Speaker 1: Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge News episodes. Tonight,
Speaker 1: my guest is Matthew Landman. He is a researcher, lecturer,
Speaker 1: and documentary filmmaker. He worked on a farm and it
Speaker 1: was being there that opened his eyes for the first
Speaker 1: time to the Franken Skies we never knew. From the
Speaker 1: day he realized something abnormal was occurring in our skies,
Speaker 1: he was driven to do something about it. Through his
Speaker 1: devotion and passion, he has realized incredible traction via social media.
Speaker 1: His goal is simple, it is unity. Matthew, welcome back.
Speaker 1: How are you doing tonight.
Speaker 2: Hey, Chris, doing pretty great. Thanks for asking. Interesting times
Speaker 2: we're living in, especially today right now as the narrative
Speaker 2: starts to shift to climate change in global warming, and
Speaker 2: it's all geoengineering that's pushing that narrative. So my role
Speaker 2: is getting a little more exacerbated and just trying to
Speaker 2: figure out what to do about it and how to
Speaker 2: play it all out and win this battle. It's going
Speaker 2: to be a long journey.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and you've been at it for a good
Speaker 1: while now, and I applaud you for that. It's been
Speaker 1: a long time since you've been on this show. I
Speaker 1: remember hearing hearing about you a few years ago watching
Speaker 1: Franken Skies and noting the work that you've done, and
Speaker 1: then having you on my show. I think it was
Speaker 1: in like twenty eighteen. You were actually one of the
Speaker 1: very first guests I ever had on here. But it's
Speaker 1: good to have you back on. We do have a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about, because, like you said, a lot
Speaker 1: has happened since we last spoke, including a globalist attempt
Speaker 1: to destroy humanity. But what let's start with a little
Speaker 1: bit about your background, since it has been so long
Speaker 1: and for the audience that's not familiar with you, what
Speaker 1: was it that really opened your eyes to some of
Speaker 1: the aspects of reality that we're being deceived by.
Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, thanks for asking, and hello everyone. My name's
Speaker 2: Matt Landman. You can find me on Facebook Matt la
Speaker 2: N D m A N. And I've got my movie
Speaker 2: Frankin Skies that it used to be really easy to find,
Speaker 2: but now that I've lost my YouTube channel and cisorship
Speaker 2: is rampant, it's not so easy. But you can go
Speaker 2: to Frankinskies dot com where I've got it there forever
Speaker 2: alive and well. But me, I I've lived the life
Speaker 2: of a pretty normal dude. I mean, would I classify
Speaker 2: as normal. You know, I've had like forty different jobs
Speaker 2: and stuff. I guess most normal people like get a
Speaker 2: job and stick it, and you know, get the mortgage
Speaker 2: and stay in one place. I've traveled a lot and
Speaker 2: moved around a lot. I grew up in Virginia, but
Speaker 2: I kept leaving because I didn't want to be there
Speaker 2: and I didn't really know where I wanted to be
Speaker 2: and my journey of like waking up, you asked, kind
Speaker 2: of it sounded like, Well, I lived in northern Virginia,
Speaker 2: just right outside of Washington, DC when nine to eleven happened,
Speaker 2: So that hit really close to home. Dallas Airport it's
Speaker 2: like ten minutes from my house, fifteen minutes from my house,
Speaker 2: and DC's another like a half an hour from where
Speaker 2: I lived. And you know, like the plane got hijacked
Speaker 2: from Dollas Airport right there and flown into the Pentagon
Speaker 2: right over there. And my girlfriend at the time went
Speaker 2: to Pace University, which is in Manhattan, and it just
Speaker 2: it's right there next to the World Trade Center. It's
Speaker 2: just a dwarfs It's dwarfed by the trades towers. It
Speaker 2: was at least and the phone lines were down that
Speaker 2: whole day, and I was calling my girlfriend all day
Speaker 2: and I was really worried and upset. And when I
Speaker 2: learned through Dylan Avery, thank you Dylan Avery for the
Speaker 2: documentary Loose Change, and through the Zeitgeist movies and one
Speaker 2: of my first friends, Keith Patton, random friend, he was
Speaker 2: passing out Zeitgeist DVDs to peak the delivery men and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. This is back in like, you know,
Speaker 2: the year two thousand and one and whatnot in two
Speaker 2: thousand and three, what have you. So it's been an interesting,
Speaker 2: slow and steady ride for me personally. And I never
Speaker 2: knew any of this deep stuff like vaccines or kim
Speaker 2: trails or even fluoride. I didn't know much about any
Speaker 2: of it. Slowly, after nine to eleven, I learned about fluoride.
Speaker 2: And then I ended up pursuing my life dream of
Speaker 2: learning about filmmaking and going to school for it and
Speaker 2: getting some proper education on filmmaking, which I never knew
Speaker 2: I was going to be a documentary filmmaker. I thought
Speaker 2: I was going to be maybe an actor or a
Speaker 2: director of like narratives or whatever. I didn't know, but
Speaker 2: I never thought i'd do this. It kind of worked
Speaker 2: out pretty well because I got a master's degree in business,
Speaker 2: so I've got a little bit of business background, and
Speaker 2: I worked as a finance analyst, and I worked all
Speaker 2: these different jobs in business, and now that's helped me
Speaker 2: along with my EMF protective protection clothing line and whatnot.
Speaker 2: That I have sparrow spe which is a Latin word.
Speaker 2: It's translated to hope. We could talk about that later.
Speaker 2: But what happened was is I went to school finally again. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I went to Virginia Tech. I got a bachelor's
Speaker 2: of science and marketing and management. And right after I
Speaker 2: left there was that crazy school shooting. And later I
Speaker 2: learned about MK Ultra and all that sort of stuff,
Speaker 2: and so all of that is close to home. You know,
Speaker 2: all these realizations and aha moments and eye openings and
Speaker 2: third eye openings or whatever like these things are. They
Speaker 2: were all there the whole time. Even the sky was
Speaker 2: there the whole time. You know, it's unreal. And I
Speaker 2: was duked when nine to eleven happened. I was scared
Speaker 2: to death. And I was always afraid of needles. I
Speaker 2: never got a blood I never get blood, I never
Speaker 2: got the flu shot or anything like that. But I
Speaker 2: never thought it was because of anything aside from like
Speaker 2: just this deep innate like you know, gut wrenching, like
Speaker 2: I hate those things. So either way, I got a
Speaker 2: job on a farm after I graduated from school the
Speaker 2: second time. Because I got the business degree. I didn't
Speaker 2: have the film background. There was no film school to
Speaker 2: go to in Virginia, and I wanted to get in
Speaker 2: situition and whatnot. You know, that's the life of someone
Speaker 2: that doesn't have too much money. And I ended up
Speaker 2: going to school again, cal State Humboldt at the very
Speaker 2: northern top of California, a very rural community, and there
Speaker 2: I got a master's in business. And I'm so glad
Speaker 2: I got went to school before all this nonsense. Because
Speaker 2: everything's so online now and you got to show your
Speaker 2: COVID Certificate of inoculation or whatever to even go to
Speaker 2: school and be around humans now, and everything's changed. I'm
Speaker 2: so glad that I got to do that. It was
Speaker 2: such an amazing opportunity for me. I graduated, tought my class.
Speaker 2: You know, I really worked hard then because I wanted
Speaker 2: to give it all I could. And while I was
Speaker 2: getting the NBA, I basically got a film degree as
Speaker 2: well on the side, and that's where I learned about filmmaking.
Speaker 2: And so I got out of school and I worked
Speaker 2: in the office again and it sucked. And I got
Speaker 2: the opportunity to work on an organic farm growing all
Speaker 2: sorts of vegetables and I mean, you name it, potatoes
Speaker 2: and pumpkins and squash and all this, and I took
Speaker 2: the job. I left the cubicle, the office, I left
Speaker 2: it for the last time, I guess in retrospect, and
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I've had forty freaking jobs, restaurant,
Speaker 2: real estate, you name it. I've worked all these different
Speaker 2: things trying to find my way where I would like to,
Speaker 2: you know, find my niche and be happy and not
Speaker 2: and be okay with like halving people tell me what
Speaker 2: to do, which I'm not. So in the end, I'm
Speaker 2: on a farm and it was great. I got grounded.
Speaker 2: I learned about the elements. And at the age of
Speaker 2: like thirty four, I guess it was around then twenty
Speaker 2: fourteen ish or twenty twenty fourteen or thirteen. I was
Speaker 2: around thirty three or thirty four and day one on
Speaker 2: the farm, and I'm almost done. Thank you for listening
Speaker 2: to the story. Day one on the farm, I learned
Speaker 2: that potatoes drew potatoes, and a lot of people are
Speaker 2: kind of laughing, and a lot of people are like,
Speaker 2: wait what, And maybe you've heard me say this before.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to be a broken record, but guess what.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. And I thought I knew everything.
Speaker 2: I'd gotten a master's a degree in business, and i'd,
Speaker 2: you know, gone to this great public school. They said
Speaker 2: it was the best in the country. But and I've
Speaker 2: i you know, I did a lot, and I thought
Speaker 2: i'd known things. I didn't know anything. Man, they've kept
Speaker 2: that from me. I didn't know. There's different varieties of limits.
Speaker 2: I didn't know hardly anything, but I thought I knew
Speaker 2: so much. So on day one, I'm like, wait, you
Speaker 2: just put the potato in the ground and gross a
Speaker 2: bunch of potatoes. That's what the potato is trying to
Speaker 2: do in my pantry, was trying to grow a bunch
Speaker 2: of potatoes. They're trying to limit that information from me.
Speaker 2: So I am reliant on the grocery store and the
Speaker 2: system in capitalism. I gotta go pay for potatoes when
Speaker 2: I could easily have a flourishing potato garden over the years,
Speaker 2: I could learn how to do these things on my
Speaker 2: own and cultivate these things on my own and grow
Speaker 2: fruits and all these things. I mean, the first time
Speaker 2: that I saw an apple tree, I literally was blown
Speaker 2: the I was blown away, bro, because I thought apple
Speaker 2: trees had like four or five apples on them, like
Speaker 2: how I drew and I was like, I had no
Speaker 2: idea how abundant the world was, even as an adult.
Speaker 2: And on the farm, I was grounded, and I started
Speaker 2: to just get muscles and get it in my body.
Speaker 2: And this one day, it was the end of the season,
Speaker 2: and we're supposed to get catastrophic with this downpour of
Speaker 2: rain for like a week, and we were excited about
Speaker 2: this almost flood of rain because we're in the midst
Speaker 2: of like a five year drought which was catastrophic, and California,
Speaker 2: the whole state was hopeful for this jet stream of
Speaker 2: moisture that had somehow not been hitting California for the
Speaker 2: you know, the half decade. The weather set one hundred
Speaker 2: percent chances of rain for a week. The amphibious creatures
Speaker 2: came out from underneath my house, like salamanders and frogs,
Speaker 2: and everyone was excited. The plants, the trees, the redwoods.
Speaker 2: The energy was it's about to dump rain, and these
Speaker 2: black storm clouds were coming off the ocean. I can
Speaker 2: like see the ocean pretty much from where the farm
Speaker 2: was where I work. I could hear the waves from
Speaker 2: where I worked and this rural farm community where I worked,
Speaker 2: and on a daily basis, I would see one plane
Speaker 2: flying over. It was a very rural atmosphere. There's not
Speaker 2: much air traffic. I'm in the middle of nowhere, and
Speaker 2: on this day I saw something that I'd actually like.
Speaker 2: I put the I shelved the memory, which is very interesting.
Speaker 2: And we have to talk about them for a second,
Speaker 2: about the psychology of the human mind. Because we see things,
Speaker 2: we don't know how to compute them. We don't have
Speaker 2: a reference point, and or maybe our reference point is
Speaker 2: some conspiratorial nonsense, propaganda, misinformation, social engineering, campaign crap off
Speaker 2: of the New York Times US a day or like
Speaker 2: some you know, media conglomerate, and they're telling you how
Speaker 2: to think about something. So then you were your first
Speaker 2: introduced something. You don't recognize the truth in it, but
Speaker 2: what I witnessed on this farm. I'm out here harvesting
Speaker 2: pumpkins because we're worried these pumpkins are going to rot
Speaker 2: in the field and farmer Paul is going to lose
Speaker 2: his ass. We're worried about the harvest of the year
Speaker 2: because the rains are coming early usually they come and
Speaker 2: and it's October, early October, so these big storm clouds
Speaker 2: are coming off the ocean. It's going to rain for
Speaker 2: a week. And we're out there harvesting. I've got raining jacket,
Speaker 2: rain boots on, and I'm working hard, you know. And
Speaker 2: on the edge of these this storm, Okay, as it
Speaker 2: rolled in, on the edge of the storm, there's plane.
Speaker 2: These planes showed up and there's zigs. They're flying in
Speaker 2: front of the storm, you know. And it wasn't just
Speaker 2: that they had arrived, which is a statistical anomaly, which
Speaker 2: is something to recognize because oftentimes there's very sparse air traffic,
Speaker 2: and when there's a lot more air traffic, what are
Speaker 2: they doing. Let's take a look at the sky, like
Speaker 2: if you really looked up, you can wake up just
Speaker 2: in that. But what I witnessed was these persistent linear,
Speaker 2: serious cloud formations. These kim trails coming out of the
Speaker 2: back of these jets, and about twenty or a dozen
Speaker 2: or fifteen ish you know jets, there's zigzagging on the
Speaker 2: storm front, leaving these lines and going into them the
Speaker 2: storm there, and as the storm came into this haze
Speaker 2: that they've created, no rain drop for the whole week,
Speaker 2: no rain drop, not a drop, And I thought nothing
Speaker 2: of it. I was just like, Okay, weird, no rain whatever.
Speaker 2: And I didn't think that there was a correlation or
Speaker 2: even a causation to the non raining and the clouds,
Speaker 2: I mean, and the fake clouds that the kimshrow clouds.
Speaker 2: The planes they are traffic. So the memory just sat
Speaker 2: in my brain until like six months later. I was
Speaker 2: venting to a buddy on the phone on the in
Speaker 2: the East coast about nine to eleven. And the kids
Speaker 2: nowadays don't know anything about it, because I had these
Speaker 2: young friends, because I was going to college, you know,
Speaker 2: and I'm surrounded by youngsters, and I was in my
Speaker 2: mid thirties and these kids are like eighteen, and when
Speaker 2: they were born, nine to eleven had already happened. They
Speaker 2: had no reference point. They didn't have a girlfriend in
Speaker 2: New York and whatever like I had, and literally, these people,
Speaker 2: normal kids out there in the world, they want to
Speaker 2: look these things up and they do and they google
Speaker 2: it and they quote they say this, I've seen both
Speaker 2: sides of the story, and there's both sides of the
Speaker 2: story right there in front of them. They don't have
Speaker 2: any reason to pick one or the other. And they're
Speaker 2: just like, I can't choose the the conspiracy government did
Speaker 2: it or the other side. So I was venting to
Speaker 2: my buddy and he said, yeah, you know, they weren't
Speaker 2: even born when nine to eleven happened, But what about
Speaker 2: Kim trails? The right in their faces, Matt, And I
Speaker 2: was like, what do you mean. Lorenzo my homie back
Speaker 2: home that I grew up with, and he was like,
Speaker 2: you know, Kim trails And he was like, you showed
Speaker 2: me freaking loose Change and Zeitgeist and all this stuff.
Speaker 2: You don't know what Kim trails are, dude. He's like, dude,
Speaker 2: go get on the internet, google to where Kim trails.
Speaker 2: You'll know what I'm talking about. And I did, and
Speaker 2: the rest is basically history. Like I got mad. I
Speaker 2: realized that the activists that were doing the movies and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. It took me a couple of years
Speaker 2: to really put it together, but the opposition that existed
Speaker 2: I did. I realized that they weren't doing a good
Speaker 2: enough job. So I had to make Frankens guys and
Speaker 2: do the conferences and do all the stuff that I've done.
