as far as removing judges, that's up to each
Speaker 1: state panel unless you're in jail. And this particular Judge Dugan,
Speaker 1: if the sworn affidavit from ICE and FBI officials is accurate,
Speaker 1: she committed at least two federal felonies and the presence
Speaker 1: of many others, and the Democratic Party has come to
Speaker 1: her assistance as if the rule of law doesn't apply
Speaker 1: to her. I thought no one was above the law.
Speaker 1: I guess not. Democrats are above the law. Look at
Speaker 1: the George Floyd Riots how many tens of thousands of
Speaker 1: serious felonis took place during the George Floyd riots. Was
Speaker 1: all that above the law? Absolutely people prosecuted. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: And now to have the other judges in Wisconsin encircle
Speaker 1: themselves around Judge Dougan is kind of disgusting because these
Speaker 1: judges are smarter than that. They have to follow federal
Speaker 1: law whether they want to or not. They took an
Speaker 1: oath under the Constitution of the state. US Constitution. Part
Speaker 1: of the US constitutions the Congress passing laws. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: doesn't pass laws. He executes the laws. He follows the
Speaker 1: law and does what he has to do. Another case
Speaker 1: and the Danny Boyce, Well, let's take a short break.
Speaker 1: After the break, I'm going to play you the comments
Speaker 1: back and forth between Christen Welker on Meet the Press
Speaker 1: this morning about the headline on a legal migration quote
Speaker 1: CNN headline tonight, as I look at twenty three minutes
Speaker 1: after the our four year old being treated for cancer
Speaker 1: deported despite US citizenship. Not exactly take a short break,
Speaker 1: we'll continue Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. You know,
Speaker 1: average citizens like you and I are supposed to follow
Speaker 1: federal law, federal criminal statutes. When we violate them, we
Speaker 1: tend to be either arrested or sided to court and summoned,
Speaker 1: and we have to plead guilty or not guilty and
Speaker 1: confront the consequences of our behavior. And I would contend
Speaker 1: that judges are even more required to follow the law
Speaker 1: than non judges. For example, teachers have a special relationship
Speaker 1: with students. There's laws, rules and regulations that apply to
Speaker 1: teachers that may not apply to others. You may have
Speaker 1: daycare workers who have to behave in in a certain way.
Speaker 1: You may have prison guards you can't do certain things.
Speaker 1: You may have police officers, but especially judges have jurisdoctor
Speaker 1: degrees like I do, and other degrees that have to
Speaker 1: follow the law because they know the consequences. And a
Speaker 1: judge who is a black robe is in a special,
Speaker 1: special special category to follow the law, whether you like
Speaker 1: it or not. But in this case, this is a
Speaker 1: direct affront to the federal criminal statutes. When Judge Dougan
Speaker 1: and two other judges at one point made it easy
Speaker 1: for individuals who had orders for their arrest from a
Speaker 1: federal court to ignore the consequences of their felonious misbehavior,
Speaker 1: and a judge is in a different category because that
Speaker 1: judge has got to perform in a certain way when
Speaker 1: she issues orders. I would assume she wants those to
Speaker 1: whom they're attached to to behave And in this case,
Speaker 1: the judge took the law into her own hands and said,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow these federal officials to arrest
Speaker 1: someone in my courtroom, by the way, for beating up
Speaker 1: people to face federal charges on top of the misdemeanor
Speaker 1: Wisconsin charges. What the hell's going on around this place?
Speaker 1: If judges don't follow the law, if mayriage don't follow
Speaker 1: the law, if cops are told to stand out of
Speaker 1: the George Floyd riots don't follow the law, what kind
Speaker 1: of society do we have when we come back, Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the four year old being treated for cancer.
Speaker 1: Deportae Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. Let's continue.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'll take calls at eight six six six
Speaker 1: four seven seven three three seven eight sixty six seven
Speaker 1: four seven three three seven. But until then headline CNN.
Speaker 1: Of course I monitor CNN, so you don't have to.
Speaker 1: By the way, News Nations. This Wednesday night between eight
Speaker 1: and ten is going to have on President Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo, steven A Smith, Bill O'Reilly. The first one
Speaker 1: hundred Days executive producer, of course is Sean Compton, to
Speaker 1: talk about what's happened. The first one hundred days headline
Speaker 1: is CNN says four year old being treated for cancer
Speaker 1: to port it despite US citizenship. So I clicked on
Speaker 1: the story. I said, this sounded pretty bad, and this
Speaker 1: morning I kind of watched them meet the press headline
Speaker 1: three children or US citizens, including one with cancer, deported
Speaker 1: with their mothers. Lawyers and ACLU group say, and the
Speaker 1: backstory is a little bit different. A mother was deported
Speaker 1: with took with her voluntarily who was here illegally. Her
Speaker 1: two year old and another mother who had a four
Speaker 1: and seven year old were deported and it was the
Speaker 1: mother's choice whether to take the kids or not. They
Speaker 1: were born in this country. She came into the country
Speaker 1: illegally under the fourteenth Amendment. As it is currently is
Speaker 1: situated that I ought to be changed that if a child
Speaker 1: is born in this country of illegal mothers, that they
Speaker 1: have automatic citizenship. So the question was asked by Christian
Speaker 1: Welker to the Secretary of State Marco Rubio about this situation.
Speaker 1: And here's what Marco said this morning. Hit it Danny
Speaker 1: boy on the headline.
Speaker 5: That's a misleading headline. Okay, three US citizens ages four,
Speaker 5: seven and two were not deported. Their mothers, who are
Speaker 5: legally in this country, were deported. The children went with
Speaker 5: their mothers. If those children are US citizens, they can
Speaker 5: come back into the United States and there's their father
Speaker 5: or someone here who.
Speaker 1: Wants to assume them.
Speaker 5: But ultimately who was deported was their mother. Who's their
Speaker 5: mothers who were here illegally. The children just went with
Speaker 5: their mothers, but they wasn't like you guys make it
Speaker 5: sound like ice agents kick down the door and grabbed
Speaker 5: the two year old and threw them on an airplane.
Speaker 1: That's misleading. That's just not true.
Speaker 6: Just to be clear, because I do want to get
Speaker 6: to the overhaul at the State Department. Is it the
Speaker 6: US policy to deport children, even US citizens with their families,
Speaker 6: and I hear what you're saying without due process?
Speaker 1: Just don't be very clear there.
Speaker 5: Well, no, no, no, no, no again, if someone's in
Speaker 5: this country unlawfully, illegally, that person gets deported.
Speaker 1: If that person is with.
Speaker 5: A two year old child, or has a two year
Speaker 5: old child and says, I want to take my child
Speaker 5: with you with me.
Speaker 1: Well, you have two choices.
Speaker 5: You can say yes, of course, you can take your child,
Speaker 5: whether they're a citizen or not, because it's your child.
Speaker 5: Or you can say yes, you can go, but your
Speaker 5: child must stay behind. And then your headlines would read
Speaker 5: US holding hostage two year old, four year old, seven
Speaker 5: year old while mother deported.
Speaker 1: So the point is no US citizen was deported. They
Speaker 1: were deported, but they left the country voluntarily in a sense,
Speaker 1: in the company of their mother here illegally, but no
Speaker 1: US citizens are deported. Headline says four year old being
Speaker 1: treated for cancer deported despite US citizenship. That is not true.
Speaker 1: The kid was not deported. The mother was deported and
Speaker 1: she decided to take her children with her, which I
Speaker 1: think many mothers would do. However, I would assume there
Speaker 1: was a father somewhere or a family member, and so
Speaker 1: the kids could have been stated there was no order
Speaker 1: deport holding US citizens anywhere. That's false. It's a lie.
Speaker 1: But see if the truth doesn't work, if you're with CNN,
Speaker 1: come up with something different. So that's where we are. Likewise,
Speaker 1: when a judge in Wisconsin. I have a call coming
Speaker 1: up from Monroe, Wisconsin saying Judge Monica Isham that I'm
Speaker 1: not going to hold court anymore until the leftist judge
Speaker 1: in Sawyer County, Judge Dugan, is somehow the charges dismissed.
Speaker 1: She isn't being held right now. I would imagine she's
Speaker 1: holding court tomorrow morning. So at this point she was booked, handcuffed,
Speaker 1: and released on an our bond. And it's a hearing
Speaker 1: in a few weeks because she knowingly, willingly, involuntarily, with
Speaker 1: specific purpose, to violate criminal statutes of the United States
Speaker 1: from America by assisting the obstruction of justice by obscuring
Speaker 1: the presence and identity Rui's character. Who was ordered to
Speaker 1: deport from this country and came into the country illegally
Speaker 1: twelve years ago, and under Obama was required to leave
Speaker 1: the country. He kicked him out. Obama is going to
Speaker 1: have in four years, two or three times the deportations
Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. He was the deporter in chief. Three
Speaker 1: million media didn't carry it, didn't cover it because they
Speaker 1: didn't fit their bias. They reported nothing negative about Barack Hussein, Obama,
Speaker 1: nor Joe Biden. I might add who was mentally incompetent,
Speaker 1: and the media knew was mentally incompetent. And now it's like,
Speaker 1: no big deal. The auto pen conducted US foreign policy.
Speaker 1: So let's continue And it takes several telephone calls and
Speaker 1: the next break will set up the big show tonight,
Speaker 1: including I have an interview I'm going to do with
Speaker 1: Leland Vinter of News Nation formerly a Fox News. He's
Speaker 1: on every Monday through Friday at nine o'clock and he
Speaker 1: knocked me over with a feather. Reported on the air
Speaker 1: two or three nights ago that he is autistic, and
Speaker 1: that's his family has raised him from me earl, I
Speaker 1: think he's like forty forty one years old, So when
Speaker 1: he was diagnosed decades ago, his family enveloped him and
Speaker 1: made him the anchor and news reporter is today on
Speaker 1: News Nation, and so that's going to be fabulous. Later on,
Speaker 1: also I have Steve Molloy to discuss the issue of
Speaker 1: climate change and man made climate change, how much money's
Speaker 1: being lost, much has written about the hoax, the myths
Speaker 1: about climate change, et cetera. And also later on we
Speaker 1: have a report from Rome about what's happening with the
Speaker 1: conclave coming up in about a week. But until now,
Speaker 1: it's go to Mark and Wisconsin many others then JD
Speaker 1: and Mark and Wisconsin. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And Mark, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm fine?
Speaker 7: How are you tonight?
Speaker 1: Great night to be an American. Thank you. What do
Speaker 1: you think about these Wisconsin judges taking the law into
Speaker 1: their own hands and acting as if they're like immune
Speaker 1: because of the black robes they wear.
Speaker 7: Well, I think those black robes also represent what I
Speaker 7: would call rulers of darkness. I'm wondering if we're only
Speaker 7: in the initial stages of US course sabotage. I think
Speaker 7: Fannie willis Juan mashan in uh Boseburg Smith, Yeah, you
Speaker 7: can put him in there too. Our only uh the
Speaker 7: beginning of what's coming down the pike. I think the
Speaker 7: globalists are attempting to infiltrate the US with international judges
Speaker 7: and uh with their ideologies and uh uh. Next to that,
Speaker 7: I also think that the Islamis are that are already
Speaker 7: in the country are trying to uh initiate the UH
Speaker 7: their ideology, which is Shariah. So between the two of them,
Speaker 7: you know, whether they're in they're in goods with each
Speaker 7: other can easily undermine the whole structure of our constitution.
Speaker 7: And again we the people in America itself and totally
Speaker 7: undermine us so that we're obviously no longer a nation anymore.
Speaker 7: And again, you know, I think the threat is that
Speaker 7: alarming where you know, and I think this is all
Speaker 7: leading to anti Semitism. And I also think they had
Speaker 7: one more point to this. It was Obama. They came
Speaker 7: to the forefront to justify Harvard, who's also getting free money.
Speaker 7: So we're getting a double WHEMI of undermining the country
Speaker 7: and paying for it. And at the same time, these
Speaker 7: people are anti Semiti, semis.
Speaker 1: Look at me, look at those way Mark. I'm a lawyer,
Speaker 1: been one most of my life, but my wife has
Speaker 1: been a judge for like thirty some years. Great respect,
Speaker 1: and the black robe is warned to indicate that I'm
Speaker 1: not Republican or Democrat. I'm not male or female. I'm
Speaker 1: a person that simply follows the law, and that Lady
Speaker 1: Justice is blind, deaf and dumb, and I follow the law.
