Speaker 1: Broadcasting from Studio A here at Proven Winters Color Choice Shrubs.
Speaker 1: It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella, me,
Speaker 1: Rick Weist, and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson Well.
Speaker 1: The date was July twenty, nineteen sixty nine. To be
Speaker 1: more specific, ten p fifty six pm Eastern daylight time.
Speaker 1: On July twenty, nineteen sixty nine, I was a ten
Speaker 1: year old boy sitting in my parents' living room watching
Speaker 1: a black and white TV that had only three channels
Speaker 1: and rabbit ear and tennas with aluminum foil on them.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, the reception was so bad
Speaker 1: the family would have to change seats now and then
Speaker 1: or raise a leg or an armed to improve the reception.
Speaker 1: But we were watching history, and it's from that day
Speaker 1: forward that I was hooked. When Neil Armstrong stepped off
Speaker 1: the limb with a small step for man and a
Speaker 1: giant leap for mankind, I was moonstruck. And it's not
Speaker 1: just a phase that I'm going through. As a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, you'll find me many evenings in my landscape
Speaker 1: or out on the beach acting just like Jim Lovell
Speaker 1: or Tom Hanks in the Apollo thirteen movie where you
Speaker 1: take your thumb and hold it up to the moon
Speaker 1: and you can cover the moon and realize the distance
Speaker 1: to the Moon and just how absolutely fantastic it is.
Speaker 1: I was hooked. So today we're going to talk about
Speaker 1: moon gardening or moon landscaping and Stacy. This is an
Speaker 1: addiction that I've had since I was a little boy.
Speaker 1: I was an Apollo Space Age boy. Kids that grew
Speaker 1: up in the nineteen sixties were just like the Space Race.
Speaker 1: You had to have a goal, you had to have
Speaker 1: a plan. Many times you make it up as you go,
Speaker 1: and you know, ever had enough time to complete it.
Speaker 1: Those were the three characteristics of Apollo Space Age kids
Speaker 1: and for me when I was a boy back then,
Speaker 1: on Halloween, most of the kids would dress up like astronauts.
Speaker 1: They wanted to be Neil and Buzz and Michael. I
Speaker 1: would dress up like Walter Cronkite. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: Walter Cronkite. He would always end his newscast with that's
Speaker 1: the way it is, and that's the way it was
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna lie. I thought you were gonna say,
Speaker 2: I dressed up as the Moon it was like really
Speaker 2: leading up to saying that you were your Halloween costume
Speaker 2: was the moon itself. Oh no, I feel a little disappointed.
Speaker 1: No, Walter Cronkite, Yeah, the iconic, the iconic newsman. But
Speaker 1: you know, you have to consider that everything was about
Speaker 1: the Moon when I was a kid. Sure, and I
Speaker 1: mean even baseball. When when you look at the phrase moonshot,
Speaker 1: it was not a phrase that was coined for the
Speaker 1: Apollo moon Shot program, but rather for baseball. The Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers, they moved from Brooklyn. They ended up playing
Speaker 1: in the Los Angeles Coliseum, which is designed for football,
Speaker 1: so they had a short left field. They put up
Speaker 1: a big screen, and there was a player by the
Speaker 1: name of Wally Moon. He learned how to hit the
Speaker 1: baseball high in the air and get a home run
Speaker 1: that way. And the well Vin Scully. Vin Scully coined
Speaker 1: that phrase moonshot because of Wally Moon.
Speaker 2: Oh so it wasn't like it went so far it
Speaker 2: could reach the moon, Chris Wally Moon. Well, regardless, I
Speaker 2: think there is so much evidence that our fascination with
Speaker 2: the Moon goes back so much further. One of the
Speaker 2: first films of all time was of course Tripped to
Speaker 2: the Moon by the Lumiera Brothers, which you can see
Speaker 2: on archive dot Org. Are lots of plays online if
Speaker 2: you're interested in old cinema. But it's pretty fascinat to
Speaker 2: think that when that technology came out, one of the
Speaker 2: first things they wanted to do was create this scenario
Speaker 2: where they went to the moon. And because this is
Speaker 2: the gardening simplified show. And I know you want to
Speaker 2: talk about your glass collection and everything else, but you know,
Speaker 2: moon gardens or the idea of viewing the garden or
Speaker 2: viewing the moon from a garden goes way way back
Speaker 2: to ancient China and ancient Japan. And this concept of
Speaker 2: being outside and enjoying the moon and communing with the
Speaker 2: moon and appreciating the moon, it's an ancient kind of topic.
Speaker 2: Now I have to confess for myself, I'm not a
Speaker 2: night owl. No, I'm an early bird, and that makes
Speaker 2: enjoying the moon hard. I can appreciate that it's out there,
Speaker 2: but a lot of times I'm like, this moon is
Speaker 2: really interfering with my sleep.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to offer you some tank a little
Speaker 1: bit and maybe that will change your mind. But yes,
Speaker 1: we're talking about moon landscaping, not gardening by the moon,
Speaker 1: the phases of the moon. And when I start my
Speaker 1: moon garden, I'm gonna call it tranquility base. But you're right.
Speaker 1: They evoke a deep sense of mystery and calm and wonder,
Speaker 1: and we use silvery tones and white flowers kind of
Speaker 1: gives us an escape from life. In essence, we're moonlighting.
Speaker 1: For people who work during the day, a moon garden
Speaker 1: or a moon landscape can be quite a beautiful place
Speaker 1: to get them away from the daily busy life. And
Speaker 1: then we start to put plants in a moon garden,
Speaker 1: like moonflowers, jasmine gardenias, diamond frost, euphorbia. I love panicle
Speaker 1: hydranges in a moon garden. They almost look like command
Speaker 1: modules of the Apollo missions. And believe it or not,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite moon plants evening plants is oregano.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is that Greek oregano. I just let it
Speaker 1: go to flower and hundreds of tiny little star like
Speaker 1: white blooms on my oregano in night. They're fantastic. So
Speaker 1: your moonlighting moon gardens are for people who work during
Speaker 1: the day. By the way, I did drink lots of
Speaker 1: tang when I was a kid, and interestingly enough, Stacy,
Speaker 1: so I have these glasses for our YouTube viewers. Some
Speaker 1: people may recall them. In the sixties, if you'd go
Speaker 1: to a marathon gas station you filled up on gas,
Speaker 1: you'd get one of these souvenir glasses. And I've collected them.
