WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:57.679 Wait, wait, say. 2 00:01:04.879 --> 00:01:07.640 Welcome back to Midnight Viewing, where this season we're taking 3 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:11.159 a look at George A. Ramero's nineteen eighty series Tales 4 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:13.519 from the Dark Side. Sharing the midnight view with me. 5 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:17.319 Are the projection Booths, Mike White, you don't know Yattering 6 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:20.719 and the culture cast Chris Stashure. 7 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:24.439 You know what they say? Everybody Kay, Sarah Sarah. 8 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:25.920 Tonight, we are taking a look at the next two 9 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:28.680 episodes of season four, the final season of Tales from 10 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:31.599 the Dark Side. Those are The Yattering and Jack and 11 00:01:31.840 --> 00:01:35.959 Seymour Lama. The Yattering and Jack is season four, episode seven. 12 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:39.400 It aired originally on November the eighth, nineteen eighty seven. 13 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:42.599 Written by Clive Barker from a short story by Clive Barker, 14 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:47.959 directed by David O'Dell, starring Phil Fondacaro. Under the Rainbow 15 00:01:48.040 --> 00:01:50.359 was his first film, Something Wicked, This Way Comes. He 16 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:54.239 was in Return of the Jedi, Willow Phantasm two, The Doors, 17 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:57.239 The Last Action Hero. We saw him twice on Tales 18 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:00.560 from the Crypt. Andy was in Bordello of Bla. He 19 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:03.239 was a recurring villain on Sabrina the Teenage Witch. He's 20 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:06.200 the voice a big figure in the New Watchman Animated 21 00:02:06.560 --> 00:02:11.960 Animated the comic and that's quite a fucking resume. Like anyway, 22 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:16.560 That's Phil also starring Anthony Carboni, Tom Newman, and Danielle 23 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:20.520 Breus Bois. That is Oscar nominee Danielle Bruce Bois for 24 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:24.280 Original Song twenty fifteen a song called The Lost Stars 25 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:26.560 from the movie Begin Again. This is the story of 26 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:29.039 a minor demon who is tasked with breaking the spirit 27 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:32.479 of a seemingly unflappable girkin salesman. What do you think 28 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:34.560 of this one, Mike, Ooh, it's. 29 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:37.000 Gonna be kind of a theme here with This could 30 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.879 have been done a lot quicker. I'm not gonna say 31 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:42.919 the words blackout skit. Oh shit, I just did so. 32 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:45.599 This is what Clive Parker was up to back in 33 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:45.879 the day. 34 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:47.159 Huh okay. 35 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:51.919 I don't know what it was about Anthony Carbone, who 36 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:54.759 was frozen so solid it took him two days to 37 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:57.800 thaw m out to do the autopsy, I believe. But 38 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:01.599 with Carbone, his voice sounded so much like Darren McGavin, 39 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:04.400 and at times he looked like Darren McGavin, and I 40 00:03:04.479 --> 00:03:07.520 just kept spending this entire episode thinking, man, I wish 41 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:11.479 this was Darren McGavin. I like a good demon episode, 42 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:16.039 I like a good devil episode, but this isn't a 43 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:19.319 good demon or devil episode for me. It just was like, 44 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.960 I like Phil Fondacaro a lot, and I was really 45 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:26.360 excited to see his name in the credits. I was 46 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:29.479 excited to every time that he was on screen. Kind 47 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:32.879 of reminded me of that like little throwaway thing that 48 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:37.800 happened on The Young Ones when Neil accidentally summoned well, 49 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:40.280 I can't remember the gentleman's name who was like the 50 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:44.439 main guy from Time Bandits, but he summoned a demon 51 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:47.639 named putumsh and he showed up and was doing all 52 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:49.919 these little dastardly things. But it was basically it was 53 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:53.759 a throwaway gag. That's what this one is for me too. Yeah, 54 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:57.159 I wasn't a big fan of this one. What'd you think, Chris. 55 00:03:56.919 --> 00:04:00.680 For this being as from one gay man to to 56 00:04:00.800 --> 00:04:04.520 another gay man's thing that he wrote not gay men here, 57 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:07.360 not that I know him anyways, you guys haven't taken 58 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:08.000 advantage of it. 59 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:10.280 This is not as gay as I was expecting it 60 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:10.520 to be. 61 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:13.360 With Clive Barker in the title. I know, obviously eighty seven. 