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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Kaplis, and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 1>give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,

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<v Speaker 1>and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. True Americans across

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<v Speaker 1>party lines, we don't sacrifice the lives of our children

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<v Speaker 1>to political ideology. That is the American way. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>is the left is acting in a fundamentally Unamerican way.

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<v Speaker 1>They are each and every day knowingly, deliberately, unnecessarily risking

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of our children in schools is a sacrifice

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<v Speaker 1>to their leftist ideology. And we at the latest example yesterday, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the leftist adamantly apposed to good guys and girls with

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<v Speaker 1>guns in schools. They would much rather have the students

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<v Speaker 1>just sit there, absolutely at the mercy of the bad

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<v Speaker 1>guys with guns when they come to kill them all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the way it is. That's the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>the left. We see it over and over again. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we get today's installment right where we learned that this

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<v Speaker 1>cowardly murderer in Georgia had been on the radar. He

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<v Speaker 1>had made it clear he had an active interest in

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<v Speaker 1>school shootings. But he was left in the mainstream population.

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<v Speaker 1>And you would be I know, the words overused. You

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<v Speaker 1>would be stunned to know how many Colorado school districts

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<v Speaker 1>have that as their policy, even after I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a suspicion. You know, dude, there's something wrong over there.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you got to follow up on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But even after they have determined gone through the process

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<v Speaker 1>and determined a student to be a danger to the

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<v Speaker 1>other students, So many Colorado school districts, as a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of policy, leave them there, leave the student who has

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<v Speaker 1>been determined to be dangerous to the others in the

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<v Speaker 1>school out of this bizarre, crazy, suicidal commitment to far

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<v Speaker 1>left ideology. Oh, it would be inequitable to take that

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<v Speaker 1>to be dangerous student of school because he deserves an

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<v Speaker 1>education too. I mean, that's how far gone they are.

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<v Speaker 1>But more importantly, it's how little they care about your child.

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<v Speaker 1>And this comes back to what and I won't call

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<v Speaker 1>it Democrat because a ninety nine point nine percent of

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<v Speaker 1>all of my extended family members outside of Colorado or Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>probably one hundred percent. And they're the best, care most caring,

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<v Speaker 1>patriotic people. You ever meet. But here's the point. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that the left right, now, that the left that

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<v Speaker 1>controls the Democratic Party, literally it just doesn't care about

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<v Speaker 1>human life. It doesn't have the same value because this

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<v Speaker 1>and you're probably thinking, no, it's impossible, but that's because

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<v Speaker 1>you were raised. You were raised in a traditional American way,

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<v Speaker 1>where the idea is that each and every one of

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<v Speaker 1>us have this fundamental human worth and value and dignity.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a traditional American view. It's certainly at the

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<v Speaker 1>core of Christianity and some other religions. But you got

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<v Speaker 1>to understand the people who control the Democratic Party. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>these are secular far leftists who do not have that

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<v Speaker 1>view of humans. They don't have that view of human life.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't believe in the inherent value and dignity of

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<v Speaker 1>each human life. They believe in the collective. So they

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<v Speaker 1>are absolutely fine there is a very acceptable casualty rate

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<v Speaker 1>as long as they're not the casualty, very acceptable casualty

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<v Speaker 1>rate of innocent lives lost as long as it advances

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<v Speaker 1>the leftist agenda. So that's the fundamental disconnect. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>big choice in this election. Now, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other choices to be made in this election. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the biggest because it permeates so many different policy issues. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're on the left right now, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>you don't see individual human lives as having intrinsic importance value. Worse,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're not a gift from God, etc. If

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<v Speaker 1>you just view okay, that's just another life form. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course you know, of course you don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>opening border and leaving it wide open because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>care at all about the carnage. You don't care at

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<v Speaker 1>all if you have this secular leftist view about all

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<v Speaker 1>these young girls being raped on the way up to

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<v Speaker 1>the southern border as they try to come into the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, or their moms or their dads being killed

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<v Speaker 1>on the way up. If you have a secular leftist view,

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't care about that. It's an acceptable casualty

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<v Speaker 1>rate to get a big influx of Democratic votes and

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<v Speaker 1>get a permanent majority. And you sure as heck don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about apartment complexes being taken over by Venezuelan gangs

