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Speaker 4: Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time
Speaker 4: for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. As
Speaker 4: we record on this Friday, May the ninth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: I hope this podcast finds you well again. We're in
Speaker 4: the springtime, lots of beautiful weather, also busy time of
Speaker 4: year for a lot of folks waiting to plant your
Speaker 4: gardens and just everything that goes along with spring. I
Speaker 4: hope this finds you well. We have a great guest
Speaker 4: standing by from the great state of Michigan. Just two
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Speaker 4: of people have done before and without any further ado. Well,
Speaker 4: let's bring on tonight's guests again. Joining us from Michigan
Speaker 4: is Josh. Josh, thanks again so much for joining us tonight.
Speaker 4: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for having me.
Speaker 4: All right, well, let's kick things off and introduce yourself
Speaker 4: to the audience.
Speaker 1: Yea, my name is Josh, born and raised in Michigan.
Speaker 1: Pretty much been here my whole life. I believe I'm
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old now, I have a wife and
Speaker 1: two kids, and yeah, we just enjoy spending time together
Speaker 1: as a family and getting outside. And as you mentioned
Speaker 1: the garden, we're looking forward to getting our garden in
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's we you know, we ended up putting in
Speaker 4: a greenhouse. Actually, it was one of the first things
Speaker 4: we put up when we brought the bought the property,
Speaker 4: and that's enabled her to do, you know, get a
Speaker 4: jump start on things, get it from seedlings, et cetera.
Speaker 4: But it surely is a blessing to be able to
Speaker 4: grow your own food. As we mentioned before the podcast started,
Speaker 4: you know, the conversation of health was certainly prevalent in
Speaker 4: the truth community, but post twenty twenty it became kind
Speaker 4: of a headliner of conversation in the truth community. Now
Speaker 4: everybody's very cognizant of what's in foods, what's in beverages,
Speaker 4: and you know, we can have a discussion of whether
Speaker 4: the food industry is simply looking for ways to cut
Speaker 4: corners or is this an intentional cling of the flock,
Speaker 4: if you will.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it seems like it's maybe a combination of both.
Speaker 4: A lot of times, Yeah, I certainly agree. Let's get
Speaker 4: a little bit in your journey to the truth. One
Speaker 4: thing about your your email is that you got you
Speaker 4: travel a lot, and I think it was you were
Speaker 4: listening to a guy throw go through the Book of
Speaker 4: Genesis And was it the way he was presenting it
Speaker 4: or was he presenting it from a flatter perspective? What
Speaker 4: was it that got your attention?
Speaker 1: No, So, yeah, that was just a few months back.
Speaker 1: I work with my father in law and we got you.
Speaker 1: We travel around the state. We do laundry work at laundromats,
Speaker 1: we do installs and repairs, so we got a lot
Speaker 1: of time listens to podcasts or people talk about whatever
Speaker 1: topic we're interested in. And he was listening to a
Speaker 1: guy named Chuck Missler, who very very well read in
Speaker 1: the Bible, and you know, can connect a lot of
Speaker 1: dots and show you all this scripture points to Jesus.
Speaker 1: And it was cool listening to him talk about all
Speaker 1: how these are all just old Testament things, they all
Speaker 1: just point to Jesus. Right, But we're in Genesis and
Speaker 1: of course the creation story, and he is it's not
Speaker 1: from a flat Earth for him, He's into space. And
Speaker 1: how I think he's passed now, but he's, yeah, just
Speaker 1: talking about all this different things. And he even said
Speaker 1: like there's scientists are saying there's ten dimensions or something,
Speaker 1: and just going on and on. And I was so
Speaker 1: we had already been into the flat earth thing for
Speaker 1: about five years. So I was like, man, I can't
Speaker 1: handle just this guy talking and talking. So that day
Speaker 1: I got in my car when I was going home
Speaker 1: and I just went on Spotify and I typed in
Speaker 1: flat Earth. I was like, let's see what comes up.
Speaker 1: And your podcast was the first one to come up,
Speaker 1: and very glad that it did.
Speaker 4: That's interesting. Yeah, I'm looking up. You know. I think
Speaker 4: i've heard his name before, Chuck Missler, and he is
Speaker 4: the chairman. He was in eighty three, became the chairman
Speaker 4: and CEO of Helio Netics, which was a tech company.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he's very much into that type of things.
Speaker 4: It's interesting. I guess he had some failed business deals,
Speaker 4: a prominent Christian Zionist, and then I guess he ended
Speaker 4: up moving to New Zealand at least that's where he
Speaker 4: passed in twenty eighteen. Okay, that's very interesting. But for you,
Speaker 4: what you know, was this flat Earth? Was this your
Speaker 4: first kind of rabbit hole that you would encountered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that this gets into a long story. So
Speaker 1: this is kind of how it all came about. Our
Speaker 1: son whose seven now, was born in twenty seventeen and
Speaker 1: he kind of had a traumatic berth. We didn't know
Speaker 1: anything back then, really, I would say, you know, we
Speaker 1: had the birth at the hospital, My wife had the
Speaker 1: was that epidermal or whatever for numbing all of that,
Speaker 1: and his heart rate dropped and so when he right
Speaker 1: after he was born, they cut his cord right away,
Speaker 1: which later on we're come to find out, yeah that
Speaker 1: court should kind of stay on there for a while
Speaker 1: to finish, uh, supplying iron and all the nutrients and whatnot.
Speaker 1: But they cut it right away, and they took him
Speaker 1: away to the nursery and they had him on antibiotics.
Speaker 1: So then and then at is two months old, he
Speaker 1: had first round of shots I believe it was. And
Speaker 1: then my wife remembers most of this better than I do,
Speaker 1: but he kind of had a fever and she said
Speaker 1: he was just moaning a lot that night and stuff,
Speaker 1: and then so she kind of started looking into the
Speaker 1: vaccines and all that, and that was the end of
Speaker 1: us getting those, but then I don't remember. He must
Speaker 1: have been a little under one. Seemed like he was
Speaker 1: having some acid reflux, so he went on in medication
Speaker 1: for acid reflux. He was on a medication when he
Speaker 1: was in the nursery and he ended up having food allergies.
Speaker 1: He had a severe allergic reactions to cashews one night,
Speaker 1: and that was I had to rush home from work.
Speaker 1: We went to the hospital. By the time anybody saw us,
Speaker 1: his reaction was pretty much over with and they're just said, oh, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: if he needs any or if he has any other issues,
Speaker 1: you can give him some more benadrux. But it seems
Speaker 1: to have calmed down. We're like, wow, that was a
Speaker 1: waste of a couple hours. Then do much for us.
Speaker 1: And then so my wife had started, like I said,
Speaker 1: researching vaccines, and we had gotten away from all that,
Speaker 1: and then he ended up having the food allergies. So
Speaker 1: then he was three years old, and we noticed that
Speaker 1: he was starting to drink a lot of water, like
Speaker 1: more than we do, and he would wet through his
Speaker 1: diaper every night, and we would even put an insert
Speaker 1: in there with the diaper and he would wet through
Speaker 1: both of those. And then we noticed that he's had
Speaker 1: started losing weight. We took him into the hospital and
Speaker 1: he was diagnosed with type one diabetes. His A one
Speaker 1: C was over and normally A one C for anybody
Speaker 1: that doesn't have it as five point seven and below.
Speaker 1: So then it seems like shortly after that we were
Speaker 1: probably in there. Oh, no, COVID had recently started. I
Speaker 1: believe this was March fifteenth to twenty twenty or something
Speaker 1: like that, so it had just started and he had
Speaker 1: to get his nose swabbed or else they wouldn't admit
Speaker 1: him into the hospital, and they wanted all the masks
Speaker 1: and everything. He never had to wear one, but my
Speaker 1: wife and I had to put on the mask to
Speaker 1: walk around the hospital and everything. But so then my
Speaker 1: wife found somebody on Instagram that was really speaking out
Speaker 1: about the vaccines and the dangers of them, and she
Speaker 1: would do a bunch of lives and she ended up
Speaker 1: just going into all these other rabbit holes on her lives.
Speaker 1: And at that point, we were against the vaccines and
Speaker 1: we were starting to see some of the stuff, and
Speaker 1: with my son's food allergies, we were into reading all
Speaker 1: the labels on the food products. So we're already like
Speaker 1: artificial flavors, natural flavors, like what's in those? If it
Speaker 1: was something good, wouldn't they just put it on there
Speaker 1: so they could advertise, Hey, this has XYZ and it's
Speaker 1: good for you by our product. But so then one
Speaker 1: of those times when she was on Alive, she just
Speaker 1: brought up flat Earth and she talked about the firmament,
Speaker 1: and I went and I looked it up in the Bible,
Speaker 1: and I was like, of course it's true. They you know,
Speaker 1: they lay ali to us about everything else, and it's
Speaker 1: right here in the Bible. And I've read this passage
Speaker 1: how many times and I've just never noticed it. And
Speaker 1: so that was really the dive into flat Earth for us.
Speaker 1: My wife went into more of the rabbit holes than
Speaker 1: I have. Maybe she's more qualified to be on here
Speaker 1: with you, but I've been the one that's been drinking
Speaker 1: in all your podcasts and listening to them. So here
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 4: You know, you say, you know you're you're watching this
Speaker 4: live YouTube conversation and flat Earth and the Firmament is
Speaker 4: brought up, and you just immediately, with no defense system up,
Speaker 4: you know, investigated a little further with the Bible in
Speaker 4: tow and you were converted like that. But you even
Speaker 4: with all the you know, I understand kind of the
Speaker 4: things that you overcame and it kind of changed your
Speaker 4: traditional thinking with all of the things that you said,
Speaker 4: you know, had to go through with your little one.
