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Speaker 2: You have a communist running and you shouldn't vote for him.
He's a disaster. He's leading. He's got the Democrat nomination
because that shows you where the Democrats have gone. He
actually wants to take over the grocery stores of John Cassimetidi,
a great guy, a rich guy, grocer, does a good job.
Wants to take over. He actually called me at the
end of the day. He's concerned his stores are going
to be taken from him and they won't be run
like John runs. And believe me, he runs a good operation.
But he actually said he wants to run his own
grocery stores. Now, this is a man who's not very
capable in my opinion, other than he's got a good
line of bulls and he's convinced them to go with him. Now,
as you know Cuomo, who does have capabilities running, but
he got knocked out and now they're running. As you
have Eric Adams, the current mayor, you have Cuomo, and you.
Speaker 4: Have Curtis Leewell.
Speaker 2: Curtis runs every four years. He seems to be a
fixture on the running scale. But you know it's I'm
not getting involved, but I can tell you this. I
used to say, we will not ever be a socialist country, right, Well,
I'll say it again. We're not going to have If
a communist gets elected to run New York, it can
never be the same. But we have tremendous power at
the White House to run places when we have to.
Speaker 4: What does that mean?
Speaker 6: Oh, that was from today's cabinet meeting. Welcome, ladies and
gentlemen to the fastest hour in American media. I'm James
goldin Boy. Welcome to bothn Early's Rush Hour, the Tuesday
edition from that Cabinet meeting, today we learned other things,
including a.
Speaker 4: Story that has surfaced.
Speaker 6: Yes, yesterday went big and I elected to ignore it,
and I'm going to continue ignoring it after after I
just do these little two items. The question of the
Epstein tapes that have been released, this whole day of
video that has been really and the Justice Department now saying,
oh there was no, it.
Speaker 4: Wasn't a suicide, and.
Speaker 6: No, nobody went in that cell. And know there was
never a client's list after of course the client list
was on Pambundi's desk.
Speaker 4: Supposedly, yes, Carlos, yes, yes, What does Princess Die think
about it?
Speaker 6: What does Princess Die think about See? Listen, gentlemen, this
is what it's like to be me. I begin to
show talking about a story, and it's just like who
gives a ratch? Ask what you think? What does Princess
Die think about this? We'll have to ask her. You
can ask her. We can find out what Princess Died
thinks about it. Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Just go ahead. I guess it doesn't matter what I
think about it, Jez Louise.
Speaker 6: Anyway, so I was at the yes he is still
on herson, so yes, anyway, a minute is missing from it.
And I was watching that story develop. I happen to
know some of the people that broke that story, and
I was on a thread, a text thread, as that
story was developing. And then boom it hit, and then
it exploded that there's a missing from the town. And
I didn't I didn't mention any of it yesterday. But
when Trump was asked about the Epstein thing today, he
expressed the Hill says exasperation. You're still talking about Jeffrey Epstein.
This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking We
have Texas, we have this, we have all these things,
and people are still talking about this guy, this creep.
It's unbelievable. I mean, I can't believe you're asking a
question on Epstein when we have some of the greatest
success also, this tragedy, what happened in Texas. It just
seems like a desecration to be focused on this Epstein story.
But then Pam Bondi answered questions, and of course up comes, well,
what happened to the missing minute in this video, this
twenty four hour video that was reallyased, there's a minute missing,
and of course that was seized upon like O MG,
we have the smoking gun. There's a minute gone from
the video tape, Attorney General Pambondi on Tuesday, so to
tamp down outrage on the right over the Justice Department's
recent memo on disgrace Financier and James o'lad and accused
pedophile and other things and heavy Democrat donor let's not
forget crat mega oh yeah, Democrat Party, mega donor thunder
Backbone Democrat Party Jeffrey Epstein. The Justice Department and the
FBI released roughly eleven hour roughly eleven hour video recorded
outside of Epstein's prison celldor to dispel claims that he did.
Speaker 4: Not die by sweetside.
Speaker 6: Some on the far right have seized on the time
stamps in the video, which skip from eleven fifty eight
pm to midnight. It's not just one minute, it's two minutes.