Speaker 1: And then you know, as kids in the nineteen sixties,
Speaker 1: we didn't have water bottles. We drank from the garden hose,
Speaker 1: bacteria and all, and we drank lots of tang. And
Speaker 1: a few years ago on my live radio show, we
Speaker 1: had a call in because we were drinking tang on
Speaker 1: the air, and it just brought back all kinds of
Speaker 1: memories for people. It gave me a terrible stomach. I
Speaker 1: could handle it as a kid, but as an adult,
Speaker 1: I can't drink it anymore. And we came to find
Speaker 1: that not only can you still buy tang, but people
Speaker 1: today use it to clean their dishwashers, run it through
Speaker 1: a full cycle, even to clean the toilet, So tang
Speaker 1: is still around.
Speaker 2: Well, in your defense, Rick, I am going to wager
Speaker 2: that the recipe for tang has changed considerably since either
Speaker 2: you or I were children, So I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's just getting older. But I do want to clarify
Speaker 2: so well, first of all, I think we're going to
Speaker 2: need to clarify for some of our younger listeners, why
Speaker 2: Tang in the Moon is a thing. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: of people would have no idea.
Speaker 1: No, it was buzz Aldron, you know, buzz Aldrin was
Speaker 1: the second man on the Moon. But it just was
Speaker 1: a thing for Apollo astronauts. They just jumped on it.
Speaker 1: They drank Tang. And because the astronauts drank Tang, we
Speaker 1: as kids had to drink Tang because the other alternative
Speaker 1: was again drinking from the garden.
Speaker 2: Well well, even when I was a kid in the
Speaker 2: late seventies and eighties, commercials for Tang still to about
Speaker 2: it being what astronaut's drink. And the other thing I
Speaker 2: want to clarify for everybody is these glasses that you've collected,
Speaker 2: These are not ones that you've bought off of eBay
Speaker 2: or Craigslist or anything like that. These are the ones
Speaker 2: that you collected during while they were actually active.
Speaker 1: Yes, in the nineteen sixties, Marathon gas stations stop in filled.
Speaker 2: The tank and it's interesting that they don't actually have
Speaker 2: any connection to Marathon on them. Because nowadays, no company
Speaker 2: would ever miss that market opportunity to be like, hey,
Speaker 2: don't forget you got this at the Marathon gas station.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Well, moon gardening or moon landscaping, and we'll
Speaker 1: talk about it today. Going to give you a lot
Speaker 1: of ideas for that. Also in segment Foreign, of course,
Speaker 1: Stacey in plants on trial coming up. A website that
Speaker 1: I recommend you go to is timeandate dot com. It's
Speaker 1: that simple timeandate dot com. I have it bookmarked on
Speaker 1: my computer. It gives you the moonrise, the moonset, the
Speaker 1: phase calendar, and you can customize it to your location.
Speaker 1: So I am using that all the time. This is
Speaker 1: not about gardening by the moon, which is kind of
Speaker 1: a farmer's almanac thing. As a matter of fact, it
Speaker 1: was started years and years ago by Ben Franklin who
Speaker 1: helped out colonial gardeners. You know, you have the waxing
Speaker 1: and the waning of the moon, and some feeling that
Speaker 1: at certain points, just as you have with the tides,
Speaker 1: the moon has the ability to gravitationally pull moisture in
Speaker 1: the soil to the surface, causing seeds to germinate better.
Speaker 1: There's all of this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah here, I thought it was just you know, me
Speaker 2: planting too late or too early. But maybe I've been
Speaker 2: missing out on the moon phases all along. But no,
Speaker 2: what we're talking about is the idea of creating an
Speaker 2: atmosphere in your gardener landscape that makes the moon even
Speaker 2: more romantic. Right, That kind of brings out the best
Speaker 2: in the plants, that brings out the best in the moon.
Speaker 2: That is just kind of that ideal romantic summer night
Speaker 2: where the moon is out, the skies are clear, the
Speaker 2: flowers are in bloom, the fragrance is in the air,
Speaker 2: and you just have that memory for life.
Speaker 1: And let's talk about that today. I'm looking forward to this,
Speaker 1: can you tell him? Kind of crazy?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. I've shot so many pictures of
Speaker 1: the moon too. I've got thousands and thousands of them.
Speaker 1: Let me give you a shoot for the moon. Limb
Speaker 1: a rick at night on the moon, I will gaze
Speaker 1: and bask in its magical rays. As Sinatra would sing
Speaker 1: in a tune fly Me to the Moon. I'm just
Speaker 1: going through a phase. My good friend Frank the Crooner,
Speaker 1: sings that song. When I go luner, I listen to
Speaker 1: the song. He sang as I sip on a glass
Speaker 1: of tang. Call me an aging Apollo, age boomer. In
Speaker 1: the evening, I search the skies for the moon's position
Speaker 1: and rise my nightly habit. I can't eat clips. Those
Speaker 1: around me have come to grips, shoot for the moon,
Speaker 1: and don't Apollo see what I did? Then?
Speaker 2: It definitely saw what you did there.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Plants on Trial is next. We'll see what
Speaker 1: Stacy has in mind. Stay tuned to the Gardening Simplified Show.
