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<v Speaker 1>Hi final hour with a program on this Monday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>We have done something a little unique today, back to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of our regular scheduled programming for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the week. I was out Thursday of Friday last week,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was not able to be on air after

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<v Speaker 1>the passing of frank Leyden last week at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of ninety three, so we are honoring his life in legacy.

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<v Speaker 1>Phil Johnson joined us. Scott Layden live in Vegas, Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Checkets live in New York. Richard Smith is good enough

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<v Speaker 1>to join us in studio live in Salt Lake. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we go across the ocean to the Rock where the

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<v Speaker 1>great Ron McBride is good enough to give us some

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<v Speaker 1>time on a Monday afternoon. Coach Mack, how are you, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>Good? How'd you guys doing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're good, We're good. I'll just ask you the same

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<v Speaker 1>question I've asked all my guests. What was it like

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<v Speaker 1>to be frank Leyden's friend?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Man, he was special and ill A number of

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<v Speaker 2>things that in favors he did for me over the

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<v Speaker 2>last thirty years or artist unbelievable because whenever you call

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<v Speaker 2>him for something, he always said, no problem, I got

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<v Speaker 2>you and even when he started out, he still showed up.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think in the last ten years we had

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three events and he showed up for twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>of them. And the only ones he did show up

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<v Speaker 2>was this year because unfortunately was on a huge declaim.

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<v Speaker 3>The coach. It's really nice for me to take a

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<v Speaker 3>few minutes to visit with us about about Frank today.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell us, tell us about the unique relationship that you

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<v Speaker 3>two had, because I've been fortunate to be around you

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<v Speaker 3>guys in some public settings and also private get togethers,

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<v Speaker 3>and and you guys always just seemed to have a

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<v Speaker 3>unique special bond that goes beyond sports but was more

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<v Speaker 3>of just a personal thing involving just how you felt about.

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<v Speaker 2>Each other about it was a personal thing. And and

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<v Speaker 2>we we did a lot together. You know, he had

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<v Speaker 2>dinners together, events together, Uh, games together. You know. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't I can't tell you how many times he spoke

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<v Speaker 2>to my football teams. And it was awesome pre pregame

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<v Speaker 2>speaker and and it's funny, you know, and and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just he he had a way of of

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<v Speaker 2>reaching every every situation. Then you know, he had a

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<v Speaker 2>way of just okay, what what what's what do you

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<v Speaker 2>got to get get across there? What do you need

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<v Speaker 2>to say? And then I'd say, Frank, if you cover

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<v Speaker 2>this and this and this, and then he gave him

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<v Speaker 2>ideas and then he would just take it from there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. He was he was funny, he was he

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<v Speaker 2>was passionate, he was you know, he was everything you

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<v Speaker 2>could ask in a in a person. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>just was uh and we had you know, we had

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<v Speaker 2>a great relationship probably from day one. You know. I

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<v Speaker 2>come omber the first time when they when the jazz

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<v Speaker 2>came here and and I said, who's the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>makes all the decisions? They who are getting Frank Layton?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, I need to get hold myself. I

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<v Speaker 2>need to see if I can we can buy some

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<v Speaker 2>tickets for some recruits we have coming in and to

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<v Speaker 2>see whether so I called. I said, so, I called him,

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<v Speaker 2>and he got on the phone. They were talking and

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<v Speaker 2>yucking it up, and I said, look, I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>got these. I got a few guys. He said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how many tickets do you need? And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know we could use around thirty And he says,

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<v Speaker 2>what time can you be here? I said, And from

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<v Speaker 2>that time on, you know, I mean we became became

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<v Speaker 2>great friends, and and that spends alone, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. And and he always you know, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter what the community asked him for, he always did.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't matter what, you know, he was. He was

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<v Speaker 2>great with the with the team, great with the players,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was great with my players. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't ask for a better person. And and him passing,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a huge boy in my life because I was

