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Speaker 2: What's up, Brindos of Welcome into the in This League

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Speaker 3: I just got word from management that we are going

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Speaker 2: Management is allowing this.

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Speaker 2: Folks, we are losing money. We are losing money on

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this deal. If they're throwing the football in that offer

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We are literally losing. If you don't sign up, we're

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league dot com. I cannot believe they are doing this.

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Management is crazy.

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Speaker 3: To Katanas, they're gonna be added to this deal right

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to katanais it stainless Steale right here?

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Speaker 2: Did you ever see that one where they were just

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like it was like nineteen eighty nine cards, or like

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more chicks if you do. If you get this deal

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right now, with these nineteen eighty nine full set cards,

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you are gonna be more handsome than people.

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Speaker 3: The Dell one is the best one ever of those

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where the guys.

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Speaker 2: Well that's where the person's like yeah, porno, right, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well It's extra funny because it was at like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, They're like, what are you gonna use this computer for?

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Speaker 3: Mainly for porno?

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Speaker 2: You know, like okay, well, thank you for calling. He's like,

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Speaker 3: They're like, well, we can't recommend it for that. He's like,

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well I can and I have the porno to prove it,

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and like okay, Jim, and he goes, okay, Porno.

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Speaker 2: Okay it is. That is one of the funniest bits

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of all time. That was my favorite cell all time.

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If if we don't have at least four people that

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sign up because we did that, you guys do not

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respect us. But I know you plenty of you do

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by signing up. Thank you for doing it. Weird asking

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in June mid season baseball, But got a lot of

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stuff going on. Man, I'm going to be dropping on

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Friday the redraft ranks that I've been updating on fantasy pros.

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That'll be like in a sheet. But yeah, the prospects

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of Dynasty bogwins Wook on our football.

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Speaker 3: We got tons of stuff there, So come and hang

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with you boys, show that support.

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Speaker 2: And as a reminder, we also have that shirt that

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you're not supposed to buy on our store. There's a

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link on our Patreon for it, because it's complicated.

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Speaker 3: It's like.

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Speaker 2: It's like itlstore dot creator, dash spring dot com because

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remember we had the old link used to be in

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this league dot fans but some but there was a

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person that bought that and gave it to us, and

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it actually came up and they asked recently. I was like, no,

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I don't worry about it, but like, we didn't buy that,

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Speaker 3: It's just a weird situation. So decided to.

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Speaker 2: Not so that the uurl kind of sucks, but we've

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got that amazing one piece x animex leading off even

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though this isn't leading off of me and Joe. Joe

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totally loves that shirt, but don't go buy it, send

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pictures and put it out online. I don't often recommend

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people spending money for a gag like that, but if

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you do, you will be itl hall of fame by

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wearing that shirt in public and tagging me and Joe

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in it. I can't recommend that more.

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Speaker 3: What was that website? One more time? While I was

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just sorring, oh.

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Speaker 2: Man, so the the url sucks. It's il store dot.

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Speaker 3: T Oh god, what the hell is it?

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Speaker 2: Hold on, let me L seven q R forty nine er.

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It's the it is the dumb It's like il store

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Speaker 3: It's so stupid.

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Speaker 2: I probably do, especially if I'm gonna like make new

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shirts or anything like that in the near future, I

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Speaker 3: View store.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it oh here, it is ilstore dot Creator, dash

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spring dot com. Or if here's the easy thing, if

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you go on Patreon, it's like the pinned thing up

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at the top. You can go and you can just

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click right through and you could pick up that shirt

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and be uh oh wait they're throwing in that show.

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Speaker 3: Know you can do that.

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Speaker 2: They're out there on that end. We got player debates today.

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We are going to be going through three hitters, and

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well three hitter debates, two picture debates.

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Speaker 3: We'll be doing that.

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Speaker 2: We've got two start pictures for the week, as we

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always do, and we've got all the latest news that

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is what is in store for the show today. Bogs.

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You probably missed this earlier in the week, and you

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would have loved it. Because to be fair, I don't

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want to be too picky about like you, you know,

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you do the show sheets on these and you and

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me are pretty collaborative. Joe does the show sheets on

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leading off, but that's more of his thing, you know,

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because he's always done it. Kind of that control. But

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the other day, the day after Pete Crow hit for

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the cycle, they did not make Pete Crow the topic

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the number one topic of the show. They made the

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Dustin May start, which was good, by the way, but

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it wasn't like Misowski's like he gave up and run

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and stuff, and we're in the show and I couldn't

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like I get dustin May. It has been awesome and

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then it devolved and then of course it you know,

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do you know what, can you take a guess where

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Joe went with it?

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Speaker 3: Uh? I don't know that I can.

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Speaker 2: He's like, uh, what time do you get up? What

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time do you get up? He wanted me to get

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Sheef that's what he said on air to do that,

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be before anything else. And not only did Pete Crow

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Armstrong hit for the cycle, which I think a cycle.

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level as a no hitter. But here here's.

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Speaker 3: My my path top is perfect game.

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Speaker 2: Number two is a no hitter. Number three to two

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is like what Miserowski did, like absolutely Berserko start. You know,

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it was nowhere, but it's one hit. I know, it

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there as well, you know, that would be in that's

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like that pool and then everything else. So like special

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insane moments, three to four homers, what Miserowski type of

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fifteen plus strikeout, one hit, you know, insane record breakers,

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no hitters, cycle. I don't know if I said cycle cycles,

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perfect games. Those are the things that I think are

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the tippy top. But also if you weren't aware, as

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I had pointed out there Pek K. Armstrong he had

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jumped to number two in War And I know war

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doesn't mean it's a ton of people, but if you're

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talking about like wins above replacement and like league value stuff,

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he jumped over Yorder Alvarez. At this moment, he's one

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of only two players with a four plus War. He

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has point zero, one away from Bobby Witt Jr. It

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is being understated the year that Pete Armstrong is having.

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So we can talk a little bit more about that.

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I threw a lot at you. I don't know what

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you think about all of that, but I definitely got

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I got slapped.

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Speaker 3: On the hand by mentioning that how could we not

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start with a cycle?

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Speaker 2: Because I think cycles are still like a pretty important thing.

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Speaker 3: Look, your boy started the sheet with a cycle, right,

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Speaker 2: Know that's what I meant to like lead up to this.

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The number one thing you had on here was PCA

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with a cycle, And it made me think of that

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and I was more laughing for you to hear of

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a whole him being like, well, why don't you get

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up at three in the morning and do the show sheet.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, well, why don't you be up

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at three in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Why don't you go after yourself for that?

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Speaker 3: But also my question, I want you still up at

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three am because I am grinding and working, all right,

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because that's what I do every day.

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Speaker 2: Stay up till ten pm?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's your problem? Yeah? Why don't you stay awake

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until all the games are over?

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Speaker 2: I feel bad about saying those because they're right, Like,

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I don't pick on most of the stuff. I really don't,

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because it's like that person's the one that gets up

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and does it.

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Speaker 3: But anybody, anybody who wants to shame me for sleeping

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after eight pm can miss me. I do or eight am.

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I do not care. People have different schedules period, end

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of statement. That's it. That's all you need to know.

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So don't miss me with the I wake up earlier, Okay,

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I say up later.

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Speaker 2: I worked off. I really wasn't worked up.

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Speaker 3: I hate it. I despise it because I've worked nights

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for so long in a quession profession hour and.

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Speaker 2: A half before the show, so I'm still fine with it.

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But it's like it's it's West Coast. Remember, You're like

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I'm West coast baby, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: My favorite part of living in Texas is noon kickoffs.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you got that, But it wasn't about that.

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It was about and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Just more having PCA is having an insane month. Really,

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I don't even know if it's the full season, because no,

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in March April. In March he had two forty one

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and May hit two thirty three. He had three homers,

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four homers, so seven five, yeah, four h six over

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fifteen games. Here in May with eight homers in four swipes.

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The guy has been incredible. He's hitting everything. Has twenty

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six hits in fifteen games. He had twenty four in

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twenty nine games and twenty eight and thirty one games,

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so like the previous two months. But I think this

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is what PCA is. I think he's going to get

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his hits in bunches and then he's going to say

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it and be bad, and then he's going to come

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back up and hit him bunches.

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Speaker 2: So that's part of the discussion right there, is because

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I ask the que because now, because by the way,

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the hilarious part about today's show started with Peter kroh Armstrong.

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You know, it was like today he had him as

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the picture and stuff, and we had an extending conversation

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great and it makes you feel like last year, the

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war feels a little bit more intense. There is something

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that even if he does struggle, like he's just going

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like low batting average, high counting SATs.

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Speaker 3: But one thing did stand out to me.

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Speaker 2: One is, excuse me your throat is he's hitting lefties

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this year and he has made a change in his swing.

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So last year he hit one eighty eight against lefties.

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He is hitting lefties better than righties this year eighty

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six against lefties, which I think that is That's like

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my oneil cruiz thing. It's one thing when you're dominating dudes,

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you're dominating dudes, and you still can't hit lefties. Like

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we poke at that, his babbitt b is and overinflated.

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He's he's dominating lefties. And if you look at bat tracking,

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if you want like a correlation to this, his bat

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speed is up two miles per hour season overseason. His

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fast swing rate, so his ability to get to it

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is way higher. Now that might drop if he goes

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into struggles and stuff, but that means like he is

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really on top of stuff and his stance has changed

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his stance. Oh you know what, actually I realized, I

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think I said that incorrectly today. His stance is a

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completely closed off stance. So I actually said, because his

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MLB average is an eleven degree open stance, he's completely

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closed off his stance. I guess that's actually not a

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concerted thing. So I guess I kind of screwed that up.

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But regardless of the point, he is getting to that

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fast wing quicker. The bat speed is better and that's

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equating to better contact results and he's able to hit lefties.

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The thing that I guess I'm wrong about is that

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I thought he had opened up his stance a little

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bit like O'Neil Cruz, which helped him hit lefties. It's

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just been, you know, his ability to get to the

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ball quicker. He's kind of crushing stuff. Now. He does

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still have strikeout issues, which is a problem, but he's

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pulling the ball, he's walking more, he's got a higher

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his own contact rate. Like I don't know, I feel

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like I feel a little bit more stabilized with Pete Crow.

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His XBA is.

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Speaker 3: Two sixty two if you've got a two sixty.

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Speaker 2: Pace, And he wasn't the best player in baseball and

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then the worst player in baseball, and he just kind

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of like rides the waves a little bit more. People

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are gonna have such a better representation of him. People

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aren't gonna slam him. We're not gonna want to slam him.

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He doesn't have those big extremes. And I kind of

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think that's my whole point of this is I kind

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of think we're there, even with someone who yeah, yeah,

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I was one of the most negative about Pete Crow

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in the off season, but now I think we're there.

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And I had asked the question to Joe Dynasty, would

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you rather have Pete Crow or Ronald Kunya? And he hesitated.

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Now I'm like, that's how I feel too, But he

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said exactly what I was hoping he would say, because

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I agree with this. We got to see the end

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of the season. We got to see him do this

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for the season, we got to see we don't think

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he needs to be a two seventies. I'd love him

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to be a two seventy six hitter. Then I don't

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even think it's a question. Maybe he's like a two

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sixty guy and he doesn't fall off for three months.

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I think that kind of answers that question of like,

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you know what, maybe he is somebody without the injury

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issues and he's got all this skill set that you

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would want over Acuna. It's still tall order. But I

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don't know what you think about that. I think we

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just need more of him doing this before we can

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make that decision. Though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you on both fronts, right, Like,

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because right now he's pacing to have, you know, pretty

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much the same counting stats with a better batting average

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from last season, which is exactly what you want. You

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want growth in batting average because there's not a lot

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of room for growth on thirty one homers and thirty

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five stolen bases. You know, maybe a little more in

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the runs in RBI department you can break one hundred,

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but he's over ninety in both those last year. You

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just want it better than a two forty seven average,

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right and he's hitting two seventy six right now. You

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mentioned the improvements against lefties, and our goal, what our

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goal should be for PCA is to just make him

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more consistent and hitting lefties is going to make him

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more consistent. I still think he's going to have these

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surges where he's unstoppable, but if the rest can be

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a little bit better and it's not surge and sink

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and it's just surge and then steady, that's what we

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want from PCA. So I think it's fair. I think

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it's fair to answer this question either way right now,

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because you're also saving four years on PC's twenty four

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years old and Acuna is twenty eight, so there's just

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a lot more runway for each twenty his career.

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Speaker 2: You want to feel the consistency of him, and you

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know we might not be there yet and some of

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these things might median out, but it's like, you see

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him hitting the ball harder fifty one point nine percent

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hard hit rate, that's full ten percentile points higher. You

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see him hitting lefties, and you're like, those are big

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changes that you needed to make. He's consistently hitting to

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fifty or higher against fastball breaking or off speed, like,

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those are things that you want for him.

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Speaker 3: To be able to tap into this.

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Speaker 2: So if you can have a little bit less variance,

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it's going to make him like a higher and elite

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fantasy player, and I just kind of think we're in

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that space.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna say PCA, Yeah, I think I

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want him over Acunya because of the injury stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm leaning I could definitely I could see this being

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a straight up trade of someone that's just like, you know,

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four years, maybe a slight little lean to Acunya if

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this contracts involved.

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Speaker 3: If it was like forty five.

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Speaker 2: Dollars Acuoni or thirty dollars Pete Crow, I'll take Pete Crow.

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If it was one of those where it was like,

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you know, forty five dollars Acunion, twenty dollars peak Crow,

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then it's probably it's like so easily peak Crow like

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that type of stuff if you're in contract. So, I

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don't know. I think it's a really interesting, interesting conversation,

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and it's been it's been fun all the I'm giving

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Joe crap about that, but we had lots of good

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conversations about it and bust balls both ways. But then

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it was full circle because it was like I went

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on this kind of ti ratee about him when he

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had the cycle when we weren't talking about it, and

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then today he was like the topic of conversation and

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then we bring that up speaking of Acunya.

