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I guess even video. I got the music. But if
your video, this is just a short little video put
out there separately from the trast Told You episode you
would have got earlier. For audio people, I'd record travs
told you some good topics, lots of fun times, but
most of it centered. A lot of it centered around
the Batman Part two, because we're talking about cinematography change
up and all that stuff. And it's funny because in
that same thing I was talking about that you know,
news came out yesterday, Matt Reeves dropped the gift that
he used to do back in the day, right, he
used to drop those gifts to confirm news and whatnot.
And I said, oh, we're getting that point. He did
it first time. We're getting back there that you know
that second, I guess only the second tradition of it,
but it is tradition of that happening. And then so
in that episode, I talk about the Batman cinotraphy change
up and what that might and why it's probably a
good fit. Even though yes, we're losing the great Greg Frasier.
I talked about the Robin rumors for bringing the Bull.
That's about some James Gunn Paramount stuff, all that good jazz. Right.
But it was a very Batman Part two centric episode,
you know, kind of a lot of side plots happening.
I stopped recording that, and then within that hour the
scardro news, which we're gonna talk about right now, broke.
So if you are what if you're listening to this
and you're non patron, you'll just get it right after.
I'll do this little fifteen to twenty and then you'll
get the music. You'll go right into a regular episode.
But I had to add this bonus because not only
did I talk about that, I also talked about it
like it's one of those things where literally I recorded
saying these things about these scenarios, and then they happened
within the hour. Because I said, Okay, are we going
to get these gifts and these announcements for cast right?
And I said, probably not likely unless we hear something
like this, because I said before with The Batman there
were a couple of castes like John Detrel right, I
don't think that was rumor of the trades put out there.
But we heard stuff about Catwoll and we heard, oh
it's Halter Passon, Oh it's a sep Rogan I think
dan O and uh Godonah Jonah Hill, Yeah for rid
like talk about all these other scenarios and penguins. Right.
So when that happened, though, we'd hear little scuttle butt.
Then a week or two pass than the gift drops everything.
But I that's what I said where I don't think
we're gonna get casts this year, but if we start
to hear that scuttle but of trades and everything posting stuff,
we will. And that's what's interesting today. And this is
why there's a few reasons why I always recovered the
Sea Tier stuff, because what happened was that's how it
started as Sea Tier person. I think it's like Apoclets
Horseman or something. That's a credit to them who put
it out. I guess technically there's a site called Giant
Freakin' Robot that put out we've talked about before that
has spammed just a bunch of bad rumors. But I
guess because it's a cry wolf scenario, no one believe
them and didn't spread around, but with this one, they
put it out and I this was news that I
think I would have added on regardless. I would have
because you know, I love Batman, love Batman, love Batman,
so I can't wait for more. But after that I
and I was gonna go live right away. If you
hear any kids, I apologize because usually when I do drestol,
you know it's home. They just got home, and I'm
just gonna add this little portion on. But when that happens,
I go, Okay. I was planning all record right away,
but I'll wait a little bit, just in case two
because I want to see more what the other people do,
and usually that tends to kind of stoke the fire
a little bit, right, and cinematographer, Yeah, that got confirmed
by Matt Reeves, But that's not gonna stoke the fire
as much. Right, I don't think there's gonna be anybody that's, oh,
I've heard differently or whatnot that happened. And now all
of them come out and now the S tiers meaning
Deadline variety. I don't know about Holly report, but I
know Riety and Deadline have confirmed that she is in
final talks now that's what is from the S tier, right,
the S tiers that Scarlett Johansson is in final talks
to play a character. Even Deadline, I know a variety wrote,
but Deadline's like, hey, these secrets are like the bat Cave.
I feel like they just don't want to put anything
out there and be wrong. Right, So that happened. But
the original source, a buckle of the Horsemen put out
that they would be a love interest, and we'll go
over some of the characters they could be and off
just scar Joe in general and then Jeff Snyder and
Grace Randolph, very controversial figures that we talk about before.
But they had put out that they had heard more
on the villainus side. Even Snyer's like, it could still
be a romantic person, but it's there's a villain aspect
to it, right, So let's just start with the mean
potatoes of Scarlett Johansson. Big shock. I would not have
guessed this and stock because she's not a great actress.
I think Scarlette Johansson can be a great actress. She can. Hell,
we've talked about this before. I think I've referred this
so many times. When Tress told you you could argue
that her performance in Her which is just a voice,
she's just a phone, is the best performance of that year.
I think she is a case that she on any
day can be great, but you kind of need the
right dance partner. Right. There's an expression in wrestling where
there's certain wrestlers that are they could work a match
with the broomstick and get them over and get them over,
meaning like people will be cheering, excite all that stuff. Right.
I think there's other people that need and this is
with other thing sports, acting, et cetera. But with this,
you know, wrestling acting comparisons particularly, there's someone that can
be great, but they can't carry everybody or every match
to something great, right. And that's why i'd say, you
look at Scott Johansson and I don't think Jurassic World
is her fault. I don't think it's like I don't
think it's awful even, right, But it's not like you
can't look and be like, oh, that's a that's a
great performance there, right. And that's because the script that's
the movie she's in, and there's a few those on
her record, right, Like I was just looking through IMDb.
There's a few that's like, h either the movie was
not great or she wasn't the greatest in it, right,
But then there are tons of others that she knocks
out of the park lost in translation, even her stuff
as Black Widow. There's some really good stuff that I
think about that scene an endgame where she's gotta sacrifice
her stuff, right, Like, there's some good stuff there. I
just spoke about her. I'm trying to think what off
the top of my head to Vicky Christina Barcelona, Like,
There's tons of performances you could pull from, right, So
I would never call her like a fifty fifty not
in there. You never know what you're gonna get like this,
And here's the thing with her and what we know
she can do in the right hands and with Matt Reeves.
I have no worries whatsoever because I do get it.
And we're gonna talk about the Ducas in the story.
Another reason why we cover the seats here. It's pretty
much confirmed Zoi Kravitz isn't in this right, So I
get from point of view where there's two reasons. There's
people from a character standpoint going, ah, this sucks, we downgrade.
I could maybe get that, but we'll talk about in
the second. If it's about the acting, I guess I
can kind of understand it from a certain point of view.
But I also think that, like kind of Zoi, Kratz
has less game tape, so I feel like she's been
in more great things because she's not had a bigger
a career as Scarlett Johnson. Right, Me and Emily were
talking about this because we're talking about the ages of them,
and it feels like, in this non offensive way, but
it feels like Scarlett Johnson's a lot older and passion,
but she's not. She's only two years older. It just
feels like that because she's been a child actress, kid
actress for a long time. Or even when he was
in Twilight and Harry Potter, he's still playing a bit
younger than he actually was, right, So it feels like
she's you know, I would have thought, like, you know,
five to seven years older, but to only two that
that's really nothing, especially in movie years. That's real, that's
nothing at all. So at first always gonna be a
older character. But I'm completely four it because I'm somebody
that Okay, I've said this before other than Paul Dane,
which I won't say it's like an obvious pick, but
it's one of those picks where it's like, Okay, Paul
Daniels the Riddler, I can see either version. If you
would have played the very comic bookie like Cartoony Jim
Carrey type, I could see. If you play an animated series,
I could see if you could play what he did,
I could see that, right. I've said this before, the
two that any and even Jeffrey Wright and even Zoe Kravitz,
but Zoi Kratz I didn't have the Bengal car but
still those those more in line. But where he gets
his casting right and why I trust him is because
two people I've said this before, so I'm sorry for readering,
but two people I would have never thought passing for
Batman at the time, and then I heard him, what, oh,
that's great. And the other one that's we're still waiting
to see more, which may we'll get more here is
Barry Keegan, his Joker. I didn't have that on my wavelength.
But when that rumor came out of oh he's in
some of the screenings, and it was a big hoop,
love who's playing that? Looked like it was a Joker.
To me, I was like, that is very inspired casting.
That is that is something I wouldn't have seen. But
it's not like uh, one to one, oh the Joker.
But it's like that's a take right there. Right, So
that's why this is like that where we don't know
the character yet. Right. So for me, we knew Passon
was playing Batman, we knew Daniel was playing or were knew, Uh,
we didn't know, but like the heavy rumor was, hey,
Barry's Joker and we could talk about that, right. I
think at first they cast him as like a cop
and then they got out there and they should never
put them on the screen or I get what they did,
but they should never have So this is tough because
we don't have that, and I was kind of waiting.
I waited for a little longer than I wanted to watch.
When this ends, Matt reezelche but we are gonna there
is a newscasting. More so, I'm gonna talk to the
boys about some of that's gonna want their opinions. And
obviously it's a making big moves, right this is I
think recently she talk about not doing the New Avengers
and how like, oh yeah, I kind of missed not
being a part of that cast group, but I'm very
happy not to go back to It's kind of like
didn't really sound like a foam well, like, oh, that's
tons of fun, but I was happy to have my time,
and she could still pop up in it, right, But
she ain't wasted any time. She's a Jurassic World, which
was what eight hundred millions somewhere in there, very big hit,
and then they're doing that the second one. We're gonna
talk about this tomorrow. She's doing Mike Flanagan's Exorcist and
now The Batman Part two. She's in a bunch of
franchises right now. So it shows whatever you know, great agent.
And it doesn't like not that she had any bombs
or anything, but it just means like she's still in demand.
And that's the thing where she is. You know, I
think you know a star. It's not gonna be like
there's no stars, right. We talk this with Glenn Palell
and Sidney Sweet. There's no nothing. You just sell a movie.
But she adds to that is star power. I would
argue that's bigger star power than anyone was in The Batman, right,
because pass and I'd say I would put Scarge Overpass,
and I'd say the last couple of years he's having
a good run as far as the Batman came out
and just other things. But it still would say co
I not put him over her? I think so? Right,
Like I just it's in the scenario I'd say, hey,
there's no movie stars. But it's like, let's say you
do five movies the exact same and they star Scarlett Johansson,
the scar star rob Pass, and what do you think
is gonna do better? Like financially probably Scarlet Johansson. Right,
So I Knowarine, she's bigger st than that. She's definitely
bigger than Zolways, bigger than Dano, She's bigger than Jeffrey Wright,
She's bigger than Circus. Yeah, like it's bigger than Barry,
Like she is definitely a bigger star. Where I felt
like with the first one, John Taro from a legacy standpoint,
may not but still star power. Absolutely, from that standpoint,
it felt like he was in a certain tier of
actors where of course people knew them, but they weren't
like the top top tier, right, where scar Johansson is
a top top tier. Like I said, she's in what
a dress? Let me just find out what that drastic
movie finished at. And also it's not just her that
pushes that forward, but people see a bunch of that
movie and she's in it. Right, eight hundred and sixty
eight million finished fourth right now off, So we have
stuff like Utopia and Avatar coming out and everything that
could trounce it. But still that's like a that's a
big star in there. And now, So for me, it's
Matt Reeves can try cast anybody. The only person I'd
ever question is and you'll hear about him later on
this episode, as if we cast Jared lettle One, because
you already joke over to think Matt, I need to
see it. But even Letto, I know, can be a
great actor at times, I at times very specific times.
At times I kind of trust anything Matt Reeves does here.
So it's that thing where I've seen people go Scar
Johans because I think they think of some of the
more just mainstream popular stuff, even little stuff like Don
John She's great and you know, if you haven't seen
that the movie Joseph or Levit directed. So for me,
it's a it's an actor or actress that can be great,
and it's Matt Reeves saying, hey, I think they're right
for this role, so sure, perfect And it's one of
those two where it's it's kind of off the wall
where I think about if we'll talk about the love
interest part a love interest with ra Pass and that's
interesting in a few ways. One that's a that is
a duo I would have never thought of, right, I
think there's just some duos on paper you see and
you go, oh, the chemistry's gonna be there. And I'm
not saying it's gonna be not it's not I'm not
saying it's not going to be there, but I just
feel like there's certain wavelengths that people go on where
you're like, okay, like the first time this is not
even romantic chemistry, right, but the first time The Rock
and Kevin Hart did a movie together, you're like, yeah,
I can see exactly how that's gonna work out, right. Well,
where this and I think this adds to it. This
is very intriguing to me, Like this is like a
pairing where it goes, oh, okay, Scarlet Johnson raw It
Pass and I think those are different wavelengths, but I'm
very fascinating to see how it goes. And in one
of the reports that they're saying that and this come
up multiple places. Maybe part of the reason why this
kind of helps with her career right now Jurassic World,
Dress World, to Exorcist, which I'm assuming she's gonna be
a mother or research or whatever it may be the protagonist.