Speaker 2: But in the end I learned that they maybe weren't
Speaker 2: doing a good job on purpose. And then the plot
Speaker 2: dickens and it gets really interesting in all this stuff.
Speaker 2: But there's no contrail, there's no little trail coming out
Speaker 2: of jets. There's no hot air coming out like anytime
Speaker 2: you see anything it's a chemical. They're mixing chemicals. There's
Speaker 2: a whole orchestrated ballet of stuff going on in the
Speaker 2: sky often and they're messing with the weather. They're experimenting
Speaker 2: on a lot of stuff. They're causing fires and manipulating
Speaker 2: fires and droughts, and there's there's so much agenda at
Speaker 2: play with the global warming and gew engineering, weather modification
Speaker 2: and climate change. Yata da, thanks for listening. But that's
Speaker 2: my tim trail thing in a nutshell. But it was
Speaker 2: so fascinating to see that I didn't know even the word.
Speaker 2: I didn't know anything and all it took was one
Speaker 2: friend being like, dude, waked up and here I am,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So that's the power of
Speaker 2: everyone out there in the world, I think.
Speaker 1: Right, And this is one of the topics that kind
Speaker 1: of got me started down a lot of different rabbit
Speaker 1: holes as well. But since we last spoke, I've had
Speaker 1: several guests on with different I guess angles on the
Speaker 1: research into kim trails.
Speaker 3: I've had different theories.
Speaker 1: Onto why and how and what's the purpose and who's
Speaker 1: doing it and everything like that.
Speaker 3: One thing that I've.
Speaker 1: Possibly come to understand is that these atmospheric injections.
Speaker 3: Have multiple purposes.
Speaker 1: There's not just one, and it's hard to kind of
Speaker 1: to pinpoint what the agenda is because there's probably multiple
Speaker 1: and there's probably they probably think they're doing humanity good
Speaker 1: on this side, but it's really killing us on this side.
Speaker 1: So could you kind of break down based on your
Speaker 1: research in which you find out why they're doing this,
Speaker 1: what did exactly is they're spraying, and who's doing it purpose?
Speaker 1: You know, basically I've basic rundown.
Speaker 2: Of that happily, and that's that's a lot. So first,
Speaker 2: what I heard from you is that. It was one
Speaker 2: of the first things that I going down the rabbit hole,
Speaker 2: and Kim Trail's can be that door of truth. I
Speaker 2: always say truth is a frequency. Once you start writing
Speaker 2: that vibration of truth, all these other truths become self
Speaker 2: evident because you're on a new frequency, you know, And
Speaker 2: Kim Trails can totally open up your eyes to see like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, well, if they're doing that, then basically
Speaker 2: anything is possible. And then you can start to read
Speaker 2: the writing on the wall and you're literally watching movies
Speaker 2: and watching the news differently and everything becomes like a show.
Speaker 2: So the who, what, why, where, when and how is
Speaker 2: something that activists and even anyone who's waking up to
Speaker 2: this stuff that people they everyone out there, people us
Speaker 2: we want to be able to know all these things,
Speaker 2: to be able to convey the message to our friends,
Speaker 2: family and peers. Otherwise they ask us questions, we don't
Speaker 2: know the answers, and then we're conspiracy nut jobs and
Speaker 2: just wasn't even it was pointless even bring it up.
Speaker 2: So it is, it's complicated. It's all the farious, though
Speaker 2: I have no doubt it's all ne farious. A lot
Speaker 2: of people have good hearts, they want to think, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe the constituents were changed when Trump came into office,
Speaker 2: and oh maybe they're doing us good because of the
Speaker 2: Grand Solar Minimum and all this other nonsense. And a
Speaker 2: lot of this is propaganda. I'm sorry. It's it's disinformation,
Speaker 2: it's confusion tactics, and it's it's deep. It's really deep.
Speaker 2: And you've got to cultivate gut discernment. Don't listen to
Speaker 2: everything that I say, feel everything that I say, and
Speaker 2: if it doesn't resonate with you, maybe don't believe it.
Speaker 2: You know, do your own research. But when you say
Speaker 2: to your own research, that's hard because what you're looking
Speaker 2: on Google and like everything has changed even over the
Speaker 2: past few years. I can go on Google now and
Speaker 2: type in because I do a daily blog called Daily
Speaker 2: Truths on Actual Activists dot com. And it's kind of
Speaker 2: my rebuttal to the censorship on YouTube and Facebook and
Speaker 2: all these other platforms. So I've got this, like this
Speaker 2: daily truth thing, and I wanted to talk about how
Speaker 2: coca cola is acidic and you can melt pennies in it,
Speaker 2: and it's you know, not really healthy to drink coca cola.
Speaker 2: All right, So I've done research on coca cola throughout
Speaker 2: my entire life since the Internet was out there. And
Speaker 2: the search term like coca cola unhealthy now brings up
Speaker 2: the first search terms are and this is this is pertinent,
Speaker 2: you know, and this isn't just a little tangent. This
Speaker 2: is very important and pertinent. The first search terms on
Speaker 2: the front of Google tell me how healthy coca cola
Speaker 2: is because it hydrates you more than water. It's more
Speaker 2: hydrating than water because Coca Cola funded research got humans
Speaker 2: drinking water and coca cola, and then they urinate more
Speaker 2: of the water. They don't retain as much of the
Speaker 2: water and they do coca cola. Therefore, they have determined
Speaker 2: that coca cola is more hydrating, therefore more healthy than
Speaker 2: drinking water. And this Coca Cola funded research, I mean,
Speaker 2: like you can't even find like how do you do
Speaker 2: your own research? So your own research is in your gut,
Speaker 2: it's in your heart, and we're like cultivating this discernment
Speaker 2: and understanding. Basically, anything you do during the day, you
Speaker 2: can ask your gut and if your gut like twists
Speaker 2: and you go against it, and then you end up
Speaker 2: like you know, rolling your ankle or something because you
Speaker 2: shouldn't have gone that way or whatever. You start to learn,
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I can really feel the truth myself, Like
Speaker 2: it's deeper than you could ever imagine. So the who, what, why,
Speaker 2: we're win how? It's deep? Okay. There's a document called
Speaker 2: the Tropospheric Aerosol Program. Troposphere is a layer of the atmosphere.
Speaker 2: Tap Tropospheric aersol program from the Department of Energy. So
Speaker 2: tap doe pdf is your search term tap space doe
Speaker 2: space pdf and you get a PDF file. It's one
Speaker 2: hundred pages. Came out right before nine to eleven, two
Speaker 2: thousand and one, and it's the Department of Energy outlining
Speaker 2: their program of tropospheric aerosol program, a sprain aerosol spraying program,
Speaker 2: and they outline the whole thing. They spend millions of
Speaker 2: dollars on on not getting exposed by the public, five
Speaker 2: million dollars, and extrapolate their budget for years. This is
Speaker 2: in two thousand and one, and they have drones and
Speaker 2: planes and helicopters and all this stuff. Mixing chemicals. One
Speaker 2: of the first tests that they outline in the page,
Speaker 2: and it's very wordy. You have to really, I mean,
Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time being obsessed with the
Speaker 2: stock market, so I know how to kind of flip
Speaker 2: through financials and find the nitty gritty. You know. They
Speaker 2: really like to bullshit people in those financial documents, and
Speaker 2: if you're not, if you don't know what they're saying,
Speaker 2: you can get eaten alive by the fluff. You know,
Speaker 2: they fluff things up to get you to invest in
Speaker 2: their shit. But if they're not making a profit, they're
Speaker 2: not making a profit or whatever. You know. So in
Speaker 2: this document, it's very wordy, but I highly recommend anybody
Speaker 2: on Earth that breeds air, that cares about sunlight to
Speaker 2: take a gander at this because they reference precursor gases,
Speaker 2: and precursor gases are things they mix in the sky
Speaker 2: to mix with other longer looking trails, to like they're
Speaker 2: mixing chemicals all the time. There's precursor gases that they
Speaker 2: mix like primers to other gases that they mix. And
Speaker 2: the precursor gases are like the primer planes, which are
Speaker 2: what people call contrails, which are these short trails. So
Speaker 2: even these short trails are actually something being put up
Speaker 2: there to mix the soup with the other chemicals. And
Speaker 2: and that starts to answer the question of like the
Speaker 2: what's being sprayed A lot of different stuff. You can
Speaker 2: see shorter trails, longer trails, medium trails, and it's primarily barium, aluminum,
Speaker 2: and strontium, and that matches up with the patents and
Speaker 2: matches up with the rain water when people see these
Speaker 2: trails and they test the water and it lines up
Speaker 2: and people have like come to conclusions of this over
Speaker 2: you know, decades of you know, doing our own scientific analysis.
Speaker 2: But the trumpspheric Aerosol Program document, it's it's so deep
Speaker 2: because okay, that's just one program. The Department of Energy
Speaker 2: launched a spraying program and they gritted in the document.
Speaker 2: They gritted Nashville, Tennessee. They didn't pick some farmland that
Speaker 2: they owned, which they own a lot of land. I mean,
Speaker 2: they have power plants everywhere. They went over a very
Speaker 2: well populated city and they there's there's like twenty lines
Speaker 2: and they tell you they literally mix them together and
Speaker 2: watched the airflow because it's it's in three it's in
Speaker 2: three D. You've got air going up and down. And
Speaker 2: to write they got to study all of this XYZ
Speaker 2: and have things on the ground. And once they develop
Speaker 2: the technology. They're not just spraying chemicals and mixing them together.
Speaker 2: They're polarizing the chemicals. They're charging them negative and positive
Speaker 2: so that they track to each other. They're making them
Speaker 2: so that the chemicals mix and go in front of
Speaker 2: the sun, because that's one of the big goals is
Speaker 2: to drop, is to dim the sun. And they are
Speaker 2: zapping them with ground based radio frequency stations that intersect
Speaker 2: radio frequency waves that superheat these mixing aerosol chemicals to
Speaker 2: cause heat waves and high pressure systems and whatnot. It
Speaker 2: originated with this highly active HAARP. The higher ACTI of
Speaker 2: a rural research program is this HARP antenna array in Alaska.
Speaker 2: It's like this football field of antennas that are fifty
Speaker 2: feet foot tall, and they pick a central location in
Speaker 2: the atmosphere. It can be like a mile wide atmosphere location,
Speaker 2: and they coordinate all these antennas to intersect radio waves
Speaker 2: in this area of the atmosphere to superheat it. Research
Speaker 2: has been going on for decades and now they've streanked
Speaker 2: this technology into ionospheric heaters that are ground based. They're
Speaker 2: disguised as this nextra addoppler radar stuff, but they're using
Speaker 2: these stations. They claim they're Doppler radars, but they're not.
Speaker 2: And they're mobile, and they're also on mountaintops and stuff,
Speaker 2: and they're controlling the weathers and making heat waves and
Speaker 2: all this sort of stuff. So the trump ispheric Aerosol
Speaker 2: program from the Department of Energy is one program that's ongoing,
Speaker 2: and it's like it answers a lot of questions, who, what, why?
Speaker 1: Where?
Speaker 2: When?
Speaker 4: How?
Speaker 2: Because why would the Department of Energy this is dirty energy,
Speaker 2: coal oil, Why would they want to dim the sun? Well,
Speaker 2: maybe they don't want solar power to proliferate. Maybe they
Speaker 2: want their control because they're free contrillionaires and they're evil
Speaker 2: and they want their control over it all. Like I'm
Speaker 2: watching documentaries and getting a grasp on this climate change narrative.
Speaker 2: And guess who is the supposed opposition to the climate
Speaker 2: change narrative saying climate change isn't real, which is not.
Speaker 2: It's big oil and dirty energy, right, they're the ones
Speaker 2: that is like controlling the other side of the argument,
Speaker 2: which is the truth. But they're saying, oh, it's not heating,
Speaker 2: it's the climate change argument is so insane because they
Speaker 2: cause global warming with these heat waves that they create
Speaker 2: and then they say, oh, look heat waves even though
Speaker 2: the plant's not naturally heating, and sea level rises. Their
Speaker 2: total nonsense, like if you think about that, it's not
Speaker 2: even happening. But they use this narrative to push these
Speaker 2: other agendas and to say, oh, well, we need a
Speaker 2: geo engineer, we need to dim your sign, we need
Speaker 2: to put smart meters on your homes, we need to
Speaker 2: regulate your carbon emissions, and all this stuff. It's going
Speaker 2: to get really weird. There's supposed to climate change, global
Speaker 2: warming lockdowns coming in all this nonsense. So the WHO
Speaker 2: one program is the Department of Energy. There's also NAS
Speaker 2: and the CIA and all these other ongoing programs. But
Speaker 2: just really quick, the this Department of Energy program they
Speaker 2: have when they burn their coal in their smokestacks, they
Speaker 2: have this stuff called coal fly ash. It's this these
Speaker 2: this soot that's filtered, and this soot it's chocked full
Speaker 2: of these heavy metals that they can easily refine and
Speaker 2: get their aluminum nanoparticulates or their barium or their strontium
Speaker 2: or whatever. So the what are they spraying It's either
Speaker 2: refined or not non refined. Even coal fly ash. Why
Speaker 2: are they spraying that, Well, they don't want to play.
Speaker 2: They don't want to pay to dispose of it. You know,
Speaker 2: somehow it's like toxic waste, and you know they have
Speaker 2: to pay to dispose of it. But now they're being paid.
Speaker 2: They're being paid to put it in the atmosphere through
Speaker 2: the US MILTA industrial complex and the air Force smells whatnot.
Speaker 2: It's it's totally complex. So who what why you talked
Speaker 2: about that where I mean, there's power plants everywhere, so
Speaker 2: they have the structure.
Speaker 1: Now when it comes to the why, I've spoken with
Speaker 1: a few researchers that are on board with there is
Speaker 1: definitely something going on with our sun. There's a grand
Speaker 1: solar minimum and their spring to slow down the effects
Speaker 1: of what could cause a cataclysm on the planet. But
Speaker 1: it's still, you know, horrible for the planet what they're doing.
Speaker 1: But you're saying that all of this, like our Grand
Speaker 1: Solar minimum is misinformation.
Speaker 2: To me, it's it's totally fucking insulting bullshit, and it
Speaker 2: like doesn't it makes me kind of nauseous And in
Speaker 2: the end, it's like you got to go deep and
Speaker 2: like ask what resonates with you man? And that is
Speaker 2: like Q disinformation to get people not fighting someone blocking
Speaker 2: their fucking sun. Bro It's unreal and whatever. People can
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that people are not able to have
Speaker 2: their own opinions, you know, but they've been nefariously spraying
Speaker 2: I like bugs. If you watch my movie Franken's Guys.
Speaker 2: They even sprayed radioactive cabinum on the city of Saint
Speaker 2: Louis in the said seventies, even through station wagons and
Speaker 2: on rooftops and planes to see how many kids would
Speaker 2: die from it. You know, they've been experimenting on the
Speaker 2: population for a long time, the misinformation campaigns. So basically,
Speaker 2: here's what happened. The Black Panthers came out in the
Speaker 2: sixties and the US government didn't really have them on
Speaker 2: a leash, so they infiltrated them. They got them under control.
Speaker 2: That was kind of scary for them. They were like whoa, well, whoa,
Speaker 2: we almost lost control of our shit. So since then,
Speaker 2: they've been through autism and vaccines, they've been targeting the
Speaker 2: African American male, and the male in general has been
Speaker 2: like targeted in the United States from birth. They've fragmented
Speaker 2: the family unit through replacing the family unit with the television,
Speaker 2: and then the iPad is now in the laugh of
Speaker 2: the child. I mean it's transgrissing to that and eventually
Speaker 2: transhumanism and whatnot. I mean, that's just deeper down the
Speaker 2: rabbit hole. But we've basically got a system where the
Speaker 2: US military Industrial Complex, the CIA, whoever, these nefarious behind
Speaker 2: the scenes, the shadow government or whatever. Since the sixties,
Speaker 2: they've had everything on lock Man like, they confuse everybody.