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<v Speaker 1>and aurora, or all the carnage on our roadways where

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<v Speaker 1>each and each and every week we have people whose

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<v Speaker 1>lives are shattered forever, their kids lose their mom or

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<v Speaker 1>their dad, the husband, their wife because of someone who

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been in the country, who then kills somebody

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<v Speaker 1>on the roadway. You don't care about any of this

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<v Speaker 1>carnage if you're a secular leftist, because you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the same view of the value of human life. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I know we're all talking about life in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the abortion issue because it's the most graphic right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the left is just it's killing six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand girls a year, a year, and it's it. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about those human lives lost because again, it

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<v Speaker 1>fuels their political machine, which brings us to a text

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you, Texter. I appreciate this, and I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>the chance to talk about it again. Texter says Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't care about accents. I want to know how

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<v Speaker 1>you square your affection for Donald J. Trump with his

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<v Speaker 1>flip flopping on abortion. You may have addressed it and

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<v Speaker 1>I missed it. I did address it, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to address it again in many, many times because I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's absolutely critical for pro lifers like myself to

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<v Speaker 1>fully appreciate that this is the easiest decision any of

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<v Speaker 1>us will ever have to make if if your vote

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<v Speaker 1>is motivated by saving innocent lives as mine is. At

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<v Speaker 1>that point, it could be and easier choice. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>literally the candidate of death. You've got Kamala Harris, who

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<v Speaker 1>could not be more dedicated to devoted to maximizing and

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<v Speaker 1>advancing the number of abortions, the availability of a legal

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<v Speaker 1>right to slaughter that child up to the instant the

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<v Speaker 1>child is delivered from the birth canal. So you compare that,

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<v Speaker 1>You compare that. That's where Kamala Harris is. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Polis is, That's where John Hickenlooper is. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>they all are, and all of them want to take

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<v Speaker 1>this issue away from you. They want to take it

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<v Speaker 1>away from the voter in the states, all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>All of them want Rollbeck in the constitution. You compare

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<v Speaker 1>that to Donald Trump, who wants to leave the issue

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<v Speaker 1>to the voters and give the voters a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>protect these babies through the democratic process. That's the easiest

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<v Speaker 1>choice you're ever going to have. And that's without even

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<v Speaker 1>getting into other ways other policy issues that Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>infinitely better on. So this is an easy choice. Do

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<v Speaker 1>I wish Donald Trump was my late mom? Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish he had the same pro life used as

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<v Speaker 1>my late mom, who I consider to be a founder

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<v Speaker 1>of the pro life movement, But he isn't. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said before in sixteen, my bet then and

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<v Speaker 1>my bet now is that Donald Trump is at heart

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<v Speaker 1>his personal views. I've always believed he's pro choice, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care about any of that. As long as

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<v Speaker 1>he's acting pro life, I don't care if his pro

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<v Speaker 1>life actions are motivated by political expedients. I don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about that. All I care about is saving babies, and

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<v Speaker 1>so as long as he's doing the things necessary to

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<v Speaker 1>save babies, I'm voting for. So do I like it

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<v Speaker 1>when he comes out and talks about using this preposterous, bizarre,

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<v Speaker 1>dishonest language of the left reproductive freedom. No, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And I don't like when he opposes Florida's law,

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<v Speaker 1>which he's I mean, he's going to vote against this

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<v Speaker 1>insane law allowing abortion up till birth. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like when he opposed the six weeks et cetera. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, in the end, it still remains the

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<v Speaker 1>easiest choice ever. And the other thing i'd respectfully suggest

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<v Speaker 1>to pro lifers who are understandably disturbed by some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things Trump has said on life lately. Is if

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<v Speaker 1>you do not vote for Trump, and this isn't met

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<v Speaker 1>as some kind of threat, obviously right, It couldn't be,

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<v Speaker 1>and it wouldn't be. That's not who I am, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd have no ability to threaten you, and I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to. I'm just pointing out a truth, and let

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<v Speaker 1>me apply it to myself, not you. It'll sound better

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<v Speaker 1>that way. If I don't vote for Donald Trump, if

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<v Speaker 1>I Daniel J. Kaplis, who hasn't been called that since

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was a live If I don't vote for

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, I am complicit in the evil that will

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<v Speaker 1>result from a Harris administration. Is that simple? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to do my little part to stop

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<v Speaker 1>it and I didn't, So thank you, Texter? Eight fi

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<v Speaker 1>five where's your five? Eight two five five the number

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back. What do you make of Putin

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<v Speaker 1>coming out today? Starting with the point Putin is Satan, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's evil incarnate on the face of the earth. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you make of Putin coming out and saying he

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<v Speaker 1>wants Kamala Harris to be president? You're on the Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 2>And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Demilitarizing are our schools and taking police officers out of schools?

