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Speaker 1: I'm just Jackson jewis Well. Of course, l fifteen leads

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and producer of The Jesse Jackson Junior Show, president and

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Fat Meat Fridays. She's a graduate of Hampton University with

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has also earned her Masters of Arts in Theology and

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Social Justice from Princeton Theological Seminary. She co produced the

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Emmy Award nominated and documentary documentary Hampton University One of

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with a billet on the Billboard. Gina, Welcome forward to

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The Jesse Jackson Junior Show, Fat Meat Fridays and the

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j Lunch Club. Thank God it is Friday. That Friday.

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It's almost as if we talked just last week. It

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feels like a continuation the weeks are moving very very quickly.

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Speaker 2: Well, time is moving swiftly. I don't know if January

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has ever gone this fast.

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Speaker 3: It's really really something. It's also a slog when one

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considers all of the politics that's taking place. Gina, your

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thoughts on the roundup of our week here on the

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Speaker 2: Well, going all the way back to last week, Really,

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I have had a great time, maybe more so than

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you don't appreciate, you don't know what you got till

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it's gone. And our show has decidedly taken on a

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lot of Martin Luther King. We spent more than his

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birthday or even the national holiday recognition of his birthday.

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I mean decidedly every day. I asked you and our

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guests to focus on Martin Luther King, and you have

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done a tremendous job with bringing our attention to beyond

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Vietnam a speech that he wrote a year to the

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day of his assassination, and you'll break down of it.

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The discussions that you've had with people who are very

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cognizant of the social justice space, but in particular, there

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have been some conversations and you and Johnny Mack, who

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study Doctor King each and every week. Certainly we have

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a need for that right now, and that is the

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part of our history that we must turn to and

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Speaker 1: You know, I give it some reflection in this first

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segment of our show. Nineteen sixty seven must have been

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a pivotal year in the life of Martin Luther King Junior.

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I was born in nineteen sixty five, and so at

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age two and a few months, I can only help

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with what I've come to understand, that the April fourth,

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nineteen sixty seven speech Beyond Vietnam a time to break

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the silence, and the fact that he wrote the book

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Where do We Go from Here? Chaos or Community serves

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as important data points in going forward for those of

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Chaos or Community? The question before us today is whether

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or not we are closer to community or we are

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closer to absolute global chaos. I was watching the leadership

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is increasingly clear that they are accepting the idea that

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Greenland is less secure today than it was before Donald

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Vladimir Lensky is treated as a stepchild. The President of

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the United States kidnapped the president of Venezuela, Jared Kushner,

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a peace board. We'll talk about more of that will

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to come forward on KBLA Talk fifteen eighty. I'm Jesse

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Jackson Junior. More when we come forward on KBLA in

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your show, It's happening Fridays with our creator, Gina Towns,

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and our very special guest in this hour is doctor

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nik Cordelai Corte. Not only does he continue his work

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transformational leaders. His work bridges the worlds of media public

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service and education, living proof of what it means to

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lead with both head and heart. A proud graduate of

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several years of experience as a public affairs professional, doctor

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his academic and leader ship home. Doctor Corte, Doctor Q me,

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Speaker 4: The Jesse Jackson. I'm on the Jesse Jackson Junior Show.

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It's Friday. I couldn't be happier. How you doing, brother man?

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Speaker 1: I love you very much and there's absolutely nothing you

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can do about it. That's right, Ney, Listen. I am

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particularly concerned about the headlines over the last two weeks,

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Let me just read them briefly. The US pulls out

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of the World Health Organization. The United States formally completed

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its withdrawal from WHO on Thursday, after a year after

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President Donald Trump, he simply essentially put the cabash on

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it USA. Today, Americans say the United States is out

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of control, and not just the liberals are saying it.

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Al Jazeera says the US to withdraw from dozens of

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UN international organizations. The Wall Street Journal echoes that Trump

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pulls out of more than thirty UN bodies, BBC Trump

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withdraws from US key climate treaties and dozens of other groups.

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catastrophe that is taking place at the same time that

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the administration is withdrawing from international cooperation because, as John F.

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are all more Doctor Q, where is this? Where are

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we going? In the post celebration of Martin Luther King Junior,

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his ninety seventh birthday was January fifteenth. Chaos or community?