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<v Speaker 2>very dependent on seeing him and and uh, you know

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<v Speaker 2>just uh he was. He's just one of those unique

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<v Speaker 2>people you know that you that you come across in

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<v Speaker 2>your life guard Well, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Coach, uh you you and Vicky were some of the

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<v Speaker 3>last people to be able to visit with him. And

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<v Speaker 3>and uh, I know you guys had such a such

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<v Speaker 3>a close, uh close bond, you know, with the Leaden

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<v Speaker 3>family and uh and it's just so heartwarming to see

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<v Speaker 3>that how you guys always uh interacted with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so I had I forget what you have

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<v Speaker 2>been in the night he passed away. I have been

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<v Speaker 2>doing something pretty much all day and when I when

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<v Speaker 2>I got home, I said, I said to Vicky Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, you know, we need to go on the

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<v Speaker 2>seafront because I don't think he's I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing I don't think I don't know what. So we

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<v Speaker 2>my daughter Kelly said, Okay, you guys, get in the car.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll drive you up. And I could tell that that

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<v Speaker 2>you know that, you know he was he was not

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<v Speaker 2>going to make it, you know he was. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just heartbreaking because he fought this for a long time

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<v Speaker 2>and what you can tell you you know he was

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<v Speaker 2>he was satisfied with with with what he did in

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<v Speaker 2>this life.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach. I've been asking people this question all day, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course most people know Frank is a great coach

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<v Speaker 1>and a very funny personality. But upon his passing, he

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<v Speaker 1>and Barbara were married sixty eight years. I wonder what

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<v Speaker 1>sort of insight you have as far as your friendship

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<v Speaker 1>with them as a couple and Frank as a husband.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we did a lot of things with him as uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we got to eat kind of a and

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<v Speaker 2>Vicky would happen once with Barbara and a group of ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>They're using me, you know, once or twice a month,

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<v Speaker 2>and they kid and Barbara were real close. And and

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<v Speaker 2>then of course we have the old timers lunch, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that that that he done, that put together and

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<v Speaker 2>that was and I, you know, I'd always show up

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit late, and I would always stay afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's when we that's when we'd have our real

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<v Speaker 2>conversations after once was over and kind of everybody was gone,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Smitty would stay, Frank would be there, I

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<v Speaker 2>would be there, and then we get down to serious,

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<v Speaker 2>serious business of what was going on. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>loved to talk to baseball, you know, he's a baseball fanatic,

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<v Speaker 2>love to talk about his hometown and uh, and his

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<v Speaker 2>his love for Barbara was just uh unique, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, such a great relationship and and uh and

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<v Speaker 2>how much he depended on on on her and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it just was you know, it's just you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to say except I know that that

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<v Speaker 2>at least a huge voyd And uh he was a

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<v Speaker 2>huge supporter of my foundation for kids, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>always always great with that any just anything anything you want,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and and uh a very intelligent man, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just just as far as you know anything about you

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<v Speaker 2>talk anything about sports and uh and politics, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was he was he It's fun to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>about politics here he and my wife were on the

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<v Speaker 2>same wavelength, you know, and on politics, so so that

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<v Speaker 2>that was always an interesting conversation between Vicky and Frank

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<v Speaker 2>about you know, the today's today's world, about what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on and uh and uh he had opinions and

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<v Speaker 2>she had opinions. But uh, it was I mean, what

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<v Speaker 2>what can you say? I mean, this guy thought there

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<v Speaker 2>was a ever day one since since the jazz came here.

