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<v Speaker 1>Let's put BK on the shelf. Cowboy Karen is taking over.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what time? It is? Tea time. Howdy y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome into tea Time.

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<v Speaker 2>You are in the zone of Brandon Kravitz and sweet

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<v Speaker 2>tea Tyler Karen, and it's Draft Day, baby, best day.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the year. They say.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they say, not what I say, Brandon, and

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<v Speaker 2>don't look at me. I'm just saying what the people say.

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<v Speaker 2>NBA Draft, the most important draft in sports and the

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<v Speaker 2>best night of the year. So the people say, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just reading the text there five er eighty five to seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, right, yeah, I know I see that one

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<v Speaker 3>right there, right there and right next to the Easter

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<v Speaker 3>Bunny is real.

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<v Speaker 2>And no that is not my tech, not my phone

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<v Speaker 2>number on the text line. Okay, it got even better, Tyler.

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<v Speaker 3>The day h your Super Bowl got even better because

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<v Speaker 3>I won my bet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the under has cashed.

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<v Speaker 3>OYO was a close, though as close as it could get,

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<v Speaker 3>over under six and a half on Pirates Brewers, and

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<v Speaker 3>we landed at six a four.

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<v Speaker 1>To two finished, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go four to two finished, Paul Schimes four runs.

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<v Speaker 2>But the under cash, Let's go Coffee's on me all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Um So, NBA Draft tonight. I like to consider myself

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<v Speaker 2>a draft guy. I listen to a lot of other

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<v Speaker 2>people that are actually draft guys, that have inside information

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<v Speaker 2>from around the league. I'm constantly reading about the NBA Draft.

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<v Speaker 2>You can be as sure and as certain as you

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<v Speaker 2>want heading into draft night, but the one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>is guaranteed is that you can't expect the unexpected. Something

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<v Speaker 2>crazy is going to happen tonight, and that includes blockbuster

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<v Speaker 2>trades and the Magic obviously involved in a big trade

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<v Speaker 2>this summer sent getting Desmond Baine and sending out all

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<v Speaker 2>of those picks, including the sixteenth overall pick in this draft.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Magic are left with twenty five, and tonight

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<v Speaker 2>the Magic will make a selection with a twenty fifth

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<v Speaker 2>overall pick. It goes back to I believe it's the

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<v Speaker 2>Stepian Steepian, I'm not sure exactly how you say it rule,

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<v Speaker 2>which essentially prevents NBA teams from trading their first round

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<v Speaker 2>pick in back to back years.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The way around it is the old hat swap on

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<v Speaker 2>draft night where the Orlando Magic make this selection for

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<v Speaker 2>this other team, and then a trade pens later on

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<v Speaker 2>so that's how It doesn't mean that the Magic will

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<v Speaker 2>end up with whoever they pick out twenty five, but

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<v Speaker 2>they will be making their selection on twenty five with

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<v Speaker 2>next year's pick tied up in the trade. So earscer,

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<v Speaker 2>is it was next year's dealt to Memphis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's go with We're gonna do some mock trades

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<v Speaker 2>that all involve the two thousand or the twenty fifth

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<v Speaker 2>overall pick for the Orlando Magic tonight, and we'll also

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<v Speaker 2>get into some names, some guys that Brandon and I

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<v Speaker 2>would like the Magic to draft, as well as names

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<v Speaker 2>that we do not want to see drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna start with some mock trades, b K.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tease them up to you, involving a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of different teams, a couple of different different returns, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can just hit me with a yes, you would

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<v Speaker 2>want the Magic to pull the trigger on this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's number one and number two. Is it likely? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you see the other side saying no, We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>through him.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first trade, we got Sacramento Kings on the

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<v Speaker 2>line and Orlando saying, hey, Sacramento, we will give you

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<v Speaker 2>go give a Tase Jet Howard, who is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be very popular in this exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just young piece, good contract. He's easy to throw

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<v Speaker 1>in trades.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifth pick, the forty sixth pick and the fifty seventh pick,

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<v Speaker 2>the first rounder, the twenty fifth pick, and the two

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<v Speaker 2>second rounders form Aleak Monk.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I do that in a second. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would the king say as to that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know a lot of these are fan made,

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<v Speaker 2>So shout out to the fans out there.

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<v Speaker 1>This you didn't create.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't create this one. No, okay, no, yes? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you say yes to that immediately and figure the rest

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<v Speaker 3>out later? How do you bring Malik Monk off the bench?