Speaker 4: But still to this day, even people who are who
Speaker 4: have been down all the rabbit holes still have that
Speaker 4: defense mechanism up against flat earth. So how is it
Speaker 4: so just made sense to you, but so many people
Speaker 4: still can't see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I guess there's a few things. I have
Speaker 1: a hole in my ear drum, so I'm very sensitive
Speaker 1: to motions and movements, and if I go on roller coasters,
Speaker 1: I get nauseous. Right, if I go on a swing,
Speaker 1: I can get nauseous. Fifth grade, I threw up after
Speaker 1: just doing a bunch of somersaults in gym class one day.
Speaker 1: So when they always talked about us spinning at you know,
Speaker 1: I don't remember them saying a thousand miles an hour
Speaker 1: or anything in specific, but I'm like, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: I don't feel that, and all the people that are
Speaker 1: standing upside down, and I was like, you know, that
Speaker 1: sounds weird, but I never questioned it. When I was younger.
Speaker 1: I just never thought of it anymore than I guess
Speaker 1: these people know what they're talking about. Why would they
Speaker 1: lie to me? You know? And and then the other
Speaker 1: thing is kind of like helium balloons and gravity is ever,
Speaker 1: why does the balloon go up? If I blow up
Speaker 1: a balloon, it stays down, but it's not strong enough
Speaker 1: to hold up the helium balloon, but or to pull
Speaker 1: down the helium balloon. But it's strong enough to pull
Speaker 1: down the balloon that I just blow up myself, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And there's thousands of examples like that. That again,
Speaker 4: they'll give it. They'll give you a scientific Well, helium's
Speaker 4: lighter than air, okay, but what about the gravity portion
Speaker 4: of it? And the same thing to me, the thing
Speaker 4: like I can I can when I say sorry, I
Speaker 4: just I locked up there. You know. One of the
Speaker 4: things when I mentioned this, I can see it in
Speaker 4: their face and they kind of their brain kind of
Speaker 4: like has a mini explosion, and then they do their
Speaker 4: best to get it out of their mind, you know.
Speaker 4: Skydiving in Australia. Explain the physics of skydiving in Australia
Speaker 4: is they're really a plane flying upside down and people
Speaker 4: are jumping up. I mean, really, how does that work?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: That just that alone, and they think about it for
Speaker 4: a second and they abandon shit before before their brain
Speaker 4: gets you know, turned into a pressol.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just talk about the baseball game instead, right, exactly?
Speaker 4: Yeah, how how about that comeback? Last night? The Orioles
Speaker 4: came back and finally won one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's interesting once you get into this realm
Speaker 4: those type of things. You know, I'll still if that,
Speaker 4: you know, peak on a score or something like that,
Speaker 4: but all of that is really trivia. But I don't
Speaker 4: make fun of people because that's their thing. But I
Speaker 4: do think a lot, you know, like even myself, now
Speaker 4: I'm fifty five, I do reflect like all the all
Speaker 4: the hours and days I've wasted listening like sports radio
Speaker 4: to me now is so trivial, like just listening to
Speaker 4: hours on end of what might happen this weekend, and
Speaker 4: how much of a wasted And again I'm not bashing
Speaker 4: for if that's your passion, that's fine, But to me personally,
Speaker 4: this is George speaking reflecting on all of the hours
Speaker 4: I listened to sports radio and how nonsensical it truly is,
Speaker 4: in my.
Speaker 1: Opinion, yeah, I've been big into sports most of my life.
Speaker 1: I taught tennis. I was a tennis professional for about
Speaker 1: ten years.
Speaker 4: I assume, so I saw yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so but I mean I and I enjoy watching tennis,
Speaker 1: and I still enjoy watching some sports. I've always enjoyed
Speaker 1: watching the NHL. I know, I listened to one of
Speaker 1: your podcasts with a gentleman from Canada talking about that though.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've watched baseball, hockey, football, I've grown up
Speaker 1: watching it all, done some fantasy stuff. But as as
Speaker 1: time goes on and it's like I don't have that
Speaker 1: desire to watch it as much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because of priorities in life. And then you know this,
Speaker 4: to me, this obviously kicked up a pocket, but it
Speaker 4: becomes I took call to hobby I think is undercutting it.
Speaker 4: It's more than just a hobby. You know, ham radio
Speaker 4: is a hobby. But this is because it's a passion
Speaker 4: because you, I think naturally, as you get older, you
Speaker 4: want to seek the truth and it doesn't take a
Speaker 4: whole lot of effort and research to understand well that's
Speaker 4: a lie, that's a lie, that's a lie. Well then
Speaker 4: I should probably look at everything else. Right, So while
Speaker 4: you were talking, I just pulled up an article. It's over.
Speaker 4: I'm just going to read one paragraph over the first
Speaker 4: pardon me. Over the past thirty years, the vaccine schedule
Speaker 4: for infants has greatly increased. Baby's born in twenty seventeen
Speaker 4: can receive as many as thirty six doses of fourteen
Speaker 4: vaccines by fifteen months of age, starting with the HEP
Speaker 4: B vaccine on the day of birth. And I think
Speaker 4: also they do the vitamin K and there's a whole
Speaker 4: rabbit hole with that. But when you look at type
Speaker 4: one diabetes, a big poor part of that is, if
Speaker 4: correct me, if I'm wrong, in autoimmune disorder. And then
Speaker 4: obviously you don't have to research to find very long
Speaker 4: to find out that a lot of these vaccines that's
Speaker 4: a side effect. So is that I guess the link
Speaker 4: that you assume.
Speaker 1: Or yes, definitely, I believe my wife has said she's
Speaker 1: looked at you know, you look at this vaccine. Oh
Speaker 1: what are the side effects? Yeah, type one diabetes is
Speaker 1: right there listed as one of the side effects. You
Speaker 1: go down the list and you just find it again
Speaker 1: and again, and it's like just trying to get people
Speaker 1: hooked up into the system and that they can't leave
Speaker 1: it right.
Speaker 4: There. When I was driving around today, I found a
Speaker 4: young lady who used to be a talking head for
Speaker 4: CBS News investigator reporter, and she brought up that David Bloom,
Speaker 4: who was I think also CBS. He was embedded at
Speaker 4: the beginning of the Iraq War in March April two
Speaker 4: thousand and three. Well, I think while he was actually
Speaker 4: in Iraq, he had a blood clot and died. And
Speaker 4: these reporters are forced to take the same vaccines as
Speaker 4: the soldiers do before they are sent forward. So he
Speaker 4: had gotten the anthrax vaccine and one of the known
Speaker 4: blood clots was one of the known side effects was
Speaker 4: blood clots, and that is something that was covered up
Speaker 4: for a long time. You know, it's an industry that
Speaker 4: is just beyond me, because I will tell you if
Speaker 4: George had a lemonade stand and one out of every
Speaker 4: let's just say, one out of every twenty five people
Speaker 4: got sick from it or had some type of even
Speaker 4: one of the more subtler side effects of vaccines, I
Speaker 4: would be shut down. I'd be fined, I probably would
Speaker 4: be taken to court, and I'd be working the rest
Speaker 4: of my life to pay off these lawsuits. But because
Speaker 4: it's done by a government entity, and that's what they are.
Speaker 4: If you have just unrestricted access, you know, to all
Speaker 4: these funds and you And this is the kicker with vaccines.
Speaker 4: The vaccine companies do their own command and control what
Speaker 4: we you know, we did research and this is what
Speaker 4: we came up with. Why aren't there independent entities going
Speaker 4: into test these before they go public?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, they just get to oh, yeah, here's we
Speaker 1: tested it and it's safe for you and it's effective,
Speaker 1: and but they just set the testing guidelines so it'll
Speaker 1: pass it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now, obviously flat earth is something that's difficult to discuss
Speaker 4: with other people, and we'll get to that. It is.
Speaker 4: I guess waking people up about vaccines just as difficult.
Speaker 4: Or is that just a whole different type of conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think people are a little more open to
Speaker 1: it just because it's I don't know, it seems like
Speaker 1: it's a little more prevalent out there, and more and
Speaker 1: more people are kind of noticing it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess they haven't done as good of a job
Speaker 1: at making you sound crazy if you're an anti vaxxer
Speaker 1: as if you're a flat earther or a flurfer. As
Speaker 1: I was reading the one guy said.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when I've saw recently too, a flurfer. You
Speaker 4: can be a glover or a flurfer. Yeah, And I
Speaker 4: think prior to twenty twenty, is it fair to say
Speaker 4: that you probably it would be much more difficult to
Speaker 4: have this conversation. But I think that the COVID JAB
Speaker 4: was one of the reasons that this has become more
Speaker 4: of a normalized conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. We got a gentleman who owns a laundromat
Speaker 1: by us. After his first dose of the vaccine, his
Speaker 1: health turned south and he's had nothing but complication since.
Speaker 1: And then there's a lady and my wife side of
Speaker 1: the family who lost both her legs of blood clots
Speaker 1: after receiving it.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. Yeah, do they connect the two? Do
Speaker 4: they understand why?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, Okay, they're they're vocal about it now
Speaker 1: and let people know.
Speaker 4: You know, we're focused on so many things and much
Speaker 4: of a trivial I'm very much at the point where
Speaker 4: you know, we do need accountability in this world, and
Speaker 4: it's okay to be a Christian and demand accountability. You know,
Speaker 4: the Bible is very specific about harming our little ones,
Speaker 4: and that is happening too with these uh you know,
Speaker 4: with these with these vaccines, and it just makes me
Speaker 4: very frustrated or frust Yeah, I get very frustrated to
Speaker 4: see this time and time again and to hear these
Speaker 4: stories with no accountability. But still even a lot of
Speaker 4: the people who have this platform, like the young lady
Speaker 4: I was listening to today used to be a CBS reporter.
