Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
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Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
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Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property. And for this week of October fourteenth,
Speaker 1: we're continuing with Lost, Season one, episode fifteen, Homecoming. And no,
Speaker 1: there are no corsages, no nice graide, no football game,
Speaker 1: no dances, not even a golf game. I noticed that
Speaker 1: Claire does, after her traumatic return to the camp, find
Speaker 1: some time to wash her hair and borrow some of
Speaker 1: Shannon's cream rans because from her first scene to her
Speaker 1: second scene, yeah, she definitely possibly she visited the island
Speaker 1: day spot because she was looking kind of glowy a
Speaker 1: lot better. Yes, so we answered the question of is
Speaker 1: or is not? Claire ticked that she was not rescued
Speaker 1: with she forgot everything.
Speaker 2: Asia, We're off Buck, and then we're off.
Speaker 1: She was gone almost two weeks. She might have said,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, two weeks and you guys didn't go
Speaker 1: look for me, but yeah, where were you? She is
Speaker 1: fortunately still sufficiently traumatized to not be connecting those particular dots.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they dodged a bullet there.
Speaker 1: I thought maybe when Charlie said I was with you,
Speaker 1: but they took you and not me, or I was
Speaker 1: rescued or whatever he said that she would say, wait,
Speaker 1: admitt then why didn't anybody But no, she's she's kind
Speaker 1: of in a fog. Yeah, but her smells good right now,
Speaker 1: so she'll just say, oh, dear.
Speaker 2: Yeah. This was this was amnesia plot, the old plot,
Speaker 2: and then the flashbacks were Charlie growing up into a
Speaker 2: copy machine. So that's a nice usual. Yes, you know,
Speaker 2: why you wouldn't do it on the floor instead of
Speaker 2: onto a glass surface.
Speaker 1: Apparently they felt that we were in need of that.
Speaker 1: We possibly did not grasp quite enough that Charlie was
Speaker 1: a loser, so we got to give more. Charlie is
Speaker 1: a loser, loser flashbacks that was It seems like some
Speaker 1: of the flashbacks lately have been. That was a long
Speaker 1: way to go for not much. Yeah, I think we
Speaker 1: could of intuited that Charlie feels like he's not able
Speaker 1: to care for anybody, right, take care of anybody. I
Speaker 1: think we could have intuited that without the flashbacks.
Speaker 2: Without the woman specifically saying that exact thing to his face,
Speaker 2: you will never take care of any one. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 1: Really we needed all those flashbacks and vomiting in a
Speaker 1: copier to tell us that. I think we knew that already.
Speaker 1: I think he could have just said that to somebody
Speaker 1: else in passing. You could have had a chat with Jin,
Speaker 1: who he thinks doesn't understand him, and and you know,
Speaker 1: just confessed all his sins. But no, right, he gets.
Speaker 2: Maybe secretly speaks English.
Speaker 1: This is what I am trying to remember. It's not
Speaker 1: a spoiler because I don't remember that he does, but
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, in his line of work pre crash,
Speaker 1: it seems like knowing other languages would be an asset,
Speaker 1: So might not Son's dad have sent him, you know,
Speaker 1: set him up with due o lingo exactly. Yes, that's
Speaker 1: what I was trying to think of. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: kind of wonder because I think you will not be
Speaker 1: surprised to learn that there will be a time in
Speaker 1: this show when he does have lines so in English.
Speaker 1: So at some point he you know, they maybe they
Speaker 1: find a dual lingo cassette and just something to play
Speaker 1: it on and he learns miraculously, or Son teaches him.
Speaker 1: But I wonder because it does seem sometimes like but
Speaker 1: if he doesn't know she knows English, there would be
Speaker 1: no reason for him to try it out. But that
Speaker 1: maybe he knows more than he's letting on. And also
Speaker 1: talk about looking around for people who are trained to
Speaker 1: shoot a gun. He's right over there, right, pretty sure
Speaker 1: Shin is good with a gun because he came home
Speaker 1: covered with blood one time.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, yeah, we're gonna have to have
Speaker 2: a whole game of charades to get it to understand.