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<v Speaker 2>When I got to know him, we were instant, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we had an instant connection. And if I could ever

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<v Speaker 2>do anything for him or he needed me for something,

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<v Speaker 2>I was always glad to do it. But but his

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<v Speaker 2>his favorite saying all the time was you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>closing a phone call or or or when you're getting

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<v Speaker 2>ready of leaving, or what can I do for you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>That was his. He said, Well, just let me know

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<v Speaker 2>what I can do for you. And I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to do anything for me. Well make sure

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<v Speaker 2>you if you need something, just tell me and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it. And I can remember Schmitty would bring him

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<v Speaker 2>to two events and he'd say, Wow, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how long I can stay, but I'll stay until until

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<v Speaker 2>you say I can go, you know, I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you go wherever you want to go. But he'd hang

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<v Speaker 2>and he hang and hang, and he'd be there just talk.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd greet everybody when they came in, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he just uh he gave up his time and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he loved to talk to people. He was a great,

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<v Speaker 2>great communicator. Uh. You know, I had a great belief

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the in the jazz, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>obviously they they practed some great players during this time

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<v Speaker 2>and and they were able to develop these guys and

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, make it a make make us

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<v Speaker 2>a great a great product. And uh you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>with the event of John and Carl and Jeff and

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<v Speaker 2>that group, and you know, there was a special group

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<v Speaker 2>of players here yea.

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<v Speaker 3>Coach uh shifting gears for just second, we need to publicly,

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<v Speaker 3>uh congratulate you on your selection to be uh inducted

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<v Speaker 3>into the Utah Ring of Honor at the University of Utah. Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell tell us a little bit about that, about your uh,

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<v Speaker 3>how you got the phone call, how you found out

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<v Speaker 3>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We were we were at a event, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>our and I think it was our uh you know,

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<v Speaker 2>our golf our golf tournament. Then we had a deal

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<v Speaker 2>on Friday night, so the Mark Harlan had called uh

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<v Speaker 2>Vicky and said, make sure the coach is on time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking, why is the athletic director that you

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<v Speaker 2>don't worried about it from out time to the event. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I get on but he says, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>be on time to this event. I said why, said,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. I thought, well, maybe they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take my tickets away from you know. So so

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<v Speaker 2>then uh Mark Mark said, hey, I like to make

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<v Speaker 2>an announcement, you know, I be home. My god, what's

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<v Speaker 2>what's this going to be? And he says that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>coach Max went into the ring up honor them and

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<v Speaker 2>the job was just so you know this this uh

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<v Speaker 2>excited about it and and appreciative and uh uh I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it to them, particularly to the uh to the

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<v Speaker 2>players that played for me, and and the and the

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<v Speaker 2>and the families that that that built you know what

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<v Speaker 2>started day and and players and you know, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we had a we had a vision a long time

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<v Speaker 2>ago of what this place could be and uh and

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<v Speaker 2>and the vision is still right there, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>and and Kyle obviously has has done a great job

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<v Speaker 2>and and to take it to the next step. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's hired the right people and he got you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a great you know, most of less defensive staff that

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<v Speaker 2>played at Utah and and uh and and then in

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<v Speaker 2>the desire the new offensive coordinator whim running back coach

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Kukus and you know, so they got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people that I know quite well that are working

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<v Speaker 2>for him in their home. They're all happy, and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to go anywhace else and they're committed to

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<v Speaker 2>what Kyle's vision is at the University of Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Coach Mac, thank you so much for your time

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<v Speaker 1>on this very special day. We will set you loose,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy Hawaii and say travel sir. Okay okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to say then closing that how much

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<v Speaker 2>I love Frank and how much I'm missing and he

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<v Speaker 2>was a real guy, you know and smite but you

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<v Speaker 2>did for him in the last twelve years thirteen years

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<v Speaker 2>of taking care ofing, being his sidekick, being there all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I can't tell you, uh how much all

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<v Speaker 2>of us appreciate what what what you did for what

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<v Speaker 2>you did for him, especially through the tough times. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what tells you a lot about people, is what

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<v Speaker 2>you do when somebody can't do something for you, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna thank you. Thank you for giving up for

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<v Speaker 2>yourself and caring about front.

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<v Speaker 3>Very kind of your coach, Thank you for those words.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, have a good have a good day, you guys,