Speaker 4: She would always up short, right, and she would say,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that I would do anything differently, I'm
Speaker 4: not saying this. They just stop that they don't that
Speaker 4: they're afraid whether it's their paycheck, because I think she's
Speaker 4: still you know, kind of in the journalists, you know, industry,
Speaker 4: that they can't go all the way and say this
Speaker 4: is evil. But even the people with the big platforms
Speaker 4: minus a few people, and there are a few people
Speaker 4: out there, why aren't It's just I don't get it.
Speaker 4: Why more people with the platform aren't being more vocal
Speaker 4: about this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the companies aren't even responsible to pay
Speaker 1: out any of the for the injuries, right, It's.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, the National Vaccine Act of eighty six whatever
Speaker 4: it was. And then for instance, you know the unfortunate
Speaker 4: incidents that you just told me about those two people, Like,
Speaker 4: do they even know to report that to vers like
Speaker 4: the vaccine Reporting system to get you know, that embedded
Speaker 4: in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure if they've done that or not.
Speaker 4: And that's why they say, well, I guess yeah. When
Speaker 4: I used to do the podcast on that, they say
Speaker 4: anywhere between one to ten percent of the people that
Speaker 4: have adverse side effects even reported. So the numbers that
Speaker 4: we see are only between one and ten percent of
Speaker 4: the actual cases. Right, There's a single guy living in
Speaker 4: New York. He gets a jab for his job and
Speaker 4: he passes away. That doesn't get reported. Now in so
Speaker 4: many cases, so many cases at home. Well, I don't
Speaker 4: want to keep running with this. I know you have
Speaker 4: no which direction did you want to go?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can get into the silver bolts and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's start with the six silver bullets that proof
Speaker 4: flat earth for you.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, So obviously the first one would just be
Speaker 1: the Bible, like I said earlier when we had heard
Speaker 1: that live, and she just talked about the firmament, and
Speaker 1: then I went and read about it, it's like it
Speaker 1: seemed plain as day. And then so this is one.
Speaker 1: My second is that I'm reading through the Greatest Lie
Speaker 1: on Earth right now, and they were talking in there
Speaker 1: when they were building the twin towers that all the
Speaker 1: beams were pre manufactured off site, and all the bolt
Speaker 1: holes for all the beams were then pre manufactured off site.
Speaker 1: But by the time you get to the top of
Speaker 1: how tall they were said there should have been three
Speaker 1: sixteenths of an inch difference from the top floor on
Speaker 1: the bottom floor because of the curvature of the earth,
Speaker 1: if you take the eight inches per mile square or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. So I found that very interesting because
Speaker 1: for our work, we put in a lot of machine
Speaker 1: and we bolt those down to bases. Otherwise these machines
Speaker 1: would shake all over the place and go flying. And
Speaker 1: we were putting a couple in today and they were
Speaker 1: just an eighth of an inch off. But I look
Speaker 1: down it and it's it's like, wow, that's a really
Speaker 1: big difference. But if you're talking about however many stories
Speaker 1: a twin tower is, and they had them manufactured before
Speaker 1: bringing them to the site, and they didn't account for that,
Speaker 1: So that one was one that I was like that
Speaker 1: really spoke to me because of the line of work
Speaker 1: that I'm in. Third one would just be the stars,
Speaker 1: and that's something you know, you never really think about,
Speaker 1: as Hey, I see these constellations all the time. And
Speaker 1: but I feel like when I was in school, we
Speaker 1: were taught that or that that we weren't taught that
Speaker 1: the sun was shooting throughouter space. I feel like when
Speaker 1: I was in school, we were kind of taught that
Speaker 1: the Sun is just there and we're all orbiting around it.
Speaker 1: So then they go through and say that we're shooting
Speaker 1: through space, but the stars never moved. They must be
Speaker 1: moving perfectly with us. Fourth one would be that we
Speaker 1: can see too far right. And then you had mentioned
Speaker 1: one of your previous podcasts the rail gun. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was funny because just the week or two
Speaker 1: before that, our vicar was preaching at church, our vicar
Speaker 1: pastor and training right, and he brought up a rail
Speaker 1: gun and he's like, this thing can shoot thirty miles
Speaker 1: the target thirty miles away. It was from a while back.
Speaker 1: I saw they can shoot like one hundred miles away now,
Speaker 1: but I just was like thirty miles away all right,
Speaker 1: So I brought up my calculator really quick, did the formula,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, there should have been like
Speaker 1: six hundred feet a drop or something. Fifth one, and
Speaker 1: I can't remember where I saw this one, but it
Speaker 1: was just kind of like a picture and they showed it,
Speaker 1: I think on the news or something. It was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this time today, the sun will light up roughly sixty
Speaker 1: percent of the earth, you know, and almost everybody will
Speaker 1: be in daylight at the same time. Like, how does
Speaker 1: that work on a ball if how can sixty percent
Speaker 1: of it be lit up? Isn't it always fifty percent?
Speaker 1: And then I guess the sixth one would be the
Speaker 1: go Fast rocket. Oh yeah, and I watched I saw
Speaker 1: on Rumbled Dean Odles he made a little clip about
Speaker 1: that a while back, and just how it looks like
Speaker 1: it stops and then you can see the moon off
Speaker 1: in the distance, and at that time of day, I
Speaker 1: think it was supposed to be over Australia. So those
Speaker 1: are my six and then I kind of had This
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily a proof or a silver bullet, but there's
Speaker 1: just an observation that I've seen is that when I
Speaker 1: look at the clouds and you just kind of have
Speaker 1: a bunch of clouds out there. It just looks like
Speaker 1: a blanket and they just look flat as well. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever noticed that, or if anybody
Speaker 1: else has talked about that on this before, but it's
Speaker 1: you know, and you can see clouds for a long
Speaker 1: time away, and if you're driving down the Expressway and
Speaker 1: you're looking at a cloud, it takes you miles and
Speaker 1: miles to get to that. So yeah, I guess those
Speaker 1: would be my silver bullets.
Speaker 4: Outstanding ones too, particularly the Go Fast rocket, which we
Speaker 4: is something we haven't talked about, I feel like in
Speaker 4: a while. And if you're new to the podcasts, two things.
Speaker 4: Number one, after you're done listening to this podcast, please
Speaker 4: go back and start with episode number one, Why the Lie.
Speaker 4: And number two, I will put this in the show notes,
Speaker 4: the Go Fast twenty fourteen rocket that went up and
Speaker 4: it just stopped and it hit the firmament, and it
Speaker 4: just stopped. Rockets that they you know, anybody who's launched,
Speaker 4: you know, maybe for a science project. It goes up,
Speaker 4: it stops, it comes down. This stopped abruptly like it
Speaker 4: had breaks because it hit the firmament. That is a
Speaker 4: great one to point out. By the way, I just
Speaker 4: went on eBay while you were talking. There's lots of
Speaker 4: science textbooks for sale from the thirties, forties, and fifties.
Speaker 4: Very reasonable. I'm going to order a couple when we're
Speaker 4: done this conversation and just kind of browse through them
Speaker 4: and see if what they were teaching, if there was
Speaker 4: a shift, right, because certainly there was a shift in
Speaker 4: the history. I want to see how those numbers were
Speaker 4: in science class. But yeah, going off what you said,
Speaker 4: we're moving at one thousand miles an hour, and I'm
Speaker 4: talking about clouds here when you mentioned the clouds, we're
Speaker 4: moving at a one thousand miles an hour. We're orbiting
Speaker 4: the Sun at right here, this is from Google, sixty
Speaker 4: six thousand, six hundred and sixty seven miles an hour,
Speaker 4: and the Sun in the entire Solar system is moving
Speaker 4: through the Milky Way at an estimated speed of forty
Speaker 4: three miles an hour. That the clouds are just floating
Speaker 4: above our heads, right And they said, with all these
Speaker 4: motions combined, and this is Google telling me this, the
Speaker 4: Earth's overall speed through space is about five hundred and
Speaker 4: forty thousand miles per hour.
Speaker 1: I showed that picture of that to my son one
Speaker 1: day and I was and then I was just kind
Speaker 1: of joking around, and it's like, where's God in this?
Speaker 1: And I told him I wish I was better at
Speaker 1: making like graphics or a gift or something like put
Speaker 1: him on his throne with like little jet rockets on
Speaker 1: his throne keeping up with it or something. So that
Speaker 1: was that was another reason that kind of I accepted
Speaker 1: flat earth so quickly. It was very comforting to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it feels intimate and God's right there watching over us.
Speaker 1: I always wondered, well, where is he? And I feel
Speaker 1: like there's something in aiding people that we're always like
Speaker 1: where's heaven? Heaven is up, where's Hell? Hell is down?
Speaker 1: But how does that work on a globe?
Speaker 4: That's right? And then you look at the old illustrations
Speaker 4: of above the firmament is heaven just as described in
Speaker 4: the Bible and shield below us. There's a reason we
Speaker 4: look up when we pray, and there's a reason, you know,
Speaker 4: we point down for Hell and the globe doesn't. Is
Speaker 4: nonsensical when it comes to that stuff, And it's amazing
Speaker 4: that a lot of people get like ken Ham, And
Speaker 4: I don't mean to keep abusing mister Ahm, but I
Speaker 4: see him on social media every day and I just
Speaker 4: want to reach out to him.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: They can poke it. They can see the fallacies of
Speaker 4: the Big Bang and evolution, but they just can't see
Speaker 4: God's creation as it is described in the Bible and
Speaker 4: even Genesis two to one. Thus the heavens and the
Speaker 4: earth were finished. They were finished, and it's very clear
Speaker 4: that the earth is fixed and does not.
Speaker 1: Move, and it was created before the sun.
Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, sir, yes, sir. I have been going line
Speaker 4: by line in the Bible using them what is it
Speaker 4: the Blue Letter Bible, And anytime there's a word you're
Speaker 4: not sure about, you click on it, you know, either
Speaker 4: the Greek or Hebrew word, you know. And then even firmament,
Speaker 4: there's a there's a Greek version of that word and
Speaker 4: it's exactly the same, stands still firm right, even Greek
Speaker 4: and Hebrew is very clear about you know, there is
Speaker 4: a solid expanse above us that is retaining the waters
Speaker 4: above us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one thing I wanted to ask you, or
Speaker 1: what I just ordered a King James Bible, not too
Speaker 1: long ago, but I was just curious, is there a
Speaker 1: specific one that you used? Did you get one from? Like?
Speaker 1: What are they? Is it sixteen eleven? I think it
Speaker 1: was the year or something or I.
Speaker 4: Have a just a standard King James Bible, not the
Speaker 4: New King James, just a standard King James Bible. Then
Speaker 4: I have a Geneva fifteen sixty Bible, and then a
Speaker 4: listener thank you very much. About two weeks ago sent
Speaker 4: me a Geneva fifteen sixty edition large print so as
Speaker 4: I get old, and because the Geneva Bible that it's
Speaker 4: tucked away over there, very small print and it's difficult
Speaker 4: for me to read, he sent me a giant just
Speaker 4: a giant version of the Geneva Bible, which includes the
Speaker 4: fourteen books of the Apocrypha in it, but it's much
Speaker 4: easier to read.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was looking at the King James Ones with
Speaker 1: the Apocrypha added to it and going through some of
Speaker 1: the comments and the people like, oh no, don't get
Speaker 1: this one. It's got third Macabees in it, and they're
Speaker 1: like that's not in the original and this and that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, the way I look at it is, you know,
Speaker 4: canon is canon, and then everything else is supplemental.
Speaker 1: Right, we'll go out and buy a book by some
Speaker 1: Christian author today and read in.
Speaker 4: Precisely then, yeah, in parts of the knowledge that you believe
Speaker 4: is good for you and you know and not And
Speaker 4: every chance I get, I shared this book. This is
Speaker 4: called disciple shift. And you know I'd mentioned to you
Speaker 4: I just started with grad school, and I was very
Speaker 4: empathetic trying to tell everyone this is the way the
Speaker 4: church should be going. I don't know how, you know.
Speaker 4: I pray that your area is thriving, But in our area,
Speaker 4: there's a very old aged con congregation in many of
Speaker 4: our churches, and it's because we're not creating new disciples.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do have a few little ones running around
Speaker 1: our church. We have R two and my brother has
Speaker 1: three kids, and we have some other friends around our age.
Speaker 1: But it's it's sad to see our confirmation numbers just
Speaker 1: dropping down every year. When I was in seventh and
Speaker 1: eighth grade getting confirmed there, we must have had twenty
Speaker 1: plus kids in ours and now it's maybe four. But
Speaker 1: then looking back at my confirmation, I don't know if
Speaker 1: anybody else is still coming to that church right from
Speaker 1: my confirmation group.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and unfortunately, we've already mentioned COVID two or three
Speaker 4: times in this conversation. I think one of their many
Speaker 4: goals was to divide people from the church the physical
Speaker 4: you know, fellowship with each other. And still to this day,
Speaker 4: you know that I've heard people firsthand said, worst verbatim, Josh,
Speaker 4: this is we're staying away from church this week because
Speaker 4: there's something going around. And this is within the last
Speaker 4: six weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that said thankfully our church. I'm I don't
Speaker 1: recall our pastor ever saying we're closed, don't come here,
Speaker 1: but you know, everybody steered clear. But just maybe a
Speaker 1: month he's like this, this isn't right. I miss my
Speaker 1: congregation being here. And you know, he came out and said,
Speaker 1: if you want to be here, come here. We're worshiping.
Speaker 1: So we were there that next Wednesday and Sunday and amen.
Speaker 1: Now I just got to get them to flat earth.
Speaker 4: You know, to all the listeners. If you if you're
Speaker 4: in the area and you want me to come out
Speaker 4: on a Wednesday night and give a presentation, I would
Speaker 4: be more than happy to. And it's important to know
Speaker 4: your your your audience, and obviously being in a church,
Speaker 4: you want to present it from a biblical presentation, right,
Speaker 4: a biblical background. But you can certainly use you know,
Speaker 4: the things that we talk about on a regular basis,
Speaker 4: the numbers. Right. How silly is that when I say
Speaker 4: all of these things, right, how fast? We're going five
Speaker 4: hundred and half a million miles an hour? And then
Speaker 4: you walk outside and you see a butterfly in the clouds?
Speaker 4: Aren't And then people try to explain it. But bro
Speaker 4: Bill Nye, the science guy said, and it's just like.
Speaker 1: Stop, Oh I loved Bill Nye or Neil de Grass.
Speaker 1: So he tells you it's like you're on a cruise ship, right,
Speaker 1: just because it's smooth, you can't feel it, right.
Speaker 4: And trust me, I've been on a cruise ship. You
Speaker 4: can feel it. You can you can feel it, trust me.
Speaker 4: And I've been on very large planes. You can feel
Speaker 4: that you're moving. You know when you're moving for sure?
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. But that is something that I hope that we
Speaker 4: can normalize, is just to have this conversation amongst right,
Speaker 4: the people who we worship with. This is not some
Speaker 4: type of you know, you know air quote, just deep conspiracy.
Speaker 4: And you know we walk in with our tinfoil hats
Speaker 4: on but that that is how much effort they put
Speaker 4: into it is just you even bring it up from
Speaker 4: people and you may not hear from them for weeks,
Speaker 4: and you know they're calling your friends saying, hey, is
Speaker 4: Josh all right? He mentioned something about flat earth to me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a few friends that would be like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that sounds about right, sounds like him. I go around
Speaker 1: and tell them some of my friends like they're sick.
Speaker 1: I was like, Ah, throw some potatoes or onions in
Speaker 1: your sock overnight and it'll kind of pull some of
Speaker 1: the toxins out of here. You'll be good in the morning.
Speaker 4: There you go. One thing I wanted to talk to
Speaker 4: you about because you are just about in that age
Speaker 4: demographic where you were at a very formidable growing stage.
Speaker 4: You were seventh eighth grade when nine to eleven happened,
Speaker 4: and you mentioned that it did have a pretty significant
Speaker 4: impact on the way you looked at things. Were you
Speaker 4: also did they at what point did you actually watch
Speaker 4: the event? Was it in school or did they get
Speaker 4: you all home? How did that whole day work out
Speaker 4: for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I believe it was seventh grade. I can't remember
Speaker 1: exactly because I had that teacher in seventh day and
Speaker 1: eighth grade. I can remember his name to this day.
Speaker 1: It was my social studies teacher, second hour, and we're
Speaker 1: just sitting there and another teacher comes in, opens the
Speaker 1: door and he says, plane just hit the Twin towers.
Speaker 1: So they I hadn't never even heard of the Twin
Speaker 1: Towers at that point in my life, and they wheel
Speaker 1: a TV in there, and yeah, we're watching it, and
Speaker 1: that's I don't believe we got sent home that day,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that was I just couldn't fathom something like
Speaker 1: that at that age, someone doing flying a plane into
Speaker 1: the towers and killing all these people.
Speaker 4: You know, that's so interesting because you know, when I
Speaker 4: was in high school, they wheeled in the TV for
Speaker 4: the Challenger. It was at eighty six. Every single classroom
Speaker 4: across America had a TV in their room because there
Speaker 4: was a teacher on the Space Shuttle, so every school was.
Speaker 4: It's interesting. However, the course of the years of course
Speaker 4: there was about it. It was at a fifteen year disparance
Speaker 4: between the Challenger, which I believe was eighty six and
Speaker 4: the nine to eleven was zero one, so about fifteen years.
Speaker 4: And it impacted different generations and you know, I had
Speaker 4: a deep conversation just about a month ago on my
Speaker 4: other podcast about two women with two women who kind
Speaker 4: of pull people out of this fear based mind control situation.
Speaker 4: Many from government entities, right MK ulture type of people,
Speaker 4: and that is how they do it, whether it's a
Speaker 4: mass fear based incident like nine to eleven or the
Speaker 4: Challenger or something like that, or just local individual you know,
Speaker 4: to scare people to control them.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: It's it wasn't until I started to figure out how
Speaker 4: the world worked, which unfortunately it took that for me
Speaker 4: to get back into the Bible and study it and
Speaker 4: read it over and over and to continue to strive
Speaker 4: to search for the truth. And it's sad that we
Speaker 4: as people. I think I can speak for a lot
Speaker 4: of people, although I'm just speaking for myself that you know,
Speaker 4: we have had these symbolic shifts in our lives that
Speaker 4: cause us to go back to the book and whether
Speaker 4: it's flat Earth or nine to eleven or COVID, you
Speaker 4: know these things, I think people either go one way
Speaker 4: or the other, and I think most of the people
Speaker 4: who are listening to this podcast chose to go towards
Speaker 4: the Bible and seek the truth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely brought me more inclined to reading the
Speaker 1: Bible and digging into a deeper and just understanding more
Speaker 1: of what God has given to us. You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked with a lot of people who are
Speaker 4: eighties and nineties kids, and we had a little bit
Speaker 4: of a different Like we didn't have these huge things.