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<v Speaker 3>This team legitimately could be the favorite to win the

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<v Speaker 3>Eastern Conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Replace Gogabtase Mo Wagner on a sign and trade deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Mo Wagner Jet Howard twenty five forty six fifty seven

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<v Speaker 2>for Malik Monk.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Mo. I would still do it. I still

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I tend to agree if you can get Malik Monk

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<v Speaker 2>and not these guys are valuable pieces to the rotation.

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<v Speaker 2>Malik Monk is more valuable piece that are to their rotation,

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<v Speaker 2>So I agree, move on fan created trade number two.

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<v Speaker 2>The Utah Jazz receive Wendell Carter Junior Jet Howard twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fifth pick, the forty six pick, Andy fifty seventh pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, this is gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Dell Jet twenty five, forty six, fifty seven for Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Clarkson and Walker Kessler. No, I want to again, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a fan made trade. Your thoughts on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I would do that too. Jordan Clarkson gives

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of what you're getting with Malik Monk. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think as efficient, but still a scorer off the

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<v Speaker 3>bench that can get you a bucket. The Magic don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of that right now, so that's helpful.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a veteran, he's he's been playing in Utah for

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<v Speaker 3>the last couple of years, so he can't be that

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<v Speaker 3>bad in terms of attitude, but I don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>for sure. And then Walker Kessler is the room protector

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<v Speaker 3>that you want. He's one of the best shot blockers

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<v Speaker 3>in the league. I would do that. I would definitely

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<v Speaker 3>do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I believe the finances of it would work. Now

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<v Speaker 2>Here is where I don't think that Utah accepts it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Walker Kessler will be a part of

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<v Speaker 2>their future. And I also think that for Orlando. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you, I think you'd really be putting

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<v Speaker 2>yourself in a in a rough cap situation moving forward,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think Walker Kessler he's entering the final year

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<v Speaker 2>of his rookie deal and which meaning he will be

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<v Speaker 2>extension eligible very soon, and I think that Utah will

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<v Speaker 2>try to get him on a good extension. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to get the max rookie extension, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be looking in the ballpark of about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five million dollars a year for a guy like

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<v Speaker 2>Walker Kessler. And I don't know if Orlando is going

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<v Speaker 2>to have the wiggle room in order to get that

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<v Speaker 2>deal done. Can you afford a center for twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars a year and still have room to make

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<v Speaker 2>a bench unit behind it?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. So that's why that's another reason

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think the deal would get done.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not really even thinking about this in realistic

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<v Speaker 3>sentences because I don't have the contracts in front.

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<v Speaker 1>Of me and all of that. It's just do I

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<v Speaker 1>want the players? Sure? Is the play?

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<v Speaker 3>Is the player swap worth it? And then figure out

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<v Speaker 3>the finances later. I'm signing off on that aspect of it. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>here's the thing with Walker Kessler. He doesn't help you

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<v Speaker 3>with the floor spacing issue. Wendell Carter Junior is supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to because he can shoot the three. He's willing to,

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<v Speaker 3>but he hasn't been good at it, and when he's

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<v Speaker 1>And then he's just standing there and we don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's not as good.

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<v Speaker 3>As of a defender as Walker Kessler.

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<v Speaker 1>So give me what I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know I'm getting with Kessler, and and then with Desmond

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<v Speaker 3>Baine that helps the floor spacing. And then you add

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<v Speaker 3>the bench piece in Jordan Clarkson. That's enough to get

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<v Speaker 3>me over the over the hill on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>One more. You got Phoenix on the line there.

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<v Speaker 2>Act, We'll give you your center that you desperately need and

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<v Speaker 2>Wendell Carter Junior, and we'll give you twenty five for

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<v Speaker 2>Grayson Allen in twenty nine. That's interesting. Not a big

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<v Speaker 2>Grayson Allen guy. Don't love him, don't hate him. He's

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<v Speaker 2>all of the products from Jackson. Well, you get twenty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>you still have goga. I'm assuming in this situation. You

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<v Speaker 2>would be bringing Mo Wagner back, so you have two centers.