62 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:18.240 Wasn't expecting any homosexual undertones or overtone. So once there 63 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:21.600 was the lack of gay with Clive Barker, because Clive 64 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:23.959 Barker and gay go together like peanut butter and jelly, 65 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:26.680 I thought this was yeah, like you said, Mike, it 66 00:04:26.720 --> 00:04:30.959 was a yeah, man, blackout sketch. Everybody, look, it's it's 67 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:34.920 the thing that's weird for me is that the twist 68 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:37.600 is that he knew the whole time and we're not 69 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:40.399 in on it until the end. And he's such a 70 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:41.839 good liar the that we're supposed to be like, well, 71 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:43.839 he's actually just like a psychopath. 72 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:44.800 It turns out. 73 00:04:45.399 --> 00:04:47.600 I guess that's the moral of the story, is like 74 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:51.120 the psychopath outwits the devil and more aptly, I guess, 75 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:54.079 the demon less the devil. But I thought it was 76 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:57.000 I thought it was fun, and yeah, Anthony Carbone does 77 00:04:57.079 --> 00:04:59.720 look like Darren McGavin, and I honestly thought it was 78 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:00.680 there and mcavin. 79 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:01.839 But it's not. 80 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:04.199 But it would have been fun if it had been, 81 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:06.040 so we could just think about that for a second. 82 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:06.839 It's still fun. 83 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:10.759 I just it's just you could have said way, You 84 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:12.920 could have said the same amount in less time. 85 00:05:13.720 --> 00:05:17.920 By them alone, you didn't find both Beelzebub and the 86 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:21.279 Yatter Rings outfits to be the gayest thing that they 87 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:24.680 could possibly had. In nineteen eighty seven on television and 88 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:26.879 Sunday Night at seven pm, are you out of your 89 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:28.480 fucking guard man? Like this. 90 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:33.439 Chest straps and rings on the little unfil Fondacaro's chest. 91 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:34.079 You know what I mean? 92 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:38.279 No, we just get yeah, yeah, you'd get that later 93 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:40.920 in the year when hell Racer came out. So it's true, 94 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:46.560 let's face it, Clive Barker really popularized very subtly s 95 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:52.560 and m gear and behavior for an entire generation this episode. Now, look, 96 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:54.959 when Clive Barker hit the scene, he hit the scene 97 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:58.120 really fucking hard with the Books of Blood because Stephen 98 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:01.079 King very generously said I've seen the future of horror 99 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:03.879 and his name is Clive Barker. And then suddenly every 100 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:06.319 horror fan was buying those books and eating them up 101 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:11.279 one after another. Now, this is his first adaptation in America. 102 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:14.759 By then, he had written an adaptation of his story 103 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:16.879 raw Head Rex, which is a terrible fucking film, and 104 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:18.720 he tried to take his name off of it. He 105 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:21.800 had written a movie called underworld, which is separate from everything. 106 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:23.560 But this is the first adaptation of any of the 107 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.120 short stories, certainly the first adaptation of any of the 108 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:29.480 books of Blood, so I had already read it by then. 109 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.959 I'm a huge Clive Barker fan. If you read the 110 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:37.279 short story, it's a slow escalation over time, and what 111 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:41.560 you're witnessing is this guy who you believed as the demon, 112 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:46.519 believes that this is just the most oblivious motherfucker on earth. 113 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:50.720 He is the modern Candide. Everything's fine. Oh the cat 114 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:53.680 blew up. It must have been the dogs. Stupid dogs. 115 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.040 Now I'll bury the cat. That kind of a thing. 116 00:06:56.560 --> 00:07:00.800 The problem here with this episode is Anthony Carbone because 117 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:05.120 I never once believe that he isn't fully aware of 118 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:08.519 what's going on, and he isn't stifling rage. He just 119 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:12.399 seems angry. So it undermines this idea because if that's 120 00:07:12.519 --> 00:07:15.519 actually how he is, if he actually is angry and 121 00:07:15.720 --> 00:07:20.240 just stifling it slightly, then the ending makes no sense. 122 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:22.319 When we find out he's known the whole time. He 123 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:24.959 should have acted even cooler the whole time. And that's 124 00:07:24.959 --> 00:07:26.480 what's great about the short story, and that's why the 125 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:28.839 short story works and why this is so fucking bad. 126 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:32.399 Plus the stuff the thing is doing is so outrageous 127 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:36.120 that you can't just say nothing's happening. When the dead 128 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:39.360 turkey flies up onto the top of the Christmas tree 129 00:07:39.480 --> 00:07:42.519 and is flapping around and he's, I don't know, probably 130 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:46.120 the wind, let's have hot chocolate, honey. It's no, sar, 131 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:48.319 that doesn't worry. It might work on the page, and 132 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:50.600 it does work on the page, but it doesn't work visually. 