Speaker 1: I looked the last few years normally circled around Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: You have prosecutors in New York, Atlanta, in Washington, d
Speaker 1: C out not to follow the law, but to get
Speaker 1: one man, show me the man, and I'll bring you
Speaker 1: a crime. And so whether it was Judge Mershawn on
Speaker 1: the five hundred million dollar fine from Letitia James, whether
Speaker 1: it was the prosecutors New York and Atlanta, Fanny Willis
Speaker 1: and Wade and others working with Jack Smith in Washington,
Speaker 1: they wanted to concoct a scheme, the object of which
Speaker 1: was to make Donald Trump locked up before the twenty
Speaker 1: four election. They weren't a crime, wasn't committed. Then they
Speaker 1: looked for the perpetrator. A man came forward to run
Speaker 1: for the presidency. So they looked around and tried to
Speaker 1: try to find a crime, and they could not find
Speaker 1: a legal one. So they made up issues that didn't
Speaker 1: exist except in someone's mind. No one with a reasonable
Speaker 1: jurish doctor to degree could indicate that in New York
Speaker 1: City that the accounts he was convicted of had any
Speaker 1: relationship to any criminal behavior that Donald Trump had engaged in.
Speaker 1: And Jack Smith, appointed indirectly or directly by Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: had the purpose in mind of locking up Donald Trump
Speaker 1: before the federal judge in Washington, d C. Who headed
Speaker 1: in for him completely throw on top of that what
Speaker 1: happened in Atlanta. That was a complete farce. So when
Speaker 1: I have Democrats talking about the rule of law, no
Speaker 1: one's above the law. About what about the prosecutors in
Speaker 1: New York, prosecutors in Atlanta, prosecutors in Washington, d c.
Speaker 1: What about the thousands and thousands of crimes committed by
Speaker 1: Democratic devotees during the riots in twenty twenty, the so
Speaker 1: called George Floyd Riots. How many arrests took place? The
Speaker 1: answer was none, Let them riot. In fact, Governor Waltz
Speaker 1: open up the windows in his governor's mansions so his
Speaker 1: wife could smell the aroma of freedom, which is burning
Speaker 1: buildings all around Madison, Wisconsin. Colleges were shut down, etc.
Speaker 1: There was an occasion that the police simply stood by
Speaker 1: and let buildings burn under orders from civil authorities. Talk
Speaker 1: about the rule of law, How about judges in Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: New Mexico and then Wisconsin working with illegal elements in
Speaker 1: their community to obscure the identity of wrongdoers sought by
Speaker 1: federal officials under ice detainers and other warrants. And so
Speaker 1: there was about a week that went by between the
Speaker 1: time judge Dougan committed her criminal act was a decision
Speaker 1: made that no one's above the law, including a judge,
Speaker 1: So the decision was made a treat like anyone else
Speaker 1: who would violated. Can you imagine if you're working in
Speaker 1: an office. Let's say you work in an office as
Speaker 1: a salesman or administrative assistant. You work in an office
Speaker 1: and next to you, you know in your mind as
Speaker 1: an illegal alien here, illegally who's committed crimes, and the
Speaker 1: Feds are looking. And let's say you see in the
Speaker 1: hallway coming into your office six federal officials to arrest
Speaker 1: a person next to you. And if you assist that
Speaker 1: person in going out a side door so that that
Speaker 1: person would not be arrested by the FBI for criminal charges,
Speaker 1: what would happen to you. I'm in a big studio
Speaker 1: right now in Cincinnati, Ohio. If I knew one of
Speaker 1: my cohorts there was a worn out for his arrest,
Speaker 1: and I knew that my cohort, my co employee, was
Speaker 1: about to be arrested, and I worked in a way
Speaker 1: and assistant that person to flee from the scene so
Speaker 1: that that person will not be arrested. I didn't think
Speaker 1: about it. I took positive steps in an active way
Speaker 1: to make sure that the person I knew that the
Speaker 1: criminal charge is pending against them in a warrant for
Speaker 1: their arrest, that I worked in a way that would
Speaker 1: make the arrest of that person more difficult or impossible.
Speaker 1: What would happen to me? What would happen to you?
Speaker 1: Thank you? No one's above the law. Judge Dugan is
Speaker 1: not above the law. Judge Joseph, Judge Shelley Joseph in
Speaker 1: Massachusetts is not above the law. And the appellate court
Speaker 1: judge who's approved all this, Judge Pedro Cologne, is changing
Speaker 1: the facts to fit his opinion. Judge Dugan was treated
Speaker 1: no differently than anyone would have been treated who obstructed justice.
Speaker 1: And no one's above the law. I guess unless you're
Speaker 1: a Democrat. If you're a Democrat, then you're above the law.
Speaker 1: Thank you. And by the way, can we find out
Speaker 1: now that another one of the victims, that Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 1: has been committed suicide a terrible event and she was
Speaker 1: trafficked in her teenage years by Jeffrey Epstein. The famous
Speaker 1: people including Prince Andrew Great Britain. Can we see who
Speaker 1: was on Loleda Island. At any point will we know
Speaker 1: if former President Bill Clinton had the services at Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein's Stable of Stars and victims? Can we learn those
Speaker 1: names at all? At any point? I hope at some
Speaker 1: point we do, and we find out who they are,
Speaker 1: hold them accountable, whoever they are. Well, let's continue with
Speaker 1: more the line becomes available eight six six six four
Speaker 1: seven seven three three seven Bill Cunning and the Great
Speaker 1: American with you every Sunday night, My Billy Cunning himless
Speaker 1: set up the rest of Tonight's great show. I'm watching
Speaker 1: Leland Viddad on News Nation about three or four nights
Speaker 1: ago go, and he made the statement that he has autism.
Speaker 1: And I've had lunch with him, met his family, and
Speaker 1: own him for quite a few years. I knocked me
Speaker 1: over with a feather, had no idea, And he's got
Speaker 1: a book coming out in a couple months to discuss it. Plus,
Speaker 1: we want to talk about the Southern border issue and more.
Speaker 1: And also these state court judges that ignore the law
Speaker 1: if it doesn't fit their personal political bias, ignore federal statutes.
Speaker 1: Sounds sounds like the Democrats in the Old South that
Speaker 1: stood in the hallways and doorways, not letting black kids
Speaker 1: go to a school in public schools. Now, the Democrats
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin are standing together saying federal law doesn't apply here.
Speaker 1: It doesn't. I think it does. So when you actively
Speaker 1: assist a criminal to flee from the scene of an
Speaker 1: arrest planned by FBI and the Homeland Security agents, and
Speaker 1: then act as if you've done nothing wrong, that's a problem.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Also is another problem is when you when when other judges,
Speaker 1: one and Massachusetts and one in New Mexico, actively assist
Speaker 1: fleeing federal felons from apprehension, that is a problem. Now,
Speaker 1: I would anticipate the Democratic Party, having a little bit
Speaker 1: of common sense, will have a lucid moment and say no, no,
Speaker 1: we can't allow state court officials to violate federal criminal
Speaker 1: statues and get away with it. But up to this point,
Speaker 1: as of Sunday night, all the comments of Wisconsin Democrats
Speaker 1: supports Judge Dougan in her felonious behavior on the bench
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. It's unbelievable, but it's not anticipatory. Not too bad.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a party I think boys should be
Speaker 1: in girls' locker rooms, and a party that believes anti
Speaker 1: Semitism at Yale and Harvard is okay, and that men
Speaker 1: should play female sports, that open borders make a lot
Speaker 1: of sense, that abortion on demand through birth is a
Speaker 1: great idea, and that foreign aid should include Big Bird
Speaker 1: being shown on TV sets and bag Daddy Rock. That's
Speaker 1: the modern Democratic Party. I can't imagine any president being
Speaker 1: dealt a worse hand than Donald Trump was given on
Speaker 1: January the twentieth. His one hundred day in office will
Speaker 1: be on Wednesday, and at that point the media is
Speaker 1: already attacking him viciously. Thank god. The media has lost
Speaker 1: its ability to control the national discussions. It's now done
Speaker 1: by podcasters and by talk radio, and the mainstream media
Speaker 1: is losing its way because it doesn't speak truth. Like
Speaker 1: CNN four year old being treated for cancer deported despite
Speaker 1: US citizenship. The four year old was not deported. The
Speaker 1: mother illegally was deported, and she elected to take a
Speaker 1: four year old with her, the citizen, instead of leaving
Speaker 1: the child here in the custody and control of a
Speaker 1: loved one in this country. So no US citizen is
Speaker 1: being deported, the mother illegally is being deported. But the
Speaker 1: headline communicates a falsehood, and I watched CNN, MSNBCS, so
Speaker 1: you don't have to. That's the kind of crap that
Speaker 1: you get on those networks. So let's continue with more.
Speaker 1: First up, this is fascinating that when I saw Leland
Speaker 1: Vidderd of News Nation talk about his autism, what his
Speaker 1: family went through to help him, I thought, I want
Speaker 1: to get him on tonight to discuss it. Plus later
Speaker 1: on it's the Great Michael McDonald of the Catholic League
Speaker 1: about the conclave. Later on also is Christopher Ruddy of
Speaker 1: Newsmax to discuss his relationship with Trump and the border issues.
Speaker 1: And also later on as Steve molloy of Junk science
Speaker 1: dot com about how eight billion dollars has spent every
Speaker 1: year formatting the idea of global warming. I could have
Speaker 1: used someone in the Midwest the last several days causing
Speaker 1: climate change, which is it's a hoax, it's a myth,
Speaker 1: it's not true, but it's well funded. Bill cunning and
Speaker 1: the Great American with you and all great Americans every Sunday.
Speaker 8: Night, Willie Brock.
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Speaker 1: Bill Cunning in the Great American Almost every Monday through Friday,
Speaker 1: nine o'clock News Nation, I tune into Leland Vindert and
Speaker 1: UH for the news of the day, and also the
Speaker 1: terror and Trump talking so much more and the Pope burial,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But nonetheless, the other night,
Speaker 1: I'm watching Leland Vidder. I've known for many many years,
Speaker 1: in fact, had lunch with him once, want to have
Speaker 1: more lunches with him, him and his family, and knocked
Speaker 1: me over with a feather. I'm watching Leland Vinder and
Speaker 1: he says he's autistic. He was diagnosed autistic some thirty
Speaker 1: five forty years ago, and he's only forty two years old.
Speaker 1: And I said, what joining you and I now is
Speaker 1: that same Leland Vinder? Leland, First of all, I don't
Speaker 1: know if the word congratulations is in order, because we're
Speaker 1: all some total of our experiences and our biology and
Speaker 1: all those kinds of things. But the story of you
Speaker 1: being diagnosed autistic when you were a little boy, and
Speaker 1: then your what's your father and what your family did
Speaker 1: for you is unbelievable story. You have a book coming
Speaker 1: out in September called Born Lucky, several months away, But
Speaker 1: first of all, let's go back in time. Tell me
Speaker 1: I have these beautiful pictures of you and your dad
Speaker 1: and et cetera.
Speaker 3: What were you?
Speaker 1: Are you young enough not to know the feelings you
Speaker 1: were having? How were you diagnosed with autism? Before we
Speaker 1: get on to the other issues.
Speaker 9: It was bill before they've diagnosed people sort of on
Speaker 9: the spectrum. So back then the only kids who were
Speaker 9: diagnosed at the time with autism were what we would
Speaker 9: now call profoundly autistic, that sort of anyone would see
Speaker 9: the child and instantly know that that was the situation.
Speaker 9: So I was diagnosed with what we now know as autism,
Speaker 9: and the I guess you'd call it symptoms or behaviors
Speaker 9: were very clear. You sort of got wildly angry. He
Speaker 9: had completely unable to read social cues, unable to interact
Speaker 9: with kids. In the book, we tell the story of
Speaker 9: my dad coming to see me and I think was
Speaker 9: fourth grade and I had been bullied so badly. He
Speaker 9: was coming to check on me at school, and the
Speaker 9: pe teacher said that he could come see me. But
Speaker 9: I was down on this other field because the pe
Speaker 9: teacher had put me to play with the girls all
Speaker 9: day because I you know how badly I was bullied
Speaker 9: in the issues I was having so lots of stories
Speaker 9: like that. But my dad decided that having a diagnosis
Speaker 9: there were a lot of different words for it back then,
Speaker 9: was not in my best interest because he was worried
Speaker 9: I would be defined for the rest of my life
Speaker 9: by that diagnosis. And while you can adapt the world
Speaker 9: to a kid, the real world doesn't adapt. So he
Speaker 9: spent the next eighteen years trying to teach me how
Speaker 9: to interact in the real world. And if you're never cured,
Speaker 9: I still, you know, will always be this the way
Speaker 9: I am. But he's taught me how to adapt. So
Speaker 9: the story of Born Lucky is the idea and proof
Speaker 9: that no kid has to be defined by their diagnosis,
Speaker 9: and the hope for parents, whatever their kids struggling with ADHD, bullying.