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you for the question, Jesse Junior. I think

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there are examples of both. There are examples of chaos

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in community. You've just laid out the kind of chaos

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that we're seeing, particularly abroad, but the chaos that we're

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also seeing right here across the country, we're seeing facilitated

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by ICE. For example, I am still shaken and stirred

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having learned about UH civil rights attorney and activists uh

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Nikema Levy Armstrong not only being arrested at the hands

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of the US Department of Justice for exercising her First

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Amendment right UH in and in in peacefully protesting UH

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be doubling as a local director of ICE. To add

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insult to injury, we saw that the White House just

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yesterday shared an altered photo of an arrested UH Nikema

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Levy Armstrong. What do we call that? We call that propaganda,

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you know, you got to say it playing uh And

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and so we are seeing a lot of seeds of

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division that are being sown. We're seeing, uh the kind

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of chaos that is intended to leave us feeling disoriented

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and feeling powerless, and feeling like what it is that

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part of Project twenty twenty five, that all that is inevitable.

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the anecdote to this. We cannot make it to the

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other side of this chaos by ourselves. And so I've

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been heartened to see so many activists from across the

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country lock arms and declare that what's happened to folks

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like Nikeema Levy Armstrong and other peaceful protesters, other legal observers,

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other American citizens, the trampling of folks civil rights and

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civil liberty. Not only is it wrong, but you have

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people taking to the streets saying not on my watch.

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sustain through election Day in order to bring this country

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Speaker 1: You know, I saw the altered photo of sister Armstrong

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side by side with the dignity that she accepted and

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did not if you will resist arrest. As a result

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of that protest, we also saw some levels of the

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exact same attempt to disgrace if you will, to humiliate

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don Lemon. I believe in the same particular event, And

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traditionally prided itself in the idea that even those in

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captivity are innocent until proven guilty. This kind of altering

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of the even prosecutorial environment where even a criminal defendant,

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an alleged criminal defendant, has to even prove in court

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that hey, the documents that you're showing or the evidence

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that you're presenting has been altered to reflect not the

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truth of my First Amendment rights, but the inherent insults

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that are associated with the process. Uh that if in

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fact you are proven innocent, the social media space, the government,

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with the government's support, participates in a denigration of you

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that we have hold deers Americans. Your thought about that

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Speaker 4: Well, let me just say, speaking of feeling shaken and surred,

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Trump Department of Justice to trample on the right to

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a free press. And thank goodness that this federal magistrate

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judge rejected the Justice Department's initial attempt to bring charges

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against our friend, our brother, journalist Don Lemon, for appearing

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alongside protesters who went into a Minnesota church over the weekend.

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the law, that that invites the Department of Justice, the

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US Department of Justice, to file charges. It's it's it's

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hard to not believe that Don Lemon's black, proudly black,

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proudly gay self didn't factor into his targeting. You know,

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it's it's hard. It's hard to believe, you know, that

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someone who has demonstrated an ability to speak truth to power, right,

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it's it's hard to believe that this Justice Department didn't

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seek to make an example out of Don Lemon and

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and to send a signal to you, to send a

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signal to me that telling the truth, speaking the truth

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to the masses, streaming the truth to the masses will

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be met with a federal government weaponized by this Trump

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administration's ultimate aims. You know, it is it is. It

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shocks the conscience that there are a number of folks

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It shocks the content that Democrats, Republicans, independents can't lock

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arms and say this is a bridge too far, right,

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what else is it going to take? But look, you know,

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our legal system, Uh it worked, uh in this case,

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you know, But I fear for the other independent journalists

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that are out there that don't have the same muscle

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as legacy corporate media might have. I shudder at what

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last thing I'll add is you know, of course, I'm

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sure you're aware that TikTok is now officially under US ownership.

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of service, looking at the terms of service uh as

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a part of what TikTok says that they're offering. I

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looking at the community guidelines in my time off last night,

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labeling when AI or editing is used to realistically depict

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people or scenes. We don't allow AI generated content that

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misleads about matters of public importance or that harms individuals.