It's eleven fifty eight and then next thing you know,
it's midnight, dag Gonet and Pam Bondi said during the
cabinet meeting, the video is not conclusive, but the evidence
to it was showing he what oh, But the evidence
prior to it showed he committed suicide. Now, she says,
for that minute that was off the counter. Every night
the video is reset, and every one of these videos
that comes from the prison system should have the same
missing two minutes when the video systems are reset.
Speaker 4: So we will.
Speaker 6: Look to see if that is the case when they
come back and say there's more video, these videos have whatever.
I don't even want to know. It's it's it's I
don't care what they say. I don't care if the
videos are changed every night at the same time and
there are too many gaps on all of them. This
is never going you know that this is always going
to be in conspiracy land, period, period. And do I
have a point of view on it? My point of
view now is, frankly, I don't even want to say it.
I don't even There are so many other things right
now that I'm dealing with. Jeffrey Epps. Did Vince Foster
shoot himself with a gun that had no fingerprints? Because
Vince who's Vince Foster, Oh, Carlos, Carlos, Carlos, Vince Foster.
You'd have to go back to the Clinton years. Let
me just explain real briefly, Vince Foster tied up with
Hillary one of the Hillary bigwig confidant in the Clinton
White House all of a sudden ends up debted in
Fort Marcy Park in Maryland. Huge controversy. Yeah, and he
was debted. Apparently he shot himself, didn't have one any gloves,
but there were no fingerprints on the gun. So he
managed to shoot himself with the gun and not leave
fingerprints on the gun. And what we were told at
the time was that the fingerprints melted into snow. I
mean in the sun, the sun, because in the park
there was sunlight, and the sunlight got rid of the fingerprints.
And that was Vince Foster. That's where this is going.
And I don't even really want to relive the Vince
Foster thing, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 6: There have been a lot of unfortunate endings with people
that have served or known the Clintons in some capacity.
In fact, once upon a time there was a list
of all of the people who met unfortunate fates and
hence the term came from Vince Foster on this was
Vince Foster is claimed to be one one of the
first Arkansides. An Arkanside. That's because when Bill Clinton was
governor of Arkansas and then through the White House years,
many people are coincided. They they are coincided, they were debted,
And I'm not going to go into any details with
this stuff because I'm not going to get caught up
in the conspiracy loop loop. So we have covered that
about as much as I'm going to cover it, unless,
of course, Princess di has new information and another point
of view, and you, of course want to know what
Princess died and thinks of it, and who cares what
James thinks of it? Okay, moving on, my friends, The
federal government has been in of course, this horry story
in Texas is still continuing right now. The last count
of deaths I had is at one hundred and nine,
and there are still many people missing. The left has
not quieted down over it. We will on the other
side of the commercial break. We're gonna go to commercials now, Carlos,
because on the other side of the commercial break, coming back,
we will let you hear voices from the left, our
friends on the left, as their continued rants over Texas
and in the news immigration big today, Karen Bass and
her challenge to the federal government. We have all of
that and more so stay where you are. The Tuesday
edition of Posty's Rush.
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Speaker 6: My friend, we have voices today from your fellow leftists
or your leftist or the leftist in America.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say it because y'all scary as and I
don't give a damn. THEMB little girls, them people died
because of racism, not politics.
Speaker 4: Boom, I said it. I don't give a.
Speaker 7: And am I said, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope no
because more y T people will have to d I
E in order for mother to what c A R E.
I said, what the I said? I don't get a
in minds or here with me? We wrote, we voted
the correct way.
Speaker 3: You reap what you so.
Speaker 8: Just the night.
Speaker 7: Before the flash flood happened, y'all were okay with mother
being stripped away from their mother and families and never
seeing them again. People being deported, y'all were okay with that.
Be okay with not finding Sarah lu be okay with
not finding Billy, be okay, We'll never seeing them again.
Keep that same energy, because I am all.
Speaker 9: I'm here for it.
Speaker 7: I am so here for it because I've been reading
the comments and saying.
Speaker 10: Y'all didn't give up one those brown people.