Speaker 1: It's did you're given one to Sawyer who who missed
Speaker 1: at close range? Yes, the marshall, why are we assuming
Speaker 1: that guy has ever handled a gun? I mean they're
Speaker 1: assuming Locke has handled a gun because he's mister Jungleman,
Speaker 1: but before this he was not. How does Jack know
Speaker 1: one how to handle a gun? Yeah, good question, the
Speaker 1: only one. I mean, we know Kate can't because we've
Speaker 1: seen her, but they don't even know that side, right.
Speaker 1: I think Sayid could just be the shooting man and
Speaker 1: the rest of you maybe Scott and Scott slash Steve
Speaker 1: was a shooter and now it's too late, time.
Speaker 2: Too late. Yeah, this, I mean, there was pretty violent
Speaker 2: this episode. We had Scott slash Steve get killed by
Speaker 2: Ethan and we had you know, Ethans show up to
Speaker 2: claim Claire.
Speaker 1: Yes, now Jack beats this guy. It beats this guy
Speaker 1: the same way he did CPR on Charlie.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Uh, and then he's all mad that Charlie shot him.
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, was he even still alive? I guess
Speaker 1: he was because he stood up enough to have his
Speaker 1: chest shot. But yeah, you know, you didn't seem to
Speaker 1: be too worried about his health when you were when
Speaker 1: you were beating. But now the.
Speaker 2: Guns are out there, Yeah I know. Yeah, Now is
Speaker 2: everybody gonna know? Everybody knows all the remaining people who
Speaker 2: are dwindling like one at a time. I don't know.
Speaker 1: They got clear back and then they lost one guy,
Speaker 1: so they're still even.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they.
Speaker 1: Lost an extra so so uh disposable that they didn't
Speaker 1: even don't know his name, that's right, yes, true, it
Speaker 1: was not painful. I don't think we ever even saw
Speaker 1: the guy's face. I think they just kind of drag
Speaker 1: dragged a body. It could have been a could have
Speaker 1: been one of the dolls.
Speaker 2: From uh in the building, that's right, yes, so, And
Speaker 2: my question was will she still be pregnant? And apparently
Speaker 2: she is, yes, hugely, hugely pregnant. And Jack says, the
Speaker 2: baby's fine.
Speaker 1: How he knows this with deethoscope or anything.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have a stethoscope. He certainly doesn't have an
Speaker 2: ultrasound machine. He doesn't have one of those like bicycle
Speaker 2: horn looking things that old time midwives use. So it's
Speaker 2: just a matter of like, I'm sure it's fine.
Speaker 1: He's a trade physician, he has deeply honed instincts. And
Speaker 1: he put his maybe he put his hand on her
Speaker 1: belly and something kicked.
Speaker 2: So yes, I do think he said the baby's kicking.
Speaker 1: Place is crazy.
Speaker 2: He can only I'm I mean mostly Claire would know that.
Speaker 2: You know, Claire would be the one to be like, yes,
Speaker 2: I feel the baby g right. So again, this this kid,
Speaker 2: I don't know. If I were it, I would stay
Speaker 2: in there as long as I could.
Speaker 1: Nothing good canna happen to you outside of that, although
Speaker 1: maybe you were drugged in it, if they were doing things,
Speaker 1: it's true. Yeah, it's just like the Boon Fallies lately. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you put Gonn, put him out on the perimeter home.
Speaker 1: He's gonna fall asleep and then he's gonna think you've
Speaker 1: found something and it's gonna be the dog.
Speaker 2: The dog. Well, at least he found the dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, looking just mighty fine.
Speaker 2: Looking fine. I don't think we ever saw Walt, and.
Speaker 1: We saw Walt. I'm pretty sure when we saw Vincent,
Speaker 1: we saw Walt, but we didn't definitely didn't see Michael.
Speaker 2: They'll have to wait for another another Michael episode to
Speaker 2: find out what's going on with those two.
Speaker 1: Oh dear, I yeah, it's just we're just on the
Speaker 1: edge of things happening. You can tell, we're just on
Speaker 1: the edge of things happening. There's been so many, so
Speaker 1: much weirdness. Eventually, this has got to converge into something right,
Speaker 1: But you know it's got to wait till the end
Speaker 1: of the season to be a cliffhanger. So meanwhile, Charlie
Speaker 1: drug addict. Did you hear he's a drug addict?
