Speaker 1: Let's put BK on the shelf. Cowboy Karen is taking over.
Speaker 1: You know what time? It is? Tea time. Howdy y'all,
Speaker 1: welcome into tea Time.
Speaker 2: You are in the zone of Brandon Kravitz and sweet
Speaker 2: tea Tyler Karen, and it's Draft Day, baby, best day.
Speaker 1: Of the year. They say.
Speaker 2: That's what they say, not what I say, Brandon, and
Speaker 2: don't look at me. I'm just saying what the people say.
Speaker 2: NBA Draft, the most important draft in sports and the
Speaker 2: best night of the year. So the people say, I'm
Speaker 2: just reading the text there five er eighty five to seven.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, right, yeah, I know I see that one
Speaker 3: right there, right there and right next to the Easter
Speaker 3: Bunny is real.
Speaker 2: And no that is not my tech, not my phone
Speaker 2: number on the text line. Okay, it got even better, Tyler.
Speaker 3: The day h your Super Bowl got even better because
Speaker 3: I won my bet.
Speaker 1: Yes, the under has cashed.
Speaker 3: OYO was a close, though as close as it could get,
Speaker 3: over under six and a half on Pirates Brewers, and
Speaker 3: we landed at six a four.
Speaker 1: To two finished, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Let's go four to two finished, Paul Schimes four runs.
Speaker 2: But the under cash, Let's go Coffee's on me all right?
Speaker 2: Um So, NBA Draft tonight. I like to consider myself
Speaker 2: a draft guy. I listen to a lot of other
Speaker 2: people that are actually draft guys, that have inside information
Speaker 2: from around the league. I'm constantly reading about the NBA Draft.
Speaker 2: You can be as sure and as certain as you
Speaker 2: want heading into draft night, but the one thing that
Speaker 2: is guaranteed is that you can't expect the unexpected. Something
Speaker 2: crazy is going to happen tonight, and that includes blockbuster
Speaker 2: trades and the Magic obviously involved in a big trade
Speaker 2: this summer sent getting Desmond Baine and sending out all
Speaker 2: of those picks, including the sixteenth overall pick in this draft.
Speaker 2: So the Magic are left with twenty five, and tonight
Speaker 2: the Magic will make a selection with a twenty fifth
Speaker 2: overall pick. It goes back to I believe it's the
Speaker 2: Stepian Steepian, I'm not sure exactly how you say it rule,
Speaker 2: which essentially prevents NBA teams from trading their first round
Speaker 2: pick in back to back years.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: The way around it is the old hat swap on
Speaker 2: draft night where the Orlando Magic make this selection for
Speaker 2: this other team, and then a trade pens later on
Speaker 2: so that's how It doesn't mean that the Magic will
Speaker 2: end up with whoever they pick out twenty five, but
Speaker 2: they will be making their selection on twenty five with
Speaker 2: next year's pick tied up in the trade. So earscer,
Speaker 2: is it was next year's dealt to Memphis.
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you.
Speaker 2: So let's go with We're gonna do some mock trades
Speaker 2: that all involve the two thousand or the twenty fifth
Speaker 2: overall pick for the Orlando Magic tonight, and we'll also
Speaker 2: get into some names, some guys that Brandon and I
Speaker 2: would like the Magic to draft, as well as names
Speaker 2: that we do not want to see drafted.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start with some mock trades, b K.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tease them up to you, involving a couple
Speaker 2: of different teams, a couple of different different returns, and
Speaker 2: you can just hit me with a yes, you would
Speaker 2: want the Magic to pull the trigger on this.
Speaker 1: That's number one and number two. Is it likely? Do
Speaker 1: you see the other side saying no, We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: through him.
Speaker 2: So the first trade, we got Sacramento Kings on the
Speaker 2: line and Orlando saying, hey, Sacramento, we will give you
Speaker 2: go give a Tase Jet Howard, who is going to
Speaker 2: be very popular in this exercise.
Speaker 1: He's just young piece, good contract. He's easy to throw
Speaker 1: in trades.
Speaker 2: Fifth pick, the forty sixth pick and the fifty seventh pick,
Speaker 2: the first rounder, the twenty fifth pick, and the two
Speaker 2: second rounders form Aleak Monk.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I do that in a second. Why
Speaker 1: would the king say as to that?
Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of these are fan made,
Speaker 2: So shout out to the fans out there.
Speaker 1: This you didn't create.
Speaker 3: I didn't create this one. No, okay, no, yes? Do
Speaker 3: you say yes to that immediately and figure the rest
Speaker 3: out later? How do you bring Malik Monk off the bench?