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Speaker 3: By the way, quote a long way.

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Speaker 2: To go before returning. According to Walt Weiss, that is

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about the worst news outside of being out for the season,

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because the long wait is just so ambiguous, like there's

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no time.

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Speaker 3: What's the timetable?

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Speaker 2: We don't know. I think he missed three weeks with

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the last hamstring injury. If they're saying he's a long

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ways away, I assume, I'm I'm I'm thinking August. This

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feels August to me. Maybe it's right after the maybe

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the All Star Game.

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Speaker 3: We'll save us a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And it's right after that, but it is late late

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July to early August. I think he's coming back. And

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that's pretty brutal. It's a brutal blow to fantasy owners

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for sure.

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Speaker 3: That sucks. And it's that, you know, he had the crazy,

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insane season and then it has been kind of, you know,

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stuck in limbo with these injuries. Forty nine games, twenty four,

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ninety five last year, fifty three this year. That's why

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I think I'm gonna take PCA. You know, even dude,

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I just he's not getting back there, is he getting

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back to one forty. He's hit one fifty twice in

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his career. Oh you mean games played? Games played? Yeah, yeah,

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twenty nineteen he played one fifty six, he played one

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fifty nine, and twenty twenty three. His next highest is

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one nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Hill.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is why I did this.

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Speaker 2: Comp took a Kunya a couple of weeks ago, and

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everyone was like they did you know that meme where

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they're like hmm, yeah, like that where I said, is

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Acunya the next Buxton? In that like Buxton had you know,

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these amazing years and then it was like just dealt

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with like multiple years of injuries. And this is the

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exacting conversation where like box and I wasn't played one

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hundred and noted all and this song and then all

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of a sudden he just does, Yeah, Kuna has one

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hundred percent gonna have a run you know of like

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a couple of seasons where things will kind of start

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to click and stuff like that. But like when is

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that going to happen? Maybe I won't, by the way,

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but like when is that going to happen? It's in

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question for us to have the conversation is what makes

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it stupid? And annoying, and it could make people turn

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in that direction. The problem with making that move from

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Acunya to Pete kro Armstrong is it's like I don't

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want to say this, you know, Like how like a

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car depreciates as soon as you take it off the lot,

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But like, let's say, what what is going to depreciate quicker,

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A a hamstring, a range rover or a tesla, Like

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you're going to saying like a tesla is not. And

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what I'm getting at here is like Pete Crow is awesome.

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And that was probably a poor analogy and there's probably

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better ones, but like what.

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Speaker 3: I'm getting to say is it about the battery. I'm

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not sure, But.

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Speaker 2: Like when Pete Crow is awesome, he's awesome. When Pete

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Crow is down, pet Crow's value plummets to nothing, but

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Cunya never really plummets to nothing. That's what I'm like.

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He always, yeah, he's a safer, he's gold, you know,

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and Pete Crow is crypto his bitcoin. But but Pa

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is going to be bad for more games than Acunia

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plays total, and that all of those things are in play.

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I'm just saying when Pete Crow goes bad, when he

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breaks bad people are like, I don't want any part

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of him. This is garbage, dead it up, But like

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that just doesn't happen. A Coudia's value just rarely dips down.

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So to get off of Pete Crow now or to

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get off of Ronald A Coudi now in favor of

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Pete Crow maybe leaves off the table safety that Acuna

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could still provide. So it's it's an interesting one. I

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want to get this out of the way. Do you

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have any feelings on the Homer in Derby ditching the clock.

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I kind of think it's stupid and like, why why

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is it every year they got.

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Speaker 3: To change something. I don't mean that quit changing the

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damn thing.

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Speaker 2: Does that make the game better to you, though you're

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more of a connoisseur of Homer and Derby.

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Speaker 3: I I don't think it does. I just want one

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consistent thing. I don't want to keep changing it. You

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don't think you're going to clock. Either keep the clock

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or ditch it, but don't keep changing it every damn year.

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I think that's the thing. I like the you know,

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the tournament style I think is fine.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was okay with the clock, But I

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also understand that it you know, it really wears those

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guys out, so it makes things weird because sometimes you

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have really old guys throwing and they can't go as fast.

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So I don't know, like, just keep it the same,

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just figure out what works best and quit messing with it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the exact same take as me then,

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because I'm just like, why are we changing these Let's

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keep it to say, like I don't need every single

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year there's some new thing. It's like now it's four

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twenty five for bonus, and here's what.

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Speaker 3: I just think it makes it better if you keep

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it the same because you can compare home run derbyes

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from year to year too. It's different. It's so different

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without the clock. So I just find whatever works best

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and just to sight on that and lock it in

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for twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: I legit. Think I said this in leading off today.

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I think they change it every year so there's something.

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Speaker 3: To talk about.

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Speaker 2: So people talk about it a month before, like they

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make a new thing and they're just like, hey, what

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do you think now, because like they're going to do

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this and people are gonna kind of hate it and

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they're going to next year be like ah, we decided

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to go back to the just make the prize absurd

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so that all the home run hitters want to be

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in it. That I think that's the biggest change you

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00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,799
can make to the home run Derby to make it

475
00:22:04,799 --> 00:22:06,440
the best that it could possibly be.

476
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: The prize like ten million dollars.

477
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 2: Wasn't that something we did with the dunk contest? Didn't

478
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,880
they change that to like five million or something?

479
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 3: Or that makes these guys that never play and come

480
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,799
off the bench to do weird dunks. Though, like even

481
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,519
if they did in that, some of those the basketball

482
00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:24,079
players are making so much money anyway.

483
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: I just think that if you know, never mind it

484
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,680
is one hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, why would they give it?

485
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,119
Do they?

486
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 3: They say, like something wrong? Yeah this is this is

487
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,319
one hundred thousand dollars is a lot of money. Like

488
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:40,079
that's great, but let's for baseball players. Make it enormous

489
00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:42,599
so that we get the biggest home so that gord

490
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,079
On is in it every year, you.

491
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,039
Speaker 2: Know, I complete this is a really interesting little thing.

492
00:22:46,079 --> 00:22:47,880
By the way, I didn't even know this, but next

493
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,039
year the All Star Game is here in Phoenix, And

494
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,960
did you know that Matte is whoever the Phoenix Suns owners. Yeah,

495
00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:01,599
he's personally funding a million dollar himself to the winners

496
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,039
of the slam dunk and three point contest, matching another

497
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,240
million also for charity. That's actually super interesting. But I

498
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,279
could not agree with you more. The Home Run Derby

499
00:23:11,279 --> 00:23:15,160
should be like five million dollars brought to you by

500
00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:18,480
Capital One, and every ball can have Capital One on it,

501
00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:21,400
and they pay the money. I mean, these teams, you know,

502
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,480
these are these companies pay for ten million dollars for

503
00:23:24,519 --> 00:23:26,839
a thirty second ad during the Super Bowl. You're telling

504
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,000
me you can't get five million, maybe call it ten

505
00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:33,480
million dollars, ten million dollars out of a team or

506
00:23:33,839 --> 00:23:37,759
an organization to have full sponsorship rights, they pay five million. There,

507
00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:39,920
they get five million. They put it on the balls instead.

508
00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 3: I want it. I want it to be so many

509
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,480
people want into the Home Run Derby that individual teams

510
00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:47,839
have to do their own home run Derby to see

511
00:23:47,839 --> 00:23:52,559
who represents them. That's what I want, right, Yeah, I mean,

512
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,799
let let's let's do that and make it so the

513
00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:56,799
best players are in here.

514
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: Oh and imagine the story too of like one sod

515
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,839
with his seven hundred million versus like a Connor Griffin

516
00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:05,960
who's making like, you know, four hundred thousand dollars or something.

517
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,039
Not that any of them are poor, but it's like

518
00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:11,000
getting guys to be in there that are making you know,

519
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,359
one tenth of that, Like I love love that, and

520
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,799
I don't. And I think even those those bigger guys too,

521
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,519
like no one's gonna scoff off. Just make sure you

522
00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:22,119
never do it in California, so they take their extra packs.

523
00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:25,359
And yeah, I know, I completely agree with that.

524
00:24:25,519 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: All of these Derby's also only allowed in Florida from

525
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,440
now on, just so everybody knows. Yeah, honestly though, if

526
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,680
they want so many places.

527
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: It's a very different conversation, by the way, well just

528
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:41,559
because like Baseball, they just did their next I'm gonna

529
00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:43,079
talk about on a prospect one, but they did their

530
00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:45,119
next like, here's what's another thing we want in the

531
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,680
labor agreement, And everybody has come away with the sense

532
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,839
that there's not one thing Baseball is doing that doesn't

533
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:55,440
have to do with cutting costs. They're acting like they

534
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,440
are just dirt poor, and it's it's embarrassing and it's stupid,

535
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,920
and everything is about cutting costs. But all of these

536
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,240
leagues are like trying to They have meetings and boards

537
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:07,240
and a bunch of losers sitting around a table. How

538
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,839
can we make this better? There is only one thing

539
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,440
that will make it better and more competitive, and it

540
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,559
is money.

541
00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 3: Cream.

542
00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:18,519
Speaker 2: Cash rules everything around me. Cream, get the money, dollar

543
00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:22,440
dollar bills, y'all. Put a stupid prize on the All

544
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,359
Star Games, on your home run derbies, on the Pro Bowl.

545
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,680
Get stupid prizes that people don't want to but not

546
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,599
And I say this, one hundred thousand dollars is what

547
00:25:32,759 --> 00:25:35,519
people are praying to make in a year. But like,

548
00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:38,599
put something that these athletes, you know, that they really

549
00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:40,559
want to fight for. I completely agree. Then you're going

550
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:43,279
to get these dudes taking their time out. Seriously, they're

551
00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:45,559
not having a great time. I want them to be

552
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,559
like I want them to be sweating.

553
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,039
Speaker 3: If Otani and so to decide that, you know, look,

554
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,960
I already have enough money. Let me let somebody else

555
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,079
go to the home run derby and win this ten

556
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,519
million dollars. Then fine. Or if you make so much

557
00:25:58,519 --> 00:26:01,960
money and you don't care about it, at least participate

558
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:04,400
and if you win, donate the money to charity. You

559
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,720
can write that off anyway, So you know, just figure

560
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,920
out a way to get the best home run hitters

561
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,240
in the home run Derby is my main concern.

562
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,319
Speaker 2: It's not these dumb ass little stupid like no no

563
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,839
clock and it's just like I don't care.

564
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,559
Speaker 3: Time to start, quit being polite and start getting real

565
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,000
the real home run derby. This time it counts.

566
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: How about the home run Derby champion gets to pick

567
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,880
if the AL or NL is the home in the world.

568
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,079
Speaker 3: Shit, how about how about the home run derby winn

569
00:26:30,079 --> 00:26:33,240
it gets to choose which pictures piggyback in their rotation.

570
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:36,799
Speaker 2: How about yeah, yeah, so the Mariners, how you didn't

571
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:38,799
even know about this before the show. I'm not surprised

572
00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:42,559
you missed this. But the report came out that the Mariners,

573
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,680
as a team the pictures, unanimously have decided that they

574
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,039
are going to undergo a full piggyback rotation up until

575
00:26:52,079 --> 00:26:56,240
the All Star break. So I believe it lacks clarity,

576
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,279
But how it reads on paper is that every single

577
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:07,200
picture will experience a piggy backer, and I believe every

578
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,400
single picture would be the piggy back. That's how I

579
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,799
read that. So every picture would be the guy that starts,

580
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:16,119
the game goes five, and then another guy would come in,

581
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,319
and then there would be one turn where that same picture,

582
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,920
let's say use Logan Gilbert would be the guy that

583
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,240
comes in in the fifth or sixth inning to replace

584
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,680
immensely stupid, horrible for fantasy. Maybe it's good for real baseball.

585
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,720
It will theoretically untax some of your bullpen. But if

586
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,000
they kind of keep with this, you would in theory

587
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,799
need more pictures that are closer to starters. And this

588
00:27:41,839 --> 00:27:45,480
is why if they are to do this, it's brought

589
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:47,640
up a lot of conversation about guys like Rian Sloan

590
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,759
and Kita Anderson coming up, because you would need probably

591
00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,920
somewhere between two and four pitchers that could go deep

592
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,599
into games if they are making a full commitment to this.

593
00:27:57,079 --> 00:28:00,200
The lack of clarity really screws this up. But you

594
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,079
can right off the gate, right out the gates, you

595
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:08,160
understand the ramifications. A quality start leagues would be really hampered,

596
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,440
I would suppose, because this is obviously going to be

597
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,640
to like limit innings pitched and stuff like that, so

598
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,359
that's in theory would hurt that it could hurt the

599
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,279
other picture not being available for wins for a week.

600
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,559
I guess two start pitchers could maybe be more affected.

601
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:26,599
It hurts strikeouts. If a guy gets hit up a

602
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,680
little bit, that's another inning or less. They would have

603
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,599
to like bring down their ratios, or I guess it

604
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,960
could work vice versa. It's just a really bad, stupid

605
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,640
situation that I also hate reacting to because I don't

606
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,839
feel like we have enough information. But my reaction was

607
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,200
to drop all of those starters just a spot or

608
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:46,960
two around the pictures that they were, because, like, I

609
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:49,519
have to assume they're all going to be negatively affected

610
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,119
to some degree. So I don't love I really really

611
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:56,039
don't like the situation. I'm hopeful the whole, like they've

612
00:28:56,039 --> 00:28:58,880
agreed to it, is that it ends after the All

613
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,200
Star break, but I don't know, man, Like I think

614
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,279
there's a possibility that maybe what they do is they

615
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:06,480
do this, they experiment with it, and then after the.