Speaker 7: Be sorry that it's white people now, But that's gonna happen.
This is gonna be repetitive cycle, gonna happen over and
over and over and over and over and over and
over again until y'all get tired. Racism cost draw more
than y'all thought. Racism wrote. What's that the line? Racism
wrote a check that your ass couldn't cash. Yeah, racism
wrote to check that your ass couldn't cash.
Speaker 8: M And guess who's paying for it?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, For any of you people that want to say, oh, well,
children don't vote, referring to these magites and their children
that died in them floods, their parents voted for them
to die. So take that up with the parents. Bombard
them with that. Yeah, doesn't that make more sense? Ain't
that what they say about the immigrants They subjected their
kids to this? Well guess what then, mollifers that died
in the.
Speaker 8: Flood subjected their kids to danger.
Speaker 9: Yeah, what's the difference?
Speaker 11: So wait, Texas has been cheering on ice all across
the country and now y'all want sympathy for a flood.
Speaker 12: Have you lost your mind?
Speaker 4: People? I don't feel sorry for you.
Speaker 11: I feel sorry for the mom that had that four
year old ripped from her arms and will have to
hear her baby scream in her head for the rest
of her life.
Speaker 4: That's who I feel bad for. Mago.
Speaker 11: You guys, I voted to take this national weather service away.
You guys voted and cheered on dose, shutting everything down.
Speaker 9: I don't care.
Speaker 4: About you people.
Speaker 11: I hope you suffer worse than anyone. I hope the
parents of these kids regret every day voting for Donald Trump,
and I don't want to hear we don't know who
they voted for. It's Texas and it's a camp. And
the fact that y'all even want empathy tells me everything, Like, sure,
I absolutely hate that kids were lost today and otherwives,
but you guys have cheered on everybody else's demise. Maybe
it's all time we get some popcorn and watch yours.
Speaker 6: We should have popcorn and watch the tragedy popcorn, he says. Oh,
my friends, this is where some people are at in America.
James Golden, it is Bostingly his Rush Hour.
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Speaker 6: All right, folks, before the break, we heard from some
of the TDS voters, some of the maggahete of voters. Now,
let's hear from some of their leaders. An example two
of them dealing with the situation in Texas. The first
Stacy Abrams, followed by Eric Swalwell.
Speaker 8: What just happened in Texas?
Speaker 13: The fact that they slashed the National Weather Service, Whether
or not that was the direct approximate cause of those deaths,
The fact that we're having that conversation is the issue.
The fact that we aren't sure is the problem, and
so we need to hold to what we deserve. We
should not be dissuaded, especially as black women, as women
of colors, people of color, we should not be convinced
that we don't have power. They are mad at us
for a reason. They are enough of us that we
can change the outcome of elections, but also change the
outcome of power.
Speaker 14: I do think as lawmakers we have a responsibility that
though to look at did cuts affect the ability for
folks on the ground and at the camp to have
an earlier, better warning. But this is really going to
should we just attack government for government's sake? And for
the last six months we've seen an effort to undermine
the hard work of government workers, whether it's air traffic
controllers who keep planes from colliding in the air or
FEMA first responders who go into the harshest hit places
in America. But if the president's press secretary doesn't like
the way this is being described, I would recommend that
the president go to Texas and talk to the families
and show leadership, because that's what presidents do.
Speaker 15: He is going to go, I mean, he did say
he is going to go. I think the question is, then,
how do you I don't know if it's if it's
threading the needle. I don't know if it's saying we
can have two thoughts in our head at the same time,
but how do you not let this become political but
still push for answers?
Speaker 14: Right again, my job is to make sure that we
put resources in place to keep people safe. Our primary
job as lawmakers is the safety of the public, and
if there's a possibility that cuts at that agency affected
the safety of those girls. We should understand that and
we should do better as we make funding decisions in
the future. But again, right now, you know they're still
looking for missing people. I understand the sensitivity around the issue.
And again, first and foremost, I'm a parent and this
is just heartbreaking and no parent wants to have to
think that this could happen when the kid those camp.