133 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:51.879 It's just so insane. 134 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:54.759 No, it doesn't. It doesn't work, and it could have. 135 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:58.519 And that's like you said, like it's it. I guess 136 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:02.839 with hindsight rewatching it, it was. It's obviously. Then his 137 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:06.160 behavior seems a little bit more like, Okay, I'm just 138 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:09.199 ignoring this horse shit that's going on. But the first 139 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:13.040 watch through it makes very little sense. A literal turkey, 140 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.920 a literal raw turkey literally jumps on top of a 141 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:21.680 Christmas tree and spits in a circle. It's a great visual, yea, 142 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:24.120 we get one of the greatest visuals I think I've 143 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:27.279 ever seen involving a raw piece of poultry since Peter 144 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:30.480 Gabriel had one dance in his Sledge Amber music video. 145 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:35.879 That's what we're yeah, yeah, exactly, but this is this 146 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:39.120 is absurd and it's it's making a turkey gobbling noise 147 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:42.120 at the same time, Like it's a great visual, and 148 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:45.960 that's like the best part of this episode is that visual, 149 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.120 Like the moment he walks into his house and the 150 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:48.759 mirror cracks. 151 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:51.759 He's just foundation is just settling, I see. 152 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:55.519 No, yeah, must be foundation, over and over. 153 00:08:57.799 --> 00:08:58.600 Swamp gas. 154 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.240 I tell you, you know, it's funny in the short story, 155 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:04.639 as he lived in London and it takes place in England. Initially, 156 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:08.799 the English phrase for that is subsidence. Instead of saying 157 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:11.679 the house is settling, he just kept saying subsidence over 158 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:13.480 and over again. Just one of those English phrases I 159 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:15.799 don't know, like flat or fucking tube. 160 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:18.679 I've never heard of that before. So that's very good 161 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:23.120 to know. I'm chuffed to know that. Yeah, which I 162 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:25.879 also thought that meant I was pissed off. 163 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:28.240 I did too, And no, it just means like, I'm 164 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.159 super proud of you. Have either of you in any 165 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:34.559 of your years had Carollers come to your house maybe once? 166 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:37.159 Maybe one time. 167 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:39.440 When I lived in Minneapolis and Phil Hartman was my 168 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:41.279 next door neighbor, and I didn't get my child a 169 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:44.480 Christmas present, and I was out and I came back 170 00:09:44.559 --> 00:09:47.039 and the Christmas underneath phil Hartman. 171 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:48.279 Street too early in the year. 172 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:51.720 That's what I had. But that's the only other. 173 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:56.799 I can't think of another time I've seen carollers in 174 00:09:56.879 --> 00:09:59.919 anything other than Jingle All the Way are Kroller? 175 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.639 Is that a real thing? Did anybody do that outside 176 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:06.960 of Scrooge's time? Did people just do it then to 177 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:07.759 get out of the house. 178 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:11.159 It seems like it's a novelty that can still occur 179 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:14.519 these days, but it doesn't happen with the regularity that 180 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:17.159 it happens in short stories and in television shows. 181 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:21.440 Would go and walk around your neighborhood and sing at 182 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:22.159 Christmas time? 183 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:24.559 If I got to dress up in period costume, your 184 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:26.240 fucking air, right, I would? And I got to pick 185 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:27.000 the carols? 186 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:33.720 Yes, And if I got some figgy pudding, oh yeah, man, you. 187 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:35.279 Guys put a lot of qualifiers on it. 188 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:38.480 I don't think in Las Vegas anybody's putting figgy pudding 189 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:41.320 on anything. And I don't think anyone would open their 190 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:44.360 door for you if you should up looking like a caroler, 191 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:47.320 especially if you look like and I'm just quoting the 192 00:10:47.360 --> 00:10:50.720 Bible here, some sort of fourteenth century ponts. I just 193 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:52.919 don't think it would have I would love to see it. 194 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:54.679 I would open the door for you, but I'm not 195 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:56.159 sure i'd expect you to start singing. 196 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:58.440 Remember I'm not starting this league. 197 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:02.320 I would be joking, starting as the Carollers League. 