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<v Speaker 1>Got to tell you, and I don't mean to be critical,

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<v Speaker 1>right because it's easy from the comfort of a radio

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<v Speaker 1>studio to judge a political campaign the right in the

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<v Speaker 1>throes of everything. But I'm sorry, this is not rocket science.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The Trump campaigns starting last night and today

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<v Speaker 1>should have been hammering that sound. Kamala Harris wants school

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<v Speaker 1>resource officers out. If it hadn't been for that resource

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<v Speaker 1>officer in Georgia, many more would have been killed. She

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<v Speaker 1>should have been hammered on that today. It is one

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<v Speaker 1>thousand percent legitimate. It is a fundamental difference between the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them. Eight five to five for zero five

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<v Speaker 1>A two five to five the number. Glad you are here.

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<v Speaker 1>Cannot wait for the event next Tuesday night. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>call it a debate because ABC is going to protect

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<v Speaker 1>her to the hill. But Ryan, before we get in

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff, did you see the Harris campaign saying today that,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, these debate rules are not settled, because ABC

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<v Speaker 1>has assured the Harris campaign they may change the rules

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the debate.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you think they're just trying to save face the

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<v Speaker 4>Harris campaign with that because they got totally stood.

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<v Speaker 1>Up at the prom there? Maybe? But I think the

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<v Speaker 1>other very real possibility is ABC listen. ABC is part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Harris campaign, right, I mean, that's not rhetorical.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know as a practical matter that's true. So

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<v Speaker 1>we know that they go in, as we've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about for a while, they go in absolutely determined and

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<v Speaker 1>certain to protect her from herself and from Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>from tough questions. So how are they going to do that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they will ask her tough questions, which will be

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<v Speaker 1>meaningless because they won't pursue her for the answer. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>get away. They'll let her get away with a non answer,

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<v Speaker 1>So the original question doesn't matter. It's the follow up

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not going to pin her down. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest way they're going to protect her. Now, other

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<v Speaker 1>ways they're going to protect her, right, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>can fully expect that if it turns into the situation

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<v Speaker 1>that she's terrified of, where Trump is chirping at her

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<v Speaker 1>while his mic is off and it's throwing her off

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously I'm sure she has certain skills, but she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have the think on your feet skills. That's clear, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to do one, not even a real interview

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<v Speaker 1>So I think she's terrified of Trump chirping at her

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<v Speaker 1>So I wouldn't be at all surprised if that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't necessarily mean that Trump doing it tactically,

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<v Speaker 1>be standing there, lying through her teeth. Right, Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>things about him and otherwise that aren't true. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>human nature to want to say something. So if that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump talking while his mic is off, I'll bet you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bet your steak right now. Oh that ABC either

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<v Speaker 1>want our viewers to know that, you know, mister Trump

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<v Speaker 2>I think that would be fine and whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that viewers and voters would respond that negatively.

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<v Speaker 4>If Kamal was standing there clearly lying about Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 4>like suckers and losers, let's just go with that one.

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<v Speaker 4>If he pipes them and goes, no, that's false. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a different matter altogether. But what I'm interested to Dan,

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<v Speaker 4>I've heard of repeated occasions now Donald Trump basically lavish praise.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes I used to call him fake Tapa, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was good. Jake Tapper, he did a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>For one reason, they wanted Biden o. That's why they

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<v Speaker 4>That's beside the point that I'm making right now, which

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<v Speaker 4>the moderators to be viewed fairly by Trump, if they

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<v Speaker 4>would like that, if Ja Kapper or Dana Bash enjoy

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<v Speaker 4>But Lindsay Davis is a mark. She is a lost