Speaker 2: They have these misinformation campaigns mapped out by supercomputers to
Speaker 2: polarize every argument. Everything's polarized. So now you've got the
Speaker 2: activist community to be like, no, the kim trails are good.
Speaker 2: They're actually keeping us. They're making a good global warming
Speaker 2: for us to create a greenhouse effect because of the
Speaker 2: Grand Soul and momentum because of the sun and whatever. Dude,
Speaker 2: NASA is lying Nazis from Operation paper Clip. NASA is
Speaker 2: totally evil. They have the charge airsol release care program
Speaker 2: that's all kim trails. They have a patents that go
Speaker 2: back to the late seventies barium release rockets like all
Speaker 2: of like a lot of the kim trail programs are NASA.
Speaker 2: They publicly do it and they make noct tol lousen clouds.
Speaker 2: They pret spray barium aluminum strontium. Okay, these forests have
Speaker 2: been sprayed with aluminum oxide patented fire accelerants. They know
Speaker 2: how to make rain, period, they know how to make
Speaker 2: rain on forest fires. They know how to make rain
Speaker 2: on drought. They're not doing it okay. Like like the
Speaker 2: the agenda of control through the aerosol program, it includes
Speaker 2: weather and modification programs. If they were doing good things
Speaker 2: for the world, they would freaking make it rain on
Speaker 2: the forest fires instead of watching cities burn. They would
Speaker 2: make it rain on drought stricken communities instead of acting
Speaker 2: like they don't know how, you know. And at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, like the truth would really speak
Speaker 2: for everything, but no, no grand solar minimum in my
Speaker 2: humble opinion, and that it really spins out of control,
Speaker 2: you know, the efforts of the Truth, which is like
Speaker 2: they have to stop the spraying, you know, when I'm
Speaker 2: trying to rally my fellow human beings and they've infiltrated
Speaker 2: the Truth community even with this nonsense. It's it's kind
Speaker 2: of insulting and offensive and like like a lot of
Speaker 2: it is like actual like CIA agents honestly like spreading it.
Speaker 2: But some people don't know and they're just like they
Speaker 2: get the data where they getting the data from NASA,
Speaker 2: like don't, don't, don't feed me some shit and then
Speaker 2: and then quote NASA at the very end, because NASA
Speaker 2: has a budget of fifty two million dollars a day. People,
Speaker 2: fifty two million dollars a day, and all they do
Speaker 2: is live. Okay, it's all fabrications. It's dismantling, like like
Speaker 2: we're very powerful spiritual beings, believe it or not. And
Speaker 2: if we're believing fabrications and we're resonating falsehoods and we're
Speaker 2: like own lies since childhood, like NASA lies, like they
Speaker 2: just put this drone helicopter on Mars and elon Muskus,
Speaker 2: shooting convertibles into space and all of it's all of
Speaker 2: it is an insult to our humanity, right, But if
Speaker 2: we are believing in it, be lie being it, you know,
Speaker 2: like the breakdown of the words and all this witchcraft
Speaker 2: theory to it's because they know how powerful we are man,
Speaker 2: and if we start believing all these falsehoods, we lose
Speaker 2: our power. We don't even realize it. That's all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to agree with you on the whole
Speaker 1: massive thing. Now, there's so much that I want to
Speaker 1: get to and address. The next thing is as far
Speaker 1: as components of what they're spraying and the dangers and
Speaker 1: the effects.
Speaker 3: We've had.
Speaker 1: People talk about more gellons, nanotechnology, nanobots, all these terrifying
Speaker 1: things that they that are they're claiming are being sprayed
Speaker 1: in the air with this other these other ingredients that
Speaker 1: you spoke of. Now, I'm wondering if you have come
Speaker 1: across this in any of your research.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I'm the chemtrell dude. So like I
Speaker 2: hosted the third Global Chimtrell, I've hosted three major chimstrel
Speaker 2: conferences in a row. First in Vancouver, Canada, then in Portland, Oregon,
Speaker 2: and then in Tucson, Arizona. The one in Tucson, Arizona
Speaker 2: dismantled this big experiment that Bill Gates was going to
Speaker 2: do down there to dim the sun. It was a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Now they've moved to Sweden. They're
Speaker 2: going to do it next year. They're gonna dim the sun.
Speaker 2: They're gonna go, oh, look, we got the chemicals that work.
Speaker 2: We should do this everywhere to save us. You're welcome,
Speaker 2: you guys. We're just gonna, you know, send you the
Speaker 2: bill and not let you go outside for a few years.
Speaker 2: Your smart meterer will be watching you. A the constituents,
Speaker 2: the constituents of the spraying well, first, as they normalize it,
Speaker 2: they want us to think that they're going to experiment
Speaker 2: with diamond dust and mirrors. And then they have this
Speaker 2: idea of using different variable sizes of aluminum oxide nano
Speaker 2: particulate aluminum because it floats in the air really well
Speaker 2: and it reflects back the light and creates this albedo effect,
Speaker 2: like this cloud layer that they're really happy about. So
Speaker 2: when I had the third conference at Clifford, Carnacom come speak,
Speaker 2: he's like the Morgallons dude, the main Carnacom institute. He's
Speaker 2: like the guy who supposedly discovered mor gallons and all
Speaker 2: this stuff. And it's really deep, man, this is this
Speaker 2: like is it fear mongering? Is it real? People do
Speaker 2: have these afflictions. At first, they were called it was
Speaker 2: called a psychosis, and they were rejected at the doctor's
Speaker 2: office because in their medical books it was a psychosis
Speaker 2: that these red technology kind of and blue fibers coming
Speaker 2: out of their skin were actually through a mind psychosis,
Speaker 2: like you are crazy and making it happen. It was
Speaker 2: the official stance up until like two years ago. Now
Speaker 2: they say it's coming from limes disease and it's a
Speaker 2: symptom of that. So that the official narrative was already
Speaker 2: really weird, and and that is it makes me really
Speaker 2: question it. I I do believe it's real, and I'm
Speaker 2: and I and I have a huge heart, and for
Speaker 2: people that are going through it and suffering through it,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's sad. I also do believe that there
Speaker 2: is immense power in controlling narratives and making everybody freak
Speaker 2: the fuck out, like fear is so powerful and fear
Speaker 2: is palpable, and especially in the truth community where we're
Speaker 2: resonating with truth and we're really strong and powerful, if
Speaker 2: you dismantle our our progression and momentum with these really
Speaker 2: scary things like what we've all got nanobots and U said,
Speaker 2: we're all going to be turned into robots the flip
Speaker 2: of the switch once they turn on the five G
Speaker 2: which is already in place with satellites, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: all die. This lockdown, space fence, all this stuff. It
Speaker 2: dismantles our human spirit. We already love lost hope, we've
Speaker 2: already lost the battle, you know. And so the more gallons,
Speaker 2: I just you know, is there conclusive evidence to show
Speaker 2: that the afflictions that people are having is coming from
Speaker 2: the chemtrails? That's a really good question, and I'm very
Speaker 2: well researched on the topic, and I would I would say, maybe,
Speaker 2: you know, is it possibly coming from GMO foods? Fuck? Yeah, man,
Speaker 2: Like that's that's really well.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they they they're poisonous at all angles,
Speaker 1: so you can't really avoid any of it. Food, water,
Speaker 1: and air, you know, everything surrounding us we're being poisoned by.
Speaker 1: But you know, when it comes to more gillons and
Speaker 1: these maybe nano technologies, and you mentioned five G, that
Speaker 1: was that was a big thing for a while, saying
Speaker 1: that they're going to link up whatever the sprains are
Speaker 1: five G and flip the switch and we're all gonna die.
Speaker 1: Now do you think that there is any I don't know,
Speaker 1: connection to five G that would be possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all connected. And the nanotech it does exist,
Speaker 2: and they have nanotech like swarming technology here's the deal. Okay,
Speaker 2: the nefarious like behind the scenes sociopaths that are really
Speaker 2: controlling the shadow government that like tell the president what
Speaker 2: to do and all this stuff. Those the real people
Speaker 2: in charge, whether they the Rothschilds or whoever, or you know,
Speaker 2: evil aliens or whatever it may be. You know. And
Speaker 2: as far as like the aliens thing, I don't think
Speaker 2: that there's aliens from space. I think that they've been
Speaker 2: done here, been done. They're here, and maybe they're in
Speaker 2: the mountains and stuff, or their shape shifters if they're here.
Speaker 2: But the whole idea of like this disclosure of like,
Speaker 2: oh the aliens came from space and they got the
Speaker 2: cure for COVID, we love you or we don't. It's
Speaker 2: it's all nonsense. They're trying to dismantle us even further
Speaker 2: with their lies. If there was a disclosure, it wouldn't
Speaker 2: come from our shady government. Firstly. So the nanotech is
Speaker 2: is fascinating and it's real, but they have to slowly
Speaker 2: disclose these things to us. They can't just come out
Speaker 2: and assault us and flip the switch and kill us all.
Speaker 2: They could have done that a long time ago. They're
Speaker 2: slowly spoon feeding us the technology to adopt transhumanism and
Speaker 2: actually ask for it, you know, because there's some weird
Speaker 2: consent here. I don't know if it's the karma thing
Speaker 2: that they have to play by the rules or God's
Speaker 2: hand or just come and you know, Noah's arkasol or something,
Speaker 2: but there's something really true about this. The powers that
Speaker 2: be they have to slowly do what they're doing to us.
Speaker 2: So maybe there is nanotech slowly infiltrating, but they can't
Speaker 2: just slip the switch on tomorrow and kill us all
Speaker 2: because there's some rules. There's some rules here, you know,
Speaker 2: and they know the rules, which is really kind of
Speaker 2: not fair because we're playing the same game as them.
Speaker 2: But we're learning as we evolve, and I you know,
Speaker 2: that's a proponent. That is a component of it all.
Speaker 2: It's very much happening. But I think that so much
Speaker 2: of the conversation about it all is dismantling and it
Speaker 2: makes people just feel like that they've already lost. If
Speaker 2: we are up to speed on our minerals, for instance,
Speaker 2: this is empowering. Hey, this is the opposite of the
Speaker 2: disempowerment fear mongering stuff. If you're up to speed, on
Speaker 2: your minerals and you've got mineral supplements, or you're eating
Speaker 2: really well and you don't eat too much sugar. Like,
Speaker 2: here's an empowering fact. Every molecule of sugar that you ingest,
Speaker 2: it takes fifty four molecules of magnesium in your body
Speaker 2: to process one molecule of the sugar. So if we
Speaker 2: ingest sugar, which a lot of us do, we got
Speaker 2: to get some magnesium in our bodies through maybe leafy
Speaker 2: greams or other ways or supplements. But if we don't,
Speaker 2: we're deficient and magnesium. Okay, fifty four to one ratio,
Speaker 2: we've diplenished a lot of magnesium. So what happens when
Speaker 2: we're minerals deficient. We start trying to absorb things that
Speaker 2: might be minerals from our toxic environment, so the air,
Speaker 2: the water, the food. Maybe try to get better food,
Speaker 2: but you know, you can't necessarily sidestep the fluoride in
Speaker 2: a shower that you're having or whatever. And if your
Speaker 2: body is mineral deficient and it's absorbing things into your
Speaker 2: bones because it needs that magnesium, which helps the calcium
Speaker 2: build the bones and whatnot, it needs it, so it's
Speaker 2: absorbing radioactive strontium from the air or fluoride from the water,
Speaker 2: Otherwise it wouldn't be absorbing it. And it's absorbing these
Speaker 2: things in your bone, and it thinks it's calcium because
Speaker 2: it's similar to it on the periodic tables. Absorbing these
Speaker 2: things in your bones, you wouldn't even have these problems
Speaker 2: if you were just up to speed on your minerals.
Speaker 2: So instead of being a defeatist and being defeated by
Speaker 2: this Morgellons that's out there, you know, we're all going
Speaker 2: to become robots or whatever. We do have a choice,
Speaker 2: and we can be empowered through the truth and detox
Speaker 2: and you know, raise our vibration. I firmly believe that
Speaker 2: we're at a threshold in our evolution that we will
Speaker 2: evolve beyond, not necessarily beyond physicality, but beyond the evil
Speaker 2: physical shit that they're bombarding us with, like their weapons,
Speaker 2: will beyond a frequency that we will not even necessarily
Speaker 2: exist on. So it won't even they won't even impact
Speaker 2: us necessarily as long as we can continue to evolve
Speaker 2: and rise out of fear. You know, frequency control is
Speaker 2: really real. So what was I know you asked a
Speaker 2: different question, but I wanted to just address the nano
Speaker 2: box thing really quick.
Speaker 1: Well, we were talking about the nanotechnology, and you know,
Speaker 1: if you think that they are integrating.
Speaker 2: This with five G five G so yes, you know
Speaker 2: the five G cell towers, they create winds that make fires.
Speaker 2: They may even make these fires that are tearing up
Speaker 2: these towns. Like we've got an Internet of Things integrated
Speaker 2: system where smart meters are connected to cell towers that
Speaker 2: are being put up everywhere for the five G infrastructure.
Speaker 2: And if you've got an illuminized air, silized sky air,
Speaker 2: if you've got a metallic air, and you've got electricity
Speaker 2: being pulsed through the air that go into every single
Speaker 2: home because of smart meters, you've got this integrated system.
Speaker 2: And then you start putting metal in everyone's bodies and
Speaker 2: then you say, oh, come on, we got to give
Speaker 2: you an mRNA altering they call it, I mean in
Speaker 2: some publications they're calling it nanotech already, but slowly but sure,
Speaker 2: they're going to be putting nanotech in everyone's bodies and
Speaker 2: getting them too consent. Okay, this is like a consensual thing.
Speaker 2: This isn't just like we're going to attack you behind
Speaker 2: the scenes and flip the Suitch and everyone's dead. They
Speaker 2: have to, like, they want our consent. They want to
Speaker 2: slowly turn this into cyborgs, you know, and have us
Speaker 2: happy about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in twenty twenty, you was pretty obvious there was
Speaker 1: an all out psychological warfare campaign on us, the people.
Speaker 1: What do you think is behind the whole COVID vaccine agenda.
Speaker 1: I mean obviously it's connected to, you know, some kind
Speaker 1: of depopulation agenda and my personal belief What do you think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's it's it's very deep. The COVID thing
Speaker 2: is deep. And that's cool that we're not on a
Speaker 2: platform that's going to get see. I lost I lost
Speaker 2: my YouTube channel. Man, it was so heartbreaking. It was
Speaker 2: one two three strike sure out.
Speaker 3: All this on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was old videos and they said and because
Speaker 2: I talked about COVID, they said I was spreading medical
Speaker 2: misinformation and bam, all my stuff was gone. And it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean almost video. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so okay,
Speaker 2: COVID is nonsense. COVID has is a rebranding of the
Speaker 2: flu and of the seasonal cold and hardly much more.
Speaker 2: But also it is a smoke screen for the roll
Speaker 2: out of five G. I've learned, but not the way
Speaker 2: that they say. So when when it first came out,
Speaker 2: there was a misinformation flood, and if you research event
Speaker 2: to a one, the Bill Gates supercomputer thing with the
Speaker 2: virus that went around the world that they did right
Speaker 2: before COVID, this event too. One ran the whole thing
Speaker 2: through a supercomputer. What we're what we're experiencing and what
Speaker 2: happened in real life was plugged into the supercomputer, and
Speaker 2: that's where they kept like altering the story. And I
Speaker 2: swear they threw in at the very end the anal
Speaker 2: swabs just to see our reaction, to get more information,
Speaker 2: to put it in the computer to see how we
Speaker 2: reacted to that, because they're gonna push, push, push until
Speaker 2: we push back, and how are we going to push back?
Speaker 2: You know, the more data, the better for them. But
Speaker 2: so what they did when COVID first came out is
Speaker 2: there was a flood of viral mind you nonsensored conspiratorial
Speaker 2: stuff about five G is COVID. COVID is five G.