Speaker 4: Mental issues, physical issues.
Speaker 9: That there's real hope for parents that love and dedication
Speaker 9: could make such a difference because so many kids are
Speaker 9: diagnosed and they feel like there is no hope.
Speaker 1: I look at you and Elon Musk, and I'm thinking
Speaker 1: too autistic individuals that I've done famously well going back
Speaker 1: in time, were you perceptive enough when you were five, six,
Speaker 1: seven years old to know that you were different, that
Speaker 1: you had mental or behavioral problems, or that was that
Speaker 1: too young for.
Speaker 4: You totally at five or six?
Speaker 10: Know?
Speaker 9: As I got older, I mean, it was obvious that
Speaker 9: kids didn't want to play with me. It was obvious
Speaker 9: to me that kids ostracized me and bullied me. And
Speaker 9: as I got older, the bullying got worse. There were
Speaker 9: a lot of times that teachers were involved in the
Speaker 9: bullying and that kind of behavior. We tell those stories
Speaker 9: in the book and how my parents.
Speaker 4: Sort of dealt with that. But I think as I
Speaker 4: got older.
Speaker 9: I became self aware, but I didn't know what I
Speaker 9: was doing wrong.
Speaker 4: I didn't know why I didn't fit in.
Speaker 9: And a big part of the stories we tell is
Speaker 9: how Dad really coached me through that. And we tell
Speaker 9: tell a story about when I uh, he would take
Speaker 9: me to dinners and if I talk too much, he
Speaker 9: would tap his watch and that was my signal to
Speaker 9: stop talking. And then afterwards we would post game, almost
Speaker 9: like a sports game. Okay, why did I tap my watch?
Speaker 9: What were you saying?
Speaker 4: That was off rhythm? Why didn't you stop talking? Why
Speaker 4: did you tell that extra joke? Do you understand?
Speaker 9: You know that this person was trying to talk to
Speaker 9: someone else and you were monopolizing the conversation. Not to
Speaker 9: say that I don't monopolize conversations on television now, but it.
Speaker 4: Is it.
Speaker 9: It was a learned every one of these were learned
Speaker 9: skills for me, and it was hard, very hard to learn.
Speaker 4: So and I'm obviously a.
Speaker 9: Big part of this is giving hope and a big
Speaker 9: part of this just on a person the level is
Speaker 9: saying thank you to my dad. He sacrificed so much,
Speaker 9: and to obviously give so many parents hope that their
Speaker 9: sacrifices are worth it. So Born luckybook dot com is
Speaker 9: the website and today only Barnes and Nobles having a
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Speaker 9: Barnes and Nobles website Born Lucky, you get twenty five
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Speaker 1: That's one of the stories got to get out on
Speaker 1: parental guilt. And now that you're more than an adult,
Speaker 1: more than successful, have you had conversations about your parents,
Speaker 1: about maybe the guilt they felt they did something wrong,
Speaker 1: whether it was red dye number two, whether it was vaccines,
Speaker 1: whether it was a pollution. Did your parents have any
Speaker 1: sense of personal responsibility for this?
Speaker 4: You know, it's.
Speaker 9: Interesting you asked that because at the time, it was
Speaker 9: thought that autism was caused by sort of having a cold,
Speaker 9: patrician mother. That was the original thoughts of cause, and
Speaker 9: that obviously wasn't the case. I have one of the
Speaker 9: most wonderful, caring, kind, gentle mothers you could possibly imagine.
Speaker 4: You met her.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so I don't look do I think that my
Speaker 9: father would tell you, And again we tell this story.
Speaker 9: He probably had some issues when he was growing up.
Speaker 4: He famously was given the.
Speaker 9: Book How to Win Friends and Influence People, and it
Speaker 9: really helped him. He'd sort of learned from that book.
Speaker 9: I was far, far, far farther down the spectrum, for
Speaker 9: lack of a better term, than he was. So I
Speaker 9: think I don't know if there was guilt, but I
Speaker 9: think there was certainly a realization by him of what
Speaker 9: I was going through.
Speaker 1: And your father sold his business and became a twenty
Speaker 1: four to seven parent that allowed you to succeed famously
Speaker 1: when you do topics like this. I know RFK in
Speaker 1: the crosshairs right now because of his previous comments on
Speaker 1: vaccines and all the red dyes that are put into candy,
Speaker 1: breakfast cereals, environmental factors. You probably know more about the
Speaker 1: causes of this than anyone. If there is a cause,
Speaker 1: what does Leland Venters say about the cause of your autism?
Speaker 9: I think Bill, the whole point is we don't know.
Speaker 9: In Jay Badcharia, who's now the doctor and head of NIH,
Speaker 9: he was the doctor who very famously said that we
Speaker 9: needed to end the COVID lockdowns. He who was hurting
Speaker 9: kids and was called a.
Speaker 4: Quack, is now saying that we not only.
Speaker 9: Need to find a cause, but he says it's been
Speaker 9: really important a couple of days ago, which is that
Speaker 9: for the past number of years.
Speaker 4: Scientists have been quote.
Speaker 9: Afraid to ask the question. And that really stunned me
Speaker 9: and stuck with me. We should never be afraid to
Speaker 9: ask questions. The questions don't get us in trouble. The
Speaker 9: answers due and finally, now we're willing to have a
Speaker 9: convert about something that went from one in a thousand kids.
Speaker 4: When I was a kid to one in thirty two now, and.
Speaker 9: This should be the scientific question.
Speaker 4: Of our time.
Speaker 9: Why And maybe it is all prevalence now that we
Speaker 9: know more and are diagnosing earlier and everything else is great,
Speaker 9: but we need to answer that question conclusively.
Speaker 4: And I think.
Speaker 9: There's this argument going along, well, if you want to
Speaker 9: figure out the cause, then it must be that somehow
Speaker 9: people with autism are bad or wrong or you're not
Speaker 9: being supportive. Look, I went through what I went through.
Speaker 9: There's a lot of people who go through far worse
Speaker 9: versions of autism, people you call profoundly autistic. It is
Speaker 9: a spectrum that's not taking away from anything that someone's
Speaker 9: going through.
Speaker 4: But God, if I.
Speaker 9: Would do anything so that if my child or anybody's
Speaker 9: child didn't have to go through what I went through
Speaker 9: or worse, I don't know why we wouldn't want to
Speaker 9: do everything we can to find out the answers to
Speaker 9: these questions.
Speaker 1: Did you have you succeeded in life? I think you're
Speaker 1: only forty two years old, but you have succeeded. Did
Speaker 1: you succeed in life because of autism or in spite
Speaker 1: of it?
Speaker 9: It's a great question. I think it's personal for everyone
Speaker 9: and up until I was twenty or twenty one, I
Speaker 9: never knew about this. Now my parents didn't tell anybody,
Speaker 9: including me. Oh, so I think you'd have to say,
Speaker 9: in spite of now, are there probably things or I
Speaker 9: was succeeded by adapting. Whatever success I've enjoyed has been
Speaker 9: through my dad's teachings and adapting and learning to probably
Speaker 9: learning to modify the behaviors that were off putting. And
Speaker 9: I guess there are some, you know, advantages of being
Speaker 9: able to focus or see the world differently or in
Speaker 9: some ways looking at things differently. If I've enjoyed those benefits, great,
Speaker 9: I'd be hard pressed to to really list them. But
Speaker 9: maybe that's part of having never you know, never been
Speaker 9: told that this is what I was going through. And
Speaker 9: I think that, you know, that was a decision my
Speaker 9: parents made, and one that I think was important because
Speaker 9: I never not only did I never have any limitations
Speaker 9: placed on me, oh because he's autistic. But the flip
Speaker 9: side is I never gave myself an excuse, and no
Speaker 9: excuses were given for me.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 9: Oh, It's okay that my nickname was Lucky, hence the
Speaker 9: title of the book, Lucky's Acting this way.
Speaker 4: Or that way. There was never an excuse for it.
Speaker 9: It was never allowed or or or understood because of
Speaker 9: my condition.
Speaker 1: Is autism something today that has treated with drugs? It's
Speaker 1: a behavioral if there's millions and millions of Americans dealing
Speaker 1: with this today, maybe tens of millions are dealing with
Speaker 1: it today and they parents will do twenty million. Is
Speaker 1: it medicine or is it drugs? It's a behavioral modification?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 9: There's a lot, and it's a wide spectrum. And I
Speaker 9: do not profess in any way to be an expert. Now,
Speaker 9: this book is not a prescription. It's not a cure,
Speaker 9: it's not a how.
Speaker 4: To, It's none of those things.
Speaker 9: This is my story And as far as people find
Speaker 9: it useful and take from it inspiration, hope, the story
Speaker 9: of love and dedication, wonderful. That's what this is about.
Speaker 1: You know, I think of the road not taken or
Speaker 1: the road taken. I can only imagine the millions of
Speaker 1: kids diagnosed with autism, suffering from it in one sense
Speaker 1: or another, that did not have a loving father and
Speaker 1: a great mother, that do not have incredible support systems,
Speaker 1: And what happens to a young Leland Jones or Leland
Speaker 1: Smith who lives in ames Iowa, And uh, they don't
Speaker 1: have a father that gives twenty four to seven sells
Speaker 1: his businesses with them. It's just a nurturing, loving parent.
Speaker 1: What happens to the kid named Leland Jones and ames Iowa.
Speaker 4: I think it's a great question.
Speaker 9: And as I said, this isn't you know, this is
Speaker 9: no way of prescription. And I think I really acknowledge
Speaker 9: from the title on how lucky I have been. And
Speaker 9: I think when people read the book, they'll realize that
Speaker 9: did everyone quit their job and tell the businesses?
Speaker 4: And my dad didn't know.
Speaker 9: But the way he dealt with this and the dedication
Speaker 9: he provided, but also the way he dealt with it
Speaker 9: had a lot of positives and it's there. You know,
Speaker 9: some of the things that were done were very different
Speaker 9: than how I shall say, if in vote right now
Speaker 9: to handle these situations.
Speaker 1: Completely different. Nineteen eighty eight was almost the dark ages
Speaker 1: when it comes to the diagnosing of autism. It doesn't
Speaker 1: hasn't become something to the last ten or fifteen years.
Speaker 1: And now when you have numbers of one out of
Speaker 1: thirty one baby's born, it used to be one out
Speaker 1: of a thousand. Heck, maybe fifty years one hundred years
Speaker 1: ago is one out of ten thousand because there was
Speaker 1: no diagnosis happening at all and everyone is different. But
Speaker 1: to get help early speak to the issue of what
Speaker 1: do you still need help today at the age of
Speaker 1: forty two or did it stop at some point with you?
Speaker 9: Oh boy, Bill, you probably have to ask my fiance
Speaker 9: to she tell you I need help every hour.
Speaker 1: I know the feeling.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I don't think that goes away, and I
Speaker 9: don't think it has anything to do with autism. I
Speaker 9: think it's just a fastive life for us men. This
Speaker 9: is I think the message to get across and I
Speaker 9: write this that this is not a broken arm. It
Speaker 9: doesn't feel it's proved so many things that kids go
Speaker 9: through in life autism, APHD, social anxiety, physical difficulties, other
Speaker 9: kinds of mental difficulties.
Speaker 4: So do I still need help?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Every day.
Speaker 9: Do I still catch myself being socially blind or having
Speaker 9: anger issues or any of those kinds of things. Absolutely,
Speaker 9: But I've learned to manage it. I've learned to control it.
Speaker 9: And I think a really important thing that.
Speaker 4: My dad did was he never allowed.
Speaker 9: My diagnosis that. Obviously he didn't talk about to be
Speaker 9: an excuse. There was never a reason, and therefore it
Speaker 9: that was a powerful thing. Now, I didn't know what
Speaker 9: was happening, but it kind of forced me to behave
Speaker 9: in a certain way with certain expectations. Is that possible
Speaker 9: for everyone?