Right it sounds like this will end up possibly being
a Viler rule or maybe it's like an ant Maybe
it's like kind of what Catwoman is, but more on
the villain the side. I don't know if she's the
big bad but multiple people said it is a villain role.
And as we looked at the Batman part one that
had Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman and Joker, right, and even Catwoman
did some things where she wasn't a villain but kind
of doing things against Bruce, I think she's more on
the villain side, and I think that's what the point
of is kind of like that's why she's doing like
another franchise a big role, because this is it's something different.
It's not just oh one other hero, oh onenother love interest,
because like I'm sure she can do that. As I
just said, she had fucking chemistry of walking Phoenix is
just your voice like a phone, right, So I have
no like I don't I'm not saying I won't buy them,
It's just that it's an interesting pairing where even passing
and Zoe Cassa k I kind of feel that energy, right,
So we'll see what happens now for characters wise, what's
gonna be interesting is so yeah, it was a potential
love interest with either a villain side or a villin reveal,
who knows. And that's where it's gonna be very interesting
if this is true when he announces her, what's it
gonna be right because and this is where we're gonna
have to talk, and this is where I'm happy to talk,
uh in this sense. So I'm gonna leave one character
to the end, so uh, let's actually let me just
I don't know, I'm gonna I'm gonna quickly talk about
the roles after. So if there's you don't really want
to be spoiled, you don't have to be. But I
think if you already know she's like on the villain side,
like if that's the reports, you kind of know, Okay,
if she's playing this character, maybe upfront she's not the villain,
but I'll leave her roles to the end here in
case you don't want to know anything in the context
that I might tell storyline for a combo. Grand made stuff, right,
So just a few other notes. The Batman is expected
to begin filming in late April twenty twenty six, So
there you go. Scar Johnson now expected to shoot Matt
Reeves as The Batman Part two and at Mike Flanagan's Exorcist.
Next year is a big year for her and that
helps the Exorcist too, man fuck like and good for them,
good for flannagain. I want that movie to obviously be well,
but do well because Flanne and I think really needs
a hit because Doctor Sleep didn't really perform and then
Knifa Chuck didn't either as far as financially right. But
and apparently that was the rumor where or not the
rumor that's in this report is that's where this announcement.
It's like it hasn't happened yet, but it's why that
was the last thing to work out. Iss she I
guess already committed to Exorcist. It's and to me that
that feels like again for the trust that Matt Reeves
would have if Matt if he's going to Scarlett Johansson
and he says, hey, I want you in this thing. Okay, great,
but I have done this project, have done this. I'm
sure it happens the whole time in Hollywood, right, but
there might be times where they go, Okay, that sucks,
thanks for time. Maybe in the future will work together.
Right to me, this show's like, okay, let's work this
all out so we can figure it out to make
sure it's all go to me. That screams that and
who knows. May we're in a situation where someone has
already passing the role. But at least for Scarlett Johansson,
it's a situation where Matt Reeves wants her for this role.
So again, trust Matt Reeves. Let's see yeah, in fishing
and final talks, let's see here, I'm trying to see
if there's anything else. Okay, So before we get to
the roles that she could potentially be, we talked about this.
I alluded to this. Zoe Kravitt is currently non expected
to return it to Selena Kyle, so that could mean
a few things, right, that could mean just as far
as the big role she might not be a so
I don't think she is. We've heard this a bunch.
This is where my point is again why we always
cover the Sea Tiers stuff, because that's where it came out.
And the Sea Tier stuff was, Hey, it doesn't look
like she's in this movie, and then it was something
that could have been alive. But then her agent told
press said, hey, don't ask about the Batman too. She's
not in it, right, And that's why we always talk
about the scenarios of what is And now it's looking
to be true that doesn't look like she's in this
to a massive role, in the role where it's like
the Batman. Maybe she has a scene or two, and
I would like that. I'm with Mike and Mad we
were talking about that where I was under the impression
when you started out, especially when they said, hey, this
isn't katwill missus Selena Kyle. I was under the impression that, oh,
that's gonna be awesome. We're gonna get a whole tres
kind of duology, right of seeing Batman become more Batman
and Selena Kyle become Catwoman. Kind of that that energy
and origin of that character doesn't look like that's the
thing so one as again, that's why we always talk
about stars and stuff. Two, I still think who knows
what's gonna happen, and Mike was seeing the discord, I agree,
just like later on this episode, I say, it's crazy
where Matt Reees is doing a movie, he doesn't know
if he's gonna get the third James Gunn is doing
a movie, doesn't know if he's gonna get you know,
a sequel, Demand tomorrow or Superman two properly and same
thing we may never properly see. Zoe Kravitz says Selena
Kyle slash Catwoman ever again, which is kind of nuts
if you ask me right, like, this is really great performance.
I still think, and I've said this for many years.
I said this especially after Penguin and many times, especially
after the Penguin finale, I think if Matt has his
brothers and if it goes the way he wants and
could have that happen, I think Zoe Kravit slash Catwoman
Selena Kyle will get a show HBO, Max, HBO fucking
Paramount plus wherever it's gonna be Netflix, she will get
a show because especially that story. And I think the
tip off to me, like really, so, as far as
putting to this eras, we'll just say that if you
haven't seen The Penguin, there's a character that directly ties
to Selena Cole that Selena Cole's in conversations with. That's
all I'll say. It's pretty obvious even if you've not
watched the show it is. But in case someone hasn't
seen it, there you go, and it feels like pretty
much a setup to more to follow, right, But then
Matt Reeves said that character is not not even slyn
co the other character is not in Batman Part two,
let's get ahead a couple of seconds, Sophia fl Cone
her sister. So to me, it's like if they let
this thread open, which they didn't need to write, that
could have just been something they could have closed that
storyline loop and moved on. They left a somewhat cliffhanger
for this storyline and then not to address in the
Batman two. Which also makes sense because this is in
the TV show where we've talked about before the MCU
and their shows. Maybe people weren't watching the shows to
the movies, right, They're watching movies to the movies, but
the show that was too much. I've been asked for them.
That would make so much sense to cover a storyline
from a TV show and a kind of follow up
from the Penguin to Catwoman in the TV show, right,
So to me, when there's smoking fire, it's just a
question of do they get it that I don't fucking know.
I don't even know if we're getting the Batman Part
two three, right, So that's super up in the air.
We'll never really know. But yeah, I'm not surprised because
we just had heard stuff about this. I am surprised
if you would ask me directly after the Batman Part two, Yes,
and I'm I bummed about it. Sure, I hope. I
think she'll definitely be mentioned. I hope she still has
a scene or two. I definitely wanted her the whole way.
I liked that idea of what we kind of all thought,
or a lot of us thought of seeing her evolved
throughout the time too, and then Batman three being Catwoman,
and I think she would come back though. I think
now if we get Batman three, that character will come
back and it will have a very big impact because
she's been missing for a little while. So we'll see
so roles, so none of these roles were going to
talk about at the first are spoilery, so you are safe.
And again I think it's spoiling the sense that I
think you'll find out about them by time and the
movie comes out. But before it came out, there was
the two roles were like Vicky Vale, which now and
here's I'll throw these all together, Vicky Vale, Julian Madison,
and then an unknown character right all these Vicky Vail,
especially in one of the video games, she was just like, Oh,
I'm a Bruce love interest, you know, looking to see
what's up with Bruce. She was a full on bad
guy that did this whole storyline where it was like
an else world. It's the Telltale games and it was
tons of fun. That was the big reveal that she
was the bad guy and they canna be doing that.
Julie Madison is that sometimes Bruce Wayne's fiance. It's kind
of gone back and forth and throughout the years as
far as like does he like I think there's been
stories where he does love her, and then other stories
where she's kind of like a cover and especially like
in the Golden Age Old time stuff, like she's a
character that in two thousand and thirty four whatever, she's
becoming public domain because she's a rant like Bruce is
engaged to her very early on, like the first or
two issues of Batman, right, So that that is a
character that sure, I guess, and you could Aweso do
an amalgamation of some characters to talk about, but she
was the fiance they break up villain and even then
an unknown character, right, I don't think so. I think
that with all the characters in Penguin and Batman, they
did that great thing where even little stuff is like, oh,
we're gonna make this a character that we're never gonna
use somewhere else, but it'd be great if we just
add this name in there, because there's that legacy that
character and it fits there. Right, So I think it
could be. I'm gonna if you were asked me, gun
to my head, is it gonna be an unknown character,
I'd say no, I'd say, matt Reeese is using something
from the combooks animation. But I wouldn't have guessed that
Catwoman wouldn't be in the sequel, and I wouldn't have guessed, like,
I don't know if you would have shown me like
let me say, let's look at the top ten movies. Right,
maybe not Minecraft, but like if you would have shown
me a list of these movies, let's say the top
top fourteen here, right, If you would have given me
these movies, then I we would have said, Hey, what
actress is in the Batman? Jassic Girl? I probably have said, No,
how to train your drain came? Maybe someone in there
f one, Yeah, sure, Carrie Coon Utopia came. Maybe there's
a voice not Soupman mission impossible. Yeah, maybe Haley Atwell
or Vanessa Kirby or someone else. Sure, Wicked for good,
sure conjuring last, right, sure I could see fear from
me again there, like out of even just like this
direct list of biggest movies. I don't think I would
have had Scargo in there, right, So maybe this is
just an unknown, like a completely new character. Now there's
the two kind of There's the I think the obvious
one and then the one that people are very much
fancasting that are of a certain age. And I am
right there in that camp, and I already put in
the discord. Uh. The obvious one is poison Ivy. Right,
She's a villain, big character, not necessarily a love interest
of Bruce Wayne, like like a well known one. She
has like duped and more dated Bruce Wayne and stuff,
but it's not like a big time one, right. And
that's where I will say as well for this character,
because Maddie, I'll bring one of your quotes. He said,
uh uh, now, I'll give his playboy bass and his cargo.
Hell yeah, And then I dropped a gift of a
dog crime like, no, this is more like Bason hooking
up because that's the thing he's not. That's where stuff,
because I guess it could be a situation where he's
become the playboy, looks up a scargo and she's the
bad guy. Right. That's kind of similar to Talian Dark
Knight Rises. And that's another thing too I brought up
in the discord where I could see Catwoman not being
in this because if you don't have a really big
role for Catwoman, if she's just kind of around, then
it becomes like The Dark Knight Rises, where she's the
fifth most important character, and Selena Kyle should never be that.
To me, she's the second or third most important character
in the Batman, I would say the second, and then
maybe Riddler Gordon even Gordon might be before Riddler, right,
but she's in that the Mount Rushmore. Once you slip
off of that and your phone behind. I love The
Dark Night Rises, you know, I have issues with like
other people, but I love that movie and I think
Ann Hathaway is great at it, and I actually think
her and Christian Bellison good chemistry. But I don't think
she's used particularly well, and she kind of gets put off,
put off to the side. For me, I don't need
that situation with Zoe. Obviously, I would still like to
have her in it, but I could see from that
perspective of I don't have anything juicy it is, and
she's just there just to have her. So Poison Ivy,
I just I don't see it with the world Matt
Reeves is set up. I've said this before when people
talk of corvals mister Freeze, I think oftestly you can
do something where poison Ivy, Poison Ivy, Poison Ivy is
a terrorist. It's all about plants and trying to do
good for the world. And I understand that you can
do a vast change, just like mister frees and the
Amman series was a vast change, right, So I'm saying,
if it's a if if I were to I talked
about in the earlier earlier in the episode, if I
were sit down sushi with Matt Reeves and he says, hey,
I'm doing Poison Ivy, but it's gonna be a huge change,
radical change on the character. Almost like look at Bain
and the Nole movies, right, like Big Juice Up Guy
and Venom Steroids. Now he's just a big criminal who
is very muscle and has the skin condition, right, so
you could you could do that. So that's what I'm saying.
If it is, I'm just it's not Poison Ivy comic bookie,
you know, controling, plants, all that stuff, And with Bain,
I don't think it hurt. I think there would be
a little bit of a disappointment people if you got
that there. I would much rather Poison Ivy be in
the James Gun Batman where she can just pop off
like an arc of a signed with a mass of
like Benus, fly Trap, Boss Bollot. You know sais one.
