1
00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,720
Speaker 1: It's that time.

2
00:00:15,919 --> 00:00:19,679
Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Shirley You Can't Be

3
00:00:19,839 --> 00:00:22,719
Serious Podcast. This is Dee Graves. I'm here with my

4
00:00:22,719 --> 00:00:26,480
friend Jason Colvin. I've got my vodka poisoned by Chernobyl

5
00:00:26,519 --> 00:00:29,399
with a splash of tab in my Marty the Moose cup,

6
00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:31,960
and Jason is here with his Dickey showing.

7
00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,840
Speaker 1: Nice. Okay, before we get started, let's go through our

8
00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,200
Christmas list, right. Okay, this is a Christmas episode. Let's

9
00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,920
go through our Christmas list. All right, so we got uh,

10
00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:51,679
we got Blame Peterson, Twel, David Right, Tal, Jay's Buckley, Howell,

11
00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:57,600
Addie I, China vcr Hey, most of these are towels.

12
00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:03,280
What you We love our patriots, We're just we.

13
00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,400
Speaker 2: We would love to have you here, have our own

14
00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,799
Manson family style Christmas here at the Sharly Podcasts. Hopefully

15
00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:13,239
next year we can make that happen.

16
00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,280
Speaker 1: Hey, if you are not a patreon you need to

17
00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,799
be because we've got some great episodes on our Patreon

18
00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,799
page and for his little five dollars a month, you

19
00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:20,359
get all of them.

20
00:01:20,439 --> 00:01:22,480
Speaker 2: Hey, it's Christmas time. If you guys want to give

21
00:01:22,599 --> 00:01:25,840
Jason and I a gift for Christmas, maybe just say, hey,

22
00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,560
we're going to give these guys five bucks.

23
00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:31,840
Speaker 1: A month, and in return, we give them more.

24
00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,519
Speaker 2: Podcasts, we give you more episodes, we give you if

25
00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,599
you do the little higher things, we give you gifts

26
00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,799
and fun stuff, and plus you get to join in

27
00:01:38,879 --> 00:01:41,359
the chats that we have on the Patreon page, which

28
00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:43,719
are also a lot of fun. If you ask Kevin Davis,

29
00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,079
Kevin subscribed at the Duke Brothers level and he got

30
00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,439
a cup, and he got the wireless headset. Is the

31
00:01:49,439 --> 00:01:52,959
first wireless like Bluetooth headset he had ever had. He's like,

32
00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,159
this is amazing. I could walk away from the computers. Yeah, yeah,

33
00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,200
it's cool, right, twenty first century Kevin. Great, that's right,

34
00:01:59,319 --> 00:01:59,799
that's right.

35
00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:02,599
Speaker 1: By the way, we still have our Stranger Things socks

36
00:02:02,599 --> 00:02:03,359
we need to give out.

37
00:02:03,439 --> 00:02:04,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we definitely do.

38
00:02:04,519 --> 00:02:06,840
Speaker 1: Go to our YouTube page, subscribe to the YouTube page,

39
00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,879
comment on there. See what you think. We've got a

40
00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:10,599
couple of videos out there now. It's pretty cool.

41
00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, go check those things out and make sure

42
00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,479
your nipples aren't showing.

43
00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,560
Speaker 1: Hey, I can barely see them nipples.

44
00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:18,960
Speaker 2: And he's really loud.

45
00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,759
Speaker 1: This is going to be a quote fest.

46
00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,759
Speaker 2: Okay, Jason. Before we go any further, do you know

47
00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,960
what season it is? It's Christmas season, It's World Cup season.

48
00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:32,360
I was extremely disappointed at the turnout at the bar

49
00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,520
for World Cup in Shawnee, Oklahoma. It turns out it's

50
00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,439
not a really big thing in some of the smaller

51
00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,759
rural areas, but for the rest of the world, it's huge.

52
00:02:41,759 --> 00:02:44,240
It's the biggest sporting event of the year and one

53
00:02:44,319 --> 00:02:46,520
of the teams. First time I watched the World Cup,

54
00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:50,439
the winning team was a team from Germany. The German

55
00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,280
name for the team is interesting. Are you ready? You

56
00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:52,800
ready for this?

57
00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, Deutsche Football National Manshaft. Manshaft means it's time to

58
00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:00,840
go to manscape dot com and use your Serious twenty

59
00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:02,919
coupon to get yourself all clean up.

60
00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,400
Speaker 2: Let's just say that Germany for this particular World Cup

61
00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,680
was unable to penetrate the box. Here's what I think

62
00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,120
the problem was. They had trouble with their balls. Yeah,

63
00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:19,120
because the grass was too long. You gotta trim the pitch, boys,

64
00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:21,879
you gotta trim that feel and that you can do

65
00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,800
today by going to our sponsormanscaped dot com and you

66
00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,759
use our promo code Serious twenty you will get twenty

67
00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,479
percent off of whatever your Christmas item is for this season,

68
00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,240
and you'll get free shipping.

69
00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,199
Speaker 1: Put your balls on the world stage.

70
00:03:37,639 --> 00:03:38,000
Speaker 2: Whack it.

71
00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,039
Speaker 1: Wait it. We have got Scrooged with mister Bill Murray

72
00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:46,120
and we've got Christmas Vacation with mister Chevy Chase.

73
00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,560
Speaker 2: Where are we gonna put it? Podcast?

74
00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:49,159
Speaker 1: This big bend over and I'll show you.

75
00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:51,680
Speaker 2: Thank you.

76
00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:53,280
Speaker 1: You t that up nicely for me.

77
00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,960
Speaker 2: All right, So we need to jump into these two

78
00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,680
movies because there's just chock full of stuffy and so

79
00:04:00,759 --> 00:04:02,000
I don't want to talk anymore. I just want to

80
00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,560
do it. Let's jump in right now. Let's start off

81
00:04:04,639 --> 00:04:08,000
with Scrooged. Okay, sure, Scrooged came out in eighty eight.

82
00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,560
Christmas Vacation came out in eighty nine, that's correct. Okay, Yeah,

83
00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:14,319
so we've got Scrooged came out first, and this was

84
00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,600
Bill Murray's return, and this is based on a Christmas

85
00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,439
Carol by Charles Dickens. Right, And I think that our

86
00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,839
normal listeners would expect me to go back to Charles

87
00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,399
Dickens' day. I was waiting for you were waiting for that, right,

88
00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,079
I'm not going to go back that far. Okay, I'm

89
00:04:27,079 --> 00:04:29,199
going to go back to October third, nineteen twenty six,

90
00:04:30,199 --> 00:04:32,839
so almost that far, okay, okay.

91
00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,079
Speaker 1: All right, okay, So October third, if you'll remember, that's

92
00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:38,680
my birthday. It was about nineteen twenty, half a century

93
00:04:38,759 --> 00:04:41,600
or so before I was born. But anyway, another guy

94
00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,560
was born that day named Marty Simmons. Okay.

95
00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,000
Speaker 2: Marty Simmons grows up early twenties, gets a job as

96
00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,600
a newspaper reporter in New York City and his one

97
00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:53,839
of his main beats is to cover restaurants. And so

98
00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,639
this group of business investors comes to him and said, Hey,

99
00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,680
we have got this idea where if you've got a

100
00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,879
member to this club, you can just pay with credit

101
00:05:02,959 --> 00:05:05,079
you don't have to use cash. And he's like, yeah,

102
00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:07,199
I'm not really, I'm a cash guy. I don't need

103
00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,040
to do that, and like, we'll cut you in on

104
00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,680
the business. He's like, okay, tell me what you want

105
00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,720
to do. And so he went to several of these restaurants,

106
00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:16,680
got them to agree to this thing, and Marty Simmons,

107
00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:21,319
in February of nineteen fifty was the first person in

108
00:05:21,439 --> 00:05:26,680
the world to use a credit card really yes, okay, okay. Now,

109
00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,399
Marty is a guy with many talents. He wrote obviously

110
00:05:30,439 --> 00:05:33,360
as a journalist. He started this business that they called

111
00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,680
the Diners Club. One of the bounding members of the

112
00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,160
Diners Club, and about twenty five years later he gets

113
00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,759
involved with a publishing company called National Lampoon.

114
00:05:43,879 --> 00:05:44,680
Speaker 1: Get out of Town.

115
00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,319
Speaker 2: Marty Simmons is one of the key members of the

116
00:05:48,399 --> 00:05:52,720
National Lampoon organization. He was part of the National Lampoon Players.

117
00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,680
He was involved in that business. He expanded them to radio,

118
00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,480
to television and of course to movies, and he was

119
00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:03,560
a part of National Lampoon Animal House, the original National

120
00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:13,079
Lampoon Vacation and of course Christmas Vacation as well. Uh huh,

121
00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,079
But I said we were going to start off with Scrooge.

122
00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:15,600
Speaker 1: Didn't You did say that?

123
00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,920
Speaker 2: Now I mentioned he was one of the guys that

124
00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,000
was with the National Lampoon Players. Well, one day one

125
00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,160
of those players comes up to him and he's the

126
00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,240
he's the business and they're like, hey, you know, I

127
00:06:25,319 --> 00:06:27,319
gotta go. I can't keep working here. I gotta go

128
00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:28,759
do something else. And he's like, well, we don't have

129
00:06:28,759 --> 00:06:32,160
an understudy for you. You can't just leave. We need you,

130
00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,680
and the guy's like, you know what, my younger brother

131
00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,000
he's really good. You should just use him. He's upstairs

132
00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,879
working at the radio anyway. And then guy's like, I guess,

133
00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,120
I mean, can he act? And he goes like, well,

134
00:06:42,199 --> 00:06:44,000
let me have him audition for you, and you'll see. Well,

135
00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,079
the guy that was leaving was Brian Doyle Murray and

136
00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,800
the guy that came in was mister Bill Murray. And

137
00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,920
that is how Bill Murray got his start at National Lampoon.