Speaker 4: It seemed like it didn't really start until the nineties, Right,
Speaker 4: you had Waco and Oklahoma City, and then you had
Speaker 4: Columbine in April twentieth of nineteen ninety nine, the nine
Speaker 4: to eleven, then Wars, and then the collapse of the
Speaker 4: housing market. Like you've lived most of your whole life going,
Speaker 4: you know, have experienced all this trial and tribulation with mankind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely been interesting times to live in, as
Speaker 1: they say, But I feel like I don't know, not
Speaker 1: that I was sheltered or anything, but you know, we
Speaker 1: had we had our life. We never were like evicted
Speaker 1: from anything. We always had food on the table, roof
Speaker 1: over our heads. We had our friends that we went
Speaker 1: to school with and hung out with, and that was
Speaker 1: just kind of our life. And it's almost seemed, you know,
Speaker 1: like a different country or something. Some of that stuff happening,
Speaker 1: and because that's not what was reflected in our lives.
Speaker 4: That's great points. And now that you know you're a
Speaker 4: father and you have two little ones to look out
Speaker 4: for and protect, did you ever stop and think like
Speaker 4: a lot of what you're doing now as far as
Speaker 4: truth seeking is trying maybe to spread awareness, to get
Speaker 4: other people aware and create a domino effect to where
Speaker 4: you can make a better life for your little ones
Speaker 4: when they get older, when you hand the world off
Speaker 4: to them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and I told my wife, we need to
Speaker 1: keep having more so we can have more people to
Speaker 1: know the truth. Right, got to build the God's kingdom
Speaker 1: for him. And that's what they don't want us to
Speaker 1: do is have more kids. So we got to stick
Speaker 1: it back to them and just have more kids and
Speaker 1: teach them the truth. But it's funny. I wanted to
Speaker 1: share this story with you. I think it was just
Speaker 1: last week. I was still at work, but usually so
Speaker 1: I have two older brothers. Usually the middle brother two
Speaker 1: of his three kids come over and stay the night
Speaker 1: Friday to Saturday. Well, the day or two after that,
Speaker 1: my dad informed me that my son went to his
Speaker 1: his one cousin who's two years older than him, and
Speaker 1: he just walks up to him, you know, not thinking
Speaker 1: of anything. Now in the middle of any conversation, he goes, hey,
Speaker 1: do you know what shape the earth is? And he says, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's round. My son goes, no, it's flat with a
Speaker 1: dome over it, and he comes back, No, it's round. No,
Speaker 1: it's flat with a dome over it. So yeah, our
Speaker 1: son is definitely one that will go out there and
Speaker 1: spread the truth and not be ashamed of it. Or
Speaker 1: but yeah, I want to share that story with you.
Speaker 4: That's awesome because here's the thing. If you normalize these
Speaker 4: things in your household, that that's normalizing it in their lives, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we just you know, we throw on
Speaker 1: a movie or something we'll do, like a pizza in
Speaker 1: a movie night and it's throws the globe on there
Speaker 1: as the introduction, and we'll be like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: this is what they teach that they think the earth
Speaker 1: looks like, or this is what they want you to think,
Speaker 1: but we know that it's not shaped like that.
Speaker 4: It's important. I've really learned, even within the last month
Speaker 4: or two, how important if you have an opportunity to
Speaker 4: drop a nugget drop it. Like I mentioned to someone
Speaker 4: like within the last forty eight hours, I forget where
Speaker 4: I was that, you know, I just said, hey, did
Speaker 4: you know Christmas was illegal until you know, the mid
Speaker 4: eighteen hundreds, And they just looked at me like what
Speaker 4: they didn't get it. And it's it's a combination of
Speaker 4: everybody is so caught up in the in the matrix.
Speaker 4: They don't have to research and learn. You can call
Speaker 4: it true history, you can call it alternate history or
Speaker 4: whatever it is. But you know, the people who control
Speaker 4: the world are very selective about what is taught in schools. Right,
Speaker 4: most people don't know about the Great Awakening here in
Speaker 4: the United States and the mid seventeen hundreds, and it
Speaker 4: just so happened that shortly after that, you know, we
Speaker 4: had a war, you know, a revolutionary war to take
Speaker 4: back our freedoms, even though before that certain religious groups
Speaker 4: weren't even allowed to be lawyers or hold office things
Speaker 4: of that nature. So it's very interesting when I dropped
Speaker 4: these things, I hope it gives them enough. And it
Speaker 4: may not be that bread crumb, but if people hit
Speaker 4: enough things that challenge their traditional thinking, I think it's
Speaker 4: human nature for them to be curious and maybe, just
Speaker 4: maybe they'll they will take some time and hopefully when
Speaker 4: they research, they don't go to Google. But you know,
Speaker 4: I enjoy doing that and just dropping nuggets here and there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and that's definitely something that I would like
Speaker 1: to get better at and kind of trying to find
Speaker 1: some other or some new bread crumbs or something. I
Speaker 1: have a friend who I believe he has his pilot's license,
Speaker 1: and so you know, I got a group chat with
Speaker 1: him and one other friend from high school and I
Speaker 1: just ask him there one day and do you have
Speaker 1: to nose down to adjust to the curve? And I
Speaker 1: can't remember exactly what he said, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that bread crumb did anything. But on to the next one, right.
Speaker 4: He's like, I just put it on autopilot. I don't know, right,
Speaker 4: So here's one for you. And again, it is interesting
Speaker 4: because you can present it in church. But I also
Speaker 4: get it because you know, I'm in little rooms with
Speaker 4: people and we talk about scripture, and it's so interesting
Speaker 4: that somebody can see a verse or two, no it
Speaker 4: means this, and so oh no, what it actually means
Speaker 4: is this, And I say, you know, there's a reason
Speaker 4: we have two thousand denominations just because everybody either A
Speaker 4: perceives it differently or b there's something that worldly that
Speaker 4: that the Bible offends them and they want to be
Speaker 4: able to explain it their way out of it. That
Speaker 4: that's kind of the way I look at at it.
Speaker 4: But if you're going to add to that, go ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I just I think it
Speaker 1: might have been on your podcast. Somebody there was like
Speaker 1: a gathering of a bunch of different denominations. They're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got Lutheran's, Presbyterians, Baptists. You know, somebody's got to
Speaker 1: be wrong, right.
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. But you would think, like you
Speaker 4: said in the church, and you mentioned this in the
Speaker 4: email Joshua ten thirteen, right, the sun and moons standing still,
Speaker 4: and you know why didn't if we are spinning, why
Speaker 4: didn't Joshua ten thirteen say, you know that he stopped
Speaker 4: the rotation of the earth, And you had mentioned that,
Speaker 4: you think you had actually heard pastors talk about it,
Speaker 4: and they used the excuse, you know, it was really
Speaker 4: the earth that stopped, but they just didn't know it
Speaker 4: at the time. And I have in and now I'm sure.
Speaker 4: There was a time when I got these explanations from pastors.
Speaker 4: I just bought off on it, right, didn't think twice
Speaker 4: about it. But now as I get older and I'm
Speaker 4: more in the book and I do research, it's almost like,
Speaker 4: wait a second here, you're saying that people who God
Speaker 4: trusted to share his word didn't know what was going
Speaker 4: on in the time. Are you sure that that's the
Speaker 4: road you want to go down?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, That's just one of the main points that
Speaker 1: I like to go is just God knows what he
Speaker 1: wants to communicate to us, right, and it's it's all
Speaker 1: comes back to it's how God made it right, and
Speaker 1: He's not gonna lead us astray in that.
Speaker 4: And I do get the fact that God is all
Speaker 4: encompassing and he can control everything. But you made it
Speaker 4: a great point, and it's been brought up before that.
Speaker 4: You know, a simple Google search of what will happen
Speaker 4: if the Earth stops will show you that there would
Speaker 4: be catastrophic damage if it were spinning at one thousand
Speaker 4: miles an hour and suddenly stop, right, and other things
Speaker 4: that are in motion having to stop, the solar system,
Speaker 4: the orbiting of the Sun and everything else that that
Speaker 4: goes on with it, and you talk about Accam's razor,
Speaker 4: which is the simplest explanation, is usually correct. And if
Speaker 4: you just go back to Genesis and see that he
Speaker 4: placed the sun and the moon in the firmament and
Speaker 4: he just stopped them, that first makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: With all their science and stuff, they're always they always
Speaker 1: have to explain it one more thing, right, or they
Speaker 1: always have to have the refraction that's why you can
Speaker 1: see this, or it's always one more thing instead of
Speaker 1: just okay, I can see that because there is no
Speaker 1: curve that makes sense to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, And that's the thing. We can defeat their narrative,
Speaker 4: with their rules, with their science.
Speaker 1: Right Yeah. I love using and like you mentioned all
Speaker 1: the time, just using their math against them that they
Speaker 1: don't even know their own math, right yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I looked into because the great question is how
Speaker 4: can we get a mass awakening? So I had an
Speaker 4: idea to I thought about, well, I could raise money
Speaker 4: and get a billboard because in the summer, you know,
Speaker 4: Delaware is a huge beach stop. People travel down from
Speaker 4: New York, New Jersey. We have fabulous, fabulous beaches here.
Speaker 4: The main road that people take to go down to
Speaker 4: the beach. I looked up it's like five thousand dollars
Speaker 4: for thirty days and it rotates. It's like a digital billboard.
Speaker 4: But how do you think that would impact people? If
Speaker 4: it's just a complete normy who and here the people
Speaker 4: at Delaware are huge live music aficionados. They're very much
Speaker 4: into the normy way of life. How do you think
Speaker 4: they would react if you saw is just simply you know,
Speaker 4: the earth is flat and though a few Bible verses
Speaker 4: up there, do you think you know what percentage of
Speaker 4: people would actually challenge off the top of your head
Speaker 4: if you had to.
Speaker 1: Guess, uh, guess five kind of I've heard a lot
Speaker 1: of different things. You know, there's like ninety five percent
Speaker 1: and five percent, and I think but five percent out
Speaker 1: of how many people see that, I could still be
Speaker 1: a substantial number, right, yeah.
Speaker 4: And and I could even see the media because that
Speaker 4: is something our local media would would swoon down upon.
