WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.560 So if the Trump administration, if the FED killed Charlie Kirk. Look, 2 00:00:03.680 --> 00:00:08.160 there's no middle ground here right now. Either Erica Kirk 3 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:14.599 is evil and was in on it, or Candace Owens 4 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:16.600 is an evil. 5 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:23.920 I hope I'm being really clear about that. Stephen Crowder, 6 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:26.480 what are you up to, Bud? What are you doing? 7 00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:28.199 What are you doing? 8 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:29.199 Really? What are you doing? 9 00:00:29.199 --> 00:00:29.320 Now? 10 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:31.559 If you think that Candace has been off base, then 11 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:34.320 you may agree with the underlying sentiment that Stephen Crowder 12 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:36.560 is putting forward. But I want I'm going to play 13 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:38.960 you the clip that he's responding to, and I want 14 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:40.840 you to tell me if you think it's a fair 15 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:42.719 interpretation of what Candace Owns had to say. 16 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:44.520 My heart aches for the fact that he gave so 17 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:48.399 much of his life to Trump into politics, and they 18 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:52.280 just were like, Nope, that is it. It serves us 19 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:53.880 or it doesn't serve us, and we want to move on. 20 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.880 And so here's a holiday, bro, If they try to 21 00:00:57.880 --> 00:00:59.399 give me a holiday, what is what them giving people 22 00:00:59.399 --> 00:00:59.960 a holiday after. 23 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:00.399 They kill him? 24 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:01.520 Why is that a thing? 25 00:01:01.640 --> 00:01:02.119 You know what I mean? 26 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:04.359 Like, Oh, Martin Luther King, what about this holiday? 27 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:05.519 What about this boulevard? 28 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:07.840 Anyways, let me knock it off, like they're gonna give Charlie. 29 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:08.159 Cook and Bulevard. 30 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:10.840 They already did. They did in Israel. They gave him 31 00:01:10.840 --> 00:01:12.840 freaking bullet. It's like, as soon as they give you 32 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:17.319 a boulevard in a holiday, they definitely killed you. Okay, 33 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:19.319 there's no question they killed you. There's no way. That's 34 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:21.359 like their signature thing. It's like that's what they do. 35 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:25.239 It's the FED signature currently sign off after they murder you. 36 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:27.920 So like holiday in a boulevard and it's never on 37 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:30.439 a nice side of town either, Like Charlie Kirk boulevard 38 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:30.879 is not gonna be. 39 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:31.439 A nice side town. 40 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:34.000 So what is Candace actually saying. She's saying that she 41 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:37.719 thinks that Charlie Kirk was taken out by the FED. 42 00:01:38.200 --> 00:01:40.959 But then she talks about how there is a boulevard 43 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:43.560 named after Charlie Kirk that's in Israel. So maybe she's 44 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:46.400 implying that in fact, it was done in a joint 45 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.239 operation or by a foreign intell agency, a federal government 46 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:52.920 that just isn't American. I'm not sure exactly what she's 47 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:55.439 she's saying, and she's not making it crystal clear, but 48 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:58.079 what I'm pretty confident of is that she is not 49 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:02.359 saying that Donald Trump UMP is responsible. What I took 50 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:03.879 away from it, and I think this is a much 51 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:07.760 more fair reading or interpretation of what she has to say, 52 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:11.639 is that she is disappointed in the Trump administration, as 53 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:14.039 I share much of the disappointment not just in the 54 00:02:14.039 --> 00:02:17.199 Trump administration, but in many of Charlie Kirk's inner circle, 55 00:02:17.439 --> 00:02:20.240 from Pasobic who I read the Riot Act a couple 56 00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:22.560 of weeks ago, to many other figures that were very 57 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:25.960 close to Charlie who seemed completely disinterested in actually digging 58 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:27.960 into this story and making sure that they have the 59 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.199 right guy. So just because she says that he's been 60 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:33.759 betrayed does not mean that he has been betrayed in 61 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:37.120 terms of the actualist murder, but rather he may have 62 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.919 been betrayed in the aftermath, as in people are not 63 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:43.879 doing their jobs, cash matel dan Begino. Yeah, you guys, 64 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.319 that that's what she's saying. I mean, that's to me, 65 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:49.719 it's crystal clear that's what she's saying. But that's not 66 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:52.560 even the most far fetched interpretation, which I don't think 67 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:54.960 that even though Crowder is making it seem as if 68 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:57.360 it's a definitive statement that In fact, Candice Owns believes 69 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:00.000 that Donald Trump ordered to hit against Charlie Kirk. 70 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:08.000 Outrageous claims, and this is an outrageous claim, require outrageous evidence, 71 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:12.879 of course, as is par for the course. None has 72 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:16.400 been presented. And I know that there might be an 73 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:19.879 out a weaseling here saying, well, I said the Fed, 74 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:21.400 not the Trump administration. 