Speaker 2: No, But.
Speaker 9: I think now as I'm an adult, I see wisdom
Speaker 9: of it because I still touch myself in moments and
Speaker 9: I don't excuse myself.
Speaker 4: For doing it.
Speaker 9: It's like, God, Lucky, why did you tell that joke?
Speaker 9: Or why didn't you give Bill Cunningham that Putt? And
Speaker 9: I think through things in social situations. It's still a
Speaker 9: discipline and a learned skill.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable story, and I'm glad you're telling it. You may become,
Speaker 1: in a sense, the face of autism going forward. I
Speaker 1: anticipate the book Born Lucky, He's going to be a
Speaker 1: smash best seller. I anticipate that when people hear about
Speaker 1: the journey of Leland Viddtert. You went to Northwestern I
Speaker 1: think you went to the London School of Economics and
Speaker 1: throw on top without Elon Musk, who is one of
Speaker 1: the brightest richest men in the world, both with autism
Speaker 1: and for the parents getting a diagnosis this week that
Speaker 1: your child is autistic. It's almost a must read because
Speaker 1: it gives you a roadmap. But it's not the end
Speaker 1: of the child's life. It's the beginning. And maybe in
Speaker 1: the good old days, like I had answered my pants ADHD,
Speaker 1: little Billy's has to get up and walk around. He
Speaker 1: can't sit down. He got answer all that stuff. I
Speaker 1: think I had ADHD or I had something, but at
Speaker 1: that point it was simply get over it. But today
Speaker 1: we can have much better results than you. And Elon
Speaker 1: Musk are an example. Well, I mentioned to talk to
Speaker 1: you about the tariffs and about the Pope's funeral and
Speaker 1: about all that kind of stuff, and about the next Pope,
Speaker 1: and the white smoke and the black smoke, and the
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty cardinals to be in the Conclave
Speaker 1: and the movie Conclave. Didn't get to it, maybe the
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Speaker 4: You Leland, Thank you Bill, God blass.
Speaker 1: God bless America. Let's continue with more. Leland Viverdert knock
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Speaker 1: In fact, Leland Vindert of News Nation that has a big,
Speaker 1: a big presentation on Wednesday Night involving Bill O'Reilly and
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a great presentation by Sean Compton
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Speaker 1: with a feather? Who who could have thought that Leland
Speaker 1: Viddert is autistic? And to hear that story. When the
Speaker 1: book comes out, I want to get him on again.
Speaker 1: It's going to come out in September. It's a it's
Speaker 1: going to be a wonderful treaties about overcoming obstacles and
Speaker 1: I look at Leland Viddert. I've known him for a while,
Speaker 1: had some lunch with him at times here and there,
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Speaker 1: he suffered from a treatable kind of autism that's allowed
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Speaker 1: mom and dad and what they went through day by
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Speaker 1: him where he is today. And he's famously not existing
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Speaker 1: Musk is autistic. And both of them, I say, have
Speaker 1: done pretty well. While let's continue with more coming up next.
Speaker 1: Coming up next is Michael McDonald of the Catholic League.
Speaker 1: What's going to happen with the next Pope? Is the
Speaker 1: movie Conclave? And a roadmap or a documentary or fiction
Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday know by Billy Cunningham,
Speaker 1: the great American. Of course, it is Monday now in Rome,
Speaker 1: and normally there's about a nine day a difference between
Speaker 1: the burial and the conclave itself, which looks like the
Speaker 1: conclave will be a week or a few days from now,
Speaker 1: maybe Monday of next week, about May the fifth or sixth,
Speaker 1: schedule to start. But that's in the hands of the
Speaker 1: so called cardinals. I think there's about one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty voting cardinals that's under the age of eighty. You
Speaker 1: can be a cardinal over the age of eighty, but
Speaker 1: you can't vote. So that means Cardinal Dolan the New
Speaker 1: York City is going to be able to vote. I
Speaker 1: think he's like seventy seven or seventy eight. I think
Speaker 1: he'd be a fabulous pope. But that's a different story.
Speaker 1: And we've gone through now two hundred and sixty six popes,
Speaker 1: beginning with Peter. Upon this rock, I will build my church.
Speaker 1: No other religion can go to go back two thousand
Speaker 1: years with two hundred and sixty six consecutive popes. Some
Speaker 1: have been great, some have been good. I think the
Speaker 1: information about John Paul the second and francis extremely popular
Speaker 1: with the masses. A little different approach to things. Nonetheless,
Speaker 1: Benedict in the middle was BENEDICTA sixteenth who died in
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. Died in He left the papacy in twenty
Speaker 1: thirteen and died in twenty twenty two was a very bright,
Speaker 1: intelligent pope, but nonetheless he didn't hold the masses like
Speaker 1: Francis and John Paul the Second did. Joining you and
Speaker 1: I now is the great Michael McDonald of the Catholic
Speaker 1: League in the New York City, Michael McDonald, Welcome again
Speaker 1: to the Bill Cunningham Show. And so kind of layout
Speaker 1: over the next eight to nine days that is now
Speaker 1: Monday in Rome. What's going to happen the next eight
Speaker 1: or nine days with the cardinals getting ready to select
Speaker 1: one of them to be the next Pope.
Speaker 3: Hey, Bill, great to be with you again.
Speaker 10: So yeah, So over the weekend we had the funeral
Speaker 10: for quote Francis on Saturday.
Speaker 3: And now.
Speaker 10: There's going to be nine days of morning following the
Speaker 10: nine days of mornings when the conclave begins. Now, in
Speaker 10: addition to the ceremonial acts that go along with the morning,
Speaker 10: in this time, the cardinals are going to be taking
Speaker 10: an opportunity to, for lack of a better term, sort
Speaker 10: of caucus and try and find like minded cardinals and
Speaker 10: decide what's going to be the best way to protect
Speaker 10: the interest of the Catholic Church moving forward. And you
Speaker 10: know this is actually a very big deal in this election.
Speaker 10: I mean it's a big deal in every election, but
Speaker 10: particularly in this one. A lot of the cardinals have
Speaker 10: not had an opportunity to interact with each other. You know,
Speaker 10: in the middle of Pope Francis's reign, we had COVID
Speaker 10: a lot of these cardinals that he appointed, and a
Speaker 10: lot of them are very good men from the what
Speaker 10: they call the peripheries of the church, so from Africa, Asia,
Speaker 10: places that you don't really think of his Catholic strongholds
Speaker 10: that do have very strong and growing Catholic flocks there,
Speaker 10: and it's great that they're getting representation.
Speaker 3: But as a result, you know, it's not like how
Speaker 3: it used.
Speaker 10: To be back in say the fifteen hundreds, where it
Speaker 10: was definitely an Italian good and everyone was just kind
Speaker 10: of a village over and sort of knew each other.
Speaker 10: So it's very important that the cardinals take this opportunity.
Speaker 10: And then next week where we'll get into a little
Speaker 10: bit more of the cloak and dagger stuff that people
Speaker 10: are more familiar with if they've seen conflavor any of
Speaker 10: these other the boors or anything like that, where the
Speaker 10: real horse trading begins and all that type of stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see. You know, I don't think it's.
Speaker 10: Going to be anything as dramatic as that, but we
Speaker 10: do live in strange times.
Speaker 1: So well, you have the liberals and the conservatives in
Speaker 1: America today, the Republican Party is kind of the reform
Speaker 1: party that has switched. The Democratic Party in America is
Speaker 1: now the status quo party. And when I look at
Speaker 1: the last few popes, I would think that Francis And
Speaker 1: was from Argentina, Benedict was from Germany, John Paul the
Speaker 1: second Poland we have a streak here of non Italian popes,
Speaker 1: which is quite unusual. And the smart money you have
Speaker 1: a little group to two to three popes according to
Speaker 1: the media, which may mean nothing at all. That may
Speaker 1: be the favorites. Who are your favorites other than Cardinal Dolan?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Cardinal Dolan.
Speaker 10: He just turned seventy five, so you know, maybe I
Speaker 10: hope they don't consider that too old. I think Cardinal Dolan,
Speaker 10: if anyone's familiar with his senior's a great fighter, particularly
Speaker 10: for religious liberties here in the United States. I was
Speaker 10: really a very vocal voice on the Affordable Care Obamacare
Speaker 10: mandates that they're trying to make the little sisters of
Speaker 10: the fore pay for abortion pills. Yeah, very good on that.
Speaker 10: On top of that, you know, there's a couple of
Speaker 10: other good cardinals for more of that from that more
Speaker 10: traditionalist mindset that speak to the issues that Catholic League
Speaker 10: members are really concerned about.
Speaker 3: Cardinal Sarah from Africa.
Speaker 10: He's another great choice, very very strong on the issues.
Speaker 3: I particularly like him.
Speaker 10: A good cardinal to keep an eye on, probably not
Speaker 10: necessarily a contender, but to sort of see, especially in
Speaker 10: this week where we have the opportunity to see this
Speaker 10: chance for the cardinals to meet. A good person to
Speaker 10: keep an eye on is Cardinal Burke from America. He's
Speaker 10: another very strong traditional voice within the church. He's pretty
Speaker 10: much right on every issue that really matters. So I
Speaker 10: definitely keep an eye to see on who he's meeting with,
Speaker 10: who he's caucusing with, and trying to build a coalition
Speaker 10: around that. On the other side, Taglia from the Philippines,
Speaker 10: he's a little bit more of a reformist minded guy.
Speaker 10: He's name is making a lot of a lot of
Speaker 10: rumbling in the media and Zoopi he's an Italian.
Speaker 3: No one quite knows where he is on the issues.
Speaker 10: He's kind of everything to everybody like you know that
Speaker 10: sometimes that works. So yeah, the important thing to remember,
Speaker 10: of course, is the cardinals are going to be moved
Speaker 10: by the Holy Ghost to make the right choice for
Speaker 10: what the church needs in this present moment. Uh. Personally,
Speaker 10: I would say that the two big issues that I
Speaker 10: think that needs to be put to the next anyone
Speaker 10: that's going to be considered for the next pope is
Speaker 10: where do you stand on Pope Francis's deal with the
Speaker 10: Vatican and China which sort of normalize the persecution of
Speaker 10: the underground churches there. Not one of Pope Francis is
Speaker 10: stronger things. It would be great if we could rip
Speaker 10: that up. Supposedly it's secret, so we don't know what's
Speaker 10: in it. It's going to be in effect until at
Speaker 10: least twenty twenty eight, supposedly, but it did essentially give
Speaker 10: the Communist Party in China the ability to appoint bishops
Speaker 10: and really sideline the underground churches there. So it would
Speaker 10: be great if we could get somebody that was a
Speaker 10: little bit more concerned about that, because you know, in
Speaker 10: the West, we've got these militant seculars trying to limit
Speaker 10: religious freedom in the peripheries, such as African in particular.
Speaker 10: We always talk about this. The Muslim extremists there are
Speaker 10: cutting off the heads of Christians. More people are martyred
Speaker 10: for the Catholic faith in Nigeria than anywhere else in
Speaker 10: the world. So if you are willing to turn a
Speaker 10: blind eye to Chinese persecuting Catholics in their country, and
Speaker 10: that they're really bad about it, like don't don't get
Speaker 10: me wrong, but if you're willing to turn a blind
Speaker 10: eye to that, I don't know if you're going to
Speaker 10: have the strong moral conviction necessary to stand up for
Speaker 10: some of these other issues.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Michael McDonald of the Catholic League. I saw a snippet
Speaker 1: a night or two ago that one of the major
Speaker 1: networks was talking about the outreach that Pope Francis had
Speaker 1: to Muslim emams and others in which they had sort
Speaker 1: of a tacit understanding that both religions supposedly are about
Speaker 1: peace and that they must work to get rid of
Speaker 1: the terrorists within their midst. It would be great if
Speaker 1: the next Pope could use whatever influences have with with
Speaker 1: Islamic leaders to stop the murder of thousands the beheading
Speaker 1: of men, the rape of girls and women happening by
Speaker 1: Islamic extremists in Nigeria and elsewhere, in which they're buried
Speaker 1: alive and tortured for their faith. And this Fatic and
Speaker 1: China thing was not well reported. But we had a
Speaker 1: pope who struck a deal with shij Au Ping that
Speaker 1: the government and Beijing would appoint the bishops until twenty
Speaker 1: twenty eight. I never got that. I don't understand that,
Speaker 1: and so I wish Pope France as well. One of
Speaker 1: the best things AI I've seen generated is Pope Francis
Speaker 1: walking into heaven with five or six other popes welcoming him,
Speaker 1: including Benedict, Jean Paul the First, John Paul the Second,
Speaker 1: John the twenty third, Paul the sixth. They're back together again.