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Speaker 2: back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where we were talking
Speaker 2: all about enjoying the moon in the garden. And of
Speaker 2: course if you're going to enjoy the moon, it's going
Speaker 2: to be at night. And you know, I was thinking
Speaker 2: as I was preparing for this show, for an awful
Speaker 2: lot of us, especially our friends in hotter climates in
Speaker 2: the summer, nighttime is really the only time you can
Speaker 2: enjoy the garden. You kind of can't help but have
Speaker 2: a moon garden where you can, you know, really see
Speaker 2: the garden at it's best, because in so many areas,
Speaker 2: especially this season, it's just too darn hot any other time,
Speaker 2: you know, and.
Speaker 1: It's just so enjoyable at night. Have everybody put on
Speaker 1: a white shirt, come over, serve white wine.
Speaker 2: Oh it's just yeah, white wine, teg mimosas, Yes, just
Speaker 2: for that. It depends, I guess, on the age of
Speaker 2: your guests.
Speaker 1: I might live on.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so for so many people you're out enjoying
Speaker 2: the garden anyway, So why not choose plants that are
Speaker 2: going to look their best at night when the sun
Speaker 2: goes down, there's usually a cool breeze going, and you know,
Speaker 2: not only is the garden transformed, but the world is
Speaker 2: transformed and you can see things in a much different light,
Speaker 2: so to speak. Now, I know a lot of you
Speaker 2: are sitting there thinking, enjoy the garden at night? On
Speaker 2: what planet? Lady? I have so many mosquitoes that is
Speaker 2: not even remotely, not even remotely a possibility. That's well,
Speaker 2: and for you, I want to just remind you of
Speaker 2: something that we have talked about on the show before,
Speaker 2: and that is the mosquito bucket of doom. It is
Speaker 2: not too late to create a mosquito bucket of doom
Speaker 2: if the mosquitoes are particularly bad in your area. And
Speaker 2: basically what this is is you take a regular old
Speaker 2: bucket or something like that similar vessel, and you put
Speaker 2: some organic matter. It can be grass clippings, it can
Speaker 2: be weeds, it can be fallen leaves, it can be
Speaker 2: a combination of all the above. You want to put
Speaker 2: a couple handsful of those in a bucket, fill the
Speaker 2: bucket halfway to three quarters of the way full of water.
Speaker 2: Let that ferment and get real gross for a couple
Speaker 2: of days. And then you are going to add a
Speaker 2: mosquito dunk, which is a little round pellet type thing.
Speaker 2: You only need about half for a bucket, and that
Speaker 2: has a naturally occurring bacteria that prevents the mosquito larvae
Speaker 2: from developing. So once you put that in there, the
Speaker 2: mosquitoes are like, hey, this is our perfect breeding ground.
Speaker 2: Definitely laying my eggs here. But they do that, and
Speaker 2: then the mosquito dunk prevents the larvae from germinating or
Speaker 2: from you know, going all the way to fruition. So
Speaker 2: this is you don't have to change the water. You
Speaker 2: can actually let this nasty water continue to ferment all
Speaker 2: season and just keep it in that back, shady, long
Speaker 2: grass corner of the garden where the mosquitoes are going anyway,
Speaker 2: and this will severely reduce the number of mosquitos that
Speaker 2: you have as well as if you get your neighbors
Speaker 2: involved a really great way. So we kind of band
Speaker 2: together and non toxic, no spraying, low maintenance way to
Speaker 2: enjoy your garden at night a little bit more. We're
Speaker 2: lucky we don't really have bad mosquitos out here because
Speaker 2: it's so dry, so you know, there's a trade off.
Speaker 2: We have to water a lot, but on the other hand,
Speaker 2: we also don't have a ton of mosquitos, which I
Speaker 2: truly appreciate. But anyway, let's get to the flowers, because
Speaker 2: we are talking about shrubs, flowering shrubs that are perfect
Speaker 2: for enjoying on summer nights, whether the moon is full,
Speaker 2: whether the moon is new, or anywhere in between. These
Speaker 2: are flowering shrubs with mostly white flowers. Because white flowers
Speaker 2: as is well known, kind of have this effect in
Speaker 2: the garden at night where they really shine out and
Speaker 2: they really have a dramatic look, whereas other colors might
Speaker 2: not really be so visible, they might not really pop
Speaker 2: up against you know, all of the foliage and everything
Speaker 2: else going in the garden. White flowers are kind of
Speaker 2: that classic choice. And this is really just a nice
Speaker 2: way to kind of narrow down your choices. You know,
Speaker 2: we hear from so many people they struggle to choose
Speaker 2: plants for a given area, or you know, wondering where
Speaker 2: to start with a new garden, and just simply choosing
Speaker 2: all white flowers, it's a really easy way, always going
Speaker 2: to look lovely, and then you can also just say, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm meant to do that. It's a moon garden and
Speaker 2: that's pretty great. So starting off with the oh soo
Speaker 2: aptly named gats By moon oak leaf hydrange I mean,
Speaker 2: where else could I start? So gats By moon oak
Speaker 2: leaf hydrangea is a mophead oak leaf hydrangea, and these
Speaker 2: are relatively few and far between. Most oak leaf hydrangeas
Speaker 2: are lace caps, which is great for pollinators. But if
Speaker 2: you prefer that big, full look of a mopheaed hydrangea,
Speaker 2: you usually have fairly few choices. Gatsby Moon is that
Speaker 2: rare exception, and they are really big, kind of pillowy
Speaker 2: blooms and they bloom for a long time. So Gatsby
Speaker 2: Moon for us here in Michigan is gonna bloom probably
Speaker 2: mostly late June through late July. Then you know, as
Speaker 2: the weather starts to get hotter and drier, they will
Speaker 2: kind of brown out, but you're still gonna get a
Speaker 2: good month of those big, bright white blooms to enjoy.
Speaker 2: And this is a native hydrangea that is just absolutely beautiful,
Speaker 2: has excellent fall color. So you as always we're looking
Speaker 2: for plants that don't just do one thing. You know,
Speaker 2: we want those beautiful white flowers in summer, but we
Speaker 2: would prefer it if they could do a little bit more.