138
00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:59,720
Speaker 1: I am coming at me. Hold you know by whole night.

139
00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,199
Speaker 2: Hold, I swear.

140
00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,800
Speaker 1: Now beat it. That is fantastic. You tea that up

141
00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,639
so nicely, So Brian Doral Murray. I was gonna bring

142
00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,959
this up later when we talked about casting. Yeah, he's

143
00:07:11,959 --> 00:07:13,639
in both of these movies. He is in both of

144
00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,279
these movies. He was in the original National Lampoon Vacation.

145
00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,839
He's in Caddyshack, which of course is full of National

146
00:07:19,959 --> 00:07:24,519
Lampoon folks. Yes, yes, including Bill Murray, Chevy Chase. Yeah,

147
00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,360
I mean it was It's all a fests there by

148
00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,240
the way, go check out our Caddyshack Versus Happy Gilmour episode.

149
00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:34,040
We go into great detail about the beginnings of National Lampoon,

150
00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:34,600
which are fun.

151
00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,000
Speaker 2: Go check that episode out.

152
00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,519
Speaker 1: Okay, so just a little bit more on Brian Dole Murray.

153
00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,360
Speaker 2: You bring him up.

154
00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,560
Speaker 1: He was lou in Caddy Shack. Huh, what's that I say? Then?

155
00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:46,319
No fighting, But he plays mister Shirley Clark's boss and

156
00:07:46,399 --> 00:07:51,399
Christmas Vacation. He also plays Frank Cross's dad and Scrooged,

157
00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:55,040
but listen to this. In Vacation, he plays the guy

158
00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,240
who rintsed them tense in Durango, Colorado. Yeah, same actor,

159
00:07:58,399 --> 00:08:05,240
different characters in the Baker trilogy Quadrilogyeever it might be. Yeah,

160
00:08:05,639 --> 00:08:09,000
and there are several throwbacks in Scrooge to some of

161
00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,839
those old movies, not the least of which is Bill

162
00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,240
Murray taking a drink and this is right after he's

163
00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,519
seen the ghost and he opens his mouth and a

164
00:08:18,519 --> 00:08:19,399
golf ball comes out.

165
00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

166
00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:21,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would say that there's even more like

167
00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:24,480
current event type of mentions in Scrooged.

168
00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:24,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

169
00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,839
Speaker 1: I mean you got Mary lou Retten, Yeah, you got

170
00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,759
Jamie Farr. Yeah, you got Buddy Whackett, Buddy hack It. Yes,

171
00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:40,200
You've got was it Alfalfa or Spanky? And then you've

172
00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,080
got Bill Murray, specifically saying that his vodka was poisoned

173
00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,399
by Chernobyl. Yep, so a lot of fun references for

174
00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,080
eighties kids who remember that time.

175
00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,080
Speaker 2: You know, absolutely.

176
00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,159
Speaker 1: I watched it with my son last night. He thought

177
00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:54,519
it was hilarious. He didn't have any idea who Mary

178
00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:55,279
lou Rettin.

179
00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,600
Speaker 2: Was, Oh, did you know what Chernobyl was? Well, that's good,

180
00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,440
that's good. There you go.

181
00:08:59,480 --> 00:08:59,720
Speaker 1: Okay.

182
00:09:00,159 --> 00:09:03,720
Speaker 2: Scrooged starts off with a guy who was in the

183
00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,879
original skit for.

184
00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:10,679
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live. Okay, not John Belushi, Yeah, the other guy. Yeah, okay,

185
00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,440
tell me about that.

186
00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:14,879
Speaker 2: So very first skit, it's this cold open Saturday Night Live.

187
00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:19,519
John Belushi plays this foreign guy who seems to be

188
00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,200
going in for some language lessons, and the guy who's

189
00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,960
given them the language lessons is telling him some of

190
00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,440
the weirdest phrases.

191
00:09:28,159 --> 00:09:31,720
Speaker 1: I am going to feed your fingertips to the wolverines.

192
00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,759
I'm going to feed our fingertips to the wolverines. Yes,

193
00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,200
and then this guy has a heart attack, falls over

194
00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,960
and dies, and John Belushi, thinking this is part of

195
00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,000
the lesson, also.

196
00:09:42,799 --> 00:09:44,399
Speaker 2: Has a heart attack and falls over the guys.

197
00:09:44,519 --> 00:09:45,000
Speaker 1: Yes, he does.

198
00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,200
Speaker 2: Chevy Chase comes out as a stage manager and is

199
00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:53,159
the first one to say.

200
00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:56,559
Speaker 1: Live from New York, it's Saturday Night.

201
00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,960
Speaker 2: The guy who's playing the language teacher is a guy

202
00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,480
who's a writer for the show. He had come from

203
00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,000
National Lampoon and it's a guy named Michael o'donahue. Okay,

204
00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:09,879
as we were, you know, as we do, as we

205
00:10:09,919 --> 00:10:13,240
text our Patreon friends, David writes like, I hope you

206
00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:15,519
talk about this guy right. So, David, I'm sorry to

207
00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,919
not read the Saturday Night Live book that you have,

208
00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,480
but I can tell you that this guy had this

209
00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:23,480
idea back in the early eighties, maybe even back into

210
00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,919
the seventies, of doing another comedy dark style of a

211
00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,360
Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens. Okay, I mean he wanted

212
00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,480
to scare the dickens out of people.

213
00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,080
Speaker 1: Nobody gets that joke.

214
00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,440
Speaker 2: Nobody gets me, okay. So he writes this script. He

215
00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,279
shows it to Bill Murray later on, Bill Murray's like,

216
00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,039
it's not so good. And then things happen, you know,

217
00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,240
Saturday Night, Levet becomes big, Michael o'donahue has writing jobs

218
00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,919
that he continues to do. Then Ghostbusters happens, and Bill

219
00:10:57,039 --> 00:11:01,000
Murray is huge, right, and he decides to have his

220
00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:04,799
own serious movie called The Razor's Edge, which does very poorly.

221
00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,840
And so he is in this situation where he's got

222
00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,240
this outrageous fame. All of a sudden he's suddenly getting

223
00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:13,799
panned by the critics for this serious movie that he's done,

224
00:11:14,039 --> 00:11:16,759
and he basically decides to go into hiding. And after

225
00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:20,639
four years of being in hiding, not doing a single

226
00:11:20,639 --> 00:11:23,840
movie except a really small part in a movie called

227
00:11:23,919 --> 00:11:27,120
Little Shop of Horrors, which is fantastic.

228
00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,320
Speaker 1: Movie by his cameo is awesome.

229
00:11:28,399 --> 00:11:32,399
Speaker 2: Oh it's great. He plays the masochistic patient of the

230
00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:37,320
Steve Martin Dennis. Yes, absolutely brilliant. And by the way,

231
00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,080
in case I forget it, it comes up at the

232
00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,559
end of Scrooged.

233
00:11:40,279 --> 00:11:43,799
Speaker 1: A little part when he's when he's doing his little

234
00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,799
weird you know ad lib, he says, feed me seed

235
00:11:47,799 --> 00:11:49,919
more right at the end of the movie, quick question

236
00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:57,200
for you, Yes, have you ever seen Ghostbusters? Have you

237
00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,679
ever seen Yes? How many times? Million times? How many

238
00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:01,840
times you seen razors Age?

239
00:12:02,519 --> 00:12:03,159
Speaker 2: Zero times?

240
00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:05,000
Speaker 1: I've never seen Racers, never seen rach I.

241
00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,679
Speaker 2: Would watch it. I'm curious to see what AI curious.

242
00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,919
Serious piece would be I really would.

243
00:12:10,039 --> 00:12:13,519
Speaker 1: But I mean in thirty five years, I've never got

244
00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:14,080
around to it.

245
00:12:14,159 --> 00:12:16,679
Speaker 2: Okay, another side note, just throw it over to Christmas

246
00:12:16,759 --> 00:12:20,879
Vacation real quick. Jonathan Johnny Gilicky Yeah believe is how

247
00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:23,159
you pronounced his last name? Yeah? Yeh, thirteen years old,

248
00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,039
first comedy he's ever done, first big picture that he's

249
00:12:26,039 --> 00:12:29,799
ever done. He said that chevy Chase would like point

250
00:12:29,879 --> 00:12:32,960
at him for when he was supposed to say his line, right, Yeah,

251
00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,240
he's supposed to, you know, and he was just he

252
00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,519
and he appreciated. He's like I was thirteen, I didn't

253
00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,639
know comic timing, and chevy Chase was a master at

254
00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:41,360
comic timing.

255
00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:41,759
Speaker 1: Right.

256
00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:44,120
Speaker 2: He has shown it to him, and chevy Chase kind

257
00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,320
of took him under his wing. They'd have lunch together

258
00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,679
and occasionally Chevy be like, let's get out of here,

259
00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,399
and they would go to different sets. So they went

260
00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,320
to Harlem Knights. Yeah, Richard Pryor. Eddie Murphy comes up

261
00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,279
and scrooged.

262
00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:59,039
Speaker 1: Yes, one of the funniest lines in the movie. Yes,

263
00:12:59,159 --> 00:13:01,320
I'm sorry, you know, I thought you were Richard Pryor.

264
00:13:01,639 --> 00:13:07,360
And also they go and visit the set of Ghostbusters too. Really, Yeah,

265
00:13:07,399 --> 00:13:08,159
that's fantastic.