Speaker 4: Just in the way of the world is everything is
Speaker 4: a story for twenty minutes now, And I could see
Speaker 4: how you know, the local news media would hijacket and
Speaker 4: say it was, you know, a practical joke and hah, Now,
Speaker 4: to sports Phillies win again. Right, it's just another thing.
Speaker 4: But kicking it to you, have you ever thought about
Speaker 4: different ways that we could impact the people around us,
Speaker 4: whether it be like that or you know, can grassroot
Speaker 4: things like billboards and and you know, like the little
Speaker 4: flyers I'm to hand out? Is that something or is
Speaker 4: this such a complex subject where you really need to
Speaker 4: it has to be more of a personal type of interaction.
Speaker 1: Well, just kind of going at it from my perspective
Speaker 1: and how I told you it it it was quick
Speaker 1: for me, right, So I think it just really varies
Speaker 1: person to person. You're going to have those people that
Speaker 1: are going to need more concrete evidence in this and that,
Speaker 1: and then there are people out there that will be like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is what God's word says, And I didn't realize
Speaker 1: that for all these years. So yeah, I think kind
Speaker 1: of it just depends on the person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know I've mentioned that before. You're one
Speaker 4: hundred percent correct that there is no one stop solution,
Speaker 4: whether it's physically or mentally. Right, We're all different, We're
Speaker 4: all built differently. You know, some people love pizza, some
Speaker 4: people hate pizza. It's just the way we're wired. I
Speaker 4: just feel like we're in so just over the last
Speaker 4: five years, right, you see how kind of the veil
Speaker 4: has come off of these evil peoples. They just don't care.
Speaker 4: They're like, this is who we are, this is our agenda,
Speaker 4: and we don't care what you think anymore. And it just,
Speaker 4: I guess bothers me a little bit to see how
Speaker 4: many people just accept the way the world is today.
Speaker 4: Go on full circle back to what you mentioned twenty
Speaker 4: minutes ago or so about the depopulation agenda, about the
Speaker 4: normalization of abortion, calling it healthcare. I got very mad
Speaker 4: in an email conversation with a listener, how very angry
Speaker 4: I get when they call that healthcare. And the first
Speaker 4: rule of the Georgia Guidestones is, you know, keeping the
Speaker 4: world's population at five hundred million. So like they get
Speaker 4: to choose who can have the children, just like they
Speaker 4: got to choose whose businesses were allowed to stay open
Speaker 4: during COVID, And they invert everything the Bible says, the
Speaker 4: Lord tells us to go forth and multiply. And I
Speaker 4: can tell you that there are thousands of websites and
Speaker 4: nonprofits who are all in it to hey, hey, we
Speaker 4: need to slow it down. And they just slob or
Speaker 4: all over China's One Child agenda and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, going along with what you said, he just
Speaker 1: inverts everything. One of the other things that I really
Speaker 1: wanted to touch on was the fresh milled flour and
Speaker 1: the bread and what does it say, What does Jesus
Speaker 1: call himself the bread of life? And what is demonized
Speaker 1: by a lot of the health and everything is all
Speaker 1: the carbs and specifically bread. A lot of times cut
Speaker 1: out the bread. Can't have any bread. Bread's bad for you.
Speaker 1: But we've found in our lives that getting the fresh
Speaker 1: milled flour and grinding it ourselves and cooking it like that,
Speaker 1: it has been wonderful for us. And with our son
Speaker 1: have Type one, he gets a lot of blood work
Speaker 1: done every three to six months a lot of times,
Speaker 1: and they're just monitoring these levels and we haven't changed
Speaker 1: anything except for this, and all his numbers are coming
Speaker 1: into perfect range without doing any supplements or this or that.
Speaker 1: It's just fresh milled flour.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I think i'd mentioned to you when you
Speaker 4: talked about that. I know my wife gets her wheatberries
Speaker 4: from I can't remember the name of the place for
Speaker 4: her birthday. Last year, we got her a I think
Speaker 4: it's called a neutral mill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's one of the popular ones.
Speaker 4: And it is very loud. It is two stones grinding
Speaker 4: against each other. It's very loud. But the bread is
Speaker 4: just incredible. But like last night, she took out a
Speaker 4: steak and cut it up very thinly and just fried
Speaker 4: it up on the stove and then she made i
Speaker 4: don't know, just like homemade tortillas from the flour and
Speaker 4: we just wrapped it up in ate them and it
Speaker 4: was and again, yeah, the stuff that you buy, whether
Speaker 4: it's bleached flour or you know, all the other things
Speaker 4: that go along with the wonderbread or whatever bread that
Speaker 4: they're selling today, it's not really good for you. But
Speaker 4: bread is, like you said in John six thirty five,
Speaker 4: Jesus declares, I Am the bread of life, and that's
Speaker 4: what communion, right, Bread and wine, that's what it's all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like to call the stuff at the
Speaker 1: store dead bread.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's a really good podcast. The lady knows
Speaker 1: fresh milled flour very well. It's called The bread Becker's Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you've heard of it. Her name
Speaker 1: is Sue Becker, and she's got one hundred some episodes
Speaker 1: talking about all the different benefits of it and kind
Speaker 1: of how they went along this road. And it's similar
Speaker 1: to the pasturization of milk, right yeah. Oh, if we
Speaker 1: pasteurize it, it's safer for you, but they kill all
Speaker 1: the good stuff in it. So for flour, there's three
Speaker 1: parts to it. You got the brand and the germ
Speaker 1: and the endosperm and what you're getting in the store.
Speaker 1: They take out the brand and the germ, and they
Speaker 1: found out that hey, if we just leave the endosperm,
Speaker 1: it's a lot more shelf stable, and then we can
Speaker 1: use this bran and german. We can sell it for
Speaker 1: other things too, so we can make profits off both
Speaker 1: and just give them the endosperm. But it doesn't have
Speaker 1: all the nutrients in it that God put in there
Speaker 1: for your body to use it all.
Speaker 4: I'll put this website in the show notes. It's the Breadbeckers.
Speaker 4: You can shop online, you can call them, and then
Speaker 4: they actually have their episodes right on the same website.
Speaker 4: They're up to one hundred and sixty eight one hundred
Speaker 4: and sixty eight episodes, everything from bread to is white
Speaker 4: rice better than brown rice? So if you want to
Speaker 4: get into this. It looks like a very very good
Speaker 4: tool for your toolbox.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And she's got a YouTube episode or video that's
Speaker 1: about three hours long. I think it's called like Real Bread,
Speaker 1: The Staff of Life or something, and she will hit
Speaker 1: on most all the parts that I mentioned there, plus
Speaker 1: a lot more. She just got story after story about
Speaker 1: how these people are going and they have all these
Speaker 1: issues or diseases and they seek out medical help. And
Speaker 1: there's this one young girl fifteen years old who had
Speaker 1: like over five hundred warts on her body and she's
Speaker 1: trying all this stuff and this and that, and the
Speaker 1: mom was just she didn't know what to do. And
Speaker 1: I think she said she just said a prayer at
Speaker 1: and there were all these different meetings going on or something.
Speaker 1: And she goes in and watches Sue Becker's talk and
Speaker 1: she's like, oh, how much does the grain mill cost?
Speaker 1: And she tells her the price is like, I've spent
Speaker 1: more than that in the last couple of weeks on
Speaker 1: the medication that doesn't work. I bet they start milling
Speaker 1: their own flour. Two and a half weeks, all five
Speaker 1: hundred of her warts are gone.
Speaker 4: Are you serious? Just from the changing of the diet
Speaker 4: in the bread.
Speaker 1: Yep. Wow, yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Have you ever looked at this Ezekuela mix.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't purchased that before. All we've done is
Speaker 1: hard white wheat.
Speaker 4: That's interesting. There's like even beans in this bread.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that sounds good.
Speaker 4: Wow, this is a very impressive website. I'll have to
Speaker 4: check it out and maybe even reach out to her
Speaker 4: and have her on someday.
Speaker 1: Yeah. She's wealth knowledge. She's into her seventies now. I
Speaker 1: believe she was a food scientist. I think she said
Speaker 1: she worked for Craft for like five years or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 4: Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she's got tons and tons of testimonials on
Speaker 1: all of this and just a wealth of knowledge. And yeah,
Speaker 1: she'd be a great one to have on to talk
Speaker 1: about this. Well.
Speaker 4: Another thing that is catching a little traction here in
Speaker 4: Delaware just recently, I think within the last six months,
Speaker 4: they finally legalized the retail sale of raw milk that
Speaker 4: this county. You know that there's three counties in Delaware,
Speaker 4: two of them are mostly rural areas, and thankfully to
Speaker 4: the people this organic push, we were able to get
Speaker 4: the sale of raw milk passed and right it's all
Speaker 4: this reverse. Oh you know, if you pasteorize it and
Speaker 4: you heat it up, you're not going to get sick
Speaker 4: from it. But the reason people were getting is because
Speaker 4: the milkman would come and leave the milk on your
Speaker 4: front step and it would sit in the sun for
Speaker 4: two or three hours, right right. And the other thing
Speaker 4: that we really need to have a conversation with about, sorry,
Speaker 4: is keeping our beverages and foods in plastic, the petroleum
Speaker 4: based products, especially what we drink, because the most you know,
Speaker 4: absorbed portion is the skin and the mouth, right, and
Speaker 4: we just drink the stuff that has been sitting against
Speaker 4: this plastic. And just imagine a raw milk and a
Speaker 4: glass jug. I mean, that's that's that's living.