So lawmakers should get serious about resources we put in place.
Speaker 6: The Democrats are determined that they are going to make
a case out of no case. We've already demonstrated, ladies
and gentlemen did well. No cuts that affected this. There
were no cuts that affected the national in this time.
In fact, the National Weather Service was over had brought
in extra people to make sure that they were fully staffed.
Speaker 4: The alerts went.
Speaker 6: Out, that's not even in question. So this is all
the Democrats trying to stir up a scandal when there
is just tragedy, and a massive tragedy. And instead they're
looking for something, anything, so that they can try to
gain points politically with the people. And you are hearing
from some of them who have nothing but hatred on
their minds. This is a disgraceful moment for Democrats and
liberals in this country. It is an utter disgrace what
these people are saying, what they're doing, what their leaders
are saying, what they're trying to do. It's a disgrace,
but that won't stop them from being who they are.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 6: What else is an disgrace. A disgrace is the way
that liberals are still still going on and on about immigration.
We have a few to play for you. US Acting
Attorney Nancy Larson spoke about something that happened in Texas
and let's just here it cut one, Carlos. Let's just
hear the report from again, US Acting Attorney Nancy Larson.
Speaker 4: We're here to.
Speaker 1: Tell you that late at night on July fourth, Friday night,
at approximately ten thirty seven pm, at the Prairieland Ice
Detention Center in Alvaredo, Texas, ten to twelve individuals dressed
in black military style clothing began shooting fireworks and engaging
in acts of vandalism at the facility.
Speaker 8: And this was part of an organized attack.
Speaker 1: Today, my office has charged ten individuals with three counts
of attempted murder of a federal officer. Each of the
ten are also charged with three counts of discharging a
firearm in relation to a crime of violence. Each of
these defendants faces a mandatory prison term of ten years
and up to life in prison. An additional co conspirator
was charged with obstruction of justice and conspiracy for attempting
to conceal and destroy evidence in relation to the attack,
and he faces up to ten years in prison.
Speaker 8: Let's discuss the incident.
Speaker 1: It was a planned ambush with the intent to kill
ICE corrections officers. Make no mistake, this was not a
so called peaceful protest.
Speaker 8: It was indeed an ambush.
Speaker 6: Now what happened there. You heard of missing the fireworks,
but the fireworks weren't all They were delizing that they
were writing such such things as ice pig around the
detention center and parking lot. They were interceded upon by
correctional officers, but two of these suspects later fired twenty
to thirty rounds them fire at federal and local officers,
wounding one Alvareto officer in the neck. It was a
planned ambush, and that's what she was saying. They were
trying to lure them out. It was a planned ambush
with the intent to kill ICE Corrections officers. Police found
two AR fifteens, used AR fifteen casings, body armor, plate carriers,
loaded magazines near the scene, ten arrests, and then one
accomplished for trying to get rid of the evidence.
Speaker 4: Where's all the stuff coming from?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, ICE had a raid near at MacArthur
Park in California.
Speaker 4: Los Angeles.
Speaker 6: Cut to Karen Bass remarks that she went there to
try to intercede.
Speaker 4: This is what she said out.
Speaker 16: So this morning it was frightening in Los Angeles to
see tanks essentially rolling Ontogarthur Park. I watched a video
a little later to see the troops along with mounted patrols,
marching through information at MacArthur Park where the children that
were there for their summer day camp had to leave
and go into a building. So they had to hide
the children because they didn't want the children to see
that the park was being taken over by ICE. It
was an egregious show of force. I have no idea
what their purpose was. I don't even think they detained
anybody at this point in time. I think they just
want to sew terror and fear around our city. And
every now and then, the military, the Custom and Border
Patrol or some other federal office shows up. Los Angeles
was peaceful before June fifth.
Speaker 8: We need to go back to that.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 6: So once again she's calling basically those people enforcing immigration
law terrorists, and she's been doing that. Now she says
she doesn't know there weren't anything. They weren't. There wasn't
anything in there. I want you to listen to this
cut nine, a woman who happens to be there. It
might explain why there were quote unquote no arrest. Cut
number nine.