Now there's the one that I want the most. Miss
Andrea Boman loved that name. Andrea. I tried to pitch
it for one of the twins, Emily did not like
the name, So I'm sorry if you did not like
the If you have that name, my wife did not
like it, but I I love the name and I
tried but it didn't happen. Just gonna take a drink
the water before I break this down, and then so
I'll say, Also, if you know the other thing about
Andrea Bomant or the Mask of Phantasm, and you don't
want to be spoiled about certain plot beats, then I
would say about now, or just skip ahead, like five
minutes to the next thing. But I don't think it's anything. One,
he's not gonna adapt it one to one, and two
it's not gonna be anything you're not gonna hear for
the next few years. If this is true, this might
not even be true, right, So quick water break if
you want to jump now the time. So Andrea Bomat,
she's again speaking a peple that are engaged. She is
from mass the Phantasm. So, like Harley Quinn, a character
if she were in this word to come from the
animated series, she has transitioned into common books and been
there and whatnot. So I think the Fantasm was a
character from the combooks, but they kind of adapted quite
a bit and changed it a lot for the Batman
Animated series, and it is Bruce in the animated series
is Bruce Wayne's first love. He is in the middle
of training to become Batman. He's getting ready and he
meets Andrea Baoumont, who he falls in love with, and
they both don't plan that because she has other plans
in her life going on, and it's to the point
where he's almost ready to give up, not even starting
the bad thing, he's just starting. Then't you have his
costume And it's kind of like she's the last ditch effort,
like she's the one thing that maybe could stop him
from taking the sleep. But then something happens. She goes
missing and he takes the leap, and then what happens is, Oh,
I got the chills because mass the phantasm again. I
talk about Batman the Animated series later on the episode,
We're gonna be reviewing this movie, so I cannot wait.
What happens is is her dad owes a bunch of
money to loan sharks and yet Da Da da and
gets killed by the mobster. She comes back years later,
very similar to Bruce Wayne where she's all souped up, trained,
ready to go, and the mass of the phanfasm for
act one and Act two, it's and a little longer
is portrayed us who is this mysterious figure and they
get some red hearings, but who is this mysterious figure?
But then it's revealed to be Andrea Beaumont, right, and
it's not. It doesn't start like a Supervicious where I'm
taking Batman Dad. She's kind of like these people are
dirt begs, there's scumbags. Look what they did. And she
says the line like look what they've done to us,
like she is trying, and that's where it does hit
similar beats. And I think that does work to the
Selena Kyle thing because and this is where it could
work for in Batman Part three if we were to
get it. Selena Kyle went to shoot you know, Falcone,
he did Sotopper and she stopped right. This is a
situation of someone if they do that storyline where it's
someone he did love, and that could kind of fit
what passes them maybe even though I think he's too
fucked to be like, oh he was engaged and almost
stopped being Batman. Maybe that was it. Maybe she was
the one light and then things went ryan. That's why
he's even more darker. Right, But what if this situation
where this is a woman he likes, loves, fancies, and
she doesn't stop killing, she's going for it, where like
Selena still saw a line and walked back. So that's
where you could draw the line. Oh, Selena is the
one for Bruce, right, if they get that far, I
my doubts. But with Andrea Boemon and especially we didn't
get a lot. I guess that you want to be
careful because the Dark Knight's all about not trying to kill.
You don't want to just completely reado that storyline. But
in the first Batman they only tiptoe and talked about
it a little bit. It was still in big moments,
but it wasn't the core issue of it. They could
make that the core issue of this, I'm not sure
as well. I guess you could introduce Rupert Thorn and
Cheeky Hines and all this stuff, But like I a
lot of the mobsters are gone, like Carmine's gone, and
Alberto's gone and a Salvator Maroni's gone. So I guess
you just Injuce a bunch of new mobsters, you could
do that? So do I actually one? Do I think
Scart Johans could do that? Yes, And I think that'd
be a fun That is the villain role, especially too
if people don't know. I don't think they would do
this because I think it just doesn't fit with where
they are. And that's where I don't think it is
this but in the comment or in the animated show,
before the Joker, like he's just Jack Nay Pierre. Of course,
in that before it becomes the Joker is a hit man.
He's the one that kills her dad. Of so she
goes after all the people that hired but kills him
and she the last target is the Joker. Wouldn't that
Oh I got chills. Wouldn't that be another great way
because in the Phantasm, Joker has some big set pieces,
but he's not the main villain, and he pops in
and out with Barry and how he was in the
first one. Imagine that where Andrea Beaumont somehow, whether it's
her pace one, gets Joker to break out of prison
and Batman's having to protect the Joker. Especially this Joker
was super fucked up, right, messed up. Mat says he
was the old origin form. What if that was the case,
whereas passn't having to protect the Joker from phantasm or
it's a three way fight, whatever it may be. I
don't know if they would go that far. I think
the thing with the animated series that works is the
Joker's already established a lot, and then you bring them
back for this with Barry's Joker, like you need a
movie for himself. But maybe that's the lead up, right,
is you meet them a little bit in part one
part two, it's the situation where it's all like, it's
very intense and it's awkward, and Batman does save them.
So then in part three you get the big Okay,
we get to see the Joker. I don't know if
they would do that, And at the same time, I
don't know if they would they're gonna do this. I
really don't know if I'm a betting man, right, Like
the storyline sounds similar. It's someone in love with Bruce
and takes a villainous turn. That is Andrea Momont That's
what happens. But to me, it's almost like it could
just be a made up character. Right. It could be
a maybe it's a gender flip to one. Maybe she's
playing fucking I don't know, not Harley Dent. But I
don't know what's another h Harle I don't know about.
Maybe it's something gender flipped right, which could be cool
as well too, So I it all depends on the character,
but not anybody. That's like again, if they made a
female Harvey Dan, I would be like, oh my god,
it's like, no, we're fine people, we got much bigger
world issues to worry about. Go fucking sit down, take
a cup of water and be cool. Okay, so it fits.
I don't want to get too excited all the lines
and the rooms, but all the lines point to that way.
But again, maybe it is we just wake up. Its
Pamela eyes icily right, and it is a full change
up and stuff. So I don't know if it is
Andrea Beaumont, I think that would fit. I wonder with flashbacks.
Luckily they both look young enough because the flashbacks are
I think it's like I could be wrong. Maybe it's
five years, ten years. Maybe it's like that, but it's
when they're younger, like when they meet and get engaged
everything right, So Yeah, I'd be very curious to see
what it could be. And maybe there's other people are
not thinking. I don't think it's Tally, but maybe there's
other people out there. I know there's someone from Earth
one people been throwing out. So uh, yeah, it's very interesting.
Would not have thought this would be the character, would
not have thought it would have been the route we're
going or this sort of the actress. But yeah, no,
it's a it's interesting. I'm very curious to see. Yeah,
I'm just trying to see, look if there's anything more
that popped up or anything like that. But yeah, I'm
hoping we get that fucking Matt Reeves gift in the
next twenty four hours. Yeah. No, Yeah, I'm just very
excited that we're getting casting, we're getting rumors, we're getting stuff.
I just yeah, it's a good time because you talked
about or you can hear me talk about coming up
in the next part. How I'm just very excited to
get to that point, and it is exciting to talk
about these scenarios and fucking here we are after how
long we've been waiting for The Batman. This movie came
on twenty twenty two. We're here so let me know
we're still gonna talk about this, so I'll probably put
this in the Geek first notes as well. So if
you have any questions or scenarios or anything to do
with the casting or Scarret Johansson or anything about Zway Crabits,
put it in the comments for tomorrow on Patroon. I
will make that post for the news to me myself
and Taylor or he just me and myself and Taylor,
but me, myself, Taylor, and Kirkland. So yeah, we'll definitely
get their pains on them. I'd like to hear their
thoughts of like maybe they think of poison if you
could work or whatever. I'll give them some of these scenarios.
But yes, ladies, gentlemen, very exciting time. We're getting fucking
Batman two news. We're getting photography news which I'm gonna
throw to right now. Enjoy the rest of Travis Told You. Hell,
ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to Travis Told You.
It is December third, twenty twenty five. My day six
is we're in the endgame now for the end of
the year, right, I know, I just how those on Monday,
but just just saying that out loud. It just feels
kind of weird, you know. I hope everybody good reminder.
I did some of this on Monday and a little
bit actor a good reminder everybody make sure you get
that Christmas shopping done. If you haven't for giving one
the I four, you don't do that. Yeah. Luckily today
we've got a very Batman centric show, heavy show. I
guess if you're also in the DC stuff, it's kind
of that too. We're talking about Batman. It's more just
a salvatory run. You know. Dramatic will appreciate this as well.
We're getting the Matt Reeves back gifts back. So yeah,
it's gonna be very fun to talk about kind of
what that means. What they got yesterday. I get some
news with Batman. You've got some rumors. It's very low
seats here, but more just heat to the fire as
far as the Robin bringing the Bold stuff. And then
we got some other terrible rumor. Like I don't know.
It's an interesting day and an interesting time for DC.
And luckily I do some Patreon questions as well. I'm
gonna try and get to them if I have the time.
A big shout out to Clay and a couple other
people that you know ahead of time sent me the
questions and like, oh, because I said Wednesday might be
an evergreen show, right, But luckily, you know, check out
Weekly Geek, Dylan and kirkle and talked about hell Diver
vers and Kill Bill three and then all ran on
Thursday because there's lots of trailers drop and I think
there's something else dropping to on the Thursday. That's that's
why it's like, okay, we're covered there. So yeah, luckily,
this stuff just kind of broke. And I don't know
how much of the boys I have to say about
the cinhotographer, which you know, I you know, I could
speak about Batman every day. I could have you know,
back in the day. It didn't work out because we
got too busy, But Greg and I used to do Batman.
You complete me right, We did that podcast, did a
couple episodes. Our plan was do it monthly and then
we just busy different times, et cetera. It was tough
to schedule, but I easily could do a showtime about
Batman all the time. So it's great to get some
actual news, like news like there's rumors in this episode today,
but the actual news news. But yeah, we got a
newscasting more that's gonna be meet Kirkland and Taylor. Dylan's
off doing something and then yeah, still got it going
on a bunch of stuff. So check out. If you
are a patron, now check out on the of your
producer story. The Christmas Retrospective poll should be live either
it's the live now like it should be by time
if you're listening to the audio for sure. If you're
live right now, it should be. I don't know for sure.
I thought I said at a certain time, but I
can't remember what the Let me quickly rattle off the
choices because it's gonna be a two day poll, so
we have some time to watch the movie off because
we record that next Wednesday. Okay, so it is up.
That's good. So the choices this year are let's see here,
Dead Bang, The Grinch, two thousand and one, Class Crampis,
It's a Wonderful Life, The Santa Claus and Silent Night,
Deadly Night. Luckily there's like a few on here. I
think I'd be kind of happy with them all. I'll
just say it's I'll say, just in general, right, the
Grinch and Santa Claus. I'll always say, I don't think
there's anything harder to review. Then luckily these are Christmas
Oorenton and Christmas themes, so we got that going on
as well. But there's nothing harder to review to me
than a good comedy because there's lots of you tub
about the structure of the character, but just stuff that's
making you laugh, et cetera. That's why it's it's tough
because that's all subjective, right, So that's one of the
hardest things to ever do when we get those retrospective
but it's a good challenge. And plus those movies are older.
That's the hardest on it's of new comedy. And then
it's there's no trivia anything like that, right, But yeah,
check out for that. We'll be doing that poll for
about two days and then we'll review that next week.
And yeah, lots of good stuff. Check out the discord.
We're always in there chat about stuff, stranger things, football, wrestling,
you know, check out the gimmick that just happened. But yeah,
let's not waste any time because we got a few
things to talk about here. And luckily, yeah, thank you
everyone that did send in some evergreen topics and ideas.
I'll get to some and some of the patroon questions there.
If I don't, I'll kick it to Monday, because as
I said, Monday there is for a show for sure.
Wednesday is a TVD because I got some days off because,
as I've talked about before, Gwen has the Nutcracker next weekend.
I have not mentally prepared myself to sit through the Nutcracker.