75 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:24.800 I said a boulevard in Israel. It's pretty clear. 76 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:30.000 Not clear what she said, was they the Fed give 77 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:33.159 you a boulevard when they that's a sure sign that 78 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:35.520 they have killed you. You know that they have killed you. 79 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:38.840 He was betrayed in the worst way possible, giving so 80 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:45.639 much of his life to the Trump presidency, to politics, 81 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:50.360 the federal government. The Trump administration killed Charlie Kirk, is 82 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:50.800 the claim. 83 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:53.400 I don't believe that, and I doubt she does either. 84 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:59.120 But he interprets this even more absurdly by dragging Charlie's wife, 85 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:00.560 Eric Occurr into this. 86 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:04.000 Here's now, I'm going to tell you how I feel 87 00:04:04.039 --> 00:04:05.879 about it, what I think about it, because you know 88 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:10.439 who else would have to be involved. And this is 89 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:12.560 the implication, of course, by design. And you can see 90 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:16.240 the response with people out there saying Oh, well, then 91 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:18.879 anyone who's close to Yeah, this is an inside job. 92 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:21.000 You know who's really close to President Trump? And you 93 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:25.759 know who people are now saying stood to gain Charlie's wife, 94 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:30.040 Erica Kirk, who has now been put Candace with that language, 95 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:33.680 with this accusation, has put the wife of Charlie Kirk. 96 00:04:33.879 --> 00:04:35.360 And she'll say, that's not what I try to do. 97 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:40.279 It is it's the result Erica Kirk in the crosshairs. 98 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:44.199 So if the Trump administration, if the FED killed Charlie Kirk. Look, 99 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:46.600 there's no middle ground here right now. 100 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:49.120 Either Erica Kirk. 101 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:55.319 Is evil and was in on it, or Candace Owens 102 00:04:56.439 --> 00:05:03.360 is an evil I hope I'm being really clear about that. Oh, 103 00:05:03.399 --> 00:05:06.319 you're being really clear. You're just not making any fucking 104 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:07.160 sense whatsoever. 105 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:11.160 I mean, let's rewind a little bit, because I think 106 00:05:11.680 --> 00:05:14.160 in a five to six week period, especially with a 107 00:05:14.199 --> 00:05:16.319 news cycle that's been as fast as this one has, 108 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:20.800 it's very easy to forget some of the order of operations, 109 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:23.839 how things played out, and also things that have been said. 110 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:25.839 I think a lot of people forget some of the 111 00:05:25.879 --> 00:05:28.720 track record with these people. So let's first start with 112 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:34.439 the fact that Kennice Owens herself said explicitly, there are 113 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:36.680 only two people on this planet that could get her 114 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:41.120 to stop digging into her personal investigation figuring out who 115 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:46.279 killed her friend, and that is her family and Erica Kirk. 116 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:50.959 No one, and I mean absolutely no one outside of 117 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:55.240 my husband and Erica Kirk has the power to shut 118 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:55.879 me up right now. 119 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:58.319 But she didn't have to say that, but she made 120 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:00.720 sure to put it out there, kind of putting it 121 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:03.240 out there that Erica could tell me to be quiet 122 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:07.120 and guess what I'm coming out with these episodes because 123 00:06:07.160 --> 00:06:10.279 she hasn't. And then you have to think about that, 124 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:15.800 Why hasn't Erica ever said be quiet? If Erica did 125 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:19.879 even even a tenth of what Candace has done, even 126 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:23.920 said just a few sentences, they would lose all their donors. 127 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:27.920 They could easily lose all their donors, all the big ones, 128 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.680 they could just lose them. But if Erica stays silent, 129 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:33.879 and she just stays as graceful as she has, because 130 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:36.680 that's all she's been doing, she's just been incredibly graceful. 131 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.879 So I want you to ask yourself if Candace is 132 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:43.240 trying to throw shade at Erica, if she's trying to 133 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:46.879 basically say that she was involved in the murder of 134 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:51.079 her own husband. Would she be giving her the green 135 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:53.600 light to get her to stop just by saying the 136 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:58.480 word please stop? That seems odd, doesn't it. That seems 137 00:06:58.519 --> 00:07:01.120 a little bit out of left face if Steven Crowder's 138 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:02.120 interpretation is right. 