Speaker 2: And as I often say, oak leaf hydrangeas are really
Speaker 2: the only true four season hydrangea that has something to
Speaker 2: offer in every single season. So really a choice that
Speaker 2: you can't go wrong with. The lace capt varieties that
Speaker 2: we offer like Gatsby Gala, Gatsby Pink, and gats Be
Speaker 2: Globe are all great choices as well, but Gatsby Moon,
Speaker 2: I mean, how could I resist. So up next we
Speaker 2: have rows of sharon or hibiscus, And you know, I
Speaker 2: feel like this one is so appropriate because the flowers
Speaker 2: on both rows of Sharon and tropical hibiscus are like
Speaker 2: a full moon in and of themselves.
Speaker 1: It's perfect. I have a pillar, white, nice rows of sharon,
Speaker 1: you know, reaching for the sky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic. It's a moonshot.
Speaker 1: It's a moonshot.
Speaker 2: So there's several that you can choose from.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: If you are looking for white, big white flowers on
Speaker 2: your patio, or you live in a hot climate USDA
Speaker 2: Zone ten or warmer, you can try Hollywood Hibiscus earth angel.
Speaker 2: It is an unusual tropical hibiscus with pure white flowers.
Speaker 2: Usually they are really brightly colored, but this one has big,
Speaker 2: pure white flowers. And the thing that sets Hollywood hibiscus
Speaker 2: apart from other tropical hibiscus is that the flowers open
Speaker 2: completely and they face upward, so on those beautiful nights
Speaker 2: are really actually looking at those flowers. Not they're underside,
Speaker 2: but they're really shining up at you like the moon itself. Now,
Speaker 2: of course, Rosa Sharon hardy Hibiscus hardy down to USDA
Speaker 2: Zone five heat tilet through USDA Zone nine. Lots of
Speaker 2: wonderful choices. If you want the absolute biggest, purest, white, crispest,
Speaker 2: nicest flowers, you gotta choose Para blue pure white. Can't
Speaker 2: go wrong with that one. It really is exceptionally large
Speaker 2: and just a beautifully elegant plant. I am so in
Speaker 2: love with the Para blue roses of Sharon in general.
Speaker 2: But it's not the only one. We have white Chiffon,
Speaker 2: which kind of is a double with a powder puff
Speaker 2: in the center. And if you're like, hey, I really
Speaker 2: like white, but I kind of can't resist having a
Speaker 2: little bit of color, I've got one for you. That
Speaker 2: is Starblast Chiffon. Awesome Starblast, Yeah, another appropriate name. And
Speaker 2: this one is pure white, but it also has these
Speaker 2: sort of beautiful striations of bright red pink coming out
Speaker 2: of the center for just a little bit of extra
Speaker 2: color without losing that beautiful of the white flowers. So
Speaker 2: spoiled for choice there now Steady as she Goes Guardina,
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Most gardinias are more of a spring blooming plant.
Speaker 2: In the south, Steady as She Goes is a reblooming guardina.
Speaker 2: So if you are in a warm climate, this plant
Speaker 2: will continue to bloom all summer long. And of course
Speaker 2: with guardinas in addition to that amazing white flower and
Speaker 2: plenty of them, you get that fragrance.
Speaker 1: You're getting to an important point here. If we're talking
Speaker 1: about moon landscaping, fragrance can be an important part of.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, because it's very powerful. I mean it's powerful
Speaker 2: during the day, but at night, when you smell the
Speaker 2: plants on the air, there's just nothing like that. Now,
Speaker 2: speaking of fragrance, I wanted to move to some fragrant
Speaker 2: roses that are in the proven Winter's Color Choice line
Speaker 2: because they're wonderful. Flavorette paired is an edible rose with
Speaker 2: a slight pear flavor, and the flowers are white. The
Speaker 2: outside of the petal is pink, so it again kind
Speaker 2: of gives you a little bit of a best of
Speaker 2: both worlds. The flowers are taste and good to eat,
Speaker 2: so they was useful in the kitchen as they are
Speaker 2: in the garden, and really really fragrant, very fluoriferous, gonna
Speaker 2: flower all summer for you without having to prune or
Speaker 2: deadhead or anything like that. Similarly, we have reminiscent crema,
Speaker 2: which we call crama because it also has some yellow
Speaker 2: in it, so it's not as pure white as some
Speaker 2: of the other plants that we've talked about, but it
Speaker 2: has all that old fashioned appeal. Tons of petals, beautiful fragrance,
Speaker 2: and just a romantic white rose. Now, let's say you
Speaker 2: want a white rose for these beautiful moonlit nights, but
Speaker 2: you don't want to do any work, you don't want
Speaker 2: to fuss with anything. You just want the lowest maintenance,
Speaker 2: most floriferous rose that you barely have to lift a
Speaker 2: finger for. We've got one for you, oh so easy
Speaker 2: ice bay perfect. Now, this is a newer rose for
Speaker 2: us because it is surprisingly difficult to develop disease resistance
Speaker 2: in white roses. So that is why it took us
Speaker 2: so long. I mean, we have had the O So
Speaker 2: easy rose series out on the market for decades really,
Speaker 2: and only was just able to find a white one
Speaker 2: that was florid ferous enough and disease resistant enough for
Speaker 2: the program in the last five or so years. So
Speaker 2: it's a really special plant. Again, another no brainer. And
Speaker 2: I have one last one for you.
Speaker 1: And as you wrap it up here, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna leave here a minute. I'm gonna go see Adriana.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna slide to you. Oh my gosh, you get
Speaker 1: Apollo thirteen with some tang. Okay, that's for during the break, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll go bring Apollo fourteen.