We got a break last year because all through the
twins were here, so Gwen wasn't doing it. But we
got to break last year. And of course I enjoy
the Nutcracker. I enjoy watching Gwen dance and do all
that stuff. That's fine, but the prom is she there's
many times where she's off the stage right she plays
the sugar plumb and the mouse is here. So luckily
it's two roles, so I'll see her multi times. But
it's just not a store not Cracker in general. I
don't love, you know, so then when we got to
watch it every year, but you know, it's great to
see her, that's the high. The first year, I can't
remember what the technical role is, but it's like the
opening party and she played one of the little girls
and I think I tell this podcast before, so if
you're newer is I was just surprised how good she did,
Like it was I can't remember at the age, it
was like five or six somewhere in there, and the
amount of it, like I felt like she had more
instructions to do then than she does now because now
it's like dances and you know there's routines, but that's
like that was more the acting side, and man, it
just blew me away and I remember like breaking down
just being so proud. So every years senior progress is great.
So that's why I trist told you next week if
there is no episode, I'll reiterate again on the Monday,
but I'll think, I gotta look at the schedule because her,
that's why I'm off those days so then I can
watch the twins and La so then uh Emi can
take her there. And I know you might be being, oh, why,
like that's usually after no no nutcrackers, skipping the the
training or the rehearsals. The three days before, it's a
bunch all over the place, like multiple times a day
throughout the day, skipping school. So that's why. So we'll see.
But yeah, again, thank you for everyone said to Evergreen
and even though maybe I'll pre record it because I
did want to talk about I was gonna answer the questions,
but another evergreen thing I had. We're just gonna be talking.
You know. People might not like this. You know, people
might think, oh, I don't tune any heat first for this,
but Tras told you sometimes there's gonna be topics that
are just centric in me. We're just gonna be about
life and just like just enjoy it and appreciate it.
I'll get into more next week. And I'm because I'm
gonna use this to promote the show too, And this
is not you know, I always appreciate it when I
say this, and I still get a message, but no
one has to. There's a family stuff that's you know,
one of my family members. They're significant other and some
I'm close to it. I'm not gonna give many details
because they're very private. I'm not gonna say who it is.
They're very private. They don't even post their kids on
social media. But it's more for the point of they're
about to go through like a super very tear rible time.
And all I'm saying is, obviously we all have issues
and problems out there, and people if it's like if
you don't have a job or like some big issues
that I understand, there's always some big stuff going on.
But I'm telling everybody that has the little day issues,
that's pretty good, pretty you know, situated. But those little
day issues, whether it's stress at work or stress at
home or even stuff at family, you know, just appreciate
all as much as you can. Because man, just like that,
like life can change. And I had that feeling. I'll
talk about more on that Evergreen one, but just you know,
it was a night where we were putting up the tree,
and the tree the base is too small, so it
keeps following everything like that, and the girls were disappointed
because I said, Okay, well we can't do the tree
this time, and then they got those like moody and whatnot.
And then at the end of the night, I got
that news. And it's just like, man, all my issues
as far as this or kids don't want to brush
your teeth this and that, it's just like and I
try to do that myself all the time, right because
me and I might talk about because I think we
all go through that right of like working and scheduling
life and all this stuff that happens or I gotta
do this, but that's like man, like another good reminder
of my problems are just so and I some of
the tay our problems are so minute. There's of course
ways in life things could be better about some saying everybody,
especially around the time, I enjoy life. And if if
you're not right now, obviously talk to friends. People are
out there. But also just like find something found a
find a hobby, doesn't matter if it's just video games
or watching sports or going for a hike, like whatever
it may be. So just appreciate what you got going on.
If you had little problems. If you got the big problems,
then obviously that's always tough. I'm wishing the best work
your way through it. But you know, right now, luckily
myself don't have any of those other than you know,
this is now a situation and it's just you know,
and it doesn't affect you know, technically my direct family
right with Emily and the kids. It's just that it's
just just awful times you know, can happen, just change,
and it doesn't matter that the people in my family
that's happening to love them like not that anybody, but
it's like, you know, like I got an not call that, like, yeah,
maybe he wasn't the greatest, you know, like the great
I wouldn't wish these things upon him. But it's just like, okay,
you know how it's this situation where super bad things
are happening to very like, you know, my whole life,
great person and that person in their life great person.
And it's just like, man, especially with that and watching
six of You on as I talk about a couple
of geek verses ago, it's just like, it doesn't matter.
You'd be the nicest, you know, best person you know,
and this is definitely one of the best people I've
known my whole life growing up, and just like this
shit like super shit deal, you know, And it's just
so just appreciate the time you got. Appreciate the good
things you do right now because things also can turn
so right now if things are going good for you
in life, take a moment appreciate that, and let's talk
about the little things in life that can make us happy.
The Batman. Let's finally get into so The Batman Part two.
So I kind of thought this might be happening. This
is more I want to say inside Baseball if you're
listening to this, right, but I'm sure lots of people
are more expecting the hey, I want to you know,
the casting news, villain news, et cetera. Right, I do
understand that, but this is the thing we're gonna be
getting too. That not today, not today, but it is
in the near future. Because if people don't know, if
they weren't around in that era of the Batman, uh,
you know, part one casting, there would be either Reeves
would I think there was a couple of times where
there was a port and he would confirm it, but
most of the time it was just, hey, it was
gift of ra pass them from Good Life, gift of
Zoe Krats from High Fideli, gift of John Deturo from God.
We just reviewed it this year, the Big Lebowski, right,
and that that's a fun thing where there's no press release.
It's not Comic Con this and that, but a drum
up excitement. Right because now after yesterday, I turned those
notifications on for Matt reef because that was the best
when you would get a tweet, see what it's from
Matt Reeves and it's just a gift too. If it's
just an image that's like, oh, what is this? Because
usually he would respond after a quote tweet and talk
about who's playing who? But yeah, and that's what happened yesterday.
Where for a while it's gone back and forth. If
the if the Greg Frasier, the person who is the
director of photography the first go around the Dune has
an Oscar, amazing town. Right, you look at a lot
of his work. I look at the Batman. Right to me,
the Batman is probably the now I think visually it
is the best Batman movie. I think I've said this
before because I'm at a crossroads with it so much
right where I still I think I'm always it's gonna
take a hard thing to change it, but I think
I'm always just gonna say that Dark Knight's my favorite
movie of all time, just for many reasons. I love
it as a movie, I can name you all these
reasons why it's great, but also just inspired a lot
of things in my life right a lot of trajectory
I'm trying to go right down and the Batman. That's
where stuff like even with our top ten, a spoiler
I couldn't put in there because it's still like it's
still newer, but it's just like it's tough to like
think about having two Batman's in there, right because I
know I bring a lot of bias in there, because
it's like my whole life growing up was Batman. One
of my first words was Batman as a kid, like
I am Batman's running through the blood right. So for me,
the what I always say though now is I still
think Dark Knight is the technically better movie. It's still
my favorite movie, you know that can And that's the
thing what I love about The Dark Knight versus The Batman.
To me, it's a vibes. It's like, what type of
vibes are you in for? I will always say and
whatever put like, you know, puts it over just a
little bit, as much as I love Dano and not
gonna agree with anything Tarantino says much I love Dano,
Heath Ledger in the Dark Knight kind of always puts
it a little bit over, you know, But I will
still say that Batman is the best Batman movie we've gotten, right,
And a lot of that had to do with the look.
I would say easily, not easily, but like I would say,
at least solidly number one. The batman's the best looking
batman and we've gone it's incredible, has a style, has
some stuff that I thought I wouldn't love at the beginning,
but then I grew to like. So that's where it's okay.
Is Greg Fraser gonna come back? And he'd kind of
humed and hon. I don't know if it's like because
I think he's shooting Dune three. I don't know, but
it sounds like it is like a scheduling thing, not
like any you know, issues or anything like that. Right,
So the person he's getting replaced with is let me
pulled up here is Eric Messerschmidt. Hopefully I didn't screw
that up. Oh every Travis told you I swear a
net cracktic. It's it's probably because I'm the head straight
and I'm looking here and it just acts up. So
he's a cinematographer of Mine Hunter and then most not
most importantly, but I'd say it's the most comparable one
as a killer, So he's gonna be the cinematographer here.
He is also an Academy War winner for my least
favorite David Fincher film, I Guess Next to Alien three
is mank not a bad movie. I just did not
enjoy my time with it, you know, shot to cock
Tuckle who does love it. But for example, this was funny.
This was going around. I have a couple of tweets
to share from somebody in March. They were talking about
they're comparing The Killer, which the Killer obviously not his movie,
but like it's coming up right now because a cinematographer, right,
and does have similar vibes. But if you look at this,
if you're the visual person, it's two shots of Batman,
you know, Bruce's eye when he's ridding the bike, and
then it's the Killer doing the same thing where it's
Michael Fastbenner's eye and then the bike very similar. And
then I will pull up another one too, which like
this has gone around a bunch of places, but it
is kind of crazy. And that's where I say, like
it is a good fit for I'm with Maddie. When
we got that news, it was kind of and many
other people's kind of a disappointment, right, But if you
look at this, like look at the look at the
visuals here and I'll have this up while I'm talking
here for me, if you and and some people have
this as a knock. I don't, but I kind of
understand it. But like, look at that first shot. The
depth perception not exactly the same. But Batman or the
Batman has a lot of that, like the beginning of
the movie, right when Ridler knocks out that guy and
the hammer falls or whatever, the carpet the rug Tucker,
remember when that falls, and it's kind of in a
certain point of view, same thing Ridler in the car,
but just the vibe of the killer the shots, and again,
people might have this as a negative, but to me,
I'm fine because I love the look of it. A
lot of people said, hey, it kind of looks like
Fincher light, right, It's like we didn't get David Vincher directing,
but we got this movie. And even even the like
the quality of the movie and the pacing, some of
the script and whatnot, it feels a little bit like
a Fincher movie, right, And that's completely fine because that's great.
And even then I think we've heard rumors of no,
I guess it was Aaronofski, right, that was his. He
was doing the very street level Batman. But there's even
just story beats that you feel could have been similar
to what we got from Fincher, and that, to me
is fine. Directors cann have similarities. I don't think it'd
be different if the Matt if Matt Reeves's whole filmography
was like a David Fincher ripoff, but between apes and
between what is it let me in or yeah, let
me in? Not to let the right one in that's
the original one. It's not like his whole career is
just oh, I'm trying to be David Fincher, right. I
think it's just that the vibe that he felt for
Batman fits into similar like a Fincher aesthetic, and you
have this guy who did My Hunter Fincher Killer Fincher
and then won the Officer for so to me, I
don't think he's sitting down with like, oh I lost
Greg Fraser, let's see who's worked with Dave Fincher the most. No,
I think it's just like, Hey, this is the aesthetic
I want to go for in the Batman, who has
most of that. Worgan obviously could come down scheduling everything that.
Maybe there's other people he talked to and it couldn't
work out. But to me, it's one of these things
where it's not just because no, I didn't think Greg
Fraser was doing Dune I thought Greg Fraser. I thought
the guy who did La La Land is doing Dune three.
Let's see cinematographer. Yeah, line of sand greens. I don't
know what is Greg Fraser working on right now, Like
I know it's gonna be something, but let's see, just
shot the creator recently? What has he got upcoming? He
project Hail Mary, but that's gonna be out next year
and done, So that kind of sucks. I thought it
was the Dune thing that made sense. But even then
to that extent, right to go to Dune two, to
Doune three, Greg Fraser versus that guy, you know, great
style on Law of the Land, of the stuff he's
worked on. But let me get the guy's actual name
before I just say that guy, let's see a line
of sand greine. Like, that's a very different style, right,
And people have said that kind of works because I've
never read the Doom books. That kind of works for
the Dune fault, for it to have a different aesthetic style.
And you could have that, right if we were to
get not Greg Fraser but someone else, you go, oh
maybe because they're going this route with the story or
the character. That's the rut we're gonna go. But it
seems like he mean, Matt Reason company want to keep
this vibe in this field, right, So if you are
seems like this is the kind of the perfect guy
to do it. Now, I'm sure. Maybe it's tough because
we have more game tape on Greg Fraser. We've seen
a lot more he's done. There is a possibility where yes,
movie comes out and it feels like it's Greg Fraser
light right, Like people go, oh, it's good, but it's
not like it was the first ground Who knows. I'm
hoping it's just that it is similar because I want
to keep the aesthetic and there's still great shots. I
have faith because the stuff in The Killer looks great,
so I have faith that they and he can do that.
So yeah, we'll have to see what happens. I'm excited.
But that's what I'm most excited about is Jeff Snyer
put this out. I'd say it's like a B tear
Scooper also controversial figure in the kind of scooping game.
But I don't really care about that. I just report
the news. I don't care what like, I'm not I
don't have a favorite Scooper. Iun have that. We just
give the news and say, hey, what tiar it is right.