Speaker 1: But those two incidents are not Francis's finest hour. Now
Speaker 1: here's some big question for you A bit early on,
Speaker 1: Michael McDonald, I look at Jean Paul the Second, who
Speaker 1: helped bring down communism with Poland. He was an historical
Speaker 1: character in office about twenty seven years. He was loved
Speaker 1: and beloved and respected. Unbelievable. It was wonderful, was Jean
Speaker 1: Paul the second. Then we reverted, shall I say, to
Speaker 1: a conservative Benedict who's been on doctrine. My favorite pope
Speaker 1: of the last several, Benedict sixteenth was only in office
Speaker 1: about eight years, then he stepped down in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: And then Francis is the other direction in which he's
Speaker 1: may I say, perceived as somewhat liberal and somewhat progressive,
Speaker 1: and he's beloved. So we've gone from liberal conservative liberal.
Speaker 1: Does that mean the next one is going to be conservative?
Speaker 10: You know, there is a saying following a fact pope,
Speaker 10: there's a skinny pope. So someone that kind of indulges
Speaker 10: a little bit more tends to be followed by somebody
Speaker 10: that's a little bit more austere. So that could very
Speaker 10: well be in the cards, especially when you consider that,
Speaker 10: as we were talking earlier, a lot of these new
Speaker 10: cardinals that have been appointed Bipope Francis from the peripheries
Speaker 10: the church is they're calling in the press. A lot
Speaker 10: of them are very orthodox in their in their leanings.
Speaker 10: You know, when Pope Francis said we can have some
Speaker 10: type of blessings for homosexual couples. Uh, the African cardinals
Speaker 10: in particular mutinied over it. For lack of a better term,
Speaker 10: they wrote at the letter pretty much said we don't
Speaker 10: have gay people in Africa, so we're not doing this.
Speaker 3: Uh so some people are are from that writer.
Speaker 10: That's obviously not the case, but uh, it's just more
Speaker 10: of a way of saying that there are some very
Speaker 10: hard liners within uh the appointments of Pope Francis, that
Speaker 10: it's not necessary that we're going to end up with
Speaker 10: someone that is a carbon copy of Pope Francis.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 10: You know again, people that he appointed are rejected some
Speaker 10: of the reforms that he was trying to push through.
Speaker 10: So uh, this really is a bit of a wild
Speaker 10: card on where things go. And it's always been like
Speaker 10: this and that that is a beautiful thing, you know.
Speaker 10: I like throwing this fun little set out there. We're
Speaker 10: checking around work to see who the other people were saying.
Speaker 10: Back in twenty thirteen on who the next Pope was
Speaker 10: going to be, the media totally wrote off Cardinal Bigoglio.
Speaker 3: Who became Pope Francis.
Speaker 10: There was only one mention of him anywhere and that
Speaker 10: was his time's past, He's not going to do anything.
Speaker 3: And then checking around on Patty Power.
Speaker 10: They always put up odds on the pope and he
Speaker 10: wasn't even one of their top ten odds.
Speaker 1: So yeah, can you bet on this? I would I
Speaker 1: guess DraftKings for someone is betting.
Speaker 10: I mean, I know, I know historically Patty Power, they're
Speaker 10: out of the UK. I think they they always have
Speaker 10: odds on. It's usually who's going to be the next
Speaker 10: pope and what's what's his name is going to be?
Speaker 10: I think maybe how long the conflict's going to be.
Speaker 10: You know, I live over in New Jersey where you
Speaker 10: can just gamble, uh right from your living room couch
Speaker 10: and on your smartphone, so.
Speaker 3: I'll have to check it out when I get home.
Speaker 1: Uh, well, let's see what the lines are. But uh,
Speaker 1: who's ever's in the lead won't be there likely. The
Speaker 1: the movie Conclay was now the number one downloaded movie
Speaker 1: in the world. I saw it when he came out
Speaker 1: a week or two later. I thought it was totally ridiculous.
Speaker 1: The Sistine Chapel was blown up by I think Islamic terrorists. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then the allegedly they kind of picked the depicted
Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit coming in and they selected this secret cardinal.
Speaker 1: I think from Afghanistan whose name was not known, but
Speaker 1: he was he was an amorphidite or intersex or something.
Speaker 1: He had external male genitulia but internal female genitelia. And
Speaker 1: uh he was selected and then the you know, the
Speaker 1: the main actor, the main guy, Secretary of State had
Speaker 1: a serious talk with him and he went. The whole
Speaker 1: thing was over like a minute or two later. I
Speaker 1: want to know what happened. What was he actually was
Speaker 1: he actually made the pope or not? I guess was
Speaker 1: there any relationship Michael McDonald between the movie Conclave and reality.
Speaker 10: Uh, you know, loosely loosely, uh, like some of the
Speaker 10: traditions that they showed in there around the Conclave, which
Speaker 10: widely reporting on. You know, they meeting the Sistine Chaplin
Speaker 10: and they've got the two the two rows, and they
Speaker 10: burned the votes at the end of each uh election cycle.
Speaker 10: So yeah, like that that that stuff is real. But
Speaker 10: in terms of no, the you know, the the book
Speaker 10: that it was based on really does do a pretty
Speaker 10: good job of painting anyone in the church.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 3: That's so we say a little bit more traditional.
Speaker 10: As the villain, the African cardinal, Uh, he he had
Speaker 10: the illicit love child. Yeah, the Canadian. I think this
Speaker 10: Canadian guy he was he was selling off positions and
Speaker 10: bribing everyone so that he could come and favorite that.
Speaker 10: There was a liberal guy. I don't remember where he
Speaker 10: was from, but he was just neglected by the people
Speaker 10: as always as those darn traditionalist Catholics just always ruining
Speaker 10: things for us. Uh.
Speaker 3: So it definitely had that.
Speaker 10: Then when they adapted into the movie, uh, you know,
Speaker 10: you just constantly see and like just about every single review, Oh,
Speaker 10: they were so brave and uh addressing the sexual abuse
Speaker 10: crisis and all that, and it's like, this is supposed
Speaker 10: to be a political thriller about the electing election of
Speaker 10: the pope. You know, I know there were bad things
Speaker 10: that happened in the Catholic church, but not every single
Speaker 10: thing needs to revolve around that.
Speaker 3: But Hollywood refused to let that go. And they're the ones.
Speaker 10: That, you know, look at any studio out in Hollywood
Speaker 10: that they've got their share of abuses there.
Speaker 3: And then they they never bring that up. There.
Speaker 10: There's no heroic movies about Hollywood addressing hollywoodon abuses.
Speaker 1: Well, I've said before, Michael McDonald, the sins and crimes
Speaker 1: of priests a very very very small percentage indicates the
Speaker 1: goodness of God, because the world is filled with evil
Speaker 1: and is filled with goodliness, and to have one, you
Speaker 1: must have the other, to have forgiveness and salvation. And
Speaker 1: that's not the thing to focus on now. It's the
Speaker 1: who's going to be the next pope? Got black smoke,
Speaker 1: we got white smoke. I would think by Mother's Day.
Speaker 1: By Mother's day, we should know, like May eleventh, the
Speaker 1: week two weeks from now is two weeks some other day,
Speaker 1: and then I would think we'll have a pope next week.
Speaker 1: Sometimes and I think this Cardinal Sarah would be a
Speaker 1: great selection. I don't see an Italian pope whore in
Speaker 1: the streak of non Italian popes, and Italy's lost his sway,
Speaker 1: shall we say. And most of those selected, about two
Speaker 1: thirds of those are going to be voting, are devotees
Speaker 1: of Francis. Maybe the next pope will be Francis the second,
Speaker 1: because Francis was the first. And we'll see if that is,
Speaker 1: because right now he's extremely popular. I think some of
Speaker 1: his activities with the Vatican and China and Muslim extremism
Speaker 1: Nigeria and those kinds of things not my favorites. But
Speaker 1: Michael McDonald, we have the league lead. I have your
Speaker 1: website up, Catholic League. It's good stuff for the American
Speaker 1: people to look at. We'll see what happens. But once
Speaker 1: again you'll be watching all this week and next week.
Speaker 1: We should know within the next ten days who the
Speaker 1: pope is. He used to take weeks and months and
Speaker 1: sometimes years. Now it should be five or six days
Speaker 1: and we should know. But Michael McDonald of New York
Speaker 1: City Catholic League, Catholic League dot org is the website.
Speaker 1: Thanks again for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Michael,
Speaker 1: you're a great American.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. Bill, You're a great American as well.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Let's continue with more kind of odd
Speaker 1: that you can bet on DraftKings according to Michael, about
Speaker 1: who's going to be the next pope or how many days
Speaker 1: is going to be. To me, that's almost sacrilegious. You
Speaker 1: can't bet, you can't bet on the pope. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. Let's continue with more Bill cunning in the
Speaker 1: Great American with you and all great Americans every Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Billy cunning Him the Great America. Good to hear from
Speaker 1: Michael McDonald the Catholic League about his so called predictions
Speaker 1: of what the next who the next pope may be.
Speaker 1: My favorite is Cardinal Dolan. I think Cardinal Dolan would
Speaker 1: be fabulous or Cardinal Burke, although smart Money says they
Speaker 1: will not pick an American pope because that would give
Speaker 1: America entirely too much power. Let's continue now, coming up
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Speaker 1: Bill Cunningham, the Great America. Once again, the environmental wackos
Speaker 1: are at it. I thought when I first read this story,
Speaker 1: this can't be true. That is that there's an effort.
Speaker 1: There was an effort by the Biden administration, and now
Speaker 1: it's in Europe, especially in Britain, that sun dimming aerosol
Speaker 1: sprays will be injected into the atmosphere because a climate change.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Ah, this can't be true. Something's wrong with this,
Speaker 1: and I read the story Experiments to dim sunlight that
Speaker 1: fight global warming will be given the green light by
Speaker 1: the government within weeks. British outlet The Telegraph reports outdoor
Speaker 1: field trials, which include injecting aerosols into the atmosphere or
Speaker 1: brightening clouds to reflect sunshine, are being considered by scientists
Speaker 1: as a way to prevent runaway climate change because on
Speaker 1: to say, don't worry about the devastating effects and irreversible
Speaker 1: effects of blocking out the sun. According to the Europeans
Speaker 1: and according to Bill Gates funding it and the Biden administration,
Speaker 1: thank god that's over with. They're green light at this event.
Speaker 1: Of course, you don't need the Bide administration anymore. You
Speaker 1: got the Europeans. You got Bill Gates. And this story,
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Speaker 1: I guess we can't control well.
Speaker 11: Bill, Thanks for having me so. You know, for years
Speaker 11: people have actually been trying to do This is not
Speaker 11: actually new. You got some news last week. I wrote
Speaker 11: a column the Daily Caller about how the Trump administration
Speaker 11: is looking into a small South Dakota company that is
Speaker 11: launching balloons into the stratosphere. The balloons pop and distribute
Speaker 11: sulfur dioxide particles, which reflect sunback into the sky, and
Speaker 11: they sell cooling credits to people who want to sponsor
Speaker 11: these balloon floods.
Speaker 4: Now, that sounds like kind of a joke, can't make
Speaker 4: it up.
Speaker 11: But there are more serious efforts going on around the world.
Speaker 11: The Biden administration spent like twenty two million dollars on
Speaker 11: some of these efforts. There's an aircraft carrier parked in
Speaker 11: San Francisco Bay and they were firing sulfur dog side
Speaker 11: particles into the atmosphere from.
Speaker 7: My carrier deck.
Speaker 1: So this actually was going on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And.
Speaker 11: Of course now the British are getting into it at
Speaker 11: Bill Gates. You know, he's been dumping millions and millions
Speaker 11: of dollars. This is all kind of crazy. I mean,
Speaker 11: first off, I mean the idea, the concept, basically, it
Speaker 11: can work. I mean we know this from volcanic eruptions.