198 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:03.200 Yeah. 199 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:06.200 I love the idea that it's also the coffee can 200 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:07.240 for the homeless. 201 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:10.000 Yeah, idea something for the homeless. Sure, here's a smattering 202 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.399 of change. He's really got the Christmas spirit. 203 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:14.320 You'll go far. 204 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:16.879 Kid with your like thirty five cents that he gave. 205 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:18.879 I'm sure they're gonna take it down at the local 206 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:21.320 soup kitchen and go fucking thanks for nothing. 207 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:22.759 What does this take? A penny? 208 00:11:22.799 --> 00:11:26.120 Leave a penny? I was I wanted this to be 209 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:28.080 better than it was. But it's also a comedy bit. 210 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.639 This is this show in comedy don't go well together, 211 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:35.679 and like anthology shows in general, it's very iffy. So 212 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:38.399 this is the iffiest of equations. Here is the comedy 213 00:11:38.440 --> 00:11:40.080 equation with these kinds of shows. 214 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.039 And this is a short story writer who fell into 215 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:46.000 short story writing because originally he was a playwright until 216 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:48.159 he burned himself out on that and he could no 217 00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:51.679 longer paint and then wrote a bunch of short stories 218 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:54.480 and gave it to his agent, who put this book out, 219 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:56.919 and then suddenly he's doing this and he's writing screenplays. 220 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:59.679 Considering where he is in his career. I think the 221 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:02.720 story is great, and I encourage everyone to go back 222 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:06.799 and reread the Books of Blood. But this is terrible. 223 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:11.159 I really liked the Bielzaba Tom Newman. I thought his 224 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:12.519 performance was good. 225 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:14.320 Has he been in here before? 226 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.039 This is his first Tips from the dark Side. 227 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:18.759 Stephen King is someone who I always here. 228 00:12:18.840 --> 00:12:20.480 He has such great short stories and you just know 229 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:26.240 how to end like a big story. 230 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:28.639 Catch me on the next episode, why don't you. 231 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:35.080 But the thing about this short story is, like you 232 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:38.679 just mentioned Father Malone, I actually really love Clive barker 233 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.960 short stories. Books of Blood is amazing, Like in terms 234 00:12:41.960 --> 00:12:44.840 of the compilation of short stories, it's great. So six 235 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:48.120 volumes right exactly, Like it's not just yeah, it's a 236 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:48.799 fair amount. 237 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:50.759 And he it's so. 238 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:54.480 Funny because if you look at critical reappraisal of Clive Barker, 239 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:59.639 they thought they focus almost wholly on his novels, which 240 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:02.480 admit he hasn't done any short story works since Books 241 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:07.279 of Blood, but it is almost exclusively like Imagica and 242 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:10.919 Weave World and Cabal. But it's rare that the Books 243 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:13.519 of Blood ever get mentioned anymore, when at the time 244 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.399 it was just like it was all the rage. I 245 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:17.399 owned all of them. 246 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:20.919 Well, And that's the thing, Like I I learned about 247 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.200 Clive Barker through hell Raiser, which was a novella, and 248 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.279 then I read the short stories with Books of Blood. 249 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:31.039 And when I went to the first and only time 250 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.840 I've ever been to Texas fright Mare Weekend, I brought 251 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:35.759 my copy of Books of Blood with me to get 252 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:38.000 it signed, and then I didn't want to wait five 253 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:41.440 hours to meet Clive Barker because they didn't advertise ahead 254 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:42.720 of time. You'd have to wait in a five hour 255 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:46.799 line to meet him, which was fucking insane. So I 256 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:49.200 have a very like personal affinity for Books of Blood, 257 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:51.000 and when I saw Clive Barker's name on this, I 258 00:13:51.039 --> 00:13:55.000 was just like, oh God, oh no, and it does 259 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:58.200 it does in fact lead me down that path of 260 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:03.039 like his stuff. The best person to adapt Clive Barker stuff, 261 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:06.519 I think might be either Clive Barker or someone who 262 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:10.200 gets his stuff inherently and you don't have to explain 263 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:12.279 it to him, because if you have to explain Clive 264 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:14.879 Barker or someone and what his deal is, I just 265 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:16.679 most people aren't gonna be into it. 266 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:19.639 He's like a very specific flavor of horror. 