Speaker 2: And we were told that the towers were turned on
Speaker 2: in Wuhan and people were dropping dead. They were like
Speaker 2: having seizures on the street and people were saying it's
Speaker 2: from the oxygen leaving their lungs, from the five G
Speaker 2: being turned on, or whatever's with the scientific, supposed activist,
Speaker 2: supposed community was saying. And then also seventy seven five
Speaker 2: G towers were burned in the UK. They were attacked
Speaker 2: and burned. And I believe that this viral news was misinformation,
Speaker 2: disinformation campaign to make people making an association between COVID
Speaker 2: and five G look crazy, because it was a crazy
Speaker 2: assumption and it was viral and people were all spun
Speaker 2: out on it. But people did come to my website
Speaker 2: and start behind my stuff and asking for shirts. So
Speaker 2: I made shirt and sweatshirts and all this stuff because
Speaker 2: I was happy to progress. I was happy to advance
Speaker 2: the company. I didn't think it was going to go
Speaker 2: so fast, but people's paranoia helped. But it was viral stuff,
Speaker 2: and I was questioning, you know, why is this going viral?
Speaker 2: And it kind of got diffused, you know, and there
Speaker 2: was all this media on all the mainstream New York Times,
Speaker 2: Washington Post, USA today that crazy conspiracy theorists were actually
Speaker 2: like domestic terrorists for thinking this nonsense, and that COVID
Speaker 2: needs to be addressed and it has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with you know, and those crazy conspiracy theorists will later
Speaker 2: be anti vaxers and all this stuff, and don't believe them.
Speaker 2: You know. It's very it's psychological warfare. It's very smart. Well,
Speaker 2: guess what I make These phone bags. They're Faraday bags.
Speaker 2: They're silver lined. You drop your phone in these Faraday
Speaker 2: bags and you have no signal, no tracking, no GPS,
Speaker 2: no text messages, whatever. And people like the bags for privacy,
Speaker 2: especially for COVID tracking and what have you. So what
Speaker 2: happened was very fascinating. I had been selling these bags
Speaker 2: for a few years. Other companies have been selling these
Speaker 2: bags as well. Okay, I've found other companies selling my
Speaker 2: same bags that they were like twenty five bucks, and
Speaker 2: they were this silver fabric made overseas, and silver fabric
Speaker 2: is very popular in Korea and Japan and China for
Speaker 2: protecting pregnant women. So it's just like standard silver fabric
Speaker 2: that's really strong, that will kill any cell phone you
Speaker 2: put it in, doesn't work inside the Faraday bag. So,
Speaker 2: right when COVID happened, people started calling me in March
Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen, right was it March twenty nineteen no,
Speaker 2: it's twenty twenty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so is March twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: The dude time I froze. When COVID happened, My world froze.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's undreal. So you know so much, We've
Speaker 2: grown so much, and I've changed so much. I look
Speaker 2: back on who I was one year ago. I'm just like, man,
Speaker 2: they said two weeks the whole world changed, and here
Speaker 2: we are. So it was March twenty twenty, and customers
Speaker 2: are calling me really upset. The phone bags don't work.
Speaker 2: They worked before, they didn't get phone calls in front,
Speaker 2: inside the bag, and now they're getting calls right through
Speaker 2: the bag. And I'm like, that's really weird. What kind
Speaker 2: of phone do you have? Where do you live? A
Speaker 2: lot of people had iPhones, iPhone eights, stuff like that.
Speaker 2: My friend in La he has an iPhone eight. It's
Speaker 2: like the phone bag dotn't work, dude. This guy in Flint,
Speaker 2: Michigan had an older iPhone. The phone bag don't work, bro.
Speaker 2: People in Fort Lauderdale, Florida to your phone bag don't work.
Speaker 2: And it freaked me out, you know, and I didn't
Speaker 2: know what the heck was going on. And I contacted
Speaker 2: my supplier and I was like, what are we going
Speaker 2: to do about this? And they were like, well, we
Speaker 2: can make double layered bags if you want. So I
Speaker 2: doubled up the bags double layered before didn't have to
Speaker 2: do it, double the layered, send them to all the
Speaker 2: people that were pissed off, and they're happy customers. The
Speaker 2: bags now work, and now I just sell the double
Speaker 2: layered bags. So what happened there? Very curious what happened there.
Speaker 2: When you start to learn about five G and what
Speaker 2: it really is, it's not this two GPGG four G.
Speaker 2: It's a totally new technology to push around these radio
Speaker 2: waves that are so small that are measured in millimeters. Hey,
Speaker 2: a penny is one and a half millimeters wide. These
Speaker 2: frequencies are about that size. They're measured in millimeters between
Speaker 2: one and eight one and nine one in five millimeters,
Speaker 2: very small sized waves. Before that we're talking. Four G
Speaker 2: is measured in centimeters. Wi Fi is like thirty centimeters.
Speaker 2: An AM radio wave is one hundred feet, an FM
Speaker 2: radio wave is ten feet. All of this invisible smart
Speaker 2: technology is all radio waves. It's all actual light waves
Speaker 2: that we're carrying information on. And the smaller the wave.
Speaker 2: The more oscillations we can have per second, the faster
Speaker 2: it is, but the less distance it can travel. So
Speaker 2: these five G carrier waves that they're carrying all this
Speaker 2: data on nowadays and trying to set up this infrastructure
Speaker 2: for and have fast download speeds on these phones, these
Speaker 2: radio frequency waves cannot travel very far. They absorb in
Speaker 2: everything they hit. They can only go like five hundred
Speaker 2: feet according to the telecom agencies. Some places are saying
Speaker 2: like fifteen hundred feet, but they're not going far. They're
Speaker 2: not going miles, they're going feet, Okay, So to get
Speaker 2: the infrastructure totally dialed in to have these five G
Speaker 2: technology even work all right, and so right now it's
Speaker 2: like cities are only launching their five G you know,
Speaker 2: it's not like a nationwide thing. It's different telecom providers.
Speaker 2: But before it to work, these phones are actually pushing
Speaker 2: the signal that are helping push the signal a long.
Speaker 2: They're like a relay. So instead of before you like
Speaker 2: send your text out and it goes and finds the
Speaker 2: closest cell tower and sends it off into the world,
Speaker 2: now you're pushing the signal of everyone's signal another five
Speaker 2: hundred feet. So these phones are just cranking like up
Speaker 2: to like fifty times more radiation than before, all right,
Speaker 2: especially smartphones, especially in these in these cities like La
Speaker 2: where there are hot spots for COVID. So I'm a
Speaker 2: really I'm a stickler for correlation versus causation. I took
Speaker 2: like really intense statistics classes for my MBA, and it's like,
Speaker 2: I don't like saying, oh, that's causal when it's corollary.
Speaker 2: Like the Kimtrail documentaries that I first thought were okay,
Speaker 2: but then they really pushed a lot of people away.
Speaker 2: They're showing bushes that were like dead bushes, and they
Speaker 2: showed the Kim Trails, like obviously it's the Kim Trails
Speaker 2: causing the bushes to die, and that's a correlation. They're
Speaker 2: spraying and the bushes are dead. It's corollary. You know.
Speaker 2: I could also go out there and fart and say, oh,
Speaker 2: my fart killed it, you know, or the cal farts
Speaker 2: did that or whatever, like cow farts equal global warming.
Speaker 2: It's a correlation. It's not causal. We haven't we haven't
Speaker 2: proved it yet, but people don't understand correlation versus causation,
Speaker 2: you know, they get caught up in these things. So
Speaker 2: I'm not one to jump to conclusions. So I like to,
Speaker 2: you know, think things through. So friend back home where
Speaker 2: I grew up in Washington, DC area, he works for
Speaker 2: a government job, like one of these government contractors Booze
Speaker 2: Alan or North of Grumman or something. It's all back home,
Speaker 2: and he contacted me recently said, Hey, Matt, I saw
Speaker 2: you on Facebook talking about COVID. I just want you
Speaker 2: to know I got it and it's real. I go, okay,
Speaker 2: well tell me that your symptoms. I want to know.
Speaker 2: I'm an open mind and I want to know I haven't.
Speaker 2: I don't jump I have hypotheses on all sorts of things,
Speaker 2: and I don't jump to conclusions. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: sit here and say that the whole narrative on the
Speaker 2: Grand Solar Minimum is bullshit unless I've really done some
Speaker 2: deep investigation and my gut, you know all these things.
Speaker 2: But it's just like, come on, like, we can't polarize
Speaker 2: this argument of Kim Trail's. They're bad. Okay, they're nefarious.
Speaker 2: Let's get behind it and bring some scrutiny and transparency
Speaker 2: to something that's ongoing and bad and evil because ultimately
Speaker 2: want to dim our Son, not just control our weather
Speaker 2: and make hurricanes and trout and these horrible weather things.
Speaker 2: They want to spray us with chemicals, experiment on us,
Speaker 2: and dem our Son to control that. That's like totally
Speaker 2: evil shit. So I asked my friend what happened? What
Speaker 2: were your symptoms? And he goes, well, you know what,
Speaker 2: now that you ask is very funny. I didn't have
Speaker 2: typical virus symptoms. I didn't have a fever, I didn't
Speaker 2: get sick like that or stomach ache or throw up
Speaker 2: or anything. But what happened was is I lost my
Speaker 2: sense of taste and I just was confused, like I
Speaker 2: couldn't think clearly for a couple of weeks. So I
Speaker 2: didn't go to work and I was like anything else,
Speaker 2: It's like no, And I go, okay, can I ask
Speaker 2: you a question? What kind of phone do you have?
Speaker 2: And he goes, what do you mean like a smartphone?
Speaker 2: And I was like yeah, yeah, he's well, me and
Speaker 2: my wife just got the new iPhone, you know, iPhone
Speaker 2: eleven MAXs or whatever. And I'm like, well, what did
Speaker 2: you have before that? And he goes, well, not an iPhone.
Speaker 2: We had this droid or whatever, And I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: would you ever consider that loss of taste and brain
Speaker 2: fog are radiation sickness symptoms, and that after a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks of being exposed to the source of the radiation,
Speaker 2: your body adjusts, because that's what happens. I read this
Speaker 2: book by Arthur Furstenberg called The Invisible Rainbow, and it's
Speaker 2: theorizing exactly this, that our bodies are just adjusting to
Speaker 2: a crank an uptick in the radiation, and that's what
Speaker 2: the Spanish flu was, and that's what this whole COVID
Speaker 2: thing is and what have you. But at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, like the death toll didn't rise compared
Speaker 2: to last year, like the COVID is, it's pretty much nonsense.
Speaker 2: It's a rebranding of the flu, it's a rebranding of
Speaker 2: the cold. But also I think it's a smoke screen
Speaker 2: for the launch of five G because all these people
Speaker 2: would be questioning why they're feeling sick because they got
Speaker 2: these new phones that are on this new network, or
Speaker 2: even why their iPhone eight is just emitting all this
Speaker 2: more radiation they're getting sick off of it because the
Speaker 2: five G infrastructure is a totally new tech and to
Speaker 2: get your phone and the phones around you on this
Speaker 2: new tech. It's totally different than the tech that we're
Speaker 2: used to. So it's amitting way more radiation which is
Speaker 2: absorbing into our body, bation in the size of the
Speaker 2: carrier wave two, and it may even cause massive birth
Speaker 2: problems in the future. I think that five G, along
Speaker 2: with all the agendas at once, fluoride energy of mo
Speaker 2: foods and whatnot, especially the covidvexs, mean I do think
Speaker 2: that it's a depopulation agenda. Children of Men. If you
Speaker 2: haven't seen Children of Men or Handmaid's Tale, the movie
Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety, or even Demolition Man or Total Recall
Speaker 2: nineteen nineteen films, these are predictive programming, propaganda machine kind
Speaker 2: of things. Like Arnold Schwarzeneger in the movie Total Recall,
Speaker 2: he didn't go to Mars. He got a chip in
Speaker 2: his head. Okay, and there's crazy terrorism and all these
Speaker 2: fear tactics and all this whatnot, but at the end
Speaker 2: he didn't go. He just got to chip in his head. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody really is going to go to Mars.
Speaker 2: And I think Elon Musk and these predators are gonna
Speaker 2: put ships in people's heads with memories of his Mars
Speaker 2: journeys to push this transhumanism agenda through this excitement of
Speaker 2: space exploration through NASA, who's totally evil. So don't go
Speaker 2: quoting NASA anymore on me and trying to say this
Speaker 2: is fact people. So yeah, and then what else with COVID.
Speaker 2: So lastly, these masks, these blue masks that everyone's wearing,
Speaker 2: these are one time use medical masks, one time used
Speaker 2: medical masks. Whether is the membrane that we're breathing through.
Speaker 2: You can look this up. Poly tetra floral ethylene PTFE.
Speaker 2: You can just type into Google TFE masks and they'll
Speaker 2: show you pictures of these masks they're handing you at
Speaker 2: the grocery store. Okay, you try to walk into a
Speaker 2: grocery store. I know a lot of that's changing now,
Speaker 2: which is very fascinating, which I want to talk about. Okay,
Speaker 2: really quick. What's unreal right now is depending on where
Speaker 2: you are, what city, what county, what state, what country,
Speaker 2: what part of the world. If you're in London or
Speaker 2: you're in New York, it's a little different. The rules
Speaker 2: that they're subjecting you to the freedoms that they're taking away.
Speaker 2: So if humanity was going to rise up and be like,
Speaker 2: fuck this, we're not wearing our masks, well, it's like
Speaker 2: some of us aren't anymore. Some of us are. So
Speaker 2: it's like the New World Order that's trying to mess
Speaker 2: with humanity right now. They're so smart and strategic that
Speaker 2: we don't even if we were gonna rise up and
Speaker 2: fight right now, it would be confusing. You know. We
Speaker 2: can't all come together on one thing because they're giving
Speaker 2: us writes back and taking them away at the same time.
Speaker 2: It's so tactical and strategic, and it's a war against us,
Speaker 2: all right. So the COVID thing, the polytetrafluoro ethylene, it's teflon.
Speaker 2: We're breathing through teflon membranes, which is synthetic fluoride, all right.
Speaker 2: And this is a one time used medical mask that
Speaker 2: it is supposed to be used one time while you're
Speaker 2: doing surgery, and so you don't like sneeze inside of
Speaker 2: an open body, you know, And that has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with viruses. And it's these things off gas chemicals.
Speaker 2: They're from freaking China. They're coming they're non regulated they're
Speaker 2: handing you a medical mask. As you walk into a
Speaker 2: grocery store underneath the sign that says entrance, which I
Speaker 2: think is very fascinating, you're like entrance, Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 2: You put on a you huffed fluoride as you walk in.
Speaker 2: And what's critical to know is the connection between fluoride
Speaker 2: and aluminum because all these truths. Aluminum basically crosses all
Speaker 2: these different truths and connects all these different truths together,
Speaker 2: whether it be vaccines, GMO foods, fluorides, fluoride, chim trails,
Speaker 2: there's this connection with it all. And what happens when
Speaker 2: you make aluminum, when you smelt aluminum in the production
Speaker 2: of aluminum chemical toxic chemical byproduct that comes off of
Speaker 2: aluminium is fluoride. It was bonded to aluminum chemically when
Speaker 2: it was mined, all right, But to make aluminum cans
Speaker 2: and whatnot, you smelt it and these chemicals melt off.
Speaker 2: One of them's fluoride. They decided to take toxic element
Speaker 2: and put it in toothpaste and drinking water. But you know,
Speaker 2: some people have rally together and got it out of
Speaker 2: they're drinking water, and that communities know that it's nonsense.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't bond to your teeth as it goes
Speaker 2: by you any ways, as you drink it is toxic stuff,
Speaker 2: you know. But what fluoride does when it gets in
Speaker 2: your body through this huffing up your mask or the
Speaker 2: drinking water or whatever is, it can bypass your blood
Speaker 2: brain barrier and go into your brain. But the thing
Speaker 2: is it likes to bond to aluminum that you've gotten
Speaker 2: in your system from vaccines, flu vaccine, whatever it may be,
Speaker 2: or the toxic deodorant or sunscreen or whatever, or the
Speaker 2: freaking Kim trails, which minds you. These are patented fire
Speaker 2: accelerants being sprayed on our forests that disrupt the tree's
Speaker 2: ability to take water. And then instead of quelling fires,
Speaker 2: they're literally making windstorms on these fires after having sprayed
Speaker 2: fire accelerants on them, and they're saying, oh, global warming,
Speaker 2: we might have to spray the scar with aluminum. So
Speaker 2: it's total nonsense, a Galien dialectic backwards thinking, enslavement of humanity. Nonsense.