139 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:02.920 And the reason that. 140 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:05.800 It's out of left field is because it's fucking nuts. 141 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:11.079 It's totally wrong. And I think with malice it is wrong. 142 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:14.439 And I'll tell you why I think that. Here's another 143 00:07:14.639 --> 00:07:18.600 titbit of history in this six week insane cycle of 144 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:22.560 news with this entire attack story, is that who was 145 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:26.800 the very first person to break a big news story 146 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:29.399 when it came to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I 147 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:31.519 bet you can't even remember. I'm sure some of you can, 148 00:07:31.600 --> 00:07:33.720 but I bet most of you can't remember. Stephen Crowder. 149 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:38.720 Stephen Crowder in the wee hours of I think it 150 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:42.360 was September tenth, no of the eleventh, the day after 151 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:46.800 the attack on Charlie Kirk, he releases He says, I 152 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.519 got breaking news. He is the one who broke the 153 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:54.959 story that the shellcasings had been engraved with you know, 154 00:07:55.480 --> 00:08:00.360 pro trans rhetoric, whatever, that means, isn't it interesting and 155 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:04.800 interesting that Stephen Crowder, of all people, who is clearly 156 00:08:05.319 --> 00:08:10.160 intentionally with malice smearing Candace Owens, who has been doggedly 157 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:15.199 digging into this case, he was also privy to inside 158 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:19.759 information from the Sheriff's Department in Utah in the early 159 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:25.160 hours of the investigation. Isn't that an unbelievable coincidence? And 160 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:28.040 it makes me wonder And I'm just wondering. I don't know, 161 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:32.120 but it makes me wonder, sincerely, if Stephen Crowder is 162 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:37.279 inop if he's not involved deeply on some level of 163 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.120 intelligence agencies or something, or at least he has sources 164 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:46.000 that are feeding him information and maybe this is his payback. Hey, 165 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.559 you remember when we gave you that hot story that 166 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:52.879 went crazy viral and brought you back into the mainstream 167 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:57.000 relevance for a couple weeks. Well, Candice Owens has given 168 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:58.360 us a lot of problems, and we're going to need 169 00:08:58.399 --> 00:08:59.600 you to take her down a pen. 170 00:09:00.039 --> 00:09:01.960 Could you do that? Sure? All right? Thanks? 171 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:05.000 It'll go viral too, by the way, because as much 172 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:07.960 as people are supporting Candid's, equal amounts are demonizing her. 173 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:11.440 So it's a it's not a hard sell. Right. 174 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:15.120 Look, I'm just this is my honest opinion. I don't 175 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:17.639 know how you hear what Candace said, like you can 176 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:20.559 hear what Candace says there and completely disagree. Of course, 177 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:23.639 I'm not even sure I agree. I think that there's 178 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:27.240 certainly not everybody who gets a street named after them 179 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:30.879 was murdered by the federal government. Okay, not everybody. And 180 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:32.879 she's saying like, that's a share sign. That's not a 181 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:35.000 share sign. I grew up in San Diego. There was 182 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:40.000 Ted Williams Parkway, Ted Williams Baseball great not murdered by 183 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:42.799 the government. I'm pretty confident. I'm pretty confident about that one. 184 00:09:42.960 --> 00:09:45.120 So this is not a uniform statement, and I think 185 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:47.840 she's being hyperbolic. But it is also true in my 186 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:51.039 opinion that Martin Luther King Junior was and he's got 187 00:09:51.080 --> 00:09:53.120 a whole lot of streets, and yeah, they are on 188 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:55.240 the rough side of the tracks almost all the time. 189 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:00.120 And I think it's fair to wonder if perhaps Charlie 190 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:02.600 Kirk was taken out by the federal government for his 191 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:05.879 shift on opinion when it comes to our greatest ally. 192 00:10:05.840 --> 00:10:08.559 Manytimes, the whole country's a fortress when I first heard 193 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:12.639 this story. I still have the same gut instinct that 194 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:15.000 I did initially. I find this very hard to believe. 195 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:18.200 I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go ten 196 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.799 feet without running into a nineteen year old with an 197 00:10:21.039 --> 00:10:23.679 AR fifteen or an automatic machine gun that as an 198 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:27.360 IDF soldier. Right, the whole country is surveilled. And so 199 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:29.759 let me just kind of go through this. We don't 200 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.399 talk about Israeli politics very often, and most Americans don't 201 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:34.600 know this. The last nine months Israel was on the 202 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:37.960 brink of civil war. It's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff. 203 00:10:38.519 --> 00:10:40.840 There were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the 204 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:45.240 streets because bb Netnyah, who is basically redefining the Israeli constitution. 