266
00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,720
Speaker 2: There are all kinds of ties in this movie, and

267
00:13:10,759 --> 00:13:12,399
we usually do this at the beginning, we talk about

268
00:13:12,399 --> 00:13:15,360
the various ties. Yeah, and obviously we've got Brian Doyle

269
00:13:15,399 --> 00:13:16,600
Murray as a huge one.

270
00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,799
Speaker 1: But maybe maybe the biggest one is the house. We

271
00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:24,039
talked about this in our Diehard Versus Lethal Weapon episode.

272
00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,120
This was shot on the Warner Brothers lot, So this

273
00:13:26,279 --> 00:13:28,600
entire movie is shot in la and it's snowy and

274
00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:33,200
looks like Chicago. That's movie magic. Todd and Margo obviously

275
00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,919
lived next door to the Grizwolds. The Grizzwolds live next

276
00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,440
door to the Murta house in Lethal Weapon one, two, three,

277
00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,279
and four. Yes, it's Todd and Margo's house is also

278
00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,279
the Murta's house. So Todd Margo conceivably had to fix

279
00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,799
the toilet that got blown up from leth Weapon too.

280
00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,919
Speaker 2: Right, So why is that important? Because Richard Donner, the

281
00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:58,039
director of Lethal Weapon, is also the guy who directed Scrooged.

282
00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,440
Speaker 1: That's good. That's good. By the way, I gotta throw

283
00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,159
this inkah. For those of you who like our stuff

284
00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,639
and follow us or whatever, we have covered Ghostbusters two

285
00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,759
with our friends at the Film by Podcast YEP, Jeff

286
00:14:10,759 --> 00:14:14,159
and Brad. We are on their podcast covering Ghostbusters two.

287
00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,000
If you want to catch that, it's a really good one,

288
00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:18,120
a lot of fun. Go over there and check them out, guys.

289
00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,200
Speaker 2: I just got to say, some of those episodes that

290
00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,399
we've done with those guys are some of my favorites,

291
00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:24,799
especially the Ghostbusters two. And that was our first one

292
00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,480
together and we got done with that one was like,

293
00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,799
that was fantastic. Yeah, those guys are great. I mean,

294
00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,960
it was just a very very enjoyable experience to do

295
00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:36,399
that podcast. Please go check out, go subscribe a film

296
00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:37,399
by podcast YEP.

297
00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,799
Speaker 1: By the way, I've got one more connection between these

298
00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:41,639
two movies that want to bring up. Okay it's a

299
00:14:41,679 --> 00:14:45,240
small one though, Okay, but since we're making broad connections,

300
00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:49,799
So in Scrooge, Yes, Bill Murray's secretary, her name is Grace.

301
00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:55,720
Speaker 2: Oh what Grace? She died thirty years ago.

302
00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:05,320
Speaker 1: Blast. Yes, that actress is from Tulsa, Oklahoma.

303
00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,639
Speaker 2: For with Uffy, she is from Tulsa.

304
00:15:10,279 --> 00:15:11,480
Speaker 1: That he did not know that not.

305
00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,200
Speaker 2: The Betty Boop actress, the Thefi Woodard. Yeah yeah, yeah, Oklhoma.

306
00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:18,240
How about that, you guys? May have passed in the

307
00:15:18,279 --> 00:15:19,200
street and you had no idea.

308
00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,480
Speaker 1: We've probably been to Woodland Hills Mall at the same time.

309
00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,399
Speaker 2: Probably half. Okay, so we've we've sidetracked a little bit. Yeah, okay,

310
00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,000
So back to Michael o'donahue. He is a hot tempered

311
00:15:31,879 --> 00:15:34,519
He's a strange dude, right, He's a strange dude. When

312
00:15:34,519 --> 00:15:37,120
we were talking text wise, I was like, Okay, this

313
00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,720
guy has had zero successful films other than this film. Like,

314
00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:44,759
he's got scrooged, he's got all of the Saturday Night

315
00:15:44,799 --> 00:15:48,759
Live stuff. But he did write a little movie called Tarzoom,

316
00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,279
which is an X rated cartoon from the mid seventies.

317
00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,960
Oh my gosh.

318
00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, my Google.

319
00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,600
Speaker 2: Search history has to be deleted after we do some

320
00:15:59,639 --> 00:16:00,480
of these research.

321
00:16:01,559 --> 00:16:04,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, so Michael donahue has written the script. Bill

322
00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:09,279
Barry wasn't interested. But now, four years after his time Ghostbusters,

323
00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:11,120
with just a brief cameo in the Little Shop of

324
00:16:11,159 --> 00:16:14,120
fourst He's like, you know what, that movie sounds interesting again,

325
00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,039
let me see it.

326
00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I forgot. There's one more cameo that you probably

327
00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:21,159
don't remember because it wasn't in a movie. It was

328
00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:23,519
in a video and it was a video by a

329
00:16:23,559 --> 00:16:27,000
guy we in the eighties knew as Buster Poindexter.

330
00:16:27,039 --> 00:16:27,600
Speaker 1: That's right.

331
00:16:29,799 --> 00:16:34,679
Speaker 2: Now, if you're if you're maybe ten years twenty years

332
00:16:34,679 --> 00:16:37,639
older than us, you might remember this guy as the

333
00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,559
lead singer for the New York Dolls.

334
00:16:39,919 --> 00:16:42,799
Speaker 1: David Johansson, Buster Poindexter.

335
00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:47,200
Speaker 2: Same guy, same guy. This is Loungejack. Personality is Buster Poindexter,

336
00:16:47,519 --> 00:16:51,039
and you will remember, probably most prominently, no matter what

337
00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,759
age you are, his rendition of the song Hot Hot.

338
00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:58,240
Speaker 1: Hot Hot.

339
00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:03,120
Speaker 2: By the way, he calls this the bane of his

340
00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,079
existence because it's like karaoke and all of the other

341
00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,119
it's just like, h I'm just so sorry I did

342
00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,200
the song. Now, he probably made a bajillion dollars from

343
00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,519
doing the song, But I sent you the video last night,

344
00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:17,000
and I was like, check out who shows up at

345
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,960
one minute and fifty seven seconds in Mister Bill Murray.

346
00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:22,759
Mister Bill freaking Murray shows up and there's his other

347
00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:25,759
cameo before this movie. Now, as it turns out, I'm

348
00:17:25,799 --> 00:17:29,759
just kind of learned this today, Buster Poindexter David Johansson.

349
00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,880
He has the part of Christmas Past in this movie, right, Well,

350
00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,000
that wasn't originally supposed to go to him.

351
00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,200
Speaker 1: This is mind blowing the actor.

352
00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,640
Speaker 2: That it was supposed to go to. And just just

353
00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,279
close your eyes and imagine this, if you will. It

354
00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:49,880
was supposed to go to mister Sam Kennison. Can you

355
00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,200
imagine perfect I can see it. I can definitely see it.

356
00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,000
And I think that David Johanson did a fantastic job

357
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,559
with it. I mean he's a very I think he

358
00:17:57,759 --> 00:18:00,720
played it well, very New York style, and he's a

359
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,119
guy from New York. Something makes sense. I mean, Sam

360
00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,599
Kinison's kind of a Southern boy, so it's a little

361
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,400
it would be a different, different character entirely Sam Kennison.

362
00:18:09,799 --> 00:18:13,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tulsa, Oklahoma. Yeah, by the way, and that makes

363
00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,200
more sense when you look at the broad picture. You've

364
00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,559
got a big comedian, Bill Murray. You've got Bobcat Goldthwaite,

365
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,720
you know, plugged in to carry the comedic weight, right.

366
00:18:23,759 --> 00:18:25,960
Speaker 2: Well, Sam Kennison was really upset that he didn't get

367
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,599
this part, and then when his buddy Bobcat Goldthwaite gets

368
00:18:28,599 --> 00:18:30,680
a part in the movie, he's even more for us.

369
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,160
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, I didn't hear that story. Yeah, let's back

370
00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,759
up for just a second. Yeah, Bill Murray when you

371
00:18:35,799 --> 00:18:38,480
said he was hiding out, he was in France, like

372
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,400
living in Paris. He thought about giving up acting altogether.

373
00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:42,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

374
00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,039
Speaker 1: When I think about that, I'm like, Okay, Bill Murray

375
00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,519
was hotter than hot. In fact, I read a note

376
00:18:47,519 --> 00:18:50,039
that said when they were building the idea of doing Scrooge,

377
00:18:50,079 --> 00:18:51,960
they said, there's two guys that can carry this movie.

378
00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:54,319
They paid Bill Murray six million dollars to do this.

379
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,440
The only other person at the time that was hot

380
00:18:56,559 --> 00:18:58,599
enough to handle this Eddie Murphy.

381
00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:01,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was doing his own thing with Harlem Knights.

382
00:19:01,759 --> 00:19:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we would have missed out on what about

383
00:19:04,519 --> 00:19:08,200
Bob Ghostbusters two? The Ed Wood character. That's hilarious, Just

384
00:19:08,279 --> 00:19:11,240
a lot of parts that Bill Murray. It was awesome.

385
00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,599
Inn Just just.

386
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 2: Keep in mind that six million dollar figure. For the time,

387
00:19:16,319 --> 00:19:19,960
he made more money than the director, the rest of

388
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,400
the cast and the writers combined.

389
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:23,519
Speaker 1: Wow.

390
00:19:24,079 --> 00:19:27,880
Speaker 2: So, originally slated to direct was Sidney Pollock, Okay, who

391
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:34,720
had worked with Bill Murray before, but it was in TUTSI. Oh, yeahmates,

392
00:19:35,079 --> 00:19:38,000
he's the roommate. Sidney Pollack directed that movie. But I

393
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,000
don't remember what the reason was, but Sidney Pollack had

394
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,559
to bow out and so they went with another big

395
00:19:42,599 --> 00:19:45,240
director up and coming. Really but I mean, he had

396
00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:47,200
done Superman, he had done the.