Speaker 2: I know. It's like recycling through the flashbacks. I feel
Speaker 2: like there's still some people who haven't gotten.
Speaker 1: Next week, Jack was a doctor, did you or Jack?
Speaker 2: And Kate? Kate has secrets? Did you know that secrets?
Speaker 1: Yes? And then Sawyer criminal? Don't trust him?
Speaker 2: Yep, bad guy? Remember bad game?
Speaker 1: What is the next one up?
Speaker 2: I actually think it is Sawyer?
Speaker 1: Is it? So? Is it Sawyer?
Speaker 2: It's called Outlaws?
Speaker 1: Is it really Sawyer?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we've.
Speaker 1: Had enough of that, dude. Yeah, yeah, there they are
Speaker 1: not for the last time on this show. They are
Speaker 1: marking time. Yeah we could. We could be busting the
Speaker 1: hatch open right now, but we can't do it until
Speaker 1: like until the end of the season.
Speaker 2: So we're just gonna bust in the hatch open, bust
Speaker 2: in the uterus so we can see what's.
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, Claris like, can I give birth? Please? No? No, No,
Speaker 1: there's still.
Speaker 2: More, So we need a few more episodes out of you.
Speaker 1: Oh television, we know.
Speaker 2: But so going back to Ethan, you know, Charlie shoots
Speaker 2: him because Charlie has issues.
Speaker 1: Yes, not being he did hang Charlie from a tree,
Speaker 1: so yes, just for that, I think you could feel
Speaker 1: him full of lead, right, But also he's.
Speaker 2: Taking care of he's taking care of Claire. But you know,
Speaker 2: they they said that they wanted him alive so that
Speaker 2: they could like, you know, get information out of him.
Speaker 1: But like this kind of dude is going to sing
Speaker 1: like a bird, doesn't he?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I Charlie made that point and he was correct, yes,
Speaker 1: telling he was just gonna mess with us if you
Speaker 1: if you brought him there, he would be nothing but
Speaker 1: a menace, right, He's really not just you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: eye for an eye, tooth for a toothing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I don't think his his friends are going
Speaker 2: to be friendly to you or anyone.
Speaker 1: Gee. I wonder what we're going to find out more
Speaker 1: about them, all sorts of other people in the jungle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but first Russo she's been He's right, They've waiting
Speaker 2: around for weeks.
Speaker 1: They have set up so much bleep on this thing
Speaker 1: that they're not paying off yet. And yet we have time.
Speaker 2: For another Sawyer flashback?
Speaker 1: Yes, Sawyer. Yeah, I don't know, it's it's still enjoyable
Speaker 1: just for the silly audacity of it. Right, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know none of the scenes last all that long.
Speaker 1: We're usually off to something else pretty quick. But uh
Speaker 1: did we At first we were thinking we couldn't remember
Speaker 1: seeing this episode either, but but Rick remembered Jack pommeling Ethan,
Speaker 1: So oh, this guy getting beat up. I remember that
Speaker 1: Charlie's gonna shoot him.
Speaker 2: There you go, is what happened.
Speaker 1: The whole Charlie, you will never take care of anybody,
Speaker 1: or trying to take care of various people is very
Speaker 1: parenting coded because yes, you know, Claire will soon be
Speaker 1: charged with taking care of a little person. Yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: is it easy to screw that up?
Speaker 2: Yes, but I am not convinced that Charlie is going
Speaker 2: to be the best.
Speaker 1: Woll But it's like the worst thing that could possibly
Speaker 1: happen is happened to be responsible for taking care of somebody.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jack is responsible for taking all care of
Speaker 1: all of them apparently. And it's not going so great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Michael just has Walt again not going so great?
Speaker 1: It's so great Bryan was supposed to take care of
Speaker 1: Walt not going so great.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's just like there's Charlie is not the
Speaker 1: only person not doing such a great job of taking
Speaker 1: care of anybody. He's probably done a little better than
Speaker 1: some of the other ones. Sawyer is just taking care
Speaker 1: of himself. But that mostly makes him Why would you
Speaker 1: give that man a gun? I don't understand the thinking
Speaker 1: here other than that he's above a certain line in
Speaker 1: the cast.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I guess they just all assume that he
Speaker 2: knows how to use it.