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<v Speaker 2>You could even draft another one if you wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>at twenty nine, because there's gonna be a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>guys there, like Ryan Clockbrinner that you could take in

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<v Speaker 2>that spot. I don't hate it, but I don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel the urge to say yes to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Grayson Allen could very easily turn into

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the contract is. He could turn

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<v Speaker 2>into someone that is just hidden and blending in with

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<v Speaker 2>a second unit for Orlando. He's not pushing the needle

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<v Speaker 2>in any way. So that's where I kind of see

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<v Speaker 2>it as a wash. He's kind of Dale, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>gets into these lulls, or he's just kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>fifth man on the court. I think that Grayson could

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<v Speaker 2>also be that type of impact where he'll knock down

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<v Speaker 2>a three here and there, he'll give you some defense.

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<v Speaker 2>He sounds like Gary Harris, but there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times also that he's just kind of out there and

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<v Speaker 2>blending in. So I'm good on that one as well. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's transition real quick. We have a couple of minutes

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<v Speaker 2>before we have Tyler Metcalf from No Ceilings MBA on

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Very excited for that. Let's go through.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't officially said who we have for our guys

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<v Speaker 2>plural as well as some guys that make the do

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<v Speaker 2>not draft list for each category. BK, I have three

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<v Speaker 2>with a player that's knocking on the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have.

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<v Speaker 3>Five guys that are on my list, and I have

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<v Speaker 3>none that are on my.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not draft list. Okay, let's start with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear your five and if if I

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<v Speaker 2>have the same, I will tell you if they are

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<v Speaker 2>a tie guy, it's not a my guy for me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a tie guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if it's a do not touch list for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And to be clear, my list is these are

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<v Speaker 3>guys that could be available at twenty five absolutely, otherwise

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<v Speaker 3>it would be a much longer list. Walter Clayton Junior,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously we all want him. I don't need to sell

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<v Speaker 3>you on that number. One time guy, Liam McNeely, I love.

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<v Speaker 3>I think his shot is pure. I know the percentages

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<v Speaker 3>weren't there, but I think that guy's a demon on

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<v Speaker 3>the court.

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<v Speaker 1>I really like him.

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<v Speaker 2>Knocking on the door or do not draft for me, personally,

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<v Speaker 2>I really like a lot of things that I've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the shooting potential is there. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>athletic potential is there. How much do you believe in

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<v Speaker 2>Tristan da Silva. I think they would play two similar roles.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have heard, not me personally from league sources,

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<v Speaker 2>but I've heard reports from league sources that they look

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<v Speaker 2>at their two way guys and say they're better than

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<v Speaker 2>Liam McNeely. These are NBA official NBA I'm franchise front

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<v Speaker 2>office members, so now it feels like a mistake to me,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not an evaluator. Max seem Rao, you sold

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<v Speaker 2>me on him yesterday. I did some more digging, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all in on this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven to one out of Stanford, average twenty and eleven

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<v Speaker 3>and having a seven footer that can handle and shoot

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<v Speaker 3>a three. Coveted Jace Richardson, son of Jason, exciting player. Statistically,

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<v Speaker 3>he's actually a better three point shooter than Walter Clayton Junior.

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<v Speaker 3>Give us some of that for the magic. And I

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<v Speaker 3>really do like Ryan Kalchbrenner. I loved him at Crayton.

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<v Speaker 3>He might be one of those guys that is just

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<v Speaker 3>simply great in college and doesn't translate to the NBA.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm willing to take the shot at twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>on rim protection because the Magic do need that. So

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<v Speaker 3>Max sim Raino my number two Thai guy, the seven

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<v Speaker 3>footer twenty eleven at Stanford. He added a new element

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<v Speaker 3>to his game every single year. I think my biggest

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<v Speaker 3>issue with him is he isn't a lob threat. He's

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<v Speaker 3>not super. He moves decent for a seven footer.

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<v Speaker 2>Knox having three ball well, he can put the ball

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<v Speaker 2>on the court, but he he isn't going to amaze

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<v Speaker 2>you with his finishing necessarily about the ram, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>he is vertical and in the air. I want a

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<v Speaker 2>lob threat for this Magic team, but I would look

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<v Speaker 2>at it as we don't really have one right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Goga he brings it, but he doesn't bring to three

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<v Speaker 2>point shooting. I'll say, give me maximum right now, who

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<v Speaker 2>will not pass up and open three point shot? And

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<v Speaker 2>he's seven foot See if you can craft them, See

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<v Speaker 2>if you improve the hands, his finishing around the rim

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<v Speaker 2>will come. I'm willing to take the plunge on Maxium

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<v Speaker 2>right now or sheer fleming out of Saint Joe's He's

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<v Speaker 2>been a riser in the draft and I've kind of

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<v Speaker 2>been bought in. He has a lot of strengths that

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<v Speaker 2>NBA fans or NBA execs just kind of drool over.