Speaker 1: That is Yeah. No, I really wish they could sell
Speaker 1: raw milk in the stores here. They can't. We have
Speaker 1: a herd share though. We get four gallons a week
Speaker 1: and we just pay them for We pay every month
Speaker 1: to have a share of the cow, kind of like
Speaker 1: we own part of the cow. We get four gowns
Speaker 1: of raw milk every week. We make our own yogurt
Speaker 1: with it, and my daughter just likes to drink it
Speaker 1: like that too, and or milk and a fresh milled
Speaker 1: flour muffin or something, and.
Speaker 4: Are you able to make butter from it or does
Speaker 4: it have to be a certain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can make butter from it. So we get
Speaker 1: some pretty thick cream on top, right exactly, kind of
Speaker 1: scrape the cream off and then yep, yep, or scrape
Speaker 1: the cream off, makes some homemade ice cream.
Speaker 4: That's fantastic. That's and that's really what we need to
Speaker 4: get back to. You know, you hear the stories, Well
Speaker 4: when you find out that chickens in California are sent
Speaker 4: to like what was the story, They're sent to China
Speaker 4: to be profit, to be processed, and they send them
Speaker 4: back to be sold in the stores. And you can
Speaker 4: see that on your fruit too, right, bought in Argentina,
Speaker 4: packaged in Brazil and things of that nature. It's just absurd.
Speaker 4: And you talk about terrain theory, I do believe that
Speaker 4: a one of the reasons why we do get sick
Speaker 4: is because we don't consume products that are local to us.
Speaker 4: Because what did they tell you when you get sick?
Speaker 4: Oh did you find local honey?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 4: Local?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Yeah, thankfully we have a nice local place
Speaker 1: to get our raw honey as well. I'd love to
Speaker 1: do more stuff like have the bees. I know you
Speaker 1: guys just.
Speaker 4: Got and yeah, well we get them Sundays and we
Speaker 4: pick them up, Sonny on Mother's Day morning, we pick
Speaker 4: them up. I got my bee suit today, though, I'm
Speaker 4: all fitted and ready to be ready to go. My
Speaker 4: wife is at hers.
Speaker 1: Good luck with that, I've heard it can be challenging,
Speaker 1: especially the winter months.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep, for sure. She has been studying up for
Speaker 4: two years. And Lord willing the colonies grow and they
Speaker 4: stay healthy and eventually wearable to you know, share honey
Speaker 4: with not just us, but with their family and friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it'd be great. And the raw honey, right,
Speaker 1: that's right? How they label everything raw milk, raw honeys?
Speaker 1: I guess we raw flour and it's but it's And
Speaker 1: I saw a video on Instagram. I think it was
Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty popular going around as just
Speaker 1: a guy out and feel is that. You know what
Speaker 1: if we just instead of calling them organic carrots, they
Speaker 1: were called carrots, and then the regular carrots, we called
Speaker 1: them chemical carrots because that's what they are.
Speaker 4: Right, That's that's awesome, right? Why do we have to
Speaker 4: add an asterisk to something that is just created normally.
Speaker 4: Why don't we add the asterisk to something that is
Speaker 4: not organic, that is gmo. Those are the things that
Speaker 4: should be have. Like if you buy a box of cereal,
Speaker 4: it should have a huge pink or red asterisk on
Speaker 4: it and say, you know this is GMO. There's a
Speaker 4: good chance there's uh, you know, Monsanto products in your
Speaker 4: corn flakes.
Speaker 1: Right's just getting back to having everything the way God
Speaker 1: made it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, and that that is part of post
Speaker 4: eighteen seventy with the industrial revolution. Has it required more
Speaker 4: manpower and it did in some way a long, slow,
Speaker 4: ardious process of destroying community because that's community depend on
Speaker 4: you know, farmer John was doing the wheat, the other
Speaker 4: guy was meet the other guy was your dairy. Like that.
Speaker 4: That's the way it was with my mom growing up.
Speaker 4: She grew up in a rural area and there was
Speaker 4: everybody had their different things and they had a farmer's market.
Speaker 4: And that's when that's where you know, farm to table
Speaker 4: was established. Now it's it's a novelty. Oh this is
Speaker 4: farm to table. That's exciting, right, That's the way people lived.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the way it was meant to be Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to make sure. Was I saw your notes?
Speaker 4: Was there anything else that you wanted to get to?
Speaker 1: Yeah, my notes are kind of scattered all over the place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I guess there's a couple more things, but they're
Speaker 1: kind of just all over the place.
Speaker 4: Fine, that's fine.
Speaker 1: One other thing going back to like how we can't
Speaker 1: feel the earth spinning and all that, it's have you
Speaker 1: ever gone on the Gravitron carnival ride?
Speaker 4: Is that the one where the floor drops and you
Speaker 4: stick to the wall. Yeah, yeah, sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah I went on that one. It's oh man, you
Speaker 1: can tell you're moving for sure. That's right. Yeah. Gravity
Speaker 1: is wonderful when it works how it's supposed to.
Speaker 4: And I'm pretty sure that's a thousand miles an hour.
Speaker 1: No, not even anywhere close. And yeah, I got off
Speaker 1: of that and I felt nauseous.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 4: I bet with that issue you have, I bet you
Speaker 4: were nashes And to the listeners, yes, that that guy
Speaker 4: out there, Yeah, that is a trifugal force, but it's
Speaker 4: the same. The spinning theory is what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: And I one of your recent podcasts, I heard you
Speaker 1: guys talking about the Truman Show and stuff, and I
Speaker 1: haven't seen now, but is that one in a dome
Speaker 1: or something?
Speaker 4: Oh, you haven't seen The Trueman The True Man Show.
Speaker 4: That's you know, just like when Gene Hackman died. It's funny.
Speaker 4: Everybody's like, well if you break down his name, Geene
Speaker 4: hack Man, right, because now that's what they're altering jeans.
Speaker 4: But it is very much That's one of my three
Speaker 4: go to truth secret movies. Like I always tell people,
Speaker 4: go watch They Live from nineteen eighty eight, and go
Speaker 4: watch The Matrix, which, by the way, Neo's passport expires
Speaker 4: on nine to eleven, two thousand and one. I'm sure
Speaker 4: that's just a coincidence. And then The True Man Show,
Speaker 4: which number one. His life is a show we live
Speaker 4: you know, all the world as a stage. As they say,
Speaker 4: a light falls from the set. You know this guy basically,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not giving away any movies here, but
Speaker 4: this guy is born into a TV show and he
Speaker 4: doesn't know what everything is staged all around him. And
Speaker 4: then he slowly and surely starts to find out that
Speaker 4: all the world's a stage. And at the end he's
Speaker 4: on a ship and he runs in to a board
Speaker 4: and just walks out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you ever seen the Hunger Games movies?
Speaker 4: So I know I remember the I saw the first
Speaker 4: one and I might have gone. I usually sleep in
Speaker 4: the theaters.
Speaker 1: It's very relaxing.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
Speaker 4: My wife gets mad because I'm usually snoring, but I do.
Speaker 4: I do kind of remember the first one, and a
Speaker 4: lot of people point to that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The second one, it's called Catching Fire, uh huh. And
Speaker 1: the arena that I don't remember the names. The twelve
Speaker 1: people that are fighting against each other are in is
Speaker 1: a dome and Catnus takes an arrow and shoots it
Speaker 1: up into the top of the dome and breaks it.
Speaker 4: Real.
Speaker 1: That's one that I would Yeah, they like get this
Speaker 1: long piece of wire as a conductor too, because lightning
Speaker 1: strikes at a certain time in the day and she
Speaker 1: shoots it up there and she gets it times it
Speaker 1: so the wire goes through the arrow as it hits
Speaker 1: the dome there and it kind of breaks it.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of numerology with this book and the movie.
Speaker 4: It was released on eleven twenty two. There's your thirty three,
Speaker 4: and that's the same date as Kennedy. They say the
Speaker 4: book is sold as nineteen million copies. Nineteen is a
Speaker 4: very big number with it, and it was six months
Speaker 4: after winning the seventy fourth Hunger Games. And of course
Speaker 4: seven to four is G D A B C D
Speaker 4: e FG. There's your D and four is D. You
Speaker 4: know Hebrew has no O. So that's the God number
Speaker 4: right there. District twelve, right the twelve bloodlines, the twelve Apostles,
Speaker 4: And that's like the first paragraph of this Wikipedia page
Speaker 4: that that's how much goes into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was been a while since I've seen those movies.
Speaker 1: That was back before I was into any of this.
Speaker 1: That's funny you bring up thirty three. I was just
Speaker 1: we were working the other day and it's at a
Speaker 1: launder matt so they got a TV on for background
Speaker 1: noise and everything. It's just got the news on and
Speaker 1: I'm not really listening, but they just start saying something
Speaker 1: about the radio and what age do people like stop
Speaker 1: just listening to whatever's on the radio or something, and
Speaker 1: what age did they come up with? Thirty three?
Speaker 4: Thirty three?
Speaker 1: I was like, what are the chances of that?
Speaker 4: By the way, I think her father Susanne Collins, the
Speaker 4: who wrote the book, and this goes back to Dave McGowan,
Speaker 4: all the famous musicians from the sixties. Their parents were Cia.
Speaker 4: Her father was an officer in the Air Force, and
Speaker 4: he was stationed in Brussels, which is where NATO is.
Speaker 4: So who's to say that he wasn't a prominent guy.
Speaker 4: He was a thirty year military guy, So chances are
Speaker 4: that he was part of the club, if you will say,
Speaker 4: and she probably is too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, how else do you get that many copies
Speaker 1: sold of your book?
Speaker 4: That's right, man, I got to go down another rabbit
Speaker 4: hole tonight. I got to finish reading this good job.