397
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 1: Omen and he was he had done Goonies.

398
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 2: He had done Goonies and Leith the Weapon and Leath

399
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,759
the Weapon, which at that point, I don't know that

400
00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:57,960
anybody really had the idea who he was with Lethal Weapon.

401
00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,640
I mean it was like, I think he got that

402
00:19:59,799 --> 00:20:02,680
jo before Lethal Weapon had exploded onto the scene like

403
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,000
it had. But he gets slated to direct and he's

404
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,519
a little unsure. He's like, I've never done a comedy before.

405
00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:11,519
I mean, obviously Lethal Weapon has its comedic moments, but

406
00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,720
not a full blown comedy like this one is. But

407
00:20:15,079 --> 00:20:17,279
I gotta say he knocked it out of the park.

408
00:20:17,559 --> 00:20:21,480
His comedy in this movie, with the timing of like

409
00:20:21,599 --> 00:20:27,079
the very unsettling zombie scenes and you know, mice coming

410
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,599
out of people's skulls and followed up by something that's

411
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:35,960
absolutely hysterical, is brilliant, Absolutely brilliant. Richard Donner can do

412
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,160
all the comedies he wants to do.

413
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,799
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I'm glad that you touched on that

414
00:20:38,839 --> 00:20:43,119
because you take a super funny improv you know, Second

415
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,279
City type performance by Bill Murray and you add some

416
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,319
really cool special effects dangling him outside the window, and

417
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,119
then the Christmas futures the skeleton with the guys running

418
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,720
around his body. You know, we watched him Quinn. Quinn's like, whoa.

419
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,559
Speaker 2: Dude, By the way, I happen to see the Japanese

420
00:21:00,599 --> 00:21:04,119
poster for this particular movie. Yeah, and it's got a

421
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,319
picture of Bill Murray down at the bottom and it's

422
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,440
like there's a laser coming out of his hand, like

423
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:14,880
he's Emperor Palopatine or something, and it's zooming up to

424
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,759
the sky where it's like the ghules that are in

425
00:21:17,839 --> 00:21:21,480
the chest of Christmas Future. Like it's not at all

426
00:21:21,559 --> 00:21:24,519
related to the movie. It's just kind of this weird take.

427
00:21:24,759 --> 00:21:27,400
And then there's another one from Australia where it's got

428
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,720
like the three ghosts up above him and he's still

429
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,480
smoking the cigar. But the tagline is basically now it's

430
00:21:34,519 --> 00:21:38,559
Bill Murray against three ghosts, which is obviously a Ghostbuster's reference.

431
00:21:38,599 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. So you brought it up, I'm

432
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,559
gonna go ahead and say this. Yeah, the poster for

433
00:21:42,599 --> 00:21:45,640
the movie Scrooged and the poster for movie Christmas Vacation

434
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,480
to the worst in the eighties. I hate them both, really, yes,

435
00:21:49,559 --> 00:21:51,880
tell me why. On Scrooge, you got Bill Murray's giant

436
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,200
face and he's making this goofy look and his hair's

437
00:21:55,279 --> 00:21:58,000
crazy and it's drawn. It's not a picture. And he's

438
00:21:58,039 --> 00:22:00,640
lighting a cigar that's being lit by a skilled it's

439
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:01,240
just bad.

440
00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:03,519
Speaker 2: It doesn't tell you anything about the movie at all.

441
00:22:03,559 --> 00:22:05,279
And it's not particularly engaging.

442
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,799
Speaker 1: No, and it's just it's just a draw. I mean,

443
00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:10,359
it's like somebody drew it, you know, and somebody an

444
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,599
art class, you know, and second semester.

445
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,079
Speaker 2: Right, well, and the one for Christmas vacation looks even

446
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,039
more construct yeah.

447
00:22:17,319 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: Now you compare that to the original of a vacation

448
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,720
poster where he's you know, it's got Christy Brinkley and

449
00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:23,680
Beverly D'Angelo and he's kind of muscled up and he

450
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,519
looks like a champion.

451
00:22:24,559 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: You know. It's a play on the conan barbarian barbarian poster, right,

452
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,680
And that one's fantastic, it's awesome, it's fantastic.

453
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: And then you have a second semester art student in

454
00:22:33,799 --> 00:22:35,359
charge of this one. It looks terrible.

455
00:22:35,519 --> 00:22:38,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, two portly done posters for two great movies.

456
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: By the way, I saw an alternate poster for Christmas

457
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,319
Vacation in Europe. I don't really get this, okay, so

458
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,000
let me paint this picture for you. So it's Christmas Vacation.

459
00:22:49,319 --> 00:22:51,759
He's being shocked by Christmas lights and he's wearing a

460
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,799
Santa's get up.

461
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 2: Okay.

462
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,319
Speaker 1: In this European poster I saw, it's called Holiday vacation,

463
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,839
no Santa get up, and he's just wearing like a

464
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,440
It's the weirdest thing. He's still getting shocked. It's just

465
00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:06,920
they changed his clothes and it's really weird. Okay. So

466
00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:08,960
back to Richard Donner for a second. Yeah, I thought

467
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,799
this was really interesting. He had some complimentary things to

468
00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:13,799
say about Bill Murray, says one of the most creative

469
00:23:13,799 --> 00:23:16,079
guys he's worked with, but he's off the rails. He's

470
00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:18,759
difficult to direct. Right. When you ask Bill Murray his

471
00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:21,160
experience in this movie, he said it was a misery

472
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,000
the entire time, and he and Donner disagreed about everything

473
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,480
all the time, constantly.

474
00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:26,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

475
00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:28,839
Speaker 1: One of the things he said, Donner kept telling him

476
00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:31,400
to do it again and do it louder, and Bill

477
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,440
Murray said, I just think he was deaf. One more

478
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,519
tidbit on Richard Donner. He used to direct Gillingdon's Island. Yes,

479
00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:41,119
there's a trivia question in the movie. What boat do

480
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,359
they take to Gillingdon's Island? And the whole time Bill

481
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:49,400
Murray's like, you know this, this is easy. Nice I

482
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,880
toldly missed that connection. Nice one. That's a good one,

483
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,319
thank you.

484
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so kind of talked about how Scrooge came into being.

485
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,440
Let's jump over to Christmas Vacation.

486
00:23:57,759 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: Burns some dust here, I'm rubber.

487
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,079
Speaker 2: So this one's another great story. We have our eighties

488
00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:10,039
beloved writer and director of all time, mister John Hughes. Now,

489
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,519
the original story was in National Lampoon magazine, and this

490
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,640
was actually the second story. First vacation story was National

491
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,759
Lampoon's Vacation that became the movie. Then the second story

492
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:23,279
in the magazine came out December nineteen eighty and that

493
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,480
was the Christmas version, written by John Hughes, who then

494
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,160
of course wrote the script for this movie as well.

495
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,799
Right now, John Hughes had found this guy that we've

496
00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:38,920
talked about before in our Grimlins episode. Yeah, and he says, hey, dude,

497
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,880
I'd like you to come direct this new Christmas movie

498
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,920
that I've written. And that guy's name was Chris Columbus,

499
00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:49,920
and the new movie was Christmas Vacation, right, and a

500
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,720
lot of you are going to be right now going

501
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,480
I didn't know Chris Columbus directed Christmas Vacation, and you

502
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,480
would be right. He did not. He did not before

503
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,160
one frame of film was shot. Chris Columbus, despite the

504
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,480
fact that this was his first opportunity to direct.

505
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: And he was dying to direct a movie.

506
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: He calls up John Hughes to say, I don't think

507
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,079
I can work with Chevy Chase. Chevy Chase had from

508
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,160
the outset made his life a living hell, thought he

509
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,400
was inexperienced, didn't want to work with him, had this

510
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,279
other guy in mind that he wanted to work with,

511
00:25:24,839 --> 00:25:27,720
and basically he could see the writing on the wall.

512
00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:30,839
This was not going to work. He calls John Hughes

513
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,119
ready to quit, and before he can even say what

514
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,039
he wants to say, John Hughes says, Hey, you know what,

515
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,440
I don't think you're gonna fit right with this movie,

516
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,640
but I've got another movie that I think you'd be

517
00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:45,400
perfect for. So it's this really beautiful, like, hey, I

518
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,480
know what you're about to say, and it's okay, right,

519
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,759
what a great thing to do for this guy. And

520
00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:51,799
then of course the movie that he gets to do

521
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,039
is Home Alone.

522
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,279
Speaker 1: No, man, it's so incredible. John Hughes knew Chevy Chase

523
00:25:57,319 --> 00:25:59,680
was tough to work for. Yeah, and Chris Columbus is not.

524
00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:02,599
I mean, he was a screenwriter. He wrote Grimlins, he

525
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,680
wrote Goonies. Yeah, I mean, this guy is an up

526
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,920
and coming major talent.

527
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,319
Speaker 2: So he had done a couple of movies before this.

528
00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:13,240
He had done Adventures in Babysitting in eighty seven, and

529
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,880
he did Heartbreak Hotel, which of course was at the

530
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,920
same time that this was going out. And you remember

531
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:23,119
he was super excited to meet Hoyt Axton on the

532
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,839
set of Grimlins because Hoyt Axton his mom had written

533
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:27,839
Heartbreak Hotel.

534
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: Right, that's right.

535
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,799
Speaker 2: So anyway, he did Adventures in Babysitting before Home Alone

536
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,440
ultimately materialized, and Heartbreak Hotel, which was kind of a

537
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,000
disappointing thing. And so this was kind of when Christmas

538
00:26:39,079 --> 00:26:41,000
Vacation was out there. It was like, this may be

539
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:44,200
your last shot, buddy. But then he gets home alone

540
00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:49,039
and with a lower budget than Christmas Vacation, it rakes.