205 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:47.799 That's not an exaggeration, right. He said the judicial branch 206 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:51.480 is too much power. There were protests planned this week 207 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:54.919 against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people 208 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:59.000 to take to the streets. That's all gone, Patrick, Netanyaho 209 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:01.639 now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead. 210 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:04.799 I'm not willing to say to go so far that's 211 00:11:04.759 --> 00:11:07.240 saying that net Yahoo knew or there is intelligence here. 212 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:09.240 But I think some questions need to be asked. Was 213 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.360 there a stand down order? Was there a stand down 214 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:17.120 order six hours? I don't believe it. 215 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:19.919 It's a fair question to ask. It doesn't mean it's true. 216 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:23.440 It means it's a legitimate question to ask, of course, 217 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:26.320 And anybody trying to stop you from asking that question 218 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:28.320 is not your ally. 219 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:29.120 I promise you. 220 00:11:29.159 --> 00:11:33.480 They are interested in firewalling you from genuine inquiry into 221 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:36.600 the nation who is responsible and famously so for the 222 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:39.679 most political assassinations of any nation on the planet over 223 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:43.600 the past one hundred years, seventy five whatever. Okay, it's 224 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.840 totally fair for you to ask that. And maybe it's 225 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:49.039 not fair to say definitively, I know, because you don't 226 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.159 have proof. That's I'll be the first to critique eint care, 227 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:55.000 buddy of mine, I critique him. Don't say definitively if 228 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:59.039 you don't have proof, that doesn't help. But anybody telling 229 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:03.799 you you can't even consider it, that's even worse. That's 230 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:07.559 like definitely someone who's interested in painting a picture, crafting 231 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:11.799 a narrative, keeping you from actual genuine inquiry into what 232 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:15.240 matters tremendously, which is who actually did this and why? 233 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.360 Which we still don't know definitively, and. 234 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:20.440 That's why I've come to the defense time and time 235 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:22.480 agative Candice owns. Even though I think that she has 236 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:25.679 been sloppy at times, I think she has been reckless 237 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:28.320 at times when it comes to how she has covered 238 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:31.120 this story from talking about b cults and all sorts. 239 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:33.759 I mean, she's just thrown shit at the wall sometimes, 240 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:37.399 but she has also brought to the four more valid 241 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:41.039 information than just about anybody. And that's why I defend her, 242 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:43.759 because you can take the good with the bat, and 243 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.519 that's kind of it's a shotgun blast of information and 244 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:47.759 you have to sort it out yourself. 245 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:49.919 So I just want to be very clear. 246 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.399 I have appreciated her efforts, despite the fact that I 247 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:55.200 think she has gotten out over her skis a few 248 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:59.639 times and probably put undue cause for concern on other 249 00:12:59.679 --> 00:13:03.440 people that were within Charlie's inner circle that probably don't 250 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:07.600 deserve it. I mean almost certainly some of them probably do, though, 251 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:10.000 and that's where the good with the bad comes. 252 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:11.600 Right. Here's a good example of this. 253 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:14.200 I want to be very clear, I'm making no allegations 254 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:18.559 against this guy whatsoever, but this is yet another example 255 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:22.639 of someone in Charlie's inner circle behaving very strangely in 256 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:25.440 the aftermath of this attack. His name is Mike McCoy 257 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:28.440 or Mikey McCoy, and he is the chief of staff 258 00:13:28.519 --> 00:13:32.039 for Charlie kirk Kirk under TPUSA, and he has this 259 00:13:32.559 --> 00:14:09.960 very odd reaction after the shooting. Gang finds great and 260 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:12.159 I've scrolled his Instagram and it seems like they were 261 00:14:12.159 --> 00:14:15.320 definitely friends. He Charlie was at his wedding, and like, 262 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:20.519 it's very unusual behavior, like just putting myself in his shoes. 263 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:23.399 If I see my friend get shot, I'm almost either 264 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:26.279 either I'm running or I'm running towards him to try 265 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:27.919 and get him to the ground faster because I'm trying 266 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:28.960 to save my friend's life. 267 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:31.159 He doesn't neither. He picks up his phone. 268 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:32.799 It looks like he's putting his phone to his head, 269 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:38.320 and then he immediately and casually walks away. It's unusual. 