616
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,319
Speaker 3: All Star break they just say, well, guess what.

617
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: Luis Castillo, Ryan Sloan and Kate Anderson, you are now

618
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,359
the new piggybackers, and we are gonna three times a week,

619
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,920
you know, attach one of these guys to starters and

620
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:20,079
rotate them before we go to the bullpens and it

621
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:22,880
just it messes. I mean, cool to Kate Anderson gets

622
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,839
some stats, but I think it just kind of messes

623
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,279
with everybody, and it's it's it is less than ideal.

624
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it, I'll say that. And maybe

625
00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:34,039
I'm just being you know, too much of an old

626
00:29:34,079 --> 00:29:38,200
man here and not really buying into something new and

627
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:41,039
you know, being a fantasy there that hates that some

628
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:43,759
of my guys are gonna lose value because of this.

629
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,039
So not my favorite move. I also don't I don't

630
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:52,119
think it can last beyond the you know, the break.

631
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:54,680
I understand why they're doing it, but there you're a

632
00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:57,799
game and a half in first place. Isn't this something

633
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,880
like didn't the Astros do this like ten or fifteen

634
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,440
years ago in the minors throughout every level? Didn't they

635
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,319
do piggybacking for like, I don't three months. I just

636
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:09,039
don't feel like it was just not worth it.

637
00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:13,079
Speaker 2: Maybe I felt like maybe it was that was like

638
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,799
more openers because the openers are being toyed around, But

639
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:17,519
maybe you're right. I don't. I don't know if it

640
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:20,920
was to that degree, but it's it's really drastic and

641
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:23,160
it feels like it's coming off of the heels of

642
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,599
like Bryce Miller and Luis Castillo both said they didn't

643
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,440
like it, and the organization clearly for whatever it is,

644
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:34,359
whether they want to limit their pitchers innings, whether they're

645
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,319
worried about their bullpen, I really can't say to what

646
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,519
They have too many guys to what degree it is,

647
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:42,079
but they've come to this decision that this helps their

648
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,519
organization and they you do have to trust the pitching

649
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:47,079
factory of it, but I just don't know. I don't

650
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:48,920
know where the end of this is, and I would

651
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,279
love clarity, and it's not for them. They don't owe

652
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:54,359
us clarity or anything like that, but we have to

653
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,400
react off of what we know and for face value.

654
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,640
To me, it as seems like seems like every guy

655
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,079
will get a start is going to struggle to get

656
00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:05,799
to six ever, and then every starter is going to

657
00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:08,880
be pushed into the back half role where they're likely

658
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,759
maybe they get to save or something like that. It's

659
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:13,359
just it's so messy and weird, and if it's if

660
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:16,599
it can, if it was the entire season, I probably

661
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,000
would drop these guys a little bit more. But but

662
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:21,480
we don't know, will they will they say all of

663
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:23,880
a sudden, well, hey, Logan's just rocking, we're gonna let

664
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,960
him go seven and then we'll bring in Luis Castill

665
00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:28,359
for the last three. Okay, then that's a little bit different.

666
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:30,480
I just we don't have the clarity of those things,

667
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:31,880
and that's what makes it dumb.

668
00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:35,519
Speaker 3: I just looked it up in Google's AI thing said

669
00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:38,480
that it was in twenty thirteen and twenty fourteen that

670
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:41,200
the Ashtros did this in double A and triple A,

671
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,119
so where they would piggyback the stars. But the main

672
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:48,200
reason they were doing it it was to prevent arm

673
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:51,680
fatigue for their upcoming big prospects. That's when they had

674
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,160
a lot of big prospects down there, because they were

675
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,400
real bad. So, uh, they phased.

676
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,759
Speaker 2: It out after Christian Javier got called up in like

677
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,839
nineteen completely, but they started phasing it out after twenty fourteen.

678
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,279
So maybe, yeah, so, but but it's only really been

679
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:10,839
used for, you know, to prevent arm fatigue. So so

680
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:12,720
we're gonna see, we're gonna see what it looks like.

681
00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,519
And I told Joe, I said, here's the one thing.

682
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:20,039
You better hope it all doesn't work't work exactly exactly

683
00:32:20,039 --> 00:32:22,400
where is going. You better pray to God this doesn't work,

684
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,039
and then next year it's two other teams that do this.

685
00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:26,640
Maybe not every team is going to do it to

686
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,440
this degree.

687
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: And start getting holds heavy in some of these leagues.

688
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: If this, dude, you play in a quality starts league,

689
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,359
you probably got to change rules.

690
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,799
Speaker 3: How I just switch it to holds?

691
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,039
Speaker 2: Maybe?

692
00:32:38,279 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, yeah, I mean wins.

693
00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:41,799
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if a guy still goes five, they

694
00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:44,200
still could be, you know, in line for the win.

695
00:32:44,359 --> 00:32:47,759
But quality starts leagues are kind of destroyed. Yeah, holds again.

696
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,880
Might I think if this does work with wins and holds,

697
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,480
would that be a hilarious stat if people did that together.

698
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,599
Speaker 3: You could do wins and holds together. But I would

699
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:01,160
think just adding holds would not own make those back

700
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,200
half starters worth more, but also middle relievers for the

701
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,480
teams that aren't doing it, so it could open up

702
00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:11,599
just more value. But I don't, you know, I'm old man,

703
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,400
yields a cloud. I'm used to what I'm used to.

704
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,039
I don't like it.

705
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: It looks yeah, well yeah I don't. I don't want

706
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,200
to do it.

707
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: Well, Also, like don't like change.

708
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: You don't like dealing with these three back systems in

709
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,119
the NFL, And it's like, I don't want to start

710
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:26,440
dealing with like seven to eight pictures in a rotation

711
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,400
that are going to like not be able to accumulate

712
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,000
some stats on some weeks. And it's just it's bad.

713
00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: Did you see I couldn't. I can't remember who the

714
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:36,000
old player was. I think it was Ted Williams. But

715
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:39,160
it's like James, how young is James?

716
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,799
Speaker 2: James Wood's like twenty four twenty three.

717
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: Matters the same amount of pitches of pictures in his

718
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:49,640
career that Ted Williams faced about his entire career.

719
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, in two seasons he has faced the amount of pictures,

720
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,519
which I mean they.

721
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: Play more teams, but also those pictures just they like

722
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:00,240
if you're starting, you're going nine. That's just it. Here

723
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:00,559
you go.

724
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,759
Speaker 2: It's part of the argument that kind of dies on

725
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,839
when the people just want to be like, there's just

726
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,519
nothing that beats this guy in this guy and it's like, well, yeah,

727
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:11,639
he faced like, you know, thirty different pitchers over like

728
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:15,360
five years, threw probably eighty one, you know, and.

729
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 3: I mean you can miss me with that eighty one nonsense.

730
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,719
But yeah, they they got to face a lot of

731
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,639
easier pictures and it wasn't as tough. They didn't have

732
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:25,760
as much travel, they didn't face as many And if

733
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,760
you players who.

734
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: Just got off the line working, you know, at the sawmill,

735
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,280
and then he goes in and throws you know, seventy

736
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,400
four you know, for one hundred and twenty five pitches,

737
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,000
and these guys get thirty hits and one goes five

738
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:40,920
hundred feet Like, yeah, I mean nothing should count before

739
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,360
the league was integrated. So whatever, No, no, I agree

740
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,000
with that. Agree with that, all right, all right, some

741
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,480
more relevant baseball stuff. Those are kind of like topical

742
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,079
conversation things that are floating around. Good Lord, really sow

743
00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:54,559
long we were going, but we had a lot there.

744
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,079
The giants are listening on players. But I have had

745
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:01,760
a conversation about this. It doesn't matter bugs. I'm gonna

746
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,280
throw this out to you.

747
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've looked contract right.

748
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:08,119
Speaker 2: They can't trade any of them. Matt Chapman was like,

749
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,679
everyone's like, oh, this is the most likely.

750
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,119
Speaker 3: Well guess what.

751
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: He's owed twenty five million dollars to twenty thirty one,

752
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,559
so he ain't going anywhere. Domas ain't going anywhere. Dev's

753
00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:18,280
ain't going anywhere. Ain't nobody taking on those contracts there.

754
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,320
It's Lisa Rise and Robbie Ray. Those are the ones

755
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,280
they are gonna trade. So the Giants are listening on

756
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,760
all their players. They're gonna be stuck with those guys.

757
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,519
I just I think they're gonna be in a weird

758
00:35:28,519 --> 00:35:30,280
position where they're gonna want players that are close to

759
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,119
the majors because they can't rebuild. And this is what

760
00:35:32,159 --> 00:35:34,559
happens when you have three or four players that have

761
00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:37,760
a billion dollars, is you are stuck in a no

762
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,800
ability to rebuild. So deal with it. My boy Hunter Green,

763
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:44,320
who I told you I spent a little bit of

764
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,880
time watching him pitch in Complex League on Saturday. This

765
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:52,079
is a weird surprise. He said he was pitching next week.

766
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,159
But I didn't realize he wasn't gonna pitch here because

767
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,280
this was supposed to be tonight. I was thinking about going.

768
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,159
By the way, Green is already sent to Triple A.

769
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,519
They sent up to Louisville. He's added to the roster.

770
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:07,880
I believe he's pitching tonight because he was added. Worst

771
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,679
case it would be tomorrow. But this kind of changes

772
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,400
my brain a little bit. With him, I thought it

773
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,440
would be like little slow ramp up out in ACL

774
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,920
then maybe he moves to like a start in low

775
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,119
A or high A, and then he goes to triple

776
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:22,760
A and has you know, three starts.

777
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: Dude, I don't know, Like, maybe he does have three

778
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,920
or four starses there.

779
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: But if you're already at triple A and he pitched,

780
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:30,840
like I told you, close to fifty pitches last time,

781
00:36:31,039 --> 00:36:32,480
I kind of think he might be like in a

782
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,800
fifty to sixty pitch on this one. Maybe he goes

783
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,559
sixty to seventy five in the next one. I think

784
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:43,480
there's a possibility he has two rehab starts. It's probably not,

785
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:45,639
but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.

786
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:47,480
He has two rehab starts and goes up to the

787
00:36:47,519 --> 00:36:52,880
majors maximum probably three. But Hunter Green's close. Hunter Green

788
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,000
is lining up for like right in the beginning of July,

789
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:59,719
unless they want to slow this stuff and be after

790
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,719
most All Star break. But you're going to be getting

791
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,239
him for post All Star Break.

792
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for how long? I guess is the question.

793
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:10,760
I don't know. I think I think it coming off

794
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,719
of this injury is so important for his future value

795
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,679
because obviously, you know heard at the end of last year,

796
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,559
right when you needed him, was annoying, and then uh,

797
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,239
he missed. He's you know, never thrown a full assortment

798
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,920
of starts. Twenty six was his most last year. Is

799
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:30,280
over one hundred and fifty innings. That's great, but you know,

800
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,800
hopefully he gets back in and is just regular hunter,

801
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,440
green and lasts. I think I think his value for

802
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:42,400
next season is going to depend a lot on if

803
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,119
he makes it through the end of the year healthy

804
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:46,360
coming off of this. If he does, I think it's

805
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,519
gonna be wheels up. He's gonna have high value. It's

806
00:37:48,679 --> 00:37:51,559
be very high chosen picture next year. If he doesn't,

807
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,440
he goes back on the IL, I think he's gonna

808
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,239
get buried a little bit.

809
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that.

810
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 3: It's it's kind of a two outcome thing.

811
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: It's what it is.

812
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 3: But for this year, I feel good. I feel good

813
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,440
about him coming back.

814
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,519
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not sure if I'm trading for anything

815
00:38:05,559 --> 00:38:08,079
like that, But like, I hadn't even thought about this,

816
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:10,199
but imagine that one two combo of Chase Burns and

817
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,199
Hunter Green. It's ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.

818
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: If they only had a bolt, they both got to

819
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:16,199
make it. Like Chase Burns just has to prove that

820
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,320
he can do it over. I don't think he's thrown

821
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,280
much more than one hundred innings in his in any

822
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,480
season in his career. And Hunter Green needs to make

823
00:38:24,519 --> 00:38:26,360
it to the finish line. Yeah, I mean he I

824
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,760
mean he was like super super I mean he got drought.

825
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,079
He was like a year after he got drafted.

826
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,079
Speaker 2: He was in the majors, So yeah, he hadn't done

827
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:34,320
it in the minors, so they got to see how

828
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,639
that worked. Speaking of the reds, Ellie ramping up his rehab.

829
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,719
He started running on Tuesday and it began a reheb

830
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:41,519
assignment tomorrow.

831
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 3: Get the full Triek Scoople from Ellie. It looks like

832
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,199
he's just going to be back real quick.

833
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: It's great, not great, Strider. Strider's moved to the sixty

834
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,159
day il he It is a two month probably plus situation.

835
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,639
I don't feel super great about anything with him, and

836
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,480
I'm not going to read all that, but.

837
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,599
Speaker 3: Come on, Carrasco happy survivor of blood disease is back

838
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:10,400
with the Braves, and he piggybacked last night, so I have.

839
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,039
Speaker 2: No interest in him. Drake Baldwin on the Brave side,

840
00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:15,480
returned from the eel and hit the longest home run

841
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:17,920
of the year on his return for seventy three.

842
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,159
Speaker 3: In the rain, Too crazy Bomb.

843
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,559
Speaker 2: He's a beast man. He just came right out the

844
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:25,280
gates and just dominated. Hunter Brown, also returning from the

845
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,320
il five and two thirds seven strikeouts. Feel very good

846
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,320
about that. That's just like, get him right back to

847
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,000
where he was. Yes, I have no hesitation with him.