541
00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:51,079
Speaker 1: It in, blows the doors off.

542
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, mind blowing.

543
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: How big that movie was, Oh yes, humongous. And then

544
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:57,079
ultimately he gets the Harry Potter movies.

545
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, just talk about a million things that

546
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,759
he's done. But yes, absolutely, missus doubt fire nine months,

547
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:03,440
step mom.

548
00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: So in steps this guy named Jeremiah Chechnik. Now, then

549
00:27:07,519 --> 00:27:10,480
I looked at his IMDb page. I don't know a

550
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:12,759
lot about this guy. He hadn't done very much. But

551
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:15,559
the one thing that stood out to me that he

552
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:20,319
had done one thing the music video for Van Halen's

553
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:21,240
when It's Love.

554
00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: That's It.

555
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,079
Speaker 1: To me, that was the biggest thing on his resume

556
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,599
before this, before this, yeah, right now, he did a

557
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:35,640
few movies after this, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But to

558
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,720
go from that to this.

559
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 2: He did a couple movies after this. I mean he's

560
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,759
done several things. He's still he's still right, he's still

561
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:45,319
making stuff. But our audience will be familiar with Benny

562
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:45,759
and June.

563
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

564
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that was a huge one for Johnny

565
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,440
DApp Yes, and then he did this movie called Diabolic,

566
00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:55,000
which he almost won the Worst Director of the Year

567
00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:58,079
award for but lost out to Gus van Zandt, who

568
00:27:58,079 --> 00:27:59,480
did the remake of Psycho.

569
00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:05,599
Speaker 1: I believe it's diabolique. You say so, buddy, Okay, I

570
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:07,720
didn't getch that. That's okay. So when they went to

571
00:28:07,799 --> 00:28:10,640
John Hughes, he said, you know what, guys, I'm kind

572
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,720
of done with the Griswold story and I'll do this

573
00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:17,000
third one. If we can think of some idea that's

574
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:19,319
really good, I'll sticker out if it's really good. And

575
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,640
to me, this is this kind of tells how great

576
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,079
of a writer he is, because he forgets about Christmas

577
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,279
fifty nine, like he's put out all this stuff, and

578
00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:29,559
when he's kind of going through his old stuff, he's like, oh, yeah,

579
00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:31,759
Christmas fifty nine. Yeah, that's a good idea.

580
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: Christmas fifty nine. By the way, just because we didn't

581
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:36,440
clarify it, that's the name of the story from National

582
00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,799
Lampoon that came out in nineteen eighty. Yeah, I mean,

583
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:41,440
this is we're talking about eight years later when he's

584
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,079
looking at this. From what I understand, there were pages

585
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:46,559
coming in every day and they were doing a lot

586
00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:48,720
of things on the fly. Now you talked about the

587
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,319
fact that Jeremiah Chechnik had only.

588
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: Done Ben Halenalen. Yeah.

589
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,359
Speaker 2: Before that time, he had directed some commercials as well,

590
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,519
but I mean this was his first filming job. And

591
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:00,720
do you know what the first thing that filmed was

592
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,799
what it's the first scene in the movie where the

593
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,519
station wagon goes underneath the logger truck. And I mean,

594
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,519
can you imagine a harder scene to film on your

595
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,839
very first day? He was like, I was sure somebody's

596
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,000
gonna die and this would be the end of my

597
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:18,119
career before it ever started. Yeah, but fortunately they had

598
00:29:18,319 --> 00:29:21,039
a guy on set who was a fantastic stunt driver.

599
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,480
His name was Dick Zycker. Okay, they called him z Man,

600
00:29:24,559 --> 00:29:26,599
but he was an absolute pro and he was just

601
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,559
able to go at the exact same speed slide that

602
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,960
car under there. And that first scene is so perfect,

603
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,720
because how are you going to have a driving scene

604
00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:38,319
in a Christmas vacation movie that's supposed to take place

605
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,039
at the house of the Griswolds. Sure, sure, well, because

606
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:44,200
they're driving out to get the treat, but you've got

607
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,759
to have that tie in. By the way, they asked

608
00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:48,319
Lindsay Buckingham to write a song for this one, and

609
00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:49,480
he was like, I don't want to be known as

610
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,160
the soundtrack for vacation. Guy.

611
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: Well, it's the only vacation movie that doesn't have holiday

612
00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:53,920
road in it.

613
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

614
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: By the way, you talked about it, but that scene

615
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,480
was shot in Breckenridge, Colorado.

616
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of the scene that they needed lots of

617
00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:05,039
snow for they went and shot at Breckenridge because Breckenridge

618
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:08,119
always has snow early. Well, they come to Breckinridge, they

619
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,400
show up and no snow, uh huh. So they're like,

620
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,400
oh crap, and so they have to make their own snow.

621
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: Right, They make a lot of snow, and then as

622
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,200
soon as they get it all laid out, a snowstorm

623
00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:24,079
comes in and it doesn't stop snowing the entire time

624
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:26,039
that they're there. You know, I've been to Breckridge and

625
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:28,640
I've been to Chicago. I've noticed that the Rocky Mountains

626
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,680
are not in Chicago.

627
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,799
Speaker 2: We don't know how far they drove.

628
00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: Yes for the Grid World Family Christmas.

629
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:40,519
Speaker 2: Okay, so that kind of does it for the beginnings

630
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:48,160
of these movies. Let's talk about the casting, all right.

631
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: So the cast of Scrooge is fantastic, you've got Bill

632
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,240
Murray's return. You've got Karen Allen who we fell in

633
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,559
love with as Marion Ravenwood from Raiders of the Lost Stars.

634
00:30:56,599 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: She's like a little like a little warm hug.

635
00:30:59,359 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah's it's so pleasant, like she's a very different character

636
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,039
than Mary and Ravenwood, and she's got just a warm,

637
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,000
lovely smile. So now you've got John Forsyth as Lou Hayward. Yeah,

638
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,400
John Forsyth from Dynasty. Yes, this guy is awesome in

639
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,000
this movie. You've got to play this pretty well straight.

640
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

641
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: And he's crusty and all he doesn't have any eyeballs

642
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,880
and he is dusty, dirty and pulled out of the

643
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,000
grave once again.

644
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:25,079
Speaker 2: The brilliance behind the comedy is to hire straight actors

645
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:25,920
for most of the part.

646
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: That's right.

647
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I got to say one of the guys

648
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:31,319
that I don't even think about until I watched this movie,

649
00:31:31,359 --> 00:31:33,720
but when he comes on, he's just like this burst

650
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,680
of energy and he really engages the movie and is

651
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,640
such a great character. And that's John Glover playing Bryce

652
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:40,799
Chryce Cummings. Right.

653
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like my lacrosse coach used to tell me,

654
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:46,920
there is no I in Team That guy is brilliant.

655
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: I love him.

656
00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: He's funny. And then the just the subtle looks that

657
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,960
Bill Murray gives the camera and you know, the eyes

658
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,839
you would absolutely hate to be around this guy. He

659
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,240
plays the obnoxiously friendly guy to a seat. Let's talk

660
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:04,720
about Bobcat Goldwaite for a second. Why did he have

661
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:08,119
only ye shaky stuff? Why didn't you know that?

662
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: Because that's a character. His stand up guy was a character.

663
00:32:11,559 --> 00:32:14,880
And this movie is our first opportunity to see Bobcat

664
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,400
Goldthwaite just being Bob.

665
00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:19,319
Speaker 1: I thought he was perfect. He's a little bit scared,

666
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,519
but he's you know, brave enough to kind of take

667
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:26,839
on the boss in a few scenes, you know, Yeah,

668
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,519
that scene when he's running around the shotgun going you

669
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,119
better watch.

670
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 2: Out hello wet?

671
00:32:35,079 --> 00:32:35,279
Speaker 1: Yeah?

672
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: Really, I think it's fantastic that the Ghost of Christmas

673
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,359
Future gets interrupted by bobcat Golf. Yeah that's right, right,

674
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,880
I mean he's louder Milk. Is his character's name, Ellie Loudermilk. Yeah,

675
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,039
he's supposed to be going like he's supposed to be

676
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:51,720
taking Bill Murray into this frightening, terrimfying hell experience. But

677
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,160
he's like oh, hold on, there's the shotgun here.

678
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: I'll wait when Loudermilk gets fired. That scene was hilarious

679
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,640
because he's like, uh, sir, you know, I think you're

680
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,720
a bit off base right there. And he's like, fire

681
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:06,200
that man immediately, and they're like, but sir, it's Christmas.

682
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,400
He's like, thank you, call it county and cancel his bonus, right,

683
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,160
and then he watches from the telescope they toss him

684
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,680
out on his butt. He's like, he's laughing.

685
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hate this guy right off the bat right

686
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:17,640
four and.

687
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: A half minutes. Right, Okay, So we've already talked about

688
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,599
David Johansson as the Ghost of Christmas Past, even though

689
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:25,880
he does a fantastic job. Yeah, and I'm surprised he

690
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,759
didn't do more stuff. He's got a very character he face.

691
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,440
I don't know why he didn't do more.

692
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: Honestly. Maybe he's just living off the royalties of Hot, Hot.

693
00:33:33,039 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: Hot, probably, so he's probably embarrassed to see those ridiculous

694
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:39,960
weird ears that he has to wear in this movie,

695
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,880
or the teeth or the green teeth. Yeah, alright, but

696
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,400
Carol Caine as the Ghost of Christmas Present is my

697
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,599
absolute favorite character in this entire movie. Sometimes you have

698
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:54,559
to just to get the attention. Yeah, and I'm taking

699
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:57,359
on my buddy Jeff Johnson because he kind of was like, gosh,

700
00:33:57,359 --> 00:33:59,680
he's so annoying. I'm like, yeah, but that's the whole point.