Speaker 3: This team legitimately could be the favorite to win the
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference.
Speaker 2: Replace Gogabtase Mo Wagner on a sign and trade deal.
Speaker 2: Mo Wagner Jet Howard twenty five forty six fifty seven
Speaker 2: for Malik Monk.
Speaker 1: I love Mo. I would still do it. I still
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: I tend to agree if you can get Malik Monk
Speaker 2: and not these guys are valuable pieces to the rotation.
Speaker 2: Malik Monk is more valuable piece that are to their rotation,
Speaker 2: So I agree, move on fan created trade number two.
Speaker 2: The Utah Jazz receive Wendell Carter Junior Jet Howard twenty
Speaker 2: fifth pick, the forty six pick, Andy fifty seventh pick.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is gonna be good.
Speaker 2: Dell Jet twenty five, forty six, fifty seven for Jordan
Speaker 2: Clarkson and Walker Kessler. No, I want to again, this
Speaker 2: is a fan made trade. Your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3: I think I would do that too. Jordan Clarkson gives
Speaker 3: you kind of what you're getting with Malik Monk. I
Speaker 3: don't think as efficient, but still a scorer off the
Speaker 3: bench that can get you a bucket. The Magic don't
Speaker 3: have a lot of that right now, so that's helpful.
Speaker 3: He's a veteran, he's he's been playing in Utah for
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, so he can't be that
Speaker 3: bad in terms of attitude, but I don't know that
Speaker 3: for sure. And then Walker Kessler is the room protector
Speaker 3: that you want. He's one of the best shot blockers
Speaker 3: in the league. I would do that. I would definitely
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 2: So I believe the finances of it would work. Now
Speaker 2: Here is where I don't think that Utah accepts it.
Speaker 2: I think that Walker Kessler will be a part of
Speaker 2: their future. And I also think that for Orlando. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you, I think you'd really be putting
Speaker 2: yourself in a in a rough cap situation moving forward,
Speaker 2: because I think Walker Kessler he's entering the final year
Speaker 2: of his rookie deal and which meaning he will be
Speaker 2: extension eligible very soon, and I think that Utah will
Speaker 2: try to get him on a good extension. He's not
Speaker 2: going to get the max rookie extension, but I think
Speaker 2: you're going to be looking in the ballpark of about
Speaker 2: twenty five million dollars a year for a guy like
Speaker 2: Walker Kessler. And I don't know if Orlando is going
Speaker 2: to have the wiggle room in order to get that
Speaker 2: deal done. Can you afford a center for twenty five
Speaker 2: million dollars a year and still have room to make
Speaker 2: a bench unit behind it?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. So that's why that's another reason
Speaker 1: I don't think the deal would get done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not really even thinking about this in realistic
Speaker 3: sentences because I don't have the contracts in front.
Speaker 1: Of me and all of that. It's just do I
Speaker 1: want the players? Sure? Is the play?
Speaker 3: Is the player swap worth it? And then figure out
Speaker 3: the finances later. I'm signing off on that aspect of it. Now,
Speaker 3: here's the thing with Walker Kessler. He doesn't help you
Speaker 3: with the floor spacing issue. Wendell Carter Junior is supposed
Speaker 3: to because he can shoot the three. He's willing to,
Speaker 3: but he hasn't been good at it, and when he's
Speaker 3: not good at it, he's less willing to.
Speaker 1: And then he's just standing there and we don't like that.
Speaker 1: And he's not as good.
Speaker 3: As of a defender as Walker Kessler.
Speaker 1: So give me what I.
Speaker 3: Know I'm getting with Kessler, and and then with Desmond
Speaker 3: Baine that helps the floor spacing. And then you add
Speaker 3: the bench piece in Jordan Clarkson. That's enough to get
Speaker 3: me over the over the hill on that one.
Speaker 1: One more. You got Phoenix on the line there.
Speaker 2: Act, We'll give you your center that you desperately need and
Speaker 2: Wendell Carter Junior, and we'll give you twenty five for
Speaker 2: Grayson Allen in twenty nine. That's interesting. Not a big
Speaker 2: Grayson Allen guy. Don't love him, don't hate him. He's
Speaker 2: all of the products from Jackson. Well, you get twenty nine,
Speaker 2: you still have goga. I'm assuming in this situation. You
Speaker 2: would be bringing Mo Wagner back, so you have two centers.
Speaker 2: You could even draft another one if you wanted to
Speaker 2: at twenty nine, because there's gonna be a couple of
Speaker 2: guys there, like Ryan Clockbrinner that you could take in
Speaker 2: that spot. I don't hate it, but I don't feel
Speaker 2: I don't feel the urge to say yes to that.