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<v Speaker 2>I have some hope for that. At least.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely disagree. And here's why ABC. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>ABC is owned by Disney, right to start with, Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the Lindsay Davis connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Even forget all that for a second. Forget all that

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<v Speaker 1>What Mirror and Lindsay know is that if they are

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<v Speaker 1>perceived as having failed to stop Trump, they are dead

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<v Speaker 1>They can walk into a party, people will walk to

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<v Speaker 1>media didn't go after Tapper and Bash is they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>Biden out. They wanted Biden out, and Tapper and Bash

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<v Speaker 1>help get them out. I mean, look at what happened

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<v Speaker 1>just just forfeited her journalistic credibility by running complete cover

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<v Speaker 1>for Harris that they even buried half the interview they

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<v Speaker 1>only aired sixteen minutes. So that's what's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the line for these two so called moderators, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have one mission going into that, right, because they're

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<v Speaker 1>motivated by self interest. That's your point, right, Ryan, They're

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<v Speaker 1>motivated by self interest, and their survival in that profession

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<v Speaker 1>depends upon the profession viewing them as helping Harris defeat Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>So what you're saying is that it's okay that Bash

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it was a coincidence? I know you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>But anybody think it was a coincidence that the second

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<v Speaker 1>that debate ended, every single one of those lefty networks,

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<v Speaker 1>was all anticipated. Now, hey, if he had a good night,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have taken a different line. But Tepper and

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<v Speaker 1>And then Harris, you can see now that she is

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<v Speaker 1>certain to be their kendidate. There's no way to dispose

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<v Speaker 1>Walls I'm not so sure about, because they could get

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<v Speaker 1>possibility they dump Walls and bring in Shapiro.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to go on the less bad scale here,

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<v Speaker 4>but if we compare David muirr okay, I have a

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<v Speaker 4>Welker NBC, who Trump praised in the last series of

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<v Speaker 4>debates in twenty twenty that she did a good job.

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<v Speaker 4>Nora O'Donnell for CBS. Of those three, is David near

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<v Speaker 4>the least bad?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll find out, right, because listen, that's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful things about life is there are these surprises. Because

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then, somebody who you would not expected

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<v Speaker 1>from decides they're going to be about something bigger than themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to be about honor, they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>about truth, they're going to be about principle. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>expecting that from your but we may get surprised. Now

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the spectrum, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Wallace, who really did such a grave disservice to America, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and humiliated himself in the profession when he actively protected

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<v Speaker 1>Biden in that debate that he did and shut down

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<v Speaker 1>he shut down this very legitimate line of questioning from Trump. Yeah. So, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're right, because if it was an honest, fair,

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<v Speaker 1>level playing field on Tuesday night, the race is certainly

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<v Speaker 1>that so only to Quebec. Among other things, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how Trump can still win. Andy Cam, you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Registered voters in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania believe that they

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<v Speaker 3>would be financially better off if Trump wins.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you explain that. I'm going to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Careful because we're talking about vot registered voters. We're talking

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<v Speaker 5>a candidate. I got to be mindful of the Hatch

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<v Speaker 5>Act and so can't speak to that specific.

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<v Speaker 1>It just goes out like that. Right, we'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>the separate issue of what do you do when, as

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying for a long time, this nation truly

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<v Speaker 1>does not have a functioning president. But we'll get back

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<v Speaker 1>to that merrily. Llery Slate kind enough to join us

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<v Speaker 1>from Alliance Defending Freedom and we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>a very important lawsuit out of jeffco. But let me

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<v Speaker 1>say first that Alliance Defending Freedom is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most important forces for good in America. And please do

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<v Speaker 1>take a second check out their website. Decide if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to send them five bucks or if you're a gazillionaire,

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<v Speaker 1>five million, Because if you care about your religious freedom,

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<v Speaker 1>freedom of speech, et cetera, you want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>hard work in the trenches to preserve that and a

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<v Speaker 1>so much they get tired of winning. Mallory, welcome to

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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you for that lovely introduction. Dan I'm so

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<v Speaker 3>glad to be with you today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you. And do you get tired of winning?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we honestly just want to approach every single

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<v Speaker 1>No, well said, and so I'll brag for them. They win, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And when it's your freedom of speech, your religious liberty

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<v Speaker 1>on the line, you need to win. They win. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to this Colorado case. Denver Post headline Colorado

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this case really is about parental rights at its base,

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<v Speaker 3>most simple level. It's about the right of parents to

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<v Speaker 1>And Melie please tell people in a little more detail

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<v Speaker 1>what happened here and why Alliance Defending Freedom is lending

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<v Speaker 1>its considerable firepower to this case. The importance of the

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<v Speaker 1>issue at state.