701
00:33:59,759 --> 00:34:03,519
She's supposed to be annoying his crab. Absolutely so sweet

702
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:05,119
that she makes your teethhirt.

703
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:08,119
Speaker 2: Right, right, But the violence, of course, that goes. I

704
00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:11,039
mean it's sweet mixed with violence. And that, by the way,

705
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,559
was how Richard Donner convinced her to be in the part.

706
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:16,880
He's like, this is gonna be like Glinda the Good Witch,

707
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:21,039
except she's extremely extremely violent. It's like, oh, that sounds

708
00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:23,960
like a fantastic part to play. And then Bill Murray

709
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,000
tells her, He's like, I want you to really hit me.

710
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:28,079
I want you to really like, don't hold back. Yeah,

711
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,119
give it to me. And so a lot of those

712
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:32,519
scenes she's really smacking the crap out of him. And

713
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:35,320
you'll remember there's one part where she grabs his bottom

714
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,639
lip and like pulls it down.

715
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:42,119
Speaker 1: Yes, fine, slap me in the face, but you kicked

716
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:43,039
me in the ball.

717
00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: They had to stop filming because she basically ripped the

718
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,639
little tissue that holds the teeth to the to the

719
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,119
lip off of Bill Murray.

720
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: For like four days they shut down production.

721
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,199
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean there were a couple that was

722
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,199
that was the injury scrooged. There was another on Christmas Vacation.

723
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,159
Chevy Chase is beating up all of the Santa and

724
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,320
the reindeer and all that. When he punches the Santa.

725
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,800
When you see him punch the Santa, he breaks his pinky.

726
00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: Figure, I know. And then he improves where he karate

727
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,920
chops the antlers off and stuff. He wasn't supposed to

728
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,719
do that. Yeah, he's He's like, well, my hand's hurt.

729
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,159
I guess I'll start kicking really really. Carol Caine though,

730
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,960
as the Glinda Goodwitch when she puts that glitter X

731
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,360
on his cheek and then the first time I saw this,

732
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:30,440
I could not stop laughing. Yeah, she beats the crap

733
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,559
out of him. You cloth, I'm through.

734
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: Well, and they've got the h They got the other

735
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:41,440
brothers of Bill Murray in this movie as well. I

736
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,840
don't know if there's another movie where all four brothers

737
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,639
are in the thing, so I think this is the

738
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,559
only one. But the scene where she's hitting where Carol

739
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:53,000
Caine is hitting him with the toaster, like Joel Murray said,

740
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:55,440
he thought, oh my gosh, she's gonna hit him every time.

741
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:58,400
He was like, she was just barely missing him every time.

742
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,719
But there's this scene where she's in like little ballerina toes.

743
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: She's working around.

744
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,079
Speaker 2: Yes, she practiced four months to get the ballerina top point,

745
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:10,159
like really went to ballet classes to get this down.

746
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:13,199
And she got kind of upset because when she did it.

747
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,480
Richard Donner thought it was absolutely hysterical.

748
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: Yes, so she's like, I.

749
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 2: Was trying to do the best that I could.

750
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: It's hilarious. Keep going. Yeah, she was awesome.

751
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:26,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was really good.

752
00:36:26,639 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 1: Back to John, Joel and Brian Murray real quick. So,

753
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,159
Brian Doyle Murray, you've seen him a million things, Wayne's World,

754
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,079
Caddie Shack, Vacation, We already talked about him. Of course,

755
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:38,320
Bill Murray's been and everything. John Murray was in an

756
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,920
eighties classic, Moving Violations, which I love. It's kind of

757
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,000
like a police Academy type of movie. Okay, John Murray

758
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:49,159
is the star of that movie, Moving Violation.

759
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So John Murray is the Mark Harmon to Steve

760
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,079
Gutenberg's Kevin cost.

761
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, pretty much, pretty much. I don't even know.

762
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: That's some complicated math right there.

763
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: Joel Murray was in One Crazy Summer with Bobcat Goldway. Yeah,

764
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,599
that's right there, you go. Some connections to some eighties

765
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:11,599
classics there, all right.

766
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: Who else? We've got some big hitter actors in this one.

767
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,440
You've already mentioned John Forthsyth, but we also have Robert Mitchum.

768
00:37:18,679 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: Robert freaking Mitcham.

769
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, talk about an icon. I mean, he's

770
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:25,599
There are too many movies to mention. One of my

771
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:29,039
favorites is Cape Fear, but he is an icon of

772
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,960
the early twentieth century movies. And here he comes in

773
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:36,960
as this kind of ridiculous executive who wants to do

774
00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:43,239
programming for cats. As it turns out, yeah, this is

775
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,840
actually a prediction of the future. The Roku has programming

776
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,440
that is specifically designed for your pets, ladies and gentlemen.

777
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:54,480
If you want to entertain your dog or your cat

778
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:57,039
while you're away from the house, Roku has a channel

779
00:37:57,079 --> 00:37:57,280
for that.

780
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,519
Speaker 1: Yes, Robert Mitcham. And in fact, I was going to

781
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:01,039
tell you when Quinn and I watched this, My son

782
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:02,760
and I watched this last night together. I wanted to

783
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,119
kind of gauge his reaction to it. He laughed out

784
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:07,519
loud at the end when Bill Murray's you know the

785
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:09,840
finale where he kind of takes over the Christmas Carol

786
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,400
and he starts improving and saying, you know, the Christmas Miracle,

787
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,760
when we can do this, and Robert Mitcham's character is

788
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,480
really mad and he turns around and hauls off and

789
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,079
kicks his cat. He just takes this big old kick

790
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:23,840
and yeah, yeah, you know, my son thought that part

791
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,000
was hilarious, so very good. It's very fun, Robert Mitcham. Funny. Okay,

792
00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:30,599
you talked about Aufrey Woodard, you talked about John Glover.

793
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,079
I want to bring up Mary Ellen Traynor. Mary Ellen

794
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:36,239
Traynor is the woman that you see that Bill Murray's

795
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,320
trying to kind of sweet talk into bed maybe.

796
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:43,199
Speaker 2: Right whenever the grandmother dies from Bill Murray's Commershall. She's

797
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,880
the one who's showing him the lines.

798
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: And he's like, this is great.

799
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: This is You can see her starting into massage his

800
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,679
shoulders and him kind of giving her the eye or whatever.

801
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,360
But yeah, we've talked about her a few.

802
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: Times so she has been in a lot of other

803
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,159
Richard Daughter movies. She was in Gooney she played the

804
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:58,719
mom and Goonies. Right, yep, she's the Mom and Goonies.

805
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,719
She's the psychiatrist in Leath the Weapon. Yes, she also

806
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,719
plays with the newscaster in Diehard.

807
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right.

808
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was married to Robert Zemeckis. She was in

809
00:39:07,519 --> 00:39:09,559
Romancy In the Stone, she's the sister that got hit

810
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,480
by the Boomerang rocks that they were trying to rescue

811
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,039
from Bolivia's right, that's right. The last guy I want

812
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:17,159
to talk about is this guy named Michael J. Pollard.

813
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: Perfect, That's where I was gonna go, Okay, okay, what

814
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,719
you got? No, So Michael J. Pollard is the guy

815
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,679
who you will remember from this movie. He's one of

816
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,039
the guys who thinks that Bill Murray is Richard Burton.

817
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: Okay, when they he's one of the homeless guys.

818
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,119
Speaker 2: Bill Murray shows up at the homeless shelter. He's like, say,

819
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,239
what of the line you like? It's and then I said,

820
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,199
as Bill Murray is leaving, he's like, hey, Richard, can

821
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,960
you give me two dollars so I can turn my

822
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,360
heat back on, and then a little later on we

823
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,360
see him down in like a little sewer area and

824
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,519
he's frozen to death, right, Yes, that he's just he's

825
00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:55,400
got a very cherubim face. You know, he's just got

826
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,360
this very pleasing little and his eyes are frozen open,

827
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,880
just like U, like Juliet Lewis in Christmas Vacation. And

828
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:07,400
it was interesting to me that in the old Superboy series,

829
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:10,280
he's the guy that plays mister Mitch mitzel plick.

830
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: Oh really, and he's perfect.

831
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 2: He's got the perfect hair, He's the perfect And we

832
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,760
have another podcast, ladies and gentlemen called Podcast Full of

833
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,360
Kryptonite where we talk about Superman and Lois the TV

834
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,360
series that's on the CW. You should go check that out.

835
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:28,440
But I maintain that's a character that needs to show.

836
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: Up in that series. Mister missile, mister Mitchleplack. Yeah, Okay,

837
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,400
one more guy I want to talk about real quick

838
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,119
Jack McGhee. Okay, he's the guy who says I can

839
00:40:37,159 --> 00:40:41,800
barely see them nipples improved. He improvab right yeah, and

840
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,840
Bill Murray right after him, he's like, see and these

841
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,480
guys are really trying. Yeah, that guy has been in

842
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:49,000
some other Dnner movies as well. Okay, he was in

843
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:52,000
Lethal Weapon too. He's the guy who's shooting the nail

844
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:55,360
gun that Murta uses later to nail and bull.