He put it out there and matt Reeves said it
was true, which is interesting because I feel like Gun
does it a lot where he'll say something's true or
not true. But Matt Reevees is doing that, which is
good because it is his project. And then he dropped
the Appatino gift that that's a true story. So that's
where to me, we are nearing. I think we've heard
that they're shooting because even then last week there a
report came out that they're supposedly casting for extras. It
was an unlisted production, but it was a massive production
and it was in Glassgow. Like it all lines up too, Okay,
clearly that's the Batman looking for extras, right, So it
all lines up to that. So we are getting closer
and closer to that. It's just a question of are
we gonna get it by years? And I don't know.
I think the rumors are shooting in April, so I
feel like I don't know because I think Maddie's asking
this before. I think at one point I was leaning yes,
but obviously we've only got a month left, right, but
this tweet could be the whole. Hey, he's starting to
do some Floodgate stuff, right, he's leaking it not leaking,
but he's revealing some stuff, right. So I wonder if
it's gonna be more like this, where it's gonna be
more details or production people and then the cast comes
later on. But it feels like we're hearing this, We're
hearing rumblins of other people and rumors. So it's just
a good time and I cannot wait for that first
gift that we get where it's give an actor name
and then what the character is, you know, and it's
gonna be exciting time. It's uh and I feel like
with the last go around. This is why I still
feel like it's a little early on and I could
be wrong. But why now I lean towards twenty twenty
six is because remember when we heard about Jonah Hill
going for the Riddler, right and then maybe Penguin whatnot?
We had heard some trades report on that first and
then he confirmed the Riddler casting with Dan o Akay
Edward Nashon on Twitter on X what do we want
to call it at that time, right, So that's why
I still feel like we're probably due for one or
two scuttle but like whether it is the Trades or
whether it is like tomorrow, I'm saving the news for
the boys because I can't talk about a little bit.
But like the Brainiac, right, there's like a short list
between the guy from Northman, Sam Rockwell Matt Smith for
who's gonna play Brainiac. And I feel the same thing
that we've heard before the other Trades and Scoopers. When
we get around the casting, that's when we start to
leak and hear some names. So Brainiac Brainiac. I think
we could hear before the end of the year. I
really do, because we've heard multiple scuttle butts on that.
With Batman, we've not really heard much. Really. I covered
a couple of weeks ago where there was like a
talk about you know, Auscar Isaac, but there's not been
and I guess there was that other Archam actor to
Rey or his name, so that there's a little bit,
but it's not. There's smoke, but you could still easily
woosh that smoke away, right, So don't get me wrong.
I think actually I go back and forth. I was
gonna say, because I've thought about Chris and Brent before,
because I can't remember, oh with F four because I think,
obviously you know love those guys, but we always have
different mindset and stuff, right. I remember with four when
they were coming to Marvel Alliance they got tired of
the casting rumors. For me, I actually don't mind if
we hear the rumors first and then we get and
even Matt Reeves or Batman. Right, we heard about Holt
and passing me and the finals, and then Matt Reeves
dropped that gift. So that's why I still think we're
awful little bit. If we next week or so start
hearing about testing or audition stuff, then I think by
the end of year it could it could happen, right,
And maybe they want to trickle that news out in
the right way, because if Supergirl is getting in trail
the next few weeks, because apparently it is being shown
to some people, maybe in the press it sounds like
there's trailer descriptions CCXP is this week where DC has
a panel, so we could be singing that in the
next two weeks. Right, to me, that makes more sense
of if the superherol trailers coming out. Give that the
air for the next two weeks, unless there's a legitimately
like Matt Reeves doesn't give a fuck and there is
like a little bit of a ham do it I
want because we'll talk about James Gunn situation here in
a second, right, but I would personally, if you're playing
ball with each other, yeah, let Supergirl ahead of December,
talk about that and then start then like start the
year off hot, because that's the thing too, is you're
gonna at Supergirl and then you're gonna at Doomsday, which
dooms they could suckle off of the air of the room.
Get Supergirl out there, I'd say, relatively fast. Get that
out there and hopefully it plays in front of Avatar,
but get that out there. Doomsday takes out of the
conversation for a little bit, and then January February, start
getting that Batman news out because that's the thing where
Avengers is gonna drop this trailer and then be gone
to like what super Bowl or Comic Con. Right, maybe
they do something at super Bowl, whether it's them or
Spidy with Sony, but even then it's like the news
is not going to be and that's gonna be Supergirl time, right,
so there's not gonna be much really casting. I think
our announcements for Marvel to make where DC between Man
of Tomorrow and the Batman, they can have like a
good trigle. This is the thing where I am who
knows what's happening with the Batman situation, and I hope
I'm gonna take it this way because they interact lots
of times. It seems happy if it is all happy
go lucky with James Gunna matt Ree, which I'm just
gonna asume it is. I know nothing. We're fucking nobody
when it comes to this stuff. Right, as far as
the news we know, I would definitely it works like
it's symbiotic of kind of about back and forth. Like
imagine like one week at Supergerol, one week it's Batman.
It's just like a good kind of just hype cycle
to have, especially if they're fun announcements. Right. Obviously, I
guess I'm wrong. Supergol wouldn't be doing cast down so
they already did. But just trickle stuff, right, poster teasers, interviews,
behind the scenes stuff like that, right where Batman is
very and then after when you're down Supergirl, you got
Man in Tomorrow Batman, I felt like other than I
feel like once they did the suit reveal Will passing,
it felt like they were pretty quiet Austo. We got
set photos, but it felt like, Okay, we're gonna be
shooting this and we got that amazing trailer, right, So
I think it's uh. I think soon we're gonna be
getting some stuff. But I still think now in the
new year, and it's very exciting. I can't wait. And Yeah,
like I said, I wouldn't mind if the lists and
the rankings come out of who's playing what or who's
auditioning for what right now, because I like seeing who
it could be, right. I like having that conversation, like
even with Superman, I like having that conversation of Okay,
it's these three actors, what are the pros and cons
against them? Right? And it's always because even now today
we've had like this is not a topic, but to
cycle it in there, Like John they are doing the
Variety Actors on Actors, and then they announced today that
they're doing one with Jonathan Bailey and David korn Sweat,
which is interesting because law people want Jonathan Bailey to
be Batman, right, and I will say it again, and
I agree with everybody that all you have to do
is hit the gym. But seeing them side by side,
he does got it. Unless they want to go for
like a slimmer Neil Adams Batman, they could, but like
it like he's smaller. He's much smaller than Quarant's. So
if you want to make them seem like an actual threat,
you gotta you get He's gonna have to balk up
a little bit, right, and who knows. If that's the case.
I think he could make a great bad and so
we'll see. Speaking of that now, this is seatier rumor,
very seatier rumor. But person has got things right before.
But it's just a sea tier like Twitter Scooper. But
I thought i'd bring up just because it has been
talked about before I've been here. This person said it
comes a fortress of DC. So again, grain assault with anybody.
I think that I say grand salt to anybody that's
below B tier because to me, B tier is they
get some stuff right, they get some stuff wrong. Grand
assault sea tier is like okay, this Twitter, they could
be getting a DM for somebody right. But still, just
because we've heard some of the things. Despite what was
originally announced, it seems Damian Wayne will no longer be
the Robin with Batman and bradon the Bowl before that.
After several discussions and script changes, they finally decided to
go with Dick Rayson. So again, I've said this before,
so just to reiterate a little bit, I do I
prefer that I am in a situation where, if the
DCU continues and hopefully thrives, I would actually love to
get from Dick to Jason to Tim. You could skip him,
but to Tim and then to Damian. Right, that's long
term thinking. But hey, if you could be something like
the MCU rego twenty years, you can tell those stories. Right.
Another reason is because Dick Grayson to me the best
Robin and the original Robin and a very and I
think one of the most important characters to Bruce. Right,
we have not seen a great adaptation of that in
live action. Batman sixty six with Bert rowe Ward is
a very you know, comedic, like, oh holy g Willaker's
Batman like that, Like we don't get the depths of
what that relationship is, right, And I think in Batman
Forever they hit on some like some of it they
hit on Batman and Robin. It's pretty much gone, except
there is one great speech that Batman makes him like friend, brother, partner,
will you help me? Like that's great, but we have
not in live action seen that relationship done. I'm not
gonna say correctly, but even with much weight attached to it,
we it's not been giving death at all. It's very
just like breadcrumbs. So I feel like there's a whole
thing there. And what's interesting is I can't I think
they continued after today click away, but I think they
said that it was not even gonna be an origin
of Robin. Let's see here. See we've also art unlikely
to be a Dick origin story that will have him
much more as advance Roubin. However, that doesn't mean won't
see flashbacks to his past, and that's to me the
way to do it. I don't think you need to
do the origin story because it's like Superman, like Batman Eve.
Though Batman Forever is a long time ago, and I
wouldn't say a perfect or great adaptation of Robin and Batman.
People know the story right, his parents that killed Bruce
adopts them because they see one another in each other
that's fine, continue on and that even works for me
too as far as okay, if he's a bit older,
you have that tension of wanting a Batman and rob
but it's also that tension of I kind of want
to be my own man. So I know famboy Clay
and our GHIs like, oh fuck coming off to wait
twenty five years seat Nightwing. I don't think that would
be the case. I think if you get someone that's
in there, like early to mid twenties, you can start
to do that. Okay, I've been robbing for a while
and that start and then easily and at the end
of this film or at the end of the second
film or in the middle, you can have them break
off right and like, Okay, not gonna be. We're not
together anymore. For X Y and Z, let's not make
it that Bruce Warren bangs Barbara Gordon h That was
a terrible storyline that Stan off in the animated series,
and it just got why am I forgetting? Ah? God,
there's Paul Deny and there's the guy I'm forgetting, the
guy who did the art for Batman. But man, I
think he has some great story ideas, but he also
some dog shit story ideas in the chat. If you do,
let me know, like look at fucking killing joke, right,
Like Batman has obsession. I don't know why. I'm not
gonna read in that therapeutically, but the obsession of putting
older Batman with young Barbara Gordon one I didn't like
from a character standpoint, and then two just in real
life just kind of gross nicky. Right, So anyways, I
think though with that that changes is one I still
need to get confirmation my perfect world. As I've said
before that Matt Reeves's Batman is just Batman doing his
solo things. And then that's how you still make this different?
Right before I understood the pitch of and because even
Dave fild Junki's tubblet this, which I agree with them.
As far as how do you make this Batman different, Well,
let's introduce his sun that tons of people don't know,
right but at this time, if you got a soulo
Batman over there, and then you got a you know,
team up Batman that's already connected to DCU, hopefully I
imagine with a different you know suit that's my hope
is blue and gray. And then with a Robin. I
think you can tell, Okay, these two are different. I
think where it still gets interesting is that we've heard
rumors of Dick Rayson being in Matt Reeves's Batman, and
then if it's he's also in this they bring in
the bowl. That's where I don't know. That's where I think, Okay,
this thing's shot like that that this makes no sense
to me. I understand, And maybe James is looking. I
don't care what he's doing over there. We got to
do our thing. I do understand from where they've went
with the DCU that they looked at, and you know what,
maybe we should and start with Damien. Let's go back
a little bit. And there's also just tons of story potential.
I think to go from Dick to Damien right to
establish that bat family because they don't be like I
want to see the bat family on screen. I do too,
Don't get me wrong. I think that's again another good
way to set yourself apart from Patison. But at the
same time, a lot of people need that build up
do a lot of people just want to see three
robins run around and not feel like they know them,
have no connection to We might because we know a
lot of their stories and we've read comics to watch
animate stuff. But I feel like the general audience, this
is not the confusion. This is just like do they
have a reason to walk in right? The same way
as like look at the Marvels when you had Monica
Rambo and Miss Marvel. I think there's a lot of
things that happen with that movie, with release and with
the way Marvel's quality was. But I think it was
also that I don't know these fucking characters because as
we saw, they weren't watching the Disney Plus stuff right
like to everything into like a huge amount of degrease.
I think there was like who are these characters? And
that's why I think they've done a better job of
We're gonna go back to adapting kind of the beat
to your characters on Disney Plus, like a vision a hawk.