Speaker 1: Well, it seems like the whole COVID thing is kind
Speaker 1: of falling apart from him, especially lately, you know, like
Speaker 1: you said, we have half the country wearing masks aft
Speaker 1: the country not wearing masks. Yeah, it's misinformation. Everybody's confused
Speaker 1: about it. But it also kind of seems like a
Speaker 1: lot of people are seeing through the bulls and really
Speaker 1: not falling forward anymore, and they're going to try and
Speaker 1: maybe go with something else. Climate change seems like a
Speaker 1: good plan. Maybe you know, let's bring out little Greta
Speaker 1: and say that what the world's going to end because
Speaker 1: of our emissions?
Speaker 2: You know. Well, what's funny is Greta is Swedish and
Speaker 2: now they're pushing this experiment and outs in Sweden. So
Speaker 2: they're going to do the sky Demi experiment in northern
Speaker 2: Sweden with Greta there at the reins being like, yeah,
Speaker 2: dim the sun, we gotta block the sky. Whatever. But
Speaker 2: just just to finish my thought, the fluori mixes with
Speaker 2: the aluminum, It pulls it in your brain and then
Speaker 2: you get dimension Alzheimer's and stuff. Is this toxic combination
Speaker 2: mixes emf from the five G and from the swamp
Speaker 2: of emf rent. It messes with your blood brain barrier,
Speaker 2: makes it permeable. And if you've got the toxins like
Speaker 2: illuminum fluorid in your body, it goes past your blood
Speaker 2: brain barrier that's supposed to protect you from these toxins.
Speaker 2: So yeah, how is Denver with the whole mass thing?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's not as it's not as bad
Speaker 3: as I thought.
Speaker 1: Once the mandate dropped. It took about maybe two or
Speaker 1: three weeks before people, I guess, felt comfortable enough to
Speaker 1: go out without masks. Every once in a while, I'll
Speaker 1: still see a couple of people, you know, looking looking
Speaker 1: afraid with their mask on. But it's really not that
Speaker 1: bad right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really fascinating. Where I'm at in Nashalan, Oregon.
Speaker 2: About a week ago they said you can take off
Speaker 2: your masks anywhere inside and it's over, basically. And it
Speaker 2: took a few days and now basically everybody inside is
Speaker 2: not wearing a mask, which is amazing. So now the
Speaker 2: pressure's off, and what do we have to fight? You know,
Speaker 2: like we're not like like how could I get traction
Speaker 2: out there? Being like fuck the delta variant, don't wear
Speaker 2: a mask when and if it comes, So it's hard.
Speaker 2: But then come to find out London is locked down,
Speaker 2: right UK, The whole country, the whole freaking like island
Speaker 2: is locked down, and they have to wear masks, and
Speaker 2: there's this delta variant, and they're they're like coming to
Speaker 2: people's houses and checking to see if they have left
Speaker 2: to go on vacations. If they're suspected to go on vacations,
Speaker 2: they're not allowed to leave all these things. So there
Speaker 2: needs to be a stand for humanity over there. But
Speaker 2: how if we can't even I can't fly there, I
Speaker 2: can't go there. I can't go to Sweden to protest
Speaker 2: that experiment either. I can't, you know, because I'm on
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not gonna get the vaccine. So how
Speaker 2: to like have a wave of protest for humanity if
Speaker 2: we're not under the same oppression. It's fascinating and we'll
Speaker 2: find our way. And I'm really curious to see what's next.
Speaker 2: But I mean, what do you think's next? What do
Speaker 2: you think this winter holds and this.
Speaker 1: I think that they're going to start pushing the whole
Speaker 1: climate change agenda a lot more. I think that that's
Speaker 1: the only card they have besides bringing back a new
Speaker 1: variant of COVID and some more fear monitoring with that.
Speaker 1: But I don't see people, especially in the United States,
Speaker 1: you know, just falling for that as much as they
Speaker 1: used to do anymore, and I don't see it gaining
Speaker 1: much traction, but it will have to see. You know,
Speaker 1: it could be aliens. It could be a fake alien invasion.
Speaker 1: With all the talk there heaven about UFOs in the mainstream,
Speaker 1: you never know.
Speaker 2: I hope they do the fake alien invasion, and I
Speaker 2: hope they I hope they screwed it up more bad.
Speaker 2: I hope they screwed up so bad that everyone wakes up.
Speaker 2: That'd be so cool. What was really fascinating to me
Speaker 2: is right when COVID happened, and they've said two weeks
Speaker 2: we're going to do a lockdown, and it was pretty
Speaker 2: much like it first happened in California, because there's like
Speaker 2: a cruise ship over there, and I lived in California,
Speaker 2: so it was like they first started locking down like
Speaker 2: San Francisco and stuff, and then it the whole country
Speaker 2: was basically on a two week lockdown come like March
Speaker 2: or something. And at that time mid March or something
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty. And at that time I noticed in
Speaker 2: my sky. I lived in Santa Rosa at the time, California,
Speaker 2: in northern California, just north of San Francisco where we
Speaker 2: get a lot of air traffic to SFO San Francisco
Speaker 2: Airport and Santa Rosa has an airport. I noticed the
Speaker 2: air traffic like drops significantly because you know, I guess
Speaker 2: everyone was on a lockdown. But the Kim trails just stopped.
Speaker 2: And after a couple of days, we had these deep,
Speaker 2: dark cobalt blue skies, big white fluffy clouds, and I
Speaker 2: mean I was literally in awe at the beauty of this,
Speaker 2: of the clouds that we hadn't seen for I mean years,
Speaker 2: because they're always manipulating it. You know, maybe we'll see
Speaker 2: a nice day for a couple of days. But that's
Speaker 2: another thing for people that are waking up, instead of
Speaker 2: bringing all the attention to kim trails in the sky,
Speaker 2: bringing the people's attention to the beautiful days whereas there's
Speaker 2: where there's nothing going on, no air traffic, beautiful blue skies,
Speaker 2: maybe just big white fluffy clouds or no clouds, and
Speaker 2: just be like, hey, friend, family, neighbor, there's no Kim
Speaker 2: trails today, there's no air traffic, and if there is,
Speaker 2: there's no line coming out of the back of that
Speaker 2: jet because they're not up to their agenda and the
Speaker 2: sky on that day. And if you can start to
Speaker 2: wake up that they're not doing it on days, then
Speaker 2: on the days that they are doing it's like, oh man,
Speaker 2: they're totally doing it today. I can't believe I never noticed.
Speaker 2: It's you know, as a side note, but really important.
Speaker 2: They stop spraying, they stopped the geoengineering, they stopped the
Speaker 2: kim trails for like a month when COVID first happened,
Speaker 2: and everyone was messaging me on Facebook and even texting
Speaker 2: me and like, oh my god, Matt, I haven't seen
Speaker 2: such beautiful clouds. And they're all over the world almost
Speaker 2: I haven't seen such beautiful clouds, Matt. And I was like,
Speaker 2: oh wow there. And people are asking me, well, are
Speaker 2: the pilots having to do lockdown? And I was like,
Speaker 2: I mean, like I doubt it, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: And I'm under the firm assumption that it's a lot
Speaker 2: of drones nowadays. I mean some of the planes are
Speaker 2: even really small and they're just loaded up with the
Speaker 2: aerosols and it's just drones. They're going to zig zag
Speaker 2: over you know. There's bases of like forty miles in
Speaker 2: each direction, not towards the airports where I live on
Speaker 2: the opposite side of the valley. There's bass these zigzag
Speaker 2: going into from A to B, which is just like
Speaker 2: these hidden bases somewhere. But either way, they stopped spraying
Speaker 2: for all this time, and the weather was normal, all right,
Speaker 2: and I swear that they were they pushed this like
Speaker 2: rewilding thing. Then oh there's raccoons and deer in the
Speaker 2: streets of New York and how beautiful. And the global
Speaker 2: pollution is stopped, and you can see the lights in
Speaker 2: India and then fireflames are back out. And they said
Speaker 2: that global warming and climate change like paused during that
Speaker 2: that interim time frame where we were locked inside. Dude,
Speaker 2: if we're locked inside, we're all using electricity, we're greenhouse gas,
Speaker 2: and the ship out of everywhere. I don't buy that,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't buy that. Like we just we
Speaker 2: just like started using a bunch of coal instead of
Speaker 2: driving around as much. I don't like. I like what
Speaker 2: what what happened was is they stopped spraying, which the
Speaker 2: spraying of kim trails is what messes with the global warming.
Speaker 2: It causes global warming. They're creating heat waves, They're creating
Speaker 2: this fake greenhouse effect like the Grand Soular minimum think
Speaker 2: people think they're doing there. It is heating the planet.
Speaker 2: Even right after nine to eleven when all the planes
Speaker 2: got frozen, the temperature chilled out. You know, the global
Speaker 2: warming is real from all the ongoing programs everywhere. That's
Speaker 2: how they're doing it. So by not doing geoengineering for
Speaker 2: like a month, they can use that now. And they're
Speaker 2: gonna use that, and they're gonna say, well, remember when
Speaker 2: everyone got locked inside, global warming stopped, you know, And
Speaker 2: so now they're gonna be like, but no, but no,
Speaker 2: you guys stopped springing, you stopped warming the planet with
Speaker 2: your geoengineer. They're not gonna tell us that, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. They're gonna say, oh, we have this
Speaker 2: solution for now. It's climate change lockdowns, you guys. And
Speaker 2: people will be so used to that word lockdown. I
Speaker 2: think it was like, actually the new the big word
Speaker 2: of last year, like the Webster's word of the year
Speaker 2: was lockdowns, which is horrible. But I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 2: It is my retort to what.
Speaker 3: You said, Right, Yeah, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't either, But we got a lot going.
Speaker 3: On right now.
Speaker 1: We live in very interesting, terrifying, fascinating times, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot to pay attention to.
Speaker 3: Matt.
Speaker 1: We just got a few minutes left. I'd love for
Speaker 1: you to talk. Maybe give us a little teaser about
Speaker 1: Franken's guys too, and tell us some about your i
Speaker 1: MS shielded protection clothing as well.
Speaker 2: So Franken's guys too. I can't wait for it to
Speaker 2: come out. I hope that it's sooner rather than later.
Speaker 2: But also it's I'm documenting what we're going through right now,
Speaker 2: which is like, if you know about Lytton, BC, this
Speaker 2: small town of two hundred and fifty people with a
Speaker 2: whistleblower in it, just burned up overnight a couple of
Speaker 2: nights ago, which I think is part of this chim
Speaker 2: trel agenda with the smart meters and the smart tech
Speaker 2: and all this stuff. The story's unfolding right before our eyes.
Speaker 2: And possibly we'll have climate change lockdowns coming soon and
Speaker 2: that'll be in the film. But definitely in the film.
Speaker 2: Are these fires that just whip through my town? In Ashland, Oregon,
Speaker 2: twenty three hundred low income homes were turned to dust
Speaker 2: overnight on September ninth or something. Last year there was
Speaker 2: arsons that lit all these fires and there's crazy geo
Speaker 2: engineered wins. But the global media says that it's climate
Speaker 2: change and that we need to do something about it,
Speaker 2: which is going to end up being like lockdowns and
Speaker 2: geo engineering and all that nonsense. So that's why the
Speaker 2: movies titled for Frankinskuys Too climate chains like shackles, because
Speaker 2: they're creating this Hegelian dialectic problem reaction scenario, problem reaction
Speaker 2: solution scenario where they're pushing proposing to us the solution,
Speaker 2: which is the problem that they've created already and we
Speaker 2: don't even know it, and it's just blindsiding of humanity.
Speaker 2: So the movies document this as we go through it,
Speaker 2: and I hope that we can rally together and in
Speaker 2: the movie be the change that we need to be
Speaker 2: to postpone this while the world wakes up because accepting
Speaker 2: this it's so polarized and it's so much politicized too. Oh,
Speaker 2: if you're a Trump person, you're x y Z. But
Speaker 2: if you're a Blue you know, if you're not a
Speaker 2: Trump person, you believe in this, which is now climate
Speaker 2: change and global warming and even doing something about global
Speaker 2: warming which is that scares the crap out of me.
Speaker 2: But it's coming together. The movie is going to be amazing.
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Speaker 1: Awesome Matt, thank you so much and definitely love to
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Speaker 3: Awesome, we'll have tonight.
Speaker 1: I don't want to welcome Aaron Montgomery. She works as
Speaker 1: a marriage counselor and family counselor by day and does healings, readings,
Speaker 1: and shamanic energy work after hours. Following in the footsteps
Speaker 1: of Von Smith and others, she is actively working towards
Speaker 1: being able to help other alien contact these come to
Speaker 1: terms with and perhaps learn from their unique experiences.
Speaker 3: Erin welcome. How you doing tonight, Hi, I'm doing good.
Speaker 4: I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. I've been looking
Speaker 1: forward to this. I think some of the most important
Speaker 1: evidence that we can have in neufology and the paranormal
Speaker 1: right now is testimony of contact these and experience servers
Speaker 1: like yourself and you know, kind of bringing this together
Speaker 1: with the notes nuts and bolts researchers in the consciousness community,
Speaker 1: and I think we could probably learn a whole lot
Speaker 1: more about this phenomenon if we could bring those fields
Speaker 1: together along with you know, the evidence and testimony of
Speaker 1: people like yourself. And You've been a very long time
Speaker 1: experience er, right since childhood.
Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. My earliest memory is from about
Speaker 4: four years old.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I've been an experience for a long time,
Speaker 4: and I agree with you. I think that we're at
Speaker 4: a point in time where, you know, we've got people
Speaker 4: seeing things, experiencing things, then we've got the research going
Speaker 4: on with the consciousness level, and then you've got these
Speaker 4: people that have direct, direct experiences that speak to these
Speaker 4: things that are being found out in the scientific research.
Speaker 4: And putting it all together into one place and one
Speaker 4: bigger level of understanding is really going to push this
Speaker 4: all forward and help people understand exactly what's going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the helping people understand part is one of
Speaker 1: the biggest things for me, because I've been looking in
Speaker 1: this for years. I've had a couple of experiences myself,
Speaker 1: and I'm nowhere near understanding any of it. I know,
Speaker 1: I feel like I understand a little bit more with
Speaker 1: them when I first got into it.
Speaker 3: But as far as the bigger picture, I have no
Speaker 3: idea what's going on.
Speaker 1: But I'd love to hear about some of your earliest experiences.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could start with your some of your first
Speaker 1: experiences and tell us about what they were like.
Speaker 4: Maybe sure, and going along with the idea of expanded
Speaker 4: consciousness and things like this, where you are outside of time.
Speaker 4: The experiencer, well, let's say the contact these experiences instead
Speaker 4: of saying experiencers experiences. I mean, it just gets the
Speaker 4: word gets redneant. But it is outside of time. I
Speaker 4: do not experience these things in a linear fashion. Yes,
Speaker 4: my first memory is from four years old, but I
Speaker 4: didn't remember that until recently, and so flashes and understandings
Speaker 4: and things happen now, but it was in the past.
Speaker 4: It gets it gets really complex and difficult to explain
Speaker 4: on a linear you know, and on a linear timeline. However, Yes,
Speaker 4: my first memory is from about four years old. I
Speaker 4: was in a room that was very very white, very sterile.
Speaker 4: There was a round doorway to my right. I was
Speaker 4: seated on the floor with several other children, and we
Speaker 4: were manipulating blocks almost like playing catch, but very slowly
Speaker 4: and using our mind. And the next thing I recall
Speaker 4: is a small gray type being passing by the doorway
Speaker 4: with another little boy who like indicated, hey, I know you,
Speaker 4: and then he kept on kept on walking with the
Speaker 4: gray and that is like a thirty second little burst
Speaker 4: of memory. Yeah, that's that's the earliest experience.