Speaker 2: To Okay, so we will for our YouTube viewers, we
Speaker 2: will broadcast our tang tasting. But I'm gonna wrap up
Speaker 2: plants on trial first. Well, you take that over there,
Speaker 2: because this plant is a good one. Steady Eddy viburnum. Now,
Speaker 2: this is a reblooming double file viburnum that continues to
Speaker 2: flower all summer. Blooms in late spring along with other viburnums,
Speaker 2: but it will continue to put out fresh flowers all
Speaker 2: summer long in ours here at our trial garden. I
Speaker 2: was just out there last week, absolutely covered in flowers.
Speaker 2: It's probably its fourth wave of blooms this year. And
Speaker 2: the great thing about this one for those moon gardens,
Speaker 2: it is the perfect hedge. In fact, we grow it
Speaker 2: as a hedge in our trial gardens, and there's not
Speaker 2: that many other hedges. I mean, there's panicle hydrangeas that
Speaker 2: are going to give you tons and tons of white
Speaker 2: flowers all season long. So it's a really great choice.
Speaker 2: That blooms all season without having to dead head it.
Speaker 2: It is hardy down to USDA Zone five, heat tolerant
Speaker 2: through USDA Zone eight and four to five feet tall
Speaker 2: and wide. So lots and lots of choices to include
Speaker 2: Proven Winter's Color Choice Shrubs in your moon garden or
Speaker 2: any landscape that you might spend time in the evening
Speaker 2: or night. We're gonna take a little break. If you're
Speaker 2: watching on YouTube, you can join us for the tang tasting.
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Speaker 2: at the bottom of that website. Now we had a message.
Speaker 2: So last week we were talking about txture mm hm oh,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 1: Love the comments on texture that we got from our
Speaker 1: listeners and our viewers and Stacey. It caused me to
Speaker 1: think I forgot to mention a plant in texture oh
Speaker 1: that I absolutely cannot stand and again it goes back
Speaker 1: to my garden center days from handling so many of
Speaker 1: them through the years asparagus, fern or spring arrived, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it would just make my arms break out in
Speaker 1: a rash, and we sold tons of them. I just
Speaker 1: maybe there's people out there who love aspa. It's not
Speaker 1: even a fern.
Speaker 2: No, it's not a fern, right, And it's not an asparagus.
Speaker 2: I mean it's asparagus related, right, but it's not asparagus.
Speaker 2: I would rather just have the aspara argus plant because
Speaker 2: despite the fact that I don't particularly care for asparagus
Speaker 2: is a vegetable, I think it is an absolutely gorgeous plant.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And there's something about that plant, even though we're not
Speaker 2: talking about texture anymore. It has this really fine foliage
Speaker 2: and after a rain or in the morning, when the
Speaker 2: dew is on it, it's just like it's covered in diamonds.
Speaker 2: It just holds these little tiny beads of water. It's
Speaker 2: so so lovely. But Kristin wrote us. She says, going
Speaker 2: on the theme of texture, what do you think about
Speaker 2: this idea for a walkway am Sony on the back,
Speaker 2: then Lamb's ears and then rock and round seed them
Speaker 2: toward the front. I'm a newer gardener and I'm trying
Speaker 2: my hand at design. It's very hard, and I just
Speaker 2: wanted to say to Kristin, I think that sounds like
Speaker 2: a lovely combination.
Speaker 1: I think so too.
Speaker 2: And I would also say to Kristin and any other
Speaker 2: person out there who is thinking about designing combinations or
Speaker 2: designing a garden, there are no wrong answers. And I
Speaker 2: have found over the years that the best thing that
Speaker 2: you can do to be successful as a garden designer
Speaker 2: or as a combination designer is just to do it.
Speaker 2: You know. Again, we talked about this a bit that
Speaker 2: so many garden designers make it look so easy, like, oh,
Speaker 2: they have this natural talent for putting plants together. And
Speaker 2: that is absolutely a language that you will acquire as
Speaker 2: you get to know more plants and put more things together.
Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes I look at my garden and
Speaker 2: I think, you know what, put more? The answer is
Speaker 2: always more, get.
Speaker 1: Out there and make some mistakes and great job, Kristin.
Speaker 1: All three plants also like full.
Speaker 2: Sung Yeah, so that's important.
Speaker 1: They can handle that. And Lambsier, you know, some people
Speaker 1: don't like Lambsier I love lambs here, and it's a
Speaker 1: great example of a plant that you could use in
Speaker 1: a moon landscape or moon garden.
Speaker 2: It's a great choice. It's beautiful in the evening, it
Speaker 2: is really beautiful. So Kristin, I think that sounds like
Speaker 2: a great combination. Don't forget you can always go to
Speaker 2: the garden center, design on your cart, put things there,
Speaker 2: move them around, try them out. And I can tell you,
Speaker 2: having worked for a number of designers who are very
Speaker 2: well paid for their jobs, they very often just buy
Speaker 2: a bunch of plants and get to the jobs site,
Speaker 2: get to the job site and just start putting them together.
Speaker 2: They don't have any kind of secret to their success
Speaker 2: other than just getting the right plants, which of course
Speaker 2: is half the battle. But the right plants often is
Speaker 2: just what you like.
Speaker 1: You know. That's interesting, And I mentioned that in the
Speaker 1: first segment. That's the Apollo approach right now.
Speaker 2: That's true, have a.
Speaker 1: Plan, make it up as you go, not enough time
Speaker 1: to get the job done.
Speaker 2: Be like the astronauts. Yes, we have a question from Pamela.
Speaker 1: All right, Pamela writes, why are there moths all over
Speaker 1: my new butterfly bush?
Speaker 2: Yes, so I can understand why people might feel a
Speaker 2: little bit panicked to see moths instead of butterflies on
Speaker 2: their butterfly bush. I am a moth fan. I am
Speaker 2: a big moth fan, despite the fact that I am
Speaker 2: a knitter. I don't like to see them in my house,
Speaker 2: but as far as in the garden, the more moths
Speaker 2: the better. I think. Moths are lovely, beautiful, misunderstood creatures.
Speaker 2: They are simply a butterfly without a pr campaign. They're
Speaker 2: very closely related. They're very closely related moths and butterflies.