267 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:22.159 Clive Barker needs a Mike Flanagan. 268 00:14:22.519 --> 00:14:25.080 Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. Yeah, and 269 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:28.159 he hasn't had one, and he does not count. He 270 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:33.080 cannot count for himself because hell Raisers Amazing directed the 271 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:33.639 fucking thing. 272 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:37.200 Yeah. I mean, look, he's a visual stylist right above all, 273 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:40.519 he's been painting now for twenty five thirty years, and 274 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.039 his paintings are just sucking incredible. That's mainly what he's 275 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:44.960 been doing. Those are novels. And he was in a 276 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:48.440 coma and he's effectively not left his house. 277 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:50.000 Right, which is such a bummer. 278 00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:51.679 Now that I'm like, I wish I kind of had 279 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:54.440 waited in a five hour lines nothing now. 280 00:14:54.919 --> 00:14:57.440 When I was eighteen, I waited in a five hour 281 00:14:57.519 --> 00:14:59.639 line and I got him to sign my copy of 282 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:03.279 A Mad and I asked him, are we going to 283 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:06.440 get a sequel to Night Breed? And he looked me 284 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:09.879 in the eye and said it's on the way. I promise. 285 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:12.960 He fucking liar, you liar. 286 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:16.559 Hey man, that's a good one. That is a good one. 287 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:18.759 Night Breed is a good one. But yeah, I don't 288 00:15:18.759 --> 00:15:20.200 think we're I don't think that's happening. 289 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:23.759 Probably not. There is a sequel novel, however, there is. Yeah, 290 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:26.039 there's a sequel to a ball. So I encourage everyone 291 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:29.919 to go check that out, all right. From the Ridiculous 292 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:35.080 to the more Ridiculous Seymour Lama Season four, episode eight 293 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:38.360 aired originally on November the fifteenth, nineteen eighty seven. This 294 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:41.039 is written by Harvey Jacobs and David Woolner from a 295 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:45.799 story by Harvey Jacobs, directed by Bruce Dolan, starring Divine, J. 296 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:51.039 D Roth, Kathleen Doyle, David Gail, and Kathy Lepinsky. Oh boy, 297 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:54.720 they found the new Lama. He's in suburbia and he 298 00:15:54.879 --> 00:16:00.559 likes to knit and his dad is sometimes ahead on 299 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.639 a dish. Chris, what do you think of this one? Yeah? 300 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:05.759 I trying to figure I'm gonna I'm gonna throw this 301 00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:09.440 one at you, like deal with Divine as Chung Fang. 302 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:15.360 So, first off, have never seen divine in anything, so 303 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.279 I'm not what correct? 304 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:22.519 So wow, I plays Chinese. 305 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:25.399 Men hand in your gay papers. 306 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:28.279 Wait a second, I've heard of this before. The gay police. 307 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:30.559 That's right, the gay police. 308 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:34.879 Are you police the gay now? They're currently in Washington, DC. 309 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:36.039 Don't worry, they'll be coming your. 310 00:16:36.039 --> 00:16:40.399 With one can only hope no. So again, like I'm 311 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:43.559 a baby gay per the gay community. I've only been 312 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:47.399 out for five years, so I'm still coming to terms 313 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:51.200 with my gayness and also watching like gay gay things. 314 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.320 I haven't gotten to John Waters yet. Like I would say, 315 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.559 sue me and this day and age, don't I have 316 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.159 no money, so don't do it. I was gonna say, 317 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:02.559 this is the first time I've actually mistaken David Gale 318 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:04.200 for the right actor, because there have been so many 319 00:17:04.200 --> 00:17:07.000 times been like, that's the guy from Reanimator and it's not. 320 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:08.839 This is the first time I was like, that's the 321 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:10.640 guy from Reanimator and when I looked it up and 322 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.440 I was like, that was the guy from Reanimator. So 323 00:17:13.640 --> 00:17:17.599 many times I've seen tall, white, gaunt actors with his 324 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:20.319 look and complexion and gone, that's the guy from Reanimator, 325 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:22.799 only to learn it's not. This is the first time, 326 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:26.519 it was guess what though this is whoof the last 327 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:32.720 episode was bad. This is interminable fuck sick. I Mike, 328 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:35.000 you and I and our friend Richard HadAM of Richard 329 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:39.759 Hadam's paranormal Bookshelf covered the King and I on Rankin 330 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:44.119 on Bass, and there was a lot of racism there, 331 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:48.160 Chinese racism at the hand of Darryl Hammond doing an 332 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:53.200 Asian accent. The entire movie. I had chopsack Asian accent. 