848
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:35,760
I think I think there's still has some overall hesitation.

849
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,199
Speaker 3: Like that piggybackers. I'm right back and throwing five and

850
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,840
two thirds. I think Joe had some hesitation with him.

851
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,599
Speaker 2: I don't at all. And then I'm gonna We're not gonna

852
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:46,719
do any of it really here. But I definitely you

853
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,480
want to listen to a conversation about this. Had a

854
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,280
long conversation on leading off today the Thursday episode about

855
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,480
Andrew Painter because I was kind of ready because he

856
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:56,760
got sent down and he has been absolute dog ass

857
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,119
this year.

858
00:39:57,159 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: But I just.

859
00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:02,199
Speaker 2: I firmly believe there's going to be a season in

860
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,400
the next two or three years where Andrew Painter is

861
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,800
going to live up to the hype. That doesn't maybe

862
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,199
necessarily like settle everybody in But like I guess what

863
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:12,480
I'm saying is I don't believe he's washed. He just

864
00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:15,320
it doesn't work this year. But there's a long conversation

865
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,159
about that, and he got sent down after giving up

866
00:40:17,199 --> 00:40:19,920
six earned runs. It's just not good. But I talk

867
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,920
about the stuff, numbers and things you might be interested

868
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,760
in in the injury world. Jose Ramirez had his surgery.

869
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,119
Speaker 3: Is expected five to.

870
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:32,039
Speaker 2: Seven weeks, so that would be like, I mean it's

871
00:40:32,039 --> 00:40:32,760
probably August.

872
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not on fire.

873
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 2: Not great, dude.

874
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: I was so with you, like I just thought that

875
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:42,800
was it's my fault, and I apologize to everyone rostering

876
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,039
Jose Ramirez when I put hard earned American green backs

877
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:49,119
behind him, He's gone.

878
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:53,119
Speaker 2: Hard earned American money. Mikeel Garcia left Tuesday with a

879
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:55,400
hand injury. Did not play on Wednesday. Michael Harris left

880
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,639
Tuesday with a back injury. Also did not play Wednesday.

881
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,840
Did not look at either of the Today looked at

882
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,360
the lineup.

883
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: Michael Harris has been dealing with this back stuff for

884
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,000
a while so.

885
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: Well, and the Braves got postponed today. I don't know

886
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,480
if you notice that. I just noticed that their game

887
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:11,800
was postponed, so that's just an extra day to return.

888
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,480
I'm not sure. Let me look an MLB lineup, so

889
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,039
I want to see if because I feel like Garcia.

890
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,719
How long have you said Garcia has been out for Garcia?

891
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,039
Speaker 3: Well, Garcia has been coming and going in the lineup

892
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:24,599
as well.

893
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,679
Speaker 2: I think he's still going. He's still not in the lineup,

894
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,159
so that's no, that's no point.

895
00:41:29,199 --> 00:41:31,679
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's been frustrating this year.

896
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: Like I think he's still having decent numbers, but he's

897
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:34,960
missed a bunch of games.

898
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: Mikel hasn't he ye, I don't think I roster him anywhere,

899
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,840
so I haven't been beaying super close attention to Mikel.

900
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,599
But uh, it's been it has been here. It's man,

901
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:48,679
it's been a long year. Two sixty six, three five

902
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:53,199
swipes in sixty seven games. Sitting two sixty six like me,

903
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,039
number for fine, but they're not mediocre.

904
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: Randy Roseana went to the ile with a hamstring strain.

905
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,679
I I did a video on Fantasy pros firmly believe

906
00:42:02,679 --> 00:42:04,320
if he is sitting out there. Just don't let Dominic

907
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,840
Canzone sit out there anymore. He is absolutely dominating. Luke

908
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,119
Rayley's kind of banged up too. He's hitting lefties when

909
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:13,440
given the opportunity. I think Canzone's just gonna play every

910
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,880
day and he's been hitting in the middle of the lineup.

911
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,840
So just friends, don't let friends let Dominic can Zone

912
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,400
se on the wire if he's out there. Dania Planciel's

913
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,199
placed on the io with an inflamed elbow.

914
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 3: Not good.

915
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: Jacob Webb, I believe got the save, So that might

916
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,480
be someone you want to speculate.

917
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:32,119
Speaker 3: On about Paul Seawald. Cubbies, don't you want a closer?

918
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: Did you not get the memo? Mike Cason said, Diamondbacks

919
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,079
are buying. They're not sellers. They are buying. They are

920
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:41,960
out there looking for a bat, which we're going to

921
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,039
talk about maybe one of the potential bats they could buy,

922
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:45,519
and how bad first base is.

923
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 3: But they and if they're buying, you can't trade Paul

924
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,800
Seawald because he's literally the only good bullpener. That's my point.

925
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,719
They can't get rid of him.

926
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: Chased the lotter wentto the IOW with a broken rib.

927
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,880
They tore his back to the Iowa with an oblique

928
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,880
strained Good Lord and Edward Aberry left with some hand cramping.

929
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,679
In the Coming Back World, Kyle Rowley back from the IL.

930
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,159
He'd been out since May fourteenth, so about a full

931
00:43:04,199 --> 00:43:07,280
month that oblique strain. Garrett Crochet says he is close

932
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,639
to playing catch. I guess that's a pretty good sign.

933
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,880
Edwin Diaz when not murdering animals chickens, he is throwing bullpens.

934
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,320
That's what he did this week. So it took some

935
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:21,199
time away from killing some chickens. Roman Anthony, I was

936
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:23,320
about to say allegedly, but it's not allegedly, it's not.

937
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:24,119
Speaker 3: It is.

938
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: Roman Anthony, how to follow up MRI. It came back clean,

939
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,519
but he's still not been clear to swing a back.

940
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: What is going on in the Roman Anthony?

941
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: Absolute disaster of a season?

942
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is it really sucks. I mean the worst

943
00:43:41,519 --> 00:43:43,119
part is is I think he's going to have enough

944
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:44,920
time to come back and be good again and get

945
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,880
no discount next year. So just a frustrating year. If

946
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:49,559
you're I don't know an Anthony right now, I don't

947
00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:50,239
know if you will be good.

948
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,159
Speaker 2: This team is going to be big sellers, and I

949
00:43:52,199 --> 00:43:54,440
don't know. I actually think he's going to be a

950
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,559
discount next year, don't. It's not going to come close.

951
00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: We'll see. I think he's got enough time to come back,

952
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:03,039
can still look good and then not be a discount,

953
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:05,639
and he will.

954
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he came back in August and was like Gangbusters,

955
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,440
that's a good point. If he had like two months

956
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,039
of killing it, that'd be great. But he's so inconsistent

957
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:14,920
this year. If he doesn't come back till let's say August,

958
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,159
and then he's just kind of like black again, I

959
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,239
think people are going to turn the opposite direction. But

960
00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:21,679
to your point, what you said was he has enough

961
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,320
time to come back and do it. He does have

962
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,639
enough time if he comes back in August, but we

963
00:44:25,679 --> 00:44:27,440
don't know what the hell's going on with him. Ury

964
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,920
Perez began a rehab assignment. Ryan Helsey was reinstated from

965
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,480
the IL, which is great closure. Roles Yan your Diaz

966
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:36,719
was activated from the IEL, so there's some catcher action.

967
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:42,039
Austin Wells starting a rehab assignment Kotank I think started yesterday,

968
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,679
and Carlo Stanton reinjured his calf blot and then you

969
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,719
get some rehab assignments for pretty much no one that's

970
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,920
fantasy relevant outside of von Grisham, Tyler, Molly, Ronnie Mauricio.

971
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:52,800
Von Grisham has some fantasy relevancy. So a lot of

972
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,320
rehab assignments that are floating out there. All right, let's

973
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,760
take a break, come back. It is player debate time.

974
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,800
We have five player debates, some really fun one. Let's

975
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,719
dig into it right here on itl.

976
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: I swear to God, I'll pistol whip the next guy.

977
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,679
Speaker 1: That says you in this league.

978
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 3: Hey, Barva, what's the name of that restaurant you like?

979
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,119
Of all the Mazurella.

980
00:45:12,679 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: Sticks me in this league?

981
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: Player debates, three hitter debates, two pitcher debates. We'll see

982
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,880
if we get to all of them, if we're quick enough.

983
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:28,280
This very first one, Bogman, I wanted us to do

984
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,679
this one, and I'm dicey about it because one of

985
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,119
these guys is very, very highly named after, and I

986
00:45:35,159 --> 00:45:37,719
think you are going to hear the name and have

987
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:43,400
an immediate response. But hold that immediate response. When we

988
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:48,079
compare Kevin McGonagall to Otto, Lopez doesn't feel in the

989
00:45:48,119 --> 00:45:51,320
same world. Kevin McGonagall. You know the rookie prince that

990
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,079
was promised. He's going to potentially be Rookie of the Year.

991
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:56,559
He's been hitting all season long. He's hitting two eighty

992
00:45:56,639 --> 00:45:59,639
two with six homers, nine stolen bases, forty seven runs,

993
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:04,360
and twenty He has been great. But little did everybody

994
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:11,000
know that Auto Lopez beats McGonagall in four, uh actually three,

995
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,679
three of the five counting stat categories and his neck

996
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,639
and neck on the other two. He beats McGonagall in

997
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,960
RBI with thirty one. He beats McGonagall with thirteen stolen bases.

998
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,719
That's four more, and Otto Lopez is like the league

999
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,880
leader in batting average. He's going for a batting title.

1000
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,679
At three thirty eight, he has four less runs and

1001
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,079
one less homer. Otto Lopez is having a year where

1002
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,360
you're just like huhh and you don't want to buy it,

1003
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,599
and you don't want to believe it.

1004
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:40,519
Speaker 3: But Otto Lopez.

1005
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 2: Looks like he's gonna walk out with like five to

1006
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,440
twelve homers, twenty to twenty five stolen bases, and a

1007
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,239
batting title. This is the better representation of what Roaldo

1008
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,039
Perdomo was last year. McGonagall has a chance to go

1009
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:54,480
anywhere from twelve to fifteen homers and you know, close

1010
00:46:54,519 --> 00:46:57,119
to twenty stolen bases, and if he hits two eighty

1011
00:46:57,159 --> 00:46:58,880
two ninety, he's gonna win a Rookie of the Year.

1012
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,480
So by name value, it's not close. But Auto Lopez

1013
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,760
and McGonagall statistically they are both right there. They're actually

1014
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,760
also by the way, I think nine to ten are

1015
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,960
eight to nine in war, they are literally right next

1016
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,519
to each other. So rest of season, this moment on

1017
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:15,519
who would you rather, Kevin McGonagall or Auto.

1018
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: Lopez, man, I think the answer is probably depending on

1019
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,679
what you want. If you want floor, it's Lopez, But

1020
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,440
I want ceiling, and I think you're just gonna have

1021
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:35,079
more ceiling with mcgonagall's power. I think the lineup is better.

1022
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,440
You know, they're gonna be so close, Like you said,

1023
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,960
they're so close on everything, and Auto Lopez just I mean,

1024
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,119
the batting average is insane. It's you know, in it's

1025
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:49,360
just so good everywhere. It's three forty nine at home,

1026
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,719
it's three twenty one. On the road, it's four fifty

1027
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,800
eight against lefties and still two ninety five against righty's.

1028
00:47:57,119 --> 00:48:00,800
Every month for Auto Lopez three twenty two nine, three

1029
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,239
fifty five. The average is so high up there, so

1030
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,119
I think, But but McGonagall, I just think the power

1031
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,880
is going to be better. I think there's more upside

1032
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,400
from runs and RBI for him as well. So it's

1033
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,920
probably McGonagall slightly. But I don't have like, I don't

1034
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,760
have a good argument against Auto Lopez specifically, if you

1035
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,280
need batting average, if you need batting average, it is

1036
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,000
definitely going to be Auto Lopez, So it depends on

1037
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:33,800
what you need.

1038
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 2: Well also, but when you say what you need, Lopez

1039
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,719
like clearly has the run on batting average, but also

1040
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,920
stolen bases, and you could argue, like the runs like

1041
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,599
that kind of feels like and not.

1042
00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:47,199
Speaker 3: The run because he's always on base.

1043
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, not the Philberto's runs, but like, yeah, you know,

1044
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,559
the he's always on base, hitting at the top of

1045
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:55,599
the lineup feels like he's going to score ninety runs

1046
00:48:55,639 --> 00:48:57,360
if there's no separation of runs.

1047
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,679
Speaker 3: Okay, I do agree with you. I think there's a

1048
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:00,800
separate of power.

1049
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 2: Auto Lopez, you know, doesn't pull the ball, like, he

1050
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,800
doesn't walk a ton, which maybe kind of hurts like

1051
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,559
a little bit of the get on base thing. He

1052
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:12,679
doesn't get the ball in the air a ton like,

1053
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,519
So I have much more of a belief of McGonagall,

1054
00:49:14,519 --> 00:49:16,920
who's a twenty one degree launch angle, has a twenty

1055
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,039
one pulled air percentage. You know, those are the things

1056
00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:22,480
he walks more than he strikes out, Like he's super

1057
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,159
patient at the plate. He hasn't expected batting average it's lower,

1058
00:49:25,199 --> 00:49:28,920
but it still looks like, you know, really good. I

1059
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,119
do feel comfortable that Otto Lopez is going to get

1060
00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:35,119
me the stolen bases and the batting average, but like,

1061
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,719
I'm not sure if the other categories are really locks,

1062
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,880
and I don't know if the stolen base differential is

1063
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,719
something to go crazy about. So like, you know what

1064
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,719
the badding average is the play here, But I'm kind

1065
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,039
of with you on the McGonagall power side, which I'm

1066
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:48,639
gonna flip.