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<v Speaker 2>Great size, He's six', nine has a seven and a

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<v Speaker 2>half foot, wingspan major positive, wingspan great, defensively he can

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<v Speaker 2>knock down the three. Ball really the negatives or he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a great free throw shooter at seventy four. Percent

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<v Speaker 2>you can still kind of work on, that but that's

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<v Speaker 2>really the only knock to his. Game thirty nine percent

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<v Speaker 2>three point shooter on four and a half attempts last

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<v Speaker 2>year At Saint. Jose obviously coming From Saint jose as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it's not the highest competition a, concern BUT i

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<v Speaker 2>think That Rashier fleming is going to transition just. Fine

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<v Speaker 2>this does come down to how much belief do we

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<v Speaker 2>have interest Into silva is he going to because these

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<v Speaker 2>two will directly be competing four minutes off of that

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<v Speaker 2>off of the magic bench.

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<v Speaker 1>As kind of a backup.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward so then knocking on the Door Cam jones at A,

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<v Speaker 2>Marquette i'm looking for a guy with.

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<v Speaker 1>Experience it's WHY i Like Walter.

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<v Speaker 2>Clayton WHY i Like jace or WHY i do not

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<v Speaker 2>Have Jace richardson as one of the tie, guys even

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<v Speaker 2>though they're directly. TIED i want guys who have been,

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<v Speaker 2>around who are, experienced, older and are more of a finished.

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<v Speaker 2>PRODUCT i don't want to have to mold you for numerous,

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<v Speaker 2>years AND i think That Jace, richardson it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a. PROJECT i think you see more of A

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<v Speaker 2>howard path comparatively to someone who come In day. One

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<v Speaker 2>you can spend some time In, ostiola but we need

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<v Speaker 2>you to play within a. Year your second, year second,

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<v Speaker 2>year you need to be in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Rotation i'm co signing that With cam by The, way

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<v Speaker 3>adding him to to my list as.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Mike quick do not draft Guys Will riley out

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<v Speaker 2>Of illinois.

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<v Speaker 1>Him as well As Drake powell out Of North.

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina they both fell short of their expectations for last. Season,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes Will riley is supposed to be a knockdown three point.

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<v Speaker 2>Shooter he does not belong this high in the draft

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<v Speaker 2>at twenty. FIVE i see him as a second round,

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<v Speaker 2>pick as well As Drake powell FROM, unc one of

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<v Speaker 2>the most underwhelming players in the country last. Year talk

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<v Speaker 2>about blending in with a team that is just. Mediocre

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<v Speaker 2>Notice North carolina doesn't have a prospect in this draft

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<v Speaker 2>because they weren't Very they didn't live up to the

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<v Speaker 2>tar heel standard last year despite being preseason one of

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<v Speaker 2>the top twenty five team in the. Country this is all.

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<v Speaker 2>Projection he has good, measurables he has good. LENGTH i

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<v Speaker 2>love me a long wings, fan but we can't buy

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<v Speaker 2>into every single.

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<v Speaker 1>One Drake.

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<v Speaker 2>Powell they do not draft guy as well As jan.

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<v Speaker 2>BARONJAY i like him for other teams around the. League

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<v Speaker 2>he's in an international, guy gonna be a, center really

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<v Speaker 2>good size to, him inconsistently can, shoot but it has

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<v Speaker 2>shown in ways of willingness to shoot from time to.

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<v Speaker 2>Time doesn't play a lot of minutes for his international

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<v Speaker 2>squad right there at about twenty minutes a. Night he

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a PROJECT i like him in

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<v Speaker 2>the future of THE. Nba don't like him for this magic.

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<v Speaker 2>Team so the tie Guys Walter, Clayton, Junior Maxim, reino

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<v Speaker 2>And Rashier fleming With Cam jones knocking on the door

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<v Speaker 2>that do not draft list for. Me Will riley out Of,

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<v Speaker 2>Illinois Drake powell of you and Ze Yawann barnjay and

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<v Speaker 2>knocking on the door for the do Not draft Is liam.

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<v Speaker 3>McNeely that knocking on the door next Is Tyler metcalf

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<v Speaker 3>who is AN Nba draft analyst For No CEILINGS. Nba

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<v Speaker 3>they do phenomenal. Work we're back very short. Break we'll

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<v Speaker 3>be right back with that next