Speaker 2: I think that Grayson Allen could very easily turn into
Speaker 2: I don't know what the contract is. He could turn
Speaker 2: into someone that is just hidden and blending in with
Speaker 2: a second unit for Orlando. He's not pushing the needle
Speaker 2: in any way. So that's where I kind of see
Speaker 2: it as a wash. He's kind of Dale, kind of
Speaker 2: gets into these lulls, or he's just kind of a
Speaker 2: fifth man on the court. I think that Grayson could
Speaker 2: also be that type of impact where he'll knock down
Speaker 2: a three here and there, he'll give you some defense.
Speaker 2: He sounds like Gary Harris, but there's a lot of
Speaker 2: times also that he's just kind of out there and
Speaker 2: blending in. So I'm good on that one as well. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's transition real quick. We have a couple of minutes
Speaker 2: before we have Tyler Metcalf from No Ceilings MBA on
Speaker 2: to talk about the draft.
Speaker 1: Very excited for that. Let's go through.
Speaker 2: We haven't officially said who we have for our guys
Speaker 2: plural as well as some guys that make the do
Speaker 2: not draft list for each category. BK, I have three
Speaker 2: with a player that's knocking on the door.
Speaker 1: Okay, I have.
Speaker 3: Five guys that are on my list, and I have
Speaker 3: none that are on my.
Speaker 1: Do not draft list. Okay, let's start with it.
Speaker 2: I want to hear your five and if if I
Speaker 2: have the same, I will tell you if they are
Speaker 2: a tie guy, it's not a my guy for me,
Speaker 2: it's a tie guy.
Speaker 1: Or if it's a do not touch list for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And to be clear, my list is these are
Speaker 3: guys that could be available at twenty five absolutely, otherwise
Speaker 3: it would be a much longer list. Walter Clayton Junior,
Speaker 3: obviously we all want him. I don't need to sell
Speaker 3: you on that number. One time guy, Liam McNeely, I love.
Speaker 3: I think his shot is pure. I know the percentages
Speaker 3: weren't there, but I think that guy's a demon on
Speaker 3: the court.
Speaker 1: I really like him.
Speaker 2: Knocking on the door or do not draft for me, personally,
Speaker 2: I really like a lot of things that I've seen.
Speaker 2: I think the shooting potential is there. I think the
Speaker 2: athletic potential is there. How much do you believe in
Speaker 2: Tristan da Silva. I think they would play two similar roles.
Speaker 2: And I have heard, not me personally from league sources,
Speaker 2: but I've heard reports from league sources that they look
Speaker 2: at their two way guys and say they're better than
Speaker 2: Liam McNeely. These are NBA official NBA I'm franchise front
Speaker 2: office members, so now it feels like a mistake to me,
Speaker 2: But I'm not an evaluator. Max seem Rao, you sold
Speaker 2: me on him yesterday. I did some more digging, and
Speaker 2: I'm all in on this guy.
Speaker 3: Seven to one out of Stanford, average twenty and eleven
Speaker 3: and having a seven footer that can handle and shoot
Speaker 3: a three. Coveted Jace Richardson, son of Jason, exciting player. Statistically,
Speaker 3: he's actually a better three point shooter than Walter Clayton Junior.
Speaker 3: Give us some of that for the magic. And I
Speaker 3: really do like Ryan Kalchbrenner. I loved him at Crayton.
Speaker 3: He might be one of those guys that is just
Speaker 3: simply great in college and doesn't translate to the NBA.
Speaker 3: But I'm willing to take the shot at twenty five
Speaker 3: on rim protection because the Magic do need that. So
Speaker 3: Max sim Raino my number two Thai guy, the seven
Speaker 3: footer twenty eleven at Stanford. He added a new element
Speaker 3: to his game every single year. I think my biggest
Speaker 3: issue with him is he isn't a lob threat. He's
Speaker 3: not super. He moves decent for a seven footer.
Speaker 2: Knox having three ball well, he can put the ball
Speaker 2: on the court, but he he isn't going to amaze
Speaker 2: you with his finishing necessarily about the ram, especially when
Speaker 2: he is vertical and in the air. I want a
Speaker 2: lob threat for this Magic team, but I would look
Speaker 2: at it as we don't really have one right now.