270 00:14:38.559 --> 00:14:40.480 But the reason I'm saying very clearly that I'm not 271 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:43.919 making any allegations against him is that people do really 272 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:47.080 weird shit in times of crisis. That's just the truth. 273 00:14:47.840 --> 00:14:50.720 A lot of people freeze, a lot of people run, 274 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:54.200 a lot of people just do odd stuff. You had 275 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:58.080 that one guy jumps up and like throws his hands 276 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.360 and starts a USA chant. Maybe he is an op, 277 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:04.240 maybe he's a lunatic. People do weird shit, And when 278 00:15:04.240 --> 00:15:07.440 you got three thousand people there for an event that 279 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:11.759 is an obvious, like crazy crisis moment, you're gonna have 280 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:15.159 some weird shit that is not, in fact indicative of 281 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:19.039 involvement in the murder of Charlie Kirk. So I think 282 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:21.919 it's really important that when people see weird stuff like that, 283 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:25.519 it's fair to ask questions, absolutely, but please be careful 284 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:28.320 about making allegations against people that were close to Charlie 285 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:30.440 that behaved weirdly. 286 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:32.799 I'll admit, but you don't know why. 287 00:15:33.679 --> 00:15:36.200 Maybe he got on his phone right away because he 288 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:37.879 realized that there was an attack and he was calling. 289 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:41.440 I don't know, the authority is a hospital something like. 290 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:43.639 These are all things that could be proven out, though, 291 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:49.200 and if you had a functioning FBI, a functioning investigatory body, 292 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:51.960 be it local or federal, then they would give you 293 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:55.159 those answers and hopefully they're digging. So that's the reason 294 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:57.639 that I mentioned it is like, it's not to say 295 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:00.720 that it's nothing but It's also to be very clear 296 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:02.919 that it doesn't mean that it's everything. We don't know 297 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:06.720 what it is. It's very strange, but it could be nothing. 298 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:10.440 So just be careful, especially when you're dealing with people who, 299 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:13.000 if they are innocent, as I said a week or 300 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:17.039 two ago with Charlie's wife, be very careful about making 301 00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:21.759 accusations against if she is innocent. You're attacking a wife 302 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:24.039 and a mother who is mourning the loss of her 303 00:16:24.120 --> 00:16:28.320 husband and one of the most graphic public political assassinations, 304 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.519 I mean, the most in my life. But getting back 305 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:35.440 to Crowder, what are you doing, Steven Crowder? This is 306 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:39.879 I'm sincerely asking you, what are you intending to do? 307 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:42.879 What are you attempting to do? Because this seems like 308 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:46.879 such an intentional smear job against Candis Owans, claiming that 309 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:51.679 she is in fact alleging that Charlie's wife was involved 310 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:54.720 with a murder of her own husband, when in fact 311 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:58.600 Candis Owans has not said that, and to a large extent, 312 00:16:58.679 --> 00:17:02.200 she's basically said the opposite, that she will stop if 313 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:04.960 Erica Kirk tells her to. And I might also add 314 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:09.359 that Cannis Owens and Erica Kirk started following each other 315 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:11.799 after the attack. They did not follow each other prior 316 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:15.160 to the attack. And I think that's interesting. Doesn't mean everything, 317 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:19.160 but it could be something for sure that perhaps Erica 318 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:24.319 enjoys that Candas is doing this, she appreciates it. Perhaps 319 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:27.920 she's feeding her information. That's something that people ought to 320 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:32.759 be asking themselves if Candis Owns is tarnishing Charlie's legacy 321 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:36.440 and jeopardizing his organization and all this stuff, which is 322 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:38.839 what a lot of the detractors of Candis Owns are saying. 323 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:42.519 Erica Kirk, who's now basically taking over at the helm 324 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:46.400 of TPUSA, who has a green light from Candas Owns, 325 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:49.000 who said in public if you tell me to shut up, 326 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:52.960 I will, hasn't done. So why is it hurting her brand? 327 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:56.480 Is it hurting the case, the investigation and the murder 328 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:59.240 of her husband? Doesn't seem like she feels that way. 329 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:02.039 So what are you doing, Stephen Crowder? What exactly are 330 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:02.400 you doing? 331 00:18:02.480 --> 00:18:02.799 Buddy? 