Speaker 2: In fact, they're considered to be in the same scientific order.
Speaker 2: So it really makes sense that anything that would attract
Speaker 2: moths would attract butterflies. So it's not surprising. It doesn't
Speaker 2: mean there's something wrong. It doesn't mean that your butterflysh
Speaker 2: isn't going to also attract butterflies. But I wanted to
Speaker 2: also address Pamela's question of quantity of moths on this plant,
Speaker 2: because there were a lot of them, and that was
Speaker 2: kind of what concerned her. One of the other things
Speaker 2: that a lot of people don't realize is that butterflies
Speaker 2: tend to lay their eggs singly, just one egg at
Speaker 2: a time. And mosts tend to lay them in clusters,
Speaker 2: and so usually what will then happen is you'll have
Speaker 2: a whole lot of moths hatching out at once, or
Speaker 2: a whole lot of caterpillars. So both the moth and
Speaker 2: the butterfly larva are called caterpillars, So you'll tend to
Speaker 2: have a lot higher numbers of moth larva all at
Speaker 2: once on a plant. And that means, since they're all
Speaker 2: in kind of the same schedule, they're gonna be caterpillars
Speaker 2: at the same time, they're going to be cocoons at
Speaker 2: the same time, and then they're going to be adult
Speaker 2: moths all at the same time.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting perspective.
Speaker 2: You're going to generally have that like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I'm being invaded by moths. There are hundreds of moths
Speaker 2: compared to oh, there's a lovely butterfly, so not a
Speaker 2: cause for concern. The other thing I do want to say,
Speaker 2: moths often tend to be more active at night, So
Speaker 2: if you are gardening for the evening a moon garden,
Speaker 2: white flowers do very often attract moths. Sure, so you'll
Speaker 2: just have to embrace them. I know a lot of
Speaker 2: people are freaked out, But do a little reading, get
Speaker 2: to know the beautiful diversity of moths out there, and
Speaker 2: hopefully you will come around to becoming a mod lover
Speaker 2: as I am.
Speaker 1: I love that fantastic Vish writes, My rows of Sharon
Speaker 1: flowers aren't opening, They're just dropping to the ground as buds.
Speaker 1: What's happening?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll bet you got this a lot at the
Speaker 2: garden center all the time. So it is true that
Speaker 2: both tropical hibiscus and rows of sharon, if they get
Speaker 2: very stressed extreme heat, drought, stressed, too much water, they
Speaker 2: will just drop their flower buds, not all at once,
Speaker 2: you know, not like a gardenia that's just like I
Speaker 2: can't take this anymore, and they all go. But it
Speaker 2: will drop some of those cause it's just like, hey,
Speaker 2: I got to conserve my resources. I can't open every
Speaker 2: single one of these flowers. But I would also say,
Speaker 2: especially in the case of rows of Sharon, nine times
Speaker 2: out of ten, people are confusing the seed heads falling
Speaker 2: off of the plant with the flower buds because they
Speaker 2: look very similar. Yes, and so a lot of people
Speaker 2: think that when they see those seed heads all over
Speaker 2: the ground that it was a bud that didn't open,
Speaker 2: and we hear from gardeners every single year who have
Speaker 2: this confusion. If that's happened, pick up a couple of
Speaker 2: those from the ground, take your pruners, cut them open.
Speaker 2: If it looks like okra, inside, you got a seed
Speaker 2: pod and you missed the flower. Most roses of Sharon,
Speaker 2: their flowers only last to day, and so they're usually
Speaker 2: open at night. So I kind of debated if they
Speaker 2: should go into the moon garden because as the evening progresses,
Speaker 2: their flowers will start to close, but you'll have you know,
Speaker 2: a good couple of hours in there. And I also
Speaker 2: figured because roses of Sharon are so long blooming, that
Speaker 2: you can easily get through two cycles of the moon
Speaker 2: because they boom so long. So you can't resist that.
Speaker 2: I mean, since we're talking about gardening for the moon,
Speaker 2: So do check whether the what's on the ground is
Speaker 2: actually a seedhead or a flower. But if it if
Speaker 2: you cut it open and it shows like a bunch
Speaker 2: of fold and rolled petals, then yeah, you are just
Speaker 2: having them drop. And unfortunately there is not really much
Speaker 2: that you can do. It's not necessary that you are
Speaker 2: doing something wrong. Of course, do you check the water
Speaker 2: if you have something like a downspout or a sprinkler
Speaker 2: system that might be delivering too much water. They do
Speaker 2: want well drained soil and can't really tolerate super soggy conditions.
Speaker 2: But nine times out of ten it's more likely to
Speaker 2: be a combination of heat and drought stress. So you're
Speaker 2: going to want to check what's going on in the soil,
Speaker 2: make sure the plant's getting enough water. And if it's
Speaker 2: the heat, well, you're just going to have to power
Speaker 2: through and have faith that the Rosa Sharon has enough
Speaker 2: other buds to open for you later and not to.
Speaker 1: Be labor this, Stacey. But if the plant has lots
Speaker 1: and lots of buds and it's under stress, as you mentioned, personally,
Speaker 1: I've never met a rows of Sharon that doesn't like
Speaker 1: a good pruning, cheers or a pruning and maybe the
Speaker 1: plant for next year, some pruning maybe in order.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they do tend to benefit from pruning,
Speaker 2: not least of all because there wood can get very weak,
Speaker 2: and you know, very often at this time of year
Speaker 2: you'll see those stems bending and you'll think, like, what
Speaker 2: is that crazy plant in someone's yard And it's just
Speaker 2: a rather neglected rows of sharon. The other thing about
Speaker 2: Rosa Sharon is they are some of the more nutrient
Speaker 2: heavy users compared to other plants, and you know, most
Speaker 2: of the time I'm like, yeah, don't worry about fertilizing
Speaker 2: Rosa sharen, especially if you live in an area with
Speaker 2: alkaline soil. They are going to strictly need some regular
Speaker 2: fertilizing otherwise the foliage will be kind of washed out.