Speaker 11: You know, in nineteen ninety one, Mount Saint Helen, well
Speaker 11: not massaly Helms Mountain a tubo erupted and caused global
Speaker 11: cooling for a year or two in eighteen fifteen, and
Speaker 11: in the Indonesian volcano, Mount Tambora erupted and caused eighteen
Speaker 11: sixteen to be the year without a summer. So we
Speaker 11: know that it works, but do you really want that
Speaker 11: to happen?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 11: And then just as an an additional layer on top
Speaker 11: of all this, what they're doing is they're firing sulfur
Speaker 11: dioxide into the atmosphere and those particles reflect sunlight, so
Speaker 11: less sunlight hits the earth. Now, in the nineteen in
Speaker 11: the mid twentieth century, we had this problem, especially like
Speaker 11: around Pittsburgh and industrial areas of acid rain, and you know,
Speaker 11: acid rain, it was kind of a serious issue. It
Speaker 11: would rain and you know people's it would sting people's skin,
Speaker 11: you know, under really bad circumstances.
Speaker 1: That's not good.
Speaker 11: So right, so now these guys want to fire this
Speaker 11: pollution purposefully back into the sky to block out the sun,
Speaker 11: which of course we need, you know, to grow plants.
Speaker 11: So we're going to pollute the atmosphere cause acid rain
Speaker 11: block out the sun so we have less plant I mean,
Speaker 11: this is and use taxpayer money to do It's insane.
Speaker 1: Say Maloya, I'm against pollution. Are you against pollution? I'm
Speaker 1: against absolutely. We have an EPA's, city, county, state, federal
Speaker 1: spending billions of dollars every year, and pollution largely has
Speaker 1: been cleaned up. Looking at it, you can eat fish
Speaker 1: out of the o High River. You can eat fish
Speaker 1: out of the Mississippi River. I wouldn't do it. You
Speaker 1: can eat fish out of the Columbia River in Lake
Speaker 1: Erie people. There's an incredible money being made of fishermen
Speaker 1: and others going out on excursions into Lake Erie in
Speaker 1: Lake Michigan, and they eat the fish without developing a
Speaker 1: third eye in the middle of your forehead. And so
Speaker 1: it looks to me like pollution is generally under control.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about pollution. We're talking about changing the
Speaker 1: atmosphere by injecting aerosols to reflect sunlight. Now, what happens
Speaker 1: if we do that successful? The Europeans do that successfully,
Speaker 1: and then there's one or two more volcanic eruptions to
Speaker 1: block out the sun. Could we have a new ice
Speaker 1: age starting instead of the opposite. I don't know about you.
Speaker 1: I like little warm temperatures. I like to play golf.
Speaker 1: Maybe in April or May. We just went through a
Speaker 1: terrible winter in the mid It was colder, colder than
Speaker 1: a well digger's behind. It was bad. And so what
Speaker 1: happens if the Europeans did all this stuff and we
Speaker 1: have aircraft carriers injecting into the atmosphere in the San
Speaker 1: Francisco Bay aerosols and then we got one or two
Speaker 1: volcanic eruptions. Hello, I'll be wearing coats in July and August.
Speaker 1: Give me a full report. What happens if we have
Speaker 1: more volcanic eruptions on top of this stuff?
Speaker 11: Well that's exactly it. Though people don't realize. You know,
Speaker 11: I grew up in the sixties and seventies, and you
Speaker 11: know I had never never I mean, I went to
Speaker 11: a been to Pompey saw about what Mountains Zubus did.
Speaker 11: But I thought, you know, volcanic eruptions were just sort
Speaker 11: of a thing of the past. But of course they're not. No,
Speaker 11: and you're absolutely right. You know, one volcanic eruption, a
Speaker 11: serious one, like Mount tambour in eighteen fifteen or Mount
Speaker 11: Pinatubo nineteen ninety one. Yeah, we can weather that. But
Speaker 11: if there are two, and that could happen, I mean,
Speaker 11: what's to say it can't, We're going to be in
Speaker 11: a serious trouble. And then if we're already up there
Speaker 11: block with these stupid experiments, we would be in deep trouble.
Speaker 11: You know, we need the sunlight for our agriculture, which
Speaker 11: feeds the eight billion plus people on the planet, and
Speaker 11: there's really no room for less sunlight. I don't even
Speaker 11: know what the problem is what warming? Are we concerned about?
Speaker 3: What? You know?
Speaker 11: CO two missions are plant food. We need the sunlight
Speaker 11: for photosynthesis. I mean, these people are truly nuts. Bill
Speaker 11: Gates is way out over his skis. The Biden administration
Speaker 11: is way out over their skis. These people are insane.
Speaker 11: They'll be locked up.
Speaker 1: Of course. One of the experts on this is astrophysicist
Speaker 1: O'Neil deGrasse Tyson. He said at one point about fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago, quote climate change will make Earth a living hell.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's a living hell right now, unless
Speaker 1: you're in maybe Gaza or maybe Ukraine. He also said
Speaker 1: that all Arctic ice will soon melt. Polar bears are
Speaker 1: dying off. Global warming causes food shortages. Just on that issue,
Speaker 1: what causes food shortages? Is it global warming or global cooling?
Speaker 11: It's global cooling. And you know the last time we
Speaker 11: really saw that was during the Little Ice Age, the
Speaker 11: period like from thirteen hundred AD to the mid eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 11: It was cool in Europe and there were famines because
Speaker 11: there was less sun. Of course they didn't have the
Speaker 11: technology that we have. But cooling is not good for agriculture.
Speaker 11: You want warmth, you want co two. You want sunlight.
Speaker 11: Those things are necessary. We have to feed ourselves.
Speaker 1: Well, the other issue is climate change is worsening. The
Speaker 1: wildfires had some of New Jersey recently, mainly in California.
Speaker 1: And it's an article of faith if you try to
Speaker 1: listen or watch the nightly news, climate change creating infernos
Speaker 1: larger than ever, As it came out of the mouth
Speaker 1: of Leicester Holt that when there's California wildfires, NBC News
Speaker 1: quote climate change creating infernos larger than ever? Is that true?
Speaker 11: No, No, wildfires have always happened. Remember two years ago
Speaker 11: there was the air apocalypse on the East coast because
Speaker 11: the Canadian wildfires. Well that had happened during George Washington's time.
Speaker 11: He had written about it in his diary. But you
Speaker 11: know the problem today is that we are intentionally letting
Speaker 11: our forests go and public spaces, letting the brush grow.
Speaker 11: And of course if there's a spark or an arsonist
Speaker 11: or what have you, they're going to go up. They're
Speaker 11: going to cause wildfires, and it's you know, going to
Speaker 11: be they're going to be tough to control because we've
Speaker 11: left all this, We've turned our forests into tinder boxes
Speaker 11: and it's hard to put that put out those fires.
Speaker 11: They burn hot, they're easy to start, they spread, and
Speaker 11: it's it's our fault.
Speaker 1: Well, Steve Molloyd junkscience dot com. US Forest Service data
Speaker 1: shows and they report this, but it's not reported in
Speaker 1: the media that there were many more forest fires in
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirties than there is to and the climate
Speaker 1: climate has gotten a little bit warmer, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: dry out the trees and calls wildfires. Is that correct,
Speaker 1: that's correct.
Speaker 11: So in the early twentieth century we started fire suppression
Speaker 11: and we got wildfires under control. But then in the
Speaker 11: nineteen eighties, you know, we started banning, logging, we started banning,
Speaker 11: you know, forest management, and of course all this wood
Speaker 11: deadwood has piled up and these things have become tinderboxes.
Speaker 11: It was again, it's our fault. Wildfires are nowhere near
Speaker 11: what they were at the beginning of the twentieth century,
Speaker 11: but they have upticked a little bit and it's because
Speaker 11: of our forest mismanagement.
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety nine The Guardian. Also nineteen ninety nine, al
Speaker 1: Gore a secret report warns that major European cities and
Speaker 1: the coastlines of Florida will be sunk beneath the rising
Speaker 1: seas in twenty five years. So here we are twenty
Speaker 1: six years later. Are European cities under seawater? And as
Speaker 1: the coastline of Florida was like twelve hundred miles down
Speaker 1: and across. Are large parts of Florida now uninhabitable because
Speaker 1: of rising sea levels? Is that going on because this
Speaker 1: was predicted twenty five years ago?
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, I remember in nineteen eighty six, EPA said
Speaker 11: that by twenty twenty Florida would be two feet underwater.
Speaker 11: Of course that's not true. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 11: sea level rise in Miami is actually less than what
Speaker 11: they estimate for the world. Generally says none of this
Speaker 11: has ever happened. But Bill, there is no apocalyptic climate
Speaker 11: prediction that has ever come true. These people are wrong
Speaker 11: one hundred percent of the time, but they get one
Speaker 11: hundred percent of the media coverage for their predictions, and
Speaker 11: there's no media coverage when they sail.
Speaker 1: As far as the cost of this, the price if
Speaker 1: someone I always say, follow the money whenever there's a
Speaker 1: question about why does something happen? If you say money,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get it right. Ninety percent of the time.
Speaker 1: How much money has Al Gore, who's now worth two
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars In other words, they monetize Stacy Abrams
Speaker 1: gets one point nine billion dollars a year and a
Speaker 1: half ago to study refrigerators and the state of Georgia.
Speaker 1: How much money is involved in promoting these theories, who's paid,
Speaker 1: how much are they paid? And is anyone teaching in
Speaker 1: school something different than man made climate change is going
Speaker 1: to kill the polar bears. How big of an industry
Speaker 1: is man made climate change? Global warming? How much money
Speaker 1: we're talking about.
Speaker 11: Well, it's a multi trillion dollar industry. They want to
Speaker 11: turn it into a multi hundred trillion dollar industry. They
Speaker 11: want the entire global economy, you know, oriented towards various
Speaker 11: forms of climate idiocy. You know, this is wees stuff.
Speaker 11: World economic Form, one world, the entire global GDP will
Speaker 11: just be a climate money and climate prevention.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I mean, look how hard climate scammers are fighting for
Speaker 11: the green new scam funding that President Trump is trying
Speaker 11: to kill, even even red states, even the oil industry, right,
Speaker 11: I mean, it's just it, It's really incredible.
Speaker 7: It's all driven by money.
Speaker 11: Except for of course, you know, the green scam is
Speaker 11: mostly powered by the left right. So the left they
Speaker 11: want to turn off communists, they want to use climate
Speaker 11: to do it. They want control of everything. But then
Speaker 11: you have these useful idiots on on the capitalist side
Speaker 11: that want to make money from that. And you know,
Speaker 11: let's hope they get hung first.
Speaker 1: Steve Molloyd, Junk Science dot com. The two largest economies
Speaker 1: in the world as far as population is China and India.
Speaker 1: Between the two of them, they have about done three
Speaker 1: billion people between India and China. Any of these rules
Speaker 1: apply to.
Speaker 9: Them, No, no, no.
Speaker 11: And the interesting thing is in nineteen ninety seven, when
Speaker 11: the Kyoto Treaty was being negotiated, the Senate voted ninety
Speaker 11: five to zero to not do anything on climate unless
Speaker 11: China and India were going to do something. But China
Speaker 11: and India never did. But you know Joe Biden, who
Speaker 11: voted in nineteen seven ninety seven, voted against doing anything.
Speaker 11: All of a sudden, in twenty twenty two, made this
Speaker 11: Inflaci Reduction Act happen, where you know, we're spending more
Speaker 11: than a trillion dollars on climate idiots. See, meanwhile, China
Speaker 11: and India are burning more coal than ever.
Speaker 1: And of course Colleges University. I have a story here
Speaker 1: received in the last two years of the Bide administration,
Speaker 1: eight billion dollars the Colleges University is to study global warming.
Speaker 1: Eight billion dollars went out the door. And you have
Speaker 1: a column up about the Interior Department must enforce Trump's
Speaker 1: offshore wind band, which of course they don't want to enforce.
Speaker 1: Explain the why doesn't Why don't the East Coast cities,
Speaker 1: in the West Coast, all blue cities and blue states
Speaker 1: want to enforce the ban on offshore wind? Why is that?
Speaker 3: Beat me?
Speaker 11: I mean, fifty years ago it will save the whales.
Speaker 11: Now it's killed the whales. Offshore wind is killing whales.
Speaker 11: They've been permitted to kill whales. They've also been permitted
Speaker 11: to kill dolphins and porpoises and seals. They have all
Speaker 11: sorts of other you know, environmental effects. Mean, you know,
Speaker 11: from each wind turbine there's a cable that's carrying electricity
Speaker 11: warms through you surrounding water to one hundred and forty degrees,
Speaker 11: which is not conducent to life. I mean, it's like
Speaker 11: the water in your shower, right, And we've overlooked all
Speaker 11: these environmental problems to get these things up because they're
Speaker 11: politically correct and there's money involved. Trump administration. You, President
Speaker 11: Trump is against these things, but he's having a hell
Speaker 11: of the time trying to shut them down. He just
Speaker 11: shut down one in off off coast of New York.