Speaker 2: Goga he brings it, but he doesn't bring to three
Speaker 2: point shooting. I'll say, give me maximum right now, who
Speaker 2: will not pass up and open three point shot? And
Speaker 2: he's seven foot See if you can craft them, See
Speaker 2: if you improve the hands, his finishing around the rim
Speaker 2: will come. I'm willing to take the plunge on Maxium
Speaker 2: right now or sheer fleming out of Saint Joe's He's
Speaker 2: been a riser in the draft and I've kind of
Speaker 2: been bought in. He has a lot of strengths that
Speaker 2: NBA fans or NBA execs just kind of drool over.
Speaker 2: Great size, He's six', nine has a seven and a
Speaker 2: half foot, wingspan major positive, wingspan great, defensively he can
Speaker 2: knock down the three. Ball really the negatives or he
Speaker 2: wasn't a great free throw shooter at seventy four. Percent
Speaker 2: you can still kind of work on, that but that's
Speaker 2: really the only knock to his. Game thirty nine percent
Speaker 2: three point shooter on four and a half attempts last
Speaker 2: year At Saint. Jose obviously coming From Saint jose as.
Speaker 2: Well it's not the highest competition a, concern BUT i
Speaker 2: think That Rashier fleming is going to transition just. Fine
Speaker 2: this does come down to how much belief do we
Speaker 2: have interest Into silva is he going to because these
Speaker 2: two will directly be competing four minutes off of that
Speaker 2: off of the magic bench.
Speaker 1: As kind of a backup.
Speaker 2: Forward so then knocking on the Door Cam jones at A,
Speaker 2: Marquette i'm looking for a guy with.
Speaker 1: Experience it's WHY i Like Walter.
Speaker 2: Clayton WHY i Like jace or WHY i do not
Speaker 2: Have Jace richardson as one of the tie, guys even
Speaker 2: though they're directly. TIED i want guys who have been,
Speaker 2: around who are, experienced, older and are more of a finished.
Speaker 2: PRODUCT i don't want to have to mold you for numerous,
Speaker 2: years AND i think That Jace, richardson it's going to
Speaker 2: be a. PROJECT i think you see more of A
Speaker 2: howard path comparatively to someone who come In day. One
Speaker 2: you can spend some time In, ostiola but we need
Speaker 2: you to play within a. Year your second, year second,
Speaker 2: year you need to be in the.
Speaker 3: Rotation i'm co signing that With cam by The, way
Speaker 3: adding him to to my list as.
Speaker 2: Well Mike quick do not draft Guys Will riley out
Speaker 2: Of illinois.
Speaker 1: Him as well As Drake powell out Of North.
Speaker 2: Carolina they both fell short of their expectations for last. Season,
Speaker 2: Yes Will riley is supposed to be a knockdown three point.
Speaker 2: Shooter he does not belong this high in the draft
Speaker 2: at twenty. FIVE i see him as a second round,
Speaker 2: pick as well As Drake powell FROM, unc one of
Speaker 2: the most underwhelming players in the country last. Year talk
Speaker 2: about blending in with a team that is just. Mediocre
Speaker 2: Notice North carolina doesn't have a prospect in this draft
Speaker 2: because they weren't Very they didn't live up to the
Speaker 2: tar heel standard last year despite being preseason one of
Speaker 2: the top twenty five team in the. Country this is all.
Speaker 2: Projection he has good, measurables he has good. LENGTH i
Speaker 2: love me a long wings, fan but we can't buy
Speaker 2: into every single.
Speaker 1: One Drake.
Speaker 2: Powell they do not draft guy as well As jan.
Speaker 2: BARONJAY i like him for other teams around the. League
Speaker 2: he's in an international, guy gonna be a, center really
Speaker 2: good size to, him inconsistently can, shoot but it has
Speaker 2: shown in ways of willingness to shoot from time to.
Speaker 2: Time doesn't play a lot of minutes for his international
Speaker 2: squad right there at about twenty minutes a. Night he
Speaker 2: is going to be a PROJECT i like him in
Speaker 2: the future of THE. Nba don't like him for this magic.
Speaker 2: Team so the tie Guys Walter, Clayton, Junior Maxim, reino
Speaker 2: And Rashier fleming With Cam jones knocking on the door
Speaker 2: that do not draft list for. Me Will riley out Of,
Speaker 2: Illinois Drake powell of you and Ze Yawann barnjay and
Speaker 2: knocking on the door for the do Not draft Is liam.
Speaker 3: McNeely that knocking on the door next Is Tyler metcalf
Speaker 3: who is AN Nba draft analyst For No CEILINGS. Nba
Speaker 3: they do phenomenal. Work we're back very short. Break we'll
Speaker 3: be right back with that next