Speaker 2: That means they're not making as much energy as they
Speaker 2: could and they may not be able to support creating
Speaker 2: flower buds in the first place, or maintaining any flower
Speaker 2: buds that they have. So it is in cold climates
Speaker 2: right now too late to start fertilizing, But mark your
Speaker 2: calendar for next year early, like mid March, late March thereabouts.
Speaker 2: Start putting down that fertilizer. You can put it down
Speaker 2: monthly from late March through late July if you wish,
Speaker 2: or just do it on one or two times after
Speaker 2: the spring in that time period. But your Rosa sharin
Speaker 2: will thank you and it will show us appreciation and
Speaker 2: flowers can't go wrong with that. We're going to take
Speaker 2: a little bit of a break and when we come
Speaker 2: back We're going to continue talking about the moon, the
Speaker 2: Apollo missions, and maybe a plant or two. Say tuned.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. As we talk
Speaker 1: about moon landscaping. By the way, before I forget, I
Speaker 1: want to mention trees are so important in a landscape
Speaker 1: when you enjoy moon gardening, because the moon shining through
Speaker 1: the trees and the branches at pretty much any time
Speaker 1: of the year, and the movement it creates, Oh boy,
Speaker 1: it's mystifying. And there are people out there who will
Speaker 1: put garden lighting in twenty twenty five feet up in
Speaker 1: the tree, casting its light downward, nice warm light to
Speaker 1: try to mimic moonlight. There are people out there who
Speaker 1: are going to say, don't do that. That's not responsible
Speaker 1: for the insects and everything else. And I understand that,
Speaker 1: but there are people out there that do tremendous artificial
Speaker 1: moon lighting within a landscape. Fragrant plants so super important.
Speaker 1: Some plants like moonflowers, star jasmine, they're going to produce
Speaker 1: flowers that release their scent as dusk falls to attract
Speaker 1: nocturnal pollinators, Angels, trumpet, Brogmancia, and as I mentioned, the moonflow.
Speaker 1: It's amazing how fast moonflower grows, but so easy to grow.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had a really good performing moonflower though,
Speaker 2: like with lots of flowers, I never have. I would
Speaker 2: love to, but it's just the ra happen for me.
Speaker 1: I think the key is putting it under stress. Oh,
Speaker 1: I really do. I think putting it under stress causes
Speaker 1: the plant to force some blooms. So if it's in
Speaker 1: your landscape and it's too happy and it's been being
Speaker 1: watered too well, you're going to get copious amounts of foliage.
Speaker 1: You're not going to get the blooms.
Speaker 2: Oh that's good to know. I do want to say
Speaker 2: you were talking about nocturnal pollinators, and we talked about
Speaker 2: moths in the last segment. If you are in Michigan
Speaker 2: or another cool climate like this, bats are not a
Speaker 2: nocturnal pollinator. All of our bats in cold climates are
Speaker 2: insectivorous exclusively. They don't come to hummingbird feeders, they don't
Speaker 2: come to flowers. They are only out there eating the bugs.
Speaker 2: So don't worry. You're not going to attract bats or sorry,
Speaker 2: if you wanted to attract bats, you're not going to
Speaker 2: get bats at your hummingbird feeders or flowers or anything
Speaker 2: like that in a cold climate. That's only in warmer
Speaker 2: climates where you have for bats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good point. How about moongates or moon trellises to
Speaker 1: grow plants over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said you wanted one of these. Did you
Speaker 2: ever get one?
Speaker 1: No, I'm planning. It's one of the next things I'm
Speaker 1: going to do in my landscape. And you know that
Speaker 1: goes way back in Chinese culture.
Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, there's you know, when we were talking about
Speaker 2: the gardens around America, the Lansu Chinese garden in Portland
Speaker 2: has some beautiful moon gates incorporated into that garden.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Keep adding those plants that will reflect the moonlight.
Speaker 1: Chantilly lace, aruncus, luminary backlight flocks, the silvery foliage of
Speaker 1: lavender or Russian sage can make them ideal plants also
Speaker 1: to add to your moon garden. Oh, I wanted to
Speaker 1: mention real quickly personally for me again, you can tell
Speaker 1: I'm interested in the moon. In two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: I worked with the police department here in the state
Speaker 1: of Michigan in a city by the name of Wyoming,
Speaker 1: with Officer Adam Bartron. What happened was we received Stuart
Speaker 1: russa I believe that's the glass that Adriana's drinking from
Speaker 1: Apollo fourteen. He was a US Forest Service smoke jumper,
Speaker 1: also an astronaut. He was the command module pilot on
Speaker 1: Apollo fourteen. He brought a whole bunch of tree seeds
Speaker 1: up into space with him. When he returned, those seeds
Speaker 1: were distributed and planted throughout the United States. President Gerald
Speaker 1: Ford gave us a sycamore tree here in the city
Speaker 1: of Wyoming. It's in western Michigan, and inadvertently a landscaper
Speaker 1: cut it down, and so Officer Patron and myself in
Speaker 1: the City of Wyoming Police Department got together and we're
Speaker 1: able to get another one and plant it in the
Speaker 1: city of Wyoming where it grows today. We had a
Speaker 1: dedication service back in August of two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1: We had members of Congress NASA that came out to
Speaker 1: enjoy the moon tree. So that was a fun experience.
Speaker 2: That is pretty cool. So if someone local wants to
Speaker 2: see it, they can just go to the Wyoming. Is
Speaker 2: there like a plaque or something so they there.