332 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:06.119 And I'll just say in conclusion, I'm not sure, but 333 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:09.200 it strikes me as op like behavior. It does, and 334 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:11.599 it makes me wonder how you got those leads about 335 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:13.960 the shellcasings in the wee hours of the next day, 336 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:17.000 how'd you do that? And why are you intentionally taking 337 00:18:17.039 --> 00:18:18.759 her out of context? Not even out of context, you're 338 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:20.799 playing the clip and then just lying about what she said. 339 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:23.119 Weird, weird behavior. 340 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:25.799 But he's not the only one got so seth Dylan 341 00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:27.400 going on with Dana Loshan. 342 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.279 Do you think that some of this is maybe the 343 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.119 consequence of, you know, it's great to have a coalition 344 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:36.519 or a big tint, but there's certain things that are 345 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:40.640 just persona non grata in a coalition and using identity 346 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:42.799 politics like the left ought to be one of them. 347 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:45.039 Is some of this a failure to enforce that? 348 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:47.839 Oh, certainly. 349 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:50.400 I just wrote about this in the Free Press, by 350 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:53.359 the way, talking about the foolishness of the no enemies 351 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:56.599 to the right principle. I think it's not just foolish, 352 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:00.240 it's immoral, you know, to not draw a line, to 353 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:02.920 not be willing to say, you know, there are certain 354 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:04.680 people that you won't lock arms with. 355 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:08.319 A lot of these things. These are things that were 356 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:08.680 the right. 357 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:10.440 There was a lot more moral clarity on the right 358 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:14.039 several years ago, where the alt right or you know, 359 00:19:14.079 --> 00:19:18.200 this white supremacist kind of like equal but opposite reaction 360 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:21.240 to like the leftist antifa thugs. Like everybody kind of 361 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:24.119 saw that as being this really fringe, really nasty thing 362 00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:26.160 that we didn't want any part of, and we distinguished 363 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:28.599 between ourselves and them. We're like, they keep calling Trump, 364 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:31.400 you know, and his supporters Nazis and Hitler and whatever, like, 365 00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:33.359 we're not like that. There may be people like that 366 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:35.319 on the fringe far right, but we're not like them, 367 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:38.119 we would distinguish. Now there are calls to join with 368 00:19:38.160 --> 00:19:40.119 them and to bring them into the movement. They're just 369 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:45.799 filled with bigotry and hatred, they have authoritarian impulses, they're collectivists. 370 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:47.359 Like you add all these things up and it's like, 371 00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:50.279 how could we possibly benefit from having them in the 372 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:52.400 conservative movement? That doesn't make any sense. You know, this 373 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:55.119 is a real reckoning for conservatives to decide what is 374 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:57.799 our identity? What is a conservative? That's the next question 375 00:19:57.839 --> 00:19:59.200 that we need to be asking me. We had that 376 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:02.000 question about what was a woman, Now we need to 377 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:03.240 have it about what is a conservative. 378 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:05.759 Well, we agree on one thing, we should be asking 379 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:08.559 what a conservative is. And I also agree that I'm 380 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:12.680 not very fond of collectivists or identitarians, which makes me 381 00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:16.319 ask the obvious next question, which is, why is it 382 00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:19.160 that you're so permissive, Why are you so accepting? Why 383 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.079 are you so willing to excommunicate anybody who's not willing 384 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:27.039 to accept the obvious collective identitarian worldview of zionis? 385 00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:27.920 Why is that the. 386 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:30.079 One exception that should be allowed for on the right, 387 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:33.000 but Nick Fuentes has to be excommunicated. 388 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:33.880 Isn't that interesting? 389 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:37.799 So my argument would be, if you want to get 390 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:39.799 rid of the white nationalists, well then you ought to 391 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:42.880 be getting rid of the Jewish nationalists too. On the 392 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:46.319 right wing. That should not be permissible either, but it is. 393 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:50.039 There's an exception being made, and that interesting, which draws 394 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:54.480 into question your credibility, your entire worldview for that matter. 395 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:57.319 You seem to be a fraud and I'm calling you that. 396 00:20:58.200 --> 00:21:01.400 I think that's my opinion. You are being a fraudulent actor. 397 00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:04.200 You're trying to gate keep a right wing movement, which 398 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:06.400 you have no right to do. You have no right 399 00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:09.319 to do so because you're not even maintaining your own 400 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:13.519 worldview in the prescription or description of what's transpiring right now. 401 00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:18.079