I think that's what they should do. I think the
new characters, barring a special occasion here or there, I
don't think it works as the introduction. I think you
got to lock people in on the movies and then
have them fall. You can't lock them in the show
because as we've seen different audiences, right, So that's all
I need to do, is hear the other shoe drop
for bat Reeves Because we get a gift and it's
some fucking kid and it's all welcome Richard or Dick Grayson,
and there's rumors over here that it's Dick Grayson. That's
an interesting situation. Even if it's a couple of years apart.
That's not something I would recommend. Then I would just say,
you know what, Then I go okay, no, then do Damien.
If that is the situation where if James, if I'm
getting lunch of James gun, I don't know what he
likes me and he's like some sushi and you know
he's he's purviewed and tell me this stuff and s yeah,
well Matt's doing Dick Grayson. We're thinking about doing the same.
I no, no, no, go back to the original pitch.
I understand. Then if you want to do this thing
where you want to tell the stories of the like
the Robbins, do a night Wing movie and tell it
through flashbacks there or background flash like, do a different
method and get there, not Dick and then not Dick
on Dick action. Dick on Dick's action can be good,
but not in this situation, you know, So it's gonna
be interesting. But just the reason I put that in
there because this is another person. Could they just be
regurgitating things other people have said? Sure, but we just
keep hearing about changes and even I think the flood
gets open a little bit too for people ask questions
when Guns said since the announcement, a lot of things
have changed with Brady than Bold. What are those things?
I don't know? And he didn't even talk about them?
Fuck us, right, he's not gonna say anything, but it's
gonna well, he will say something, but like he doesn't
have to, right, he doesn't have to talk about that
right now. So yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen there.
It's gonna be very interesting if if they have them
both that that that that creates the whole conversation again
of confusion. And I do trust the GA and that
they can make a difference, but still and not even
confusion too for me take that aside. There's be some
people confused, but most people probably figure out after conversation
more just the Already in a world where there's a
lot of superhero fatigue, you could argue, well it's Batman,
but still we don't know. Are people if they just
saw a movie that feature Batman and Robin want to
get another movie that's Batman and Robin, you know? And
even to myself too, I've said this before with the
Superman Supergirl, and I think they hopefully will do a
good job making them different. But going from Superman to
Supergirl just MANU tomorrow when we get tin of Man tomorrow.
I think it's two things. Is it just like, oh,
I'm really invested in the Superman saga, so let's keep going.
Or is it like this is a lot of Superman
in a row, you know, And that's how I feel
is I'm a big Superman guy. And ALSOY didn't love Superman,
so that's probably it too. If I loved that movie,
maybe I would be more hyped, right, But we'll have
to wait and see. So I think we'll talk about
with the boys a little bit too as far as
the Batman and Man tomorrow. Because this goes to another
rumor that was or was this a rumor? I think
it was right. Oh, so it comes to Puck News,
so a bit of a higher tier one. Let me
get the actual I had the article. I'll try and
see it but anyways, so pretty much they put kind
of another update because what happened now obviously the biddings
still going on with Warner Brothers. We don't know what's
gonna happen. Lots of people which I kind of kind
of lean to right now where everyone putting their first
bid apparently, and the people were Paramount, we don't know
with or without Saudi, Netflix and then Universal right and
apparently now I think it's this week where it's like
a it's like a Sweden the deal bid where okay,
all these aren't good, let's see and people have point
at which I do lean to, where the thing is
that's happening right now is up until April twenty twenty six.
If you buy Warner Brothers, you're buying everything, so like
the news stations, everything, and I kind of forgot about that.
So that's where people have a theory and I do
kind of agree that. I wonder if for Warner Brothers
will kind of wait unless they get a massive offer
and someone like a Netflix or Comcasts could offer more
to buy just the films because they don't want anything
to do with the new stuff, right, But we'll see
what happens and I'll find this article. But it was
weird where they were talking about the scenarios and the
things that are going on, what's happening where, Yeah, I'll
try to fight here. But weapon Zach Grayor is pitching
his DC film, which was apparently Henchman's. It was like
a Harlequinn Joker thing to sky Dance, with Josh Greenston
saying they'll be more than happy to make it happen,
which is super interesting. Of course the articles locked behind,
but anyway, so it's a payeall article, so you know,
support them if you want. It's on puck but they're
going on a bunch of stuff. We've talked about this
before where and even Zach Grayer said like, hey, it's
just like an idea, it's a pitch. But hey, remember
a couple of years ago when someone put out a
story which is it's still fucking weird the way we
all went. But like, oh, Mike Flanagan's working on a
clay Face movie but it's not even official. He's just
working on pitching it and writing it. Right, It's something
he worked on and which in my opinion was probably
wrote during the strike, and just like, oh, here you
can tell us and then the war was, oh, we
don't know where it is. Then James Gunn or Matt
Reeves and apparently it was in the matt Reeves universe,
which is crazy because this is looking like to be
a fantastical one. So it's like, what does that say
about matt Reeve's universe? I don't know, or even he
could have been like, you know what, we're not going
that route now, but the idea was it wasn't the
matter res DC Batman first whatever the crime saga, and
then I got changed over to DCU. But that's a
similar thing where we've heard this now twice, Like we've
heard I said more a few more times, but with
trades are porting and talking about it's been twice. I
think the first person was Daniel RpK and it was
just like he has an idea, it's a pitch who
knows what happens. But we keep fucking hearing about this,
right and also in this article. Let me see if
I can find because I did share this a gua.
It was this quote which it's like, I don't know,
I feel like it's a water is wet situation. I've
been saying this for I don't know since they got
in there. Where is the official quote here? Oh yeah,
James Gunn and Peter Saffrom may not have full control
of DC Studios if Paramount buys Warner Brothers Lottie fucking duh,
like no shit. Like I said this before, and I
know people will bring this up because they're very They're
very right leaning, right, very good with Trump all that stuff. Okay, fine,
whatever that may be. Take politics aside. We've seen this
happen so many times. I'm just gonna quickly reiterate. And
because there's someone new, which again we'll go over on Thursday,
shout out to everyone Spotify rap. We had like a
like a ninety percent growth on Spotify this year, so
big thank you. Everyone listens on Spotify and keep the
comments coming. I didn't even know that people would comment
on there, just down them this year, so uh, you know, comment,
We will talk to you there. But so anyone that's new,
because every day we have someone new, I'm grateful for that.
Not every time, but so many times. In the studios
and whatnot take over, there are changes. And I've said
this before. It could just be as simple as someone
was sitting at a dinner table and James Gunn made
a joke and they didn't like, Okay, well, I shouldn't
say that because like I'll see it's sister about James
Gunn bumped into him, spilled a little wine on their
shoe and they're like, fuck James Gunn, I'm never gonna
work with that guy. Right. So I said this before
that it doesn't take up the Trump stuffing all that stuff.
It doesn't even matter. It could just be one thing
or just the fact that same thing like me, like,
I'm not and I've said this before, right, I wouldn't
do this. I've said this where I have not loved
the DCU so far. Peacemaker season one was way better.
In season two, I thought that was disappointing. Supman to
me was like fine to good, But I'm not locked in.
But I've said before that I think in the success
is there and enough people are enjoying it to ride
it out and see at least to like, I definitely
think managedomore because as I've said before, what if you
get to manat tomorrow and that just falters and people
go okay, yeah, people maybe didn't love Superman as much
as we thought or they've had too much of the Supman.
Let's change it up. Like I'd still give it if
I'm Elson whoever gets it two to four years to
see what it can do, because it's it's cranking along.
As I've said before, you can't reboot it if their
ideas do oh a cinematic universe. But I want to
do it my way. That's dumb because that would fail
to me in my opinion, that would fail unless you're
i don't know, like making extremely little budgets or you're
just paying out the ass for the biggest stars of
all the time in Saudi Array is just giving you
a blank check, right, But realistically in the film world,
it would fail to me. Of you got a new Superman,
it's not the pass and versus let's say Jonathan Bailey,
it's not that of Oh no, these two things are
happening at the same time. It's just different versions. That's
Batman with Robin and this is Batman on his own
when he's younger. Okay, cool, it's a different cup of tea. Right,
This is oh, this is the new Superman. You know
this Dave Kranston. The tiers say, oh, here's the new Superman.
Oh what is David Corns will come back? No, no, no,
this is the new Superman. Because even with Man of
Steel and cavil Off. See I'm not discreting, right, love
the movie, have lots of friends love the movie. Zaxon
and Justly came out twenty twenty, right, COVID time, Right,
let me just just confirm that it's not twenty one, right, justly?
Oh it is twenty one. Okay, yeah, because right twenty
twenty was COVID was the shit, nothing was happening. So
twenty twenty one. We got Superman this year if that's
four years ago. But even then, there's still tons of
people that didn't see the Snyder Cup, right, And that's
not just because of you know, oh the Antiser, No,
it's just that they thought they saw the just Leau
didn't need to see it again. They're not seeing a
director's cut. They think it's a bonus thing, or they've
moved on super fatigue, whatever it is. Unfortunately, over time,
I think this will change, but I could still if
you were to show me if God was real and
he came down, I said, show me the stats with
the people that I've seen the Justice League in twenty
seventeen ors ex sentiers Justice League. I'm not saying hours
watch him, saying the amount of people probably still twenty
seventeen one, because it's also played on cable, like when
I was watching aaw before when my American stream Justice
League would be playing before that or after that, right,
like on cable, sometimes on Netflix just by proxy, there
are people that clicked on that, right, So that's where
if you look at that, okay, and I guess right,
there is black Adam, but that's an end credit, not like,
wasn't the most successful, right, take that out twenty seventeen
it was what so eight years for a new Superman
that's completely different versus Paramount buys wbn DC AND's like, hey,
here's a new Superman. Where's David's corn said, Oh, he's gone,
this is the new Superman. You're like, what I'd say
the clo like the I'd have to look at the timeline,
but what so amazing? Spider Man two was god that
was twenty fourteen, right, and then two years later you
got Spider Man and even saying with BVS to Dark Knight,
those are smaller, but you could also argue those are
the god tier characters that are gonna come out for right, Stuerman,
I don't think it's a god tier character anymore. I
think it just showed in the past, in the future
or not in the present, just blocks off a number
in reception. People still enjoys, you man, but he's not
an instant hit, right, So we'll see. But with this,
what my point was that it was a double of
them putting them the article of hey, they might not
have full control. I've been saying that for a while,
and even this as far as if I'm James Gunn
and maybe already knows about this, right, but let's say
he doesn't. If I'm James Gunn and I'm looking at
people that could potentially but and now it's like we're
really running out of good options here. Like it really
to me is like I'm hoping Universal and Comcasts get it,
and even then by gett ouse James Gunn say, hey,
we want to do our own thing. But if I'm
James Gunn and I'm supposedly the president of DC's Studios,
but i already seen an article of somebody that doesn't
even own this company, but it's like, hey, yeah, if
we get Warner and this was just the all lip service, right,
but STI, let's say it's not. Let's say it's legit. Hey,
if I get Warmer Brothers, you can make that Joker film.
And let's say that happens, and you sit down and
already annoyed. It's like, I don't necessarily want to do that,
and maybe he does. Maybe James goes like, great, I'm
in sync with this person, right, But let's say he doesn't, like,
I don't know if I wanna do that. Paramount buys
w B and they sit down like, hey, we're gonna
make this Joker film, you know, the Henchmen film, X
Y and Z. And he could say, oh, well, it
doesn't fit in our plans. We only want to do
so many else worlds. I don't know if this would
be it. We did just have a Joker movie a
couple years ago. Sure was a musical, but didn't do
the greatest like maybe want a way a little bit.
He could have X, Y and Z, but it doesn't
matter because he's not gonna own the fucking thing, right,
And that's where it's just I've said this many times
where I guess, obviously the major thing I just wish
WB stayed the same. You know, they had a great
year this year. Who knows what happens next year. I
don't know how clay Face and the Bride and the
Supergirl are gonna do, like some of the bigger tess Like,
I don't know, I don't know if they can have
another big year. So just have millionears all the time, right,
But I wish they would say the same because I
think and I feel really bad for the people that
do really enjoy the DCU and even DC and general like,
of course I want more. I want a bunch of characters.
I said this where I've always wanted DC to get
their end game, and I think James Gunn is the
best shot at that or even Avengers fuck, because I
don't think Saxonary' j just league was that sure. Okay,
they did get that bet after the fact, right, I
want them to have that big moment of this big
story being commentative and coming together. For me, I'm in
a situation where if I get the Batman two, which
sends likely happening, I'm gravy. And then if I get
to the Batman three, Batman's my favorite character all the time.