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Will look with the White House just put out yesterday

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on those media channels with Nakeema Levy Armstrong right, and

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so part of the fight ahead as folks that refuse

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to spiral ind chaos and folks that embrace the tenets

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of a beloved community. Part of the work that we

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hold these organizations to what they say on paper. They're

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Speaker 1: You know, I just want to add, because I know

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of the United States the second time, there was an

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because on the face of the matter, it's wrong. The

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prosecutions of Letitia James, the prosecution of the prosecutors, the

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care in which Jack Smith had to prepare and present

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his testimony to avoid to the extent that he may avoid,

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the kind of contempt from Congress that that others have received.

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can't begin to tell you just how much this costs

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to preserve your name, to preserve the dignity of your work,

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to not become a mean, to not become part of

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we need people to be taken seriously, we need to

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convey serious messages. But then when we find ourselves having

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to mortgage our homes, to pay for lawyers, to lose

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everything that we've ever gained, just to stay free, just

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to maintain the integrity of who we are, this is

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the era that we are clearly entering. Me and I

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Speaker 2: Well, you started out listing off a number of things,

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our withdrawal from the world stage, our participation in a

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beloved community around the world. And this really follows leadership,

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because there's a leadership that took us to these organizations,

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who the World Health Organization is of particular interest as

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isolation period, but certainly this is not what Martin Luther

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King envisioned or thought about us. So domestically, we have

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look at things in an isolated fashion. But all of

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history and an ideology that we have to fight for.

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Speaker 1: You know, when I saw some of the memes of

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Doctor King during the holiday period and leading up to

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people taking pictures of him who were not there at

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certain periods of his history, and even for the King

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family to respond to say leave my father, Bernie said

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out of the memes, out of the jokes. And the

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idea of protecting one's legacy in this context is it

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Jesse Jackson Junior Show, Gina Towns. Gina, welcome forward to

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the show. Hie Jesse, and our very special guest in

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our White House correspondent at KBLA. Doctor Q, let me

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our happenings and black history on this particular date, Trump's

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peace board at Dovels at the Dovels Economic Summit looks

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like a real estate deal. I've always believed in a

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two state solution in the Gaza strip, but when you

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see the images and I challenge our listeners to google

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peace Board, and to google New Gaza. Google New Gaza

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and see the renderings of new Gaza. And I'm wondering

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in this moment, doctor Q, how are the poor people

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of Gaza going to be able to afford to live

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in this arrangement? Why are they not part of the

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so called peace board, Doctor Q.

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Speaker 4: I think those are questions that need answers, and I

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think it's pretty apparent. You know, there's a book that

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I require that my students at Pepperdine University read over

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the course of the semester. It's called Design Justice. And

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one of the principles that the authors about at length

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in that book is nothing for us without us, nothing

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for us without us. And this is an organizing principle

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that some of the most seasoned organizers have adhered to.

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There doesn't seem to be much evidence of that. It

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is deeply troubling that this plan to rebuild Gaza, this

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plan to erect the Middle East Riviera, that it doesn't

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seem to have any Palestinians that are playing a principal

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role in this, that have a principal voice in this. Yes,

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we're seeing folks from the Arab world that are a

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part of this but you know, these are folks that

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are doing their own bidding, and so this is something

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that I think people of conscience are going to have

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to watch very very closely. This is going to require

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courage people to speak truth to power, and you know,

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as not just Democrats, but anybody that's in opposition to this,

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as they get out on the campaign trail, it's important

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to remind people about the power of our example. Yes,

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we need to bring prices down here at home, but

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we can't underestimate the power of America's example abroad for

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good and for evil, for good, you know, and for

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the good of the narrow self interest of a privileged few.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking in this moment when doctor King says that

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it's a time to break the silence, that a betrayal

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of silence is taking place. As the renderings are obviously

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of a futuristic gaza strip that mirrors flying into Manhattan

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in fact a more modern Manhattan, or flying into Dubai,

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but it simply does not refer the education level the

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oppression that the Palestinian people have confronted for decades, and

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it seems to me that they have no role in

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the future of Jared Kushner's conceptual designs or what can

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only be seen as a multi trillion dollar development a

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riviera in the Gaza Strip.

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Speaker 2: Gina, your thoughts, I think the whole thing is just

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very bothersome in general, with the Gaza Strip, because I

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had one of those old Bibles as a child where

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Israel what is now known as Israel's Palestine, and that

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name was changed and those people were moved pushed down

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into the Gods Strip. And so now after a culpable

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year of unmitigated bombing, death and destruction, it's time to rebuild.