Speaker 17: All right, I am in MacArthur Park. As you can see,
it's completely cleared out. Ice in DHS just completely raided
the park, over one hundred and fifty officers authority personnel.
They had fully militarized vehicles, horses, They were armed to
the Guild activists came in through here fifteen minutes before
they raided the park and cleared as many people out.
Speaker 8: As they could.
Speaker 17: It's a crazy scene here. Basically people chased them away
so they didn't actually get to take anyone away.
Speaker 9: They used it as a photo op.
Speaker 6: Want you to hear that park activists came into the
park fifteen minutes before ICE arrived and got people out.
What does that tell you it was a leak of
the operation. Activists came into the Bible. Play that from
the beginning and listen to that. So she's saying very
clearly that before the raid began, people were warned one
more time from the beginning.
Speaker 17: All right, I am in MacArthur Park. As you can see,
it's completely cleared out. Ice in DHS just completely raided
the park, over one hundred and fifty officers authority personnel.
They had fully militarized vehicles, horses, they were armed to
the guild. Activists came in through here fifteen minutes before
they raided the park and cleared as many people out
as they could. It's a crazy scene.
Speaker 6: Here, yep, exactly, and there needs to be there need
to be some answers about that in that part of
the mission. Meanwhile, the Customs and Border Patrol Sector Chief
Greg Bonvio Bovino, basically as one Karen Bass went to
MacArthur Park to complain to and he had some remarks
cut three after she left, and this is what the
chief said.
Speaker 18: The federal government is not leaving LA. I don't work
for Karen Bass. The federal government doesn't work for Karen Bass.
We're going to be here till that missions accomplished. As
I said, and I better get used to us now,
because this is going to be normal very soon.
Speaker 4: Cut eight.
Speaker 6: This is again the language is being used to describe
what's going on in Los Angeles. This from one of
the activists.
Speaker 10: What's happening here in the city of Los Angeles. We
are the canary in the coal mine. Well, you see
happening in MacArthur Park is coming to you one hundred
and forty billion dollar new budget for ICE. What do
you think that's gonna do. That's gonna transport what's happening
here in our neighborhoods to your front doorsteps.
Speaker 4: So wake up, yeah, wake up.
Speaker 6: Indeed, Stephen Miller and also DHS Secretary Tricia McLachlan had
some words to say about this incident and the way
that ICE is being portrayed. Let's start with Tricia mccolland
cut for.
Speaker 19: I want to ask Karen Bass who is she protecting.
Is the MS thirteen gang members were going after? Is
it the child rapist? Is it the drug traffickers, which
are the violent criminals who are terrorizing Los Angeles streets?
Is she trying to protect because it certainly is not
American citizens or her own constituents. We know that in
the past one hundred and fifty days, under President Trump
and Secretary Nome, we've arrested almost six hundred known or
suspected terrorists two thousand and seven hundred men of trendy Iragua.
And for viewers who are not familiar with trenday Aragua,
they're a vicious, highly sophisticated gang who kills, rapes, and
names Americans for sport. They enrich themselves by sex trafficking
young women. They have walked with impunity on America's streets
for four years and under President Trump, no more, Charlie
tragically is a seven hundred percent increase in assaults against
our ice enforcement officers. They're simply just doing their jobs.
DTS is a law enforcement agency and they are enforcing
the law. And what these Democrat politicians continue to do,
whether it be Karen Bass, Gavin Newsom, Tim Walls or
AOC is they villainize, demonize, and attack our ice enforcement officers.
And they give a free pass and actually egg on
these unhinged lunatics who go after our ice enforcement officers
like you mentioned, these two violent assaults in Texas, we
saw it over the weekend and Portland as well. This
has to stop. It is incumbent upon Democrat leaderships to
call this off as we're seeing open season against our
law enforcement. This administration under President Trump and Secretary Nome,
we are not having it. And if you put a
single hand on our law enforcement, you will be arrested.
You will be prosecuted to the fullest ex sent of
the law.
Speaker 6: Well, the liberals are putting hands on it. Stephen Miller
was on Fox and he had this to say about
what is happening to border patrol, ICE agents, etc.