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<v Speaker 3>This has a really critical issue. We were first contacted

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<v Speaker 3>by a local Jessco family, Joe and Serena Wales, over

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<v Speaker 3>Their fifth grade daughter went on the Jessco Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 3>Philadelphia trip, which is kind of a rite of pals

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<v Speaker 3>for a lot of kids, you know, to go to DC.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were told that she would be rooming with

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<v Speaker 1>And the school knowingly put her in that position.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the school's explicit policy is to room all children,

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<v Speaker 1>How is that not criminal? And I understand you're not

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing a criminal case, you're not a DA, But how

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<v Speaker 1>is that not criminal child abuse?

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<v Speaker 3>It's certainly a violation of constitutional rights of the First Amendment,

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<v Speaker 3>the fourteenth Amendment. And that's really what our clients are

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<v Speaker 3>And we wrote a couple of letters to them earlier

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<v Speaker 1>See and Mellory slate with us from Alliance Defending Freedom.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the way you guys approached it. You weren't

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<v Speaker 1>trying to play gotcha and just go file a lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>and everything else. You gave them a chance to fix

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<v Speaker 1>it and they wouldn't. So where does it go from

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<v Speaker 1>here in the court system? What do you think the

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<v Speaker 3>So we just filed this week and so Jessco has

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<v Speaker 3>been notified and now has twenty one days where they

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<v Speaker 3>emotion and will really go from there. But the key

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<v Speaker 3>They need to know that the school district right now

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<v Speaker 3>not based on sex. And that's explicitly important for outdoor lab,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a really big program there in Jessco where

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<v Speaker 3>all sixth graders as part of the actual curriculum, go

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<v Speaker 3>up into the mountains with no communication with parents and

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<v Speaker 3>are roomed in cabins. But the problem is they're roomed

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<v Speaker 3>not just by gender identity for the other sixth grade students,

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<v Speaker 3>but also for the high school dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>No, oh, my lord, seriously, and I know it's I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get a da on and find out why

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't criminal, why there aren't criminal charges here. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know enough about criminal law. I can't sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and say that they're violating some criminal law. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want somebody who knows to tell me, because it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like it should be. It seems like the law

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<v Speaker 1>should prevent this. And I understand constitutionally it does, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to stand up and vindicate those rights. But

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<v Speaker 1>at any age high school seniors, but an eleven year

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<v Speaker 1>old daughter in this case, right, yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Or are the whales there? It was their eleven year

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<v Speaker 3>old daughter, and then the Rollers, Brett and Suzanne Roller,

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<v Speaker 3>it was their eleven year old son who went to

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<v Speaker 3>outdoor lab and had an eighteen year old female counselor

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<v Speaker 3>who identified as non binary put in his cabin who

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<v Speaker 3>was not only you know, sleeping right next to him,

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<v Speaker 3>but was told to supervise his showers. And the boys

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<v Speaker 3>were so uncomfortable with this that they all got to

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<v Speaker 3>together and decided to refuse to shower together even though

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<v Speaker 3>they're als in the woods, because they're so uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love them.

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<v Speaker 3>It's understandable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just one of the worst things I've ever heard here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm so glad you guys are in the case

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<v Speaker 1>because listen, I mean, everybody knows. For those who aren't

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<v Speaker 1>into this whole legal world stuff, Alliance Defending Freedom, they're

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<v Speaker 1>the big leagues. They are as good as it gets.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact you guys are on this case, that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to say something powerful to everybody involved. Final question,

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<v Speaker 1>Mellory slate, which is to be wasting this money as

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Coiz that should be spent on students, To be

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<v Speaker 1>wasting this money on attorney's fees and costs to try

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<v Speaker 1>to defend the indefensible. What do you think the chances

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<v Speaker 1>are they just come to their senses and change the

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<v Speaker 1>policy before they pour all this money into a losing costs.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's what we would really love. We want

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<v Speaker 3>to work with school districts to protect all children. Our goal.