Speaker 3: That I hat. That's really interesting.
Speaker 1: I've had a few contact thesent experiencers that have had
Speaker 1: similar experiences in childhood to where they're in like this
Speaker 1: classroom or learning type environment where they're being shown blocks
Speaker 1: or images or certain screens of you know, films, even
Speaker 1: just kind of like a classroom type environment, which I
Speaker 1: find very interesting. Do you have any other memories going
Speaker 1: back that you know where you were brought to the
Speaker 1: same environment.
Speaker 4: I do have memories of being in these learning environments,
Speaker 4: not necessarily in that white room, but in more of
Speaker 4: a gymnasium type of room, and the details are like
Speaker 4: really specific as I recall them in a regression and
Speaker 4: so it's pretty fresh in my mind. But it was
Speaker 4: a very large room. The floors were dark, like almost
Speaker 4: like a black color. The room itself was like a
Speaker 4: geodesic dome, you know, very high ceiling, very rounded, and
Speaker 4: the there were like support like a support system around
Speaker 4: this this dome that was hexagonal in shape, so it
Speaker 4: looked almost like a like a honeycomb pattern across the ceiling.
Speaker 4: The pipes that were securing this were red and blue,
Speaker 4: and I could see the stars on the other side.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like a real vivid memory of what
Speaker 4: this room looks like. And there were several podiums around
Speaker 4: the room, and behind the podium was a being, and
Speaker 4: in front of the podium was a child. And I
Speaker 4: was taken up to one of these podiums, and this
Speaker 4: is where I was taught how to manipulate gravity and
Speaker 4: was able to, you know, rise up and kind of
Speaker 4: fly around the room. I remember the I was working with,
Speaker 4: who was a very tall being. He like maybe like
Speaker 4: seven feet tall something like that, very tall. His skin
Speaker 4: if you've seen Et at the point where he gets sick,
Speaker 4: and his skin is that modeled white, pinkish color, That's
Speaker 4: what this guy looked like. His face was not like
Speaker 4: a typical gray shaped face. It was more flat and
Speaker 4: elongated and had very round eyes, kind of high up.
Speaker 4: I call him a tall white being. I don't know
Speaker 4: what anybody else would call this being, but in my head,
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, maybe this is a tall white and
Speaker 4: he had on a jumpsuit, but he's the one that
Speaker 4: was teaching me. And I remember him getting irritated with
Speaker 4: me because I was having too much fun and I
Speaker 4: didn't want to settle back down. He's like, come on,
Speaker 4: you got you gotta land and we've got other things
Speaker 4: to do. And it was at that point in time
Speaker 4: that he taught me about the energy centers in the body,
Speaker 4: like what we would call chakras. One of the fascinating
Speaker 4: things is I think I was about ten years old,
Speaker 4: ten to eleven at the point that this happened. And
Speaker 4: I remember consciously at that age, because I did recall
Speaker 4: this in a regression, but consciously at the age around
Speaker 4: ten or eleven, being in elementary school with my friends
Speaker 4: outside saying hey, pick me up, you know, and one
Speaker 4: of my friends would pick me up and put me
Speaker 4: back down, and then I would shift my weight a
Speaker 4: little bit and say, okay, pick me up again, and
Speaker 4: they couldn't do it, and I would let it go
Speaker 4: and say all right, pick me up again, and they
Speaker 4: could pick me up, put me down and I'd shift
Speaker 4: just a little bit, just like a little subtle movement
Speaker 4: in my mind and with my body, and then they
Speaker 4: couldn't do it. So it makes me wonder was I
Speaker 4: retaining that lesson of manipulating gravity.
Speaker 1: I was just about to ask you if you know
Speaker 1: what type of abilities did you have while you were
Speaker 1: having these experiences, and did you take these with you
Speaker 1: and have any extra experiences with these abilities in your
Speaker 1: normal living life.
Speaker 4: That's the only one that I am aware that I
Speaker 4: was able to bring back into this reality. There's times
Speaker 4: where I've thought I should be able to move objects,
Speaker 4: and I've tried, you know, sitting there staring at things
Speaker 4: and things moving, and I'm like, this is really frustrating.
Speaker 4: I feel like I should be able to do this,
Speaker 4: and the end time and time again, I've tried, and
Speaker 4: I never can. The things that I have been able
Speaker 4: to retain is communications, the telepathy, especially with other experiencers.
Speaker 4: Just empathy. I don't know if that is because of
Speaker 4: contact or if it's just part and parcel to who
Speaker 4: I am. Just being able to feel people's emotions, physical
Speaker 4: pains and all of this, all of these things, but
Speaker 4: that in particular, you know, just makes me think. Okay,
Speaker 4: so I was taught something on ship and then recalled
Speaker 4: it later and was able to use it, and so yeah,
Speaker 4: I find it fascinating that I was able to do that.
Speaker 1: That is, and you described one of the types of
Speaker 1: beings that you had experiences with. What other types of
Speaker 1: beings you remember during you know, that time period in
Speaker 1: this learning environment.
Speaker 4: Honestly, he's the only one that I recall. And then
Speaker 4: when I was four and on the floor playing with
Speaker 4: the blocks, I don't remember any beings except for the
Speaker 4: one that walked by, who was more of the you know,
Speaker 4: three and a half foot gray type being with the
Speaker 4: big eyes and the elongated head. In the learning environment.
Speaker 4: That's it. That's all I got now.
Speaker 1: Growing up, you also had a mix of paranormal experiences
Speaker 1: as well, right, I have.
Speaker 4: I've had very strange paranormal experiences my whole life. Hearing
Speaker 4: my name being called, having a very odd moment of
Speaker 4: added time, learning how to astral travel, you know, ghostly experiences, hauntings,
Speaker 4: all sorts of things have happened around me. And it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter where I'm at, you know, it just seems
Speaker 4: to be. You know, people say, are you going to
Speaker 4: a haunted home. No, I think that I'm the one
Speaker 4: that's haunted or something. You know, It's just that it
Speaker 4: always happens around me. And I know that it is
Speaker 4: very common for experiencers to have these these things happen
Speaker 4: around them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I think it's very interesting that
Speaker 1: there's this connection between the paranormal and these UFO experiences
Speaker 1: and contact experiences and people that experienced them. I was
Speaker 1: talking with somebody the other day that you could have
Speaker 1: someone that's seeing us an apparition right in front of
Speaker 1: them or a UFO and a person that never has
Speaker 1: any of these types of experience is standing right next
Speaker 1: to them and they don't see anything, they don't know
Speaker 1: what they're talking about. I've heard of things like this
Speaker 1: all the time, and I've even experienced things like this.
Speaker 1: Uh so, what do you think is happening there? Why
Speaker 1: do you think some people are just maybe in tuned
Speaker 1: to different frequencies? What do you think I think that
Speaker 1: has a lot to do with it.
Speaker 4: I think that when we are exposed to these experiences
Speaker 4: that are going to expand the consciousness, whether it's like
Speaker 4: a near death experience, whether it is like even a
Speaker 4: traumatic event, that will shift how we perceive the world
Speaker 4: around us or each contact. Any of these things kind
Speaker 4: of expand our senses in a way. We're no longer
Speaker 4: just using the natural five senses because you know, and
Speaker 4: I added trauma in there, because there are many many
Speaker 4: people that I have met who have had traumatic experience
Speaker 4: and not necessarily you know, each contact, but they have
Speaker 4: developed like recognition or empathy, and they are very easy
Speaker 4: to judge a room like, Okay, somebody in here is angry,
Speaker 4: and that's they have to if they have trauma, like
Speaker 4: say from like a domestic violence experience or something like that,
Speaker 4: or if they were abused as children, Being able to
Speaker 4: judge the emotions in a room just upon entering is
Speaker 4: going to be a safety mechanism. I just I find
Speaker 4: it fascinating that these things develop through these modes of
Speaker 4: contact or you know, whatever it is, with these expanded
Speaker 4: moments of experience. I guess you know, there's things outside
Speaker 4: the norm and all, and we've all of a sudden
Speaker 4: adapted to be able to perceive these things. And I
Speaker 4: think that is why we can perceive them. And somebody
Speaker 4: who has not had anything like this happened, cannot I
Speaker 4: have been in a room with people that have some
Speaker 4: abilities but haven't developed them enough. They have some perception
Speaker 4: and be able to describe what I'm experiencing and have
Speaker 4: them describe what they are feeling in the moment and
Speaker 4: be able to add it to Like I remember, I
Speaker 4: was with a friend who had lost somebody recently and
Speaker 4: I said, Okay, I just felt somebody enter the room.
Speaker 4: I can I can feel their presence. And my friend said, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: my ears just kind of popped, like the pressure changed
Speaker 4: in the room. I said, there you go. That you
Speaker 4: that was your indication, Yes, that that happened, there was
Speaker 4: a shift in here and you perceived it. And being
Speaker 4: able to say okay, I feel that too, and then
Speaker 4: being able to they can hone in on that, and
Speaker 4: that starts that expansion understanding okay, there's something else here,
Speaker 4: what else do I feel? And just taking that moment
Speaker 4: and diving into it. It's it's pretty special, you know,
Speaker 4: in that in that moment for those who are not
Speaker 4: used to being able to perceive these things.
Speaker 1: Right, and I'm sure like even for you that in
Speaker 1: the beginning, these experiences can be traumatic for people if
Speaker 1: they don't understand them, if they don't really know what's
Speaker 1: going on. I know that you have had actually quite
Speaker 1: a few experiences that probably were traumatic for you and
Speaker 1: you look back and they may not be as as bad,
Speaker 1: or maybe.
Speaker 3: They were even positive experience. Isn't that right?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? You know I have explained this to you before, Like,
Speaker 4: there's several different categories of experiences I've had. They're the loving, educational,
Speaker 4: gentle things that I've experienced. There have been things that
Speaker 4: have been scary for me just because I either I
Speaker 4: was a child or just it was completely unfamiliar and
Speaker 4: I was in a you know, went into a fair state,
Speaker 4: but they weren't necessarily bad. And then I've had horrible,
Speaker 4: awful experiences that you know that that are just pure
Speaker 4: trauma on that side. But you know, there's those things
Speaker 4: that have happened to me, like around the age of seven,
Speaker 4: when I had an implant put in. They were not
Speaker 4: trying to harm me, They did not want me afraid,
Speaker 4: but I was afraid, and and that moment did cause trauma.
Speaker 3: Could you tell us a little bit about that experience?
Speaker 4: Sure, this was something that was recalled during a regression
Speaker 4: hypnotic regression with Evon Smith, and I purposely went to
Speaker 4: her as I was experiencing traumatic symptoms. I was not sleeping,
Speaker 4: I was starting to not be able to function. I
Speaker 4: was very paranoid, could not turn off the lights, you know,
Speaker 4: at night. I was afraid something was going to come
Speaker 4: and get me that, you know that paranoid failing. Okay,
Speaker 4: just leave me alone, don't don't come tonight, just let me,
Speaker 4: let me sleep. And I understood. I was a contact
Speaker 4: at that point, and I told her I need to
Speaker 4: go back to this moment where the trauma happened. I
Speaker 4: have got to put it to bed because I need
Speaker 4: to sleep and I need to start functioning. And and
Speaker 4: that's that's where I went. Was to the age of
Speaker 4: seven and and this was in my hometown of Mantos, Colorado.
Speaker 4: I was seven years old, and I remembered a light
Speaker 4: coming through the window that was really really bright, and
Speaker 4: I thought it was the moon, and like, why is
Speaker 4: the moon so bright? And it was at that point
Speaker 4: that I realized that there was a being standing right
Speaker 4: by my bed, right at my head, and had a
Speaker 4: very feminine feel. I don't know if these beings have gender,
Speaker 4: but it was a very nurturing and kind feeling. And
Speaker 4: she felt familiar to me, and she said, you know,
Speaker 4: don't need you don't need to worry. We're just going
Speaker 4: to go have some fun. And I'm like, okay. And
Speaker 4: there was a being at my feet, and then there
Speaker 4: was a being at my door, and the one at
Speaker 4: my feet kind of put his hands underneath my feet,
Speaker 4: and I was able to levitate me just just by
Speaker 4: touching my foot, and I levitated on my back feet
Speaker 4: first and floated. They floated me into the hallway and
Speaker 4: the three beings and I ascended up towards the ceiling
Speaker 4: and then through the ceiling, through the roof and out
Speaker 4: of the out out of the house, and I was
Speaker 4: able to see there was like this beam of light,
Speaker 4: which was what was bugging me, keeping keeping me up.
Speaker 4: That was what was so bright, was coming out of
Speaker 4: like an aperture in the bottom of this disc shaped craft.
Speaker 4: And we ascended through, you know, up the light and
Speaker 4: into the into the ship. I remember them kind of
Speaker 4: like floating me over, felt like a conveyor belt, almost
Speaker 4: just kind of moving me over till I got to
Speaker 4: like a hallway. The hallways were all very round, and
Speaker 4: everything was very round and metallic and very sterile, very
Speaker 4: similar to when I was little in the rooms were
Speaker 4: but it was white. I remember white when I was little.
Speaker 4: This one was more metallic, like what it would be
Speaker 4: like on the inside of a milk truck if you
Speaker 4: think about that. Just very smooth, sterile, metallic. And I
Speaker 4: was maneuvered down a hallway and into a room on
Speaker 4: the left hand side. Why I remember that, I don't know,
Speaker 4: but it was very much like a dentist or a
Speaker 4: dental theater. There was a chair that looked like a
Speaker 4: dentist's chair. There were like almost like a cabinets and
Speaker 4: things along the wall and countertops what I perceived instruments
Speaker 4: on them and things like that. I was put into
Speaker 4: the chair and didn't have any thoughts or feelings until
Speaker 4: they started to secure me into the chair, and I
Speaker 4: started to become a little bit nervous. And it was
Speaker 4: at that point in time that another being walked into
Speaker 4: the room who did not look like these three beings,
Speaker 4: did not feel like these three beings. It was very tall,
Speaker 4: and I went into like an immediate panic. I think
Speaker 4: because of my fear state, I cannot quite recall exactly
Speaker 4: what his face looked like, but I know that he
Speaker 4: was very, very tall, and thin. He had on a
Speaker 4: jumpsuit similar to the tall white that I saw when
Speaker 4: I was a little older, but he was much thinner,
Speaker 4: and I want to say his head was triangular and
Speaker 4: there were moving mouth parts on the bottom, which makes
Speaker 4: me wonder was this imnted type But it was very
Speaker 4: insect like and and yeah, I freaked out. And I
Speaker 4: just remember that being like telepathically telling the other ones
Speaker 4: if you don't calm her down, and you're going to
Speaker 4: have to take her back. And yeah, and that's when
Speaker 4: the female being kind of you know, leaned across me,
Speaker 4: and I don't really remember what happened, but she was
Speaker 4: able to calm me down. And that is when the
Speaker 4: tall skinny being approached me and inserted this It was
Speaker 4: like a pink to latinous blob looking thing to me.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't see like anything metallic or anything.
Speaker 4: I just saw this weird biological mass coming towards me.
Speaker 4: Maybe the size of a dime is what my mind
Speaker 4: calls up. And it was in this like silver fork
Speaker 4: like thing about maybe a foot long, and that's what
Speaker 4: they inserted into the roof of my mouth. After the
Speaker 4: procedure he left the room, I was unstrapped, and the
Speaker 4: female being took me by the hand. We looked out
Speaker 4: the window and it was very peaceful and sweet and
Speaker 4: got to see how beautiful the earth looked from above,
Speaker 4: and then I was returned to my bed. From what
Speaker 4: I have been able to tell, the implant is for communications,
Speaker 4: just so I can communicate with these beings, and so
Speaker 4: therefore not necessarily a negative thing, and I really was
Speaker 4: not hurt in the process. I do not remember anything
Speaker 4: besides being afraid of this being, and that really is
Speaker 4: what set off the trauma in me. And after the
Speaker 4: regression and coming back too, Yvonne said, I've heard the
Speaker 4: story two other times before, same things with the dentist
Speaker 4: chair the implant in that same spot, and so you know,
Speaker 4: I came out of that saying, okay, I'm not crazy.