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knew from the time that Jared Kushner went that there

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was a deal afoot, and certainly it does not include

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the people who have been occupying that land. But the

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fact is that those people were occupying another land even

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before we got to this point.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Q. I can't help but reflect in this moment

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that the sixty seven thousand people in this conflict are

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going to be a people without a home, that they

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are going to be potentially refugees in their own land.

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but the presence of love and the presence of justice.

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These are also sustaining principles that we believe in organizing

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because the end that we seek is pre existent in

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the means, meaning we give some thought to the end

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that we want to accomplish towards this idea of a

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beloved community. I don't see that taking place here.

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It is worth noting that four Palestinians have been killed

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in Gods that as Trump has launched this Board of Peace,

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it sounds like, you know, America is committed to living

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in an alternative universe. Al Jazeera reporting that a number

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of medical sources are saying that at least four people

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have been killed in the Palestinian civil defense. They reported

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that on the death of an infant from hypothermia and

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Central Gaza. While President Trump has unveiled his Board of Peace,

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they're not experiencing peace there. And I think it's important

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that people really understand this, that, you know, to create

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this delusion that we're creating this body that is committed

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to ushering in an era of peace in the region.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 4: At some point we're gonna have to reconcile that, because

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the region if we don't reconcile that. To think that

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the young people that are coming up right now that

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are exposed to all of this, the young people that

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are coming up that are living in poverty right now,

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the young people that will be forced to live a

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life as refugees, young people who may never go back

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to the place the only place that they've known is

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their home. To think that people just pack up and

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move and don't have a word to say about it,

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don't have a feeling about it, don't have a trauma

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experience related to it, that is divorced from reality. And

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we better get this reality check sooner than later so

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as to give the region a chance to have the

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kind of security that we all hope that it would have,

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to have a kind of peace that Trump is trying

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to create this illusion of At the moment.

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this is Fat Meat Fridays with Gina Towns, our regular contributor,

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and our very special guest in this hour is none

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other than our White House correspondent, Doctor Cortelai Nie Cordlai

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Corte More. We come forward on kV Late Talk fifteen eighty.

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I'm Jesse Jackson Junior. Welcome forward to the Jesse Jackson

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I want to welcome our regular contributor on Fat Meat Fridays,

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Miss Gina Towns, the creator of the Jesse Jackson Junior Show. Gina,

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Welcome forward, Gy Jesse, Hey, Ny Hey, Doctor Anna or Ty,

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our White House correspondent, is also joining us. Uh. In

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our final segment, I'd like you, if you don't mind,

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doctor Q, for you to transition and pivot the conversation

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to We've seen chaos in the world, but we're also

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seeing chaos domestically. Nothing quite like what's taking place in Minneapolis,

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Minnesota have I ever seen in my sixty years. What

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are you hearing from Capitol Hill to the White House

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on the nature of the chaos and what it could

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mean for the midterms.

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Speaker 4: Well, just yesterday I had a chance to be in

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conversation with Bishop Joseph W. Tulton. He is the founder

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of Interconnected Justice. He's also a former Senior Advisor for

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Religious and Global Affairs in the US State Department, and

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his body of work has really focused on the rise

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of white Christian nationalism, and so part of what we

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are seeing on the ground in places like Minneapolis, you know,

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are folks peddling in that white nationalism, white Christian nationalism.

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I think, you know, the focal point of the DOJ

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arrest of Nakeema Levy Armstrong, civil rights attorney and activists

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who showed up at a church in Minneapolis where the

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pastor is alleged to be doubling as acting director of

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ICE in the in the area, and I think it

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raises some really significant questions in terms of the conflict

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of interest. You know, there are people that go to

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the church seeking refuge. It's not unusual for churches to

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be thought of as sanctuaries or you know, folks who

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are down on their luck, for folks that are in

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need of support and services. And so the fact that

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this alleged connection between this acting ICE director and his

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role as the pastor of this church, it is heavily problematic,

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and this is just the story that we have learned about.