333 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:57.440 This wasn't that bad, but it was close. And it 334 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:00.880 was also just again a black out sketch, like what 335 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:04.000 a the gag? The gag, The gag at the end 336 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:07.960 is so dinky and dumb, and the whole setup is 337 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:10.240 bogus at times. 338 00:18:10.319 --> 00:18:11.920 I get what they're going for, but. 339 00:18:11.839 --> 00:18:14.240 It's just have you said blackout sketch yet? 340 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:15.240 Yeah? 341 00:18:15.319 --> 00:18:19.200 God, it is the blackout sketch to end all blackout sketches, 342 00:18:19.279 --> 00:18:21.000 almost like the last one was where I'm like, you 343 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.160 know what, Like you could have explained the joke in 344 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:25.799 the first five seconds and we would have had it, 345 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:28.759 like down, Pat, we got it. They think that God 346 00:18:28.799 --> 00:18:30.799 is in this house, Buddy's actually in the one next door. 347 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:34.519 Here's the actual White panel. They're carrying them out and 348 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:36.839 they and he says, oh wait, no, this is such 349 00:18:36.880 --> 00:18:39.400 and such. Drop them right. 350 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:43.720 Where the Griswolds and we're looking for sex. That's the 351 00:18:43.720 --> 00:18:47.119 fucking from European vacation. The same they and they take 352 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:49.400 that gag all the way to They build that one 353 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:51.279 out and they get some mileage out of it. But 354 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:54.079 with this is like the whole episode. Come on now, 355 00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:56.759 I'm good. It's just I don't know. I wasn't here 356 00:18:56.799 --> 00:18:58.559 for it. It was not for me, so I'm very 357 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:00.799 curious what Mike White has to It. 358 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:04.440 Was remarkable that they could let this thing drag on 359 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:07.640 for as long as it did. I was just so 360 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:11.720 surprised because it's just one joke that they're doing for 361 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:17.119 twenty two minutes. And yeah, you've got us built up 362 00:19:17.119 --> 00:19:20.640 to the punchline. And I could have, like you said, 363 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:24.000 I could have had that within three minutes. This whole thing. Oh, 364 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:26.559 we're here to find the new Lama. It's basically it's 365 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:29.839 the opening of Life of Brian with the Three Wise Men, 366 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:32.640 and they find Brian and the stable with his mom 367 00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:35.160 and dad, and then they realized, oh no, the star's 368 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:36.880 over there, so they come back and they take all 369 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:39.119 the gifts and then run out and they go to 370 00:19:39.200 --> 00:19:42.240 Jesus as some major that's what this is. And they 371 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:46.359 settled that with very very little. It was great how 372 00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:48.960 Brian's mom was just like, oh, I don't really need 373 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:51.559 the mr, but if you got more gold, that'd be 374 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:56.880 great kind of thing. This, yeah, it's I wasn't necessarily offended. 375 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:02.000 I liked Divine with those big white eyebrows that she's 376 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:06.279 got on and all that, and the very lascivious what 377 00:20:06.319 --> 00:20:10.480 was her name, Madam Woo that's with them, But yeah, 378 00:20:10.519 --> 00:20:13.359 Seymour was just a dinkist. I kind of wanted him 379 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:16.720 to be even more of a dweeb. Just really go 380 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:19.960 for it kid, but just wasn't very good. And then 381 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:24.440 I was trying to figure out the relationship between the 382 00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:27.480 dad and him and the mom and him, and I'm 383 00:20:27.559 --> 00:20:30.799 just like, what the Hell's what is this family dynamic? 384 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:33.519 Do they hate their son? That would be something if 385 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:36.720 they just absolutely if the dad just hated the son's 386 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:39.240 guts so much. And then he has to sing a 387 00:20:39.240 --> 00:20:43.960 whole different tune and they threatened to kill him because 388 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:47.279 he's insulted the new Lama and stuff. But it comes 389 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:50.519 with nothing. Yeah, I can't say that I'm a big 390 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:52.000 fan of this one either. 391 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:55.000 I'd like I'd like to clarify, need. 392 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:56.759 To watch some John Waters films. 393 00:20:57.359 --> 00:20:59.680 I do need to watch John Waters films. I'd like 394 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:00.240 to clear flight. 395 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.279 Not offended, more offended that I had to watch a 396 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:05.720 twenty three minute long episode that was attempting to be 397 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:07.119 funny by doing the same thing. 398 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:09.240 Nothing offends me at this point. 399 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:11.079 I didn't clutching your pearls. 400 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:13.079 No, I wasn't clutching them. 401 00:21:13.480 --> 00:21:15.559