1067
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,679
Speaker 3: I'm gonna flip because I'm looking at this power right now,

1068
00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:56,559
and the ISO for Auto Lopez is not great. It's

1069
00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:59,360
one thirty seven, but that's the highest it's ever been

1070
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,159
in his career, and you hit fifteen homers last year.

1071
00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:05,320
His slugging also is four to seventy three this year.

1072
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,119
It was three sixty eight last year. And both those

1073
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:11,559
number I mean, I sold one forty seven for McGonagall,

1074
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:15,239
so ten points behind. And it's in the slugging for

1075
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:18,760
uh mcgonagall's four twenty nine to four to seventy three

1076
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,119
for Auto Lopez. So I I think I'm gonna flip

1077
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:25,639
to Lopez just slightly. But it is a very very

1078
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:26,440
close either way.

1079
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is like not that you don't know

1080
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,159
that Otto Lopez is like a good valuable player, but

1081
00:50:32,199 --> 00:50:34,039
I think, like when I stare at this, the thing

1082
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:37,719
that's in my mind is I think everybody reacted when

1083
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,400
they heard this as saying, well, Kevin McGonagall, but like

1084
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:43,199
you think it's out of pocket in a redraft league

1085
00:50:43,199 --> 00:50:45,320
that you could trade McGonagall for Lopez and maybe get

1086
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,519
a little bit more, you know, or you know, if

1087
00:50:48,519 --> 00:50:50,639
you're focused on a trade like this would be another way,

1088
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:52,400
if you're really focused on trying to get like the

1089
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,639
McGonagall in a deal and that the owner doesn't want

1090
00:50:54,639 --> 00:50:56,039
to sell them off because it has to be Rookie

1091
00:50:56,039 --> 00:50:56,800
of the Year and da da dah.

1092
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,519
Speaker 3: It's like Otto Lopez might be a really good alternative.

1093
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:03,199
Speaker 2: Now. I do think he'll be tough to get because

1094
00:51:03,199 --> 00:51:05,400
people are gonna see what he has provided from batting

1095
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,159
average and like really struggle wanting to get rid of that.

1096
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,800
The name values are not close, but the players are.

1097
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,840
I think both of these guys are gonna score ninety

1098
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,440
plus runs. I think McGonagall could take the RBI marker,

1099
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,519
and I think he takes the homers. I do wonder

1100
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:21,880
if Otto Lopez comes back down to earth. His XBA

1101
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,599
is two ninety four, his BABB is up a little bit.

1102
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,599
I just do wonder if, like you know, that it

1103
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,679
starts to come back down. Not that it's gonna matter

1104
00:51:31,679 --> 00:51:33,599
if he's like three ten. I guess what I'm getting

1105
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:35,679
at is like, does it come back down more? In

1106
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,400
like a worrisome degree. But I really probably wouldn't even

1107
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,280
get focused on that. He's stealing bases. He's stealing. He's

1108
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,119
got three this month, he'll probably get to four, and

1109
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:48,280
he stole four in April five in May, so that

1110
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,480
seems consistent his power, doesn't. He had three homers in April,

1111
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,679
but he's hit one homer each the last two months,

1112
00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:56,239
so he might struggle to get to ten. So if

1113
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,239
you get like ten twenty five out of him with

1114
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,840
a great batting app average runs and some RBI like

1115
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,440
again like, that's gonna feel like Perdomo. So the answer

1116
00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:06,360
might be what you said out of Lopez. I'm gonna

1117
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:07,440
go Kevin mcgonaga, though.

1118
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:09,599
Speaker 3: But it is I was gonna say, are you coming?

1119
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,519
Speaker 2: It's hype, but it's hyper close. But like I said,

1120
00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:15,480
if if it's a question of I have to pay

1121
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:18,280
more for McGonagall, I don't want to do it like

1122
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,039
I Lopez. He might be a better play to try

1123
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:25,199
to go in trade four in a league, you know,

1124
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,199
because he's just not going to cost as much. All right,

1125
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,599
Number two, I hate this. I know your Bogmann actually

1126
00:52:31,639 --> 00:52:33,159
literally is like, well, how am I supposed to choose?

1127
00:52:33,199 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: And I was like perfect.

1128
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,159
Speaker 2: One wanted to be the Diamondbacks first baseman, but they

1129
00:52:39,159 --> 00:52:41,559
didn't want to sign him. The other, I don't think,

1130
00:52:41,639 --> 00:52:44,960
really wanted to leave the Diamondbacks didn't want to sign him.

1131
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:48,400
The Diamondbacks would be lucky to get both Christian Walker

1132
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:53,039
or Paul Goldschmidt. Christian Walker on the year two forty

1133
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:56,000
six average, he has struggled as of recent eighteen homers,

1134
00:52:56,039 --> 00:52:59,360
fifty two RBI, forty two run Versus Paul Goldschman, who

1135
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,440
is absolutely come on like Gangbusters He's hit a three

1136
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,320
oh one average and looks like he ain't going anywhere

1137
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:10,440
because Jean Carlos missing time. Eleven homers, thirty six RBI,

1138
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:15,000
twenty six run. It's tough to pick that because like

1139
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:18,239
it's one hundred and twenty lessed bats. So I think

1140
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,159
if you paste it more, I think they're pretty close

1141
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:23,519
and running RBI. I saw a stat that blew my

1142
00:53:23,559 --> 00:53:26,079
mind bogs. And this has nothing to necessarily do with

1143
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:29,400
those guys, but there is rumors of Christian Walker that

1144
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,280
I'm in Backs having interest in bringing him back, and

1145
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:31,880
I just want.

1146
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 3: To throw this out.

1147
00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 2: The Diamondbacks combined first base production. I believe the number

1148
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,679
I might be off by a couple but you'll understand

1149
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,360
how why it doesn't matter. Have a combined call it

1150
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,519
five seventy four OPS. I think that's what the number

1151
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:47,719
was of all the first basement they've run out this year.

1152
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,199
That OPS is not only the worst of any first

1153
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:57,079
baseman combos in baseball this year, it's the worst since

1154
00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:00,920
nineteen twenty. No team in over one hundred years has

1155
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,239
had worse first base production, especially from like an OPS standpoint,

1156
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,639
than what they are Arizona Diamonbacks are getting right now,

1157
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,039
So the Diamonbacks would it would behoove them.

1158
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,039
Speaker 3: Even when it was a bunch of losers hitting against

1159
00:54:12,039 --> 00:54:13,360
eighty mile per hour fastball.

1160
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 2: No, yeah, just a bunch of boat workers that were

1161
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,199
just jumping in and just starting to hit baseballs like

1162
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,519
it was better than what the Diamondbacks are doing right now.

1163
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:24,760
The reason it's relevant is because if you want to

1164
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,000
put Christian Walker in that boat of like he's going

1165
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:30,079
to get traded, and if he go, if he goes

1166
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:32,000
back to the Diamondbacks, my god, you know what type

1167
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,840
of hitter he is in that environment. He's really been

1168
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,320
great in the power department. You were totally right about that.

1169
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,280
Average is sunk. But man, if he gets a better destination,

1170
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,000
maybe he has four categories. Goldie. Goldie looks like a

1171
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:47,639
strong four category guy and he's dominating in New York.

1172
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,639
So who would you rather rest of season from this

1173
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,079
moment on Christian Walker or Paul Goldschmid.

1174
00:54:52,519 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 3: It's still going to be Walker. But I'll say this,

1175
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,239
if Goldie were to get moved because the Yankee just

1176
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,159
don't need him and they can get something back for him.

1177
00:55:04,159 --> 00:55:08,280
Oh all right, just listen to me. If he does

1178
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,800
get moved, which I think, you know, just for the

1179
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,480
Yankees to get something they absolutely need because they don't

1180
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:18,519
really need. Goldie's playing well right now, but you're gonna

1181
00:55:18,519 --> 00:55:21,920
get judged back, you know, probably after the All Star

1182
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,400
Bak break. But he's going to be back, and if

1183
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,039
he comes back, and if they're easing him in, they're

1184
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:29,800
probably gonna d h him sometimes, which is gonna push

1185
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,360
Ben Rice to first, and it's going to push Goldie

1186
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,239
to the bench. Right. That's going to keep happening. Walker

1187
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,320
doesn't have that issue. Walker is very streaky. He's on

1188
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,599
the down right now where he was on the up before.

1189
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,920
But he's going to come back and have another big

1190
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,320
month at some point. It's just what Christian Walker has

1191
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,079
done throughout his career. So I'm not surprised that he

1192
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,519
was white hot and now he's kind of cold right now.

1193
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:54,400
So because of playing time, the answer is still Christian Walker.

1194
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:57,920
But if we can or if there's an extended injury

1195
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,960
judgments is longer than we or he comes back and

1196
00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:06,880
they don't outfielder. But Trent Grisham's out right now too right,

1197
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,119
and I know Stanton just had the setback. I don't

1198
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:11,679
know that Stan is coming back at all. I don't

1199
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,199
think you can depend on him, but it's just Walker

1200
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,599
is guaranteed these abs, So it's definitely Walker for me.

1201
00:56:17,679 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: Still, I'm gonna go Goldie. That might be weird for you.

1202
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,880
I mean, Walker has struggled the last two months. It's

1203
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,360
really sunk that batting average where Goldie is hitting four

1204
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,519
hundred against lefties right now, in the two months that

1205
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:35,000
he's got significant playing time. He hit two eighty nine

1206
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,760
in May. He's hitting three eighty two this month. Power

1207
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:43,119
across both months, he's got an eight to ninety oh ps.

1208
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:45,119
Diamondbacks would love that. That was in the month of

1209
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,559
May and over thousand ops in June.

1210
00:56:48,639 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 3: They would sure like that.

1211
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: And from a profile standpoint, it's like it's kind of

1212
00:56:53,199 --> 00:56:57,920
vintagey Goldie. Low strikeouts, higher walks. His barrel rates the

1213
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,000
best it's been since twenty twenty three, it's tied, his

1214
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:04,280
walk rates the best since twenty twenty three. His launch

1215
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,440
angle is the best since like twenty twenty one. He's

1216
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,360
pulling the ball like he looks revived. Now, maybe that's

1217
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,159
all gonna fall apart because he is an old house

1218
00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:14,760
and that's going to disappear. But Goldie's hitting in like

1219
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,679
a really really great environment, and I think the DH

1220
00:57:18,719 --> 00:57:21,639
spot is open. They've got injuries, judges out for some time.

1221
00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:24,440
And I really like Christian Walker's power.

1222
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: You know, he's.

1223
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 2: Obviously always been like a poll heavy guy. He's struggling

1224
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,000
at home. You know, he's hitting two thirty four at home.

1225
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:34,239
He's hitting better on the road. If he were to

1226
00:57:34,239 --> 00:57:36,119
be traded to a team like the Diamondbacks, my eyes

1227
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:37,840
would perk up because it's like, man, I think he

1228
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,039
would start to ball out there. But I kind of

1229
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:43,159
on the opposite end, I'm like, if it's just right now,

1230
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,440
it's Goldie, not thinking if it's the fir well, yeah.

1231
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:49,079
Speaker 3: If it's for the if it's for the first, the next,

1232
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,519
just month, then the answer is Goldie. I would agree

1233
00:57:52,519 --> 00:57:54,480
with that, but I guess everything else to me is

1234
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,199
too speculative, Like does Walker get traded. I'm not gonna

1235
00:57:57,199 --> 00:58:00,760
count that. Does Goldie lose time because a couple other

1236
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,920
guys come. Not When he's hitting three hundred plus, he's

1237
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:03,800
not losing any time.

1238
00:58:04,599 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: But maybe he becomes.

1239
00:58:05,559 --> 00:58:07,639
Speaker 3: More by the back half of the year. That's a

1240
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:10,360
possibility because Jeorgi and Grisham are both going to come back.

1241
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,679
They're not like Stanton might not come back, but that

1242
00:58:13,199 --> 00:58:14,039
are both going to come back.

1243
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: But that doesn't have to take away from Goldie though.

1244
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,800
Goldie could still think it will though, but I don't

1245
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,679
think it has to. But I think it absolutely will.

1246
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,559
Speaker 3: So that's it. Look playing time for both these guys,

1247
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:28,280
complete playing time. My answer is Goldie one percent, without question.

1248
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,519
I just don't think he's gonna get that playing time,

1249
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:31,840
So it's Walker Okay.

1250
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Goldie on that one. It's a

1251
00:58:33,239 --> 00:58:36,360
fun debate. The second one was another fun one that

1252
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,559
we threw out, and the only reason we did it

1253
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:42,039
was because of a of a your reaction here, because

1254
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:44,599
this might be another one of those just gonna throw

1255
00:58:44,639 --> 00:58:47,159
it out there that you're gonna hear and you're gonna

1256
00:58:47,159 --> 00:58:50,559
instantly just have your answer for it. But it might

1257
00:58:50,599 --> 00:58:52,360
be a little bit relevant to what your fantasy team

1258
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,840
looks like. But as a whole, the player debate is

1259
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,559
going to be Brian Reynolds to the Pittsburgh Pirates, who

1260
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:04,280
is quietly having a really great year versus Fernando Tatis Junior,

1261
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,320
which I know feels very icky for people to hear

1262
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,519
on the season, Brian Reynolds is hitting two eighty three,

1263
00:59:11,239 --> 00:59:15,239
has scored fifty runs forty seven RBI, ladies and gentlemen.