Speaker 11: But there are others going up on the east coast,
Speaker 11: including the largest one, Virginia Dominion Energy is building one.
Speaker 11: He's got to shut that down too. By May first.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, EV's are great until Tesla and Elon
Speaker 1: Muskets involved with. Now EV's are bad, and they'll save
Speaker 1: the whales. Was a great idea. I got to save
Speaker 1: the whales and the dolphins. God bless the whales and dolphins,
Speaker 1: except if it gets in the way of a mandate
Speaker 1: for electricity production by these windmills that are killing the whales.
Speaker 1: So a few years ago with saved the whales. Now
Speaker 1: it's killed the whales. A few years ago it was
Speaker 1: buy evs, Now, don't buy evs. A few years ago
Speaker 1: it was buy American and by the way, the most
Speaker 1: American produced vehicle in the world is Tesla. Now they're
Speaker 1: saying don't do that. In fact, they're protesting days of
Speaker 1: rage are going to take place. I know last weekend
Speaker 1: it was days of rage about getting rid of EV's
Speaker 1: and buying internal combustion engines. Senator Kelly of Arizona had
Speaker 1: two evs. He got rid of both of them. Hollywood
Speaker 1: actors and actresses and singers are getting rid of their
Speaker 1: evs buying gasoline powered cars. So at one point we
Speaker 1: have to go EV Now we can't. At one point
Speaker 1: it was saved the whales. Now you get permis to
Speaker 1: kill the whales. Am I confused? Am I stating the
Speaker 1: facts actually are.
Speaker 11: Staying in the sacks accurately. Look, there's no part of
Speaker 11: the modern environmental agenda that is part that is about
Speaker 11: the environment. It's all about politics and control and money.
Speaker 11: You know, we cleaned up the environment a long time ago.
Speaker 3: As you pointed out.
Speaker 11: About the fish you can catch in the rivers. You know,
Speaker 11: in nineteen sixty nine the rivers would catch on fire.
Speaker 3: Well, now fish out of them.
Speaker 11: Now you can eat fish out of them, because I mean,
Speaker 11: you know they could be cleaner. But it's you know,
Speaker 11: we're working on it. We're making progress, and you can
Speaker 11: eat the fish. The air is clean, The air is
Speaker 11: cleaner than it way cleaner than it needs to be.
Speaker 11: But yet you know, the environment is getting worse and
Speaker 11: worse and worse according to the environmentalists because they want
Speaker 11: the money and the power.
Speaker 1: Let's spray more aerosols in the atmosphere to reflect the
Speaker 1: sun and cause a cooling effect, which is going to
Speaker 1: make sure that we can't grow plants. It's wonderful, all right,
Speaker 1: all the stuffs at junk science dot Com and Steve molloy,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Steve,
Speaker 1: you're a great American. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Let's continue with more. I'm reading this Bill Gates lobbies
Speaker 1: European he will fund the airsol release of calcium carbonates
Speaker 1: in the atmosphere to reflect the sun, which will cause
Speaker 1: maybe a new ice age, which means we're all going
Speaker 1: to die. Buy EV. Don't buy EV. Save the whales,
Speaker 1: Kill the whales. I'm somewhat confused. Bill Cunningham, the Grand
Speaker 1: American Live with you every Sunday Night by Billy cunning
Speaker 1: Him The Great American. The whole hoax and the falsehoods
Speaker 1: and the myths about man made climate change caused by
Speaker 1: global warming are all collapsing. In front of us. As
Speaker 1: Steve Molloy points out, junk signs dot com. Check it out,
Speaker 1: junksigns dot com. Follow the money. There's about eight billion
Speaker 1: dollars a year. Hand it out every year over the
Speaker 1: past seven or eight years to think tanks, to democratic
Speaker 1: activist groups, to colleges and universities, et cetera, the goal
Speaker 1: of which is to make sure that the ideas of
Speaker 1: man made global warming causing climate change is so inculcated
Speaker 1: in the soul of American people it cannot be questioned.
Speaker 1: And now the whole thing's falling apart. The party that
Speaker 1: the man that we all drive evs has gone after Tesla,
Speaker 1: the party who said save the whales now says kill
Speaker 1: the whales. It is unbelievable to watch. I let's continue
Speaker 1: with more coming up next to this Christopher Ruddy of
Speaker 1: Newsmax all about Trump on Bill Cunningham The Great American
Speaker 1: live with you every Sunday, you know by Billy Cunningham,
Speaker 1: the Great American. Of course, Newsmax is one of the
Speaker 1: most important websites I think in America because I have
Speaker 1: it up on I have it on my phone an icon.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my right I have it up now
Speaker 1: Newsmax dot Com, tell television and printing so much more,
Speaker 1: and of course the chief cook and bottle washer, the CEO.
Speaker 1: The founder is Christopher Ruddy, who rang the opening bell
Speaker 1: at the New York Stock Exchange for New Max's recent
Speaker 1: a successful IPO. He's a close friend of the President
Speaker 1: and many issues are percolating. Christopher Ruddy, Welcome again to
Speaker 1: the Bill Cunningham Show. First of all, congratulations on the roll.
Speaker 12: Out of the IPO. It's been quite successful. Congratulations well, Bill.
Speaker 12: Congratulations to you. I hear you're in over five hundred
Speaker 12: stations these days with your national show and just amazing
Speaker 12: in Ohio. So I'm glad to be on with you.
Speaker 12: It's a great honor.
Speaker 13: I was greatly honored to be opening bell at the
Speaker 13: New York Stock Exchange earlier this month. Newsmax became public
Speaker 13: March thirty, first on the Exchange. We were the first
Speaker 13: regulation and company ever. It go directly to the Big Board.
Speaker 3: We had a.
Speaker 13: Record involvement and increase that day.
Speaker 3: People.
Speaker 13: The demand was so great for Newsmax stock. I think
Speaker 13: it's a sign people are turning off the old media, right.
Speaker 13: They don't trust them anymore. They're coming to places like
Speaker 13: Newsmax and Bill.
Speaker 1: Cunningham, Well, what's happening. I think the dinosaur media is dead.
Speaker 1: They died about eight nine years ago and the burials
Speaker 1: taking place. And as a consequence, if you would watch
Speaker 1: only ABC, NBCCBSPBS, only read the New York Times Washington Post,
Speaker 1: the country's incomplete collapse. Nothing's going right. The economy's heading
Speaker 1: toward a recession, if not a depression. US military is
Speaker 1: completely demoralized, and we have now Gang Bang members that
Speaker 1: are being adopted by the Radical Democratic Party. It's incredible.
Speaker 1: Let's talk number one about tariffs. The markets are extremely
Speaker 1: jittery because of what Trump has to do. Everyone I
Speaker 1: talked to says this had to be done. Explain the
Speaker 1: off ramps on the tariff disputes and how that's going
Speaker 1: to benefit the American people.
Speaker 13: Well, as you know, I've known the president for almost
Speaker 13: thirty years, so we talk a lot. I just spoke
Speaker 13: to him the other week and several times about tariffs.
Speaker 13: And you know, here's the thing you have to understand.
Speaker 13: He's really not for tariffs. He's for fair trade deals.
Speaker 13: He's for more jobs and more money coming into America.
Speaker 13: I think this is great, right. What he sees the
Speaker 13: tariff is his only weapon that he has to get
Speaker 13: these countries like China the EU to stop their unfair
Speaker 13: trade deals. You go out on the street, you go
Speaker 13: out in Cincinnati, you go out in here, you won't
Speaker 13: find American cars the numbers. You see farm cars all
Speaker 13: over the place, but not in the numbers. You go
Speaker 13: into Europe, all you see are their cars. You don't
Speaker 13: see American cars. You don't see in China American cars.
Speaker 13: I've been to both and so they're not buying our stuff,
Speaker 13: and there's tariffs if we try to trade our stuff there.
Speaker 13: And Trump says, what's this about? This is crazy, and
Speaker 13: he's overthrowing forty years of bad trade policy. I shay
Speaker 13: give him more time. Don't be nervous. He's got a
Speaker 13: great economic plan. He's going to bring the economy back
Speaker 13: and people can continue to invest in the stock market
Speaker 13: as I am and other things because Donald Trump's in charge.
Speaker 1: And this will end at some point, and whether it's
Speaker 1: a week, a month, or six months, everyone says there
Speaker 1: there's an ending to this, which means that American products
Speaker 1: can be sold in Europe or China and can be
Speaker 1: sold in South Korea, the Philippines can be sold in
Speaker 1: the EU. You seldom to see a Ford or a
Speaker 1: Chevy anywhere in Europe. And it's got to stop, and
Speaker 1: somebody had to do it. Instead of getting the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt from the media, they attack him mercilessly
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. And China now is telling the
Speaker 1: nations they deal with guess what if you deal with America,
Speaker 1: you can't deal with us. And that's even better for us. Correct,
Speaker 1: But we're the market. We're about twenty six percent of
Speaker 1: the world's GDP. About forty percent of consumer spending is
Speaker 1: right in America. And so is China not hearing what
Speaker 1: Trump is saying about tariffs.
Speaker 13: Yeah, think about it. We're only five percent of the
Speaker 13: world population of forty percent of the spending. I mean,
Speaker 13: we are the global giant. But you know, Trump comes
Speaker 13: along and he's saying he's ending this bs, he wants
Speaker 13: to bring back jobs. He also was very scared. I
Speaker 13: can tell you he didn't make a big issue of it,
Speaker 13: but he was not happy. During COVID, China slow walked
Speaker 13: a lot of equi medical equipment and a lot of
Speaker 13: pharmaceuticals here. They made it very difficult. He knows it,
Speaker 13: and he doesn't trust them anymore. Supply chains. We need
Speaker 13: to have critical industries here in the United States. We
Speaker 13: need to have a car industry, because you can't have
Speaker 13: a military industry if you don't make cars. So he's
Speaker 13: definitely going to keep a car tariff here, which should
Speaker 13: be good for US car automakers by the way, But
Speaker 13: I definitely, you know, he's got a very sensible approach.
Speaker 13: You know, when he ended his presidency bill, as you
Speaker 13: would call, everything was a peace basically in the Middle East.
Speaker 13: There was no war in Russia, nor he even got
Speaker 13: the North Korean stopped their missile testing. I mean, who
Speaker 13: could have believed it?
Speaker 3: No one.
Speaker 1: And I'd look on the tariff front about Honda that
Speaker 1: was making their hybrid Civic and Mexico. They're now coming
Speaker 1: to Indiana and many foreign car makers are now going
Speaker 1: to come into America and build factories here. And that
Speaker 1: doesn't happen overnight. Here we are about the one hundred
Speaker 1: day mark of the Trump presidency. It may take one
Speaker 1: to three years for that to happen, but it's on
Speaker 1: the glide path to getting it done. And the Communist
Speaker 1: Red Chinese kill one hundred thousand Americans a year through fentanyl.
Speaker 1: They are thieves, crooks, and liars. I'm talking about the government,
Speaker 1: not the people of China. When it comes to intellectual
Speaker 1: property IP, that kind of stuff they steal. The idea
Speaker 1: is and they're an import nation. This is little known
Speaker 1: Christopher Ruddy that they get about eighty percent of their
Speaker 1: energy through imports and also many of their food stuffs
Speaker 1: through imports. They're extremely vulnerable right now, including the trillions
Speaker 1: of dollars of losses in their real estate markets. And
Speaker 1: the fact that they're a communist country that kill Christians.
Speaker 1: That's little known. Wigers a Muslim minority or in concentration camps,
Speaker 1: Catholics and Christians are obliterated, obliterated and slaughtered. There's no
Speaker 1: property rights in China. You can't be a Christopher Ruddy
Speaker 1: in China and live uh with with your with your
Speaker 1: thoughts on politics. And there's no sense of personal property.
Speaker 1: No one owns anything in China. The government come in
Speaker 1: and take it away. And I think we've found ourselves
Speaker 1: in a situation that were extremely vulnerable. This had to
Speaker 1: happen at some point. You also have a reference at
Speaker 1: newsmaxs Christo Ruddy about there's a good chance that that
Speaker 1: car tariffs may never come off. Can you explain that
Speaker 1: to the American people.