Speaker 1: Although I didn't point it out, let's give him a gun.
Speaker 2: As you pointed out, he didn't do a good job
Speaker 2: with it when he the first time around with the.
Speaker 1: Marsians, and it's like they totally don't trust him. Why
Speaker 1: although it turned out he had one anyway, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah he did like, oh you need another gun?
Speaker 1: Day?
Speaker 2: I got one of those, he did, you know?
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, there's Jack's thing of saying, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to put a gun in untrained hands, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: how trained are your hands?
Speaker 2: Chacked?
Speaker 1: Do you do a lot of shooting back in your
Speaker 1: life as a.
Speaker 2: Doctor, they teach you that all about that in med school.
Speaker 1: Right, that's right, here's that old scalpet. And oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, please go to target practice. Yeah you know,
Speaker 1: if things get slow, you can go shoot somebody and
Speaker 1: then operate on them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, drop up some business there you go.
Speaker 1: Oh and Boone is no longer making any effort to
Speaker 1: take care of Shannon, which is a good thing. Shannon
Speaker 1: seems to be doing just my I guess say is
Speaker 1: taking care of her now? Yeah, Jack is Jack is
Speaker 1: still Island Papa. But is Locke is closing in?
Speaker 2: Yes, Locke has given him a run thrust money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, he's making some bad decisions. So if
Speaker 1: if Lock makes a good one, yep yep. But so
Speaker 1: they did not do a good job but taking care
Speaker 1: of Steve slash Scott so.
Speaker 2: RP.
Speaker 1: Does this guy even have Does anybody even have that
Speaker 1: on their IMDb resume? I should look that up. Is
Speaker 1: just a stunt random stunt person here look dead. Yes,
Speaker 1: we didn't even get to see him getting attacked. He's
Speaker 1: just a body on the beach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was Boone's fault.
Speaker 1: An anonymous character screw debt. Yes, oh it wasn't Boone's fault.
Speaker 2: Oh well, Boone was supposed to be watching, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but they didn't. But he can't. I know, it all
Speaker 2: came in.
Speaker 1: From the water, so he was vincent that that tripped
Speaker 1: the trap boom. It was sleeping at the time. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure about this plan because basically this involves all
Speaker 1: the strongest and most protective guys in your group are
Speaker 1: going to stay up all night, right, so that this
Speaker 1: is not sustainable first thing in the morning, but anytime
Speaker 1: during the day, this camp is going to be defenseless.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Are they not putting up traps during the day too?
Speaker 1: They think this guy is not going to come in daylight?
Speaker 1: How he's not scared of these people. No, I'm a
Speaker 1: little scared of Charlie apparently. But and Jack, you know.
Speaker 1: But oh well, cousin of Tom Cruise, farewell the end.
Speaker 1: I think you are well and truly dead.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did they take the body with them and bury it someplace.
Speaker 2: They have dead?
Speaker 1: Did they?
Speaker 2: They have quite a there's a little cemetery going at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 1: I just I would not even trust trained surgeon Jack
Speaker 1: to know whether somebody's actually dead. He's he's a guy
Speaker 1: you want to like cut up into little pieces and
Speaker 1: distribute at various parts of the other. It's like a
Speaker 1: soap opera. Oh he's just shot to death. Oh he
Speaker 1: could be back. But yeah, well, there we are. Another
Speaker 1: another trip to the jungle, another random death, another fistfight,
Speaker 1: another episode of Lost. Wish we could flip to the
Speaker 1: end on this one, actually a half flipped to that.
Speaker 2: That's a long way to go.
Speaker 1: I do not remember every page. However, it's become clear
Speaker 1: that I do not remember every page, right, but your
Speaker 1: general plot?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, well, so next Tuesday we will continue with season one,
Speaker 1: episode sixteen of Lost Outlaws, which apparently is a Sawyer episode,
Speaker 1: because curious about that guy? What's going on with that guy?
Speaker 1: Never mind the hatch and the evil others and the
Speaker 1: French lady and the various romances going on and the
Speaker 1: uh imminent childbirth and the imminent childbirth and all that.
Speaker 1: Never what's what that guy? I'm not quite sure I
Speaker 1: got it the last time? Can we?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: We will see you back here tomorrow to discuss only
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