1264
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,639
He's pacing out to have a one hundred hundred season

1265
00:59:18,039 --> 00:59:20,440
and it has sure helped having some pieces around him

1266
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,039
in lineup protection right Oneo Cruz has been good, Ryan

1267
00:59:23,079 --> 00:59:26,679
O'Hearn like Brandon Low, they actually have pieces. Well, now

1268
00:59:26,719 --> 00:59:30,320
he's scoring runs, he's hitting RBIs, he has ten homers,

1269
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,079
he's five stolen. He even has five stolen bases. Guys,

1270
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:36,760
this is like vintage Brian Reynolds, remember when he was

1271
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,280
two eighty twenty five to ten. He looks like he's

1272
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,800
back there, but now at a potential hundred hundred season

1273
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,599
in front of him Versus Fernando Tatis Junior, who is

1274
00:59:45,639 --> 00:59:49,599
an absolute talent. He has wildly more stolen bases, eighteen

1275
00:59:49,679 --> 00:59:53,280
to Reynolds's five. Their average is almost moot at two

1276
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:58,000
eighty four, but Fernando Tatis, in nine more at bats,

1277
00:59:58,639 --> 01:00:01,400
has scored twenty two les runs with only twenty eight,

1278
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,519
has scored twenty one less RBI with twenty six, and

1279
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:06,920
has two homers to the ten. So you obviously know

1280
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,280
Tatis has been hitting like crazy this year. He has

1281
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,199
not been able to connect to the power. There's still

1282
01:00:11,199 --> 01:00:14,559
a whole second half. Obviously, if he did start showing

1283
01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:16,760
up that power with a two eighty four average, that's

1284
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,400
going to equate to probably more RBIs, and you know,

1285
01:00:19,599 --> 01:00:21,679
the stolen bases will look crazy. And if the guys

1286
01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:24,440
around him could get him in to score more runs

1287
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,400
like Machado, things could go really great. We know all

1288
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,199
the things that can be good with Tatis, it just

1289
01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:30,719
has not been. And Brian Reynolds is on kind of

1290
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:34,519
another worldly play right now, and so many things look good,

1291
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:36,880
and the pacing numbers look sick. So the question is

1292
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:41,480
rest of season. Yes, I understand Tatis has other position qualifications,

1293
01:00:41,639 --> 01:00:44,519
but Brian Reynolds or Fernanda Tatis Junior in a vacuum

1294
01:00:44,519 --> 01:00:45,639
not thinking about position.

1295
01:00:46,239 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 3: I would like you to, just before we start this,

1296
01:00:49,119 --> 01:00:52,599
tell me how many more runs the Pittsburgh Pirates have

1297
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,880
on the season than the San Diego Padres. Oh, that's

1298
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:57,679
interesting question.

1299
01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know how many.

1300
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:07,159
Speaker 3: Like its one hundred ninety nine. That's exactly right, Okay,

1301
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,480
I mean Pittsburgh is fifth in the league in runs

1302
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:15,360
and the Padres are twenty ninth. Only the Red Sox

1303
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,840
have one less run than the Padres two hundred and eighty.

1304
01:01:19,239 --> 01:01:23,920
Right now, the Padres batting average is where is It

1305
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:29,719
is two eighteen that is dead last in baseball by

1306
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,440
ten points. The Reds are hitting two twenty eight, which

1307
01:01:33,639 --> 01:01:36,880
is second worst, Cleveland at two twenty nine, and then

1308
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,800
Phillya two twenty nine. So it's not just Fernando Tatis

1309
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,199
not hitting homers that concerns me about him for the

1310
01:01:45,199 --> 01:01:47,320
rest of the season. It's obviously Machado is having a

1311
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,039
down year and the offense as a hole is bad,

1312
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,800
and Brian Reynolds is in the middle of this lineup

1313
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,320
and by the way, is continuing to rake without O'Neill, Cruiz,

1314
01:01:57,679 --> 01:02:00,159
Connor Griffin just went on the il as well, and

1315
01:02:00,199 --> 01:02:01,719
those guys are going to come back and make this

1316
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,280
lineup even better when they do, because it's been good

1317
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,519
all year. This is easily Brian Reynolds to me for

1318
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:12,039
this year, obviously, not for Dynasty. Fernando Tatis has a

1319
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:15,639
crazy high ceiling, but it's not working this year. He

1320
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,639
still only has two bombs. It's not like, oh, the

1321
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,840
the flip switched and here it is to you know, uh,

1322
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,800
five six seven bombs in this month. No, it's still two.

1323
01:02:28,599 --> 01:02:32,079
So the batting average is fine, but no one's getting

1324
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:33,960
on ahead of him. No one's driving him in either.

1325
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,960
It's like a whole systematic thing for the Padres right now.

1326
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:39,599
So for me right now, it's it's got to be

1327
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:42,239
Brian Reynolds and that one is way better except for

1328
01:02:42,239 --> 01:02:42,960
solen bases.

1329
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:45,719
Speaker 2: I wonder if that contract thing is still, like is

1330
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,599
it really in his head and affecting him, you know,

1331
01:02:47,639 --> 01:02:49,039
that whole Like he's got to give up like thirty

1332
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:52,679
five million dollars to whatever that agency when he sold

1333
01:02:52,719 --> 01:02:55,480
part of his contract. I wonder if that's gotten to him,

1334
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:59,480
or there's a floating injury like you could argue, like

1335
01:02:59,519 --> 01:03:01,440
he is still hitting for average, and he's hitting the

1336
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:02,760
ball hard. I mean, he's sitting the ball harder than

1337
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,920
he did last year. You know, he's still barreling the ball.

1338
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,159
Those things are really good. He just has miserable. Yeah,

1339
01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:11,679
that's been the thing that we focus on the entire year.

1340
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,440
He cannot get that launch going. He's hitting the ball,

1341
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,760
his bat speed is a mile and a half faster

1342
01:03:19,239 --> 01:03:22,840
than last year. He's getting to it faster, but that stance,

1343
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,239
he closed it off a lot more compared to last year.

1344
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,000
Thirty degrees open last year, seventeen this year. So he

1345
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:31,599
essentially cut his batting stands in half. And it's like

1346
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,360
that clearly has to be something to it. So but

1347
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,719
what is the reason behind that? What is the reason

1348
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,880
to have closed off your stands to get more bat speed?

1349
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:41,840
Is the reason that you're maybe, you know, hiding some

1350
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,960
type of injury, Like I just don't know what it is,

1351
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,159
and maybe they'll just be will never have any.

1352
01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 3: I assume it's going to get fixed, but it just

1353
01:03:48,519 --> 01:03:50,079
hasn't and we're three months in.

1354
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,119
Speaker 2: I think Reynolds is just too hot right now. I

1355
01:03:53,199 --> 01:03:55,920
don't I wouldn't kill anybody that wanted to keep meeting there.

1356
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,880
Because it's high average, high Sperling base. You assume the

1357
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,039
power could go up. I mean, he's kind of, if

1358
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:05,000
we're being honest, he kind of looks no more than

1359
01:04:05,159 --> 01:04:08,199
Xavier Edwards, you know, stolen bases average, I mean, the

1360
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,840
Xavier Edgards scoring more runs. Tatis has the ceiling, but

1361
01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:14,920
but Reynolds is just too consistent right now, Like it's

1362
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,760
gonna be hard for him to not have one hundred

1363
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,719
hundred season with twenty plus homers and ten stolen bases,

1364
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:22,000
And it's like, that's what you dream of. Just give

1365
01:04:22,039 --> 01:04:25,039
me twenty five hundred hundred to eighty five and ten

1366
01:04:25,079 --> 01:04:27,239
stolen bases like that is a top two or three

1367
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:27,920
round player.

1368
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 3: He doesn't have a chance to make us look real dumb.

1369
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: Oh this one could make us look like one mass

1370
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:34,440
for sure when Tatis all of a sudden, so it's

1371
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:35,119
getting the ball in.

1372
01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:37,679
Speaker 3: The air and he has hit three homers tonight and half.

1373
01:04:37,559 --> 01:04:40,239
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, But like I think the point of it

1374
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,199
is okay in June June eighteenth, what's more important to you?

1375
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,400
Playing for the upside or playing for I don't even

1376
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,559
want to call Reynolds not upside, but like the safety

1377
01:04:50,719 --> 01:04:53,599
of a of a fourth round player or third let's

1378
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,760
what would you say that is twenty five to ten

1379
01:04:56,079 --> 01:04:57,840
to eighty five, one hundred hundred, that's like a third

1380
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:58,880
round player, right, yeah?

1381
01:04:58,960 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1382
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,199
Speaker 2: Would you like that safety of a third round player

1383
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,119
that is just locked or do you want a player

1384
01:05:05,159 --> 01:05:07,639
that has the downside of an eighth round player and

1385
01:05:07,639 --> 01:05:08,960
the upside of a first round player?

1386
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: Because it's not just Tatis having to come through for

1387
01:05:11,519 --> 01:05:14,159
this to happen. It's the rest of his teammates as well,

1388
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,800
because like he's already hitting two eighty four. If the

1389
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,079
power comes, the power comes, and that's great and that

1390
01:05:19,159 --> 01:05:21,800
will lead to more RBIs, but he still has to

1391
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,000
be driven in.

1392
01:05:23,079 --> 01:05:26,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do pull up what is Tatis ranked right now?

1393
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,519
You want to get people might get on my case.

1394
01:05:28,639 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 3: No, just tell me, okay, Tatis is ranked one hundred

1395
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:32,880
and forty seven.

1396
01:05:32,719 --> 01:05:34,519
Speaker 2: Perfect, because I want anybody to get on my case

1397
01:05:34,519 --> 01:05:36,480
about me calling the low and eighth round player.

1398
01:05:36,519 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 3: Guess what it's worse.

1399
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,599
Speaker 2: So in the draft season, if you okay, perfect, I

1400
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,239
nailed it. If you want to have the debate in

1401
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,760
the preseason, in draft season of do I want a

1402
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,280
guy that has the down the downside of a tenth

1403
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:52,519
round or the upside of a first or do I

1404
01:05:52,519 --> 01:05:54,000
want to have a guy that has the floor of

1405
01:05:54,039 --> 01:05:56,239
a third fourth round player? And you want to go

1406
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,000
on the other side, that's fine. When it's the middle

1407
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,719
of the season, I'm going to take the the balance

1408
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,880
of the third fourth round player who's killing it than

1409
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,599
having those big swings. So I'm gonna go Brian Renolds too,

1410
01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:08,000
and I actually thought I was gonna go with Tatis

1411
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,679
before we started this, But the more we've done it,

1412
01:06:09,719 --> 01:06:13,079
I'm gonna go with Tatis or Renalds to me now

1413
01:06:13,079 --> 01:06:16,079
as it hit five homers tonight and we won't lead.

1414
01:06:16,199 --> 01:06:18,400
We won't lead leading off with it either, we'll talk

1415
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,719
about yeah, Tiger has a story on or something. Now,

1416
01:06:22,199 --> 01:06:24,800
all right, on the pitching side, two pitching debates, will

1417
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,719
try to be a little bit quicker. This one I

1418
01:06:26,719 --> 01:06:29,840
thought was a lot of fun. It is Redebtmers versus

1419
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,119
Emerson Hancock. Why is it so much fun? Because Hancock

1420
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:35,320
has been incredible in a better pitching environment, but he

1421
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,599
has now pushed to a piggyback role, potentially Redebtmers on

1422
01:06:38,639 --> 01:06:40,400
a poop team, but there's a lot of trade rumors

1423
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:44,000
out there. Redebtmers one hundred strikeouts with a three six

1424
01:06:44,119 --> 01:06:47,000
eight ERA, a one whip, only three wins because team

1425
01:06:47,079 --> 01:06:50,119
context kind of sucks. Versus Emerson Hancock, who has a

1426
01:06:50,119 --> 01:06:52,440
few less innings, pitch seventy nine to the eighty eight,

1427
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,400
five wins, seventy five strikeouts, but a three two eight ERA,

1428
01:06:56,519 --> 01:06:58,559
which is better in a one point zero two whip.

1429
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,760
So again, hand with the I think the team context

1430
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,519
is better, the home ballpark is better. He's been super consistent,

1431
01:07:04,559 --> 01:07:06,840
though his strikeouts have come down versus Dettvers, who's been

1432
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,519
a strikeout machine a little bit higher. I don't want

1433
01:07:09,519 --> 01:07:11,559
to call it inflated or anything like that era, but

1434
01:07:11,639 --> 01:07:14,519
you know, it's a tiny bit more up there. His

1435
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,719
expected era is actually a lot better. Debtmors is and

1436
01:07:18,719 --> 01:07:22,039
there's some trade rumors out there rest of season. Which

1437
01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:22,719
guy do you want?

1438
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:26,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Debtmers for me. I don't like the Mariners

1439
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,719
using this piggyback thing, and if they're going to continue

1440
01:07:29,719 --> 01:07:31,760
it beyond the All Star break, it's probably going to

1441
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,039
be with you know, other starters in there, as you

1442
01:07:35,119 --> 01:07:38,960
mentioned coming up, like Kate Anderson. So I think Reed

1443
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,960
Detmers is having a great year. You're right about the

1444
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,239
team contact, but I don't think there's many more starting

1445
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,039
pitchers that are more likely to be traded than a

1446
01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:49,480
guy that has one hundred strikeouts is having a spike

1447
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:52,639
year on a team that's fifteen games below five hundred.

1448
01:07:53,239 --> 01:07:56,400
So it's going to be Detmers to me for me

1449
01:07:57,159 --> 01:08:00,079
because of the fact that I think he's probably going

1450
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:03,400
to get traded and he's just wholly consistent. Right now.

1451
01:08:03,639 --> 01:08:05,920
I'll take the lack of wins for the strikeouts and

1452
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,800
the uh, you know, the ability to go deep in

1453
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,519
games unlike Emerson Hancock. Can you give me the Yahoo

1454
01:08:11,559 --> 01:08:12,480
rings a both these guys.