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I was saying earlier Bill that you know,
Speaker 13: President Trump sees the car industry is very important for
Speaker 13: national security. If you don't have car, you can't build
Speaker 13: military vehicles, you can't build tanks and other materials. So
Speaker 13: he believes that we need a car industry for national security.
Speaker 13: I think what we've seen is supply lines a very
Speaker 13: week that China wants to interrupt up those supply lines.
Speaker 13: They can really cause a lot of damage to America
Speaker 13: if we ever get into a war. And you say
Speaker 13: that won't happen, well, they're threatening war. Chinese has been
Speaker 13: threatening war pretty regularly these days over Taiwan, even over
Speaker 13: trade policy. They've hinted that they've got a war with
Speaker 13: the United States. And so we need a car industry.
Speaker 13: And the President says, the only way you build up
Speaker 13: a car industry here is you have a ten twenty
Speaker 13: percent tariffon car, So you can still buy foreign cars,
Speaker 13: you're just going to pay more and you get American
Speaker 13: cars at a much better price. And so that's what
Speaker 13: he's planning on. I think it's a good idea. I
Speaker 13: think that you need to have a car industry. And
Speaker 13: in the old days, the politicians would think about that
Speaker 13: because they are patriots. But over time everybody just started
Speaker 13: doing deals. You know, these Chinese companies or industries would
Speaker 13: hire lobbyists in Washington, paid big money a former congressmen
Speaker 13: and senators, and they get whatever they wanted in Washington.
Speaker 13: And Trump's Trump's not a politician, like, why are we
Speaker 13: doing these deals? And the media, you know, should be
Speaker 13: applauging them. Instead they're trying to denigrate him and take
Speaker 13: him down.
Speaker 1: Of course, on Harvard, they sued the Trump administration a
Speaker 1: few days ago trying to get back the billions of
Speaker 1: dollars the taxpayer send to Harvard. I think it's some
Speaker 1: working schlip in a factory. I think it's someone selling
Speaker 1: through their car. I think about Americans working, hard, working,
Speaker 1: smart sending their tax dollars to Washington, and then Washington
Speaker 1: turns around and sends billions of dollars to Harvard that
Speaker 1: has a fifty three billion dollar endowment, which would like
Speaker 1: to savings account. A couple of years ago, the US
Speaker 1: Supreme Court ruled that Harvard practices race discrimination, which is
Speaker 1: a terrible label to be put on someone. Harvard and
Speaker 1: their administration is extremely antisemitic. Jews and Harvard are marginalized,
Speaker 1: treated like crap, can't get to classes, yelling and screaming.
Speaker 1: Same with Columbia. And so when I look at the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party, Christopher Ruddy of Newsmax dates ago in the South,
Speaker 1: they used discrimination against black folks. Couldn't go to school,
Speaker 1: couldn't go and luncheonets, couldn't go in the restaurants, couldn't
Speaker 1: be an office, couldn't vote. The same Democratic Party half
Speaker 1: century later has now been found a vicious race discrimination
Speaker 1: against Asians and admissions by the United States Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: plus virulent, ugly anti semitism. Is that the way the
Speaker 1: mainstream media pictures this dispute between Harvard and Washington.
Speaker 13: Well, I would never think in the country I grew
Speaker 13: up in, the Jews would be in jeopardy of walking
Speaker 13: across the campus or wearing a Yamica. You could be
Speaker 13: harmed in the city of New York, in major cities
Speaker 13: Los Angeles. And it's now true it's dangerous to be
Speaker 13: Jewish and you're threatened. And now institutions know that, we
Speaker 13: know these bad things happen, right, But the idea that
Speaker 13: Columbia and Harvard are looking the other way at this
Speaker 13: anti semitism, had threats of violence. This is frightening and
Speaker 13: I think it's the sign of you know, how woke
Speaker 13: the left has come and during the biding years, you know,
Speaker 13: like you, and we're seeing it with the deportations. These
Speaker 13: gang members are here and the Democrats are supporting the
Speaker 13: gang members who are closing us harm.
Speaker 1: I want to stand with the wife beating human traffickers
Speaker 1: of MS thirteen that tattoos MS thirteen and the knuckles.
Speaker 1: That's the group the Democratic Party along with the race
Speaker 1: discriminators at Harvard, and they're laying down with those individuals.
Speaker 1: That's pretty sick.
Speaker 13: Well, you were talking about the media and how they
Speaker 13: lied in line, I came up with a new phrase.
Speaker 13: They lied and they died. You know, the media is
Speaker 13: the old media is dying and they lied through their teeth.
Speaker 13: During the twenty election, ninety percent of the press reports
Speaker 13: about President Trump are negative. Eighty percent of the press
Speaker 13: reports on Harris were positive. That was in a study.
Speaker 13: These are people disconnected to America. They and I always
Speaker 13: say to people like I think Newsmax. I'm probably the
Speaker 13: only CEO of a network that believes it's two genders,
Speaker 13: male and female. You going, no, you left, but you
Speaker 13: go into major ABC CBS, are there two genders. I
Speaker 13: don't think they're going to give you an answer if anything,
Speaker 13: you know, and these are people untethered. I think there's
Speaker 13: a danger.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 13: Sultanisan said that about the Soviet Union when the when
Speaker 13: the Soviets came in and untethered themselves to reality and
Speaker 13: the truth, then anything was possible, and we ended up
Speaker 13: with the Gulags. And that's what I'm fearful of. Fear
Speaker 13: like the left is so insane and the AOCS and
Speaker 13: Bernie Sanders obviously seems a little saner than some of
Speaker 13: the others. I mean, And that's how I'm that's saying
Speaker 13: a lot, like, you know, we're really walking and dangerous thing.
Speaker 13: In Newsmax, we've been rising. Our ratings are up fifty percent.
Speaker 13: We had thirty four million people tune into Newsmax last quarter.
Speaker 13: Ruder said we were one of the top twelve news
Speaker 13: brands in the United States.
Speaker 3: And we just started.
Speaker 13: We didn't have much. We just have the support of
Speaker 13: people like you and your listeners and our viewers. We
Speaker 13: don't have big corporations behind us, no, But it's the
Speaker 13: people are voting with their remote controls, their dials, their buttons,
Speaker 13: their downloads, and say no more.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why you say media lied and media died. Exactly.
Speaker 1: I couldn't name the anchors except David Muir of the
Speaker 1: Nightly News, is anymore Lestro Holtz gone, CBS is in
Speaker 1: a major shake up, the layoffs happening, the Washington Post
Speaker 1: losing one hundred million dollars a year, et cetera. Lastly,
Speaker 1: about Iran, of course I hoped as an Iranian deal.
Speaker 1: Of course, I hope that the MOO laws that controlled
Speaker 1: Tehran and make miserable their own people come to reality
Speaker 1: and say we can't have nuclear weapons and missiles to
Speaker 1: deliver them, because given that opportunity, it is in their Quran,
Speaker 1: it's in their basic beliefs. They will kill Jews. The
Speaker 1: six million in Israel will be obliterated. And so, in
Speaker 1: a sense, I hope they come to reality and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, come into our facilities. Let Americans determine,
Speaker 1: the Europeans determine where our centrifuges are. We want We're
Speaker 1: not going to do it ourselves who want the world
Speaker 1: to come in. We're done with this. We're not going
Speaker 1: to spend our money on arms and weapons to kill
Speaker 1: Jews and Christians all over the world, including American soldiers
Speaker 1: in Iraq and Syria. We're not going to do that anymore.
Speaker 1: We're going to change. If that happens, I'd be in
Speaker 1: a state of shock and disbelief. I think the game's
Speaker 1: going to be to buy some more time, to get
Speaker 1: more missile technology, to get it better, maybe bought from
Speaker 1: North Korea or by Russia, and to weaponize these missiles
Speaker 1: and obliterate Israel if necessary. Do you have any hope
Speaker 1: that these talks being conducted now will bear fruit, that
Speaker 1: Iran will see the light or must Iran be taken
Speaker 1: down militarily.
Speaker 13: I'm not very hopeful about Iran. I think it's a
Speaker 13: rogue nation. Look what it's been doing in recent years.
Speaker 13: It got money, as President Trump said, it funded has
Speaker 13: blah the October seventh around Stringer, Prince roll Over, that
Speaker 13: murderous thing. It has Ballad, and then you have the Hooties. Yeah,
Speaker 13: the ice to see I have all these groups that
Speaker 13: are always backed by the Iranians. I don't think you
Speaker 13: can really do a deal. You can't trust them. They've
Speaker 13: been working on this bomb for thirty years. They may
Speaker 13: even have some nuclear warheads by now, for all we know.
Speaker 13: I think it's a moment in time between President Trump
Speaker 13: and Benjamin Nintan Yahoo. Then we have an opportunity to
Speaker 13: take down the nuclear facilities. I think we should do it.
Speaker 13: I don't think we should delay it, and I think
Speaker 13: if we don't, you know, the audience have made clear
Speaker 13: Israel is not the main enemy. They have said repeatedly,
Speaker 13: the great Satan is the United States.
Speaker 1: I've always believed that they.
Speaker 13: Had a bomb and condetonated somewhere in the world, they
Speaker 13: would do it in the United States first, not in Israel.
Speaker 13: And I just I just think that they've already proven
Speaker 13: there beyond redemption and you have a mad dog, you
Speaker 13: put it down, right, I think it's.
Speaker 3: Time for putting it down.
Speaker 1: Not just Iran. It's Hezbla, Hamasa Hoodi's Boko Haram, El Qaeda, Taliban.
Speaker 1: They're all funded directly or indirectly. The head of the
Speaker 1: snake is Iran until Iran, and I have empathy and
Speaker 1: sympathy for the Iranian people forced to live under their theocracy,
Speaker 1: which is a suicidal death cult that runs Iran right
Speaker 1: now and it can't continue. But uh, once again, Christopher Ruddy,
Speaker 1: you're about the best there is. And uh, I watch
Speaker 1: this website now on a daily basis, of course, I've
Speaker 1: watched it for years. Congratulations on your launch and may
Speaker 1: you continue to have great success. And God bless you
Speaker 1: and God bless America.
Speaker 3: Bill.
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Speaker 13: We're growing like crazy and we'd love to have you
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Speaker 1: The truth will set us free. And Christopher Ruddy, thank
Speaker 1: you very much for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And Christopher, you're a great American and keep preaching the
Speaker 1: truth of the president. Thank you very much.
Speaker 13: Well, I'll only say the truth has set us for you,
Speaker 13: it's already done it.
Speaker 1: The truth has not set some other news organizations down
Speaker 1: to bankruptcy. But that's not the case, all right, Christopher.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I bless you, God, bless America.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: All right, let's continue with more Go Cunningham the Great
Speaker 1: American live with you every Sunday night. All right, Billy
Speaker 1: Cunningham the Great American. Once again, thank you very much
Speaker 1: for listening to this wonderful Sunday night. In the tries day,
Speaker 1: especially I wanted to thank Chris Ruddy, who's news Max,
Speaker 1: to come on talk about his relationship with Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and especially my good friend Steve Molloyd Junk Science dot com.
Speaker 1: And let's face it, there's no question follow the money.
Speaker 1: If you follow them, you'll find the gold. And when
Speaker 1: climate change is involved in eight billion dollars to spend
Speaker 1: every year, guess what. Whether it's colleges, university think tanks,
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party itself or Stacy Abrams, follow the money.
Speaker 1: But following the money you'll find out why the Democrats
Speaker 1: are screealing, screaming like stuck pigs relative to losing the
Speaker 1: source of their income. And of course I also want
Speaker 1: to thank Leland Vinters of a News Nation to come
Speaker 1: on to disclose his autistic diagnosis what this means for him.
Speaker 1: And by the way, this is Wednesday, Night on News Nation,
Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo is going to host, among others Bill O'Reilly
Speaker 1: and stephen A. Smith, and also the President of United
Speaker 1: States Donald Trump under the leadership with Sean Compton to
Speaker 1: talk about the one hundred days and look forward sometime
Speaker 1: in the near future having the President on once again
Speaker 1: with me and you the American people once again very much,
Speaker 1: thanks for listening, and we'll see what happens in the future.
Speaker 1: But the media at some point the truth. The truth
Speaker 1: is generally casually when Siena opens its mouth. Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: the Great American with you on all other great Americans
Speaker 1: every Sunday Night,