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<v Speaker 3>We want to protect all children, and I would hope

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<v Speaker 3>that Jeff Coo would want to do that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're simply asking for some type of accommodation or

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<v Speaker 3>an opt out or an opt into this policy where

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<v Speaker 3>all students can be protected and feel comfortable on all

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<v Speaker 3>school trips. So I really hope that that jesfco will

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<v Speaker 3>reconsider and be willing to work with parents in its district.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've got thirty seconds for this question. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to answer unless you want to. But because it's

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<v Speaker 1>personal about you, I know that all these Alliance Defending

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom lawyers are superstars who could be out making megabucks

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<v Speaker 1>at any of the big national powerhouse firms. So why

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<v Speaker 1>did you choose to work for Alliance Defending Freedom instead?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, that's a great question, And truly my dream

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<v Speaker 3>was always to work at Alliance Defending Freedom because it's

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<v Speaker 3>an organization that I watched for years before I worked

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<v Speaker 3>here and saw that they would always take the high road.

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<v Speaker 3>They would do it the right way, they would do

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<v Speaker 3>things with integrity and honor, and would be kind to

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<v Speaker 3>everybody through the process, but would do it with excellence,

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<v Speaker 3>and to me, the Constitution has been under a pat

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<v Speaker 3>for many years now, and we are slowly seeing our

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<v Speaker 3>rights shipping away by various various different governments and bureaucrats

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<v Speaker 3>throughout our country. And we have to stand up, and

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<v Speaker 3>we have to stand up together, and you know, at

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<v Speaker 3>ADF we do it in a way that is hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>honoring to God and honoring to our communities. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to be a part of that, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>been really blessed to get to work at ADF, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's truly an organization that I cherish, regardless of whether

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<v Speaker 3>I work here.

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<v Speaker 1>Or not doing the work of angels. Thank you, Melori Slate,

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<v Speaker 1>and good luck with the case.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having us on our pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, and again for those who happen to work

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<v Speaker 1>in a different industry, within the legal industry, as you

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<v Speaker 1>probably know, you have these big powerhouse law firms that

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<v Speaker 1>world's called big Law, and they pay unimaginable amounts of

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<v Speaker 1>money to kids just coming right out of law school.

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<v Speaker 1>But only the very best in terms of grades and

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<v Speaker 1>everything else can get hired at those big firms. And

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<v Speaker 1>these lawyers at Alliance Defending Freedom, you know, these are

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<v Speaker 1>the lawyers who could get hired at those mega firms,

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<v Speaker 1>at those mega salaries, but they decide to go out

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<v Speaker 1>and fight the good fight instead. I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>just the best of at least our little profession. Eight

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<v Speaker 1>five zero five eight two five five the number when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back, very very interesting, encouraging news for President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and by extension America, you're on the Dan Kapla Show.

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<v Speaker 2>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Interrupted a money making endeavored money?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you placing bets on the air?

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<v Speaker 6>Down?

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<v Speaker 1>Are? I never tell people what I bet on for

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<v Speaker 1>this reason? Okay, And I'm listening at five bucks here

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<v Speaker 1>and they're okay, it's just it's kind of fun. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I don't tell people is I have a

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<v Speaker 1>shockingly good track record.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you don't have to tell us which way you bet.

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<v Speaker 4>You can just say, hey, I'm betting on the Packers

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<v Speaker 4>Eagles game tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I'm not encouraging gambling, by the way, but

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<v Speaker 1>since it is legal in Coloradon, I would find it

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<v Speaker 1>very surprising if somebody who liked to spend a dollar

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then on a game wasn't on this

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<v Speaker 1>game tonight, This this Kansas City Baltimore game, because to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there are no sure things there, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a yeah. I'm just not going there because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a sensitive guy and I would literally lose sleep if

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<v Speaker 1>I thought somebody he lost money because they followed my

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<v Speaker 1>lead and fire in sports, But I would lose sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to go there.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Lamar Jackson's going to surprise you tonight, Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>That would not surprise me. That would not surprise It

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<v Speaker 1>would surprise me if Lamar Jackson was not victorious tonight. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And I like Kansas City a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I thought you were going the other way on this,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But anyway, here a couple of things. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get you some good news here, as we love