1455
01:08:12,679 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really curious because what's fascinating while you're doing

1456
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,960
that is Detmers is the guy with the higher ERA

1457
01:08:18,359 --> 01:08:21,600
and a way better expected ERA, and Hancock is in

1458
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,840
the opposite direction better six.

1459
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,239
Speaker 3: Verst one oh three. You want to know who's who?

1460
01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:26,079
You want to guess?

1461
01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 2: I think Hancock is eighty six, Hancock is eighty six, Yeah,

1462
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,960
one on three six. It's Debtmers with the higher ERA,

1463
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:38,119
way better expected ra Hancock with the lower e RA

1464
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,399
but much worse expected ra. K percentage goes in the

1465
01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:45,680
favor of Debtmers. You've got a twenty spot ish lead.

1466
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,600
You just said in favor of Hancock. What is hand

1467
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,119
What What is Hancock's XCRA four point four to six

1468
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,520
his I'll say this, his x FIP is three six

1469
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,520
five and Sierra is three five to nine. So so,

1470
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,920
and Sierra is a marker lot of people want to

1471
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,920
go by. I think what's probably registering some of that

1472
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,399
is he's getting barreled like crazy, ten point seven percent.

1473
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,439
That's up three percent from year over year. He's getting

1474
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:14,239
hit harder as well, that's probably leading to some of it.

1475
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,560
And his sinker, actually his two biggest pitches, his sinker

1476
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,439
and his fastball have some pretty high x of velocities

1477
01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,199
against run ninety three miles per hour, but there haven't

1478
01:09:24,199 --> 01:09:27,720
been great insane results against. But on the same token,

1479
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,000
like Debt, Meers is not giving up a lot of

1480
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,199
barreled contact. He's striking out more, he's walking less like

1481
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:35,279
I think, I think he's getting traded, And I think.

1482
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 3: There's also there's also a nine inning difference here in

1483
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,800
favor of Debt Merse. I think that's going to be

1484
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:44,920
way bigger by the end of the year, way bigger. Well, yeah,

1485
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,359
with the piggyback situation.

1486
01:09:46,079 --> 01:09:48,319
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Yeah, And if anything, I don't want

1487
01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:50,520
to let it drive me. But if I needed, if

1488
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,319
we looked at these guys and were like, all right,

1489
01:09:52,359 --> 01:09:54,640
twenty spots ball lah, coin flip, Oh, how about the

1490
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,720
coin flip be the guy that's not going to be

1491
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,359
in a piggyback situation and isn't going to potentially lose

1492
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,079
quality star to maybe potentially lose wins. What if his

1493
01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:04,479
pitch count goes up through four innings and they're not

1494
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,840
given a shot to go to the fifth inning because

1495
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,720
they don't want the pitch count to go up. And

1496
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,239
what if he would have had a great inning? Like

1497
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,319
again ifs and bututs. It's crazy to me, But I'm

1498
01:10:13,359 --> 01:10:15,880
with you on Reed, Debt Merz. The final one you

1499
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,279
actually didn't really want. I think this is a great one,

1500
01:10:20,039 --> 01:10:23,359
and it is. There's a bit of recencies for it.

1501
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,800
But the way people are talking about Dustin May right now,

1502
01:10:27,319 --> 01:10:30,439
who we're going to talk about, is how everybody was

1503
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,920
talking about Jose Soriano at the beginning of the season.

1504
01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:34,920
So those are the two that were going up against

1505
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,760
each other, Dustin May, Soria, Jose Soriano, everybody's love child.

1506
01:10:39,239 --> 01:10:42,479
Eighty seven innings this year, has picked up eight wins,

1507
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,800
very good, ninety two strikeouts has been great, still has

1508
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,199
a two point seventy nine era despite a couple of

1509
01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:51,920
blow ups, but as an inflated one two three whip

1510
01:10:52,079 --> 01:10:54,399
versus Dustin May, who's now up to eighty one and

1511
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:57,479
two thirds of an inning, five wins, seventy five strikeouts,

1512
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,039
so that is less than the innings pitched a three

1513
01:11:01,159 --> 01:11:03,880
seven five ERA, but a one to one four whip.

1514
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,479
Biggest differences bogs. When I look at this, Soriano's walk

1515
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,600
rate has inflated. His expected ERA is four to ten.

1516
01:11:11,079 --> 01:11:12,800
His walk rate is one of the worst of his

1517
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,119
career at eleven point seven. I put him on the

1518
01:11:15,239 --> 01:11:18,960
cells and we pair him up against Dustin may who

1519
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,960
lowest walk rate he's had in the last four years.

1520
01:11:23,159 --> 01:11:26,800
He actually has a lower expected ERA than his actual era. Uh,

1521
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:28,920
you know, k percentage looks fine. He's not giving up

1522
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,039
barrel contact. He's obviously coming off of that really phenomenal outing.

1523
01:11:32,359 --> 01:11:34,640
He is giving up a lot of hard contact, though,

1524
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,079
which might be a little bit of a concern. I'm

1525
01:11:37,079 --> 01:11:39,800
surprised it actually isn't leading to a higher expected ERA.

1526
01:11:40,079 --> 01:11:42,039
But these guys almost have a full differential when you

1527
01:11:42,079 --> 01:11:45,880
look at XCRA in favor of Dustin May. So, is

1528
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,760
this easily Dustin May to you? Or are you going

1529
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,560
to go back to your your baby Jose Soriano from earlier.

1530
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 3: No. I By the way, it was one time I

1531
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,880
said I like Closos Horiano when he was the best

1532
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,760
pitcher in baseball for like two months.

1533
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not amy.

1534
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 3: Everybody was like, no.

1535
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 2: The only thing we ever did we talked about ranks

1536
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:04,479
one time, and I think you were like, well, he's

1537
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,000
got to be a top twenty pitcher in baseball.

1538
01:12:06,039 --> 01:12:08,520
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, he's pitching like it, but

1539
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,560
I'm not putting them there. Yeah, I like, I think

1540
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:13,880
this is close. I think they're both overrated right now,

1541
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,479
right because uh, Soriano has kind of come back down

1542
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,960
to earth. But also this month has been better than May.

1543
01:12:21,279 --> 01:12:24,760
He's is era in June is three four five, which

1544
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,479
is very reasonable. It's z point eight four like it

1545
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,520
was in April five three four in May, so a

1546
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,680
couple blow ups. He had seventeen earned runs in May,

1547
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,680
He's only had eight in June after having four in March.

1548
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,439
In April, so, but Dustin May has just gotten better

1549
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,079
every single month five two eight, three eight six one

1550
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:48,479
three one. He's peaking right now. So I think currently

1551
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,720
today most people are going to say May. I don't

1552
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,680
really have a strong argument one way or the other

1553
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,199
for either one of them. I'll say that Dustin May's

1554
01:13:00,199 --> 01:13:04,680
is three seven five Soriano's is four oh one, So

1555
01:13:06,359 --> 01:13:11,960
like maybe a slight to a slight bump towards May,

1556
01:13:12,039 --> 01:13:16,159
and I'll probably pick May here, but they're both I

1557
01:13:16,199 --> 01:13:18,880
think probably a little overrated.

1558
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,279
Speaker 2: I'm I guess I'm clearly Dustin May just because I

1559
01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:26,199
put Soriano in the cell department. I don't like the

1560
01:13:26,279 --> 01:13:28,520
walk right like I love the strikeout. I like the

1561
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:30,960
strikeouts for Soriano even though they've dipped.

1562
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 3: But like I could get traded too. Yeah, he's in

1563
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,399
the exact same situation as read Deeptmers.

1564
01:13:35,399 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah that's a goodoint. You could trade

1565
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,399
both those guys. But it's just like the walks I

1566
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,039
think really hurt this The expected dra is telling the

1567
01:13:42,079 --> 01:13:44,039
story of kind of how he's getting hit right now,

1568
01:13:44,039 --> 01:13:46,640
he's been inconsistent. He hit a seven walk game recently.

1569
01:13:47,239 --> 01:13:49,640
I don't like it. Dustin May, I think, is finding

1570
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,079
a groove. Also, if you look at the stuff numbers,

1571
01:13:52,119 --> 01:13:54,279
I don't have Soriano's up, so maybe that would tell

1572
01:13:54,319 --> 01:13:57,680
a good story. But last year Dustin May was ninety eight,

1573
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,359
ninety seven and ninety five. That's stuff plus location plus

1574
01:14:00,359 --> 01:14:03,960
and pitching plus. This year he has a higher stuff

1575
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:09,159
plus on every single pitch, and the stuff location in

1576
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:12,119
pitching numbers. His fastball is up to one oh three.

1577
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,920
His sinker was ninety. It's up to one fifteen. That's

1578
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,680
been a huge change. This is what the hell is this?

1579
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,000
Is this the change it or cutter? I can't tell

1580
01:14:22,199 --> 01:14:26,399
the the naming here, but that's up. The slider is

1581
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:28,600
way up up to one fifteen. That's like an elite

1582
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,760
pitch curveball one O three and change up. It still

1583
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,000
kind of sucks, but models are weird with that. But

1584
01:14:34,039 --> 01:14:36,760
the stuff plus numbers one O three, one oh two

1585
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,039
and one oh five. The pitching plus is up ten

1586
01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:43,039
full points. Location is up. It's showing that like he's

1587
01:14:43,079 --> 01:14:45,920
got a couple like really and especially having that slider

1588
01:14:46,039 --> 01:14:48,359
is like an elite pitch. His location has gotten better,

1589
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,520
which tells a better story. That's that's the answer for me.

1590
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,000
It's just it's dustin May.

1591
01:14:54,119 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 3: What was that? What was the the stuff for May?

1592
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:57,279
As well?

1593
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: Uh?

1594
01:14:58,039 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 3: Stuff? Location, pitching? Give it to me? Yes, Uh, I

1595
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,560
thought you were saying May. I was okay, say it

1596
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,000
again because I have Soriano's Oh oh okay.

1597
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,560
Speaker 2: I was in a pull up crianos Well, I went

1598
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,239
away from it, but I believe I said it was

1599
01:15:10,399 --> 01:15:12,520
one oh two or one oh three.

1600
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,119
Speaker 3: Stuff plush pitch at location was like.

1601
01:15:15,079 --> 01:15:16,159
Speaker 2: One O two. I think it was one O three,

1602
01:15:16,199 --> 01:15:18,720
one O two and one oh five was the overalls,

1603
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,760
and he had two pitches of one fifteen or.

1604
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 3: Higher oneh three, one oh six.

1605
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,520
Speaker 2: That's the prising on the location plus numbers for Soriano.

1606
01:15:27,159 --> 01:15:31,319
Speaker 3: And then he has his UH sliders and one oh five.

1607
01:15:32,039 --> 01:15:35,680
His UH four steamer is a one oh two or

1608
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,600
is I don't know what this fs is? Uh? And

1609
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:43,119
then the splitter, okay, splitters one O two, slider's ninety six.

1610
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,720
That's bad. That sinker is one O five, excuse me,

1611
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:49,800
and his fastball is ninety six. So yeah, I mean

1612
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:51,439
it's it's fine.

1613
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 2: I just think there's a better story being told on

1614
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,319
the stuff of Dustin May, especially now.

1615
01:15:55,199 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 3: That he's both going to rank lower than they currently

1616
01:15:58,119 --> 01:15:59,079
rank at the end of the year.

1617
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: I think it's the where they ranked.

1618
01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:05,239
Speaker 3: Actually didn't look that up, but I can't Soriana, you

1619
01:16:05,239 --> 01:16:06,680
want to take any cracks at these?

1620
01:16:07,119 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 2: Sure, Soriano is like the era is I'm gonna say

1621
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,800
seventy five, and Dustin May is like one to fifteen.

1622
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 3: Uh. It would be one fifty two for May and

1623
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,439
fifty nine for Soriano.

1624
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 2: I definitely think Soriano will be lower than he has

1625
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,039
ranked at the end of the year. I think that's

1626
01:16:25,119 --> 01:16:26,439
I think Dustin may has a shot to be a

1627
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,199
little bit higher. I guess I'm just a little bit more.

1628
01:16:28,119 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 3: Of a believer. Yeah, I believe, Yeah, I think now

1629
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,119
I don't believe in either one of them. Okay, that's fair,

1630
01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:37,399
that's fair, fair enough.

1631
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,119
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, player debates. Who did you

1632
01:16:39,159 --> 01:16:42,359
guys like the most in here, Dustin May Or, Soriano,

1633
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:47,279
det Mercer, Hancock, Reynolds, Tatis, Walker, Goldschmid, Auto, Lopez, Kevi McGonagall.

1634
01:16:47,319 --> 01:16:49,560
Let us know, love to hear from you guys, especially

1635
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,159
if there are any big disagreements. Final up, let's look

1636
01:16:52,159 --> 01:16:54,880
at the two star pitchers for next week. I'm not

1637
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,840
gonna seem any Mariner. Oh I see a Mariner, but

1638
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,720
that probably won't happen because of piggybacking. Let's see on

1639
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,960
the high end, you've got Gavin Williams, Sunny Gray, Carlos, Redon,

1640
01:17:04,079 --> 01:17:10,039
Jesus Lozardo. A note on Jesus Lozardo, he for whatever reason,

1641
01:17:10,119 --> 01:17:12,720
cannot pitch at home this year. I believe that's what

1642
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,920
it is. Right. He has his Have you seen his

1643
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,840
split on Lozaro? Oh my god, look at his split.

1644
01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:19,479
It's the most insane thing.

1645
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 3: We had that crazy run of where he wasn't giving

1646
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,880
any innings here any runs up? Is that all those

1647
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,760
starts on the road. Check this out.