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It makes you wonder how many other churches across America

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have pastors or assistant pastors, deacons, deaconesses that are somehow,

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you know, tied into the ICE apparatus. You might remember,

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due to the passage of the so called Big Beautiful Bill,

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ICE has more funding now than they have ever had

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in their history, and so they have so much money

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to throw at not just official ICE agents, but folks

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willing to cooperate with ICE. And that is deeply troubling.

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folks in DC and places like Minneapolis and out in

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the field and places across the country.

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Speaker 2: Gina, Sure, they defunded SNAP and defunded health care for

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Americans who needed in order to build this budget. And

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so this is what we have now. And I want

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to go back to what you said, because I saw

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Don when he landed in Minneapolis, and there was a

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guy who spoke to him there and the guy said,

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I'm so glad you're here and basically said, you know,

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be careful, and Don was like, well, what's that about?

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And he says, well, things are really not what people

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don't understand what's going on here. It's not like maybe

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it was in Los Angeles or DC, or even Chicago

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for that matter. This is this is really a lot

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and people are scared. So, you know, I was just

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as you guys were talking. This militarization and focus on

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materialism is certainly something that doctor King prophetically talked about.

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And every so often there's a rise in this. It's

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almost like we have to go back, you know, every

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sixty years, every hundred years, and you know, fight this

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battle all over again. And I don't know that it

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will ever stop. What do you think me?

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Speaker 4: You know, look, I think it is a righteous fight.

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It is a fight that we have been fighting for

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centuries in this country biblically speaking, even longer than that.

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It is a righteous fight. But speaking of righteous fight,

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I just want to connect the dots for a second,

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because there's a whole conversation happening around qualified immunity. And

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you might remember that the president and Vice president have

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said and then they didn't say, and then they said

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that they supported full immunity for ice officers. Well, I

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just want to remind our audience of leaders learners and

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listeners that back in twenty twenty, when folks had taken

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to the streets in places like Minneapolis and Los Angeles

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and Chicago and DC and New York and so many

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places across the country calling for justice, calling for the

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passage of the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act, I

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just want to remind folks that one of the major

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components of that bill was reforming qualified immunity for officers.

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There are some that wanted to get rid of it altogether.

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There are some that wanted to lower the threshold by

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which it could apply. But imagine, imagine if we had

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gotten that done in twenty twenty. Imagine what tools local

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law enforcement and other agencies would have to work with

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to rein in these ice officers off the rails. And

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so this is just a reminder that there's sometimes there's

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legislation out there. And you know this better than most

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Jesse Jackson Junior, as a former member of Congress and

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soon to be member of Congress again, you know this

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better than anybody else. That there are folks that somehow

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get in their head that there are pieces of legislation

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that narrowly only benefit black people and seem to forget

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the history that we've had in this country of fighting

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for legislation that not just moves our people forward closer

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to liberation, but moves America forward. And so if America

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celebrates it's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, commemorates it, we

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need to do a look back and a look forward.

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We need to learn from what we didn't get done

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into and how it's playing out in the now, so

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that we can stop it from happening ever again.

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Speaker 1: Now that's a word of hope if I ever heard one,

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that doesn't get much clearer than what doctor Q said.

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Nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act didn't just benefit black people.

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It also led to the Americans with Disability Act. It

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also led to the civil right to marriage for two

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persons who are in love and care deeply and profoundly

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for each other. It led to access for the disabled

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to get into buildings and to build ramps and to

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build sidewalks that allow people to traverse and take advantage

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of their basic civil and human rights. It's given rights

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to veterans and to even white men. It was illegal

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to be a police officer in Alabama and Mississippi and

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certainly a state trooper if you weren't at least six

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foot two. So even short white men were discriminated against

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without the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four. When

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you think about this question of qualified immunity, doctor Q,

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you hit its spot on the head. They shot that

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woman in her face, and they also now have warrantless

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searches of people's homes, meaning they can kick in the

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door not only of black and brown people, but they

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can kick in the doors of white folks. Doctor King, American.

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Speaker 4: It's an American and we need to call it out

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before our nation succumbs to this perversion of our constitution.

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Speaker 1: Our very special guest has been doctor Nie Cordelaike Corte,

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and you're listening to the Jesse Jackson Junior Show and

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Fat Met Fridays with Gina Towns More. When we come

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