Speaker 1: No, Yes, there's a plaque. We'll show you a picture
Speaker 1: on YouTube. It's a stone plaque and you'll be able
Speaker 1: to identify the moon tree growing right there on the
Speaker 1: grounds of the City of Wyoming Police Department. All right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about a few of those favorites for a
Speaker 1: moon garden, Stacy. I was thinking powerball, panicle hydrangea or
Speaker 1: any type of panicle hydrange or for that matter, a
Speaker 1: smooth hydrange like incredible would be absolutely brilliant and perfect
Speaker 1: in a moon garden.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, they would all be perfect. I didn't bring them
Speaker 2: up in Plants on Trial because there was just too
Speaker 2: many and I knew it would take up the whole
Speaker 2: Plants on Trial and I wanted to get through all
Speaker 2: the rest of them. But yeah, panicle hydrangers, you can't
Speaker 2: go wrong because not only do they have beautiful, crisp
Speaker 2: white blooms, they bloom for such a long time, so
Speaker 2: you're really getting that nice long season of white flowers
Speaker 2: at least going through two moon cycles to enjoy in
Speaker 2: the garden.
Speaker 1: Now, I'd also suggest if you want to get into
Speaker 1: moon landscaping, maybe start with annuals. You take an annual
Speaker 1: like mini Vista, white Supertunias or Superbina, white out Superbina,
Speaker 1: any of those types of plants are going to very quickly.
Speaker 1: Oh a favorite of mine, diamond frost, Euphorbia. And in
Speaker 1: the evening hours, absolutely beautiful Niagara Falls switch grass. So
Speaker 1: you might not think ornamental grasses, but of course, true
Speaker 1: to my nature, I'm going to bring up ornamental grasses
Speaker 1: at some point and switch grass or panicum Niagara Falls
Speaker 1: when it goes into its inflorescence, beautiful in.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, kind of like that glowingy blue color.
Speaker 1: Yes, honeysuckle so sensational. Honeysuckle is a great plant in
Speaker 1: a moon garden. And Stacy, I think Kinsley's ghost would
Speaker 1: be too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, it's got that again, sort of like the
Speaker 2: Niagara Falls Panicum ghostly glowing blue color. It's really really cool,
Speaker 2: like the moon itself exactly.
Speaker 1: Any of the daisies color coded. The price is white
Speaker 1: cone flower. You're echinaceous. What a great plant in a
Speaker 1: summer garden, and specifically the white ones perfect for a
Speaker 1: moon garden. Superbells, Lemon Slice Caliber CoA or over Easy
Speaker 1: Caliber CoA, Surefire white Pogonias, and then Stacy, I think
Speaker 1: a rock star in a moon garden would be a
Speaker 1: Pugster white butterfly bleach oh.
Speaker 2: I agree completely. You know, if people have grown a
Speaker 2: white butterfly bush before, they're like, ooh, they age so gross.
Speaker 2: And it's true that a lot of white butterfly bushes
Speaker 2: do not age gracefully. They get kind of there, they
Speaker 2: start out lovely, but then they go kind of dingy
Speaker 2: and then they just run and it's horrible. So we've
Speaker 2: been really working on finding a better white, a better
Speaker 2: white Pugster, and we do have that now. So Pugster
Speaker 2: White two point oh is coming out on the market.
Speaker 2: The original Pugster White was no slouch, but if you've
Speaker 2: been looking for that sort of ideal white butterfly bush,
Speaker 2: definitely keep an eye out for a Pugster white two
Speaker 2: point zero.
Speaker 1: Fiber optic grasses are great in a moon garden. Whirlwind
Speaker 1: white fan flower, the scavolas, the amazing daisies, Laguna cloud
Speaker 1: white lobilia. The list goes on and on. Sugar shack
Speaker 1: button bush, is that one you'd consider?
Speaker 2: It is one I would consider. It is a beautiful plant,
Speaker 2: very interesting, definitely to dry in my garden for it,
Speaker 2: but a really really cool plant, great fragrance and a
Speaker 2: great pollinator plant. And you know, looks like Sputnik, the sputnik,
Speaker 2: So that's another reason why people might like it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very good plant that you have to have,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, in a moon garden would be hostas.
Speaker 1: And you'd say, well, why hostas? First of all, MANI
Speaker 1: hostas have beautiful white blooms that would be great in
Speaker 1: a moon garden. But I love hostas that have a
Speaker 1: really large swath of white complementing the green Hosta hans
Speaker 1: or hosta Night before Christmas and Emperor's New Clothes, hosta
Speaker 1: fire and ice stacy. I think hostas have to be
Speaker 1: in my moon gear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't have deer, you can have hostas
Speaker 2: in your moon garden.
Speaker 1: Sum horrific cookies and cream hibiscus. And here's one for you.
Speaker 1: I love the luscious series of lantanas. They do so well,
Speaker 1: they're deer resistant. And there's one called Vanilla Breeze Oh, fantastic.
Speaker 1: Mandavilla's with white blooms a great choice, Agapanthus you can
Speaker 1: get white lily of the Nile, Veronica, Salvia. The list
Speaker 1: goes on and on, and I think it's important to
Speaker 1: point out that we're not saying that you have to
Speaker 1: exclusively use silver and white flowers, because there has to
Speaker 1: be some green in there breaking it up. But swaths
Speaker 1: of white flowers are certainly going to stand up and green.
Speaker 1: You know, evergreens within a moon garden. The texture that
Speaker 1: they provide again, the shadows brilliant.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we shot for the moon today. I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoyed it. I could go on for hours about moons.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, one of my favorite books,
Speaker 1: Stacey American Moonshot by Douglas Brinkley. I'd recommend getting this book. Wow.
Speaker 1: That is a great read too. So anyhow, just enjoy
Speaker 1: your moon landscape. Thank you Stacy, thank you Rick.
Speaker 2: And thank you on behalf of Adriana and I for
Speaker 2: the tang.
Speaker 1: You're welcome, You're welcome. It has been a culinary treat.
Speaker 2: Cheers, cheers.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching the Gardening Simplified show.
Speaker 1: Thanks for watching the YouTube version. Of the show the radio,
Speaker 1: listening to the radio version, and downloading the podcast. Thank
Speaker 1: you Adriana, Thank you Stacey. Have a great weekend.