Speaker 20: There is an insurrectionist movement in the Democratic Party that
is inspiring domestic terrorism against Ice. When you have the
mayor of Los Angeles mobilizing agitators, mobilizing the mob against Ice,
saying that federal law enforcement has to leave her city,
this is a settled constitutional question. Federal law is the
supreme law of the land. You cannot nullify it, you
cannot succeed from it. It is the law of the
United States of America. So these insurrectionist Democrats are every
day engaging in rhetoric incentivizing, that is encouraging, that is
fomenting violent terrorist attacks against ICE and ICE officers, not
only in the shootings that you've seen recently, but ICE
officers are being docked, Their families and children are being threatened,
their addresses are being posted online. They're being subjected to
a campaign of terror by these radical democrats.
Speaker 6: Now, ladies and gentlemen, on a somewhat different note, coming
out of Hollywood, many of you know that there is
a new Superman movie. I guess this is about the
gazillion Superman reboot in the last I don't know, fifteen years.
It's like, how much really another Superman movie? He had
another one? And this guy, James Gunn, another Hollywood type,
was asked about the new Superman movie, which I guess he.
Speaker 4: Whatever. Anyway, here's yeah, he's the filmmaker. Whatever. This is
what he had to say. He cut seven. Uh, mister
Superman movie.
Speaker 12: Is exactly what the movie is about. I think that, like,
we support our people, you know, we love our immigrants,
we love Yes, Superman is an immigrant, and yes, the
people that we support in this country are immigrants. And
if you don't like that, then you're not American people who.
Speaker 6: So I guess unless you he makes no differentiation between
immigrants and illegal immigration. It's fairly easy to hear what
his point was. And you're not an American unless you
agree with him. And mister Superman, the new Superman, the
leftist new I guess immigrant, illegal immigrant Superman. These people
take the joy out of everything everything. James Goldin's thirdly
the Fastest Hour in American Media continues, Don't Go Away.
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Speaker 6: Yes, my friend is just a quick note. The woman
that we played yesterday, that Sadie Charde imitation like that
hateful person, her reverend, her boyfriend is a white guy
reverend giving her racist remarks about white people. It seems
sort of you know, I don't know, but anyway, he's
the senior minister at the First Utarian Universalist Church of Houston,
and he apologized to his congregation for his girlfriend, Sadie Perkins.
I don't know how that's making a relationship go. And
he wanted to make an abundantly clear I apology to
my congregation. I will continue to work to repair the
harm that this incident has caused her comments have caused
harm to many who are experiencing terrible loss and anxiety.
Her comments were not in the spirit of the Unitarian
Universalist values centered around love my congregation and I share. Now,
yesterday I mentioned we had a guy that wanted to
talk about Freedom's it' see I bonic. This is a
guy just sitting on a park bench, just doing it.
Listen to this. I call it ebonic freedom.
Speaker 21: I realized, this is freedom. I've been so stuck in
condition to believe I had to be doing all this
and all that, going so fast to help and get somewhere,
not realizing I was free. I can see here all
day and I have to do I go anywhere I
want to go and do anything I please. That's true freedom,
not just because you gotta have a pocket full of money,
because you gottad a nice car, a nicest crib, you.
Speaker 4: Gotta out of the most.
Speaker 21: Actually being able to slow down in life and see
the trees, hear the birds, listen to the water, watch
the bugs fighting, whatever the But that's true freedom. And
I feel like we be in such a rush to
keep up with what society make us feel like we're
supposed to have, or how far we supposed to be
that we miss life and it really feel good to
experience this. So I hope a lot more people come
out here and like, relax, take a deep breath and
see like you actually okay, life actually ain't that bad
and the damnfowl in as fast as they make it seem.
Speaker 4: Well, that's it for the day, my friends.
Speaker 6: May God bless protect each and every single one of
your your families, your loved ones, loving gratitude for your
being here with me and allowing me to be with you.
God willing, we are all back tomorrow for the onesday
addition to both slim these rush Hour. Until then, my friends,
I bid you, I do.
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