845
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, there you go. All right. So

846
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,199
there are a ton of cameos in this one, especially

847
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:04,320
because of the Christmas Carol, which they're calling Scrooge by

848
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,079
the way, they don't ever say the Christmas Carol or

849
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:11,360
a Christmas Carol, they say Scrooge. And so you've got

850
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,119
Buddy Hackett as Scrooge. You've got Jamie Farr as one

851
00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:16,599
of the Oh no, he's Jacob Marley in that one, right,

852
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,199
And then you've got some other cameos. You've got Robert

853
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:21,199
Goulay a Cajun Christmas.

854
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:21,519
Speaker 1: Yes.

855
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,559
Speaker 2: And you've got Lee Majors in the Night the Reindeer Died.

856
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,559
I would watch the.

857
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:31,119
Speaker 1: Lee Majors been a good Boy this year.

858
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: And you got John Houseman as the narrator, who I

859
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,719
knew from the paper Chase when I was a kid,

860
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,679
influence on my desire to become an attorney. But when

861
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,239
I saw the movie this time, and I saw Grace's mom, right,

862
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,840
Grace is the secretary. Her mom I'm like, I know

863
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,480
that lady. Okay. That actress is Mabel King, and she

864
00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,559
was in a TV series called What's Happening, which I

865
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:55,480
remembered her from that, but you will probably remember her

866
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:59,880
as the mom from The Jerk. I made a same

867
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:01,480
for you, and I wrapped it in cell A Phane,

868
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:01,960
just like you.

869
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:07,679
Speaker 1: Like, oh yeah, oh awesome, another Saturday nightye play. I'm

870
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:08,599
gonna stay this.

871
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,639
Speaker 2: A ton of fantastic cameos throughout this one, and I

872
00:42:13,639 --> 00:42:16,119
don't I'm sure we've mentioned maryly written, but Mary le

873
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:18,079
Retten as Mary lou Ratten.

874
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: Don't forget the Solid Gold Dancers.

875
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,079
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. By the way, just in a weird coincidence,

876
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:25,800
Solid Gold was canceled the same year that this movie

877
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:26,119
came out.

878
00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:28,679
Speaker 1: This is the last time we ever see the Solid

879
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:29,599
Gold Dancer, and.

880
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 2: Man, they did a heck of a performance in it.

881
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,119
I gotta say you could hardly even see them nipples.

882
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: And I was really trying. I was really try. Actually

883
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,960
the kiss that Bill Murray has with the Solid Gold

884
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,239
Dancer on there, the mistletoe, yes, improut.

885
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,679
Speaker 2: She did a good job with that one.

886
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's grabbing his nicktime. Yeah, Okay, were ready to

887
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,280
flip back to the cast of Christmas Vacation. Let's do

888
00:42:51,320 --> 00:43:01,159
it all right.

889
00:42:52,119 --> 00:43:05,679
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what an all star lineup we have

890
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,480
for such a small cast.

891
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 1: I know, right, you're gonna have to help me understand

892
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,360
the magnitude of some of these older actors. Okay, sure,

893
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,280
all right, So let's start off. I mean you have

894
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,159
to have Chevy Chase as Clark w Griswold.

895
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: I mean you can't change the family members.

896
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:23,159
Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait a minute, yes, yes you can't.

897
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: Actually, so weird that every single time, not only are

898
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,159
they different actors, but they're different ages.

899
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: Like it's very weird, and they reverse, you know, like.

900
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:36,119
Speaker 2: I think they even mentioned Rusty in this episode as

901
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:38,920
being in the Navy, as though there's a Russ and

902
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:39,599
a Rusty.

903
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,559
Speaker 1: I don't and Bethany is just confused.

904
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: It's all very weird.

905
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:45,519
Speaker 1: Okay, So you got Chevy Chase as you know, Sparky

906
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,159
Clark w was Griswold.

907
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: I cannot tell you how many times in my household,

908
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:56,039
not in any inappropriate way, I've said almost there.

909
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for it, wild animals. And then you

910
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,159
have Beverly DiAngelo as Ellen Griswold. She's back.

911
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,599
Speaker 2: I believe she was the first set of movie boobies

912
00:44:06,639 --> 00:44:07,119
I ever saw.

913
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, for a lot of people. Yeah, and you

914
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,559
mentioned she was not very old. She was twenty nine

915
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:16,039
when she did the first Vacation movie. Yeah, and she's

916
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:18,000
supposed to be the mother of like fifteen to sixteen

917
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:18,519
year olds.

918
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: Right. I can see Beverly Angelo getting busy a little bit.

919
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,079
Speaker 1: Early on Majors.

920
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Majors. Yeah, she's sexy. Yep.

921
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,119
Speaker 1: Then you have Juliette Lewis as Audrey Griswold.

922
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 2: Right now, Juliet Lewis. I didn't realize this until later.

923
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:33,599
Have you seen every which way but loose?

924
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,079
Speaker 1: Yes?

925
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: I have the guy who's in that as Clint Eastwood's

926
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:38,559
kind of sidekick guy.

927
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: Yes, her dad, I knew that, yes, yea.

928
00:44:41,599 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: So in this one, we've got John Galecki as Rusty.

929
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,079
He's little thirteen year old kid in this one, despite

930
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:49,880
the fact that he was older than the other ones. Right,

931
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,800
and this is his first movie comedy scenario. I mentioned

932
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,199
earlier that Chevy Chase was kind of pointing at him

933
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,039
and feeding him lines. There's the one part where he's like,

934
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,039
He's like, we checked every ball right, and he's like, yeah,

935
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,639
so maybe we should go. Oh, I gotta get to bed.

936
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,199
I gotta feed the hog.

937
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

938
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,639
Speaker 2: Ghost Through all that, those were all ad little lines

939
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,480
that chevy Chase had given him. And if you'll notice,

940
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,679
he pulls his sleeve back and he looks at his

941
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,719
wrist as though there's a watch there, and there's no

942
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,159
watch there, which is a classic chevy Chase bit. So

943
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,079
he totally fed him all of that wonderful which, of course,

944
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:31,119
now John Glecky goes on to be one of the

945
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,199
major cast members in The Big Bang Theory, which is

946
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,360
a huge comp it is.

947
00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:38,119
Speaker 1: Yes, I saw an interview with him and they said

948
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,800
that his friends several years later they like, so you

949
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,000
were in that movie with Juliet Lewis. He's like yeah,

950
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:44,039
and they're like, do you make.

951
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: Out with her?

952
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: I was twelve. No, I didn't make out with her.

953
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,239
She barely knew I existed, and.

954
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,599
Speaker 2: She was into older guys, god younger.

955
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: Yes. By the way, Juliet Lewis natural born Killers California huge.

956
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:00,000
I mean she's been in tons of stuff, tons of stuff.

957
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. John Gilecki also, I remember him from Roseanne. He

958
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:05,760
was the one of the boyfriends. That's Roseanne. Okay.

959
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: Diane Ladd plays Nora Griswold, that's Clark's mom.

960
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

961
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: Now she's classic Hollywood actress.

962
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: Yes, she was in Chinatown, she was in Wild at Heart.

963
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,639
She's been a ton of stuff.

964
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: So she's good friends with Shirley McLean.

965
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: Okay.

966
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:23,639
Speaker 1: So Diane Ladd had gone on and married this doctor

967
00:46:23,679 --> 00:46:26,039
and they moved to Florida, and Shirley McLean calls her

968
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:27,760
and says, what are you doing. Why are you not

969
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,239
in Hollywood. She's like, well, I'm married to this guy

970
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,639
and we're living in Florida. Plus, there's no good roles

971
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:35,199
for me in Hollywood anymore. Okay, And Shirley mcclan's like,

972
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,039
get your butt back to Hollywood right now. There's tons

973
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:39,840
of great stuff for you. You're too good an actress

974
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,119
to be hiding out in Florida.

975
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

976
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: So she said fine, So she went back to Hollywood

977
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,320
and that's when she landed this role. Wow, she's in

978
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,679
movies that are coming out right now this year. She

979
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,320
plays Clark's mom and she's only like six years older

980
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,119
than Chevy Chase.

981
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: Then we have a couple of big hitters we've got E. G. Marshall.

982
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, angry, Yeah.

983
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: He was. He is a monster.

984
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: And what was that We've talked about another movie that

985
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:06,800
he was in.

986
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 2: What what did we talk about?

987
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: He was the president in Superman one and two.

988
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: That's right, that is right. Go check out our Superman

989
00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:20,559
one and two versus Man of Steel episode. But yeah,

990
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:23,079
I had forgotten about that. Yeah, he plays the president.

991
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:27,519
And of course classic I mean, brilliant actor again, big

992
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:28,880
twenty century actor.

993
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,079
Speaker 1: By the way, Go ahead, Superman directed by Richard.

994
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: Donnerd there you go. Then we've got Doris Roberts who

995
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:40,039
plays Francis. She's hysterical. You've seen her in a million things.

996
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: She's always going to be Ray's mom from Everybody less Raymond,

997
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:47,039
right right, She is the freaking funniest in that in

998
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:49,000
that TV show. I don't think she really gets to

999
00:47:49,039 --> 00:47:51,360
shine in Christmas Vacation as much as she does. And

1000
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,280
everybody loves Raymond. Well, she has.

1001
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:59,199
Speaker 2: The fantastic part where she faints with the squirrel. Hysterical. Yes,

1002
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,360
And then we have the return of cousin Eddie himself,

1003
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:05,400
mister Randy Quaid Eddie.

1004
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: If I woke up tomorrow with my head's on to

1005
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,719
the carpet. I would not be as surprised as I

1006
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,280
am right now.

1007
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: I can still remember hearing that line for the first

1008
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,079
time and I could not stop like it was so

1009
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,920
well placed, so brilliant, loved loved it. Now here's a

1010
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,679
deep cut for you. Are you ready? Yeah?

1011
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So gene Autry has a song in this one.

1012
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:28,880
Here here comes down.