Speaker 4: What were your other no? She had?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So looks like just going to the topic of
Speaker 1: how they're always trying to divide us one from the other,
Speaker 1: left from right, Democrat from republican, liberal from conservative, And
Speaker 1: obviously a lot of the times on this podcast we
Speaker 1: say we line up more with the conservative values. But
Speaker 1: when I was teaching tennis, I was out in the
Speaker 1: Lansing area here in Michigan, which is the capital, so
Speaker 1: plenty of Democrats and liberals and stuff, and and I
Speaker 1: taught some classes of for adults, just beginners and stuff,
Speaker 1: and and those ladies and there would just go on
Speaker 1: and on and on about all the leftist stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: and they were very heavily left leaning and Democrats, but
Speaker 1: I'll tell you they're some of the nicest people I've
Speaker 1: ever met in my life. And it's and it's and
Speaker 1: I've heard you mentioned this before, and I've mentioned this
Speaker 1: to other people, and I'd say it's ninety five to
Speaker 1: ninety eight percent of the people in the world are
Speaker 1: good natured people, yep, right, and there's just that few
Speaker 1: that aren't. But they want to make you think that
Speaker 1: that number is very different, right, yep.
Speaker 4: And you know, everybody has a bad day. You can't
Speaker 4: even judge person on a one time interaction with them
Speaker 4: because maybe they're just having a bad day, you know.
Speaker 4: And I'm here to tell you there's a lot of
Speaker 4: people having bad days right now, specifically financially. So you're
Speaker 4: one hundred percent correct. Most people are just trying to
Speaker 4: raise their family the best they can. You know, everybody
Speaker 4: is flawed. Everybody has their you know. You know a
Speaker 4: lot of people have addictions that they're struggling with and
Speaker 4: they're just trying to make it to tomorrow and they
Speaker 4: hope they have a little bit of money left over
Speaker 4: to make their children's lives better, or take a vacation
Speaker 4: or something. But that is a big part of the matrix,
Speaker 4: is to keep people in debt and struggling. The harder
Speaker 4: they work, the more disconnected they become from family because
Speaker 4: it's more time away they're trying to make ends meet.
Speaker 4: So unfortunately, that's where we're at right now. But yeah,
Speaker 4: even the classic liberals of twenty years ago are mostly
Speaker 4: you know, conservative. You know, it's just crazy how the
Speaker 4: shift has happened. One side has gone one way, one
Speaker 4: side's going another way. And I think it's also were responsible.
Speaker 4: If I could just add this last portion and just
Speaker 4: to say three hundred and thirty million people, you're one
Speaker 4: or the other, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. And going with that, how you're saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty years ago and versus now, It's like liberals back
Speaker 1: then are more conservative than some of the conservatives we
Speaker 1: have nowadays. I heard the Hemp was running eight years
Speaker 1: ago or twelve, whatever it was. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's running as a Democrat, right, Like, no, he's a Republican.
Speaker 1: I was like, are you sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah. His Secretary of Commerce, Wilbur Ross, was a lifelong
Speaker 4: Democrat from the late fifties until twenty seventeen. And he
Speaker 4: just woke up January twenty seventeen and said I'm Republican
Speaker 4: now and took over a Secretary of Commerce. By the way,
Speaker 4: this is a kind of a big if I don't
Speaker 4: mention this, this is a big easter egg. I had
Speaker 4: heard this before, but I forgot. Susan Collins, the author
Speaker 4: of The Hunger Games. She lives in Sandy Hook in Newtown, Connecticut.
Speaker 4: She moved there back in two thousand and three. We'll
Speaker 4: leave that at that. The Hunger Games it's about children
Speaker 4: hunting each other, and she just happens to live in
Speaker 4: Sandy Hook. Nothing to see her.
Speaker 1: Yeap.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Another coincidence. You got that coincidence?
Speaker 2: Jar? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Another? Uh, here we go, put a couple in there.
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 1: I heard somebody say a long time ago, people, the
Speaker 1: coincidence was there just way of you know, explaining God away,
Speaker 1: so you don't have to accept the truth of that.
Speaker 4: That's a great point. Yeah, and anything. And most of
Speaker 4: the time people don't want to acknowledge God because it
Speaker 4: would alter their worldly ways, and they have vices that
Speaker 4: they don't want to give up. And if they acknowledged
Speaker 4: God and knew they had to change, they wouldn't right.
Speaker 4: They would rather enjoy worldly things than inconvenience themselves with
Speaker 4: the word of God, which if you're listening, you know
Speaker 4: none of us are guaranteed tomorrow. Not trying to end
Speaker 4: on a down note, but it's just a fact. And
Speaker 4: don't put off giving your life to the Lord to tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Do it now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. They make that too fun though, Like you
Speaker 1: were talking about, they don't want to change because it's
Speaker 1: what they're in is too fun. I used to play
Speaker 1: Xbox quite quite often, five six, seven nights a week,
Speaker 1: especially during COVID. I wasn't considered essential, so our tennis
Speaker 1: club was closed for I don't remember, maybe four or
Speaker 1: five months or something. So I was sitting around and
Speaker 1: my friends were playing Xbox, and I just get on
Speaker 1: there and hop on there and it was fun, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, And that's.
Speaker 1: How it is. You get out of your reality and
Speaker 1: you just have some fun.
Speaker 4: Yep. And we all do need an escape sometimes. You
Speaker 4: got to have that habit for sure. Well, I'll tell you, Johns,
Speaker 4: it's been in a great conversation and we've connected a
Speaker 4: few dots and we brought a lot of things up
Speaker 4: for the listeners to chew on and to pontificate. And
Speaker 4: with that, I want to thank you for joining us tonight,
Speaker 4: and as we wrap it up, as always, i'd like
Speaker 4: to give you the final word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1: First off, I've really enjoyed your podcast. Like I said,
Speaker 1: when I just typed in flat Earth and your podcast
Speaker 1: came up, I'm very thankful that it did, and thankful
Speaker 1: for all the people that come on here and do
Speaker 1: this conversation with you. For sure, it's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons I wanted to come on, just because I always
Speaker 1: look forward to the next person that you're having on
Speaker 1: to talk with them. But I guess the last thing
Speaker 1: I would say is it just all comes back to
Speaker 1: God and God's word and and what I really like
Speaker 1: to emphasize people, especially because we're more of the health side.
Speaker 1: I guess a lot of times for the conspiracy quote unquote,
Speaker 1: and it just comes back to is it got? Is
Speaker 1: it how God made it for us? Did he make
Speaker 1: cows give pasteurized milk or did it just come out
Speaker 1: raw like that right? Or did he make the flour
Speaker 1: just the one part of it or did he put
Speaker 1: all three parts together, because they're all vital for us.
Speaker 1: So I guess that would be my last thing is
Speaker 1: just make sure you're trusting in God and not in man.
Speaker 1: Like you always bring.
Speaker 4: Up Amen, and you can apply that to so many things,
Speaker 4: whether it's our bodies, whether it's our foods or the
Speaker 4: water right the floridas. How man alters everything that God
Speaker 4: has given us. And you know, they say a lot
Speaker 4: of it is far betterment, but I do think a
Speaker 4: lot of it is just like we say, the inversion
Speaker 4: of what God gave us. But it is through people
Speaker 4: like yourself, Josh, and all the other people who have
Speaker 4: come on over the last two and a half years
Speaker 4: to share their journey to the truth and their knowledge
Speaker 4: and their wisdom to make it a better community. So again,
Speaker 4: I thank you for coming on this Friday evening and
Speaker 4: sharing your story with everyone. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Josh, thank you, God bless you.
Speaker 4: I bless you, and to all the listeners, God bless you.
Speaker 4: Have a wonderful week. And I can't thank you enough
Speaker 4: for your continued support. And if you'd like to share
Speaker 4: your journey like Josh did tonight, f E files guest
Speaker 4: at gmail dot com for Josh. I'm George. Everyone have
Speaker 4: a great week. God bless you. Keep your head on
Speaker 4: a swivel until we meet again, my friends, we will
Speaker 4: see you.
Speaker 2: I know it's been struggle. I don't know you've had spain.
Speaker 2: I know you feeling tied. Tell down all the way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know you.
Speaker 5: Feeling all you smile ain't the same I saw ware
Speaker 5: go for you feel like.
Speaker 2: You've lost your way. Don't give it. No, don't give in.
Speaker 2: Never is home. Don't let all the primise. It ain't
Speaker 2: done yet. He's got up, glad, Why it's a way?
Speaker 3: Got up?
Speaker 2: Let me come?
Speaker 3: Why wait?
Speaker 2: God up m I can see the street beside you.
Speaker 2: Child's are putting up five. Oh, you're stronger than any thing.
Speaker 2: You are. Yeah, you're gonna be all right. You're accepting
Speaker 2: a dead found beautiful. You're shoving ride. Yeah, you're living, breathing, moveing.
Speaker 2: You can hold your head a pie. Don't give up. No,
Speaker 2: don't give in. Never loves home. Don't they go on
Speaker 2: the primies.
Speaker 6: It ain't Dunion's god or Clay Why a waintail the
Speaker 6: god of maybe come, don't give up, No, don't give
Speaker 6: in he never lives home.
Speaker 2: Don't let go on the primis. It ain't gone life,
Speaker 2: It's worth living.
Speaker 3: What's a waytail the God of baby Court. Why sur
Speaker 3: pray down? God Steamy Colt? Oh yeah, what's a pray down?
Speaker 3: The God of baby Colt, Oh yeah, gott Tavy Colt. Oh,
Speaker 3: don't give up.
Speaker 7: No, don't give in, never this whole, don't let go
Speaker 7: of the primise me and done. Yes, God a plane watching,
Speaker 7: God of if it colls and don't give up, No
Speaker 7: dog giving, Never the hole, don't let go of the primes.
Speaker 2: It ain't done.
Speaker 8: Lovers worth living, Watch and Doe, the god of every Cols, Oh,
Speaker 8: the God of need Cos.
Speaker 2: Watch done, the god of a coach.
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