1648
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 2: He has a one to five to five road era,

1649
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:34,279
a six point six zero era at home. He has

1650
01:17:34,399 --> 01:17:36,079
more starts at home than on the road. So if

1651
01:17:36,119 --> 01:17:38,199
you think it was just one start, he's given up

1652
01:17:38,319 --> 01:17:41,159
thirty three runs at home and only seven on the road.

1653
01:17:41,319 --> 01:17:42,159
Speaker 3: Why did I say that?

1654
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,600
Speaker 2: He has two road games next week against Washington and

1655
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,000
the nuts. Hell Yeah, uh, you got Kirby. We'll see

1656
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,439
how that ends up going. Nolan McLain, Yeah, I know

1657
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:51,960
why you laugh.

1658
01:17:52,039 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, dude, but it's.

1659
01:17:57,159 --> 01:17:59,399
Speaker 2: You sent me like a dance. It was like some

1660
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:00,840
contemporary dancing dude.

1661
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,079
Speaker 3: Some lady was just dancing to like an Ai song

1662
01:18:04,399 --> 01:18:07,039
made from the bananana bread bro Hell.

1663
01:18:08,359 --> 01:18:11,079
Speaker 2: I told dogs I was in this is like a

1664
01:18:11,119 --> 01:18:12,880
year or two ago. I was in flat. I don't

1665
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:13,560
remember what we were there.

1666
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 3: I think it was just like a little trip.

1667
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: We were in Flagstaff and I had to go run

1668
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:20,239
out to like Walgrange or something to get something for

1669
01:18:20,279 --> 01:18:23,960
everybody as I do, as you do. And I saw

1670
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,960
a video and it was someone with like one of

1671
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,960
those you know, like what would Jesus do bracelets?

1672
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 3: But it was every word.

1673
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 2: From that like banana bread, bro hell. And then I

1674
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:37,279
ended up sitting in the parking lot. I watched that

1675
01:18:37,359 --> 01:18:40,800
original video about ten times and I laughed as hard

1676
01:18:41,239 --> 01:18:43,119
every single It is just one of the funniest.

1677
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 3: Videos, tackling like a psycho and the.

1678
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: Hell ye all right, so sorry about that. Nolan McClain,

1679
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:54,239
Drew Rescimus and these are all no brainers, any braining

1680
01:18:54,239 --> 01:18:56,840
with Framberveldez going against the Yankees and the Astros.

1681
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 3: Last one, yeah, and that was against yash shows, So

1682
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:01,520
not really.

1683
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: Okay, Michael King, probably nothing you savage. Foster Griffin has

1684
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,319
got the phillies and the orioles.

1685
01:19:09,079 --> 01:19:11,399
Speaker 3: He's been good. Yeah, I'm I'm rolling him.

1686
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 2: I don't like it though. I don't like those starts.

1687
01:19:14,199 --> 01:19:16,960
Hunter Brown good, Shay McClanahan good. Now we get into

1688
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:20,039
some stuff Michael Waka at Tampa Bay and at the

1689
01:19:20,039 --> 01:19:24,119
White Sox, I'd say I'd still go, yes, you know,

1690
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:29,800
has it? How has Walker been recently? Has Walker been

1691
01:19:30,279 --> 01:19:32,920
let's tick a look terrible this month. I think he's

1692
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,520
been I think he's been fine.

1693
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,399
Speaker 3: He's been decent. Uh.

1694
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,520
Speaker 2: He has a five point three e RA this month.

1695
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:42,680
He had a three three two last month he got

1696
01:19:43,119 --> 01:19:48,479
four and runs against the Twins. Four earned runs recently

1697
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:54,319
and three earned runs he had He went seven, six,

1698
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,199
six and seven in the last two.

1699
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 3: So who does he have again?

1700
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 2: He has the Rays and the Whites. I think I

1701
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:01,680
still with this.

1702
01:20:02,359 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 3: Where where are these teams in runs? Because I know

1703
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:09,720
the White Sox are high, right, I'm not gonna be Yeah, yeah,

1704
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,880
you know what, it's fine. It's how about your boy

1705
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:13,319
at Wardo.

1706
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 2: He's got the Cardinals and Tampa Bay, both road games.

1707
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:17,720
He has been nuts.

1708
01:20:18,159 --> 01:20:21,199
Speaker 3: So I think I told you this yesterday, e Rod.

1709
01:20:21,319 --> 01:20:23,000
I was texting with one of my buddies is also

1710
01:20:23,039 --> 01:20:25,439
a Diamondbacks fan, and we were going back and forth

1711
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,159
the I'm like, yeah, they get turned into a pumpkin.

1712
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,199
And then he goes out seven innings, gives up one run,

1713
01:20:30,279 --> 01:20:33,159
strikes out six. I'm like, never doubt, e Rod, love

1714
01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:36,359
you buddy. Yeah, he's having a good year. So I'll say, yes,

1715
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:38,359
last good start.

1716
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:39,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm okay.

1717
01:20:39,119 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 3: With this too. Bradish.

1718
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely, these are still.

1719
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 3: High percent kind of high percentages grant homes.

1720
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,159
Speaker 2: That's fine. Casey's got the Yankees in the Astros. I

1721
01:20:50,199 --> 01:20:55,000
actually don't love that. Jack Lighter, Mary. You think he

1722
01:20:55,039 --> 01:20:58,119
got hit up a little bit today, didn't he? Let's see, Yeah,

1723
01:20:58,239 --> 01:20:58,920
looks like you did.

1724
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 3: They give ups. Let's see you give up all seven

1725
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:01,279
of these.

1726
01:21:01,319 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 2: He gave up six of the seven.

1727
01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:06,119
Speaker 3: So I think his last start out wasn't great either,

1728
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:06,880
was it?

1729
01:21:07,039 --> 01:21:11,039
Speaker 2: Marlin Marlins? Both road games, Marlins and the Blue Jays.

1730
01:21:11,039 --> 01:21:12,520
I don't think I want to do that.

1731
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,119
Speaker 3: Let's see. Yeah, six earned runs in this game, five

1732
01:21:16,239 --> 01:21:19,039
in the last game, and that six is the season high,

1733
01:21:19,399 --> 01:21:21,880
five tied for his previous season high. So yeah, I

1734
01:21:22,159 --> 01:21:23,520
pass on. Jack Glider.

1735
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,560
Speaker 2: Think I'm a passy Merle. Your boy Merle has got

1736
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,000
thes in Tampa. He's always bad, so he's the worst.

1737
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,840
Pete Lambert Blue Jays and the Tigers.

1738
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 3: He's been good. I'm actually okay with Lambert.

1739
01:21:38,399 --> 01:21:40,239
Speaker 2: I don't love the Master. I guess if you need

1740
01:21:40,279 --> 01:21:42,199
to do it, that's fine. Edward Cabrera, I don't know

1741
01:21:42,199 --> 01:21:44,159
if he makes those because he got banged up. Mitch

1742
01:21:44,279 --> 01:21:46,920
Keller has got the Mariners and the Reds.

1743
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,560
Speaker 3: By the way, Toronto Detroit twenty three and twenty four

1744
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,800
in runs, So I'm okay with that.

1745
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,199
Speaker 2: Who I mean, Lambert's a little bit of a rest.

1746
01:21:55,239 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 3: That's fine. A Mitch Keller, Marlins and Reds. I think

1747
01:21:58,199 --> 01:22:01,800
has at Keller's been not great recently too, hasn't he?

1748
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,079
He started out real hot, but I think he's kind

1749
01:22:04,119 --> 01:22:07,199
of slowing down recently. So I'm gonna I'm gonna question

1750
01:22:07,279 --> 01:22:10,439
on that one. Andre Polante has got the Diamondbacks and

1751
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,600
the Marlins. I actually kind of like this one. He's

1752
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,439
been good. And by the way, uh, who are we

1753
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,279
just talking about here? At Keller his last three games

1754
01:22:18,319 --> 01:22:21,760
four earned, five earned six four earned five earned six

1755
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:26,840
earned seven earn in his last four games, oh ah

1756
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,079
oh five six seven ah.

1757
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:32,399
Speaker 2: So no on Keller.

1758
01:22:32,399 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 3: I would rather Polante over Keller. I would also rather

1759
01:22:35,119 --> 01:22:37,319
Zebbi next. Zebbi has been good, like two or three

1760
01:22:37,319 --> 01:22:39,840
starts in a row. I know he started out real bad,

1761
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,000
he got sent down, he was not good, but he's

1762
01:22:42,039 --> 01:22:42,439
been the.

1763
01:22:42,399 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 2: Last He's got the Dodgers. You want to start Zebi

1764
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,720
versus the Dodgers, I would avoid that and then play

1765
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:47,720
him against Colorado.

1766
01:22:48,039 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 3: If yeah, if I'm in, if I'm in a week, uh,

1767
01:22:51,079 --> 01:22:54,000
you know, a daily league, then for sure. Let's see

1768
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,279
the last couple of starts for Zebby. He gave up, no,

1769
01:22:58,199 --> 01:23:00,000
it was two of the last three have been good.

1770
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:04,279
He went six innings the game of seven against Detroit

1771
01:23:04,359 --> 01:23:08,399
in between there, but seven and two afters and then

1772
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:12,560
seven and two against the Royals. So you're right, yes,

1773
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,600
skip that Dodgers once starm against the Rockets.

1774
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, Anthony k. You know what sneaky. I do like

1775
01:23:18,039 --> 01:23:21,680
both of these. It's the Guardians and the Royals. Guardians

1776
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,479
are without Za Ramirez there without Chase the latter like

1777
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,000
I I think their offense is just kind of dangled

1778
01:23:27,079 --> 01:23:30,119
right now. Anthony Kay. I'm down with Anthony Kay here.

1779
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,239
Speaker 3: Twenty fifth and twenty seventh and runs those teams.

1780
01:23:32,279 --> 01:23:33,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I think this is a really good

1781
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,960
spot starter for next week, especially if we're in the

1782
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,800
low percentages. By the way, we're just going through the

1783
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,720
CBS chart. I know there's plenty of pitchers you guys

1784
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,800
don't have. We're just like to talk about them. This

1785
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,239
is probably like that we're under under fifty percent. Started

1786
01:23:45,239 --> 01:23:48,880
at Polante. That's one. We're skipping. Zebbi k is number two.

1787
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,760
We like Brady Singer. That's gonna be a no for me.

1788
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,399
Dog Nope, I guess looking at the rest of this list,

1789
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,720
I don't think I like anything from a two start,

1790
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:02,720
and we're talking Houser and Savale. Senga's got the I

1791
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:04,239
don't like saying against the Phillies.

1792
01:24:04,399 --> 01:24:06,319
Speaker 3: I don't like Sanga until he proves himself.

1793
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 2: Maybe Sprot has got a home game against the Reds

1794
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,479
and then the Cubs, or I'm sorry, I like the

1795
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,079
road game against the Reds and the Cubs. Maybe Sprot.

1796
01:24:15,079 --> 01:24:16,039
I don't like anything else.

1797
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Asad has been good, but at the

1798
01:24:19,279 --> 01:24:22,159
Mets and then the Brewers is just no good. So

1799
01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:24,159
I'm with you. I don't like what you know what

1800
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,319
h Kyle Lee Hay or LEI? How do you say

1801
01:24:27,359 --> 01:24:27,600
his name?

1802
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 2: Lay? Hey Lehi?

1803
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,199
Speaker 3: He well lay he is from Trailer Park Boys, so

1804
01:24:33,399 --> 01:24:36,319
I always I can't not think of Kyle Lay as

1805
01:24:36,319 --> 01:24:39,399
a drunk now. But maybe against the the d Backs

1806
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:43,079
and the Marlins, because I feel like he's had a

1807
01:24:43,119 --> 01:24:44,600
couple of good starts in a row. I know the

1808
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,760
last one yesterday was it yesterday or two days ago

1809
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,199
was really good. There.

1810
01:24:50,199 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 2: You got a little two start actions, some player debates,

1811
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:58,640
lots of news and conversation. Hopefully that fills your appetite.

1812
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,600
What's your appetite, what's your beat? What's the seat?

1813
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get people wet I don't like. I

1814
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,960
don't like gross. Oh it was gross. Call Now sign

1815
01:25:09,039 --> 01:25:10,199
up today in this league dot com.

1816
01:25:10,279 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 2: Do that today. Uh there's no wet talk any there.

1817
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,800
But sign up in this league dot com sports boys

1818
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,760
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1819
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,640
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1820
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:22,399
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1821
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,239
we will disappear, literally disappear.

1822
01:25:25,319 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 3: We're gonna take our katanas and sell them somewhere else.

1823
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,039
Speaker 2: We'll just fade away. We'll just fade away. It would

1824
01:25:30,079 --> 01:25:32,399
just be like, uh, all the other guys. Who's the

1825
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:34,119
guy I don't remember the guy's name who sold all

1826
01:25:34,119 --> 01:25:36,600
the No, no, there's Billy Mays. But there was the

1827
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,800
guy that used to sell like he had a very

1828
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:43,359
specific guy. He had the go tee and sham no

1829
01:25:43,359 --> 01:25:44,960
no no. The guy that sold all the cards on

1830
01:25:45,039 --> 01:25:47,079
like QBC at night. He was a very specific guy.

1831
01:25:47,079 --> 01:25:49,680
He'd always sell like memorabhilia and he would sell katanas

1832
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,159
and he would just be like, well, this is a deal.

1833
01:25:52,319 --> 01:25:54,680
Women are gonna love you, and someone knows the someone

1834
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:56,960
will text it to me, tweet it to me. So

1835
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,000
there you go. Follow us in this league dot com.

1836
01:25:59,039 --> 01:26:00,880
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1837
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,800
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1838
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,880
hanging out with us. Have a fantastic week. We'll talk

1839
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:07,199
to you next time right here and in this league

1840
01:26:07,239 --> 01:26:07,840
push

1841
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:08,359
Speaker 1: So will you