Speaker 4: You know, I knew I was an experiencer, but I
Speaker 4: didn't know I wasn't experiencing, you know, until that moment.
Speaker 4: And it really put a lot of things to rest,
Speaker 4: and honestly, I was able to sleep after that and
Speaker 4: haven't had any problems.
Speaker 1: That's really fascinating. I've heard such similar accounts, especially with
Speaker 1: the mantis or insect like beings, the taller beings being
Speaker 1: in either some type of position of power or like
Speaker 1: scientist or doctor or something like that along those lines.
Speaker 3: In so many.
Speaker 1: Encounters which I find really really interesting. Have you had
Speaker 1: any other encounters with these like insect aid type beings.
Speaker 4: There's only one other thing that I read call And honestly,
Speaker 4: the recall happened about the same time as the recall
Speaker 4: of when I was about four years old, so you know,
Speaker 4: given the last year, I remember being about six years
Speaker 4: old in a room again very round, very round room
Speaker 4: with round door. There was two round doorways across from me.
Speaker 4: I was seated on a bench and I was about six,
Speaker 4: about six years old, and for whatever reason that I
Speaker 4: remember being in my underwear and there was a little
Speaker 4: boy sitting next to me, also in underwear, and I
Speaker 4: remember as being so terrified. We were kind of clinging
Speaker 4: to each other. And the only other thing I remember
Speaker 4: about the room itself was that the floor was like
Speaker 4: emanating black. It was like absence of light, and it
Speaker 4: made it look kind of foggy coming up from the floor,
Speaker 4: and then the rest of the room was like a
Speaker 4: red color. I don't know, it's very strange way to
Speaker 4: describe a room, but it was like anti light, and
Speaker 4: then like just a glow of red above us, and
Speaker 4: and then two of these very tall beings that looked
Speaker 4: very similar mounted types came one through each doorway and
Speaker 4: they picked us up and separated us. And I just
Speaker 4: remember being terrified of that as well. So that's it,
Speaker 4: that's that's and that's all I've got.
Speaker 3: That's super fascinating.
Speaker 1: What age did you really start to kind of maybe
Speaker 1: have a little understanding that you're dealing with extraterrestrials, And
Speaker 1: you know, when did you decide to get regressions done.
Speaker 4: I was nineteen at the point that I started to say, okay,
Speaker 4: there's something to this. You know, I had had those
Speaker 4: weird paranormal experiences my entire life, ramping up as a teenager.
Speaker 4: I had a moment where I was late coming home
Speaker 4: one day. I was you know, I was a teenager.
Speaker 4: I was out at my boyfriend's house, like, oh crap,
Speaker 4: I'm late. I have to get home. And I drove
Speaker 4: home and got home like fifteen minutes before I left. Somehow,
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's always stuck in my head, like, Okay,
Speaker 4: something weird happened there. And then I would have sensations
Speaker 4: of slamming back down into my bed. So I was
Speaker 4: convinced at the age of seventeen that I was levitating,
Speaker 4: and like, I'm levitating or something. And now I understand
Speaker 4: that's not what was going on. But at nineteen years old,
Speaker 4: I was attending New Mexico State University in Las Crusas,
Speaker 4: New Mexico, and there was a lecture being given by
Speaker 4: a man about UFOs and state documents and things like that,
Speaker 4: and I thought, I really want to go see this.
Speaker 4: I'd always been fascinated by UFOs at this point, and
Speaker 4: I get in there, sat down, listen to the lecture.
Speaker 4: I know who it is now that I was speaking.
Speaker 4: It was Stanton Friedman. Of course, at when I was nineteen,
Speaker 4: I had no idea who he was. But something shifted
Speaker 4: in me that night from fascination with the topic to terror.
Speaker 4: And by the time I left, I was afraid to
Speaker 4: look at the sky. And I had walked to this
Speaker 4: lecture at that point and it was dark out and
Speaker 4: I had a hard time, and so whatever it was
Speaker 4: just shifted anight knew and I actually did have an
Speaker 4: experience that night, and it developed through my twenties, like
Speaker 4: little bits and pieces of memories coming back, encounters that
Speaker 4: were happening that I was consciously aware of or dream
Speaker 4: like experiences with these beings. But it wasn't until my
Speaker 4: early forties that I went in for a regression. So
Speaker 4: there were many, many years of experiencing things, remembering things,
Speaker 4: and living in this kind of a terror around it.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had any experience is where you actually
Speaker 1: saw any unidentified flying objects before or around the same time.
Speaker 4: No, I you know, I've seen I've seen ships, and
Speaker 4: I've had experiences, but it's never I've never been outside,
Speaker 4: seen a ship and had an experience at that moment.
Speaker 4: Most of my experiences happen while I'm in bed, like
Speaker 4: I'm in bed asleep. That's and that's when my encounters happened.
Speaker 1: Now, do you think these are more physical? Are more
Speaker 1: of just kind of your your consciousness being taken in
Speaker 1: a way?
Speaker 4: I think there's a good argument for a combination of both.
Speaker 4: I will have experiences where I have bruises and marks
Speaker 4: and you know, punctures like needle puncture wounds, and I mean,
Speaker 4: how can those things happen if it's not physical. At
Speaker 4: the same time, I've got a camera in my room
Speaker 4: just because now now that I'm okay with things going on,
Speaker 4: I'm curious, like I want to see I want to
Speaker 4: see what happens. And so I have a camera in
Speaker 4: my room, and there are times when I'll have contact
Speaker 4: with beings and remember it and recall it, but there's
Speaker 4: there's nothing on film. Either. The camera has malfunctioned. One
Speaker 4: time the camera was turned on its head, so the
Speaker 4: lens was down, you know, on the desk that I
Speaker 4: was sitting on, and and then other times there's you know,
Speaker 4: there's things that will fly through the room orbs, these
Speaker 4: weird squares, but no, you know, I am not taken
Speaker 4: out of the bed and returned there that so it
Speaker 4: I don't know is the answer to that.
Speaker 3: Really, That's that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Now You've also had encounters that weren't too pleasant that
Speaker 1: may have involved possibly the military.
Speaker 4: Correct correct, And that's you know, one of those moments
Speaker 4: where it feels like a dream. This would have been
Speaker 4: in about twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. I had already met
Speaker 4: Yvonne Smith at this time because I lived for a
Speaker 4: long time in Roswell, New Mexico. Of all places for
Speaker 4: an experiencer to end up. I lived there for twenty
Speaker 4: years and I had It took me a long time,
Speaker 4: but I started to go to the festivals. I had
Speaker 4: met Yvonne and knew what she did. And at the
Speaker 4: time of the festival in about twenty thirteen, I a
Speaker 4: friend of mine had gone and we were going to
Speaker 4: just get up and go the next day. So he
Speaker 4: slept on the couch and I went into my room
Speaker 4: and you know, propably went to sleep, and that night
Speaker 4: I had a dream. It felt like I woke up
Speaker 4: ish and I like I was like leaving the bedroom
Speaker 4: through the window and I was wrapped in this weirdjourney.
Speaker 4: You know, I've never experienced this before, but I was
Speaker 4: in a gurney and I felt the beings around me,
Speaker 4: and I remember thinking, Okay, this is weird. Huh. You know,
Speaker 4: as I'm watching material pass over me as I'm going
Speaker 4: outside kind of black out, I came to with excruciating
Speaker 4: pain across my abdomen. It just kind of shot me awake,
Speaker 4: but I couldn't move because you know, when you're hurting
Speaker 4: in your stomach, you want to cover it up and
Speaker 4: cradle it. But I couldn't because I was strapped onto
Speaker 4: a table. Of some sort. And you know, it was
Speaker 4: more like a cot, not one like a metallic table
Speaker 4: you would find on ship that people, you know, it's
Speaker 4: not this sterile environment. I'm in a cot and across
Speaker 4: my abdomen is a like a surgical tint in a way.
Speaker 4: I could not see below it. I could see my feet,
Speaker 4: you know, and I could see the being. There were
Speaker 4: two very like tall gray beings at my feet, kind
Speaker 4: of like in between my legs, you know, like I was,
Speaker 4: you know, spread eagled in a way like like you
Speaker 4: would see a woman in stirrups type of thing. And
Speaker 4: and I was in a lot of pain, but I
Speaker 4: knew I was not alone in the room, because I
Speaker 4: could hear other women that were also in pain. And
Speaker 4: I was able to manipulate my head enough to see
Speaker 4: that there were, yes, multiple multiples of these cots in
Speaker 4: this room, but the same thing happening to each one
Speaker 4: of each one of us. And I saw a being
Speaker 4: approaching me, you know, from a distance, coming towards me,
Speaker 4: and he was he appeared human. He was in fatigues,
Speaker 4: and he had a white lab coat on and he
Speaker 4: was carrying a clipboard. He had a gray buzz cut hair.
Speaker 4: He really looked military. To me, he looked human. Whether
Speaker 4: he was or not, I don't know, but this is
Speaker 4: what I perceived. And I started yelling out, hey, you know,
Speaker 4: get me out of here, what's going on? And he
Speaker 4: looked at me and then he looked away and went
Speaker 4: on about it business as if I didn't even exist.
Speaker 4: And in a way, that was worse than you know,
Speaker 4: the pain that I was feeling, and it was it
Speaker 4: was it was horrible, absolutely horrible. And you know, another
Speaker 4: thing that was striking at the time was I was
Speaker 4: not in that sterile environment like I said. I could
Speaker 4: actually saw rock walls like I was underground. And when
Speaker 4: I woke up in the morning, I thought, oh, that
Speaker 4: was awful. That was a terrible, horrible nightmare, you know.
Speaker 4: But I had cramps along my stomach, and I looked
Speaker 4: in the mirror and my eyes were swollen, you know,
Speaker 4: the eyelids were super puffy. I had broken blood vessels
Speaker 4: all around that, you know, under my eyes and across
Speaker 4: my eyelids and the bridge of my nose like I
Speaker 4: had been crying really really hard and straining myself, and
Speaker 4: and I had bruises on the inside of my thighs
Speaker 4: so I was like, okay, okay, that was not a dream.
Speaker 4: And it was at that point in time that I
Speaker 4: was no longer sleeping and I could, you know, and
Speaker 4: I couldn't couldn't sleep with the light off I had,
Speaker 4: you know, I was up all night and I was
Speaker 4: starting to not function at work miswork, and it was
Speaker 4: you know, that's when I said, Okay, Yvon, we've got
Speaker 4: to do a regression. And I expected to go back
Speaker 4: to that moment that I actually had pretty good recall of,
Speaker 4: but no that it took me to the age of seven.
Speaker 1: So now, have did you have any other experiences that
Speaker 1: could have been military involvement or just a negative entities.
Speaker 4: Really, that's the only one that I have any significant
Speaker 4: recall of. I've had strange dreams of also being in
Speaker 4: these underground places where I'm trying to escape, I'm running away,
Speaker 4: and so it makes me wonder if I have had
Speaker 4: other experiences or I'm just trying to come to terms
Speaker 4: with these things. But yeah, that's the only one that
Speaker 4: I have recall of.
Speaker 1: Now, something that I find interesting that's been in I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe eighty ninety percent of contacting abduct these
Speaker 1: testimonies is that these beings are wearing jumpsuits.
Speaker 3: Whether they be little.
Speaker 1: Gray beings or tall beings or even insectoid beings, they're
Speaker 1: all wearing like form fitting jumpsuits, some with emblems on them.
Speaker 1: Is this something that you've noticed with the you know,
Speaker 1: most of your contact experience, that these beings are wearing
Speaker 1: these jumpsuits.
Speaker 4: I would say some of them doing some of them,
Speaker 4: don't you know? The manted type being, the insect like
Speaker 4: being had on a jumpsuit. The tall white who is
Speaker 4: teaching me had on a jumpsuit. But those are the
Speaker 4: only two I recall having jumpsuits. Yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 4: don't remember like the grays working with me in jumpsuits.
Speaker 4: So that's very and no, I guess is the answer.
Speaker 1: To that one the grays that you've worked with, did
Speaker 1: you find them more kind of robotic like or more
Speaker 1: humanoid and biological?
Speaker 3: And were they smaller or taller.
Speaker 4: I have had I don't remember the robotic types at all.
Speaker 4: I don't have recall of those. The gray beings that
Speaker 4: I have had contact with. And one time I was
Speaker 4: awake and I knew they were coming, so I forced
Speaker 4: myself to stay awake. They were much smaller than what
Speaker 4: I would think of as you know, a typical gray
Speaker 4: that's like three and a half feet tall or whatever.
Speaker 4: I would say, maybe two and a half to three
Speaker 4: feet tall. They were very very small, very small, and
Speaker 4: very childlike. And the experience I had and recall the best.
Speaker 4: I have never felt that level of love in my life,
Speaker 4: you know. And in those three categories, this one's definitely
Speaker 4: in the very loving, gentle amazing experience that I've had.
Speaker 4: And this would have been around two thousand and two.
Speaker 4: I was standing outside with my mom during one of
Speaker 4: the meteor showers of what it must have been like
Speaker 4: the leand I think it was in August, and I
Speaker 4: had this sinking feeling like, oh gosh, something's going to
Speaker 4: happen tonight. I know it, but I'm going to stay up.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to go to sleep. I'm going to
Speaker 4: experience this or I'm going to call myself crazy. And
Speaker 4: around three am is when they came through my bedroom door,
Speaker 4: and there were three of them. But like I said,
Speaker 4: they were tiny, very very small, and child just. They
Speaker 4: had this enthusiasm and bounce about them and definitely not robotic.
Speaker 4: If you've seen close encounters of the third kind. When
Speaker 4: the ship lands and it opens and the beings come
Speaker 4: out and they're just sort of skipping. There's very much
Speaker 4: what what they were like, and you know, they came
Speaker 4: in the room and one of them actually crawled onto
Speaker 4: the bed that I was sitting on, and he came
Speaker 4: up close and put his hand up on my chest
Speaker 4: and he told me, in thirty seven you're gonna have
Speaker 4: some problems here. And I didn't understand what in thirty
Speaker 4: seven meant. But then everything kind of switched into this
Speaker 4: weird dream like state and I was on ship and
Speaker 4: we were looking at mood rings. I don't know, it
Speaker 4: gets really bizarre. And I know that it's you know,
Speaker 4: very common for these things to turn into some sort
Speaker 4: of astral thing that happens. But I would have been
Speaker 4: like twenty seven at the time. When I was thirty seven.
Speaker 4: I did end up having a lump that in my
Speaker 4: chest that had to be looked at. And when that happened,
Speaker 4: I thought, maybe that's what he meant. Maybe that's what
Speaker 4: he meant, you know, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very it could very well be. Now is
Speaker 1: there the community between you and these beings? It's psychic communication?
Speaker 1: Whenever I've had my experiences, it was basically a meditative
Speaker 1: experience in the entities that I was communicating with.
Speaker 3: It was like.
Speaker 1: It was like at this emotion or feeling that I got,
Speaker 1: or kind of like mental imagery that I understood to
Speaker 1: be a language immediately, and it was this immediate type
Speaker 1: of communication to where I could ask a question and
Speaker 1: the answer would come before I was even done asking
Speaker 1: the question. Is that something similar to what you experienced?
Speaker 4: It really is the other day, this would probably be
Speaker 4: my most recent experience with contact. I was asleep in
Speaker 4: dreaming and I was approached by being who who was
Speaker 4: teaching me about bees and how bees communicate in a
Speaker 4: hive mind type of fashion. And it has to do
Speaker 4: with vibration. So if you raise your vibration, then you
Speaker 4: can reach this consciousness line level where you can tap
Speaker 4: into what we are thinking about. And if you can
Speaker 4: tap into our thoughts, then we can communicate that way.