I got many iterations if you were to say, hey,
you're never getting another Batman movie ever again, that would
be a bummer. But it's like, well, there's animated stuff,
there's comics. I'm gonna be okay, you know, especially after
if we get The Batman two, I'm gonna be okay.
I love Batman begins. Don't get me wrong, I STI
don't have it on the levels the Dark Night as
far as like my favorite, but now I got the Batman's. Like,
I have two favorites. I have if I have a
different day, if I want to watch a certain type
of Batman, and even then as a Joker fan, I
have a favorite movie with the Joker. Right I'm a
pig and fucking ship here with other people and the
people locked into the d seas right now, I do
feel bad because I just feel like you're about to
get fucked royally, Like I think it's it's coming. I
think it's time to buckle up, enjoy it here And
it is crazy where when James Gunna took over take
everything aside, it's still the situation of Matt Reeves is
making a follow up to a very successful Batman movie,
and I guarantee you he doesn't know one hundred percent
of Batman three is gonna happen, right, I feel like
Gun and he's doing that right now. We make that.
And again they're professional, like their professionals are a great
way above whatever I'm doing, right, so they can probably
log and go, Okay, I'm gonna just do this, enjoy it.
But that's what I'm just saying. If they're not man,
just enjoy because James gets that the same situation now
where he's making Man of Tomorrow and it's a good shot.
He doesn't know if he's gonna be back in that
chair for the next un Dave Corn Sweat's running around
the cape or anybody else, you know, like and that's
it's it's funny how that's how it started with Matt
Reeves and now it's gonna be happening with Gun where
it's like tomorrow's not guaranteed. So both for James, gunn Tomorrow,
Matt Reeves of Batman Part two, fucking go out there
and you know to you know, uh, shout out another director,
you know, because he said this on the Voga stream,
you know, Zack, he said, shoot every bullet you got
in the gun. Try to do that as much as
you can, because you don't know what's gonna happen in
the future. So and same thing here and again. I
can't say if it's a good idea. I'd have to
see the script in the pitch in concept. I like it.
I think it's a good idea, and I like Zach
Gregor's work so far. I don't love it as much
as other people, Like I didn't love Weapons and Barbarians
like a lot of other people. They're all like a
seven point five eight to me, or some people would
probably put them in like the Crown Druel the New
Horror directors. Not exactly for me, but he's still making
really good stuff, so I'd be complete down, like yeah, sure,
let's see this and again, as long as you make
it like a like budgetary fine, Like I think it's
like a layup, you know, like get like and even
then with the joker choking Harley Quinn. You want to
get a small budget, fucking go get a character actor.
Don't even go get like some big name like a
walking Phoenix or like Leo how he's rumored before, Like,
get a care actor. If the movie's truly about this
main person as a Henchman in Gotham, and it's not
connected to James Gunn or Matt Reeves universe. Just get
character actors keep it cheap, you know, like maybe more
about the character than the actor. So we will see.
So let me pull up some Patreon questions here, and
I said, next week, we'll see what happens. If I
don't get to all these ones, I will talk about
them next week. I said, I do plan to do
kind of a podcast. I did, I guess a little bit,
but just a podcast all more about just like enjoying
life everything. I need that. But if I don't get
that evercaing topic, as I said before, just things can change.
Enjoy what you can right now, you know. So uh man,
let's see where is it here? Because I stole it
from The Geek first one, but they wouldn't have been
able to really answers. Matthew Fletcher asked, as of now,
who's everyone's pick for best lead actor the Oscars? I
could ask them again the News, but I don't think
they have any idea. Matthew kurnlingdon liked the Oscars, so
I didn't follow it. DYL might have like the next
best guest. I feel like he's seen more films than
that Elk, but like, I still think there's tons of
stuff he wouldn't have seen. No idea for me, Like,
let's look at gold Derby, because right now it's like
shallow May and it does. We were talking about this
in the discord the other day where I do think
the rocket is out. I think that that's kind of over.
I think that unfortunately, the the quality of the movie
kind of kind of took that down. So let's see
here and gold Derby. If you don't know, that's where
all the kind of Oscar critics and whatnot going to
make their predictions right now. So right now the running
is and look at this. I don't know what this means.
This is ninety Maybe this means for a lock ninety
four percent Leo and then Timothy Child May ninety three.
I think as more people see Mario Supreme that could change.
But and then Wagner Mora as a secret agent, and
then Michael B. Jordans Sinners and then Ethan Hawk for Blooming,
which I've heard some stuff about. Let me see if
I can get their usually they have like the people
that are like five and six. Yeah, we'll see all
but to me, that's kind of the feel right, because
who are the other people. Joel Ackerton could sneak in there, Plemmons,
I would like, we're gonna talk about what we can
watching the news. I think us that would be lead acting,
but he'd probably go for supporting. I think he is
the best part of that movie. But Jeremy Allen White
from Bruce Springsteen, No, that's not happening, including for j Kelly.
There's always a chance. There's a chance that could happen,
because sometimes it gets in there. Duayne Jones there's also
a chance that could happen as well. But I feel
like those top five are the ones where at least
like at least Leo, Timmy, and I do think Michael
b I think Sinners is gonna be lots of people.
And I feel good about this prediction because I feel
like the Oscar, there's been a couple Academy Award Oscar
movies that have come out and kind of underperformed what
people thought they were gonna be. As far as multiple
knobs are a lock in there, I can't remember when,
but I think at least a month or two, like
I said, Sinners was gonna get a Best Picture nomination.
I didn't say anything about Michael b so I can't
step on that. I didn't say anything about Coogler because
Coogler has been passed over before. I do think it's
gonna happen now for Coogler Dylan O'Brien being ignored as criminal.
What would it be a nord for? Uh, April, Let's
see is it? Where is he? Yeah, he's nowhere even
in this less like even then, like Hugh Jackman for
a song sung Blue, that's one that could sneak in there,
because I've heard some buzz about that. There's always usually
one that sneaks in there. I just feel like that
three of Michael b Leo and Timmy that's like all
that's a lock to me. Those are uh in my opinion.
But yeah, let me know what he would be in
there for. I think, are you talking about that? Maybe
that Twins movie or something that twinless? Yeah, I guess
I just didn't hear I do want to see it.
I guess I just didn't hear enough buzz in that
in those communities, right. I think that's what happens sometimes
those movies get a bit too niche and it doesn't
break through because even then, look at like Smashing Machine, right,
that was like obviously Dwayne on gold Derby's ranked in
like the top ten. But I didn't pun intended smash
the way people were thinking, right, And I think when
a bare movie could have. So yeah, I'm not surpricious
because the reception aper. I haven't seen the movies. I
don't know, but uh yeah, I think that's it. And
I still think, oh, that's my same with Sinners though
its calling Sinners, and now that it's like a weeker year,
Sinners is looking even better. So stuff like Coogler, stuff
like Michael b that's stuff that's gonna get in there.
And it's not that it doesn't deserve it. It might
be my film the year I've rewatched twenty eight years later.
We were gonna do Sinners in Halloween. We didn't have time,
so we're gonna do more Oscar season. Examly hasn't seen it,
but I go back and forth on the two. Enough
for Oscars, I mean for myself, I have pros and cons.
But Sinners it's literally like my one b film in
the year, right, it deserves these accolades. But because it
is more horror a. Jason doesn't get in there, eh,
not so much, you know, like that's that's the thing.
But now with it being a weaker year, starts to climb,
starts to make some movement like even a gold Derby
do they got Coogler in director they making him sit
out for that. Right now he's ranked three, So right
now you got Paul Paul Thomas, Anderson Clojaw, Ryan Cougler,
Jock Treer, and Jafar Panieri. So yeah, I think Couglar
is gonna get in now. A couple of months ago,
I was ziffy on it, but I always was an
iffy on the movie. I thought that with it being ten,
now thought or you know, can get up to ten.
I thought so, So yeah, Matthew, I think it's at
least I think Leo, Michael b and Timmy are locked
ethan Hawk could be. But I also think one of
those lots is kind of a surprise where things kind
of shift throughout Awards season, right where there's a pick
that no one thought was running that well starts to
run better. So and I think it's it's tough because
we've talked about this before. Things all like things can
bring like who's the last person listed here? Like like
David's Strane for a little prayer. Nothing against them, but
like just like when you get down there, they're ranking
like the top fifty. It's like, is Miles Teller for
Eternity really gonna get there? I don't think so. But
let me just see Colin Okay, callin fair full boll
and like even Colin Pharaoh for a big bull journal
beautiful journey. It's like at some point it's like, you
don't got to rank these people, like the top fifteen's fine,
you know, and I it is between I like, honestly
I have not seen Mario Supreme, so I have to wait.
So I actually can't speak about that. Matthew. It's a
question are they going to give it to Timmy? Because
there is an narrative which things can break, right. We
just talk about the Game Awards where sometimes they used
to do like oh director, yeah, April, I would personally
because I here's the thing with awesotly it's more like
the film Twitter in our community, right, But I was
surprised how much pushback there wasn't as Scars, where I
think a lot of people didn't love them. I don't
think they thought it was bad but didn't love them.
I think if there's any acting sneak for Frankenstein, it's
a lording like, let's look at the best supporting actors
right now to me, because right now he's yeah, you see,
he's ranked fifth, so he got and so the gold
stars like who they think are locks? Right? So their
locks right now are Sean Penn form Battle after Another,
Sells scars Gard for cinement value, and Paul Mascal for
a Hamden. I agree with all those, I think so.
And then below that is Beniso del Toro fore Battle
after and then Jacob Loori, which I'm excited to do
like a full Oscars cast because it's interesting. Olorie is
rightly fifth because he's the sneak, he's the one, and
I think he deserves it. I think he's great. I
think those other ones a lock, and Benicio is tough
because do you do another one battle after another? And
then even with Sean Pinn that's a tough one of
I think he's getting the gnam for sure. It's that win.
It's that win because obviously he's a on his sleeve.
Is like a fuck the Oscars type of guy. Right,
he's talking about how bad the oscars or whatnot, but
it feels similar to milk when it's just like when
he did that speech and he came up there, he's like,
you goddamn left like home O Lovin like he and
he was saying all in joking. But even in the
speech he said, he I know it makes it really
hard for you, like me sins the thing where even
the last time he won, he like calls out the
academy for kind of being assholes or whatnot or taking
shots of them, but then he just kind of makes
a joke, Oh all things put up me and geinst Award.
That's where for Champin's like can he get the win?
And I don't know. Like for me, I do love
Benizo in one battle after another, but Sean Penn is
like the clear win. I have to see sentimental value Frankenson.
As much as I love Frankenson and Jacob Lordi in that,
I still put Penn over him. Hamnet, I really don't
want to see. I don't. I don't want to see.
I might. That's gonna be that one where it's like
if I have to watch the Oscar movies, it'll be last,
and if I don't have time for it, oh well,
but I probably will because last year that was kinda
and I've said this before, I love Bob Dylan, one
of my favorites. I just had no interest in that movie.
I'm gonna do a double feature of that, and like
the Springs See movie, I think at some point just
knock them down. But that was one where when we
did you know, April you were on there when we
did our predictions, I just said, I haven't seen this yet,
And sometimes you got to put things in aside, right,
not you. April was rocking like four Inner movies a year.
You know, good on you. You're You're the queen that way.
But for me, that's a movie where because I have
no interest in it, I put in the last. But
the thing though, with the Bob Dylan movie, I had
a good feeling that timny Chellmeyer was not gonna win
or anybody really right. So that's where I can put
off when you it's one of those movies that you
know it's gonna get a bunch of nolalso don't really win.
That's one of the bottom With Hamnet, Jesse Buckley is
gonna win that fucking Award just because like it. It
feels like that's the narrative, right. So that's why I
probably will see it, because you know, I want to
be able to say that I agree or disagree with that, right,
But I yeah, I just non theaters though, not seeing
that in theater, So yeah, we'll see. But that's what
I've said before. Anyways, were talking about video game awards
where there was and auscers do this too, right, where
it's like, oh, there's like three to four years where
it's like one guy gets game direction hopefully one girl
on day and one guy girl gets Best Game Award
and that's it. And then now it's like almost together
where it's like the game wins and game direction wins.
As I've said many times to me, if the things
game the Year or move of the year, you should
also be Director of the year. I've never understand that correlation,
just like I just feel like you. I understand from
a visual aspect. But to me, if you made the
best film that year you fucking directed it, you also
deserve that ward as well. Life upon ben Affleck, you know,
like Argo should have gone at that year, bet Ifick
should have gone it that year. I get it. Like
like it's more aesthetically pleasing, there's more visual stuff. It's
like still the best picture, right, So that's where I am.