1013
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:33,639
Speaker 2: Clas Randy Quaid's grandfather is gene Autry's cousin?

1014
00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:35,639
Speaker 1: Really, okay?

1015
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,039
Speaker 2: And the only reason I know that is because I

1016
00:48:38,079 --> 00:48:40,840
watched the audio commentary and he's like, oh yeah, gene Autry, there,

1017
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,960
that's my third cousin. And he's They're like, what makes

1018
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:44,840
it a third cousin?

1019
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: He's like, is my grandfather's cousin? How about that? That's cool?

1020
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,159
Speaker 2: Right? And then, of course, also the return of Miriam Flynn,

1021
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,119
who plays cousin Eddie's wife, cousin.

1022
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: Catherine Kevin Catherine, just the chemistry between those two is

1023
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,199
so good. When he's kind of pinching our button stuff,

1024
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,960
he's like, don't forget the rubber sheets and the gerbils.

1025
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:10,159
That's a throwaway line that you can barely hear. It's

1026
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,079
brilliant and she just rolls with it just for whatever.

1027
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:15,639
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, it is, it's really hysterical. And she

1028
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,119
this is the thing that she pointed out. They're watching

1029
00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:20,800
the movie as they do the commentary, and she's like, oh,

1030
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,239
he's got.

1031
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:24,599
Speaker 1: A Tasmanian There's a Tasmanian Devil cup. And I'm like, so,

1032
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,280
Sister Clark drinking out of this cup?

1033
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 2: Right. She was the voice of Taz's mom in the

1034
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,000
Tasmanian Devil series that was on back in the whenever it.

1035
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: Was Okay, that's a Marty Moose cup, by.

1036
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: The way, not that cup when he's in the office.

1037
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,039
When he's see in the office all the guys march in,

1038
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,280
he's drinking out of a Tasmanian double cup. Okay, cool, cool, cool, Okayway,

1039
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,719
first Christmas that we had at my office party about

1040
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,159
everybody Marty the Moose cups?

1041
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,559
Speaker 1: Nice nice. I saw them on sales Target the other day.

1042
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:56,800
By the way, in this movie, you have the infamous

1043
00:49:57,199 --> 00:49:59,360
actress from the movie Troll that I just watched the

1044
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,760
other day, which was terrible. Okay, Julia Louise Dreyfus.

1045
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,159
Speaker 2: Okay, you mentioned that she was super hot back then, yes, yeah,

1046
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:09,320
and she had been in Saturday Night Live at this point,

1047
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,599
She's obviously got brilliant comedic timing still looks really good,

1048
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:16,679
and this one looks great. It's almost like they've got

1049
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:19,880
a separate movie going on for those two, and I

1050
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,480
love it. The guy who plays her husband is a

1051
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,880
guy named Nicholas Guest. Okay, you probably have heard of

1052
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,239
his brother, Christopher Guests.

1053
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I.

1054
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 2: Have waiting for Guffman. He's the six fingered man in

1055
00:50:33,159 --> 00:50:36,559
Princess Bride, I mean spinal tap. Also married to Jamie

1056
00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:39,639
Lee Curtis by the way, So good job him, Yeah

1057
00:50:39,639 --> 00:50:42,159
for him. Yeah, he's doing great there. So his brother,

1058
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,840
Nicholas Guest is the guy who plays Todd. And how

1059
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,119
many times in your life do you say, why is

1060
00:50:49,199 --> 00:50:51,039
the carpet weed Todd?

1061
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,039
Speaker 1: I don't know, Margo.

1062
00:50:53,639 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 2: It's it is a thing that we go to routinely

1063
00:50:57,679 --> 00:50:58,760
every year.

1064
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: Okay. We also have to bring up William Hickey as

1065
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:03,960
Lewis Griswold.

1066
00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:07,599
Speaker 2: Dude, an acting icon. Was a teacher for a ton

1067
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,719
of great actors, but really just kind of did it

1068
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,079
for the love of the game. I mean, he would

1069
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:15,880
give acting lessons for five dollars, but brilliant actor. He

1070
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,920
was twenty years younger than Aunt Bethany whenever he's playing

1071
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,880
this part, but nails that. It was originally that part

1072
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,960
was supposed to be George Burns, so you can see

1073
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,920
that with the stogies and the wig and all that

1074
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,400
other stuff. He totally nails that despite the fact that

1075
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,760
he was a much younger I think he was maybe

1076
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:37,039
not even quite sixty, I mean, very very young guy

1077
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:37,840
playing this part.

1078
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: But he has some of the best lines in the movie. Yeah,

1079
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,639
where he's like, you couldn't hear a dump trunk drive

1080
00:51:43,679 --> 00:51:48,719
through a nitro glycerin plant? Yes, the blessing Yes. And then,

1081
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,679
of course we have Aunt Bethany played by may Questal.

1082
00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: May Questaal, who was the original Betty Boop and also

1083
00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:02,480
the original All of Oil. Holy crap, talk about a

1084
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:03,280
resume here.

1085
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: I knew she was Betty, but I didn't know she

1086
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:05,400
was All in Oil.

1087
00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously she's passed on since then, but man,

1088
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,000
all of her scenes are iconic in this In this.

1089
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: Way, Grace died thirty years ago.

1090
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 2: Oh did I pass When?

1091
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: Did the room clear out? So funny? Okay, and one

1092
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,360
more person we got to talk about. Yeah, Nicolette Scorsese

1093
00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:30,159
not related to Martin Scorsese. Yeah, but I don't care.

1094
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:31,159
I don't either.

1095
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,519
Speaker 2: I just have to think. For the casting process for

1096
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:37,400
this movie, they had to go, can we see your

1097
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:42,920
hip exactly? And she had the perfect hip. She could

1098
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,159
barely even see the lines, can even see the lions?

1099
00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:45,920
Can you?

1100
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: Yes? Hey, you know something funny that I'm going to

1101
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:50,599
be the dummy here for a second.

1102
00:52:50,679 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1103
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: It took me a few viewings to realize that the

1104
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:58,679
girl working in the retail lingerie part of the store

1105
00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:03,760
where she's showing her underwear to Clark, she's the pool girl.

1106
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,159
It's the same girl.

1107
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:11,039
Speaker 2: Oh, Jason, Oh my gosh. There's just some things that

1108
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:14,280
you can't say out loud. This goes back to our

1109
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,400
Rio episode all over again. I'm not even going to

1110
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,159
revisit that. How did you not know that that was

1111
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,119
the same girl.

1112
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: I just thought she was another girl in a red

1113
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,679
baby same? My gosh, my guy, my guy.

1114
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,039
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say about that. We better

1115
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:28,360
move on.

1116
00:53:28,519 --> 00:53:30,599
Speaker 1: She wasn't wearing lingerie, she threw me off.

1117
00:53:31,639 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: I was looking at her face.

1118
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,039
Speaker 1: I was looking at cousin Eddie. There for a second. Yeah,

1119
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,960
if I know father, he's out there. Jason Bieber, Okay,

1120
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,440
do you have any more? Nope, that's it.

1121
00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's one more name that I got to mention.

1122
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,679
This is kind of you could easily glaze over this one,

1123
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,800
but it's it's just worth worth mentioning. Okay, Okay, maybe

1124
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,119
just because of this random movie trivia.

1125
00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: The boss's wife, right, yes, okay, played by Talagolis. Yes

1126
00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:05,840
you can kind of Heargolisgolis.

1127
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: Was that something that I missed?

1128
00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: Maybe she was related to the guy who did Caroll

1129
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,000
the bells but keep going No, okay.

1130
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,199
Speaker 2: Not even one similar letter.

1131
00:54:17,559 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 1: Okay, then al okay.

1132
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,119
Speaker 2: To tell you to Gulich.

1133
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,199
Speaker 1: Okay, So she's the wife, right and he's like, you know,

1134
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,119
I was thinking about not doing bonuses this year and

1135
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:29,639
she's like, oh you didn't.

1136
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,559
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right.

1137
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: That actress provided the voice for mon Mathma in the

1138
00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:39,239
radio adaptation of Return of the Jedi. Okay, that is

1139
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,119
a random.

1140
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: Bit of trivia. But I saw it and I was like, well,

1141
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,960
I miss what we do here at the Shirley Podcast.

1142
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:45,119
Speaker 1: Mathma.

1143
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:46,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.

1144
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: That is fantastic.

1145
00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 2: Yep.

1146
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, that is going to do it for part

1147
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,280
one of this comparison.

1148
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 2: We will be back next week for part two, where

1149
00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:01,039
we will give you the production and the of these movies,

1150
00:55:01,559 --> 00:55:04,480
and we'll give you our final judgment on which one

1151
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,599
of these movies is the best.

1152
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,599
Speaker 1: Come back next week. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

1153
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: Don't forget to subscribe or follow on your podcast app.

1154
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,239
Don't forget to come check us out on Twitter at

1155
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,280
Shirley Podcast or on Facebook at Shirley Podcast. We're on

1156
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,400
Instagram too. We don't do a lot over there, but

1157
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,880
go ahead and check us out. Man. We love the

1158
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,159
followers wherever we can get them.

1159
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: That's right. Check out our YouTube page. We've got some

1160
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,000
videos out there now. You can check those out. It's

1161
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,119
pretty cool. You can see what we look like exactly.

1162
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:30,239
We did have somebody, our friend, Amanda said that she

1163
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,320
had us switched.

1164
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Another person that we've never met before

1165
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,039
commented on our YouTube page and she's like, you guys

1166
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:39,800
look nothing like I thought you did. Okay, Oh, we

1167
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:40,639
didn't scare you off.

1168
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,199
Speaker 1: That's not what I heard. I heard. You guys looked

1169
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:44,840
freaking awesome.