Speaker 4: And it was it was fascinating being able to learn
Speaker 4: how that communication works. If I sit and I and
Speaker 4: I clear my mind and raise my vibration, you know,
Speaker 4: through you know, slight transfer meditation, the information is very
Speaker 4: very easy for me to reach and grasp and it
Speaker 4: does come in either words or pictures. But then I'm
Speaker 4: able to tell others you know what it is that
Speaker 4: I'm saying. If somebody asks question, I can just It's
Speaker 4: almost just like reaching up and pulling the information out
Speaker 4: and giving it. Okay, this is what is in this consciousness.
Speaker 1: If that makes sense, Yes, it does, it does. And
Speaker 1: when is this you know, contact and communication? Is it
Speaker 1: really kind of ongoing? And have you gotten any basically
Speaker 1: profound messages from these beings recently?
Speaker 4: It really is like just having a stream of information
Speaker 4: in my head and anytime I want something or I
Speaker 4: need even reassurance whatever, it's there and available to me.
Speaker 4: It's like having a constant, you know. It's almost like
Speaker 4: an angel, devil on the shoulder type of thing. There
Speaker 4: is always communication happening. And yeah, some of the profound
Speaker 4: things that have come across recently, I was saying the
Speaker 4: past year since publishing my book has been you as
Speaker 4: a people need to heal your traumas so that we
Speaker 4: can communicate with you without you, guys, being in a
Speaker 4: fear state, because if you go into a fear state,
Speaker 4: we cannot talk, we cannot tell you why we are here.
Speaker 4: Because you can't hear us. So we've got to work
Speaker 4: on those traumas, heal those traumas, and be able to
Speaker 4: communicate from a state of calm so that we can
Speaker 4: hear the messages without warping it due to panic or
Speaker 4: due to trauma. And so that is one thing that
Speaker 4: was really really strong that came through recently. And then
Speaker 4: you know, just uh, just a really fast thing that
Speaker 4: had happened. I was on a radio show with Jimmy Church.
Speaker 4: I was doing Fade to Black, and he was asking
Speaker 4: me pointed questions like Okay, so how do they get
Speaker 4: from here to there? Where are they? Where are they from?
Speaker 4: How do they travel? What's going on? And and instantaneous
Speaker 4: information I had was that's irrelevant. And I was like, wow, okay,
Speaker 4: that's irrelevant. They're not traveling that way. It's not linear
Speaker 4: like you're thinking. You know, it's a yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was cool just to have that instant answer right there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is really cool.
Speaker 1: Now for throughout your experiences, have you had any types
Speaker 1: of experience where it could have been some type of
Speaker 1: DNA or fertilization experiments.
Speaker 3: I've had quite a few contact.
Speaker 1: These that say they've even met hybrid children on chips
Speaker 1: anything similar to that.
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, I have. I have been through the whole thing,
Speaker 4: the whole gamut. Uh. When I was taken to the room,
Speaker 4: the gymnasium room with the being that was teaching me
Speaker 4: the gravity manipulation. Right before that, I was I had
Speaker 4: you know, I was stripped of clothes and checked for
Speaker 4: fertilization issues and things like that. But I was right
Speaker 4: at puberty. And then I have had several times where
Speaker 4: I thought I was pregnant but I wasn't, And then
Speaker 4: you know, having all the symptoms and like why it
Speaker 4: is going on, and then only to have a dream
Speaker 4: of having a child, and then you know, and and
Speaker 4: I've been able to you know, like okay, it's about
Speaker 4: three months, like okay, I feel like I'm pregnant. Three
Speaker 4: months later I have the dream that there's a baby
Speaker 4: has taken And then of course during that time when
Speaker 4: I was in that underground area with the other women
Speaker 4: that were calling out, I knew that they were taking
Speaker 4: a child at that point. So yes, the DNA harvesting
Speaker 4: and the and the creation of hybrids is very real
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 1: See things like that, and different ancient stories and accounts
Speaker 1: that you know, we could have been genetically modified thousands
Speaker 1: of years ago and we may just be an experiment
Speaker 1: for extra terrestrials. They're just kind of looking after us all,
Speaker 1: you know, for thousands of years and you know, doing
Speaker 1: experiments harvesting our DNA, making hybrids. What do you think
Speaker 1: about that possibility that we could just be a big
Speaker 1: experiment for extraterrestrials.
Speaker 4: I think I think there's a lot to that. I
Speaker 4: think that we were created there was some sort of
Speaker 4: purposeful changing of the DNA for for whatever it was
Speaker 4: that they needed. You know, I've heard different stories, whether
Speaker 4: it was just to be minors for gold or you know,
Speaker 4: whatever it is. There there was a purpose behind us
Speaker 4: becoming who we are. You know, goes back to the
Speaker 4: missing link. How did how did we get from here
Speaker 4: to hear with the consciousness you know, and things like that,
Speaker 4: And to me, it rings very true. Whether it's real,
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it rings true.
Speaker 3: It does. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the more the more I look into it and
Speaker 1: the more accounts I hear, it just brings me closer
Speaker 1: to that conclusion, especially when you look at all the
Speaker 1: connections with paranormal activity and metaphysical things that occur if
Speaker 1: you look at hotspots like Skinwalker Ranch or Mount Shasta
Speaker 1: or Sedona, Arizona, these places that have like great paranormal
Speaker 1: energy and all these strange things happen around the same time,
Speaker 1: like you'll have UFO sidings or cryptid sidings, paranormal activity
Speaker 1: all kind of concentrated into this one area. And being
Speaker 1: that it's all connected, I don't know, it makes me
Speaker 1: think that we may be under the control of some
Speaker 1: very highly intelligent species that has the control over our
Speaker 1: reality basically, right, I.
Speaker 4: Would not be surprised at all. I think that we're
Speaker 4: only on the verge of fully understanding what's going on.
Speaker 4: And you know, as you said earlier, what is this
Speaker 4: understanding what is going on? And that's those things that
Speaker 4: we can only speculate about at this point in time.
Speaker 4: And I think that the research, especially with consciousness, is
Speaker 4: really starting to go there, and it's very exciting.
Speaker 1: It is, and it's exciting that they are kind of
Speaker 1: coming out with this in the mainstream and our own
Speaker 1: government is talking about UFOs. Although I don't trust any
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's being painted as a threat.
Speaker 1: I really don't like this whole TTS a thing I
Speaker 1: don't trust the the people that are involved with it,
Speaker 1: but I pay attention to it because I think it's fascinating.
Speaker 1: I think the timing of all this information being released
Speaker 1: is very interesting. We're supposed to have more of it
Speaker 1: coming up in June, and I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: opening up people's minds to it. But I think it's
Speaker 1: very I have to be cautious when I look at
Speaker 1: this stuff. I don't know what's going on, and I
Speaker 1: think that there is some kind of agenda behind it.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? I mean, there's an agenda behind each and every
Speaker 4: being that is contacting any human. You know, there's an agenda,
Speaker 4: whether it's genetics, whether it's manipulation. You know, we don't know.
Speaker 4: We just don't know what the agendas are. But the
Speaker 4: government itself is going to have an agenda, and that
Speaker 4: agenda may be different than the agendas that we are receiving.
Speaker 4: As contact ease one of the things that I've been
Speaker 4: able to deduce. I mean, we don't know, we don't
Speaker 4: know what these guys want, we don't know what they're after,
Speaker 4: but oftentimes contact these come back with particular messages, and
Speaker 4: and those messages are you know, to take care of
Speaker 4: the planet, you know, and work on conservancy and all
Speaker 4: of these things, clean your water, do those you know,
Speaker 4: all the things to save and protect the planet. Another
Speaker 4: thing is do not wage war, especially nuclear war, and
Speaker 4: love each other and and those those things that we
Speaker 4: receive en mass. It's not just one or two experiences,
Speaker 4: it's many experiences that come back with these messages. And
Speaker 4: and my thoughts are, well, then they can't be all
Speaker 4: that bad, you know, these these beings. But you know,
Speaker 4: thinking of what the government could be alluding to when
Speaker 4: we're thinking of creating a space force and and you know,
Speaker 4: ideas of what we have to unify as a planet
Speaker 4: to protect ourselves from the outside enemy really makes me nervous, like, really,
Speaker 4: is that really? Are we really at that in danger?
Speaker 4: Or is this a sham? I don't know, you know,
Speaker 4: That's where I get like, ah, I'm not so sure,
Speaker 4: and I don't trust it either.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's definitely something interesting to look at. Do
Speaker 1: you think that more people are actually having contact experiences
Speaker 1: now or do you think it's just access to the
Speaker 1: internet and people are becoming more comfortable talking about it,
Speaker 1: or do you think there's actually an uptick in this
Speaker 1: kind of contact activity.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if there's an uptick in it, but
Speaker 4: definitely people are becoming more open to speaking about it,
Speaker 4: feeling more protected as they do so, or supported, which
Speaker 4: is hugely important. Knowing that you have a community that
Speaker 4: will accept you for who you are is hugely a
Speaker 4: relief for experiencers and being afraid to talk because of,
Speaker 4: you know, the stigma around this. However, at the same time,
Speaker 4: I think that more and more people are all of
Speaker 4: a sudden becoming aware of it. It's almost like people
Speaker 4: are turning online, if that makes sense. I'm meeting more
Speaker 4: and more people who are connecting the dots, and oftentimes
Speaker 4: it is listening to another experiencer such as myself, you know,
Speaker 4: anybody else that's on a podcast or a radio show,
Speaker 4: and explaining that what has happened, and people are like,
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I remember something similar to that, Oh
Speaker 4: my gosh, I've had those bruises, and then being able
Speaker 4: to say, oh, shoot, this really has happened to me,
Speaker 4: and it's I don't know, maybe it's just like that
Speaker 4: snowball effect. More people are feeling comfortable, so more people
Speaker 4: are talking, they're writing, they're publishing. It's getting out there
Speaker 4: more and more and people are able to hear it
Speaker 4: and recognize it in themselves.
Speaker 1: Something else I find really common among contact these and
Speaker 1: experiencers and people who just you know, have stranger things
Speaker 1: happen in their life in general, is synchronicities and the
Speaker 1: abundance of them in their lives, and that the fact
Speaker 1: that you pretty much have to follow them if they're
Speaker 1: going to appear there. I always have to follow any
Speaker 1: any kind of strange thing that pops up in front
Speaker 1: of me that does point me a certain direction. I
Speaker 1: go there, and it usually ends up pretty good for me,
Speaker 1: you know. And I've had all kinds of strange things
Speaker 1: happen like that, especially in the past few years, kind
Speaker 1: of leading me in certain directions. Would you say, if
Speaker 1: you know, to follow those synchronicities, if you're if you're
Speaker 1: experiencing them.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah. Some of those synchronicities can be numbers. A
Speaker 4: lot of people see the the repeated numbers four four
Speaker 4: four one, you know, eleven, eleven to to two, whatever
Speaker 4: it is, Pay attention and listen and you know, check
Speaker 4: your surroundings, what's going on right now or what's about
Speaker 4: to happen? The more of the synchronicities we can follow
Speaker 4: and understand, the more we understand how the universe or
Speaker 4: whoever these beings are, are communicating with us. I had
Speaker 4: one really intense series of synchronicities that happened to me
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago that helped me understand this
Speaker 4: is direct communication. I was at a paranormal conference, just
Speaker 4: a very small one in a Santa Fe and I
Speaker 4: was eating breakfast in the casino and the song Don't
Speaker 4: Stop Believing comes on. I happen to love Steve Perry,
Speaker 4: so Don't Stop Believing comes on the radio. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I love this song. It's cool. I look up and
Speaker 4: the guy across from me is wearing a T shirt
Speaker 4: that says don't Stop Believing on the back, and I'm like, whoa,
Speaker 4: that's weird. You know there's you a synchronicity. You would
Speaker 4: think that would be it, and yeah, it was cool.
Speaker 4: Later that afternoon, I was walking down the hallway and
Speaker 4: I had one of the those strange sounds in my
Speaker 4: ears that happened often to contact these It's just a
Speaker 4: tone that will start and I'm like, okay, I'm hearing
Speaker 4: the tone, and then that guy in that shirt walked
Speaker 4: by me, you know, he like kind of passed me,
Speaker 4: and I was able to see the shirt again, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, okay, okay, so this is direct communication.
Speaker 4: I get it. You made the sound, I acknowledged it,
Speaker 4: and then there's the guy, so I knew I knew
Speaker 4: it was. Yeah. So I mean the synchronicity is are communication,
Speaker 4: that's they're trying to get our attention.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had a fun one the other day where I
Speaker 1: was it's actually saying something and the TV person on
Speaker 1: the TV said the same thing that I said at
Speaker 1: the same time, and it was it was something that
Speaker 1: I was supposed to do later in the afternoon, and
Speaker 1: it just kind of helped me, you know, figure something out.
Speaker 1: So it was like, wow, that was, you know, really cool.
Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely definitely got to follow those. Now, you
Speaker 1: also do readings and shamanic energy work.
Speaker 3: Could you tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, about the time that I went to
Speaker 4: see Stanton Freeman when I was around nineteen years old
Speaker 4: is when I began to do learn about taro. So
Speaker 4: I've been doing tarot readings for almost thirty years at
Speaker 4: this point in time, and as I have developed it
Speaker 4: and learned it and begin to understand where the information
Speaker 4: is coming from in my mind in the readings. And
Speaker 4: oftentimes it is because of et contact and the expanded
Speaker 4: abilities for telepi and things like that that it makes
Speaker 4: it easier for me. But also contact through contact, I
Speaker 4: have learned how to like walk between dimensions, how to
Speaker 4: go into a trance state and go to a different
Speaker 4: place or a different time and heal you know, somebody
Speaker 4: like a past life and just work on what happened
Speaker 4: at the time and shift energies around. Oftentimes around trauma,
Speaker 4: we will like a piece of our soul will detach,
Speaker 4: and I am able to go back and get all
Speaker 4: those pieces and heal the person so that they can
Speaker 4: continue forward in their life. And all of these things
Speaker 4: I think are directly related to my experiences because I
Speaker 4: was taught by them how to do this. I say
Speaker 4: shaman because I have no other idea what to call
Speaker 4: myself when it comes to these things. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know what it is that I'm doing. I
Speaker 4: just know that it's energy manipulation. It has to do
Speaker 4: with interdimensionality and being able to step out of space
Speaker 4: time and walk and figure out where it is I
Speaker 4: need to go that way. Yeah, so it's real convoluted,
Speaker 4: but no, I get it.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 1: And you're also going to be a presenter at this
Speaker 1: year's laugh flin UFO Mega Conference. You're just going to
Speaker 1: be basically be talking about your experiences through your life, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, basically that's exactly what I'm going to be doing.
Speaker 4: I'm going to be walking people through what it was
Speaker 4: like to live in the trauma state and come to
Speaker 4: terms with it through the shamanic lens and you know,
Speaker 4: understanding the healing that was happening on me on a
Speaker 4: very energetic level to come around to the other side
Speaker 4: and understand and accept and even embrace being in contact E.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very much looking forward to that, and I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to meeting you in Laughlin. I want to
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on tonight. If people
Speaker 1: want to find out more about you and you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully come out and meet us in Laughlin. What's the
Speaker 1: best way they can find out more about you and
Speaker 1: your work.
Speaker 4: I have a website Aaron Montgomery dot net. You can
Speaker 4: always reach me through that. You can also find me
Speaker 4: on Facebook, Dirty Little Secret has its own you just
Speaker 4: have to make sure you see my face on there.
Speaker 4: I know there are other dirty little secrets that are available.
Speaker 4: And then also I have a page for my shamanic work,
Speaker 4: which is Aaron Montgomery multi dimensional Messenger.
Speaker 1: Awesome, well, Aerin, thank you so much again for coming
Speaker 1: on tonight.
Speaker 3: That was great.
Speaker 1: Look forward to talking with you at the conference and
Speaker 1: hopefully we can have a little sit down there.
Speaker 4: Wonderful. That would be great.
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