So yeah, Matthew Fletcher, Oh that's what. Sorry, I didn't
make my point. With the oscars, they have a tradition
of if you look, it's not all the time. There's
exceptions a rule, but if you look at the traditions
of first time winners for females, they generally lean towards
them being younger, and then with males they generally lean
towards them being older. Don't know why. I'm not sure.
If it's like, oh, with the females it's like a
new young star that we want to crown, it's just
the momentum. With men, it's like you gotta work for right,
Like that was the almost narrative kind of rumor Leo.
It's like we're gonna make them work for it. And
same thing with Timy Schallmey. If his performance is as
good as people are saying, I like Leo one battle
after don't get me wrong, but if it as good
as people are saying, I'm just imagining I would put
him over Leo. Leo already has one so to me,
it's like to get a second Oscar ala Sean Penn.
And because I look, I I can't say it's a
fifty to fifty if him versus Mickey Rourke and the wrestler.
But I can still say from Mystic River to milk
Cheampinn is phenomenal milk right, So it has to be
a same thing as fucking Emma Stone in uh poor
things right to me, you have to be almost extra
phenomenal to get that second or third oscars. We've already
given it to you. So and I don't know if
Leo has that in one battle after another. I think
he's great. And if you were to win it and
be like, oh it's preposter No, no, not that it's
not some other ones Like I'm not gonna try to
name any off the top without the saying some off
the cuff and regretted later. But it's just there's certain
wards where you go. Okay, I don't think that this
was the best in this category X y Z. So
we'll see. And because Timmy is young, like what are these?
I know he's younger than Timothy. Let's see, he is
twenty nine, okay, so's three years younger. Than me, So
I don't know what the last maybe Rammy Malick, we'll
do that. More Oscar predictions. We'll shelve that to look
at some all young Oscar winners for males whatnot. But
that's the thing. But I feel like the momentum is
behind shall me so? And we'll see me this is
the start of the career of him making going for
that record, trying to get the three right, So we
will see. Let's see to put me pull up my
notes here, Cocktail Clay, I know you asked a question here.
You asked too, so you said top five or top
ten animated series or episodes of the Batman the animated series. Clay,
I will answer this in about three years time. But
I can tell you just a favor or two just
because we will be as we announced at the end
of the or yeah, at the end of the extra
live stream, we are going to do a Batman in
the Animated series retrospective because we got Clay face, we
got the Batman. Maybe a DCU Batman. It's time we've
talked about for many years. It's time the guys like
the X Men and one and it is a long
one because we're doing Batman amid Series, the New Adventures.
We're gonna do Batman Beyond. We're gonna We're gonna Maybe
I didn't, we didn't say that, but there you go.
We're doing it all. We're doing that whole fucking entire story.
And we're doing the movies too, mister bat When we're
doing hart Ie or No A zub Zero, we're doing
mass fantastic, like we're doing all the Return of Joker.
We're doing all That's gonna be our biggest retrospective of
all time. Cannot wait. So I will say that it's
tough Clay that because there's so many around my head
that to maybe at five or ten, it's super tough
to decide what I'm gonna list off. So I think
when I we do the retrospective, I'm literally gonna have
a rankings and keep ranking all the episodes. But I'll
say probably my fate. Like a couple of favorites. I
love I Almost Got Them, where it's just all the
films around a poker table telling their mini stories of
how they almost caught Batman. I love that Robin's wreck
Me is great, you know, talking about Robin earlier, like
that's something that to me is like a good representation
of an origin of that character. Lots of stuff with
the Jokers great, but a Joker's favor. It's probably my
favorite Joker episode. That's really really good. Oh the name
is Escaping Me. But when Batman gets put into Arkma Asylum,
that's a great one and he's on trial the Big
bat Harvard Dent ones are great ones. Yeah, And there's
also one that there's not many. There's no villains in it,
I don't think so, and I can't remember what it
is the title of it, but one where Gordon gets
shot and there's no villains, and it's just like it's
one of those few times in the series that Batman
is playing with the idea of like they never say it,
but you can tell that Batman wants to kill this
criminal at shock Gordon right, and he doesn't. But it's
a great episode where because sometimes there's some you know,
made up villains. Obviously Hardy Quinn was Man, but there's
some Man films we this doesn't work, like the sewerworking
or whatnot. But this story of just Gordon gets show
on the line of duty and Batman's trying his best
nod to cross that line and he sees Barber there,
and all the other cops are kind of like even
Harvey Bullock, who hates Batman, is almost kind of like
fine with Batman being there because like he took one
of our own. So like there's some deep moments in
that show. So there's a few Clay, there's a couple previous,
but I'm very excited to get that or even few
to Clay, which we'll be tackling. Like that's great. Uh
So yeah, I'm f I cannot wait my most anticipay retro.
And like I said, we're gonna do the same as
far as like three to four episodes per episode, so
it's but it's still I think there's like one hundred
when you putting all of it together like in the movies,
like one hundred fe like it it's gonna span multiple
years this retro, so I'll look out for that. And
then this was a hard one, and I try to
rack my brain because I don't think I have I
only have like the one play, so maybe it's something
that like a cop out, So I hope you're not disappointed.
And that's why I wouldn't have Evergreen, because like I
guess I would have. Maybe actually, if I would have,
I would have brought up a list. But because you say,
what are a few favorite movies from some of your
least favorite actors, actresses or directors, I don't know if
I have any actresses or actor or directors. Everyone knows.
For me, it's shared Letto right like that, because even
then when we talk about listen to the Minecraft Retrospective,
I know I always get joked about, joked upon with
Jack Black and all this stuff. But for me, it's like,
I don't dislike and hate Jack Black. I dislike the
same performance over and over, but I've never like, oh
my god, he has no he's multiple formances, I love,
multiple movies I love. For me, I guess it is
just Jared Letto and like a time he was great
again speaking of Oscars, he is good. In Dallas Biers Club.
I don't think he deserved the win over Fastbender. I
think Fastbender should have locked that. I think Fastpender became
just a vile, hateful where you lost Fastbender in the
performance performance double the performance speak that to me deserved
it there and at that point, as I've said before,
you go through runs that three to four years he
was the best actor in Hollywood. I don't care put
him against anybody best actor. I feel like that was
semwhar Leto. I didn't agree with that. But as far
as fair movies, I think in all these ones there
if you know me, Bled around twenty foury nine, right,
and I actually think that's a movie where Jared Lettle
is good in right. I don't think he's good Mortgaes.
I didn't think he was great in Tron Austin Joker.
He's not great there. Like Record for a Dream Yesterday,
he's good. I need to watch, but I don't think
it's like a huge heavy performance thing, which is like, oh,
Jared Lettle's in this. So there's not many that I
can go to, but I think that would be it
for him. It's Blade Round twenty four and nine where
I love the movie and I think he's right in it.
And like Lee, I don't think I have a least
favorite actress person even actors, I don't have that many, right.
I think there might be like another one that might
be like, ugh, like this guy again, but I don't
no one to the level of Leto, and there's no one.
There's no one that really springs to mind. And same
thing with directors, right, because I feel like Lee's favorite directors,
because because here's the thing, because because how do you
pose the question? You said, what are a few of
your favorite movies from some of these directors? And that's
the thing we're I hate saying this very talented, but
I'm gonna say again, Chloe Shoo, I did not I
do not like her style. Would never call say it's bad,
would never you know, say oh, shouldn't deserve that win
or whatnot? The same thing as letter where hey to
me good? But I would have went somewhere else for
No mad Land, you know, like there's many other movies
I would have picked there, but I don't have, like
I feel like most directors that are like a least favorite,
I don't think I have a favorite because I just
don't like their style. I guess I'm trying to think
of like maybe again like speaking they aren't even like
saying this name, but something like okay, we've heard him
the news, right, we're talking a little bit more. But
like with the whole rush hour and bretton Rat and
air thing, I don't like Brett Rat and her stuff,
but like I like Red Dragon. I think that's a
good movie, and I think that's better than Hannibal, and
I think there's some good stuff there, and I think that,
you know, got a good performance out of I shouldn't
say I got a good performance at Hopkins, but it
felt more ache in Too Signs and Lambs also because
he's back in prison. But I just like, I think
that's the thing where I don't know if I have
any favorite movies, I'd have to look at my list
and say who it are, like who it is? If anything,
it would be someone that would be like a least
favorite and someone here you go Clay like politically or
real life, right, like fucking Brian Singer, like definitely one
of my least favorite directors, but like I love Days
of Future Pass Next Two Usual Suspects is fantastic. You know.
So that's the thing where it's like, I think it's
more of that where it's people that are canceled or
people might have that like Woody Allen. Right, I think
it's more that what directors work, because I think most
people like klouijow we I just stumbled with Hamnet, I
have no interest in it now that Jesse Buckley is
probably gonna win Best Actress. I do like to see
the ones that are the front runners or going to win,
because I let you know, people deem that as a
award winning performance. I want to see so then I
can at least go okay. I know, even if I
don't see everybody, I would say, hey, at this category,
I've seen three out of five, and even in this category,
I would have put in this person of this person,
or just even this person over the winner, right and
we've even Best Actress right now, who is currently in there?
Like I've wicked for good, I am seen, but I'm
just gonna say Jesse Buckley's definitely over there. Bogonia, yeah,
and see, I couldn't say because I thin emistone's great, Bogonia,
the Testament and a leak another fucking one I do
not want to watch, but I still and in sentimental
value I will because I have interest in that. But
I still want to be able to have at least
three to say hey, I would be more justifiable winner
because there's definitely years though I can't think on paper,
I'd have to look at there when we do the
predictions cast, but there's definitely years where like almost everybody
in the category is like fine, you know, like in
my opinion, find there's nothing great. They might have a
very good performance, but nothing like this is a home
run or this person was a home run. They should
done that. That happens all the time, right, So not
all well, I'm sure all the time in the many
years of Oscar history. So yeah, I think that's just it, Clay.
I think that's Unfortunately. I don't think there's an actress
like that's my least fair. I'm just trying to think
even like politically right, Like same thing like what was
her name that got Who's Carra Doon who got canceled
from Star Wars and was making all those bad like
jokes about trans people. God, oh my god, I can't
even remember. I can't even remember her real name. But
she was in the fucking hey Wire movie that changed
your voice. Same thing like I don't think I have
like a favorite movie of hers, right, Like, let do
I do? Because they just happened to be in there.
But I don't have any I don't have any for actresses.
Let me know, play too in the discord or you
want to just pm me like any of yours. The
same thing with directors. I don't know. I'm trying to
think of other directors that I people love and I
don't like. I guess like Wes Anderson. But even though
like Wes Anderson, like I don't, he's not my least favorite.
I just lately have unchecked some of stuff because I'm
over that. But like, I fucking love mister Fantastic Fox,
But same thing, I wouldn't. I would never put him
down like in a in the way you said, uh,
I think it was the least favorite, right you said, yeah,
your least favorite director, I could. I would never say, oh,
Wes Anderson is one of my least favorite directors. I
would say currently I'm not loving that. It's just kind
of a very similar vibe, very similar characters kind of
all the time. But you know, so, uh yeah, and
that's it. I think I got everything for the questions there.
I'm gonna answer this quickly because I saw a new
that was jealous. Mike. You asked the three favorite Christmas
movies you would have watch if you could only watch
three Christmas movies for the rest of your life. You
watch other movies with just only those three Christmas movies,
picking Home alone, two Kirkham Patser is a fucking he's wrong,
you know, he said, Oh he barely watches Home one two,
come on wrong, But Home on two I think I
just you got Tim Curry in there, and it is
the exactly It's like the Hangover where the Hangover to
is the exact same. That's less funny to me. That's
the opposite where it's it's Home alone one, but it's
more funny new location if it's to Home one one.
I'm putting a Christmas Carol, the original, because I need
a Christmas Carol. And I'm putting The Night Before Love,
that movie that's a great adult humor, referencing a lot
of other ones. There's tons of other movies that hurt
not to put on there, like The Holdovers, or even
any of the Grinches, or Love Apps, Love Apps and
Love Actually, but those would be with the three. So
I had to answer. But yes, I'll be back on Monday,
well the box office. I'm sure there'll be other news
to break down. But thank you very much everyone saying questions.
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