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<v Speaker 1>to do every day. But this guy, Nate Silver, You're

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<v Speaker 1>probably familiar with him if you listen to a show

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<v Speaker 1>like this. He comes from the left. He found it

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<v Speaker 1>five thirty eight, sold it for a bunch of money

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<v Speaker 1>to ABC. But he still has his own, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>political consulting, polling, type of political analysis agency. So he

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<v Speaker 1>does this highly watched and highly regarded daily rating in

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<v Speaker 1>the presidential race, and a couple of weeks ago he

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<v Speaker 1>had Harris up almost sixty forty right when she was

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<v Speaker 1>on that sugar high. And then as of today his

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<v Speaker 1>odds and we're not talking about poll results, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about him giving you the percentage chance of victory based

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<v Speaker 1>on a combination of polling data and other factors that

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<v Speaker 1>he analyzes. But as of today it's almost flipped completely.

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<v Speaker 1>He is Trump at fifty eight point two percent chance

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<v Speaker 1>of victory and Harris at forty one point six. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's significant and encouraging. I would though, caution people, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy's a businessman, right and he's a media figure.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can be certain of one thing that those

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<v Speaker 1>numbers are soon going to start to move in Harris's favor,

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<v Speaker 1>probably after the debate, because she'll look better and expected,

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<v Speaker 1>she'll sound better than expected. ABC will protect her. She's

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<v Speaker 1>already been essentially declared the winner. You can bet those

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<v Speaker 1>headlines have been written, and then his numbers will start

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<v Speaker 1>to move in her favor. But wanted to let you

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<v Speaker 1>know what his numbers at today. But then Ryan, he

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<v Speaker 1>had this interesting observation. He said, he is and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time to get in all the details, but

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<v Speaker 1>he is ripping every day now on Harris's team, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of his tweets was, Harris should do more interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>But her campaign is being run by people with PTSD

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<v Speaker 1>over Biden's inability to speak extemporaneously. No, no, it's being

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<v Speaker 1>run by people who know she does not have the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to do that. We the good but anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to let people know that good news. Say what

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<v Speaker 1>do you make of this Putin saying he prefers Harris.

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<v Speaker 6>It was it used to be Joe Biden, but now

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<v Speaker 6>he is not participating in the election campaign, and he

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<v Speaker 6>recommended to all his allies to support miss Harris. So

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<v Speaker 6>that is what we are going to do. So it

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<v Speaker 6>was well he said that we should. That is why

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<v Speaker 6>we should also do that. Well, she'll laugh, she's laughing.

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<v Speaker 6>She'll love is so fascinating. It means that everything is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, listen, Putin is Satan. He is the devil on earth.

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<v Speaker 1>He's evil incarnate. So I don't put any stock in

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<v Speaker 1>anything he says about anything. This we know though. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>if if someone is evil and they're a dictator like Putin,

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<v Speaker 1>they want Kamala Harris because they will feast on her

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<v Speaker 1>evil in the world right now. You know Ji Kim

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<v Speaker 1>jong un, either Tolas, et cetera. It's like a pack

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<v Speaker 1>of wolves surrounding a newborn puppy. You know they're salivating

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<v Speaker 1>at the thought of Harris. And the proof is simple.

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<v Speaker 1>When Trump was president, Putin did not go into Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>Under Obama took Crimea, and under Biden, he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>take the whole thing. I mean, it could not be

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<v Speaker 1>more obvious. I want to get to this great question

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<v Speaker 1>raised by a Texter Patty Dan. I understand your position

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<v Speaker 1>on Trump and his abortion views. I don't get how

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't feel the same way about Joe o'deans run

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<v Speaker 1>for Senate. I don't have time to go into it

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<v Speaker 1>fully here, but here's the point, the key distinction. And

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<v Speaker 1>I talked at length about why, as a dedicated pro lifer,

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<v Speaker 1>I am fully behind Trump despite concerns about some recent statements,

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<v Speaker 1>and why if you're voting to save innocent lives, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a no brainer and easy pick Trump over Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the point with oday Oday, just like Kamala,

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<v Speaker 1>Harris wanted to take abortion policy away from the people.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted rowe codified Trump wants the people to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to decide that policy critical difference. Ryan, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Kelly join us tomorrow
